1 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:12,300 What's going on? Films mr. 2 00:00:12,300 --> 00:00:19,600 Spencer Classics in my time I've sides and four years, bits of 3 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,600 them. We use the random like this in 4 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,100 the old days, but not four years. 5 00:00:26,100 --> 00:00:32,800 We haven't done now. It seems like old times once 6 00:00:32,800 --> 00:01:09,100 more. Hello and welcome to goon pod. 7 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,100 If you are listening last week you have heard Chris diamond. 8 00:01:12,100 --> 00:01:16,600 And I talking about the 1957 comedy film the smallest Show on 9 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,700 Earth, the film starring, Peter Sellers Margaret Rutherford, 10 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,700 build Travers, Virginia, McKenna, Bernhard, miles, and 11 00:01:24,700 --> 00:01:27,900 Francis de Wolfe and Leslie. Phillips of course mustn't. 12 00:01:27,900 --> 00:01:30,300 Forget Leslie. So this is the second part of 13 00:01:30,300 --> 00:01:34,300 that conversation where we knuckled out and we stop talking 14 00:01:34,300 --> 00:01:36,600 about heavens above and Cinemas in general. 15 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,200 Our memories of Cinema and when we were children and we start 16 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,100 talking in more detail about the actual film the smaller Show on 17 00:01:43,100 --> 00:01:46,800 Earth and it's a very enjoyable conversation. 18 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,900 I hope you enjoy it and let's drop into where we're talking 19 00:01:50,900 --> 00:01:55,500 about the conceit of a film within a film. 20 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:02,700 The films that are showing at the Bijou, you know, the grand. 21 00:02:02,700 --> 00:02:05,500 It certainly implied, that they are showing the latest Hollywood 22 00:02:05,500 --> 00:02:06,500 films. Yeah. 23 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,800 And that's why everybody's cure not. 24 00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:10,199 Yeah. The bees you are. 25 00:02:10,208 --> 00:02:13,700 They just have to show. What they've got is things that 26 00:02:13,700 --> 00:02:18,600 quell as as kick or is getting sent through that cheap? 27 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:25,700 Yeah yeah. And the With killer look killer 28 00:02:25,700 --> 00:02:30,100 Idols of Wyoming. The best way of Hell Valley, a 29 00:02:30,100 --> 00:02:32,300 devil. Raiders of parched Point. 30 00:02:32,700 --> 00:02:34,800 Yeah, big killer. Raiders of Wyoming. 31 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,500 I think I'm right. What is it? 32 00:02:36,500 --> 00:02:39,600 Mr. Of Hill Valley. Well, what are the to the second 33 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,600 desert film the first days of folks already with the, we are 34 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,700 all top tons of heating up, its effective with your see two 35 00:02:46,700 --> 00:02:49,600 characters clawing, their way through the desert. 36 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,700 And it's courses be short specifically for to be used as a 37 00:02:55,700 --> 00:02:58,500 film within a film. Yeah, it's not a real film. 38 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,100 Yeah. Because you would have to pay 39 00:03:00,100 --> 00:03:05,400 for that, and the two actors that are the what is K? 40 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,200 The courtly? Peter, Peter called pleats, are 41 00:03:09,208 --> 00:03:11,100 called police on. Yeah, who you, you would 42 00:03:11,100 --> 00:03:13,100 recognize from a million different things? 43 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,000 But the other one is coat model for beat. 44 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,800 See ya. And you only see a glimpse of a 45 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,300 bit is the mustache. Yes. 46 00:03:21,300 --> 00:03:24,100 As soon as I saw them a stash somewhere, other state model but 47 00:03:24,100 --> 00:03:27,300 completes it. Yes, I text book sellers. 48 00:03:27,300 --> 00:03:31,100 I got all the was dyed fact, it was a Hancock. 49 00:03:31,100 --> 00:03:35,000 Hang on Israel, mmm-hmm, but but I think just all part of that 50 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,200 code but I'll used to love it. When my little four beats it 51 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,200 turned up in films. What guy right here, that's the 52 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,700 thing because I'm watching the first film. 53 00:03:43,900 --> 00:03:46,400 Say that? They that they show at The 54 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,700 Bijou. Yes. 55 00:03:48,900 --> 00:03:52,000 What's it called? Killer Riders already come on. 56 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,400 Reg does away. And when I'm when I'm watching 57 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,000 this film I'm thinking is that an actual film? 58 00:03:58,500 --> 00:04:00,500 Is it or not? And I wasn't sure. 59 00:04:00,700 --> 00:04:05,600 And then the second film is the mystery of Hill Valley and again 60 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,600 right at the beginning. I'm thinking is that it's a 61 00:04:07,608 --> 00:04:09,100 natural feeling. They're not all about a fabric. 62 00:04:09,100 --> 00:04:10,300 Chair said. No, it's not. 63 00:04:10,300 --> 00:04:16,600 Then no and Peter courtly I was I was like it's that I can't be 64 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,800 pure Corporal but the peer help loot. 65 00:04:20,500 --> 00:04:22,500 He look to see me just entire life. 66 00:04:23,900 --> 00:04:26,000 You know, you look, there's sort of bold struggle here and all 67 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,500 that. So I was a bit put off by that 68 00:04:29,500 --> 00:04:33,000 but there's no doubt, there's no mistaking though, for pizza, can 69 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,300 I just mention Peter, Copley, or Cokely, Cokely Cokely opieop, 70 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,100 I'm re-watching, get back. Oh yeah, this is which is 71 00:04:43,500 --> 00:04:45,300 unexpected. Viewing is even better. 72 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,500 I've thought over here God, okay, that's a bit. 73 00:04:48,500 --> 00:04:49,500 The Beatles. There's not much. 74 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,000 Yes. And there somewhere and there's 75 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,900 a bit, but it is it two weeks in the life of the beetle, 76 00:04:56,900 --> 00:05:00,300 something like that. Not really a fly on the wall 77 00:05:00,300 --> 00:05:03,200 documentary because they've got the cameras more or less stuck 78 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,100 up there Hooters. But yeah, it's of, this is a 79 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,000 it's why you're in the yeah, everything was knows. 80 00:05:09,100 --> 00:05:13,900 Yeah. But at one point, Because it 81 00:05:13,900 --> 00:05:16,600 shows you, you know, they come in every morning for rehearsals 82 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,300 and yeah, it's also, it's all very yeah. 83 00:05:18,500 --> 00:05:21,800 Morning morning, morning morning on that sort of thing. 84 00:05:22,500 --> 00:05:23,300 What I like. Yeah. 85 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,500 And at one point you see George Harrison, he's talking to a 86 00:05:26,500 --> 00:05:29,300 think, it's the director, Michael Lindsay, hog and Ringo 87 00:05:30,300 --> 00:05:32,700 and George is talking about this television program that he'd 88 00:05:32,700 --> 00:05:37,000 seen the night before, right? And it was an episode was the 89 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,800 first episode of the new series of TV. 90 00:05:41,500 --> 00:05:44,500 He's called out of the unknown. All right. 91 00:05:44,500 --> 00:05:48,700 Yeah, and he was very taken by this George and he's quite 92 00:05:48,700 --> 00:05:52,900 animated telling the other two about, this is correct. 93 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,900 And then he talks about the program, that came after it was 94 00:05:57,900 --> 00:06:01,100 a bit. Crap was a bit crowded, but it 95 00:06:01,100 --> 00:06:05,500 did actually inspire him because they'd had some Waltz music in 96 00:06:05,500 --> 00:06:07,400 and it inspired him on that on that front. 97 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,700 But now he was very, very, very much. 98 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,900 He was sort of describing what happened in So far show. 99 00:06:13,900 --> 00:06:16,600 Right now, the reason I mention that is because Peter copeley 100 00:06:17,700 --> 00:06:24,200 starred in that episode that he's no beetles can, and yes, 101 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,500 but he already wants of David, some great stuff about it, but 102 00:06:27,500 --> 00:06:31,500 he really was Beatles Canon because if you scroll back a few 103 00:06:31,500 --> 00:06:36,900 years and I did 65 or and in the film help. 104 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,300 Well, okay, do you know that scene when John Lennon says 105 00:06:40,300 --> 00:06:47,200 Julia not getting anywhere? That was Peter copeley. 106 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,600 When whoa. He was trying to get a ring 107 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,700 offering goes finger and he couldn't do it. 108 00:06:51,700 --> 00:06:57,100 And he was driving for withering coming from then on, you know 109 00:06:57,100 --> 00:06:59,900 what, I scan Pizza copley's Copley covered. 110 00:07:00,100 --> 00:07:08,100 Hmm, his credits which are innumerable to see where he 111 00:07:08,100 --> 00:07:11,400 might have coincided more closely with say. 112 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:18,800 Taylor's, hmm, and it's almost It's always the thing in itself 113 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:23,400 that he didn't. I don't know how we Market. 114 00:07:24,900 --> 00:07:29,000 I don't know how he could have been active and very active in 115 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:34,100 film and television. From the war right up until 116 00:07:34,500 --> 00:07:41,600 1980. I know we always makes me wonder 117 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,500 if he had some sort of grudge against. 118 00:07:45,500 --> 00:07:49,400 I could you possibly know of better anyways and I but Mario 119 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,700 for beat see of course that people don't know this name. 120 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,700 You have certainly seen them. Yes there, I think Mario four 121 00:07:57,700 --> 00:08:01,800 pieces, finest ever. On film and television. 122 00:08:01,900 --> 00:08:07,300 It said, I think it said the Hancock episode we are is the 123 00:08:07,300 --> 00:08:08,400 big night when they're going out. 124 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:14,300 They go to the laundry. And set, it said that Tony but 125 00:08:14,300 --> 00:08:18,400 Hancock go to the laundry to wash the Sharks, which, mrs. 126 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,500 Cravat hasn't done for them now and they had cork is delighted 127 00:08:22,500 --> 00:08:26,000 by the Islamic geologic before and he seems so excited that 128 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,600 seen this watching going around and I character comes into the 129 00:08:29,608 --> 00:08:33,799 white suit and says, because I can I put my shot into your 130 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:38,500 machine and this module four beats in and he says, it's a 131 00:08:38,508 --> 00:08:39,500 joke. It was other words. 132 00:08:39,500 --> 00:08:41,600 What do you mean? Takes his jacket open things to 133 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,200 shut off the pizza, and the Machine and sits in his vest, 134 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,700 reading the paper. And this are these. 135 00:08:46,700 --> 00:08:51,300 So stretchy and friend that he had caught Johnson Dodgers said 136 00:08:51,300 --> 00:08:53,400 Judas is Jayne Mansfield's old man. 137 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:58,400 There we was that inspiration for Nick Cayman. 20, 30 years 138 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:06,400 later it was Mary for Britt. See by the way and I'll try to 139 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,800 remember I'm think I've got this right? 140 00:09:08,900 --> 00:09:11,100 You know, because Allah has used to film Everything yeah-hoo, 141 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:16,300 yeah-hoo movies coming out and the, where Zoo I'm sure that 142 00:09:16,300 --> 00:09:20,400 there's because Mary for Bootsie was a close friend and would 143 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,900 often be ready to sell his house. 144 00:09:21,900 --> 00:09:24,600 As would, you know? Yeah, agent Stark and Milligan I 145 00:09:24,608 --> 00:09:27,000 suppose. But I'm sure that there were a 146 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:32,100 series of sketches or short films that cell as filmed, which 147 00:09:32,100 --> 00:09:33,900 ostensibly starred marrow for breed. 148 00:09:33,900 --> 00:09:35,300 See if you know what I mean. That's right. 149 00:09:35,300 --> 00:09:36,700 It's a, that's right. Yeah. 150 00:09:36,900 --> 00:09:39,200 Yeah. But I mean he was technically, 151 00:09:39,500 --> 00:09:41,500 he's described. Often as you described as a 152 00:09:41,500 --> 00:09:43,700 photographer I don't know what I mean. 153 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:48,200 I've no idea what capacity is he was a, you know, a professional 154 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,800 photographer. It must have done something. 155 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:53,200 He had 11 rather than just hang around Sailors, ankle, lovely 156 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:58,400 babineaux but but he's described the sort of faster than 157 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,400 necessarily as a photographer. And so maybe that's how he came 158 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,700 into, the pits always is. Anyway, the point is, it's just 159 00:10:03,700 --> 00:10:06,300 always nice, would people like that to not with this? 160 00:10:06,300 --> 00:10:08,200 Is he in heavens above the next? I didn't notice him. 161 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,200 Oh, I don't know. I'm sure he must have been know 162 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,600 and I'm sure he has actually. I got you stuck. 163 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:19,100 It actually has lots of about. You see everybody's inhabitable, 164 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,100 join hexen isn't heavens above the character, she's playing in 165 00:10:23,100 --> 00:10:25,800 heavens above, I like to think that the lady. 166 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,100 So I like to think that the, the elderly lady that she played in 167 00:10:29,100 --> 00:10:33,700 clockwise it's 20 years later was the same character. 168 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:37,900 Better show officially glasses, join the hexan often point. 169 00:10:37,900 --> 00:10:39,800 That was the cat. After that, she played. 170 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,400 Yeah, yeah, that's sort of I, you know, sort of Dottie old 171 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:49,700 woman or or at least are sort of Scotty, can wait another, 172 00:10:49,700 --> 00:10:54,100 another exceptional, performance of Falls and said they carry on 173 00:10:54,100 --> 00:10:57,400 girls now it's because she's wonderful. 174 00:10:57,900 --> 00:11:00,600 She's one of these says that, you know, the family, they want 175 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,500 another one, being the brilliant held the body. 176 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:10,800 You're just funny, just sitting in Repose with pointy glasses 177 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:17,300 for but it'll be the small, the sure there's actually different 178 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:20,100 in that respect because it doesn't have the sort of 179 00:11:20,100 --> 00:11:24,400 constellation of are of character actors in it now. 180 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,000 Doesn't, it has the inevitable Stringer Davis, of course. 181 00:11:28,900 --> 00:11:32,100 Because that was a contractual requirement of my brothers. 182 00:11:32,300 --> 00:11:34,300 Nope. Because for the uninitiated 183 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,000 Stringer. Davis was my girlfriend's 184 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,600 husband. He pleased, unless he plays one 185 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,800 of the other, the only other really talking a partner of 186 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:51,100 Francis, the wolf, and the in the cinema and he was 187 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,000 extraordinary. But still at the verses that he 188 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,800 had actually been an actor. For a long time when you can 189 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,800 make Margaret Rutherford because he's not a good actor. 190 00:12:00,700 --> 00:12:05,300 S Eve is he's okay, but he managed to have survived four 191 00:12:05,300 --> 00:12:08,100 years. Presumably and yeah, break, I 192 00:12:08,100 --> 00:12:10,600 don't think things like that. I don't think I've ever seen him 193 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,100 on screen for more than two or three minutes at a time. 194 00:12:13,100 --> 00:12:15,200 So I can't really judge if he's a good actor or not. 195 00:12:15,300 --> 00:12:17,500 If you know what I mean, the longest he ever appears in any 196 00:12:17,500 --> 00:12:20,100 figures and the Marple Miss Marple films. 197 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:24,600 At the MGM is Marble Falls, because he sort of partner golf 198 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,000 with You know, he's mr. Stringer who helps and he's 199 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,500 done, that probably the most of innocent, but in other respects, 200 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:34,600 he's always just a big part because my granola for just 201 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,600 wanted a husband to be the other were very close. 202 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,000 Yeah, which is fine, you know, and it doesn't do any harm. 203 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:47,800 The only other The other couple in that regard, I think which 204 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:53,800 was not so successful. Was Arthur wardens wife, mmm, 205 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:59,500 because Arthur law as wife apparently was a terrible hard 206 00:12:59,500 --> 00:13:04,400 enough for women. Who made his life a Misery by 207 00:13:04,900 --> 00:13:10,200 many accounts and insisted that she be in everything that he was 208 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,500 in. The probably didn't know that 209 00:13:14,500 --> 00:13:16,600 she was so bad that nobody wanted to cast on. 210 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,300 And therefore, often will burst out in quite a lot of work. 211 00:13:21,500 --> 00:13:24,700 You're the only time you really notice of she please say, she 212 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,700 appears every now and again, in Dad's Army as Godfrey, sister 213 00:13:28,700 --> 00:13:30,600 Dory. All right. 214 00:13:31,100 --> 00:13:32,200 You know, Godfrey's always ready? 215 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:33,900 Always a fairly to my sister Dolly. 216 00:13:33,900 --> 00:13:39,000 Yes, and very occasionally she appears That's off the lawyer's 217 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,500 wife. Be not going to tell me she 218 00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:45,500 appears in. Oh, lucky man, or if it's he 219 00:13:45,500 --> 00:13:49,200 said that she's there somewhere, but with the most, the most 220 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:57,700 egregious thing about it was Late and later years, and has 221 00:13:57,700 --> 00:14:00,500 Layton and his later years on the mostly two years. 222 00:14:02,500 --> 00:14:06,200 There was a lot of interest and I'm going to Hollywood because 223 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:11,700 they like people, like, Leo, mckern James, Mason people like 224 00:14:11,700 --> 00:14:14,000 that, hey, for these. So, you know, for bad character 225 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:19,000 parts and Arthur Lowe and his wife. 226 00:14:19,100 --> 00:14:22,000 But he didn't want his wife. So he missed out on most of 227 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,600 them. So, his career would have been 228 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:30,800 Much more International. international law, if it hadn't 229 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:35,800 been for his awful wife and the worst example of I understand as 230 00:14:37,500 --> 00:14:40,100 Good water bait. You went to remake having could 231 00:14:40,100 --> 00:14:43,600 wait. Yeah, which I don't know if 232 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,300 you've seen it snow, it's just good fun, it's good film. 233 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,000 You know, he plays water BTW PLS the part of you know he's dead 234 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,600 and he's you know whether he comes back as somebody else and 235 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,400 has to convince Jack Warden. But you guys actually who he is, 236 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,700 and make things, right? And so forth. 237 00:15:00,100 --> 00:15:06,400 Hmm, I then the original version, I think we should 238 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,600 Claude Rains, We depart. Right. 239 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:12,600 But in the remake of the 70s remake, which by the way, was 240 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:18,200 nominated for best picture. So, I believe, yeah, Warren 241 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,000 Beatty wanted ask the Lord to tell you the part of the, you 242 00:15:22,008 --> 00:15:28,300 know, the sort of spectral guidance part and he wanted to 243 00:15:28,300 --> 00:15:30,300 play it but they wouldn't cast his wife. 244 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:37,200 So she told him to turn it down and James base and pleaded jeez. 245 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,500 That's a donor. Yeah. 246 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,700 Imagine we are for watching the Oscars. 247 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:48,100 I can. Yes, thanks. 248 00:15:48,100 --> 00:15:55,100 Love the cork was ready do in any way back to the smaller 249 00:15:55,100 --> 00:15:55,900 showing up. Hmm. 250 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,900 Margaret Rutherford. Who said another amazing 251 00:16:01,900 --> 00:16:05,400 performance is fantastic. She was an exceptional. 252 00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:12,500 Character. Yeah. here's a trivia question 253 00:16:12,500 --> 00:16:19,400 for you and for the listeners, right and mmm, or is the like 254 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,300 Between Margaret Rutherford. Western Illinois. 255 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,500 I'll tell you after the show and people can write anything. 256 00:16:31,900 --> 00:16:34,400 Just give me a moment to try and think if I know the answer or 257 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:39,200 could guess that that is. It's pretty obscure, but it's 258 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,500 there. Okay. 259 00:16:41,700 --> 00:16:43,300 All right. You tell me after tell me after 260 00:16:43,300 --> 00:16:48,000 blisters are you? So you have to write and I love 261 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,500 the fact that there's this tension between not sexual 262 00:16:50,500 --> 00:16:52,500 tension. I hated web at tension between 263 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,800 her and quill and Both of them in. 264 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,900 Yeah, over them independently, go to Bill. 265 00:16:59,900 --> 00:17:04,599 McKenna and say, can you do something about the other one? 266 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,800 And he says sacking. The person is a better pulled 267 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,900 apart, just say something to say, to be rude to them. 268 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:15,800 Yeah, just do. It's really interesting because 269 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,800 it's sort of a riff. I think it's a sort of reference 270 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:26,500 to her age in a way, and they are background, which is See 271 00:17:26,500 --> 00:17:30,100 something good to the because, obviously, I can't ya because 272 00:17:30,100 --> 00:17:31,700 that's not the sort of thing I would do. 273 00:17:32,300 --> 00:17:35,000 You could do it. You look Carmen. 274 00:17:37,500 --> 00:17:40,400 Oh, just before you go, I think I ought to tell you mr. 275 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,100 Specter, that I need something is done about mr. 276 00:17:43,100 --> 00:17:45,500 Quill. I am not prepared to continue in 277 00:17:45,500 --> 00:17:49,200 my present position. Oh, I can no longer tolerate is 278 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,800 insulting and unseemly Behavior. Well, what are you? 279 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,100 Suggesting mrs. Physically that I should give 280 00:17:55,100 --> 00:18:00,500 him the Sach Sach. This stack will sick, mr. 281 00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:03,300 Quill. I'm afraid that would be quite 282 00:18:03,300 --> 00:18:06,200 out of the question on account of the projection equipment you 283 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,100 know nobody else could possibly understand it. 284 00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:13,200 In fact in 1937 when mr. Quill had to go and have his 285 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,100 appendix out and the late mr. Spencer called in another 286 00:18:16,100 --> 00:18:20,200 projection is to take over. He was only three days before he 287 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,500 had to have his appendix out. Oh no, no, no. 288 00:18:23,500 --> 00:18:25,800 I merely wondered whether you would say something. 289 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,900 Rude. Or rather, unpleasant Miss 290 00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:32,600 price. What do you suggest I do Sakura. 291 00:18:32,900 --> 00:18:36,600 Take, make it rich. A Cali boy. 292 00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:39,200 Don't think you probably appreciate the position. 293 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,100 Mr. Spencer, which is exactly have been here since the silent 294 00:18:43,100 --> 00:18:45,300 days. She used to play the piano, 295 00:18:45,700 --> 00:18:48,600 she's the only one that knows how this place runs. 296 00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:52,700 Certain make, if it's a totally she'll be willing to stay cold 297 00:18:52,700 --> 00:18:55,400 tone next. See. 298 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,200 What you really mean is you just want me to say something rude 299 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,100 and unpleasant to her. Yeah. 300 00:19:07,700 --> 00:19:12,300 And of course the lovely thing is when they come cleaning, the 301 00:19:12,308 --> 00:19:14,800 tell them, you know, they tell me what the plan is but they're 302 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:15,900 good. You look at the cinema. 303 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:21,900 The independently volunteer mistress, mrs. 304 00:19:21,900 --> 00:19:27,300 Exactly. Well, it's a sort of a quote 305 00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:29,200 says you gave up drinking for the duration. 306 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,900 Yes. And then mrs. 307 00:19:30,900 --> 00:19:34,700 For Zachary is it's just a later brother and then everybody's 308 00:19:34,700 --> 00:19:38,900 Pals, yeah, because somebody's sort of given way and know 309 00:19:38,900 --> 00:19:43,800 they're all a team and it is sort of it's the if I can make 310 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:50,400 the single most tenuous. The partisan in the history of 311 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:55,800 broadcast, it's a bit late. This the US and Annapolis scene 312 00:19:55,800 --> 00:20:02,200 in Jaws. We have buses for exactly in 313 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,400 quill and everybody, they all become a team from that point. 314 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,800 Jesus. You see I'm telling you. 315 00:20:11,500 --> 00:20:16,100 This is physically a sequel. It's exactly the same as Quint 316 00:20:16,100 --> 00:20:21,900 and Hooper steel-belted. Just fucking kill. 317 00:20:21,900 --> 00:20:25,000 The shadow is a few. No, no clearly not. 318 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,700 But anyway, the Friendship, the friendship or the laying aside 319 00:20:29,700 --> 00:20:35,400 of tensions is best exemplified by the the scene where they're 320 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,800 all watching a silent film. When the cinema is closed. 321 00:20:39,500 --> 00:20:41,500 Yes, it's a beautiful scene. I mean, it's a genuinely 322 00:20:41,500 --> 00:20:45,600 beautiful scene and it's very interesting as well, that it was 323 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,600 included for a couple of reasons. 324 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:53,500 One is it must have cost them money because it's the entrance. 325 00:20:53,500 --> 00:20:56,200 We have the they do use of your film. 326 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,600 They're Comin through the Rye. Hey which the bus departure 327 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:06,700 license? You know, so they've clearly 328 00:21:06,700 --> 00:21:10,600 decided that it's important But it's storytelling terms. 329 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,400 It's not. It's really you could do with 330 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,700 that you know you could see how you could do without it because 331 00:21:15,700 --> 00:21:19,600 we've already established that they're dedicated to the cinema 332 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,000 and that they are wedded to it and they wanted to succeed and 333 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,300 they're upset that it's been closed and no they're all part 334 00:21:25,300 --> 00:21:26,800 of a team of the going to move on, you know. 335 00:21:26,900 --> 00:21:28,600 Yeah. You could see why you could do 336 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,600 without it and the fact that they've decided to include her 337 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,400 and spend money on it, which they are formed, you would say 338 00:21:34,500 --> 00:21:38,600 you would feel, they would be seen to the editing process were 339 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:44,200 not. Lose that I think is just an 340 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,600 interesting. Just an interesting little 341 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,800 factoid about it and they watch it. 342 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,000 And as you see, this is for Zach. 343 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:58,400 Oh, he's playing the piano to accompany it which for the the 344 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,500 jr. Audience used to happen. 345 00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:03,100 So much for working with the bleed and up, somebody would be 346 00:22:03,100 --> 00:22:06,600 alive being this with a company. Yeah, that says she's that girl. 347 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,800 She's the pit pianist, doesn't she as well as being cashier? 348 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,100 And bookkeeper. Yeah, mmm. 349 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,800 A job that was a child that was done by many. 350 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,700 Actually a bunch of his father, but that played movie Idol for 351 00:22:19,700 --> 00:22:20,600 silent server. Yeah. 352 00:22:20,700 --> 00:22:26,100 Okay. And all Thomas setting and the 353 00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:31,300 capture our wonderful show. I wonder how much footage they 354 00:22:31,300 --> 00:22:34,500 went through to get it because all table is set in the Stalls. 355 00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:38,400 Holding the cat and the cat is stealing up. 356 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:44,100 But Tom It's a Swedish looking directly out of another sort of 357 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,300 head back. Sort of comfortable. 358 00:22:46,900 --> 00:22:50,600 You know it's almost as if the cat is related to that. 359 00:22:50,900 --> 00:22:55,800 Everything is back to normal and then of course you copped to the 360 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:02,100 most important part over which is Bell and makeda coming to the 361 00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:06,100 projection booth and quail, was watching it with tears in his 362 00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:10,100 eyes. And says you know it's just like 363 00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:14,800 which feels like all times and I suppose the the point over is it 364 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:21,000 gives an emotional heart. To the relationship for Bill 365 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:26,900 Travers of Virginia McKenna. The totality of the Kingdom has 366 00:23:27,500 --> 00:23:30,500 the building, but also the history and the people in it. 367 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,600 So that, you know, it's not know something that can be easily 368 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,500 shoved off for some money that has to be a positive outcome. 369 00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:41,000 No, yes, because this is no, you get no. 370 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,700 You at least, as demonstrated. It's not just because they've 371 00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:48,900 got nowhere else to go. It really matters and it's a 372 00:23:48,908 --> 00:23:51,900 lovely scene. This is beautiful played and 373 00:23:51,900 --> 00:23:58,500 there's a lovely choice of film as well because of course, it's 374 00:23:58,500 --> 00:24:04,500 a man saying goodbye to a woman and then he disappears and you 375 00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:11,400 know you know some about parting and logging it's are It's very, 376 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,100 it's very suitable and the cost of the actress in that film. 377 00:24:15,900 --> 00:24:18,900 Albert Ayler, yeah. She turns up in the audience and 378 00:24:18,900 --> 00:24:21,000 creditors, she's she's uncredited. 379 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:26,400 The audience, which is a lovely little touch touch. 380 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:32,500 I love as well. Okay, I love as well. 381 00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:35,400 Never mind that a nice little to the character touchant, that 382 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:40,400 lovely little sort of sweet little moment is when the, the, 383 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:46,900 the Just showing where wheels off the booze, any makes one 384 00:24:46,900 --> 00:24:51,100 mistake and he goes down and he's delighted by the fact that 385 00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:53,700 he leaves. He got his coat and hat and coat 386 00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:56,000 on and he leaves us in a man, you see him just do a little 387 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,400 skip. It was a little Skip and he 388 00:24:58,900 --> 00:25:01,500 flaps his arms against this a yeah. 389 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:05,200 It's a beautiful moment. Good night, mr. 390 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:18,900 Spencer Good night. 391 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,500 Are you wondering these circumstances when you hear 392 00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:36,500 directors, even people that Kubrick could talk about? 393 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,400 Again, how cell is written? How about apart? 394 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:48,100 You wonder, how much that being Sailors as decided to do that? 395 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,000 You know? Are I mean, I don't know whether 396 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,100 there's obviously I do the weather, descriptor daughter was 397 00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:59,500 Buzz, aldrin's idea but when you I'm Eagle Creek is a good 398 00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:01,500 example. For example, when he was making 399 00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:10,400 a Lolita, He eludes a seller's to improvise, hmm, and he 400 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,300 explained later that, you know, he would do what we didn't find 401 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,200 Isis improvising to rehearsals to try and get an idea for the 402 00:26:18,208 --> 00:26:22,000 character, but not during performance because they weren't 403 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,900 very good at mm-hmm. But he felt itself was just 404 00:26:24,900 --> 00:26:27,600 inhabited. The parts of Philly actually 405 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:28,900 points. Inhabited be you know what? 406 00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:31,400 It was so invested and loved it so much. 407 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,100 Yes, that whatever he said. Ed just felt like it was the 408 00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:39,300 character seeing it and then you just been nice to know. 409 00:26:39,900 --> 00:26:43,400 I'll just believe it anyway. There was sellers to disable 410 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,300 equal should do that because he was just being quill. 411 00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:49,500 At that particular moment, just told me walking up this year. 412 00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:51,700 Yeah, I'd like to think so, I don't think so. 413 00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:56,300 Do you want to take a moment to talk about Francis de Wolfe? 414 00:26:57,300 --> 00:27:02,200 Yeah, well, yeah. I want very, he's, he's such a 415 00:27:02,300 --> 00:27:05,700 such a strange character friends that they will, and I do mean 416 00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:08,000 that strange character, you know what himself? 417 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,600 But It's quick to Tamika think of a Time. 418 00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:22,400 When? somes, or You know, tally of 419 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:27,600 whatever had such room. So many different types of 420 00:27:27,608 --> 00:27:30,600 characters. You know, and people like 421 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,900 Francis world could be completely healthy, 11, you 422 00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:35,700 know, clearing and lots of different things. 423 00:27:37,900 --> 00:27:42,300 And I suppose I'm comparing it. You know, I did a foolish way as 424 00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:45,200 well. I'm a bully You know, big of a 425 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,000 bit, a lots of actors know, the very I think they're very much 426 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,300 of a stamp, you know, the weirdly athletic. 427 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,700 Yeah. And the take to be take to be 428 00:27:55,700 --> 00:28:00,100 young or younger and younger. No everybody obviously been a 429 00:28:00,108 --> 00:28:03,200 big stars who are old and all that stuff and we're not talking 430 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,100 about styles. And there just seems to be an 431 00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:09,300 endless procession of these sort of cut young. 432 00:28:09,300 --> 00:28:12,600 Guys are beautiful young women who have here in everything. 433 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,000 I'm sure, you know, I'm not the kind what they can do, some are 434 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,200 good and some are bad, just the same of every each. 435 00:28:20,300 --> 00:28:22,700 Hmm. But that just seemed at the time 436 00:28:22,700 --> 00:28:26,400 in the 50s, the 60s and the 70s. But just seemed to be so much 437 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,200 room for so many weird. The different desperate looking 438 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:35,800 characters, you know, Hey will you could have science useful 439 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,600 for which this enormous enormous Francis? 440 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,900 Yeah, with a huge bushy be of that. 441 00:28:41,900 --> 00:28:44,600 I broke looking at early but Brian blessed. 442 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,200 Yeah. No absolutely just sort of cross 443 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:52,700 between Brian blessed and they James Robertson just yes, yes. 444 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,500 You know that's sort of big Bluff. 445 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,900 Hmm kind of character and he appears and seems in things like 446 00:28:58,900 --> 00:29:00,500 sitcoms right up until the seventies. 447 00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:04,000 Well, I know I noticed that it looked at his filmography 448 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,100 because I'm aware of him mainly from The Hound of the 449 00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:12,600 Baskervilles film carry on Cleo. Yeah triple cross which is a 450 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,600 film I very much enjoy. And but I didn't know him from 451 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,600 much else, to be honest, you but it was one of those faces that 452 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:27,500 you didn't you recognize, but he appeared as the tutor to Archie 453 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,900 in an ITV hour-long, special of educating Archie. 454 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,300 Oh wow. Is that is that that is that 455 00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:42,400 that that one I've never seen it with the That's really creepy 456 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,500 footage, oh, come on, I don't know of a live action of a 457 00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:50,300 live-action Archie. This is from, you know, I've 458 00:29:50,300 --> 00:29:52,400 never seen it, you know. So like an improv, you're not 459 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,700 thinking of magic with Antony Hopkins. 460 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,100 No, no, I honestly, it is as creepy, right? 461 00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:01,200 So, like you did your well. You know what? 462 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,700 You know what you can do, ya? See, I brought my brother. 463 00:30:05,900 --> 00:30:09,900 A broth was really a, no technical sense of 464 00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:14,900 ventriloquism. Yeah, he holds the offered, he 465 00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:18,200 actually looked like Sandy Powell. 466 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:26,700 Doing this ventriloquist it. Hey, And obviously massively 467 00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:30,500 successful on radio and you know we've got him to thank for 468 00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:35,400 everybody from you know how gx-24 the helicopter back by 469 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,700 Cliff my favorite. Sorry to leave my favorite Sandy 470 00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:44,500 Powell, ventriloquist date, I'm not here to four years, but he's 471 00:30:44,500 --> 00:30:47,600 got the puppet. He's got the dummy head, he and 472 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,500 it is said he pounces to the derby is, where do you come from 473 00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:57,300 the puppet goes? How harsh I feel inside your 474 00:30:57,308 --> 00:31:00,800 cells. Is I was trying to say, 475 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,900 Czechoslovakia, I should have said leads. 476 00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:10,800 It's such a great escapes that way. 477 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:16,900 Stephen the way three sets of those as well by little my and 478 00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:20,400 when they Margaret Powell comes on, hmm. 479 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,300 And he says, he says something, he says something like I 480 00:31:23,308 --> 00:31:27,100 captured a struggle. And what is it? 481 00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:30,000 She says that all. Yes, I'm a vegetarian too. 482 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:38,800 And he says what she said? Well, that's my bleep. 483 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:47,500 Was he says, but then when he argues, he puts his hand right 484 00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:50,800 through the W is point and hold in the head in the don't 485 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,300 realize, it's such a great sketch. 486 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:59,000 Yeah, well, my little man. Are you going to sing for the 487 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,600 ladies and gentlemen? Anything Vibe, Eclipse. 488 00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:06,900 Oh, see anything by request as long as I know with you 489 00:32:06,900 --> 00:32:11,000 thinking? What are you thinking something? 490 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,100 For me for you certainly to marry puppy. 491 00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:20,900 Yes, you deserve supercalifragilistic a leader. 492 00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:25,600 Using he finds out anyway. Get no, no. 493 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,600 So educate Archer, the like one. So I've only ever seen this in 494 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:36,300 clip form, which is sort of a used to illustrate like a bad. 495 00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:39,500 It was can't even remember what Clutch it was said. 496 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:45,800 But it's basically It looks like a person or look at the dummy, 497 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,000 sitting at a chair. There's got our cheese head, but 498 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,800 like, real, somebody's put that arms through and it's getting 499 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:57,200 real arms and the hands are moving and it is so freakish. 500 00:32:58,300 --> 00:33:01,000 Dear wonder, I wonder if that's where that came from right. 501 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,800 And folks we were talking about that anyway. 502 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,400 We talked about the Telly goons the other day. 503 00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:08,500 Yeah, which I'm sure you're familiar with. 504 00:33:08,900 --> 00:33:09,500 Yep. Yeah. 505 00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:11,800 I'm a weight of the rod with it whenever they were never there. 506 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,200 Seen a close-up. See needed. 507 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,900 Have someone shuffling cards? It's actually proper human 508 00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:18,600 errors. Obviously, we which really takes 509 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:25,200 you out of the drama, you have to drop off because up to that 510 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,700 point, the verisimilitude had been a staggering. 511 00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:31,100 Yeah. But yeah. 512 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,300 So desperate as much as even in the 70s, don't make a you two 513 00:33:37,300 --> 00:33:40,400 credits. He was in off the top of my head 514 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,800 where I did. I sewed of the totally forgotten 515 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,200 but excellent series, the rivals of Sherlock Holmes. 516 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,700 Yes, I've seen that yet but I will it's the episode about the 517 00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:54,300 anonymous letters with you. Please. 518 00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:59,700 The head of the fry cook theater. 519 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,200 And on the other hand, he pleased our Supermarket with her 520 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,300 in an episode of the recent terrorist Jesus. 521 00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:11,800 Oh I don't know. I would hear the water gets near 522 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,800 a satirist. I'm sure glad. 523 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:18,300 When in his den xiao8 such a great scenes. 524 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,800 I love that show. Yeah, the convention I do Glad 525 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,800 with especially is fantastic and it is delivery as extraordinary. 526 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,600 There's a brilliant. That's a brilliant. 527 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,100 But we have you as one of these things where there are very 528 00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:39,699 seventies Trope. If we're the fake. 529 00:34:39,699 --> 00:34:41,500 Is what the pills? Hmm. 530 00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:44,500 So somebody they fight somebody thinks of these wonderful tools 531 00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:45,400 that actually. Yeah. 532 00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:47,800 So that they stood up, you know. Yeah happens a lot. 533 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,300 Nearly a DUI or certainly the people that could go look at 534 00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:55,199 that. Supposedly some of these one, 535 00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:58,500 you know some of these 12 pills. I'll 150,000 pounds of live 536 00:34:58,500 --> 00:35:01,400 Round Here. So I wonder who that could be or 537 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,500 that's damaged having all that money and the daughter goes 538 00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:08,300 killed and you're glad would stand walks and and he's smoking 539 00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:13,800 a cigar. And he says, I need to use your 540 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,400 phone. I need to use your phone later. 541 00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:19,100 It's a very private call for Choice. 542 00:35:20,700 --> 00:35:25,700 It's a very important call. And he said, well, how long have 543 00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:29,200 you been smoking cigars? He said, I smoked my first cigar 544 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,900 in 18:18. This is my second. 545 00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:39,500 This is my say, anyway, prices go, t part. 546 00:35:39,500 --> 00:35:43,300 Is the trying silver. Tacos & Francis group is still 547 00:35:43,300 --> 00:35:46,500 there and it's hilarious help. Hold, the vehicle goes at. 548 00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:50,100 The she goes, the toilet says, hobbies and failings and she 549 00:35:50,100 --> 00:35:53,600 goes at the wrong way, and she comes running out God. 550 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,300 Whoa! Whoa! 551 00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:55,900 Big fella and I comes from system. 552 00:35:55,900 --> 00:36:02,600 Okay, all you could grow, do you light One day, one day, I'm 553 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,100 gonna start a Hilda, Baker podcast. 554 00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:09,400 I think, oh, well, I'll be there for that many women anyway. 555 00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:13,600 But, I mean, to be honest, as we see the we're seeing earlier 556 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,500 about some, for a film of this type, the smaller shorter ice 557 00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:23,900 that has a very limited cast, you know what, in principle 558 00:36:23,900 --> 00:36:27,100 rules and useful rules. Yeah, because the really only is 559 00:36:27,107 --> 00:36:31,900 that they Grant those standard Davison and They tried to Wolf 560 00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:36,400 those bilboquet know. Yep, Rutherford my was a 561 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,200 sailor's. There's a few people wrote this. 562 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,600 This problem, Carter. The solicitor played by Leslie 563 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,300 Phillips. Of course, I'd like the Philips. 564 00:36:43,300 --> 00:36:45,200 Yeah. But for a film of this type at 565 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,900 that time, a severely limited current is it is normally, there 566 00:36:48,900 --> 00:36:51,200 would be dozens of people. Hmm. 567 00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:54,200 You know what can we ride, as we see said James appears for like 568 00:36:54,700 --> 00:36:59,700 it gets very high bail and he does Like very good agent for 569 00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:01,400 what is good. What is given to do? 570 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,400 Yeah, it's agent as imagine probably late Lou, you know? 571 00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:14,900 Yeah, I've got a lovely boy for you but you're the one dark 572 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,700 moment of fast. Yeah, that's the meanest. 573 00:37:18,900 --> 00:37:22,300 It's because Hardcastle desperate and he's told that it 574 00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:25,700 was desperate to shut down the Bijou Ascend. 575 00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:28,300 Yeah. And and he's told that that 576 00:37:28,300 --> 00:37:30,900 quill is signed the pledge. Yep. 577 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,800 So he comes up with this idea to sabotage the next film showing. 578 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,600 He sends a bottle of whiskey to quill inside. 579 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,100 A was a bunch of film reels. A box of usual. 580 00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:43,100 Yeah. And then this is the thing. 581 00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:45,600 I wrote this down here, so obviously they have cranked up 582 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,000 the heating again. Yeah, and quills. 583 00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:52,600 He's sweating cops. Yeah and he keeps staring 584 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,800 longingly at this bottle of whiskey in the first aid box. 585 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,600 Yeah. But whiskey wouldn't quench your 586 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,200 first. Would it be weird if your would 587 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:07,100 have maybe an apology or slightly below as well as no 588 00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:09,900 rubbish? I'm not aware. 589 00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:11,700 Is that, is that proper good stuff? 590 00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:14,100 Is it? Well it's I mean, this is, you 591 00:38:14,107 --> 00:38:15,800 know, they'd stop Rock. God. 592 00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:18,000 Okay, I just sold, sold should not. 593 00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:21,200 Meet up, which is weird. Do you think it would just be 594 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,100 like, Mike laverty's whiskey or something? 595 00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:25,800 Yeah. But, no, no, the use of actual 596 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,300 proper, a proper brand. And what are the facts just for 597 00:38:29,300 --> 00:38:31,300 about a brand that we have this for the audience to go? 598 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,400 Look and it's good, you know, he's nobody turn down a drink a 599 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,400 lot. No. 600 00:38:37,300 --> 00:38:41,300 But to be fair, that is one of of this dastardly deed when all 601 00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:47,100 told bonds down the gravel and Fork. 602 00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:49,000 You know what? The possible loss of Lucky 603 00:38:51,700 --> 00:38:55,900 couldn't receive the discrete Veil over her, but I can't get 604 00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:59,000 it because because because we're right at the end of the film 605 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,000 where near the end of the film and jeans up discovered, she's 606 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,900 pregnant. Very discreetly on screen is 607 00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:08,900 told that she's pregnant. Isn't as is Marlene said James's 608 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,600 daughter. Yeah, as is the cat has. 609 00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:12,800 Yeah. And there's that, there's a 610 00:39:12,808 --> 00:39:14,800 suggestion. So, James is dropping, heavy 611 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,800 hints that he thinks that build the eggs billionaires. 612 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,600 I thought. Yeah, never, they never gets 613 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,000 resolved, but, but they've decided that they're going to 614 00:39:23,008 --> 00:39:24,400 cut the losses because she's pregnant. 615 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,100 They're going to take the 750 quid that that hard cognac 616 00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:31,600 offered for The Bijou and and Matt sort of laughingly says 617 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,600 that there's been times that he's wanted to burn the ground 618 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,300 down. An old table. 619 00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:41,200 He takes this literally, he's sitting in the basement. 620 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:47,100 Next to all the fuel oil is a very British thing, fuel oil and 621 00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:50,100 thanks and is going to GCC the struggle in his face. 622 00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:52,200 Like, well at me, well, I don't know, fuck it. 623 00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:55,300 So Preparatory this right? Yeah, so, well, yes, I will. 624 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,400 I did the weaker of the Judah, the day. 625 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,700 He thinks the alarms going off, Bill McKay know, and he puts all 626 00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:07,900 somehow he hasn't been walking by the enormous Cinema about 100 627 00:40:07,900 --> 00:40:12,000 yards of wicked. It's a bandhan down overnight 628 00:40:13,300 --> 00:40:18,200 and he gets up in the morning to the Grand a party. and then 629 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:20,500 which of course means that Hardcastle, they do only do you 630 00:40:20,508 --> 00:40:24,300 have all that the only cinnamon tone And they had cash on me to 631 00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:27,800 keep his pictures corn, or whatever he needs to do. 632 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:34,600 So they come in by the, by Drew for 10 grand, two and a half 633 00:40:34,900 --> 00:40:38,700 days money. Yeah, huge amount of money and 634 00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:42,900 then the nomic it up be clear off, but they give they give a 635 00:40:42,900 --> 00:40:47,000 cut to the the three, the they get a bomb, but they also insist 636 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,800 that they must be kept on the jobs. 637 00:40:48,900 --> 00:40:52,300 Hmm, everybody's happy. Hmm. 638 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:57,600 I know the last second as the waved off all Tom says to do 639 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,700 McKenna. I like you mr. 640 00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:05,000 Spencer and I like your missus it was only way working. 641 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:11,500 Yes I did. They have a moment of crisis 642 00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:13,200 with the fact that we were just something better than they don't 643 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,200 do anywhere else. Yeah, they send them about the 644 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,900 cinema burning down. Is what you would affect your 645 00:41:19,900 --> 00:41:24,300 college screenwriting tails. It's time to finish that 646 00:41:24,300 --> 00:41:29,700 section, right? Well, I couldn't reconcile this 647 00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:33,800 end all because because and I didn't mind the ending. 648 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,600 Don't get me wrong. It's got a neat, little endosome 649 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,400 at. I'll give them their proper 650 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:38,900 names. Matthew. 651 00:41:38,900 --> 00:41:41,300 This is Matt, he wasn't at Matthew in gene on the train. 652 00:41:41,900 --> 00:41:46,700 So they met Matt works out that Tom's words Mentor suggested 653 00:41:46,700 --> 00:41:50,300 that he was the are yes and they and they both sort of 654 00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:55,400 experience. Cam spine of guilt guilt and the 655 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,100 pangs of conscience. And yeah, they debate whether 656 00:41:58,100 --> 00:42:01,800 they should act on it and should the first of all, they say, 657 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,400 should we go back and confront him? 658 00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:04,800 Yep. No no. 659 00:42:04,900 --> 00:42:07,600 And then they say, well, no, okay, when we get to the station 660 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,400 or next station will phone him. Yep. 661 00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:12,000 And then he goes. Well, okay, no. 662 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,700 Will write him a very Stern letter. 663 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:23,500 And we did we did write to him. We send him a postcard from a 664 00:42:23,500 --> 00:42:29,500 summer camp. Oh, one other thing I noticed 665 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,100 which slightly annoyed me. Don't know why irrational. 666 00:42:33,100 --> 00:42:36,100 Annoyance, three quarters of the way through the film and 667 00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:38,700 suddenly we have narration and it's Jean. 668 00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:40,300 Yes, no. That's the funny thing is that I 669 00:42:40,308 --> 00:42:42,400 noticed. I never noticed that before. 670 00:42:42,500 --> 00:42:44,900 Hmm. And I sort of Blade Runner 671 00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:51,000 waking you like as I'm like other Cuts and the Ridley, Scott 672 00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:55,100 as your good eatin, though, the quill was a replicant all along 673 00:42:56,300 --> 00:42:59,600 but the the ya know the reason suddenly appears halfway through 674 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:06,200 it's clearly something that's been you know, they are and not 675 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,100 used and then suddenly used. Yeah it's just an outcome of how 676 00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:13,500 the editor I think it is a it's a funny thing because you don't 677 00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:16,800 need to but any more than you need it, Blade Runner. 678 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,300 Apparently you don't. What what puzzled me do. 679 00:43:19,300 --> 00:43:21,300 I get him? Back to the the arson. 680 00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:23,700 Yeah. What puzzles me about this 681 00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:25,700 ending? Was that as you? 682 00:43:25,700 --> 00:43:29,700 Well know. Yeah, during this period films 683 00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:32,400 were not allowed to have endings, where a wrongdoer 684 00:43:32,500 --> 00:43:36,100 profited or got away with it. Yeah, and I know it's a 685 00:43:36,107 --> 00:43:41,100 sympathetic character doing something that makes our heroes 686 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,200 profit I suppose, but at the end of the day, he still burned down 687 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:49,300 a cinema but I wonder I wonder if it's because You can was 688 00:43:49,300 --> 00:43:54,300 actually see him do it. It's amazing to be dubiety other 689 00:43:54,300 --> 00:43:57,700 whether he did or not. I mean there is something to be 690 00:43:57,900 --> 00:44:04,300 mmm, but at the same time it's one deed paying off another You 691 00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:06,800 know, they get they sabotage their business. 692 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,600 So he sabotages their business. Maybe that's the trade-off. 693 00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:12,600 I think it is a bit, it's a bit contrived. 694 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,000 Hmm. And because I feel that I've 695 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,900 certainly think that what's happened as the Gated they get 696 00:44:17,900 --> 00:44:22,200 to a certain point in the action and it's like, how did we finish 697 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,300 this? Because the bees use doing fine. 698 00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:29,000 You know. Yeah the dragons doing fine, 699 00:44:30,500 --> 00:44:33,100 everyone's all everybody's fine. Yeah. 700 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,600 The only delivered the the staff are happy, people are coming to 701 00:44:37,607 --> 00:44:43,400 the pictures or it. She's gonna have a baby but 702 00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:45,900 what's so bad about having the baby? 703 00:44:45,900 --> 00:44:49,000 And loving and Abhishek enema? Because apparently it's already 704 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,500 to have it in Samarkand. That's true. 705 00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:53,700 It was situated. Where is that? 706 00:44:53,700 --> 00:44:58,400 Whose Becca stano somewhere? Well it's don't it's not some 707 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,100 weird, you know, General Hospital. 708 00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:05,900 You know, so maybe that's why they got away with it. 709 00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:09,600 So the ending I'd say it's a bit contrived, but it's good fun. 710 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:15,500 Yeah, and what I think is, is also interesting, but the, the 711 00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:21,300 floor of the ocean is once well as got drunk, but he's been made 712 00:45:21,300 --> 00:45:25,900 drunk or whatever. He's very little of them in the 713 00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:29,600 film. After that, He disappears or 714 00:45:29,607 --> 00:45:31,600 were told he's in his room, they won't come out. 715 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,400 And there you don't see him again until the very end where 716 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,900 he sort of lets his way back into the cinema, the kinema. 717 00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:44,200 And then there's the sort of the universe the Daniel. 718 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,500 Yes. So he's, you know, I don't know 719 00:45:46,508 --> 00:45:50,600 why that is. I know there was scheduling 720 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:55,500 issues are in the film because apparently Margaret Rutherford 721 00:45:55,700 --> 00:45:58,300 shouldn't be insured. So I believe. 722 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,200 Mmm. So they had the road before like 723 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,900 a week to minimize the but suppose the possibility of a 724 00:46:05,908 --> 00:46:10,400 dropping dead or being killed. So there must have been problems 725 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,000 with, you know, get people together at different times and 726 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,800 as you see it's a phenomenal event C at this time so maybe he 727 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:22,300 had to nip off to do, you know, to record a couple of good shows 728 00:46:23,300 --> 00:46:30,100 and you know appear at the Alden a higher or something. 729 00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:35,200 Yeah yeah yeah. Can I just read? 730 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,300 I'll just wanted to read something that Roger Lewis 731 00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:43,500 writes about this film could be okay because he's Roger Lewis is 732 00:46:43,508 --> 00:46:48,300 a big fan of small Show on Earth indeed and he talks about the 733 00:46:48,300 --> 00:46:54,500 three staff. Yeah, so he writes some quill 734 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,400 fazakerley and old Tom don't walk in and out of their scenes 735 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,300 in cubby holes, they seem to Shimmer disembodied from the 736 00:47:02,300 --> 00:47:06,300 other side of mottled mirrors there at one with the dust and 737 00:47:06,300 --> 00:47:08,900 flecks of paint and shadowy alcoves. 738 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,700 Well, yeah, that's very, it's very opposite because you could 739 00:47:12,700 --> 00:47:18,700 almost you could see a variation of this film, you know? 740 00:47:18,700 --> 00:47:20,600 See it was nothing to do with the grand of whatever. 741 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,600 See, they had just inherited the building. 742 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:27,200 Hmm, you could, you could absolutely see a version of this 743 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,800 film. We're all Tom quillin physically 744 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,600 or ghosts? Hmm. 745 00:47:33,300 --> 00:47:36,700 Yeah. Hey, because they barely exists 746 00:47:36,700 --> 00:47:38,900 outside of it. You seek will walking up the 747 00:47:38,900 --> 00:47:42,300 road. And you see, Tom going to a half 748 00:47:42,300 --> 00:47:44,400 a? Yeah, we're because you do 749 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,100 because to push the reaction along. 750 00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:49,300 Yep. Keahi he overhears that it's 751 00:47:49,300 --> 00:47:52,500 there all the pretending to As he tells the commission here at 752 00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:56,500 the Grand, you know, when she'll judge grass by the way, his name 753 00:47:56,500 --> 00:47:58,600 is that actor? Rick? 754 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:07,500 What it's called, Victoria? But yeah, you could, you could 755 00:48:07,500 --> 00:48:14,500 absolutely believe that. The scene with the silent film 756 00:48:15,700 --> 00:48:18,900 should be a silent film, be projected and they'll be three 757 00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:22,500 ghosts there. Hey, you know what? 758 00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:24,900 Don't have that passion of? Yeah, there's more was sure 759 00:48:24,900 --> 00:48:27,300 enough. Let me just get credit the exist 760 00:48:27,300 --> 00:48:32,900 with, then the kanima they be able to exist Beyond it. 761 00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:36,900 Yeah. Roger goes on to say we can only 762 00:48:36,900 --> 00:48:39,700 guess at the reverberations the smaller Show on Earth set off in 763 00:48:39,700 --> 00:48:42,500 Cellars. Personally the end of the Roadie 764 00:48:42,500 --> 00:48:46,600 building with its chill and damp and the feeling that emanated of 765 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,500 come and gone entertainment and tat is ilfracombe and all the 766 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,200 Other reconstituted, decaying Vaudeville venues of his youth, 767 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,300 come back as it were to haunt him, but although quill is 768 00:48:58,300 --> 00:49:02,500 tetchy Snappy there is no bitterness only nostalgia. 769 00:49:05,100 --> 00:49:09,900 The truth in that as the as the silent scene. 770 00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:15,100 Mmm. Because what quill Woods has 771 00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:17,800 just for it to go on the way, it had always gone on. 772 00:49:19,100 --> 00:49:22,800 And for it to exist forever. He, you know, he Tory he 773 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,800 complains about the rats And the Machinery that, you know, the 774 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,900 comedy projections, keep that lovely touches. 775 00:49:32,300 --> 00:49:35,000 Would you cools down up a gauge, and it gives them a terrible 776 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:40,200 shot. But it also does it to build up, 777 00:49:41,500 --> 00:49:44,900 which means it's been doing it for decades. 778 00:49:46,700 --> 00:49:50,000 But it's just the way it is. You know, you don't repair 779 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,200 anything, it complain. If it didn't do it. 780 00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:56,000 Yeah, you don't appear things, you just walk around them. 781 00:49:56,900 --> 00:49:59,900 You don't replace as a co-equal with job. 782 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,400 You just incorporate them and work around them because they 783 00:50:03,408 --> 00:50:07,500 are just part of The existence of the place. 784 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,700 And it's what elevates the film is the three of them playing 785 00:50:15,700 --> 00:50:19,500 those characters because if they've been played by three 786 00:50:19,500 --> 00:50:24,300 other actors who may have been perfectly good to know, hmm with 787 00:50:24,300 --> 00:50:25,800 it. I don't do with the resonated 788 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,100 the same way. I don't like waking Lewis says, 789 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:35,600 the set that the bolt, you can imagine it taken, you know, just 790 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:41,000 raising separately browser me if this looks very like, you know, 791 00:50:42,700 --> 00:50:45,200 Seattle, you know, the theater Royal acting too. 792 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,600 Yep, I'd have it to have, put your shoes up in case the rats 793 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,700 got across them and all that sort of thing being dragged 794 00:50:52,700 --> 00:50:57,100 around the and and they bail set at playing the piano with the 795 00:50:57,100 --> 00:50:58,600 pit. Yeah. 796 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,500 And you know, all that sort of stuff ter. 797 00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:08,300 But yeah, it's a singular film in the, the sort of sale was 798 00:51:08,300 --> 00:51:11,900 Cannon. Because as we've expressed as 799 00:51:11,900 --> 00:51:15,900 we've discussed, it doesn't have that hard edge of the sort of 800 00:51:15,900 --> 00:51:21,700 bolting messages doesn't. And it doesn't have the sort of 801 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:29,100 Schmaltz. of other things or the frankly, the stupidity of things 802 00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:35,100 like the most, that reward, such a deeply stupid phone but 803 00:51:35,100 --> 00:51:39,400 somehow, it would be better to Cheating the world's most 804 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,100 destructive Bob and let it be looked after by the little 805 00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:45,900 Nations, so we'll give it enough career then. 806 00:51:45,900 --> 00:51:53,800 Well, we actually smokes it so yeah. 807 00:51:53,800 --> 00:52:01,400 It's a, it's a grateful it's again, I think it's I think it 808 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:02,800 resonates with me particular ways. 809 00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:04,900 I'm sure it goes with a lot of people. 810 00:52:06,300 --> 00:52:10,600 Because of that sense of what send them I used to be, but 811 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,800 that's not Cinema actually, because that's a very much 812 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:15,700 cousins thing. Is it? 813 00:52:17,500 --> 00:52:23,000 It's a very my cousins or Mark kermode or Mark has no, no Mark, 814 00:52:23,100 --> 00:52:27,300 no Mark Customs, no, no, custom critic, because Mark cousins was 815 00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:29,000 on the show last week, but a different matter. 816 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,600 Do that, do that. What I can do, I'd talking about 817 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:38,200 the film critic, a talks cheerfully, and his friends with 818 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,700 coldest. Winton, it talks about the 819 00:52:40,700 --> 00:52:45,700 lumps. No, no, no, I'm talking about 820 00:52:45,700 --> 00:52:49,700 the resonance that the pit. Pictures have and the it's a 821 00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:53,000 particular thing is the pictures hmm. 822 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,700 Going to the films are good at the pictures and it's a fib to 823 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,700 within the short neglect, the smaller show now as the pictures 824 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:06,300 and the experience of going to the pictures in that way, even 825 00:53:06,300 --> 00:53:11,600 at the Grand Let alone The Bijou is gone. 826 00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:16,500 I mean, it lingered on for a long time and then covid killed 827 00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:22,200 her because now going to the cinema, I choose Cinema, but I 828 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:29,100 start is wildly expensive. Yes, it is crippling. 829 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,600 It's cripplingly expensive. Did it to the extent that I 830 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,100 don't really understand. Certainly how families can 831 00:53:36,100 --> 00:53:41,300 afford to go now. So that it's become something 832 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,600 more of an event because films are also the films are shown 833 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:51,800 that also paraded as a veins because it is Marvel films and 834 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,100 things like that. Mmm, not just feld's that 835 00:53:55,100 --> 00:53:59,900 episodes of staggers. Instead of never doubted the 836 00:53:59,900 --> 00:54:01,300 pictures for the night for him, you know. 837 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,600 Yep. Even born film some more 838 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,500 episodes of a Saiga. Well aware until we got a 839 00:54:06,508 --> 00:54:09,900 measurable but will you wait and see if you are kill? 840 00:54:12,100 --> 00:54:13,800 It's just when you see a punt gun from. 841 00:54:14,700 --> 00:54:18,200 Well, kind of fun. Well, it's funny to start 842 00:54:18,500 --> 00:54:22,200 touching me, you know, that until they start machine-gunning 843 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,700 people that's against about much. 844 00:54:24,300 --> 00:54:29,000 However, the experience of going to the pictures which was a, 845 00:54:29,100 --> 00:54:35,100 which was a sort of collective memory or a collective 846 00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:39,600 experience, in the sense that It was the same for everybody. 847 00:54:41,100 --> 00:54:44,700 The win at the time. You know the wood as I say there 848 00:54:44,700 --> 00:54:47,000 was the order of the ABC. There was a local flea pets. 849 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,100 But it didn't matter who you where if you wanted to go with 850 00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:51,300 the pictures, that's where you win. 851 00:54:52,500 --> 00:54:54,700 Mom, who will off you better where you were from? 852 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:56,900 And you would go to the pictures. 853 00:54:56,900 --> 00:54:58,800 You would sit in the store when you can be sitting next to 854 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,500 somebody from a completely different. 855 00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,300 Social grouping complete, you just went to the pictures. 856 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,100 Yes. But that doesn't exist anymore. 857 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:13,100 because no, that are Swanky said of us, were you sit on couches 858 00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:16,200 and have your dinner self? Do you find? 859 00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,200 As you see, even vibrating Sates. 860 00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,100 And also, I believe it exists all sorts of things but they're 861 00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:25,900 expensive and it's an event and it's awful and it's just not the 862 00:55:25,900 --> 00:55:31,600 collective. Experience that I say Collective 863 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,000 not the sense of the people in the hole but a shared common 864 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,300 experience. I should see the common 865 00:55:37,300 --> 00:55:41,700 experience for everybody. Just doesn't really exist 866 00:55:41,700 --> 00:55:42,600 anymore. Okay. 867 00:55:43,100 --> 00:55:45,900 You know if you go to other wedding or whatever opposite 868 00:55:45,900 --> 00:55:49,400 numbers are available in a regular wheel hitch trouble, you 869 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,800 know, you go to you set down whatever but it's just it's just 870 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,900 not the same. Nah, I'd what you see on this on 871 00:55:55,900 --> 00:56:03,000 the smaller show in the Earth. Ironically 66 years ago. is a 872 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:10,400 memory of what this going to the pictures used to be like We 873 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,400 watch would we watch the smallest show in there? 874 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,400 Is a memory of what the pictures used to be like since then as 875 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,100 well. Hmm. 876 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:24,000 Because it existed for a long time and it kinda doesn't exist 877 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:29,200 anymore. you know, when the last ticket will Matic punched out 878 00:56:30,700 --> 00:56:34,700 And the last young Lassie, and that's not sexist, that's what 879 00:56:34,700 --> 00:56:40,300 they were stood with a tree of Cancun's during an intermission. 880 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,900 Mmm. You know, it just it's just 881 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,000 that's kind of that's kind of all going. 882 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,700 Thankfully? You get to see it in films like 883 00:56:49,700 --> 00:56:54,100 the smallest show in the Earth. and it's probably why the short 884 00:56:54,500 --> 00:57:00,500 that's used from it, so much, Crops up so often, which is when 885 00:57:00,500 --> 00:57:05,100 quill tons on the projector and then looks down the legs. 886 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:10,100 Yeah, at the audience, everybody knows what's going on. 887 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,900 Thanks again to Chris. I hope you enjoyed it. 888 00:57:19,900 --> 00:57:23,900 Hope you enjoy this week and last week's conversation if you 889 00:57:23,900 --> 00:57:28,400 like the sort of long form chaps that we have about films like 890 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,400 this split over a couple of episodes. 891 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,600 Please let me know or if you would prefer just a really Mega 892 00:57:35,700 --> 00:57:39,300 length single episode, you know, two hours. 893 00:57:39,300 --> 00:57:42,100 Plus I'd also considered Doing that from time to time. 894 00:57:42,300 --> 00:57:45,300 I will be back next week. I think next week we are going 895 00:57:45,300 --> 00:57:50,600 to be talking about all being well the recent Sky Arts 896 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:56,000 documentary from last year about Spike Milligan which which went 897 00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:00,400 down very well and it's myself and Veteran podcaster actually 898 00:58:00,700 --> 00:58:03,300 Simon weddings from the waffle on podcast. 899 00:58:03,700 --> 00:58:06,900 So hopefully that will be next week if not, we'll be something 900 00:58:06,900 --> 00:58:09,600 else but that's what's in the schedule. 901 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,800 So it only Reminds me to say, thank you for listening. 902 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,700 Take care of yourselves. See you soon. 903 00:58:14,900 --> 00:58:12,200 Bye. Reminds me to say, thank you for 904 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,100 listening. Take care of yourselves. 905 00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:15,400 See you soon. Bye.