1 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,960 The Hello, welcome to the Extra Credits. 2 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,480 My name is Trey. And I'm Kelsey. 3 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,040 We're doing something we haven't done in years, a mailbag Q&A 4 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,320 episode. For those who follow us on 5 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,840 social, you already know we collected some great questions 6 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,040 from Instagram, letterbox, Twitter, through e-mail. 7 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,760 But we want to make sure everyone has a chance to ask us 8 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,000 something. So we thought we'd do A2, you 9 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,280 know, maybe 2 quick 10-15 minute updates on this episode today 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,960 with the Q&A and also some programming updates in 11 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,240 September. And for those questions, you can 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,880 ask anything about movies, movies in 2025, movies in 13 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:52,080 general. Yeah, we. 14 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,600 Also have a lot of new listeners from our weapons episode and 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,200 other movies that that came out this summer that we're doing on 16 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,520 the main feed. So for any new listeners or long 17 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,480 time listeners, yeah, let us know if you have any questions 18 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,320 in the Spotify comments or you can follow us on social media 19 00:01:08,320 --> 00:01:11,240 where we usually like drop that We're we're doing those 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,120 episodes. But yeah, has it been years 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:18,200 since we? Q&A I think so the beginning of 22 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,400 2024, end of 2023, it's an episode that's not on the main 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,960 feed on anymore, right? We pulled a lot of episodes off 24 00:01:23,960 --> 00:01:26,040 the main feed and a lot are going back on Patreon. 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,960 But no, I don't think we have AQ and a episode on the main feed 26 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:30,320 at all. So if you're a new listener and 27 00:01:30,320 --> 00:01:31,600 you're like, who are these people? 28 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,360 That's totally valid. And it's one of the reasons 29 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,520 we're doing an episode where you can ask us anything you want. 30 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,680 The easiest way to get questions to us would be our e-mail, which 31 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,400 is extra credit to pod@gmail.com. 32 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,680 You can find the address to that e-mail in the description of 33 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,680 this episode, as well as our other socials where you can 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,720 follow us or DM us. If you're listening on Spotify, 35 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,920 like Kelsey said, you can drop your question in the comments 36 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,560 section of this episode. And if you're a Patreon 37 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,800 listener, we'll probably put this episode on there too. 38 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,440 And you can leave a comment right under this episode or DM 39 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,120 us over on Patreon as well. Yeah, programming updates 40 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,080 outside of any questions stuff. Any more questions, stuff that 41 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,360 you want to throw out there? No, we've already gotten a good 42 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,000 amount. We've already got about 15 or 20 43 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,480 questions, a lot to work with. We already have the great ones, 44 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,400 but it's, you know, we have a lot of listeners like on Spotify 45 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,000 who I feel like might not know that we're doing AQ and a 46 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,080 episode and also you got sick if you can't hear it, listeners and 47 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,000 Trey's voice. So we're like, if we're going to 48 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,920 push it anyway, let's let's just let let everyone know so they 49 00:02:29,920 --> 00:02:32,640 can like drop us a question, but no, we can we can talk about 50 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:33,640 programming. So. 51 00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:37,520 It's been a few weeks since Weapons, which has turned into a 52 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,520 huge box office hit, taking in almost $200 million or more 53 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,920 globally at this point, and is also one of our most listened to 54 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:50,560 episodes of all time, Which isn't meant to be a flex, but it 55 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,280 can just like sit out there, I guess and sound like a flex, but 56 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,600 it's more so kind of surprising. Yeah, I I was going to say like 57 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:01,040 it is surprising just because of the type of horror movie that it 58 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,560 is like playing in Supernatural, right. 59 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:08,160 More like, I mean, Stephen King movies are popular obviously, 60 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,640 and they're it's sort of like in that sub genre of horror. 61 00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:17,080 But it's certainly something that I didn't know broad 62 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,800 audiences would like latch onto in the way that they have, which 63 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:21,440 is. Great. 64 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,920 Well, horror fans have always been really passionate about 65 00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:26,280 listening to podcasts. There's some great some of the 66 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,600 best movie podcasts are horror podcasts like Evolution of 67 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,680 Horror is one of the great, you know, movie pods to listen to 68 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,960 and I recommend that one. But you know, our most listened 69 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,400 to episodes of all time really have been Jordan Peele movies. 70 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,600 Like Jordan Peele's GOAT was our most listened to episode 71 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,800 forever. And then Barbarian was up there 72 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,920 as well. But Weapons has already like 73 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,320 become the second or #1 most listen to episode of our whole 74 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,200 podcast in three weeks, which is insane because we've had this 75 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,920 show for three years. So you can imagine how many 76 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,880 downloads accumulate over that time. 77 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:59,320 So a very special episode. We also got, you know, hundreds, 78 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,560 if not over 1000 new listeners from just that episode alone. 79 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,040 So that all those people. Hello, welcome. 80 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,440 Hi, happy to have you here. We usually put out more episodes 81 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:10,920 on the main feed. It has been three weeks since 82 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,800 anybody's heard from us. As Kelsey said, I was sick, 83 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,200 maybe still AM, for over a week now. 84 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,560 And we're also both in education, so it's the like 85 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,320 busiest time, one of the busiest times of year for us, like 86 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,360 starting a new semester. Yeah, we started up our jobs 87 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,960 again and took a few weeks off from the pod. 88 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,320 I usually get sick from the students the first week or 89 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,160 second week of school. It's also around my birthday 90 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,240 time. So it's kind of a chaotic, you 91 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,880 know, mid August era for us like every year. 92 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,600 This is just like a, a terrible time. 93 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:41,760 Like it's a fun time, but it's like a. 94 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,480 Terrible thing, and it's a terrible. 95 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,480 It's super busy. No, yeah, it's a terrible time 96 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,040 in terms of in terms of feeling guilty about not putting out 97 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,400 things on the main feed like that. 98 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,000 Yeah. But otherwise, like outside of 99 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,560 the pod, it's a beautiful time. Yes, that's true. 100 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,320 Our next main feed episode though, should be Spike Lee's 101 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,400 Highest to Lowest. We saw it a few weeks ago. 102 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,120 It's been a while. We have a lot of complicated 103 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,200 thoughts about that movie. I've been waiting to talk about 104 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,200 it with you on the podcast. And without spoiling anything 105 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,160 about that movie because it is still in this Apple TV Plus 106 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,760 limited release that is just awful for movies, it doesn't 107 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,800 release on streaming until September 5th on that that 108 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,840 streaming platform. So if you can't see the movie 109 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:30,160 yet, and we're probably going to wait until that date to release 110 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,280 our episode on this movie and you want a refresher on what 111 00:05:34,280 --> 00:05:37,800 Spike Lee is trying to do in this film, I recommend watching 112 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:43,280 or rewatching his great, you know, heist thriller Inside Man 113 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,320 from 2006, which we're covering on Patreon in a few weeks. 114 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,360 And also watching for the first time, we're re watching Akira 115 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,440 Kurosawa's masterpiece High and Low, which is a movie we just 116 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,400 covered on Patreon about a week or two ago. 117 00:05:55,840 --> 00:06:01,320 And we did an episode on that to get ready for Spikes film and 118 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,800 talk a lot about why we think that is such a great classic 119 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,440 movie and also what we were hoping to see in Spikes film 120 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,320 because we cover that episode before we saw Spike's new movie. 121 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,240 And we're putting that episode on Patreon right now for free 122 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,560 members. So you just have to sign up as a 123 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,760 free member in the description of this episode to get that 124 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,160 review. And I recommend it because I 125 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,560 think it's going to give people a lot of context for why we love 126 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,840 high and low so much and why we were so surprised highest to 127 00:06:26,840 --> 00:06:30,320 lowest. It is taking the similar mold of 128 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,440 what Carousel was doing and then adding the spikisms to it that I 129 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,440 really enjoy. But it's also kind of like 130 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,040 turning that narrative and character study into something 131 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,560 different that didn't totally work for us. 132 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,800 So I think you kind of need that context of our conversation on 133 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,240 that episode to totally get what we're going to say in our 134 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,680 highest to lowest review next week. 135 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,160 Yeah. So we want to get people access 136 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:49,880 to that for. That Yeah. 137 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:54,080 Well, so we had done high and low, right, as a, you know, a 138 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,160 Curasawa's like movie on Patreon in preparation, like you said. 139 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,160 But definitely we'll give you context because we hadn't seen 140 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,400 like Spike Lee's movie yet, right? 141 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,440 And he doesn't call it a remake. He calls it like a re 142 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,880 imagination. A re interpretation, A remake. 143 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,120 He's just a lot of. Different words. 144 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,800 He just doesn't want. To yeah, be clear that it's not 145 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,360 like a remake. And I've seen a lot of movie 146 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,960 critics also talk about how we shouldn't compare Spike Lee's 147 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:25,120 movie to high and low, but we aren't necessarily like coming 148 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,200 from that point of view. Because obviously, like if if 149 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,680 you're redoing a movie in any capacity, like you can take it 150 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,560 in different routes or, or kind of like put a new lens on it, 151 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,320 especially since it's set in the US, right? 152 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,840 But there were certain things I think that we talked about on 153 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,920 that that pod. Sometimes when we do our Patreon 154 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,080 pods, especially our number one boy episodes, which are kind of 155 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,760 like classics. I forget what we said, but I do 156 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,760 remember us saying something about like, there are a few 157 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,480 things that could really like mess this movie up in terms of a 158 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,000 remake or or whatever, you know what I mean? 159 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,600 Like redoing it in any way. And some of those things like 160 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:11,040 happened to like kind of a a huge surprise to me, right? 161 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,880 And I think to you that like Spike took it in that direction 162 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,280 and and we'll talk about that because, you know, we recently 163 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,520 like re watched a lot of his movies. 164 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,760 And so it's interesting to track like different ways that he'll 165 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,440 tackle like similar themes that he does in highest to lowest. 166 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,080 So yeah, we'll, we'll talk about that. 167 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:33,000 But I think it's definitely helpful to one watch the movie 168 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,120 to even know like kind of what the source material is getting 169 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,039 at and what I think is so successful at. 170 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,559 But then also, I think, you know, before even seeing highest 171 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,720 to lowest, we're like, this is the only thing that could go 172 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,480 wrong. And like, you know, while we did 173 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,680 like highest to lowest, there were like those things that I 174 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:52,560 was surprised to see. I'll leave it at that. 175 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:57,520 Thematically and through what perspective we see in the story, 176 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,880 those are the big changes made that I was surprised about in a 177 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,000 vacuum and also in comparing it to the the classic, obviously. 178 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,480 So yeah, I recommend seeing it in the movie theater if you can 179 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,760 over this next week until it comes out and streaming or 180 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,960 however long it's going to be in theaters because obviously we 181 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,480 want to support any movies that are going to theaters and not, 182 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:19,120 you know, at home on our couch. I also think watching this movie 183 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,280 at home on your couch will be a bad time. 184 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,240 I think a lot of people will turn highest to lowest off after 185 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,880 45 minutes and they'll come back to it after another night 186 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,920 because the 1st 45 are are the pacing is slow and it's tough to 187 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,000 watch at home, I would assume, because even in the theater, you 188 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,760 could feel people in the crowd being like, is this like 189 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,640 subversive? Why is it moving in this 190 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,200 direction? Why are they using the score in 191 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,880 that way? I'm getting a little sleepy. 192 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,200 And that's not everybody, obviously, but we'll talk, you 193 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,120 know, we're being intentionally vague so we can move on, but 194 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,760 we'll, you know, I, I recommend people go and listen to that 195 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,440 high and low episode. So go ahead and sign up in the 196 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,680 description. Episode, I think unless you're 197 00:09:52,680 --> 00:09:55,400 someone who is like really interested in how Spike Lee is 198 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,640 like making movies and how like everything's shot and all the 199 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,280 choices, like we are like broader audiences might feel the 200 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:03,720 pacing. That's a good way to frame it. 201 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,960 If you're a Spike Lee head, you're going to love, Yeah, 202 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,720 everything about it, right? And we are Spike Lee heads. 203 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,680 But we're also like movie review pods, Potters, whatever we do 204 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:15,200 here. Whatever it is that we're doing. 205 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,800 So that Lee episode will be out soon. 206 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,120 We also considered covering Darren Aronofsky's Caught 207 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,520 Stealing 'cause we had like a super early like critics 208 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,440 screening to that. And we've been thinking about it 209 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,320 for a while and then forgot about it because it is sort of a 210 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,560 forgettable movie. It is a silly, fun, Austin 211 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:36,240 Butler action comedy and it is a type of movie that we ask for 212 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,080 all the time. Yeah, that's true. 213 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,800 But it kind of sucks that I have no interest in like covering it 214 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,440 for 30 minutes. Yeah, well, I think we'll 215 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,200 probably end up talking about it like on our end of year pod, 216 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,120 right. But I I'll say one thing, OK, 217 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,520 long time listeners know that I'm not an Austin Butler person. 218 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,440 In fact, I kind of like really bump against the Austin Butler 219 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:02,440 fame because I don't want like be Brad Pitt kind of like 220 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,320 infiltrating the movie space. I don't want like models, right? 221 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,400 Like coming into the movie space and. 222 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,720 You're not connected to his like press runs or anything like 223 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:12,600 that. You don't really know how he 224 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,720 talks. To me, you know, put a bad taste 225 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:16,520 in my mouth. You're. 226 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,200 Playing as a performer though, because as a person in his like, 227 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,080 interviews and the way he speaks to people and like how present 228 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,600 he is, like I've been taken over by the Austin Butler. 229 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:25,680 The charm. Experiment. 230 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:30,400 Because he's so charming and so present and what, seemingly so 231 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:34,960 just, well, I don't know, calm. Yeah. 232 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,000 He's. Like he's media trained but also 233 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:42,280 it feels like he is actually maybe like a nice person and he 234 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:43,360 cares. And you really don't know. 235 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,240 Yeah, we don't really care also about celebrity, right? 236 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,320 Like there are certain celebrities, I love their kind 237 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,320 of persona and like the the way that they interview, which we've 238 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,880 talked about. But yeah, no, like even that I 239 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,080 don't, I don't really find it charming. 240 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,000 Like I, yes, like I, I'm like, OK. 241 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,280 Seems like a nice guy if you're like, nice. 242 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:05,040 But like, but I'm not like whoa, I'm yeah, it's. 243 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,200 Very charismatic to. You by his like his cool guy 244 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,400 energy of like just being, you know, calm and like what I I 245 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:20,440 think like for me, I've just been on the the kind of side or, 246 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,120 or maybe this is just only me. It's a a few people in my corner 247 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,760 being like, I don't want to see Austin Butler starring in my 248 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,960 movies, like leading my movies. I'd love to. 249 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,280 See him as. A character and. 250 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,560 Then. Yeah, yes. 251 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,360 So like I thought in Eddington, that was a perfect place to use 252 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,320 him. But anyway, the whole the whole 253 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:38,640 reason I'm kind of going on this. 254 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,320 Is. Pivot of of Austin Butler is 255 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,280 that I was actually surprised that I liked him and caught 256 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,160 stealing and I think like this is where again like he could be 257 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,840 used as a leading man. All the Austin Butler people 258 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,280 don't come for me. I don't care enough to even like 259 00:12:54,280 --> 00:13:00,200 have the conversation, but I I feel that I feel that, you know, 260 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,560 fade Rotha. He was good in Eddington. 261 00:13:03,560 --> 00:13:06,520 He was good caught stealing. I I liked him right. 262 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:11,480 I thought he was like an interesting kind of trying to 263 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,760 get through life. There were some emotional things 264 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:18,160 that were trying to be really the backdrop of this character 265 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,680 that that just because of the filmmaking itself and the where 266 00:13:21,680 --> 00:13:23,320 they were introduced in the pace like didn't work. 267 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,880 But he did his best and I was not bothered by Austin Butler 268 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,440 was what I was trying to I was trying to be. 269 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:28,760 I was trying to give a compliment. 270 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:33,000 OK, Austin Butler was here, but Zoe Kravitz, OK, Can we just 271 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,960 talk about Zoe Kravitz in this movie? 272 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,960 She's amazing. She's the reason to see it, you 273 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,800 know, and I think that she's not well used or not used as much as 274 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,880 she should be in the movie. But I do think her and Austin 275 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,240 Butler have such good chemistry in the small amount of screen 276 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,920 time, surprisingly, that they have in this movie. 277 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,960 But when they're on screen together, you're like, holy 278 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,040 shit. Like, I get it. 279 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,120 And it, like I said, this is the kind of movie that we were 280 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:04,520 asking for so much where we get pulpy, silly thrillers that are 281 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,600 about, like, Drifters who mean well but are like, suffering 282 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,520 from, like, this trauma in their childhoods or whatever. 283 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:12,920 And that seems like an overused theme. 284 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,680 But when done in this kind of like Coen brothers meets 285 00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:18,840 Scorsese after hours tone, it's kind of exciting. 286 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,400 Except by the end of the movie, you're like, that was 30 minutes 287 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,920 too long. There's too much going on. 288 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,240 And I really will forget about this by tomorrow. 289 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,840 Or at least that's how I felt, unfortunately. 290 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,360 Which was surprising because Aronofsky is like, turned 291 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,640 himself into this provocateur, you know, auteur film maker. 292 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,200 But this movie didn't feel emotionally provocative to me at 293 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:38,760 all. Yeah, I agree. 294 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,760 I think there were. There was some like stuff to cut 295 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,840 for sure. But ultimately it was like a fun 296 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,280 time at the movies. But yes, very forgettable. 297 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,680 So I think that's why we just decided not to allocate our time 298 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,320 to covering it in full. Yeah, the writing isn't as good 299 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,720 as you'd want it to be. The next movie I want to talk 300 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,040 about that we might cover is the new Conjuring film, which comes 301 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,520 out this upcoming week, the first week of September, 302 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,000 September 5th, I believe. I think it's supposed to be the 303 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,120 last one. OK. 304 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,520 But like, I never know whether to believe that in the marketing 305 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,240 or not. We just rewatched the original 306 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,280 Conjuring last night. We did. 307 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:16,880 It rips. It's amazing. 308 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,200 It's very, very good. Yeah, I usually don't like 309 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,640 possession films. I mean, we did The Exorcist a 310 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,960 while back. Was that on Patreon? 311 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,000 One of my favorite episodes? Yeah, I think we did. 312 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,800 We covered it for. We did Rosemary's Baby on 313 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,480 Patreon but Exorcist was maybe main feed and then we took it 314 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,320 off. Maybe I'll put it on for Patreon 315 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,320 for Halloween. Yeah, OK, well, anyway, one of 316 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,360 my favorite episodes and I am not usually into either 317 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:46,040 supernatural or ghost movies, but I think The Conjuring has so 318 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,600 many good scares and makes you feel so uneasy. 319 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,880 I maybe, maybe I can convince Trey to to do it this year. 320 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,680 I don't know if we'll have time in the the schedule for 321 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,480 Halloween. Yeah, we're pretty busy the next 322 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,920 two months on Patreon, but it would be really fun. 323 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,120 We're going to watch the second one tonight, probably as we prep 324 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:09,200 for our Spike episodes. So Conjuring might cover that 325 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,840 white boy of the century, Dylan O'Brien, not the, you know, the 326 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,880 group he doesn't belong to the the group of white boys you 327 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,040 don't like, which is the Austin Butler, the Glen Powells, the 328 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,000 the. Jacob Lordies. 329 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:24,800 Dylan O'Brien Safe, I think in the mind of Kelsey, yes, Dylan 330 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,600 O'Brien starring in a movie called Twin Lists, which I 331 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,960 believe is like a queer love story, like tragic comedy that's 332 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,160 coming out this week, which I'm really excited for because it's 333 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,640 gotten great reviews, especially his performance. 334 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,240 So stoked to see that. So maybe we'll cover that or 335 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,400 maybe it'll be a random episode. Coconuts film. 336 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,400 A Big, Bold, Beautiful Journey comes out in two weeks, starring 337 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,040 Colin Farrell and Margot Robbie. Not sure what to expect. 338 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,080 I watched the like 15 seconds snippet where they're just kind 339 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,280 of like in a car together with awkward dialogue. 340 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,360 And in Coganata, I trust, you know, like because he's made 341 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,840 some really cool movies and he's a really experimental, 342 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,079 economical filmmaker with a lot of fun sci-fi surrealist ideas. 343 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:08,079 And so it seems like he's leaning in that direction, but 344 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:10,119 it also feels a little bit like he's making a musical or 345 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,000 something. Yeah, well, I feel like Margot 346 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,599 Robbie's a really interesting. I mean, get Margot Robbie, you 347 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:17,920 know, in any movie you can. Best actor in the world. 348 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:23,040 But I think that her tone is really interesting in a Coganata 349 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,680 movie. Like I like I like Colin Farrell 350 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:30,160 in his work, especially when we think of like after Yang or but 351 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,440 so yeah, it it looks like an interesting tone. 352 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,760 It kind of looks similar to like the life of Chuck tone. 353 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,680 Oh yeah. So I don't know which I didn't 354 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:42,120 see, but people I guess liked. Yeah, people did. 355 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,200 It was divisive. Yeah, it was divisive, but 356 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,920 people who loved it loved it. And then at the end of 357 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,880 September, we have PTA, one battle after another. 358 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,320 We're certainly covering that. I think we'll do a few PTA 359 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,320 episodes in September. That's the hope. 360 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,520 At least. That's the goal. 361 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,160 We'll see how that goes because again, of our jobs and how busy 362 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,360 we've been, but that's basically it. 363 00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:02,720 So we have a Spike Lee movie coming out and we'll be covering 364 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,600 that next week. We might do Conjuring. 365 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,640 We probably we'll think about doing something in between in 366 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,360 the middle of September, maybe APCA ranking episode or 367 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:14,280 something like that, and then a deep, deep dive of 1 Battle 368 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,240 after another at the end of this month. 369 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,200 And then on Patreon in September, we're going to be 370 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,760 going into the Paul Thomas Anderson. 371 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,640 Project so excited it's. Probably Boogie Nights, probably 372 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,800 there will be blood. It's going to be a lot of fun. 373 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:28,800 So that's the Q&A, that's the programming that I want to talk 374 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,640 about for September and what's coming up. 375 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,560 And the Q&A should be coming out in the next few weeks to make 376 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,640 sure to get your questions in ASAP. 377 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,320 Do you know anything about what's going on right now with 378 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,000 the festivals? I don't. 379 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,640 I actually forgot that some of them were happening until I 380 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:46,040 started seeing pictures like being posted of stars on the red 381 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,520 carpet. Yeah. 382 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,280 So we have. There's been some good red 383 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,600 carpet stuff. I've seen that as well. 384 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,040 But we have Venice and Telluride going on at the same time. 385 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,720 We live in Colorado, didn't do Telluride. 386 00:18:57,120 --> 00:18:58,720 One of these I want to do it next year. 387 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,280 I'd like to as well. It's kind of the worst timing to 388 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,440 do something like that because of our schools. 389 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,680 So I want to just run through some of the good stuff and bad 390 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,320 stuff. The pros and cons of these Film 391 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,400 Festival so far. I'm not sure what movies are 392 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,800 playing where, but this is just what I've collected off the 393 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,320 Internet, off Twitter, off Letterboxed, Guillermo del 394 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,920 Toro's Frankenstein. And by the way, I should say we 395 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,280 did a 30 most anticipated movies of this year and all of these 396 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,080 movies I'm about to bring up, we're on that list. 397 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,920 So if you have not listened to that episode, go back on our 398 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,120 main feed and listen to that episode. 399 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,400 But Guillermo del Toro's Frankenstein was a movie that we 400 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,600 are both a little bit skeptical of because we're not super into 401 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,040 like the reimagining of Gothic worlds, you know, that new era 402 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:37,960 of like reimagining gothic worlds that we're entering into. 403 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,480 But it's del Toro who's a master Craftsman. 404 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,000 And apparently this movie rocks. And Jacob Allordi as 405 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,200 Frankenstein is really great. And Oscar Isaac is also just 406 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,840 kind of giving a really rich magnetic performance in it as 407 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,320 well. And they were really fun, the 408 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,160 red carpet, I saw both of them together, Oscar Isaac, one of 409 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,080 the most gorgeous looking people in the world. 410 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,960 So I'm excited for that. Because I did not expect it to 411 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,760 be get great reviews, especially because it looks to be a more 412 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,560 kind of direct, you know, it's the Del Toro world building, but 413 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,640 it is also Frankenstein. And like, it looks to be more of 414 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,880 a direct adaptation of the Shelley novel versus what we 415 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,600 just got with like poor things, you know, two years ago, which 416 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,320 was such a, like, subversive twist on that narrative. 417 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:23,200 Yeah, well, I wonder if it's more so like, what's? 418 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,360 Oh my gosh, I'm blanking on the water. 419 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,040 Oh, shape of water. Shape of Water, it could be or 420 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,120 if it's more like a nightmare alley, right? 421 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:35,440 And like those are kind of the two directions I feel that like 422 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,720 this could go so. I'm interested. 423 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,680 It's looking like Pan's Labyrinth a little bit to me, 424 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,560 but I would love it if it was Nightmare Alley, the next one 425 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,480 that's did surprisingly really well. 426 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,360 I'm not gonna talk about the ovations and like people 427 00:20:46,360 --> 00:20:47,960 standing up for 10 minutes because I think it's really. 428 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,000 Strange. Yeah, but Yorgos Lanthimo who 429 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,120 also. Like starts the timer you. 430 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,280 Know very, very weird. Yorgos Lanthimos is Begonia, 431 00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,520 which is starring Emma Stone and some other great actors like 432 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:05,120 Jesse Plemons is apparently very, very good, a dark comedy, 433 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:08,600 conspiracy satire. Emma Stone shaves her head. 434 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,160 She's been really good and funny in interviews about being like, 435 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,400 that's not really what my performance is about. 436 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,120 This is like actually a pretty physical performance. 437 00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:16,840 Has nothing to do with me shaving my head. 438 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:20,760 That's not a big deal. But she has been really 439 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,240 interesting and press talking about the politics of this 440 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:24,360 movie. So I'm excited to have an 441 00:21:24,360 --> 00:21:26,880 episode on that one. The last length of most movie I 442 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,960 saw was not very good. I know you didn't see that one. 443 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,720 Oh yeah, I didn't check out Kinds of Kindness. 444 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,640 Yeah, kind of tough. Noah Baumbach's J Kelly, George 445 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,840 Clooney apparently is excellent in this. 446 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,960 Adam Sandler, apparently also very good. 447 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,080 So that's exciting. That was a movie I was a little 448 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,920 bit worried about because I haven't seen George Clooney in 449 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,600 Something good in a long time, but an actor that we both like 450 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:50,200 for the end of his career. Yeah, I think he you know, I 451 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,840 hope that towards the end of his career, he's like embracing less 452 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,600 of the ticket to paradise, Although I know people love to 453 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:02,560 see like him and Julia Roberts and ROM com and more so of like 454 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:08,080 the a Cohen's brother, like weirdo burn after reading like 455 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,960 embracing that side of him, which I think hopefully would 456 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,880 would be what he's doing in a bomback world. 457 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:20,680 And then also just before we move on from Lanthimos, I am 458 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,600 interested to see like what Emma Stone does in that role, but 459 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:28,120 just so excited to see Jesse Plemons like become one of one 460 00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:30,560 of the people, the great weirdos, the great. 461 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:34,000 Weirdos of cinema. Truly the mastermind. 462 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,200 Kelly Reichardt. Josh O'Connor. 463 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,200 So excited. He's one of my guys. 464 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,520 I know he's one of both of our guys, but certainly like one of 465 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,760 your favorite actors. Haven't heard anything about 466 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,720 this but fantasy. Just logged on letterbox 5 467 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,760 minutes ago. Gave it a heart and was like 468 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,080 Kelly Reichardt did it. OK. 469 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,880 So I'm excited. I think it's going to be good. 470 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,480 And Josh O'Connor is obviously like one of the most interesting 471 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,560 dramatic actors working right now. 472 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,880 So it, it's, it's cool pairing the two of them, especially 473 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,920 because it's like a heist, you know, drama, which is definitely 474 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,680 right up our our lane. Ham knit a movie. 475 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:13,120 I was not very excited for CLO Zhao making ham knit, which is a 476 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:19,560 kind of a Shakespeare story and it is starring Jesse Buckley and 477 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,040 Paul Meskel, 2 actors. I really like a director who I 478 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,120 who I've liked in moments. I'm not a huge nomad land 479 00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:30,120 person, so I wasn't overly excited for this, but every 480 00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:33,600 review that I've seen in Red is just saying it's the best movie. 481 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,000 Adventist or Telluride, wherever it's playing, it'll probably win 482 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,320 all the awards. So people think it's like going 483 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,960 to be a very big deal and it's like a devastating movie 484 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,000 emotionally. So that was kind of surprising 485 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:50,560 because it looked kind of like elevated and not, you know, 486 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,080 grounded. I didn't watch anything about 487 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,160 this. So yeah, I didn't. 488 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,600 I don't know. So I don't really know what to 489 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,200 think about it. I'll have to text some people 490 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,000 and ask. Ballot of a small player is 491 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,200 getting horrible reviews. Edward Berger movie, which is 492 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,200 too bad. That's sad. 493 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,480 Yeah, that's the Colin Farrell film where he's like in debt 494 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,560 until the Swenson's like, chasing him all over the world 495 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,600 or something, which sounds like a great plot. 496 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,160 Well, after Conclave I think I had such high hopes. 497 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,800 Yeah, I think we both bought stock of Edward Berger and his 498 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,560 project after a remake nobody asked for of All Quiet in the 499 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,120 Western Front. But it was like really well made 500 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:23,240 and experimental and interesting and some great performances that 501 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,160 Berger got out of his actors. And then Conclave similarly, 502 00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:28,160 kind of Mean Girls meets the Vatican. 503 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,240 Very, very exciting, almost underrated at this point looking 504 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,240 back at it. And I guess it was nominated for 505 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,040 best Picture, but it felt like it came and goes to hit Netflix 506 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,920 so quickly. And then bout of a small player. 507 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,560 Apparently it's going to lean more into like the surreal in 508 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:44,720 moments. Maybe that's why it doesn't 509 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:45,440 work. I don't know. 510 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,880 Apparently the tone doesn't work in the movie is what I what I 511 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,360 read. I think from Ehrlich, Ehrlich, 512 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,360 Springsteen, deliver me from nowhere. 513 00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:57,360 This movie looked horrible in the trailers. 514 00:24:57,360 --> 00:25:01,400 It feels like Jeremy Allen White is doing a biopic because 515 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,440 Timothy Chalamet did his of Bob Dylan and it felt like. 516 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,640 The timing was another like young one in here. 517 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,440 Be Timothy Chalamet that we can get into a biopic ASAP. 518 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,680 But Bruce, Bruce Springsteen's are really interesting, like 519 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:18,720 American figure in his music is filled with like a very 520 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,720 entertaining music, but filled with contradictions about what 521 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,320 the, the, the music and the lyrics are about versus what 522 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,520 he's actually saying about America. 523 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,360 Like he's a fascinating American like cultural contradiction 524 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:29,520 because it feels like people who love him don't really always 525 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,720 understand him and people who really love him do understand 526 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,120 him. So that there's always been like 527 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:34,840 competing. I'm not a big Springsteen guy, 528 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,640 but I've like definitely been around people who've debated 529 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,640 what Springsteen really symbolizes. 530 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,480 And so this looks to be more of a, I don't know, kind of 531 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,640 meditative biopic, which is interesting. 532 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,360 Interesting. But apparently Jeremy Allen 533 00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:49,720 White is looking like an early Oscar contender. 534 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:54,000 Which is surprising. You know, I I'm kind of like in 535 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,080 the middle on Jeremy Allen White. 536 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:01,120 I like him. I think it the, the elongated, 537 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,640 you know, tension that is happening in the bear is maybe 538 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:11,040 like hurting my, my approach to him just because he's doing the 539 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,960 same thing for like what, like Four Seasons now. 540 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,480 But he was good in Iron Claw. You know, I, I liked him. 541 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,560 I usually like him though, like, you know, I'm interested to see 542 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,080 what he would be like as a leading person. 543 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,640 Him and Austin Butler give off similar energy. 544 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,520 Yeah, they're both starring in a thriller next year, actually, 545 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,440 which is exciting. I think they're robbing a bang, 546 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,040 OK? I believe, and I think it was 547 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,360 Regina King recently said that they both remind her of one 548 00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:42,800 another. Oh yeah, I saw that interview. 549 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,920 Yeah. That was a cool interview and 550 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,080 sentimental value, which I think did not play, but I just wanted 551 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,120 to add it as a movie that I was hoping would play because I 552 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:55,720 don't think it's at Venice. But it is the Yo Kim Trier movie 553 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:00,120 and probably my most anticipated Oscar prestige movie because we 554 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:02,280 love Worst Person in the World so much. 555 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,400 We're we're some of the most annoying people about that 556 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,800 movie. So there's an annoying 557 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,120 contingent of like, people who love that film, and we are those 558 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:11,720 people. Well, also hopefully like people 559 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,360 in preparation or after they see what is it, sentimental value 560 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,560 will go back to the Trier project. 561 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:25,200 Like he just has so much, so many interesting movies that I 562 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,200 think you're really underrated. It was. 563 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,120 Oslo, August 31st. That was really good. 564 00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:30,720 Yeah. He's had a he's. 565 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,240 Had a prize or whatever, yes. I don't know if I'm saying. 566 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,640 That yeah, Reprise, I think something like that, yeah. 567 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,040 He's made some really good movies. 568 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:43,480 OK, So I think that's it. I'm trying to look here. 569 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,880 Yeah, I think that's it. That's all the movies I saw 570 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,800 anything about in terms of other movies that we're excited for 571 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,040 for the rest of the year that I haven't heard much about. 572 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,880 After the Hunt actually is the only movie I didn't mention, 573 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,040 which is getting horrible reviews and is being called 574 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,760 problematic by critics on Rotten Tomatoes so far, for what that 575 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,720 matters. Luca Guadagnino, one of my 576 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,400 favorite directors, is a spicy guy and he likes being in the 577 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,160 conversation. What that conversation is or 578 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,240 whether he's being nuanced about it isn't always, you know, 579 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,680 that's not always something he executes on. 580 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,480 Yeah, it's something we we said we were worried about, like when 581 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,440 we were talking in our Challengers and Queer episode 582 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,080 last year. Yeah, and he is one of the 583 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,200 great, like, film makers when exploring desire cinematically 584 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,960 and is one of the great sensual film makers when it comes to the 585 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,080 prickly subjects he wants to be included on and what he thinks 586 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,000 about certain, like, historical figures in history or in cinema 587 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,640 that should be like, reclaimed or not, forgotten or not 588 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,960 cancelled, quote, UN quote. He is not afraid to be injected 589 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,840 into the conversation. And I like spicy directors who 590 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,400 want to, like, have contemporary voices. 591 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,560 But this was a movie we were worried about when we heard 592 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,080 about it, considering it seems to be about like, a Me too 593 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,760 conversation and also cancel culture conversation. 594 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,320 So it'll be interesting to see what he does here. 595 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,280 It's a Julia Roberts film with IO Debris and Andrew Garfield, 596 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,200 and it's directed by Luca Guadagnino. 597 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,440 About like a college campus, like potentially sexual assault 598 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,440 scandal, like it is going to be a big conversation movie. 599 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,480 I think so. Well, especially just because 600 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,920 broader audiences are now aware of Guadagnino from challengers 601 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,320 from like Zendaya, Josh O'Connor, Mike Feist. 602 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,920 So, So, yeah, I think that people will go see it obviously 603 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,480 with Julia Roberts and like IO Debris, Eddie Garfield, which 604 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,200 I'm so interested to see like how he's going to use them. 605 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,840 Because normally like I am used to seeing like a Ray Fines or 606 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:41,760 like I told the Swinton, like people who are operating in in 607 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,320 his world. But it's almost like right now 608 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,320 he has a bunch of Drew Starkey's in this world. 609 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,600 Or I mean actually it is pretty similar to like having 610 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,160 Challengers actors with like Zendaya, like people who are 611 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,160 more famous and less like character actors. 612 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,400 Yeah, sort of like Dakota Johnson, Timothy Chalamet, 613 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,840 Taylor Russell, Like he he does like to find those young up and 614 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,200 coming actors and then try to see what he can do with their 615 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,000 public persona and to subvert it. 616 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,720 Yeah, I think he's going to try to do that with IO. 617 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,840 And I think IO is going to be kind of the key of that movie, I 618 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:13,880 think in terms of like what her character represents and then 619 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,280 how he pivots from what people expect. 620 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,920 That's like his whole, that's his whole thing. 621 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,960 And I like it. I just like directors who have a 622 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,560 fucking voice. And he's like one of them who's 623 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,880 like, loudly, like, I have a voice, you know? 624 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,080 He is the Ridley Scott of the artistic cinema world of like 625 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,000 the of, like guy of, of film makers who were like, unafraid 626 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,440 to say whatever's on top of their mind. 627 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,560 And I think they're always fascinating to listen to, even 628 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,360 if I don't agree with them. OK Marty Supreme, the trailer 629 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,360 dropped. What do you think about our boy? 630 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,280 I'm so excited. I, I think the trailer, like 631 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,840 regardless if I was like, yeah, this is going to be a, a great 632 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,480 movie. I do think it looks like a, a 633 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,320 good movie. Like it actually looks like it 634 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,560 has a lot going on. There's a journey in there from 635 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,800 this ping pong person. Timmy's acting though, in 636 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,840 particular was what made me a little bit skeptical. 637 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,080 And in terms of like, wait, what's going on? 638 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,840 Like he's playing this person who's overly confident. 639 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,280 Like. You know, ping pong player, he's 640 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,160 like, I never had a doubt in my mind that I'm going to rise to 641 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:20,560 the top and that his performance was strange to me, but I just 642 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,480 don't care. Like I'll be in any theatre for 643 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,240 Timothy Chalmet anytime. It was the tone of the trailer 644 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,120 because it was like, is this a parody like is? 645 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,160 It a comedy. Is it? 646 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,960 Yeah, it feels. A comedy, but it. 647 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,560 Shot like a serious sports film and so that was what was strange 648 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,000 about it and I think helped Safdie's interesting. 649 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,440 Obviously the Safdie brothers directed on cut gems and and 650 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,080 good times, very good film makers. 651 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,440 And the other happy brother has is directing a movie that's 652 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,280 coming out in a few weeks or or a month from now called The 653 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,480 Smashing Machine, which is the trailer of 2025 movies I've seen 654 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,400 the most. Yeah, it's playing at every 655 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,200 theater, everywhere across the country. 656 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,240 The Rock personally paid for the advertising of this, It really 657 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:57,800 did. But every time we see the 658 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,840 trailer, we look to each other and we're like, that looks good. 659 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,520 Yeah, every single fucking time I turn you and I get a little 660 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,720 bit emotional, I'm like, that looks pretty good. 661 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,560 Like I'm really blunt, little tiny, like holding the rock. 662 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,200 You're like, you're my big guy. Like it gets me every time. 663 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,000 I'm like, I'm not sure I'm going to believe Emily Blunt. 664 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,280 Is this fucking like American like housewife figure? 665 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,160 Like I don't know if I'll believe that at all, but we'll 666 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,000 see. Anyways, I'm really excited to 667 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,400 see Timothy Chalamet's version of Challengers and Marty 668 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,680 Supreme. So that's that's exciting and I 669 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,320 think that's basically it die my love, Jennifer Lawrence, Robert 670 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,000 Pattinson comes out in October and November. 671 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,600 Not many people have seen that, but obviously like we're going 672 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,400 to I think it's November. We're going to spend a whole 673 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,760 month talking about J Law and Rob Pat. 674 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,080 I think we're going to go like YA month on the Patreon fee. 675 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,560 Maybe some Hunger Games, maybe some Twilight Go. 676 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,720 Back to our roots. Yeah, go back to our like, you 677 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,920 know, young millennials just trying to like watch every YA 678 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,680 franchise out there. Well, I mean, really, like, you 679 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:01,000 don't think about it, But, you know, Rob, Pat and J Law are, 680 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,960 they're the stars of our generation. 681 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,200 Like they really are. Like people don't think about 682 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,880 them, you know? But yeah. 683 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,680 It is. It is like a De Niro, Sharon 684 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,600 Stone kind of thing, and it's kind of wild. 685 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,760 But they were just in Twilight and Hunger Games like that was. 686 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,240 And Speaking of Dylan O'Brien, like he had Divergent or wait, 687 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,600 Maze Runner. I'm so sorry. 688 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,480 Maze Runner, I'm so sorry personally to Dylan O'Brien. 689 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,160 Woodley and her Divergent project, Maze Runner movies. 690 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,280 I like OK, I stand by that. Ellen McKay to the James L 691 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,960 Brooks movie. Obviously we're excited for this 692 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,920 because we love broadcast news. We love Emma Mackie, who's 693 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,320 starring in this movie and has got a great cast. 694 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,600 Woody Harrelson, IO Debris, Rebecca Hall, Jamie Lee Curtis. 695 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,280 It doesn't look very good, so I'm a little worried about that. 696 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,400 It's coming out in December. I have faith I. 697 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,240 Think there was an Avatar fire and ash trailer we saw. 698 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,960 I think we talked about that on the Superman episode. 699 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,440 I don't. Think I ever saw the trailer? 700 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,680 Fire and ash, didn't we see it? And then we discussed it on the 701 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,480 Jurassic Park conversation that we had on the the Superman 702 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,720 versus Fantastic Four. If we did, I don't. 703 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,200 I'm pretty sure we did because we talked about the Odyssey 704 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,600 trailer. How it showed before the? 705 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,160 Movie. And then we also saw the Avatar 706 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:07,880 fire and ash. Trailer. 707 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,440 Yeah. Forgettable not I mean we're the 708 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,679 we're the minority there. We're not excited for that. 709 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,159 The drama, I'm not sure it's coming out anymore. 710 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,600 And I think that's it. So we've basically seen a lot of 711 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:21,520 the. Movies are 2020. 712 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,800 Five so far. Robert Pattinson and Zendaya, is 713 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,080 that or is that a different? Yes, that is that movie and I 714 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,960 don't know if it's coming out this year 'cause I haven't seen 715 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,400 anything from it. But if it does, again, just like 716 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,440 the Jennifer Lawrence film, like I'm we're going to be there 717 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,320 opening night. We're going to talk a lot about 718 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,600 this too. A lot of millennials becoming 719 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,520 superstars and then I guess the Knives Out movie which comes out 720 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,040 in I think November, which is very exciting too. 721 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,800 Joshua Connor back in theaters again. 722 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,760 OK, well that was the extra credits of telling you all that 723 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,639 you should submit some questions for our Q&A episode programming 724 00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:57,560 for September and also some Film Festival updates. 725 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,480 It looks like all the movies that were supposed to be good 726 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,160 are good except for bout of a small player, which is very 727 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,560 exciting because people have been really down on 2025 so far. 728 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,000 But I think personally, this has been a really like weird, 729 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,360 exciting year. Like there's just a lot of 730 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,280 strange good movies that have been out like black bag, 28 731 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,960 years later, Phoenician scheme, Sinners, Weapons, Eddington, 732 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,040 Sorry, baby, you know, there's been like Superman, whatever. 733 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,560 If you're into the superhero movies, like there's been some 734 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,240 really like kind of, it's just a very diverse range of different 735 00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:31,720 tones and different genres that film makers and studios are are 736 00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:33,840 playing with this year that I that I'm happy about. 737 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,120 Yeah, yeah. It's been a really interesting 738 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,320 year so far. But we're about to go into like 739 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,080 my favorite season of movies, right? 740 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,200 Like all the hard hitters. This is my my favorite time. 741 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,480 It's getting cold, you know, Go to the movies. 742 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,520 Fall weather. Your life has changed when you 743 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,360 walk out, Yeah. Yeah, we just saw Harry Potter 744 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,520 in the theater the other night, which is really exciting. 745 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,280 It's kind of Harry Potter season for those people who celebrate 746 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,000 watching the movies around this time. 747 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,480 Yeah. Anyways, OK, so we'll see you 748 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:05,720 guys soon. We have to go and record an 749 00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:07,920 episode on Dog Day afternoon on Patreon. 750 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,280 So if you want to hear more from us, log on to Patreon, sign up, 751 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,040 listen to High and Low for free and all those other free 752 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,280 episodes we have for free members. 753 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,080 Peace out, guys. Bye.