1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,840 Spike would write a description of the effect he wanted and it 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,520 was up to us to realise it in sound. 3 00:00:09,120 --> 00:00:12,960 It may be right, the sound of two gorillas fighting. 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,320 If you can't get 2 gorillas, 2 lions will do. 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:22,280 And so my team would roll about on the floor on piles of 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,280 scrumped up newspaper, beating their breasts, grunting and 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,040 growling to get the right sound effect. 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,720 He called for two hippopotamuses or hippopotami. 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:43,760 Well having a happy time in mud. 2 paper bags half filled with 10 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:49,120 water thumped and splodged about on a BBC tray which was also 11 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,960 swimming in water. That did the tray. 12 00:01:23,960 --> 00:01:34,120 Hello and welcome to Goon Pod. My name is Tyler Adams, and this 13 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:41,600 week I am joined by two of the leading panjandrums, I suppose 14 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,880 you would call them, of the Goon Show Preservation Society. 15 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,920 To my left, Mr. Chris Smith. Good evening. 16 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,120 Good evening, Chris. Good afternoon. 17 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:52,640 Come on. Good afternoon. 18 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:53,320 Well. We're not. 19 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:59,360 We're not running that late to to my right, Chris is a 20 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,320 returning guest. By the way, to my right is a is 21 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,800 a three time returning guest. I think perhaps my voice has 22 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,520 been really high. Then Graham, Lindsay Foote. 23 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,160 Good afternoon or good night, depending on when you're 24 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,680 listening to. This gentleman, thank you for 25 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,840 joining me. And it's a, it's, it's an 26 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:21,880 unusual but intriguing and Darius exciting topic that we're 27 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,320 going to be talking about today in wide-ranging. 28 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,280 And, and, and I think it's one of those topics that you could 29 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,480 probably, this could probably become and it won't, this could 30 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,560 probably become a three parter because you could, there's so 31 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,040 much that you could, you could talk about this particular 32 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:38,440 topic, but we are going to talk about the, the goon show sound 33 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,960 effects. But it was Chris's idea 34 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:46,680 initially and he was inspired by a news item that he heard on the 35 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,320 radio several years ago. And you thought this this might 36 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,520 prove to be a feckland topic. Oh. 37 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,000 Yes, this. Yes, we had a lot of feckin 38 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:05,960 topics on here. Yes, certain sounds that had 39 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,800 been taken for granted were beginning to fade away. 40 00:03:10,640 --> 00:03:16,760 This particular project was seeking to collect them before 41 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,920 people forgot what the sounds sounded like. 42 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:25,560 For example, a modem, the dial up modem from the good old days 43 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,880 when computers were young and so was the Internet and not many 44 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,040 people had them and all that kind of thing. 45 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:34,520 All that kind of thing. You've you've still got one of 46 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,320 them, haven't you Graham? It would appear so this 47 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,080 afternoon, Absolutely. Yes, it's a shovel Coke into the 48 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:45,200 back of my computer, that new thing to work this afternoon. 49 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,880 In point of fact, yes, it's it was a, it was a, it was one of 50 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,880 timid Oldestley's. You got the upgrade then. 51 00:03:55,040 --> 00:04:00,400 I got the upgrade yes with the other chimney yes yes, no, I I 52 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,400 know exactly what Chris means as far as the patching patching 53 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,080 noises of the old modem. I've seen a few, you know things 54 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,560 about this on the net myself In point of fact, you know, if you 55 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,080 recognise this sound sound, you're as old as dirt and well, 56 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,800 although I am old as dirt, that's not you know, it's not 57 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:20,160 it's neither here nor there. I think, I think the fact is 58 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:24,640 that yes, these sounds only disappeared 2025 years ago 59 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:27,360 really, you know, the dial up sound or whatever else. 60 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,040 So yes, back to you, Chris, you were saying? 61 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,520 Well, that is, that's exactly the back the the the point. 62 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,520 Those sounds are only 25 years old. 63 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,520 So what happens to the sound vocabulary that Spike was 64 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,160 relying on with the goon shows? If you're trying to get people 65 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,960 into enjoying a goon show, is he actually actually for some of 66 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,680 these? Has he actually got sounds in 67 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,240 there that are now obsolete and people listening to it for the 68 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,200 first time? Not so much the dyed in the wool 69 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,480 goon addict who would dig and dig and dig to find out what the 70 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,160 heck it was, but somebody his first impressions of this is a 71 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,760 is has several noises in it. They think, well what the heck 72 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,520 was going on there because some of the sounds do rely for the 73 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:08,600 spikes jokes to work effectively. 74 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,680 This is absolutely true. I I agree with this. 75 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,520 It's important, if I remember the, the last time we spoke time 76 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,800 we were talking about the nasty affair at the Burami Oasis. 77 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,200 And after a bit of rubbish at the beginning, you get a news 78 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,880 broadcast with the sound of the pips and you know, and, and you 79 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:26,560 remember that. Yeah. 80 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,720 And you know, you get 3 pips and then a couple of speed up ones 81 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:34,400 and then a quack at the end, which is great if you are the 82 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,320 sort of person who listens to Radio 4. 83 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,560 Most people don't, no. You know what, what are the pips 84 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,600 these days? You know who's, you know, if I 85 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,480 ran this past my teenage lads, they wouldn't have the first 86 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,160 idea. Well, one mind, because he's 18. 87 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,880 But, you know, the younger one certainly wouldn't be. 88 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,360 Absolutely. And what what is one of the most 89 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,960 famous sequences in Goon Show history that people always 90 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,960 quote? Eccles going for a audition to 91 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,920 become ABBC announcer. I'm wearing a Cambridge tie, 92 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,400 Right. That scene begins with the sound 93 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,600 of something that you don't hear anymore, which is a manual 94 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:18,160 typewriter. Good morning, Miss. 95 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,160 I'm Mr. W Greenslade. Oh yes, you'll come for the 96 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,680 vacant post of an answer. Yes, I have. 97 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,960 Do take a seat with the other applicants. 98 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:33,480 There's the there's the Rotary dial telephone in in the lost 99 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:41,320 Emperor Seagoon says I must call the police at a particular 100 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:48,240 particular issue point in Andy Goz spells you need the and the 101 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:52,040 Baker like telephones in the 1950s not only had the the the 102 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:58,560 Rotary to input the individual numbers, they also had letters 103 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:06,120 ABC next to 1D, EF next to two. Well, actually 121. 2 all the 104 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:12,160 way all the way around. And then he spells police POLIS 105 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,280 badly. But that doesn't make any sense 106 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,200 unless you know what the letters were on the dial. 107 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,040 Yes. Yes, I'm old enough to remember. 108 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,560 I remember them. I'm old enough to remember them 109 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,440 starting, you know, ABC on one and whatever else. 110 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,000 Absolutely. That's the reason why it was a 111 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,520 Whitehall 1212. You type, you know you dialed 112 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,480 WHI 1212. Because with something like 113 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:40,000 that, it's a, it's a, it's a fast gag and it relies on the 114 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,320 knowledge in order to get it across before they move on in 115 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,440 the story. They don't dwell on it, but it's 116 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:46,760 something. One of those things that gets 117 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:52,640 lost, a slightly different one and a great man might disagree 118 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,320 with on on this, is in the string robberies when at 119 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,640 Edinburgh station I was met by a platform there. 120 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,840 Should be a law against trains letting off steam when people 121 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:13,040 are wearing kilts. Well, obviously, you know, I'm 122 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,040 familiar with them because I like trains, but there we go. 123 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,360 And I've, you know, I've brought up my idiots in exactly the same 124 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,480 way. And now whether, but, ah, hold 125 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,120 on a moment, Harry Potter. That's a steam train. 126 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:30,520 And that was a phenomenon. Not the first time, Chris, I do 127 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:31,640 disagree with you. There we go. 128 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,640 But you, you'll have me on there, right? 129 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,840 OK, well. Can I just, can I just, can I 130 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,280 just interject because something's, something's just 131 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,559 occurred to me. There's another sound. 132 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,120 There's a there's a whole show centred around tram cars, of 133 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,480 course. Yes. 134 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,120 And yes. The last tram, yes. 135 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:55,080 But even in 1954, they were talking about it being kind of 136 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,720 an obsolete sound or becoming obsolete. 137 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,720 Yes, absolutely. Some of them. 138 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,000 I mean, you've got obviously got the whole the gunshot, the last 139 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,560 tram, which is what you're you're thinking at thinking at 140 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,880 And in that set in that one, obviously it must be about trams 141 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,080 because that's the title of the show. 142 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,040 But they still throw the sound effect in unexplained in other 143 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:23,040 places that the Ting Ting Ting without explanation. 144 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,320 It's assumed that people will know what it is even if they 145 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,880 hadn't actually seen the trams, because they're beginning to 146 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:35,760 switch over from tram to the the trolley cars, trolley buses. 147 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,720 That's it, Yes. Trolley bus. 148 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,840 If they were switching over to trolley buses, Rams would still 149 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,920 be in the popular memory and not everybody got rid of them at the 150 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,720 same time anyways. You lose them in London, the 151 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,120 last trolley around the rest of the country. 152 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,720 That's right. The last trolley buses ran in 153 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,440 this country in the early 1970s. I think somewhere in Bradford. 154 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,000 I think it might have been somewhere up north. 155 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,920 What what makes me think about this is if somebody is listening 156 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:03,360 to a gun show for the first time and it is about trams. 157 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,600 What 1 wonders how idiotic this the listener may well be to 158 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,800 actually not get that. Well, that's true. 159 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,920 I I noticed on the one of the wonderful Goon Show compendiums, 160 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:22,000 volume 10 to be precise, among the extras, there's a whole 161 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,760 bunch of original Goon Show sound effects isolated. 162 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,480 OK. Did you know about this, Graham? 163 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,920 I did not know about this. No, I missed this one. 164 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,040 I've I've got all the compendia, but that's what I pissed for the 165 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,400 moment. Well, what I did was there's, 166 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:43,440 there's about 20-30, maybe 2530. What I did was I went through 167 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,080 and I listened to the the they're not given any names. 168 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,560 So I went through and I just wrote down what my description 169 00:10:48,560 --> 00:10:51,800 of what they are, what these sound effects are OK, and, and 170 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,840 all of these are familiar sound effects from goon shows that we 171 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,640 all know and love. And I just want to run through 172 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,520 quickly run through the list. It's it's interesting just 173 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,160 because some of these are, are quite obscure today. 174 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,600 I think these sounds, some of them would still be recognised 175 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,640 today by, yeah, your average 12 year old, maybe, I don't know. 176 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,480 So the the the first one is I described it as an old car 177 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:22,520 backfiring, sounding like it's a wind up clockwork car popping, 178 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:29,200 popping, then dies. Isn't that from Dishonoured? 179 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,240 Again, I think it is. Yes, I think it is. 180 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,360 May well be, you know, all type. I mean, how did they take me? 181 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,040 They're doing 3 miles. I know that one. 182 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,760 Then the Wick in the engine's gone out at the end of it. 183 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,760 You know, that's it. Yes, yes. 184 00:11:41,480 --> 00:12:01,560 That's a lovely one. Then we've got various whooshes. 185 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,000 Now there's a sound effect. If you grew up watching Hanna 186 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,880 Barbera cartoons and things like that, or or cartoons of a 187 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,400 certain vintage, you'd understand what the whoosh 188 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,800 sounds signifies. It's the sound of a character 189 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:21,720 entering the scene at at speed. Would would young people today, 190 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,720 would they be able to process what that means, do you think? 191 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,840 I don't know because I'm not au fait with modern cartoons. 192 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,200 I certainly haven't been for a good decade at least. 193 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,560 I can't I I think they probably would be. 194 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:45,200 And I'd I'd say, you know, I'd say yes, I would probably say 195 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,200 that you know, that that the woosh thing is not an unknown, I 196 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:55,560 don't think, but you know it. It's obviously far more relevant 197 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,360 to those who have grown up, as you say, with the Hannah 198 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,760 Barbearers and the Warner Brothers cartoons and whatever 199 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,360 else I'm sure. I I wonder if The Goon Show was 200 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,440 the first British comedy series to introduce that as a as a 201 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,520 sound effect, because Spike would and Benton, I suppose. 202 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,520 And well, all of them would have, I guess, taken it from 203 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,680 Warner Brothers cartoons that they loved and Tom and Jerry 204 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:20,360 cartoons. They used to spend the afternoon 205 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,600 and, you know, seeing, watching them on reels, didn't they? 206 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,800 Absolutely. That sound effect I think is I 207 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,360 would almost say an onomatopaic sound effect. 208 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:36,040 How about return? A phrase is self defining in 209 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:40,840 terms of pace. Whatever it is, it's something 210 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,600 going to happen really quickly because it's the whoosh is all 211 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:49,640 about speed. So I think they'd figure it out. 212 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:53,040 It would it would you wouldn't have to wouldn't pass you by. 213 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,880 I'm sure I read somewhere heard. Somewhere pass you by very 214 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,880 quickly. Yes, I read somewhere hopefully 215 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:05,920 that the sound was achieved by dragging something along a floor 216 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,080 and then speeding it up. I'm not sure what the object 217 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,880 was, but something being dragged I. 218 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,200 Have a funny feeling Karen. Why is something in the back of 219 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,760 my head saying it was a it was a piece of rope going through a 220 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,640 piece of canvas. Oh right, it could have been 221 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,480 there. Something, something in my dim 222 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,080 distant memory is saying that to me. 223 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,720 OK, OK, yes, it'll be that. OK. 224 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,760 The next sound effect is is very obvious, a coin being dropped. 225 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:36,960 OK, money. Yeah, just a single coin, single 226 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,920 suit. Then we have what I describe as 227 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,320 coughing horrendously, which is as heard in the The Last Smoking 228 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:52,880 Sea goon. My one of my all time favourites 229 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,720 as well. In point of fact, this is it's a 230 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,680 strange thing you're saying. All of these things are on The 231 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:03,160 Gunshot Companion Volume 10. The these have been around for a 232 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,200 long time. I had a recording of the 233 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:11,080 offbeaten comedy sound effects from the BBC many, many years 234 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,960 ago and I've still got it somewhere. 235 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,040 And that that that is called 7 Men Coughing. 236 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,120 It's, it's actually is, it is a proper BBC sound effect which 237 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,040 was actually released to the public, you know, properly on a, 238 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,040 on a commercial disk along with a whole bunch of the other ones, 239 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,080 the offbeaten comedy ones. It was a wonderful thing. 240 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:35,800 It had a photograph of a, a wine glass being smashed on the front 241 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,920 with a hammer. And I think the whooshes are in 242 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,520 there as well. Seven men coughing is in there 243 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,440 and and it's full glory if if you hear it from end to end, not 244 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,040 just a little bit that you actually hear in the last 245 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,080 smoking sea goon, it just goes on and arm. 246 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,760 It's fabulous. It's the sound of ATB wards mid 247 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:56,640 1950s. It's. 248 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,760 Fabulous. If you listen carefully, you can 249 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,720 hear Galton and Simpson there in the background. 250 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,200 Exactly. I, I, Let's go on. 251 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,960 I remember looking it up. I didn't look it up for this, 252 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,400 but I remember looking up ages ago because on the wonderful 253 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:17,520 Encyclopedia Gunicus, which is available to all GSPS members 254 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:23,080 for a modest fee. I remember looking up the script 255 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,640 for the last smoking secret to see how Spike had described 256 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,080 that, how he wanted that sound effect, if you know what I mean, 257 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,400 of the, the, the, the coughing. And I seem to remember it. 258 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:38,800 His his direction was something along the lines of loud and loud 259 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:43,560 animals, coughing animals. Coughing right animals. 260 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,360 Yeah, I'll have to look it up again. 261 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,400 Something like that. And of course the sound. 262 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,240 I'm sure the same sound is in the Spike sketch. 263 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,640 Coffer Royal from Milligan preserved. 264 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,960 Milligan Preserved LP. Yeah, I think it is. 265 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,800 Yeah, I think it is. You're absolutely right. 266 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:04,720 Blimey. Yeah, absolutely. 267 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,359 And the next one is manic drumming of pots and pans. 268 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,200 Yeah, one of my favorite. The next one is one of my 269 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,680 favourites. It happens in quite a number of 270 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,119 good shows. Loud explosion with cutlery 271 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:30,520 falling. So yes, all the various crashes 272 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,280 is you've got the metal and glass crash, you've got the one, 273 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:39,040 the famous glass crash is on this, which you hear quite a lot 274 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,960 and they've used it forever. I think it was Dirk Mags in 275 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,960 point of fact, who actually said at one point the resonance isn't 276 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,080 that a wonderful that it's actually something you know, 277 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,480 that something that's actually been transferred from the 278 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,800 recording, probably through the recording head into the 279 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,040 amplifier at the time is, you know, this weird fabulous 280 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,480 resonances about it. And because of that, it sounds 281 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,120 exactly like a dirty great rock coming through a window. 282 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,640 You know, it's it's beautiful and glorious. 283 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:08,560 That's. The one that was a favorite of 284 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,000 mine. Yeah. 285 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:16,400 From these the the string robberies when Blue Bottle being 286 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,200 threatened by Moriarty. Let's fly with catapult. 287 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:30,320 My spectacles, but the first one that they actually come out with 288 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,960 on this on offbeaten comedy sound effects is that was a nice 289 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,160 little twinging noise, wasn't it? 290 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,920 Was my microphone stand going twin. 291 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,880 Surgical support. It's Hell yes. 292 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:50,520 Sorry is the first one is a minute and 30 seconds of musical 293 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,560 bubbling. Oh, yes, which I don't know 294 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,720 whether you know the story of. It's a fabulous thing, the Mary 295 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,400 Haberfield Glug Glug Glub or whatever it's called. 296 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,040 You intrigued me strangely. Oh, this is nice. 297 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,360 Oh, you like this? This is nice. 298 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,680 OK, right man in the white suit. Oh yes. 299 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,080 You'll hear all the way through that the sound of sort of like, 300 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:18,400 you know, laboratorial gurgling is the best way I can describe 301 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:23,680 it, which is in 4/4 time in the key of C major. 302 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:29,600 It actually has this noises, you know, and it was put together in 303 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:35,360 about 1951 by a lady called Mary Haberfield who was, I think she 304 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:37,840 was working for Ealing Studios or something like that, or she 305 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,400 was some sort of sound recordist. 306 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,840 And this, it's a lovely sound and it goes on like a minute and 307 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,280 a minute, 30 seconds on, you know, on the commercial release. 308 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,840 And yes, Spike used it. Silver the blooms. 309 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,960 Yes, which we discussed, didn't we, Graham? 310 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,680 We did, absolutely. You know when he is, you know 311 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,640 yes to You know when Moriarty and Grip Hyper first discovered 312 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:13,360 and you hear this noise. Oh, delicious kale. 313 00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:16,840 Delicious. What is that excruciating brew 314 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,320 you're sipping with that boot? Mariotti. 315 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:31,400 Taste, taste. Gad, what is it? 316 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:39,040 Your laundry. Love that bit. 317 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:46,920 But yes, this sound effect was then used in a record called The 318 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:52,240 White Suit Samba by Jack Parnell and his orchestra. 319 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:58,240 It's a it's a cute little samba from 1951, and I think it's the 320 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:03,600 first, if not the first recording made at EMI by George 321 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,120 Martin. Ain't that nice? 322 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,200 So there we go. There's these. 323 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,080 It loops all back to George Martin in the end. 324 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,960 You know folks. We needed, we needed some 325 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,520 Beatles reference because there's always a Beatles 326 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,520 reference and Goombot. Absolutely, yeah. 327 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,160 But yes, indeed. So there we go. 328 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:25,320 White suit Samba on coral. I think I might have a, a 78 of 329 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,080 it somewhere, but it's it's out there on the net. 330 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,160 Thank you know you've. Got. 331 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,080 I know, I know you know I know. OK, fine. 332 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,080 I know that you know that I know that he knows. 333 00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:37,320 Indeed, indeed. But yeah, no, it's out there on 334 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,280 the net. It's white suit samba by Jack 335 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,960 Partnell and his orchestra, and it's actually got to the, you 336 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,560 know, the Mary Haberfield blood blood glub noise mentioned on 337 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:46,800 the label. Which is sweet. 338 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,800 Brilliant. Let me just run through a few 339 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,680 more from the from this Goonche Compendium. 340 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,280 Some some pretty straightforward ones, like footsteps upstairs. 341 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:07,120 Yeah, hammering and soaring, duck quacking, and then of 342 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:09,600 course, the famous one from Shifting Sands. 343 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,480 Wine or Brandy being poured at length. 344 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:27,360 Endlessly, yeah. Just a cheddar pint, yes? 345 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,440 Stuff falling out of a cupboard and then general clutter. 346 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,560 This one I could only describe as Tin bucket being knocked over 347 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:45,920 plus twang. Comedy snoring plus lip 348 00:22:45,920 --> 00:23:15,000 smacking. And then there's the sound that 349 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,920 they used a lot. The Goon Show crowd screaming 350 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,600 and running. And now I would like to sing. 351 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,000 Yes, absolutely. There's there's one I'm going to 352 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,320 come back to. I'm not going to mention at this 353 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,320 stage. I'm going to come back to. 354 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,040 A. Couple actually there cup the 355 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:43,000 simple sound of a like a cup smashing glass being cracked and 356 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,000 then here's here's one that the the young folks won't pick up 357 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,520 on. I don't think I guess is this is 358 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,320 from the call call of the West invading Indians plus gunfire. 359 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,680 Yes, the wall whoops of the Naka Taka Indians. 360 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,320 Yes, yes. Yes, yes. 361 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,760 You don't get the engines on the TV now, do you? 362 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,640 None of that. Well, you still got this. 363 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:18,480 They still show Carrot Carry on Cowboy on bank holiday holidays. 364 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,280 Are they good thinking? Yes they do. 365 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,760 But that authentic looking Indian chief Charles Hawtry. 366 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,560 Oh. Hello. 367 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,400 Yes, did he whoop. Oh, did he? 368 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:39,320 Hell. Then there's a there's a there's 369 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,480 a couple more static, then Thunder, then heavy rain plus 370 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,600 wind sound of a Tempest. I've written OK. 371 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:48,760 And then blood Knock says manners. 372 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:49,440 Manners. Manners. 373 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:50,560 Absolutely. Yep, Yep. 374 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,400 It's a blood knock. It's, it's a blood knock. 375 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,600 Say explosion, then machine gunfire and distant air raid 376 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,800 siren. That's something that will be 377 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,520 got these days, I'm sure, yes. That's true. 378 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,320 The last one I've written down here. 379 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:09,840 Old car Aruga type. Now there's a sound that Aruga. 380 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:14,520 Yeah, absolutely. The the ancient, you know, ones 381 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,600 that you press down on the top like that, you know, So it 382 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,560 sounds rather like Margaret Rutherford being goosed. 383 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:35,080 It's a marvellous. The payoff on the policy Goon 384 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:42,840 show relies on knowing what a phonograph looks like, because C 385 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:47,240 Goon is hiding inside, ha safe at last, and somebody, somebody 386 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,720 delivers a record to him. He puts it on the record play, 387 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,120 which is one of these horned phonographs, which is looking up 388 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:55,520 at him and his big pipe and throat. 389 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,040 Moriarty are on the rate on the record and it's like they can 390 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,560 see him through the horn of the phonograph. 391 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,440 There he is, grid pipe, hang on and they start shooting at him. 392 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,000 Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. They're shooting from inside the 393 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:15,480 horn of the record play. And then he dashes outside where 394 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,400 Blood Knock and all the rest of them are lined up because both 395 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,440 sides have got him heavily insured on this policy. 396 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,320 So Blood Knock shoots at him. Bang, there he is, man fire. 397 00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:27,240 He runs back inside again and the phonograph says hi, he's 398 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:28,240 come back inside again. Great bye. 399 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,680 Quick bang, bang, bang, bang. That's right. 400 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,240 Just carries on backwards and forwards and backwards and 401 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,320 forwards. But if you don't know the shape 402 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,960 of the sound the the the the the mechanics of that record player, 403 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,320 I'm not sure that you figure out what the gag is. 404 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,960 Well, exactly the same with the beginning of Whistle, your 405 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,200 Kerzerweb, one of the Goon songs or the record. 406 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,920 The first noise you hear is Eccles shouting. 407 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,840 Who stuck that needle in my nut? Yes, that's. 408 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:04,600 Right, there's a there's a number of goon shows where 409 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,760 insurance the the subject of Ned being insured or somebody being 410 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:14,000 insured is is is the storyline spike. 411 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,400 May have had the idea that, you know, people are worth more 412 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,320 alive than dead and stuff like this, or, you know, insurance 413 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,960 companies may have thought the opposite. 414 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,360 Well, the the the the reason go on. 415 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,080 The reason I mention it, It's not I'm not just like going on 416 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:35,640 to a whole different tack here. But what I did, Chris and 417 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:40,280 Graham, I decided to choose a random goon show episode and 418 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:47,720 just pull out all the spot FX and grams effects, OK, And just 419 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,200 run through them having consulted Spike's original 420 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,840 script. So these are, these are, in 421 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,440 Spike's words, the description of these sound effects. 422 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,360 OK. And the show that I chose purely 423 00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:02,600 out of yeah, by by random was the Pam's Paper Insurance policy 424 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:09,280 Series 9. And I, I just want to run 425 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,760 through these sound effects. There's quite a few, as you can 426 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,000 imagine, right? Just want to run through, but 427 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,320 just see what you think because some of these are quite 428 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,680 interesting. So the first FX we hear, so 429 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,080 we've got FX. Which do you do you want to 430 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,480 describe for the folks the difference between grams and FX, 431 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,400 Chris? Grams is sounds being used in a 432 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,200 show that a run off a recording or pre recorded disc that's been 433 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:40,840 cut for the purpose and spot FX is items done live on the sound 434 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:45,120 stage in behind, usually behind the performers or to the to the 435 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,360 side. Yes. 436 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,840 Which led to a lot of visual gags as well as they they played 437 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,840 up to the sound effects guys and did things that they weren't 438 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,360 supposed to do at sometimes during the course of the seasons 439 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,800 of the gun show. Could either? 440 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,560 Have you mentioned any notable people that worked on these? 441 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,120 Ian Cook. We both remember John P 442 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,560 Hamilton, don't we, mate? Oh, yes. 443 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,160 Jim Pope. Jim Pope now. 444 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,440 Jim. Jim Pope. 445 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,600 I remember very well indeed. Yeah, he was like Series 9, 446 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,920 Series 10, quite late on. And anybody who lived in the 447 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,080 northwest of England will know the name Jim Pope because he was 448 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,480 a continuity announcer for Granada for 1000 years. 449 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,880 A very nice chap, I believe and you know, well remembered God, 450 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,240 God rest him. But yes, but his I think one of 451 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:35,200 his first jobs, you see him, you know, blowing a duck collar and 452 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,160 firing a gun, a ground of a gun show. 453 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,480 So yes, you know Jimmy Pope as he was called in those days. 454 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,160 Absolutely. And you mentioned Jon Hamilton, 455 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:52,120 Chris, he worked with John Browell. 456 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,880 Of course, he went on to become good show producer. 457 00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:01,760 Barry Wilson was on Grams. You mentioned Ian Cook and I'm 458 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,120 just looking actually we mentioned. 459 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,280 Harry Morris. That's another one. 460 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,640 That's that's right, Harry Morris. 461 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,480 That's right from series 10. I think that he was quite late. 462 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:15,560 I just want to mention Ian Cook because we, we mentioned him a 463 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,800 couple of shows ago. We, we covered the Goon Show 464 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,880 episode, the histories of plenty of the Elder where Ian Cook 465 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,000 actually gets credited at the end of that show. 466 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,320 And, and I and I, and as do Bobby Jay and Ron Belcher. 467 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:34,320 And yeah, and I was able to talk about the latter 2 gentlemen to 468 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,440 some extent because there's, there's stuff out there about 469 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,760 them, but there's very little I could find about Ian Cook until 470 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:46,080 researching for this show today. I read the interview with the JP 471 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:51,840 Hamilton, John John P Hamilton from when he was interviewed by 472 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:57,000 the GSPS, what, 20-30 years ago. And he, he just meant, I just 473 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,240 want to mention this purely because we, we, we mentioned Ian 474 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:04,760 Cook couple of shows ago. Jon Hamilton says, sadly, Ian 475 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,080 Cook was killed while cycling home from the studios by a hit 476 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,320 and run driver, who I don't think was ever caught. 477 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,080 He said Ian was a nice gentle soul and a very good operator. 478 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,000 So I just wanted to mention that because obviously we hadn't had 479 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,520 a chance to really talk about Ian previously. 480 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,560 But yeah, so as I was saying, so I've taken this this random goon 481 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,920 show the Pam's paper insurance policy and I just want to run 482 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,320 you through these spot effects and grams effects, OK? 483 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,520 And just see what you think. You know, it might, it might be 484 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,520 the springboard for some interesting conversation, or we 485 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,080 might just sit here and embarrass silence, you know? 486 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,440 It's to do with the goon chair. We'll probably laugh, I promise. 487 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,520 OK. OK. 488 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,200 So we've got spot FX thud and cracking of neck. 489 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,320 This is these are spikes carefully written instructions, 490 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,840 by the way, OK, that's that's introducing the home neck 491 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,760 breaking kit at the beginning of the show. 492 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:10,200 OK, then we then we have grams storms of applause, I guess, 493 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:18,240 because somebody's had their neck broken FX plate and FX 494 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,800 plate and spoon and that's Moriarty and grip pipe eating 495 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,320 frugal meal. OK, then it says. 496 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,280 Then it says FX rattle piece of stick between 2 temple blocks 497 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,920 brackets 3 different sizes if possible. 498 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,760 What do you think that is to indicate? 499 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,120 Either knees knocking or knocking of heads together. 500 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,480 I should imagine knees. Knees. 501 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,680 Absolutely. Knees Moriarty's Moriarty's 502 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,040 pitiful knees knocking together. Listen to these knees. 503 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,560 Then we have FX hammering out a horseshoe on an anvil, ending 504 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,360 with a flourish and and that is that. 505 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,160 That is Ned Segun straightening out his legs, apparently. 506 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,120 They're such fun, aren't they? The late shame. 507 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,880 Then we have grams lawnmower brackets hand propelled. 508 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,040 What do you think that could be a sound effect for? 509 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,320 Haircut. Close. 510 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,440 Shaving. William shaving behind a Bush. 511 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:44,240 Grams exalted birdsong from a very twittering bird right then 512 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:50,680 straight away FX pistol shot. Then Graham's bird squawks and 513 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,840 goes altered pot. I seem to remember it's that's 514 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,960 echoes. They shoot echoes who's sitting 515 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,560 up a tree or something. Then Graham's Queen Mary's 516 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:08,080 hooter. That was the an extraordinarily 517 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,880 resonant foghorn that really was the Queen Mary's. 518 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,639 They used that an awful lot. They used it in the sailor's 519 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:17,400 farewell in World War One. Speed up. 520 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,199 That's right. Yeah. 521 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,480 Speeding up. So so but that that Queen Mary's 522 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:26,120 hooter was used to indicate Max Scald raised nose rather than 523 00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:30,159 kindly. They were, they were. 524 00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:35,800 Mean to each other hold. Then we have FX starter's pistol 525 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,239 and then grams 50 pairs, hop nail boots, run away like mad, 526 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,920 start normal then speed up and then. 527 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,040 Spike Spike was very specific on the fact that it would have to 528 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,560 be 50% boots. Do you think? 529 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,159 Do you think you would have actually complained if they'd 530 00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:56,719 only managed to find 48? Then Graham's boots stop in mid 531 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:03,000 air. OK, And then there's a there's a 532 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,800 sound effect in the script that isn't actually in the finished 533 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,480 show. And Spike's got down here, 534 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,240 Graham's mule. Mule record. 535 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,160 Now I'm wondering, is that Fred the Oyster perhaps? 536 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,280 He called. He called the mules. 537 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,000 I remember, you know, he was interviewed by this, you know, 538 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,840 in the sound of Goons, that old thing, the early 1980s, that the 539 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,000 Frank Muir thing. I remember him saying they were 540 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,960 mules, you know, that used to blow their lips, to keep 541 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,560 themselves in, to cool their lips sort of thing. 542 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,640 And they came out with this wonderful Bronx Raspberry Bronx 543 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,240 cheer that that was the noise that they made. 544 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,040 So yes, the chances are it will be Mule record. 545 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,800 It'll be Fred the Oyster. But how did they come? 546 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,000 Come it was. There was obviously some jiggery 547 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,640 pokery with the actual recording to make it sound so unique. 548 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,320 It's a very good question. I mean, it's an old old disc. 549 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,040 I think I've mentioned this before in in the show that you 550 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,440 know, it, it was released Columbia Matrix YB 28 or catalog 551 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,280 of YB 28. And I know somebody who's got a 552 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,680 copy of it isn't me this time. I'm quite cross. 553 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,000 I've been looking for it for 40 years. 554 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,480 But you know, Jim, if you if you if you die, please leave it to 555 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,040 me. Yeah, no, it's banned 3 on just 556 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,560 in a bunch of ordinary things like, you know, a baby crying 557 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,640 and whatever else. And it just says donkey on the 558 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,800 label. And it's that, it's that Fred 559 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,040 the. It's Fred the Oyster. 560 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,240 Completely Fred the oyster. It's, you know, from beginning 561 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:47,360 to end it it it sounds like a very angry donkey donkey to 562 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,960 start off with. And then he's just blowing his 563 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,760 lips to keep himself cool. It just so happens that it's the 564 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,040 most as Wilma said, it's possibly the most obscene noise 565 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,800 known to man. It's it's come to people have 566 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,880 come to as a as as I found on Facebook, a lot of people think 567 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,800 that it's a donkey farting. It ain't no no it it, it is. 568 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,720 I think it is just a genuine recording that you know that 569 00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:16,040 that just serendipitously managed to somebody out in a 570 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,800 field with an electric microphone one day has managed 571 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,560 to get this incredible racket. All in the mind, you know, All 572 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,240 in the mind. What people think of it, it may 573 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,920 well be the case, it may well be the case, absolutely. 574 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:33,200 I, I just think it's, it's just a very happy accident that 575 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,600 that's the note that that particular donkey got resting 576 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,400 wherever he is made that. Fairly that that donkey 577 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,360 unwittingly has given more joy to people in the world than any 578 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,720 other donkey who's ever lived. If you think about. 579 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,960 It I have a friend who actually owns some donkeys and they 580 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,200 occasionally make noises close to that from time to time. 581 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,600 I will be honest, I must have popped up the with the with the 582 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,600 microphone one day and see if I can do a retread that's. 583 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,400 What I record your donkeys? Yes, she'd say. 584 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,040 Yes, of course you'd be delighted, you know, feed them 585 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,800 in ginger. Not been more than happy. 586 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:22,280 Yes, absolutely. Pop Quiz. 587 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:27,480 What Peter Sellers film of the 1960s features Fred the Oyster 588 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,680 Magic Christian. Well done. 589 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,040 Thank you. OK, back to Pam's paper. 590 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,080 So we we have Graham's whoosh as we discussed whoosh earlier, 591 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:45,440 Graham's lift, ascending lift stops and that is to usher in 592 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,720 grip Piper Moriarty who have been down the jam mines 593 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,560 apparently, which wasn't that a Ken Dodd thing jam? 594 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:59,120 Wines Jambutti mines not 4 miles away from my front door. 595 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,800 Absolutely yes, And I know, I know them well. 596 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:09,080 FX pistol shot and that's when Greenslade shot and then and 597 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,280 then grams. Fast disappearing running boots. 598 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,480 Long pause. Moriarty sings very softly in 599 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,880 background. It's my kind of thing for boots 600 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,600 than they love boots. I probably. 601 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,480 Listened to so many. Six years in the Army, we'll do 602 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:27,440 that for you. Yes. 603 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,200 Well, yeah, yes, FX cash register. 604 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,600 And there is your Jam Miners ticket. 605 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,520 There's another sound. Yes, cash register, I don't. 606 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,800 Know what I did mention? It before. 607 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:42,760 Yeah, yeah, Grams explosion, short and sharp. 608 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,720 Now what do you think that is to signify or indicate because it's 609 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:52,400 been used a couple of times in the Goon show, a very short and 610 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,720 sharp explosion. Any ideas? 611 00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:09,200 Some some gastric incident. No, it's a taxi pulling up non 612 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:13,840 sequitur. Yeah, then, then we have 613 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,960 Graham's horses clip clop away, lone horse well shod to give the 614 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:23,080 impression of inertia. And that is the progress of the 615 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:28,640 taxi. OK, now. 616 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,840 This one might. This one might stump you both. 617 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,560 What do you think this is indicating? 618 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:38,320 Grams. Series of series of terrible 619 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:42,280 explosions followed by a gas stove made of iron hitting a 620 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,640 concrete floor from a height of 30 feet. 621 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:58,200 Somebody feeding the cat? I can't imagine. 622 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:17,160 Oh, open a window, will you? I want to talk about the 623 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,760 bloodmarket entrance later if I'm here. 624 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:24,040 Absolutely. Then FX, great thud on head 625 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,720 brackets, chair bottom, body falls. 626 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,760 That's that's my reality. Being hit on the nut by a 627 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,480 sledgehammer. Graham's crowd of people outside 628 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,520 all talking. Then Graham's one pace forward, 629 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:46,920 military FX, wallop, wallop, brackets, slapstick or wallop on 630 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,360 chair back. And then Spike's written here. 631 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:56,240 Graham's mad rushing away of boots, 5 pairs, hobnails, 632 00:41:56,240 --> 00:41:58,800 brackets. The ones used in the last series 633 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,440 for just this occasion. Yeah, very specific, yes. 634 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:11,360 Then we have FX great slapping and wallops, thuds and yells and 635 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,880 then FX fresh wallops and slaps. That's morality being clubbed by 636 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,120 grip pipe and then and then and then. 637 00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:24,640 Isn't this the? Isn't this the, I'm sorry, grid 638 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:25,880 pipe? Yes, that's it. 639 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,520 That's it. I've not included because there 640 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:33,600 there is a Grams recording of Moriarty being speed up. 641 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,320 I've not included that. But yeah, then Grams cannon 642 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,040 explosion, that's when Moriarty's fired. 643 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:47,080 And then we have Grams sea sounds and Seagulls FX hammering 644 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,800 and tapping and then FX. And this is Hardy old perennial 645 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:59,040 sound effect. This the door opening, then FX 646 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:04,920 pistol shop Grams fog Hooters on the river, Grams mournful 647 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:15,240 foghorn on the Thames, and then grams distant foghorn, then 648 00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:18,880 grams distant explosion on the river as limpet mine explodes. 649 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,800 And then we we, we, we, we climax with the door opening, 650 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,960 Grams bring up lapping of water and then three splashes and the 651 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,800 end. That's all the sound effects in 652 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,360 that episode of The Goon Show. Very violent, much of it. 653 00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:37,640 I was, yes, I was just thinking that. 654 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:43,960 I mean, I was things that the things that the youngsters, 655 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:51,840 youngsters listen to me don't get exposed to that sort of 656 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:58,560 violence unless it's a particular kind of video game. 657 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,880 It doesn't appear in TV. It's. 658 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,000 Not for humour. Is it violence for humour's 659 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,840 sake, Yes. That's, you know, it's funny 660 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,560 violence. That's a highly amusing thought. 661 00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:14,680 One thing that strikes you listening to that long list, 662 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,480 that's just one show and, you know, there's a few dozen there. 663 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,160 It's busy. There's a lot of FX actually go 664 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,480 into this. Everybody remembers the 665 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:26,560 dialogue. Everybody remembers the 666 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,280 characters, of course, but there's a huge amount of FX 667 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,280 going on in that. I mean, Patton's paper is a good 668 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,280 show. Doesn't get talked about that. 669 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,000 There's so much going on, you sometimes get talked about. 670 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,600 You you think you know? Yeah, Carry. 671 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,200 On there was a there was a Just About You talk about the shared 672 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,720 number of sound effects and one goon show I I saw in the there 673 00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:57,200 was a radio review from November 1954 in the Liverpool Echo of 674 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,000 all places and it just talks talks about the goon show. 675 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:06,520 It's it's it's implying it's implying this is from 54 late 54 676 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,920 that the goons are are considering trying to get a 677 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:16,400 goons cartoon off the ground. OK, which never came to pass, 678 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,320 but but it it's I won't read the whole thing, but it just it ends 679 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,840 the the the little article ends with the reviewer saying while 680 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,920 you listen, because he's talking about the goon show that week, 681 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,800 which actually, funny enough, looking at it was the last tram, 682 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,200 right? And he says while you listen, 683 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,960 spare a thought for the sound effects man. 684 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:44,240 Barry Wilson, one of the Goon shows, needed 80 records to be 685 00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:51,680 played, so. Within precise split second 686 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,040 timing, they could get some of it back off by editing for 687 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,120 errors a little bit later on. But yeah, that's a lot of 688 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,080 precision and a lot of expertise to. 689 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,120 Yeah, they went, they went to, when did they go to tape? 690 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,200 Was it 50? I mean, you know, 5354. 691 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,440 Yes, yes. When they actually started to 692 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,600 get editable rather than going 60 inch disc stuff. 693 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,520 Yeah, So about 80 in one show. Yikes. 694 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,200 I said yeah, a couple of dozen though, you know, that's a busy 695 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,240 show. No, it ain't in comparison. 696 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,640 Yeah, yeah. And what I as you know, Graham, 697 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:31,320 because you've contributed yourself, but I on social media, 698 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,520 I asked listeners, Goon pod listeners, what they considered 699 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:40,320 to be the single greatest sound effect in the Goon Show's 700 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:45,240 history and had a really good. I mean, I think 100 odd people 701 00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:47,640 replied in the air sound ridiculous. 702 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,480 And there was a lot of repetition and as you would 703 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:56,040 expect, but I just I I pulled together a few here that I think 704 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,920 would be interesting talking points for us to discuss as 705 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,760 well. So Roger, Roger Stevenson, 706 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,800 former guest, friend of the show. 707 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:11,960 He said Neddy riding on a wall. Which is from the Hastings 708 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,560 flyer, isn't it? That's right. 709 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,920 You know, they ask, they ask him to pedal him away on on, you 710 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,640 know, on a bike which is leaning against the wall. 711 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:23,280 Yes. Well, pedal me. 712 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,280 Yes. Oh, no, the wall's mine, not the 713 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,800 bike. Well, pedal me away on that. 714 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:31,000 And. That is a beautiful sound of a 715 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,240 wall speeding up and going away at speed. 716 00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,080 It, it's an incredible sound. You know, rocks and boulders and 717 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,160 stuff like this. I don't think it's a brick wall. 718 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,160 I actually think it's a Stonewall thinking about it. 719 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,720 Well, that's the that's the mental picture it's given me 720 00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:46,600 anyway. It's glorious. 721 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:51,440 Yeah, he also mentioned, in fact, I think he was the only 722 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,520 one that I saw who mentioned the, which is amazing if you 723 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,200 think about it. The clock's chiming and chickens 724 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,600 clucking at the start of what time is. 725 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,360 It echoes that, that elaborate sound collage. 726 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,120 Chickens need to be things. Chickens are just funny 727 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:36,200 inherently. What time is it tickle? 728 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:47,720 Walter Dunlop, he nominated Fred the oyster, but although he said 729 00:48:47,720 --> 00:48:49,640 I've never been sure which end of the donkey had actually 730 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:54,720 erupted from, well, we think we've established that John 731 00:48:54,720 --> 00:49:00,520 Dredge had a number, but he he specified blood, knock stomach. 732 00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:13,520 And also the Mak Reiki Rising Jelly Splosh, which I don't 733 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,480 listen to that show very often, so I can't, I can't bring that 734 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,720 one to mind particularly, Graham Newnham said. 735 00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:22,560 The sound of a world that said travelling at speed, which of 736 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:27,200 course is a that's got to be up there as well as the greatest. 737 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,080 Yes. They're glorious. 738 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:33,360 The fact that it changes gears, yes, and actually goes up in 739 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:37,880 sound, in in, in, in tone, in in pitch as it changes gear is 740 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:54,520 fabulous. How did they achieve that sound, 741 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:59,080 do you know? Quite simply, just a a recording 742 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,680 of a whirlitzer organ being played, you know, jolly little 743 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:06,920 tune, the sound of a crash box being edited in, you know, a non 744 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,080 synchromesh gearbox, you know, like an old car or an old bus or 745 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,680 something like that. And then just you know, reading, 746 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,240 you know, and speeding the recording up a little bit each 747 00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:19,280 time. I think that's how they did it. 748 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,000 And of course Min screaming all over as well helps so. 749 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,840 That must have been fun doing that, but Spike would have been 750 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,920 there observing this or consulting. 751 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,880 They would need him, yeah. They'd need him for that. 752 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,520 Yeah, yeah. Charles Fenn said the Iridium 753 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,440 tipped drill for non porous surfaces from the Scarlet 754 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,960 capsule. Yes. 755 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,320 John X or John 9? If it's Roman numerals, I'm not 756 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:50,760 sure who's at Frog a la Peche at on police guy, he said the 757 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:55,320 grammar phone record is 7000 lbs in shillings from the 758 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,440 international Christmas pudding. I think that is. 759 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,560 And then now here, here's we we mentioned, I mentioned there was 760 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,160 a sound effect on the Green Shake compendium that I'd wanted 761 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,080 to come to later. I'll come to it now. 762 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,040 Duncan Gray. This is a brilliant 1. 763 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,280 He says I like the dreaded piano club, a crashing piano, mainly 764 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,640 because of Jon P Hamilton's description of how it was 765 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,240 produced. Do you remember this, Chris or 766 00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:21,760 Graham? Yes they would. 767 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:27,080 They took up upright piano to the top of the flight of stairs 768 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,000 and loosened all the panels on the piano and then pushed it 769 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,880 down the stairs in the airline hall. 770 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,280 That's right. Put a couple of chunks out of 771 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,440 the stair, the marble staircase in the process. 772 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:44,920 I don't know where the piano was much used for anything by the 773 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,360 time they got to the bottom of the stairs. 774 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,360 But apparently Spike and Peter Eaton were delighted. 775 00:51:50,480 --> 00:52:06,680 So that's that's the main thing. Citro man. 776 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,880 Hello, Citro, he said. He's got a few here, he says. 777 00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,840 The Penguin pianist in insurance. 778 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,200 The white Man's Burden. Go on, play. 779 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:27,600 Lovely, lovely. Is that Tom the. 780 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,800 Penguin, Tom. Yes. 781 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,920 That's glorious, Tom. Yes. 782 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,160 You'll know this one, Graham, of course. 783 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:36,400 Knock. Quack, quack, quack, quack, 784 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,400 quack, quack, quack, quack, quack. 785 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:40,720 It's me knocking on the door with a duck. 786 00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:48,840 That's it, Molly Mcdade says. The sound of a piece of string. 787 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,600 Yes. What is the sound of a piece of 788 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:54,800 string? I can't bring it to mind. 789 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,720 I think, I think it was silence. I'm not sure I'd have been 790 00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:01,880 actually. It's sort of in silence does 791 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,240 that I know what a piece of I know a piece of missing. 792 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,120 I know what AI know what a piece of missing string looks like. 793 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,520 Most definitely. That's the gap between the two 794 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,200 pieces. That's that's what it looks 795 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,200 like, but I can't remember what it actually sounds like. 796 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,320 I remember. I remember George Chisholm's 797 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:20,360 wonderful reaction to that Harry Gringler's He's Right Fish too. 798 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,960 Like he's in the room. Yes, George from beyond the 799 00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,960 grave. Here's one from Dave Webb, which 800 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,000 is which is a pretty straightforward sound effect, 801 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:39,720 but performed so brilliantly. I mean, it's, he says the 802 00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:44,000 strange request doors and footsteps sequence in tales of 803 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,240 Old Dartmoor do. You mind if I have a strange 804 00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:48,480 request? It's this. 805 00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:46,400 Of course I will do it at once. What was it you asked for? 806 00:54:57,050 --> 00:54:58,770 Never mind, I'll smoke one of my own. 807 00:55:01,650 --> 00:55:04,010 Isn't that wonderful, though? I mean, it was, it was perfectly 808 00:55:04,010 --> 00:55:07,050 executed that yeah, it's beautiful, isn't it? 809 00:55:10,250 --> 00:55:13,880 Peter Binkley says the solid minute of unfolding the 810 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:18,800 life-size map of Paris. It's from Napoleon's piano, 811 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:25,200 isn't it? Your left your your end down a 812 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,800 bit, left hand hold, fold it up, fold it over. 813 00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:29,960 Yep, Yep, Yep. The voice is getting further and 814 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,320 further back that usually that way of using the microphone 815 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:37,560 technique, receding from it and creating the sense of distance 816 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:42,640 and depth. Dave Reed says the the greatest 817 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,640 sound effect is the one that leads into a great joke. 818 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,960 I love the sound of many racing down about 50 flights of stairs 819 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,600 only for Henry to say I can't understand it. 820 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,760 We live in a bungalow. Yes, I don't remember that one. 821 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,480 I do remember that one, but I I've got a feeling it's slightly 822 00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,920 different perhaps, but I'm not sure. 823 00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:01,880 Does is it going upstairs or downstairs? 824 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:06,240 I'm not sure. Phil Shoebridge The effect used 825 00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:09,160 when Henry Crunn claims he's invented the whoopee cushion. 826 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,640 Phil Phil Tarrant Neddy's plane falling apart in Wings over 827 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:22,560 Dagenham. Hello Horace again with George 828 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:28,760 Chisholm in attendance. Anthony Munch Anthony Munch says 829 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,160 anything that goes on way, way longer than it has than it has 830 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,320 any right and still has the audience in tears of laughter. 831 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,320 Endless steps before a doors opened or vast sums of money 832 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,560 being counted out in pennies with with with bonus points when 833 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,560 they're spilt and it has to start all over again. 834 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,440 Yes, this is the sheer nerve of it. 835 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:48,200 It's. Incredible. 836 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,440 And here's one. Here's a classic one that we 837 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:57,160 haven't thought about. Colleen Dawson says Neddy's 838 00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,280 nickel plated bagpipe's been being flattened by a steamroller 839 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,680 in the case of the missing CD plates. 840 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,480 That's that's magic. That one is, that is true magic. 841 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,080 The great thing about it, you get the lookout, you get Neddy's 842 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:17,880 scream, you get the chugging of this thing and then the bagpipes 843 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,920 just winding down to a flat stop. 844 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:41,520 You know that's beautiful. Dear listener, the sound that 845 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,080 you've just heard was that of 100 tons steamroller passing 846 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,480 slowly over Neddy Segun and his nickel plated bagpipes. 847 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,120 Of course, to record this sound, the BBC naturally did not 848 00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,440 actually run over Neddy Segun with a steamroller. 849 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,400 Instead the steamroller was driven over Echols. 850 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,120 Thank you. Richard Mills likes the sound of 851 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,320 Henry Crun's car and dishonoured again as it comes to a stop over 852 00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:12,160 Neddy Segun. What have we got here? 853 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:13,920 Here's one a lot of people mentioned. 854 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,240 Which is it? Yeah, it is a sound effect. 855 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,680 It's when whenever Sir Patrick Elm says without a doubt the 856 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,000 bagpipes, he says bagpipes behind William Mcgonigal. 857 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,960 But Scotsman in general, Whenever there's a Scotsman 858 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,600 talking, there's always bagpipes. 859 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:33,720 Accompanying them. Treasure in the lake. 860 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,440 Wonderful moment. You know when he's talking to 861 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:38,880 Lord McGill. You know only when you die I and 862 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:43,200 you get 3 notes on the bagpipe and it stops dead. 863 00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,640 Here's Here's one that I'm surprised no one mentioned apart 864 00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,880 from, as it turns out, Graham Sprouse and the doeing of the 865 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,360 flea in the Flea. Steady, steady. 866 00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,440 Save your energy, boy. Save it. 867 00:58:58,840 --> 00:58:59,800 Steady, steady. Whoa. 868 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,360 I'm going to have to dredge this from me brain. 869 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,960 What they're actually called. It is actually a small like 870 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,440 device with a sort of like a bowl on it, you know, wooden 871 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,400 bowl. It's like it actually does make 872 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,880 a toying noise. All right, OK. 873 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:21,200 And finally I left him to the last did the great Ted Kendall 874 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:27,280 weighed in. OK, and he said he thinks his 875 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,880 favorite sort of sound effect or or sound collage from the Goon 876 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:34,160 show, he says not particularly funny, maybe, but the effects 877 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,960 sequence, which introduces blood knock in the spectre of 878 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:42,280 Tintaggio, a church bell, a siren, howling dogs spot 879 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,920 rustling, some straw and Sellers panting. 880 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,200 A few death strokes and the illusion is complete. 881 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,040 Yes. Beautiful. 882 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,240 Yes, and he's still got the arrows on his suit to prove 883 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:59,320 where he's just come from. Now, of course, there's a, 884 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:04,400 there's a sound effect that people always talk about, which 885 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,520 didn't, which I think didn't actually end up happening. 886 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,880 You know, the people always going about, oh, Spike wanted 887 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,240 the sound of someone being hit with a sock full of custard or 888 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,920 whatever. Or was it, was it the batter 889 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,160 pudding hurler sound effect he wanted where he went down to the 890 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,480 canteen and they filled a sock with custard and then he threw 891 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,000 it against the wall and wasn't satisfied. 892 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,240 What's the what's the actual story behind that? 893 01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,160 Did that happen or was that just a fiction? 894 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:29,320 Do we know? Peter Eaton story, I think so 895 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,560 that there may be more than a grain of truth in it or not, I'm 896 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,640 not sure. I'd taken it to be that he did 897 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:41,320 actually go down and ask for the for the salt, for the Jelly, for 898 01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:46,160 the custard, but it the one that actually they came back with was 899 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,680 like a Jelly splash. I'm not quite sure what how they 900 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:54,520 actually managed to get the kind of splatty sound that he wanted, 901 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:58,960 but that occurred then occurred two or three times in the in the 902 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:03,280 sock Jelly murders. Yeah, that the one that springs 903 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:10,400 to mind for that one is when Blue Bottle is hit with a sock 904 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:14,320 full of spaghetti is that I'll met by Goon Light. 905 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,240 You know, Eccles has, you know, kept his spaghetti warm by 906 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,560 wearing the sock full of spaghetti in and you hear that 907 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,880 that wonderful. It's a it's a whoosh followed by 908 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:42,600 a wonderful splotching noise. You see them warm worms. 909 01:01:52,400 --> 01:02:00,360 I bet, he said playtime nutters Eric Twill, Jim Burke in the 910 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:06,320 core of the West the I'm sort of a love loved and disliked and 911 01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,600 then like decided I like it again the the electronic pistol 912 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:19,360 shocks in Call of the West. One of those evidences of when 913 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,400 the radiophonic workshop was starting to be mined by Spike 914 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:26,840 for its possibilities. Because the core of the West is 915 01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:31,640 relatively late on, isn't it? Toward the end of series 9, so 916 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:36,720 didn't have much time to get at the radiophonic workshop as much 917 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:41,200 as he might have wanted to. But they they as distance shots 918 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:45,080 rather than the short, impactful close up pistol shot you get 919 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:49,440 from the spot effects guys. They actually they actually work 920 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:55,720 quite well, but they give you a sort of a flavour that the goon 921 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:59,360 show sort of stepping into a different kind of technology. 922 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:03,040 Yes, to get get its sounds. I'm not sure if you'd had the 923 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,720 chance whether they would become more. 924 01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:11,480 I don't know what mechanical mechanistic sounding if he'd got 925 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:12,920 more from the radiophonic workshop. 926 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,520 Maybe, yeah, because the scarlet captures around that time as 927 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,960 well, of course, isn't it? And that was that was yeah as 928 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,680 well. The the wonderful noises that 929 01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,800 you get in that straight out of Quasimas and the pit. 930 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,840 You know, the this what I think it's it's it's it's named in the 931 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:35,000 in the script as electronics. I think it is electronic sounds. 932 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:39,480 Yeah, yes, some collage that always makes me hell is the 933 01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,240 right of World War One. I suppose. 934 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,360 I said I'd come back to it. It's the one preceding, 935 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,800 preceding blood knocks arrival in World War One. 936 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,280 You know, you normally get, you know, a bit of an explosion or 937 01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:52,920 some chickens or something like that. 938 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,560 You know, I've never had them as bad. 939 01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,520 They pull out. You know, you get the blood 940 01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:01,320 knock theme, then you get an explosion, rushing water, the 941 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:05,920 sound of angry natives, Fred the Oyster ripping linen, a speed up 942 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,760 foghorn, an ancient car starting an explosion, and a metal and 943 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,440 glass crash, all with blood knock howling more frantically 944 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,640 as it goes on and on and on. This you know, and it's great. 945 01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:17,960 You know, the audience are laughing. 946 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,400 And then he just hits the killer line. 947 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,840 Sergeant take them out and shoot them. 948 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:29,720 And you, you find it from the next line what he's talking 949 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:30,920 about. It's talking about socks. 950 01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:32,480 But until that point, you have no idea. 951 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,520 And whatever hell blood not has gone through on that occasion 952 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,760 might well have been the worst one ever. 953 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:45,120 I think it's a it never never ceases to make me cry laughing. 954 01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:50,080 It's it just starts off this, this low, low grade explosion 955 01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:02,760 and by the end of the scream, yeah, that on top of you like 956 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:07,920 3035 seconds of just miscellaneous BBC sound effect 957 01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,880 noise. I think that sums it up for me. 958 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,160 That works. Do you think, do you think Spike 959 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,560 took those lads out for a large drink following that recording? 960 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,000 I don't know. There was a lot going on in that 961 01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:22,720 recording. There's the, you know, and now a 962 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:26,360 sailor's farewell, Queen Mary Foghorn goes up, you know, in 963 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:27,360 pitch and all that sort of thing. 964 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:32,560 Possibly so final one, if you don't mind saying anybody can 965 01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,240 work this one out. It's a strange one. 966 01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,280 You you get it in later shows it. 967 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:40,880 It's also in World War One very quickly. 968 01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:45,600 There's that that you know the sound of if the flea, you know 969 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:50,000 that noise. You get that being used for 970 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,120 things opening or things springing from a place. 971 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,840 You know Neddy springs from a bed twang and you get Peter 972 01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:01,600 going ha strings. So this weird twing you get a 973 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,280 few of those, you know, open this, you know a tin of 974 01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:11,280 suspicion. I don't know why there's that at 975 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:17,400 the end of it just brings a glorious silly noise. 976 01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:19,840 Yes. It brings it down to earth. 977 01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:26,920 That's something that for me, it doesn't matter, silly. 978 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:33,320 The the last smoking sea goons and Ben Nettie is saying I can't 979 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:34,480 come out. I'm I'm behind this. 980 01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,560 Kept waiting for a medical inspection and he goes into the 981 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:41,400 bloodmark stomach and right the whole, the whole, the sequence. 982 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,640 And then we'll just, oh, reckon you need one, mate? 983 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,720 Yes, that was the first screenshot I ever heard. 984 01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,400 Actually, I think I've said that before once or twice. 985 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,720 Maybe listen? Yeah, yeah. 986 01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,520 Start at the end. Yeah, start at the end. 987 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:04,160 I did have this idea of maybe giving you a sequence, a famous 988 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:08,240 sequence from a from a Goon show, but only giving you the FX 989 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:12,320 and grams indications to see if you could identify which show it 990 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,000 was from. I haven't had time to do that. 991 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,320 So maybe we could come, you could come back sometime and we 992 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:18,800 could do that. That would be jolly. 993 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:19,800 That would be jolly. We'll. 994 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,520 Sit down. But we'll sit down and listen to 995 01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,480 100 Goon shows before you invite me back. 996 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,920 What do you mean? As the GSPS acolyte as you are, 997 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:32,360 you know you don't do that every day. 998 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:39,960 Don't give me away, please. OK, So yeah, it's been, it's 999 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,000 been, it's been a, we've covered lots of ground. 1000 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,280 We've talked about lots of sound effects. 1001 01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,440 We there will be lots of people listening to this if shouting at 1002 01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:52,120 us saying you didn't mention such and such you forgot about 1003 01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,160 whatever it was, please don't write to me. 1004 01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:00,280 We we may return again and and talk about other other areas 1005 01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:02,640 that we couldn't didn't have the time to touch on today. 1006 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,600 But gentlemen, Chris and Graham, I want to thank you so much for 1007 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:10,800 for your time today. And is is there is there 1008 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:12,760 anything I've had a had a wonderful. 1009 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,320 I've had a wonderful time, but this wasn't it. 1010 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:16,240 No, but no. Yeah. 1011 01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:21,800 No. And and, and Graham, we had a 1012 01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:26,080 few, few little technical issues here and there, but we got there 1013 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:29,000 in the end. It was probably nothing to do 1014 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:30,800 with my computer. It's everything to do with me. 1015 01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:37,760 It's probably me. Somebody put him back together 1016 01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,760 again quick. Don't take him out and shoot 1017 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:47,399 him. Excellent chaps. 1018 01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:49,439 It's been, it's been, it's been real. 1019 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,680 It's been a pleasure. Thank you so much and we will 1020 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,359 talk again. Thank you very much. 1021 01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:55,240 Tyler, thank you, Tyler.