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You hear me? 
Right. 

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Can you tell us where Studios 3?
Years straight up there and look

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at the stock on Trent and ask 
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I think you're very funny and 
you really make. 

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Me laugh, I'm sure. 
Actually, he doesn't want to 

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know about that. 
Hello, and welcome to Game Pod. 

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Well, it's three years since the
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never thought it'd get this far.
I figured maybe eight people 

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would listen to it, if I'm 
lucky. 

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But now, 150 episodes in, 
literally thousands of people 

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have listened to Game Pod and I 
I'm thrilled to bits, and I owe 

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it all to you lot who who have 
listened to it and supported the

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show. 
And there's still so much left 

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to cover. 
It'll be a while until I reach 

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that barrel of scraping stage of
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stick with all the episodes of 
the Melting Pot on it, but you 

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never know. 
That day may come so many fun 

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shows and great guests and new 
friends, and Goonpot has been 

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such a tonic for me and really 
helped me work through some 

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stuff. 
And I like how it has evolved so

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that we often just talk about 
great comedy in general, you 

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know, with nothing to do with 
the goons. 

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But of course they'll always be 
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So because it's kind of a a 
landmark episode, I thought I'd 

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be a little bit indulgent and 
record an episode with three 

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friends, two of whom really 
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faltering steps into podcasting,
and the other who has shown how 

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podcasts can actually change 
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And all three of them have been 
an inspiration. 

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So I hope you enjoy the 
conversation. 

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If you could identify yourself, 
say hello. 

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So we've got, we've got Andrew. 
Hi, I'm Andrew Hickey. 

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I do a podcast called The 
History of Rock Music in 500 

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Songs and I'm going to have the 
least to say about anybody here.

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Thank you, Andrew. 
Gary. 

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Good evening. 
Yes, I'm Gary. 

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My full time gig is in the 
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but also I'm a founder member 
with Tilt of the Sitcom Club 

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currently on hiatus and possibly
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soon. 
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Thunder there, I fear that. 
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I'm tilted. 
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say that I'm the most talented 
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I'm definitely in the top two. 
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wasn't sitcoms but was still 
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late 20th century. 
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because I'm talking to you 
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high quality microphone. 
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for me because I had terrible 
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with what happened, but. 
I very much got microphone envy.

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So yeah, Gary, Tilt, Andrew and 
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watch old TV, we'll listen to 
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we get together and and and NASA
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quite nice to bring that to 
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conversation about a film which 
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wheelhouse and as he's already 
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Andrews. 
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qualifies for Goombod by virtue 
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didn't. 
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Maybe a minute and a half of 
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Somewhere around that, yeah. 
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It's a memorable minute and a 
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Whatever heard that before? 
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set the scene for this because 
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looking up some bits and pieces.
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release date of the film and 
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I think was better than that any
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involving strip poker, monopoly 
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Now what else is there to say? 
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isn't it? 
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That is absolutely good. 
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We see, see, I would have, I 
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human condition. 
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Jokes, and also some good old 
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1970s. 
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about that maybe. 
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doesn't really set you up for 90
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film. 
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Sounds like the theme tune to Do
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Have you ever seen I Start 
Counting? 

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that theme, but I'm not saying 
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But yeah, it's it's setting you 
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theme tune for, right? 
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that. 
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melancholic's comedy drama with 
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know? 
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farce with with with a strip 
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I mean it. 
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Man Up at the House has one of 
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Hawkes, which is just a. 
Belter, Do you think the film 

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would have been better if it 
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film theme tune? 
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hip twitcher toe Tapper. 
I really like that. 

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Do you not like it till? 
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the sitcom movies, I think it's 
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Being Served? 
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isn't? 
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the original theme tune, but but
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seconds worth or whatever. 
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completely overhauled, isn't it?
Isn't it funky version? 

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Yeah, but it's it's a version of
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it? 
Right. 

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OK, fair enough. 
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begin with Harry Nelson without 
Yes. 

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Yeah. 
That must have cost a bit. 

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Not so, Not so much, but not so 
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difficult to get the licensing 
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way it is now. 
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that kind of song used in all 
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since the publishing rights will
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Badfinger who wrote that, who 
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they wrote no other big hits 
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So I can't imagine, I can't 
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to use. 
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just guessed it on another 
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Dracula that had without you in 
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And that must have cost less, 
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than the porridge film. 
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have Nelson starring in it. 
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can't have been huge, hugely 
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ITC. 
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any way? 
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conduit to, I don't know, ATV 
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published by ATV Music, but it 
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because they were signed to 
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connections would be there. 
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Badfinger songwriting, but it 
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it make a little bit more sense.
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yeah? 
I'll be very impressed if you or

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Tilk can squeeze in a reference 
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chat. 
I had no plans to, but now 

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you've said it, I'm going to 
have a good thing. 

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Nelson had just written a song, 
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He's he's one of the people I 
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up with something. 
Absolutely. 

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It would have been great for it,
I think. 

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I think it would have fit very 
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How would he how would he adapt 
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theme tune which which isn't a 
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Barker sentencing Norman 
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Fletcher. 
No, nothing. 

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Quite possibly. 
Sing that. 

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I mean Nelson sang the theme 
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didn't he? 
Which, which is just reading out

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the credits. 
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Always had it easy with a man 
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mirror. 
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it's. 
Just a friend, a helping hand, a

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ready willing. 
Smile. 

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We all watched this film. 
When was it the other? 

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Night. 
Yeah. 

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Day before yesterday, Yeah. 
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O'sullivan's 80th birthday. 
Very appropriate. 

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The Man About the House, the TV 
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covered Man About the House 
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haven't you? 
Yes, the the first time I had a 

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bit of a crisis about it because
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much I could say around it. 
And that's not because it's a 

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bad series at all. 
It really is a fairly reliable 

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put it on and you will enjoy 
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It's just that I couldn't think 
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The phrase I sometimes used was 
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aren't any knobbly bits around 
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It's a gank delivery system with
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By the way, if there are any 
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how old am I? 
From the US? 

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Just a quick explanation, man. 
About the House is the British 

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robbing trips, pretending to be 
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Crissy. 
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at the end of the first episode,
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at the beginning of the 2nd. 
Yeah, that's right. 

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And it does it. 
It continues in Three's company,

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doesn't it? 
All through the run, yeah. 

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You seem to spend a lot of Was 
it the first, the first episode 

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you did on Men about the house? 
You were very exercised by the 

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pronunciation of the director of
Napoleon. 

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Not really, Scott I Bill Gaunt. 
I think it might be the second 

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one actually. 
Yes, yes. 

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I think we actually ended up we 
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because of the pronunciation of 
Avalon. 

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In pronunciation, Gary, yes, the
one of our arguments no. 

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No, this this is back to Flacid 
and Flacid again, yes. 

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Yeah, it's pronounced flex it 
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How many people? 
How many people use flexes in an

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everyday conversation? 
It's. 

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Funny in that way, though it's 
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Flex. 
It is funnier than flaccid. 

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Yeah. 
Gary, didn't you get? 

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I think I'm sure you've got 
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mixed up as. 
Well, I did, yes. 

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Yes, this is true. 
That's not the most embarrassing

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mix up that I've made. 
I think there's one involving, 

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yeah, a film and maybe another 
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We're well into the conversation
before you realize people. 

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No. 
Well. 

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It's once the conversation about
Barry Lyndon before I realized 

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that Harry was talking about 
Barry McKenzie, which is not a 

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Kubrick film. 
It probably does have some cast 

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members in common though. 
No, it it doesn't actually, 

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'cause we talked about this and 
we went through, we couldn't 

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find any. 
We we had, we had this 

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conversation a few months back 
and yet we couldn't find anybody

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in common. 
And we looked, yeah. 

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I don't remember that. 
Maybe it was one of the times 

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you went here, but I I remember 
having this conversation. 

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Having fun without me? 
Dare you. 

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So, Andrew, what about you? 
I mean, you're slightly younger 

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than than us. 
Yeah. 

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Do you? 
Did you, do you remember? 

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Did you watch Man about the 
House and repeat? 

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I saw in repeat in like the 80s 
or 90s odd episodes. 

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Weirdly, I thought I hadn't 
watched this film until we were 

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watching it on Tuesday. 
And then a bunch of scenes 

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particularly the strip poker 
scene. 

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I, I, I clearly saw saw the film
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I was a teenager and remembered 
it as being just an episode of 

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the TV show. 
So yeah I'm I'm sort of I I and 

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obviously we have watched 
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to get together over the over 
the last couple of years as 

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well. 
So I'm I'm very familiar with it

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but not not as familiar as 
Tilton Gary. 

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But it's it's it's a series I 
know. 

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You know. 
If you remember the strip poker 

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scene, Andrew, then it wasn't 
the central TV version that you 

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remember seeing. 
Right. 

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Oh, do you want to talk about 
the the TV edit now then? 

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So we we came into, I don't know
how we came into possession of 

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this. 
I mean like a lot of the stuff 

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that we've got like on 
transmitted pilots and all sorts

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of things. 
Somehow we managed to get hold 

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of a recording and it was 
central TV and I think it was 

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about maybe 1999 something like 
that. 

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And it was late at night and 
they had put out a version of 

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Man about the house that was 
missing about almost 15 minutes 

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in total. 
It really been. 

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So I presume this is just for 
for timing purposes and you did 

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get some odd edits in it. 
So like, as we've all alluded to

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already, there's a lengthy scene
involving Robin trying to 

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convince Chrissy and Joe to play
strip poker and eventually 

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succeeding. 
But it backfires course and this

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scene doesn't appear in this TV 
edit, but all the preamble 

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beforehand does. 
So Robin is just for some reason

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just constantly going on about 
strip poker and then nothing 

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comes of it. 
And I'm sure there are still 

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some back references to it later
on about a scene that we haven't

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seen. 
Yeah, nothing like clumsy 

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editing. 
It's like it's like the. 

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Apple. 
Which I haven't seen. 

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Oh, we have to make you watch 
the apple. 

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No, I'm. 
Not watching the apple it. 

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Is one of the least boring films
ever made. 

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This is. 
This is true. 

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This is true. 
It's. 

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Yes, it's so it's a disco 
musical from circa 19. 

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I think it's 1980. 
Yeah, 80, yeah. 

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Completely bonkers. 
It has Laddick Cherbel singing a

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reggae song about how to be a 
master. 

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And also the ending is a payoff 
to an introduction that didn't 

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end up in the film. 
So the ending is just so 

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completely out of left field and
raises more questions than the 

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answers. 
And by the way, without You is 

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by Apple Publishing. 
Look on 45 Cat. 

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Right. 
Of course. 

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That makes sense. 
Yeah, right. 

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My favorite piece of cock handed
editing was when they were 

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showing in sickness and health 
on rather plus much missed 

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channel. 
And they were editing the the 

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BBC Half Hour to Commercial TV 
Half Hour. 

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There's a scene where Alf 
mentions that he's got a new 

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clock radio and Ken Campbell's 
character in the pub offers to 

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set it up for him. 
You know, supposedly being 

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helpful. 
And then at the end of the 

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episode the bloody thing goes 
off at 3:00 in the morning with 

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a volume turn to fool on radio, 
one of the hell it is. 

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And just waking up the whole 
damn street. 

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But the conversation between 
them and the pub had been cut, 

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so all it made off look was just
incompetent that he didn't know 

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how to set up radio by himself. 
They used to cut 3 or 4 minutes 

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out of every half hour BBC 
sitcom when I was watching 

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growing up in New Zealand and 
which which meant for example 

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you could be watching an episode
of a low and low and the end 

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credits you have been watching 
could be characters that you 

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haven't seen. 
Yeah, during the episode they've

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just been excised. 
Well, of course we have that 

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situation with this film, don't 
we? 

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Because of the couple of names 
and the the opening titles that 

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we don't actually see in the 
film about these days AM. 

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Jack Smithers and Rudolf Walker.
Yes, better known as Gary. 

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Well bet, better known as the 
the Warning neighbors in Lovely 

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Neighbor. 
This I mean, I I quite well. 

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I know I really do enjoy this 
film, but then it helps because 

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I really enjoy the TV series. 
In fact, I would. 

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I would say that Man About the 
House is possibly my favorite 

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sitcom. 
It's just, it's just I'm not 

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going to. 
I hate to use the word comfort 

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viewing, but it's. 
Just no, it is. 

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It's it's a comfortable thing to
watch. 

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It's it it goes back to what 
Tilt was saying about not having

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nobly bits. 
The the upside of that is there 

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is nothing abrasive about it. 
It's very, very, very, very, 

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very well crafted, very 
likeable. 

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You can. 
You can put it on and just enjoy

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yourself. 
And at no point, at no point are

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you going to have to you. 
You don't. 

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You don't have to work to enjoy 
it at all but it but it's still 

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solidly good. 
It it's it. 

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It doesn't talk down to you. 
It doesn't it doesn't insult 

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your intelligence, but it but it
doesn't make you work for it 

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either. 
Yeah. 

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And also, there's no there's 
every character I like. 

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Yeah, and and that's very rare. 
I I find there's there's often a

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character in a sitcom that I 
just don't like for whatever 

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reason, but I like all of them, 
even even Jo. 

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I mean Jo can be slightly 
annoying but just because she's 

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a bit scatty but now in in terms
of you know this I this I 

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consider to be a a successful 
film sitcom to screen transfer. 

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What? 
What? 

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What? 
What would you guys say are the 

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more successful or the least 
successful sitcoms to films 

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well, that period? 
Well, the the most successful, 

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the Like Lads film was very 
good. 

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We watched that the other month,
didn't we? 

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And that that that worked 
surprisingly well. 

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Them not not really as a comedy 
that that that was quite, quite 

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bleak and I I quite like the 
porridge film. 

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I've not seen that in many 
years, but I I remember that as 

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being quite good. 
And there are, there are some, 

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there were some sitcom films, 
which in a strange way they go 

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on to be sort of the only 
representation of that 

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particular sitcom. 
I mean, I think that the sitcom,

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the BBC sitcom That's Your 
Funeral Now, I think only exists

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in its film version. 
I think the TV series itself was

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white. 
And you get occasionally turning

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up films such as, say, Nearest 
and Dearest, for example, or oh,

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what do you call it? 
Never mind the quality, feel the

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width. 
Which, oh, they're all sort of, 

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you know, varying degrees of of 
success at the box office or 

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whatever. 
But this business about, I mean,

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I'm sure we've spoken about this
on plenty podcast before, but 

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this business about Oh yeah, 
talking head says in in in clip 

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show documentary. 
They always go abroad on 

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holiday. 
No, they did that once. 

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And are you being? 
And that's it. 

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I think they might. 
They don't show us, at least. 

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One more. 
Holiday on the buses. 

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Buses. 
I will hold in the buses in 

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Prestatyn. 
I don't like to think about 

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that. 
Are you? 

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And Duty Free, although that 
wasn't a feature film, was it? 

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No. 
No, that's the whole premise of 

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the show, isn't it? 
Thinking about it. 

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That would be interesting. 
A duty free feature film in 

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which they are back home for a 
bit. 

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Oh thanks George, could just do 
with a nice cup of tea. 

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Oh yeah. 
Well, there's one in the pot. 

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I was thinking, Mildred, perhaps
we should consider selling it. 

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What, this? 
It's all rust and rattles. 

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No, no, no. 
I'm in the house. 

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I'm thinking the money we could 
make. 

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George, What good is money if 
you haven't got your elf? 

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Oh, I've got me elf. 
You won't have if you sell my 

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house. 22 years of marriage. 
All we've got to show for is our

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house, yeah. 
Well, it wasn't my fault. 

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I went to the clinic and they 
said it. 

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Wasn't my fault. 
Well, it certainly wasn't mine. 

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I don't like children. 
Look, George, you can't hit the 

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jackpot if you don't put the 
money in the machine. 

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We didn't mention it, by the 
way, but it was something that 

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caught my eye a moment ago, 
talking about some various 

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adaptations. 
And the strange thing, of 

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course, is that man about the 
house, I think we all agree, is 

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one of the better adaptations. 
Yes. 

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And at the other end of the 
scale, George and Mildred. 

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What? 
I really like about this. 

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This little piece of trivia here
spotted George and Mildred was 

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broadcast on ITV on Christmas 
Day afternoon, immediately after

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the Queen's Christmas message, 
the implication being that she 

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introduced it. 
Well, that's enough for me 

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anyway. 
A nice pussy film. 

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And and with with poor youth of 
barely cold in the grave, yeah. 

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Yeah. 
And it it would had only been 

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released theatrically, what, 
three months before. 

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July of 1980, yeah, right. 
OK. 

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Listen, it believed to be like 
there was a 1-2 punch of George 

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and Mildred and rising Damp that
killed off the British sitcom 

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film. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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And in this film he's 42. 
Brian Murphy is 42 in this film.

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I'm not sure how old George is 
meant to be, but just just I 

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just a little bit of a 
comparison. 

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So Brian Murphy is 42 in this 
film. 

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Picture him in your 
mindlessness. 

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The the character of George 
Roper. 

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OK Tom Hardy is 46 now. 
Tom Hiddleston is 43. 

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Henry Cavill is 41. 
Brian Murphy is only 42, 

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although he looks like a child 
in primary school if you if you 

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think of Richard Vernon or a guy
from Guy From. 

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Yellow. 
What's it called? 

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No, Woodward. 
Edward Woodward Callen. 

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What's the guy from Callen 
called till? 

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Robert Red. 
Is it Robert or Ronald Ronald 

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Red? 
Ronald Red. 

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Yes, that's it. 
Ronald Red, who's only a year 

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old with them. 
Edward Woodward. 

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And yeah, and long paper round, 
Yeah. 

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And the thing was Brian Murphy 
as well. 

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So George is very thinning on 
top, which was Brian Murphy's 

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natural state. 
So he was happy to to be, you 

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know, immortalized on film with 
his natural thinning thatch. 

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But he wore a wig normally. 
Is that Is that right? 

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Yeah, I've seen him in 
interviews and shows. 

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I think even Slate is the the 
early 90s with with a piece, but

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I think that probably went by 
both of the the mid 90s or that 

437
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about so when he was in one foot
in the grave. 

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With my favorite episode of Man,
Who better blew away? 

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Yes, Yeah, Yeah. 
And Gary, when we started 

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watching this film you it begins
with what we can hear. 

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Someone's having a bath and the 
camera is slowly panning towards

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the bathroom. 
And Gary, you said because it 

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was a film, you wondered how 
many punters were going in 

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hoping that it was going to be 
there was going to be a bit more

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X-rated action, but it was not 
to be of well. 

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Exactly, it is. 
It's sort of alluding to that 

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straight away, isn't it? 
Because obviously this is, this 

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is the same year as the first of
the Confessions films and you 

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know British cinemas. 
Is is on its arse or has Robin 

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asked Chris Arse on the screen 
or whatever it is? 

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And yeah, I mean that and that's
the best of them because 

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subcrud. 
And I've seen most of it, but oh

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God, tell what was that one that
we watched? 

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00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,080
But we didn't watch him with 
him, obviously, but the one with

455
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:50,360
Keith Barron and Kenneth Cope. 
She'll follow you anywhere. 

456
00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:53,960
Yeah, that that might have been 
the absolute pits, but that was 

457
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,800
just. 
I would tell you what the 

458
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,240
premise is, but we'd have to do 
a content warning that gives you

459
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:04,360
an idea. 
To tell you what I was, I was 

460
00:26:04,360 --> 00:26:09,120
going to ask by the way, here we
are, what, half an hour into the

461
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:10,360
conversation. 
Andrew. 

462
00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:12,680
Yeah, Andrew, let's just take a 
little digression here. 

463
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,200
Tell the listeners what you were
up to last night. 

464
00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:17,600
Oh yeah. 
Well, I went to see the band 

465
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,800
Tenacious D because they are 
fans of my podcast and they get 

466
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,720
me free tickets and then go on 
the guest list and stuff. 

467
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,960
And they announced from the 
stage that I am the greatest 

468
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,520
podcaster in the world and that 
everybody should like me and 

469
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,320
stuff. 
That was quite that was quite 

470
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,840
nice. 
So I've been in a rather odd 

471
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,640
state today because it's not 
normally the case that you have 

472
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:46,640
like people who have had their 
own films announcing to 14,000 

473
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,720
seats, sold out arenas that that
you are the greatest on earth. 

474
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,680
And then I went backstage and 
Kyle Tenacious DS guitarist, 

475
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,120
spent about 19 minutes being a 
fanboy of me. 

476
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:03,160
And this is this is not my 
normal life, but it's sort of 

477
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,760
been my life. 
Recently I I seem to be getting 

478
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,600
celebrity fans, which which is 
fun but strange so. 

479
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,440
The three of us can relate to 
that. 

480
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:21,840
Can't we get me in 2 because 
because you were in Vegas, I do 

481
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:22,840
what a week? 
Or so, yeah. 

482
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,000
A couple of weeks ago I was in 
Vegas as a guest of Penn 

483
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,560
Jillette and that that that was 
fun as well. 

484
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,320
He he was. 
He's, he's another big fan of 

485
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,280
the podcast. 
I do. 

486
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,000
I do have a few very famous 
fans. 

487
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,400
I believe Kevin Bacon gave me a 
shout out on Instagram one time 

488
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,880
that that kind, that kind of 
thing. 

489
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:48,160
But I I don't really understand 
this because you know, I I am in

490
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,520
all, in all other respects, I am
basically living the same life 

491
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,440
as the rest of you, you know, 
just just doing my podcast for 

492
00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:01,040
an audience of us basically. 
But it seems to have caught on. 

493
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:05,240
So anyway, back to the film I 
want to talk about. 

494
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:07,680
So Larry is one of my favorite 
characters. 

495
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,440
The character of Larry The Who 
who I think he turns up in the 

496
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,360
in the sitcom What Series 2 is 
it Gary maybe? 

497
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,520
He no, I'm just, I'm wondering, 
I think he might make an 

498
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,160
appearance towards the end of 
series one. 

499
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,560
As well, OK, on and off 
character, but he more or less 

500
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,160
becomes a regular character 
after a couple of series and he 

501
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,200
ends up moving in to the house 
although he's living. 

502
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,240
Is he living in the? 
Is he living amongst George's 

503
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,000
pornography up in the? 
Yes, because they they they 

504
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,520
convert the the, the attic. 
Yeah. 

505
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,400
And they they they, they must be
in this film because because he,

506
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,120
he gets involved in the campaign
to not have, not have the place 

507
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,240
knocked down, doesn't it? 
Because he because he he'll lose

508
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,120
his home as well. 
So this this must be set while 

509
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,280
he's living, living in the 
house, yeah? 

510
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,160
Do do you? 
You don't get that impression, 

511
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,240
do you? 
No, no. 

512
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,760
But I think, I think they're 
just assuming that you have that

513
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,000
background knowledge because 
otherwise he's just, he's just a

514
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,800
random person who turns up 
occasionally, isn't he? 

515
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,360
In this. 
But yeah, yeah. 

516
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,080
I don't, I don't want to dwell 
on this aspect, but do we, do we

517
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,000
presume that as part of Larry's 
sort of living arrangements that

518
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,960
maybe yes, he's got a sort of, I
don't know, he struck a deal 

519
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:23,280
with George where part of the 
rent he'll pay in cash and then 

520
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,960
the rest he he will pay sort of 
in kind. 

521
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,520
To Mildred. 
No, no, I still I meant, but 

522
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,000
actually yes, considering how 
this film ends. 

523
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,400
George what's the what's the 
modern day what could called is 

524
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:40,200
that it? 
Yeah. 

525
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,400
Yeah. 
So yeah, I mean, oh God, if the 

526
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,000
film we got on all 10 minutes, 
they would be doing it in front 

527
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,560
of George and he's on sofa. 
Yeah, but Arthur, you mean after

528
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,160
the Thames television 
commissioner who moves in as a 

529
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,440
lodger at the end who, because 
he was. 

530
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,480
He was Mildred's old flame 
during the war, I think. 

531
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:57,960
Was it? 
Was he? 

532
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,840
And of course we've got better 
recording, haven't we? 

533
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,720
Because Mildred's surname in the
film is different to her surname

534
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,440
in the series. 
Yeah, she's asked with in this 

535
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,560
maiden name and but it was 
established in the sitcom that 

536
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:16,720
her surname and maiden name was 
Trek, Tremble, Mildred. 

537
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,920
Which I think is a way you can 
kind of reconcile it, that if 

538
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,800
your surname was trembled, you 
might lie about it and say it 

539
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,840
was Asquith. 
If it was Mildred Nate Tremble, 

540
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,200
possibly her. 
Possibly her name was originally

541
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,120
Tremble Asquith and she changed 
the first name. 

542
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,840
I'm pretty sure. 
I'm pretty sure Tremble and ask 

543
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,680
with as a Yorkshire TV cartoon 
from 1969. 

544
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,240
You already you've lambered me 
here, mate. 

545
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,280
Mousetrap and Vicky's for Table 
9. 

546
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,880
Larry, Larry. 
No, no, no, no selects. 

547
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,560
I want to formage to France. 
I think this week. 

548
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,040
Yeah, and if we're in a 
Vicarage, Oh yeah, and one ice 

549
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:03,680
cream. 
Coming up one vanilla. 

550
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,560
Oh no, sorry. 
Can you make that chocolate? 

551
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,000
I'll do my best. 
Abracadabra. 

552
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,840
It's not worked here. 
Coverage in Curry powder. 

553
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,920
They won't know the difference. 
I'd love to go for a Jimmy Cup 

554
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,680
hold of that. 
Hey, And when I come back, 

555
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,840
remind me to tell you all about 
the daffodil. 

556
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,880
Oh dear Daffodil. 
Go there. 

557
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,280
A stingy lot of customers in 
there. 

558
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,520
The only tip I've seen all day 
is this kitchen. 

559
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,400
I don't know. 
I feel a bit sorry for Larry in 

560
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,800
this he, I think he he he, well,
he he doesn't have a lot to do 

561
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,160
in this film. 
No, no. 

562
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,960
Does he? 
No, he's he's basically not any 

563
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,400
you you could, you could edit 
him out of the film completely 

564
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,240
and you wouldn't you wouldn't 
really notice, you know in in in

565
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,840
the sitcom he's usually the 
focus of AB plot or quite often 

566
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,400
the focus of AB plot. 
You know, he's, he's there, but 

567
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,800
here he's just sort of one, one 
of the one of the crowd in the 

568
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,200
pub and so on, isn't he? 
He has a few more lines than 

569
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,360
other people in the crowd. 
But yeah, he's on the same level

570
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,720
as, you know, Melvin Hayes's 
character. 

571
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,360
Almost. 
Melvin Hayes, The Raging 

572
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,520
Heterosexual, Yes. 
That's so just something I 

573
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:21,120
quickly want to mention. 
Our mutual friend Ian has this 

574
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:26,160
thing called 10% actors, which 
is an actor who, if they're in 

575
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,920
something, the the overall 
production is going to be 10% 

576
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,640
better than it would have been 
without them. 

577
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:37,720
Yeah, the number of 10% actors 
in this means that this is 150% 

578
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:38,880
of the film. 
It couldn't be. 

579
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,120
Yeah 'cause even little parts. 
What? 

580
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:48,160
So yeah, Melvin Hayes is in this
as the companion of Michael 

581
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,080
Ward. 
I mean, Michael Ward is always 

582
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,920
my heart leaps when I see, oh 
great, Michael Ward's in this. 

583
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,880
We're going to get at least one 
great performance if nobody else

584
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,840
is doing their best. 
Well, it's funny you should say 

585
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,080
that because last episode I was 
talking about Casino Royale 

586
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:09,400
1967, and I and I made a point 
of saying that any film, no 

587
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:14,360
matter how dreadful, is 
infinitely improved by the 

588
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,800
presence, even if it's just a 
small, you know, walk on part by

589
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,560
the presence of either Bernard 
Cribbins or John Bluthall. 

590
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,320
Yeah. 
Ideally, both of them, yeah. 

591
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,160
And and Casino Royale has that 
has that honor. 

592
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,960
So that those are two, what 
would you call it, 10%. 

593
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,480
Those are 210% actors, aren't 
they? 

594
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,400
Yeah, Blue, blue, swimming 
cribbins. 

595
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,120
Yeah, and this has got like, 
Aubrey Morrissey's another one, 

596
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,920
isn't it? 
You know, there's some, really. 

597
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:38,920
Oh, yes. 
Yeah. 

598
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,840
Some. 
Oh, and Maynard. 

599
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,000
Yes, the Maynard. 
Yeah. 

600
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,240
Do you want to describe Bill 
Maynard it? 

601
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,520
Well it we see two sides of the 
character that he plays in this.

602
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:58,240
We see the the, the, the filthy 
vest and sucking on a grubby dog

603
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,360
end chef character that he plays
and then you and then he 

604
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,360
smartens up later on in the 
film. 

605
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,920
I get an impression that there 
may be there been some sort of 

606
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,719
editing of the of the text 
because it appears there's a 

607
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,760
little hint of it. 
But it appears that Robin has 

608
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,800
worked wonders on him because 
when he goes to work at the 

609
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:23,639
restaurant then yeah, Maynard is
the the chef and situ is is very

610
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:26,800
much yeah. 
You haven't got time to faff 

611
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,080
about in here with cleanliness 
and and then before you know it,

612
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,320
it's the place is transformed 
and. 

613
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,600
Oh yes, I thought I'd missed 
something. 

614
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:36,440
No. 
We never really getting 

615
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,159
explanations to this sort of 
Manny Poppins effect that that 

616
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:43,800
Robin has, yeah. 
Saying about Larry having not a 

617
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,080
lot to do. 
The same could be said for for 

618
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,120
Joe, for Sally Thompson 
character. 

619
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,639
Yes. 
She doesn't really have a lot. 

620
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:51,960
I mean she she doesn't do a lot 
on the sitcom, let's face it. 

621
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,960
But she's there's a there's a, 
there's an attempt of a a sort 

622
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,160
of AC or AD plot with her and 
Larry fumbling about in his in 

623
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,080
his VW on a park, precariously 
on a riverbank. 

624
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,200
But that's about it really, 
Kingsley Amos said. 

625
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,360
Sally Thompson looks like she 
was designed by a committee of 

626
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,080
sex maniacs. 
I I think she deserves, no, she 

627
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:21,040
deserves praise because as you 
said, Joe could be an annoying 

628
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,240
character, she could be very 
irritating. 

629
00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:26,320
And Sammy Thompson just makes 
her likable. 

630
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,600
And there's always that thing 
that certainly at some point 

631
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,760
there are jokes in which she 
indicates that she knows that 

632
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,600
she's the idiot. 
But also Thompson's performance 

633
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,080
gives a little sort of just a 
little edge of knowing thing. 

634
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,640
Yeah, I know I'm not that 
clever. 

635
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,800
That's I'm going to speak 
anyway. 

636
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,000
She she's the Peter Talk of the 
group. 

637
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,520
Yes, yes. 
I was just thinking about 

638
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:51,200
myself. 
Yes. 

639
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,480
Not getting eggs? 
You like them yesterday? 

640
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,440
And the day before? 
Yeah. 

641
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,080
And the day before. 
I'm beginning to look like an 

642
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,240
egg. 
Listen, it isn't. 

643
00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:03,120
Even my turn to cook the 
breakfast, It's Joes. 

644
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,640
Well then why doesn't? 
Joe Cook it. 

645
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,280
She did bacon and sausages. 
Do you want? 

646
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,720
To eat it. 
Just for change, How about to 

647
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:12,360
mix? 
Do you like cooking? 

648
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,200
We don't. 
Listen, it's part of the 

649
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:16,000
female's function to. 
Provide food. 

650
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:17,680
So where do you think these eggs
came from? 

651
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,360
A rooster. 
I'm not a male chauvinist. 

652
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:21,120
I think you are. 
But. 

653
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,880
What do you know about it? 
You're only a woman. 

654
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,200
Honestly, I have nothing to do 
with men if they weren't the 

655
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,200
opposite sex. 
Look. 

656
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,320
When are you going to fix the 
lock on that door? 

657
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,120
No, I'll get around to it. 
I'll tell you what. 

658
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,040
Tell you what, I'll put that 
bolt on that door. 

659
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,280
What? 
Bolt well. 

660
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,640
The one from your bedroom door, 
you know, I can quite easily 

661
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,560
unscrew it and. 
You leave that where it is. 

662
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,080
All right, all right. 
If it gives you the illusion of 

663
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,880
safety. 
Illusion another three feet and 

664
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:52,360
my tunnel is completed. 
You know they've they've they've

665
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:58,280
ramped up the is it, is it A2 
sided sexual attraction? 

666
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,920
I think it is between Robin and 
Chrissy. 

667
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,480
Oh yes, this. 
This is one of the things that 

668
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:08,160
they get very close to 
consummating their relationship,

669
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:09,480
but. 
They don't get all backwards. 

670
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,640
They get they. 
They get closer than they ever 

671
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,720
did in the TV series. 
Yeah. 

672
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:22,040
And Joe and and Larry come back 
from the disastrous date, 

673
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,720
interrupting Robin. 
And it seems that like why? 

674
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:28,160
Well you've been interrupted 
once, Robin. 

675
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,040
So that's it. 
Don't ever mention again. 

676
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,600
OK, I'm first mutual attraction.
It it it no longer counts 

677
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,720
apparently. 
Tyler, you you may have to 

678
00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:42,120
referee here, OK? 
Because it's going to be in the 

679
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,920
nicest possible way. 
There's going to be slight 

680
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,840
disagreement between myself and 
till here because I'm going to 

681
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,760
say till that they actually got 
closer to, you know, the the 

682
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,960
business. 
I'm doing that that business 

683
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,040
when me first just know you 
can't see it, but you know. 

684
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:00,840
Exactly. 
Yes. 

685
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,920
Yeah. 
You remember the episode where 

686
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,560
there's a mouse running around 
the house? 

687
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,960
Yes, yes. 
And I mean, Robin is, is, is 

688
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,680
inches away from actually, you 
know, getting into to Chrissy's 

689
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,000
bed at that point. 
OK, that's corrected. 

690
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,720
And it's only a rogue mouse trap
that catches them in an 

691
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:30,360
unfortunate place that's paid to
his endeavour. 

692
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:35,200
No, I I I will bow to your 
superior knowledge. 

693
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:40,200
Because yeah, when it comes to 
the text of all these sitcoms, 

694
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:44,480
Gary usually knows more than I 
do. 

695
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,280
Except when it comes to the 
upper hand. 

696
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,600
Now OK, are we going to address 
this? 

697
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,800
Because I don't think the the 
good I. 

698
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,720
Said there was an upper hand 
that contained a parody, a 

699
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,800
partial parody of Quantum Leap. 
Gary did not believe me. 

700
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,240
We found it. 
We watched it. 

701
00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:06,640
And so ever since if I am 
absolutely, 100% sure and Gary 

702
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,200
is saying that that couldn't be 
the case, I say I invoke the law

703
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,200
of Quantum Leap. 
I don't think of that gives you 

704
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,480
carte blanche to just just say 
that and win any argument, 

705
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,360
although it sort of does. 
Well, no, it's it's basically 

706
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,400
it's it's like this. 
This is not the case where we 

707
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,080
agree to disagree. 
But why? 

708
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,880
Why it might We might have. 
It means that, right? 

709
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:38,720
Unless there's evidence for 
Gary's side of the argument. 

710
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,720
OK, why can I not? 
Going to just be. 

711
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:44,440
Why can't I invoke that law when
it comes to Warsaw gummage? 

712
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,480
I'm saying I'm I'm perfectly 
willing to believe you, but find

713
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,480
it first. 
Well. 

714
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,000
I don't want to sit because. 
I've heard people, I've heard 

715
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,360
people say the same thing as 
you, Gary, but it then turned 

716
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,120
out that he actually said cow 
shed. 

717
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,960
No, no, no, because because in 
the context of what I remember, 

718
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,360
the word cow shed doesn't make 
any sense. 

719
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,280
Because he couldn't have. 
Eaten it's in the country, every

720
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,000
other structures. 
A cow shed, surely. 

721
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,240
I'm going to have to do it on. 
I'm going to have to like time 

722
00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:20,880
off and sit and watch every 
bloody episode of Water Gummage 

723
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,560
not find it and think. 
Or maybe Water Gummage down 

724
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,160
under and watch all of that as 
well and still not find it. 

725
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,360
But didn't you? 
But hang on, Gary, you say it in

726
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,480
the context. 
Yeah, he he couldn't, he 

727
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,080
couldn't have said cow shed. 
Yeah, like black tilts at every 

728
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,520
other building is a cow shed. 
Nobody. 

729
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:38,200
Nobody. 
He wasn't. 

730
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,600
There was never any possibility 
that wasn't going to eat a cow 

731
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:43,920
shed. 
Always, yeah. 

732
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:48,440
But is it likely in a children's
television program to say what 

733
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,880
you thought? 
He said, he said to Aunt Sally, 

734
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,240
and he did say it. 
He said. 

735
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:56,360
I never ate no cow shit. 
That's what. 

736
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,720
He said I never had no cow shed.
I mean. 

737
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,720
Yeah, that's equally true. 
Yes, yeah. 

738
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,960
Oh, but he means cow shit is 
what you mean, right? 

739
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,520
No, no. 
What what I think is happening 

740
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,800
there is he is saying he has 
never eaten a cow shed, which is

741
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,920
a perfectly true statement and 
that is that is what Worzel 

742
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,720
Gummidge intends intends it to 
mean. 

743
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:24,840
Quite possibly it was half 
intended as a joke, but for for 

744
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,920
adult members of the audience to
go. 

745
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,800
We thought he said something 
different. 

746
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,120
But. 
Pertwee does have yeah previous 

747
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,760
on this in Worzel dummage 
slipping in Elizabethan swear 

748
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,880
words. 
I think he uses the word swive 

749
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,320
at one point. 
Yeah. 

750
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:45,720
Which is to engage in sexual 
Congress. 

751
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:49,960
You don't. 
It might, I don't know. 

752
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,200
You might use the Q word which 
which is which is in The 

753
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,080
Avengers assemble. 
What was that thing we watched 

754
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:04,840
where he said Tits. 
Oh, that's some sort of, yeah, 

755
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,640
that's an industrial sort of 
promo film, just to be shown to 

756
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,400
a bunch of boozy salesman for 
the new sea. 

757
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,880
Anyway, I think we could kind of
drift the topic. 

758
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,920
The woman he says that to is, 
and I can't remember her name, 

759
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,280
The lead? 
Diana Weston from. 

760
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,080
Diana Weston from. 
So all it comes full circle, 

761
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,480
yeah. 
Brilliant American list this The

762
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,680
upper hand was our version of 
Who's the Boss, Tony. 

763
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,000
Who's the Boss? 
Tony Danson. 

764
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,440
Yeah, yeah. 
I got complaints on On Diamonds 

765
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,720
TV Weekly from viewers and 
certain regions who had just 

766
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:48,000
finished watching Who's the 
Boss? 

767
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,840
And then along comes this 
British show called The Upper 

768
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,200
Hand, which looks faintly 
familiar. 

769
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,400
I've got on my notes here and 
I'm not sure why I wrote this 

770
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,280
down. 
I'm kind of regretting it now. 

771
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,000
I've written It's weird, but I'd
like to know what actually 

772
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,720
happened during the Ropers 
honeymoon. 

773
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,480
Well, didn't in the series. 
Didn't they say it was in the 

774
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,320
honeymoon was in Dunkirk? 
Oh, yes. 

775
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,880
Was in the film. 
Did they say battle in front of 

776
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,720
us? 
Was that what they? 

777
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,440
Said yeah, Mildred makes some 
reference to it being a 

778
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,120
disaster. 
Well, that. 

779
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,440
That's after George saying he 
did his duty, isn't it? 

780
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:28,240
Yes. 
Yeah. 

781
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:33,640
Yes, I mean we've seen, if you, 
if you've ever seen that, 

782
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,080
Smith's single cover, we've seen
pictures of young youth, of 

783
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,040
Joyce George's punching well 
above his weight. 

784
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,880
Oh yeah. 
Until if if we did know more 

785
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,120
about the honeymoon, do you 
think that that would have 

786
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,920
involved the word flax it at 
some point? 

787
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,600
Yes, quite. 
Possibly. 

788
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,840
Hey, what is this? 
Hang on, you think it's flex it 

789
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,440
it's flaccid? 
It is flaccid, but till some 

790
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,240
reason he's got an old an old. 
It's really thinks it's flaccid.

791
00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:05,080
Yeah, it's it really is quite a 
cheese parry pedantic little 

792
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,240
point. 
The the pronunciation has become

793
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,160
flaccid as in that the 
pronunciation. 

794
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,360
But originally the word was and 
if you one of those kinds of 

795
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:20,040
people and I'd like to play 
prescriptivist whenever I can 

796
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,640
because it's annoying and I like
annoying Gary, it's pronounced 

797
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,400
flaccid. 
And the reason I really stand by

798
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,200
this is there's a documentary 
about Ed Wood which is partially

799
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,720
narrated by Gary Owens. 
You're not a great voice. 

800
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,760
He has, and at one point he says
the term. 

801
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,600
Flexed rubber octopus. 
That's. 

802
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,840
Like that would not be as funny 
if he said Placid so. 

803
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,800
Yes. 
I'm going to default back to, 

804
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,160
yeah, which is, you know, also 
things like Gary says data, most

805
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,080
people say data you. 
See, I when I was a kid, when I 

806
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,680
was where I grew up, I used to 
say, I'm sure I used to say data

807
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,240
as well. 
But now I say data and I used to

808
00:44:58,240 --> 00:44:59,960
say vitamins, and now I say 
vitamins. 

809
00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:02,360
So I see vitamins, but I would 
still say data because data is 

810
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,880
correct. 
Right. 

811
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:10,400
You see this vitamins here? 
So I keep forgetting and using 

812
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,040
British idioms. 
Yeah, I mean vitamins should be 

813
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,440
the correct, the correct term 
because it comes from vital 

814
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,440
amines, so. 
So from the etymology it should 

815
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,880
it should be vitamins in the 
same way that from the 

816
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:27,360
etymology, flaccid or flaccid 
should be flaccid, flaccid 

817
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,480
because it's from Flacco to 
Latin. 

818
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,520
So yeah, for once, for once, the
American pronunciation is 

819
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,640
correct there. 
We've got we've got 3 entries 

820
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,600
now, FLACID, BLACID and BLACCID.
Is that right? 

821
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,200
Yeah, the the the English 
pronunciation was originally 

822
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,040
flac flaccid, but it comes from 
the Latin Flacco. 

823
00:45:47,240 --> 00:45:50,080
But I think we can all agree 
that whatever pronunciation you 

824
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,040
prefer of the word George Roper 
is. 

825
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,000
A limp noodle, Yeah. 
Only when it comes to Mildred. 

826
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:04,640
Yeah. 
Here's here's another word that 

827
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,160
I've only. 
I think I've only ever seen it 

828
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,960
written down. 
I've don't think I've ever said 

829
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,560
it before. 
So I might get it might get the 

830
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,760
pronunciation wrong. 
Olia genus. 

831
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:12,720
That's correct. 
Yeah. 

832
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:16,880
Genus, Olia, Genus. 
And I'm attaching that word to 

833
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,600
the actor Peter Salia. 
Yes, not Peter Sellers. 

834
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:25,120
Peter Sellers, listeners Peter 
Salia, Do we want to talk about 

835
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,920
Peter Salia who turns up in this
film as the What is he? 

836
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:35,400
There's the What is he? 
But he he's he's the agent for 

837
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,320
the for the villain, isn't he? 
But he he he's the one who has 

838
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,960
to go around persuading 
everybody to have the houses 

839
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,240
bought and knocked down. 
That's it. 

840
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,040
Because that's, that's the plot 
of the film. 

841
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,520
Yeah, this, this is that the 
Victorian terrace that the 

842
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,440
Ropers house is, is, is, is on 
is. 

843
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,120
They're trying to buy it up and 
knock it down and and put up an 

844
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,280
office block. 
It's a fairly standard movie 

845
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,880
plot, isn't it? 
They're going to pull down the 

846
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,320
old something. 
Let's hold club together and 

847
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,600
prevent it. 
Yeah, the whole thing is very, 

848
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,000
very structured, like like a 
late 50s, early 60s thing, isn't

849
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,040
it? 
The other thing I was thinking 

850
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,200
is the running around the TV 
studio at the end is very much 

851
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,000
that that kind of standard 
standards. 

852
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,760
You know, maybe think of for 
example, oh, it's tried that, 

853
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,600
you know an excuse to get a 
load, get a load of characters, 

854
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,480
a load of famous faces together.
Because we we have to, we have 

855
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,600
to go into the TV studio where 
they all are. 

856
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:38,600
It's all building blocks of that
kind, that kind of programmer 

857
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,560
from the from the 50s and stuff,
isn't it? 

858
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,320
Great segue there Andrew because
later this year there's going to

859
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,040
be some bonus episodes of 
Goompod dropping in, which 

860
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,000
myself and guests will be 
talking about just general 

861
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,360
British comedy films, 40s, 
fifties, 60s, seventies, 80s 

862
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,600
onwards. 
And Andrew has agreed. 

863
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,400
You have agreed, Andrew. 
It's on record now it's on tape 

864
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,080
that at some point he's going to
come on and join me to talk 

865
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,000
about the aforementioned. 
It's tried. 

866
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,560
Dead I've. 
Completely forgotten that said 

867
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,400
that but that makes that makes 
sense I'm I'm up for that I mean

868
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,720
and that does have a goon 
connection because Richard 

869
00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:16,280
Lester obviously so. 
Yes, of course. 

870
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,960
We first acquired the taste for 
it in a little bar near the 

871
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,280
Acropolis. 
Oh, yes. 

872
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,600
Yeah, he's Bump is about the 
ancient Greeks, but it's such a 

873
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,560
marvelous civilization. 
It's so. 

874
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,800
So civilized. 
True, true. 

875
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,800
The friendship of an older man 
for a lad was not misunderstood 

876
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,320
and frowned upon. 
Quite. 

877
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,840
I think that Nigel here has 
rather the look of an Apollo 

878
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,280
about him. 
Yes, yes. 

879
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:45,040
You know, the Michelangelo 
Apollo put that statue on a 

880
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,480
motorbike and it's Nigel to a 
team. 

881
00:48:49,240 --> 00:48:51,600
Quite. 
And it's still a glorious 

882
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,920
country today. 
The the wine, the sunshine, the 

883
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,480
music. 
Do you like the bazooka? 

884
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,360
Nah, I prefer the Yamaha super 
bike. 

885
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,640
His witch is a constant delight.
Peter. 

886
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,200
Sally. 
What do we know him from? 

887
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,000
Yes, Minister. 
Yes. 

888
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,400
Is that it? 
Mary Linden, Is he Mary Linden? 

889
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,600
Yeah, yeah. 
Only a Smallville, but he's in 

890
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,000
there. 
He's been in everything though. 

891
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,120
But but yes, minister is the 
thing that the thing that 

892
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,120
everybody recognized him from, 
he was the permanent secretary 

893
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,560
to the Treasury and that's his 
opposite number. 

894
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:31,000
Yeah. 
Yeah, here's the strange 

895
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:36,480
instances at a tad a typical 
casting not 100 million miles 

896
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,520
away. 
But he plays effectively a sort 

897
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:45,360
of ticket tote A spiff and good 
night sweetheart when he 

898
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,000
explains to to. 
Because Gary realizes that 

899
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,080
you're supposed to have a ticket
to to be underground during the 

900
00:49:52,240 --> 00:49:56,880
the the bombing. 
And Celia is there and just 

901
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,240
coincidentally happens to have, 
you know a couple of briefs to 

902
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:03,000
spare. 
And Gary immediately says, hey, 

903
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,560
you're a spiff, aren't you? 
And he said they're still 

904
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:11,160
playing it in not too dissimilar
fashion, but he's like a bit 

905
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,600
more rough around the edges. 
He's like it reminds me a little

906
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:19,920
bit of Donald Syndon in the film
of father, dear father, what 

907
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,240
he's like he's still sort of you
OK. 

908
00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:26,800
He's he's got all the the lingo 
and what have you could pass for

909
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,440
for for being cultured and what 
have you. 

910
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:33,000
But actually he, you know he's 
yeah, the black sheep of the 

911
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,080
family. 
You know, sort of associates 

912
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,200
with the the the wrong people. 
Brings us on to Miss Bird. 

913
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,880
Who's that? 
Who's Who's exemplifies that 70s

914
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,200
British comedy trope of the 
raging nympho? 

915
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,560
Now OK now that again this this 
is going to come back to the the

916
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:57,040
the precise use of the the words
but I would obviously waving 

917
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,960
lymphoma cell and you're going 
for raging now raging suggests 

918
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,720
is a little bit more anger in 
there and and our lymphosity is 

919
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:09,560
that what nymphosity. 
Nymphosity. 

920
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:12,320
Yeah, I just I've I've just 
invented that water. 

921
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:15,280
It's now. 
Yeah. 

922
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:20,080
It's it is interesting though 
that she's not like sexually 

923
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:24,800
aggressive. 
She seems very dainty and and 

924
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:31,560
pleasant and Robin's fear of her
seems rather unusual. 

925
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:36,000
And also we we've also that kind
of raises an issue with Larry's 

926
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,280
complaining about not getting 
any. 

927
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,320
Yes. 
And yet all he needs to do is. 

928
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:43,760
Knock on the door 2 doors. 
Down. 

929
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,080
He's going to pull him in and 
give him a damn good scene, too.

930
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:50,080
Let's There's no two ways about 
it, and the implication is, is 

931
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,760
that Peter Celia is at least on 
the receiving end of a damn good

932
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:59,760
swiping. 
See. 

933
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,720
OK. 
Well, like, likewise, George, 

934
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,600
yeah, you know. 
OK, I can understand George 

935
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:11,160
because, you know, if Mildred 
finds out, then she he's going 

936
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:13,480
to be guilded. 
I I think, I think George is 

937
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,960
scared of anything actually 
happening in real life is the 

938
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,240
thing. 
I think. 

939
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,400
I think George is a man who 
lives in his fantasies and would

940
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,960
be terrified with of any actual 
real woman. 

941
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,840
I. 
Don't think that she would be 

942
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,720
keen on Larry because Larry 
would be would be too eager. 

943
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,080
I think that she think he was a 
bit sort of you know, oh where's

944
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,720
he been? 
You know, you don't know where 

945
00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:36,200
he was last night, that kind of 
thing. 

946
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,440
Tyler, do you remember what you 
said the end of the scene when 

947
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,840
he just said there finally 
manages to escape captivity for 

948
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:49,720
about 3 days or so and the the 
Boy Scout runs up the stairs and

949
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:54,080
in the film she just says no, 
you can come back next year. 

950
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,840
You had an alternative scenario 
for that. 

951
00:52:57,720 --> 00:52:59,920
Oh yeah, I thought that scout 
should have been played by 

952
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:01,800
Ruxton Haywood. 
It would have been. 

953
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,400
We're going to take in the film 
about different direction. 

954
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,000
How much screen time does he get
in films? 

955
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:18,760
Does he get like 20 minutes? 
20 minutes wouldn't need that 

956
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:23,800
log. 
Should he go in with his, you 

957
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:29,640
know, typical his voice, which 
is sort of up here, not quite 

958
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:34,800
sound like people, and then when
he comes out, sounds like 

959
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,200
Valentine dial. 
With a pipe on the game. 

960
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,800
Yeah, of course. 
We see. 

961
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,200
It's it's the scene where we see
we see Mike first of all, Mike 

962
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,440
Baldwin. 
Well, what was he called? 

963
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,720
Johnny Berks? 
Yeah, as a milkman and Bill 

964
00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:52,000
Poetry as a postman. 
And. 

965
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,600
And they're both Lincoln. 
You miss him really, aren't 

966
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:55,360
they? 
Yeah. 

967
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,400
Funny thing about Johnny Briggs 
is that Johnny Briggs sounds 

968
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,360
like a made-up name, but Mike 
Baldwin doesn't. 

969
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,880
Yeah, I think possibly the kids 
TV show called Johnny Briggs. 

970
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:06,200
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

971
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,840
Yeah, maybe it's the Johnny 
Element, I think if if he was 

972
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,200
just credited as John Briggs. 
Yeah, yeah. 

973
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,360
And nobody, nobody blink and I 
would they I. 

974
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,920
Can't find IMDB's no help, but I
know Ruxton Harewood appeared in

975
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,360
at least one movie, but I saw a 
brief clip of. 

976
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,000
He also appeared on Sky Star 
Search, did he not? 

977
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,480
Did he? 
Yes, Till when we were. 

978
00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:31,720
When we see, we see Arthur Lowe.
I mean the the peerless Arthur 

979
00:54:31,720 --> 00:54:36,960
Lowe, who it seemed like he 
appeared in most British films 

980
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,520
in the 1970s. 
Really, if you think about it. 

981
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,680
I know he didn't. 
But it's what it feels like of. 

982
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:48,360
Course, Lindsay Anderson thought
very highly of men at one point.

983
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:53,320
He's actually, he's actually 
more dark and sinister in this 

984
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,000
than he is an all lucky man. 
Frankly. 

985
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,240
He doesn't play it as an Arthur 
Law type. 

986
00:55:01,240 --> 00:55:04,520
He's not the Leonard Swinney nor
George Mannering. 

987
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:09,280
He's he's very straight and 
quite sinister. 

988
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:14,600
He's a ruthlessness to him. 
He would have been a good hunter

989
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:17,440
and. 
Yes, yes. 

990
00:55:17,720 --> 00:55:21,200
He would have been but you 
thought he he he should have put

991
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:26,000
because he plays a character in 
this the what's he called Spiros

992
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:28,000
who owns this building firm. 
Yeah. 

993
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,920
Owns this building firm and and 
you you you thought he he 

994
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,080
perhaps he should have played as
he played the character in oh 

995
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:40,200
Lucky Man. 
I I, I refuse to be drawn on 

996
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,960
this because that makes it sound
like a advocate for blackface. 

997
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:49,200
And I don't know that you'll get
to be cancelled. 

998
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:53,640
Man. 
Morris, you know I've always 

999
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,800
liked you. 
Don't say that, Sir. 

1000
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,920
But I've been asked to appear on
television this evening to 

1001
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:02,600
defend our. 
Your Middleton Terrace 

1002
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,280
development? 
Not an easy task, Sir. 

1003
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,880
No, no. 
That's why I'm not going to do 

1004
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,200
it. 
Why? 

1005
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:11,400
Why? 
Why? 

1006
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,520
You are and. 
You will disarm any criticism of

1007
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,600
the project. 
How? 

1008
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,400
By telling them it is cancelled,
It's been. 

1009
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,760
But why? 
On environmental and moral 

1010
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:32,240
grounds, a sincere gesture to 
public opinion, and because a 

1011
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:35,640
certain incompetent I was unable
to knock down all six houses 

1012
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,480
before a preservation order was 
planted on them. 

1013
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:41,840
If. 
If I was able to get all the 

1014
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,600
houses, I I could still live 
6:00. 

1015
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,440
Tonight, Maurice, I'll be 
watching. 

1016
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:55,960
And should my name come up? 
Don't forget to stress that I 

1017
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,160
give a lot to charities 
anonymously. 

1018
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,440
Children's charity. 
No, no. 

1019
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:05,920
Breaking dogs. 
What? 

1020
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:13,520
What were we talking about? 
George Rupert's plums because it

1021
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,200
always, always leads back to 
that, in a way. 

1022
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:20,120
Yeah, Speaking of that, then, 
how often does George defy 

1023
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:21,520
Mildred? 
And why does he think he's going

1024
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:22,520
to get away with it every? 
Time. 

1025
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,080
OK, first of all, I thought you 
were going to say how? 

1026
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:25,440
Often does George. 
Get it? 

1027
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:29,760
How often has he actually done 
it? 

1028
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:38,000
I mean, nobody kept going. 
He doesn't defy, OK, defy her in

1029
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,280
a way. 
That is he's actually saying I'm

1030
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,680
going to be man of this house 
and so on. 

1031
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,360
I think he kept those on one 
hand. 

1032
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:48,160
But the number of times he does 
it behind her back and usually 

1033
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,400
when Roy can hear Jetty is 
involved and then he's here. 

1034
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:52,960
Yeah. 
Jet needs to do something. 

1035
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,200
Yeah, there's a few more of 
those instances, but of course 

1036
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:00,280
you got was gets found out. 
People watching this film in the

1037
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,840
cinema, you know in the back in 
the day, they'll have seen we we

1038
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,880
may as well come to him now. 
They'll have seen Spike's name 

1039
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,400
in the opening credits and 
they're waiting for him to turn 

1040
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,240
up and they're thinking perhaps 
he's going to turn up as a 

1041
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,720
Indian waiter or Irish tramp 
something like that. 

1042
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:21,960
And and no he we see him 
probably about well 10 minutes 

1043
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,120
from the end he's he's got his 
own dressing room at Thames 

1044
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:31,800
Television and he comes out and 
and and clearly baffles George 

1045
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,840
Roper with this stream of 
consciousness. 

1046
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,080
And he's wearing as I have 
pointed out before and it was 

1047
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:43,040
actually first pointed out to me
by friend of the show Chris 

1048
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,720
Diamond. 
He's wearing the the exact same 

1049
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,120
jumper that he wore for the 
recording of the last goon 

1050
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,360
shovel. 
So clearly a man who's, you 

1051
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:57,680
know, close to a pound note his 
bike, but what do we make of 

1052
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,280
his? 
His clearly improvised a couple 

1053
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:07,440
of scenes in this film. 
It's all that a film of from 

1054
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,600
particularly from this era that 
has Spec Milliken in it and he's

1055
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,440
playing himself and it looks 
like he's got license to, you 

1056
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,240
know just go off in one. 
His appearance is one of the 

1057
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:24,000
least problematic in terms of 
the various in this part. 

1058
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,320
Yeah, no, his his part doesn't 
require any editing at all, 

1059
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:32,520
whereas we already touched on 
Love My neighbor and Julian 

1060
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,440
Orchard calling one of the 
cameramen a tip man. 

1061
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,000
I think that probably gets 
removed these days as well. 

1062
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,320
And of course, Bill. 
Bill Grundy, a couple of years 

1063
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,160
away from his night event for 
me. 

1064
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,200
Well, the famous thing is, is 
that the six pistols appeared on

1065
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:56,280
the Today program because Queen 
were unavailable. 

1066
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,680
Freddie had gone to the dentist 
and obviously that was going to 

1067
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:04,080
take a couple of weeks. 
So I just think I would rather 

1068
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:08,280
have seen Bill Grundy 
interviewing Queen because I 

1069
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,840
think when it comes to foul 
language and being insulted, he 

1070
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:17,520
he could kind of summon up the 
right anger and could handle 

1071
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,360
that. 
But the idea of him having to 

1072
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,360
handle Freddie Mercury? 
Possibly flirting with him? 

1073
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,640
I think making squirm a great 
deal more. 

1074
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,040
Can I just mention Norman 
Mitchell's epaulets? 

1075
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,280
Oh. 
Yes, I have the film playing on 

1076
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,560
my tablet while we're doing this
just in case there's to bring 

1077
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,000
anything. 
And I just noticed that he he is

1078
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:45,400
a security guard and his 
epilepse have a metallic Thames 

1079
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:46,640
on them. 
Yes. 

1080
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:51,880
My goodness, I'd like some of 
some of those, just to be good. 

1081
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:55,120
Beautifully next to my Yorkshire
television cufflinks. 

1082
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,960
Yes, you do have those. 
Can distinctly hear the 

1083
01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:01,720
trembling in your voice as you 
said that too. 

1084
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,280
Absolutely. 
A man needs hobbies. 

1085
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,560
So I want to talk about Spike 
Milligan as a media brand 

1086
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,000
because I'm thinking Spike's 
appearance in this is very 

1087
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,080
similar to his appearance in The
Goon Show. 

1088
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,960
I'm just wondering if that's 
kind of, it's not, it's not like

1089
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,840
I'm making a claim of deliberate
eccentricity, but I'm thinking 

1090
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,800
Spike is playing up to certain 
aspects of his personality. 

1091
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:33,080
Yeah, deliberately. 
And is that kind of his way of 

1092
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:37,040
handling, You know, sometimes 
people are not comfortable being

1093
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,360
themselves. 
And it brings me back to Brian 

1094
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:45,560
Murphy's hairpiece. 
Yeah, because one theory I'd had

1095
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:49,240
is that maybe Brian Murphy wore 
the hairpiece so that he could 

1096
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:53,760
put a cord on sanitaire between 
Brian Murphy, the actor and 

1097
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,280
George Roper. 
So when he's appearing on a 

1098
01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:01,320
show, he's just gone there. 
And James Villiers, who appeared

1099
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:05,760
on a call my bluff and had a bit
of a panic beforehand because he

1100
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,520
didn't know how to be himself. 
And so he arranged for the 

1101
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,760
wardrobe department to get him a
mustache. 

1102
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:14,800
And he could put on the mustache
and pretend that he was playing 

1103
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:18,360
a part called James Villiers, 
who just happened to be an actor

1104
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,120
with a mustache. 
But he wasn't being himself. 

1105
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,320
Well, that that's just like 
Sellers. 

1106
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,920
When he would put on the German 
army helmet. 

1107
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,680
Yeah, he was on chat shows. 
Yeah, I think putting on a 

1108
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:33,680
mustache is more elegant 
solution. 

1109
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,600
It would have raised questions 
on call my bluffer have been no 

1110
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:43,560
context off Robert Robinson just
yeah, we're all aware of the 

1111
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,440
elephant in the room. 
Let's let's just not speak about

1112
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:49,280
this. 
Stop with you hit me or you go 

1113
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,720
blind. 
Excuse me. 

1114
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,000
Who are you? 
Mr. Roper. 

1115
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:55,880
What a good memory you've got. 
Oh, thank you. 

1116
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:57,880
Look, I'm. 
I'm looking for today. 

1117
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,440
Today, this is today. 
It's here with us all day today.

1118
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:01,800
No, No. 
No. 

1119
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,240
All day today. 
Even if you're standing on it, 

1120
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:05,840
all these walls are today. 
No, I mean this general 

1121
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,080
direction. 
It's all in the general 

1122
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:07,720
direction today. 
No. 

1123
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:13,520
Studio Studio 373, Yes. 
Straight up here. 

1124
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:19,120
Left and left again, left the 
game and then left the game. 

1125
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:20,520
Yeah. 
And I'll be there. 

1126
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,600
No, you'll be back here, but by 
then somebody might be here who 

1127
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:34,000
knows away. 
So look, we've dispensed with 

1128
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:39,040
Spike fairly quickly, but he he 
doesn't, he doesn't add a lot, 

1129
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,160
He doesn't take away anything. 
He's just a nice little. 

1130
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:42,640
Woman, I think he does add 
something. 

1131
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:47,400
I think just disappearance, just
so it's it's a thing. 

1132
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:55,280
When you're extending A sitcom 
to feature length, there is the 

1133
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:59,440
whole issue of plot, character 
and gags. 

1134
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:04,000
And sometimes, you know, you 
might, there might be a 

1135
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,000
temptation to expand upon 
character at the expense of plot

1136
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:09,800
and gags. 
Gags might come less. 

1137
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,200
That's the problem if you have 
all this time to play with. 

1138
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,640
But man, about the House is 
really successful, not just in 

1139
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,440
jokes arising from the 
situation, but sometimes it's 

1140
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,200
just like jokes just sort of 
stuffed in there. 

1141
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:30,840
There's, there's an exchange 
about, oh, you know, it's the 

1142
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:35,080
Prime Minister spoke in the 
Commons for 90 minutes and said,

1143
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,800
oh, what was he talking about? 
I don't know. 

1144
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,760
He didn't say yes. 
Well, that's just, you know, 

1145
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:43,800
that's just the gag. 
It's it's nothing really to do 

1146
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,120
with anything. 
It can be slipped in because of 

1147
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:51,320
Patrick Neal's character being 
an MP, but it's not really 

1148
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:56,920
integral to the thing. 
But it keeps the mood aloft and 

1149
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:01,160
that's an important thing to I I
sometimes use the first say 

1150
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,560
there are there are jokes that 
just keep the mood aloft and 

1151
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:08,400
there are load bearing jokes. 
These are the jokes that you 

1152
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:12,760
know are it's they they have a 
beautiful intersection between 

1153
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:19,320
plot character and being a gag. 
Yeah, but they're also have to 

1154
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:25,640
be ones that just make things 
funny and this is full of those 

1155
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,160
things. 
So there's a gag about, you 

1156
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:33,280
know, the girls Larry's talking 
about Robin, you know, be be 

1157
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:39,120
having a flat with two birds or 
and Robin said yeah, but they 

1158
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:43,560
put a bolt on the door. 
Now I have difficulty getting 

1159
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:51,080
out but a fine bit of mood 
gaggery and of course 

1160
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:56,160
excellently delivered this. 
This is really putting aside all

1161
01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:00,360
the cameos. 
This is a really great cast. 

1162
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:07,440
Everybody just delivers things 
exactly right. 

1163
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:11,320
Yeah, they're they're lovable 
when they need to be. 

1164
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:17,400
And it's it's a situation where 
I think the script is as good as

1165
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:21,400
the wonderful performances. 
If you want to see something 

1166
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,840
where the script is not as good 
as the performances, look at 

1167
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,680
mind your language, which is a 
really fantastic cast. 

1168
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:30,360
Yeah, And the jokes do not rise 
to the occasion. 

1169
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,360
Yeah, I don't like Barry Evans. 
No, I don't like his performance

1170
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:39,640
in Mind your language. 
He he seems to have a very 

1171
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:46,760
unrealistic expectations of the 
English language abilities of 

1172
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,480
people who are there to learn 
English and gets annoyed when 

1173
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:54,000
they make elementary errors. 
Yeah, and there's absolutely 

1174
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,000
zero logic. 
Well, it might be complaint. 

1175
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:58,840
No. 
You know what, Let's put that to

1176
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,840
one side might do mind your 
language. 

1177
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,240
That's I did. 
We did say I want to do mind 

1178
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:08,120
your language properly with tons
of research, so I will not say 

1179
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:09,680
anything anymore about that. 
Well. 

1180
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,640
You're just talking about the 
cast of this film or man, about 

1181
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,320
the house in general. 
We've, I don't think we've 

1182
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,760
mentioned Paula Wilcox, really, 
have we? 

1183
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,160
No, no. 
You see, she's the straightest 

1184
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,080
character. 
She doesn't have really a 

1185
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:24,200
character. 
King. 

1186
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,080
Yeah. 
And it might be a thankless 

1187
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,080
test, but yeah, she's wonderful.
Yeah, she's she's brilliant in 

1188
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,080
this and and in the series as a 
whole. 

1189
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:38,640
But yeah, she and she is the 
she, she has the the least odd 

1190
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,640
character. 
Although you you, you do have 

1191
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,880
the in this, the the whole 
having been taught out to doubt,

1192
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,880
to trick people, do card tricks 
and stuff that thing you know. 

1193
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:53,360
Which, yeah, yes, Chrissy is 
very convincing. 

1194
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,840
Shuffling card hands. 
Shuffling cards. 

1195
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,320
Yes, with. 
With at No, no point do you see 

1196
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,640
the rest of Paula Wilcox? 
Well, well, like we got to be. 

1197
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,480
Shuffled. 
It's like, it's like whenever 

1198
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,400
they have a scene of someone 
playing snooker. 

1199
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,920
Well, yeah. 
Films with TV like it's Steptoe 

1200
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,840
and in the film Sleuth. 
Yeah. 

1201
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,360
It's it's always the same guy, 
isn't it? 

1202
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,040
It's so it's, it's, it was a 
Gary. 

1203
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:21,080
There was some retired snooker 
player that used to be 

1204
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:27,080
constantly being employed on 
films and TV shows to to play 

1205
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,080
shots of snooker. 
I can place his name just now, 

1206
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,040
so I'm going to substitute it 
for Corbett Woodall. 

1207
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:41,800
Butch Corbett Woodall. 
Now, did Butch Corbett Wardle 

1208
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,680
ever play he he played himself 
in an episode of Q. 

1209
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:47,840
Well, that's where the Butch 
thing comes from. 

1210
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,800
Yeah, I mean, we've got Bill 
Grandy in here. 

1211
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:52,479
Bill Grandy in this film playing
himself. 

1212
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:56,279
What other instances of TV 
presenters playing themselves on

1213
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:59,200
on in films and TV? 
Ludovic, Kennedy and Yes 

1214
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:04,840
Minister. 
And Michael Barrett in Goodies. 

1215
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:06,160
Goodies. 
Yes, yeah. 

1216
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,840
Kenneth Kendall in Doctor Who. 
Yes. 

1217
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,880
Oh, original bosun kit in Monty 
Python. 

1218
01:09:14,279 --> 01:09:19,240
Yep. 
Oh, and Kenneth, what's Richard 

1219
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:20,600
Baker Baker? 
Richard Baker? 

1220
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,399
Yeah, Lemon Curry. 
Yeah, I'm Angela. 

1221
01:09:23,399 --> 01:09:27,960
Ripping on the mock more wise. 
Yeah, I was thinking of that, 

1222
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,960
that particular sort of, I'm 
thinking mid 80s because there 

1223
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:36,040
was a little bit of a call of of
BBC News readers early 80s and 

1224
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:40,160
so some of the older ones were 
retired and read about that 

1225
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,520
period. 
Then you just saw them popping 

1226
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,319
up all over the place as news 
reader whenever a news reader 

1227
01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:47,279
was required. 
There was. 

1228
01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:49,640
Still, there was still recent 
enough that people would 

1229
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:54,320
associate them with that role. 
Robert Dukel doing the Reader's 

1230
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,600
Digest commercials. 
I went on for a while, remember.

1231
01:09:57,960 --> 01:09:59,680
You know what? 
I should mention that the same 

1232
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,520
Doctor Who started with Kenneth 
Kendall also has Dwight Wiley, I

1233
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,840
think was Britain's first black 
black news reader. 

1234
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,240
Yeah, he was a he was a radio 
announcer in the 60s. 

1235
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:17,560
Oh, and of course, John Snag 
has, yeah, paid as himself. 

1236
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,760
Well, yeah, it brings us back to
the pistols. 

1237
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,280
Of course some somebody will 
know this straight away, but 

1238
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,880
what's not on Radio 4 sitcom 
that had Peter Donaldson in it 

1239
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:29,720
frequently? 
Well. 

1240
01:10:30,440 --> 01:10:33,480
Didn't didn't he used to do the 
the links on Look back at the 

1241
01:10:33,480 --> 01:10:38,840
90s which then became look back 
at the future, the whole shtick 

1242
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:42,120
and look back at the 90s was 
that it was like looking back at

1243
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:46,440
years that hadn't happened yet 
with satirical results. 

1244
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:53,000
Because the BBC at one point 
they they they cottoned on to 

1245
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:56,640
this idea of playing the look 
back at the 90s for a particular

1246
01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:01,080
year on New Year's Eve. 
You know so they'd played look 

1247
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:05,400
back at 1995 on the 31st of 
December 1994. 

1248
01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:10,440
I kind of this is like being 
trapped in a lift with us, isn't

1249
01:11:10,440 --> 01:11:11,320
it? 
I'm sure. 

1250
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,000
Can I just say for reasons later
this year I'm going to be 

1251
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,320
talking about briefly, very, 
very briefly talking about look 

1252
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:26,120
back at the future. 
Fantastic, great. 

1253
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,480
There are always these radio 
shows that only I seem to 

1254
01:11:28,480 --> 01:11:33,200
remember, like Star Turk 2. 
Does anybody remember Elastic 

1255
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,560
Planet? 
Oh. 

1256
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:37,240
That was so. 
No, I didn't know. 

1257
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,360
No, I'm. 
I am going to invoke quantum 

1258
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:40,640
leap rule. 
No. 

1259
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,280
That was a lovely little series.
It just still turns up on radio 

1260
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,040
for extra. 
I've been there and then and it 

1261
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:46,520
was some. 
What's his name? 

1262
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:48,760
So old Postgate was a narrator 
of it. 

1263
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:54,280
Yes. 
We haven't mentioned either Cook

1264
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:55,880
and Mortimer, of course. 
Yes. 

1265
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,720
So Brian Cook and Johnny 
Mortimer. 

1266
01:11:59,960 --> 01:12:00,360
Yes. 
Yeah. 

1267
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:05,000
Yeah, two of the sharpest script
writers of the period, Yeah. 

1268
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,840
And it is telling that this, 
like you said right at the 

1269
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,360
outset, the sitcom man about the
house sitcom is still being 

1270
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,760
shown today. 
It's and Georgia Mildred and 

1271
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,760
they are dated in terms of the 
fashions and whatnot, but still 

1272
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:24,360
remarkably fresh, yeah, in terms
of the the dialogue and 

1273
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,240
everything. 
And the other interesting thing 

1274
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,960
about them is that unlike most 
of the American TV adaptations 

1275
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:33,080
of sitcoms at the time, they 
when, when, when it, when it was

1276
01:12:33,440 --> 01:12:35,600
brought over to America, when it
became full house and stuff, 

1277
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:39,240
they just kept the same scripts 
basically, you know, the the 

1278
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,160
there were mild edits, but it 
wasn't. 

1279
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,160
It wasn't. 
We'll keep the premise, but 

1280
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,560
throw away the scripts. 
It was we will, we will remake, 

1281
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,000
we will remake these scripts 
because they're good enough. 

1282
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:54,560
They work very well, cross 
culturally, cross temporally in 

1283
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,120
a way a lot of other comedy 
doesn't. 

1284
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,720
A lot. 
A lot of comedy is very tied to 

1285
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:02,800
a specific place in time, and 
that stuff isn't really in a in 

1286
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,760
a way, that's surprising. 
Yeah, do you did the when did 

1287
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,040
the ropers spin off, did they 
utilize a lot of the Georgia 

1288
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,680
Mildred scripts? 
There are, there are some, there

1289
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:16,000
are some which are adaptations, 
but I'm trying to. 

1290
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:17,880
They don't entirely work though,
because. 

1291
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:21,840
Stanley and Helen are very 
different from George and 

1292
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:26,360
Mildred, yeah. 
Yeah, looking, looking at the. 

1293
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,320
Not a dragon who can put her 
foot down. 

1294
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:33,120
Yeah, looking at the Wikipedia 
entry for the for the Ropers, 

1295
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:37,480
the first the first six episodes
were adaptations of George and 

1296
01:13:37,480 --> 01:13:41,520
Mildred episodes, and then the 
the 28 after weren't, so they 

1297
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:43,040
clear. 
They clearly moved away from 

1298
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,960
that. 
I don't remember seeing George 

1299
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,160
Roper ever holding it. 
No, I was. 

1300
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,120
Going to. 
I was going to say they've got 

1301
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:55,800
they've got like a communal hot 
tub in their place and they were

1302
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,320
behind. 
George never would have, I mean 

1303
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,480
he would have you know if he had
the chance to to hang out with 

1304
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:06,440
the the sexy neighbors. 
But yeah, I mean, you wouldn't 

1305
01:14:06,440 --> 01:14:10,640
get hot tub in in England in the
70s, been absorbed. 

1306
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:14,000
Well, can we mention, if we're 
talking about adaptations, 

1307
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:18,640
adaptations of American sitcoms 
to Britain tend to be much less 

1308
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:20,000
successful? 
Yeah. 

1309
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:23,760
And I want to mention, there's 
like these where they didn't 

1310
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:27,800
properly adapt the scripts to a 
British idiom. 

1311
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:32,840
And so there's a party and this 
16 year old is trying to obtain 

1312
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:36,600
some beer so he can take it. 
What to his friends who were 

1313
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:45,880
hanging out in the garage. 
And it's just like he's 16 at a 

1314
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:47,480
party as well. 
Because you can. 

1315
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,400
I I didn't. 
I only found this out like very 

1316
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:54,600
recently that the the drinking 
age is enforceable at home. 

1317
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,320
Yeah. 
I saw a video of the of the 

1318
01:14:57,320 --> 01:15:01,440
American police breaking up a 
party where people under the age

1319
01:15:01,440 --> 01:15:07,280
of 21 would thinking. 
Now in the UK, if you are given 

1320
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:12,360
some alcohol, I think the age is
of the age of five, yeah, you 

1321
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,160
are allowed to give alcohol 
with. 

1322
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,800
With a meal, you know. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1323
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,920
With a meal or it's just, you 
know, at home. 

1324
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:22,080
Yes, you can. 
Yeah. 

1325
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,160
Drink. 
I I, I grew up as a child 

1326
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,880
drinking. 
I I emphasize, watered down 

1327
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:28,560
wine. 
Yeah. 

1328
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,760
So that they wanted to make sure
that, you know, alcohol wasn't 

1329
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:36,880
this this big mysterious thing. 
I could have one glass of wine 

1330
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:41,200
with water in it. 
And yes, so it's like he's 16, 

1331
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,640
he's at a party. 
It's it's that's going to be 

1332
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,000
like pinching his nose, pulling 
his mouth open and pouring an 

1333
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,760
entire party 7. 
Down there. 

1334
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,960
And people saying things like, 
yeah, like, I'm going to say 

1335
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:57,600
that. 
It's like people didn't talk 

1336
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,720
that way in Britain in the 70s 
since, no. 

1337
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:06,080
Was they saying Swindon as well?
Sorry, I spat that out. 

1338
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,320
Like Swindon's not a nice place.
They gave us the world. 

1339
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,320
XTC. 
What a wonderful town. 

1340
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:17,560
But still, Swindon, Milwaukee. 
They're kind of different. 

1341
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:26,840
Follow reading Married for Life 
and Brighton Bells. 

1342
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:28,960
Yes. 
I was thinking Brighton bells. 

1343
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,320
Yeah, Yeah. 
Of course, if you want a really 

1344
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:35,600
successful rewrite of an 
American sitcom series, two of 

1345
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,400
Porridge. 
I was just going to say yes, 

1346
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:38,440
yes. 
Sorry. 

1347
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:44,840
No, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, that. 
That's that astounded me when I 

1348
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:48,160
discovered that that for those 
who don't know, series one of 

1349
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:51,120
Porridge was made as a British 
TV series. 

1350
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:55,320
But then the writers went over 
to the States, and they they 

1351
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:57,520
made an American adaptation of 
the series. 

1352
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,120
And American seasons are much 
longer. 

1353
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:03,560
And then series two of Porridge 
in Britain was the right of the 

1354
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,080
scripts they had written for the
American adaptation of the 

1355
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:10,080
British series. 
Utterly, utterly fascinating. 

1356
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,160
You couldn't tell. 
And nobody, nobody in Britain 

1357
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,120
really knows this at all. 
And. 

1358
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,600
There was all you being served 
in Australia. 

1359
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,520
Inman playing the same 
character, yes Humphreys, and 

1360
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,560
somehow managing to pitch up in 
a department store in Australia 

1361
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:30,000
with with the same archetype. 
Is it? 

1362
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:31,960
And sometimes the same. 
Plots. 

1363
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,960
I think that the most 
problematic situation with that 

1364
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:45,600
is that they used John Edmonds 
recording of the song Are You 

1365
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,880
Being Served? 
That was on one of his albums 

1366
01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:50,640
and so. 
And are you on a copy of that 

1367
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:55,000
album? 
But, oh, I'm sure you did you 

1368
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,120
own our final as well. 
But we won't talk about that. 

1369
01:17:58,480 --> 01:18:01,640
But that means that what? 
Does that mean? 

1370
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:05,600
You can't say that token. 
You can't. 

1371
01:18:05,960 --> 01:18:09,600
There happens to be this. 
This was before all the 

1372
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:15,600
information came out. 
There happens to be a a remix of

1373
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:20,720
Indulge Jumo by Mike Oldfield 
over which some he has put an 

1374
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:28,600
impression of certain disgraced 
deceased DJ from Leeds doing it.

1375
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:33,520
Impression of him full of swear 
words and homophobia. 

1376
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:39,000
And it just so happens that I 
have the, the, the 12 inch vinyl

1377
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:43,840
copy where that comes from? 
I didn't realize it was a 12 

1378
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,320
inch. 
Oh, that's. 

1379
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:46,840
Amazing. 
Well, actually it's, it's, I 

1380
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:48,600
mean it's one of the tracks on 
the B side. 

1381
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:53,760
The air side is a remix of dirty
cash, you know, dirty cash you 

1382
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:55,800
want you. 
But they've got like samples of 

1383
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,880
money by Pink Floyd. 
So it's not, you know, it's not 

1384
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:00,200
legit. 
It's not above board. 

1385
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:04,120
And on the B side there are a 
bunch of breaks that you can use

1386
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:08,440
if you're so inclined as a DJ. 
And there is also, for some 

1387
01:19:08,440 --> 01:19:14,960
reason, a song about the 
disgraced DJ who at that time 

1388
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:20,320
was still live so. 
Yeah. 

1389
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,880
Yeah. 
Yeah, but I was, I was, I was 

1390
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,880
mentioning that the problematic 
issue with Are you being Served 

1391
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:32,560
is that Oh yeah, John Inman 
sings the opening theme. 

1392
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:37,040
And then one episode begins with
Captain Wagstaff saying, what is

1393
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,400
Mr. Humphreys? 
He's late, he isn't here yet. 

1394
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,560
And what we just saw him stood 
at the counter 2 minutes ago 

1395
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:46,920
singing his own song. 
So is it? 

1396
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:48,120
What is he a ghost now? 
Are you? 

1397
01:19:48,440 --> 01:19:51,320
Being served, Sir. 
I'm Humphreys and I'm free. 

1398
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:56,040
Are you being served, Sir? 
Would you like to see if you'd 

1399
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,080
like some swimming trunks? 
We've got them. 

1400
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,520
Plain or Scotty. 
We've also got some. 

1401
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:01,840
See through that. 
Really. 

1402
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,200
Turn. 
Your movies are gay. 

1403
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:08,080
There's plenty around the back, 
and if you'd like a bit of flesh

1404
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:12,840
then try a plastic mag. 
I'm confused. 

1405
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:16,880
And I'm free. 
What would you like to? 

1406
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:22,120
See. 
Is this going to be a 2 parter? 

1407
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:28,640
No, no, we mentioned the man 
about the house movie at least 

1408
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,000
once I think during the 
conversation. 

1409
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,920
Is there anything, is there 
anything that you want to throw 

1410
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:37,640
in that we haven't touched on 
that the? 

1411
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:39,520
Amy McDonald. 
Yes. 

1412
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,960
Yeah, the lovely Amy McDonald. 
Yes, go on then. 

1413
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:46,360
Well, she plays the typical Amy 
McDonald part. 

1414
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:50,080
Yeah. 
Of the slightly the airheaded 

1415
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:54,000
blonde that becomes one of the 
things the plot hinges on. 

1416
01:20:54,000 --> 01:21:00,880
The fact that Patrick Neal's MP 
character has a kept woman who 

1417
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:08,440
just happens to be Amy McDonald.
All right, all right. 

1418
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:09,720
Hello. 
Hello. 

1419
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,840
Hello, darling. 
The poopsie. 

1420
01:21:14,440 --> 01:21:17,600
I've been trying to ring you. 
I've been to the poodle parlor. 

1421
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:19,480
Are you coming round tonight? 
Laugh. 

1422
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:25,320
Well, it's the wife's birthday. 
Sorry. 

1423
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,800
Oh, but I've got a new gin slip 
specially. 

1424
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,280
Really. 
And it's your size. 

1425
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:40,320
Well, maybe just for 5 minutes. 
She's lovely Amy McDonald, but 

1426
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,720
would probably find her hard 
work in real life. 

1427
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:48,200
I don't know. 
I imagined that she's not that 

1428
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,960
much. 
I mean like on less than 1948 

1429
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:54,520
show she she bring, she's 
playing that. 

1430
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,680
But she brings out a slight, I'm
not going to say dark side, but 

1431
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:03,920
there's something weird and mean
and narcissistic about the 1948 

1432
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:05,520
show. 
Amy McDonald. 

1433
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,400
Yeah. 
Think she says the weird things 

1434
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:15,800
she she plays like a brief 
excerpt of Swan Lake and says in

1435
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:21,360
the time it took to to play that
like 250 babies were born in 

1436
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:29,520
Africa and now for the Indian 
babies, just, you know, weird 

1437
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:33,520
things that she did. 
So I You have to be clever to be

1438
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:34,920
that stupid. 
Yeah. 

1439
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:39,000
So I am. 
And also she's she's had a good,

1440
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:43,760
long career, which is also 
sometimes an indication that 

1441
01:22:45,480 --> 01:22:48,680
that can sometimes be a sign 
that somebody's easy to work 

1442
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,080
with, especially if they're not 
like an above the line. 

1443
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:54,720
If superstars can have long 
careers, even though they're 

1444
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:58,600
horrible people, but when you 
get down, when you get 

1445
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,840
supporting actors, if they're 
consistently getting work, it 

1446
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:05,520
usually means that they turn up 
sober with their shoes shined 

1447
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:12,160
and their lines weren't, yeah. 
If the scene in the television 

1448
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:17,600
studio had been set maybe six 
years earlier, then they could 

1449
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:21,320
have also encountered Amy 
McDonald there, along with Marty

1450
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:24,640
Feldman and, yes, Timber Taylor 
please. 

1451
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,280
Now hang on a minute. 
Oh, OK. 

1452
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:29,600
Different, different, different 
studio. 

1453
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:32,760
But yeah, yeah, yeah, I was 
going to say, because yes, 

1454
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:35,400
sorry, but let's not go there. 
That way. 

1455
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:39,080
Lies Madness. 
Knowledge of Teddington Studios 

1456
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,840
where in Andrews tried to attack
the Earth. 

1457
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:50,440
There's a series called 
Undermined and has an episode. 

1458
01:23:50,440 --> 01:23:55,520
It's kind of like a British 
version of The Invaders on the 

1459
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,680
you know, it's not quite, but. 
And there's an episode that 

1460
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:04,680
takes place in Teddington 
Studios in which the aliens try 

1461
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:10,400
to assassinate Eamon Andrews, 
which will somehow further their

1462
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,120
plans of world domination. 
Yeah. 

1463
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:15,320
What's it called? 
Undermined. 

1464
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,480
Undermined. 
Not, not as I know. 

1465
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:21,440
In it, yeah. 
Not not to be confused with 

1466
01:24:21,440 --> 01:24:25,920
undermining, no. 
It's it's it was from Robert 

1467
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:29,320
Banks Stewart who later created 
Bergerac and Schustering and all

1468
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:33,880
those but also about Doctor Who 
stuff and then it's it's the 

1469
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,600
kind of thing you would expect 
from you would expect from that 

1470
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,560
that sort of stable. 
OK. 

1471
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,640
So Gary, have you got anything 
more to throw into the 

1472
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:45,200
conversation? 
I I think we've we've we've 

1473
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:51,680
covered it pretty well frame by 
frame and yes keep an eye out 

1474
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,560
for it. 
It's actually the thing I'll 

1475
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:57,160
throw in is is is I mentioned 
when we're watching it is that 

1476
01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:03,040
the the HD print is is beautiful
and actually makes the 1970s 

1477
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:04,760
look too nice. 
Yeah. 

1478
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:08,680
Because I know till you've said 
before about how the 60s, you 

1479
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:12,600
know, in HD looks phenomenal and
the 70s generally speaking 

1480
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,320
should be looking at properties.
Look kind of cool. 

1481
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:16,040
Kind of. 
Yeah. 

1482
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:20,680
Like to be, whereas in a lot of 
70s films even the nice bits 

1483
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:22,240
look. 
Warm and. 

1484
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,440
Drab, but in this, yeah, London 
looks like a very pleasant 

1485
01:25:26,440 --> 01:25:28,920
place. 
Andrew, anything to. 

1486
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:32,680
No, no, I've just gone into a 
little bit of a sidetrack in my 

1487
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:35,600
own mind, because of course, 
talking about how nice the 70s 

1488
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,440
looks, I won't. 
I wonder if that's a function of

1489
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:42,200
the economic crash that came 
just after this was released in 

1490
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:45,040
December 74, wasn't it? 
Which, if I'm remembering my 

1491
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:48,560
history right, is it precisely 
when the OPEC this thing 

1492
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:52,400
happened and the economy 
completely crashed? 

1493
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:58,440
And I'm wondering if like 7576 
seventies looks much, much worse

1494
01:25:58,440 --> 01:26:02,520
than 74 seventies. 
That seems plausible. 

1495
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:07,120
I'd have to watch a lot more HD 
70s stuff with that in mind to 

1496
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,560
be to be able to distinguish. 
Interesting. 

1497
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:11,160
Yeah. 
So like you said, Gary, it's 

1498
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:11,880
beautiful. 
It is. 

1499
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:13,600
It is available. 
Although it was. 

1500
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:15,520
It's a It was. 
Network, wasn't it? 

1501
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:17,480
Yeah, so. 
So is it it? 

1502
01:26:17,480 --> 01:26:19,120
Maybe is not as freely 
available. 

1503
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:21,400
Now I I think there's probably 
still copies available on 

1504
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:23,560
Amazon, the rather of most 
network things, but yeah, 

1505
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:24,920
they'll be out of print, yeah, 
yeah. 

1506
01:26:25,480 --> 01:26:28,960
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
But no, no brilliant film, great

1507
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:32,120
film and one of the best of the 
genre. 

1508
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:37,720
So chaps, thank you so much. 
We've gone. 

1509
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,720
I mean, we've really gone all 
over the houses this time. 

1510
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:45,360
But that's, that's the nature of
these things, Andrew. 

1511
01:26:45,440 --> 01:26:50,760
You know, we barely need to give
a plug to 500 songs, because 

1512
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:54,400
anyone who's got a passing 
interest in popular music will 

1513
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:59,400
already be all over it, I'm 
sure, but very well edited. 

1514
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:04,560
Yes. 
And and who edits that? 

1515
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:07,240
I do. 
Right. 

1516
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:10,760
And what do you do, Gary? 
Right. 

1517
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:13,240
OK. 
I can't for, for for reasons, 

1518
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:16,040
can't actually name the, the, 
the, the channel involved. 

1519
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,560
But I can tell you that if 
you're watching any blockbuster 

1520
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:25,000
films on a very popular 
commercial channel in the UK and

1521
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,120
they get interrupted by a 
commercial, there's a very good 

1522
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:31,800
chance that I actually chose a 
precise moment in that film 

1523
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:33,680
where those commercials were 
going to interrupt your 

1524
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:35,680
enjoyment. 
So you're welcome. 

1525
01:27:37,440 --> 01:27:43,040
Providing a public service, Yes 
and and you two? 

1526
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:46,080
At some point, now that you've 
got your brand spanking new 

1527
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:49,440
microphone tilt, you 2 going to 
hold you to this. 

1528
01:27:49,440 --> 01:27:54,040
You are going to have to 
resurrect plans to to bring back

1529
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,840
Sitcom Club or even Jaffa Cakes.
Gary, did we already have a 

1530
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:01,360
sitcom in mind? 
Hang on a minute. 

1531
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,920
Yes, we did, didn't we? 
Oh, I know what it was. 

1532
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:05,200
Should we actually? 
Should we say it? 

1533
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:06,760
Should we say it on there? 
Should we do? 

1534
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:11,200
It do important exclusive. 
OK, so nobody remembers this, 

1535
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,560
nobody remembers this, but there
was. 

1536
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:20,200
It wasn't a CBBC sitcom as such,
but it sort of was. 

1537
01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:24,480
It was called Rumble and it was 
about British professional 

1538
01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:28,520
wrestling in the mid 90s when 
the industry was on its backside

1539
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:32,080
and it starred Brian Glover and 
Leslie Joseph. 

1540
01:28:32,440 --> 01:28:37,120
And we've we might have come 
into possession of six episodes 

1541
01:28:37,440 --> 01:28:40,560
of the six. 
So yeah, we had that marked down

1542
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:44,160
as a future. 
Discussion kept that quiet. 

1543
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:50,320
I don't remember that nobody 
remembers it. 

1544
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,120
Very good, Very good. 
Well, we'll hold you to that and

1545
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,800
and the IE being served. 
The IE being served cast of 

1546
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,400
series on the back burner. 
Yeah, we we put the pilot for 

1547
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:02,640
that and we try to. 
Get access to a book I bought 

1548
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:06,200
about the series. 
Well, I may have that for. 

1549
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:09,160
Good, insufficient reasons. 
All my possessions are Nearly 

1550
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,760
all of my possessions are in a 
storage locker. 

1551
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:15,280
Well, I probably have said 
books, so if you want I can take

1552
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,120
a photograph of every page on 
the phone and then it will. 

1553
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:19,880
Be helpful. 
Yeah, you can turn it into an 

1554
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:21,160
audio book. 
There you go. 

1555
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:24,040
Should you? 
Do you want me to do the voices?

1556
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:28,680
I might. 
I might struggle a bit. 

1557
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,200
It's sort of do, young Mr. 
Grace, you know. 

1558
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:36,560
You've all done very well if you
want to listen to that before. 

1559
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:40,120
That you can't. 
Very good. 

1560
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:42,120
OK. 
Well, as I said, thank you very 

1561
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:47,640
much guys and you're welcome. 
And thank you very much for 

1562
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:50,440
listening. 
And I will see you next week 

1563
01:29:50,480 --> 01:29:52,000
with another edition of Goodbye.
