1 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:22,900 When you're feeling low down, if you can find romance and your 2 00:00:22,900 --> 00:00:27,500 friend for safety, and you can't find a man jumping toward us. 3 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,000 Just meeting to that the speed and die. 4 00:01:25,700 --> 00:01:28,700 Hello and welcome to game pod. If not the Rolls-Royce of the 5 00:01:28,700 --> 00:01:33,200 podcast World, certainly the East German trabant that barely 6 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,100 makes off the for court this week. 7 00:01:35,100 --> 00:01:39,700 My guest is sound engineer and producer, Richard Moore there. 8 00:01:39,700 --> 00:01:44,300 Richard is the man that has put together this fantastic new CD 9 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,900 and album called Fred Richard and I talked about how the CD 10 00:01:48,900 --> 00:01:53,200 came about where he got the tracks from the rationale, for 11 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,900 choosing the tracks, etc, etc. There's some clips as well for 12 00:01:56,900 --> 00:02:00,500 you to listen to and it's a really good release. 13 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,500 So any as any listeners who are goons found, and if you're not 14 00:02:04,500 --> 00:02:07,600 why you're listening to this, you really should seek this out. 15 00:02:08,300 --> 00:02:11,000 So I in the time-honored way, I started my conversation with 16 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,900 Richard by asking him about his history. 17 00:02:13,900 --> 00:02:19,400 With the goons, I was obsessed with sound and records and 18 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,100 things from a very early age. And then, one day, my dad said 19 00:02:23,100 --> 00:02:25,700 to me, oh, I've got a record that you might like and Pulled 20 00:02:25,700 --> 00:02:30,300 out a copy of the old 10-inch, best of sellers LP. 21 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:35,200 Yep. And needless to say, it grabbed 22 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,200 my attention, and from that point, I was very interested, 23 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,200 particularly in Peter, at least, initially in Peter. 24 00:02:42,300 --> 00:02:46,900 And it led me down, all sorts of different alleys as far as the 25 00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:49,600 goons would concerned. I ended up really at quite a 26 00:02:49,608 --> 00:02:52,900 young age. I don't know, probably 13. 14 27 00:02:52,900 --> 00:02:55,700 being a member of a given show preservation Society, And things 28 00:02:55,700 --> 00:03:00,500 like that. Hmm, and then I've always been a 29 00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:05,700 big Beatles fan me too. Yeah, I even went down to. 30 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,000 I was lucky enough to go down to Abbey Road when I was only 10 31 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:16,100 years old to the exhibition that they did down there for the 20th 32 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,600 anniversary of Love Me, Do oh, right? 33 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,000 Yeah, so that was great because they opened a be. 34 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,200 They were open Randy Rhoads Studio to for the How to film 35 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,200 show in the had lots of instruments and equipment and 36 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,900 things around. There is an exhibition at the 37 00:03:31,908 --> 00:03:33,900 same time, which was brilliant. Yes. 38 00:03:33,900 --> 00:03:37,500 And of course, whilst I was looking into the beetle side of 39 00:03:37,500 --> 00:03:41,800 things. I came across this named George 40 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,400 Martin, I thought. Alright, that's very interesting 41 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,500 and I learned more about what George did with the Beatles and 42 00:03:48,500 --> 00:03:51,300 then I found out that he also produced Peter and I thought 43 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,200 lll. Oh what's this? 44 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:59,800 And so I looked A lot more George's career and found that, 45 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:07,000 obviously, the recorded Spike as well and Mike and yeah, I was, 46 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,000 you know, I was pulled down that alley. 47 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,800 I was obsessed then with a lot of his comedy recordings. 48 00:04:13,300 --> 00:04:14,300 Sure. Sure. 49 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:18,600 And of course, I'm sure you know that, well, I think less than 50 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,399 six months before the release of Love Me Do. 51 00:04:22,500 --> 00:04:26,700 George had been spikes best man. Absolutely yes, yes. 52 00:04:27,500 --> 00:04:30,500 And and in in in between that period, I think it was around 53 00:04:30,500 --> 00:04:36,800 that time, sort of between the, that wedding and Martin meeting 54 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,700 the Beatles Bridge on the River. Why was recorded? 55 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,500 Yep. So it's also closely tied up and 56 00:04:43,500 --> 00:04:44,900 Link, doesn't it? It is. 57 00:04:44,900 --> 00:04:46,900 Yeah. Now it's in, its it stayed 58 00:04:46,900 --> 00:04:51,300 something that's sort of been linked with me quite a lot over 59 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,800 my career. Of course I ended up working 60 00:04:53,800 --> 00:05:00,100 with Michelle Monroe in the mat Monro estate, and working on 61 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,800 back catalog and unreleased material of mats and ended up 62 00:05:05,900 --> 00:05:12,200 the in 2012, over it the Emi building as it was before Emi 63 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,000 collapsed. And there are was sat next to 64 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:20,100 George Martin which is quite a thrill is you can imagine. 65 00:05:20,100 --> 00:05:23,900 Yeah. So yes, that was that was 66 00:05:23,900 --> 00:05:26,300 brilliant experience. And, you know, he signed a few 67 00:05:26,300 --> 00:05:28,500 things for me and we had a bit of a chat, which wasn't easy 68 00:05:28,500 --> 00:05:31,200 because bless him. His hearing was pretty shocked 69 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,500 by that time. And so you'd say something to 70 00:05:34,500 --> 00:05:39,900 him and then Judy is wife, would then shouted across to him even 71 00:05:39,900 --> 00:05:45,700 louder than you'd said it right. If I got this right, it wasn't 72 00:05:45,700 --> 00:05:50,300 George Martin, who coined the nom de plume, Fred flange, for 73 00:05:50,300 --> 00:05:54,100 Matt Monro, it was in Indeed yes absolutely okay. 74 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:01,100 That that story is is interesting really because Matt 75 00:06:01,100 --> 00:06:06,100 didn't want to do it. He wanted to record he'd been 76 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,900 under contract at Decker and then Fontana and those contracts 77 00:06:11,900 --> 00:06:14,300 would come to an end because he hadn't had any hits and whatever 78 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,700 and George had heard these and he thought it was ideal 79 00:06:18,700 --> 00:06:23,800 obviously for the Sinatra. Impression should I eat? 80 00:06:24,300 --> 00:06:29,900 Yes absolutely that Peter wanted so called him up and initially 81 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,300 Matt turned down he said I don't want to record a somebody else I 82 00:06:34,300 --> 00:06:36,400 want to record as myself. Hmm. 83 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:41,900 And it was actually his wife Mickey who actually persuaded 84 00:06:41,900 --> 00:06:45,100 him to go and do it. He says well you never know, you 85 00:06:45,100 --> 00:06:48,800 never know what it might lead to and of course it led to a 86 00:06:48,808 --> 00:06:52,400 contract with parlophone and that was where he Sort of hit it 87 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,300 big so you know it's was it wasn't meant to be what they 88 00:06:56,300 --> 00:07:00,200 call these things. A guide track for sale was it 89 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:05,600 was because I've done a lot of research into Matt's recordings 90 00:07:05,700 --> 00:07:09,800 for various projects and I've been through all the Emi 91 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:15,700 archives and yet Ron Goodwyn actually recorded his backing 92 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:21,700 first and then Matt came in and sang over the top of it. 93 00:07:21,900 --> 00:07:26,100 It with the view that that same backing that he'd used would be 94 00:07:26,100 --> 00:07:30,000 used for Peter, but Peter just heard Matt's recording and said 95 00:07:30,500 --> 00:07:32,700 I can't do that. We'll leave him on. 96 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,800 To love. You can't be a crime. 97 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,700 Don't kick me Swinging all the time. 98 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,800 It's delightful, delightful delightful. 99 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,300 I wish I could sing like that so obviously you said you was 100 00:08:08,700 --> 00:08:11,300 obviously in the presence of greatness when you met George 101 00:08:11,300 --> 00:08:16,400 Martin and Eva, Did you sort of besiege him with questions or 102 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,600 was it more we more subtle than that? 103 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,700 What it was difficult really to because of his hearing and it 104 00:08:23,700 --> 00:08:28,800 was a large Gathering it was for the release of Michelle's 105 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,600 biography of a father, right? It was a big Gathering there was 106 00:08:32,799 --> 00:08:38,000 celebrities and people all over. The place and very, very noisy. 107 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,400 So it wasn't really that easy to talk to him. 108 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,600 Just have a nice little bit of a chat with him as much as I 109 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,000 could, but there wasn't an awful lot. 110 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,400 I could talk to him about simply just because of his hearing 111 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,600 difficulties unfortunately. Hmm. 112 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,000 If it's because I you've just made me think, you know, if I 113 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:59,000 had been in your shoes, if I had two minutes, In the presence of 114 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,400 George Martin. What question? 115 00:09:00,500 --> 00:09:02,300 What I asked him, indeed. Yeah. 116 00:09:02,300 --> 00:09:05,800 It's yeah, it's funny, isn't it? You know, you all these possible 117 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,500 things you could ask. And that was, that was half the 118 00:09:08,500 --> 00:09:09,800 problem. You know, you've got this man 119 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,500 sat in front of you with whose record with this so many. 120 00:09:12,500 --> 00:09:16,300 I know, brilliant people over sort of a 50-year period And 121 00:09:16,300 --> 00:09:18,900 yet, what do you say? What do you ask? 122 00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:21,100 You know, I thought it'd probably done out of panicked. 123 00:09:21,100 --> 00:09:23,500 Actually, I think I just panicked and out of just blurted 124 00:09:23,500 --> 00:09:26,000 out a question about, I don't know the band America. 125 00:09:26,500 --> 00:09:30,800 Yes, it's so dark. Completely wasted opportunity. 126 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,200 But anyway, anyway, right? So, so that's fantast. 127 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:40,900 So you've obviously been involved with well, with the mat 128 00:09:40,900 --> 00:09:43,100 Monro. What would you call it the 129 00:09:43,100 --> 00:09:44,800 estate? Yes, absolutely. 130 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,800 Yes. Other, you know, any other sort 131 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,100 of projects like that that you've worked on everything. 132 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:53,300 Well, I've worked funny, another George Martin connection, one of 133 00:09:53,308 --> 00:09:57,200 the things I worked. I worked with the Michael 134 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,700 Flanders. Unless one is State point. 135 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,800 I was did a lot of transfers for their private archive, because 136 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:11,300 Michael was recording on tape from very late 40s. 137 00:10:11,300 --> 00:10:14,500 He had one of the first tape machines in the country, okay? 138 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,400 And so, the stuff from, I think 1948 is the early stuff to do 139 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,800 recorded from the radio in 1948 of broadcast, some songs from 140 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,300 one of their reviews that they were doing so yes. 141 00:10:27,300 --> 00:10:32,700 I Worked with Leon bersia who looks after Michael and Donald's 142 00:10:32,900 --> 00:10:37,600 Affairs to a large extent on behalf of their family and so 143 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:42,400 did quite a lot of work for them and that started that ended up 144 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:49,000 being material that was used on a set called hat trick, which 145 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,500 was lots of basically Flanders and Swann Rarities. 146 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:57,100 So there's that side of things. I have worked with the Roy Bud 147 00:10:57,100 --> 00:10:59,200 estate. Bud was, Mmm. 148 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:04,000 Yeah, film composer and I'm still doing bits and bats with 149 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,400 them, Peter scaling, his family. I'm working with, at the moment, 150 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,200 there's these people are, mostly not no longer with us, I'm 151 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,200 afraid. And I'm just, I'm trying to say 152 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,300 sorry to dump, trying to think I'm wasn't the film, The 153 00:11:18,300 --> 00:11:22,400 Magnificent Seven Deadly Sins, that ride Bud to the soundtrack. 154 00:11:23,300 --> 00:11:26,100 It sounds like, yes, I can't remember all of the films that 155 00:11:26,100 --> 00:11:31,700 he did, but that rings. A bell certainly you know things 156 00:11:31,700 --> 00:11:36,100 like Get Carter was his first, of course. 157 00:11:37,100 --> 00:11:40,000 Yeah. And he things like wild geese 158 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,600 and Sea Wolves and stuff like that. 159 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:46,400 It was all all Roy's work and Roy was in immensely talented 160 00:11:47,500 --> 00:11:51,100 and it's great shame. He died, very suddenly very 161 00:11:51,100 --> 00:11:53,100 young, yes, of a brain, hemorrhage. 162 00:11:53,100 --> 00:11:56,700 It was yeah, that was a great loss to the to the film 163 00:11:56,700 --> 00:12:01,000 soundtrack world. But I've literally who I think 164 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,900 this week it's been announced another one of the sets that 165 00:12:04,900 --> 00:12:08,500 I've worked on our work with a German company called Caldera. 166 00:12:08,500 --> 00:12:17,200 That issue soundtracks and with Stephen, who helps with the has 167 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,800 been helping Roy's Widow Sylvia for many. 168 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:27,000 Many years has managed to find even till you'd forgotten about 169 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,500 it. Eh A cache of tapes that were 170 00:12:29,500 --> 00:12:32,700 hidden in the in a storage unit in the north of England. 171 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:37,600 It's just suddenly it scores that have been lost for years. 172 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,900 Suddenly we found several and so there's one coming out from 173 00:12:40,900 --> 00:12:44,300 Caldera. Welcome to blood city which was 174 00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:49,400 a sort of strange. Sci-fi Western wasn't the 175 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:55,300 greatest most well-received film in the world, but it still has. 176 00:12:55,300 --> 00:12:59,000 It has a decent Royal bad score and Well, worth releasing. 177 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,500 So that's coming out very shortly. 178 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:01,900 Good. Good, good. 179 00:13:01,900 --> 00:13:04,900 So, you get yourself involved with a lot of these these sorts 180 00:13:04,900 --> 00:13:06,400 of, absolutely. Yeah. 181 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:10,400 I mean, I'm a jobbing sound engineer, and I do transfers and 182 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,700 restoration and mastering, and all that sort of stuff. 183 00:13:13,700 --> 00:13:18,100 So, at the moment in my house, I have not only Peter skeletons 184 00:13:18,100 --> 00:13:26,300 archive, I have the archive of a famous person who are not 185 00:13:26,300 --> 00:13:28,400 actually allowed to tell you about about at the moment, but 186 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:34,600 he was put it this way associated with Monty Python. 187 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,500 Put it that way. That's as close as I can get 188 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,900 without actually, giving it away than that. 189 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,200 Okay? So I have all their archives in 190 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,600 the house at the moment, and that's a mixture of 191 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:51,400 quarter-inch, tape, and I went to CDs and dat's and a dat's 192 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:56,400 which are multitrack format and a weird multitrack format from a 193 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,900 chi, which is 12. Analog tapes which I'm 194 00:13:59,900 --> 00:14:02,000 struggling with finding a working machine for at the 195 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,900 moment, but I'll get there. You know, so it's, it's all 196 00:14:04,900 --> 00:14:09,700 interesting stuff, you know. It's, it's a bit like I call it 197 00:14:09,700 --> 00:14:13,200 audio archaeology because a lot of this stuff as you've no idea, 198 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,800 you'll get a pile of tapes which aren't very well labeled at all. 199 00:14:17,500 --> 00:14:19,900 And it's a question of going through them and finding what's 200 00:14:19,900 --> 00:14:21,700 there. And sometimes you find absolute 201 00:14:21,700 --> 00:14:24,300 gems, you know, which is it brilliant to be the first 202 00:14:24,300 --> 00:14:26,100 person? It's a privilege really, to be 203 00:14:26,100 --> 00:14:27,400 the first person to have heard these. 204 00:14:27,500 --> 00:14:30,000 These things. Yeah, yes, it has many years, 205 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:36,400 you know, I mean, 50, 60 years. Sometimes can yell at me and 206 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:49,400 say, can you look me in the eyes and say, oh my, oh, oh, I'm in 207 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,200 your arms. This when we done she'll never 208 00:14:53,200 --> 00:15:01,200 hold me down, somehow I'm is Is that little kiss before we say, 209 00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:07,800 goodnight, have you found somebody you to call you sweet? 210 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:14,800 You and I got in your you yeah we got talking because you have 211 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:20,900 been behind this, fantastic new release an album called Fred 212 00:15:21,500 --> 00:15:25,000 indeed. Each is a fantastic CD which I'm 213 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:29,800 looking at right now I'm holding in my Publish what happened and 214 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,700 it's been, it's literally only really been officially out what 215 00:15:35,300 --> 00:15:36,600 a week or two something like that. 216 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,600 Yeah, that's right. 10th February. 217 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,200 It came out, so on Jasmine. That's right. 218 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:47,000 Yes. And it's essentially, it's, it's 219 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,600 a lot of formally unreleased, or not being released. 220 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:57,200 Since original release traits from from Max geldray from Real 221 00:15:57,300 --> 00:16:04,200 Anton, George Chisholm Wally, stop stroke Angela morally and 222 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,200 also peppered throughout. There's some nice little 223 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:12,600 Rarities from predominantly Peter Sellers, but also Milligan 224 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,000 and and Harry seek him. Yes. 225 00:16:15,500 --> 00:16:17,300 So how did this all sort of come together? 226 00:16:17,300 --> 00:16:21,300 How did this, what was it? That made you decide to Embark 227 00:16:21,300 --> 00:16:24,200 upon this? Well, I've been working for 228 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,200 Jasmine for about three or four years. 229 00:16:27,500 --> 00:16:31,300 I've done who've probably 100 releases for them as in a 230 00:16:31,300 --> 00:16:34,900 mastering capacity, but I produce as they like to call it 231 00:16:34,900 --> 00:16:40,300 producing many, when you compile a CD for them, I've been to 232 00:16:40,300 --> 00:16:43,400 producing stuff for them a little bit as well. 233 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,400 And so you get the odd idea sometimes and you say, well what 234 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,800 do you think? And this is something I've had 235 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,100 in mind for a while and I thought I've got to find the 236 00:16:53,100 --> 00:16:56,300 right angle. I got to find the right way to 237 00:16:56,300 --> 00:17:01,400 put it together because cuz I got copies of of Peters acetates 238 00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:07,500 and various other bits, and bats and I've collected a lot of I'm 239 00:17:07,500 --> 00:17:09,599 a big gray, Ellington collector. I love Ray. 240 00:17:09,900 --> 00:17:13,900 Hmm, I collected pretty much everything he recorded. 241 00:17:13,900 --> 00:17:18,200 I'm three discs, three discs, 378, I can't find other than 242 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,800 that. I've got everything that he 243 00:17:21,500 --> 00:17:25,700 recorded plus a few odd things, transcription discs, and things 244 00:17:25,700 --> 00:17:27,200 like that. Yeah. 245 00:17:27,300 --> 00:17:34,800 Um you know, the quite rare. And so I just thought well what 246 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:40,100 could I do to put together something interesting for 247 00:17:40,100 --> 00:17:45,400 listeners that will also attract Jasmine to actually want to put 248 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,000 it out. And so I started digging around 249 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,900 and seeing well what hasn't been out there for a while? 250 00:17:53,900 --> 00:17:59,000 What's been forgotten about and came across Across quite a lot 251 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:04,000 more than I expected. Max, for instance, Max geldray 252 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:10,800 recorded, some 78 for Colombia in the early 50s. 253 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,400 I'm probably in the early days of the Goon show, really, which 254 00:18:14,500 --> 00:18:17,700 had been forgotten. I mean, his EP goon With the 255 00:18:17,708 --> 00:18:20,400 Wind never been reissued. I then that was once again with 256 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:21,800 George Martin. Yep. 257 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:26,800 And so I found that and some stuff for George. 258 00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:33,200 And Polly, stop material. And I thought well, actually 259 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:38,300 there's this, quite a nice little set here for not just the 260 00:18:38,300 --> 00:18:41,600 goons themselves because there wasn't really enough material to 261 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,600 just do it goon set without repeating the stuff that's been 262 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,300 reissued over and over and over again all the Decca recordings 263 00:18:49,300 --> 00:18:54,300 and pink stuff and so ever. So I thought, well, let's let's 264 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:59,900 look at it, the goons and other Acts associated with the Goon 265 00:18:59,900 --> 00:19:02,200 show and see what we can actually come out with. 266 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,900 That's, that's interesting. And I put this idea to Jasmine 267 00:19:06,700 --> 00:19:10,800 who were initially, reluctant, what is there enough of a market 268 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:12,500 with these things? And I can understand that, you 269 00:19:12,500 --> 00:19:17,900 know, there's the Goon show is a long time ago, but they'd 270 00:19:17,900 --> 00:19:23,200 recently had some success with some other British comedy 271 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,800 artists of the the same sort of era, so thought actually yeah. 272 00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:30,300 Worth. It's worth a go to the man in 273 00:19:30,300 --> 00:19:34,600 the street or the record company executive. 274 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:39,100 Whoever that may be yes, BOS, yes to goon show is largely, 275 00:19:39,500 --> 00:19:43,100 maybe not forgotten, but it's certainly not as relevant as 276 00:19:43,100 --> 00:19:47,200 maybe it was 40 years ago, but or more than that. 277 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,600 But but if you know, one thing that this podcast, I'm not 278 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,900 trying to blow smoke up my own backside. 279 00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:56,700 Been, one thing this podcast has thrown out or made very clear as 280 00:19:56,700 --> 00:20:01,200 it is. There's a huge fan base still 281 00:20:01,300 --> 00:20:05,200 and and you know not and we're not just talking senior 282 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,300 citizens, we're talking, you know, people I guess our 283 00:20:08,300 --> 00:20:13,100 generation and even younger who you look at the you know, things 284 00:20:13,100 --> 00:20:15,900 like the spite documentary that was on Sky Arts. 285 00:20:15,900 --> 00:20:19,800 Last year, this huge still huge interest for these guys for 286 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,400 particularly Milligan. I think I mean Sellers as well 287 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,000 Milligan is its. I mean there was a Twitter poll 288 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,200 Just before Christmas, who's the greatest and most influential 289 00:20:30,900 --> 00:20:34,400 British comedian of all time and Spike. 290 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,100 It seemed to Win It hands down. Really in terms of just, you 291 00:20:37,108 --> 00:20:40,600 know, people can people say, yeah, he, you know we don't we 292 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,800 don't necessarily like everything he did, but no boil 293 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,200 it down. You know, he had the biggest 294 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,100 impact, he was the most in flashes I suppose really. 295 00:20:50,100 --> 00:20:53,900 I mean, modern comedy is, it is also really stems from Spike. 296 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,700 Hmm. So yeah, I can, I can totally 297 00:20:56,700 --> 00:21:03,600 see that. at, but you see the problem is with the recording 298 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:08,000 industry, is these days with downloads or in fact, 299 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,000 specifically more streaming than anything else, the smaller 300 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:20,200 labels struggle with looking at material that is going to sell 301 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,300 well enough for it to be worth their while because licensing 302 00:21:23,300 --> 00:21:29,100 fees are not cheap and so Jasmine is perhaps the only 303 00:21:29,100 --> 00:21:34,900 label who would do this, right? They have a very eclectic mix 304 00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:40,800 and the their business model is such that they are able to put 305 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:45,300 out disks. That might not initially, sell 306 00:21:45,300 --> 00:21:50,100 very many straightaway, but over a long period of time because 307 00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:52,800 they can keep things on catalog, a long, long time. 308 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,700 Mmm, it means that things like this, which are going to be into 309 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,200 the fans and people who discover the Goon show across the years. 310 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,900 This is still going to be available for quite a while. 311 00:22:04,900 --> 00:22:08,400 As long as Jasmine exists, this CD should be in their catalog 312 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,500 than they should be available. That the, which is a, which is a 313 00:22:11,508 --> 00:22:15,400 great thing, really? Whereas if it was a major label, 314 00:22:15,700 --> 00:22:18,000 well, first of all, the major labels wouldn't touch this with 315 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,500 a barge pole these days. But, you know, it it stay on 316 00:22:21,500 --> 00:22:26,800 catalog for a year, two years. If you were lucky three and then 317 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,900 it goes, And it disappeared never to be seen again because 318 00:22:30,900 --> 00:22:35,200 that's just that's just the way things are in the in the music 319 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,300 industry these days back catalog. 320 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,700 Is not what it was, in the boom of the CD era. 321 00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:47,800 Mmm-hmm unfortunately much to the disappointment of people 322 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,200 like me, not just from a work point of view, but as a fan, I 323 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,200 love archive material, I love stuff that's been sitting in the 324 00:22:54,208 --> 00:22:59,500 vaults for years that has been forgotten about and I I try to 325 00:22:59,500 --> 00:23:04,200 do that where I can when I'm working with major labels 326 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,700 because I'd say it's I work with all sorts of different things. 327 00:23:06,700 --> 00:23:10,200 So I'll do some stuff for you. Reversal or I'll do some stuff 328 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:15,000 for Jasmine or Caldera or ending with. 329 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,200 I've worked for lots of different labels over the years 330 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:23,200 and it's great when you're given a project and you given carte 331 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,000 blanche to actually get into the archives. 332 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,000 But unfortunately those things are very few and far between 333 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:33,500 these days. So Jasmine work in what they 334 00:23:33,500 --> 00:23:37,500 call public domain. Yeah, I know, but the public 335 00:23:37,500 --> 00:23:43,600 domain material. So basically, in 2012, copyright 336 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:49,100 laws up to that point meant that everything up to 50 years old, 337 00:23:49,100 --> 00:23:52,700 after 50 years, it fell out of copyright, it changed in, 2012 338 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,500 to 70 years. So it now means that everything 339 00:23:56,500 --> 00:23:59,500 that was fella, I've everything that was due to fall out of 340 00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:05,100 copyright in Team now will only fall out a copywriting 2033. 341 00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:10,200 So being public domain, it means that anything that was recorded 342 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:16,000 and released up to the end of 1962, you don't need to license, 343 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,500 you still paying what they call mechanical royalties. 344 00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:21,800 So, you're paying for the composers and Publishers and 345 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,800 that side of things. But you don't have to worry, 346 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,900 particularly about getting permission to record companies 347 00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:29,800 or anything like that. It is where this is all coming 348 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,400 from. So, All of the material on this 349 00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:37,000 is pre 1962. Yeah, but it just means that 350 00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:40,300 there's no licensing. I've run a tiny little record 351 00:24:40,300 --> 00:24:44,100 label myself. I license material, three and a 352 00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:45,900 half years. I get that's three years, plus, 353 00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:48,500 a six-month sell-off, and that is the standard for things. 354 00:24:48,500 --> 00:24:54,500 So it means that you've got no restrictions on what you can 355 00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:57,100 release it can be absolutely anything. 356 00:24:57,500 --> 00:25:03,300 Hmm. Pre 1962 and Then it can stay in 357 00:25:03,300 --> 00:25:08,600 catalog for forever. And so that's the way that I'm 358 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,700 in is not just Jasmine. There's quite a few labels out 359 00:25:10,700 --> 00:25:16,600 there but Jasmine is the one that tends to care about the 360 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,300 content and care about the sound quality. 361 00:25:19,700 --> 00:25:23,500 So it's Jasmine was the ideal label to go to with this one 362 00:25:23,500 --> 00:25:24,600 really? Absolutely. 363 00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:27,300 And you've called it an album called Fred which is obviously a 364 00:25:27,300 --> 00:25:30,600 nod to show called Fred India and I love the fact. 365 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,400 I mean It's a really the, the tracks on this CD. 366 00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:37,200 It's a real mixed bag of all sorts. 367 00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:41,500 And let's have a look here, you can go from a George Chisholm 368 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,000 medley. Yes. 369 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,800 Straighten straighten to the the famous jump into a Dustbin and 370 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:53,300 dance routine that Peterman Spike performed on the show 371 00:25:53,300 --> 00:25:57,500 called Fred in Figure 6. So and that's that's really good 372 00:25:57,500 --> 00:26:00,100 sound quality. It was that taken during option 373 00:26:00,100 --> 00:26:03,000 to just taken Any of the show's soundtrack. 374 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,200 Is that, right? Absolutely. 375 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:09,500 Yes, it's I've collected material across the years and I 376 00:26:09,508 --> 00:26:13,800 have absolutely no idea where I actually got that copy from but 377 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,800 it sounded decent. And so fair enough. 378 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,600 I thought, well, I think it's something that people have 379 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:23,300 always enjoyed that song, it's just silly and we get to see 380 00:26:23,300 --> 00:26:27,900 clips of it. You know, parts of it in, maybe 381 00:26:27,900 --> 00:26:29,400 it shows and things like that, does he? 382 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,000 But it does tend to be the ones. One Clip that they will use to 383 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,200 illustrate a show called Fred in documentaries. 384 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,100 So I thought well let's use the whole thing For Heaven's Sake. 385 00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:40,700 It's about time that it got right there and was heard. 386 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,800 Absolutely. And you've also got the yin Tong 387 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,800 song which was used as the or the version used as the theme 388 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,800 tune. Yes, absolutely. 389 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,800 And that one, that was the version that's on. 390 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,400 The album is interesting because there's not much of a story that 391 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:32,300 survives of a show called Fred no and In addition that I had 392 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:37,300 just so happens to have that at the beginning of the show, and 393 00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:40,400 this is an odd sequence that happens with Valentine dial 394 00:27:40,700 --> 00:27:44,800 later on where they're following somebody around the studio and 395 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,500 they play it again, but they play it from later on in the 396 00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:53,000 recording and let it run longer. So I was able to take the bit 397 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,900 from the start and that bit from later on and actually make, 398 00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:59,000 which is pretty what, pretty much the whole of the recording 399 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,000 of that, which is It's nice to have as well as I mentioned, 400 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,100 George Jessel near obviously. He's there by virtue of the fact 401 00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:10,000 that he was not only in the part of the Polish dot Orchestra, but 402 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,300 he was also well, the orchestra conducted by what was it called? 403 00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:15,600 The Wallace taught Orchestra. Officially, what was that? 404 00:28:16,900 --> 00:28:21,900 I suppose it was but I mean it was never it was never never 405 00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:24,300 labeled as such. I don't think our shows the 406 00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:25,900 orchestra conducted by what he started. 407 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,900 Yes, it was. Yeah but chisel chisel obviously 408 00:28:28,900 --> 00:28:32,200 would appear in pop up in a A couple of hands. 409 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,500 Lagoon shows. Yes, yes, line. 410 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,600 Usually a Scotsman somewhere around, it's almost always. 411 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,100 It's interesting. There's a track called needle. 412 00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:47,600 Noodle new? Yeah, from one site from from an 413 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:53,100 LP that's from a Decker LP did called think it's just called 414 00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:56,800 Chazz. Yes and yes that mean it was 415 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,400 just it was just basically a jazz album but that's because Of 416 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,400 that needle noodle new and thought well I know where he's 417 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,700 got that from and that's what attracted me to include that 418 00:29:08,700 --> 00:29:11,200 particular song. Cause obviously it had goon 419 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,100 connotations if you see what I mean. 420 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,500 The sellers, the, the early settlers, yes, tracks here. 421 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:17,600 So we've got a three or four recordings that sellers himself 422 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,900 would have recorded on the disc cutter that he bought from Bob, 423 00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:24,900 monkhouse. I'm guess that's certainly look 424 00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:28,900 me in the eye. That's most definitely will have 425 00:30:28,900 --> 00:30:33,400 been recorded on that machine. I would say this from the radio, 426 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,400 I'm not sure because it's really really good quality really well 427 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,700 recorded acetates and so I'm not sure that he would have 428 00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:44,500 disagreed necessarily done in himself especially as a lot of 429 00:30:44,508 --> 00:30:48,300 these things went out live. I get the feeling that he 430 00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:52,400 employed, a recording service somewhere to whom these things 431 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,900 for him. But I can't say for certain 432 00:30:53,900 --> 00:30:57,500 because I've never actually seen the labels for these discs. 433 00:30:57,500 --> 00:31:00,700 So I can't actually save us at but that I wouldn't be at all. 434 00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:05,300 Prized, because they're just, they're just such good quality. 435 00:31:05,300 --> 00:31:09,800 I think it's would be, I would be surprised if there were done 436 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,400 on Bob. Monkhouse is dis cut now. 437 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,300 And absolutely right, of course, A lot of them would have gone 438 00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:15,600 out lives to how the hell could he? 439 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,100 Yeah. And this Peg was doing it for 440 00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:20,600 him but well yes I suppose. But yeah well she was she 441 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,000 technologically minded. I don't probably knows it. 442 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,400 Can you just can you just explain about look look me in 443 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,700 the eye. Well it's just a little home 444 00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:33,200 demo of Peter. On his ukulele, which obviously 445 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:38,300 we had a few more things of over the years from haven't told her, 446 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,200 which obviously, there's a version of that on here within 447 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:45,000 playing the iewk with the Giraldo Giraldo. 448 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,900 Yes. And then there's obviously right 449 00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:53,700 up to the seller's market LP, where he does is George Formby. 450 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,600 Yes, no George Formby. So he played the ukulele quite 451 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,700 long as it's really quite a good ukulele player, I think so that. 452 00:32:01,100 --> 00:32:04,000 As thanks to Mark cousins. We now know that that actually 453 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,000 was written by Ted Ray and I didn't know that at the time I 454 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,800 searched high and low to find out where that song had come 455 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,200 from, but it is actually a song written by Teddy re called can 456 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,100 you look me in the eye? So that's yeah. 457 00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:23,200 Thanks to mark for that one. Yeah so that was 49 so that 458 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,100 would have been the time that around the time that cell has 459 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,800 started on razor laughs. Of course I would think so yes 460 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,300 that's probably where he Got it from. 461 00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:33,100 Yeah. So where did you because you've 462 00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:36,400 got, you've got that. You've got, like you say, a 463 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,800 version of. I haven't told her, she hasn't 464 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,300 told me. You've got, I've got a lovely 465 00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:43,300 bunch of coconuts and the, the Welsh one, which I'm not going 466 00:32:43,300 --> 00:32:45,500 to be good. And fair PG. 467 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,700 I learn to say the word due to this song. 468 00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:49,600 Go on. Go on then. 469 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,900 Fit clam FAIR Plan, Fair, girl, get it girl, get it. 470 00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:56,700 Tuned to operate quanta, Sileo gawk, and it's all down to this 471 00:32:56,700 --> 00:33:01,100 song. I know a place in well, That 472 00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:06,700 never never fails to give me the pleasure that I'm yearning for 473 00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:12,100 its Clan Vive whisking It. Go garish when drop with a plan 474 00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:14,800 to save Leo. Go, go, go. 475 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,500 I must admit. It may be difficult to say, but 476 00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:24,300 when you arrive, you'll find a treat in store at plan valve 477 00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:28,300 quitting. It Go garish wind up with a plan 478 00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:30,000 to silly. Oh God. 479 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:30,600 Go. Go. 480 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,700 Go. It hasn't got a history like 481 00:33:33,700 --> 00:33:38,400 holic or a sunset like landed. No by the Sea. 482 00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:44,600 It hasn't got a Fame for leeks and garlic but it's as broad as 483 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,400 it is long to me. Nope. 484 00:33:47,500 --> 00:33:50,000 Where did you Source these recordings from? 485 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,200 Well, they've been doing the rounds with collectors for a 486 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,400 long time in their raw state to be honest. 487 00:33:55,400 --> 00:34:03,000 Not not restored in any way and I did Restoration on some way 488 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,200 back. I mean probably talking early 489 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,900 2000s when I did some work on some of these and I'd had them 490 00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:13,400 ever since and I thought you know sooner or later they're 491 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,000 going to appear, somebody's going to issue them somewhere 492 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,699 along the line, but nothing ever happened with them and so I 493 00:34:19,699 --> 00:34:23,900 thought well you know this it's there's some such good material 494 00:34:23,900 --> 00:34:26,000 amongst these and there's quite a lot of material. 495 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,400 I mean I'm this is the, the songs from it really that I've 496 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,400 chosen for this but you Oh, there's quite a lot of material. 497 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,600 Yeah. From Peters early days. 498 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,199 I think there's a state of New to you which is actually a 499 00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:41,800 soundtrack from a TV program that I believe he was on, you 500 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:42,600 know. So there's yeah. 501 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,199 There's lots of lots of material that he knew to. 502 00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:48,800 You was his first television appearance. 503 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,300 I think it was. Yes. 504 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,600 Yeah. And so Peter kept all this 505 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,500 material, I'm told he kept an awful lot of stuff through his 506 00:34:57,500 --> 00:35:00,100 career but not all of it survived. 507 00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:05,600 I don't know how This material which sort of dates up to the 508 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:10,100 end of the end of the 40s. Early 50s, a lot of this stuff 509 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:16,100 at this has survived and the rest of it presumably hasn't 510 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:22,100 about part from his home movies. Why there's lots of rumors about 511 00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:25,400 why but I've never actually found out what the truth is, but 512 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:30,100 they made these acetates made their way to various people 513 00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:36,100 including Leading the late Berryhill who ran Orca old time? 514 00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:37,900 Radio Collectors Association. Oh yes. 515 00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:41,600 Yeah, way back. I think he started that in the 516 00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:45,000 sort of 80s 90s. I think he started because he 517 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:51,500 had this humongous collection of reel to reels and tapes, and 518 00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:54,900 disks and stuff of, he was a major major collector. 519 00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:59,500 In fact, I believe he had to Terrace houses and he lived in 520 00:35:59,500 --> 00:36:08,200 one and his Cut the other and eventually he found somebody who 521 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:15,000 was sponsored him to ship all of this across to the states. 522 00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:19,500 And it was when he was in the state, I believe that the 523 00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:24,900 sellers acetates came into his possession and he was one of two 524 00:36:24,900 --> 00:36:31,100 or three different Engineers, who may dubs of these Right. 525 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,400 Yeah. And yes, I just happened to 526 00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:37,900 through various collectors, have a copy of those and that's why 527 00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:40,400 why I have included them here because I think it was about 528 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:46,700 time after nearly what's that 70 plus 70 years? 529 00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:49,100 Yeah it's about time people had. They've been getting really I 530 00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:54,700 thought you know this you know this it I find it fascinating 531 00:36:54,700 --> 00:36:59,100 you know that early pre goon show material just to see what 532 00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:02,200 he was doing there. What he's Tea Act was like, it's 533 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,800 very different obviously to what he was like in the Goon show and 534 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,900 and in anything he did after that, there's very little that 535 00:37:11,900 --> 00:37:16,100 you'll find in his career that even sounds even slightly like 536 00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:19,500 this. Yeah, I mean it was the closest 537 00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:22,800 thing to him doing stand-up. I suppose some of these wasn't 538 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,400 it? Yes, absolutely. 539 00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:26,900 Absolutely. Just I want to I want to just 540 00:37:26,900 --> 00:37:29,900 mention about the railing tonight because there's some 541 00:37:29,900 --> 00:37:33,000 very early Hmm. Recordings here from when he was 542 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,300 recording for the Moscow, overseas recorded broadcasting 543 00:37:37,300 --> 00:37:38,800 Services. That's right. 544 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,200 Yeah. Part of a tensor. 545 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,000 Yeah, that's correct. Yes. 546 00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:44,300 Just tell me about that. Well, that's part of my own 547 00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:48,600 collection from one of my I got a couple of transcription discs 548 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,400 from Joe time. I do, I've no idea where that he 549 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,300 was a regular on that or it was just a guest that week. 550 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,600 But I happened to have found one particular set of acetates. 551 00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:04,900 For probably about 15 minutes of worth of the show. 552 00:38:04,900 --> 00:38:08,600 I would assume a show probably took up four discs and I've got 553 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,600 two of them and Racing's a couple of numbers on their 554 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,700 Sweet. Lorraine is the one that I've 555 00:38:13,700 --> 00:38:17,100 put on the set. I was also he also sang a 556 00:38:17,107 --> 00:38:21,300 version of is you is or is you ain't my baby on there too. 557 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,000 And yeah. So I think these are probably 558 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,500 one of the first solo outings for Ray post-war. 559 00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:35,000 Post his years with Harry Roy Woods, he was within the 1930s 560 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:41,400 as a drummer and occasional vocalist and I think it actually 561 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:49,200 predates. The quartet, just have you heard 562 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,900 the story of a Old Mother Hubbard? 563 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:57,600 I'm sure that everyone is no. You must have heard it. 564 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:04,500 But if you haven't this is The way it goes by, I 0 Mother 565 00:39:04,500 --> 00:39:09,600 Hubbard went to the cupboard to get her dog, a bone when she got 566 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,600 there. The cupboard was Bare and so the 567 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,400 poor little dog, he had. None of the little dog sat with 568 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,200 his head on the mat. So hungry. 569 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,700 He wants to cry but he wags, his tail and Yvonne who blew one of 570 00:39:21,700 --> 00:39:26,300 the Harvard. Straightly eye dog on Zed little 571 00:39:26,300 --> 00:39:29,500 dog. That ain't the thing to do, if 572 00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:32,200 you were hungry. And you wanted a bone while I 573 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:37,300 found one someplace for you. So the closed of carbon and she 574 00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:40,900 went out in this is a strange spelling of Cortez. 575 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,000 And there is yeah. And it's a strange record that 576 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,100 one Dan for I can only assume a mail-order. 577 00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:52,600 I've never found out much about the label the version of Old 578 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,300 Mother Hubbard that's on the disk. 579 00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:58,200 It was done for towers of London, a record month record of 580 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,500 the Month Club selection, and I've never From found any other 581 00:40:01,500 --> 00:40:07,600 records from towers of London. Yes, anything any information 582 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:12,100 from them? And I can only assume that as 583 00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:17,700 Ray was more than likely under contract to parlophone by this 584 00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:23,600 time if they spelt it quartet without the tea in the the extra 585 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:28,200 T and E on the end, it would have been against the contract 586 00:40:28,300 --> 00:40:32,800 of parlophone but the Ritz Spell it a different way they can sort 587 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:38,000 of say, wasn't us. That's a bit that's a bit like 588 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:43,500 the makers of carry on a manual. They had to add or subtract and 589 00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:46,300 are more in EM from Emanuel to make sure they won't 590 00:40:46,300 --> 00:40:49,200 contravening any copyright and really rights issues. 591 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,800 Solutely. Also into some some great me 592 00:40:53,800 --> 00:41:01,200 glow glow worm. That's gold. 593 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,300 Right number Glow where I really, really like that with. 594 00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:05,600 No. Now, Norrie paramor and his 595 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,100 orchestra. Yes. 596 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,900 Am I right again, getting back to George Martin was there some 597 00:41:11,900 --> 00:41:13,800 animosity between him and George Martin. 598 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,900 Do you know about this? I mean I've read things but I'm 599 00:41:18,900 --> 00:41:21,800 not absolutely certain there was animosity as such. 600 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:27,300 I think there was an annoyance from George and it actually 601 00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:30,400 became something that I think even David. 602 00:41:30,500 --> 00:41:33,000 To the Mickey out of, at one point on that was the week. 603 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:39,100 That was the fact that it seemed like, every B-side of every 604 00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:42,300 recording, put out by Norrie paramor. 605 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,400 After a particular Point, had something composed by Norrie 606 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:50,300 paramor on the other side, but on the other hand, George did 607 00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:54,100 occasionally did this? Although he wasn't so blatantly 608 00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:56,600 to because he used, he used the name. 609 00:41:57,700 --> 00:42:03,900 Graham Fisher, I believe. Was George's pseudonym her when 610 00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:06,900 he did, he didn't do it quite so often as not, you know, he was 611 00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:12,800 just what I just put paramour on it and I think it's sort of 612 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:18,500 rubbed people up the wrong way, quite a bit within ear, my 613 00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:20,600 circles. Yeah, but I don't think there 614 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,000 was any particular animosity. I'm I don't believe there was 615 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:28,800 any real animosity between any of the sort of rival. 616 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,700 Producers, Norrie paramor. Ridley, Norman, Newell, all of 617 00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:38,000 those popular producers at Emi at the time. 618 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,300 I think it was a sort of friendly rivalry more than 619 00:42:40,300 --> 00:42:43,000 anything as I don't believe there was any animosity and I 620 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:48,800 know Helen Shapiro and her husband a little bit and she 621 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,400 speaks glowingly of nori because there's a really lovely man. 622 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,300 So, you know, so I can't, I can't see that. 623 00:42:55,300 --> 00:42:58,500 There was really anything and even really Dreadful going on 624 00:42:58,900 --> 00:43:01,900 but now that's interesting. Those are those Columbia 625 00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:03,800 recordings. I think had been forgotten 626 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:08,600 about. He did four sides for Columbia 627 00:43:08,700 --> 00:43:10,900 of which I think I've included three on the set. 628 00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:17,000 Yeah, and yeah that the they're very much in the same vein. 629 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,500 As the Goon show material. Oh, I do have a little bit of a 630 00:43:20,508 --> 00:43:25,200 soft spot for harmonica rag, just because of the vocal range 631 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,000 of printing that where they vocalists, actually make the 632 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,800 sound of the harmonica, which I He's a quite quite clever thing. 633 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,900 Yes, yeah, absolutely. And there's that. 634 00:43:35,900 --> 00:43:38,300 There's a sprinkling of Spike. I mean, we obviously have spiked 635 00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:41,700 with Peter doing the yes. Ying Dong Song and Dustbin 636 00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:44,900 dance. But you've got walking my baby 637 00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:46,500 back home, which was a real cure. 638 00:43:46,900 --> 00:43:48,500 Yes. Yes. 639 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:54,900 There was a series for made just for BBC transcription services 640 00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:56,800 so it wasn't broadcast in this country. 641 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,100 It was made for sale overseas and they made quite a lot of 642 00:44:00,107 --> 00:44:02,300 these. It shows over three or four year 643 00:44:02,300 --> 00:44:10,200 period, the BBC and one point the resident singer on the show 644 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,900 was Dickie. Valentine and Spike was a guest. 645 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,400 Ray has been a guest on there. I think there's a star show 646 00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:22,000 track from Ray on the set as well so a lots of people from 647 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,700 the time even people like Cliff written whatever we're on it and 648 00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:28,600 it was with the Ted Heath Orchestra with a resident band. 649 00:44:30,500 --> 00:44:34,500 And yeah, as you can imagine despite doesn't take things, 650 00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:37,500 particularly seriously, no, and sort of hijack. 651 00:44:37,500 --> 00:44:42,400 Sticky Valentine's song we stop, rule while and then she gives me 652 00:44:42,408 --> 00:44:45,500 a smile and then, she snuggled up to my chest. 653 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:54,400 We started to paint. That's when I get him, after I 654 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,700 kind of straighten my tie, she has to borrow my go. 655 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,600 He's all one kiss. It's then we continue again. 656 00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:06,700 Walking the baby back home, Looking Backward, walking 657 00:45:24,900 --> 00:45:29,700 like those crazy hands off me. You know, I thought it Spike 658 00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:32,900 doesn't sing anything else and I was trying to say, keep with the 659 00:45:32,900 --> 00:45:36,500 Musical theme with this rather than putting anything spoken 660 00:45:36,500 --> 00:45:41,400 word in, so Spike, doesn't sing anything else in the that 661 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,600 particular edition of the star show, he mucks around. 662 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,500 Does this city sketch in it, but he doesn't actually sing 663 00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:52,700 anything other than that, but I thought it was just so Daft that 664 00:45:52,700 --> 00:45:56,500 it really ought to be included and you've included an 665 00:45:56,500 --> 00:46:00,300 alternative take Of wormwood scrubs Tango? 666 00:46:00,900 --> 00:46:04,900 Yeah, yeah, I've called it alternative take its I suppose 667 00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:10,500 you could say it's partially alternative what George has done 668 00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:13,800 with the final single. He's taken this take and he's 669 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,300 taken another. And there's an edit part the way 670 00:46:16,300 --> 00:46:22,300 through where the find this, the single that was released jumps 671 00:46:22,300 --> 00:46:24,000 to a different take halfway through. 672 00:46:24,500 --> 00:46:28,200 So this is the full version of the full take bits before. 673 00:46:28,300 --> 00:46:31,000 For any of the sound effects would put on it, there's a bit 674 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,800 of an edit at the very end, which has material that's not on 675 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,400 the single as well. So it's an alternate in the fact 676 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:45,100 that it's Different to to the released single. 677 00:46:45,700 --> 00:46:47,900 And it's in Stereo, which, of course, the original single 678 00:46:47,900 --> 00:46:52,200 wasn't mhm. And, and there's a, there's a 679 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,100 showing from Harry seeking, right, at the beginning of the 680 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,500 solute, well, I couldn't leave Harry out. 681 00:46:58,500 --> 00:47:01,800 So, what can you do to include Harry in this? 682 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,500 And so falling in love, with love was a song. 683 00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:07,500 He often used as a warm-up for the gun show, so I thought it 684 00:47:07,500 --> 00:47:10,300 was the ideal thing to sort of start the album with as a warmer 685 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,700 perfect. And it ended Screech of all was 686 00:47:12,700 --> 00:47:17,000 well indeed. Yes with accompaniment by Sal 687 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,500 has certainly I remember sellers on the timpani. 688 00:47:19,500 --> 00:47:24,600 Yeah that's right. And lovely just because we get 689 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:29,000 to the end of the CD, you've got a handful of well there's two 690 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,600 really great I think I love the theme tune from two-way stretch 691 00:47:32,700 --> 00:47:38,400 yes which is absolutely classic and and you've also got the else 692 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,500 axum vocals on I'm All right ejected. 693 00:47:42,500 --> 00:47:44,100 I'm all right. Jack theme tune. 694 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,100 We covered that on the podcast last year that film. 695 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,000 Hmm. And as I said on the podcast, to 696 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,400 my guest, mellow rocker said, you know, at the time that must 697 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,800 have bloke that I've raucous rock and roll. 698 00:47:58,900 --> 00:47:59,200 Yeah. Yeah. 699 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,500 Yeah. Gloating people's socks off. 700 00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:05,200 Absolutely, you know, is it's, it's such a catchy thing, as 701 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,900 well, which is why I wanted to include it. 702 00:48:06,900 --> 00:48:13,400 I've had had a little bit of an idea of looking at Theme tunes 703 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,900 for sellers early films and I'd found quite a lot of them. 704 00:48:17,900 --> 00:48:22,900 But to be honest, they didn't do an awful lot for me as pieces of 705 00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:24,100 music. But I'm all right. 706 00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:28,000 Jack two-way, stretch. Yes, all well, they're there to 707 00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:31,800 goodies and I think it's, it would be nice to find a spot for 708 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,600 those at the very end. Yeah. 709 00:48:34,300 --> 00:48:40,100 And of course, you've got the Lucky Strike, the one of the 710 00:48:40,500 --> 00:48:43,100 closing. Hasn't changed from the gator 711 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,700 along with crazy Rhythm. Yes, absolutely. 712 00:48:48,100 --> 00:48:51,700 That's from the Goon With the Wind George Martin produced EP. 713 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:59,600 Once again something that's been neglected by compilers for very 714 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:09,100 very long time. Lucky Strike always intrigues 715 00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:13,000 me. Hmm, because again, we've 716 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,300 covered this on the podcast previously but Lucky Strike 717 00:49:16,900 --> 00:49:19,600 replaces. Two goons Gallop? 718 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,200 Yeah, it was as a thing tree, but it replaces. 719 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:27,700 It halfway through a series, it kicks in you first hear Lucky 720 00:49:27,700 --> 00:49:31,600 Strike. On the jet pal, guided naffy, 721 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:36,400 which I think it's a 19th episode of series sticks. 722 00:49:37,300 --> 00:49:40,000 And I just, I'd love to know the rationale behind that. 723 00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:44,000 I'd love to know why they decided to do that and it's an 724 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,300 interesting writing credit as well. 725 00:49:46,300 --> 00:49:50,600 The fact that railing they credited as part writer in that, 726 00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:56,500 maybe it came out of some form of improvisation or Jam. 727 00:49:57,300 --> 00:49:59,400 He be at a recording. I don't know. 728 00:50:00,300 --> 00:50:03,000 Do you know who Lori Denise's? I don't know off the top of my 729 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,300 head who Lori didn't is happens to be the third writer. 730 00:50:06,300 --> 00:50:11,400 But certainly, the fact that Ray is Is named as a writer. 731 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,800 It may well be that there was some form of jam between 732 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:20,100 musicians at at a gun show recording and that sort of came 733 00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:21,100 out of it. I don't know. 734 00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:22,700 Maybe. Yeah. 735 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,700 And then the, the CD is rounded off with a couple of. 736 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,300 I mean, I listen to the both of their instantly recognizable, 737 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,700 not maybe a meat, not when you first and I'm not when they 738 00:50:31,700 --> 00:50:35,100 start necessarily but you very quickly realize that they are. 739 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,400 For example, you're dancing on my heart, which is regularly a 740 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,000 piece of music regularly featured. 741 00:50:40,100 --> 00:50:45,200 And yes in the Goon show and and I'll try and pronounce this. 742 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:53,000 I don't have the French but Sue let trois dig Perry chess which 743 00:50:53,300 --> 00:50:55,600 are welcome play clip. So people will recognize what 744 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,600 I'm talking about but they immediately bring the Goon show 745 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,300 to mind when you hear those bits of music. 746 00:51:52,300 --> 00:51:57,600 This no real sort of soundtrack to the goons as far as you know, 747 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,600 the music that was used in it. But you know these two were 748 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:06,100 reused so regularly, I thought well they sort of fit so I 749 00:52:06,100 --> 00:52:10,300 thought well if I wanted to sort of bring everything That I 750 00:52:10,308 --> 00:52:13,700 possibly could to the table to this a obviously, all the 751 00:52:14,300 --> 00:52:17,000 related people, but related music as well. 752 00:52:17,700 --> 00:52:20,100 Sure. And as I said, I mean you've got 753 00:52:20,100 --> 00:52:25,700 so we've discussed Ellington geldray, Chisholm sellers 754 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:30,700 Milligan, seek Him film soundtracks as well and and 755 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,600 there's some Somali start Orchestra as well. 756 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:40,400 Mr. Lucky and so in total you looking at what 34 tracks 30 757 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:41,500 board tracks. Yeah. 758 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,700 And it but it's not you know it's all on one CD is not a 759 00:52:45,700 --> 00:52:47,600 double CD because they're only short and they. 760 00:52:47,900 --> 00:52:51,200 Yes there are short and but we know we fill up as close to the 761 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,800 sort of 80 minute limit, we possibly could try and make it 762 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,500 value for money as it were. And yeah, I just think it's an 763 00:52:58,500 --> 00:53:01,800 interesting and eclectic collection of stuff that a lot 764 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,900 of goon show fans aren't that familiar with. 765 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:11,100 Well I as you know I tweeted about it and Them definitely 766 00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:13,800 post on Facebook about it and it was amazing response to it. 767 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,000 Just people say, oh my God I must order this, you know, they 768 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:20,300 looked at the track listing and immediate take up from it and 769 00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:22,300 and it's absolutely. I mean it was it something I 770 00:53:22,300 --> 00:53:24,100 899? Yeah. 771 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,600 Absolutely. It's snip and any 772 00:53:27,900 --> 00:53:33,400 self-respecting goon show fan or even I'd say you know, any 773 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:38,300 comedy fat, any jazz fan even or early British Jazz would you say 774 00:53:38,700 --> 00:53:39,900 absolutely? Yes. 775 00:53:41,300 --> 00:53:44,300 Or big band. Music would, you know, you need 776 00:53:44,300 --> 00:53:47,700 to get your hands on this. So it says, it's called an album 777 00:53:47,700 --> 00:53:51,900 called Fred, and it's on Jasmine just Jasmin, you're Jasmin 778 00:53:51,900 --> 00:53:54,700 records, just Google, Jasmine records, you should be able to 779 00:53:54,700 --> 00:53:57,100 find it quite easily, fix that and, and what. 780 00:53:57,100 --> 00:53:59,100 So, you've obviously you've touched on. 781 00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:01,500 You've got other things you're working on at the moment. 782 00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:03,800 Yes. Any future plans. 783 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,400 Anything you'd love to to work on that you haven't sort of 784 00:54:08,300 --> 00:54:10,000 realized yet. There's all sorts. 785 00:54:10,100 --> 00:54:11,300 Stuff. I'd love to work on. 786 00:54:12,100 --> 00:54:18,000 It's the picking something out would be difficult, I'd love to 787 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,900 do another ray Ellington set. I helped I didn't compile the 788 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:28,300 other one that I did, one for restored, one for Jasmine. 789 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,900 Yeah, a couple of years back and that after all of that material 790 00:54:32,900 --> 00:54:37,500 is actually from my collection and I would love to do a 791 00:54:37,500 --> 00:54:39,900 follow-up because the still quite a lot of race. 792 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,600 These recordings that haven't ever been reissued. 793 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,400 There's particularly he's first to Colombia discs which I'm 794 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,900 still searching for. Have you been in contact at all 795 00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:56,800 with Lance his son in a roundabout way? 796 00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,700 We keep saying that. We must have a chat at some 797 00:54:59,700 --> 00:55:03,600 point, but I never have actually managed to do that yet because 798 00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:08,300 he is a mutual friend of Michelle Monroe, because she 799 00:55:08,300 --> 00:55:12,700 knew Ray and Matt knew. Well, and she knew Ray and in 800 00:55:12,700 --> 00:55:17,200 fact racing at her 21st birthday party, you know, so wow. 801 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:22,100 Yes, of course. So yeah, one of these days, I 802 00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:26,700 will get to have a chat with Lance and I would say, I mean, I 803 00:55:26,700 --> 00:55:30,300 would hope that, you know, he's got some rare stuff that I would 804 00:55:30,300 --> 00:55:33,500 love to be able to hear you just don't know. 805 00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:35,900 I suppose, what people people have got squirreled away. 806 00:55:37,100 --> 00:55:41,400 But say, yes, I would really like to get At a another 807 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,500 railings and set out. I have actually done a hairy set 808 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:50,200 for Jasmine containing some really early Harry seeking 809 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,500 material, which may not be a major interest to given fans 810 00:55:54,500 --> 00:55:56,000 perhaps but you know you never know. 811 00:55:57,500 --> 00:56:00,700 Yes so I do love comedy material. 812 00:56:00,700 --> 00:56:03,700 So yeah I noticed on Jasmine Jasmine have got, there's a 813 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,800 cribbins collection. There's a that was me all right. 814 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,900 Okay yep. And even a seller's I didn't. 815 00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:12,300 Don't see that sellers one. What's on the sellers one? 816 00:56:12,300 --> 00:56:15,100 Does it just usually? It's a, it's a cross reference 817 00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:19,500 of everything I think from Yak are up to right? 818 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,400 But Peter, and Sofia, I would think, you know, just a sort of 819 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,200 General overview that say, I didn't. 820 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,800 I wasn't involved with that particular set, so I can't tell 821 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,700 you exactly what's on it. But yeah, I did that, I did the 822 00:56:31,700 --> 00:56:34,300 Bernard cribbins. I've always, once again, it's 823 00:56:34,308 --> 00:56:39,300 another George Martin, of course, of course, and actually 824 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:46,600 It was just strange really that the pretty much the day that was 825 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,100 announced as a release was the day that we lost him. 826 00:56:49,100 --> 00:56:53,000 Unfortunately, it was just, it's just this, this is funny things 827 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,800 that happen in that way in life, isn't it really but there you 828 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,100 go. Yeah I should just actually give 829 00:56:59,100 --> 00:57:03,900 a shout out to a guy called Dave Hudson at this point because 830 00:57:03,900 --> 00:57:07,700 when I was putting the album together, I was really stuck for 831 00:57:07,700 --> 00:57:11,100 a title and I was going through all Not two different things. 832 00:57:11,100 --> 00:57:14,200 I like I couldn't make my mind up so I actually went to the gun 833 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,100 show Facebook page and said, look guys, this is what I'm 834 00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:19,200 doing. Have you got any ideas? 835 00:57:19,700 --> 00:57:22,300 And it was a guy named Dave Hudson, and if you're listening 836 00:57:22,300 --> 00:57:25,200 Dave, thank you very much. He came up with the title, an 837 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,400 album called Fred brilliant. Well done Dave, well, they do. 838 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,600 Oh, last thing on that, the artwork for the CD, where did 839 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,900 Jessica? I've seen that, I've seen those 840 00:57:34,900 --> 00:57:37,500 caricatures before. Where, how did you sort of? 841 00:57:37,700 --> 00:57:41,700 I actually don't know because that's in the Hands of the art 842 00:57:41,700 --> 00:57:45,300 department at Jasmine, who looked into that day there they 843 00:57:45,300 --> 00:57:47,000 give me some options. Yeah. 844 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:53,700 And they gave me an option with photographs of all three of them 845 00:57:54,000 --> 00:58:00,000 and one with the the drawn caricatures and I much prefer 846 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,600 the caricature. So they went with that one but I 847 00:58:01,607 --> 00:58:03,800 had absolutely no idea where they come from a fuel. 848 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:08,300 Okay, okay listen Richard, it's been brilliant, speaking to you. 849 00:58:08,300 --> 00:58:12,200 Thank you so much, is it? It's a marvelous CD, and I'm 850 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:13,500 sure that everyone listen to this. 851 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,800 If they haven't already, will be rushing out to our price or 852 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,100 ordering it online, more likely and more than likely these days. 853 00:58:21,100 --> 00:58:25,300 Yes, and more power to your elbow for future projects and 854 00:58:25,300 --> 00:58:28,400 Endeavors you very much. And and we may speak again in 855 00:58:28,408 --> 00:58:29,700 the future. Absolutely. 856 00:58:29,700 --> 00:58:32,100 Thank you. Thanks again to Richard. 857 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,700 Thanks for listening, as always. 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