1 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:19,200 The Welcome back to the Extra Credits. 2 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,360 It's the end of February and today's episode is going to be a 3 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,240 little bit different. The plan is to talk about 3 new 4 00:00:25,240 --> 00:00:28,040 movie releases and Withering Heights, How to Make a Killing 5 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,600 and Crime 101 while also catching up on everything we've 6 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,600 been watching lately from movies to TV. 7 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,240 I'm Trey. I'm Kelsey. 8 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,480 We are doing a lot on Patreon right now. 9 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,560 We're covering Sinners with our second deep dive on that movie. 10 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,800 We covered it when it first came out, and our listeners over on 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,720 Patreon voted for us to cover that film versus all the other 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,520 Best Picture nominees, which is cool because Sinners is the most 13 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,040 nominated film of all time, which is insane and awesome. 14 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,440 And we're going to be doing a deep dive on that film tomorrow 15 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,560 morning, probably. And then the other Patreon 16 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,519 episode we're recording this month is going to be our first 17 00:01:05,519 --> 00:01:09,360 annual Extra Credits Cup. What does that consist of? 18 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,920 Still figuring it out it looks. Like it's going to be like that. 19 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,840 What does that mean? I I still don't know. 20 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:19,560 Sort of a best of episodes, sort of a Olympics style themed March 21 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,680 Madness bracket thing. I don't know. 22 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:22,960 We'll see. We'll see how it goes. 23 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,280 It's going to be a lot of like US juggling a lot of different 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,560 ideas in different movies live on the podcast. 25 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,360 I'm ready for it. Also, quick reminder at the top, 26 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:34,560 follow us on TikTok. Link in the description. 27 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,920 I've been posting a lot more over there. 28 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:42,280 Short reviews, movie news reactions, jumping into some 29 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,080 film discourse. I probably shouldn't be just for 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,360 the, I guess, the sanity of myself. 31 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,280 Yeah, go follow Trey on TikTok. It's a hard job, everyone, to 32 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,720 put yourself out there on an app. 33 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,280 It's actually not hard at all. It's like, press the big red 34 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,080 button, press it again. But I feel like I would feel 35 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:07,280 particularly vulnerable being on TikTok talking about something 36 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,280 by myself. So I think you're doing a great 37 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,760 job and you should follow Trey. I like watching your videos. 38 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:14,840 I yeah, well, I appreciate that. I feel like you have to say 39 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,080 that, but those videos from TikTok are also on Instagram. 40 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,360 So for those of you who don't have TikTok, they're on Insta. 41 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,120 One of our listeners shout out busy recommended that to us and 42 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,320 we were like, that's a great idea. 43 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:27,720 We will do that. I was like, I don't know if 44 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,920 Instagram can take my long ass 7 minute TikTok video, but it did. 45 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,320 So thank you Insta. So we haven't recorded in a long 46 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,360 time, but it's I think it's been like 3 or 4 weeks, but the 47 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:40,640 Oscars are right around the corner. 48 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:43,080 We were going to wait to just do that Oscars kind of prediction 49 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,560 or reaction episode. But as we're getting closer and 50 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,800 closer to the end of February, we thought there's a lot of 51 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,280 interesting movies coming out right now. 52 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,200 Maybe this would be a good time to talk about what we've been 53 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,480 watching lately and also these new releases. 54 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:58,760 I'm also just getting excited because it's already starting 55 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,680 off with it just a really weird but fun year in movies. 56 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,960 Like, I like going to the theater right now and I don't 57 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,360 remember having that same experience at the beginning of 58 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,160 2025 where I think it took a little bit longer for us to get 59 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,720 better movies. And having 28 years later, Part 60 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,520 2, crime one O 1, the discourse around Wuthering Heights, which 61 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,200 I think is interesting. There's just a lot of people 62 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,600 wanting to go to the movies right now, which I find to be 63 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:23,920 really fun. Like we went to go see How to 64 00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:25,400 Make a Killing. How to Make a Killing. 65 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:26,400 Is that what it's called? Yeah, Yeah. 66 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,600 Last night. And it was a packed, sold out 67 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:29,440 theater on Friday night. I. 68 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,640 Think we're having a good time? Or at least one guy was. 69 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,880 There was one guy behind me who just kept laughing at every 70 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,840 other joke. And I laughed with him. 71 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,720 Not because I thought the jokes were funny. 72 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,480 I thought like 50% of them were funny, but he was really funny. 73 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,280 Yeah. Trey was like, I wish that guy 74 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,240 was in every theater experience. He would just, like, make 75 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,320 everything better. Better yeah, but yeah, I will 76 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,880 say for, you know, the the year starting out, it's like pretty 77 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,880 medium strong, which is positive. 78 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,640 Like that's great. Usually these couple months is 79 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,520 just like not great movies. We're always like, what should 80 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:07,800 we cover in this weird spell like from end of year to Oscars? 81 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,880 So yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm having a lot of fun too. 82 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,200 And I'm not complaining that like, these are the best movies 83 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,079 I've ever seen. Like we did send help on the 84 00:04:17,079 --> 00:04:20,160 main feed and I was like, yeah, that was just a good time. 85 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,160 Forgot about it. Yeah, that was a really good 86 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,800 time. Which I want to talk about send 87 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,720 help in comparison to how to make a killing today because I 88 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:34,040 feel like they're similar tiered movies but but yeah, so I I 89 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,840 agree like it's been really fun. But for listeners to another 90 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:41,000 reason to follow us on TikTok is Trey has been going to see the 91 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,000 movies and he's like getting to them quicker. 92 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,560 So if you want to hear our thoughts, besides obviously like 93 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,920 following us on Letterbox, Trey's telling you his thoughts, 94 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,200 but also. Basically. 95 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,240 Yeah, on TikTok, so you can like get our take our our review like 96 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,280 sooner and then listen to the the main feed later. 97 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:01,840 On Yeah, for example, some new releases that are coming out or 98 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:03,600 have come out already around the country. 99 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,400 Nirvana, The Band, The Show, The Movie and Pillion. 100 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,600 I'll be going to see both of those this week and I'll 101 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,360 probably have some videos on that coming out pretty soon. 102 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,840 The new Scream film releases on Thursday this week and we love 103 00:05:14,840 --> 00:05:17,320 the Scream franchise. I'm not really sure if we're 104 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,880 going to cover that one. I think after the Melissa 105 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:24,080 Barrera firing, we just were like, what the fuck? 106 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,360 And so I don't, I'm not really sure how we're going to handle 107 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,160 that or we'll see where we land on that. 108 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,040 I think it would be fun to do like a Scream ranking video. 109 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,080 So I might do something like that to revisit maybe the Scream 110 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,320 movies just to rank them leading up to this new one. 111 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,880 That would be fun. OK, before we get into this trio 112 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,720 of movies and Wuthering Heights Crime 101, How to make a 113 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,360 Killing, I want to talk about what we've been watching in 114 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,080 February because this is always our most busy month in our 115 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,520 careers. I feel like like our actual jobs 116 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,040 with your PhD and teaching and then me with teaching high 117 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,720 school, but also our most busy month watching all the movies we 118 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,480 missed from 2025 because we're starting to finish off our list 119 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,520 of everything that we missed on our watch list. 120 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,560 So we can have this like full ranking of a top 15, top 25, 121 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,040 whatever movies. So we can prepare for that big 122 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,160 episode on the main feed probably at the beginning of 123 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,000 March. So we've been seeing a lot. 124 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,960 So I thought we'd go through some of these these films we've 125 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,600 been watching starting off. Most recently we watched How to 126 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,080 How to Make a Killing, obviously. 127 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,640 I keep you like I'm like, especially since I just said 128 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,800 send album like sent OK, how to make a killing. 129 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,240 I know it's killing me or I'm like also. 130 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:37,480 I think it's a bad title. We grew up with how to lose a 131 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,080 guy in 10 days. Like the the how, Yeah. 132 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,080 How to make a killing is a lot to do. 133 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,880 I understand. It's like a play on how to make 134 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,000 a living. Yeah, I get it. 135 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,000 Yeah. But it is a lot for my mind to 136 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,080 for some reason. And also kill. 137 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:57,560 Yeah, OK, one of them days, the Keke Palmer movie after this 138 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,480 film, which is sort of like an interesting blend of like 139 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,720 illusions to Spike Lee's Do the Right Thing. 140 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,840 And also the Friday films, which I haven't seen that kind of 141 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,760 comedy energy in a long time, and mainstream movies, which is 142 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,680 really cool. Very refreshing. 143 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,360 I think Keke Palmer might be a comedic genius. 144 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,960 She's so good. She's incredible. 145 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,160 She's just so funny. There's so many great one liners 146 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,080 in this film. So if you've not seen this movie 147 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,480 even though it's been out for basically a year now, please 148 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,840 check it out. Train Dreams. 149 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,160 Well, wait, also, Scissor was like, Scissor was great. 150 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,440 I thought. Like their friendship together 151 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,680 was great. Yeah. 152 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,560 And the guy who played her boyfriend was really funny, 153 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,800 especially his introduction. That was great. 154 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,640 I went straight to Train Dreams just because I got excited. 155 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,200 There's always a movie every year that I like being a hater 156 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,160 about that is well liked. You know, for a lot of people in 157 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,800 2025, that was Hamnet. People liked to hate Hamnet. 158 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,560 And to those people, I say fuck you. 159 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,960 Hamnet was my favorite movie. Just kidding, though, about the 160 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,160 FU, but Train Dreams is that movie for me. 161 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,880 I really did not like this film. Yeah, I, I, I think I hated it. 162 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,080 We'll we'll not say too much about this movie because we'll 163 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,560 certainly talk about it on our end of your list because we'll 164 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,920 just come into the conversation. I guess maybe if we do like an 165 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,040 Oscars, you know, episode. But yeah, I mean, I wasn't 166 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,080 really interested in it either. I think when it started out, I 167 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,840 was like, oh, wow, this has a lot of potential. 168 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,880 I was interested in it, but there's like only, you know, so 169 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:34,919 much I could really like latch onto in the like continuous like 170 00:08:34,919 --> 00:08:38,760 rehashing of what we saw in the very beginning that wasn't 171 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,320 really deepened. And so it I don't know, I 172 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,040 understand, I guess why people felt a connection to it because 173 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,520 it felt like this kind of like hypnotizing experience, but it 174 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,760 just like was not a movie that either of us kind of like latch 175 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,520 onto. It's I when you're saying like 176 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,800 people love to hate Hamnet this year, I feel like it's similar 177 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,440 to how we kind of felt about like the Brutalist last year 178 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,560 where it was like, I understand like the stylistic things that 179 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:08,440 people are watching onto and it is ambitious in that sense. 180 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,840 The bigness of the score. The scope of the story. 181 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,480 But it felt like, what are we really talking about here? 182 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,200 Like when we get down to what's going on in the movie. 183 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,240 And so yeah, we'll, we'll, I guess we'll talk about it more 184 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:21,760 in our kind of like we won't discussion. 185 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,840 We won't no so I. Mean we're only going to do our 186 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,240 top what, like 15 or something? Something like that, I haven't 187 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:27,880 decided yet. Maybe top 20, I don't know. 188 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,200 Maybe, maybe top ten, I don't know. 189 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,040 OK, so it won't make our top, it won't make our top 20? 190 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,000 So even to be fair, I I think this movie is objectively well 191 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,600 crafted with like some really pretty imagery, sometimes even 192 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,000 like really beautiful imagery. And I think there are some solid 193 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,600 performances in it. But I felt like it was just a 194 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:50,400 hyper polished streaming era. I called it a consignment store 195 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,640 movie on our letterbox review, like basically the TJ Maxx of 196 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:58,360 movies where I felt like it was so over designed, overly safe. 197 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,040 It was like eat pray love the movie to a certain degree for 198 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:05,240 me. And I hate when movies pretend 199 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,160 that they're doing something profound in their character 200 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,960 studies to not actually do anything that's confrontational. 201 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:14,080 And I just felt so non confronted by it or unconfronted 202 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,200 by it. It reminded me a lot of 203 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,160 Nomadland, a close house movie from a few years ago. 204 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,080 And as far as it being like, here's some like anti capitalist 205 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,440 critiques, here's some class commentaries, here's some maybe 206 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,680 like colonial commentaries. And then sort of never really 207 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:30,040 leaning hard enough into the really confront or provoke the 208 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,920 audience. And I found that to be like 209 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,960 weirdly dulling. Well it's because both of those 210 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,560 movies like sympathize way too heavily with this kind of like 211 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:43,200 white seemingly caring yet ultimately like apathetic person 212 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,120 who doesn't really like do things about the things they 213 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,160 feel guilty about. Half indictment on its own 214 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,880 character. Yeah, So they they feel like, 215 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,520 OK, like, you know, the kind of end message of this movie is 216 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,880 supposed to feel like this like beautiful connection to 217 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,520 everything. And, you know, it's not it is 218 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,600 interesting in a, in a way that we used to get this kind of 219 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,840 message in like more religious movies. 220 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,960 And this was more so like we return to the earth and are like 221 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,440 all a part of something larger. Yeah. 222 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,760 But yeah, that that kind of thing just I don't think works 223 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,720 for us. We're like, the world is burning 224 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,080 right now. And so it feels like I don't 225 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,440 really care about seeing Joel. But it's contending with that. 226 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,120 I mean, that's a big part of it. The world burning is like a 227 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,480 theme in the film. And like him contending with 228 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:38,520 his, I guess his, I guess his space in that part of history 229 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,000 and how he, I like how he feels seen in that part of history and 230 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,680 accepting his life as something special nonetheless of his, 231 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:48,840 like, tragedies, I guess. But I just found it, like, not 232 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,400 very convincing. Yeah. 233 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,840 So I think we, we felt very similar about it. 234 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,600 But I mean, I, there were moments where I was like, oh, I, 235 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,720 I feel very at peace. Like because of the nature, you 236 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,640 know, montages. Yeah, I don't know, There was 237 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,000 like a weird Wes Anderson kind of narration to it throughout 238 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:06,320 the. Film. 239 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,280 Oh yeah, it did start out very like. 240 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,480 And it was trying to be Terrence Malick, but it couldn't. 241 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,200 Yeah, I don't. Yeah. 242 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,080 I just felt like it was not good. 243 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,480 And I just don't understand. I don't understand what? 244 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:17,600 What? All the five stars. 245 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,840 I don't understand the Best Picture nomination and yeah, I 246 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:22,960 don't know. That's my take. 247 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,720 I don't like train dreams. That's I guess that's our hot 248 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,280 take of the year. Yeah, well, I really didn't like 249 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:29,320 it. You were just like, it's OK. 250 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,960 Well, I was like, it's I got up to like do things around the 251 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,280 house while we were watching it. Like I was still being, I was 252 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,480 still watching it, but I was like, because we had to watch 253 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:39,600 it. Like it's something that I was 254 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,080 really surprised that so many people were like, this movie is 255 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,000 great because I if I were watching it alone, I probably 256 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,400 would have turned it off. No, I yeah. 257 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,520 Well, which we have done with a lot of movies we started in 2025 258 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,080 that have been pretty disappointing where we're like, 259 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,120 trying to rush through our watch list to get to everything before 260 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,560 it's just too late in the 2026 or too far. 261 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,600 Predator Badlands, did you watch any of this with me or is it 262 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:02,640 just me? I did not. 263 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:08,560 I saw like one of the most action or I guess kind of like 264 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:13,120 where the movies turns not to. I guess I won't spoil anything. 265 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,280 It's a Predator movie, so yeah, there's a lot of action in it. 266 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,280 Oh. OK, so I could have come in on 267 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,080 the one, but it felt like I was coming in at like a huge, like, 268 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,520 character shift like that. Like Elle Fanning figured out 269 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,280 who she was and what she was like, made for. 270 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,360 So like, I only saw that part of it. 271 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:30,840 Yeah, that was it. How was? 272 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,200 It well, she's got like a twin. It's kind of confusing. 273 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,720 So you might have seen well. She's an Andrew or whatever. 274 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,960 She is a microfast vendor. She's a David, Yeah. 275 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:41,880 So it's David and Walter meeting each other. 276 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaking of movies that I've been a hater on last year, the 277 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,600 year before or the movie I hated the most was Alien Romulus 278 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,120 because I really despise the Disney ification of my beloved 279 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:56,280 like Alien and Predator IP is like Predators like Alien 280 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,480 adjacent IP and so is Blade Runner. 281 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,640 I just really don't like how they've made the most 282 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:06,600 existential blockbusters that are deeply anti capitalist in 283 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,080 our deeply philosophical and questioning about what is human 284 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,560 and what is not and now they've just become like cute and silly 285 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,840 adventure movies where every human being is fucking annoying. 286 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,440 It were predator, the predator movies not really any human 287 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,200 beings. But then the AI are like the 288 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,080 sympathetic fun figures and like I just think that's insane to 289 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,880 me. Like I don't understand why AI 290 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:30,960 is being made to be friendly in movies like. 291 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,080 It's like the wild robot. The Wild Robot, The camp 292 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,320 companion, That horror movie from the last year with Sophie 293 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,080 Thatcher. I mean that one. 294 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,400 Happened the creator little bit more. 295 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,480 John David Washington But yeah, there was like a there was a 296 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,160 critique against misogyny and and the creation of AI, but 297 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,120 ultimately it was like AI forward and I was just like, 298 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,280 very. I don't know. 299 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,760 I just find it really considering the whole franchise 300 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,040 is built on Waylon Yutani, the Disney, Walmart, you know, 301 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,920 franchise or corporation taking over the universe. 302 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:06,080 Like I I find that to be really alarming that these movies are 303 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,360 just turning into like Waylon Yutani products. 304 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,360 OK, Some other things I watched or we watched together. 305 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,400 Twin lists Twin list was one of the big surprises. 306 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,920 It was I had, I wish we caught it like when it came out so we 307 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,480 could have done an episode on it because I think that's a movie. 308 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,840 We would have been like, let's go on the mikes right now. 309 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,840 Yeah, I think it's one of the funniest movies that came out 310 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,160 this year. I think right there with what's 311 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,720 the film that we just talked about last episode, the comedy 312 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,240 that we watch, the relationship comedy. 313 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,560 Oh, Splitsville. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 314 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,320 I think those are the two funniest movies I've seen this 315 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,960 year. I was hoping that that movie 316 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,720 Sacramento would be really funny because it stars Kristen Stewart 317 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,080 and Michael Cera. Michael Cera among other really 318 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,000 good actors, but that was not very good. 319 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,400 But yeah, this was great. Dylan O'Brien's wonderful. 320 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,760 I thought it was really cute, really dark, really weird, has 321 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:02,360 some really hilarious scenes. Interesting, like masculinity 322 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,960 conversation with Dylan. O'Brien's one of his twins in 323 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:07,720 that film. So yeah, definitely recommend 324 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,480 watching that movie. Some great Sims content for our 325 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,000 generation. Although I don't know is Gen. 326 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:18,880 Z and Gen. alpha Like are they playing Sims? 327 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:23,600 They're doing a lot of Roblox, which is like great value. 328 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:29,000 Sims Roblox is basically like, yeah, I don't know, it's like 329 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,240 generic video games, like where everybody can create their own 330 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,560 video games basically on their own servers. 331 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,560 So if you can't afford to play like a $60.00 video game, you 332 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,240 just make it on Roblox and you play with your friends. 333 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,440 Interesting. But it's an that's like an open 334 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,360 world to like you play with people everywhere. 335 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,680 Yes. OK, so it's like Xbox Live of 336 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:53,120 our generation, but in terms of the The Sims, the isolation of 337 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,040 playing Sims. I guess it would be Minecraft. 338 00:16:56,080 --> 00:17:00,200 I'm sure now they're probably like is a Sims version where 339 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,839 people like play Sims live but like in a city or something. 340 00:17:04,839 --> 00:17:07,280 I'm pretty sure Sims is still like one of the biggest like PC 341 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:09,920 games. Anyway, just a great, a great, I 342 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:16,119 guess, interrogation of the text of Sims in this person's life. 343 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:21,000 A great incorporation of Sims. There is one scene, and this is 344 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:25,079 not a spoiler, but maybe just a cell, where Dylan O'Brien like 345 00:17:25,079 --> 00:17:28,480 speaks in The Sims language. And there's just a lot. 346 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,440 There's a lot of great things going on in this movie. 347 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,640 Yeah, it is. It is an interesting movie to 348 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,480 double feature with Train Dreams because they're both about 349 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,520 realizing that you're not the main character and that you 350 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,240 might just be like an MPC. Like you're just like a side 351 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,560 character and you're in reality and like dealing with that in 352 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,560 different ways. Either like having existential 353 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:48,240 breakdowns and acting like you had somebody close to you die so 354 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,360 you can meet people in therapy verse verse sitting in your 355 00:17:52,360 --> 00:17:54,560 tragedy and wallowing potentially for your entire 356 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,840 existence. So like, yeah, it's an 357 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,520 interesting double feature about a similar idea. 358 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:01,800 The Lost Bus was a movie I watched. 359 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,560 You did when I was sick and you were. 360 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,480 Out of the house. So interesting when I so I I 361 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:11,880 left to go, I think to Galatines and I was like, what are you 362 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,920 going to watch? And you're yeah, you're sick. 363 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,120 And you were like, I'm going to throw on this Matthew 364 00:18:17,120 --> 00:18:19,480 McConaughey movie. Well, I never turn on Apple TV 365 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,480 Plus and I was going through the apps and I was like, what am I 366 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,080 missing? Knows that this movie exists. 367 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,760 Yeah, And there was a movie called Eden on Netflix that came 368 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,040 out this year that I hadn't seen. 369 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,880 And I was like, oh, the director's interesting, Ron 370 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,240 Howard, so maybe I'll watch this. 371 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,080 And then I saw The Lost Bus and I was like, I mean, Matthew 372 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,760 McConaughey, America Ferrera I was like, maybe this is like a 373 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,760 speed situation. Keanu. 374 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,320 Sandra Bullock It was not that. In fact, there was a lot of 375 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,200 missing chemistry between these two actors. 376 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,320 Matthew McConaughey is driving a bus for two hours, basically. 377 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,800 And I didn't hate it, which was weird. 378 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,480 It was actually kind of surprising because I think we 379 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,720 just have a lack of good disaster thrillers. 380 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,680 It was sort of our relationship to Greenland when we watched 381 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,400 that from a few years ago where I was like, oh, this is pretty 382 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,160 good because we just don't have this, you know, sub genre of 383 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:07,840 movies anymore. We. 384 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,280 Don't have any day after tomorrow's. 385 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:10,640 Right. Which I love. 386 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,600 Yeah. Which I think honestly is a 387 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,080 classic in the disaster genre. But this was like a really bad 388 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,880 screenplay. They try to create some drama 389 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,760 where the sun's like, Dad, I hate you. 390 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,840 And Matthew McConaughey is like, why these this generation? 391 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:24,440 They just like hate adults for no reason. 392 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,800 And he goes off on his bus for two hours to help people. 393 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,920 And it's really strange because it's about a very like real life 394 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,520 heroic story of somebody who does drive a bus for a living 395 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,000 going to save a bunch of people. But it's so dramatically inert, 396 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,280 like it's feels hollow. Is it partially because you 397 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,640 can't Unsee Matthew McConaughey in this role? 398 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,640 Yeah, you definitely don't believe he would be in this 399 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:45,600 position. You're like. 400 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,760 Seeing him making a casting decision for himself to play a 401 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,400 savior. Yeah, and it just has like that 402 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,360 Apple TV Plus gloss where every time I go on Apple TV Plus and I 403 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:57,080 do try to turn on something, I'm like, oh, I realize why they 404 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,320 don't, you know, I know that their whole models, I'm not 405 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,400 going to license any of our properties to anybody else. 406 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,120 They all come to us. But every time I turn on one of 407 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:05,320 their, you know, projects, I'm like it all looks the same. 408 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,480 It's sort of what's happening to Netflix, like the RIP, which I'm 409 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,440 not going to get into that because I think we already did 410 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,400 that in a recent episode. I think we did, yeah. 411 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,400 You know what I was thinking about just mentioning the day 412 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,160 after tomorrow and then thinking about Apple TV plus the the 413 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,440 project that I did like, Although again, like I had my 414 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,480 surgery, so I was like needed a show. 415 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,640 But I loved presumed innocence. Loved is a strong word. 416 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,200 I loved it for that moment in time. 417 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,360 Is this? A tooth come out soon. 418 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,440 Oh yeah, they're making a second season. 419 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,200 That's so weird. Who knows what they could? 420 00:20:36,360 --> 00:20:39,560 This summer, I think it's Game of Thrones and it's House of 421 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,280 Dragon and Presumed. Innocence. 422 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,280 That's wild but I both of those shows literally got me through 423 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,920 my surgery. I was like, I wonder if I'll 424 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,560 actually like them going back to them without. 425 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:51,600 And The Great British Bake Off. And well, The Great British Bake 426 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,640 Off I, I literally said to myself because I was going to 427 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,640 watch it to go to bed the other night and I was like, I got to 428 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,560 save it in case I have another spine surgery one day. 429 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:02,560 That's dark. I'll save these seven other 430 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,160 seasons. I don't think that's actually in 431 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,960 the future for me, but I was like just just in case That was 432 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,480 the only thing that I could like I loved. 433 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,880 I literally, you know, for listeners who are the real ones 434 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,960 out there when you listen to the the episode that I came back 435 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,960 after recovering from my surgery for like 3 months. 436 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,440 Sure, it's the first episode on our feed. 437 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,320 Right Now quite literally cried at the end of every British Bake 438 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,440 Off. I was so, so happy for the 439 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,640 person who won the real season in. 440 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,680 Particular we should have took some notes while watching it. 441 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,960 Oh, there was one season that my parents came and we made them 442 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,200 watch it and my dad was like. He was locked in. 443 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,080 This is gross. Yeah. 444 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,640 That was that was a great season. 445 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:48,040 There was like an unexpected younger guy who who kind of like 446 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:53,960 really rose rose through the the ranks of the British bake 447 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,960 offers. OK, so back to anyway, my point 448 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,240 is I was thinking of Jake Gyllenhaal. 449 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,480 I was thinking of presumed innocent. 450 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,960 And I was just thinking about like, why don't people talk 451 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,280 about Jake Gyllenhaal in Okja? It just like that's it. 452 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,800 Oh, his performance. Yeah, that's that's what you're 453 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,480 thinking of. I do like when Jake Gyllenhaal 454 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,640 accepts himself as like a silly man who looks like he should be 455 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:21,360 like a model and he's just has like this, like crazy absurd 456 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:22,600 chaos. He's like, really? 457 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,320 Pretty, but he's just like, yeah. 458 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,200 Something off wild yeah. And I find it weird that when he 459 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,480 puts that into like I'm going to do he. 460 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,160 Plays into his like massive eyes. 461 00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:32,720 Yeah, but I just don't like when he does. 462 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,360 Like I'm going to do like right wing American Movies Now. 463 00:22:35,360 --> 00:22:37,160 I think that's why I was thinking about it in terms of 464 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,120 Matthew McConaughey. It was like it came to mind 465 00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:42,960 because because it feels like he started picking roles in that 466 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:43,960 lane. What do you think about the 467 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,760 Matthew McConaughey, Timothy Shalamet interview? 468 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,960 I really was like, I the only thing I really saw was when 469 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:56,520 Matthew McConaughey basically like dropped, but I was like, 470 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:01,120 this is going to become a, a news piece of of Kylie Jenner 471 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:03,480 taking to me. But she called like his 472 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,880 girlfriend taking to me to an interstellar iMac surprise 473 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,480 screening for his birthday. And to me was like, I can't 474 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,280 believe you just fucking did that because like, do you know 475 00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:16,720 who my girlfriend is? Like which it seems like Matthew 476 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,640 McConaughey is probably not online so. 477 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,760 Yeah, I guess Shalom. In his head, he was like, you 478 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,320 just created so much content for people. 479 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,880 Yeah, it's a cute birthday present though. 480 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,480 It is cute because it is the movie that he talks about the 481 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,560 most of being like fuck this has inspired me to be like kind of 482 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,000 an asshole in the press because I want to be the best. 483 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,640 Because I got cut out of Interstellar except for like 2 484 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,480 scenes. I also did see a clip where he 485 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,920 like, wouldn't let it go that Matthew McConaughey had said 486 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,240 he'd only seen Interstellar once, and I wonder if that came 487 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,720 after dropping the Kylie Jenner thing because he just like, 488 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,200 wouldn't let Matthew McConaughey move on. 489 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:55,000 McConaughey and Shalomme beefing on CNNN Yeah, ballerina on a de 490 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,600 armas you. Only watch this. 491 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,120 Taking over the John Wick franchise. 492 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,880 Good cool. I thought it was. 493 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,440 Good. Was it set mostly in the that 494 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,640 kind of like place that we see John Wick go back to where he 495 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,240 grew up? They go to it a continental 496 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,240 adjacent location in the city, OK, at the beginning of the 497 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,400 movie, they then they do some like crazy set pieces where it 498 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,680 feels like they're in this like the middle of a snow globe. 499 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,120 There's like a bar that looks like a snow globe and that 500 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,000 they're in for a bit and some cool Ana de Armis like action 501 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,640 performance moments and then they go to another place where 502 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,200 it's snowing a lot. It feels like a James Bond map. 503 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,480 Then she's doing something else and like a layer, like, I don't 504 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,200 know, there's a lot of, there's a lot of strange set pieces. 505 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,480 I don't know if it's really well directed, but a lot of the 506 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,600 action set pieces are really fun. 507 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,520 And Ana de Armas is really convincing as somebody who can 508 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,760 beat the fuck out of like 20 people in A room. 509 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,320 I mean, she was so fun in James Bond. 510 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,880 Like when she showed up I was like, wow, she's so convincing 511 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,520 that she could just like, agreed, kill everyone here. 512 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,640 Yeah. And also, like, she's always 513 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,200 been like a very underrated dramatic actress since Knives 514 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,960 Out. And it's sad that she hasn't 515 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,880 gotten a lot of roles. And I think it's a lot of the 516 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,720 reason mostly being because Hollywood won't cast somebody as 517 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,080 English being their second language. 518 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:17,560 But in her case, like I think in this franchise, it allows her to 519 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,760 be able to have those dramatic moments, but also do some like 520 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,120 non dialogue stuff, which is just like be Keanu Reeves and 521 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:27,120 slow beat people up in a very specific way. 522 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:29,840 Like her way is like more UFC. Keanu Reeves is more like my 523 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,320 knee is falling off my legs. So I guess I'll just like as I'm 524 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,160 falling on the ground, I'll shoot you three times in your 525 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,240 kneecap. But so it's a little bit 526 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,520 different. But yeah, I really recommend 527 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,040 this movie. I think it was under scene 528 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,280 within the. I can't say. 529 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,840 OK, yeah, I won't say. Oh, wow. 530 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,520 OK, well, I'm excited to watch it. 531 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,440 I thought she was great. I always think she's like a a 532 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,160 really great. We talked about this on Knives 533 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,360 app. But she like is the reason I 534 00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:55,520 think that movie was so successful and is it's not 535 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,120 talked about that way, you know, like the ensemble cast is so 536 00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:00,280 good. But yeah, her dramatic acting is 537 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,600 so good. She's a great crier. 538 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,680 Yeah, and even when, you know, she's like in Blade Runner or 539 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,560 something, right? Like, she adds so much to the 540 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,880 movie, even in a role where she's like an AI character where 541 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,480 that, like, doesn't have a character. 542 00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:17,400 So cool. OK, I'm glad it was good. 543 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,600 Underrated, underrated aspect of the beginning of her career 544 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,120 where she's like literally learning English on set as she's 545 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:24,920 doing Blade Runner 2049 and Knives Out which is just insane 546 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,360 to me. OK, Kyoshi Kurosawa's Cloud. 547 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,800 So this is a director that we talked about last year for 548 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,200 Chime, which is one of the best films of last year, even though 549 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,560 it was only like 50 minutes long, a little longer than 550 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:36,560 what's supposed to be a short film. 551 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,800 I still haven't seen that, but you and Adam Naman talked about 552 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,800 that when he came on, right? And that was one of his favorite 553 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,480 movies of the year. Too, Last year we tried our best 554 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:51,680 to, I guess, over intellectualize it and theorize 555 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,600 what it was about or what the ideas were about. 556 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,680 I mean, Kyoshi Kurosawa seems to be like modernity sucks and 557 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,960 that's like kind of a three line of his career from Cure and on. 558 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,520 And Cloud was a lot of fun. Very strange experience. 559 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,480 This will be, I think, on our list, I assume. 560 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,120 So I think we'll talk more about that then. 561 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,280 I agree, I think it will show up on our list, or at least very 562 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:17,200 least honourable mentions. Relay was a Riz Ahmed Lily James 563 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,960 crime thriller, a very tight like light, dramatic, very 564 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:28,360 expensive looking streaming adjacent movie where Riz Ahmed 565 00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:34,760 is doing his best Al Pacino and Lily James is like just jumping 566 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,080 out of the screen. Like I love her. 567 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,120 I kind of have a little bit of a cinematic crush on her. 568 00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:40,800 She's a really good actor and has really good taste because I 569 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,000 like a lot of the movies she does. 570 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,800 But every time she is acting the movie, I'm like, I'm having 571 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,280 that. I like having a nostalgic. 572 00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:48,840 I think it's like I think I attach a lot of I project a lot 573 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,880 of Rachel Vice on her. She reminds me of Rachel Vice. 574 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,400 I don't know what exactly that is, but as a kid I had a huge 575 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,640 crush on Rachel, Vice and the and The Mummy, and I'm getting a 576 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,280 lot of that from Lily James. That makes sense. 577 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,920 That's interesting. She's great. 578 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,880 I was thinking, because I didn't totally watch this movie, I was 579 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,720 doing work on the couch next to you while you were watching it, 580 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:14,320 and I felt like it was a role that, like, Angelina Jolie would 581 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,160 have been casting in the 2000s, right? 582 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:19,760 That is something like she like she was in a James McAvoy movie. 583 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,760 What was that film Angelina Jolie and James Mack wanted? 584 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,600 Yeah. I was also thinking, like salt, 585 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,440 yes, like movies like that, right? 586 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,840 Is like basically what this movie Tourist was that would, 587 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,480 yeah, that would show up in theaters. 588 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,320 Yeah, wow, good call. I thought it was a pretty 589 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,120 interesting movie. Hated the ending. 590 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,360 Called it at the very beginning. Yeah, how it was going to. 591 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:39,360 End. And I was like, I don't think 592 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,560 so. Yeah, I was going to be. 593 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,920 So it was like, I'm going to be so disappointed if this is how 594 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,880 it ends because it's such a bad idea and they did it. 595 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,640 But I like the first hour and 15 all right Next, a really 596 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,040 exciting, happy movie. If I had legs, I'd kick you. 597 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,120 Yeah. An extremely upsetting movie. 598 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,280 All time bad hang child performance in this film from an 599 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,320 unseen child as a teacher or like as teachers. 600 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,000 I gotta say like one of the reasons I do this job is because 601 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,760 I like want to invest in the youth as much as possible and 602 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,280 future generations. But this kid performance 603 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,720 definitely made me question my career when I was like, oh fuck, 604 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,720 this is like, yeah, this is like my worst day I've ever had in 605 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:21,400 teaching. I'm like. 606 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,240 Projecting on the screen, I think, you know, I would say 607 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,720 that it's a movie. We don't have kids. 608 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,560 It's a movie that would make you question parenting 100%. 609 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:35,160 But it is certainly for people who don't really understand like 610 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,800 what education really entails and what like teachers jobs 611 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:44,520 consist of in public schools is a really good representation of 612 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,120 what teachers are like feeling like every day. 613 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,120 It's not obviously like taking care of like a soul child or 614 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,920 being a caregiver, which I know is like a separate thing that 615 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,880 the movie is exploring. But I would say like the the off 616 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:03,960 screen like voice that is looming and it's like consistent 617 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,040 like shit happening. And that's just at work. 618 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,520 Like you also have to like deal with things outside of work, 619 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:15,520 like you're ceiling caving in. I would say that it was a pretty 620 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,200 good representation of like what teaching can feel like in where 621 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,520 you're really doing like 20 jobs at once. 622 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:27,080 Yeah, Rose Byrne. Great. 623 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,880 Yeah. Do what I say. 624 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,040 Like, you know, that I enjoyed my experience. 625 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,680 No, you know, we'll talk about this movie. 626 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,400 It'll probably be in the top 20. Well, I. 627 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,400 Don't know if we're going to do a top 20, but it would 628 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,680 definitely be an honorable mention. 629 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,320 So we'll talk a little bit more about it then and like 630 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,400 specifically. Love category this year. 631 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,560 It's exactly how I. Felt when I left I my love, I 632 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,200 was like, I almost like wish I didn't spend my night doing 633 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,800 that. Yeah, we kind of put the movie 634 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,480 off for a while because we were like to downer. 635 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,720 Yeah. Do we want to engage in a feel 636 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,920 bad product? And like it's it does feel like 637 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:02,160 a wasted night. It is funny though. 638 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,440 It has moments. Like, I don't want to spoil 639 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,600 who's in the film. There's two supporting actors in 640 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,240 it who are playing off of Roseburn who are really funny 641 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,760 with her, even if sad sometimes that's true, so. 642 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,920 There and Roseburn. Is like a comedically really 643 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,800 gifted actress and so she's able to do something dramatically 644 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,840 powerful here that not a lot of people expect from her. 645 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,200 And I think they actually think of her more as a comedy actress 646 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,160 and she's able to do both. This is like a dark, tragic, 647 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,240 tragic comedy in some ways. Yeah. 648 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,320 I mean, I think she's great. Like it's a special performance, 649 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,000 yes. And and that was like. 650 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,760 Me talking about my personal relationship to watching movies, 651 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,920 like I don't love, you know, experiencing like a feel bad 652 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,160 movie all the time, like a dime I love but and like if I had 653 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,200 legs, I kick you, but obviously like a super well made movie. 654 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,320 And also I I think like was doing something similar to dime 655 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,720 my love, which was interesting. But if I had legs, I kick you 656 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,520 worked a little bit more. And I think that also had to do 657 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,560 with Rose Byrne. Yeah, loved J Law, you know, and 658 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,160 die my love. She might have given the best 659 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,440 performance of the. Year J Law wasn't even 660 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,760 nominated. They're also like. 661 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,080 Doing different things. Yeah. 662 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,560 Yeah. Exploring like parent 663 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,200 parenthood? Sort of. 664 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,080 Yeah. Exploring parts of motherhood. 665 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,960 But I'll also say, just like exploring a loss of agency and 666 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,200 being kind of drowned out by the expectations of motherhood and 667 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,360 like, yeah, expectations. And then like lack of support, 668 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,520 Yeah. And then like the normalizing a 669 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,400 really sad double feature, yes. Yeah, there's a movie called 670 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,480 Bring Her Back, which was the most upsetting movie I saw this 671 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,600 year, was a horror film. I remember after that you. 672 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,000 Finished that, you were like that. 673 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,000 It was a horrible experience in terms of just like the feeling 674 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,680 of the movie. Really well made movie, great 675 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,600 performance. From Sally Hawkins as the lead, 676 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,880 but it's one of the most like feel bad movies of I think I've 677 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,800 ever seen. And I definitely think if I had 678 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,600 legs. I kick you is in competition for 679 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,120 that last one to talk about before we get into our our three 680 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,960 films and maybe some TV. The mastermind. 681 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,280 I also was doing work on the couch. 682 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,600 While you watch this, Yeah, you've been very busy lately. 683 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,480 Josh O'Connor love him. Kelly Reichard, love her. 684 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,200 Kelly Reichardt in particular is just so fucking cool. 685 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,480 I like everything that her movies are interested in. 686 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,640 I just don't always like her stories or the pace and that she 687 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,560 chooses. And I would say that you like 688 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,600 her more. Than me. 689 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,600 I do. I do. 690 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,040 I do enjoy her films, but I think the pace ultimately gets 691 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,000 me. Yeah, but if I have. 692 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,280 To watch a movie that feels like a slow burn and it's only like 693 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,520 100 minute film. I'd like to watch Josh O'Connor 694 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,880 because what he's up to in this film and what he's been up to 695 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,360 with La Camara and a few other Movies Now of just being like a 696 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,160 tragically silly Harrison Ford, I love that for him. 697 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,040 It's so much fun. It a lot of actors of his 698 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,080 generation, one that we're going to talk about today with Glenn 699 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,640 Powell, are trying so hard to be like Brad Pitt, are trying so 700 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,360 hard to be Matt Damon or George Clooney or DiCaprio, right? 701 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,120 Even Chalamet falls in that category. 702 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,440 Josh O'Connor just does not care about those expectations and 703 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,200 shout out him for taking his capital and just doing the most 704 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,640 bizarre shit in his movies. So I definitely recommend people 705 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,200 watch this one. I thought it was a little bit 706 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,280 underwhelming as a character study and a little bit out of my 707 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,520 reach thematically, which is not something I usually say in our 708 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,840 podcast because we like over analyze so many movies and talk 709 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,960 about their themes so often. That's kind of why people listen 710 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,920 I think too. But this is a movie I couldn't 711 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,440 get my hands around thematically, so I'm not really 712 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,719 sure outside of the text because I'm not really sure what the 713 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,159 subtext is about in this film. So I'd have to watch it again. 714 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:30,719 So I don't think this is going to make our our top 20, but it 715 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,400 looks really good and I like O'Connor and I love Reichardt, 716 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,639 so check it out. TV Quick check in. 717 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,679 Yeah, we've been watching The Pit. 718 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,000 We have been season. Two, I think we're. 719 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,760 Updated like we're. Yeah, we're up to the last 720 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,520 episode up to date. We just finished episode. 7 721 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,719 episode 8 is out next week. We're halfway through the 722 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,440 season. OK, I was going to ask, are 723 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,239 there? I think this is about halfway. 724 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,680 And with season 1 we watched it all at once. 725 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,520 We binge the whole season 1 because we waited till it was 726 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,400 done showing. We then got all the Tiktoks or 727 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,560 whatever the videos and podcasts that were like watch the pit and 728 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,680 we did and it was one of the best TV experiences of our 729 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,480 lives. Love the pit season 1. 730 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,720 I feel like these characters are not just characters they're like 731 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,560 a part of my like post work work family. 732 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,400 They're like my second work family, if that makes sense. 733 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,720 I really care about the characters in the pit. 734 00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:25,760 I love the performances. Mostly all around like 90% of 735 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,560 the performances I really love and I think the drama really 736 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:34,840 works across season 1 and then season 2 I feel a little bit let 737 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,600 down. I feel lucky that it came so 738 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,600 quickly because it's only like 8 months, you know, that Season 1 739 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,840 just came out, but I feel a little bit let down. 740 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,720 How do you feel? I feel so far fine about. 741 00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:48,880 It like the first it's yes. Like it's definitely not as good 742 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:54,280 as season 1 and it's hard not to binge the show because I I feel 743 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,320 like the episodes, even though they're an hour long, they're 744 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,880 not really like developing the characters in the same way as 745 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,800 season 1. But also just in general, like 746 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,200 the show, it works its way up to things. 747 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,640 And so that doesn't really work with like watching one a week 748 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,040 for me. I do think though, like in, in 749 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,000 terms of season 2, there they did a couple different things 750 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,800 that I was really surprised to see. 751 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,120 Like maybe we should do an episode on Season 2 after it's 752 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,240 done. I think it'd be fun. 753 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,760 It's over in April. Because maybe we'll have 754 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:27,960 thoughts. You know when, when it ends. 755 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,520 But right now I feel like they're not going into some of 756 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,040 the things that were interesting about the characters in Season 757 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,200 1. It felt like there was like a 758 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,400 disconnect or like a writer change or something. 759 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,440 Or they just like weren't picking up what we what the 760 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,320 audience has liked about season 1 and then pursuing it into the 761 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:44,880 season. Instead. 762 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,640 It's like new characters, more emphasis on the actual cases 763 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:54,040 themselves, but in more of like a medical and like let's look at 764 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,320 the prosthetics like angle and less of and the the politics of 765 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,080 how we. Like input medical cases with 766 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,600 the AI commentary and like, I just find a lot. 767 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,280 Yeah, that's interesting. It just feels. 768 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,200 Like overwrought. With new things and they could 769 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,840 have just continued the old things. 770 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,800 But it's also strange they picked the 4th of July and the 771 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,760 atmosphere feels so thin because yeah, it doesn't feel like 4th 772 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,400 of July we're. Like holiday settling or 773 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,480 anything like that. Maybe we'll get a big. 774 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,120 Firework issue. I feel like it's coming, I mean. 775 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,760 They're trying to do this whole hospital thing where other 776 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,840 hospitals, like, technology was shut down. 777 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,720 I'm sure that's AI related somehow. 778 00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:28,640 And the new doctor's going to get in trouble. 779 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,280 She's never had a court case. She's about to get one. 780 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:31,520 Probably. Like, I don't know. 781 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,240 I'm sure there's something. Yeah. 782 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:34,120 Mel. Sorry, Mel. 783 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,680 Mel is my favorite character. And then probably Langdon, which 784 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,720 is a complicated conversation, but yeah, those are probably my 785 00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:43,160 top 2. Is Mel your favorite? 786 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,000 I love Mel. Yeah, I have to think about 787 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,200 who's my favorite. We'll talk about it on the 788 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,040 episode. Avatar we just started watching 789 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,800 avatar last airbender again yeah we're re watching it because 790 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,080 well Avatar the last airbender as people know oppa and momo are 791 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,280 dogs names We love this show it's one of the first things 792 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,120 that united us when we met each other we grew up also when it 793 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,680 was. Airing like I watched the finale 794 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:12,200 live with my brother like us sitting literally like a foot 795 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,280 away from the TV screen. Same. 796 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,000 Yeah, I think with my. Sister as well. 797 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,360 It might be one of the most important pieces of art for our 798 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,800 generation. Like I think it literally is in 799 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,040 conversation with Harry Potter and Hunger Games as one of the 800 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,920 most influential pieces of art that shaped like young 801 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,360 millennials or Gen. ZS like politics, morals, 802 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,480 storytelling or like idea of good storytelling or long 803 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,840 running storytelling. Cora as well. 804 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,400 Let Decora love that. The reason why we're rewatching 805 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,240 all of this over the next few months is because there's a new 806 00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:43,560 Avatar movie coming out that's supposed to be going to 807 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,360 theaters, but now it looks like it's being pulled going to 808 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,800 Paramount. Animators are pissed. 809 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,560 More pissed for them because hopefully Paramount will put 810 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,960 that back in theaters. I think we'd all go see it. 811 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,080 It would probably be sold out for a few weekends in a row. 812 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,240 Yeah, I feel like it would be an Incredibles 2 moment. 813 00:38:57,240 --> 00:39:00,760 Do they like not know the? The people who would come out 814 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,640 for this, I think it's just a streamer thing of being like. 815 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,880 We'll take our losses, let's force people to watch it at home 816 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,840 so we can tell our shareholders that people are signing up for 817 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,200 Paramount per usual. That's just the streaming model. 818 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,600 It's a horrible economy for movies that we live in, but this 819 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,920 is what it is. But that's been an incredible 820 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,600 rewatch. Every episode is special, and 821 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,840 they're only like 20 minutes long. 822 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,400 So check out Avatar with us over the next few months. 823 00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:23,440 All right, so I wish we could log it on Letterbox. 824 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,440 Like there is ATV letterbox. I tried it out, but I don't like 825 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,080 the platform, I don't like the way it looks on my phone, so I'm 826 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,080 like, just stop doing it. But Letterbox has been saying 827 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,920 for years that they're going to add TVI don't think they should 828 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,360 though. I think they should just keep up 829 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,640 the movie model because I just think it's funny that they're 830 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,720 being elitist about it. They're like, we don't do that 831 00:39:41,720 --> 00:39:43,080 shit. Just cinema here. 832 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,680 Well it would be cool if they added like. 833 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,880 Succession or like yeah it would be cool, but I think it's just 834 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,080 a. Funny way to be like, now we're 835 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,960 bigger than that. But yeah, it would be sick, 836 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,400 obviously, if we can log like Breaking Bad and like, whatever, 837 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,200 Walking Dead. OK, so for the trio of our new 838 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,160 releases, I've seen all three films. 839 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,200 You've only seen two, Yes? So I saw crime one O 1. 840 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,920 You did not. I think that's the best movie of 841 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:08,960 these three. Interesting. 842 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,080 OK. So we'll talk about that. 843 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,560 Last, so you can sell us all. On it at the. 844 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,360 End I will sell everybody to go see. 845 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,080 Crime One O 1 in theaters immediately. 846 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,160 I think it's even playing an IMAX and I do recommend seeing 847 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,040 it there. Do you want to start with 848 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,320 Wuthering Heights or How to Make a Killing? 849 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,040 Probably Wuthering Heights I feel like. 850 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:28,200 It's the most relevant Valentine's Day, you know, movie 851 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,760 that everyone's talking about. Yeah. 852 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,240 Before we get into the movie itself, if we're going to start 853 00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:36,000 with Wuthering Heights, we have to address the Emerald Fennell 854 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,240 conversation happening around it for people who are not plugged 855 00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:41,240 in. A lot of discourse has been 856 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:44,880 focused on whether Emerald Fennell has the juice as a 857 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,240 director now being overly or like I'd say hyper criticized 858 00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:52,800 from Saltburn, but really promising young woman and on to 859 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,200 now Wuthering Heights. But also some more, I think 860 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,880 valid criticism of her and Margot Robbie and just the 861 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,560 studio of financing Wuthering Heights. 862 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,960 And with this adaptation of this Bronte novel of their casting of 863 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,120 Heathcliff as just a this kind of white man and his tragic 864 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,640 story in the novels a lot more complicated and complex in the 865 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,320 way it portrays that character. And I think those are like very 866 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,480 fair conversations to be had about the racial coding of that 867 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,280 character adaptation choices, the way that Hollywood still 868 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,080 whitewashes very complex, diverse stories. 869 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,640 All that is reasonable to critique, you know, powerful 870 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,480 figures or money, including Fenella or Margot Robbie as 871 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,840 producers on the project. But in saying all that, 872 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,640 everything I say does not, you know, forgive any of that. 873 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,240 But what I found really interesting, what I've made some 874 00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:47,600 videos on on Tiktok is how quickly that discussion has 875 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,600 shifted into questioning Emerald Fennell's legacy as this, like, 876 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,280 legitimate filmmaker and more of her as a music video director as 877 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,400 some sort of like indictment of her work in her vision as a 878 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,520 filmmaker or artist. I've seen a lot of critics and 879 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,760 content creators in this space, which is sort of both what we do 880 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,840 here on the podcast. So I'm not really criticizing 881 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,760 those people, but I am saying that I'm observing those people 882 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,680 calling Emerald Fennell a like pseudo intellectual like fake 883 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,160 provocateur. And I have found all of that 884 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,880 discourse very weird because she is 3 films into her career and 885 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,680 it's just an insane amount of I've read 3000 to 5000 word 886 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:31,600 essays on why she is like a hack for like legitimate outlets. 887 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:36,440 And like I do not understand how this is just been generally 888 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,120 accepted. Like I do know why it's been 889 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:39,920 generally accepted looking at the state of our country right 890 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,240 now. But I'm saying that this is 891 00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:45,480 coming from like seemingly like progressive bodies in media. 892 00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:49,480 And I find it to just be very strange. 893 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,680 Not the Emerald Fennell's gender like Shields her from criticism. 894 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,040 I'm not saying anything like that. 895 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,000 But the loaded language that's being used around talking about 896 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,400 her, the double standard that's being that's happening as a 897 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,600 result of like over criticizing her verse other film makers that 898 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,040 her are her peers or film makers that are more legacy auteurs 899 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,040 that do not get the same level of criticism. 900 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,480 I just have found it all to be like really bizarre. 901 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,320 Yeah. And like to your first. 902 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,840 Point, of course, we should be having conversations about like 903 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,160 whitewashing stories and casting in Hollywood. 904 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,560 Like those are all valid criticisms to have towards the 905 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,840 industry in general, but also to have in terms of like production 906 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,800 or towards a particular filmmaker like Emerald Fennell. 907 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,280 Like that is a conversation we should be having. 908 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,240 But to your like other point on Emerald Fennell, this is 909 00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:40,760 something that we talked about when people were responding to 910 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,600 promising young woman and to salt burn. 911 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,920 Like this is not it. It literally is like a recycled 912 00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:49,200 situation happening where it's her movie. 913 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,160 It's so weird to people are making money. 914 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,960 Yeah. And it feels like. 915 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,760 At least from, you know, maybe it's interesting from our point 916 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,280 of view as we're like kind of in this space, not as like formal 917 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,480 critics, but we are keeping up to date with like a lot of the 918 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,760 conversations around movies. And what it feels like to me at 919 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:11,160 least, is like there are people with like major audiences, 920 00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:14,400 right? Critics and, and people who are 921 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,240 like talking about movies who will like say things about 922 00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:22,720 Emerald Fennell that are very strange because like they, you 923 00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:26,640 know, first of all, they're like very codedly sexist, but also 924 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,000 like, if you're just listening are clearly sexist towards her 925 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,440 movies. And then also, it's strange 926 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,960 because a lot of the the critics that we listen to and like will 927 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:43,640 have like, takes about directors who are men, like Fincher, for 928 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,400 example, who does like, you know, similar things to Fennell. 929 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,320 I really like your Ghost. Yeah, that's a great one. 930 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,520 And like there's. Such high praise just for 931 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,960 seeing, like, a film maker. Go for it. 932 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,440 Darren Aronofsky. Yeah. 933 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,600 And and and. Like when Emerald Fennell does 934 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,560 it, it's like this is terrible. This is like she's a try hard. 935 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,200 Yeah, she's a pseudo. Intellectual strange thing to. 936 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,160 To see happen, I guess, like it's not that you have to like 937 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,840 all of her movies, but the the fact that it's just like so 938 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,560 blatantly clear when you hear like a bunch of these critics 939 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:22,280 like talking about directors who are men and respecting a swing, 940 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,960 even if they don't like the movie, but not like having that 941 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,760 same conversation with Fennell. But regardless, it's interesting 942 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,520 because I think what's happening with her movies like that we 943 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:38,360 noticed in her her other films, is that like that conversations 944 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,040 happening with people who have large audiences. 945 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,480 And then people who are kind of like us, like in a critic 946 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,760 adjacent space. But like, maybe just have like 947 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,840 conversations or like a TikTok platform or like whatever are 948 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,160 then recycling because they're like, oh, this is like what the 949 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,160 headline is. And then it feels like that's 950 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,960 trickling down to also how people are reading the movie and 951 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,160 it feels like a hate cycle or something. 952 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,800 It is, yeah. And it's not that I liked 953 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:04,880 everything about weather heights. 954 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,840 I think you like the movie a little bit more than me. 955 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,520 I also am like, I don't think it's very good. 956 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,920 I'm a Jacob Allordy hater and like, I can't do anything about 957 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,960 it. But well, this movie certainly 958 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,360 did not help. His case because I think this is 959 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,480 a bad performance and it's not that I mean when I. 960 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,720 See Jacob Allordy giving like a Hollywood Reporter round table 961 00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:26,280 conversation. I'd want to get a beer 962 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:31,320 performance or I'm seeing him. You know, it really sold me that 963 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,920 like Zendaya and him dated. I think question mark. 964 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,400 I think it's a huge rumor. I don't. 965 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,880 Know if it was I thought they were like. 966 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,960 Photos of them, I don't know. We don't keep up to date. 967 00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:41,840 I think they were just like walking around. 968 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,520 Once, and we're like reading reading a book during the set of 969 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,160 Euphoria. Tell us I actually am 970 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,200 interested. And it was like but I don't. 971 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,720 Know OK regardless. You know, he is a, a beautiful 972 00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:58,120 looking human. He's very tall and he he seems 973 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,840 nice enough, but I, I just don't care. 974 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,480 But I, I just don't think he's a good actor and like when he's on 975 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,360 screen, it just annoys me. It feels like similar to how I 976 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,920 started feeling towards like Chad and Michael Murray when he 977 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,720 was like on the outs. John Michael. 978 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,360 I'm serious. Like. 979 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,440 They both they both came from like. 980 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,920 Basically TV, Yeah. Interesting. 981 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,680 Which there's nothing wrong with that. 982 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,920 But do you find it weird that Jacob Lordy hasn't? 983 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,720 Received any backlash for taking the role that many people think 984 00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:27,400 is supposed to be a non white person? 985 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,320 That is fascinating. Right, because I forgot to bring 986 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:31,400 that up in my video. Yeah. 987 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,360 Actually, that's so. Interesting because you would 988 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:38,000 normally see that in other movies, but I think he is almost 989 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:45,240 like too tall to to have the public, you know? 990 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,800 You're telling me if he was 510? Maybe like this fucking guy. 991 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,000 Guy taking jobs, Bronte. Novel. 992 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,560 Yeah, turn. It on because they're like Jacob 993 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,560 lordy they're. Like Oh my God, like he just put 994 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,840 like, you know, he just put his tongue inside Margot Robbie eye. 995 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:01,920 You know what I mean? I hated all. 996 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,960 Of that I found it to be really upsetting like obviously they've 997 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,280 chemistry sometimes but I. Was like and I. 998 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,600 Do think Margot Robbie is like a goddess but God damn I almost 999 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:11,920 found it too much. It was too much. 1000 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,520 It was too the. Licking of the tears in 1001 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,880 particular. Could that have been improv? 1002 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,960 I think maybe, maybe not. There were some good central 1003 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,600 moments, but as soon. As they start getting physical I 1004 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,000 just felt so boring and repetitious. 1005 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,760 If I have to see. Someone's like, like the valleys 1006 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,200 in someone's tongue. I'm too close, you know, like at 1007 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,760 that point it become, and I know she was kind of like playing 1008 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:39,120 with like abject, you know, she got Saltburn with Barry Kogan. 1009 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,080 'S character, yeah, like. I know she's playing with that 1010 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,280 like the eggs, like I think we'll get into it in a second, 1011 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,960 but but it it was just almost like repulsive. 1012 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,400 No, that's the word I thought about too. 1013 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,320 When I walked out of theater, I felt was repulsed by that 1014 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,160 character. And I think you're supposed to 1015 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,400 feel repulsed by his revenge arc. 1016 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,200 But also be sympathetic to a considering how much Margot 1017 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,320 Robbie's character fetishizes class differences so that there 1018 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,280 are interesting things going on. We're going to get into them 1019 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,680 into the movie, but the last thing we also talked about this 1020 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,680 with Saltburn when it came to Olivia Wilde with Don't Worry 1021 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,400 Darling and how people talked about Olivia Wilde or Genie 1022 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,680 Prince, by the way, with. The woman king. 1023 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,880 People acted like that movie was the fucking 10 Commandments, the 1024 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,200 way that they broke down what was wrong historically with that 1025 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,400 film. And yeah, so to your point, I 1026 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,640 just think the psychoanalysis of Emerald Fennell is the double 1027 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,640 standard is like we just do not do that with film makers that 1028 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:37,480 she's peers with of the opposite gender and the delegitimizing 1029 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:41,120 her as an artist. It's just incredibly strange. 1030 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,360 It's just, and I'm not saying all of her movies are perfect. 1031 00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,600 I don't think she's like promising young woman has like 1032 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,720 obviously it's ups and downs. Saltburn is, I think, her best 1033 00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:51,360 movie and her most interesting film. 1034 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,560 And this movie is her her messiest, maybe her most 1035 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,680 ambitious in some ways, because it is trying to take this 1036 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,560 classic novel and twist it and put the movie in quotes and do 1037 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,840 something a little bit different with it, provoke all audiences 1038 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,160 and maybe distance everybody a little bit too much. 1039 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,880 But I've thought a lot about Christopher Nolan and how he 1040 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,960 was, like, a private boarding school kid and, like, his dad 1041 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,120 was an ad executive. And nobody talks about, like, 1042 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,680 family wealth. And they talk about Christopher 1043 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,280 Nolan. Nobody talks about him with 1044 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,720 suits on, you know, all the time and being pretentious. 1045 00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:27,360 Or they'll make it as a joke of like, yeah. 1046 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,720 He's a serious guy and I like it when he's still and he's. 1047 00:50:29,720 --> 00:50:32,840 Running around on SNL and like, and nobody talks about how he 1048 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:37,640 cast maybe the whitest white man in Hollywood and Tom Holland as 1049 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,560 a Greek hero from the Odyssey. Like no one's like that is 1050 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,600 wrong. No one like, does that make 1051 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,440 sense? Like, I mean, certainly Tom 1052 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,880 Holland does not match the skin tone of the characters in the 1053 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,960 Odyssey. I feel like that is I can say 1054 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,960 that as a fact. And so I don't know, I feel like 1055 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,720 people not keeping the same critical energy of, you know, 1056 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,160 movies like that instead being like, no, we're criticizing the 1057 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,440 Odyssey or the Gladiator because we're saying that the, you know, 1058 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,760 the outfits that inaccurate, historically inaccurate 1059 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,480 costumes, you know, those are bad and we should have 1060 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,200 historically accurate costumes. And it's like, that's not the 1061 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,120 same as telling a director of three movies that she's a hack 1062 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,360 or that she's stupid. Like those are that's those are 1063 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,680 different criticisms with different energies and stakes. 1064 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,040 So anyways, I just found it. I want to talk about that at the 1065 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,320 top because of the the different energies in the takedown. 1066 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,960 So just it's just again, bizarre. 1067 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,640 Yeah. And also I've heard a lot of. 1068 00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:33,960 Really strange comments about her villainizing or vilifying 1069 00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:37,960 the underclass and it's like, I don't think that's what her, 1070 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,200 especially in Saltburn that's actually like not what her. 1071 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,120 It's not about Barry Kyogan being a villain. 1072 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,400 It's very much a talented Mr. Ripley adjacent movie that's 1073 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,000 like interested in a Jude Law character and interested in 1074 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,240 wealth in general. And it maybe it's not as direct 1075 00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:55,920 about that 'cause it's a little it's having a little bit more 1076 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,320 like fun, but it's just weird to see. 1077 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,960 Also like not an intentional misreading, but it's like a very 1078 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,040 disappointing thing when I'm when her any of her movies come 1079 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,800 out for people not to actually like engage with them in a way 1080 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,560 that feels like what the movies actually doing. 1081 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,640 And it also feels disappointing to to have people feel like 1082 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,440 they're talking about her movies and very similar. 1083 00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,760 I think the, the Don't Worry Darling comp was like probably 1084 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,160 the best one. And people felt like, oh, I'm 1085 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,400 not even going to touch this. I'm not even like going to go 1086 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:30,360 into a conversation about how like the discourse around this 1087 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,000 could be sexist. They're just like, well, you 1088 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,480 know what people are saying about it, you know, like that 1089 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,080 feels disappointing. I think just especially like 1090 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,760 there's a bunch of like critics who are men in the space and 1091 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,040 it's like it's just so weird that they can't just like see 1092 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,320 that or, or talk about the movie. 1093 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,440 It's often the conversation around the movie and the the 1094 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,680 director. Yeah, getting into the. 1095 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,200 Film itself, I'll stay at the top again. 1096 00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:56,840 I think I might already said this, but I don't think this 1097 00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,760 movie is very good. I think it has its moments and I 1098 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,160 did have a fine time in the theater watching it. 1099 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,600 I think the second-half is like a big mess. 1100 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,320 The first half I think is fine. So that's kind of where I'm at 1101 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,600 with it right now. I still think obviously she has 1102 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,560 like a really distinct voice that I love seeing on a big 1103 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:18,120 screen, like hyper stylized, sensual, quote UN quote music 1104 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,840 video charged sequences that I find to be a compliment. 1105 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,240 I'm going to die in this house. And I've been. 1106 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,120 Yeah, I have been. Singing that around the house 1107 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,920 for the past few weeks that I've seen this movie. 1108 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,120 It's very catchy. And Charli XCX has a song or two 1109 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,880 in this movie that I thought she was going to like, do the whole 1110 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,040 soundtrack. Yeah. 1111 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,680 Of the film. I guess she is the soundtrack. 1112 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,160 Well, yeah, she did a lot of it. It's. 1113 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,320 Just like, interesting, like Cynthy playing things in the I 1114 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:43,680 guess I thought I was going to hear her voice a lot. 1115 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,840 More and it was going to have this kind of surreal feeling, 1116 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,000 but so should we ever. Someone please. 1117 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,520 Tell me, did we ever hear the, like, fall in love again and 1118 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,400 again that we got in the trailer that was like such a hit. 1119 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,720 I don't know, maybe that moment where he's like in that like. 1120 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,040 Where he's like going over the hill and he's got his beard 1121 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,000 still a lordy, and there's like that big red background to the 1122 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,640 backdrop of the sun going down. Maybe in that moment. 1123 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,680 But no, I don't really remember. OK, so to start off the 1124 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,560 screenplay, I think the screenplay, I think nobody's, I 1125 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,480 don't think anybody in their right mind should be questioning 1126 00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:17,800 Emerald Fennell as a director. I think questioning her as a 1127 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,760 writer is totally valid. And I think that is where, you 1128 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,560 know, going back to your class commentary conversation, I 1129 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,080 understand why people get mixed up with her because the whole 1130 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:31,080 her whole through line is sort of being like, here's the ways 1131 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:35,240 in which middle class people fetishize upper class and lower 1132 00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:37,680 class people in different ways. And I find that to be a 1133 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,040 fascinating idea. I think that is relatable 1134 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,320 probably to mainstream audiences who have seen that or have 1135 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,840 experienced that themselves. And I think Talented Mr. Ripley 1136 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,760 is an interesting kind of like Rosetta Stone for at least like 1137 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,240 the Matt Damon version for like American audiences who are like 1138 00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:56,520 obsessed with that movie, like as a cult, you know, classic in 1139 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,760 some ways. Even if she said that wasn't a 1140 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,480 major inspiration for Saltburn. But she does do this thing where 1141 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,920 she is indicting rich people and promising young woman in 1142 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,520 Saltburn in Wuthering Heights. Like in Wuthering Heights, 1143 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,800 Margot Robbie's character is the character being criticized the 1144 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,560 most, I think. And Jacob Allordy's character 1145 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,360 supposed to be dense distancing because a lot of what his 1146 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,680 revenge arc is in this movie is a product of her classism. 1147 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,560 And so that's like an interesting, like, I mean, 1148 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,800 obviously her father is like the direct kind of like 1149 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,440 manifestation of the classism and like patriarchy. 1150 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,960 And so you do feel sympathetic toward Margot Robbie's 1151 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,560 character. But by the end of the film, 1152 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,720 she's become sort of a monster in her own right. 1153 00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:37,440 And what she's done to create a monster sort of feels like a 1154 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,960 Frankenstein. You know, I know he was the 1155 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,760 monster in Frankenstein the creature, which we've only seen 1156 00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:44,960 a part of. We haven't finished that movie 1157 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,320 yet, but apparently he's pretty good in it. 1158 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,680 But yeah, I would say that she sort of does a good job with the 1159 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,280 Beer Kiogan character in Saltburn as well, with an 1160 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,840 indictment on a wealthy family sneaking in this pretty 1161 00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,840 distancing, sympathetic middle class guy who has like some 1162 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,080 problems into that family. And not realize for audiences 1163 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,240 not to realize that it's still a criticism of class inequality 1164 00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:11,160 And what that does to people's psychologies, I think is just 1165 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,160 maybe speaking to like how she just has her finger on the 1166 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,160 pulse. If people are misreading it now, 1167 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,120 I think that's OK. She does feel like she's going 1168 00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,680 to have a career in like 30 years. 1169 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,680 Or people rewatch Saltburn and they're like fuck, this is 1170 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,000 really good. So I think she's going to be 1171 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,480 just fine. I'm not sure this movie is 1172 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,760 because it does feel like this movie feels way. 1173 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,360 Messier in terms of the commentary in class than the 1174 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,720 Saltburn. Yeah, it's harder to discuss. 1175 00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:35,840 Because it does feel messier and I think in a lot of ways it's 1176 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:39,360 because it feels like 2 movies. It feels like 2 films in this 1177 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,680 story where the first section is this like dreamy gothic 1178 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,680 storybook vibe. It's like my girl. 1179 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,800 I guess so. I don't think you've seen my 1180 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:48,480 girl. I have seen. 1181 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,960 My girl, but I. Can't really piece, I guess, 1182 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,960 'cause the kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah, OK, I get it 1183 00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:57,520 where it's sort of, it's the beginning of a tragic narrative. 1184 00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,560 You're watching a tragedy and you're getting a lot of romantic 1185 00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,400 scenery in contrast with what you know to be a tragedy in 1186 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,120 this, like, sad story of Heathcliff. 1187 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:12,320 And it is, I think, a solid introduction to a successful 1188 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,280 yearning between Katherine and Heathcliff as characters because 1189 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,280 the kids are very convincing. Yeah, they I was so. 1190 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:23,200 Surprised by the the acting or the performances of the kids. 1191 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,280 Like you can go really wrong with having kids be in the movie 1192 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:31,480 for that long. It was a good actors but whoever 1193 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,040 played Margot's younger self was amazing. 1194 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,360 She was so good. And. 1195 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:42,640 And then also there was the kid from adolescence who I we 1196 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,080 haven't seen that show yet, but I know Owen Cooper. 1197 00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:47,760 Yeah. People obviously like think. 1198 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,160 He's great. So yeah, I thought they did a 1199 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,560 really good job. So in the 1st 30. 1200 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,000 Minutes. I was on board, especially 1201 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,600 because of that younger cast and they carry a lot of the 1202 00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,920 emotional connection to the film because when we jump in time, 1203 00:57:59,920 --> 00:58:02,200 you're just like kind of mapping a little bit on subconsciously 1204 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,480 maybe for some people, but like, consciously for me, those little 1205 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:05,880 kids. On to Margot Robbie and yeah, 1206 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,880 the Lordy. So I enjoyed that. 1207 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,960 I also like how Margot Robbie was doing like a Cher from 1208 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,520 Clueless, Emma Stone from the Favorite. 1209 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,120 Yeah. She was doing something that was 1210 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:19,560 not original, but it was familiar in fun ways where she 1211 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,720 was pulling from like Anna Taylor Joy from, like Emma. 1212 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,920 Like there was multiple subversive period piece 1213 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:29,120 adaptations that she was doing at once that I thought was 1214 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,800 actually really good. And that people have not been 1215 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,400 giving her credit for her because they don't like the 1216 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,520 movie so much or her as a producer with her casting 1217 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:40,880 choices with Fenel. But yeah, so I think she keeps 1218 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,280 the movie from feeling too stiff because Jacob Allordy is 1219 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:47,040 incredibly stiff throughout the entire runtime, but especially 1220 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,680 in the beginning of the movie. I like his character most when 1221 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,360 he has the beard and he's sad. I think he's the most 1222 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,240 compelling. Sadly because I only liked him 1223 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,640 when he was sad and as soon as he becomes a rich asshole, which 1224 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,600 I know is a part of the point, I think of the class critique 1225 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,680 here. He's just incredibly distancing. 1226 00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,640 But Jacob Allordi is good or better at playing an asshole 1227 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:10,040 than he is a sympathetic figure, so I do think, oddly his 1228 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,200 performance he's better playing hot. 1229 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:17,040 I was like evil hot though. He's better at that, which is 1230 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:18,360 very euphoria. Coded from. 1231 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,960 His performances, yeah, I'm, I mean we also. 1232 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:22,880 Haven't seen Euphoria, but we know, I guess. 1233 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,000 Like I've seen enough scenes from him to know yeah, yeah, 1234 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,360 like the type of character that he plays. 1235 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,800 I I feel like, yeah, when it gets to the second-half of the 1236 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:34,360 movie, though, the they're both the writing for him and the 1237 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,400 acting really falls off and you're like, I don't even know 1238 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:41,920 this character, you know, so I can't believe in the conflict. 1239 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,440 And then I also don't care about how much they're having sex 1240 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,360 then, you know, like. So I do agree, I think the first 1241 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,120 half of the movie was like way stronger. 1242 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,280 I was emotionally attached to the characters. 1243 00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,320 I thought it was interesting in terms of the, the way that 1244 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,640 Margot Robbie's character, you know, like in, in terms of a 1245 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:03,280 period piece being like, I need to go get married to someone 1246 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:06,320 who's rich, right? And like, I can't marry 1247 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:10,080 Heathcliff. I I, but it just felt like from 1248 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,920 that moment on, like when Heathcliff leaves, it just feels 1249 01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:18,840 like really, I mean, I love the set and set design and like 1250 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:23,080 meeting her husband and the sister, like we Allison have to 1251 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:24,800 talk. About Alison Oliver's characters 1252 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,080 the sister the wealthy sister's excellent and and just like. 1253 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:32,600 So meeting Isabella and Edgar like an all time great scene of 1254 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:40,000 seeing Isabella describe Romeo and Juliet into Edgar in their 1255 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:44,840 garden that feels a little like Alice in Wonderland like a your 1256 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:48,480 go set kind of like vibe. But I love Did you like that 1257 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,800 that it was heightened in? That way I thought it was fun 1258 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,040 like I didn't. Mind this weird story book. 1259 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,600 Like I love the the montage we get of her going through the 1260 01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:01,160 home that feels really dreamy and surreal and you know, her 1261 01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:07,400 her skin is like her bedroom. It it just all felt really like 1262 01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,080 trippy from like a cartoon that we watched growing up. 1263 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,160 But like you can reach out and touch it. 1264 01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,560 Like so it I thought it was cool. 1265 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:16,920 I don't know that it thematically worked. 1266 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,280 I just really like seeing Margot Robbie, like cheers in a tea 1267 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:24,840 glass, wearing red sunglasses that felt out like, out of that 1268 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,200 time. Yeah. 1269 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:29,160 So. Yeah. 1270 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,560 So I like that, but I don't know if I liked it, like, 1271 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,280 thematically or anything. I think totally it didn't work 1272 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:34,800 for me. I. 1273 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,680 Think the first half being like a gothic despair and then the 1274 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:42,000 second-half being like fairy tale satire was just very 1275 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,160 strange. But like, I like that on paper, 1276 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,640 I can see why that was given $100 million to go and, like, 1277 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,960 make a movie for blockbuster. Yeah, film making. 1278 01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,400 And as far as like, getting butts in seats, I think it's 1279 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,320 like a really bold way to to direct this story that has been 1280 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,880 adapted, you know, dozens of times. 1281 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,440 But when the satire gets bigger and we start seeing exaggerated 1282 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,720 images of like, the decadent lifestyle, we're seeing these 1283 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,560 big strawberries. We're like, I like the big 1284 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,880 strawberry. Yeah, I, I it's an interesting. 1285 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,120 Choice, but then when we're cutting to like the dad and 1286 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,000 others other home and he's got all the wine bottles and he 1287 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:17,520 dies. It is funny, but it kept taking 1288 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,440 me out like even Allison Oliver's comedy kept taking me 1289 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,360 out because the first half is so serious to me. 1290 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,040 I found the first half very serious Yes, that makes sense. 1291 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:27,640 It was a weird. Switch up. 1292 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,360 Yeah, it's a weird shift. And so then. 1293 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,200 When it tries to get serious again at the end, I was annoyed 1294 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,720 at the movie like when I don't want to get into spoilers 1295 01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,960 actually, because I think there's there's a big spoiler at 1296 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:40,320 the end of this film that turns into a full on like tragic tale. 1297 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:41,680 I thought visually though that like. 1298 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:43,920 Looked incredible. Looked incredible. 1299 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,120 But I just didn't think the movie deserved it. 1300 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,320 I was like, I, I was emotional because I wasn't. 1301 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:53,640 I'm just an easy cry, right? But I didn't think the film 1302 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,560 deserved that. You know, the the so-called This 1303 01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,320 is a Romantic tragedy when really I think it was trying to 1304 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,520 be a little meta. I think it was trying to comment 1305 01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:04,640 on the genre itself. I think it was trying to do a a 1306 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:08,640 satire on its own on period pieces, a satire on like book 1307 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,280 talk release. Like I think it was trying to be 1308 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:15,080 a little mean and pushy. And obviously it worked. 1309 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:16,840 That's The funny thing about Emerald Fennell's movies. 1310 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,600 It's like even when she's asked about these things, she seems 1311 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,160 like she doesn't really care that people to argue about 1312 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,040 whether she's a good director. Because I do think there's a 1313 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,440 level of her making these movies where she's like, I wouldn't be 1314 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,960 allowed to make movies any other way besides people making films 1315 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,200 that I know people are going to. That's basically making movies 1316 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:33,240 that are going to piss people off. 1317 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,400 And that's why she reminds you probably most of Aronofsky 1318 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,720 Adventure as directors who were just like want to keep smashing 1319 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,960 the red button in the middle of the room because they know that 1320 01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,800 there's money to make there and they can maybe say something 1321 01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:47,160 interesting while they're doing it anyway. 1322 01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,520 So we in the second-half of the movie, we get like a Richard 1323 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:52,280 Heathcliff. Don't really love that, but we 1324 01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:53,640 do get. That's why we never really like 1325 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,840 learn what? Happened right like they yadda 1326 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:57,920 yadda it he's. Like, yeah, I made some money. 1327 01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,120 I don't really want to discuss it. 1328 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:05,280 And there's some stuff with like Hung Chow's character that I 1329 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:06,840 thought that was like unsuccessful. 1330 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:08,200 Yeah. So what do you think they were 1331 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:09,560 trying to do there? Because it going going back to 1332 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:13,120 the thematically scattered element to this movie, there are 1333 01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,440 interesting ideas about critiquing wealth, patriarchy, 1334 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,160 people fetishizing class or how privileged white women are. 1335 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,440 You know, even they are trapped inside certain patriarchal 1336 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,280 systems. Were they trying to say that 1337 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,600 even those white woman like Margot Robbie's character were 1338 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,440 unaware of how a woman of color could be far more trapped in 1339 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:33,600 those systems? Yeah. 1340 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,400 It was supposed to be, yeah. For Yeah, I think like 1341 01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:40,680 Catherine, the way that she treated Nelly was supposed to be 1342 01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:46,400 like an indictment on Kathy. Kathy I. 1343 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,880 Hate it the way Jacob already says it, Kathy. 1344 01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,360 It couldn't take it. But, yeah. 1345 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,240 So I think there's supposed to be an indictment on Margot 1346 01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,240 Robbie's character. But because Margot Robbie's 1347 01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,840 character was also kind of like, at the center of this. 1348 01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:05,040 And like, you're supposed to be like kind of disagreeing with 1349 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:08,960 her and how she was like living her life in this like privileged 1350 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:14,120 way that she saw herself in like a a how I'm going to die in this 1351 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:18,480 house. She like in the the I guess her 1352 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:19,800 status. It's not even that good of a 1353 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,400 song. It's just the trailer was such, 1354 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,040 it's such good marketing. I just kept hearing it over and 1355 01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,480 over again while watching it. Anyway, I don't think it. 1356 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,040 Was successful in, like, criticizing Margot Robbie's 1357 01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:31,720 character? Yeah. 1358 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:35,520 I guess, yeah. Performance wise, I have nothing 1359 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,920 else to say. I think ultimately the movie was 1360 01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,320 not successful, but I didn't have a bad time. 1361 01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,600 Yeah, I was just bored. That was the saddest part about 1362 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,200 the sex scenes too, because I was like, these are two of the 1363 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,440 hottest people working. So it is kind of you just did a 1364 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,960 bad job if people aren't convinced even by that. 1365 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,360 Unless you had a you thought you had a good time with this movie 1366 01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,840 and it was you liked the thematic elements. 1367 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,200 You thought it was the production design was 1368 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,840 incredible. You love the cinematography from 1369 01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,840 Line of Sangren, who is a good cinematographer, though. 1370 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,480 I thought the movie was like really poorly lit. 1371 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,440 For whatever reason. We don't get into that. 1372 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:15,160 And maybe you liked all the romantic erotic thriller aspects 1373 01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:16,200 toward the second-half of the movie. 1374 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:19,560 I will say Jacob Allordy and Allison Oliver's character, 1375 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:24,240 their sexual dynamic in the sexual politics and also the 1376 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,320 sort of rug pulling of what's actually going on over there in 1377 01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,080 terms of like her having more power than what is being led on 1378 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,240 in that relationship. Well, it's because he's sort of 1379 01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,840 being a little tricky. Well, I guess you know I've. 1380 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,560 It's really weird to to kind of see like people who have read 1381 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,440 the book have a big relationship to the book. 1382 01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:40,840 Yeah, because you haven't, right? 1383 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:42,840 I have not. I have not either. 1384 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:47,200 I was supposed to read it in, like a lit class and I didn't. 1385 01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:52,320 But I feel like that what people have said is that like, he 1386 01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,640 actually did abuse that character, like the Heathcliff 1387 01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:56,720 character. Oh, in the book. 1388 01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:57,520 Yeah. So like. 1389 01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,080 But the way I read. It in the movie and the way that 1390 01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,440 I think it was intended in the movie very clearly, which by the 1391 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:02,680 way, would have went really bad if they did. 1392 01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:04,240 Cast a person of color being abusive. 1393 01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:06,040 I do think the character is supposed to be abusive in the 1394 01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:11,520 novel so but in in the movie. Heathcliff was like playing at 1395 01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:17,400 the idea of that happening to get Kathy to write him back to 1396 01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,840 come see him. And so I like I thought that was 1397 01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:25,680 like actually a good a little bit of relief in the movie. 1398 01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:30,000 That was like feeling a little too serious and like tonally 1399 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,800 like in into itself. She brought a lot of levity, too 1400 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,200 much with. The the. 1401 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,520 Like sex scenes of Jacob and Lordy and Margot Robbie, like, 1402 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,760 because once that started getting boring, I was like, oh, 1403 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:41,560 man, this. That's a bummer. 1404 01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:45,360 And then but then, yeah, when when they kind of have a 1405 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:49,440 relationship, I just think that Allison Oliver just did such a 1406 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,320 good job. Like, bringing the comedy to 1407 01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,320 that. There's one moment where she was 1408 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,360 like, refreshing. He's like, I need you to write 1409 01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:57,680 this and she's like, why can't you write it? 1410 01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:58,880 Oh, wait, you can't write or whatever. 1411 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,080 She was just being a little spicy with him, but we had just 1412 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:02,760 watched her like bark and stuff like that. 1413 01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,600 So we're like, what is going on here? 1414 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:06,920 So I like that being a little bit of a mystery with Hung 1415 01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:08,680 Chow's character and her being sort of tricked. 1416 01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:11,080 I just like that she was kind of like a. 1417 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:15,320 Little scary even when we first meet her, she reminded me of who 1418 01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:16,359 is. Moaning Myrtle? 1419 01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,600 Yes, she reminded me of moaning. Myrtle from Harry. 1420 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,080 Potter. Apparently Allison Oliver played 1421 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,279 somebody in Saltburn I saw on the cast list, but I don't 1422 01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:25,840 remember her from Saltburn. There's a sister in that film 1423 01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,880 that she could have been, but if that was her and she disappeared 1424 01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:30,640 into that role because I just could not tell. 1425 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,120 Yeah. So I haven't looked at her 1426 01:08:32,319 --> 01:08:33,200 career. There was. 1427 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:38,319 Also another actor in this who Ewan Mitchell, and he was the 1428 01:08:38,319 --> 01:08:41,160 guy who we really liked in House of Dragon and apparently he was 1429 01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,040 also in Sulphur and I don't remember him in House of Dragon. 1430 01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:45,240 Yeah, yeah. Sulphur. 1431 01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,399 He's he is. I think he likes Barry Keogan. 1432 01:08:47,399 --> 01:08:49,160 I think they have like a relationship at first. 1433 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:50,920 Oh, you're right. Yeah. 1434 01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:52,840 And he's pissed because he falls in love with. 1435 01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:56,160 Jacob already? Oh, apparently he's also in the. 1436 01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:57,760 Task. Oh no, no, that's Allison 1437 01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,880 Oliver. I'm excited to watch the. 1438 01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,600 Task Mark Ruffalo. We're gonna get to Mark Griff a 1439 01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:03,240 little bit later. Wait. 1440 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,160 Allison Oliver was also. In the order with Jude Law. 1441 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,120 Do you remember her? Interesting. 1442 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,319 Was she the wife? I don't know how to look. 1443 01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,600 I really like that movie. OK, we're going to the next 1444 01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:14,080 film. OK. 1445 01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:18,720 So ultimately, I think Emerald Cannell, Saltburn, Promising 1446 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:22,680 Young Woman, good movies, though there's a problematic discourse 1447 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,080 around them that I think some of it's valid, some of it's not. 1448 01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:29,160 And then Wuthering Heights is kind of like a lot of movies 1449 01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,240 that came out last year. It feels like Mickey 17. 1450 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,760 It feels a little bit like Eddington were like, it was a 1451 01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,319 very bold, ambitious take that provoked a lot of people, was 1452 01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:41,359 very divisive in its reaction. Maybe Eddington's not fair, but 1453 01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:44,439 maybe Mickey 17 is the better comp and it just mostly didn't 1454 01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:46,279 work. But you can see how it almost 1455 01:09:46,279 --> 01:09:48,160 worked. On to our next film. 1456 01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,479 We just saw this last night, How to Make a Killing. 1457 01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,800 It just came out. So this is an instant reaction. 1458 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,280 We haven't really talked about it at all. 1459 01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,400 Glenn Powell, Did you want me to give the synopsis or just want 1460 01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:02,200 to go into Glenn Powell? No, no, give the synopsis 'cause 1461 01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:03,560 you might. Not know about this movie I. 1462 01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:05,840 Think it's an 824 film. There hasn't been much marketing 1463 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,840 of it, but Glenn Powell stars as a character named Beckett who 1464 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:15,400 is, what do I want to say, like a blue collar outsider who has 1465 01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:20,040 been disowned by his ultra wealthy family and he decides to 1466 01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,960 reclaim his family fortune because he believes it is owed 1467 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,960 to him. And maybe it is, and he decides 1468 01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:31,720 to reclaim it by doing some bad stuff and trying to eliminate 1469 01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:36,600 some things that are in the way of his, you know, inheritance. 1470 01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,800 The thesis is why make? A living when you can make a 1471 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,040 killing. Good. 1472 01:10:41,480 --> 01:10:44,360 Well done, well done, He. Still a bad title. 1473 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,440 Yeah, it is a bad title. I I think you know, it tells you 1474 01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:50,440 what the movie is about very clearly in the marketing. 1475 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,480 So if you've seen a trailer like, you know what the movie is 1476 01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:55,040 about, but and it's actually not as cool. 1477 01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,000 As it is in the marketing, I agree. 1478 01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,040 Is that the? But sorry, no, no. 1479 01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:03,920 I was going to say, but. Don't look up anything about 1480 01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:06,520 this movie. I would just if you have like a 1481 01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:11,040 night to kill, you know, I didn't mean to say the but if 1482 01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,840 you do, like we got to cut it. I'm not trying to be. 1483 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:17,240 I'm not trying to like do a pun. I literally I meant it actually, 1484 01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,320 if you just have a movie where you're like, I want to or not, 1485 01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:21,720 where you're like, I want to go see a movie. 1486 01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:25,400 This is just a fun movie to see after work, right? 1487 01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,880 And it's like bad ready or not. Yeah, yeah, 'cause I think. 1488 01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:31,640 We will last. And we're like, what do you 1489 01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:32,920 think? That's a good time. 1490 01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,080 Yeah, that was yeah. Then we can just leave it at 1491 01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:36,360 that. Wasn't too long, wasn't too 1492 01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:37,880 short. They're good performances all 1493 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:41,960 around, I will say that. If we didn't have two pop up 1494 01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:46,040 performances from actors that I absolutely love, the movie 1495 01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,560 probably would have felt very flat for me. 1496 01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:53,520 But there are two sections of the movie where I there was 1 1497 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,560 actor. I clapped alone when he showed 1498 01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:59,480 up in the theatre. Did a solo clap to welcome him 1499 01:11:59,480 --> 01:12:04,200 into the movie and then let out like a huge just like laugh for 1500 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,800 the the other person who entered the movie. 1501 01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,600 And I think they they are just worth going to see the movie 1502 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,960 alone, right? So, and I think we can't spoil 1503 01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:14,560 that. In like 5 minutes, maybe we can 1504 01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,200 just have 30 seconds of spoilers. 1505 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:17,560 Have seen it. Yeah, that's a good idea. 1506 01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,600 And then people can skip. Around OK, before we get into 1507 01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:21,960 that, let's talk about. Let's tell you, though, if we 1508 01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:23,760 get into any spoilers. Let's talk about Glenn Powell, 1509 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:26,320 OK? I think this is the most I've 1510 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,480 ever liked Glenn Powell. I think yes, you're a long time 1511 01:12:29,480 --> 01:12:31,320 listener. You know we are Glenn Powell 1512 01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:35,440 dislikers. I don't want to say haters, but 1513 01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:39,280 mostly because to quote Mean Girls, stop trying to make Glenn 1514 01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,240 Powell happen. Hollywood and Kelsey's been on 1515 01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,520 this train. She has been writing the novel 1516 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,320 that the great the next Great American novel, Glenn. 1517 01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:47,600 Powell has become symbolic of the. 1518 01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,160 Hollywood white man that Hollywood is trying to shove in 1519 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,720 our faces all the time on on big screens. 1520 01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:55,640 What do you think about him in this movie though? 1521 01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,240 Because this might be his best performance, or at least top two 1522 01:12:58,240 --> 01:12:59,000 or three. Sorry for him. 1523 01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,120 Yeah, I think this is exactly. Where Glenn Powell should be. 1524 01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:04,320 This is where I liked him the most. 1525 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:08,120 It didn't feel like he was being pushed in my face as this, like, 1526 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:14,160 hot guy who's charming and I should love, like in a What was 1527 01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,120 the movie he was in with Sidney Sweeney? 1528 01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:17,520 Anyone but you. Yes. 1529 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:18,800 Yeah. Like the ROM coms? 1530 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,720 I have my personal Glenn Powell. Top 10 ready when you are do you 1531 01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:23,960 Oh my God OK I. Definitely want to hear it 1532 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,640 because I forget all the movies that he's in because he's just 1533 01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:30,200 like, yeah, he's just put in all these movies where it's like, 1534 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,000 isn't he like the hottest guy you've ever seen? 1535 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,760 And like, he's also like an every guy. 1536 01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:41,400 Like it's like stop. Like just he's #1 like it's so 1537 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,080 weird to see him and it's, and it's like this obviously like a 1538 01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:45,760 lot of other movies in Hollywood, but it's so weird to 1539 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:51,400 see him like playing a romantic like partner to all these like 1540 01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:55,080 really young woman. And it's like obviously seeing 1541 01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,880 like him play in roles that women are not allowed to have 1542 01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,720 when they show any signs of aging. 1543 01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,520 So it just feels like you're watching this like paradoxical, 1544 01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,360 like Hollywood double standard of aging in front of you. 1545 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,440 That's number one. And that Glenn Powell, that's 1546 01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:12,680 nothing personal with you know against you if you're listening 1547 01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:16,200 And but I will say. We got to get better wigs for my 1548 01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:17,120 guy. If he's not going to get the 1549 01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:18,760 hair transplant, well, he's probably working. 1550 01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,640 So he probably. Will get the hair transplant. 1551 01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,040 It's a little bit of a Chris Evans situation. 1552 01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:23,160 He's. Working so much, he needs to 1553 01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,320 take the. Work right now, yeah, but the 1554 01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,920 wigs are tough in this. Movie if they were they become a 1555 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:32,120 part of the plot him having wigs I think at one point because his 1556 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:35,160 hair changes up quite a bit and then he's wearing a beanie a lot 1557 01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,400 and so like I think they're they're really just trying to 1558 01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,360 disguise the fact that he is like in his mid 30s and he which 1559 01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:43,240 is fine yeah and but you have to convincingly believe that he's 1560 01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:46,120 the same age as like Margaret quality yes which they actually 1561 01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,440 they might be Margaret quality is just like gorgeous so I don't 1562 01:14:48,440 --> 01:14:50,040 know but we're but I mean the other. 1563 01:14:50,440 --> 01:14:52,760 Lead who I really like, Jessica Henwick. 1564 01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,960 She's really good in this. Yeah, she's great, but she at 1565 01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,080 least feels considerably younger. 1566 01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,560 OK, but regardless of of age, I'm just bringing it up because 1567 01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,240 of the, the, you know, double standard in Hollywood of like 1568 01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:09,040 not letting women act past a certain age or being like 1569 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:13,320 leading roles. It it just feels like he isn't 1570 01:15:14,440 --> 01:15:19,040 like, I don't know, he he is sort of like the lane of what 1571 01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:23,000 Brad Pitt was or George Clooney was or like, yeah, I have a take 1572 01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:23,840 on this. Yeah, just a lot. 1573 01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,320 Of like the the. Movie star, right, The white 1574 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,200 movie star that people are trying to, like, reintroduce 1575 01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:30,800 with. And this is probably part of my 1576 01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:34,240 hate of like, a Jacob Loardy and Austin Butler and a Glenn 1577 01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:35,240 Powell. Yeah. 1578 01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:39,800 And And so like, that's part of my like, you're like, angry at 1579 01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:40,840 the studio systems. Yeah. 1580 01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:42,240 But they also give me like the ick. 1581 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,560 Because of it too, because it's like part of the characters that 1582 01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:51,360 they're cast in have some sort of that that awareness of 1583 01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,400 casting in it. So anyway, but I think that he 1584 01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:59,560 is really like good in this particular lane of a movie. 1585 01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:03,680 That was just a fun time. I he was believable enough. 1586 01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:08,560 He didn't need to like be super funny because I don't think he's 1587 01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:13,360 like that funny. He has moments. 1588 01:16:13,480 --> 01:16:15,200 A lot of it plays. On like he. 1589 01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:19,760 Is attractive and being like subtle and so isn't that funny 1590 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:23,160 and it's like, no, not real. Like he's not being like Brad 1591 01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:27,640 Pitt hot, like chewing nachos while like he does something 1592 01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,320 wrong and leaves like a cell phone in the room and he tries 1593 01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:31,280 to do a little bit of that in the. 1594 01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:32,920 Running Man, take it from last year, in his past year. 1595 01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,400 Oh, I didn't see running Man. Yeah, it's not a very good 1596 01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:37,040 movie. But he tries. 1597 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:38,480 By the way, I was talking about oceans. 1598 01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,200 That one. But anyway, so we talked about 1599 01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,800 this in the car ride home. That Glenn Powell sort of feels 1600 01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:48,360 like the first Chachi PT actor, like the first AI actor and like 1601 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,720 respectfully, as much as I can mean respectfully, like he does 1602 01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,880 feel like an amalgamation of other actors where yes, Brad 1603 01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:57,200 Pitt, other male actors like that who have like ABS and a 1604 01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,640 Crimson chin that could like break a wall. 1605 01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,200 And they certainly identify that in this movie. 1606 01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,880 They're like, let's have him stick his chin out even more 1607 01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:06,880 like he did so many chin exercises. 1608 01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:08,800 His jaw is about to pop out of his body. 1609 01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,840 But the thing about Glenn Powell is he's like, they keep trying 1610 01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,480 to be like he's as grounded as Bruce Willis, and it's like he's 1611 01:17:15,480 --> 01:17:17,120 not. And they keep trying to be like, 1612 01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,200 he's as dramatically effortless as an everyman is Matt Damon, 1613 01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:22,640 and he's not. And they keep trying to be like, 1614 01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:27,720 he's as strong, charisma willed as Matthew McConaughey, and he's 1615 01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,800 not even close. And so like, it's strange just 1616 01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,680 to keep getting gas lit for this many. 1617 01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:34,680 Years, you know what I mean? It's. 1618 01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,720 Like we, I don't know who is saying that he is that person. 1619 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:40,200 You know what we do listen to the big picture a lot. 1620 01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:45,480 And Amanda, who I love one of my favorite podcasters ever and she 1621 01:17:45,480 --> 01:17:47,760 is in love with Glenn Powell. I would say Sean is also. 1622 01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:49,720 I guess the big picture in general. 1623 01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:51,240 I would, yeah. The the the. 1624 01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:53,960 Ringer, you know, is our big Glen Palace. 1625 01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:55,720 They've sort of helped make Glen Powell happen. 1626 01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:57,440 That is true, but they're the. Reasons. 1627 01:17:57,440 --> 01:18:00,000 I say to everyone, stop trying to make Glen Powell happen. 1628 01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,680 It's also a studio thing, though, obviously, with him 1629 01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:06,360 being in all these roles. Like, what was the movie that we 1630 01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:12,040 liked with Hitman? Yeah, yeah, Andrew, Arjona and 1631 01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,080 Hitman. Richard like so good in. 1632 01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:18,200 It and yeah but anyway, and he was fine there too I think the 1633 01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:21,840 how to make a killing and also the Linklater movie Hitman yeah 1634 01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:24,160 are good yeah those might be his two best performances. 1635 01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:27,680 I really think that a lot of his love stems from the earlier 1636 01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:29,960 Linklater movie, The baseball movie. 1637 01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:34,720 And there's just like a, a fandom base around that, that I, 1638 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,560 it's an earlier love that I will. 1639 01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,640 We're going about to get into whenever you want me to throw 1640 01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:40,640 the top down earlier. OK, Yeah, go. 1641 01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,320 For it all right, very quickly, we're not. 1642 01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:43,760 Going to talk about each one of these. 1643 01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:45,440 I'm just going to say them out loud. 1644 01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:49,000 You take it in and whatever you want to discuss, we can discuss 1645 01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:54,000 #10 Glen Powell's top 10, Spy Kids 3D number 9. 1646 01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:58,720 Stop it. I totally forgot. 1647 01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:00,200 Do you want to see? Look, I pulled it up. 1648 01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:05,040 Look it, he plays like that little twerp who argues with 1649 01:19:05,440 --> 01:19:06,880 Juby. What's his name? 1650 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,920 I forgot I forget his name. Judy, I think his name is. 1651 01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,200 I've seen Spy Kids. I love Spy Kids. 1652 01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:15,720 I don't want to rewatch it though because I feel like it 1653 01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:21,120 will ruin the experience for me, but Spy Kids 3D number 10. #9 1654 01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:24,480 Dark Knight Rises when Bane throws his head into the he's 1655 01:19:24,480 --> 01:19:26,440 like robbing the stock market. However you do that, he puts 1656 01:19:26,440 --> 01:19:32,080 like Ausb into the stock market and robs it #8 anyone but you. 1657 01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,960 Which is the Sydney Sweeney. Movie at #7 The. 1658 01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,840 Running man again, which I just said I saw last year. 1659 01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,880 Edgar Wright, It didn't totally work. 1660 01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:45,880 Michael Cerra is great in it. Number six twisters I forgot. 1661 01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:49,120 Didn't like the movie at all. And didn't really love his 1662 01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,040 character, but he was pretty convincing. 1663 01:19:51,440 --> 01:19:54,720 I thought, yeah, him and. Daisy Edgar Jones had like 1664 01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:56,400 absolutely no chemistry in that movie. 1665 01:19:56,440 --> 01:19:58,640 People love twisters though. I love the original. 1666 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:02,040 I mean, I love the original too. Yeah, but yeah, I thought he did 1667 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:08,040 a fine job of being like I am. Like playing on this idea of 1668 01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,520 like knowing I'm charming and right the, I don't know, like he 1669 01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:12,280 did a. Fine. 1670 01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:15,720 Job and accomplishing with the character dumb broke white man. 1671 01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:18,520 I'm actually a smart, rich white man. 1672 01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,000 Yeah, I was playing a cowboy. Yeah. 1673 01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:25,600 OK #5 everybody wants some. Which is the baseball movie. 1674 01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:29,760 You were. Yeah, I was talking to #4 Top 1675 01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:33,560 Gun, Maverick, We forget Tom Cruise. 1676 01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,680 Tried to make him happen actually might be the reason why 1677 01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:38,360 this. Conversation that this Glen 1678 01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:42,920 power I think that Tom. Cruise like must have tapped 1679 01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,280 people on the shoulder to raise him up. 1680 01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:46,640 He tried to do it. Miles Teller, too. 1681 01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:48,560 Yeah. Tom. 1682 01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:50,360 I mean, I don't know. I don't know. 1683 01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:51,400 Tom. Yeah. 1684 01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:52,560 Tom, we thought. We thought we. 1685 01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:54,920 Knew you and we. Yeah, you're weird and 1686 01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:58,080 everything, but we thought you'd have better taste. 1687 01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:01,040 No, he's. I'm just laughing because, like, 1688 01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:02,600 Tom is like, don't even see movies. 1689 01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:04,120 What? He's pretty good about going to 1690 01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:07,080 shout out people's movies and other actors and do the movies, 1691 01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:08,280 but yeah. I thought his casting. 1692 01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,320 Choices were sort of weird in type of Maverick. 1693 01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,800 I don't love Miles Teller or I don't really don't love I. 1694 01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:15,760 I felt that way too about Miles Teller. 1695 01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:19,120 Like obviously love Miles Teller and Whiplash, but the like 1696 01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:23,880 fratty vibe that Miles Teller had similar to Glenn Powell, 1697 01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,440 except Glenn Powell is a little bit like prettier. 1698 01:21:26,440 --> 01:21:30,480 Like seems like like he had a better skin care routine. 1699 01:21:30,480 --> 01:21:33,040 Like obviously it seems like he, I don't actually know anything 1700 01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:37,280 about his background, but he just looks wealthier like and so 1701 01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,160 like that's why Hollywood has put him into things. 1702 01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:42,720 But yeah, him and Miles Teller for similar reasons. 1703 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:44,600 It's like a post wedding crashers. 1704 01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,040 Generation, which is our generation. 1705 01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:53,200 Like basically 31 to 37 year olds who still find the Hangover 1706 01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:59,240 parts 2 and 3 funny. #3. Set it up One of the most 1707 01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:01,520 underrated romantic comedies of the last decade or two. 1708 01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:03,200 Who's in that? Who we? 1709 01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,600 Like Zoe or Deutsch? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1710 01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:07,960 He's actually very good. We saw it, but. 1711 01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:09,280 We also haven't seen him in a long time. 1712 01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:10,720 That's where he actually does try to play. 1713 01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:14,080 A normal dude and his hair is like down and he's not totally 1714 01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:17,800 jacked, he just fit #2 I have this movie How to Make a Killing 1715 01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:20,200 as his second best performance, which I think he's saying a lot 1716 01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:21,880 about his career. And then number one, I've 1717 01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,120 Hitman, which is easily his best performance. 1718 01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,800 I also find it weird that his last two movies, Hitman and this 1719 01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:28,880 film, which I guess aren't his last two because Running Man, 1720 01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:32,480 but Hitman and How to Make a Killing are basically a very, 1721 01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,800 very similar plot or at least character arc. 1722 01:22:37,480 --> 01:22:40,480 OK, So what else do we want to say about this movie? 1723 01:22:40,480 --> 01:22:41,960 And I and I do think he's funny when it's not. 1724 01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,680 To knowing, but it's like, let's do yeah, yeah, sorry. 1725 01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:45,520 Go ahead. That was it. 1726 01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,480 OK. Let's do like a quick spoiler. 1727 01:22:47,480 --> 01:22:50,320 Warning for like the next 45 seconds to a minute. 1728 01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,760 So skip if you have not seen this movie for like a minute for 1729 01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,160 how to make a killing. For how to make a killing. 1730 01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:56,320 Margaret Quali is in this movie. Yeah. 1731 01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:58,200 I like Margaret Quali. Yeah. 1732 01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,080 Loved her in the substance a year ago. 1733 01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:04,400 She feels either miscast or poorly written. 1734 01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:05,960 Her character being poorly written, so weirdly written. 1735 01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:07,400 I feel like she's like in a different movie. 1736 01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,400 Like it just always feels like I know it's sort of a intentional. 1737 01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,040 It's part of it, yeah. I just don't. 1738 01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,280 Like the choice I kind of wish. She was ripped out of the film, 1739 01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,000 and I don't like to conceive that she's the reason that 1740 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:17,320 everything falls apart. Me too. 1741 01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:18,480 Yeah. So I think. 1742 01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:19,560 It's just a bad writing. Yeah. 1743 01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:22,600 And their chemistry's off, like, in terms of what their 1744 01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:26,000 relationship is like, Yeah, you should really want them to bang. 1745 01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:29,760 Like that should be a big part of their their dynamic, but it 1746 01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,920 doesn't really come through. Yeah, now for the. 1747 01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:34,120 Supporting. Performances. 1748 01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:39,200 The MVPS of the movie, Zach Woods and Topher Grace. 1749 01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:43,120 Yeah, these are my applause. And welcome welcoming into the 1750 01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,280 movie. Zach Woods in particular. 1751 01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:48,120 I clapped for him, which I normally don't try to make a 1752 01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:51,720 scene in the movie or anything like that, but really, really 1753 01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:55,240 loved seeing his face. And I didn't, I mean, his 1754 01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:58,920 character was like a little weird and didn't really give him 1755 01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:02,800 his full range, I will say of comedy, but I just appreciate 1756 01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,160 seeing him in anything. They're really funny. 1757 01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:09,320 Zach Woods in particular, as a sort of like hipster artist. 1758 01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,720 Was just fantastic and. He's also a great follow on his 1759 01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:16,120 nicknames to everybody. Zach Woods is just, yeah, 1760 01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,280 genuine. Genuinely just really funny. 1761 01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:23,320 Topher Grace We just have like a very nostalgic relationship too, 1762 01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,080 because of that. 70s Show seems like one of the only good people 1763 01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:29,000 to emerge out of that show. He's been playing very strange 1764 01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:32,720 villains for the last 20 years. He obviously, he was Venom in 1765 01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,320 Spider Man 3. Then he was the head of the Ku 1766 01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:40,080 Klux Klan in Spike Lee's movie Black Klansmen, and he's like 1767 01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:41,880 strangely very good in that role. 1768 01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:44,720 And he's done all their villain performances too. 1769 01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:48,400 And so, like, now he's back as a kind of like villain adjacent 1770 01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:52,840 role here where he almost chops off the head of our lead 1771 01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:55,920 character Glenn Powell's character with a with a sword. 1772 01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,160 Yeah. Anyways, he's very funny. 1773 01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:00,400 And I, I really loved their parts of the movie. 1774 01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:01,720 Me too. I love the kind of righteous. 1775 01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:05,520 Gemstones, you know, small bit that we got there with Eric 1776 01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,120 Corman. So my thing about this film is 1777 01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:08,520 it was marketed. As we're going to go through a 1778 01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,560 family tree and meet a lot of surprise actors they didn't know 1779 01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:13,920 were cast in the film. And that was only two people, 1780 01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:15,520 really. There was a third guy, but he 1781 01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:17,320 was like a, you know, I don't know, his face. 1782 01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:18,800 Yeah. I mean, I thought there was 1783 01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:23,240 going to be. Like a succession, like going 1784 01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:26,880 through the the family tree vibe, like we get like the 1785 01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,880 politics between the family members. 1786 01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:34,240 Like, I mean, I wasn't expecting like so much depth, but I guess 1787 01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:37,280 it did feel a little flat, only like going to those two 1788 01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,400 characters really try to do a Tom Shiv thing at the. 1789 01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:43,240 End yes, doesn't really work. Yeah, but I genuinely thought 1790 01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:46,560 we're going to be introduced to like 7 be actors that were a ton 1791 01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,800 of fun and I was really excited for that. 1792 01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:52,000 Yeah, sort of like a Kill Bill. Situation like we have different 1793 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:55,520 chapters or a crime one O 1. Situation because if we can get 1794 01:25:55,520 --> 01:26:00,720 into crime one O 1 now OK yeah so sell us on it yeah so I'm 1795 01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,320 going to. Start this a little differently. 1796 01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:06,440 Because I think usually we'll do like a little reaction or I 1797 01:26:06,440 --> 01:26:09,080 would just do a reaction here. But I'll what I will say is I 1798 01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,480 actually don't want to say much of anything about this movie. 1799 01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:15,760 So my my Cell is that I had such a good time with this, not 1800 01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,160 because it's a masterpiece by any means or super original, 1801 01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:19,520 because it's neither of those things. 1802 01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:23,120 It is sort of a like a crime thriller that's going to feel 1803 01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:25,520 familiar and super slick and sleek. 1804 01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,880 And it is 100, a $100 million Chris Hemsworth vehicle. 1805 01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,240 And it feels like a little bit of a boys movie, but it actually 1806 01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:34,120 is more than that, but not much more than that. 1807 01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:35,760 But we don't make movies like this anymore. 1808 01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:39,480 And people really wanted people to go and watch the RIP on 1809 01:26:39,480 --> 01:26:41,200 Netflix a few weeks ago or a month ago. 1810 01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,160 And I thought that movie was fucking trash. 1811 01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,880 And I do not think we should be supporting those movies, even 1812 01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:48,640 though I like those actors in that film. 1813 01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:52,360 And some of them I love, like Steven Young or Tiana Taylor or 1814 01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,280 about Damon and Ben Affleck. And like there's a whole massive 1815 01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,040 crew in that film that's really talented. 1816 01:26:57,320 --> 01:26:59,200 But I think that that movie was just bad. 1817 01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:04,520 This movie is one of the coolest adult crime dramas we've gotten 1818 01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,760 in years. It comes from the director of 1819 01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,880 American Animals and if you haven't seen that movie, I do 1820 01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:11,880 recommend watching American Animals before going to see 1821 01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:13,840 this. That was a ton of fun and really 1822 01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,720 interesting. Sort of a bummer film, but I 1823 01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:19,360 think also weirdly funny because of how absurd it is. 1824 01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:22,160 Sort of like The Mastermind. If you've seen the Mastermind 1825 01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:25,840 you will like American Animals but crime one O 1. 1826 01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,240 Don't watch trailer, do not scroll the cast list. 1827 01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:29,920 Don't even look it up on letterboxed. 1828 01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:31,800 Just go see it on a Friday night. 1829 01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:36,320 Get some popcorn, have a beer. 3 1/2 four-star movie experience. 1830 01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,400 You'll have a good time. I think almost guaranteed based 1831 01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:41,280 on some of the comments on TikTok on my video. 1832 01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:45,280 Not guaranteed. Well, I wonder also like that's. 1833 01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,280 A movie that I think general audiences are going to see like 1834 01:27:48,280 --> 01:27:51,400 a lot of people like maybe I don't know if actually how to 1835 01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,520 make a killing would be in the same category, but it feels 1836 01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:56,280 like, you know, when you get like a weathering Heights 1837 01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:58,560 actually this whole episode, right, of like movies that a lot 1838 01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,040 of people are going to see. It's not like, you know, the 1839 01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:05,800 opening weekend of like Eddington or that's maybe still 1840 01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:07,640 even like a little bit more mainstream, but whatever, you 1841 01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:09,200 know what I'm talking about, Like movies sometimes that we 1842 01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:13,440 tend to cover that people who are keyed into like what's 1843 01:28:13,440 --> 01:28:17,000 happening in movies coming out. No weapons is still like. 1844 01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:18,000 Big. I guess I don't get to 1845 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:19,880 understand what you're. Saying I'm saying that like I. 1846 01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:24,880 Think that when you hit like when you hit the the general 1847 01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:28,600 audience of like TikTok audiences who also like watch 1848 01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:30,720 the RIP. Oh I see, if that makes sense. 1849 01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:34,480 We're like going. To crime thrillers, Like they 1850 01:28:34,480 --> 01:28:39,120 might just be out on certain elements of a genre movie. 1851 01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,120 Does that make sense? No, I get what you mean. 1852 01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,080 Non theatre goers. That were convinced to go to the 1853 01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:47,120 theatre being like oh who like think the RIP is good is what? 1854 01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:51,200 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like, but I'm, I don't know. 1855 01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,640 I'm excited to see it. I love Heat. 1856 01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:56,040 Yeah, it is very all the movies that. 1857 01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,520 You. Very French Connection, maybe at 1858 01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:00,920 that caliber, but a little bit of the town. 1859 01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:04,040 Just like influenced, not like oh, I'm thinking it says that 1860 01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:05,480 what you just said the same caliber. 1861 01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,840 It's a very controlled, smooth film making style too. 1862 01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:12,240 Some great chase sequences here, like R chase sequences, good 1863 01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:15,720 motorcycle chase sequences, great editing in those 1864 01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:17,360 sequences. Sometimes like chase sequences 1865 01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:20,400 are like really well shot and really well lit to put. 1866 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:22,200 The editing is like super maximalist. 1867 01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,880 That's fucking annoying. And this was the best chase 1868 01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:26,880 sequence I've seen since the Batman and that movie came out 1869 01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:30,720 like 4 years ago now. So not L ambu LA. 1870 01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:32,960 Ants. Ambu LA ants. 1871 01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:36,680 Has other things going for it like the two brothers in that 1872 01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:40,840 film who I find find to be very warm and loving toward one 1873 01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,880 another and then that their music sequence that they have 1874 01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,560 together there are other things to love about Andy L ants 1875 01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:51,640 outside of the drone Michael Bay drones flying around shooting 1876 01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:53,560 the ambulance driving out through LA. 1877 01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:58,040 There is a lot of other reasons to see this movie that is mostly 1878 01:29:58,040 --> 01:29:59,680 in the cast that I cannot mention. 1879 01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:05,720 But I think this supporting cast or crime one O 1 is not phoning 1880 01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:08,720 it in in $100 million movie where they, you know, 1881 01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:11,600 theoretically should be phoning it in and just taking the money. 1882 01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:15,040 But there's a really exciting group of cast members here. 1883 01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:18,480 There's a villain performance in particular that was really fun. 1884 01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,720 So I don't want again, I don't want to spoil it, but I'm 1885 01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:22,840 excited to see it. I wish I. 1886 01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,920 Went to see it with you. So that's crime one O 1. 1887 01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:29,640 I recommend going to see that again ASAP because I don't know 1888 01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:31,200 how long it's going to be in theaters because I think it's 1889 01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,680 going to lose some money, but it's exciting for mid budget 1890 01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:37,320 adult cinema to come back as it's disappearing so quickly. 1891 01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,680 All right, that was the end of our February lineup of what 1892 01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:43,960 we've been watching from movies to television and the three new 1893 01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:46,520 movie releases. Again, I think we're going to be 1894 01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:49,320 back talking about other movies that are hurting theaters pretty 1895 01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:51,960 soon or have already hit theaters like the Nirvana, the 1896 01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:56,400 Band the Show movie, and maybe Scream. 1897 01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:59,440 We'll see, but we'll likely be back just on Patreon. 1898 01:30:59,440 --> 01:31:03,240 As for right now, because we're just doing Sinners Tomorrow Part 1899 01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:06,320 2 because obviously we did Sinners episode that was a good 1900 01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:10,600 episode from like 8 months ago and we'll be deep diving Sinners 1901 01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:12,000 now. We've had some time to sit with 1902 01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:14,440 it and as people probably remember from our episode on 1903 01:31:14,440 --> 01:31:18,680 Sinners, we were like really impressed by the filmmaking, the 1904 01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:22,960 performances, the multi tone, multi genre concoction that Ryan 1905 01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:24,840 Coogler cooked up. He's also one of our favorite 1906 01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:28,560 directors of his like that age group, that peer group of like 1907 01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:30,320 Damien Chazelle, Greta Gerwig, etcetera. 1908 01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:34,680 But that was my least favorite movie that he's that he's made 1909 01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:38,680 of of that group of genre blockbusters of Black Panther 1910 01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:42,640 and Creed and now this movie. And now I'm re watching it and 1911 01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:45,120 doing prep for this. I'm like, I think I'm coming 1912 01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:48,040 around. I think I'm like, this is better 1913 01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:49,800 than Black Panther. And I think it might be in 1914 01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:52,160 competition with like Creed, which is pretty crazy because I 1915 01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:54,080 love Creed. Yeah, so I love Creed too. 1916 01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:56,440 We. Did a whole like Creed. 1917 01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:00,200 I think we well, I think we just meant to actually just do Creed 1918 01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:03,240 and then we couldn't like help but talk about all of the 1919 01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:05,800 creeds. But yeah, no, I mean, I'm 1920 01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,120 excited to talk about it. I was excited to talk about like 1921 01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:12,560 revisiting it. Michael B Jordan Jimmy Fingers 1922 01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:16,080 Now that we have a 2 a new relationship to we can't call 1923 01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:17,800 him that we cannot call. Jack O'Connell. 1924 01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:19,560 Jimmy Fingers. I mean, that's not even really 1925 01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:21,720 his name. That's just like, I know Jimmy 1926 01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:23,240 and his fingers well. No, no, no. 1927 01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:25,080 He's, I think he's. Jimmy Crystal, right? 1928 01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:30,040 But he's Jimmy Fingers to me. I know and I can't and I can't 1929 01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:33,680 not talk about it on the center's episode as well. 1930 01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:36,120 But yeah, no, I'm excited to talk about like Michael B Jordan 1931 01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:38,960 and Ryan Coogler, all the good performances. 1932 01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:42,080 But I think I still like even in revisiting it have a lot of 1933 01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:47,640 similar takes on like the who's the actor? 1934 01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,720 Marvel Hailee Steinfeld. Yes, Hailee Steinfeld. 1935 01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:56,640 I still have like similar takes about her character, some cringy 1936 01:32:56,640 --> 01:33:00,000 stuff. But yeah, I mean, like, it's 1937 01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:01,720 it's a really fun movie. It is. 1938 01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:03,000 It's a good movie. It is. 1939 01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:05,480 A flawed film, but like, a culturally significant movie, 1940 01:33:05,480 --> 01:33:07,600 but like also one of the most ambitious blockbusters we've 1941 01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:10,000 gotten in years. And it's just strange that we 1942 01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:11,480 have to be like, but it's flawed. 1943 01:33:11,480 --> 01:33:14,240 And here's why. But yeah, we will be talking 1944 01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:16,920 about the flaws, obviously, that we think are flaws tomorrow on 1945 01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:18,400 that deep dive. So check us out on Patreon. 1946 01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,160 The description this episode follows on Letterbox. 1947 01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:22,520 Tick tock, Instagram, social media at large. 1948 01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:24,480 And we'll be back soon. Peace out. 1949 01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:25,120 Bye.