The Hello, welcome to the Extra Credits.
My name is Trey. And I'm Kelsey.
We're doing something we haven't done in years, a mailbag Q&A
episode. For those who follow us on
social, you already know we collected some great questions
from Instagram, letterbox, Twitter, through e-mail.
But we want to make sure everyone has a chance to ask us
something. So we thought we'd do A2, you
know, maybe 2 quick 10-15 minute updates on this episode today
with the Q&A and also some programming updates in
September. And for those questions, you can
ask anything about movies, movies in 2025, movies in
general. Yeah, we.
Also have a lot of new listeners from our weapons episode and
other movies that that came out this summer that we're doing on
the main feed. So for any new listeners or long
time listeners, yeah, let us know if you have any questions
in the Spotify comments or you can follow us on social media
where we usually like drop that We're we're doing those
episodes. But yeah, has it been years
since we? Q&A I think so the beginning of
2024, end of 2023, it's an episode that's not on the main
feed on anymore, right? We pulled a lot of episodes off
the main feed and a lot are going back on Patreon.
But no, I don't think we have AQ and a episode on the main feed
at all. So if you're a new listener and
you're like, who are these people?
That's totally valid. And it's one of the reasons
we're doing an episode where you can ask us anything you want.
The easiest way to get questions to us would be our e-mail, which
is extra credit to pod@gmail.com.
You can find the address to that e-mail in the description of
this episode, as well as our other socials where you can
follow us or DM us. If you're listening on Spotify,
like Kelsey said, you can drop your question in the comments
section of this episode. And if you're a Patreon
listener, we'll probably put this episode on there too.
And you can leave a comment right under this episode or DM
us over on Patreon as well. Yeah, programming updates
outside of any questions stuff. Any more questions, stuff that
you want to throw out there? No, we've already gotten a good
amount. We've already got about 15 or 20
questions, a lot to work with. We already have the great ones,
but it's, you know, we have a lot of listeners like on Spotify
who I feel like might not know that we're doing AQ and a
episode and also you got sick if you can't hear it, listeners and
Trey's voice. So we're like, if we're going to
push it anyway, let's let's just let let everyone know so they
can like drop us a question, but no, we can we can talk about
programming. So.
It's been a few weeks since Weapons, which has turned into a
huge box office hit, taking in almost $200 million or more
globally at this point, and is also one of our most listened to
episodes of all time, Which isn't meant to be a flex, but it
can just like sit out there, I guess and sound like a flex, but
it's more so kind of surprising. Yeah, I I was going to say like
it is surprising just because of the type of horror movie that it
is like playing in Supernatural, right.
More like, I mean, Stephen King movies are popular obviously,
and they're it's sort of like in that sub genre of horror.
But it's certainly something that I didn't know broad
audiences would like latch onto in the way that they have, which
is. Great.
Well, horror fans have always been really passionate about
listening to podcasts. There's some great some of the
best movie podcasts are horror podcasts like Evolution of
Horror is one of the great, you know, movie pods to listen to
and I recommend that one. But you know, our most listened
to episodes of all time really have been Jordan Peele movies.
Like Jordan Peele's GOAT was our most listened to episode
forever. And then Barbarian was up there
as well. But Weapons has already like
become the second or #1 most listen to episode of our whole
podcast in three weeks, which is insane because we've had this
show for three years. So you can imagine how many
downloads accumulate over that time.
So a very special episode. We also got, you know, hundreds,
if not over 1000 new listeners from just that episode alone.
So that all those people. Hello, welcome.
Hi, happy to have you here. We usually put out more episodes
on the main feed. It has been three weeks since
anybody's heard from us. As Kelsey said, I was sick,
maybe still AM, for over a week now.
And we're also both in education, so it's the like
busiest time, one of the busiest times of year for us, like
starting a new semester. Yeah, we started up our jobs
again and took a few weeks off from the pod.
I usually get sick from the students the first week or
second week of school. It's also around my birthday
time. So it's kind of a chaotic, you
know, mid August era for us like every year.
This is just like a, a terrible time.
Like it's a fun time, but it's like a.
Terrible thing, and it's a terrible.
It's super busy. No, yeah, it's a terrible time
in terms of in terms of feeling guilty about not putting out
things on the main feed like that.
Yeah. But otherwise, like outside of
the pod, it's a beautiful time. Yes, that's true.
Our next main feed episode though, should be Spike Lee's
Highest to Lowest. We saw it a few weeks ago.
It's been a while. We have a lot of complicated
thoughts about that movie. I've been waiting to talk about
it with you on the podcast. And without spoiling anything
about that movie because it is still in this Apple TV Plus
limited release that is just awful for movies, it doesn't
release on streaming until September 5th on that that
streaming platform. So if you can't see the movie
yet, and we're probably going to wait until that date to release
our episode on this movie and you want a refresher on what
Spike Lee is trying to do in this film, I recommend watching
or rewatching his great, you know, heist thriller Inside Man
from 2006, which we're covering on Patreon in a few weeks.
And also watching for the first time, we're re watching Akira
Kurosawa's masterpiece High and Low, which is a movie we just
covered on Patreon about a week or two ago.
And we did an episode on that to get ready for Spikes film and
talk a lot about why we think that is such a great classic
movie and also what we were hoping to see in Spikes film
because we cover that episode before we saw Spike's new movie.
And we're putting that episode on Patreon right now for free
members. So you just have to sign up as a
free member in the description of this episode to get that
review. And I recommend it because I
think it's going to give people a lot of context for why we love
high and low so much and why we were so surprised highest to
lowest. It is taking the similar mold of
what Carousel was doing and then adding the spikisms to it that I
really enjoy. But it's also kind of like
turning that narrative and character study into something
different that didn't totally work for us.
So I think you kind of need that context of our conversation on
that episode to totally get what we're going to say in our
highest to lowest review next week.
Yeah. So we want to get people access
to that for. That Yeah.
Well, so we had done high and low, right, as a, you know, a
Curasawa's like movie on Patreon in preparation, like you said.
But definitely we'll give you context because we hadn't seen
like Spike Lee's movie yet, right?
And he doesn't call it a remake. He calls it like a re
imagination. A re interpretation, A remake.
He's just a lot of. Different words.
He just doesn't want. To yeah, be clear that it's not
like a remake. And I've seen a lot of movie
critics also talk about how we shouldn't compare Spike Lee's
movie to high and low, but we aren't necessarily like coming
from that point of view. Because obviously, like if if
you're redoing a movie in any capacity, like you can take it
in different routes or, or kind of like put a new lens on it,
especially since it's set in the US, right?
But there were certain things I think that we talked about on
that that pod. Sometimes when we do our Patreon
pods, especially our number one boy episodes, which are kind of
like classics. I forget what we said, but I do
remember us saying something about like, there are a few
things that could really like mess this movie up in terms of a
remake or or whatever, you know what I mean?
Like redoing it in any way. And some of those things like
happened to like kind of a a huge surprise to me, right?
And I think to you that like Spike took it in that direction
and and we'll talk about that because, you know, we recently
like re watched a lot of his movies.
And so it's interesting to track like different ways that he'll
tackle like similar themes that he does in highest to lowest.
So yeah, we'll, we'll talk about that.
But I think it's definitely helpful to one watch the movie
to even know like kind of what the source material is getting
at and what I think is so successful at.
But then also, I think, you know, before even seeing highest
to lowest, we're like, this is the only thing that could go
wrong. And like, you know, while we did
like highest to lowest, there were like those things that I
was surprised to see. I'll leave it at that.
Thematically and through what perspective we see in the story,
those are the big changes made that I was surprised about in a
vacuum and also in comparing it to the the classic, obviously.
So yeah, I recommend seeing it in the movie theater if you can
over this next week until it comes out and streaming or
however long it's going to be in theaters because obviously we
want to support any movies that are going to theaters and not,
you know, at home on our couch. I also think watching this movie
at home on your couch will be a bad time.
I think a lot of people will turn highest to lowest off after
45 minutes and they'll come back to it after another night
because the 1st 45 are are the pacing is slow and it's tough to
watch at home, I would assume, because even in the theater, you
could feel people in the crowd being like, is this like
subversive? Why is it moving in this
direction? Why are they using the score in
that way? I'm getting a little sleepy.
And that's not everybody, obviously, but we'll talk, you
know, we're being intentionally vague so we can move on, but
we'll, you know, I, I recommend people go and listen to that
high and low episode. So go ahead and sign up in the
description. Episode, I think unless you're
someone who is like really interested in how Spike Lee is
like making movies and how like everything's shot and all the
choices, like we are like broader audiences might feel the
pacing. That's a good way to frame it.
If you're a Spike Lee head, you're going to love, Yeah,
everything about it, right? And we are Spike Lee heads.
But we're also like movie review pods, Potters, whatever we do
here. Whatever it is that we're doing.
So that Lee episode will be out soon.
We also considered covering Darren Aronofsky's Caught
Stealing 'cause we had like a super early like critics
screening to that. And we've been thinking about it
for a while and then forgot about it because it is sort of a
forgettable movie. It is a silly, fun, Austin
Butler action comedy and it is a type of movie that we ask for
all the time. Yeah, that's true.
But it kind of sucks that I have no interest in like covering it
for 30 minutes. Yeah, well, I think we'll
probably end up talking about it like on our end of year pod,
right. But I I'll say one thing, OK,
long time listeners know that I'm not an Austin Butler person.
In fact, I kind of like really bump against the Austin Butler
fame because I don't want like be Brad Pitt kind of like
infiltrating the movie space. I don't want like models, right?
Like coming into the movie space and.
You're not connected to his like press runs or anything like
that. You don't really know how he
talks. To me, you know, put a bad taste
in my mouth. You're.
Playing as a performer though, because as a person in his like,
interviews and the way he speaks to people and like how present
he is, like I've been taken over by the Austin Butler.
The charm. Experiment.
Because he's so charming and so present and what, seemingly so
just, well, I don't know, calm. Yeah.
He's. Like he's media trained but also
it feels like he is actually maybe like a nice person and he
cares. And you really don't know.
Yeah, we don't really care also about celebrity, right?
Like there are certain celebrities, I love their kind
of persona and like the the way that they interview, which we've
talked about. But yeah, no, like even that I
don't, I don't really find it charming.
Like I, yes, like I, I'm like, OK.
Seems like a nice guy if you're like, nice.
But like, but I'm not like whoa, I'm yeah, it's.
Very charismatic to. You by his like his cool guy
energy of like just being, you know, calm and like what I I
think like for me, I've just been on the the kind of side or,
or maybe this is just only me. It's a a few people in my corner
being like, I don't want to see Austin Butler starring in my
movies, like leading my movies. I'd love to.
See him as. A character and.
Then. Yeah, yes.
So like I thought in Eddington, that was a perfect place to use
him. But anyway, the whole the whole
reason I'm kind of going on this.
Is. Pivot of of Austin Butler is
that I was actually surprised that I liked him and caught
stealing and I think like this is where again like he could be
used as a leading man. All the Austin Butler people
don't come for me. I don't care enough to even like
have the conversation, but I I feel that I feel that, you know,
fade Rotha. He was good in Eddington.
He was good caught stealing. I I liked him right.
I thought he was like an interesting kind of trying to
get through life. There were some emotional things
that were trying to be really the backdrop of this character
that that just because of the filmmaking itself and the where
they were introduced in the pace like didn't work.
But he did his best and I was not bothered by Austin Butler
was what I was trying to I was trying to be.
I was trying to give a compliment.
OK, Austin Butler was here, but Zoe Kravitz, OK, Can we just
talk about Zoe Kravitz in this movie?
She's amazing. She's the reason to see it, you
know, and I think that she's not well used or not used as much as
she should be in the movie. But I do think her and Austin
Butler have such good chemistry in the small amount of screen
time, surprisingly, that they have in this movie.
But when they're on screen together, you're like, holy
shit. Like, I get it.
And it, like I said, this is the kind of movie that we were
asking for so much where we get pulpy, silly thrillers that are
about, like, Drifters who mean well but are like, suffering
from, like, this trauma in their childhoods or whatever.
And that seems like an overused theme.
But when done in this kind of like Coen brothers meets
Scorsese after hours tone, it's kind of exciting.
Except by the end of the movie, you're like, that was 30 minutes
too long. There's too much going on.
And I really will forget about this by tomorrow.
Or at least that's how I felt, unfortunately.
Which was surprising because Aronofsky is like, turned
himself into this provocateur, you know, auteur film maker.
But this movie didn't feel emotionally provocative to me at
all. Yeah, I agree.
I think there were. There was some like stuff to cut
for sure. But ultimately it was like a fun
time at the movies. But yes, very forgettable.
So I think that's why we just decided not to allocate our time
to covering it in full. Yeah, the writing isn't as good
as you'd want it to be. The next movie I want to talk
about that we might cover is the new Conjuring film, which comes
out this upcoming week, the first week of September,
September 5th, I believe. I think it's supposed to be the
last one. OK.
But like, I never know whether to believe that in the marketing
or not. We just rewatched the original
Conjuring last night. We did.
It rips. It's amazing.
It's very, very good. Yeah, I usually don't like
possession films. I mean, we did The Exorcist a
while back. Was that on Patreon?
One of my favorite episodes? Yeah, I think we did.
We covered it for. We did Rosemary's Baby on
Patreon but Exorcist was maybe main feed and then we took it
off. Maybe I'll put it on for Patreon
for Halloween. Yeah, OK, well, anyway, one of
my favorite episodes and I am not usually into either
supernatural or ghost movies, but I think The Conjuring has so
many good scares and makes you feel so uneasy.
I maybe, maybe I can convince Trey to to do it this year.
I don't know if we'll have time in the the schedule for
Halloween. Yeah, we're pretty busy the next
two months on Patreon, but it would be really fun.
We're going to watch the second one tonight, probably as we prep
for our Spike episodes. So Conjuring might cover that
white boy of the century, Dylan O'Brien, not the, you know, the
group he doesn't belong to the the group of white boys you
don't like, which is the Austin Butler, the Glen Powells, the
the. Jacob Lordies.
Dylan O'Brien Safe, I think in the mind of Kelsey, yes, Dylan
O'Brien starring in a movie called Twin Lists, which I
believe is like a queer love story, like tragic comedy that's
coming out this week, which I'm really excited for because it's
gotten great reviews, especially his performance.
So stoked to see that. So maybe we'll cover that or
maybe it'll be a random episode. Coconuts film.
A Big, Bold, Beautiful Journey comes out in two weeks, starring
Colin Farrell and Margot Robbie. Not sure what to expect.
I watched the like 15 seconds snippet where they're just kind
of like in a car together with awkward dialogue.
And in Coganata, I trust, you know, like because he's made
some really cool movies and he's a really experimental,
economical filmmaker with a lot of fun sci-fi surrealist ideas.
And so it seems like he's leaning in that direction, but
it also feels a little bit like he's making a musical or
something. Yeah, well, I feel like Margot
Robbie's a really interesting. I mean, get Margot Robbie, you
know, in any movie you can. Best actor in the world.
But I think that her tone is really interesting in a Coganata
movie. Like I like I like Colin Farrell
in his work, especially when we think of like after Yang or but
so yeah, it it looks like an interesting tone.
It kind of looks similar to like the life of Chuck tone.
Oh yeah. So I don't know which I didn't
see, but people I guess liked. Yeah, people did.
It was divisive. Yeah, it was divisive, but
people who loved it loved it. And then at the end of
September, we have PTA, one battle after another.
We're certainly covering that. I think we'll do a few PTA
episodes in September. That's the hope.
At least. That's the goal.
We'll see how that goes because again, of our jobs and how busy
we've been, but that's basically it.
So we have a Spike Lee movie coming out and we'll be covering
that next week. We might do Conjuring.
We probably we'll think about doing something in between in
the middle of September, maybe APCA ranking episode or
something like that, and then a deep, deep dive of 1 Battle
after another at the end of this month.
And then on Patreon in September, we're going to be
going into the Paul Thomas Anderson.
Project so excited it's. Probably Boogie Nights, probably
there will be blood. It's going to be a lot of fun.
So that's the Q&A, that's the programming that I want to talk
about for September and what's coming up.
And the Q&A should be coming out in the next few weeks to make
sure to get your questions in ASAP.
Do you know anything about what's going on right now with
the festivals? I don't.
I actually forgot that some of them were happening until I
started seeing pictures like being posted of stars on the red
carpet. Yeah.
So we have. There's been some good red
carpet stuff. I've seen that as well.
But we have Venice and Telluride going on at the same time.
We live in Colorado, didn't do Telluride.
One of these I want to do it next year.
I'd like to as well. It's kind of the worst timing to
do something like that because of our schools.
So I want to just run through some of the good stuff and bad
stuff. The pros and cons of these Film
Festival so far. I'm not sure what movies are
playing where, but this is just what I've collected off the
Internet, off Twitter, off Letterboxed, Guillermo del
Toro's Frankenstein. And by the way, I should say we
did a 30 most anticipated movies of this year and all of these
movies I'm about to bring up, we're on that list.
So if you have not listened to that episode, go back on our
main feed and listen to that episode.
But Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein was a movie that we
are both a little bit skeptical of because we're not super into
like the reimagining of Gothic worlds, you know, that new era
of like reimagining gothic worlds that we're entering into.
But it's del Toro who's a master Craftsman.
And apparently this movie rocks. And Jacob Allordi as
Frankenstein is really great. And Oscar Isaac is also just
kind of giving a really rich magnetic performance in it as
well. And they were really fun, the
red carpet, I saw both of them together, Oscar Isaac, one of
the most gorgeous looking people in the world.
So I'm excited for that. Because I did not expect it to
be get great reviews, especially because it looks to be a more
kind of direct, you know, it's the Del Toro world building, but
it is also Frankenstein. And like, it looks to be more of
a direct adaptation of the Shelley novel versus what we
just got with like poor things, you know, two years ago, which
was such a, like, subversive twist on that narrative.
Yeah, well, I wonder if it's more so like, what's?
Oh my gosh, I'm blanking on the water.
Oh, shape of water. Shape of Water, it could be or
if it's more like a nightmare alley, right?
And like those are kind of the two directions I feel that like
this could go so. I'm interested.
It's looking like Pan's Labyrinth a little bit to me,
but I would love it if it was Nightmare Alley, the next one
that's did surprisingly really well.
I'm not gonna talk about the ovations and like people
standing up for 10 minutes because I think it's really.
Strange. Yeah, but Yorgos Lanthimo who
also. Like starts the timer you.
Know very, very weird. Yorgos Lanthimos is Begonia,
which is starring Emma Stone and some other great actors like
Jesse Plemons is apparently very, very good, a dark comedy,
conspiracy satire. Emma Stone shaves her head.
She's been really good and funny in interviews about being like,
that's not really what my performance is about.
This is like actually a pretty physical performance.
Has nothing to do with me shaving my head.
That's not a big deal. But she has been really
interesting and press talking about the politics of this
movie. So I'm excited to have an
episode on that one. The last length of most movie I
saw was not very good. I know you didn't see that one.
Oh yeah, I didn't check out Kinds of Kindness.
Yeah, kind of tough. Noah Baumbach's J Kelly, George
Clooney apparently is excellent in this.
Adam Sandler, apparently also very good.
So that's exciting. That was a movie I was a little
bit worried about because I haven't seen George Clooney in
Something good in a long time, but an actor that we both like
for the end of his career. Yeah, I think he you know, I
hope that towards the end of his career, he's like embracing less
of the ticket to paradise, Although I know people love to
see like him and Julia Roberts and ROM com and more so of like
the a Cohen's brother, like weirdo burn after reading like
embracing that side of him, which I think hopefully would
would be what he's doing in a bomback world.
And then also just before we move on from Lanthimos, I am
interested to see like what Emma Stone does in that role, but
just so excited to see Jesse Plemons like become one of one
of the people, the great weirdos, the great.
Weirdos of cinema. Truly the mastermind.
Kelly Reichardt. Josh O'Connor.
So excited. He's one of my guys.
I know he's one of both of our guys, but certainly like one of
your favorite actors. Haven't heard anything about
this but fantasy. Just logged on letterbox 5
minutes ago. Gave it a heart and was like
Kelly Reichardt did it. OK.
So I'm excited. I think it's going to be good.
And Josh O'Connor is obviously like one of the most interesting
dramatic actors working right now.
So it, it's, it's cool pairing the two of them, especially
because it's like a heist, you know, drama, which is definitely
right up our our lane. Ham knit a movie.
I was not very excited for CLO Zhao making ham knit, which is a
kind of a Shakespeare story and it is starring Jesse Buckley and
Paul Meskel, 2 actors. I really like a director who I
who I've liked in moments. I'm not a huge nomad land
person, so I wasn't overly excited for this, but every
review that I've seen in Red is just saying it's the best movie.
Adventist or Telluride, wherever it's playing, it'll probably win
all the awards. So people think it's like going
to be a very big deal and it's like a devastating movie
emotionally. So that was kind of surprising
because it looked kind of like elevated and not, you know,
grounded. I didn't watch anything about
this. So yeah, I didn't.
I don't know. So I don't really know what to
think about it. I'll have to text some people
and ask. Ballot of a small player is
getting horrible reviews. Edward Berger movie, which is
too bad. That's sad.
Yeah, that's the Colin Farrell film where he's like in debt
until the Swenson's like, chasing him all over the world
or something, which sounds like a great plot.
Well, after Conclave I think I had such high hopes.
Yeah, I think we both bought stock of Edward Berger and his
project after a remake nobody asked for of All Quiet in the
Western Front. But it was like really well made
and experimental and interesting and some great performances that
Berger got out of his actors. And then Conclave similarly,
kind of Mean Girls meets the Vatican.
Very, very exciting, almost underrated at this point looking
back at it. And I guess it was nominated for
best Picture, but it felt like it came and goes to hit Netflix
so quickly. And then bout of a small player.
Apparently it's going to lean more into like the surreal in
moments. Maybe that's why it doesn't
work. I don't know.
Apparently the tone doesn't work in the movie is what I what I
read. I think from Ehrlich, Ehrlich,
Springsteen, deliver me from nowhere.
This movie looked horrible in the trailers.
It feels like Jeremy Allen White is doing a biopic because
Timothy Chalamet did his of Bob Dylan and it felt like.
The timing was another like young one in here.
Be Timothy Chalamet that we can get into a biopic ASAP.
But Bruce, Bruce Springsteen's are really interesting, like
American figure in his music is filled with like a very
entertaining music, but filled with contradictions about what
the, the, the music and the lyrics are about versus what
he's actually saying about America.
Like he's a fascinating American like cultural contradiction
because it feels like people who love him don't really always
understand him and people who really love him do understand
him. So that there's always been like
competing. I'm not a big Springsteen guy,
but I've like definitely been around people who've debated
what Springsteen really symbolizes.
And so this looks to be more of a, I don't know, kind of
meditative biopic, which is interesting.
Interesting. But apparently Jeremy Allen
White is looking like an early Oscar contender.
Which is surprising. You know, I I'm kind of like in
the middle on Jeremy Allen White.
I like him. I think it the, the elongated,
you know, tension that is happening in the bear is maybe
like hurting my, my approach to him just because he's doing the
same thing for like what, like Four Seasons now.
But he was good in Iron Claw. You know, I, I liked him.
I usually like him though, like, you know, I'm interested to see
what he would be like as a leading person.
Him and Austin Butler give off similar energy.
Yeah, they're both starring in a thriller next year, actually,
which is exciting. I think they're robbing a bang,
OK? I believe, and I think it was
Regina King recently said that they both remind her of one
another. Oh yeah, I saw that interview.
Yeah. That was a cool interview and
sentimental value, which I think did not play, but I just wanted
to add it as a movie that I was hoping would play because I
don't think it's at Venice. But it is the Yo Kim Trier movie
and probably my most anticipated Oscar prestige movie because we
love Worst Person in the World so much.
We're we're some of the most annoying people about that
movie. So there's an annoying
contingent of like, people who love that film, and we are those
people. Well, also hopefully like people
in preparation or after they see what is it, sentimental value
will go back to the Trier project.
Like he just has so much, so many interesting movies that I
think you're really underrated. It was.
Oslo, August 31st. That was really good.
Yeah. He's had a he's.
Had a prize or whatever, yes. I don't know if I'm saying.
That yeah, Reprise, I think something like that, yeah.
He's made some really good movies.
OK, So I think that's it. I'm trying to look here.
Yeah, I think that's it. That's all the movies I saw
anything about in terms of other movies that we're excited for
for the rest of the year that I haven't heard much about.
After the Hunt actually is the only movie I didn't mention,
which is getting horrible reviews and is being called
problematic by critics on Rotten Tomatoes so far, for what that
matters. Luca Guadagnino, one of my
favorite directors, is a spicy guy and he likes being in the
conversation. What that conversation is or
whether he's being nuanced about it isn't always, you know,
that's not always something he executes on.
Yeah, it's something we we said we were worried about, like when
we were talking in our Challengers and Queer episode
last year. Yeah, and he is one of the
great, like, film makers when exploring desire cinematically
and is one of the great sensual film makers when it comes to the
prickly subjects he wants to be included on and what he thinks
about certain, like, historical figures in history or in cinema
that should be like, reclaimed or not, forgotten or not
cancelled, quote, UN quote. He is not afraid to be injected
into the conversation. And I like spicy directors who
want to, like, have contemporary voices.
But this was a movie we were worried about when we heard
about it, considering it seems to be about like, a Me too
conversation and also cancel culture conversation.
So it'll be interesting to see what he does here.
It's a Julia Roberts film with IO Debris and Andrew Garfield,
and it's directed by Luca Guadagnino.
About like a college campus, like potentially sexual assault
scandal, like it is going to be a big conversation movie.
I think so. Well, especially just because
broader audiences are now aware of Guadagnino from challengers
from like Zendaya, Josh O'Connor, Mike Feist.
So, So, yeah, I think that people will go see it obviously
with Julia Roberts and like IO Debris, Eddie Garfield, which
I'm so interested to see like how he's going to use them.
Because normally like I am used to seeing like a Ray Fines or
like I told the Swinton, like people who are operating in in
his world. But it's almost like right now
he has a bunch of Drew Starkey's in this world.
Or I mean actually it is pretty similar to like having
Challengers actors with like Zendaya, like people who are
more famous and less like character actors.
Yeah, sort of like Dakota Johnson, Timothy Chalamet,
Taylor Russell, Like he he does like to find those young up and
coming actors and then try to see what he can do with their
public persona and to subvert it.
Yeah, I think he's going to try to do that with IO.
And I think IO is going to be kind of the key of that movie, I
think in terms of like what her character represents and then
how he pivots from what people expect.
That's like his whole, that's his whole thing.
And I like it. I just like directors who have a
fucking voice. And he's like one of them who's
like, loudly, like, I have a voice, you know?
He is the Ridley Scott of the artistic cinema world of like
the of, like guy of, of film makers who were like, unafraid
to say whatever's on top of their mind.
And I think they're always fascinating to listen to, even
if I don't agree with them. OK Marty Supreme, the trailer
dropped. What do you think about our boy?
I'm so excited. I, I think the trailer, like
regardless if I was like, yeah, this is going to be a, a great
movie. I do think it looks like a, a
good movie. Like it actually looks like it
has a lot going on. There's a journey in there from
this ping pong person. Timmy's acting though, in
particular was what made me a little bit skeptical.
And in terms of like, wait, what's going on?
Like he's playing this person who's overly confident.
Like. You know, ping pong player, he's
like, I never had a doubt in my mind that I'm going to rise to
the top and that his performance was strange to me, but I just
don't care. Like I'll be in any theatre for
Timothy Chalmet anytime. It was the tone of the trailer
because it was like, is this a parody like is?
It a comedy. Is it?
Yeah, it feels. A comedy, but it.
Shot like a serious sports film and so that was what was strange
about it and I think helped Safdie's interesting.
Obviously the Safdie brothers directed on cut gems and and
good times, very good film makers.
And the other happy brother has is directing a movie that's
coming out in a few weeks or or a month from now called The
Smashing Machine, which is the trailer of 2025 movies I've seen
the most. Yeah, it's playing at every
theater, everywhere across the country.
The Rock personally paid for the advertising of this, It really
did. But every time we see the
trailer, we look to each other and we're like, that looks good.
Yeah, every single fucking time I turn you and I get a little
bit emotional, I'm like, that looks pretty good.
Like I'm really blunt, little tiny, like holding the rock.
You're like, you're my big guy. Like it gets me every time.
I'm like, I'm not sure I'm going to believe Emily Blunt.
Is this fucking like American like housewife figure?
Like I don't know if I'll believe that at all, but we'll
see. Anyways, I'm really excited to
see Timothy Chalamet's version of Challengers and Marty
Supreme. So that's that's exciting and I
think that's basically it die my love, Jennifer Lawrence, Robert
Pattinson comes out in October and November.
Not many people have seen that, but obviously like we're going
to I think it's November. We're going to spend a whole
month talking about J Law and Rob Pat.
I think we're going to go like YA month on the Patreon fee.
Maybe some Hunger Games, maybe some Twilight Go.
Back to our roots. Yeah, go back to our like, you
know, young millennials just trying to like watch every YA
franchise out there. Well, I mean, really, like, you
don't think about it, But, you know, Rob, Pat and J Law are,
they're the stars of our generation.
Like they really are. Like people don't think about
them, you know? But yeah.
It is. It is like a De Niro, Sharon
Stone kind of thing, and it's kind of wild.
But they were just in Twilight and Hunger Games like that was.
And Speaking of Dylan O'Brien, like he had Divergent or wait,
Maze Runner. I'm so sorry.
Maze Runner, I'm so sorry personally to Dylan O'Brien.
Woodley and her Divergent project, Maze Runner movies.
I like OK, I stand by that. Ellen McKay to the James L
Brooks movie. Obviously we're excited for this
because we love broadcast news. We love Emma Mackie, who's
starring in this movie and has got a great cast.
Woody Harrelson, IO Debris, Rebecca Hall, Jamie Lee Curtis.
It doesn't look very good, so I'm a little worried about that.
It's coming out in December. I have faith I.
Think there was an Avatar fire and ash trailer we saw.
I think we talked about that on the Superman episode.
I don't. Think I ever saw the trailer?
Fire and ash, didn't we see it? And then we discussed it on the
Jurassic Park conversation that we had on the the Superman
versus Fantastic Four. If we did, I don't.
I'm pretty sure we did because we talked about the Odyssey
trailer. How it showed before the?
Movie. And then we also saw the Avatar
fire and ash. Trailer.
Yeah. Forgettable not I mean we're the
we're the minority there. We're not excited for that.
The drama, I'm not sure it's coming out anymore.
And I think that's it. So we've basically seen a lot of
the. Movies are 2020.
Five so far. Robert Pattinson and Zendaya, is
that or is that a different? Yes, that is that movie and I
don't know if it's coming out this year 'cause I haven't seen
anything from it. But if it does, again, just like
the Jennifer Lawrence film, like I'm we're going to be there
opening night. We're going to talk a lot about
this too. A lot of millennials becoming
superstars and then I guess the Knives Out movie which comes out
in I think November, which is very exciting too.
Joshua Connor back in theaters again.
OK, well that was the extra credits of telling you all that
you should submit some questions for our Q&A episode programming
for September and also some Film Festival updates.
It looks like all the movies that were supposed to be good
are good except for bout of a small player, which is very
exciting because people have been really down on 2025 so far.
But I think personally, this has been a really like weird,
exciting year. Like there's just a lot of
strange good movies that have been out like black bag, 28
years later, Phoenician scheme, Sinners, Weapons, Eddington,
Sorry, baby, you know, there's been like Superman, whatever.
If you're into the superhero movies, like there's been some
really like kind of, it's just a very diverse range of different
tones and different genres that film makers and studios are are
playing with this year that I that I'm happy about.
Yeah, yeah. It's been a really interesting
year so far. But we're about to go into like
my favorite season of movies, right?
Like all the hard hitters. This is my my favorite time.
It's getting cold, you know, Go to the movies.
Fall weather. Your life has changed when you
walk out, Yeah. Yeah, we just saw Harry Potter
in the theater the other night, which is really exciting.
It's kind of Harry Potter season for those people who celebrate
watching the movies around this time.
Yeah. Anyways, OK, so we'll see you
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