yeah, if you could just direct your line to that, Sorry to keep
praying here Bat-Mite. But don't you know who I am?
Yeah, once you in Peter Pan with a crutch,
we wouldn't stand for it. No, I'm Tommy.
And our little chummy Grand. I don't, you remember?
Hello and welcome to goon pod which as this week we're talking
about, Eric Sykes creator of such Classics as the plank
really should be mostly conducted in silence, but that
doesn't really make for interesting listening.
So instead I've roped in to tally addicts to join me on my
podcast today, we have Lisa Parker and Andrew Trowbridge.
Hello, we're back. Yes, from the back.
Yes, because you came too. Talk about potty time.
That's right. It's time yes I was worried this
might be our difficult second album but actually I think we've
got some interesting stuff. Let's hope.
So anyway and of course you too although all over podcasting you
have your own Juggernaut which is around the archives.
How's that going at the moment? Well, we've just got our 65th
episode out. That's right.
Isn't it? So you?
On a piece on the shadow of the tower.
Yes, absolutely. Certain that the lesser-known of
the Tudor dramas from the early 70s.
Yes. And a friend, Martin's done a
piece on NYPD Blue, which is apparently 30 years old this
year, yes, which made him feel old and a piece on two episodes
of The Avengers yes as well. So have a lab, have a listen to
those very good but this This week, you have come along to
talk about a particular sitcom from the 1970s, which I must
admit. This is a weird one for me,
okay. Because I remember that when I
was a very young child, I used to enjoy Sykes because it is
Sykes that we are talking about today.
I enjoyed Sykes but I don't have any memories of it if that's not
me. I couldn't point to a particular
episode or seen or joke or sequence from Sykes.
I don't have any. I just remember that I used to
enjoy it when I was probably I don't know, five or six when it
used to be on the Telly, right? So, and I Really gone back as an
adult and Revisited it. And there's only one episode
that I have watched more than once, which will come to.
But yeah, my, my knowledge of Sykes, the, the 70s Show is
fairly limited. So, do you guys, I mean, are you
guys huge fans? Are you?
Well versed in the world of this sitcom not really.
We do have a DVD set which we could fight currently buried.
Underneath our vast files. DVDs, when we watch this, we
watched it on brick box. Some streamed, it was immensely
frustrating because it kept, it kept telling us were offline
which we were, and then it would just buffer buffer.
So yeah, I mean, I'm a few years older than you.
Yes, sir and I have vague memories of Sykes being on the
Telly. I suspect you have no memory at
all. Well this this episode that we
watched Shown the year. I was born.
Yes. Oh yeah.
I have literally done. Everything runs up until what
79, so you don't really remember, 79 very much to you.
But yeah, I but then I guess Eric Sykes could probably make
the same complaint that the goodies make and that it very
rarely got repeated after a certain point.
Yeah this episode perhaps has done the rounds more than others
because I think there were some repeats in In the 90s.
And but yeah it is one of those sitcoms that you hit 1980 and
all of a sudden it starts to fall off the radar.
I think so. Yeah.
It's interests risk. Interesting.
The way things fade away. Yeah, this was was this base was
the 70s Sykes show was a lot of it, remakes of his earlier
series, which was called what Sykes and ah, well this episode
Is because this is called stranger.
And of course, has Peter Sellers in playing what is it?
Bobby Tommy told me, Grandma, let's get that right.
I keep wanting to say Bobby shafto, and we'll get onto that
Tommy Grande. But it's a remake of an episode
from 1961, which starred, Leo mckern in the same row.
So, I can't quite imagine that. Now, I haven't looked To see
whether that episode exists or not.
I'm not sure any of those things.
Some do, those them does, I believe it does.
Yeah. There's it her, I'd be
interested to see what the differences are and how he's
playing it. Cuz I can't, I can't sort of
equate, Leo mckern and Peter Sellers playing the same part,
but what interested. There's a course, there is a
very strong link between the Summers and Macomb because they
appeared in a number of films together in the earlier days.
And, also, Leo, mckern is in the running.
Can standing still film. All right.
Okay, from 59 with Sellers and Milligan.
I just wanted. Yeah, Leo mckern, I wonder how
he would play it or how he would have played it.
I just what I suspect there. Be less giggling in studio.
Yes, because of you seen quick, if you seen the studio tapes of
sellers have a maze, they finished it to be honest.
Yeah, before we get on to the, the episode oh, what Memories do
you both have in general of Eric Sykes?
What do you do? If you don't associate an
associate of necessary with this show?
Is there? Anything else?
Is that the plank? Is it rhubarb rhubarb?
Is it anything in particular that you?
I think, I think it is actually more the silent movie stuff
because I know a friend of ours. Nick is quite a big fan of those
films and I know he definitely bought me some copies once for
her birthday or Christmas. Yes, it's been a while since
I've seen them but yeah, he's just one of those sort of Comedy
names that you know certainly from my point of view I felt I
sort of knew of him but didn't know much about him.
Yeah I think for me it was just it's just there.
Yeah. And for me I would probably have
seen him more on talk shows and other people's this is your
lives and things like that rather than in comedy.
Programs. Ya.
Thank ya. That mean there's a there's that
line in. Is it the last goon trouble
speak up. Eric Sykes is in the audience.
Yeah. So almost view from that point
of view references to him. In other things.
Maybe, I don't know interesting than others.
Of course, he has that link to the goons because he wrote
co-wrote. Yeah, quite a number with Spike.
Well, I was going to ask you about that because it's weights.
What series 5 in Series 6. He gets a lot of writing.
With Spike credits of Series 5 yet and a handful of series six
year. But how much of it actually is
is Spike and how much of it is Sykes?
Do you think? Well, it's split, there's been
some government-funded research into this question is no, there
has a just pink amateurs theorizing within within the
Goon community. And in also I think I think Eric
said in An interview, he indicated that he inspired would
usually write the bulk of the show's separately.
So one week it would be mainly, Eric's show, and the next week
it would be spikes but they would both do a bit like Lennon.
And McCartney, they both get a Coke you know, joint credit.
Yeah you can kind of tell an Eric episode because they tend
to be a slightly more structured and less but there's something
resembling a plot is the yeah. But I was looking at is sort of
work is early work and I came across a thing called Archie in
goon land. Now it was just the crossover
between the Goon show in educating archery and apparently
no recording nor script survives of it and I just wonder if
that's a blessing, I don't know. There is a script I do have
always. There is great.
Oh, you do have a copy or Wikipedia is wrong?
Then? I was going to check, actually,
you've reminded me because I was going to check for the purposes
of this. I was going to check, if Hattie
was in that episode because Hattie was course in educating
Archie. But I, yeah, I didn't check if
she was in that particular crossover Archie in Greenland
because Harry Harry. Certainly was in both shows.
Wasn't he Harry was in both? Yeah, yeah, of course.
It was. It was, that was sort of Tony
Hancock's. First big Shaastra.
Yeah, just on Hetty. I mean my mother I have more of
a memory of Howdy Jake. So I think when I was a kid
because of the carry on Films? Yes, I think that's true of
everyone. And I love, I mean, I think to
me personally because what my favorite Carry On Film, I think
it's almost fashionable to say this.
These days is carry on at your convenience.
Oh, funny. We would couple of friends of
ours were talking about this just yesterday and and saying
how much we like that one? So, Yes.
Yeah, I love it and I particularly love Hattie Jake's
in that with the budgie. Yeah.
Oh yes. Something you really ought to
make some sort of noise about some dinner.
Oh no, it's got plenty to eat. For me, not for him.
I'm Jack missing then. No didn't little tell you
there's another strike on. I just rushed upstairs to wash
your hair or something. I wonder what she was doing.
I'm lunchtime, you know, don't you did he Big game, don't give
me. No, T me, something to eat,
that's something for me for Pete's sake.
Oh well could make you some beans on toast I think now
nothing elaborate thank you. There is a Hattie Jake's thing
we have got, isn't there yet? So that you talked about
recently on what excellent condition on Sand?
And it's a thing called misadventure.
Yes. Have you heard of that?
No. No, it's basically how do you?
She's Happy Jake's is a private investigator in the 60s.
It's a late 60s, a TV, serial ABC, ABC of which only one
episode survives. And she got goes, goes off to
some Greek island. Yes to investigate.
Yeah. So today she's been
investigating bilker. Yeah.
Bill, can you get to the island? And so she goes to the artist
Greek island to tell the person who's paying for the
investigation, what she's learnt and then it all spirals into
something else. But it's one of the few things
I've seen where there's no mention of her size.
For example, it's played really, really straight.
Yes. And it's really interesting to
see, then you get to the end of part one.
Yeah. And that's all you.
That's all you can watch. And it's Knowing I almost want
to write some fan fiction, just to finish this off.
It's so interesting according to Wikipedia because I had to look
at her entry area that she was a bit disappointed because she
wanted to be, it ended up being a bit more comedic around played
for like constant. So it's not funny and she wanted
it to be more serious to show what she could do.
So, it obviously goes off into a different direction during the
series, but obviously, as you say, it doesn't exist so we
can't see it. Oh well.
Alright, alright new Ends of the next episode they say.
Yeah. With a bit more great.
Yeah. Yeah.
Some swearing or something. What did you think?
Because I haven't seen it for a long time.
The the was it BBC for drama about Hattie?
Jake's? Was it called?
Hattie, did you want? Yes, yeah, I've seen I think I
watch that. Yeah, I think it's really
interesting. It does, it plays a certainly
shows a very sympathetically, I think, I know.
Has some is, was quoted as saying it was a very authentic.
Portrayal that Ruth Jones who plays I had captured the essence
of her. Yeah, but one thing that stands
out for me is it just shows what a nice good gentlemanly.
Man that John the measure a was. Yeah, because the fact that he
allowed himself to be divorced so that Hattie's career wouldn't
be affected. Both that Infamous.
This is your life. Appear.
Yes. Mmm.
Yeah. Where they're basically?
He's living in the room. Upstairs in the Attic.
Yeah, yeah, so yeah. What was it?
Used car salesmen or something? Yes, yes he was tipped but this
is going to sound awful, but I think he was a bit of rough
Really Ever After guy, who was so gentlemanly and nice and
maybe kapadia says that if this John Scofield is thing, was gave
her the support and love that John the measure a couldn't or
didn't. Ain't ya and I'm thinking I
think it's just literally he was so different from John le
mesurier a that she was attracted to the right.
Alright. See ya.
Yeah but I think she probably regretted it yeah, afterwards.
So, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so yes.
So as we've already alluded to were talking about the episode
of Sykes from I think it's series series 2.
I've got dates. I haven't got series.
It's listed as one on brick box and one on Wikipedia IMDb but
series series, 18 series one? Yes actually sir it's called
stranger and of course, guest stars, Peter Sellers and it was
broadcast on 19th of October 1972.
Andrew. You mentioned the last going to
of all before? Yeah, that was recorded on the
30th of April 1972. Which was a Sunday.
Yeah. Yeah, two days after that.
Peter Sellers filmed Sykes. Cool, goodness.
Say he was, he was a busy boy that week.
It was he was and, and I'd like to think and I assume obviously
that the arrangements and agreements had me had been made
before they record a bit. I'm sure it's not the case that
the after drinks party. For the last going to of all
Eric Sykes come up, tap them on the shoulder and said, hey
Peter, do you fancy being on my show?
Is that but it's certainly around that time and, and
sellers apparently waived his usual fee and yes, happy to work
it, you know, standard BBC rates, which was, which was good
of him and it was also I believe it was kept a secret from the
audience that he was going to be.
Yes, we were just really watching the bit where he comes
in the door and the audience seemed a little shocked.
Yeah, that's it. He's one of two people in that
episode, that get a Round of Applause, Just for walking
through a door. Yeah, hmm.
He's not necessarily instantly recognizable.
In his, get up it with his with no air in the nose and
everything. So maybe it does.
It takes a split second for the penny to drop, but I just before
we took, I just I was looking because I always like to do
this. I was looking at what else was
on TV that night. That.
Hey, Jeff here too. Yes.
What do you want to go ahead? Then Andrew.
Well, I think an important thing for sort of TV fans, it's also
the night of the first episode of cold.
It's yep. So that's that's nice from our
point of view as we can ring that the Michael sheared klaxon.
Yeah, dear boy. There's an episode of Monty
Python's Flying Circus on with you two with Julia brick
credited. I'm trying to work out which
episode there is. It's, it's the one it's in, the
Jewels Saga. Wickers world.
All right, it's the first episode of the third Series.
Yeah. Cuz the description isn't
terribly helpful. Know what really amused me is.
The thing that's on just before the weatherman at midnight, I
think I've never heard of 11:35 at night, animal design,
strength without skeletons. Tony Soper looks at the role of
It in the body of CN enemies. Somebody's got to I guess when
was the Golden Age of Television meant to be again very, very
bikes. I guess at that time of that you
can check any old rubbish do girl.
Yeah and of course the top of the pops had that week had
Lieutenant pigeon with moldy old dope which yes was actually the
anthem of 972 that's And you've got your classic Tomorrow's
World setup of Raymond Baxter, Willie Willard and Michael Rod,
which is I have memories of them as a team.
Did you, did you happen to see what was on ITV that night?
I haven't got the a TV listings with two hand.
What was on? Okay?
So oddly, there's a new series of Joker's Wild begins smokers.
Wild you need be Yeah, but it's all in the it's on like 1:00 in
the afternoon. Yeah.
The scheduling for that is really odd.
Yeah. And I think after that, it was
the premiere of General Hospital.
First of all, General Hospital have you.
If you guys have a covered that, on round the archives.
We haven't, we have, we got some, we do have some DVDs
somewhere. Yeah.
Okay. Yeah, we if we see we've seen a
few, Yeah yeah yeah. That was the last one I saw.
There was some sort of somebody had been burned with some acid
that yeah one of those assets that you can't do anything about
do nice. Not hydrofluoric acid.
Have been a casualty did there. Yeah.
That's a horrible episode of casualty big bread.
When a hog didn't it? Oh gosh.
Yeah, I've worked with HF. It's horrible stuff.
Yeah, a little later, in the afternoon, there's a Pete of an
episode of the mind of mr. JG reader.
Sorry I'm just, I've just gotten off to my happy place.
I love that show. Yeah, it's great.
It's great. Yeah, I love will be God.
Yeah, yeah, terrible trouble, we really got the old ones.
Didn't you? Every time?
You said it, we got the giggles. It took us about five takes to
actually be for some, for some reason we were recording an
article once, and I had to say, and then Willoughby Goddard
comes in and then what you said, it, the world.
Yes, we will. Briefly returned to mr.
JG reader, little bit later. Yes.
But I know what the connection is.
Yeah. And lastly I just want to
mention that at 10:30 in the evening on ITV there was the
television show Cinema. Okay.
And on that particular evening, Clive James was talking to Peter
Sellers about his new film God, he's all over the place but the
problem the problem Andrew is that he's talking about the
film. Where does it hurt right.
Oh, I know the name that if either of you heard of that
film, I've heard that I've hey, I have a but you can have to
remind me what that I would consider it to be possibly his
worst film ever. I mean, goes to the Noonday Sun.
Gets a lot of flack, but I find that quite enjoyable.
Where does it hurt? I think is terrible.
I think it's abysmal. I think it's an Abomination, but
the blurb under the TV times blurb reads, it says his first
new film for two years. Where does it hurt addicted to
put the Stardust to firmly back onto a glittering career?
Mmm, not really. I'll show you.
Can't be right about everything. So so there we go.
Yep. So that's put you know put this
show into a little bit of context and terms of what was
you know, what the television viewing public we're watching
that evening and let us talk about the show itself.
I have a swig of that me I'll China that will blow the back
your shirt up, that's powerful that.
Yeah, but you're drinking in the wrong way, you're not getting
the benefits might If you let go, download that, if that right
book is done, you attacked a sweet light out, giving someone
a backhand net and get out of tubes down.
Now, put your drink down the legs, in the flab attack, a
Joker's out with, I could Kim. Can you talk me through the
opening titles? Because they're quite yes.
Yes, you can add You almost said, don't say this ideally
server. It sounds but yeah, because it's
because it seems to be slightly Rude.
The Happy Jake's it in a very sort of surreal, sort of way.
Yes. But you start off with this sort
of drumbeat thing, then you've got the logo site.
Buy my program aims are yellow. Yeah.
And there's this, it's basically a drum.
It's being beaten. So, and then you go into the
sort of brass music. I guess you call it.
I don't know whether The trumpet or coordinate that's playing.
And I said to you Lisa, what's the difference between a trumpet
in a corner and what was my outside?
You can't put ice truck, ice cream in a crab.
A crab pit. Let's ramp it.
On the mind, you can't put ice cream in the trumpet.
Thank you. And the valves go up and down.
Yes. And Eric Sykes is name appears
and then the Music hits at a lower pitch, and all three
valves go down together as Hattie.
Jake's his name. Appears now from The Mists of
time, I remember as a kid thinking that, that imply that
Hattie Jake's was sitting on the on the trumpet because she was a
larger lady yet fairly certain they were implying that her
weight made all the valves go down.
I don't know if that's the intention but as Implication.
There you think that's fair to say?
Yeah, yeah. And, and I have watched a few
episodes of Sykes haven't watched by, any means, all of
them. But I've seen a few and they do
tend to begin with some sort of caption at the, at the start.
Yeah. As in this case and you have you
have the dulcet tones of Derek guyler.
Sorry. So you have to cheer when Derek
guile or even a there's a voiceover do you know we'll get
on to Derek. I want to talk about Derrick
Carter later but I'll say for now friends and I have spent one
evening spent and in decent amount of time talking about
Derek Gile has hair whole. Yes, he's hairy his hair for a
man that age. This was one of the wonders of
the world. I think I know a thing of
Wonder. Yeah, I think there might be a
little bit of Grecian 2000 on their own.
Yes, true. But so the, the the the duration
goes, you see, Eric sitting on a on the couch and the narration
goes, if you feel that your life is dull humdrum and gray, be
thankful and Eric's doing something with string.
I don't quite know what he's doing with string but he's doing
something with string. What is the perfect?
Catch like a crazed grade oarsmen.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The implication here is that we
might be going into it, like, a sort of Sunday afternoon at Home
episode. Yeah, that's all Victor meldrew.
Because he's just very bored. Isn't it yet?
And he's just finding things to do and how he's doing a
crossword? Not the Times crossword.
It's just no, it's nearly mirror.
Whatever, three letters animal felines be.
I get the invitation it's like a local newspaper.
Yeah. Crossword like the sort of, I
don't know where they live, but wherever they Loop appetizer or
something, well, I thought of the there's a to Ronnies sketch
where that, The Two Ronnies have got two different crosswords and
Ronnie Corbett's. Got this really simple and runny
Burgers doing the Mephistopheles in the times and it's the one
that ends with the joke found at the bottom of bird cages.
Yes four letters ends with 80. And I'm sure you can look the
rest of that sketch out but great.
Wasn't it, great is the answer but that's not what Barbara
News, Nana's got. If she asked for a rubber.
Yeah, it's quite an amusing little bit here with the
crossword because it Eric suggest dog, even though she's.
Yeah. Philo.
Well, no, because it starts with a see.
What are you didn't tell me that did you?
Car is the other one. Yeah, a car's not an animal as
is it's a pig. Yes.
What does it right? I know you're not that familiar
with Sykes either, but do we not does?
Eric have a job in this always? You just permanently?
I know, because I had a quick look through the series just to
say. But I know, at some point, you
seems to work in a bus depot. All right?
So that's news to me, but Only because there's somebody that
uniform and because he's about 50 at this point.
Yes me, yeah. Give or take and, and he's just
gently sort of drifts around. So you know whether they could
have done a crossover with Last of the Summer Wine or something.
I don't know. Maybe he's got a sort of private
income maybe, you know, I don't know.
So so he's walking around the room and listlessly.
He tries to feed the fish but he's already fed.
Your phone's the speaking clock, and he's smoking a cigar as
well. All the all the while and he
goes up. Yes, yeah, we noted this ago.
Yeah, yeah. Goes up with cuckoo clock close,
some cigar smoke in and then quite sweetly.
Yeah, there's cookie coughing Peter, the cookie.
Now a question for you do you have any memories of seeing
Vision on? Oh yes I do.
Yes. You do well as a kid, one of my
favorite bits Envision on was always the bit with the cuckoo
clock. There was an animated cuckoo
clock that used to come out and move the arms around and I sort
of had it in the back of my head, that maybe this cook who
was cuckoo clock Peter because they call it Peter.
Is he hasn't got a name whether it was related to the one from
Vision on. I don't know because that, you
know, how a cuckoo clock can cough.
I don't know. Is it actually a real cocoa
because they say he's Getting old, but then it says, it's made
of wood. Yeah, episodes the one invasion
of. All right.
Okay, I doubt though Eric puts his coat on cuts the head of a
tulip. It was looking at me.
It was looking at me is his reason.
No. That's right.
It was giving a funny look. Yeah.
And the doorbell rings. That they say, is it the rent
man? Yeah, so they don't own their
house. Yeah.
If I don't think a lot of people did at that point.
I think you had to have, I mean, my parents are around their
house. They bought their house in the
late fifties, but I think it was amongst some levels of society.
I think it's quite a rare thing. My parents never owned know
their house. No, I mean, even when my parents
owned the house, they didn't have a telephone.
A phone, and if I remember one time, but somebody knocking on
the door because but my my nan had found the telephone box
outside, can you knock on the door?
The door and get my son? I'll be you just wouldn't get
that these days. So the current that I don't
know. But yeah, she's just this like,
just big. Excuse me, your mom was on the
phone. I've got it doesn't ever fail.
It doesn't matter. With his back to the door set on
the couch and then we get the entrance.
The first entrance of Peter Sellers, why does it something
different? Not unless you say the audience,
very surprised and gets a nice round of applause.
And what's he wear like that Jackie's.
Where is that cool? Is that cool?
Donkey jacket that is wearing or what?
What is that kind of? Yeah, it's kind of like a donkey
jacket. Sort of like the thing workmen
would ya? Because I think because it's got
letters on the back of it isn't, it didn't, right?
The letters. And I think that maybe my
pleases his nickname from someone.
Yeah, it's like a somebody's work jacket.
Yeah. And he's stolen it, it's the
letters are kbh settled. Only click any click any idea?
What that's temperature will be some sort of borough, you know,
like a borough of like a council Berra.
Yeah, I don't know what but because we're because you see
because he you don't see those letters until he turns around,
but he doesn't turn around until about two-thirds of the way into
the episode know. And you think and I'm thinking
all the while there's a reason what we can see, you know, you
get a little glimpse of a bit of white lettering.
Yeah. From time to time at the
beginning and you think I'm going to type it into Google Now
kbh. Now the now this is a long shot
but you never know but you think there's something there's going
to be a big reveal with that, but there is a did you find kph?
Well, the first entry on Google is kbh games, it's really play
online. Line web games, we have a large
collection of online. A Friday night, funkin games for
you to play. I don't think it's that someday
put-put London borough behind. It seems that brings anything up
and embarrass so kph Training Academy.
No sir. No, no, that's how I do it.
Everybody knows that's no. Absolutely.
And, you know, he's got this big, he's got his hair, his
also, Used up under. He's got a fake schnoz like the
character. He played the Irish character
who played in the film, The Naked Truth.
Yeah, it's hair. Is hair.
Actually reminds me of Harry H Corbett and carry on screaming
when he turns into a werewolf. Yes, yes, it does.
It's a bit sort of widow's peak e.
Eddie Munster, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, possibly Ray
Reardon. I don't know, maybe dance was
much flatter than the Ravens was so plastered to his head
virtually. Yes, re read and use that.
And half of that of oil on his hair everyday, didn't lots of
Brylcreem. Yeah.
And this character sellers the character that sellers playing.
He immediately invades Hattiesburg tax base, shall we
say of? And Eric's kind of at first
oblivious to this and then he, he notices and he tries to
intervene And gets the first of many instances where he's thrown
over the couch. By sellers, Eric over sofa,
stunt is what it says. It is a stunt is a start and I'm
absolutely amazed that they let him do it.
Yeah, because you've eaten. Thank you recording.
Yeah, that would be that, that's true.
Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
Peter Sellers is we come to learn is a character.
He used to be known as little Tommy Grando.
He's now all growed up, of course, and he's got the Cockney
voice is doing a cockney voice, with shades of Michael, Caine
he, they all used to play together around the back of the
bakery when they were kids and this is the point where you get
a deity gray edit. Yes, because the studio footage
that exists, this is where the giggling starts with the sky
with the stunt sequence and there's about seven minutes of
Studio footage. Mostly consisting of Sellers and
Sykes, laughing their heads off, that is very professional.
Yeah, Hattie holds it together, the other two together, a bit
awful because it does bring to mind the things Catherine shell
used to say about working with sellers.
Yeah, there's that scene in one of the Pink Panther films where
he's the chief troubleshooter and it comes to repair the phone
in the scene, involves him David Lodge.
He was in Kabul show Heroes. You know, he was at Catherine,
shell of a basically took all day to fill one scene.
Yeah. Because they couldn't get
through it without giggling. Yeah.
And I think there's a fair bit of that here.
That's the that's the thing with that film return, the Pink
Panther, there's a scene where salads is dressed up as sort of
a lothario tries to chat up, Catherine shell and she'll just
bursts into giggles And they just leave it in Blake Edwards
decided to leave it in because they just couldn't get any other
performance out of it as quite as well.
Yeah, there is a looking at a year kid.
What was it that you said Lisa their own about?
Take 37 and somebody wanted to cough.
Yeah. They weren't they broke for
lunch. They came back from lunch and
they're on, take 37 and so far it's going.
Okay. Yeah.
Nobody's giggling. And there's a noise and
black-eyed was stops the fitting and he's like, like, how was
that? How was I, who made a noise?
And according to Katherine, show a little man puts his hand up
for part of the camera and like, sorry girl.
That was me. I had to have a car.
If when he's like well Kaufman cough, it's your health.
Don't worry about it. It's only a fair lady.
I guess. It's Peter Sellers.
You've just gotta go with it anyway.
So yeah. That like so the seven minutes
of Cut materials, bloopers and and I think one of you pointed
out to me when we were preparing for the show that we do.
We hear the disembodied voice of Felix bonus.
That's right. He's the warm-up ma'am.
It's oh yes. Yeah, yes.
Talking to the, the audience at a bakery.
Also Bakery and loot. Mm.
Yeah. I don't quite what.
Is that dress? I want a dress.
That's what I want to get out of it.
No, I Eric, let him have it. You can always buy another one.
Yeah, I'm doing mine up here. You're not taking place apply
button. Notice.
No, are you fancy me? How dare you have a Gavin
laughs? Have you lost it?
Not for the bakery or a twins. Baker is if your boot food in
Luton, that's right. And bred in Newton, I just do
your family sort of baked it, is it?
Because I could I do the mother's pregnant.
I don't know how much more material there is because I
think this is just as an edit of it, isn't it?
Yeah. I mean Studio material is is
deadly dull if you watch it all but yeah that the seven minutes
here are quite interesting to see ya.
What you can see Tommy, producers out of his coat.
This foul intoxicating liquor is his special Brew.
He calls it that. Can we do the actions here?
Because you have to drink it in a special way.
You have to swing it down and hit the back of your neck and
then do a pulling action with your arm to get it down your
tubes. That's right little Iraq.
Evaporates and his explanation. He starts to go a bit of Stanley
Unwin, don't ya? Because don't the subtitles just
say talks nonsense. Yeah, something like that
inaudible or something. So yeah, you get the tube today
event. I think want to know though, if
as we will, where he has been. So yeah, because it's like, from
the episode. How did he make it?
Yeah. Where did he get access to it?
Because it involves, what was it really Ghent?
And boot polish, yes, or no. I'll shave gin aftershave and
boot polish. Yeah, and it was it Eric has a
bit in these eyes glow. Thanks to added boot polish.
That's almost a goon show line. Yeah, yeah.
Can remember the drink that Eddie makes in bottom hole?
God? No.
They're what was that? I think it's like.
Is it called the Esther rantzen? Because it fell.
It kind of makes your gums retract.
It's like something something, something, and marmalade, boom,
I just want to say he's character named.
I sort of alluded to it earlier on, as Tommy Grando, who's been
to see apparently, apparently, and he's coming back to marry
Hattie, it does seem to be the nursery.
Rhyme, Bobby shaftos gone to see.
Mmm, do you know there is that I heard of I've heard of Bobby
shafto. I couldn't, I couldn't.
Yeah, the rhyme. Well over the rhyme is something
like Bobby shaftos gone to see silver Buckles at his knee.
He'll come back and marry me, Bonny, Bobby shafto and then
there's loads of other things but Tommy, Tommy Grand.
Oh, Bobby shafto is a little similar, both gone to Sea and
the both going to come back and marry somebody.
Yes. And we want to say, we did, we
did some digging And allegedly, this refers to a member of
parliament, Robert shafto who is MP for Downton in Wiltshire 1782
1790. And Downton is very, very sort
of close to my heart. In that it's two miles away from
our friend Paul as parents house and our friend.
Paul is the person that got us into podcasting, yes, Show you
take all the show of the show live podcast.
So, Bobby shafto was the MP for the bottom Barracks.
So, the rotten borough of Downton, two miles away from
where our inspiration for podcasting comes from.
So indirectly, he was responsible this long-dead MP
indirectly getting into broadcasting in it.
Well, in a very roundabout, sort of way.
But yeah, it's, it's quite interesting.
And that there's there's another connection with the show a live
podcast that we're going to come to look at it in a while but I
did an awful lot of filming with with Paul two miles, north of
Downton. Basically in the 90s.
Yeah she's right. It's Downton Abbey.
The TV show. Is that set in Downton or is
that just not? No doubt about have, he's
somewhere somewhere for a lot. Is that a word isn't it?
Yeah, but I kept the faith. The Judy and fellows has maybe
been in that area. I'm just picked up on the day.
Yeah, at some point. Yeah, downturn is six miles
south of Salisbury, because because he's a bit of a sort of,
you know, it's probably the sort of place you'd go to give
hunting or something. He's a bit of a sort of Block B.
Part is neat. Yeah.
He's a bit Posh so he's probably gone hunting.
In the past and maybe he's gone. Italy.
No stayed in that area somewhere.
Yeah, there's I think there's a bit of a living as well going on
here. Oh, there definitely is where
he's drinking when he's drinking and doing the as I say that the
drinking actions and Eric says something like it.
I thought you were a Mason and then sellers actually used to be
a stonemason or something. Yes, very ad-lib.
Yeah. They do seem to wander off
script a few times. Yeah.
He's getting a bit sort of nostalgic, Tommy.
And he's talking about when he was a kid playing the church in
the organ. Used to pump the ogre.
Yeah and he says not many people know that which yeah yes.
Interestingly again getting back to the last future Vol 2 days
earlier. He says that then within the
last few Joey says not a lot of course.
Yeah and of course credited with coming up with that catchphrase
- okay, there is many times you can in a week.
Yeah, but he said that he says that he hears the plot, he says
that he vowed before. He went to see that he would he
would make his fortune and one day he would return to marry
Hattie which is plausible for supposed but had he's not
Overjoyed by this unexpected development and she says she's
already she says she's already married.
And in pan, esposa record. Appendix says that he's married.
He's married to her. Yeah.
If this is where it starts to turn into sort of fast
territory, little bit. Yeah, with a the complicated
plots. Yes, right.
It's not that it's not very heavily plotted this episode.
I don't suppose any episodes of Sykes are, but just if I got
this, right? So, obviously it enrages Tommy
because they're meant to be brother and sister but Eric says
that actually Hattie his actual sister Hattie isn't There.
Yes. Is that right?
And that because that. Yeah.
Yes. Right and that.
So so are happy is allegedly his wife and the his sister is a
way, that's right. Yeah, that's right in Australia
or somewhere. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. And Summers is getting very
aggressive and quite, I mean, he could he could do aggressive
sellers, you know, you, yeah. Well trouser dropping, it was
always as he could be, he could be quite intimidating in terms
of His well in real life as well.
He could be quite intimidating but at the end of this scene, I
can't remember what? What causes it but he does sell
as those that does. It can has caught up with his
fisted gooey going. Is that your thing?
I mean they are waving chairs at each other.
At one point, they have chairs and raise them above their
heads, that could have ended badly.
The next scene is the I'm not quite sure he's moved in.
And Hattie and Eric, well, sort of sharing a bed, aren't they?
But yes, they both already wretched.
They haven't slept for days. And instead of just doing what
anyone would do in front of the police Eric has this plan to
masquerade as his sister and I don't quite know.
I don't quite think. He's thought at all the way
through what's its argument, that he's more identical to
himself than anybody else. Yes, no, you looks as much like
me as me. Yeah, yeah.
Because do you believe them as brother and sister Lisa?
Um, I don't know. I'm not sure you should go into
it that much, really because. Yeah, I mean, it is possible,
it's really do. It's the, it's the, it's the,
it's the twins principal at wins as a film of twit called twins
with Danny DeVito and and yeah, sure, yeah.
That you have to suspend disbelief and believe that these
two are related. It's the same what ssible.
Well, the earlier crossword, clue that hat.
There's another crossword clue. Wasn't it?
It was Twins. Yeah, and Eric had written
tweets. That's right.
So there is that point? Yes, yeah.
But he's decided to, as a sage decided to dress up as his
sister. He next scene is a department
store, which should have been Grace Brothers.
He's so gross Brothers. Yeah, we know our Grace Brothers
daily but it's actually this next scene.
You know. For the Doctor Who fans in the
house. It's almost a mini Doctor Who
convention. Yeah I don't know if you realize
this as didn't. You've got Frank a cliff.
Who's the what is he? The manager, the manager, power
manager you've got Joan young as the customer and he got Cheryl
Hall as one of the assistant. Yeah, yeah.
All of whom either have or are soon going to be doctor who
guest stars? Yes.
So, John Young was in the massacre.
Yes, with Hartnell Cheryl Hall is in.
Carnival are monsters that year and Frank get lifted.
Mott's propeller doll in a couple of years later.
So, yeah, so star spotting for Doctor Who fans there, okay?
So you're right. Joe, was it Joan?
Who do you say? Joey Joan Joan.
Young was she. So is she the woman who looks
like a cross between a sharples and the Bride of Frankenstein?
Yeah, she's the customer. Yes, yes angry customer Herod
and he's he's a, he's a attach her and she goes and and Cheryl
whole is because I know her from she was in citizen Smith.
Citizen Smith. That's right.
Yeah. She's she ends up with the she's
in the outtakes as well. When yeah, she's supposed to
have a dress, hanging a dress hanging off her, but it falls
off in the 80s and Frank, Frank a cliff, I know him mainly from
a recognized him from the ipcress file.
Hmm, but he's playing. He's playing it slightly camp
this character. It's a Proto mr.
Humphries almost isn't a way. Yeah.
Yeah well mr. Humphries and mr.
Granger. Yeah.
Tiny bit. So yes.
Fusing of mr. Have reason mr.
Granger. Which doesn't bear thinking
about? Yeah.
But if you say that right and as I'm getting older and no time
doing this more and more, I'm looking at the age of actors,
you know, when they're in things and I look not Frank out of
heaps 45. Yeah.
Yeah, I know it's that. It's that 70s thing everybody
look. So, Sold.
Don't they? Yeah, close people where and how
they've got their hair and and the facts?
Yeah, naturally is my notes here.
I've just written in capital. It is chaos.
Yes. Yeah.
I've written them chaos worthy of Frank Spencer.
Yeah, well yeah, but Eric seems to be deliberately pushing
things over by. Yes.
And then he's trying to pose as that.
He's being pursued because they think he's a pervert or
something. I'm.
Yeah. And he poses as a mannequin
wearing this awful dress with weapons on it but we I thought
they were cherries at first but it turns out they're red apples.
Yes, because yeah. Basically, what is it?
He said, I want to buy something for my sister.
She's the same size as me. Yeah.
Well, why can't she come in and buy a?
So she's out buying me a A suit? Yeah.
Which is quite a nice. Yeah.
Nice image. But in the end he sort of runs
off with it as he and a wig as well.
Awake. Yeah.
For the mannequin. You but you've got you've got
the worries when he's posing as the mannequin.
You got. Of course, of course, of course
this would happen. Frank get lift the manager
campus Toast of course, is using a feather duster to, oh, yes.
And of course, it goes up, the dress and all around and the
audience is To this as if failure to laugh, would result
in a lynching or something, you know, absolutely crazy.
And then, and then we say, yeah, Eric, Eric legs at home in the
dress, with a, with a terrible wig on and Tommy, Grando, comes
out of the kitchen and it's immediately smitten.
Of course. Yeah, well, Eric was quite
pleased because he said he claims that a man.
Followed me all the way. Up the street.
And he's quite pleased about that.
So he clearly thinks he's quite attractive in this Gator.
Yeah, yeah. That's acceptable behavior.
And his 72, isn't it? And then then sellers, that was
groping. Eric Sykes, your lovely.
You are your sort of different? Yeah.
I think about your, not your note with your no Twiggy.
Yeah. When he grabs Eric one of Eric's
apples? Yes.
Which are on the chest. Shall we say?
Seems to like what he's getting older of.
Yeah, yeah. I would say I would say, Eric
science is more Twiggy than Twiggy.
So and then you get a lovely bit of fast, don't you?
Hmm, I'll be up and down the stairs, but yeah.
So can you describe that? Because I don't think I can go
on then you have ago, right? So you know your way around a
fast? Gosh Tommy Tommy.
Crandall says he obviously wants to marry hat is he thinks Eric
is so Eric says that he's have to get his you know, his
brothers her Has permission. So he goes up as Hattie comes
down as Eric because he's then put a dressing gown.
All over the over, the dress. I'm taking the way back in the
back off. Yeah.
And then you just get an increasing amount of going up
and stays as the various different characters.
So was it Peter Sellers says, I bet you 50 50 nicker, they they
don't come down together. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, until finally, Eric comes down with a dressing gown on,
but the we gonna sweat. Yeah.
So, It's called the gives the guy when he was laughing out
loud at. Yeah, and I know you said to me,
I didn't think I'd laugh at Sykes that much.
Now, this bit really got to, you know, it's, it's just, it's,
it's the first thing because we've seen a few fastest
onstage. Yeah, and it's a really
intensive process because there's one particular fast be
called Noises Off. Yeah, which the first half.
Yes. Yeah, the first half is this it
Rehearsal for, what is that behind?
This is the it's the front of stage the other half is behind
the scenes but it's, but you sort of have to remember what
was going on in there and you've got to have such perfect timing.
Precision is. Yeah, that's absolute Precision.
If you get the timing wrong, the joke doesn't work.
Yeah, I'm not sure this scene could be described as precise
quite but it's the same kind of thing that it's and you've still
Got to remember what you're supposed to be bearing at what
time, you know. Have you got the week on and got
the dressing out on the joke here, being here at Cox Alex.
Yeah. But yeah, but there's a lot of
him talking to himself. Yeah, at that point, is it?
So, I've got a bit of heat in here for fast, I think.
Yeah, I struggle with fast. I think if you see on stage and
you see it done really well, that's the thing, it's got to be
done. Well, you realize I don't.
There's no Room for maneuver their realize, how clever he is
and how good is? Yeah, it's by, the way Noises
Off. Was made into a film.
He was in that film. Michael Caine.
Okay, I'd work is a feel because you need the audience reaction
to what's going on. Don't you?
I haven't seen it. I just know that he's in that
film, so yeah, but yeah. So Eric then can eat.
So he's come down eventually forgetting to take the wig off.
And the shame is exposed and Tommy insisted, he gets out of
the dress and reveals that he's not been at sea at all, but he
did. He's been doing 10 years bird at
Her Majesty's pleasure, and he went in Parkhurst, in Parkhurst,
prison on the Isle of Wight. Yes, we could be thinking yes,
what his Escape Route would have been from Parkhurst.
He has a two options. He either goes up when I was
going to say not the motorway. Cuz there is no two-way or here
either way, but there is a dual carriageway.
Which the Islanders call the motorway heading up towards
cows, where he could get the foot ferry to save that person
which would take him a while. The other option is, he could
have gone into Newport and stolen a boat and then down a
really slow speed. Escape worthy of the slow speed
Escape sequences at, Chase sequences in things like dicks.
Doc Greene. Yeah, yeah.
There's a Dixon of dock green, which is got the slowest police.
Chasing you've never seen basically George Dixon.
Can't go above 25 miles an hour in cases hips fall off.
Yeah, he's been at Parkhurst. And we said about what was our
connection with the show live podcast?
There is a character in in Paul's soap opera that he did in
the 90s that we used to film. There's a character in there
called Wing Commander Park here. Yes.
So I don't know whether it was named after the prison or not
but but there you go. Wasn't that wasn't character?
Wasn't the you know, in Blackadder Goes Forth, wasn't
Bob. Bob Parker, what's the driver
Parkhurst, driver Parkhurst. Yeah, that's right.
Yes, yeah. And right.
So Tommy wants to wear the dress because he wants to disguise
himself to leave the house. I mean it's As plots go.
This one is, this one's what is it is basically he goes into the
house, has Tommy Grando and leaves as a woman, so the police
will never know. It's him.
Is there any way? Because I know I'll do that
because you can then you get the police car sound.
Okay? Why is there a?
But I want to talk about that because Derrick Gainer makes his
entrance She is chaste Eric kaler cookie?
Oh yeah where's me washboard? Is that true?
Because I didn't I didn't know that he would this is this is
again I have a bit of a blind spot when it comes to Derek
guiler. Hmm, I didn't know.
He was a famed world world famous washboard player.
Oh he'd be on everything when you were a kid playing because
he's uncle is an episode of Cracker Jack.
He's on playing the washboard. With Miramar, girl.
He's singing giggling gurgling gasps.
Yeah it's basically the Laughing policeman but traffic born.
Yeah. Oh yeah, you was, he was all
over the place in the 70s and the early 80s with these
washboard. Yeah, because he's got
connections with. It's a square world.
Yeah, we've been here. Yes, he does.
He was one of the regulars. Yeah.
First please sir, of course,
what was interesting there Is that he is in the infamous 1974
crackerjack Christmas special Aladdin which is painful
watching in places but he's a Chinese policemen in there and
at one point he brings on most of the cast of z-cars.
Yeah. Really embarrassed.
Who looked embarrassed including mr.
Rumbold own dick. Nicholas Smith.
Who was a PC instead cars. Briefly, yes. 10 minutes, break
50 whole, wait for it, wait for it, softly softly.
Well, is that no-good, brother? Why what's he doing?
He's been on the wish. He wouldn't do anything like
that. But there's another said, Cars
Connection with the police in Sykes.
Yeah. And that we were surprised to
find that Robert Keegan turns up, Robert Keegan burglary is in
the episode burglary as a sergeant and he was a sergeant
in z-cars in the 60s. Okay?
So I when people turn up as policemen in the same rank I
always like to think they're the same character.
Yeah, I appeared years ago with my friends.
Ed's tilt and carry on their podcast.
Jaffa Cakes were produced which was, is kind of a little bit of
a Hiatus of the moment, but it's a sort of British pop culture of
a certain era podcast and we did a podcast all about the actor,
David Lodge again. Okay.
But it was about all the all the sorry We examined three or four
films in which he appeared as a policeman of.
Yeah? Right.
Because David Lodge has played a policeman in accounted at 17 or
18 different films over the years.
Good Lord. Yes, he was always turning up as
a copper as was Derek guiler because he's a, he's a course in
A Hard Day's Night as the desk sergeant, when we can go gets it
Arrested, he was always playing to me.
He seems to always play these sort of mid-ranking authority
figures like policemen, that wardens.
Yeah, because he's a caretaker Yeah, and police say he was a
Desert Rat. You know.
Yes. And of course he's got his
comedy. He's there is novelty record as
me. Oh, can't kill an old Desert
Rat. Did you actually listen to that
in the end Lisa? Now you refused.
But yeah, one of many people with novelty records in the 70s.
I was I was very impressed that the spread of trivia, yeah, his
voice certainly was enough, it still is but was used as the
Radio announcer in the The Mousetrap play.
Yes. Yeah.
Making him like, the longest running and most appearances
record or something. Yeah, of an actor in the
western. Yeah, we've never seen The
Mousetrap know. It's amazing to me how the plot
of the mouse trap. Hasn't been spoiled.
No, I said, I suppose if you look hard enough, you can find
out who ya? I've never never looked no, no.
I have have you. Yeah.
How are you? No, dude.
All right. Okay.
We probably never going to see it so it's fine, but yeah,
because it's based on a real life case.
Isn't it there? Was it the play?
Yes. Okay, yeah.
So, okay better sites. So yeah, Corky the PC as well.
Sergeant, what is he is? He called sturgeon Corky has
that Corky is nicknamed. I don't quite know.
I think cookies is nickname, isn't it Turnbull?
Isn't it? Yeah, yeah Temple.
Yeah, okay, so he walks in and then sellers comes out.
In the weekend and the dress and does a kind of an approximation
of a female voice going, hello sailor, which sellers could have
done, him, could have done very accurately, but obviously, he's
playing a character who can't do impersonations for me.
I might be a bit late, but then we find out that the shop
manager has followed him home and accuses.
Tommy of stealing the dress and two Burly.
Coppers come in and dragged him from the house.
What? When he's a bit insulted?
It being accused of stealing a dress, isn't it?
The way he's done. He's done a score is, and this
is what you said. I don't know where that, I don't
know if they were out looking for Tommy or they just dragged
him off for stealing the dress, because I'm the last person to
bang on. The Usual Suspects about police
resources being diverted away from proper crimes if you know
what I mean. Yeah.
To attend more trivial offenses but the the sheer amount of
Manpower assigned. It's a large presence for a
dress and a wig is this. So you do just wonder whether
they were out looking for Tommy and they just happened to be
around but Corky's oblivious to it because he thinks he'll get
seven days for this. Yeah.
Just do just like meet the nickname Cold Case for.
So, I haven't Coke. No, I did.
I did wonder about Sergeant Cory.
Yeah. And Corky, I'm guessing Corky
actually appears before Sergeant cook start.
All right. So, it Cooks Corky might appear
before that, I don't know. Yeah, not sure.
And that I think that's a coincidence but I could be wrong
of the handful of episodes of Sergeant cork.
I've seen the very good and I do like the one with Ron.
Lacey. As vulnerable as he is, he is he
on. What is he on a wall or
something? We're gonna, yeah, I think he's
been. Yeah, it's been fighting in
Afghanistan somewhere. Some of that, that that is what
Graham at forget. We had to watch three episodes
of mind your language after that.
Just to clear the palace. Yeah, yeah.
There's some heavy hitting episodes of soda thought they
really are. Yeah, they really are good.
Ted Elise does not pull his pack.
Pull his punches, that's the thing.
Ted Willis, right? Sticks are Doctrine.
And people think, Dixon of dock, green is light and fluffy but
then he also writes Sergeant cool.
Yeah, it's not good, but great is not light and fluffy.
Not some of the later Max. No, that's true.
Maybe in the 50s but by the time you get to the 70s.
Yeah. It's not as hard hitting a
Sweeney but it has its moments. That's true.
So yeah, just as he's being dragged off sellers, Cause the
manager of proof which is always nice.
Oh yeah, clown and the episode ends with Hattie tossing, Eric
over the sofa. I'll be free.
Yeah, Hattie throat. I put Judo on Sykes.
Yeah. And and titles, as well as that
the sting in the tail is that for some reason, Peter Sellers
appears to end up in Holloway. Yes, with the dress still aren't
actually pretty dress. Yes.
Yeah. And he's cuddling up to two
ladies. Yes.
Yes, right. Yeah.
Why they let him keep the dress,
I don't know. But, let's, let's start question
that and know. So overall, what did you think
of this episode? Well, I've seen a few times,
I've realized that, and I think it stands up quite well and you
were I think you went in with low expectations.
Yeah, thank you, but you actually enjoyed it more than
you thought. Did ya it's an odd series Psych
so I think that's fair to say and it was never in the top tier
for me. It's never up there with the
greats but it's still pretty decent stuff.
You know, it made us laugh and having watched it twice in in a
week or so. Yeah, we were still happy to
watch it again and yeah, but that's the thing we don't know
quite Enough about the series doing now but you piqued, my
interest with your reference to the final episode.
How? Yes?
How that have? You actually seen it?
Yes. So how did it play out?
It was all a sitcom, all along or something.
Is that? Is that?
Is that the plot? Yes, I think so.
The November 1979 last episode of Sykes was called the BBC
honors with the aforementioned Hugh burden from.
Yes, I saw the list. I've not seen the episode so I
can tell you looking there. Well, there's nothing you tell
me. Okay?
So he's, he is Hugh burden, plays the head of light
entertainment at the BBC and Eric and Hattie is summoned to
BBC because he wants to give them a gold clock for their
services to light entertainment. So yeah, it is, it is as if they
are acknowledging that it's been a sitcom all the time and you've
got people like Henry McGee Les Dawson's in it but it's
essentially a A clip show. Yeah, and right at the end we
get a short clip of sellers, the sellers episode and Henry, Henry
McGee after that. Clip says, yeah, that was Peter
Sellers, so that's great. What was the name of the
champion that the Peter Sellers up?
Wasn't even waggoner's walk and fortunately, that episode 2 not
available on I'm brick box. Later stuff isn't if we will
have it on the TV. It's just do it.
There, we have it in the house. It's in the house.
It is in time somewhere over there somewhere.
There's just there's a huge, we need shelving.
And then we could put all the DVDs out, we would be able to
find stuff instantly. What proportion of your house,
or the inside of your house is DVD about 50% of 50%.
DVDs over there and it goes back, several layers.
And it's about ten layers deep. Well, there's room for two
sofas. Oh yeah and we're sitting on the
sofa so yeah just be thankful we don't live in the era of VHS
anymore because those things do is I've got rid of over the
years. I hate to think.
Yeah, there's a lot of DVDs that they did.
And blue. I like to think that if a bob
landed on the BBC archives you could we have most of the
important stuff here as a backup.
Well, this is why it's not true because you still can't buy
Vision honors. Ed cars, nationally candle Sykes
and we won't rest till you can. This is what this is the
argument that I always make for physical physical media because
not everything is or will stream be streaming?
Well, absolutely. And And the fights we sometimes
have with streaming services. Yeah just I mean Sykes played
okay on on Brit box but even so the picture quality is nowhere
near what the DVD is and we do want to read the end credits and
we don't want to skip the intro especially with Sykes.
Yeah, because we want so much into that intro.
Do we want to see those three? Valves going down, sister.
Yes, brilliant well, Listen both, thank you.
Thank you so much for coming on again, to talk about this, this
episode pleasure. Thank you.
So we touched on round the archives.
What have you got? Coming up for episode 66?
I think we're pretty much in the dark though.
We have got some in conversation episodes plant, which are just
an hour's matter with people. Yes.
And hopefully, we might get some new voices involved.
So if you're, if you're in, Interested in the matter about
Telly Taylor, we'd like to invite you on board as well.
Yeah, well we're work something out.
I do listen to around the archives but there doesn't seem
to be any parameters other than it's got to be really more than
20 years old. I guess has but even
occasionally we've done we did when we did a couple of years
ago, we had a whole So of season, I guess on on Jack, the
Ripper? Yeah, dramas we did.
Whitechapel from 2008 was incredibly do for us.
That was 21st century. My God, we do acknowledge the
21st century. There were don't worry about
that but that was, you know. Yeah, I'd love one day to come
on and talk about something. Yeah, I would want it to be
completely unrelated to to this. Absolutely.
Yes. Yes.
Yeah. Do something.
You can't do elsewhere. So I would love to talk about
man about the house. Oh, that would be interesting if
we got that. Yeah.
Did you find it?
I saw a while back. I loose wondering about it.
Yeah. Okay.
And then we can put them on shelves and then we can find
stare. Just so that's a good idea.
Normally what happens is I go to look for something and I get
halfway through and I've got piles of DVDs around me and I
still can't find it. Quite I keep up.
And then I've gotta put all the DVDs back and funnily enough.
I, it seems like I've got more DVDs and I still regret they
breathe. Okay, what did that guy, bro?
You have my brother house? Yes.
Well, that didn't then that's a date.
Oh, what a good idea. Yes, looking forward to it.
Yes, you do. Enjoy the rest of your weekend
and tata for now. Yes, you do.
Enjoy the rest of your weekend and tata for now.