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Take. 
One John Cleese, where do you 

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think you're going? 
The Guinness Book of Records. 

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Add 1 punctilious headmaster. 
I am going to the University of 

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Norwich in the fair county of 
Norfolk, right Norwich on time. 

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On the left. 
Right, blend thoroughly. 

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This is the train to Norwich. 
Plymouth, Plymouth that was 

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Norwich on the left. 
And you've won. 

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Sure. 
Recipe for disaster? 

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Taxi. 
I'll just pull the wing away 

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from the wheel. 
They're vandalizing those poems 

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again. 
He's showing off his muscles and

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she's egging him up. 
Let's do that, 

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our chairman. 
Mr. Stimson. 

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Is here clockwise, is being in 
the right place at the right 

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time the. 
This is a historic episode of 

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Goonpod. 
After nearly 150 episodes, for 

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the first time ever we are 
discussing a film which doesn't 

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have a goon connection. 
Although John Cleese did win the

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Evening Standard Peter Sellers 
Award for Comedy for this film, 

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and he was of course the 
announcer in the 1968 Thames TV 

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Goon Show special. 
Tails of Men's Shirts, of 

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course. 
But I just thought we'd shake it

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up and try something a little 
bit different and talk about a 

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British comedy film which I am 
extremely fond of and have 

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probably seen it God knows a 
dozen times, maybe more over the

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years. 
And I wanted to invite back a 

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friend of the show, returning 
guest and someone who I know 

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will have a lot to say about 
this film. 

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And I think it's possibly only 
the second time he's seen it for

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this recording. 
Chris Diamond. 

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Hi, Chris. 
Hello. 

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How are you doing? 
Nice to be back. 

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Yeah, not too bad. 
It's good to be back with all 

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you wonderful people. 
Good, good. 

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Because last time you were on, I
think it was talking, we were 

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talking to Nick Emery about his 
his dad. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
That was fantastic. 

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Yeah, That was so good. 
Yeah. 

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So, so Chris we have, I 
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talking about. 
I don't think I have 1986 

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clockwise. 
Clockwise. 

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Yeah. 
You saw. 

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As you see, I had the, I saw the
pictures and I enjoyed it. 

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I remember enjoying it very much
and I didn't see it again until 

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you suggested we talk about it. 
So it was interesting to see it 

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after. 
What's that, 37 years? 

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This surprises me though. 
Why? 

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Why? 
Yeah. 

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Why did you leave it so long, 
basically? 

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Well, it's not what I mean, it 
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to leave it to like I'm fifty or
something. 

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I just, it's just something that
never cropped up. 

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But it's a funny thing. 
It's not one of those films that

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is ever included in sort of 
British films of the 80s, You 

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know, it's not handmade film. 
So it doesn't get included in 

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all of that sort of Canon and 
maybe join maybe, I don't know. 

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John Cleese is just sort of sort
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mainstream. 
No, probably quite rightly that 

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it just that seems to slit my 
show. 

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It's not something I don't 
remember ever be good telly very

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much. 
I'm sure it was and if I did 

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watch it when it was on telly, I
don't remember watching it. 

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I certainly it's not amongst my 
archive of films that I taped 

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off the telly in the cupboard 
which includes some really 

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bizarre things that are doing a 
wire tape but there's not one of

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them. 
So yeah, it's just it's just not

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one of those just not one of 
those films. 

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You know, like I don't know 
where a private function or pain

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bandit. 
So, you know, with Neil and I or

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something, you know those sort 
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As I see British comedy films of
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budget musicals made out of 
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that clockwise musical. 
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I mean it was the IT was the 
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which I think John Cleese said 
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was he considered it there 
perfect. 

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And it is very well put together
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Michael Frayn is a wonderful 
writer playwright. 

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I think it didn't do great in 
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decided then that he wanted to 
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would make money in in the 
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in Fish Called Wonder, which I 
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No, I know. 
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didn't it go to a screen writing
classes. 

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So I'm sure in like film 89 or 
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you know, a voice over of Tom 
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in a classroom full of people 
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say over screenplay and so 
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structure. 
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somebody who has any problems 
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think he did or said that's what
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He had the problem with. 
And it's interesting the script,

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this particular script, which is
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with this problem as I watched 
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Problems. 
The direction. 

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Yeah, Yeah. 
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we go through it but at the end 
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we'll get to all of this then 
but at the end of it is is very 

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Michael free you can you can see
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lot of the earlier parts of it 
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well in America because it would
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with the way the school was run 
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various different things. 
It's just a funny it's a bit of 

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an oddity but there was that 
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get made here we like Welt now. 
Yeah you know. 

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Yeah, there's all those sort of 
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of plays that I suppose was 
almost the equivalent of the 

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adaptations of a sitcoms. 
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That were used to get made 
before, but that brings me to my

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sort of overarching point and 
this is what I watch that the 

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word I realized it's a he's just
playing basil faulty. 

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He's still doing faulty. 
That's why I think it's so 

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interesting about his 
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Whereas by the time he does a 
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kind of he's still doing this 
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But this is basil. 
It's just basil. 

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The character in Wonder what's 
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Archie Leach, I think. 
Archie Leach, Yeah, Gary Gary 

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with his real name. 
Yeah, that's right. 

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He's a bit, he's a bit wet. 
He's not, Yeah, he's he's got, 

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he's a bit spineless, really. 
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supposing that the first one 
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his character, sort of draws a 
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adventurous, and he has that 
famous scene, but he's dancing 

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about stripping himself off, 
getting speaking in Russian or 

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something. 
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It's not a film. 
That I watched for the first 

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time ever a couple of weeks ago.
I watched Fierce Creatures. 

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You've seen that well. 
You. 

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Oh yes, Pierce Creatures. 
Stephen Grace being Roddy 

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Corbett. 
But that's a bad film. 

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That's a properly bad film. 
Well, it yes, it is. 

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But I was. 
I was preparing myself for a 

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worse film than I feel it was, 
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It's not a great, not a great 
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But it not the car crash that 
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grown up over the years that 
it's absolutely abysmal. 

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Oh no, it's not that bad. 
It's just not good. 

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It's not unwatchable, you know? 
It's not like splitting ears. 

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Oh God, no. 
Like you say about some Cleese 

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inch Clockwise plays Brian 
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And yeah, I was thinking, yeah, 
absolutely. 

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You're thinking that this is 
just faulty. 

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With one exception. 
I feel the relationship because 

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Stimson is the headmaster of a 
comprehensive. 

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Yes. 
Somewhere in London I think and.

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No, I think it's support. 
Well, is it supposed to be in 

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London where? 
I don't know. 

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It's got this, it's got that, 
it's got that sort of, you know,

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like old fashioned, but it's 
full of accents you don't hear 

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anymore. 
Kids that don't talk like they 

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just talk like that English, 
they could be anywhere apart 

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from like Yorkshire. 
They could be like anywhere from

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the South of England walk to the
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anywhere. 
It could be the East Midlands 

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somewhere, yeah. 
It's a BB. 

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It's 160 or 180 miles or 
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that. 
Yeah, so. 

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So Stimson is the headmaster 
now. 

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If it was, if he was just 
playing it as faulty, he would 

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have nothing but contempt for 
his charges, for the for the 

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pupils. 
Whereas Stimson does seem to be,

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even though he's quite anal 
about time keeping and whatnot 

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and he you can tell that he's 
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He also seems to have a certain 
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certain affinity. 
Yeah because what he's talking 

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about you know he he right at 
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he's talking about the fact that
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he's making history by going to 
this headmaster's conference and

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he will take up the chair and 
this is the first time that the 

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headmaster of comprehensive. 
Yes, achieve this in the history

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of the world. 
But he's very inclusive because 

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he's saying we achieved this. 
But you sure? 

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You see, I think that's part. 
I think let's say a decorative 

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of the, or perhaps what might 
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film. 
I think there's you can sense a 

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real tension between Michael 
Friends script and John Cleese's

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performance, where he's trying 
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It's always like Freda's trying 
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Yeah. 
Whereas Cleese just advanced 

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stage in his career. 
Can't just can't help it because

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he's just not moved past it and 
perhaps that's the all the way 

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he knows how to play it. 
I don't know. 

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Well, I mean that's how that's 
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Me. 
There's one very specific bit in

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this film which is just pure 
faulty. 

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Oh yeah, which is him kicking 
the car? 

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Kicking the car which which is 
almost exactly the same car. 

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Yes. 
Was that because the car in 

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Fawlty Towers was, wasn't 
Austin, was it? 

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And I think that. 
Yeah, I think it's the same I. 

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Don't know how much about cars, 
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the he's got the branch and he's
just whacking the car and then 

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in this he kicks it and falls 
into the mud. 

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Yeah. 
I mean that's a that's a 

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straightforward you could almost
you could always hear them and 

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you know script conferences 
saying if we've got John Cleese 

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or jointly said if you've got me
this is what I do this is what I

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should be doing where and I 
think your friend is a the 

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script and free script is trying
because there has to be a reason

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this this brings me, I should 
say to my notes yes partly 

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written notes are actually 
written actually written on 

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paper with a pen well done is a 
kind which means I can't read 

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them. 
This afternoon as well, because 

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you you left it till this 
afternoon to no. 

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No, I watched that. 
I watched it when you suggested 

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this would be, well, going to 
watch that again this afternoon.

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Very good. 
So I tell you the first thing 

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that strikes you in this film, 
which is the terrible music. 

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The music is terrible, It's 
desperately mediocre soundtrack 

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and I'd fight. 
I even said to create realms of 

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the commentaries theme he had 
said to me before I watched that

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you'll recognize them by the 
music as. 

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And I even said always it's 
going to be like, you know, 

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saxophones. 
The doting hardness. 

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Yeah. 
And it's literally exactly what 

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happens with a rushing away. 
At one point the saxophone is 

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going, so the music doesn't 
help, but yeah. 

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But in 1986, watching it, that 
wouldn't have been dated, That 

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would have been highly 
contemporary. 

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You'd have been fine with that. 
But the problem is that it's it 

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goes to another part of the the 
another little issue with the 

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film, which is no way, this is 
what I say about the direction 

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and no way is this film 
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It's ATV movie. 
It's filmed as ATV movie by ATV 

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director. 
Christopher Monahan was ATV 

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director. 
Yeah, tell me about him, because

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I meant to do some more research
on him. 

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What's his background? 
I mean, it's it's like, well, 

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it's and literally television. 
I mean he's done the odd 

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literally. 
I mean when I see TV movie I 

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mean that is the only that's as 
close as he got to films as far 

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as I could see. 
But apart from that is episodic 

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television and which is fine I'm
not the crying. 

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I'm not criticizing the you but 
but it's a very different thing 

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you know director of the film 
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this would have been like a 
perfectly fine you know extreme 

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one. 
You know, like I don't know like

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Pat, Pat and Margaret or 
something, but it's not, it's 

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not a film, just that that 
suggests that you need to see at

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the back chills and the music's 
is adequate to that, whereas a 

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nice soundtrack would have would
have lifted it a bit more. 

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But that's the way I'm sure 
there were various budgetary 

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reasons and so forth. 
So yeah, a little few little 

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bits and pieces that are very 
much data of its time. 

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For example, the premise of a 
comprehensive doing well as an 

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immediately basis for a plot is 
is interested because it's, you 

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know part of the part of the 
accepted truisms of the time 

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that comprehensives were 
terrible. 

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And you know, therefore how 
could you know they're doing 

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well and being run well and 
everybody being fine and being 

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recognized was you're already 
you're you're drawing on the 

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audience's preconceptions 
because that's what everybody 

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thought. 
Everybody did think that. 

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Yeah. 
But this is what what you get 

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what This is where we get to 
your point about stepson as a 

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successful head teacher because 
it kind of suggests that he's 

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just because he's organized and 
shouts at people and has you 

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know like a little They had this
little intercom, the tanoi thing

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that he shouts that people in 
the in the in the playground to 

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tell them they're supposed to be
a certain class or whatever. 

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And he has his mantra of 920, 
which is the time for executions

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where you go to the headmaster's
study and so forth. 

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But I mean, is that really 
enough to suggest a school 

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that's become so successful? 
It doesn't really convey very 

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much of of how well runners, No,
but we have to, or why or why 

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he's exceptional. 
We have to assume that he he's 

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very good at, he's very good at 
his job, otherwise why would he 

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have been awarded this? 
Well, yeah, but that's the point

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is that I think the point is 
they tell you that he's very 

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good at his job. 
They don't really spend very 

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long demonstrating it. 
But you know obviously you don't

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have a lot of time and one of 
the great benefits of it, it's 

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like, you know, I know it in a 
half long, which I is always an 

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immediate borders of my eyes 
nowadays. 

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But yeah, the the the one of the
other things that notice that 

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the the the way it's portrayed, 
you know, the way that the 

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school is portrayed or just 
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now, you know, you might as well
be it might as well be in like 

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you know Tom Brown school days. 
It's just them. 

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Even though it's what, 37 years 
ago, it's a it's a light age 

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away from from nowadays, you 
know, the the the way people, 

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the way the kids behave, the way
they talk, the way they dress, 

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you know, it's just another 
world. 

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And I think that's one of the 
things that I think quite 

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dealing about. 
Well, you notice the assembly at

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the beginning. 
The boys and girls are 

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completely separated. 
Yes, they've given still get the

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boys and girls sort of 
entrances. 

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Yeah. 
And things. 

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But you know it's just the idea 
of of like the headmaster shouts

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920. 
So you turn up at 9:20. 

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Nobody's talking back. 
Nobody's caused any trouble. 

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Nobody's everybody's wearing 
their uniform, albeit, you know 

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shut out and hear a bit ruffled 
and tired, tiny knots and all 

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that sort of thing. 
And of course this is it's. 

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The other thing that occurred to
me watching it, sorry Chris, but

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so he's got this, he's almost in
like this, this, this 

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comprehensive school equivalent 
of air traffic control tower 

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where he's where he's surveying 
the whole of the school. 

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Yeah, the whole of his domain. 
And like you say, with his, with

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his tanoi or. 
Intercom. 

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And the kids presumably know 
that. 

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You know that they will have 
experiences every single day. 

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And yet it doesn't stop kids 
beating up a land or really good

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grumble magazine or whatever 
You'd expect it to be Completely

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deserted wouldn't. 
You. 

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Yeah, just around the corner. 
But you know a bit further is 

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you know it's that's the way it 
was and then they have the 

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assembly because so the premise 
data set up that he's obsessive 

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about punctuality. 
Yeah. 

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So at 9:00 exactly everybody's 
standing in the assembly and and

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he comes and he gives them as, 
as you say, his little speech, 

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which is, which is I think is 
where friends script overtakes 

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the performance because he has 
to say we've done this, you 

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know, we've made this happen. 
And your mind, you're thinking, 

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well is this him? 
Just saying, is that an excuse 

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for his own ego? 
You know, Is he just, is he 

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really talking about yourself? 
But you feel that he does 

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actually mean it right now? 
I've got some sad news for you 

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all. 
I'm going to be away today. 

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I knew you'd be heartbroken 
right now. 

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Where am I going? 
I am going to the University of 

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Norwich in the fair county of 
Norfolk. 

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And why am I going there? 
I am going there because that's 

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where this year's annual meeting
of the Headmaster's Conference 

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is being held. 
And you can all feel rather 

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proud of yourselves because they
don't let just any old head 

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masters into their head Masters 
Conference. 

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Far from it. 
The Head Masters Conference is 

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the organization to which all 
the great independent schools of

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this country belong. 
Places like Eaton and Harrow, 

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Winchester and Westminster. 
The fee paying schools, the posh

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schools that we all look down 
our noses and that we'd all send

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our children to if only we'd got
the money. 

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They don't usually let. 
In head Masters of Common, Old 

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Garden Comprehensive schools or 
schools like this one. 

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So why, you ask, why did they 
let me in? 

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Well, I'll tell you why they let
me in. 

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Because you and I, all of us 
together, have made Thomas 

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Tompion one of the best schools 
in the country. 

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Right then. 
But today, 9:20 Linda, he knows 

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that. 
And you know, he knows the names

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of all the pupils because he's 
able to take them out. 

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And then and you know that sort 
of. 

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Thing Well, he's quite he's 
quite self deprecating as well, 

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which unlike Faulty, he's not. 
He's not a terrible person. 

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In fact he doesn't come across, 
I don't think in the whole film 

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really as a terrible he's not a 
martinet. 

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He's not a he's like I wrote my 
notes, he's a he's a slightly 

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less Tory version of Basil. 
Faulty in many ways I feel. 

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Yes, yeah, yeah. 
He's he's sort of he's sort of 

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less psychologically damaged 
than faulty. 

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Because faulty is a desperate 
man who's complete feels 

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completely trapped. 
You know, with his awful wife. 

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His idiot staff is terrible 
customers in any in a situation 

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he hates and and he's just a 
tormented man. 

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Stimson is obviously very happy.
He is a successful skill. 

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He's good at his job everybody's
doing the but you know but you 

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know he's not challenged in any 
way. 

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I know he's being recognized in 
a really you know grand way so 

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he's perfectly happy. 
But his problem is punctuality 

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and of course as it develops you
find out from Penelope Wellness 

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character as we'll get to that. 
But it used he used to be 

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desperately bad being punctual. 
Hence his OCD about punctuality.

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No, the plot. 
The plot then basically begins 

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when a very junior look very 
nice and Allison Stedman, who's 

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his, who plays his wife, comes 
to give him a left to the 

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station to go to the conference,
which is in the far-flung 

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outpost of Norwich. 
Which I suppose for the audience

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is supposed may be supposed to 
feel like it's quite no. 

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Exotic the. 
Exotic. 

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Exotic. 
Sort of, yeah. 

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Like very, very like on the on 
the far reaches of the Kingdom, 

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you know, No idea. 
Basically not an easy place to 

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get to from wherever they are, 
But then things progress and 

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then that's when they start to 
really enjoy it because there 

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are so many great things for 
somebody like me to enjoy. 

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Did you notice? 
Did you notice her when she 

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picks him or she arrives to take
him to the station? 

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Yeah. 
And it was, it was on upon me 

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watching this again for the 
purpose of this. 

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It's the first time I picked up 
on it. 

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It's just in terms of a dated 
thing. 

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She gets into the car, which I 
think is a Ford Cortina. 

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It's just a lovely Cortina, 
yeah. 

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And she reaches over and unlocks
the passenger side door so he 

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can get in. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, there's no such thing as 
central locking in those days. 

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No, no, You'd had to pay a lot 
more for that. 

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I don't think you'd have caught 
it. 

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Not Cortina. 
You might want a Granada. 

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We had a Cortina with a black 
Cortina. 

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Oh, yeah. 
It was close for, you know, 

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actually one night. 
And we had a driveway now. 

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Yeah. 
One morning when we were getting

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taken to school with the 
Cortina, the police arrived and 

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they started to question that 
because the car had been taken 

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away during the night and used 
in a robbery and then brought 

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back and parked. 
Wow. 

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Very considerate, very 
considerate. 

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Robbers. 
It's. 

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One of those things. 
Quite clever, really. 

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Anyway, no nice week, Cortina, 
and she drives away. 

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OK, sorry again. 
This is one of those films which

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would not exist if mobile phones
existed then. 

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Yes. 
No, that's what I was going to 

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get to because. 
So they go to the station, she 

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drops them off after. 
You get a sense that the 

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marriage is not terribly happy. 
She's a bit annoyed. 

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She gets, you know, she's going 
to sort of take for granted, but

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that's never really developed 
that much. 

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But it's it's necessary for 
something. 

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So she takes at the station and 
then there's a back cross talk 

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with Or was his name the actor 
John? 

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Garden. 
Barton And it's that sort of and

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again this is very Michael Free 
that sort of left platforms, the

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left, right, left on the left, 
right, right, right and it goes 

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the wrong one. 
No. 

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As you see nowadays, the train 
would leave and he would just 

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phone somebody, you know, pick 
me up at the station or 

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whatever, you know, come and get
me and that would be it. 

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So it must be very difficult now
to write fastest based on 

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misunderstandings with when 
everybody's got mobile. 

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But this is probably just as 
well Rick, And he's dead, so 

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they. 
Do you think that so obviously 

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Stimpson gets on the wrong 
train? 

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Yes, was the train to Plymouth? 
Yeah. 

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And because as he is, as he is 
informed by the man who plays 

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the bed salesman and the answer 
to bedebs would step to. 

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I didn't pick up on that. 
OK, so Stimson gets on the wrong

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train. 
And for someone who's obviously 

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we're we're we're led to believe
is so exact and everything he 

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does, yeah, it seems slightly 
sloppy, but maybe that's why. 

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Maybe it's it's in his past. 
Because we know that he was 

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always late when he was a 
younger man. 

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Well, we find that out from 
Penelope Walton's character in a

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bit, Yeah. 
So that's a bit of a sort of a 

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revelation. 
And you're meant to think, I 

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think there's supposed to be. 
I think that's the sort of key 

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to the character is that he's so
obsessive now about his time 

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keeping because he used to be so
terrible at it. 

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And perhaps when you when you 
find that out you you come to 

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realise that his real character 
is desperately on Pulchul and 

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disorganize and the rest of it 
is just a veneer. 

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Now this is again when I get to 
see about the contention between

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free and faulty. 
Because Michael with a maybe a 

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different actor that wasn't 
trying to impose quite 

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particular performance on it, 
maybe more of that would have 

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00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,440
come out but be a different 
director would have been able to

452
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,240
bring more of it out. 
So it doesn't really come it 

453
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:28,880
doesn't really come to a boil 
that that that that sense of of 

454
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,040
the duality of them. 
But it's yeah. 

455
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,280
Nice to stay out. 
Yeah. 

456
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:38,240
But of course then he leaves a 
speech, and there's a nice bit 

457
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,800
with Tracy's good speech speech.
And John Bonded System wants me 

458
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:43,720
to make a speech. 
How the? 

459
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,600
Custom does I am to. 
Public but the yeah, but the you

460
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,360
know, but it's like I say, it's 
dropping this stuff out of the 

461
00:27:52,360 --> 00:27:53,640
station. 
Looks amazing. 

462
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,000
The Mother Lord comes later when
they go to a shell garage which 

463
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,440
is fantastic. 
But anyway, even in fact of 

464
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,400
course the wafers then gone. 
Alice has said when Mrs. Simpson

465
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,600
is going to, it's mentioned you 
know she's going to go and take 

466
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,600
some old ladies around for a run
sort of obviously something that

467
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,320
she does. 
She wanted to come to the 

468
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,960
conference, but there's no waves
allowed can. 

469
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,440
I just say when I think of this.
That was a different thing. 

470
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,960
Yeah, when I think of this film.
Yep. 

471
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:33,200
Two things into my head. 
One is the the line. 

472
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:38,240
This is a historic yeah as as 
referenced in my little 

473
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,960
introduction. 
The other is Sherry glasses. 

474
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,840
Oh yes, the pics are just 
constantly. 

475
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,840
Actually, I was going to come to
the point that that what I think

476
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,720
is, is one of the strengths of 
the film is it's at the fag end 

477
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:03,640
of that period of films made 
Here we are. 

478
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,960
Almost everybody is a is a 
worthy actor, you know, 

479
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,640
Everybody is great. 
Everybody's a proper actor. 

480
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:16,320
Every tiny part and one of the 
best parts, one of the best 

481
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,240
people. 
The three people in it are the 

482
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:24,200
three old ladies, especially 
Jordan Hickson and Anna Ray who 

483
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:29,440
who are fantastic, but Jordan 
Hickson who is just a fantastic 

484
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,720
performance of that. 
You know, that sort of a she's 

485
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,840
obviously supposed to have some 
kind of dementia, which you 

486
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,400
wouldn't have been referenced at
the time was just Batty old 

487
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,200
lady. 
No, it would be sort of a tragic

488
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,720
decline into, you know, the into
the twilight dusk of our years. 

489
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,840
Then it's just a Batty old woman
with a incredible sort of purple

490
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,560
fright here. 
And she's, she just stands and 

491
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,360
keeps her going on. 
But, I mean, she went to 

492
00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,720
Majorca. 
Why would you need cherry 

493
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:00,720
glasses and people through the 
door Now? 

494
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:07,480
The liqueur glasses came to me 
from my mother. 

495
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,680
I understand the genies always 
had her aisle then, so she said.

496
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,080
Ellie, it's no use letting Lou 
have the shady glasses. 

497
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,000
She won't appreciate them. 
She won't Polish them. 

498
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,160
She know what she's like. 
So I said, well, all right. 

499
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,960
I've no desire to burden people 
with possessions. 

500
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,600
They don't want her, I said 
that's not my intention and 

501
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,680
never has been. 
So naturally, she thought, if 

502
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,200
the shady glasses aren't going 
to Lou, they be going to pair. 

503
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,120
I thought to myself, Wait a 
moment, I'll keep moving. 

504
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,600
Missus trellis. 
Nearly there. 

505
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,040
We've got a moment, Gilly. 
I thought. 

506
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,520
Are we going to the hospital? 
We're at the hospital, Mrs. 

507
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,040
Weil. 
We're just going to have a 

508
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,880
little look at the country. 
How lovely. 

509
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,800
Oh, isn't that lovely? 
Not so far, Gilly. 

510
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,440
I thought if Pen gets, she'll 
give them to Deb's. 

511
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,840
We all know what she'll do. 
Aren't we lucky? 

512
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,880
And actually, I wasn't sure of 
the time of this, but so 

513
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:16,360
Clockwise is 1986 and Hexon's 
first Marple is 87, I think, or 

514
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:22,760
86 or 87 K So this would have 
been, you know, just at the very

515
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,760
end of four days as a job in 
character, actually. 

516
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,960
And of course, she was best 
known, I suppose. 

517
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,720
Yeah. 
She was never a star prior to 

518
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,600
Marple, really, was she? 
But she was. 

519
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,960
She was known for playing kind 
of busy body landlady types, 

520
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,000
wasn't she? 
More or less the next door. 

521
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,640
Yeah. 
Yeah, yeah, Noisy landlady's, 

522
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:47,200
you know, not, you know, gossipy
old women. 

523
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,880
Yeah. 
You know, like in Heavens Above,

524
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,320
for example, whenever the 
Reverend Smallwood goes to the 

525
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,640
door, she's, you know, I can't 
talk just now because, you know,

526
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,080
I've got the washing machine on.
Yes. 

527
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,120
That's right. 
She's in an epic episode of 

528
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:05,960
Crime Court, right, where she's 
the accused and she's accused of

529
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,160
poisoning her neighbour's dog. 
And the. 

530
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,760
I mean, I'm not being facetious.
Her performance in it is 

531
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,880
absolutely incredible and she 
must have thought by the time 

532
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:22,080
that she got to to do this, that
you know, well, that's just 

533
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,080
about it. 
And a little did she know that 

534
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,240
she was just about to become a 
world famous star, which she 

535
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,840
would be until she died. 
And yeah, and you and you 

536
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:37,000
mentioned and Anne Way, who 
plays the sweet little old Yes. 

537
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,200
And of course, she's also in 
faulty towels. 

538
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,800
She's one of the she's the major
twitching his wife too small 

539
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:45,440
and. 
Dry. 

540
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,400
Yes, I'm sure. 
I would say that. 

541
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,440
She's like, oh, I'm good to be 
sick. 

542
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,120
I'll give you another one. 
No. 

543
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,720
There's a few, there's a few 
faces from faulty towels In this

544
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,520
you've got Pat Keane, who's 
Laura's mum. 

545
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,800
Yes, yeah. 
Who was? 

546
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,280
Who was in the anniversary 
episode? 

547
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:13,240
Yeah, but she's also she's in 
the episode with a or would you 

548
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,400
call it a? 
I'm not satisfied. 

549
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,320
You know the. 
Oh, Mrs. Richards. 

550
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:20,880
No, no. 
That's John Sutherland. 

551
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,840
That's not Joan. 
That's Joan Sanderson. 

552
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,240
Sanderson not George Sutherland.
I would have been off. 

553
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,960
I'm not satisfied. 
No. 

554
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,200
Yeah. 
Just no. 

555
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,800
I'm thinking of the way, you 
know when he's doing the the 

556
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,440
Waldorf salad and Bruce Boy is 
Bruce Boy is saying this is the 

557
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,240
crummiest of telling all the 
guests coming down and she's the

558
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,960
mother that the the mom and this
Jeff Rogers wife is. 

559
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,000
She's got crutches. 
She says I'm not satisfied. 

560
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,080
I'm not satisfied because people
like you never are. 

561
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,360
That's right. 
That's right. 

562
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,600
But she wasn't. 
She was also one of Bezels and 

563
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,120
Sybil's friends in the 
anniversary. 

564
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:01,920
Yes, yeah. 
Yeah. 

565
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,080
Yeah, absolutely. 
Yeah. 

566
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,640
And of course, Jeffrey Palmer, 
of course. 

567
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,320
Jeffrey Palmer. 
Yes. 

568
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,360
What, They still want the 
sausages and he's one. 

569
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,600
And again one of the funnier. 
Him and Peter Sailor and they're

570
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,199
just very funny at the end of 
it. 

571
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,320
Yeah. 
But anyway, so you know as the 

572
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,320
as the clock progresses, it just
becomes, I mean there's no point

573
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,320
going through all of it but it 
comes a sort of my eyes of 

574
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:32,120
misunderstandings and and yeah, 
yeah it's it's but the the 

575
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:34,840
points of it, when you think 
this is just going on too long, 

576
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,679
you know that we don't need to 
always relate. 

577
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:42,840
There was this particular scene 
of when they're in the car and 

578
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,920
all that. 
You think, why is this lasting 

579
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,440
so long? 
So the pacing of it isn't 

580
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,960
brilliant. 
One of the other things I wrote 

581
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,880
down was a disappointing lack of
hijinks in the monastery, which 

582
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,440
I thought would do. 
I just thought, remembering it 

583
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,080
particularly, I thought what it 
for all sorts of shenanigans, 

584
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:10,120
but really well. 
And I thought the joke about the

585
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,680
because, you know, he thinks 
that they're Trappists. 

586
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,280
Yeah, Michael Aldridge comes out
and he's just smiles and all 

587
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:16,880
that's. 
Wonderful. 

588
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,080
And he's very good, Michael, 
obviously. 

589
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,960
But I thought the joke would 
they were building up to was 

590
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,880
that after he left, Michael 
Aldridge would turn to somebody 

591
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,480
say I wonder what he wanted. 
But of course he actually says, 

592
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,760
Oh no, we speak and I'd rather 
give the key. 

593
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,480
And you couldn't help thinking 
it was like, if I stumbled into 

594
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,440
that honesty, I'd never leave it
look amazing. 

595
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,800
Yeah, OK. 
But. 

596
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,560
And I understand. 
So Stimson has a bath because 

597
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,560
he's covered in mud. 
Yes, and his clothes are taken 

598
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,200
away because they are also 
covered in mud. 

599
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,040
Yeah, but it doesn't seem like 
he's decide. 

600
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:57,600
It doesn't seem like he's got a 
plan for what happens next and 

601
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,000
he seems, but he seems quite 
happy he's in the bath, he's 

602
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,800
singing. 
Well, at the scene before that 

603
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,400
when he's sitting covered in 
mud, he has his sort of first 

604
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,800
moment of self reflection where 
he's just sort of sitting there 

605
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,200
and he obviously doesn't think 
he's going to make it and 

606
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,440
they've already he's already 
dropped away without paying for 

607
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,880
petrol. 
Petrol by the way. 

608
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,640
Four-star at 45 Pencil. 
I saw that. 

609
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:26,240
I actually went back to check 
and the same way that you drive 

610
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:33,600
past petrol stations and say 
even to yourself 01/30, it's 

611
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,960
like 01410 that's bad. 
Yeah. 

612
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,320
So he says he has this sort of 
moment of self reflection with 

613
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:44,280
the prior or the Abbott or 
whatever the KP Fryer and I 

614
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:50,160
just, I just he seems quite 
resigned to all and you think if

615
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,400
they hadn't actually. 
Of course, we've also had an 

616
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,440
excellent scene with Tony Hager 
one. 

617
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,760
Of the stand out scenes, I 
would. 

618
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,200
Yeah, he's and actually one of 
the better directed scenes where

619
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,840
they have the hedge up the 
middle, yes. 

620
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,000
And Tony Hager sitting on the 
tractor and Simpson on the other

621
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,640
side of it. 
You can't see the tractor. 

622
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,120
You going to Norwich? 
Yes. 

623
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:16,160
So if we can just find a 
tractor, what shortcut is it? 

624
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,720
Lost our way. 
So we must quickly find a 

625
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:23,680
tractor. 
Wow. 

626
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:32,080
My advice is this. 
Yes. 

627
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:40,040
If you're going this way, Yes. 
Find a tractor. 

628
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:41,520
A tractor? 
Yes. 

629
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,720
Stay on the bloody thing. 
All the way to Naric. 

630
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,120
Thank you. 
Thank you very much. 

631
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,520
I'll tell you something else. 
Yes, thank you. 

632
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,000
Know what? 
I'm sitting on for my home. 

633
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:07,440
All right, my old dear, you look
that way and I look this and I 

634
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,120
bet you a jam tar I find 
attractive. 

635
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:23,680
First, 
you have that again. 

636
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,320
That's that's quite faulty, 
Rather than. 

637
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,240
That is, you know. 
Yeah, without Stimson being 

638
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,720
because in the car before he 
gets out of the car because 

639
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:37,000
they're stuck in the mud. 
But this time he's picked up an 

640
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,200
LP, Bolton and the lash is still
there. 

641
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,280
He's very reasonable. 
You know he seems like calm down

642
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,840
with reassess our circumstances.
You know we we look at it when 

643
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,480
you know, what do we do we don't
panic. 

644
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,560
And he's all very calm and 
rational and when he gets to the

645
00:38:54,320 --> 00:39:02,920
the monastery he has the sort of
moment of yeah acceptance and 

646
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,880
and you know and he was saying 
and he's seeing things like it 

647
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,600
would have been so nice for the 
kids. 

648
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:10,600
And that's what I mean when 
you're supposed to are you 

649
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,120
supposed to think that he's 
saying that what you really 

650
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,080
means that it would have been so
nice for me. 

651
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,880
Yeah. 
Is it really about the kids? 

652
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:24,120
It's actually about him. 
But again, it's it's just not 

653
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,240
brought completely out, you 
know? 

654
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,360
But it's there. 
But of course it all goes out 

655
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:34,840
the window because he hears God,
I can't remember her name. 

656
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,480
That's terrible. 
Laura. 

657
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:37,440
Laura. 
Right. 

658
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,840
Can we just talk about Laura for
a moment? 

659
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,240
Because, yeah, quite apart from 
the hair, which was so 

660
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:46,840
distracting, that hair. 
Well, she looks like a 35 apart 

661
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,600
I. 
Think she was 24, the actress? 

662
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,040
Yeah, all right. 
She certainly don't certainly 

663
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,080
know sex form. 
I believe the English call it. 

664
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,160
Yeah, that's it. 
Sex year was the first normal 

665
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,040
people call it. 
She was. 

666
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,640
I mean, she was fine. 
Yes, she's fine. 

667
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,440
But. 
She has an introducing after 

668
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,040
all. 
Yeah, she wasn't in a lot of of 

669
00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:10,560
wasn't in much of note after 
this. 

670
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,880
No, she's she's had a few 
episodes of things. 

671
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,000
Sharon Maiden is the actress. 
Yeah. 

672
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,520
Here's the thing though. 
So I've watched this film 

673
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,800
countless times over the years. 
Yeah, I I think I first saw it 

674
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,920
on video when it soon after it 
was released on video. 

675
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,080
So the would have been 87 or 88,
something like that, Yeah. 

676
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,280
And I've had it taped over the 
years, you know. 

677
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,280
So I've watched it so many 
times. 

678
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,840
It was only watching it this 
time round because I'm, I'm 

679
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,040
paying slightly more attention. 
There's a plot point that it 

680
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,720
completely eluded me and I've 
never actually. 

681
00:40:45,720 --> 00:40:48,640
What do you mean affair with the
teacher? 

682
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:55,280
Yes, I had never, until this 
watch connected that she was 

683
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,280
going out with or had been 
seeing. 

684
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,640
Yeah, with Stephen Moore. 
Stephen Moore's character, Mr. 

685
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,400
Jolly. 
Yeah, because it makes sense 

686
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,120
now. 
Because why was Why was Mr. 

687
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,040
Jolly? 
Yeah. 

688
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,760
Why was he travelling Jolly? 
Because because she had fought. 

689
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,720
When she said to them she was 
going for her boyfriend from the

690
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:17,240
petrol station, that's who she 
phoned. 

691
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,680
But we don't know that. 
We have to piece it together. 

692
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,400
Well, no, because, well, no, we 
do know that because he knows 

693
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,920
that, that she's going to 
Norwich. 

694
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,280
Yeah, but. 
But we don't, it's not 

695
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,120
explicitly. 
We don't see him on the other 

696
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,320
end of the phone when she 
phones. 

697
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,640
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. 
You're supposed to just piece 

698
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,840
that he. 
Turns up on her parents house. 

699
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:39,120
Parents house, yeah. 
And he knows that she's going to

700
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,080
Norwich, doesn't he? 
Which, yeah, it never occurred 

701
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,720
to me what you know, how would 
he know that? 

702
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,680
And then Simpson's wait. 
Then Missus Simpson turns up and

703
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:54,120
then that's when because he's 
she has seen him and Laura at 

704
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,320
the petrol station. 
Yes, you think they're having an

705
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,720
affair. 
That doesn't really go anywhere.

706
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:03,280
But that's what she thinks. 
That's why she goes to Norwich. 

707
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,560
She's going to Norwich, the door
Laura's going to, which means 

708
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,600
Jeffrey Hutchins and they're 
going to Norwich. 

709
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,480
Jeffrey Hutchins in this. 
Jeffrey Hutchins He doesn't get 

710
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,640
a single wife, but. 
He's he's made out to be like 

711
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,640
this, this coiled. 
Sporinet Yeah, yeah. 

712
00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:24,840
We're sort of denoted by the 
creaking, the rigidity of his of

713
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,200
his leather outfit. 
Barely suppressed rage. 

714
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,080
But he's just. 
He's completely. 

715
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:34,880
He's very good at passive, so 
they're going to Norwich. 

716
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:40,600
She takes the old woman to 
Norwich and they of course say 

717
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,760
Lauren Stepson are going to 
Norwich and her dad's, you know,

718
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:49,760
much treasured, Austin, whoever,
yeah, Princess. 

719
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:56,800
And then sort of things go awry.
I didn't enjoy. 

720
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,760
No, that's Sorry. 
No, I enjoy everything about 

721
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,120
this film mostly. 
Yeah. 

722
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,120
Well, there's nothing that bores
me particularly, but I felt that

723
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,160
the Penelope Wilton bit could 
have been dispensed with. 

724
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,400
And I think the only reason for 
for that was so that we had a 

725
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,680
little bit of a back story to 
Stimson. 

726
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:24,200
And also because obviously the 
the film climaxes with various 

727
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,720
counties, police forces turning 
up looking for Stimson at the 

728
00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:31,400
Headmaster conference. 
Yeah, I think there's 33 laws. 

729
00:43:31,720 --> 00:43:33,960
And she's been reported as being
kidnapped, isn't she? 

730
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,240
But she's reported by her mother
because we stopped to make a 

731
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:41,360
phone call. 
He goes through faulty on the 

732
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:46,920
phones. 
An old deal across the road says

733
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,080
to phone the police and Penelope
Bolton, her daughter says I'll 

734
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,160
keep them busy. 
Well, you phone the police and 

735
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,360
of course it turns out there 
were. 

736
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,800
She's been in Australia but 
she's back and they were at 

737
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,080
teacher training college 
together. 

738
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,800
Now that's very again, very 
Michael Free and sort of 

739
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,720
coincidences and it brings out 
more of his character. 

740
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:12,400
But after that she's just there 
to sort of complain. 

741
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,160
There's a tall mystery why she 
does anything he tells her. 

742
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,880
Well. 
Yeah, because he says that, she 

743
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,280
says. 
This is a nice car even though 

744
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,480
one of the wings. 
Is on the roof. 

745
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,120
On the roof. 
He says. 

746
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,880
Do you want a test drive or 
something like that? 

747
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,920
And she says yes. 
Now why would she? 

748
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,720
Why didn't she just say, well no
because as she says loudly 

749
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:38,800
seconds later, I've just put out
my lunch so that you know that 

750
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,920
it's it's there are a couple of 
times where you think why are 

751
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,360
people doing this? 
No, I think what you're supposed

752
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,600
to believe is when it gets to 
the end was much better realized

753
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,440
is that Stimpson has, as a 
headmaster has some sort of a 

754
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:57,000
super, but he manages to get 
people to do what they're told 

755
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,280
because of his timber and his 
his authority his. 

756
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,240
Bearing. 
His bearing? 

757
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:04,840
Yeah, exactly. 
You know, so maybe, I think 

758
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,440
maybe that's what it's supposed 
to be, because it gets people to

759
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,560
do things that makes absolutely 
no sense. 

760
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,280
The thing that does actually 
make absolutely no sense is the 

761
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,360
weird sort of suggestion that 
they're they're in for a 

762
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:20,280
threesome in the woods where 
he's dressed with the guy in the

763
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,600
Porsche. 
Yeah, it's very funny, that bit.

764
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,240
But yeah, very. 
But why would he do that? 

765
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,800
Why would he do that? 
Oh, anyway, so that's how we get

766
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,240
because they need him to get 
suit back, basically because 

767
00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:38,640
he's in a, he's in a he's in a 
habit or something. 

768
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,520
What do you call it? 
John Cleese. 

769
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:47,640
Does he have something where he 
likes being semi naked or even 

770
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,600
fully naked in films? 
Because. 

771
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,160
That's a lot. 
Yeah, I mean, you don't. 

772
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,960
You don't. 
You only see his upper half in 

773
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,280
this. 
But obviously, you know, if the 

774
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,960
window or if he'd been taller or
the window, yeah, lower down, 

775
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,720
we'd have seen everything. 
And you see him in his pants. 

776
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:06,120
Yeah and and of course he's you 
see him fully naked from behind 

777
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,360
in Fish Called Wanda. 
I'm not. 

778
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:09,760
I can't remember in Fierce 
Creatures. 

779
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,640
I had think I had my head in my 
hands during much of that film. 

780
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,560
But but he does like to strip 
off. 

781
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,240
Well, he's not. 
He's not backwards coming 

782
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,200
forward, certainly. 
No, the other thing about it as 

783
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,120
well. 
So Laura's having an affair with

784
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,680
Mr. Jolly, who's Mr. Jolly is 
great by the way. 

785
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:29,560
Stephen Moore. 
It's wonderful in this. 

786
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,840
He's a great actor, Stephen 
Moore, and he has that outfit 

787
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,520
that is, again, they're 
completely relying or you know 

788
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,480
that sort of a he's got a 
knitted tie and he wears 

789
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,240
corduroy. 
So he's obviously a woolly, you 

790
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:45,840
know, Liberal. 
He's a geography teacher or 

791
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,560
something, isn't he? 
Yeah, he's obviously, he's 

792
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,920
obviously not say steps of 
material. 

793
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:51,600
Well, he's not. 
He's not. 

794
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,000
He's possibly not quite as as 
left wing as that other teacher 

795
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,360
at the beginning. 
Yeah, the one who looks like 

796
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,200
he's Ricky Tomlin. 
Yeah, basically. 

797
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,360
Slam at the conference, Brian, 
tell all those upper class 

798
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,440
ponces we're going to hang him 
from the lamppost by the old 

799
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:08,960
school tires. 
Right. 

800
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,680
Thank you, Ted. 
The point I was going to make? 

801
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:19,000
So Laura's obviously quite be 
comfortable having a 

802
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,920
relationship with an old, a much
older man. 

803
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,000
Well, he, she even says at one 
point, laughingly. 

804
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,920
I always end up falling in with 
older men. 

805
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,600
Yeah, but there's never any 
suggestion that there's ever 

806
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,560
going to be anything between her
and Stimson. 

807
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,480
You know he he behaves highly 
appropriately throughout. 

808
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,440
He does, yeah. 
There's never any. 

809
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:41,200
And it's quite interesting that 
because you've already set up a 

810
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,160
relationship between a teacher 
and a student. 

811
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,440
Yeah. 
Which, you know, would hardly be

812
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,400
the basis for nowadays, for late
comedy. 

813
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,960
But she never comes on to 
Stimson. 

814
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,240
You know, you're never sort of 
given the sense that she's, she 

815
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:03,520
feels that she's anything other 
than the sort of accomplice. 

816
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,360
Do you not think there's maybe? 
She's quite happy to go along 

817
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:08,560
with it all. 
You know she is. 

818
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,720
And do you not think you know 
when? 

819
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:18,320
When Pat, when Penelope Wilton's
character is totally fed up 

820
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,200
rather and and basically said 
I'm leaving. 

821
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,120
Yeah. 
And she's and Laura's like we 

822
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,480
can't leave Mr. Stimpson and she
goes running up to the 

823
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,240
monastery. 
Do you not think there's 

824
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:29,560
possibly then maybe a little bit
of a schoolgirl crush on him, 

825
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,680
maybe, or some sort of? 
Well, but I think that also I 

826
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,400
think that gets back to this 
sort of a sense that not 

827
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:41,320
terribly well conveyed of his 
sort of innate power as 

828
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,120
headmaster because she has a 
pupil and remember when they 

829
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,200
first beat, she just the first 
time she does this apologize 

830
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,800
while not being in school. 
Yes, I'm very sorry, but it's a.

831
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:53,960
Free. 
I'm on a free. 

832
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:59,360
About the Free is not free, it's
a study period, I tell you one 

833
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,400
of the things that this film 
gave me and watched the back 

834
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,800
again was a total rush of 
memories. 

835
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:10,440
Rush of You know you're you're 
working out your periods for the

836
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,040
day. 
You know your your plan of which

837
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,720
I somehow stuck a week back 
about thought of since I leave 

838
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:19,960
school Yeah. 
How did we keep out? 

839
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,800
But I can't even remember how we
worked it. 

840
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,680
I think we must have done we 
chat or something of what what 

841
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,680
what classes you were in and 
where you are. 

842
00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:29,320
God. 
Yeah. 

843
00:49:29,720 --> 00:49:33,880
That, that took me back. 
No, I don't think. 

844
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,160
I don't think you come away 
with. 

845
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,920
There's a bit, you know, when 
she goes up and she sits on the 

846
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,680
podium with him at the end of 
the guys. 

847
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,600
What's that about? 
That doesn't make any sense. 

848
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,000
It doesn't make any sense. 
And it doesn't make any sense 

849
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,240
unless she feels that she's got 
a relationship with him. 

850
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,440
And. 
But I think by that point the 

851
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:58,480
relationship has, as I say, one 
of sort of accomplice, like 

852
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,600
she's taking care of them or 
she's gone like she's gone to 

853
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,320
the police. 
So she deserves to be sitting 

854
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,360
next to him because otherwise it
doesn't make any sense. 

855
00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:11,600
It's a very strange choice 
because she's only there so that

856
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:16,120
when Alice is deadly comes in, 
she sees her standing next sit 

857
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,480
next to him and then he does a 
sort of double take and doesn't 

858
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,600
realize she's there. 
And that's the only reason, 

859
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,760
because there's no other reason 
for her to be there. 

860
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,600
But anyway, as we say, various 
hijinks leave the sheep because 

861
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,640
she instigates the the plot to 
steal the the Porsche. 

862
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,880
So that's what I mean about her 
feeling that she's, you know, in

863
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,080
it with them. 
And she's quite happy. 

864
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,480
You almost get the impression. 
You almost get the impression 

865
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,920
she's done the sort of thing 
before, dare I say it? 

866
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:51,600
I mean that poor guy who has his
car which is not had stolen. 

867
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,040
He reminded me a bit of a little
bit of like a British Ned 

868
00:50:55,040 --> 00:51:02,040
Beatty. 
The pure, heartless guy who's 

869
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,120
going to has a suit taken at his
job. 

870
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,280
You'll lose his job. 
He's lost all his money just for

871
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,080
the purpose of getting stumps 
into that bloody conference. 

872
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,800
But she's quite happy to do it. 
She doesn't have any compulsions

873
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,560
about it. 
What's the trouble? 

874
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:23,160
Go for a little walk? 
Go for a walk in the woods, you.

875
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:25,320
You want to. 
Go for a walk. 

876
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,800
Don't you want to come? 
What do you mean? 

877
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,160
What? 
No one around? 

878
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:40,040
Oh, this beats everything. 
Sorry about this father. 5 

879
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,680
minutes, that's all. 
Pick a few flowers. 

880
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,200
Come on then, Tim. 
Oh, no. 

881
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:52,360
You want him to come? 
You want Father There? 

882
00:51:52,720 --> 00:52:03,000
Come on, the sun's out. 
It's a funny old world, isn't 

883
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,120
it? 
They managed to snick his this 

884
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:10,680
guy's suit, He's got the the 
Monks robes on, he's giving a 

885
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,080
chase. 
He realizes what's happening and

886
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,200
he's begging them. 
And you've got this this other 

887
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:21,720
guy who's having a whiz behind a
tree watching all this happening

888
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,200
it with mountings that have 
astonishment. 

889
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,960
And then they they managed to 
drive off leaving this poor guy 

890
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,640
and he goes, he goes sort of 
marching over to this guy and he

891
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,280
says I knew it from the moment 
she stuck her thumb up and. 

892
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:43,800
He gives that sort of they 
finally get to the court now. 

893
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:49,720
In the meantime was sitting up 
towards them because they get to

894
00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:52,280
the school, the posh school 
where the conference is 

895
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,880
happening, but before they get 
to it, because the last you see 

896
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,120
of them at this stage is driving
away in the Porsche. 

897
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,120
But in the meantime, Alice's 
statement and the old ladies 

898
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:12,800
have arrived at the conference. 
Some corpers have arrived and 

899
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,200
they know that this is what for 
me. 

900
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,840
This is when it gets starts to 
get really good, Really good, 

901
00:53:17,720 --> 00:53:22,080
because you have all these very 
stuffy head masters herding like

902
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,560
cats, these old ladies that keep
wanting to go out to go to the 

903
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,000
toilet. 
And then more policemen arrive, 

904
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,960
and then they're quite happily 
are saying more for the Stimson 

905
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,520
party. 
Including Nick Stringer, who has

906
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,800
he ever not played a police 
detective? 

907
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:41,800
Sergeant Absolutely. 
The thing is, one of the most 

908
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,200
obvious things, one of the most 
glaring things I noticed from 

909
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:51,160
this conference is it's just 
it's it's a hall full of 

910
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,000
middle-aged white men. 
There's no, Yeah, there's no 

911
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:55,440
other. 
No. 

912
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,280
Well, they're, I suppose that 
head masters of public schools 

913
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,360
in England than the 80s Wales in
the going to be and in fact 

914
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,080
they're not even allowed women. 
Certainly not. 

915
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,720
Well in the sense that they're 
not allowed to bring their 

916
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:09,440
girlfriends or partners, which 
means obviously none of the 

917
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,400
actual heads of women. 
So it's just all these old white

918
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,440
dudes. 
With Benjamin Witch Row as the 

919
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,000
sort of the the chief organizer.
Yeah the brothers good years. 

920
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,640
Jeffrey Palmer. 
There's Peter Celia. 

921
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,080
You know there's loads of them 
yeah they're great. 

922
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:28,000
They're just great and but they 
seem to but what's also very 

923
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:32,880
clever that fade does is he as 
as it progresses they turn more 

924
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:38,080
and more into school boys where 
they were which so Stimson 

925
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,800
actually eventually arrives. 
I just trying to do a speech and

926
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,640
he's got like the bad suit on 
with the one sleeve coming off. 

927
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,440
But he starts to address them 
like his assembly. 

928
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,600
You know, and like, you know, 
tell them to be quiet and you 

929
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,080
all come and sit down and they 
all begin to act like children, 

930
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,640
where they're doing what they're
told and they're standing and 

931
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,040
they're sitting down. 
And even when he gets taken out 

932
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,280
to get and he's getting 
arrested, they'll say they all 

933
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,880
rush to the windows like kids. 
It's just really nice. 

934
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,680
Yeah, that was that was nice. 
The one thing that spoiled it 

935
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:14,280
slightly for me, yeah, was this 
one guy doing like a Spitfire 

936
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:18,160
impression. 
Yeah, he's kind of, yeah, he's 

937
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:19,840
jumped on the chair. 
He's over doing that. 

938
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:24,440
But as an afterthought, I was 
looking at this thing. 

939
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:29,440
I was thinking, I recognize that
skill, the actual skill where 

940
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,800
they were doing this. 
And then they read this at the 

941
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,400
end. 
They find that it's the King 

942
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,760
Edward's School in Edgbaston, 
which is famous. 

943
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:44,920
Alumni include Enoch Powell. 
OK. 

944
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:51,000
And JRR Token, OK, right. 
Because it's on the edges of 

945
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,360
Birmingham, right. 
So very poor school and we're 

946
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,120
talking was there, it was 
basically in the country site. 

947
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,960
But after he got back from South
Africa, that's where he went to 

948
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:01,320
school. 
OK. 

949
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:08,880
So it is a properly Porsche 
school which is sort of 

950
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,880
apartment to support. 
They probably filmed, certainly,

951
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,080
certainly don't know, certainly 
don't know it. 

952
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,520
Yeah, they're probably filmed 
during the school holidays or 

953
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:15,880
something. 
There. 

954
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,360
Oh, presumably, Yeah. 
And what I mean is that's one of

955
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,800
the things that's noticeable is 
it's absolutely, the weather is 

956
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,920
absolutely beautiful. 
It's amazing, absolutely 

957
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:28,240
gorgeous. 
I've got the, I've got the. 

958
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,840
Just let me just find it. 
Here we go. 

959
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:36,760
Filming took place in June and 
July 1985 in Hull, Shropshire, 

960
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,280
in Birmingham. 
I'm guessing the fields. 

961
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,360
All the fields were Shropshire. 
The school at the end is 

962
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,320
Birmingham and presumably the 
the, the, the comprehensive is 

963
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,440
whole. 
Yeah, I felt locked and 

964
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:56,160
confident about somewhere. 
We see a lot of police, a lot of

965
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,840
policemen in this. 
Yeah, a lot of nice little panda

966
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,840
cars. 
Yeah, you got Richard Bryding. 

967
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:07,480
That's his name, isn't it? 
Who's, who's the heavy set now? 

968
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,920
Probably best known as the voice
of Daddy Pig on Peppa Pig. 

969
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,120
Yeah, no, it's funny. 
It's funny that because I was 

970
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,480
watching a clip the other day on
YouTube and I watch a lot of 

971
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,120
YouTube. 
So much wonderful stuff. 

972
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:23,120
But anyway, a clip of the Graham
Nortel popped up, which I don't 

973
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:23,720
really watch. 
The Grim. 

974
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,200
Not sure. 
But anyway, I did popped up and 

975
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,440
there was some Lassie on it I 
didn't recognize. 

976
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,240
But you know, they were saying 
all your father's in the 

977
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,600
audience and it was him and his 
daughter. 

978
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,040
Must be somebody. 
I don't recognize her. 

979
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:37,560
She must be. 
I think she's a musician. 

980
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:43,480
But then what I thought was, I 
thought was really a shame was a

981
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,600
game not said. 
You're an actor, aren't you? 

982
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,360
Yeah, you said fucking you. 
Who framed Roger Rabbit? 

983
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,760
Oh, about respect. 
He's been so much stuff. 

984
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,600
He's a great actor. 
He's also one of my favorite TV 

985
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,520
adaptations, which is the early 
90s. 

986
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:06,760
One of the Tom Jones you know, 
the Max Beasley one, OK, which 

987
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,720
is when she plays a preferred 
old court work with. 

988
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,920
He was. 
He was very good, right? 

989
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,640
He was very good in a there was 
a dramatization of the Yorkshire

990
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,720
Ripper case. 
Yes. 1520 years ago, yeah. 

991
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,280
And he played. 
It was kind of like George 

992
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,960
Oldfield's second in command. 
I say, yeah, no, he's a he's a 

993
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,640
really good actor. 
I just thought it was assumed. 

994
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,960
They said you're an actor. 
You're an actor, Actor, really. 

995
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,040
Oh well, hang on. 
Yeah, because the people 

996
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,080
watching the Graham Norton Show,
none of them would ever clue who

997
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,040
he was. 
No, I was, I suppose. 

998
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,120
You know it's not Pebble Mill at
one. 

999
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,840
You've also got another, another
brief bit with a with a 

1000
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,320
policeman and you've got you've 
got the the actor that I always 

1001
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:57,440
referred to as wrong, Tom Leslie
Schofield. 

1002
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:59,400
Yeah. 
Who? 

1003
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:05,680
Who played Tom in the third 
series of The Fallen Rise of 

1004
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:10,680
Reginald Perrin? 
Yeah, Patch on What's his name? 

1005
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,520
Tim Priest. 
I think I honestly can't 

1006
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,400
remember. 
Yeah, and that weird return 

1007
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:21,680
series of Reggie Perrin the. 
The legacy. 

1008
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,120
The legacy, yeah. 
Yeah. 

1009
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,640
I think Stephen Will said that. 
I think he fight. 

1010
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:27,920
He was the only funny thing in 
it. 

1011
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,760
I remember don't. 
Remember very much about it. 

1012
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,080
When I had Mike Fainted Stevens 
on the show. 

1013
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,200
Yeah, he had a He had a 
recurring role or he he was one 

1014
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,960
of the regular characters in the
Legacy of Regional Perrin and 

1015
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,080
his catch phrase because 
obviously you had in the 

1016
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:48,880
original series you had David 
Harris Jones and what was the 

1017
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:52,680
other one called Tony. 
Kind of just trying to remember 

1018
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,400
great and. 
Super great and super and and in

1019
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,840
this sequel, yes, you've got 
Mike Fenton Stevens and his 

1020
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,840
character goes something that 
wasn't it was either wicked or 

1021
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,920
awesome. 
Which just makes very, very 19. 

1022
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:19,000
Makes my rectum contract. 
A few things we've missed. 

1023
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,880
I have to see the the Shell 
Garage now. 

1024
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:24,600
I can't see enough about the 
Shell Garage. 

1025
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:31,240
It was so awesome, even in the 
background of the short, I 

1026
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:32,680
couldn't quite see the whole of 
it. 

1027
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,800
But there was a promoted poster 
and it was something for Bruce's

1028
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,960
something. 
There must have been the 

1029
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,240
promotion that Shell had on at 
the time with a text textbook 

1030
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,880
cartoon it over a little body 
back head. 

1031
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,880
And he said Bruce's some 
something. 

1032
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,080
And I thought, oh God, I'm 
desperately trying to see the 

1033
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,200
rest of the poster. 
The hospital even looks 

1034
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:58,600
unbearably queen. 
No, today because it just it 

1035
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:03,880
looks like it's that, it's that 
thing where so little seemed to 

1036
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,400
change between sort of the 60s 
and the 80s in a lot of ways. 

1037
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,800
You know, institutional places 
look the same, church halls look

1038
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,160
the same, schools look the same 
to a great extent. 

1039
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,440
And then suddenly everything 
changed. 

1040
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,520
Now it's now it's like another. 
It really is like another. 

1041
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:25,840
It's like a time ward, you know?
The hospital would would just be

1042
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,880
nothing like that now. 
Nice little buildings and little

1043
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,520
gardens and there's no great 
parking. 

1044
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,760
Probably, you know, car parks or
anything. 

1045
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:40,160
Nice little ambulance bays, just
all civilized. 

1046
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,600
I don't know, it's not reality, 
but I mean, it's not like 

1047
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,320
they've dressed the whole 
hospital for him. 

1048
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,600
And of course, somebody taking 3
old ladies away just for the 

1049
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:55,360
day, which now would require, 
you know, disclosure checks and.

1050
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,320
See what the CBA What do they 
call it? 

1051
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:02,000
CBCBR. 
Yeah, so you know and and you 

1052
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,040
know and all sorts of things. 
Just on the Alison Stedman, 

1053
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,520
Yeah, we don't need to talk 
about how great she is because 

1054
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:09,600
we know how great she is. 
But she. 

1055
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,560
We don't have. 
She's given a lot to do, really.

1056
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,480
Is she in this? 
No, no, she's not really given 

1057
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,480
very much. 
She's not really given very much

1058
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,160
to do. 
She doesn't get well prove this,

1059
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,720
which she doesn't get to do any 
state money business. 

1060
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,280
She doesn't even get very many 
lines. 

1061
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:29,160
So it's it's I suppose she was 
at that point in her career 

1062
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,880
where doing a film would have 
been another progression for 

1063
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,760
her. 
You know it's just a good little

1064
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,680
good little step up. 
Getting films, even if it's a 

1065
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:43,440
film or the, you know, localized
low scale like this, is as you 

1066
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,080
know, it's a step ahead. 
And and it was, I'm guessing, 

1067
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:51,680
because was Penelope Wilton 
filming ever decreasing circles 

1068
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,520
around this time? 
86 I would have suspected. 

1069
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:58,120
So, yeah. 
Yeah, she would have been one of

1070
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:02,920
the sort of will cake pieces 
that appeared in it, Which is 

1071
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,600
why I suppose that character 
maybe get written to be a bit 

1072
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:11,040
more than it was then it needed 
to be, you know, because she's 

1073
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,960
very good. 
I mean, she's she's great in it,

1074
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:14,600
you know, because she's great 
for the LP mill. 

1075
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,320
I haven't driven in this country
for 20 years. 

1076
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:18,520
Never mind. 
Off you go. 

1077
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:19,920
Married a dentist. 
Down under. 

1078
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:21,240
Right. 
Just brought the kids over to 

1079
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:22,640
stay with Mum. 
We were going to have lunch. 

1080
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,280
Right, Let's go. 
You've got time for lunch, 

1081
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:25,520
haven't you? 
I bet you're starving. 

1082
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,360
I've got one your age. 
Well, I haven't. 

1083
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:28,760
Leave her. 
Get the fries over the 1st. 

1084
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,120
All right. 
Once round the block, then close

1085
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,720
your eyes and pray. 
On the left. 

1086
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,200
Still, isn't it? 
Right, on the right. 

1087
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:37,880
Lift. 
Lift. 

1088
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:43,400
Right. 
Recasting who? 

1089
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,120
Who would you if Cleese wasn't 
available? 

1090
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,040
Who would you see in this role? 
Oh, blame me. 

1091
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,840
There's a question, I tell you. 
Who was a great head? 

1092
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,000
I'm not sure who would work on 
this. 

1093
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,000
But I tell you who was a great 
headmaster and a contemporary 

1094
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,480
series which are much more 
realistic? 

1095
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:06,360
Mrs. McCluskey. 
No, no. 

1096
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,360
Missing McCluskey would not have
made any of these mistakes. 

1097
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,520
She would have gone to Norwich. 
I had time to greet everybody. 

1098
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,680
I've been absolutely fine. 
There was a Grange Hill Connect 

1099
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:19,320
connection in this film. 
Did you notice it? 

1100
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,640
Oh God, you know what is it? 
Tell me. 

1101
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:30,720
There was a very, very brief 
scene at the train station with 

1102
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,200
Mark Burdis. 
He was a regular on Grange Hill.

1103
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:34,560
All right. 
Oh cool. 

1104
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,800
I couldn't tell you the 
character's name, but it's that 

1105
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:39,640
bit when Simpson's at the 
station and he's talking to. 

1106
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:41,120
Oh yeah. 
Yeah, John. 

1107
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,600
Barden and he that, he suddenly 
stops mid centers and barks out 

1108
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,840
loud the names of these two 
students who are obviously 

1109
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,080
playing hooky. 
Yeah, the girl. 

1110
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,440
The girl is Nadia Swalla by the.
Way Yeah, that's right. 

1111
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:55,080
Yeah. 
With that they've got like the 

1112
01:04:55,080 --> 01:05:00,680
full pub here, the jaggy called 
Dog Collars and things on, yeah.

1113
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,720
Sorry, but you were saying a 
contemporary, somebody who's 

1114
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:07,040
played a contemporary headmaster
for this? 

1115
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,960
Yeah, and Adrian Moore, the 
headmaster, was played by 

1116
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:15,000
Freddie Jones. 
And he was sort of permanently 

1117
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,680
exasperated. 
You know, somebody who was just 

1118
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:24,240
groping for retirement. 
I just, you know, and frustrate,

1119
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,720
you know, like Adrian, even 
Adrian Moore, who you know, 

1120
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:30,680
wasn't a problem at school but 
was just a pain in their hearts.

1121
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,560
And he was, he was great. 
He was a great headmaster and he

1122
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:39,000
was at a very little, but he was
very funny. 

1123
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,600
Maybe if it had been made a few 
years earlier. 

1124
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,160
Yep. 
Maybe Richard Wilson? 

1125
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:47,440
Oh, Richard Wilson would have 
been great. 

1126
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,200
Richard Wilson would have been. 
No, I wouldn't. 

1127
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,600
Had to be made earlier for 
Richard Wilson. 

1128
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:53,040
No. 
Probably. 

1129
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:54,440
Probably not. 
He would have been. 

1130
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:58,680
He would have been perfect. 
Funnily enough, I was just 

1131
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:04,280
watching back recently some 
Richard Wilson because for 

1132
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,800
various reasons I won't go into,
I was trying to find a clip of 

1133
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:09,280
Tutti Frutti. 
Oh yeah. 

1134
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:14,160
And I was talking about it, OK 
And I've seen how you know the, 

1135
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:20,400
the, the breakout stars from 
Tutti Frutti, which is the same 

1136
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:24,920
time I think 86. 
I'm sure it's. 

1137
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,240
I'm sure it's a bit 86. 
OK yeah. 

1138
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:33,720
So the breakout stars from it 
were Emma Thompson really. 

1139
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,280
Robbie Coltrane was always 
already been in films but he 

1140
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:39,080
wasn't that big a star. 
So Robbie Coltrane and Ava 

1141
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:44,400
Thompson were the sort of that 
was what sort of a skyrocketed 

1142
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:49,680
their careers. 87 It was. 
Oh, OK, yeah, yeah. 

1143
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:53,080
But OK. 
When was what year was Thompson?

1144
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,640
Oh, well, it would have been 
just after that, because. 

1145
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:03,000
I watched an episode of that. 
Oh my God, I watched. 

1146
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,720
I mean, I watched it every week 
when it was on, I'm never sure 

1147
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:07,960
why. 
Like I thought I was sort of 

1148
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:11,040
expecting it eventually to be 
funny place of heart. 

1149
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,480
And she was, you know, like at 
the time, tools where she was 

1150
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,360
doing sort of interpretive dance
or something. 

1151
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,520
What the actual fuck is going on
with us? 

1152
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:26,280
The listeners who are unaware, 
Thompson was, rather 

1153
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,960
surprisingly, given her own show
at and she'd barely, but she'd 

1154
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,560
been in Tutti Frutti and an 
episode of The Young Ones and 

1155
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:35,280
and I suppose a few other 
things. 

1156
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,720
But she was relatively unknown, 
wasn't she? 

1157
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,480
I suppose. 
Oh yeah, no, absolutely. 

1158
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,080
She really was. 
And it was. 

1159
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,200
It was a sort of sort of sketch 
show. 

1160
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,760
Yeah, but. 
And she written some of it as 

1161
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,280
well when it was just didn't 
land. 

1162
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:50,960
I it was, yeah. 
I don't know. 

1163
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:52,080
I don't know what they were 
thinking. 

1164
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:56,040
Well, like I say, they did meet 
her a star too different and 

1165
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,480
made her sorry any. 
Of the point is they were the 

1166
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:03,400
sort of breakout stars. 
But what's often forgotten is 

1167
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,080
that, certainly for all of us 
watching it, the real stars of 

1168
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:13,200
it were Richard Wilson and Katie
Murphy as Eddie Clockerty and 

1169
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:18,120
Miss Toner. 
And they were they were 

1170
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:21,359
fantastic. 
And it that it was starting sort

1171
01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:24,080
of gave Richard Wilson's career 
a boost thing. 

1172
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,840
I'm sure this will got to 1 foot
in the grave. 

1173
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:28,640
Hot metal was the year after, I 
think. 

1174
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:31,800
Yeah, but I mean, he had been in
lots of sitcoms. 

1175
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:33,840
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 
You know, he'd been in only one.

1176
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:35,479
I laugh and things like that. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1177
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,880
In an episode of 1 Foot in the 
Grave, yes. 

1178
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:44,240
He's having one of his customary
renting phone calls with some 

1179
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,680
tradesman or other and he's or 
he's trying to get through to 

1180
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:53,600
some help desk and he's talking 
about some something that's some

1181
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,960
delivery to the house or some 
installation to the house or 

1182
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,560
something that's been delivered,
which is totally wrong. 

1183
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,479
And he's trying. 
And the person on the other end 

1184
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:05,359
says, can you remember the name 
of who it was that delivered it 

1185
01:09:05,359 --> 01:09:08,000
or installed it? 
And he said, I think his name 

1186
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,080
may have been Frank Spencer, 
right? 

1187
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:12,920
But of course, Richard Wilson 
had appeared. 

1188
01:09:14,359 --> 01:09:16,560
Oh, really did? 
An episode of Some mothers do. 

1189
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:18,439
Heaven, always the same 
universe. 

1190
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:22,760
Yeah. 
But in a funny one, as opposed 

1191
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:28,120
to some Mothers Do album, Yes, 
which is just a fucking idiot 

1192
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:33,840
falling down. 
What cause One From the Grave is

1193
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,399
one of those shows? 
It's a bit like, in a way. 

1194
01:09:37,399 --> 01:09:40,319
It's like, I don't suppose this 
comparison's ever been drawn. 

1195
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:45,680
It's about like Casablanca. 
You're like if you say to people

1196
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,359
Casablanca is a great film and 
they don't really believe you 

1197
01:09:49,399 --> 01:09:52,120
until they watch it and then 
they realize it's a great film. 

1198
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:54,160
Yeah. 
And one foot of the grave you 

1199
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:58,360
say to people was was just 
amazingly brilliant. 

1200
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:02,760
It's just so brilliant and they 
think that you're over over 

1201
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,680
egging it until they watch it 
because it completely holds up. 

1202
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:08,880
Anyway, the point of Richard 
Wilson would have been 

1203
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:09,840
fantastic. 
Yeah. 

1204
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:13,320
Yeah, Richard Wilson, also one 
of his great lost characters. 

1205
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,040
Bringing me back again to Crown 
Court. 

1206
01:10:17,480 --> 01:10:21,480
You could say he had a recurring
character in Crown Court where 

1207
01:10:21,480 --> 01:10:26,840
he was AQC called oh God, can't 
remember his name. 

1208
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:32,240
He is phenomenally good in it, 
you know, for a program that was

1209
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,920
on in the afternoon. 
Crown Court was incredible. 

1210
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,400
I know this is a bit of a 
diversion, but I'm going to make

1211
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,360
my point. 
It's fantastic. 

1212
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:46,520
And there's also is one of the 
one of the real joys of my life,

1213
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:49,720
as as now if I stumble across 
the episode of Great Court I 

1214
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:55,000
haven't seen before, it's like 
finding a nugget of gold. 

1215
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,800
Anyway, I. 
See, I watched the the episode 

1216
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:03,440
of Crown Court, although because
it was there was a was it a 

1217
01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:05,320
three parter. 
Well. 

1218
01:11:05,480 --> 01:11:09,600
They've written by NF Simpson. 
The one where there's a there's 

1219
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:14,680
a was as a hotel built on the 
edge of a Cliff or something. 

1220
01:11:15,440 --> 01:11:18,600
Yeah, and the toilet. 
The toilets are at the bottom of

1221
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,120
the Cliff. 
The toilets are the bottom of 

1222
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:20,960
the Cliff and they're being 
sued. 

1223
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,760
It was crazy. 
Yeah, once we get for hiring a 

1224
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:28,160
Dave Simpson. 
I suppose they did the odd, a 

1225
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,200
sort of silly one. 
They did a Christmas one called 

1226
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:34,320
Madamos trial which was like 
which actually the prosecuting 

1227
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,800
QC was Terence Harriman who just
died last year. 

1228
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,800
This year actually right you're 
the recognizer. 

1229
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,040
If you saw you're sort of most 
famous probably as he was the 

1230
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:48,960
original prior and had fail sort
of very thin faced act of a sort

1231
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:53,520
of authoritative enemy but most 
of the time in court dealt with 

1232
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:57,480
all sorts of mad shit. 
But it was anyway that he, 

1233
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,160
Richard Wilson's recurring 
characters one of the one of the

1234
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,800
real real joys of it. 
He's just quite a great actor. 

1235
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:08,720
He has still with us the faint 
of absolutely, oh, what a great 

1236
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,360
actor. 
Yeah, but anyway, can we? 

1237
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,200
Can we talk about the ending of 
this film because. 

1238
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,760
I was going to see where we'll 
get to the final light, which is

1239
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,320
where I think it really starts 
to take off. 

1240
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:23,720
You know what he has is, you 
know they're going to talk about

1241
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:25,640
something else because he hasn't
arrived and he makes his big 

1242
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,920
entrance. 
And as I say that the you get 

1243
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,720
the sense that the the all these
head masters are being reduced 

1244
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:36,920
to the level of children because
of the way he's addressing them.

1245
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,640
But this is what I see about the
sort of power that some that 

1246
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,120
Stimpson has. 
Because as all the people who 

1247
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:47,360
are coming in to confront them 
into the room, into the hall, he

1248
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:51,760
talks down to them as pupils. 
And they all do exactly what he 

1249
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,560
tells them. 
You know, find the sea or the 

1250
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,080
somebody study. 
And even Jeff Hutch is creaking 

1251
01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:04,040
his way down. 
He sits down in the three. 

1252
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,880
The three men next to him cross 
their legs. 

1253
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,640
So of course he then goes to 
cross his leg, which is pretty 

1254
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:12,160
more creepy. 
Come on, come on, let's get it 

1255
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:13,960
over with. 
A seat down here. 

1256
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:25,040
Look. 
Long way to know it. 

1257
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:29,640
Was it a long way to that seat 
too? 

1258
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,680
Make yourself comfortable, then 
get all the creaking over. 

1259
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,160
No rush. 
You've got all the time in the 

1260
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,880
world. 
But that, that's the that those 

1261
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,080
were the bits of that made me 
laugh out loud towards the end 

1262
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:55,000
of the film, although they'd 
sort of just sort of comes down,

1263
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,680
finishes with a bit of a fart. 
Then there's a sort of very 

1264
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:03,560
unnecessary orange van full of 
oranges gets knocked over and 

1265
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:06,360
then they just drive away and 
that's it. 

1266
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,640
And this speaks. 
Again, to your theory that 

1267
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,520
Stimson has this superpower, 
this bearing. 

1268
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,560
Yeah, because he can actually 
influence the the police driver.

1269
01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:17,440
Yeah. 
Left. 

1270
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:18,160
Right. 
No way. 

1271
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:19,800
Yeah. 
So you get the whole left. 

1272
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:23,960
Right Thing comes again now. 
Clay's hated the ending. 

1273
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,440
Yeah, well, it's it's not a 
great ending, you. 

1274
01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:32,240
Know and yeah, so, but. 
Frame was insistent. 

1275
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,960
It's it leaves a lot of 
questions. 

1276
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,120
Obviously we don't know what 
happened. 

1277
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:40,320
We. 
Don't know what happened to Pat.

1278
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,360
Penelope Wilton We don't know if
they got the car back. 

1279
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,600
No, she just disappeared. 
The car was. 

1280
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:48,600
She disappeared with the. 
Car for some reason that never 

1281
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:49,920
happens. 
We don't know what happened with

1282
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:50,960
the. 
Guy with the Porsche? 

1283
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:55,920
No, he's still wandered about 
the woods and they're dressed in

1284
01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:00,040
a monks habit. 
He Stimson's facing about 10 

1285
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,840
separate charges. 
Yeah, that range from driving 

1286
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:04,960
away without being for petrol to
kidnapping. 

1287
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:07,560
Yeah. 
Is it Grand Theft? 

1288
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:11,040
Also, is that what they call? 
Yeah, theft and and and and. 

1289
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:12,880
He's. 
He's taken what? 

1290
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:14,960
100 and how much? 
Was that 300 and? 

1291
01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:19,360
£40 or something in cash with 
1320? 

1292
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,280
Pounds or something, which are a
phenomenal amount of money. 

1293
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,600
And also it actually made me, it
should made me also nostalgic 

1294
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:30,880
for the money because it was 
back when if you had a lot of 

1295
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,040
tenors. 
Jesus, it really looked like a 

1296
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:36,880
lot of money. 
No, it just looks like a book of

1297
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:43,680
vouchers. 
But there's one last laugh that 

1298
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:48,840
I got, which is when they're 
going to take him away, John 

1299
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:53,920
Hickson sets the back of one of 
the police and they're trying to

1300
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:55,560
get around. 
She's just not leaving. 

1301
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:02,320
And of course back in the hall 
and we is sitting singing to one

1302
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:08,000
of the headmasters and the only 
song that gets that gets a 

1303
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:11,160
credit at the end. 
I remember as sort of old 

1304
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,720
fashioned song. 
But it yeah it sort of just sort

1305
01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:17,280
of descends into of a rabble at 
the end. 

1306
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,760
So I could see why it cleaves 
wouldn't be that you know 

1307
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,080
because it especially for 
suddenly it doesn't have a 

1308
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:25,160
punchline. 
You know, you kind of feel that 

1309
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:29,800
what it needs is like A tag, 
like one last boom joke at the 

1310
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:35,160
end, which, to be fair. 
Fish Called Wanda does have. 

1311
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:38,280
It's a silly punchline, yeah, 
but it's a good. 

1312
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,680
It's quite a nice little 
rounding off bit where you've 

1313
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:49,360
got Archie and whatever oh Wanda
on the plane and and and Otto's 

1314
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:55,320
just been run over in fresh 
concrete by Steamroller and he's

1315
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:58,520
he's on the wing like that 
episode. 

1316
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:01,400
Yeah, like The Twilight Zone. 
It's like outside episode don't.

1317
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:03,520
Call this stupid? 
And then the plane takes off 

1318
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,440
with you. 
Asshole. 

1319
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:09,880
That's it. 
Which I think's it suited that I

1320
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,600
think, but this this is much 
more ambiguous. 

1321
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,320
Yeah, it just, it just seems to 
sort of. 

1322
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:19,040
I don't know whether it's it's 
sort of like a maybe a stage 

1323
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:22,160
play would finish with all lots 
of crosstalk and shooting on 

1324
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:23,400
this and the cutting would come 
down. 

1325
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:28,400
Maybe that's maybe that's 
something to do with Michael 

1326
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,880
free plays rather than films. 
I don't know. 

1327
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:35,560
I know it's right so but it does
feel like it should have a pay 

1328
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:39,240
off line. 
You know, like the liquor should

1329
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:41,160
finish. 
With him shouting 920. 

1330
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:45,160
But. 
But it can't. 

1331
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:49,480
It just kind of doesn't and the.
The the P office I said as you 

1332
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,480
see as a case is supposed to be 
the bet in the the police car 

1333
01:17:52,480 --> 01:17:54,640
left. 
No wait wait wait wait wait. 

1334
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:59,200
But it's quite weak Yeah. 
But anyway that's the film. 

1335
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,280
I mean it's quite a chart I 
think it's quite a charming 

1336
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:05,040
little film. 
Certainly don't haunted it's not

1337
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:06,720
egregious. 
It doesn't annoy you. 

1338
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:10,720
I'm. 
And it may be again it's. 

1339
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,560
Because I saw it when I was. 
Young and it was one of those 

1340
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,680
handful of videos that were 
available to rent from the local

1341
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,600
video rental outlets. 
So I watched it, rented it again

1342
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:23,840
and again and it's you know, but
I still think it's I still think

1343
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:28,920
it's you know it is dated but 
still what film isn't from the 

1344
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:33,160
80s but it's well, no I but it's
it's it's dated in a sort of. 

1345
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,880
I think one of its strengths is 
that it's dated in a kind of 

1346
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:40,800
again like a kind of charming 
way because it has those things 

1347
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,760
that I like for me personally, 
which I like, which is, you 

1348
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:50,800
know, I sort of I like any film 
that shows what life was like at

1349
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:55,360
that point in time. 
And you know and the glimpses of

1350
01:18:55,640 --> 01:19:01,480
the even how quiet the more. 
Yeah, you know. 

1351
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,480
And I'm you know, I'm sure. 
This filmed at 5:00 the Sunday 

1352
01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:09,240
morning or something but you 
know and the sensibilities of 

1353
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:14,800
just the the is that it's very 
good nature of you know and and 

1354
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:18,960
even though he's getting 
Simpsons getting taken away by 

1355
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:23,680
the police for multiple crimes 
at the end at least when there 

1356
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:28,200
was motivation was a good one 
you know it was to get to the 

1357
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,000
conference to represent the 
school. 

1358
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,800
Yes, I don't care. 
It was may have been a bit more 

1359
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:33,920
about. 
Himself in the school. 

1360
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:35,880
But, but it was. 
That's what he was doing. 

1361
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,600
Yeah. 
There's there's there's one line

1362
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:42,400
in this film that's. 
Lived on that people still quote

1363
01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:43,800
to this day. 
In fact, I heard it. 

1364
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,440
Quoted on what Boss, Listen to a
podcast The other day. 

1365
01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:49,560
I think it was the word podcast 
was David Hepworth. 

1366
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,600
And Martin is the bit where 
Stimpson has given up. 

1367
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,800
He's lying in the ditch dressed 
in the robes. 

1368
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,520
Oh yeah, and he's talking to 
Laura And he said it's not the 

1369
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,480
despair I can stand, I can stand
the despair. 

1370
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:12,360
It's the hope. 
But yeah, it was. 

1371
01:20:12,440 --> 01:20:15,120
It was an enjoyable, it was an 
enjoyable watch. 

1372
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:18,040
I know that I'll be. 
I can't imagine I would. 

1373
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:19,720
Rush to watch. 
It again very soon. 

1374
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,800
Yeah, well, it has. 
It has a. 

1375
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:27,400
Benefit I. 
Think of well, I mean in some 

1376
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:31,200
ways it's a drawback that it's 
it's not encountered as it 

1377
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,400
really is. 
You know when people talk about 

1378
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:40,160
comedy films of the 80s, you 
very rarely see it included but 

1379
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:44,960
you don't even think you know. 
Well, put it this way, there 

1380
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,480
were a limited number of films 
being made and practically it is

1381
01:20:47,480 --> 01:20:53,160
anyway but the and the but the 
ones that they achieved more 

1382
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,640
success with, the ones that go 
wider distribution, which are 

1383
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,840
really the Handmade films 
because they had, they had a 

1384
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:03,240
better set up for distributed 
films. 

1385
01:21:03,480 --> 01:21:05,040
So they get much more 
recognition. 

1386
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:13,920
You know, I mean DUNS in the 
run, for example, which which 

1387
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:15,520
you know was phenomenally 
successful. 

1388
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:18,560
Yes. 
And for and actually. 

1389
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,600
For when it was. 
Shown on I think would have 

1390
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:26,040
shown on Channel 4 for but like 
for decades it was the biggest 

1391
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:29,600
audience they'd ever had really 
which was like on a Sunday night

1392
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:33,320
or Sunday night I think yeah. 
OK yeah it was huge audience and

1393
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:38,080
and I I and it's sort of again 
nuns have done it's all right 

1394
01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:40,600
it's got some nice moments but 
it's no. 

1395
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,880
Oh yeah, that's OK Oh, that's 
reminded me as well. 

1396
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:45,120
You reminded me so. 
The. 

1397
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:48,840
The UKTV premiere of Clockwise. 
Oh yeah. 

1398
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:55,800
BBC One, Christmas Day 1989. 
Wow, BBC One Mr. Trick here 

1399
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,360
because it was it. 
Was showed at 10:20. 

1400
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:06,200
They should have shown it at 
9:20, yeah. 10/20 in the 

1401
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:07,680
evening. 
I'm surprised I didn't. 

1402
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:11,240
Maybe I did watch it. 
I'm surprised I wouldn't have 

1403
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:19,040
1989, Christmas 1989. 
I think Party Games was on that.

1404
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:21,040
Night. 
Was that 1990? 

1405
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:24,280
That's party games. 
The yes. 

1406
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,000
Minister. 
Christmas special, right. 

1407
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,400
OK, Where it becomes Prime 
Minister. 

1408
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:32,320
Because there was it was either 
1989 or 99, Must have been 1990.

1409
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:33,960
It was party games. 
Then Vault of Horror was on. 

1410
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,320
Oh, Volta 50, right? 
Yeah, Yes, where they used to. 

1411
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:38,960
Show. 
You know, like Christmas Eve, 

1412
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,760
the show, a more adult film, 
like sort of later at night. 

1413
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:44,200
Yeah, yeah. 
But Clot Wise is a funny one to 

1414
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,560
put on at that time. 
It's a bit late, isn't it? 

1415
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:48,720
Yeah, because because everything
about it, there's nothing. 

1416
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:50,840
There's nothing. 
That's going to upset Grandma in

1417
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:51,720
this film. 
Is there really? 

1418
01:22:52,480 --> 01:22:55,160
No, no, not at all, but usually 
that slow that. 

1419
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:59,440
Christmas film slot is usually 
for like, you know, it's kids 

1420
01:22:59,440 --> 01:23:03,760
that are away bed, everyone's 
done, people are slumped, 

1421
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:07,680
knackered and these, you know, 
there's a film on it. 

1422
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:08,920
But it's usually. 
A wee bit more. 

1423
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:12,640
I don't like a thriller or 
something like that. 

1424
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,360
Oh, this was originally going to
be called Man of The. 

1425
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,880
Moment. 
Then someone pointed out that 

1426
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:20,680
there was a Norman Wisdom film 
of the same name. 

1427
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:24,360
It's the man of the moment, the 
man of today have. 

1428
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:28,400
You seen? 
Oh, I've Oh, yeah, yeah. 

1429
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,640
Could well you used to see all 
those films, all those non 

1430
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:35,160
wizard films on and likes the 
summer holidays and in fact in 

1431
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:38,560
the 80s that they used to show 
for sort of sort of late mid to 

1432
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:40,880
late 80s. 
There would be like a normal is 

1433
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:44,200
about or a George Formby film or
something like a Friday tea time

1434
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:47,400
on BBC Two. 
That was back when they thought 

1435
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,520
that's what kids wanted to see 
because they were silly. 

1436
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:51,960
Nobody wanted to see them, 
actually. 

1437
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,080
Well, I've never seen a Norman 
Wisdom film in my life. 

1438
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:59,640
I don't worry about it. 
No, it's not. 

1439
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:09,440
The despair, Laura. 
I can stand the despair. 

1440
01:24:09,440 --> 01:24:14,760
It's the hope. 
I tell you what really dates the

1441
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:19,640
film. 
It's something that, it's the 

1442
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:27,400
hanging, the premise, hanging 
the plot on that sort of a 

1443
01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:33,760
combination of misunderstanding 
and coincidence, which is a very

1444
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:39,680
sitcom premise. 
Yeah, you're the use of the use 

1445
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:44,600
of coincidence in a comedy. 
Yeah, Which is which? 

1446
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:48,160
Again, is you know there are. 
Various zillion, like sick of 

1447
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:53,960
troops that used to exist. 
Some. 

1448
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:56,720
It's ain't nothing to do with 
the insurance man coming. 

1449
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,120
You know somebody? 
Thinking that somebody's. 

1450
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:03,080
Will be sexual, but they're 
really not. 

1451
01:25:04,480 --> 01:25:07,560
Yes, So. 
Somebody. 

1452
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:10,640
Believing that somebody is 
somebody's daughter and or 

1453
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:13,280
girlfriend and or mother, but 
they're actually not you know 

1454
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:17,560
that sort of thing and because 
or or somebody's having an. 

1455
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:19,880
Affair. 
Somebody's having an affair, but

1456
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,080
they're really not having an. 
Affair or they are having an 

1457
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:23,960
affair, but they don't think 
they'll have another affair. 

1458
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:29,440
Anything to do with so many and 
so many comedies, you know, 

1459
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:34,560
would just take the boxes and it
just provides A backboard for 

1460
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,000
the, for the, for the, for the 
merriment. 

1461
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:40,280
But they don't really exist 
anymore. 

1462
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,600
You sitcoms barely exist 
anymore. 

1463
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:50,360
You know when you think I can't,
I really can't think of a single

1464
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:55,320
sitcom that's running at the 
moment here not going out. 

1465
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:57,720
Is that still going? 
Is that still hard? 

1466
01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:01,400
I think so. 
So you should be called still 

1467
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:01,880
going. 
Out. 

1468
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,240
But you know. 
Like when you think. 

1469
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,320
That there used to be 3 or 4 a 
week. 

1470
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:12,200
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
It's just something that's. 

1471
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:17,440
Kind of gone so anyway. 
Those those devices are just 

1472
01:26:17,440 --> 01:26:19,840
don't exist anymore and 
therefore the audience don't 

1473
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:25,360
really recognize them this week.
They feel like contrivances and 

1474
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:27,560
I think that's what. 
Really dates the film. 

1475
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:33,400
Because as you say, you know, or
if you're the mobile, you could 

1476
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,240
sort it, but people will forgive
that. 

1477
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:39,360
I mean almost anything made 
before 1999, you could sort any 

1478
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:42,720
film or you know, under the 
Orient Express, could have been 

1479
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:46,760
sorted by a mobile, but the 
only, I think audiences. 

1480
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:49,640
Forgive that because. 
You know you're looking back. 

1481
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,320
Yeah. 
So what really dates it? 

1482
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:57,520
I think is. 
Just the premise, but maybe. 

1483
01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:02,080
That's why it hasn't lived. 
On in the same way that other 

1484
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:05,560
films of the period no have 
managed to live on. 

1485
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:11,720
And if I even even other bakel 
fade stuff like Noise is off or 

1486
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:17,040
whatever, I've lasted longer. 
Yeah, you know. 

1487
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:24,200
I don't know, maybe because. 
They just have a bit less of an 

1488
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,640
anchoring in a period I make as 
you said mentioned before my 

1489
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,160
it's like. 
You don't, you know. 

1490
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:33,600
Michael Freeze, a crazy writer. 
There's no reproach as you read 

1491
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:35,080
Headlong his novel, Headlong 
From. 

1492
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,880
No, I have not about 10 years. 
No, I'm. 

1493
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:45,040
Saying 20 years ago. 
It's it's to do with an art 

1494
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,240
collector who's trying to get 
his hands on an original, 

1495
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:54,960
original Bruegel painting and 
shenanigans occur and it's very,

1496
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:56,920
very good. 
That's all I'll say. 

1497
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:00,160
But I mean, I'll tell you what 
it does. 

1498
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,960
It does have. 
I tell you what's really good 

1499
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:06,920
for it. 
In my eyes it's a Bakel frame 

1500
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:08,720
script. 
As you see. 

1501
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:15,760
We have set up situation 
shenanigans. 

1502
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:20,320
Yeah, great, brilliant. 
Whatever. 

1503
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:23,440
Whatever drawbacks this film 
has, it's got High Junction 

1504
01:28:23,440 --> 01:28:25,520
shenanigans, doesn't do anybody 
any harm. 

1505
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:29,760
And it finishes and it's fine on
the other. 

1506
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:35,200
Hand you could have. 
Made Lee and Mike Lee's Canon, 

1507
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:37,880
although with the exception of 
things like Topsy Turvy, which 

1508
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:42,800
are superb, this is a makely 
film. 

1509
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:50,480
Got got a screenplay, Comedy, 
comedy, comedy, comedy, Dead and

1510
01:28:50,480 --> 01:28:51,520
it doesn't. 
It doesn't do. 

1511
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:52,320
That to you? 
No. 

1512
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:55,360
I just can't be doing with that.
What about? 

1513
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,520
Ken Loach's Clockwise. 
Oh, he could just fuck off. 

1514
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:03,560
I don't avoid any of that. 
Ken Loach's Clockwise would 

1515
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:06,520
never have left the school. 
They've been too busy trying to.

1516
01:29:07,480 --> 01:29:10,000
You'd were fixated first of all 
on the relationship between 

1517
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:13,880
Laura and the teacher, and then 
you'd have gone back to the. 

1518
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:18,080
House to be cat show on the. 
Floor and people starving and 

1519
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:20,880
then gangsters would appear but 
some what they working class 

1520
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,280
people would see them off and 
then somebody would buy a 

1521
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:26,320
convenient dress and then drive 
through a window and they just 

1522
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:32,520
get just just pissed off. 
You know I. 

1523
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:35,760
I I just, whatever, just 
whatever. 

1524
01:29:37,440 --> 01:29:40,120
All right, well, we've we've 
managed to. 

1525
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:43,040
Find a lot to talk about a film 
which which is yeah, there 

1526
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,600
wasn't not a huge amount to talk
about this film but we managed 

1527
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:48,720
to find a lot to talk about. 
So yeah, Chris, thanks. 

1528
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:52,800
Thanks again and I look forward 
to speaking to you next year and

1529
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,040
all the best for the festive 
season and a happy new. 

1530
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,480
Year and a happy new year to all
of the good pods. 

1531
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,600
Absolutely Happy New Year. 
Well, actually. 

1532
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:05,760
There is going to be a special 
show on New Year's Eve, which I 

1533
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:07,960
was going to keep as a surprise,
but I may as well just tell you 

1534
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:15,360
now it's listeners top 20 Peter 
Sellers films in which myself 

1535
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:18,080
and a couple of guests including
Mark Cousins. 

1536
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:22,080
Not that, not that one, not the 
one that you don't like. 

1537
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:26,480
No. 
Talk about the top 20 Peter 

1538
01:30:26,480 --> 01:30:29,680
Sellers films as voted for by 
Goon Pod listers and it's 

1539
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:34,680
already in the can and and so 
look out for that on Sunday. 

1540
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:36,840
God bless us, everyone.