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Did you look at the original 
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wrote this one? 
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How different is Inspector 
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was in the original film? 
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No wiser. 
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represents something in the US, 
in all of us, that that doesn't 

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change. 
Essentially. 

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Certain customs may change, but 
the the central man doesn't 

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change. 
Clouseau doesn't. 

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That the fallible, bumbling 
screw up, if you will. 

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His sense of humor is very much 
like mine. 

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He finds the same sort of thing 
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Funny little dogs and cats and 
birds and things and like that, 

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you know, animals in the rear, 
all kinds of things like that. 

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Funny situations. 
He spots him very quickly. 

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We both see The funny thing. 
He's also a great giggler. 

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It's really terrific. 
I'm allowed to laugh as much as 

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I like. 
I can, you know, corpse whenever

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I want to. 
And that's, you know, very lucky

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because if you're doing scenes 
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been able to. 
Corpse. 

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I mean, it would have been up. 
The whole time. 

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How much? 
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Judgement in in comedy timing 
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otherwise you question it. 
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passing. 
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disguised as French truck thinly
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Taking a tree with it as it 
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Timber. 
Here we are, welcome to Goon Pod

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folks, and who better to pipe a 
board and help me launch this 

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new series, but my very good 
friend and fellow podcaster, 

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Gary Roger. 
Hello, thank you very much for 

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the invitation and for the 
welcome. 

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I did not realise until you just
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helping to, to, to open up a 
brand new series. 

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I, I, I did not realise that was
your, your debut guest. 

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Oh. 
Yeah, it's been, it's listen, 

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it's been all of four months 
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a season podcaster. 
Gary, Can you imagine such a 

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gap? 
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When was the last sitcom club? 
No. 

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When was Hang on Queen's Golden 
Jubilee? 

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When was? 
That yeah, so. 

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You are. 
Things get in the way, don't 

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they? 
Yeah. 

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They do and all that, Yeah. 
You always say that, though. 

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Oh yeah, that excuse is wearing 
a little bit. 

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Always spent that shilling, yes,
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So you were the Co host of the 
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Proust? 
Yes, indeed. 

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And hopefully we'll be seeing 
some activity from you and your 

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your. 
I am, I am hope so We, we, we 

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did, we did attempt to, to stage
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didn't quite come off. 
But we are very, very hopeful 

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that there will be 2026 editions
of of those shows coming soon. 

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Very good, very good. 
We're recording this very late 

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at night listeners. 
There's no no reason for that 

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apart from the fact that I can 
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interrupted by a delivery. 
Oh, damn it. 

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Just excuse me a minute. 
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wouldn't you believe it? 
I'm sorry about that. 

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It was a delivery for me. 
It's my new tracksuit that I've 

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ordered and, and plim sols 
because Gary, I must admit I've 

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drawn deep inspiration from 
yourself because I'm not 

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particularly someone who's 
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going outdoors really. 
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say up until about a year ago, 
neither were you. 

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This, this is, this is so true. 
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Well, shall I, shall I, shall I 
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Because that will then it also 
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I am running the London Marathon
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And this all came about because 
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last year and I thought that 
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So a couple of friends and I, we
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My friends did not get in and I 
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And, and I, I, I'm presuming 
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rating on this podcast. 
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typed out and, and messaged my 
friends with, with one 

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particular vowel, like repeated 
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to 5K diary was. 
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I felt horrible for running for 
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I wish I hadn't done this, but 
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I've done it. 
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done couch to five KA couple of 
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soul. 
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other days it's it's an absolute
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I, I still, I still can't 
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So basically, yeah, I, I 
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I did AA10K at the end of 
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Then I've been into like the 
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So the last one that I did was 
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And the idea of going from one 
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miles in March is astonishing. 
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The biggest challenge is 
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I find that after like an hour, 
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it's going to be over with. 
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podcasts and audiobooks in the 
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And yeah, I am played my way 
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and POD back catalog. 
That's what it's called, yes. 

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Yes, yeah, and it is a very is a
very good companion. 

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If anybody is marathon training,
I highly recommend your back 

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catalog for company. 
Thank you very much. 

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Just one thing I want to back 
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So are you telling me that 
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the London Marathon, but you 
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Rejected. 
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there's, there's about grounds 
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oversubscribed. 
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you either get in or you don't. 
And I was lucky enough to get in

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at that point because I'm 
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Society. 
At that point I contacted them 

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and said I have a place and I 
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So they're, that's my 'cause 
that's what I'm fundraising for.

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have potentially have applied 
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because charities have their own
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limited spaces for that as well.
So I was, I was fortunate to, to

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get this and yeah, it's going to
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And I just hope the weather 
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stops are and and and where all 
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I presume they have the urinals.
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running alongside with a bucket,
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because I was reading about the 
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I've got a problem because that 

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You reminded me of a scene in a 
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good long while, when like the 
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latecomers van pops up and says,
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I want to finish on on them all 
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I'm not trying to, to, to, to 
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I've got a funny feeling. 
I, I know how long it's going to

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take and it's going to take a 
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it's, it's going to be a, a 
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To regret it. 

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I'm going to. 
I make bloody sure I do. 

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I'll regret it if it's the last 
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be. 
Your best John Laurie voice. 

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I am. 
I'm very impressed. 

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I'm very proud of you. 
In fact it is. 

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I think it's a great thing that 
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how can they do that? 
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hoping you might stick a wee 
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there, but just just in case you
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than click on them. 
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justgiving.com/page/gaddy Dash 
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fundraising pages there. 
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notes as well, thank. 
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gratefully received. 
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So you've been on a few times 
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talk about what a whopper isn't 
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What a whopper. 
Yes, that was, that was, that 

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was good fun. 
That was, that was the kind of 

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film that that's the kind of 
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And it's sort of flimsy, 
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You can recognise faces and so 
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I think what we're talking about
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a big budget affair. 
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And you've been on previously 
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Pink Panther film and also in 
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the round, if you like. 
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of a deep dive, as the kids say,
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I believe that that's the 
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Is as well as put a pin in that 
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and we are talking about the 
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Good. 
Evening. 

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Monsieur Gai Gadbois got your 
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How do you do? 
I'm Lady Lyt. 

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Yes, I'm here. 
I took the liberty of felling 

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out and that. 
Depends on your intentions. 

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Strictly honourable, like an 
asteroid, A man. 

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She's a beautiful chicken. 
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inquisitive. 
You know, Would you think it's 

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naughty of me if I have to buy a
drink? 

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You. 
Already have. 

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How about I buy myself whenever 
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Right. 
Weather another color and ginger

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ale please. 
Well, if there is a lady litter,

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it must be a lid lady litter. 
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Yes. 
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Yes, industrial plastics, very. 
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Well, here is the looking at the
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Peter Sellers triumphant return 
in the sense of a success on the

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on the big screen because it had
a, well, a string of failures 

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basically leading up to this I. 
Was going to that was actually 

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going to be the first thing I 
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I I feel like a bit of sort of 
counterfactual was, was the 

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word. 
Folder role. 

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Yeah, exact effectual folder 
role. 

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How do you think, Peter? 
Sellers career would have then 

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evolved if this had not 
happened. 

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Would he be really have just 
continued making films along the

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lines of, you know, soft beds, 
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that? 
Or would he have had a 

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renaissance elsewhere? 
I suspect the former rather than

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the latter. 
Sadly, I think he certainly 

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wouldn't have got to make being 
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I, I, I don't, I think he really
only got the financing for being

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there off the back of yeah, 
regaining success, becoming 

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bankable again. 
This comes out in in 1975, 

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returned to Pink Panther for the
previous five years. 

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He hasn't really had a hit film 
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The last film that made any 
money really was which There's A

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Girl in My Soup, and that was I 
think 1970. 

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And he's made, he's made films 
like Ghost and The Noonday Sun, 

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which doesn't get a proper 
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doesn't get a proper release, 
the worst film he's ever made. 

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Where does it hurt? 
Have we watched that before? 

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I. 
I certainly haven't seen that. 

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I'm also I'm intrigued as that 
is that actually the the the the

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the strap line on the poster? 
The worst film that Peter 

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Sellers has ever made in the 
West End now. 

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It's just like he can't put a 
foot, right? 

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Edwards needed a hit and, and 
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workshopping an outline for 
another Pink Panther film. 

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But nobody wanted to bankroll it
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and Sellers were kind of washed 
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unfair. 
But it looks like sort of Lou 

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Grade came to the rescue here. 
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Would you agree? 
Yes, that this, so this, it's 

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because the, OK, there's various
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speaking, they all sort of go 
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A couple of things I'm sort of 
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like to plunder the newspaper 
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And so I was going through a lot
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at the weekend ahead of this. 
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across, which I was not at all 
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junior will be making his 
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with an appearance in Return of 
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And this does surrounds in a few
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prevent him from joining the the
the project. 

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role he was going to play in 
this. 

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But other clippings which 
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preparing for the film. 
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Press 1974 in June mentions news
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of Charles Dickens, Great 
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The stars will be Michael York 
and Sarah Miles. 

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This is just one of six films a 
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planning in a new £6,000,000 
production program. 

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He's also to make the return of 
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Sellers shooting in France, 
Morocco and Switzerland. 

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Other stars he has in mind are 
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Now, the way that this is 
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sure if that's actually saying 
he has Sophia Lauren and Peter 

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O'Toole in mind for Return of 
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going to be working with them on
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But yeah, at this point I think 
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grades more with television, ATV
and the theatre. 

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But this is this is part of a 
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fair bit of expenditure attached
to them. 

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Well, I would have thought that 
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probably played Sir Charles 
Lytton. 

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I would imagine I could. 
I could see Peter O'Toole 

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playing the character as well. 
Yes, we. 

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We we talked about this when we 
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and prepped for this. 
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somebody. 
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David Nevin himself reprising 
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lot of physicality in plumber's 
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Marrakech, for example, trying 
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and, you know, breaking Graham 
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of stuff. 
And there's a lot, there's a lot

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going on there where you sort of
think I can't, I can't quite see

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somebody of Nivin's age playing 
this role. 

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And I think it would probably 
look a bit too obvious if you 

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had like sort of standards 
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the what what were the benefits 
of HD streaming these days? 

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It's a little bit more obvious 
to spot when it isn't. 

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Peter Sellers is flying through 
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Yeah, that's Joe Dunn. 
That's his stunt double, 

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clearly. 
So David Niven, from what I can 

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find out, he was unavailable. 
He was filming Paper Tiger in 

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Malaysia right at the same time.
But part of me thinks, would he 

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have wanted to reprise the role 
because the original film had 

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been stolen from him? 
Yeah, by Sellers, was it? 

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You know, possibly. 
There was a bit of sour grapes 

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on his part, do you think? 
But having said that, he 

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returned for the bloody grave 
robber. 

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Yes, exactly. 
Yeah, No, this this moves on to 

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another issue that we also 
spotted with, yes, the the 

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continuity and what we're 
taking, we're taking like the 

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whole continuity, all the films.
Yep. 

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In, in, in context. 
So original film. 

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And I don't think that I don't 
think this is in any way a 

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concern in, in Shot in the Dark 
or Inspector Clouseau with Alan 

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Arkin. 
But in the original film, you've

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become David Nevine, Sir Charles
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Jacques Clouseau, and he is 
married to Simone Clouseau 

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Cappucine. 
And of course we know spoilers 

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that Sir Charles and Simone are 
in cahoots and then we see them 

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together later on in the Trail 
of the Pink Panther. 

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So that implies that they're 
still together 20 odd years 

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later. 
And yet in The Return of the 

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Pink Panther, we have 
Christopher Plummer as Charles 

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Lytton and he is married to Lady
Claudine Lytton, Catherine 

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Shell. 
So are we to presume that Lytton

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and Simone didn't stay together?
And got divorced, then he 

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remarried and he remarried. 
He he married Claudine. 

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And then after that he then 
divorced Claudine and then got 

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married again to Simone again. 
Well. 

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Richard Burton and Liz Taylor. 
Yes, yes, they did. 

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Yeah, there is. 
There is precedent for that sort

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of, yeah, carry on. 
Yeah, what died, wasn't it? 

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Police today were conducting a 
house to house search of Lucas 

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for the thief who Monday night 
stole the fabled pink pamphlet 

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diamond from the Royal Museum 
here. 

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According to authorities, the 
only clue is a white monogrammed

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man's glove with the initial P. 
Well, what do you think? 

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That you didn't spend your time 
just painting during my absence.

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Oh, do you think I had something
to do with the robbery? 

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Didn't. 
You, but you little beast. 

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Three, no. 
Four years ago, I swore to you 

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that I was retiring. 
Faithful to you ever since. 

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In your fashion. 
Now what the hell does that 

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mean? 
That you're being teased? 

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I believe you, darling. 
But you must admit it does sound

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like the kind of job only the 
Phantom could have done. 

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I mean the Pink Panther. 
No clues except your well known 

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calling card. 
Yes, Sir, must admit the 

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imposter. 
Very clever. 

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Very clever indeed. 
I'm surprised that half the 

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police force of France hasn't 
descended on us by now. 

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In terms of this film, I think 
it's the second best in the in 

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the series. 
So for me, I don't know about 

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you, Gary. 
For me, it runs. 

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Shot in the Dark is the best 
Cluso film, followed by this. 

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Yeah. 
I think I actually my, my, my 

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own preference is that this is 
my favorite, OK. 

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Then the Pink Panther then 
strikes again, then revenge, and

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then well to reveal over the 
others I. 

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Have I have a soft spot for 
revenge? 

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I know that it doesn't get 
really highly thought off, but 

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I'd like the fact that it's it's
not as absurd as strikes again. 

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Straight again is fabulous. 
I used to have straights again 

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on Betamax a number of times I 
played that tape. 

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But yeah, it it it sort of gets 
a little it gets battled 

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slightly bit more to normality 
with the plot of it. 

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And I like the fact that it's a 
lot more back quake in revenge 

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compared to the to the old films
as well now. 

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I saw this film on television on
a Saturday night. 

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Remember, it was a big Saturday 
night film. 

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God, it must have been about. 
I think I just got into the 

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goon. 
So it would have been about 14. 

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So it would have been about 8889
maybe. 

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And it was pan and scan. 
Oh, yes, yes. 

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And you know what? 
I had a, I had probably a rental

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tape copy of Return and that 
scene where for the first time 

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he's actually, you don't know 
who's behind the gun at that 

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point, but the first time he is 
evading. 

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Oh, gazum tight scene you mean? 
Yes. 

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Yes, yes, exactly. 
Because there's a very, there's 

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a wide different distance 
between himself, the police 

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chief and on that panel and 
scan. 

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It's like, yeah, it's, this is 
infuriating because I, this is 

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something that I read I think 
maybe 20 odd years ago and I've 

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looked for it since. 
I have never found it. 

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But I found an account of a film
which one of the ITV regions was

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showing. 
And I think this may have been 

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perhaps late 1970s and they had 
acquired a film and received 

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the, the, the, the, the print 
quite late in the day and had 

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ultimately attempted to do live 
pan and scan for its 

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transmission. 
And it wasn't a wild success. 

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And it got a few complaints 
from, from viewers. 

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And they sort of had to 
acknowledge, I think Leslie 

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Halliwell, I think it was the 
film buyer for ITV at the time, 

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had to acknowledge the the 
unique circumstances of it. 

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And it wasn't something that 
they plan to do on a regular 

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basis. 
But yeah, no, that, that's 

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that's something that's been 
utterly lost to the sands of 

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time. 
Now for For the Don for free 

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viewing modern age. 
Absolutely. 

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So I saw this film as a teenager
and I absolutely adored it from 

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the off. 
I remember howling, I told you 

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tonight, loved the bits with his
absurd little, what do you call 

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it, Van Thing repeatedly goes 
into the swimming pool. 

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I just loved it unconditionally.
I still really, really enjoy it 

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now, but there's a few bits that
drag for me these days. 

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But what was your first exposure
to this? 

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So first time I ever seen this. 
Probably going to be would have 

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been one of the 1980s screenings
on ITVI did look this up earlier

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on to find out. 
I believe it's first screening 

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was on Sunday, September 14th, 
1980, but it also, unusually, it

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had a screening within a year, 
within about nine months or so, 

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because it also played the night
before Charles and Diana's 

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wedding in July 81. 
I've always thought there was 

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something sort of sort of 
bittersweet about that. 

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I've thought it's actually, it's
quite a nice touch that you sort

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of know that he would have been 
there, he would have been at 

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Saint Paul's the day after, had 
he lived. 

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That's interesting. 
Yeah, I've. 

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Always. 
I've always, yeah, I've always 

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seen the scheduling of that in 
that context. 

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I've always just bought it just.
Yeah, it just works perfectly 

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well. 
Do you know do? 

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You know the story about Prince 
Charles in this film? 

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No. 
Do you know about this? 

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So Prince Charles was on a 
official visit to Canada in 

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1975, and he went to see this 
movie in Montreal, OK. 

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And he wrote a he actually wrote
a letter to Sellers and told him

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he'd be to see the film. 
And he said he'd laughed so much

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he wet the dress of the woman in
front of him. 

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Yeah. 
Was he not have a particularly 

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good aim? 
Was he? 

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Was he in the stalls? 
I think the implication was he 

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cried with laughter, right? 
But. 

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There you go. 
But I did a bit of digging 

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because I was intrigued by this.
So he'd been to see it in early 

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June 75 at the York Theatre and 
he was accompanied by a young 

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lady called Janet Jenkins, who 
was a receptionist at the 

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British Consulate General. 
And they arrived at the 7:00 PM 

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showing and the cinema manager 
hadn't been forewarned they were

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coming. 
And he later said that they were

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laughing a lot. 
So I guess they had a good time.

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Marvellous time was was had by 
all. 

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Now, Janet Jenkins, Gary, this 
will interest you. 

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She's related to Roy Jenkins. 
Oh, really? 

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And in later years, she claimed 
that she maintained an affair 

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with Charles for over 20 years, 
including during the sort of 

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Camilla years. 
So there you go. 

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Yeah, but but she and Charles 
apparently bonded over Return of

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the Pink Panther in. 
Montreal. 

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That's amazing. 
But I've still got this this 

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listing in front of me. 
By the way, how is this for an 

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evening entertainment? 
OK, go on, turn on the Pink 

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Panther 715 the Professionals at
9:15 and then the celebrated one

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off piece of Cook and Company 
with Better Read and Paula 

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00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,360
Wilcox clays and so on. 
Yeah, that that's a bloody good 

450
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:24,440
evening entertainment right 
there. 

451
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,440
And. 
What? 

452
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,360
Sorry was this 1980? 
Did you see this is? 

453
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:29,920
September 1980, but. 
You would have been, what, 

454
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,200
three? 
Yeah. 

455
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:31,840
Wouldn't you? 
I said. 

456
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,480
It would have been. 
It wouldn't be that screening or

457
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:34,920
even the 81 one. 
I would remember. 

458
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,600
I'm going to have seen it 
probably about 8384, something 

459
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,280
like that idiot I was. 
Like to know he was the bank 

460
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,160
manager? 
How are you to know the bank was

461
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,720
being robbed? 
That is correct. 

462
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,840
What is correct? 
I did not know the bank was 

463
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,760
being robbed because I was 
engaged in my swan duty as a 

464
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,320
police officer. 
You didn't even arrest the old 

465
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,680
beggar. 
There was some question as to 

466
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,120
whether the beggar or his minkey
was bracking Delir Minky. 

467
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,960
But you said minkey. 
That is correct. 

468
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,720
Yes. 
Chimpanzee minkey. 

469
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,400
So I left them both off with a 
warning. 

470
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,440
The. 
Beggar was the lookout man for 

471
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:18,440
the gang that is impossible why 
he was blind how can a blind man

472
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,080
be a lookout how can an. 
Idiot. 

473
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,920
Be a policeman. 
Answer me that it's. 

474
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,680
Very simple. 
All he has to do is enlist. 

475
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,240
Shut up. 
One of the, I had a lot of 

476
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,280
clippings in front of me. 
One of them that particularly 

477
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:34,120
caught my eye because of two 
things that really stand out in 

478
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,560
it. 
There is an interview with Peter

479
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,680
Sellers for the Sunday Mirror in
August of 74. 

480
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,240
And we'll come on to the other 
item later on because we can 

481
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,640
have, we can have fun with this.
But yeah, this this article 

482
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,520
mentions the four sellers is 
going to work on his next 

483
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,200
proposed picture. 
He is to make six or eight one 

484
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,640
hour television adventures 
featuring sellers 

485
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,520
characterization of the French 
Detective Inspector Clouseau. 

486
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,680
And he's also winding up the 
baton of the Pink Panther 

487
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,040
filming. 
So I'm really intrigued about 

488
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,920
this now because obviously we 
know this is not something that 

489
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:22,920
happened, but at the same time, 
but we were discussing this the 

490
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,920
other day and we were talking 
about, you know, it's because 

491
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,720
Sellers also mentions as well 
and in a lot of interviews that 

492
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,720
that Blake Edwards had been 
ringing them up for years, 

493
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,120
suggesting bits and pieces for 
clues, what to do and so on. 

494
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,520
And it may be that that the 
television series was talked 

495
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,000
about and then became the film 
or whatever it may be. 

496
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,800
But the fact that this article 
is actually referencing both of 

497
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,560
them at the same time, I think 
it's quite interesting. 

498
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:52,240
And it's now got me thinking 
about how this series could have

499
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,920
worked. 
Because we did chat briefly with

500
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,040
Tilt from said sitcom club the 
other day. 

501
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,000
He was envisaging this as being 
a sort of an old film series 

502
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:06,720
because of course at that time 
ATVITC were making these 

503
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:13,200
transatlantic series that they 
had hits with like Tom Jones and

504
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,240
Des O'Connor and so on. 
And they had of course their, 

505
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,240
their their dramas such as, you 
know, persuaders during the 

506
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,920
Serie. 
So, yeah, Lou Grade liked his 

507
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,880
glossy locations. 
He liked big guest stars, 

508
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:35,400
spending a good deal of coin on 
colour shows and, and, and, and 

509
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,280
making them really look the part
and they can look sort of 

510
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,120
cinematic. 
So this this got me thinking 

511
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,160
then, OK, how would this be 
done? 

512
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,000
Would it be, first of all, would
it be a film series or would 

513
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,160
this be videotape? 
I'll hold on to the videotape 

514
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,160
idea because I've got I've got 
somewhere that might end up 

515
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,960
going. 
But if it was, say, film series,

516
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,760
I'm thinking, OK, it's going to 
be then a little self-contained 

517
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,440
story each week and. 
I'm. 

518
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,120
Now sort of thinking about some 
of the people who might have 

519
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,480
been in it, who could feasibly 
have been in it in the mid 70s 

520
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,760
and using that sort of great 
doctrine of the going to be 

521
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,640
stars who are known on both 
sides of the Atlantic. 

522
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,280
So what is this? 
Plenty of people you could think

523
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,520
of the the, you know, the sort 
of pretty shatters and so on who

524
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:22,680
who would work well with 
sellers. 

525
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,520
I'm thinking it's got to be 
somebody with a bit of sort of 

526
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,840
box office so. 
So, OK, so sellers is obviously 

527
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,680
cluso in this. 
Yep. 

528
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,040
Are we recasting like everyone 
including Dreyfus and so? 

529
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,200
I, I was, I was sort of 
imagining that in order to give 

530
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,440
Clueso a bit of sort of elbow 
room in terms of where he's 

531
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,960
going, what he's doing and so 
on. 

532
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,080
I was thinking it was going to 
be an inspected Clueso series 

533
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,800
rather than a Pink Panther 
series. 

534
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:54,800
And I didn't necessarily 
envisage maybe Cato or Dreyfus 

535
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,920
being in more than maybe one or 
two episodes, maybe like in the 

536
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,800
first and last one or something 
of that ilk. 

537
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,680
But otherwise, he's, he's, you 
know, close, is going to have a 

538
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,760
bit of free reign to go when he 
plays he's and so on and so on. 

539
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,280
Yeah. 
So I'm not thinking of recasting

540
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,360
either of those two roles. 
But bizarrely, the first name 

541
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,200
that actually came to mind. 
And I just thought, yes, yes, 

542
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,920
he'd be absolutely perfect in 
it. 

543
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,200
Donald Pleasence Well. 
Yes. 

544
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,720
I don't know. 
I have not, I'm not like, I'm 

545
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,920
not sitting here scoping like, 
you know, scoping out like plots

546
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,320
or anything like that. 
But I'm, I'm sort of imagining 

547
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:34,000
him as being some sort of 
perhaps he's like the was and 

548
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,920
Mrs. Columbo, was he an art 
dealer? 

549
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:38,440
Is that his role? 
He was in the first episode? 

550
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,640
No, he. 
Wasn't No, he wasn't. 

551
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,280
He wasn't an art dealer at all. 
He was. 

552
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,720
He's a crime writer, wasn't he? 
He's, I don't remember, I've 

553
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,600
only seen it the once, Yeah. 
Yes, he was, he was talking, I 

554
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,520
think he was giving a 
demonstration on self defence 

555
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,040
and I think he was a was he a 
crime writer? 

556
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:56,840
But I'm sort of I'm imagining 
him as as some some sort of 

557
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,000
hooky art dealer and he's up to 
no good. 

558
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,840
He's maybe planning some sort of
heist or something like that. 

559
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,720
He's got some sort of, you know,
little sort of switcheroo 

560
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,760
planned and you know, maybe he's
got, you know, Johnny Vivian on 

561
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,920
the inside. 
He's a security guard inside the

562
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,600
like the something like that. 
Well, he's. 

563
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,600
Johnny Vivian is famous on both 
sides of the Atlantic, isn't he?

564
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,639
Yeah, absolutely. 
It's funny you. 

565
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:22,800
Say it's funny you say antique 
dealer because I was thinking 

566
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:28,320
someone who's known on both 
sides of the Atlantic, but who's

567
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,560
up and coming, who could play 
like a villain in an episode. 

568
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,040
I'm thinking Ian McShane. 
Oh. 

569
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,679
Yes, yes, indeed. 
Yeah, because he. 

570
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:41,880
Could do the menacing, he could 
do the light stuff as well. 

571
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,280
Yeah, OK. 
I think that's safe. 

572
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,679
I think we've got, we've got 
there's episode 1-2 sorted, I 

573
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,199
think. 
I think is, is it a fair, I'm 

574
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:52,560
presuming this is going to be 
Blake Edwards that that's going 

575
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,239
to be directing, that's going to
be involved in it, Probably a 

576
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,520
fair assumption that Julie 
Andrews might be involved in 

577
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,240
some way or not. 
And yes, and of course, because 

578
00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:04,520
Sellers is involved, Graham 
Stark and David Lodge, Oh. 

579
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,880
Exactly, of course, yes. 
So I was thinking also Raquel 

580
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,400
Welch. 
Oh yes, Yep. 

581
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,840
I'm. 
Always thinking Raquel. 

582
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:21,080
And then I'm then I'm starting 
to get maybe a bit sort of, I 

583
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,640
don't know, Trey or whatever, 
but I'm sort of thinking John 

584
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,960
Cleese perhaps. 
Yeah. 

585
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:31,800
And now I'm trying to think, 
what was it? 

586
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,120
We was it, was it The Avengers? 
We saw John Cleese in it. 

587
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,480
Was yes, yes. 
And one of them later episode A.

588
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,920
Colour episode, yes. 
Yeah. 

589
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,960
And so, yeah, now this is just 
no, my head's gone bonkers with 

590
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,280
all these ideas about who could 
have like potentially have 

591
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,000
turned up I. 
Think Sellers would have 

592
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,920
resisted And well, Sellers did 
resist the whole notion of a 

593
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,480
television series. 
I think Sellers didn't want to 

594
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,120
do TV. 
Yeah, really. 

595
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,600
Or certainly not be committed 
to. 

596
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,880
ATV series. 
I was also thinking, by the way,

597
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,440
could we go potentially meta on 
this? 

598
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,880
Could we have, say, Peter 
Ustinov? 

599
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,240
Can we have Alan Arkin? 
Peter Yushchnoff with a with a 

600
00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:16,440
knowing wink at the. 
Camera, Yes, yes, yeah. 

601
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,720
And Alan Arkin. 
Yeah, I, I'm because I think 

602
00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:24,640
Pete Sellers actually does say 
in some of the publicity for 

603
00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:28,840
return, he said, yeah, they did 
it on Alan Arkin didn't work. 

604
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,120
And yeah, he he sort of started 
saying like, yeah, this is, this

605
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,280
is, I don't think he's, you 
know, saying in these precise 

606
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,400
words, but he's sort of saying, 
I know how to play this role. 

607
00:36:40,720 --> 00:36:42,320
It it doesn't want people in the
role. 

608
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,000
Just just. 
To quickly talk about a scene in

609
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,120
the film with the, the actual 
introduction of Clueso in this 

610
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,480
film, I think it's masterful 
what Sellers does or Blake 

611
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,960
Edwards and Sellers do in the 
sense that. 

612
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,200
And we talked about how great 
the, the heist sequence was 

613
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,720
right at the beginning, 
particularly because basically 

614
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:08,240
you've got no laughs, no comedy 
until 15 minutes into the actual

615
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:10,720
film. 
Yeah, the, the credits are in, 

616
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,040
in, in between the, the 
beginning, sort of the the pre 

617
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,040
credit sequence. 
Then you've got the credits, 

618
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,360
which are brilliant, the the 
cartoon credits, which, which 

619
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,960
kind of license things. 
And then you've got this really 

620
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,280
well shot heist scene, robbery 
scene, and it's really dramatic 

621
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:31,000
and thrilling. 
But then it cuts to Sellers as 

622
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,680
Clouseau, who's back on the 
beat. 

623
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:42,120
He's a beat cop basically and 
within the 1st 2 seconds 3 

624
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,440
seconds he's hit himself in the 
eye with his function. 

625
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,600
Yes, yeah, in a. 
In a, and in a way that only 

626
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,000
Sellers could have done it. 
And it's and it just basically 

627
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,920
says, if you've never seen a 
Cluso film or Pink Panther film,

628
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,600
this is all you need to know. 
This is this is the character, 

629
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,400
Yeah. 
And it did. 

630
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,120
The whole section with John 
Bluthall is is is superb. 

631
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,160
What do you think about that? 
I was thinking about this as 

632
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,640
well. 
So the last film as Clouseau 

633
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:17,200
that Sellers made was Shot in 
the Dark, which was, what, 10-11

634
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,600
years earlier? 
Yeah. 

635
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:24,440
He's admonishing Bluthall, who's
busking with a monkey, a minky. 

636
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,280
And he's he's he's demanding to 
know whether he has he has a 

637
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,240
license or a permit and all that
sort of thing. 

638
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:36,360
Think about shot the dark 
Clouseau's increasingly 

639
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,720
inventive disguises to keep an 
eye on Maria Gambrelli. 

640
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,400
He keeps being arrested for not 
having a permit or a license. 

641
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,480
And I'm wondering if that's like
a little knowing nod to that. 

642
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,520
Probably not, but I'd like to 
think so. 

643
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:56,120
You have. 
A Lessons City Ordinance 47-B 

644
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,520
prohibits the playing of any 
musical instrument in a public 

645
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,960
place for the purpose of 
commercial enterprise without a 

646
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,120
license. 
I don't understand. 

647
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,560
It is against the law for you to
play your musical instrument. 

648
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:12,680
The law? 
What you say is against the law.

649
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,120
Yes, unless you have a proper 
license. 

650
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,520
What kind of license? 
A license that permits the 

651
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,320
playing of any musical 
instrument in a public place for

652
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,280
the purpose of commercial 
enterprise. 

653
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,320
Commercial enterprise, Yes. 
You play that thing and people 

654
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,400
give you the money. 
People give the monkey the 

655
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:33,880
money. 
It is a Sam. 

656
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,000
Oh, and not at all, Monsieur. 
I am a. 

657
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,680
Musician and the monkey is a 
businessman. 

658
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,320
He doesn't tell me what to play 
and I don't tell him what to do 

659
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,680
with his money. 
Just returning to the the TV 

660
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,680
series for a moment because this
is my other little piece of 

661
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,520
nonsense that that sort of 
entered in my head. 

662
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,760
I was thinking, OK, instead of 
it being a film series, what if 

663
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,520
it is videotape and it's made at
Elstree? 

664
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:05,760
So it's a lower budget, but it 
still has the same sort of 

665
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:10,040
transatlantic appeal. 
And then I started thinking, 

666
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:15,560
hang on a minute, 1975, this 
probably would have been, yeah, 

667
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,040
this could fit very nicely into 
the ATV universe. 

668
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,320
Let's say that they do this, 
it's on videotape, you've got 

669
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,320
your guest stars and so on. 
But it's also a bit more sort of

670
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,400
early evening family sort of 
centric. 

671
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:38,680
Maybe maybe the, the ping pan 
fur is more to the fore and 

672
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,600
maybe they're even sort of, you 
know, elements of the storyline 

673
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,480
which, which involve the cartoon
Pink Panther. 

674
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,640
So I've thrown in there for for 
for giggles and so on. 

675
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,920
Because of course, by this point
they do mention that the cartoon

676
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,560
series has been going for many 
years and this is running on 

677
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,720
television all over the world. 
And this thing got me thinking, 

678
00:40:57,720 --> 00:41:00,720
OK, Sellers, if he did this at 
all, he'd probably only want to 

679
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,600
do 1 Series. 
I can't see him doing more than 

680
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:08,000
one, but they've got like this 
this this space, they've got 

681
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,440
this time boot and they've got 
this sort of candle of an idea 

682
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:16,960
of can you do something which is
sort of extraordinary that that 

683
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,480
could that could appeal to UK 
and American audiences. 

684
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,280
And we've got a different guest 
star every. 

685
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,680
Can you see where this is going?
We've got a different guest star

686
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,840
every week. 
Are we talking Muppets? 

687
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,880
Yeah. 
I don't think it could this 

688
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,760
appeal like a prototype in its 
own bizarre way. 

689
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,640
And it's like could if he had 
like, sort of some sort of 

690
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:42,000
absurd haunted house episode and
it was full of creations from 

691
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,520
Jim Henson, for example. 
And this sense sort of becomes 

692
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,560
like, oh, yeah, that's right. 
That it never. 

693
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,200
Yeah. 
It never. 

694
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,480
You never see in syndication. 
You never, never see repeated. 

695
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,000
But this is what it started. 
And then before you know it, the

696
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,800
next year, Kuzo's not there 
anymore, but it's them's there. 

697
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,880
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

698
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,240
And of course, though, you'd 
have to then erase the Sellers 

699
00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:06,760
episode of The Muppet Show 
because that would not work 

700
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,400
properly, would it? 
Well. 

701
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,920
Would it as long as as long as 
they weren't making reference to

702
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,120
the previous, well, they they 
could do it. 

703
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,160
You know, like in when Berquoke 
is in the the opening scene of 

704
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,000
Fu Manchu. 
Yes. 

705
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,120
And Sellers says you look 
familiar. 

706
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,440
Yes, just something. 
Something like that. 

707
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,280
Just some little sort of a 
little side. 

708
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,120
And by the way, on on Speaking 
of that, for whatever reason in 

709
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:40,840
my head, that opening scene with
Bert Kraig in the fetish pot of 

710
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,600
Fu Manchu, quite often I 
actually get him mixed up for 

711
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:49,400
Derek Deadman in the Apple, 
which we just bought the trailer

712
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,680
for the other day. 
And apparently we have actually 

713
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,520
seen the whole entire film, 
although I remember nothing of 

714
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,880
it apart from Derek Deadman. 
Wow, We've we've got to Derek 

715
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,200
Deppen early. 
Yeah, earlier than we expected. 

716
00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:02,840
We got there. 
We got there eventually, yes, 

717
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:07,160
Yeah, yeah. 
I always think that that scene 

718
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,360
with Bert Qualke at the 
beginning of Fu Manchu, he 

719
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,960
should have, you know, because 
there's there's the whole elixir

720
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,920
of life. 
Yes thing. 

721
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,000
Yeah, That Fu Manchu should have
gone to his fridge in his 

722
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,760
kitchen to get the Elixir of 
Life, and Bert Qualke should 

723
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:22,880
have jumped out and attacked 
him. 

724
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,880
It's a nice little call back. 
So some of the cast in here that

725
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,080
we haven't really talked about, 
we, we cheered, didn't we, when 

726
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,920
we saw Lodge and Stark's names 
flash up in the Oh yes. 

727
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:40,680
In the credit. 
Sequence Dave Lodge, He's got a 

728
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,920
bit of a thankless role in this,
I suppose, but he had a nice 

729
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,280
payday, I suppose for it. 
But he he plays the driver, the 

730
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:53,320
chauffeur of Lord Lytton. 
Doing this kind of nondescript 

731
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,160
Northern accent would. 
You would you you mention 

732
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,280
yourself is this accent sort of 
wanders a bit? 

733
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,320
It does wander the course of it,
yeah. 

734
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,320
Yeah. 
Starks got a little bit more to 

735
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:08,440
do and, and he's kind of until 
mentioned when we're watching 

736
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,480
it, he I didn't realise that 
he's basically playing a Peter 

737
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,120
Lorre character and he's 
1,000,000 miles away from 

738
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,080
Hercule from Shot the Dark, 
which yeah, was the was the last

739
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,040
Cluso film that he wasn't in 
Inspector Cluso, was he? 

740
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,200
No, I don't think he was, but I 
was going to say actually that 

741
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:30,200
that how many other Pink Panther
films is Dave Lodge in? 

742
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,920
Because I don't he's not in as 
many as Graham *. 

743
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:40,440
He's in Shot in the Dark as 
George, who gets stabbed in the 

744
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,800
in the greenhouse. 
Right. 

745
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:48,400
I think is he in strikes again 
in revenge? 

746
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,240
I can't I. 
Can't play, I can't play. 

747
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,880
I'm sure he's not in revenge. 
I don't. 

748
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:59,560
I can't place him in In Strikes 
Again because Stark is the the 

749
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,720
the one of the hotel in Strikes 
Again where he's got the guest 

750
00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:05,080
of disguise and the dentist 
with. 

751
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,760
The with the famous marijuana 
pipe and. 

752
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:16,200
Of course, then he is August 
Balls in revenge with Diane 

753
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,640
Cannon. 
And August balls of nice gets 

754
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:24,680
referenced in this film just 
like a throwaway name. 

755
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:31,720
Now we before we recorded this, 
I messaged Julia and said, are 

756
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:34,040
we going to are we going to 
refer to the fact that Graham 

757
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,840
Stark famously had a, a flat up 
Peter Sellers ass and or would 

758
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,720
that be unseemly And you said 
no. 

759
00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:45,200
I, I think I said no, you, you 
must, you must made reference to

760
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,240
this. 
And of course, it was John the 

761
00:45:47,240 --> 00:45:51,920
measure who I think was the the 
the offer of that phrase. 

762
00:45:53,240 --> 00:45:55,200
But I think, I think to be fair 
to him and he gets a lot of 

763
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,520
stick and rightly so, because 
then, you know, let's not, let's

764
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,520
not talk about the private life.
Unpleasantness, but. 

765
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:05,080
But he, he's pretty good 
generally, isn't he? 

766
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:06,960
He's pretty dependable. 
Graham Star I. 

767
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,960
I when I was when I was, I was 
not a kid, I actually really 

768
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,120
liked Graham Stark when he 
whenever we would turn up and 

769
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,080
things I remember in particular 
he had a role in. 

770
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:23,200
I may or may not have seen this 
yourself, a Granada popular 

771
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,720
music show for children's ITV 
called Hold Tight, which one 

772
00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:33,560
series of which had this absurd 
subplot with John Gorman sort of

773
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,160
playing like this sort of 
Squire. 

774
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,760
I was wandering around his 
estate and and game star. 

775
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:40,760
I've interviewed. 
Hey, Butler. 

776
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,680
Oh, yes, of course you did, 
didn't you? 

777
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:45,880
Yes. 
And yeah, I went over, I saw him

778
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,240
like turning up on bits and 
pieces. 

779
00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:51,600
And then I remember seeing him 
turning up on Wogan, I think in 

780
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,960
the late 80s, and he was talking
about Peter Sellers. 

781
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,120
And I remember my dad actually 
saying something like, yeah, 

782
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,280
yeah, of course, of course he is
because he was always, you know,

783
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,560
following him around. 
And so I guess it must have 

784
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:10,080
been, like, fairly well known 
even, you know, back in the 70s 

785
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,040
and 80s and what have you. 
It's like, whatever sellers 

786
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,280
goes, you know, stock will be a 
few paces behind them. 

787
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,560
Yeah. 
Yeah, a few other people that 

788
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:23,000
are in the film, Barely in the 
case of Victor Spinetti, much to

789
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:29,040
his chagrin because a lot of his
sequences just got cut. 

790
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,120
So Victor Spinetti plays the 
hotel concierge. 

791
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,720
He he did like a one man show in
the 80s which was recorded and 

792
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:43,280
put out on cassette. 
And I had it years ago and he 

793
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:48,000
talked about this film and how 
he was so pissed off that he'd 

794
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,400
be cut from most of it. 
Or his bits have been cut most 

795
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,480
of his bits. 
And because he was such a, you 

796
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:00,280
know, a friend to the stars, a 
star himself, of course, but he 

797
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,760
was very good friends with 
Richard Burton and Liz Taylor, 

798
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,840
who were back to them again, 
who, who were in town. 

799
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,360
And there was the after, well, 
what would you call it? 

800
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,880
The, the party afterwards, after
the premiere at which Peter 

801
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,480
Sellers was holding court and 
all the great and the good were 

802
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,800
there and the the press and 
whatnot, and Victor Spinetti 

803
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,920
and, well, he turns up with 
Richard Burton and Liz Taylor, 

804
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,840
who were uninvited. 
But they're such huge stars. 

805
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,400
Peter Sellers can't turn them 
away. 

806
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:38,560
And it's, it's deliberately 
designed to basically annoy 

807
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,200
Peter Sellers, which it which it
does. 

808
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,880
But yeah, so he, he, he, he, I 
mean, he's he's fine. 

809
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,280
We don't see much of him in this
film. 

810
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,440
Mike Grady gets more screen 
time. 

811
00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:51,800
Yes, he does, isn't he? 
Yes, and he's. 

812
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,080
Great Mike Grady, he. 
Is he's he's really good. 

813
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:55,000
I've actually just been 
watching. 

814
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,920
So on that's TV, it's on the the
repeats of Citizen Smith, which 

815
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,720
I think is actually bizarrely 
getting a Blu-ray release. 

816
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:05,800
Yes, yeah, that's weird. 
Yeah, he's really good at that. 

817
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,000
And of course, I guess nobody's 
he's he's probably most 

818
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,840
associated with Last of Summer 
Wine. 

819
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:16,920
I also remember him being 
regular in Did you wash up the 

820
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,160
garden path? 
Melda Staunton. 

821
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,400
Aware of it, but yeah. 
Yeah, he was a regular on that 

822
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,840
as well, which I think it was 
originally a Radio 4 series. 

823
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,240
I'm just going to briefly 
mention a bit. 

824
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:31,360
Vito Spinetti, by the way. 
Oh, yeah, it does. 

825
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,120
It does tie in with this very 
film. 

826
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:40,520
Years ago, I read Chris Donald's
book about the the origin of of 

827
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:41,320
fizz. 
Yeah. 

828
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:46,160
And he talked at one point about
finding himself at an award 

829
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,560
ceremony, I think, at the same 
table as Catherine Zeta Jones 

830
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,160
when she was the sort of like 
the initial sort of height of 

831
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,080
her early theme, having been in 
Darling. 

832
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:00,520
But it's me and Victor Spinetti 
was effectively her sort of 

833
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:05,120
chaperone for the evening. 
And when when Chris Donald was 

834
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,200
introduced to Victor Spinetti, 
he he'd written in the book that

835
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,680
he looked at me in the same way 
as he looked at close or when 

836
00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:13,720
close asked him, do you have a 
room? 

837
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,200
I don't know how participantity 
would have would have reacted if

838
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,320
he actually just roughed up to 
him and said go on, do the face,

839
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,760
go on. 
I'll give you the line. 

840
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,400
Give me, give me the face. 
Come on, you're a professional. 

841
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,800
Come on. 
We miss you. 

842
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,920
Do you have a limb? 
A. 

843
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:38,960
Limb what? 
You said do I have a limb? 

844
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,200
I know perfectly well what I 
said. 

845
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:46,040
I said do you have a room? 
You mean do I have a room? 

846
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,080
It is what I I have been saying 
if. 

847
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,080
Do you? 
Have a reservation. 

848
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:01,520
I am Inspector Cruiser of the 
Certe and I'm here on the 

849
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,040
official police business. 
Whether you're here on the 

850
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,920
official police business or not,
this is the height of the season

851
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:12,360
and the hotel is full. 
Listen, my friend, this is a 

852
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,240
matter of national importance 
and if you continue to be 

853
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:18,760
difficult with me, I shall have 
no alternative. 

854
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,800
But I have speaks with my 
superiors. 

855
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:30,080
That case was here. 
We do have room. 

856
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,520
I thought this match. 
I get the feeling it's it's 

857
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,920
never been made clear, but the 
inferences that Sellers asked 

858
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,240
for Mike Grady to be cast in 
this film. 

859
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,080
He said he saw him that it 
wasn't an advert, it was an. 

860
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:48,000
Advert on TV, Mike Grady, I 
think it was for Pepsi, I think.

861
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:54,760
And Sellers told the entire crew
that this particular advert that

862
00:51:54,760 --> 00:52:00,160
Mike was in was the funniest 
thing on TV and as a result, it 

863
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,400
helped Mike Grady settle in on 
set. 

864
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:09,160
Sellers could be very generous 
sometimes, and of course Carol 

865
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,200
Cleveland is in this film. 
But although you don't really, 

866
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,000
well, you do see it, but you 
don't really see it, do you? 

867
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,920
She she actually appears in some
of the the the newspaper 

868
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,480
publicity for return. 
And yeah, like you, you 

869
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,360
mentioned or fair that that she 
yeah, originally she'd been 

870
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,640
intended to have a a much sort 
of bigger role in this. 

871
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,240
But yeah, I'm I'm not sure that 
the I've lost kind of how many 

872
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:33,360
times I've actually seen this 
film. 

873
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,640
And it wasn't until a few years 
ago, actually, that was Kyle 

874
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:37,960
Cleveland, than that one brief 
scene. 

875
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,000
Cluso sat on the edge of the 
what? 

876
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,840
The swimming pool perched on the
edge. 

877
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,320
And she, she dives in, you don't
see her face. 

878
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,120
And he he obviously falls 
backwards into the bull. 

879
00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:53,920
And yeah, it's just the 
synchronisation is is parallel. 

880
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaking of which, Speaking of 
like, noticing things in the 

881
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,840
film, I'm ashamed to say. 
Again, spoilers. 

882
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,280
Sorry about this. 
I'm ashamed to say that this is 

883
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,840
actually the very first time 
that I had spotted at the 

884
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,560
Catherine shell in our disguise 
is visible in the opening 

885
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,840
sequence. 
Me too, me too. 

886
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,120
We said that, didn't we? 
Because if you blink and you 

887
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:20,080
miss it. 
But yeah, I also asked when we 

888
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,280
were watching. 
I said, is Dreyfus overreacting 

889
00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:29,680
to Cluso here? 
See, because, yeah, I did wonder

890
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,960
about this and I'm, I'm sort of 
thinking that a modern 

891
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,280
expression microaggressions, 
although they're not really 

892
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,160
supposed to say micro 
transgressions in this case 

893
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:40,600
because they're not really 
intentional clues. 

894
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:45,280
Those not trying to to wind up 
Dreyfus, but I think that the 

895
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,840
the yeah, what it's like, I 
mean, just like certain people, 

896
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,080
for whatever reason, if you just
don't gel with somebody and then

897
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,760
and if anything that they do is 
everything on your nerves? 

898
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,520
Yes. 
And I'm thinking that's, that's,

899
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,080
that's the situation with 
Dreyfus. 

900
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,120
I don't know if it's, I don't 
know if it's a bit sort of, you 

901
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,880
know, improper to use this, this
word. 

902
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,760
So I apologise if you want to 
beep this, this is fine. 

903
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,160
But I was introduced some months
ago. 

904
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,560
I think it was actually tilt 
again, who introduced me to 

905
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,440
this, to the, the phrase. 
I think it's actually, it's sort

906
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,680
of, it's probably dated now, but
it was in common use on on the 

907
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:23,240
Internet previously. 
Bitch eating crackers, which I 

908
00:54:23,240 --> 00:54:26,400
understand to mean if you have 
such an utterly irrational 

909
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:30,680
dislike of somebody, then if you
actually just saw that person 

910
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,440
eating crackers, you'd you'd say
something about look at God, 

911
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,120
look at that. 
I was telling a friend about 

912
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,320
this a little while ago and the 
the analogy that we actually 

913
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,760
drew was the infamous shot of 
Sean Murphy using mini Cheddar's

914
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,160
in his dressing room. 
Is that, Yeah, it's oh God, that

915
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,480
bloody Sean Murphy. 
Look, look at I'm just wolfing 

916
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,520
those bloody things. 
Then I bet you end up with the 

917
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,320
Branson pickle flavour of Noel 
Git. 

918
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,760
So. 
But no, I think, I think, yeah, 

919
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,640
it's, that's what it is with 
Dreyfus is it's just that it's I

920
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,520
think there's probably there's 
going to be an element of. 

921
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:09,280
He knows that Clouseau has 
managed to lock his way into 

922
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,400
being known as the famed 
detective who recovered the pink

923
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:18,600
pan for the last time and so on.
And on top of that, then, yeah, 

924
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,360
I guess it's just one of those 
things where they're they're 

925
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,000
never going to jail. 
And. 

926
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,040
Yeah. 
Cluso fails upwards yes I think 

927
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:33,120
Catherine Shell is is very good 
in this for what she's given to 

928
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,240
two because I don't believe 
that's actually I don't believe 

929
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:39,560
that's her actually carrying out
the heist yeah I. 

930
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,520
Wondered about that because, you
know, I'd never really made that

931
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,240
connection before because I'd 
like I say, I hadn't spotted 

932
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:47,360
that she was in the opening 
scene. 

933
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,120
And obviously I, you know, could
work out then late later on. 

934
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,920
But I, I for whatever reason, I 
always looked at that opening 

935
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,920
scene entirely disconnected from
the reveal later on that she's 

936
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,120
behind the heist. 
Seeing her in the first scene 

937
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,600
and then seeing that the whole 
scene play out. 

938
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,560
It it plays sort of differently 
because it's quite a physical 

939
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,040
scene. 
And it's yeah, there's a there's

940
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,960
a lot going on there and evading
all like the the guards and the 

941
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,800
big shootout and so on. 
I don't know. 

942
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,200
It doesn't, it doesn't quite sit
well. 

943
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,760
Then I. 
Never noticed the plot as a kid,

944
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:26,400
in fact I don't think it's until
this viewing perhaps and I must 

945
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,200
have seen this film 8 times, 
maybe more. 

946
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,680
Yeah. 
That I actually sort of started 

947
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,280
taking notice of the non 
Clouseau bits, you know, with 

948
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,880
with Christopher Plummer digging
about and what and what not. 

949
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:47,040
You know, I didn't. 
Yeah, because it is it is a 

950
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:52,000
comedy film, but there's a lot 
of action sequences and drama, 

951
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,600
isn't there? 
Yeah, I. 

952
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,080
Actually find that those 
sequences, they're the kind of 

953
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,240
things that that wouldn't, they 
would have bored me if I've 

954
00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:01,400
been, if I'd gone back to my 
like, I don't know, 8 year old 

955
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,440
self watching this in the mid 
80s or something. 

956
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,720
I actually really like those 
sequences now. 

957
00:57:05,720 --> 00:57:09,640
I find some of them the the most
engaging sequences of the of the

958
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,040
film. 
I like the fact that it's got 

959
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:16,240
the, the confidence to to to let
the film breathe, to say, OK, 

960
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,000
we're not going to have any 
laughs for a few minutes. 

961
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,560
We're just going to we're going 
to have a bit of a sort of 

962
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,960
subplot going on. 
I suppose there's also going to 

963
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,800
be an element with, with 
anything else, like we talked 

964
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,760
about the the ITC, the great 
thing of, you know, make it look

965
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,080
bloody good, you know, have the 
have the persuasion to go 

966
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,080
somewhere glamorous. 
And so you get to see a lot of 

967
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:40,280
of, you know, very sort of 
stylish sets and, and, and 

968
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,080
visuals and so on. 
But I think it it gives it gives

969
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,720
a film a bit of of depth, but. 
Then the subsequent films like 

970
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,200
strikes again it it very much 
gluesy heavy. 

971
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,880
There wasn't a lot of non 
cluesive content. 

972
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,640
A bit like, you know, when when 
Poochie's not in a scene, have 

973
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,040
the other character say, where's
Poochie? 

974
00:57:59,880 --> 00:58:01,560
Where's? 
That kind of mentality. 

975
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:07,480
Yeah, and, and I actually think 
it's I think it's actually, it's

976
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,800
one, it's a critique that you 
often hear about modern 

977
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,160
comedies. 
And by modern, I mean within 

978
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,400
like last, you know, 25 years. 
And I'm mainly thinking of 

979
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:19,960
television, a role in the film. 
But you you do get now a a lot 

980
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:25,040
of, of, of comedies which have 
very long sequences without any 

981
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:30,960
obvious sort of gags. 
And, and quite often, yeah, the 

982
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,080
drama seems to be sort of 
weighing the comedy down. 

983
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:39,400
And it'd be nice if it sort of 
reverse it a little bit more to,

984
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,160
you know, a comedy being a 
comedy. 

985
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,480
But yeah, I think, I think it 
works. 

986
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,600
I think that the balance worked 
perfectly in this. 

987
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,920
It never goes too far in in One 
Direction or the other. 

988
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,600
Yeah. 
Yeah, a few other names in this 

989
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:54,640
that we haven't mentioned so 
far. 

990
00:58:55,240 --> 00:59:02,280
Andre Moran, who plays Francois,
which is Dreyfus's number 2, 

991
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:07,080
basically his assistant. 
Yes, we we saw him most recently

992
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:12,160
in what was the film we watched 
that really obscure B movie from

993
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:17,120
the 50s, Rogue's Yarn. 
That was it, yes. 

994
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:18,760
Yes, that's right. 
Yes, where? 

995
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,440
Where? 
Where bizarrely, Andre Moran, 

996
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,880
who played uncredited fisherman,
I think was was the only face we

997
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,080
recognised in the whole country.
Yes. 

998
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,240
I've actually been apart from 
apart from being Panther, 

999
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,040
probably the the thing that he's
he's most remembered for would 

1000
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:37,480
be Gourmet Day episode of 40s 
hours. 

1001
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,800
Yes, as. 
As Andre, Yes. 

1002
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:41,840
The restaurateur. 
That's right. 

1003
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,080
Yeah, He's he's great in this. 
He he doesn't do much. 

1004
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:53,040
He does get to be in the final 
scene with the fortune cookie. 

1005
00:59:55,600 --> 01:00:00,200
I like the fact he he seems he 
and Cluso seem to get on just 

1006
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:01,520
fine, don't they? 
Yes. 

1007
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,400
There, there was some the 
trouble. 

1008
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,160
Oh God, which film is it? 
No. 

1009
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:12,480
Is it Silo strikes again revenge
where you just get a little sort

1010
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:18,960
of hidden into his potential 
because Dreyfus mentioned 

1011
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:23,480
Simmons says yes, he was, you 
know, he's a promising officer 

1012
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,200
with a career ahead of him. 
And then he was assigned to 

1013
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,440
Clueso. 
And it's almost sort of like 

1014
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,960
saying that Clueso sort of, you 
know, held him back in some 

1015
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:31,800
ways. 
Because I suppose if, if you 

1016
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,160
were assigned to Clueso, then 
you'd end up, you know, having 

1017
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:38,880
to, you know, troubleshoot a lot
of stuff, yes, going on around 

1018
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:43,320
you, which is not necessarily 
going to boost your own career 

1019
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:47,160
advancement. 
Mark my words, Francois, before 

1020
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,400
the week is out, I will 
definitely approve that. 

1021
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,920
So Charles Litton is a phantom. 
Did you enjoy your food? 

1022
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,040
Oh, yes, yes, Sir. 
Very nice. 

1023
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,120
You'll probably guess that with 
the passion for the Oriental 

1024
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:03,440
food, keto usually does some 
cooking for me, but recently 

1025
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,520
it's taken to attacking me at 
every chance. 

1026
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:14,160
It's very bad for the digestion.
That is very strange, Francois. 

1027
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:19,800
I don't ever recall receiving 
the fortune cookie in a Japanese

1028
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:20,840
restaurant. 
What? 

1029
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:28,320
Does it say? 
Which I've seen farewell of 

1030
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:32,280
Japanese wet dress bearing 
fortune cookies. 

1031
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:35,600
Japanese. 
What's this? 

1032
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:52,160
No, you idiot. 
We were talking about recast or 

1033
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:56,040
not recasting, but casting for 
this proposed television series 

1034
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,440
of the, Yeah, Return of the Pink
Panther or whatever. 

1035
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:05,120
Obviously Mike Grady went on to 
be a fixture of Last of the 

1036
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,360
Summer Wine and in In His Late 
Years. 

1037
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:12,400
Bert Kwok turns up on that as a 
character as well, doesn't he? 

1038
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,480
Who else from this film do you 
think could have been a 

1039
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,200
character in Last of the Summer 
Wine? 

1040
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,600
OK, do we know for sure that 
David Lodge was never in last of

1041
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:24,280
the Summer Wine? 
Oh, I. 

1042
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,920
Don't know, he probably should 
have been. 

1043
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:32,200
Yeah, I would have thought so. 
OK, hang on, God, let me think 

1044
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:33,120
now. 
I'm not. 

1045
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:34,480
I'm not deliberately not looking
it up. 

1046
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:37,440
OK? 
Christopher Plummer? 

1047
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,200
Probably not. 
No. 

1048
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:46,880
No, I mean was was Fitz Spinetti
ever in losses all way I. 

1049
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,160
I can't see him. 
I mean, he was in Boston, wasn't

1050
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:50,680
he? 
One episode, Yes, indeed. 

1051
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,320
Yeah. 
OK, I'll see. 

1052
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,040
I'm thinking. 
I'm thinking because of, you 

1053
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,800
know, he'd, he'd made, he'd been
in Vicar Dibley. 

1054
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,760
So he's used to sitcoms. 
He's been in loads of sitcoms. 

1055
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,200
I was thinking John Bluth or 
maybe as a, as an Australian 

1056
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:07,920
OAP. 
Yeah, who? 

1057
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,840
Who moves to Holmfirth and 
causes all sorts of ruckus? 

1058
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,160
OK, to to to switch around then 
who from last Summer Wine could 

1059
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:17,600
have been in ton of the Pink 
Panther. 

1060
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,720
Peter Salas just to confuse 
things. 

1061
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:26,760
Steven Lewis. 
I would have liked to have seen 

1062
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:32,600
Inspector Blake somehow work his
way into the Pink Panther 

1063
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:37,320
universe. 
Stephen Lewis as Dreyfuss's 

1064
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:42,280
superior who's who's very 
supportive of Cluso and hates 

1065
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,400
Dreyfus. 
He hate you, Dreyfus. 

1066
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,480
Yeah, I, I, I like the, I like 
this. 

1067
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:54,800
OK but who else who could 
bellowin play in the ton of the 

1068
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,120
Pink Panther? 
Well, he'd he'd have been the 

1069
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,600
greatest style character. 
He'd have been Pepe, wouldn't 

1070
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:02,800
he? 
No, you're not buying it. 

1071
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,560
I'm, I'm seeing him with a bit 
more of an edge, seeing him a 

1072
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:11,920
bit more perhaps, maybe maybe 
one of the fat man's associates 

1073
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,000
or something like that. 
Not not heavy as such, but but 

1074
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,400
somebody who's, yeah, I don't 
see him as being a weedy 

1075
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,720
character like. 
Brian Wilde would have been the 

1076
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,480
analyst, you know, the the role 
that Peter Jones played, yes, 

1077
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:30,320
Dreyfus's analyst that have been
that have been foggy, yeah. 

1078
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:35,120
Yeah, of course, Peter Jeffrey 
is is in this, isn't he, he. 

1079
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,280
Is briefly yes, briefly. 
Yes, yeah. 

1080
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:48,760
Yeah, and diving into the pool. 
Kathy staff, do you think? 

1081
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:55,120
It, it, it, it makes this, the 
scene memorable in a different 

1082
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,120
way. 
Is, is is 1 where I would, I 

1083
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,880
would sort of put that I'm going
to apologise a little bit 

1084
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,120
because I'm, I'm shocked at 
myself. 

1085
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,280
I apologise. 
I've been mispronouncing his son

1086
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:07,880
name here. 
I'm going to say Peter ARN. 

1087
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:14,080
I'm not sure. 
But yeah, he he's got tremendous

1088
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:15,800
presence. 
I really like him in this film, 

1089
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:21,440
especially that last scene with 
like, yes, the shootout and what

1090
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:22,520
have you. 
Yeah. 

1091
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,800
And he's somebody that for 
whatever reason, I I've not 

1092
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,680
really seen him in a lot of 
other things. 

1093
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,360
Like I don't think he he's 
because I'm, I'm mainly, I'm 

1094
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,440
sort of, you know, a comedy film
fan. 

1095
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:36,920
Yes. 
Ever watched films? 

1096
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:43,320
So I think generally speaking, 
he was he was more often in like

1097
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,200
dramas, war films. 
A lot of war films I've seen him

1098
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:47,160
in. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1099
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,680
But I'm just I'm just looking up
his details here just now and I 

1100
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:53,120
think he may have been in more 
than one of the Pink Panther 

1101
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:54,960
films. 
I'm just going to quickly check 

1102
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,080
this. 
OK, I'll go. 

1103
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:57,840
Wait. 
Yeah. 

1104
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,960
OK. 
So he's he's technically he's in

1105
01:05:59,960 --> 01:06:01,960
Trail and Curse. 
OK. 

1106
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:03,960
Yeah, I was. 
I was thinking. 

1107
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:06,000
I don't actually remember him 
being in any of the other. 

1108
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,120
Oh my God. 
What? 

1109
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,360
Hang on a minute. 
No, hey. 

1110
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:11,920
You know what All film, all film
he's in. 

1111
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:19,480
Go on 19. 55. 
They've lodged it, yes. 

1112
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,760
Cocker Shell heroes, everybody. 
'S in Cocker shell heroes 

1113
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:31,440
everyone. 
Just a quick nod to Catherine 

1114
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:37,440
Shell, who famously corpsed at 
everything Peter Sellers did on 

1115
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,720
set. 
And it was left in the film, 

1116
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:45,080
most of it because I think she 
charmed Blake Edwards. 

1117
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:48,720
I think he he was charmed by her
corpsing, giggling. 

1118
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:57,720
So OK, corpsing on film and 
having it left in Gary. 10 

1119
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:04,800
minutes go. 
Yeah, we, we are, we are going 

1120
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,600
to not only are we are we going 
to to discuss on on your on your

1121
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,040
spinoff show at some point we're
going to discuss come play with 

1122
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,280
me. 
But I have already committed and

1123
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:18,480
I've done it yet, but I have 
committed to to making a, I 

1124
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,160
don't know, PG version of of 
come play with me. 

1125
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:22,760
They see. 
Babies, Yeah. 

1126
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,120
They could, they could be, they 
could be seen without. 

1127
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,080
I mean, I was going to say it 
could be seen without 

1128
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:28,680
embarrassment. 
No, that's not true. 

1129
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:30,920
There was, there was no edit of 
come play with me that could be 

1130
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,560
seen without embarrassment. 
But I'm, I'm going to remove all

1131
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:36,720
the unity from it and just leave
you with like a sort of 10 

1132
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,920
minute cut of what's left. 
But oh, of course, Hey, and 

1133
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:42,440
that's, oh, hang on a minute, 
right. 

1134
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,800
Start off with 10. 
Who's in? 

1135
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,800
I mean, there's probably lots of
people, but who's in? 

1136
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,760
Come play with me. 
And also in a Pink Panther film.

1137
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,160
Oh, come on. 
Alfie Bass, who then comes up in

1138
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:56,680
Revenge of the Pink Panther, of 
course. 

1139
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:57,560
He does, yes. 
A. 

1140
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:04,800
Salty old sea dog. 
But yeah, this corpse scene 

1141
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,800
that's in Come Play with me, 
that's quite special. 

1142
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,800
Yeah, tell from Thomas. 
We won't say anymore at this 

1143
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,440
point. 
For you, what what, what is the 

1144
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,680
stand out? 
What is the strongest or the 

1145
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,120
funniest sequence? 
What, what is it you think of 

1146
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:19,240
when you think of this film? 
What? 

1147
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:23,840
What bit? 
I, I really like that, that 

1148
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:28,200
sequence where he's assessing 
the, the crime scene, first of 

1149
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,560
all, just the length of time it 
takes and to actually get in 

1150
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:37,800
there in the first place. 
And once he's there, sort of 

1151
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:44,319
going through his motions of 
trying to sort of analyze Prince

1152
01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:47,760
and so on. 
And just, he'll see he sort of 

1153
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:52,000
fleets back and forward between 
he, he makes a good point about 

1154
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,000
like you need to identify where 
the wax came from for for 

1155
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,359
instance. 
And then he'll just put his hand

1156
01:08:58,359 --> 01:09:03,120
on a piece of evidence and then 
drops the ornament off the wall.

1157
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,800
He was just he was sort of he 
every once in a while he he he 

1158
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:12,359
actually he does or says 
something, which gives him a 

1159
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:15,760
little bit more depth than this 
is going to say absurd, but 

1160
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:21,120
gives him more depth than an 
impersonators version of Peter 

1161
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,720
Sellers playing Clueso would do.
Because obviously, of course, 

1162
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:29,520
every impressionist always did 
Clueso as as a buffoon, and for 

1163
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:33,279
the most part he is, but he's 
not an entire buffoon. 

1164
01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:37,800
He, he is occasionally capable 
of coming up with little 

1165
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,120
observations, bits and pieces 
and so on. 

1166
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:46,000
Which sort of underlined that 
you could not be an absolute 

1167
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,800
utter walking calamity and 
expect to to have such a senior 

1168
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:54,560
rank you you, you must at least 
have some sort of semblance of 

1169
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:58,880
of common sense. 
Yes, yeah, Moments of clarity, I

1170
01:09:59,440 --> 01:10:02,160
suppose. 
That scene, I love that scene 

1171
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:08,520
because it shows Sellers, even 
though he was becoming quite ill

1172
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,760
and he would get progressively 
more I'll as the years went on, 

1173
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:15,960
you know, only five years left 
to live, really. 

1174
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,160
But I think he's at the height 
of his comic powers and some of 

1175
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,400
the scenes in this film, 
particularly that that scene in 

1176
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:27,560
the museum when he's got the 
metal claw arm thing, whatever 

1177
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:31,800
you want to call it. 
And it just it hits him in the 

1178
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:36,200
spuds and he just because his 
his calling card. 

1179
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:44,720
It's just it's not overdone. 
It's just perfect delivery. 

1180
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,480
Yeah, he pulled himself across 
the floor. 

1181
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:50,040
He did. 
How? 

1182
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,000
Else could he avoid the radar 
field? 

1183
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:57,720
Yes, how else? 
Of course, you would need a very

1184
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,920
slippery floor to do that. 
Therefore, the wax the. 

1185
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:07,160
Wax, are you? 
All right, course. 

1186
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,040
I am all right in examining the 
wax. 

1187
01:11:15,300 --> 01:11:17,100
Have you taken a sample of this 
wax? 

1188
01:11:18,100 --> 01:11:19,460
Wax is wax. 
Oh. 

1189
01:11:19,580 --> 01:11:22,540
This is where you are wrong. 
Wax is not just wax. 

1190
01:11:23,180 --> 01:11:27,520
In this case it is a clue. 
English wax, French wax, 

1191
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,840
domestic wax. 
The inspector is right. 

1192
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:36,600
Have the wax tested immediately.
It's my guess that you will find

1193
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,000
it is English wax. 
Why? 

1194
01:11:40,480 --> 01:11:42,320
Because your thief is an 
Englishman. 

1195
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,920
How do you know that? 
It is my business to know that 

1196
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,120
he is a Charles Phantom, the 
notorious Litton. 

1197
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,760
The Phantom. 
Yes, one and the same. 

1198
01:11:57,440 --> 01:11:58,520
Is. 
Calling card. 

1199
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,400
I found away something when I 
was going through my clippings. 

1200
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:08,960
I found away something that I 
had the temerity, nay, the 

1201
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,880
audacity to think that this 
might have been something that 

1202
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:14,440
that you yourself were not aware
of. 

1203
01:12:16,440 --> 01:12:19,600
But I'm also concerned that I 
might have slightly broken the 

1204
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:24,400
Internet and doing so because 
when I found this clipping, it's

1205
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,880
from the same Sunday Mirror 
article that I mentioned before 

1206
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,480
August 74. 
And I found this. 

1207
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:30,920
I thought, oh, I've got to find 
out more. 

1208
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,280
But this, this sounds 
intriguing. 

1209
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,320
And when I googled it, it was 
nothing. 

1210
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,800
And I don't know what the the 
modern slang is for Googling 

1211
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:42,000
something and getting zero hits,
because I presume it's not all 

1212
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:46,040
that common an instance these 
days. 

1213
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,520
But I'm disappointed to say that
in Googling it now, there's 

1214
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,600
actually one hits come back, and
it appears to be in a 

1215
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:56,400
Czechoslovakian cinema journal 
from 1975. 

1216
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:01,320
Right. 
So there was this this this this

1217
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:07,840
piece here the the principal 
framing of this article was the 

1218
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,520
headlines. 
Settlers scares him. 

1219
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,200
Peter's new role gives Hollywood
the jitters. 

1220
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,840
The film isn't even made yet, 
but already Hollywood has got 

1221
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,840
the jitters. 
Its villain, played by Peter 

1222
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,680
Sellers, is the Hollywood agent,
traditionally a money grabbing 

1223
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:29,360
Mr. 10%. 
Also in the line of fire are 

1224
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,240
American politics and a future 
President of the United States. 

1225
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:37,000
Already there are mutterings of 
the film called Zwam. 

1226
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:42,360
Zwa Double M will be so anti 
American that Hollywood may 

1227
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,000
sabotage it. 
But Peter Sellers remains 

1228
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,960
unworried. 
My astrologer tells me that I am

1229
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:51,080
in for a good spell from a queer
point of view. 

1230
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:56,880
He told me in Zwam he is to play
two different roles, as a 

1231
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,840
visitor from outer space and as 
the agent. 

1232
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,920
The agent wheels and deals and 
ends up running everybody on the

1233
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,320
American scene. 
Does he have a particular age in

1234
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,160
mind? 
Yes, he said. 

1235
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,440
I will do his voice, of course, 
but I will not be made-up to 

1236
01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:13,240
look like him. 
That would be going too far. 

1237
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,280
How much Mickey will be taken 
out of the office of the 

1238
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:19,160
president. 
The character will be an honest 

1239
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:21,120
man to the point of being 
boring. 

1240
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:27,000
Zwam, in case you wonder, is the
name of the spaceship in which 

1241
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,200
settlers and the fellow visitor 
arrive on Earth. 

1242
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:31,560
And I'm going to pause at that 
point. 

1243
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,440
That's as much as it has this 
article has to say, but the 

1244
01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:38,080
film's one swam. 
There's key, one key piece of 

1245
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:39,480
information that I've held back 
here. 

1246
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:46,000
But suffice to say, I'm not 
finding any reference to to Swam

1247
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:50,520
on IMDb or on the Netflix, you 
know, recommended for you Rail 

1248
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,200
or anywhere else. 
At all. 

1249
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,840
I'm I'm glad of that because we 
did an episode of films Peter 

1250
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,040
Sellers never made and Zwam was 
not mentioned because I'm, I'm 

1251
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:04,640
totally unaware of that. 
Do you say he's plays an alien 

1252
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:06,840
and a film agent or something? 
So. 

1253
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:11,920
Yeah, he was going to play an 
alien and that Zwam is that. 

1254
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,000
Yeah. 
So that's that's the name of 

1255
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,040
spaceship. 
And he's also going to play this

1256
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:17,240
agent and he doesn't name and 
the article doesn't name who the

1257
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:19,200
agent is based upon. 
OK. 

1258
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,800
Because. 
Because there was a film rooted 

1259
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:26,480
in development hell for years 
called The Alien, which was 

1260
01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:31,640
going to be directed by the 
Indian director Satija Ray. 

1261
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,360
Apologies for pronunciation 
there folks. 

1262
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:39,440
And Salas was going to be in 
that as I think the the alien or

1263
01:15:39,480 --> 01:15:41,400
an alien. 
So that's, I don't know if 

1264
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,120
there's any connection. 
Probably no, no connection 

1265
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:46,000
whatsoever. 
But that's that's intriguing. 

1266
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:47,840
Do you? 
Want to hazard a guess as to who

1267
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:52,960
was going to play his fellow 
visitor from the the spaceship? 

1268
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:01,600
Is it a Britisher? 
It's not a Britisher, no. 

1269
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,560
So a comedy actor? 
Yeah. 

1270
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:09,000
One of one of the greats, yeah. 
One of the greats, yes. 

1271
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:14,080
OK, Phil Silvers. 
No, not Phil Silvers. 

1272
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,480
He's got an association. 
I mentioned the Persuaders 

1273
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:21,160
earlier on. 
He has an association with Tony 

1274
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,720
Curtis. 
Jack Lemmon? 

1275
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:25,760
Jack Lemmon. 
Yes. 

1276
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:30,000
Wow. 
Jack Lemmon and Sellers working 

1277
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,240
together. 
Could you imagine that? 

1278
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:33,440
Do you think they would have 
gone on? 

1279
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:42,160
I, I don't know, it's hard to 
say Sellers. 

1280
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:46,040
I mean, Jack Lemmon is such a 
wonderful comic actor and, and, 

1281
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,040
and straight actor. 
He can do everything really 

1282
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:50,560
well. 
I suspect Sellers may have may 

1283
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,480
have been some jealousy creeping
in there and sell his part. 

1284
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:58,480
I mean I. 
Get, I certainly it sounds less 

1285
01:16:58,480 --> 01:17:06,160
fanciful than some of the, the 
sort of the sort of novelty 

1286
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:10,600
casting that you get when you 
see like, you know, like the, 

1287
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:14,800
the newspaper, the the, the 
Hollywood press where they're 

1288
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:16,600
sort of talking about this 
person could do that, they can 

1289
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:19,920
do this and so on. 
Because Jack Lemmon I think did,

1290
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:24,080
he did work with Blake Edwards 
and Julie Andrews on a film 

1291
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,240
called That's Life, I think in 
the mid 80s. 

1292
01:17:27,080 --> 01:17:30,400
So it's not as if he's got no 
association. 

1293
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,280
That's all with Blake Edwards. 
It's not like. 

1294
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:34,920
It's just no, you can pull that.
Thin air, yeah. 

1295
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,080
But yeah, it's very difficult to
say, isn't it? 

1296
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:40,800
Because he knows in a parallel 
universe, settlers and Orson 

1297
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:42,320
Welles could have been best 
buddies. 

1298
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:44,280
Yes. 
He knows, absolutely. 

1299
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:47,080
Yeah. 
That's intriguing. 

1300
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:49,840
So Zwam. 
Yes, I have to. 

1301
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,160
I have. 
To look that up, although I 

1302
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:57,360
won't find anything about it. 
I've got a little challenge for 

1303
01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:58,320
you, actually, Gary. 
Yeah. 

1304
01:17:58,520 --> 01:17:59,560
Right. 
OK, I. 

1305
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,280
Didn't warn you about this. 
Oh, good, good. 

1306
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:04,800
So obviously. 
So the the Return of the Pink 

1307
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:08,680
Panther was was one of the most 
popular films of its year of 75.

1308
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,360
The film performed 
extraordinarily well in what 

1309
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:17,760
was, you know, a fairly 
unremarkable year for For film 

1310
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:20,480
comedies, Yeah, but there were 
some There were some notable 

1311
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:23,880
comedy films. 
Monty Python and the Holy Grail,

1312
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:25,880
yes. 
The Adventures of Sherlock 

1313
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:30,720
Holmes's Marty, brother Woody 
Allen's Love and death carry on 

1314
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,320
behind, of course, which was. 
Probably. 

1315
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,240
Probably the last half decent 
Carry on film, do you? 

1316
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:36,560
Reckon. 
How about if you don't If you 

1317
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:39,640
don't include England? 
Absolutely not. 

1318
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,920
Including England. 
The Sunshine Boys. 

1319
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:47,600
Oh, yes, yes, yes. 
Confessions of a pop performer, 

1320
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:48,400
yeah. 
Exactly. 

1321
01:18:48,440 --> 01:18:49,200
Yeah. 
Pop Tart. 

1322
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:53,240
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
But Gary, I have seven other 

1323
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:58,360
comedies here. 
All all were released in 1975, 

1324
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,360
right? 
Oh my God, Six of these are 

1325
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:04,000
genuine and one of made-up, 
right? 

1326
01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:07,760
And your job is to pick out the 
phony ringer, Right? 

1327
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:11,920
All right. 
OK, OK, so the first, first film

1328
01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:13,920
is called The Blackbird. 
OK. 

1329
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,800
And it's a humorous twist on The
Maltese Falcon. 

1330
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:21,280
And it has George Siegel playing
Sam Spade's son. 

1331
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:29,080
And when Sam Spade, the private 
Dick, dies, his son inherits his

1332
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:32,160
detective agency. 
And at one point, he comes up 

1333
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,240
against a bold Nazi dwarf who's 
surrounded by a group of 

1334
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:40,240
menacing Hawaiian thugs. 
I can, I can picture all of that

1335
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:44,080
because George Sequel made a 
hell of a lot of films and I can

1336
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:45,960
absolutely imagine them just 
doing that. 

1337
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:49,040
And then, yeah, that's that. 
OK, so make a note on your pad 

1338
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:50,560
there. 
OK, that's the first one. 

1339
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,840
But the the Blackbird is that. 
Is that real or or I'm? 

1340
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,920
I'm going to say, I'm going to 
say, I'm going to say real from 

1341
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:57,320
that. 
Yep. 

1342
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,200
OK. 
Next film side by side. 

1343
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,280
I've I've heard of that film. 
Oh, that one's. 

1344
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:04,960
Real. 
Yeah. 

1345
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,320
OK, well, I'll just for the for 
the. 

1346
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,200
That one's a funny one that I'm 
doing what the hell I'm thinking

1347
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:11,960
of. 
But yeah, definitely remember 

1348
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:12,800
that title. 
Yeah. 

1349
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,920
It's a pop comedy film directed 
by Aussie director Bruce 

1350
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:19,400
Beresford, who his two previous 
films, by the way, were the 

1351
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:24,600
Barry McKenzie movies But But 
but But. 

1352
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:30,720
Despite that, Beresford 
described this film as the worst

1353
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:37,920
script you've ever read, and the
film is about two rival 

1354
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:43,440
nightclubs in a in a town, one 
of which is run by Terry Thomas 

1355
01:20:43,440 --> 01:20:49,320
and Barry Humphreys. 
And a local magistrate rules 

1356
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:54,880
that only one nightclub license 
will be renewed, so the two so 

1357
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,240
the two clubs compete to attract
the top acts, including Mud and 

1358
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,240
the Rubeats. 
Do you know what? 

1359
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:02,120
I'm actually going to be 
genuinely disappointed if this 

1360
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:03,800
turns out to be the funny one, 
because I really want to see 

1361
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,720
this one now. 
Can you make it? 

1362
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:09,320
Terry Thomas twitching a hip to 
the roubettes? 

1363
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:10,600
Oh, I've been interested. 
Comes. 

1364
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,280
Yeah, I mean. 
You know, some of the stuff that

1365
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:17,600
they ended up doing in the mid 
70s, for God's sake, the biggest

1366
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:21,520
names in in acting, didn't you? 
These are not even the films 

1367
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,600
that had like the, you know, the
Continental versions. 

1368
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,560
Irene Handle. 
Right. 

1369
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,760
So that's that's, that's side by
side now is that could that be 

1370
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:33,160
true? 
Or I'm absolutely, I'm I'm sure 

1371
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:36,800
I've actually seen that that 
that name, that title before. 

1372
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:40,000
So I'm going to say. 
OK, OK, I'm also. 

1373
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,640
I'm also. 
Going to throw in as well, I'm 

1374
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:46,680
going to say both Mike Berry and
Frank Ford will be in that film.

1375
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:53,480
I haven't got the cast listen in
front of me, but OK, next film 

1376
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,480
is called It's Me or the 
Crocodile. 

1377
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:00,440
It's an Italian film. 
I'll give you it's. 

1378
01:22:00,440 --> 01:22:02,200
Me or the crocodile? 
Come on, choose. 

1379
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:06,160
I've got the Italian title here,
which is O Me O Illinois 

1380
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:11,320
Cocodrillo. 
Apparently it's an Italian 

1381
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:16,200
action comedy starring Terence 
Hill as a zoologist who collects

1382
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,160
rare and exotic animals from 
around the world. 

1383
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:22,880
And one day his wife demands he 
get rid of his entire menagerie.

1384
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:26,880
So he he decides to leave her. 
He buys an old bus and sets off 

1385
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,200
travelling across the country 
with his animals on board. 

1386
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,080
But following an unfortunate 
incident with a mob boss and a 

1387
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:38,640
chamois he has, he has to stay 
one step ahead of some dangerous

1388
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,440
gangsters. 
I I can't really imagine that 

1389
01:22:41,440 --> 01:22:44,120
you could have made that up. 
It's got to be real, OK? 

1390
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,480
Next film. 
I wonder who's killing her now? 

1391
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:51,920
A man named Oliver, played by 
Bob Dishy. 

1392
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:54,560
Now, does Bob Dishy mean 
anything to you? 

1393
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:56,200
Oh. 
It really doesn't, no. 

1394
01:22:56,680 --> 01:23:01,360
No, he played Sergeant Wilson in
two episodes of Colombo. 

1395
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:05,320
I thought you would have seen in
two episodes of Dad's Army. 

1396
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:07,080
I thought, I don't remember any 
of this. 

1397
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:16,560
What like say part will be 
played tonight by Bob Dishy. 

1398
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:18,960
Even we don't know who Bob Dishy
is. 

1399
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:22,360
But for the sake of the show, 
would you just audience please 

1400
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,720
just go along with it, will you?
It's easier. 

1401
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:29,280
Don't panic. 
A man named Oliver, played by 

1402
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:31,720
Bob Dishy, is desperate for 
money so high as a hitman to 

1403
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:36,240
take out his wealthy wife. 
The assassin subcontracts the 

1404
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:40,040
job out to another hitman, who 
in turn subcontracts it out, and

1405
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:43,680
so on and so on until a hitman 
agrees to do the job for $7.00. 

1406
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:48,160
And when Oliver is told his 
wife's insurance is invalid, he 

1407
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,560
must rescue her before she's 
murdered. 

1408
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,160
That sounds like a lousy movie. 
Really. 

1409
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,720
It really does. 
And I'm at the moment that 

1410
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:58,880
someone give me that title 
again. 

1411
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:01,840
It's called Who's Killing on 
Now? 

1412
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:03,360
Who's Killing? 
Who's killing her now? 

1413
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,640
Yes. 
OK, I'm that at the moment, 

1414
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:07,360
that's my my front runner. 
Yeah. 

1415
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,320
OK, all right. 
Next next one White House 

1416
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:15,640
Madness, which is a satire on 
the at this time very recent 

1417
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:19,920
Watergate scandal and it has 
someone called Steve Friedman 

1418
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:26,240
playing Nixon, Rusty Blitz as 
John Ehrlichman and the guy who 

1419
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:31,120
played grandpa in the Monsters, 
Al Lewis as as Judge Cirrhosis. 

1420
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:36,800
Nixon finds his administration 
crumbling around him, and an 

1421
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:40,880
exorcist is summoned to drive 
out the demon from inside him, 

1422
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:44,240
with hilarious results. 
But yeah, that that's got to be 

1423
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,920
100% true, yeah. 
Yeah, OK. 

1424
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:54,400
The next one, Gary, pretend you 
haven't heard a bit about this 

1425
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:58,440
film, OK? 
The Spanish will. 

1426
01:24:58,440 --> 01:25:02,160
Own this film on Blue. 
It's probably in the machine 

1427
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:06,280
now. 
Spanish fly, OH. 

1428
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:14,560
God, Oh no that, that can't, no,
that can't possibly be real. 

1429
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:15,840
God, who could that be? 
That? 

1430
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,440
That would be what We've already
had Terry Thomas, so he couldn't

1431
01:25:18,440 --> 01:25:20,920
be in this one as well, could he
not? 

1432
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,440
2 bloody awful films in the same
year, Terry. 

1433
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:25,440
Frank Thornton. 
Hey. 

1434
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:30,720
Leslie Phillips The premise 
being Leslie Phillips plays an 

1435
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:37,040
impotent fashion designer who 
travels to Spain for a photo 

1436
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:41,120
shoot and encounters an old 
school rival played by who else?

1437
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:46,120
Terry Thomas and Terry Thomas. 
He has inadvertently, I'm not 

1438
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:49,920
sure how this happened, but he's
added an aphrodisiac to the 

1439
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,840
local vino. 
Apparently, yes. 

1440
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,320
Could you imagine? 
Imagine such a film. 

1441
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:59,040
OK, I've got full, Full 
disclosure, I don't think I've 

1442
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,840
actually got that recorded in my
current skybox, but I definitely

1443
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:05,560
did have it recorded at one time
on a skybox I had. 

1444
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:08,480
And it must have been from 
either Talking Pictures or 

1445
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:13,840
together TV or Film 24 or 
certainly wasn't Sky Cinema 

1446
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:18,000
Classics, that's for sure. 
But yeah, no, I, yeah. 

1447
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:22,400
So yeah, 100% rule that. 
One out OK last film. 

1448
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:25,160
Can hear the sound of the 
listeners cheering. 

1449
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,560
The last film is called. 
It seemed a good idea at the 

1450
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,640
time. 
A bit like this game. 

1451
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,720
Anthony Ewley. 
It's a playwright whose career 

1452
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,160
is flatlining. 
He spends much of his time 

1453
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:42,080
wheedling money in beer out of 
his artistic friend Moriarty, 

1454
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:48,360
played by Isaac Hayes. 
His rapidly escalating, chaotic 

1455
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,800
life culminates in a fake 
kidnapping scam. 

1456
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,960
This arouses the attention of 
two inept police officers, one 

1457
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,960
of whom is played by young John 
Candy. 

1458
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:02,920
Oh Blimey, no. 
Any information as to to where 

1459
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:06,640
that film was made but but. 
Canada, I think, right. 

1460
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:10,000
OK, I'm going to say that's 
that's true actually, because 

1461
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:14,360
was it called Find the Lady, a 
film from 76 That's good. 

1462
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,240
John Candy and Dick Henry which 
we which we watched. 

1463
01:27:17,480 --> 01:27:20,280
Yes. 
So I I've got no qualms about 

1464
01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:21,480
saying that that one's going to 
be true. 

1465
01:27:21,480 --> 01:27:23,560
There's not one that I'm 
familiar with, but I'm going to 

1466
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:25,280
say yes. 
Well the the character that John

1467
01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:28,720
Kennedy plays in this film is 
span off into find the lady. 

1468
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:33,200
Oh, OK, right there we go. 
So you've ruled out a couple 

1469
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,680
there, a handful there, yes. 
But the question is which is the

1470
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:39,000
the odd one out? 
OK. 

1471
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:43,080
I'm sure side by side is real, 
so I'm going to eliminate that 

1472
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:47,200
one, going to say that one that 
one's and I also want to see it 

1473
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:50,080
as well. 
I also yeah, Spanish fly. 

1474
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:55,360
Yeah, I'm going to say it seems 
a good idea at time. 

1475
01:27:55,360 --> 01:28:01,920
Sounds absolutely legit, 
Blackbird. 

1476
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:05,680
I'm going to say. 
I'm going to say that one's 

1477
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:07,680
actually sounds pretty real. 
Yeah. 

1478
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:09,720
George Seagal, I can visualise 
that. 

1479
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:16,880
Yeah, I'm going to say I wonder 
who's killing on that is the 

1480
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:21,640
phony? 
With Clive Dunn, Yes, Sergey, he

1481
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:27,840
tries to kill his wife. 
That one is true. 

1482
01:28:28,480 --> 01:28:30,760
Oh, exists. 
Oh my goodness. 

1483
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:36,960
The The ringer, the false film 
is it's me or the. 

1484
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,680
The one that I said was so 
absurd that you couldn't 

1485
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:46,000
possibly have made it all. 
That's that's brilliant. 

1486
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:49,720
Now, is this, is this like some 
sort of pet project of yours 

1487
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:52,480
that wasn't a pun? 
Is this like, like this is a 

1488
01:28:52,480 --> 01:28:55,120
film that you've had in your 
mind for years and you, you 

1489
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:56,800
actually, you want you can 
visualize it. 

1490
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:58,080
You can see it. 
Yeah. 

1491
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,280
Well, probably. 
You probably dreamt the entire 

1492
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:05,600
thing like scene by scene. 
I grew up on a on a diet of 

1493
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,640
Terence Hill with Bud Spencer 
films when I was a kid. 

1494
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:15,520
Are you aware of that pairing? 
I know those names, don't think 

1495
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:16,640
I've ever seen them in anything 
but. 

1496
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:21,960
They they were like comedy duo 
Italian films dubbed into 

1497
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:26,920
English badly action comedies in
the 70s and 80s really. 

1498
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:31,440
So I just thought, you know, 
I'll just I'll just I'll make up

1499
01:29:31,440 --> 01:29:35,800
11 Terence Hill and some some 
mountain goats and see see how 

1500
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:38,760
we get on and the crocodile 
I've. 

1501
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,320
Just looked up side by side. 
Oh yeah. 

1502
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:43,960
KISS, isn't it? 
Go on. 

1503
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:51,800
Find Thornton and it's also 
available. 

1504
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,240
It's available on Amazon Prime 
Video. 

1505
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:57,800
Oh, we'll have to watch that. 
Frank Thornton, of course, was 

1506
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:00,040
in last of Summer Wine. 
Well, wasn't he? 

1507
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:02,400
Oh yeah, of course. 
Yeah, truly of the art. 

1508
01:30:02,480 --> 01:30:04,280
Yes, we've come. 
Full circle, really, yeah. 

1509
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:08,840
And we've we've we've kind of 
talked about Return of the Pink 

1510
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:14,720
Panther, more or less, yeah. 
Listeners who tuned in, tuned 

1511
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:16,720
in. 
What do I sound like who who 

1512
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:21,200
downloaded this hoping to hear a
sort of scene by scene breakdown

1513
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:22,720
of the film would be very 
disappointed. 

1514
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:26,280
But hopefully you know what this
show's like by now. 

1515
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:30,160
So so Gary, is there anything 
you want to talk about mention 

1516
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:32,800
about the film that you know 
before we wrap up? 

1517
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,320
Is there anything that you 
haven't thrown into the the 

1518
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:36,800
conversation? 
I think the only. 

1519
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:41,520
The only thing I would, I would,
I would mention is that it just,

1520
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:46,120
it's so nice when the stars 
align and things just come 

1521
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:49,800
together. 
And it was obvious that it was 

1522
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:53,120
something that the Peter Sellers
needed and it was something 

1523
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:56,400
that, you know, to an extent 
Blake Edwards needed as well. 

1524
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:01,040
And Le Grade wanted wanted a 
hit. 

1525
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:04,800
And it just, everything just 
seemed to work. 

1526
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,640
There's so many films that we've
watched and discussed over the 

1527
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:09,760
years. 
We just mentioned find the lady.

1528
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,920
I remember as saying when we 
were watching that, that if you 

1529
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:17,960
just looked at it on the page, 
it's got all the components, but

1530
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:21,400
there's it's nothing that when 
you when you're watching it, 

1531
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:24,920
it's just like, you know, 
porridge. 

1532
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,160
No, I don't mean money park. 
I mean just like you're just 

1533
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:29,640
waiting your way through through
porridge. 

1534
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:31,720
You haven't even got any milk in
it. 

1535
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,960
Be a dash of salt or something. 
But it's just like it's just is 

1536
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:38,440
as plain as that. 
Hello. 

1537
01:31:38,440 --> 01:31:38,800
Riley. 
Hello. 

1538
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:43,640
This is Riley. 
Oh, is Sergeant Broome there, 

1539
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:44,640
please? 
Who launched him? 

1540
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:47,200
It's Officer Kopec, Sir. 
Kopec. 

1541
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:50,480
Yeah. 
He's not here. 

1542
01:31:50,480 --> 01:31:52,960
I'll see if he's outside. 
No, Sir. 

1543
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:54,480
You don't have Sir. 
Hello. 

1544
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:55,600
There you are. 
Kopeck. 

1545
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:57,200
Oh, Sergeant Broom. 
I was just looking for. 

1546
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:58,200
I was trying to get you on the 
phone. 

1547
01:31:58,760 --> 01:31:59,800
Sergeant Riley's looking for 
you. 

1548
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:01,560
I'll. 
Go find him and tell him I found

1549
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:01,920
you. 
All right. 

1550
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:07,360
Sergeant Broom's not here. 
This is Broom speaking. 

1551
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:11,320
Your buddy is looking for you. 
Here he is. 

1552
01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:14,720
Sergeant. 
I It's OK, Sir. 

1553
01:32:16,440 --> 01:32:17,000
Hello. 
Hello. 

1554
01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:18,920
Hello. 
Who is this? 

1555
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This is Officer Kopac speaking. 
Kopac. 

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This is brew. 
We have an assignment all the 

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pratfalls and what have you has 
got all the elements that you'd 

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think would would would make it 
sort of, you know, a box office 

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success and it just it it goes 
absolutely nowhere just when you

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don't remember a thing about it 
afterwards. 

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No, that's not going to happen 
with a Peter Sellers film. 

1562
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:39,480
Obviously he's never going to 
put a performance that that 

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01:32:39,480 --> 01:32:43,080
that's like that, but there's 
just something about that, the 

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circumstances, the timing of 
this, where it's the, the pink 

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pan from Spiticluso. 
They've been away long enough 

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that people miss them. 
And but there's not been a way 

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so long because we've, again, 
we've spoken before about how 

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there's a, there's a right time 
to, to have a renaissance of 

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interest in something. 
And then if you leave it too 

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long and then you get like, you 
know, when suddenly it's like 

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children need this year, they 
can say, hey, look, remember 

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that sitcoms on 40 years ago, 
We're going, hey, we're going to

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bring everybody back and 
everybody looks utterly ancient.

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And it's just drab. 
And so listen, what I mean, the,

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the the timing of this is just 
spot on. 

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Everything, all the pieces come 
together. 

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Christopher Plummer is superb in
it. 

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Also, Sellers was on his best 
behaviour because he needed a 

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hit, so yeah, that. 
Helped, Yeah. 

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01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:35,160
So yeah, no, it's right. 
And strangely enough, and 

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somebody will know better than I
would about this, but strangely 

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enough, this one, for whatever 
reason, was was frequently 

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missing from box sets of the 
years of the Pink Punk. 

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The Pink Punk boxes would have 
everything except return. 

1585
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It was. 
Because of the rights issues 

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01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:57,920
with Lew Grade, wasn't it? 
I I presume, I presume it was 

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going to be something along 
those lines, but it was, it was 

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01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,040
such an admission. 
It was like the you've got box 

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01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:04,200
set and it's got trail in it and
hasn't got return. 

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01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:08,080
What is this? 
But yeah, I think, I think 

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that's been ironed out now. 
And in the same way as you get 

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like if you if you get a package
of Bond films, no, it's also got

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like Casino Royale and, and 
never seen ever again sort of 

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01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:21,440
woven into them now, I think 
yeah, anytime you you would get 

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a full set now it's going to be 
there. 

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01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:24,760
So. 
Absolutely. 

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Yeah. 
So folks. 

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And Gary, thank you. 
Nay. 

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01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:32,520
Ball, thank you very much for 
for the invitation. 

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01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:35,960
It's lovely to be back and I 
presume you have all manner of 

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delights lined up. 
Yeah. 

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Well, next week, Next week it 
will be. 

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01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:44,440
No, I'm going to keep that 
secret because it's a bit of a 

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01:34:44,440 --> 01:34:47,680
surprise. 
Not that much of a surprise. 

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01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:54,280
You're discussing is why I'm on 
you and and how how sellers and 

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01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:58,320
Jack Lemmon got on or otherwise.
You should do that. 

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01:34:58,320 --> 01:34:59,440
You should do that in the 
future. 

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01:34:59,440 --> 01:35:01,000
In a few years time, you should 
do that as an April Fools 

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edition. 
Well, I'm this is going out on 

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April Fools Day this episode. 
Yes, yes, I'm going to I'm going

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to put it into ChatGPT and let 
that come up with the entire 

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script of a podcast. 
I'll just read it out. 

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I've actually, amongst all the 
things I've asked ChatGPT to 

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come up with the the plot and 
also the public's reaction to a 

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disgusting single comedy pilot 
starring Bob Grant from On the 

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Buses. 
And it's yeah, it really I was. 

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01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,680
I was so impressed with what it 
came back with relatively little

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01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:44,560
prompting for myself the the 
terms of phrase and the general 

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01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:47,840
public outrage was. 
Discussed. 

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01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:52,200
Yeah, one day the the technology
will will exist that I can 

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01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:55,000
actually make that program and 
put it out on Amazon Prime 

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01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,680
Video. 
Maybe, maybe it will sell 

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01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:02,080
alongside, side by side. 
Well, until then you've got 

1624
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bigger fish to fry because in a 
couple of weeks you will be 

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running the London Marathon. 
Oh God, I yes. 

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01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:11,120
So that isn't an April fuel, by 
the way, that that no, it's 

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absolutely legit. 
Yes. 

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01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:15,400
No. 
So all the very best with that, 

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01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:18,320
Gary. 
And and obviously, as I say, if 

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people want to show their 
support, the link will be in the

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show notes. 
And as I say, next week's 

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episode is an interesting curio.
So that's all I'm going to say 

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Until then. 
Thanks for listening and I will 

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see you next time.