1 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:20,960 The hello and welcome to the extra credits of Sam Raimi Send 2 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,720 Help starring Rachel McAdams and Dylan O'Brien. 3 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,880 I'm Trey and I'm Kelsey. This movie is a ton of fun. 4 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:28,520 I'm so excited for people to see it. 5 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:33,920 It releases wide this weekend. It is A2 Hander Island survival 6 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,400 story that starts off as a workplace comedy and mutates 7 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,560 into this like deranged sun kissed campy horror romance. 8 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,360 What did you think about Sent Help? 9 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,080 We saw it like a week ago now. Yeah, I mean, it was a lot of 10 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:49,720 fun. Like, I'm actually really 11 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,760 surprised at the huge positive response that it's getting from 12 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,400 general audiences because we went to see it because it has 13 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:03,560 both of our boyfriends, Dylan O'Brien and then Rachel McAdams, 14 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,080 obviously. And so like, I knew people would 15 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,480 go to see it probably more so even for Rachel McAdams, just 16 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,240 for like broader audiences. But we walked out and we were 17 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,120 like, that was fun because we love the people in it, right? 18 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,240 Like didn't love the movie, but whatever. 19 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:24,720 Like it was not a waste of time, but people are loving it and I 20 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,240 and I love that for the movie. I love that for Rachel McAdams 21 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,080 and Dylan O'Brien. Yeah, I think the people also 22 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,040 love Sam Raimi and his unconventional heightened style 23 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,120 and he hasn't made a horror movie in quite a while. 24 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,780 And obviously he is the the fame director of the original Spider 25 00:01:38,780 --> 00:01:41,600 Man films from the 2000, the Tobey Maguire movies that are 26 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,520 amazing that we also love quite a bit. 27 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:48,680 Yeah, if you like Sam Raimi, his like, let's say, absurd, campy 28 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,280 visual style and even dialogue that he likes to have in his 29 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,320 movies where everything's a little bit exaggerated and 30 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,760 playing with genre and tone, and you like Rachel McAdams or Dylan 31 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,520 O'Brien, you'll probably love this movie. 32 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,600 So I think 2/3 of that really worked for me in this film. 33 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,800 So therefore I thought it was a weird, genuinely fun experience. 34 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,160 I think our theater loved it. So I was a little bit curious to 35 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,480 see what it would be like to hear from mass audiences because 36 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,840 we saw an early screening. But I also completely understand 37 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,880 the response because I think that, you know, a few years ago 38 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:26,680 we got a fun satire starring Ray Fiennes and Andy Taylor Joy and 39 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,120 Nicholas Holt called The Menu, which this movie reminded me of 40 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,320 quite a bit. Oh yeah, that's really 41 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:33,400 interesting. Comedy. 42 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,920 I definitely, I mean, as we talked about Dylan O'Brien 43 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:38,680 today, I think Nicholas Holt is an interesting comparison of 44 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,320 like different career trajectories for like these type 45 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,440 of men that are that's a broadcast in Hollywood. 46 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,880 Yeah, that's fun. OK, to start off today's pod, I, 47 00:02:47,920 --> 00:02:50,440 I want to get in a little bit into what our January has been 48 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,760 like because we we haven't done an episode in a bit and also 49 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,000 what February looks like because it's a little bit of a thinner 50 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,880 movie month. Let's start with a fun question, 51 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,480 OK? How would we do on an island 52 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:05,640 like this? Before I answer, listeners, 53 00:03:05,640 --> 00:03:07,840 yeah, in the comments, let us know. 54 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,240 Please let us know who do you think would survive? 55 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,440 Because give us your best guess. I feel like this is always, you 56 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,200 know, something, especially since we are maybe not like the 57 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,800 prime survivor generation, although, yeah, you are, I guess 58 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,880 like you are maybe a product of like your parents watching it 59 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,520 all the time. So you watched it all the time? 60 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,880 Boston Rob, baby. Yeah, I grew up with Survivor. 61 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:29,880 I don't know what that is. It's OK. 62 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:35,320 OK, so I, I, you know, watch, end up like watching Survivor 63 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,280 for the first time, even though obviously like I knew about it. 64 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,400 We grew up in like, the game show Fear Factor generation, 65 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,680 certainly of like people doing crazy shit and eating bugs on TV 66 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,800 and like sitting in a coffin of snakes. 67 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,280 I was more Amazing Race, Big Brother, Survivor. 68 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:56,480 I was more in those spaces. OK, I was more American fear 69 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:01,800 factor and then whatever other like MTV games that they played 70 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,440 to like kind of a, you know, gamified hot people survival. 71 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,600 Your yeah, your shows feel like they're into like, extremities, 72 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,600 and mine were like, into like social competition. 73 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,840 Yeah, I mean, I think Survivor is an interesting concept. 74 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,680 We watched a couple seasons during the pandemic, right? 75 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,600 Like we really got into it. I was having a a really fun 76 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,200 time. And I think so, you know, 77 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,840 there's a there's a different question of like who would 78 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:26,600 actually win Survivor the TV show, which is very pivotal. 79 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:31,120 And I love about send help in terms of Rachel McAdams 80 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,920 character. But the question is, would I, 81 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,760 you know, be the one who survives in Survivor the show or 82 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,480 in a barooned island castaway send help situation? 83 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:44,640 Because I think those are two different. 84 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:45,880 Questions. It's a great clarification. 85 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,640 Let's do both. OK, Starting with Survivor. 86 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,880 Yeah, Starting with Survivor listeners let us know Trey's 87 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,800 going to win Survivor. I'm out. 88 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,920 I can't build a shelter. I can't start a fire. 89 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,320 I would obviously do a lot of like YouTube prep, right? 90 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,600 Like I would I I can really study. 91 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:01,560 I'm a great study. We're not. 92 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,120 Going to be on Survivor together though, right? 93 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,280 This is like our individual seasons, like we have other 94 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:06,960 groups of people that. Were I guess so, why would we? 95 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,640 Would we? Are there survival? 96 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,000 Couples. They have that. 97 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,640 That's awesome. I feel like we could do a great 98 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,520 job with that. We would be very, I mean, we 99 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,760 have a podcast like people know our our dynamic, I guess sort 100 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,400 of, but I mean, we would certainly get into some fights. 101 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,160 Like we are both very strong headed when it's like we need to 102 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,560 do something that maybe like an amazing race kind of thing, like 103 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,000 we need to, you know, do this task. 104 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,920 We both feel a certain way about it. 105 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,640 So I feel like we could we could make some entertaining TV in 106 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,720 terms of our individual seasons. I'm out in like 1 of the first 107 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,600 rounds possibly. I feel like I'm akin to the the 108 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,600 guy who made White Lotus. No, I think you're 109 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,080 underestimating how like of an enjoyable experience it is to be 110 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,200 around you while also feeling kind of like a non threatening. 111 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,000 Oh, like I'm going to speak up on people. 112 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,440 Yeah. And you, I mean, you remember 113 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,200 probably some of the seasons that we watched during the 114 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,200 pandemic where there was like a there was one season in 115 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,600 particular where this guy, forget what who he was or what 116 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,880 season it was, but he won like 70% of the competitions got to 117 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,080 the last two carried this like older person with him. 118 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,000 It was an older woman or man. And then they yeah, they ended 119 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,720 up winning the woman. The woman, Yeah. 120 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,200 Spoiler alert. And like, I think it's probably 121 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,080 fun, but he was like fake happy for her. 122 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,440 Yeah, he was acting. That performance deserves extra 123 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,800 credit for that Survivor season because he we watched the like 124 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,080 cast reunion thing and like the work, the the effort in that 125 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,560 performance of being like fake happy nice guy. 126 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,200 I'm like, I actually won this shit. 127 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,840 Like how in the world? Yeah. 128 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:51,920 I think teachers or people in service jobs or counseling or 129 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,720 even like HR, anything where you could deal with complicated 130 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:59,120 personalities 24/7 and teachers in particular do like 5 jobs at 131 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,160 once. Like I think they would do 132 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,520 extremely well in social status survival games like Survivor. 133 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,840 I do forget. Yeah, like people vote for you. 134 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,920 I just think that I wouldn't like, yes, I, I would be fine 135 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:15,600 with that aspect of it. Like I, you know, I can put up 136 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:21,320 with with all types of people, but I do think in terms of being 137 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,280 an asset on the island, there's just really not a lot I could 138 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,360 do. My thing would be creating mini 139 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,880 alliances with all these people who hate one another. 140 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,000 That would be my goal. I mean, I think that you would 141 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,400 win the show. I I don't think I'd win because 142 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,240 I think that I would. I would probably get overly 143 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,320 competitive in the games, make make myself a threat. 144 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,080 I'd become a threat by getting third or second or first place 145 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,360 too many times in a row. They're like, well, that one 146 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,880 guy's won too many medals. He we can't vote him out at the 147 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,480 tribal thing. So like, I guess we'll just get 148 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,200 Trey this week. I feel like that would that 149 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,200 would happen to me. It would be like one of the the 150 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,560 unexpected. Like I can't believe they they 151 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,720 voted them off. Right now, if we go to the 152 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:02,720 actual disaster scenario. But but so you OK, so you do not 153 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,720 think you'd win survivor the game either? 154 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,000 But who do you think would make it further, me or you? 155 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,720 It'd definitely be. You would make it further. 156 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,240 That's what I'm saying. I think that unless you are a 157 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,200 freak athlete and like incredibly like extraordinarily 158 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,600 good at puzzles, which happens to be like one of every two 159 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,440 games in Survivor, then you probably are not going to make 160 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,720 it into the top three or top 4 because you need that immunity 161 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,480 or whatever it's called. And you can find them like the 162 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,240 hidden things around the forest and stuff like that. 163 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,840 It's been a minute since I've watched Survivor but I grew up 164 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,240 with. It I would definitely dedicate 165 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,919 all my time to that. I would just be looking in the 166 00:08:34,919 --> 00:08:37,240 forest. Like I feel like that's the only 167 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:38,559 thing. I'm just thinking you're you're 168 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,039 underestimating how much of a good hang you are and how much 169 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:43,039 people would want to keep you around, even if you're 170 00:08:43,039 --> 00:08:45,360 physically like not into the competition And you just like 171 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,240 we're like, I'm not going to do it today. 172 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,240 Like if you're just like in the back, like don't worry about me. 173 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,480 And like we shouldn't vote. We shouldn't waste a vote to get 174 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,720 Kelsey out this week. You just keep going. 175 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,320 Keep. You know, whatever that I 176 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,640 something that I do think is a a strength of mine is that I do 177 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,880 like tell people when I when I appreciate them, you know, and I 178 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:08,440 do think that there are a lot of thankless pieces of this 179 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,480 survivor team. You know, whoever's building the 180 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,960 shelter, whatever. Like I would certainly like Trey 181 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,960 makes us dinner every night. Like I'm always like, this is 182 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,000 like the best fucking meal I've ever had. 183 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,320 Like not to not to make you feel great. 184 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,320 What's a different different example besides maybe like? 185 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,560 Thank you so much for cooking. Thank you so much for my 186 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,200 porridge. Food. 187 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,840 No, I mean more like if someone does something that I think is 188 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,800 like good, I'll tell them, you know, So I would definitely 189 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,760 like, you know, tell people all the time this fish fucking 190 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,000 amazing. Great job, Greg. 191 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,760 And you know, I would I would just I would make it known. 192 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,000 So maybe, you know, they have a soft spot in their heart for. 193 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,440 Me. My only concern with both of us 194 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,680 is I don't know if either of us are great at group projects. 195 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,280 You in particular are not a group project person. 196 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,920 If you're better at things than anybody else in the group, 197 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,720 you're like, I'll just do it. Oh hell yeah. 198 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,720 In fact, that's sort of our love story, which will I think hold 199 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,320 off on the main feed to put that out there. 200 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,120 We'll talk about that on. The page that's also for a long 201 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,680 time listeners the origins of mine and James's friendship as. 202 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:19,760 Well, yeah, that's true. Wow, getting back to send help 203 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,040 in this island that Dylan O'Brien and Rachel McAdams find 204 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,800 themselves on. Would you survive with whoever 205 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:30,440 your biggest op is on an island for weeks? 206 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,080 I don't think I would survive more than a few days. 207 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,400 I would certainly die very quickly. 208 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:40,440 I think, you know, sun exposure. I, you know, we, we live in 209 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,520 Colorado. We just recently like went to 210 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,960 Florida and I essentially like just could not deal with the 211 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,800 heat. I was like, I'm dying. 212 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:57,160 I think that, I think just that one example is, is, I mean, I 213 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,160 could pull it together obviously if I'm in a survival situation, 214 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:06,400 but yeah, I would just suck it fishing and and doing all the 215 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,360 things I need to do. Yeah, we're not really. 216 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,880 We're not outdoorsy people. It's weird to say that now that 217 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,240 we've moved to Denver. Like I've never been camping. 218 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,240 I just, I've never found an interest in that. 219 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:17,680 That's not really interesting to me. 220 00:11:17,680 --> 00:11:19,200 I don't really want to go camping. 221 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,280 So I think I would die pretty quickly in this. 222 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,200 I think I would go find a cave and then I would probably get 223 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,640 fucked up by that boar in the movie. 224 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:27,920 And that's that's how I'd go out. 225 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,760 Yeah, the wild animals scare me. I, I, yeah, I don't know either 226 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,960 of us would do well. Like a depressing death. 227 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,720 Yeah, like, oh shit, that's we. Need a Rachel McAdams? 228 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,240 Yeah. OK. 229 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,720 So we weren't originally planning on doing a full episode 230 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,400 on this. We just did 10 minutes on 231 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:43,960 Survivor. So I apologize about that if you 232 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,040 came for sent help. But we're doing this movie 233 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,000 because it is blowing up. We did have a good time. 234 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,440 I think we both have a lot to say about the actors and some of 235 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:58,440 the story that we liked in this. But also January's just been, I 236 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,960 think, a thin movie month. I think February is pretty thin 237 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,160 too. I recommend people again go see 238 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,160 28 Years Later Part 2, The Bone Temple, if not because I think 239 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,400 we both agree that's one of our favorite horror movies in quite 240 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,880 some time. Definitely been two very fun 241 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:17,160 theater experiences in a horror movie. 28 years later Part 2 and 242 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,200 then I guess this is sort of AI mean people. 243 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,240 It was marketed as a horror movie, but I wouldn't 244 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,840 necessarily call it that, but still a very fun theater 245 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,120 experience. A lot of reactions. 246 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,560 Yeah, I think a camp horror comedy is what I would call send 247 00:12:31,560 --> 00:12:36,480 help for February. Our Patreon listeners voted for 248 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,320 us to cover Sinners, which is currently the most Oscar 249 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,840 nominated film of all time with 16 nominations. 250 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,200 Pretty wild. We didn't even discuss the Oscar 251 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,600 nominations. We do not have to do that right 252 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,000 now. I'm sure we will on Patreon 253 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,160 because we're not really an award show. 254 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,600 It's not really thing a thing that we care about too much. 255 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,840 But obviously the the Academy still has a lot of like 256 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,960 significance. And so we'll we'll certainly 257 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:03,760 talk about that on Patreon because we are also in February 258 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,280 doing our first extra credits cup if you're curious what that 259 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:09,840 is. So are we because we are 260 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:14,320 creating a well, I guess I am creating an Olympic style movie 261 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,400 competition designed for just Kelsey and I on Patreon. 262 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,840 I'm going to keep the details, I guess private from you from. 263 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,520 Me as well. But that episode is coming later 264 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,400 in February. As for February episodes we 265 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,160 might see on the main feed. The big one on paper is 266 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,240 Withering Heights. I think that's what it's called. 267 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:39,600 Directed by Emerald Fennel, who has quietly or loudly, depending 268 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,320 on how you look at it, became one of the most like 269 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,040 entertainingly divisive film makers working today with only 270 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,400 two movies promising young woman in Saltburn movies that I think 271 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,720 we liked a lot more than most people, especially Saltburn as a 272 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:57,000 sort of like modern talented Mr. Ripley riff with weird 273 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,200 subversions of like period cinema, like period piece 274 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:05,200 seminar cinema. She I I like that director. 275 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,400 I like her as a writer too. I think she's interesting. 276 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,680 And so I'm I am curious to see this movie. 277 00:14:09,680 --> 00:14:11,960 I'm not loving the trailers. I'm not liking the scenes that 278 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,800 I'm seeing. I'm not loving the discourse 279 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,120 about the casting that I wasn't aware of from this. 280 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,680 I think it's Bronte. Yeah, the Bronte sisters. 281 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,760 I haven't read this book and I, yeah, I I'm not like familiar 282 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,720 with the Bronte sisters, honestly, even though I was an 283 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,840 English major. But but yeah, like so obviously 284 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,840 a lot of like valid conversation about the casting and Jacob 285 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:34,640 Laurie. But I mean, just like in 286 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,800 comparison to her other movies, I think there have been 287 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,680 interesting things that she gets like a lot of hate for in, you 288 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:46,480 know, promising young women and then woman singular and then 289 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:48,800 Saltburn. But you're right, they always 290 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,080 have like, I feel like she's doing something interesting 291 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,760 versus here it feels a little bit more straightforward. 292 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,640 I don't know if it's just because it's an adaptation. 293 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,320 Like a romantic drama period piece. 294 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,480 Yeah. I think there be some surreal 295 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,000 stuff that happens in it. Yeah, based on the trailer, that 296 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,080 looks a little like more maximalist than usual, more 297 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,720 hyper sensual than usual. So even though I'm not expecting 298 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,040 her like sexual provocations and it just being like straight up 299 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,680 sex scenes, I think she'll do something. 300 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,040 I'm sure. Yeah, time. 301 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,480 It looks like they're doing something with time because I'm 302 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,880 seeing a Lordy dressed in different fits throughout the 303 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,040 movie, like different classes of people or being with different 304 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,560 classes of people. So I can't really tell what's 305 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,120 going on. Yeah, I don't know. 306 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,640 But I mean, it's I guess in comparison to her other movies, 307 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,600 it feels a little like less like something that I'd normally. 308 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,560 To go see, I doubt we'll cover it, but if we do, it's because 309 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,400 we love Margot Robbie. That's why we'll cover it 310 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,280 because she's like one of the goats. 311 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,640 Also Scream 7 at the end of the month. 312 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,760 That's basically it. And Scream Seven I'm like 313 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,840 genuinely conflicted about because the Scream movies 314 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,080 fucking rule. But the way that studio handled 315 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:59,160 firing Melissa Barrera and her kind of support of Palestinians 316 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,880 and that humanitarian crisis and like the studio looking at it as 317 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,000 something that she should be cancelled for. 318 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,200 I know hundreds of artists are working on that movie. 319 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,720 So we should go and support a film that hundreds of artists 320 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,360 work on. But I do feel sort of strange 321 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,920 giving that movie any oxygen considering how they handled 322 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,560 that. Which now with the rumors that 323 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,120 Mark Ruffalo, which I, I'm going to say all caps rumors that I 324 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,200 saw recently that Mark Ruffalo might have been laid off or 325 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,320 something similar from Marvel as the Hulk. 326 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,560 Again, I don't know how true that is, but if we continue to 327 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,640 see shit like this, I'm just going to try my best, like not 328 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,120 see these movies in theaters hoping they lose money because 329 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,600 the Scream is such an important IP to me. 330 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,760 I'd rather the studio just like, trade it to somebody else. 331 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,280 I don't know what the rights look like for that. 332 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,840 But yeah, that's really disappointing. 333 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,040 So there's not really a lot to cover in February. 334 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,360 It is a, it's a bit of an empty month. 335 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,120 Our main feed will be back more consistently toward the end of 336 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,520 February, beginning of March. We're trying to do a Best of 337 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,280 2025 episode in late February, early March. 338 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,360 Unlike most outlets, we actually want to our listeners to see all 339 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,839 the movies first before we do a ranking episode of our favorite 340 00:17:06,839 --> 00:17:08,960 movies. I don't know if listeners relate 341 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,839 to this, but every movie, movie, podcast or like critic or outlet 342 00:17:12,839 --> 00:17:15,839 will put out their favorite movies of 2025 and discuss them 343 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:18,640 in detail. And most people cannot see half 344 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,119 of the movies that they're talking about. 345 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,680 And I find it to be like intensely frustrating because 346 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,280 they're all competing with one another and not really competing 347 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,800 for any demand. Like I sometimes I wonder if 348 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,800 it's just like film critics consuming each other shit and 349 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,400 not actually mainstream audiences because who like, how 350 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,800 can you, some of us see these? Like the Testament of Anne Lee 351 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,360 just came out like, you know, a couple days ago for us at least. 352 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,440 And it was on so many top ten lists and nobody could see it 353 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,240 like a month ago. So we have a lot of movies to 354 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,800 watch throughout February. We'll make a list then. 355 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,320 And also, I mean, you know, we are in a position where we're 356 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,560 not doing this like as a commercial, you know, like 357 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,040 project. So we also like want to see all 358 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:06,480 the movies and we usually like tend to go a little bit more in 359 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,120 depth because it's later on in the year. 360 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:10,240 I mean, it makes sense, obviously, to do like best of 361 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,440 movie lists in January when the year ends, but especially since 362 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,760 the Oscars is around the time that people are kind of like 363 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,480 catching up on all the movies that are nominated. 364 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,080 It's just like, I think the best time to talk about it. 365 00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:28,840 Yeah, I agree. We did catch up on some things 366 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,280 that we missed Splitsville. We did. 367 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,280 Which was one of the best comedies I've seen in a year or 368 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,000 two. Yeah, so surprising. 369 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,080 When I saw the trailer, I was like, this feels kind of like 370 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,280 streaming movie that is whatever, a dry comedy. 371 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,000 Yeah, but it is so good. Like it's it's wild to me that I 372 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,000 feel like I'm hearing people talk about friends we or people 373 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,440 we meet on vacation. The new Netflix movie. 374 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:56,560 Did you watch? That I I tried to watch some of 375 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,000 it and like respectfully to people who I know a lot of 376 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,640 people are liking it. I and also that has to do with 377 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,280 like people reading the book, but I could not get through it. 378 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:10,440 Like it opens with we're going to do Harry Met Sally today and 379 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,640 it opens with like a Harry Met Sally situation where they meet 380 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,520 and they go on a car ride and like don't like each other. 381 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:23,320 And it is just like one so cringy and the performances are 382 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:28,280 bad and it and the story isn't interesting and it's so it made 383 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,680 me sad. I tried again, even on like a 384 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,360 different night. Couldn't do it. 385 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,800 But Splitsville, I think is what I mean to say like if you were 386 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,960 like, you know, like friends on vacation was OK. 387 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,040 Why is everyone talking about this? 388 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,880 Go watch splitsville. It is so good. 389 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,560 It, it actually like made me laugh throughout the whole 390 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:51,840 movie, even with kind of I, I think that the trailer itself 391 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,520 had a lot of like comedic things like these two men fighting or 392 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,400 whatever that felt like too out outsized for the movie in the 393 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,320 trailer itself, where I was like, oh, this is just like 394 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,040 another comedy that's like doing something. 395 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,000 But it fit perfectly. But it was actually like so 396 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,840 funny throughout, like the and. It was like original. 397 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,200 It felt really unique. Like I think I saw one of the 398 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,160 best action scenes in since John Wick four in the middle of this 399 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,800 romantic comedy. Yeah. 400 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,600 Or like marable comedy. I felt like if this is 40. 401 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,920 I know whoever styled movie graphed the the fight sequences 402 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,360 really deserves extra credit there. 403 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:30,640 Audra Arjona and Dakota Johnson also have like never acted 404 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:31,840 better. I think these are their best 405 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,200 performances I've ever seen in these movies and Dakota Johnson. 406 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,880 I really love Dakota in. This I know when she starred in 407 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,640 materialist, which was a huge quote UN quote ROM drum ROM com, 408 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,560 more romantic drama. Obviously that was pretty bad 409 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,920 from Celine Song earlier this year and we talked about that 410 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,560 already and it was weird to see a whole like $100 million movies 411 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,960 surrounding around Dakota Johnson from a great director 412 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,640 like Celine Song kind of falls short for most people like us. 413 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,120 And then I saw her in this, you know, Splitsville ROM com that 414 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:02,800 was under scene and she's maybe giving her best performance I've 415 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,440 ever seen. Yeah, Well, I mean, I think 416 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,320 that, you know, Dakota Johnson like is we we've talked a lot 417 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,040 about her and talked about her on the materialist episode, but 418 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:17,480 is often cast as like play this mysterious hot woman who's like 419 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,880 shockingly hot for being a quote UN quote older woman in 420 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,080 Hollywood, You know what I mean? Like that's like basically the 421 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:29,040 role that she gets is like just emphasize how how sexy you are. 422 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,400 And here she like is able to do that, but she obviously is able 423 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,920 to break past that and actually have a character. 424 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,640 And it was actually really refreshing to see because I, I 425 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,160 think it's such a boring role that she is often asked to do. 426 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,840 And Arjona is like fucking unreal in the movie, like, and 427 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,280 just genuinely one of the most beautiful people I've ever seen 428 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,080 in a film. To the point where I was like, 429 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,240 why is she not in everything? And I know that she was just in 430 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,520 Hitman and she was an and or and so she's been in some stuff, but 431 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,520 I was like, why is she not in the next Knives Out? 432 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,000 Why is she not starring in the Ocean's reboot? 433 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,760 Like why is she not a major superstar right now? 434 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,720 And I hopefully she becomes one this next year or two. 435 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,360 Some other things. I saw the RIP from Netflix. 436 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,480 Don't recommend it. How was it? 437 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:14,840 How was it? How was it? 438 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,280 How was it? If you like movies where they 439 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,400 tell you the plot of the film every 20 minutes because they're 440 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,200 worried that you're on your phone while watching it, welcome 441 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,000 to the streaming hell. Introduced to introduced to us 442 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,800 by Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. I guess in the RIP, a movie that 443 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,840 if they made in 2005, they would have called SWAT, but it would 444 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,000 have had a little bit of heart at least. 445 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,520 Have you seen that movie SWAT OK with Colin Farrell? 446 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,560 It was. It was pretty soulless. 447 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,960 And I love Matt Damon and I love Ben Affleck and it was pretty 448 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,160 soulless. It was very disappointing. 449 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,000 You know, what's weird, though, is, you know, I feel like when 450 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,600 we were growing up, you know, we had a lot of like, TNT movies, 451 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:53,880 right? And it wasn't like a streaming 452 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,120 situation, but it did feel almost like, yes, they had a 453 00:22:57,120 --> 00:23:00,120 theater release, but it was essentially like a straight to 454 00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:01,960 TNT. We usually use Tony Scott as the 455 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,080 example Man on Fire. Something like that. 456 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:09,520 But it's so weird that like, why can't we just do those again and 457 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,760 like, and now behind, I mean, they don't have to have the same 458 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:16,280 politics as like the 2000s movies, But but in terms of the 459 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,400 the style and like the quality of of the movies that it's like 460 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,880 it kind of knows what it is, but it's not like, you know, spoon 461 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,080 feeding the audience, it's plot. I mean, they literally had Tiana 462 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,560 Taylor and Stephen Young delivering lines that felt like 463 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,200 they're written by ChatGPT. I was like, I can't believe that 464 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,440 this is happening. I'm glad everybody got paid, but 465 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:40,280 maybe not I. Don't know Tiana Taylor, we're 466 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,560 in the movie. Yeah, they both tried their best 467 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,240 with what they were getting. Yeah, and then I watched The 468 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,520 Running Man with Glenn Powell. Oh yeah, how was that? 469 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,800 Entertaining mess. Michael Cera. 470 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,560 Is I came downstairs. A lot of fun. 471 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,640 Downstairs is like Michael Cera's in this movie. 472 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,040 Yes, I kind of wish they just. I mean, I like Glenn Powell in 473 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,400 the movie, but I wish it was someone different. 474 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,800 I think it would have been cool to see Edgar Wright, who I like, 475 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,760 do something similar and do something that's a little bit 476 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,360 tonally ambitious like this movie, that it just falls flat 477 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:17,120 if they cast somebody that was a little bit more emotive and gave 478 00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:18,480 us the movie a little bit more stakes. 479 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,920 Cause a lot of Glenn Powell's acting emotionally feels just a 480 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,480 bit stunted for me. If somebody like Dev Patel was 481 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,120 starring in the Running Man, I would have been like, let's 482 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:28,480 fucking go. So I think if I honestly think 483 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,800 it was a little bit miscast, but yeah, that's about it. 484 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,360 We've been watching The Pit and that's amazing, obviously. 485 00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:38,200 So check out the pin on HBO. Yeah, I think we can get into. 486 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,520 Send help though. Yeah well we re watched season 1 487 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,240 and like I was surprised how much we had just watched it so 488 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,720 recently and it really hit again. 489 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,480 We, I mean, we cried every episode or at least I was 490 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,800 stopping on my side of the couch. 491 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,360 I, I actually don't ever look at you after I'm like during while 492 00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:56,000 I'm crying. I just assume you're not crying, 493 00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:59,000 but I cry in like every episode of the pit. 494 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,600 OK, send help. Spoiler alert. 495 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,240 So this movie rules. When it does rule, it rules 496 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,200 because of its two actors. So let's start there. 497 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,400 Let's start with Rachel McAdams and Dylan O'Brien. 498 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:19,320 Rachel McAdams, at 47 years old in this movie, is asked to run 499 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,880 around basically half naked on a beach with a basically half 500 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,800 naked Dylan O'Brien who are increasingly throughout the 501 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,640 movie, both confusingly and disorientingly trying to kill 502 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,480 each other and also possibly love each other. 503 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,800 And they both fully commit. And there's a lot more plot, 504 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,160 like there's a build up with a whole ROM or not. 505 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,880 It's not a ROM com, but it feels like it's playing with genre in 506 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,520 that way where it's a workplace political drama at the beginning 507 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:51,080 of the movie, and but then it turns into this like disaster 508 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,520 beach horror movie. But McAdams in particular in 509 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,200 this film, I was sort of floored by because I didn't like, I know 510 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,320 that she is Regina George. I know she can play in a 511 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:06,600 heightened genre sandbox. I know she can kind of ground an 512 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,640 absurd movie like Game Night, but still be silly enough and 513 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,520 kind of like OG enough or oh golly enough where it kind of 514 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,080 feels like she can play in multiple worlds at once. 515 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,080 But she holds this movie together to the point where I am 516 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,120 excited to rewatch it because I think it might be more 517 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,560 interesting on rewatch because she is not doing the same 518 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,720 cartoonish thing that Dylan O'Brien is doing, which in his 519 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,400 own right. I like what Orion is up to in 520 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,760 this, but I was kind of shocked walking out of it being like 521 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,640 while McAdams is being underutilized. 522 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,840 I mean, so is Dylan O'Brien in by Hollywood at large right now, 523 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,240 but especially McAdams at her age? 524 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,480 To be doing something like this, almost 50 years old and playing 525 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,320 somebody who's like 15 years younger and playing in all these 526 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,080 different tones, I was just surprised. 527 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,520 You know, I I didn't think about it like that in terms of she's 528 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,560 always asked to to have this endearing quality. 529 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:01,520 Who's she's sweet, she's funny. She is someone who feels like a 530 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,760 good hang and you want to like keep spending time with on 531 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,640 screen. But you're right. 532 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,720 I feel like this movie is maybe the most similar to a Regina 533 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:14,200 George where she's just she's just on one like her character. 534 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,640 And you're waiting for her to get hit by a bus. 535 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,800 Yeah, like you don't really know where you are. 536 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:27,800 She feels like, you know, she is possibly like being and and I 537 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,280 want to be careful too, because like the movie itself, I didn't 538 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,680 love like, so how I'm talking about it is I guess in the logic 539 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,120 of the movie of her like coming off as like manipulative or 540 00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:42,000 whatever, right. But she's able to perform that 541 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,680 so well where it feels like it's making fun of like a trope 542 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,400 instead of completely falling into like a sexist trope or 543 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,480 something. But anyway, she yeah, she is 544 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,880 able to to create fear, I think in Dylan O'Brien. 545 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,840 And that is something that is so Regina George asked that that I 546 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,080 don't think I've seen in a really long time from her 547 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,600 performances. So that that's so true. 548 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,920 I didn't think about it that way, but yeah, she's awesome. 549 00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:12,960 She is kind of like owning the scenes. 550 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:20,160 And I love Dylan O'Brien, just kind of like making noises off 551 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,160 and on screen. A lot of reaction shots, yeah, 552 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:29,680 off screen. Or yeah, IA lot of improv I'm 553 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,040 assuming from Dylan O'Brien here, but you feel like feels. 554 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,520 Like he's playing himself sometimes when he's making those 555 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:36,960 screaming noises, even though he's playing somebody. 556 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,600 He's very much not like him in his interviews in this movie as 557 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,280 a character, but those noises feel very specific to him and 558 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,760 his real life. Exactly. 559 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,360 Yeah. But you really feel like he is 560 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,480 in the palm of her hand and she knows it. 561 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,880 Yes. And and she just like is so, so 562 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,760 great. Yeah, I mean, with McAdams, I've 563 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,200 been saying this a lot on TikTok. 564 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,440 By the way, we're back on TikTok. 565 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,400 Follow us in the description of this episode. 566 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,440 But I think McAdams is her generations. 567 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,200 Meg Ryan mixed with Julia Roberts, right? 568 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,800 And she's one of the most genuinely reliable genre actors 569 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,280 we have. I'd like to explore more about 570 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,200 like her top 10 performances. I did a TikTok on that already. 571 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,920 But like with you. It was so fun. 572 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,000 At the end of this episode, or maybe in about time later on our 573 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,000 Patreon. We'll figure it out probably 574 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,320 yeah, we'll figure it out. It depends. 575 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,200 I I feel like it's probably best to do it on about time, but if 576 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,040 we have. Time at the end today. 577 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,320 Yeah, maybe we could just like do it really quick at the end 578 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,920 today and then we'll deep dive it a little bit more. 579 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,960 We'll debate it on the Patreon. OK, Dylan O'Brien, I feel like 580 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,320 you've recently become a Dylan O'Brien truther. 581 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,160 Long term, long time listeners know that I have, since the 582 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,840 start of this podcast, have felt a kinship with Dylan O'Brien. 583 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,880 I've been watching him since, obviously the Maze Runner days, 584 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:59,040 but even before that on his television series Teen Wolf. 585 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,440 Is that what it is? Yeah, Teen Wolf. 586 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,040 I definitely saw some of that. But I started seeing him a lot 587 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,520 in the 20 tens in his interviews and how funny he was. 588 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:12,960 And just his his like the young millennial masculinity where 589 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,480 you're just constantly just matching the energy of other 590 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:21,040 people as to not be threatening. And the sort of de escalation of 591 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,320 his personality is something that I really relate to. 592 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,280 And so to see him blow up now in his mid 30s in this kind of 593 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,520 resurgence of him post Maze Runner is fascinating to me 594 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,360 because I feel like he's always been who he is right now. 595 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,840 But it's interesting to see now with Twin List, which we haven't 596 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,360 seen yet, but I'm really excited too. 597 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,800 And now this movie and now rumors that he might be starring 598 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,560 in the new X-Men film for Marvel, a Cyclops. 599 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,040 There's a lot of rumors with that. 600 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,040 The fact that he's like going to have another renaissance is just 601 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,120 kind of it's kind of shocking to me. 602 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,480 It's amazing. But it's a little bit surprising 603 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,440 because he's he's moving into like he looks like 35 year old 604 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,280 Dylan O'Brien, but you had him when he was hot in 27, like in 605 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,400 not OK or movies like. That yeah, when he was in five 606 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,000 years ago, what what people were like, I guess reserving for a 607 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,600 younger Glenn Powell in that like the specific era. 608 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,520 Yeah, that's. I mean that's really 609 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,040 interesting. I yeah, hadn't really seen his 610 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,120 like interviews before. I mean, you show me like the 611 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,080 funny ones and things of him dancing, but I think you're 612 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,560 right. He like captures the the kind of 613 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:31,600 like Zelenio, like younger millennial spirit of, of 614 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,480 basically like not growing up with cameras on you like all his 615 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,080 dancing edits on TikTok. You know, like, feel of like a, 616 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,520 a generation that grew up with cell phones but wasn't like 617 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,640 afraid they were going to be filmed at every moment and put 618 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,440 on TikTok. And so there's something that 619 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,240 feels free about him that I absolutely love. 620 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,080 He's OK to be a little bit silly. 621 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,240 Silly, Yeah. And yeah, I am in love with him. 622 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:02,360 So he's one of the the very few men that. 623 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,280 He would say that about. That I would say that about that 624 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:10,920 I would want to spend time with and honestly like that I that I 625 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,360 would maybe date or something like. 626 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,320 One of the. Very few men in the world. 627 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,360 Yeah, OK. Hopefully. 628 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,440 I mean, do you not feel the way? No, no, I'm I'm definitely on 629 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,440 the like I am team Dylan O'Brien, right? 630 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,840 I, I think it's not an accident that the 2 white boys of the 631 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,160 Century and Logan Lehrman and Dylan O'Brien are in movies over 632 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,640 the past year that are both about these two men being tied 633 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:42,440 up by two beautiful women. And in the movie Ohai now in 634 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,280 sent help because people just have such a strong connection to 635 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,000 the kind of the kindness of these two guys in their 636 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,440 personalities and I guess in our parasocial relationships to 637 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,480 them. Again, that non threatening 638 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,360 masculine vibe. I guess they're best friends too 639 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,880 in real life, which is cool. But you know, I I agree with 640 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,480 you. I think the the Dylan O'Brien 641 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,840 Internet personality is very strong. 642 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,000 And if you're aware of the algorithms Kelsey's talking 643 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,600 about, then then you probably love Dylan O'Brien too. 644 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,920 What I was surprised about in this movie is that he has one of 645 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,400 the most like distinctively evil movie movie characters that I 646 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,160 can remember in a long time. He's so evil in this film, like 647 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,080 cartoonishly evil and he knows it. 648 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,120 He like explains his whole sad white boy sob story at one 649 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,000 point. He's like, I'm accepting it. 650 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,760 My Neppo baby status. Right. 651 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,920 And I think it's funny that don't O'Brien's doing this to 652 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,520 play against type because he's he's like turning into like a 653 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,520 Looney tune short sometimes in this movie. 654 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,440 Like there's there's a moment in this film where he's running 655 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,080 away with a raft that he had secretly built off camera for 656 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,120 the whole movie. And he's like screaming, 657 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,480 laughing, laughing. Does not work at you. 658 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,560 Lola comes out of absolutely nowhere in the movie, but it's 659 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,800 so funny because it is Dylan O'Brien. 660 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,880 Like making a run for it, like out of left field poisoning her. 661 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,480 Yeah. It's just I, I'm glad he's 662 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,160 getting to do this stuff like he was in Saturday night a few like 663 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,840 a year or two ago, like he's playing into more comedic roles 664 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,960 now. He's been on in interviews. 665 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,719 Rachel McAdams being like my favorite movie is like what are 666 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,480 the hot chicks? Hot chick. 667 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,040 Yeah, Hot Chick. And then also Wedding Crashers. 668 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,960 Like, he grew up with 2000 studio comedies and, you know, 669 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,840 obviously those are problematic movies, but like, if you did 670 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,480 grow up with those, there's something funny to you probably 671 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,679 about stunted adults, especially like man children. 672 00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:37,960 That was a huge yeah like, theme of comedy, right, Growing up 673 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,880 like stepbrothers. Yeah, like the Ron Burgundy 674 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,920 like. But it feels like he's entering 675 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,840 an era where he could reclaim some like a mold like that in a 676 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,719 non problematic way. He could certainly. 677 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,880 I mean there could be like an updated Ron Burgundy character. 678 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,120 Which I I think he could do. Yeah, I think he could do. 679 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,680 He talked about recently how his favorite actor is Jim Carrey, 680 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,960 and that really gave me an insight into like the way he 681 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,280 sees his performances, which is really. 682 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,000 Yeah, it's really interesting. You know, we, we should say he 683 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,040 was in Saturday night, but we looked it up. 684 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,080 He has never hosted Saturday Night Live. 685 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,080 He'd be so good. Yeah. 686 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,680 Wow. Yeah, I can't believe it. 687 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,560 Yeah, not that, you know, 30 year old white men in Hollywood 688 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,920 need more, you know, movie roles or anything like that. 689 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,320 But some of the clout that Timmy's getting I do think has 690 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,640 been like somehow transferred like Space Jam style from actors 691 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,440 like the Dylan O'Brien mold over the years, which is interesting. 692 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,760 Like Pattinson's probably in that in that space too. 693 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,040 Well, I guess maybe the reason I feel so passionately about Dylan 694 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,680 O'Brien is that there are a lot of other men who are like, in 695 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,520 that space that are get a lot more attention, like a Jacob 696 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,280 Allordy, like a Austin Butler, like Glenn Powell that I have 697 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,960 been on, you know, on the podcast, on the record of being 698 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,280 like, stop trying to make this happen. 699 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,720 Stop trying to make the Brad Pitt, you know, a vacation and 700 00:35:56,720 --> 00:36:01,880 George Clooney, you know, stardom power happen again with 701 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,840 people who are fine like whatever. 702 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,360 And, you know, and I just, I just enjoy the, the Dylan 703 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,920 O'Brien experience. I I honestly just think it's 704 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,160 height like guys, just, you know, except a 510 silly queen 705 00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:17,840 in Dylan O'Brien, he did. He doesn't need to be 6 two and 706 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:18,840 jacked. You know what I mean? 707 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,120 I think that's a big part of it. But if he was a little bit 708 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,760 bigger, I mean, I guess Shalom is as The only exception there. 709 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,880 But I think O'Brien is just like, he is a little bit of like 710 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,680 that Tom, He's a bigger guy than Tom Cruise, but he's a little 711 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,720 bit of that Tom Cruise young electricity, if that makes 712 00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:35,000 sense. Like it feels like he's popping 713 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,840 out of your screen sometimes. And only Tom Cruise and Denzel 714 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,360 can really do stuff like that. And I feel like O'Brien has 715 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,720 moments of that kind of scattered throughout his career. 716 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:45,600 Our our bias is coming through 'cause I'm saying some big 717 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:46,800 names. Yeah, I mean, he's definitely, I 718 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,480 was going to say. Yeah, he's not those actors. 719 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,000 He's not those actors. He is not those actors, but 720 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,920 there is, but in his interviews is those actors. 721 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,480 Yeah, well, in this, no. OK, all right, let's talk. 722 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,320 Let's talk more about the movie. OK, So are we. 723 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,720 Going to start at the top. Yeah, let's start at the top. 724 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:07,040 So Send Help starts in a place that is more familiar plot wise. 725 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,440 It's like a corporate satire comedy about office politics and 726 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,160 nepotism. I didn't know what I was walking 727 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,280 into with this. We saw again, like we saw an 728 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,000 early screening. I think I'd only seen one 729 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,640 trailer and it played like a gore horror fest from Sam Raimi, 730 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,240 so I don't know if it's going to like drag me to Hell. 731 00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:26,920 I didn't know if it was going to be like the scariest moments of 732 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,720 like a Spider Man movie. I don't know if it's going to be 733 00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:30,240 Evil Dead. I wasn't quite sure what to 734 00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:32,880 expect but I was surprised to see like the kind of office 735 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,240 party vibe. Yeah, I certainly, from the 736 00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:38,720 trailer alone thought we were going to have them on an island 737 00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:41,240 for most of this. Yeah, trying to like hunt each 738 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:43,840 other essentially. Which is the last two acts of 739 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,480 the film? The first, the first act is just 740 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,240 them in an office or at home with Linda. 741 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,000 Linda Little, played by Rachel McAdams, great name for the 742 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,120 screenplay, is introduced as a kind of strategist for a 743 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,920 financial firm. I guess that's where her job is. 744 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,880 Yeah, unclear. But she is an accountant, sort 745 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,960 of, sort of, well, I think she says I'm a, I'm a strategist. 746 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,160 Meaning OK, so meaning she has like the the. 747 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,680 He keeps calling her an accountant. 748 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,400 And she's. Like fuck off, yeah. 749 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,880 So she she is basically, yeah, like mapping out what this 750 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,920 company is going to do major player. 751 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,400 She's trying to be an executive. Yeah, so basically the the whole 752 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,880 thing is that Dylan O'Brien's father, who I don't think we 753 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,040 really meet, passed away. Question mark. 754 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,840 Yeah, OK Died. And then he gives the the job 755 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,680 over to Dylan O'Brien and he's got a. 756 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,520 Great introduction scene. Yeah, which we'll talk about in 757 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,440 a second, But I think we like open on it ultimately with her 758 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:52,960 and she is giving like a report right to this guy who is his 759 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,640 like slicked back hair blonde. Like an American. 760 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,600 Psycho yeah exactly yeah goes in you know The funny thing of like 761 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,280 taking off the the post it note that says she did the work 762 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,880 taking credit for her her hard strategizing. 763 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:12,080 But you know, the, the, really the part of this, this section 764 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,680 of the movie that sticks with me is like, I didn't love the the 765 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,480 weird kind of like trying to make Rachel McAdams ugly and 766 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,680 who's a part of the character. I was like, it just felt weird. 767 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,280 Like the the movie again, like felt like it was playing into a 768 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:33,680 lot of like strange tropes about women and this, I don't know, it 769 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,080 just like didn't it felt awkward. 770 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:41,480 The the thing that did stick with me was the tuna, tuna fish 771 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:46,080 sandwich that was shoved into not a drawer, OK, was shoved 772 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:51,320 into like the filing section of a cubicle to smash it in there 773 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,640 forever. And that has that has stuck with 774 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:54,320 me. Yeah. 775 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,600 It's stuck with me more than Rachel McAdams hair being pulled 776 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,520 off her head or Dylan O'Brien like trap of being bitten into 777 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,000 or. Or Dylan O'Brien pushing his 778 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,880 finger into her eyeball. Her, Yeah, her whole eye being 779 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,360 closed in. 15 minutes later, her eye is healed. 780 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:10,880 Yeah. But anyway, that yeah. 781 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,360 To the campiness. Of this movie image, really, 782 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,320 you're right, sticks with me. The other thing though, like 783 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,880 that does it was funny besides all that, 'cause I was like, 784 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,120 like, OK, what is this movie going to be? 785 00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:27,440 The humor is like, fine, but now it feels a little strange. 786 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,800 Like this, this woman alone. Like watching Survivor. 787 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,720 I was like, that seems like a great fucking night, OK, Like my 788 00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:35,600 bird. The wine with. 789 00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:41,200 The bird watching survivor. But anyway, when she gets the 790 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,760 tuna fish that was on the side of her mouth and it's on Dylan 791 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,840 O'Brien's hand, that is a true nightmare for me. 792 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:49,920 Oh, for you. Really. 793 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,760 Yeah. OK, let's talk about him then 794 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,240 when he was introduced. OK. 795 00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:55,680 Because I get why that's a nightmare for you. 796 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,040 But the whole thing is her boss promises her a promotion. 797 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,720 As he said, he dies. His son Bradley, played by 798 00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:06,680 O'Brien, takes over full evil Jerry Maguire when he walks in. 799 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,560 More evil Kendall Roy energy he's giving. 800 00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:14,400 I thought First off, when the camera gets closer and closer to 801 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,280 Dylan O'Brien and like, he looks good. 802 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,400 Like he like, like he looks thin. 803 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,880 And the camera kept going, going closer and closer to his face. 804 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,120 I was like, did they digitally remove the bags from his eyes? 805 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,800 Like, why does he look five years younger? 806 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,440 Like, I know Dylan O'Brien does not look like this. 807 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,920 When we got to the island, he looked more like he looks now. 808 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,200 But I was like, what? Did you see that too? 809 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,040 Like there was like almost like a digital effect over here. 810 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,320 Oh, I didn't realize. Maybe I just. 811 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,200 I mean, you spend a lot of time watching him, so yeah. 812 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:43,520 I OK, yeah, I do spend a lot of time watching Dylan O'Brien, but 813 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,760 yeah, he just looked beautiful. And you immediately were 814 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,680 clocking. OK Are we seeing this from 815 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,760 Linda's POV? And so there's a little bit of 816 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,960 an unreliable narrator thing going on where I'm like, I 817 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,400 wonder if they're going to try to make Linda fall in love with 818 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,160 Bradley throughout the movie immediately as soon as we see 819 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,120 him because the way they're shooting him is like, the camera 820 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,480 is in love with Dylan O'Brien. Yeah, And we learned that his 821 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:08,640 character is like, sexist, insecure, while she is like, 822 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,960 deeply competent and prepared. She earned her position, whereas 823 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,800 he got this job through his father. 824 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,640 And he's like, basically Bradley's the stunted little man 825 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,320 who got dragged to the top by his dad. 826 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,760 He's going to bring his boys along from his fraternities in 827 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,760 college and give them the promotions for executives over 828 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:29,920 Linda. And Yeah, I guess with with 829 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,000 Linda before we go on the plane, before he kind of like tricks 830 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,160 her to come on or not tricks her, but is trying to convince 831 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,560 her to not leave. Right. 832 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,800 There's that like section that has to be taken care of and and 833 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,720 he kind of like in that scene where she comes in, which I 834 00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:45,920 actually thought was a pretty good scene and saved the first 835 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,000 part of the movie when she kind of barges into his. 836 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,040 I was very worried. Yeah, I was like, oh, no. 837 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,800 But I think that scene kind of saved it for me when they are 838 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,360 first talking and she's like, here's what I like. 839 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,560 Deserve whatever he says. You know, you can prove yourself 840 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,240 itself and maybe I'll give you a shot. 841 00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:02,880 You can. I want you on this like plane. 842 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,760 But really, we know he's like manipulating her to get this 843 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:11,400 difficult piece of this report done so that can save his ass. 844 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,200 And then he's going to ship her off somewhere else. 845 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:18,880 So that way the tuna sandwich isn't the smell, isn't in the 846 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,040 office. But I, yeah, I I really like 847 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,280 that scene when he's like golfing, whatever. 848 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,840 And I like that we, you know, just skip ahead to plane crash. 849 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,560 Like we, we just get into it. I I will say, just to give 850 00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:31,960 McAdams for credit here, even though they do try to like 851 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,320 thinner hair make and like give her, you know, bags on bags on 852 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,560 her eyes or give her more wrinkles or whatever and, and 853 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,640 kind of make her look a little frail. 854 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,760 She's doing a good job of it reminds me of the performance 855 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,800 from Michelle Pfeiffer and Batman Returns. 856 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,240 It's actually this movie reminds me a lot of a Tim Burton like 857 00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:53,440 Batman Returns kind of energy where you have a stunted man 858 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,560 Batman or Bradley in this case, and you have a Michelle Pfeiffer 859 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:02,120 as Selena Kyle, who is this like underutilized woman in the 860 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,600 workplace who the sexual politics of that workplace seem 861 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,480 a little complicated and also is then pushed out of a window by 862 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,440 her boss and Batman Returns. And so there is a sort, I, I 863 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,160 feel like there is a there's a connection there. 864 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,840 I I saw a lot of misery, but also maybe just some Stephen 865 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,240 King influences. And so she's doing a good job of 866 00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:22,240 like balancing a lot of performances that of the genre 867 00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:24,040 that I think audiences are familiar with. 868 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,160 So even though they they do some stuff with her looks, I was like 869 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,840 happy with what she was up to in the first act. 870 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,600 But the movie really starts to take off when the airplane 871 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,200 sequence happens. How did you feel about this 872 00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:36,800 airplane sequence? It's how I feel about a lot of 873 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,560 Sam Raimi films, Like, like practical and digital effects 874 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,720 are sometimes volatile and inconsistent. 875 00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:46,320 And so it creates this, what some people might identify as, 876 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,280 like bad effects. For me, it creates this like, 877 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:53,840 intentional, disorienting, unsettling vibe and creates 878 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,440 this, like, kind of chaotic energy. 879 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,800 And so with the plane and the guy with the forks and the fork 880 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,600 going into his, oh, yeah. Was it his eye or his nose? 881 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,160 I forget how she stabs him to get him off, get him off her. 882 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,640 I, oh, I forget where he's getting sucked out of this train 883 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,840 and he's like, his head is hitting the window and it's 884 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,840 played a comedic effect and our theater was laughing. 885 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,520 The best part of it, Like, yeah. I liked all that. 886 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,240 Number one, so OK, so I guess the, the plain scene, you're 887 00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:20,600 right. Like I agree, although I, I 888 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,160 think you're more attuned to like Sam Raimi's style. 889 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,480 But yeah, like I, I felt like the special effects were kind of 890 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,000 shitty, but I was like, you know what? 891 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,680 It's fine. Like let's embrace what this 892 00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:36,680 movie is, but I I think also think like the IT added to the 893 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:41,400 camp of it where him getting, you know, held up by his tie and 894 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,680 then like hit against the window and him like crawling like onto 895 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,080 her being like give me your seat. 896 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,920 Like the the kind of cartoonish entitlement of like a character 897 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,640 like that was was funny. But I will say that, you know, 898 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,400 I, I wasn't sure like where I stood in terms of the 899 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,040 characters. I felt like it was kind of 900 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,640 strange just entering into this world. 901 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:07,720 But the minute they threw on Rachel McAdams survival audition 902 00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:11,200 I was on her side. I was like fuck them. 903 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,640 I was like how dare they. I agree she should be on 904 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,120 survivor #1 she's done all the work she has all her her 905 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,760 highlighted tabbed books on the shelf watching Survivor putting 906 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,080 the hours in every night. But also I just I was like oh I 907 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,760 hate them for that. Even though it was like 908 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,960 obviously cheesy, like Dylan O'Brien literally looking back 909 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,400 going ha ha ha ha like looking making icon with her. 910 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,240 He does such a good fucking shit, he'll laugh. 911 00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:44,360 Yeah, so. You can tell he's just been in 912 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,320 the room with the most annoying rich people. 913 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,440 He's just been copying the most annoying rich people. 914 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,400 He's been waiting for this role. You know, this role reminded me 915 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:53,560 of because of what you're saying. 916 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,880 He like does the self aware rich thing where he's like making fun 917 00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:01,040 of rich people or the the wealthy laugh kind of he reminds 918 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,360 me of like a Roman Roy in succession and you like said 919 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,360 more so Kendall, but I I felt like it was a Roman Roy of like 920 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,440 him being like haha. I was thinking of like Mike 921 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,880 Myers, like Austin Powers. I was thinking of like Nicolas 922 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:19,440 Cage, his most absurd or yeah, I don't know, just like some guy, 923 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,120 some actors who can be like electric but seem to have lost 924 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,480 their shit in movies before, like an Alec Baldwin, you know 925 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:26,600 what I mean? Like, yeah. 926 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,240 Anyways, just a very strange energy. 927 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,080 He's he's coming out with. Yeah, with the survivor thing. 928 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,440 I think that pissed me off. And I was like, I'm on Linda 929 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,680 side until she starts really losing it halfway through the 930 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,600 movie and I'm like, OK, I'm on no one's side here. 931 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,200 And this has become more fun that it's not formulaic and 932 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,320 you're like this this like oppressed, you know, invisible 933 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,640 class of woman in the workplace is like coming back to kill her, 934 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,320 her misogynistic boss. I was like, OK, I've seen this 935 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:52,440 before. I'm still going to have fun with 936 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,120 it because it's Rachel McAdams and Dylan O'Brien. 937 00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,680 But then you're almost there's a point in this movie. 938 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,080 I'm not sure where it happened. So I'll be curious to break down 939 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,320 the plot with you because I wanted like spot where it 940 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,360 happens, where you sort of start going on Dylan O'Brien's 941 00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:07,480 character side where you're like, OK, this has gone too far. 942 00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:11,680 And I think it's as soon as we learn that she kills the Beyoncé 943 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,040 and we're like, now I'm weirdly siding with Bradley. 944 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,800 I don't think she kills him. That's you. 945 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,800 Don't think she kills the wife. Oh. 946 00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,400 The fiance. Oh, her husband, I was saying 947 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:24,320 you. Think she left him on the 948 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,800 island? What? 949 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,920 No. No, no, sorry. 950 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,800 I thought you were talking about the fire scene when she says 951 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:35,040 like, I gave my husband who abused me like the keys. 952 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,320 Oh, no, OK. I was like, I don't know. 953 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,040 I don't know if she killed him because that's that's basically 954 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,480 what the movie. And then like Dylan O'Brien 955 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:46,000 implies that he thinks like, Oh my God, she's a murderer. 956 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,080 So then it it like flips us to be like, should we be suspicious 957 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,400 of her? But then you're like still not 958 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:53,920 because you're, you know, still on her side. 959 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,920 But yes, certainly the fiance thing is where you're like, oh, 960 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,000 like there, there is that moment where she's like, I need to stay 961 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,600 here a little bit longer when she sees the first boat right in 962 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:09,120 that like alcove or whatever that part is called of an 963 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,720 island. But she is, she sees the boat 964 00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:13,720 and she's like, I need to stay here a little bit longer. 965 00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:15,880 And you know what, I get it. You want to go back to 966 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,120 capitalism. So I was. 967 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,920 Going to ask you that is that is this movie playing with the idea 968 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,640 that America's obsession with Survivor is that Survivor has 969 00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,000 become a symbol of like capitalist anxiety in the 21st 970 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,960 century, where Americans have a fantasy of wanting so badly to 971 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,400 get out of their nine to five that they would rather be on a 972 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,680 deserted island with their worst enemy than go back to their desk 973 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,240 job? Is that the pieces of the film? 974 00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:40,200 I think. So I think so. 975 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:41,840 That's a. Great, That's a great pitch. 976 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,040 It's an interesting screenplay. But then it gets a little bit 977 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,280 sidetracked. Yeah, it does. 978 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,600 It's killing the fiance where I'm like, whoa. 979 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,400 I do think I did not know she didn't need that. 980 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,120 I think it would have been actually more interesting if 981 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,920 they would have kept her like quote UN quote, morally pure, 982 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,040 and they could have just still played with that, that shifting 983 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,320 of allegiances with the audience, like who they 984 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,440 connected with most especially after that drunk sequence. 985 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:08,360 Yeah, also then it could be like she is then the whole that that 986 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,560 kind of like message of of the movie that's under lying that we 987 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,680 were just talking about. She could be like, I'm not going 988 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:14,440 back. Yeah, yeah. 989 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,800 You know, like that would be more interesting and funny. 990 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,480 Neither are you. Yeah, in an exaggerated way 991 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,360 where he doesn't have to be like, you know, I am hunting my 992 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:29,440 boss who sucks. Yeah, it could just be like, I 993 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,720 am not participating in this system anymore and you're a part 994 00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:34,400 of it, you know? There's a moment in the movie 995 00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,120 going back to her looks and the way they play with Rachel 996 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,560 McAdams and her just like her organic beauty because she still 997 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,040 looks like Rachel McAdams as opposed to a lot of you know. 998 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,560 I mean, did we see that waterfall scene? 999 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:45,680 OK. That's what I mean is the 1000 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,360 waterfall scene is where Rick McAdams looks at her own 1001 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,840 reflection and she falls in love with herself again. 1002 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,560 And then the camera pans up to her and she looks completely 1003 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,280 different than she's looked for the rest of the movie. 1004 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,400 And she looks like the Rachel McAdams that you're sort of 1005 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,400 familiar with over the last 25 years. 1006 00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:03,320 And it's supposed to play as like, this is like a radiant 1007 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,120 looking new Linda. But it's also campy because 1008 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:07,560 that's not how she's looked at all. 1009 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,560 But I just, yeah, I think that that's all the movie needed to 1010 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,240 do. But it does hard pivot, 1011 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,120 obviously, into the nonsense, which is, you know, it's same 1012 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:16,280 Remy. So he still makes it fun. 1013 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:23,760 OK, so when it comes to the the story, as the plane crashes and 1014 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,440 Bradley washes up on a desert, she discovers him, his legs all 1015 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,960 fucked up. And it goes from corporate 1016 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,880 satire to the survival horror comedy that's absurd. 1017 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,240 And it gets a little bit more Looney Tunes with the aesthetic 1018 00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:40,640 as she fights a bore and there's buckets of blood everywhere. 1019 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,600 I was, I was. There were so many times in this 1020 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,000 movie. I feel like I was getting 1021 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,520 whiplash in this movie of like I didn't go in with like high 1022 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,440 expectations or anything, but I was like OK, is this movie good? 1023 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,160 OK, I'm back in this movie. Weird. 1024 00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:58,320 Like why is she fighting a bore back in I? 1025 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,480 Accepted it. I accepted it for what it was. 1026 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,120 I think this might rub people the wrong way who loved the 1027 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:04,400 movie. I think this might be the best 1028 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,720 three star movie I've seen in a long time to use letterbox lingo 1029 00:52:07,720 --> 00:52:09,400 here. I feel that way too. 1030 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,640 And I just mean that in a way that where it's like really fun, 1031 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,640 entertaining. I'm glad that we all get to 1032 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,720 appreciate this in theaters. My only problem is the reason we 1033 00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:20,280 don't get more of these is because apparently the budget 1034 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,080 tells me that this movie cost $40 million and there's no 1035 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,600 fucking right that this movie should cost $40 million. 1036 00:52:25,720 --> 00:52:27,720 And it might be a reason why we don't get these kind of movies 1037 00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:29,680 anymore. Like I understand inflation, but 1038 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,280 that's insane. Like there's no way that this 1039 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,720 looking at this movie that it should. 1040 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,280 The island is fake. Like we don't we're they're not 1041 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,480 on, you know what I mean? They're on location. 1042 00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:41,000 So I, I don't understand how that happens. 1043 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,800 And I'm not saying save the studios money. 1044 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,880 I'm just saying if we want more of these, they got to cost like 1045 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,160 15 to 20 a pop in order to make a profit. 1046 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,760 Because I'm not sure this is going to be a $40 million 1047 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,600 success, but maybe hopefully. Should we just hit the like 1048 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:54,320 Major? Scene. 1049 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,840 Yeah, I'm sorry. So, so basically right, she she 1050 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,880 finds him leg is bloody. The the leg looks good. 1051 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:05,160 I'll say the bloody leg looks good and he's passed out, drags 1052 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,760 him up right, builds a little like shelter over him. 1053 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,560 I love that she's like, let's get started. 1054 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,960 You know what I mean? She she gets the leaf. 1055 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,720 We see her making all these like, which honestly, I will use 1056 00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:20,360 these things if I'm ever in this situation, but the like puts 1057 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,280 coconuts, you know, hollowed out, digs them in this. 1058 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,080 Situation. Yes, I'm going to use some of 1059 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,160 her tactics and, you know, take some leaves to she knows it's 1060 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,920 going to rain soon to like gather the the drinking water, 1061 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,880 create shade and and then Dylan O'Brien wakes up and he's doing 1062 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,240 his like boss shit, right. He like, still thinks we're in 1063 00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:44,160 the office and. Well, where does the survivalism 1064 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,800 begin? And then the shenanigans start. 1065 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,520 Or like, when does the survivalism end and the 1066 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:50,880 shenanigans start? Does that make sense? 1067 00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,880 Like, when does she discover? Like, when did she stop getting 1068 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:55,880 water from those coconuts? So she starts getting water 1069 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,920 from, you know, whatever rich water that rich people have. 1070 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,840 Oh, I see. Does that make sense? 1071 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:01,920 Like when she comes with a fish? Yeah. 1072 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,600 When did she first? I was like, how did she kill 1073 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,120 that fish? Like that's pretty impressive. 1074 00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:08,200 Say like, I'm going to go explore because she oh, you're 1075 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,040 right, she kills the boar. Right, so she does do that. 1076 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,280 She does do that when is seeing. That yeah, 'cause I was like, 1077 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,800 you know what? Sorry, Linda, we're doubting 1078 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:16,440 you. Sorry, Linda. 1079 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,680 I apologize but. Also, I was like for a second I 1080 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,360 was like, wait, did she get that meat from the house? 1081 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:25,600 But no, we saw her kill a boar. So, OK, so I probably after that 1082 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,200 because like once we get once we start getting introduced to like 1083 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,280 the sushi spreads, they're like, how is she doing this? 1084 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,000 I guess they tell us at the end, the first time she sees a boat 1085 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:36,600 and she turns around. She doesn't turn around. 1086 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,760 She sees the. Right, Mansion, yes, right. 1087 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,280 Yeah, like we're we're, you know, not included in the 1088 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,120 reality of the the movie at that point. 1089 00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,800 Yeah, 'cause the movie The the mansion is just like a a small 1090 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,160 pivot to the right. All right, sorry. 1091 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:52,960 So yeah, Dylan O'Brien still bossing her around. 1092 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,120 Still bossing her around and she's like, oh, no, no, no, like 1093 00:54:55,120 --> 00:55:01,120 we're not in the office anymore. And he he kind of like doesn't 1094 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:06,000 really understand what is happening in terms of what she 1095 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:10,120 is doing to keep him alive. But there's two things going on 1096 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,000 here, right? One is the, the workplace, like 1097 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,000 hierarchy drama. And two, he's like, shouldn't we 1098 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,560 like be putting out SOS signals? Right. 1099 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,040 So you're sort of on his side, but also he's a piece of shit. 1100 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,040 So you're like, stop talking to Linda like that. 1101 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,480 But also, yeah, Linda, it's weird that we're not doing SOS. 1102 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,440 Why aren't we doing rafts? I think that actually that part 1103 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:35,200 of the movie is like, really what keeps you guessing because 1104 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,200 you're. Yeah, I I think like from the 1105 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,800 Survivor video on, I'm on Linda's side. 1106 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,040 I understand why she doesn't want to go back, even though 1107 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,120 it's a little like questionable for the character of like, OK, 1108 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:46,680 you want to stay on this deserted island. 1109 00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,320 But hey, I get it. Like, you don't want to just go 1110 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,360 back to sit in a cubicle for the rest of your life. 1111 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:52,720 Like, you want a little vacation. 1112 00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,120 Hey, it's paid, I'm assuming on the company's dime, right? 1113 00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:00,840 They earned a plane wreck. And so I like I thought that was 1114 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,920 all funny, but like you start to get skeptical of her character a 1115 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,520 little bit at in terms of just like wanting to stay on the 1116 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:10,240 island. But when it's the the hilarious 1117 00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:13,120 thing though, is when he says that you're like shut up, Dylan 1118 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,560 like SOS thing. She's like taking care of you. 1119 00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,560 She's like making sushi and she's grateful. 1120 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:21,520 Yeah. And so the. 1121 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,160 And it's funny the way they're shooting him too, because it's 1122 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,040 all like him being powerless on the ground, just like at his 1123 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,880 mouth open, like hoping for her to like throw some water in his 1124 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,960 face. And he's doing a great like, 1125 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,280 just like like praying that like this goddess will help him. 1126 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,360 And he's and he also has like this resentment, like every time 1127 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,320 she gives him something, she walks away. 1128 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,240 He does like this side eye at her where he's just like like 1129 00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:47,960 this fucking asshole. Like he perfectly captures that 1130 00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,320 sort of inversion of power that makes him uncomfortable. 1131 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,080 Yeah. And then I, I start to get a 1132 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,640 little worried in the movie when I'm like, she has this whole 1133 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,600 shelter built, which is like amazing starts like weaving hats 1134 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:03,440 and shit to like and a purse. Like she's like making all these 1135 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,560 things and they get in this fight right? 1136 00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,440 Because because of what we're just talking about in terms of 1137 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,480 like her being like, I'm, you know, you're not my boss. 1138 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,360 Like, I think you should like, probably realign yourself with 1139 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,520 what's happening here and like, be grateful. 1140 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:20,000 And he goes out on his own, eats a bug that got a huge reaction 1141 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,760 from our our theater. I didn't like that either. 1142 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,680 Yeah. I mean, it was very fear factor 1143 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,960 to to be in line with the kind of survivor televised things. 1144 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,760 Yeah, but. Linda Brown, great facial 1145 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,840 reactions in this movie, like that moment, the moment where he 1146 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,600 finds that his wife is dead or his fiance and he cries for like 1147 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,200 a 15 seconds too long. And it then becomes kind of 1148 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,040 funny and serious. Like it's a hard thing he's 1149 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,560 being asked to do in this movie. Yeah. 1150 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,600 Which is like limp and then only react to things for like 2 1151 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:49,600 hours. Exactly. 1152 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,880 But then we we end up getting to the the fire sequence where 1153 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,160 she's like, want to get drunk? I like, made toilet wine or 1154 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:59,360 whatever. And they're around the the fire. 1155 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,720 So many tonal shifts in this movie where he's like, yeah, 1156 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,080 like, my parents hated me and I hated them. 1157 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,080 And you're like, I guess I feel bad for you, but not really 1158 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,960 because you're, like, rich and you're going to go back to being 1159 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,680 rich. So yeah, you know, we only have 1160 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,840 so much sympathy. Well, it's more like, it's more 1161 00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,960 like she's like, here's this domestic abuse that I went 1162 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,520 through, right? And then he goes, yeah, he goes, 1163 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,240 yeah, I can totally relate. My mom was mean and my dad 1164 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:28,440 wasn't home and you're like, all right, so. 1165 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,120 But they have good chemistry in that moment. 1166 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,920 So it is a little bit confusing. You're like, are you? 1167 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,520 Yeah, exactly. That's why I like the tone in 1168 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,520 this movie is so strange throughout and. 1169 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,520 I was like, wait, are Dylan O'Brien, Rachel McAdams going to 1170 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,680 have sex in the Yeah, I was. Like, what's happening? 1171 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,080 So then but then also when she says, like, you know, I ended up 1172 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,800 giving my husband the keys. I thought in terms of the movie 1173 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,800 language, even though I wasn't on the page, I thought that they 1174 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,280 were trying to make the audience be like, Oh my God, she killed 1175 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,560 her husband, which is like, not, you know what I mean? 1176 00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:59,440 And then also Dylan O'Brien being like suspicious of her 1177 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,120 when in reality I was like, OK, I'm like still like kind of like 1178 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:10,120 on Linda's side. But yeah, I guess when when we 1179 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:14,400 get the the sequence of her shouldn't kill his fiance at 1180 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,800 this point. But basically Dylan's like, oh, 1181 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,960 there's a huge like rainstorm. It like flushes out their camp, 1182 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,400 right. Well, this is still they're in 1183 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,640 The Cave. So this is where I was like, oh, 1184 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:24,320 a. Romance. 1185 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,200 Is going to happen. So, like, this is a subplot. 1186 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:30,440 The next morning after they get drunk, she wakes up hungover, 1187 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:31,960 right? And they keep alluding to how 1188 00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,520 she has a knife on her side and so that she's trying to keep 1189 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,480 that knife. And so I think you're thinking, 1190 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,160 oh, we stole the knife. She he ran away. 1191 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,280 She gets up. He's just washing himself. 1192 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,800 We see Dylan O'Brien's ass on screen and he's doing kettle 1193 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:44,600 bells. Good job. 1194 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,720 Or, or is that stare stepper? You tell me. 1195 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,640 He's that stare stepper. Is he Oh, you're saying off 1196 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,120 screen I was like, what's he doing? 1197 00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,920 I thought you meant he like. No, I'm saying Dylan O'Brien's 1198 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,480 the person. I was like, he looks good. 1199 00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,680 Yeah, I don't know. I honestly the butt wasn't 1200 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,280 memorable to me. OK, after a year of talking, 1201 01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,080 like after the past few months we're talking about Timothy 1202 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,000 Chalamet's ass and Marty Supreme, I feel like Dylan. 1203 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,080 I wasn't like saying. He deserves his five seconds of 1204 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:10,960 thing. Yeah, great shape, but sure. 1205 01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,120 Yeah, Dylan, you know, keep doing that stair stepper. 1206 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:19,520 I see you trying to do the stair stepper frequently myself. 1207 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,800 Let's go. And so he, she's like, OK, they 1208 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,760 can work with this. And then they go to The Cave and 1209 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:26,800 they have a Hunger Games moment where they sort of like, cuddle 1210 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,080 up. Yeah, Pita, pita situation. 1211 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,560 And you're like, wait a second, who's Pita in the situation? 1212 01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,640 Who's being tricked? Like, who's Katniss? 1213 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:35,840 Yeah. And then? 1214 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,800 The the knife, she still has a knife when she grabs for it, 1215 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,920 right? And this is like what we didn't 1216 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,640 know at the time, but he's building the raft while she is 1217 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,120 sleeping. Which is amazing. 1218 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,400 Which I, I feel like at that. So then he also is like, hey, 1219 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:51,920 you know what, like I understand. 1220 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,720 Let's stay on the island to her right. 1221 01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,800 And and he's like, let me make you dinner for once. 1222 01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,720 And she agrees. And and again, there's like this 1223 01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:04,080 like budding romance kind of feel and but you're still kind 1224 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,240 of what's happening. And by the way, you're only, 1225 01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:09,280 you're only questioning because Dylan's great, but you're only 1226 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,640 questioning because Rachel McAdams is so committed to the 1227 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,000 absurdity of any screenplay that she's given. 1228 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,160 There's a there was a great side. 1229 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,920 There was a great interview with Sam Raimi about why he cast 1230 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,240 Rachel McAdams in this movie. And he said in Doctor Strange 1231 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,760 Multiverse of Madness, which he directed the 2nd Doctor Strange 1232 01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:28,440 movie, she has a bigger part in that film opposite Benedict 1233 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,320 Cumberbatch and she has to fight a ghost at one point at the end 1234 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:32,840 of that movie. And he was like, did. 1235 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,760 We see that. Movie we did, yeah. 1236 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:36,720 I think it's all you need to know about Doctor Strange. 1237 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:37,960 Multiverse madness. That you'd ask. 1238 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,080 That yeah, it's very sad that she has such a forgettable role. 1239 01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:41,640 In that well, actually might have been the last good Marvel 1240 01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:45,360 movie that I've seen. But so she what was I saying? 1241 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,560 OK, so so he was like, hey, you're going to fight a ghost 1242 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,880 like a demon ghost is going to jump on you in this movie. 1243 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,920 And he was like, I was expecting her to go OK, like this is 1244 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,680 Rachel McAdams. Like she's not really in it in 1245 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,160 these movies for this probably meaning for money just to play 1246 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,480 like a that non superhero character is like a nurse, a 1247 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:01,680 doctor. She's like one of the most 1248 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,680 underwritten leads or superstars of the MCU. 1249 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,280 Yeah. And she goes, well, OK, how much 1250 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,440 does a ghost weigh? And is it going to be in that 1251 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,080 corner is going to be over here? And he was like, immediately. 1252 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,000 Yeah, he's like, immediately she was thinking about the physics 1253 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:18,160 of the scene because she just is so immersed into any absurdity 1254 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:19,480 of any screenplay that she's given. 1255 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,680 He thinks that's like an under, you know, sung talent of her as 1256 01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,440 an actor that you can play in any genre. 1257 01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:26,800 Anyways, I'm just saying all this because the only reason you 1258 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,560 believe that Linda believes that she can fall in love with 1259 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,400 Bradley or be in love with him is because of McAdams. 1260 01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,560 That's fair, yeah. And I and I think in that 1261 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:41,040 moment, though, I also sort of believe Dylan O'Brien. 1262 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,680 So the. Interesting. 1263 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,480 The poisoning. I turned to you and I was like, 1264 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:49,320 it's the berries from earlier. The poisoning, yeah, that he he 1265 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:53,320 finds on the berries where she makes him hike up, hike up this 1266 01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:58,880 like mountain with a an injury. But but yeah, so like that, that 1267 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,200 poisoning and then getting on the raft and be like, ha ha, 1268 01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:08,480 like into the into the sunset. It makes it was so out of left 1269 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,080 field. Like it I was like, where should 1270 01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,400 this come from? To me, at least in the movie, I 1271 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,240 was like watching at at that point, I felt like we needed a 1272 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:20,000 little bit more suspicion from him to like lead us up to that 1273 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,840 moment so it didn't feel so abrupt. 1274 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:28,240 But that is a very like, you know, small issue in a movie 1275 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,600 that has that's just kind of all over the place. 1276 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:35,560 Yeah, yeah, the fuck you, Linda. Definitely made me laugh a lot 1277 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,360 in the theater. I think that's what he said. 1278 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:38,880 And then when he gets hit by the wave. 1279 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,520 Yeah, on the and he's like, and she's like, and then then the 1280 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:46,160 next morning when he's like depressed, she's like, Oh yeah, 1281 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:50,320 like you should have added this extra, you know, layer to the to 1282 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,560 the raft and she's like, but I didn't teach you that one. 1283 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,400 Right, well, let's rewind just a little bit. 1284 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,000 When she rescues him out of the ocean and she throws up in his 1285 01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,800 mouth for 30 seconds. That was disgusting. 1286 01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,320 That also got a huge reaction from our theater. 1287 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,720 So he wakes up the next morning. She paralyzes him with octopus 1288 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:09,960 venom. Oh, right. 1289 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,080 And you think, and this is where the movie turns, This is where 1290 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,800 the movie turns for me, where I was like, oh fuck, we're in a 1291 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,280 different movie. And I wish, I actually wish that 1292 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:23,160 this is where the movie went, where she is like she's what do 1293 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,280 you, I guess, castrating him right as punishment. 1294 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,720 And it is outrageous. And it was so upsetting and 1295 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,240 uncomfortable, but also kind of deeply symbolic. 1296 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,640 And I liked that. And I thought that dismantling 1297 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:40,920 him was like a funny thing in the in the middle of what was 1298 01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,240 about to be a romance. So I was like, oh, this is about 1299 01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,240 to go. So Kathy Bates, James Caan, 1300 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:49,920 Misery, shout out Rob Reiner because I thought that was like, 1301 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,880 this is how she, like, keeps him on this island. 1302 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,360 And then when she chose the rat, that she could have rat open. 1303 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:55,960 I'm like, this is such a silly film. 1304 01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:58,680 Like, you can't take anything too seriously or else it's going 1305 01:04:58,680 --> 01:04:59,760 to get you. It feels like the movie is 1306 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,120 constantly trying to wink at you and then just at the last second 1307 01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,440 decides to keep looking off camera. 1308 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,360 And then as soon as the end, the movie ends and Rachel McAdams 1309 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,520 looks at us in her car and winks at us, the audience. 1310 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:13,440 I was like, OK, Sam Raimi was having fun with us. 1311 01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,960 So yeah, she kills the fiance. She killed a guy helping. 1312 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:22,680 Her and I also was I think the the interesting part about 1313 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,000 casting Rachel McAdams is that like, not only was I in 1314 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,600 disbelief that the character was doing this just cuz she feels 1315 01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:34,160 like a a regular like person who yeah, like maybe spends who has 1316 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:38,080 spent a little bit of time alone and you know, whatever. 1317 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:41,400 But it's a, it's a, it's an issue of a trope of, you know 1318 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:43,520 what a woman character in this movie. 1319 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:49,160 But for Rachel McAdams, like in terms of her career history, 1320 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,000 you're like, wait, I can't believe that this character, but 1321 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,200 then also Rachel McAdams is going to let someone fall off a 1322 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,800 Cliff, you know? So I think that was also a part 1323 01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,280 of the the layers of the movie that made it fun because I was 1324 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,120 like, I can't, I couldn't believe she murdered him. 1325 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,680 Yeah. Bradley. 1326 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,040 They fight, right? He rips part of her hair out. 1327 01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,520 Like we said, she bites. His like muscle off this whole. 1328 01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:13,960 Sequence. Is wild. 1329 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:18,080 And he gets stabbed, so he flees, but he's struggling, he's 1330 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:22,280 bleeding out, and he finds the beach house, which is awesome. 1331 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,720 It reframes the entire story. And this is where we learned 1332 01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,600 that she's been getting fruits. She got the knife. 1333 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,040 She was like, you got a knife like this just washed up on the 1334 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,760 beach, you idiot. Well, the first, I guess the 1335 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,320 beginning of the whole time there when she had the sushi 1336 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,840 line up and he was like begging, you know, for the food. 1337 01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,160 And he's still like again, side eyeing her when she's looking 1338 01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:45,000 away, which is amazing acting. I was like, this is funny 1339 01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,760 because she is that prepared for Survivor. 1340 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,160 But then when it came to the beach house reveal and you're 1341 01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,480 like, oh, this is even funnier if you're a survivor fan because 1342 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:58,280 there have always been rumors about contestants getting 1343 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,880 catering or snacks off camera. And I took that as a great like, 1344 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,440 I don't know if it's intentional or accidental, but like met a 1345 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,320 joke For me personally, I was that's. 1346 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,040 Good. A challenge that we had watched. 1347 01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,760 And if you win the challenge, you get to go to a restaurant to 1348 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,320 eat a meal. That's a pretty normal thing 1349 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,240 they do on the show, Yeah. They'll be like, come to this, a 1350 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,360 deserted island, one person of your choice. 1351 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,920 There are rumors, yeah. Yeah. 1352 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:21,680 OK, that that that was happening, I think. 1353 01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,240 Some confirmed. I think somebody was sneaking 1354 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,320 someone like snicker bars. One season I'm pretty sure that 1355 01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:31,640 happened. So Linda gets a shotgun, she 1356 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:35,480 goes to kill him, he steals the shotgun because he starts using 1357 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:39,080 his like sad hot white boy charm where he keeps trying to like 1358 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,320 get her to feel bad for him because of his parents. 1359 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,040 I'll stay. I'll stay with you like I love 1360 01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:48,720 you. Your companion and still for a 1361 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,880 moment I'm like, I don't believe him, but like this movie so 1362 01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,280 strange that I guess they could this could do it. 1363 01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,280 And as soon as he steals the gun and he tries to shoot her and 1364 01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,440 it's not loaded, she's like, I'm done with you. 1365 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,640 And she kills him with, you know, the elitist Golf Club 1366 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,480 symbol of everything he once valued, which I thought was 1367 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,000 pretty awesome. I totally forgot that was how 1368 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,480 the final kill happened. Yeah. 1369 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,880 I just loved how she was watching him on all the. 1370 01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:12,760 Security cameras. It's a good match cut of him, 1371 01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,399 like smacking his face with the 9 iron and then going to her 1372 01:08:16,399 --> 01:08:19,319 actually playing golf and talking about her documentary. 1373 01:08:19,319 --> 01:08:20,640 She wrote a book. Yeah. 1374 01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,200 Yeah, the book. About how to survive, Yeah, 1375 01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,720 that's so great. But yeah, I mean, this and this 1376 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,960 particular and sequence of the movie, like it was such a funny 1377 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:34,680 reveal with the house. I liked her being this kind of 1378 01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,840 like menacing figure behind all these screens, like watching him 1379 01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:42,120 just go throughout the house in shock and also panic. 1380 01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:47,600 But the the sequence at the end where it was painted as if she, 1381 01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:51,439 like wanted to stay on the island to trap him, to love him 1382 01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:55,479 because she's a lonely woman who eats tuna sandwiches along with 1383 01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,040 her bird and watches survivor. That I was like boring, like, 1384 01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:05,240 you know, like such a boring idea of like just motivation 1385 01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,000 that seems so unrealistic for like a woman. 1386 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,279 It just it felt like a very tired trope that we've seen. 1387 01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:16,040 But in terms of the the actual like house and horror sequence 1388 01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:21,040 of, of it all and the kill at the end, like that was that was 1389 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,760 fine for me in terms of yeah, the the mechanics of of the 1390 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,680 movie. It made it fun and I liked at 1391 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:31,479 the end how how she, you know, becomes this, this person who's 1392 01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,359 essentially she takes Dylan O'Brien's job. 1393 01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:36,240 Yeah, it is doing a little bit of like the most because of like 1394 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,240 it was already fun and satirical, but then it's like 1395 01:09:38,279 --> 01:09:40,359 now we're talking about consumable, you know, 1396 01:09:40,399 --> 01:09:43,600 entertaining trauma and making it like into a book or 1397 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,279 documentary or signing into movie rights. 1398 01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:48,560 And I was like, I this this movie is like a little bit like, 1399 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,640 it's just too silly for its own good. 1400 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:54,080 It doesn't take itself serious enough for me to actually think. 1401 01:09:54,080 --> 01:10:00,120 It's like something, I guess serious, I don't know something. 1402 01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:01,640 It's. Successful enough for. 1403 01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,760 Me. An OK movie to me, yeah, that I 1404 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,120 had a lot of fun watching. Yeah, it's effective as a camp 1405 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,320 horror, but I feel like camp horror, I guess I'm trying to 1406 01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:09,880 say, has a very low ceiling for me. 1407 01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:13,240 And this hit that ceiling as like high as it could, if it 1408 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:16,160 makes sense. Yeah, extra credits. 1409 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,560 I liked how the, I, I guess I liked the will they won't they 1410 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:21,680 chemistry between the two of them. 1411 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,000 I was a little bit curious going into this. 1412 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,480 Like will Rachel McAdams and Dylan O'Brien have chemistry? 1413 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,720 Because O'Brien is like closer to our age and probably had a 1414 01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,040 crush on Rachel McAdams growing up, like how most of us did, or 1415 01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:35,200 at least I did. And I think he's confirmed that 1416 01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,080 interview since. But I guess he has to say that. 1417 01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,400 But like, I I'm sure he did, considering how much of AA fan 1418 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:45,120 he was for early work. Yeah, and walking out, I was 1419 01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:48,440 actually pretty convinced by their fake romance, and so I was 1420 01:10:48,440 --> 01:10:50,600 surprised by their chemistry. So I'll say extra credit to the 1421 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,440 chemistry for me. Interesting. 1422 01:10:52,440 --> 01:10:55,680 OK, yeah. I mean, I guess I was surprised 1423 01:10:55,800 --> 01:11:00,600 by like how they were meshing in the movie because they feel like 1424 01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,920 opposite off screen presences. Yeah. 1425 01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:07,120 So that that makes sense. I'm going to give extra credit 1426 01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:14,000 to Dylan O'Brien. Just like giggling. 1427 01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,000 Like, not he's not giggling, He's going. 1428 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,960 He's panic laughing, tackling panic. 1429 01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,840 Laughing. Yeah, or making like cries like 1430 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,280 that are essentially like high pitched cries. 1431 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,120 There's a squeal that Ryan Gosling does in The Nice Guys. 1432 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,120 Yeah, that reminded me of what he's up to in this. 1433 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,080 And then were Rolster crows like he's going to break his arms. 1434 01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:37,640 Like no, no. Totally. 1435 01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:41,960 So that really like I think just brought brought me back to the 1436 01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,760 movie at all times when I was like, what are we watching right 1437 01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,000 now? And then Rachel McAdams kind of 1438 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,200 like her. I I don't know exactly how to 1439 01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:56,320 describe it, but when she's like chewing slash, like she she gets 1440 01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:01,120 in like almost like like a coach, you know, look at Dylan 1441 01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:05,600 O'Brien like get together or she she's kind of like smirking at 1442 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,480 him. Like those moments in the movie 1443 01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,600 where where she's like she kind of like shakes her head in 1444 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,040 disbelief that he's in a different reality than she is. 1445 01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:19,360 Like the things that she is doing to make me be on her side 1446 01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:23,000 of I guess a character that like wants to stay on the island for 1447 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,880 in the movies logic of like these wild reasons of wanting to 1448 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,120 keep him there. Anyway, I just I really loved 1449 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,120 her performance. Like it was so fun and I and I 1450 01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:35,240 didn't take the character obviously seriously because this 1451 01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:40,840 movie is super silly, but I did like at moments take what she 1452 01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:45,000 was doing like seriously enough for me to buy into the stakes of 1453 01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,640 the movie and surface level terms, if that makes sense. 1454 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:49,680 That's a good way to frame it though I guess it did remind me 1455 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:53,680 of like an army command, like a, an army grunt with their 1456 01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,480 commander and then being disappointed in them not being 1457 01:12:56,480 --> 01:12:58,560 able to do their their duties. I guess we just watched A Few 1458 01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,520 Good Men recently and I was kind of thinking about that. 1459 01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:04,040 Yeah. I, I guess I ultimately, I love 1460 01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,000 that they don't fall in love. I love that they recognize 1461 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:07,920 themselves and each other. And they're like more mirrors. 1462 01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:13,360 And I, I like that that Bradley sees what's her name Linda. 1463 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:18,360 And it's like, it is unbearable what I see in you that is saying 1464 01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,000 a lot about me. So I I need to kill you or get 1465 01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,560 off this island? I wish it be the only thing. 1466 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,960 I wish we got like a flashback or something because we see her 1467 01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,920 find the house right and like see the deliveries and 1468 01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:32,720 everything and because the person isn't home. 1469 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,680 I wish we got 1 scene of flashing back to her like 1470 01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:39,920 sitting on the couch watching TV, like eating, like having a 1471 01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:41,560 snack. I just think it would have been 1472 01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:43,240 a fun little addition. Yeah. 1473 01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,600 Did you like the zombie scene with the fiance or no? 1474 01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,880 The jump scare Very same Remy. I kind of forget. 1475 01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,000 Where she sees the smoky, foggy beach. 1476 01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:56,400 Oh yeah, that's fine. For Rachel McAdams career 1477 01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,240 because I think we're heading to the end of our episode now 1478 01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,960 again, I talked a lot about this on TikTok already on our YouTube 1479 01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,400 recently what we're about to do in about time deep dive on 1480 01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:05,240 Patreon, which. Yeah. 1481 01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:06,720 So we'll talk more about it there. 1482 01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,280 Super excited about you. Just want me to read you my top 1483 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:10,400 ten. You can just tell me what you 1484 01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:14,520 agree with or disagree with, OK? I'm not going to explain these 1485 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,040 because I already have, so you can go listen to the 1486 01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,640 explanations elsewhere in the description of this episode #10 1487 01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:24,720 Southpaw #9. Wedding crashers #8 Red eye #7 1488 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:26,360 Send help. Number six. 1489 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:27,520 Are you there? God, it's me. 1490 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,800 Margaret #5. Spotlight #4. 1491 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:35,440 Game night #3. The notebook #2 About time 1492 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,040 number one. Get in, loser. 1493 01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:40,080 We're going shopping. Mean Girls. 1494 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:43,840 Regina George. Wow, yeah, I think, I think Mean 1495 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:47,080 Girls is I, I definitely agree in terms of performances. 1496 01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:48,520 Like what she's doing there is crazy. 1497 01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,920 I think literally the greatest comic performance of the 21st 1498 01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,720 century is Regina George. And while it's obviously like a 1499 01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:59,080 hugely celebrated movie, an underrated performance, an under 1500 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,280 celebrated performance in Rachel McAdams. 1501 01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:03,680 There's a lot missing off that top ten, obviously. 1502 01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:07,480 The Family Stone The Vow. Morning Glory Midnight in Paris 1503 01:15:07,480 --> 01:15:09,600 I. Don't really remember the vow, 1504 01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:13,800 but I think I think as we talk about this more with About Time, 1505 01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,280 I'll probably argue for the Family Stone being on there. 1506 01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:21,920 Yeah, even though it's a weird movie, I still watch it every 1507 01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,560 Christmas. Yeah, kind of a holiday movie, 1508 01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:25,920 The. Holiday. 1509 01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:27,520 Yeah. I mean, I like that list. 1510 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:29,680 OK, I'll think about it. All right. 1511 01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:31,320 Yeah. No hot takes about. 1512 01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,320 Send help at number. Seven I I was thinking that's, 1513 01:15:33,480 --> 01:15:35,520 that's pretty. High, but she she. 1514 01:15:36,480 --> 01:15:38,720 Like has a lot to do in this, you know. 1515 01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,120 Let me ask you this, you just recently watched Red Eye, which 1516 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,040 is the only other horror film she's been in, I believe. 1517 01:15:43,480 --> 01:15:46,400 Do you think that that is 'cause that performance is a little bit 1518 01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,040 more like Final Girl? Russ Craven? 1519 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:49,000 Well. Yeah, that's what I was going to 1520 01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:49,960 say. That's what I was like kind of 1521 01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,120 wrestling with is that. So Red Eye was a really fun 1522 01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:56,160 movie. A better movie than Sent Help, 1523 01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,400 so if you haven't seen Red Red Eye in a minute, watch that 1524 01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,240 again. And Kelly and Murphy's great in 1525 01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,760 that too. Like just watching them like 1526 01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,480 basically in a room for most of the movie on a plane. 1527 01:16:05,480 --> 01:16:07,320 Kind of similar, like are you guys going to fall in love or 1528 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:08,320 are you going to kill each other? 1529 01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,000 But there's more of a clear total distinction of what 1530 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,240 happens when the reveal happens. And A and a more like, I guess 1531 01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,920 truer horror movie. But she was asked to do this is 1532 01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:20,440 where I was like kind of going back and forth. 1533 01:16:20,440 --> 01:16:26,560 She's asked to do this like innocent woman who was scorned 1534 01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:30,440 but is still like, sweet, you know, kind of thing from that 1535 01:16:30,440 --> 01:16:34,360 particular era that I, yes, she's great in it. 1536 01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,440 But like, I enjoy what she's doing a little bit more and send 1537 01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:39,080 help that feels a little bit more zany. 1538 01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:40,640 So I understand. Yeah. 1539 01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,840 OK, let me think about this and I'll have like more. 1540 01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:46,320 I just love those plots that are like, you picked the wrong woman 1541 01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,040 to fuck with. You thought she was being nice 1542 01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:49,720 because nothing's ever happened to her. 1543 01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,000 In fact, she is a survivor. And good fucking luck. 1544 01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:55,600 Killian Murphy. And she also, you know, shows us 1545 01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,200 in game night. God, I love that performance. 1546 01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,680 I love that performance so much. Her and Jason Bateman are, like, 1547 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,440 amazing together. And yeah, yeah. 1548 01:17:05,440 --> 01:17:07,520 You know, on the About Time episode I didn't like. 1549 01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:08,680 Oh. My God, he's dead. 1550 01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:12,120 Oh no. What am I going to shoot this 1551 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:18,440 gun bang? But I want to ask you like who 1552 01:17:18,440 --> 01:17:22,400 your favorite, I guess chemistry of like her acting opposite too 1553 01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,800 is when we get there. Oh, let's do that on about time. 1554 01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:26,560 Yeah, that's what I. Yeah. 1555 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:27,360 OK. Yeah, that's a deeper 1556 01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:28,960 conversation. That's a great question and I'll 1557 01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:30,280 ask you that as well. OK. 1558 01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,040 That was the extra credits of Sam. 1559 01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:33,880 Raimi's the question is really, who can match her? 1560 01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:35,560 But yeah, extra credit of Sam Raimi. 1561 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:37,120 I guess just Gosling, I don't know. 1562 01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:40,000 That's a that's a hard one. That was the extra credits of 1563 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:44,000 Sam Raimi's send help again. We won't be back for a bit. 1564 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:48,720 I would assume you'll hear an episode with just me speaking to 1565 01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:52,360 writer director Adam Vollerich about his movie Drink and Be 1566 01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,320 Merry coming out very soon on our feed, but is out right now 1567 01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:58,040 for you to rent on Prime or elsewhere. 1568 01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,120 And then I think we'll have like an Oscars episode the end of 1569 01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,320 this month or best of 2025 episode, the end of this month 1570 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,240 of February. I mean, so look out for that. 1571 01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:09,520 And don't forget to see 28 Years Later Part 2, The Bone Temple in 1572 01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,200 theaters. If you have to go a second or 1573 01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:14,840 third time, please do. We will do that as well because 1574 01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:16,440 we really want to see the third movie and. 1575 01:18:16,480 --> 01:18:19,440 Listen to our episode about why we love that so much and also 1576 01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:21,960 Part 1, which we loved. Yes, and don't forget to follow 1577 01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:25,000 Letterbox, TikTok, Instagram, all that in the description of 1578 01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:26,000 this episode. Peace out. 1579 01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:26,080 Bye.