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Doctor Ferdinand Santos, thank 

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you for joining me in the 
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Thank you, Jeremy. 
Thank you for having. 

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Me, the pleasure is all mine. 
I was just saying to you a 

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moment ago, the timing of this 
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of that NASA launch that's 
occurring I believe tomorrow 

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night US time. 
Yeah, it's true. 

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Yeah. 
It's interesting how they're 

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proceeding with the what's 
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to convince maybe themselves 
more than us that space can't be

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conquered. 
So just a quick run down my 

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background. 
So I did. 

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I did view your video with Bart 
Surreal a couple weeks ago. 

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Very interesting. 
I've been looking at scientism, 

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which I've been writing about 
under various pseudonyms for 

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quite a long time. 
By scientism, I mean the 

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corruption and the perversion 
even of real science. 

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And this goes back to the 17th 
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So my background is science and 
physics and IT, and currently 

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I'm working in AI and I'm 
building AI models. 

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So AI is a very interesting 
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1. 
So that's my background. 

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That's kind of my framework of 
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And I've been educated in 
different countries. 

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And it's not, it's not that the 
education is important. 

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In fact, I think the education 
for many of us is a problem 

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because you're indoctrinated. 
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are chopped out of you at a very
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So it's not that the education 
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It's worth. 
I was telling James Delingpole a

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couple weeks ago, we did a 
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have very different views on the
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universe. 
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thinking. 
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thinking to the narrative. 
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example, I, I build software. 
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no, it's works. 
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I tested it to fill. 
That's what that's my world 

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wrote a post to my sub stack 
about Yuri Gagarin and what I 

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call the Gagarin gag or fraud in
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evidence he went anywhere. 
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what they give you. 
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scientism has always been, I'm 
not going to argue outside your 

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framework because I'm trained 
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I know what you're saying to me.
I understand the mass, I'm going

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to argue inside the framework 
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you or I'll use it with you if 
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So if you go back in history and
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I take Einstein to the witch 
shed and there's nothing left of

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them. 
You know, the entrails are burnt

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because I can go. 
I understand what they're trying

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to say and do, but I also 
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philosophically driven. 
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And so I think a wake up call 
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scientism was the corona 
pandemic, which you've, you've 

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talked about and, and understand
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I, I don't believe in viruses 
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exist. 
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and heard about Corona from a 
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November 2019, I had no idea 
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He said, go defensive sell 
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But I know Corona from the US 
military intelligence operations

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of the 1960s. the US had a 
military operation called Corona

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in the 1960s, a spy operation. 
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OK, I know it's a fraud. 
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He says there's something out of
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So I don't believe in viruses, 
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narrative. 
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trying to sell you during the 
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scientific evidence for their 
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Their story changed all the time
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it was transmitted, how it was 
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populations and countries. 
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asymptomatic, you're not sick, 
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you know, in a car accident and 
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covered by the PCR test, another
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So I think the corona pandemic, 
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operation, obviously. 
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there's always someone, there's 
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throne of the science. 
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experiments in history and all 
the things we're told to believe

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the speed of light. 
For instance, I posted my sub 

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stack last week that the speed 
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relative to The Big Bang his 
base is wrong and you can RIP it

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apart. 
You don't need a PhD, you don't 

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need an ology degree. 
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sense, understanding what 
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it. 
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maths and understand basic 
physical sciences, you know that

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the equations are wrong and you 
can prove the wrong and you can 

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prove the right answer which has
nothing to do with their answer.

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So this is what I've been doing 
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And in the context of, of space,
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what the 1990s. 
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Bart Stabriel a long time ago. 
I read his books, I've seen his 

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movies and videos, lots of other
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And he knows a lot about the 
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know about it. 
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certain domain. 
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the, the personality or 
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science person, he comes at it 
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angle. 
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that's where the NASA fanboys 
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As you know, if you mentioned 
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Apollo 11, which is so obvious. 
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photography. 
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I can look at the photo and I 
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see background and I can see the
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So I don't know anything about 
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a backdrop there. 
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before Bart started talking 
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There's been analysis done 
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universities and at home by 
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labs, by professionals looking 
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And 40 years ago, it was a term 
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If those analogue photos are 
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stop. 
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arguments against light and 
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other stuff that Bart talks 
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and YouTube all day long. 
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are composites, those analogue 
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It's as simple as that. 
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argument. 
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you don't hear about this 
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So three years ago. 
I'm an I'm an AII know the power

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of neural networks. 
I know what they can do. 

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They they ran, the Russians ran 
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through the neural networks, 9 
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conclusion was they're frauds or
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I mean that that the argument is
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Now I don't even look at the 
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from a physical and IT 
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Is it feasible? 
Is it possible if I pull up my 

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calculator, new probability 
theory, It doesn't make any 

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sense what they're telling me. 
That's the way I look at it. 

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It's a little bit different than
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And Bart's viewpoint is entirely
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domain expert. 
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lights and the way he can do 
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How he can make composites and 
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I have no clue about that, but I
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But he's not the only one. 
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him who've said the same thing, 
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What Bart doesn't say and what 
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write in my sub stack that there
is there there is the CIA in the

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in the 1960s developed it has to
be one of the greatest 

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engineering simulation sites 
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Everything devised or thought 
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So my thesis is pretty simple. 
NASA was formed in 58 to take 

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all the US agencies contractors 
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under one umbrella, right? 
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coordinate the activities. 
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The CIA in Langley, Virginia set
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centre for NASA. 
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CIA and NASA are like peas in a 
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They're the same. 
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NASA always has. 
NASA is part of the US military,

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always has been. 
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the 1950s? 
We want a militarised space, we 

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want to nuclearize it, and we 
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So people don't understand this.
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administration, they're talking 
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and using climate as a weapon. 
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Tesla created a DEW weapon, 
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He demonstrated New York in I 
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He brought down a building with 
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They took it from Tesla. 
His designs, they have DEW 

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weapons. 
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earthquake, for instance. 
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people online who claim that 
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ocean are, are somehow generated
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But geoengineering is a fact. 
Climate control is a fact. 

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We see it every day. 
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was we want a nuclearized space 
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the Soviets, he who controls 
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planet, right? 
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Eisenhower administration. 
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It's associated with the CIA. 
The CIA sets up this massive 

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facility in Langley, Virginia in
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facility to simulate the entire 
Apollo missions, end to end, end

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to end. 
So I have a Substack article. 

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I go through the five main 
modules and you could, you could

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simulate all of the journeys, 
you could simulate all of the 

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events, you could simulate the 
tracking, you could simulate 

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events that will give concern or
pause or maybe can't create a 

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problem or an issue. 
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everything. 
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into the atmosphere and going to
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back could be simulated there. 
It's quite astounding. 

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And they've, they've now started
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proof that the Americans never 
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besides the photos, it would 
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And they were absolutely wild. 
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it's simply this fact. 
I looked at the lunar module. 

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I was very interested in this. 
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in building things or how, how, 
how, how is the hardware work, 

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the software, you know, we'll 
give it to the Gagarin gag in a 

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second. 
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with the lunar module, but you 
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us. 
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orbiting the moon 30 miles above
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There is a lunar module that 
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lands on the on the on the lunar
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OK, so to land, you need to have
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So there's no flame, there's no 
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there's no noise. 
So the fanboys go crazy. 

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They start invoking magic words 
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There's no vacuum anywhere. 
There's no vacuum in space. 

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There's no vacuum in the moon. 
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Because they tell us their own 
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gravity. 
What is gravity? 

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Gravity is an energy pushing up 
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It's a it's a physical force 
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medium. 
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your chair, we say 1G. 
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strong atmosphere is dense. 
If I go to the ISS, which if you

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believe the narrative is 250 
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the atmosphere, even though it's
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atmosphere goes up for about 
1000 miles. 

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miles away. 
So up to 1000 miles. 

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We have an atmosphere that's 
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the medium, the ISS, the 
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etcetera, make it far less 
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something less dense than it is 
sitting in our chairs. 

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But on the moon and they're 
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gravity. 
So gravity, energy, radiation, 

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photons, light, whatever, need 
something to travel through. 

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It's quite obvious. 
No medium, no exchange. 

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So it's, it's, it's clear. 
That's how, that's how life 

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If you're looking at photons, 

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Starlight coming from space, it 
has to travel through something.

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It can't be a vacuum because 
that means nothing. 

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You can argue the space is low 
energy molecular diffusion, 

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therefore different sets of 
properties. 

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The electromagnetism will work 
differently there than on Earth.

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100% agree with that. 
That's not what they tell us. 

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They tell us it's a vacuum. 
It's not a vacuum. 

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The moon, sorry, I have to do my
hand wave here with the light 

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sensor. 
So the moon has something that 

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transfers gravity. 
And so this is something that 

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they had never explained to us. 
So the moon faces the sun, it 

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doesn't change. 
The face to the moon never 

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changes. 
So what's generating what they 

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say is once it's gravity that 
that needs to be, that needs to 

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be assessed and determined. 
But whatever it is, if you have 

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a structure that's hitting down 
towards a surface, there's sound

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vibrations coming through the 
structure. 

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That's basic physics. 
So if there's any medium 

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whatsoever or there's any 
structure whatsoever, you will 

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hear and feel the sound. 
So I asked one of the fanboys 

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once the the lunar module, the 
this the rocket, they had 

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£10,000 thruster engine. 
That's what they say in their 

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designs. 
That's the size of it. 

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I asked the fanboy in a podcast 
how many horsepower lawnmower 

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engines do you think that is and
he didn't really understand the 

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question. 
I said take the the rocket. 

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OK, translate that into 
lawnmowers on your street. 

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The PVC people pushing around 5 
horsepower lawnmowers is the 

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average. 
How many lawnmowers do you think

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it is? 
He had no idea. 

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OK, You don't need to have an 
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figure it out. 
It's about 18,000. 

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So here's the story they're 
telling us. 

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We have two guys, you know, St 
Buzz of the bottles. 

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I call them Aldrin the Drunk and
St Neil the Strong arm. 

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You know, Apostle St Neil. 
And they're going down in a 

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module. 
It's it's it's a homeless 

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shelter. 
It's, it's a flimsy thing you 

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put your fist through. 
They're they're 2 feet above the

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flooring. 
So maybe there's flooring and 

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subflooring on cavity. 
What whatever the construction 

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is, they're 2 feet or 18 inches 
above 18,000 lawn mowers. 

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Now, if you did that on Earth, 
as I said to the fanboy, in any 

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structure on this planet in this
dense atmosphere, you go deaf 

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immediately. 
You'll be screaming in agony. 

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You'll not be talking on your 
phone to Houston X miles away in

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in a very. 
Oh, yeah. 

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We're at 505 hundred feet, 100 
feet. 

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Oh, yeah. 
We landed. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
OK, let's get the shoes on, 

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guys. 
Let's go outside. 

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That that was a simulation. 
You're listening to it. 

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It's a joke. 
You're on 18,000 lawn mowers and

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on this planet you'd probably 
would die. 

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Are you being shocked? 
For the rest of your life your 

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organs would be damaged. 
So on the moon they say 1-6 

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gravity, but there's still a 
structure and there's still 

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something there. 
So take 18,000 times by .16. 

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You're still going to be deaf. 
You're still going to hear the 

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noise in the background and you 
still won't be able to 

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communicate. 
And if you do communicate, your 

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voice modulation is going to be 
rising and falling like like a 

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mountain range and you're 
terrified to start with because 

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you've never been here before. 
You have no, no idea what you're

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doing. 
So it's just not real. 

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If you listen to the 
communications and you hear no 

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noise in the background, they 
always evoke the magic word 

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vacuum. 
That's not physics. 

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Physics is is a translation of 
sound vibrations, which are 

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waves of energy through a 
structure. 

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Can you imagine sitting on 
18,000 lawnmowers? 

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Can you imagine that? 
And, and that's the story. 

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The story is that we took 18,000
lawnmowers down to the surface 

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and you hear nothing because of 
magic words insert here. 

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It doesn't make sense. 
So then my second question, 

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follow up question to the fanboy
was show me on Earth that 

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magical routine that you guys 
perfected up there 30 miles 

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above the moon's orbit surface. 
You're orbiting around that 

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Collins is there. 
You detach the lunar module with

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the 18,000 lawn mowers. 
You land on the planet surface. 

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OK, In violation of any number 
of physical laws, somehow you do

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it. 
Where did you do it? 

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Do that in this planet. 
Show me where you trained for 

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that on this planet. 
Show the simulation. 

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Show the material. 
They have nothing. 

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They can show you nothing. 
How did you perfect that hang? 

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On. 
Hang on, hang on. 

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Didn't Neil Armstrong apparently
test that and break his collar 

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bone or something? 
Yeah, he. 

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Went all over the place. 
It's a homeless shelter. 

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Imagine the rocket thrust. 
He wasn't even on the full 

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rocket thrust so he couldn't 
control it. 

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It's like putting 18,000 
lawnmowers on top of a little 

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canopy structure and then doing 
one of these and trying to get 

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up. 
You're trying to raise it, 

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you're trying to vertically lift
it, vertically landed, you're 

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trying to manoeuvre it. 
So this is what they're trying 

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to do. 
So if you leave the, the command

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module is circling, you have to 
leave and you're going to enter 

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the moon at a certain angle. 
So one of the, the problems with

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the narratives of the 1960s 
that's never discussed is the 

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complicated piloting and 
manoeuvring of something like a 

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lunar module, but also something
like a capsule that Gagarin 

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supposedly sat in. 
They're doing all sorts of 

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complicated by their own designs
with their own information. 

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What based on what they tell us,
they're doing all sorts of 

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complicated manoeuvres that were
never tried on this planet. 

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So how did it work first time 
in, in, in on the moon. 

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It's impossible to even imagine 
that the probability theory, if 

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you apply probability theory, 
very basic probability theory to

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that is zero. 
It's, it's less than 5%, it's 

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insignificant. 
Statistically speaking, it means

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it didn't happen. 
You have to prove first that you

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did it here on this planet. 
Now you cannot replicate 18,000 

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lawn mowers in this planet 
because you'd kill the person 

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inside. 
So that's what Armstrong was 

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playing around with something 
that was a fraction of the 

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horsepower that they supposedly 
used in the moon. 

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That's the only explanation. 
It's the only logical 

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explanation. 
There's no possibility he sat on

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18,000 lawn mowers. 
I've seen the videos and it's a 

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small craft. 
It it's almost, it's almost like

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a big drone is what it is. 
And there's no way that 

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replicates what they're telling 
us they did on the moon. 

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Again, no flames, no hole, no 
dust, a vertical landing. 

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Then how do they get off the 
moon? 

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There's no fuel, so there's no 
flames. 

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This video is so ridiculous. 
It's, it's embarrassing, it's so

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bad, but this, so This is why I 
go back to Langley. 

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What did Langley have? 
Black curtains everywhere. 

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I mean Langley black curtains, I
mean that was her thing, you 

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know, back in black and they had
the world's biggest gantry 

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crane, which is a lifting crane.
And so you're dealing with a 

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multi tonne modules, 4 or five 
tonne lunar module simulators. 

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The gantry crane is more than 
big enough to pick it up and 

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swing it, more than big enough 
and strong enough to drop it 

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back down. 
That's why there's no flame. 

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The easiest, most scientific, 
logical explanation why there's 

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no flame for the LM is that the 
gantry crane behind against the 

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black curtain just dropped it. 
And that's what you see, and 

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that's what you see when it's 
lifted off and you only see 

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about 30 or 40 feet. 
Why is that? 

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Because that's the crane working
and then it swings it out of 

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sight. 
That's what they're doing. 

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That's the most logical 
explanation. 

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You don't need to go into 
physical theatrics or into what 

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the fanboys talk about. 
It's this logical production 

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theatre that NASA and Hollywood 
are very good at making, 

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excellent at making. 
They're making this type of 

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thing. 
Back in the 50s, Walt Disney was

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making films with space that I 
think provide a baseline for for

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Kubrick and friends. 
Kubrick comes out with 2001 

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Space Odyssey. 
It looks real, doesn't it? 

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If you've seen the movie and you
can replicate that with AI now 

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deep fake AI can replicate 2001 
Space Odyssey and you don't know

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you're looking at AI and I could
rename it SpaceX. 

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Here is Musk and friends on the 
SpaceX Odyssey 2026. 

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You wouldn't have a clue what 
you're looking at. 

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So this is what they're good at.
It's image management. 

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But the the, the lie is in how 
they do it. 

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If you pay attention, you don't 
need an ology degree or to have 

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advanced education. 
You just need to have a critical

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thinking skill and understand 
that it doesn't add up. 

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If you're landing something, 
there has to be a flame and 

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that's the dead giveaway there. 
So you know it's a fraud or you 

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or you have questions about it. 
And then if you're saying I did,

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I did the landing on the moon, a
normal person will say that's 

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fantastic. 
Can you show me your test data 

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on on this planet? 
I want to see everything. 

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I'm very interested in this. 
How did you guys get so smart? 

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How did you guys deport or 
decouple that lunar module 

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homeless shelter from the from 
that capsule that 30 miles in 

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altitude? 
That's amazing guys. 

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How'd you do that? 
They can't tell you. 

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There's no plans. 
Like Bart said, they destroyed 

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everything. 
They destroyed even those 

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designs. 
They never had them. 

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But if they didn't have them, 
they destroyed them. 

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And that technology is something
you would have kept obviously, 

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because that's one of their 
great problems. 

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I did a probability analysis on 
my sub stack looking at Ed Musk 

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and it's Mars nonsense. 
But you have to be, I think you 

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have to be cognitively disabled.
I mean, I think you have to be 

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really mentally disconnected 
from reality to tell someone 

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you're going to Mars. 
I mean this guy Musk is telling 

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people he's going to colonise 
Mars by 2050 with 1,000,000 

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Earthlings. 
That's what he said and it's a 

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public record. 
He said by between 2030 and 

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2050, his Starship, which has 
never got off the launchpad. 

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His Starship is a big shuttle. 
You remember the shuttle from 

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the 80s and 90's? 
The shuttle was a huge, huge 

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creation, a multi. 
I can't remember the tonnage of 

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it. 
It was massive. 

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It was 300 feet or so in height.
It was wide. 

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And a Starship that Musk has 
imitates that. 

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But it's a vertically taking off
and vertically landing concept, 

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same as this Falcon 9 SpaceX 
rockets. 

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They go up and they come back 
down. 

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They go up 50 miles and then 
vertically land back down on 

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special paths. 
So a question to Musk would be, 

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if you're going to vertically 
land on Mars, where are the 

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paths? 
How are you going to land there?

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So they'll come back with some 
word cell. 

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It's about doing Apollo 11. 
They're going to orbit. 

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They're going to. 
OK, so show me on Earth where 

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you've done that. 
There's no proof of it. 

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So that's just common sense. 
You want to see the evidence for

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their claims because with AI now
they can't produce absolutely 

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anything and we don't know what 
we're looking at. 

452
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,400
As I said, the James Delling 
pool is looking through a very 

453
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,480
dark window. 
You can't really see inside. 

454
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,560
We're not invited into the ISSI 
have no idea of the ISS 250 

455
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,320
miles up. 
I see lots of fraud, lots of 

456
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,440
images, lots of videos. 
I know they're doing shots from 

457
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,640
the zero gravity vomit comet 
plane, as they call it, going up

458
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,600
and and and and doing a 
parabolic arc to generate the 

459
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,840
weightlessness. 
We all know that. 

460
00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:18,280
So I don't know what I'm looking
at. 

461
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,600
Is it real? 
The, the, the, the zero gravity 

462
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,480
plane is the same size as the 
ISS, Exactly the same size. 

463
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,880
The ISS looks like a large 
Boeing jetliner in terms of its 

464
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,440
size and structure. 
So what am I looking at? 

465
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,400
Who knows? 
No idea. 

466
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,960
You see harnesses, you see 
wires, you see women astronauts 

467
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,520
with stupid hairdos and perms. 
It's just ridiculous. 

468
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,400
So is IISS real? 
I don't know. 

469
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,680
But the ISS is part of some 
logistical system they're going 

470
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,720
to build from the Earth to the 
moon. 

471
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,320
ISS was part of that. 
So getting back to logic and 

472
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,640
physical science. 
So as Bart mentioned, must said 

473
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:01,400
it takes 9 refuels at least for 
SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket and 

474
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,080
capsule to go to the moon. 
That's nine. 

475
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,880
OK, so Apollo didn't have 9, 
Apollo 11 did not have 9. 

476
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,400
So on my sub stack, I went 
through von von Braun, the Nazi 

477
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,680
who led the Apollo programme. 
He said Empire State Building 

478
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,880
size and volume necessary to go 
to the moon. 

479
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,600
So the Saturn 5 rocket, if you 
want to be generous about it, if

480
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,600
you look at the absolute volume 
in, in, in, in cubic 

481
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,680
measurements, the absolute 
volume is 1 to 10%. 

482
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,280
So they had maybe 10% of the 
fuel they're burning 20 tonnes a

483
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,040
second to get out of the 
atmosphere and maybe 10%. 

484
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,080
So how do they get back? 
There's no fuel. 

485
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,400
So if Musk is right, it's 9. 
NASA says no Musk, it's not 9, 

486
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,920
it's 15. 
So NASA disagrees with Musk. 

487
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,080
They're arguing with each other.
Or how many refuels to the moon?

488
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,920
So take that and go to Mars. 
So how many logistical stations 

489
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,640
do you need to get from Earth to
the moon? 

490
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,960
And you have to just have to ask
yourself, why would I bother? 

491
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,560
That's another argument. 
I think the moon's a complete, 

492
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,120
complete waste of time. 
But then between the moon and 

493
00:24:56,120 --> 00:25:00,880
Mars, how can you possibly do a 
moon to Mars mission without 

494
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,320
logistical supplies, fuel, food,
it's 4 to 10 months journey. 

495
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,440
You're going to have sickness. 
You're going to have all sorts 

496
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,480
of other parameters and 
variables at work. 

497
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,440
You've never been to space. 
You don't know what you're 

498
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,280
getting into. 
So I always go back to when I 

499
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,600
talk to the fanboys, I say, 
explain to me Ferdinand 

500
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,680
Magellan. 
And it happened when you PhDs in

501
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,600
physics. 
Who's Ferdam and Jolin? 

502
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,480
Who's that guy? 
Well, he's not taught in schools

503
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,200
anymore because he, he 
classified probably as a white 

504
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,400
extremist racist because he was 
Catholic and pious. 

505
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,920
He was a very difficult 
personality, but he was a he, he

506
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,720
was a doer. 
So he and his men, 250 of them, 

507
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,920
5019 got on three ships in 
Sevilla, Spain. 

508
00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:44,880
And they do the Magellan, they 
do the circumnavigation of the 

509
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,200
globe. 
Magellan dies in the 

510
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,360
Philippines. 
This also, by the way, disproves

511
00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:50,560
a Flat Earth concept. 
I don't know how you can sail 

512
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,120
around a Flat Earth, but 
Magellan's circumnavigate, his 

513
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:57,280
crew circumnavigates globe, 12 
survive, 12 survive and make it 

514
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,000
back to Sidia, including 
Picofetti, who's the journal 

515
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,040
keeper who kept the record of 
the of the trip. 

516
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,200
So absolutely fascinating. 
But what's really interesting 

517
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,440
about Magellan's trip, besides 
the fact they're guessing a lot,

518
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,320
they didn't really know what 
they're doing was that they 

519
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,440
stopped everywhere. 
They stopped at the Azovers side

520
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,160
in the Canaries in West Africa. 
They take the winds and the 

521
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,080
currents over to Brazil and go 
down the coast. 

522
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,560
They stop, stop, stop, refuel. 
They need wood, they need water,

523
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,720
etcetera, etcetera. 
Patagonia, Pigafatty, right? 

524
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,400
So they met Patagones, which is 
Bigfoot, giants, etcetera. 

525
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,960
Around they go. 
And so, but they're resupplying 

526
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,000
themselves all the time. 
And, and how can you go to Mars 

527
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,200
from from planet Earth without 
an appreciation of basic 

528
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,880
logistics, basic maths? 
You know, you don't have the 

529
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,080
supply depots to get there. 
And now some Musk arguing about 

530
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,800
how many do you need between 
here and the moon. 

531
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,640
So then how did so applying 
logic back to Apollo 11, how do 

532
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,160
they do it? 
How do they do it without fuel? 

533
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,040
How do they do it without a 
landing module, with, with no 

534
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:57,240
flying? 
How do they do all this? 

535
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,800
So forget the photos. 
I don't even look at the photos.

536
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,400
And then with the Gagarin fraud,
we can talk about that if you 

537
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,120
like, because that really kick 
starts the whole thing in my 

538
00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:07,640
view. 
So my view of scientism going 

539
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,640
back to the 17th century and all
the fraud that I've uncovered, 

540
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,280
all the experiments I've 
demolished, and not just me, I 

541
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,840
mean, thousands and probably 
millions of people have done the

542
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,040
same thing. 
We don't hear us. 

543
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,840
You don't hear our voices 
because we don't have it. 

544
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,800
We, we don't have the support to
go publicly and declaim what we 

545
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,480
think we might know or at least 
get the conversation started. 

546
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,480
So if you look at a fraud like 
Einstein, the only reason you 

547
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:30,840
know about Einstein is the 
Rothschilds. 

548
00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:34,200
Rothschilds promoted that guy. 
He was demolished by 1920. 

549
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,920
His theories were utter rubbish 
by 1920. 

550
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,400
Every single public debate was 
only a few of them he ever went 

551
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,320
into. 
He got absolutely eviscerated. 

552
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,360
But the Rothschilds got the 
game. 

553
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,240
Why is that Einstein's Jewish? 
We want to set up a Hebrew 

554
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,240
university in Jerusalem. 
We need an icon. 

555
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,560
We're going to create an icon. 
We're going to create Doctor 

556
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,000
Einstein to be the face of our 
science. 

557
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,960
And they gave Einstein to share 
in Hebrew University. 

558
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:02,600
He's now patented, copyrighted. 
They make 15,000,000 U.S. 

559
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,240
dollars a year in royalties just
in his name. 

560
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,000
So This is why he's in your 
face. 

561
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,760
So none of us have that 
platform. 

562
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,240
We're not the Rothschilds. 
And the narrative is never going

563
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,760
to publish anything that's 
against the narrative. 

564
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,240
But in the history of scientism,
the reason why I got interested 

565
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,480
in the moon fraud is what it 
means. 

566
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,280
So you asked Bart's real in the 
interview, he said Bart, who 

567
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,600
cares? 
I mean, it wasn't me, Bart. 

568
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,200
So for me, it's very simple. 
It's US hegemony or hegemony 

569
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,600
depending on anyone else's word.
It's the new world order. 

570
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,800
It's the context of the Cold War
Space was viewed as part of that

571
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,840
war, right or wrong. 
And who controlled space is 

572
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,920
going to control the planet. 
That's what the US military said

573
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,720
in the 1950s. 
That's also what the Soviets 

574
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,640
said. 
We need to control space to 

575
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,320
control and win this war, the so
called Cold War. 

576
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:53,480
So it becomes almost it it 
becomes a game of absolutes. 

577
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,000
So there there could be no Co 
join winners. 

578
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,240
So candy comes into office and 
he starts talking about 

579
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,640
cooperation with with the 
Soviets in space. 

580
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,320
He doesn't see a need for 
competition. 

581
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,560
So he's of course as 
assassinated by the CIA and 

582
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,520
because he fired Dulles and 
Dulles are in the CIA. 

583
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,680
Except there's, there's a great 
book by a guy called The Devil's

584
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,680
Chess Board, but a guy called 
Talbot, which lays out the the 

585
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,080
after the demonic evil nature of
the CIA. 

586
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,440
And the CIA is the Nexus of the 
deep state, of course. 

587
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,120
So people at Kennedy said, well,
we just cooperate. 

588
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,680
The military didn't want to 
cooperate. 

589
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:31,600
So the Gagarin fraud in 1961 
comes after about a decade of 

590
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,360
miserable failures on both 
sides. 

591
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,520
So I write this on my sub stack.
I go through the Gagarin 

592
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,520
antecedents, what goes on with 
the Soviet space programme. 

593
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,720
So as James Delingpole said 
correctly, there's a tendency 

594
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,880
now when we view the West, we 
know the West is corrupt. 

595
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,920
We know our governments are are 
in some way demonic and evil. 

596
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,320
The institutions are are 
perverse and they're trying to 

597
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,800
undermine our culture and our 
heritage and our traditions. 

598
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,880
So this is all true. 
But as he said, and he's quite 

599
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:04,160
right, you don't then 
hannigerize the Soviets but say,

600
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,560
well, they're the good guys now 
the Soviets are not good guys. 

601
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,760
So I go through the murders. 
So the Soviets were launching 

602
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,480
cosmonauts, dogs and cats and 
monkeys in the space. 

603
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,480
I think they're who knows what 
they're doing. 

604
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,720
They don't provide any 
information. 

605
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,080
But the Soviets were not very 
good at sharing information. 

606
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,760
They were not transparent. 
This was a totalitarian, very 

607
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,680
evil regime. 
There's absolutely no way you 

608
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,080
can defend it. 
They're launching cosmonauts 

609
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,760
probably without even their own 
knowledge, including females 

610
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,920
caught by ham operators in 
Europe in the early 1960s and 

611
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,160
late 1950s launched them 
probably into 400 miles or so, 

612
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,960
which tells you the the extent 
of their rocket programme, how 

613
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,880
advanced it was. 
So after World War 2, the Soviet

614
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,160
Americans kind of divided up the
Nazi scientists, so to speak, 

615
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,640
and including rocketry 
engineers, including people like

616
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,320
von Braun. 
But the the the Soviets 

617
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,880
apparently got the got their 
dirty hands on actual 

618
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,720
functioning models. 
I don't think the Americans did.

619
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,920
The Americans had the people and
designs, but not the actual 

620
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,840
functioning hardware. 
The Soviets got some functioning

621
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,560
hardware, gave them a head 
start. 

622
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,680
You can see this in the 50s, 
late 50s and early 60s. 

623
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,080
They're launching people testing
the atmosphere and they're 

624
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,640
dying. 
They're launching cats and dogs.

625
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,840
But they don't, they don't tell 
you this. 

626
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,280
The Soviets tell you the 
opposite. 

627
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,800
And their propaganda. 
Oh, we did this, we did that. 

628
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,360
Oh, we sent a probe to the moon 
and brought back some oh, we, we

629
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,760
set up, you know, the dog and it
came back and everything was 

630
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,640
happy. 
All frauds, of course, and very 

631
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,080
evil. 
So before 1961, there's nothing 

632
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,920
but failure in both sides. 
NASA, NASA in 1958 was formed 

633
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,280
NASA and, and the Americans 
can't even get a payload off the

634
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,960
deck. 
They can't get an unmanned probe

635
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,760
into into the right orbit. 
The rocketry is far behind that 

636
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,960
of the Soviets. 
They're light years. 

637
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,560
Literally, if you want to look 
at in terms of The Big Bang 

638
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,200
theory, they're light years 
behind the Soviets. 

639
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,360
So there's no possibility that 
they close the gap between 61 

640
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,280
and 69. 
You just look at rocketry and 

641
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,360
technology. 
There's no possibility unless 

642
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:04,560
something magical happened. 
But in in in 1961, I think what 

643
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,800
happened was that the Cold War 
becomes very political. 

644
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,120
The Americans get involved in 
Vietnam. 

645
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,520
Kennedy is is getting involved 
with with NASA, the CIA is 

646
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,880
involved and Kennedy's told in 
early 1961 that the Americans 

647
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,720
can be the first in space. 
Now space is is completely I'll 

648
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,200
defined. 
So the official declaration of 

649
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,360
space is above 62 miles, 
something called a karma online.

650
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,120
And above that the atmosphere 
changes and becomes less dense. 

651
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,080
And you can get it, you can you 
can go past that level and you 

652
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,840
can head towards or group which 
is 200 miles. 

653
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,440
So the state of narrative says 
62 miles above is declared to be

654
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,560
space. 
I don't know why it is because 

655
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,240
the the atmosphere is 1000 miles
and and also he's supposedly so 

656
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,080
why is 62 miles? 
So it's very arbitrary. 

657
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,720
And even the 200 mile 
dimmercation into orbit is also 

658
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,960
pretty, pretty arbitrary when 
you look at the evidence of of 

659
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,440
what Daguerrein said he did, 
which he didn't do, but also the

660
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,160
ISS. 
So anyway, so the, the Soviets 

661
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,920
probably heard that the 
Americans were going to do a 

662
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,280
Capricorn 1, which is a great 
movie that everyone should 

663
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:13,640
should watch. 
Capricorn one goes through how a

664
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,520
journey to Mars could be faked. 
So it might be appropriate since

665
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,600
Musk said that last year that in
2026 he's going to Mars with, 

666
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,000
with a Starship, which has never
gotten off the off the pad. 

667
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,840
It's blown up five times and has
never had any success 

668
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,680
whatsoever. 
So that he said this year he'd 

669
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,080
go to Mars. 
So let's see what happens with, 

670
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,880
with, with Musk. 
But they could, they could 

671
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,640
easily fake it with deep fake AI
as well. 

672
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,840
So what, what the Soviets find 
out in in early 61 is I think 

673
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,560
the Americans are going to do a 
Capricorn 1. 

674
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,240
And so the Americans had three 
Top Gun studs. 

675
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,080
And these guys were Navy pilots 
and they were, they were 

676
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,600
intelligent, physically fit and 
extraordinarily experienced. 

677
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,560
So they had Shepherd, they had 
Grissom and they had John Glenn.

678
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,000
Grissom was the most senior. 
These guys all had 567-8000 

679
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:05,000
hours of jet pilot experience. 
I mean they they they, they knew

680
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,520
what they were doing and why is 
that important? 

681
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:13,639
You cannot possibly satisfy 
mission in a capsule unless you 

682
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:17,440
understand G forces, how to act 
under G forces, how to act under

683
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,560
extraordinary speed and stress. 
And that's what these guys, 

684
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,000
three guys demonstrated. 
They could fly jets at Mach 

685
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,560
speed, Mach 5, etcetera, at high
speeds. 

686
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,320
They could manoeuvre it, they 
could, they could take it, they 

687
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,320
could manipulate it, articulate 
the plane, etcetera. 

688
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,440
And they understood G force. 
They understood going from 1G in

689
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:39,040
our chair TO567-G, which is 567 
times your body weight, which is

690
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,040
like having something coming 
down on you like a tonne of 

691
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,120
bricks. 
It, it, it must be frightening. 

692
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,560
It must be terrifying. 
You need thousands of hours of 

693
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,679
training for that. 
So you can do the simulator 

694
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:50,000
training, which they did, but 
you, you need real experience. 

695
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,760
So these guys were serious. 
Now, I don't think the three of 

696
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,040
them went up and did their 
flights. 

697
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,840
I don't, I don't believe there's
no evidence for that, but at 

698
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,200
least you could imagine that 
these are the right types of 

699
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,720
pilots right now. 
Let's go to the Soviets. 

700
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,680
So, so they have this guy 
Gagarin, OK, they call him, you 

701
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,160
know, the peasant who fought the
fascists, but nobody can tell 

702
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,960
you what he did against the 
Nazis. 

703
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,320
No, no clue. 
So he, he arrives almost out of 

704
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,840
nowhere in, in late 1960 or so. 
He arrives on the scene. 

705
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,360
Nobody knows who the heck he is.
So and, and suddenly in April 

706
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,160
1961, he's the centre of 
attention. 

707
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,040
So I went through and I 
researched, I tried to find out,

708
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,160
even using Soviet information 
sources could find out almost 

709
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,000
nothing about this guy. 
OK, He was somewhat handsome. 

710
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,680
I call him a fat faced peasant 
because that's what I think he 

711
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,520
reminds me of. 
But he was a useful prop and he 

712
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,800
was put there for a reason. 
Because the Soviets knew that 

713
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,120
the Americans were going to do a
Capricorn one sometime in the 

714
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,800
spring of 1961 and say they're 
the first men in space, whatever

715
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,000
space needs. 
And it's all nonsense anyways. 

716
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,080
But that's what that. 
But in the context of the Cold 

717
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,080
War context of national 
prestige, technological 

718
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,040
excellence, we are our system is
better than their system. 

719
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,400
We're going to win this guys. 
Camaraderie, enthusiasm for the 

720
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,360
cause of people waving their 
flags. 

721
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,520
The space race was extremely 
important. 

722
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,440
So the Soviets in their failing 
economy, their failing state, 

723
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:18,520
their bankrupt in 196566. 
So before that, five years 

724
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,720
before that, you can see the 
writing on the wall. 

725
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:24,440
So they need to do something to 
generate enthusiasm and a 

726
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,120
commitment to the Soviet cause. 
So Gagarin shows up out of 

727
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,600
nowhere. 
So I can, I went through and I, 

728
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,720
I found maybe I could maybe 
claim that he had 250 hours of 

729
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:37,120
pilot experience, 250 hours in 
total. 

730
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,720
Somebody like you and me, 
Jeremy, going to the local 

731
00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:43,080
airfield somewhere in South of 
England or South Africa and 

732
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,080
saying, OK, I want to sign up to
be a pilot. 

733
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,280
Let's start the training, boys. 
You, you don't go from zero to 

734
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,280
two, you know, in 250 hours 
flying a jet plane, do you? 

735
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,040
No, no chance. 
So I don't know how many hours 

736
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,560
he had in a jet plane. 
You can't find it. 

737
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,240
I'm guessing a couple of dozen, 
maybe they maybe maybe he was so

738
00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:01,520
smart and so clever that he had 
100 hours. 

739
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,800
He danced very quickly. 
There's no evidence he was 

740
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,760
smart. 
In fact, he's quite stupid, as 

741
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,320
we'll talk about in a second. 
But I don't know where this guy 

742
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,720
comes. 
He's in the Soviet Red Air Force

743
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:17,080
and he he's chosen for Vostok 1,
the April 12th flight, which 

744
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,520
comes almost out of nowhere as 
well. 

745
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,320
So before Gagarin, there's 
failures in the Soviet 

746
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,280
programme, there's miss 
launches, there's capsules 

747
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,560
blowing up, same problems the 
Americans are having. 

748
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:33,480
There's no unmanned flights to 
speak of that are credible, say 

749
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,800
up to 200 miles. 
So a normal person would say, 

750
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,200
OK, you're putting a guy up 
there. 

751
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,440
Can you show me the telemetric 
and physical proofs that you did

752
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,000
an unmanned flight? 
You know you did a it's called a

753
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,800
drone flight, remote controlled 
capsule flight unmanned to that 

754
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,400
2200 miles. 
Can you show it to me? 

755
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,480
Of course there isn't any. 
Can you show me the telemetry 

756
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,520
and the simulations you guys did
for X number of years or months 

757
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,120
to get him ready in April 1961 
to do this feat? 

758
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,080
Can you show it to me please? 
Of course there's nothing. 

759
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,240
Can you show me how the analogue
systems work, please? 

760
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,480
The communications and what 
people here don't understand in 

761
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,040
today's world is the difference,
massive difference in analogue. 

762
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,480
It's not even computing. 
It's analogue hard wired circus 

763
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,360
versus what we take take for 
granted to be computer operating

764
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,920
systems and real time software 
and real time data analysis that

765
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,560
that it's like, it's like 
comparing the Lada to a 

766
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,240
Maserati. 
I mean, it's just there's no 

767
00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:31,760
comparison. 
So you want to know about the 

768
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,800
analogue. 
So analogue communications, how 

769
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,400
would that work in reality? 
So there's all sorts of 

770
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,720
questions you have. 
So you want to know how did you 

771
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:42,840
prepare this guy? 
Show me all the proof that he 

772
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,000
was ready to go in April 1961. 
Of course he wasn't. 

773
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,960
So that their, their Top Gun 
equivalent of Shepherd is a guy 

774
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,240
called Aleutian. 
And he had thousands of hours of

775
00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:55,360
experience. 
He was a jet fighter pilot and 

776
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,200
he was credible. 
He's smart. 

777
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,520
He was well versed in the 
technology, understood the 

778
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,080
technology, understood his 
plane. 

779
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,240
Pilots probably have a 
relationship to the plane, much 

780
00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:08,120
like, you know, a tradesman has 
a relationship with his tools, 

781
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,680
right? 
You get to know, you feel, you 

782
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,040
feel the plane, you feel the 
tools. 

783
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,720
That's why you're good with the 
tools. 

784
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,960
So they had some symbiotic 
relationship. 

785
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,360
Usually Gagarin didn't have any 
of that. 

786
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,320
There's no evidence whatsoever 
Gagarin even knew how the 

787
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,840
capsule worked. 
So illusion's a serious guy. 

788
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:28,640
So he goes up on April 7th, 5 
days before crashes in China. 

789
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,800
So where are they? 
Where are they taking off from? 

790
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,920
Kazakhstan. 
Let's pull out a map and have a 

791
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,760
look. 
Oh, Kazakhstan here. 

792
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,640
China here. 
So he did one of these. 

793
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,360
He did. 
He did the parabola up and down.

794
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,600
Something went wrong, he crash 
landed, and who knows how high 

795
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,600
he went up? 
Nobody knows. 

796
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,640
But only through his skills as a
pilot was he able to survive. 

797
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,960
An amateur like Gagarin would 
have died, would likely have 

798
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,560
died. 
The probability of his dying 

799
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,080
would have been great. 
So this is the best they have. 

800
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,720
You can't even get better. 
You can't even really go more 

801
00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:01,960
than two or 300 miles. 
You look at it a distance, 

802
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,120
threshold, distance. 
So there's something wrong. 

803
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,240
He's in the same capsule 
evolution, same technology. 

804
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,400
Five days later, Gagarin goes 
up. 

805
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,040
Leaves Kazakhstan, goes over 
Soviet Russia, Kamchatka, he 

806
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,480
goes past Alaska, down the 
Pacific, does the left hand turn

807
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,880
at the bottom of South America, 
up to the Atlantic, Africa and 

808
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:27,520
over the Middle East back to 
Saratov where he was trained as 

809
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,720
a parachutist. 
So he went back to where he 

810
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:34,360
trained so that that that's 
their story, that's their flight

811
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,200
path. 
So it's impossible. 

812
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,400
So mathematically it's 
impossible. 

813
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,040
So you can just do probability 
theory, right? 

814
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,280
You can look at three things. 
You could look at 200 because of

815
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,360
the complexity of what they're 
doing, the complexity of 

816
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,680
manoeuvring these craft going up
at, at the G force, they have 

817
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,360
to, they have to angle the 
craft. 

818
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,040
They're constantly doing 
something on the angling and 

819
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,400
they have to then spin at a 
certain height above 60 miles, 

820
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,400
they spin the craft around. 
So it's fat bottomed first with 

821
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,720
the heat shield going through 
the atmosphere out into orbit. 

822
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,120
Then he spins it around again, 
fat bottom down in the fat 

823
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:12,960
bottom, when he comes down over 
over the Soviet Union, the fat 

824
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,760
bottom has to be the heat shield
coming down. 

825
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,000
These are very, very difficult 
manoeuvres for an amateur. 

826
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,200
So on my sub stack I go through 
all the manoeuvres they have to 

827
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,640
make. 
There's no possibility in 

828
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,400
amateurs making these. 
You have to worry about so much.

829
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,120
You have retro rockets, 
parachutes, you have telemetry 

830
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,600
communications, you have warning
signals, you have stuff flashing

831
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,400
in the capsule. 
You have to react. 

832
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,040
You're going at AG force that 
would crush the average person. 

833
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,840
You're going at a phenomenal 
speed. 

834
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,200
Never before. 
Never before simulated. 

835
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,600
He's going at 17,500 miles an 
hour. 

836
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,640
When he hits a 200 mile 
altitude, there's no simulation 

837
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,600
before 61 of any human 
withstanding that speed at all 

838
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,920
anywhere. 
But yet the first time it's 

839
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,640
tried, it's OK. 
Yeah, we did it. 

840
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,880
Fat bottom first. 
I threw into orbit. 

841
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,080
No problems, guys. 17,000 miles 
an hour. 

842
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,840
An amateur. 
So if you look at probability 

843
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,240
theory, you look at who the guy 
was, you look at the failures. 

844
00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:07,160
So it's called Bayesian theory. 
So I take the events before the 

845
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,520
event I'm actually assessing for
probability. 

846
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,760
So I say, OK, something happened
that's related to my probability

847
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,760
theory assessment before. 
So that's called Bayesian 

848
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,760
theory. 
I'm going to add those events. 

849
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,640
So the Soviets before Gagarin 
had a 90% failure rate, 90 

850
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,240
percent failure. 
So I look at the guy, I look at 

851
00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:28,320
the failure rate, and then the 
Canary in the coal mine. 

852
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:34,840
Sorry, the Canary in the coal 
mine is the landing. 

853
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,120
Do you think it's possible 
they're going to land right next

854
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,560
to where you parachuted trained?
Is that Even so that's the 

855
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,120
Canary, right? 
You can start with that. 

856
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:46,640
So three factors that put into 
your probability analysis. 

857
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,320
What's the probability of his 
experience being enough? 

858
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,880
What's the probability impact of
the 90% failure rate? 

859
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,640
What's the probability that he 
would land near his landing zone

860
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,160
in Ceratov at, at 
circumnavigating the Earth 

861
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,920
24,900 miles at 17,500 miles an 
hour, 220 miles in altitude with

862
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,480
the most complicated possible 
manoeuvring, which I listed 

863
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,600
myself Stack I, I try to 
describe it in simple terms. 

864
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,840
But if you just go through the 
landing, it's quite, it's, it's 

865
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,440
amazing that they could land at 
anything. 

866
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,560
So the probability theory when 
you go through it is one in 10 

867
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,000
million. 
So you can play the numbers all 

868
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,520
day long. 
This is 3 factors probability 

869
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:21,040
theories. 
You don't. 

870
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,960
You don't need a PhD. 
You don't need to open physics 

871
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,560
or rocketry or any of that 
stuff. 

872
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,200
You pull out your calculator, 
you can go through the entire 

873
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,080
flight. 
Now, I've not included the 

874
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,200
Rockets, the fuel, the 
technology, the analogue 

875
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,080
communications, the all the 
other factors involved in 

876
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,680
hardware and software in that 
analysis. 

877
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,920
If you were to add up all the 
components and all the 

878
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,000
milestones on a supposed 
circumnavigation, everything has

879
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,880
to be perfect. 
The only way you go to Mars from

880
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,640
Earth or to the Moon from Earth 
or do the Gagarin is if every 

881
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:53,400
single part of milestone 
component is 99.99% resilience. 

882
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,600
And that is not happening 
because I can go, yeah, go 

883
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:57,680
ahead. 
But. 

884
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,600
Ferdinand We all know it was 
real because Nixon phone called 

885
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,600
them on the moon. 
Oh yeah, yeah, It was the magic 

886
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:06,960
analogue. 
So analogue communication. 

887
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,800
That's a that's a beautiful 1, 
So magic green phone. 

888
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,840
And I don't know if it's 
photoshopped or not, but I've 

889
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,840
seen Nixon talking on the phone 
like this very casually with no 

890
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,400
delays and latency. 
And on the background there's a 

891
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,160
picture of the moon. 
Now I don't know if that's been 

892
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,400
photoshopped in or if some if 
some conspiracy theorist has 

893
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,800
added that apparently. 
Apparently that photograph came 

894
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:31,640
from prior missions. 
OK, so maybe it's after, but the

895
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,680
Apollo 11 landing there, there's
communications there, right? 

896
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,000
So, so maybe who knows what that
what that pictures about, But 

897
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,080
the analogue communications is 
impossible because the analogue 

898
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,880
signal will never carry that 
far. 

899
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,920
So if you look at Gagarin, then 
take his flight, so the Nassau 

900
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,200
fanboys and the Gagarin fanboys 
will say he was trapped. 

901
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,400
He was trapped. 
He was trapped. 

902
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,880
You're not tracking anything. 
Let's go back to what radar is. 

903
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,760
So the people, you know what 
radar is. 

904
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,560
So in this country in 1961 in 
the UK as an example, in the UK 

905
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,280
there's 50 or 60 radar stations.
Why so many? 

906
00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:07,760
Well, they're limited 
terrestrially to 90. 

907
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,520
Maybe the 1969 World War 2 was 
90 miles terrestrial limit. 

908
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,040
By 1961, depending on the 
upgrades and so on, you might 

909
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,480
get out to 150. 
So what does it mean? 

910
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,520
I have a spoke but no hub. 
I'm a radar station on the East 

911
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,320
Coast of England. 
I'm looking towards Holland. 

912
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,000
OK, I'm all I'm doing is sending
out a radio beam at a frequency 

913
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,560
in the sky. 
I'm just sending it out and it 

914
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,000
hits. 
Something comes back, It's very 

915
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,600
weak and this is the red dot. 
So it hits my antenna. 

916
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,360
I do some translation and the 
processing logic, it pops up on 

917
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:39,400
my screen. 
It's a red dot. 

918
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,320
I have no idea what it is. 
It could be a Soviet bomber, It 

919
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,360
could be a miniature badger 
flying a suit camp. 

920
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,640
They don't know what it is, so 
there's no real time 

921
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,480
communications here. 
And so I keep setting up the 

922
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,760
beam and then I track it. 
So I have to phone somebody. 

923
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,080
I tell Central Command I got 
something on my radar. 

924
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,800
I have no idea what it is. 
We need to send up some planes, 

925
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,840
guys, and find out. 
That's the reality of 1961. 

926
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,800
There's a limit trust related to
radar. 

927
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,960
There's a limit 12 to 15 miles 
in altitude. 

928
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,280
The Soviet bombers flew at 15 
miles or so in altitude trying 

929
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,080
to avoid the radar. 
So look at an analogue signal. 

930
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,400
It's casting a radio beam from 
200 miles in the atmosphere. 

931
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,680
You have to go through the the 
atmosphere, the medium. 

932
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,680
There's going to be distortions,
refractions. 

933
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,920
By the time it gets down to 100 
miles to the Earth, there's 

934
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,800
nothing left. 
You would not be able to 

935
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,440
recognise that signal from radio
static in the background. 

936
00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:29,760
That's just a simple analogue 
fact. 

937
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,680
So you're not doing anything 
with analogue. 

938
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,480
And if you look at Guerin's 
flight path, Kazakhstan, you 

939
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,480
know, doing the Pacific, the 
left turn and all that stuff 

940
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,800
over the Atlantic, which would 
never happened, that would take 

941
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,960
skills that this guy did not 
possess. 

942
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,560
There's no radar stations there.
There's no way to track it. 

943
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:48,800
There's no way to track what he 
where he went. 

944
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,400
So when the fanboys say tracking
what did, what are they talking 

945
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,040
about? 
They're talking about the 10 

946
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,560
minutes of communication in the 
middle of the flight that's 

947
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,600
prerecorded and broadcast from 
the terrestrial tower near 

948
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,600
Moscow. 
And that's picked up by whoever 

949
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,680
the US military, perhaps NATO, 
perhaps whatever. 

950
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,280
Somebody picks it up and they 
they don't know what it is. 

951
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,640
They're just assuming it's a 
valid that's coming from a 

952
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,280
capsule 200 miles up with an 
analogue signal which will never

953
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,760
reach down to Earth. 
And that they accepted at face 

954
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,360
value. 
Now, they could do that for many

955
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,640
reasons, but there's no proof on
A that there's A. 

956
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,920
There's no proof whatsoever that
that signal can be independently

957
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,120
verified. 
There never was. 

958
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,560
And there's just no logical 
proof that he was tracked 

959
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:33,800
anywhere, because there's no 
way. 

960
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,400
There's no global tracking 
system. 

961
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:40,120
There's no Eye of Sauron in 
1961, fixated on Gagarin's 

962
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,560
capsule and doing one of the, 
you know, wherever he went, the 

963
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,520
Eye of Sauron was falling. 
It doesn't exist. 

964
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,680
There's no way the central 
location near Moscow can 

965
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,760
possibly receive analogue beams 
or communications from something

966
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,920
200 miles in the atmosphere. 
In 1961, the analogue circuits 

967
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,160
were not powerful enough. 
The analogue signals aren't 

968
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,800
powerful enough. 
The the chance of that 

969
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:05,680
happening, I did a probability 
is, is I think it was 5, 110 

970
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,200
thousand or something at 1%. 
I mean it, it, it's irrelevant. 

971
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,520
And that's also true of the 
communications. 

972
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,760
There's no such thing as 
analogue communications to the 

973
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,840
moon or analogue communications 
from a terrestrial site to 

974
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,320
something like a Gagarin 
capsule. 

975
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,160
It doesn't work with analogue. 
You need digital. 

976
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,480
So now, yes, I would believe if 
they're doing it now. 

977
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,960
But yeah, digital, of course, we
have real time operating 

978
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,200
systems, we have real time 
software. 

979
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,760
We do have rudimentary global 
tracking systems. 

980
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,760
I mean, there's gaps in them, 
but we do have them. 

981
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:39,280
We do have ballistic and optical
radar, which can go out 20,000 

982
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,280
miles into space. 
So yeah, I can buy it, guys, but

983
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:47,440
not 196115 miles was the limit. 
And they're using analogue who 

984
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,400
believes this. 
So it was. 9 Hold on, hold on. 

985
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,560
But it was 1969 though, wasn't 
it? 

986
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,600
Yeah, 60. 9's the same thing. 
So there there's there's some 

987
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,440
improvements in radar and 
analogue communication. 

988
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:02,280
But in 61, what I'm saying is 
Nassau claims that in 61 they 

989
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,000
tracked Garen, but they didn't 
because it's a 10 minute 

990
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,800
broadcast from a terrestrial 
tower in in Moscow 1969. 

991
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,160
There's no possibility that the 
green analogue phone in 

992
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,840
Washington can't possibly 
process sound communications or 

993
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,160
signals to the moon. 
It's impositors. 

994
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,600
There's actually no way of doing
it. 

995
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,920
You have to have an analogue to 
wireless trans translation and 

996
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,360
communication, which didn't 
exist. 

997
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:28,440
So the NASA and the fanboys come
back with the S transponder, the

998
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,280
magic device that made it all 
possible. 

999
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,160
OK, I'll show it to me. 
I like to use it. 

1000
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,040
Oh, no, no, no, no. 
It's at the Smithsonian. 

1001
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:36,720
OK, You go there and have a look
at it. 

1002
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:39,120
It's on display. 
So you want to use it yourself 

1003
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,760
to prove it. 
I would love to do that. 

1004
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,840
Who wouldn't? 
But they won't let you have it 

1005
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,960
because it didn't exist. 
It was in their minds, 

1006
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,800
imagination. 
You cannot have analogue 

1007
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,160
communications with a wireless 
transmitter on the moon. 

1008
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,080
There's no proof that it 
happened. 

1009
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,400
You'd have to again, simulate 
that on this planet. 

1010
00:49:55,840 --> 00:50:01,120
Where's the proof that anyone 
could call a remote landing, say

1011
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,280
in the desert somewhere from a 
wireless transmitter or from an 

1012
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,600
analogue phone to a wireless 
transmitter and prove that it 

1013
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:07,560
works? 
That's what they would have 

1014
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,040
done. 
You would have asked for the 

1015
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,360
test cases, given the test 
cases. 

1016
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:11,480
Guys, show it to me on this 
planet. 

1017
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,400
How'd you do it? 
Fascinating. 

1018
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,400
Oh, the S device. 
That's fascinating stuff. 

1019
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,520
Well done. 
You could at least prove it and 

1020
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,400
convince yourself what happened.
There's no proof of it. 

1021
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,440
And as Bart said, there's no 
latency. 

1022
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,080
It's almost as if they're 
talking, you know, from room to 

1023
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,200
room. 
And, and, and again, it's a 

1024
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,360
simulation because you can tell 
by the voices. 

1025
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,760
You can tell by the way they act
that they're just acting. 

1026
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,440
It's a simulation. 
So there's no, there's no 

1027
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,600
reality to it. 
And I think the, the, the body, 

1028
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,440
he talked with Bart about this, 
the body language after the, 

1029
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,000
after the 69 Apollo flight. 
You know, Armstrong is totally 

1030
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,840
confused. 
He's looking at teleprompter and

1031
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:48,080
I don't know, he's, he's not the
maybe the brightest guy in the 

1032
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,080
world. 
He can't get his answer 

1033
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,560
straight. 
So he's asked a very simple 

1034
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,240
question. 
And did you see stars? 

1035
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,920
So if I went to the moon, I'd be
I, I'd be talking for an hour 

1036
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,160
about it. 
I saw exactly this and this and 

1037
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,240
this time we did that. 
We did that telemetry and that 

1038
00:51:01,240 --> 00:51:04,600
radiation reading and over here 
I saw the even you always shut 

1039
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:05,400
me out. 
This guy says no. 

1040
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,880
He says, I don't recall. 
I know on the moon I was taking 

1041
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,880
pictures of the solar corona. 
Now NASA's own data says that if

1042
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,160
you took the the emulsion film 
analogue again, back to 

1043
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,840
analogue. 
And the problem with analogue in

1044
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,440
terms of communications, it's 
based on based on a vacuum, a 

1045
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,680
sealed vacuum. 
You can't track real time 

1046
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,240
signals with a vacuum. 
It doesn't work. 

1047
00:51:25,240 --> 00:51:27,760
That's what we need digital. 
So with an analogue camera, 

1048
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:31,040
emulsion based film, carbon 
based film, NASA says if you 

1049
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,400
point that at the sun and take a
picture, it destroys the camera.

1050
00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:37,360
That's what they said. 
So here we have Armstrong St 

1051
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,560
Neil, the strong arm, saying 
that he pointed that the son was

1052
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,040
taking pictures. 
Well, there's no pictures of the

1053
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:43,960
solar corona. 
None are available. 

1054
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:45,600
So yeah, that's what he said he 
was doing. 

1055
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,480
But also apparently they used 
some sort of hassle blood camera

1056
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,840
or whatever, but how the hell 
did they actually hold the 

1057
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,880
camera and take photos with 
those gloves? 

1058
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,960
No, it's, it's a chest. 
It's not on the chest. 

1059
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,120
So this is the other fraud. 
This is why. 

1060
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,600
And it drives the fanboys crazy.
So there's that idiot photo of, 

1061
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,520
of, of Oliver doing this, but it
so there's the lunar module, US 

1062
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,280
flag and Aldrin doing one of 
these, saluting it. 

1063
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,480
Very famous photo, the iconic 
Apollo 11 photo taken by 

1064
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,120
Armstrong. 
The camera's on his chest. 

1065
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,840
OK, if you look at the photo, 
the camera is not situated on 

1066
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,040
his chest and it's perfectly 
framed. 

1067
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,920
Decibel's taken in a studio. 
Now you can imagine you're on 

1068
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,440
the moon, you got the fat 
gloves, you got the motion 

1069
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:25,960
camera. 
You're terrified, right? 

1070
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,200
You've been travelling 24,000 
miles an hour for at least 1012 

1071
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,040
hours. 
Okay, you've you've done the 

1072
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,240
impossible. 
You somehow got yourself the 

1073
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:37,160
lunar module deported and 
decamped from the the main 

1074
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:38,800
capsule. 
You've done the impossible. 

1075
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,480
You've landed somehow with this 
this homeless shelter and you're

1076
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,760
taking a picture. 
I would have believed it more if

1077
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,320
the picture was awry and 
unsteady like you and I take 

1078
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,160
like, I'd be like, you know, 
it's not going to be a perfectly

1079
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,280
well framed picture with 
everything nicely symmetrical 

1080
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:54,680
and arranged. 
It's impossible. 

1081
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,520
And if you look at the reverse 
photo they have of that same 

1082
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:02,920
shot again, going back to lights
and shadows and the waving flag,

1083
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,040
it's different. 
So they, they've taken two shots

1084
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,880
of Aldrin doing this with the 
waving flag from two different 

1085
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,000
angles. 
They're, they're mirror opposite

1086
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,680
to each other. 
But if you look at the shadows 

1087
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,640
and lighting and the 
arrangement, they're not mirror 

1088
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,000
opposites. 
They're different. 

1089
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,360
So they've taken them at 
different times and it doesn't 

1090
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,760
make any sense when you look at 
what what they say they did. 

1091
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,960
They took a couple of snaps and 
and these snaps were were done 

1092
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,480
within a certain period of time.
That's not what you see. 

1093
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,520
You see framed photos that are 
very carefully stage managed and

1094
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,000
they made a mistake doing that. 
The waving flag is obviously 

1095
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,360
from the the simulator, which is
what it was with a fan. 

1096
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,680
The simulators would have had 
fans to cool off the engines or 

1097
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,400
it's from a fan in the in the 
studio. 

1098
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:50,360
And in this case, Cannon Air 
Force Base. 

1099
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,960
So what Bart mentioned to you is
is correct. 

1100
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,760
There's lots of evidence that in
June of 68, they shot the Cannon

1101
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,960
Air Force Base over a period of 
a week or two. 

1102
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,960
They had Lyndon B Johnson and 
other dignitaries there visiting

1103
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,600
looking at the film production. 
And there's lots of evidence he 

1104
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:08,960
did that. 
But what what people don't say, 

1105
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,880
well, they don't marry, marry. 
That too is the Langley, 

1106
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,360
Virginia simulation data. 
So Bart told you that the 

1107
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:16,760
control room would just get 
data. 

1108
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,240
We know what it was. 
It's very easy to do in IT. 

1109
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,120
We do it all the time, do it 
every day, every week. 

1110
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,480
We hook 2 networks together. 
I control the data source, I 

1111
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,400
control the data. 
I send it over the network 

1112
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:27,960
connection I made. 
I control. 

1113
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,240
You're the front end, you're the
control room. 

1114
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,000
I'll send you the data. 
You don't know what I'm sending 

1115
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,320
you. 
You don't have a clue. 

1116
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:39,080
And you can see that in the 
simulations that NASA and 

1117
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:44,560
European Space Agency have made 
for the ISS, but also for 

1118
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,360
training in space. 
These simulations are are 

1119
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,520
incredible. 
I mean, you don't know what 

1120
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,000
you're looking at. 
You could be a part of the 

1121
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,480
simulation and actually think 
you're going to the ISS, for 

1122
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:54,640
instance, or you're going to the
moon. 

1123
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,280
They're that good. 
So if I feed you data, whether 

1124
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,600
it's a tracking signal or 
whether it's some telemetric 

1125
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:07,400
information on flight progress, 
everything from heart rates to 

1126
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,200
to, you know, what the speed, 
whatever it is we're doing, the 

1127
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,360
telemetry, you don't know what 
you're looking at. 

1128
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,400
And then you marry that to the 
film. 

1129
00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:16,240
It does. 
It's not that difficult to see 

1130
00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:18,000
how they did it. 
And it wouldn't take that much 

1131
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:19,480
time and money to be honest with
you. 

1132
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,960
You had 250 billion budget, 250 
billion. 

1133
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,320
So you assume that because it's 
the CIA in NASA, half of its 

1134
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,440
money laundered. 
So they have 100 billion or so 

1135
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:29,800
left. 
You can do a lot with 100 

1136
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,040
billion. 
Since 1961, they've had 1.5 

1137
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,320
trillion pumped into the space 
programmes in the United States.

1138
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,360
He had in the Russian, Chinese, 
Canadian, European, Japanese, 

1139
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,160
Indian, whatever. 
You're probably looking at in 

1140
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,440
the Soviets as well. 
You're probably looking at a 

1141
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,080
total investment since 1960. 
I don't know, 4 trillion U.S. 

1142
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,080
dollars, What can you do with 4 
trillion? 

1143
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,040
So the simulations they have are
phenomenal and the data points 

1144
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,640
are being fed to you so that the
tracking fanboys, they, they 

1145
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,840
don't understand radar, they 
don't understand analogue 

1146
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,560
communications, which means the 
tracking was impossible in 69 

1147
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,640
and in 61. 
They don't understand that NASA 

1148
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,240
admitted in 69 that they cloaked
the signals because of the 

1149
00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:08,080
Soviets. 
Might, might be up to something.

1150
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,240
The Soviets have never claimed 
to track Apollo. 

1151
00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:11,800
That's simply a lie. 
They've never done that. 

1152
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,280
They've always denied tracking 
Apollo. 

1153
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,800
They they were paid billions of 
dollars. 

1154
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,240
That's the other thing that 
people don't understand. 

1155
00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:21,320
The Cold War race was actually 
in some ways of cooperation. 

1156
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,880
The Soviets were given billions 
by the Americans in the 1960s to

1157
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,320
say solvent because right in 65 
they're, they're bankrupt. 

1158
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,440
And so they got ransom money 
from France and West Germany 

1159
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,960
paid by the US. the US gave them
some money probably to be quiet 

1160
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,400
about the Apollo programme. 
And the Soviets were able to 

1161
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,080
stagger on and survive for a 
little bit longer. 

1162
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:41,680
It's good for business because 
Nassau now is fully funded and 

1163
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,520
Nassau, you know, 1.5 trillion 
since the 1960s. 

1164
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,160
It's a lot of money and you can 
imagine all the vested 

1165
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,800
interests, the military complex,
the contractors, the senators, 

1166
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,360
the politicians, the fake news 
media, the fake science 

1167
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:54,880
journals, they're all a part of 
it. 

1168
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,960
They're all getting paid off, 
Elon. 

1169
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,680
Oh, SpaceX. 
So I've not spent that much time

1170
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,120
looking at SpaceX. 
I did do some posts on my sub 

1171
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,720
stack. 
SpaceX is a real company. 

1172
00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:08,960
There's a lot of problems with 
what they're showing us and 

1173
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,120
telling us. 
Again, you're into video and 

1174
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,040
image fraud. 
A lot of the imagery in space, 

1175
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,200
from space. 
He sent a car, do you remember 

1176
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,000
that? 
Sorry, he sent a. 

1177
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,640
Car to space, do you remember 
that? 

1178
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,360
Oh yeah, so the Tesla, that's a 
classic. 

1179
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,440
So fanboys also get wound up 
about that, don't they? 

1180
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,760
So they said this court 
convertible and, and there's, I 

1181
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,600
don't know, it's, it's just 
bizarre. 

1182
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,360
But apparently they have cameras
attached to the chassis in the 

1183
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:41,160
frame from different angles and 
they proved that there is space 

1184
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:42,720
and the difference in the 
background. 

1185
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:47,280
The there, there's one shot that
I put in my sub stack where it 

1186
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,720
must be the world's longest 
selfie. 

1187
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,920
I mean, it's, it's a camera, I 
don't know, 50 feet or something

1188
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,000
looking back on the car. 
But the earth in the background,

1189
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,880
there's all sorts of problems 
with the earth in the background

1190
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,800
looks different than other shots
you see from SpaceX or from the 

1191
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,600
ISS. 
And this is the problem. 

1192
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,040
And again, the fanboys go crazy 
right with with the but the 

1193
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,840
images don't add up. 
If you go back to John Glenn in 

1194
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:14,720
62, his his iconic shot of of 
the Earth from supposedly 187 

1195
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,280
miles in L2, I don't think Glen 
went there. 

1196
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,560
I think it was a Capricorn one. 
It looks totally different than 

1197
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,240
what you see today. 
The SpaceX stuff, sometimes when

1198
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:26,920
they land or when they dock 
rather the ISS, they open up the

1199
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,520
portals from the portholes and 
light streams in. 

1200
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,520
Well, I'm told that space is 
dark. 

1201
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,640
Then the fanboys have a whole 
bunch of stuff where they say, 

1202
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,600
well, you know that we we can 
explain it this way. 

1203
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:41,080
But if space is mockly diffuse 
and you're telling me that the 

1204
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,440
Starlight is blocked, the 
Starlight is blocked out by the 

1205
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,520
solar radiation which is 
permeating everything and and 

1206
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,640
therefore at some distance it 
gives blackness. 

1207
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,680
I should see the blackness 
anyways, regardless of whether I

1208
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:53,960
have a camera or not. 
But you don't. 

1209
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,240
You see a lot of light at times,
but other times you see 

1210
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,240
darkness. 
So the space walks, it's all 

1211
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,480
dark. 
But if I was to pull open the 

1212
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,000
porthole of the SpaceX and do a 
spacewalk, what would I see? 

1213
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:06,560
Would I see light or would I see
darkness? 

1214
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,200
So when you talked about this, 
they get very upset, very angry.

1215
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,480
So there's, there's 
discontinuities in the 

1216
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:12,080
narrative. 
It does. 

1217
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,440
I don't know what they're up to,
but the image is there's, 

1218
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,160
there's a, a video of a SpaceX 
launch where there's a, a mouse 

1219
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,360
running around in the fuselage 
and that same, different 

1220
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,200
launches. 
You see, you have two cameras 

1221
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,200
mounted on, on fuselage taking 
pictures of the earth, but the 

1222
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,480
earth looks different and very 
strange. 

1223
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,000
And at some point in time they 
become switched. 

1224
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:32,800
So the image is kind of 
reversed. 

1225
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,240
You don't know what's going on. 
Did did something happen with, 

1226
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,840
with, with the, with the rocket?
Did the rocket kind of flip 

1227
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,120
around or it's it's very 
strange. 

1228
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,000
So they're doing something 
SpaceX, but there's no chance of

1229
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,200
going to Mars. 
As Muscat said, there's no 

1230
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:46,240
chance of even going to the 
moon. 

1231
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,280
So I don't know about the 
Artemis programme. 

1232
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:49,520
Go ahead. 
So. 

1233
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,320
Yeah. 
So we we kind of coming in for a

1234
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,600
landing, if you'll excuse the 
pun, but what do you think 

1235
00:59:55,960 --> 01:00:00,120
happened on the day in 1969? 
I mean, there was a rocket that 

1236
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:05,760
went up. 
I think so Barton on his his 

1237
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:06,760
website, he's mentioned this as 
well. 

1238
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:08,680
He's got the window, the earth 
and window trick. 

1239
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,840
So and they do it today. 
So you see with Blue Origins 

1240
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,600
flights, which are the last Blue
Origin flight in April is 

1241
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:18,640
fraudulent as well last year. 
So yes, the rocket goes up, but 

1242
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,120
there's AI don't know how long 
the countdown was exactly was 

1243
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,520
over 3 hours. 
So I know what Alan Shepard in 

1244
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:28,680
61 had three hours and 50 
minutes between supposedly going

1245
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,640
into the capsule and, and, you 
know, on the rocket and then 

1246
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,360
taking off. 
It's I, I don't know why it's 

1247
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:34,760
such a long countdown. 
I have no idea. 

1248
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,640
But OK, there's the fact the 
fanboys will be able to discuss 

1249
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,080
in detail, but there's a three 
hour or so window. 

1250
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,080
So yeah, the, the rocket goes 
up, the capsule's there. 

1251
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,760
You might have seen them go in 
plus Capricorn 1. 

1252
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,200
The movie says they also might 
have gone back out. 

1253
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,400
And so how difficult would it be
to fake that? 

1254
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,480
So if you look at where Shepherd
land, teen land in the Bahamas, 

1255
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,920
300 miles away, he could be 
there in 45 minutes. 

1256
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,000
The sea, sea, sea, military sea 
plant. 

1257
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,240
So what happened to the boys in 
the Apollo? 

1258
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,240
Well, they have all sorts of 
time because they're not coming 

1259
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,240
back for, you know, a couple of 
days, right, the Apollo 11. 

1260
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,840
So lots of time to get them over
to the Pacific. 

1261
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,160
They're over to Hawaii and you 
could drop them from another 

1262
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:17,240
military sea plant, which. 
So more specifically, could that

1263
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,040
rocket then simply have just 
gone into orbit and that's that 

1264
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:24,760
or do you think that actually? 
You've crashed land in the 

1265
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,240
ocean. 
So if all 13 they found, they 

1266
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,120
found the the Soviets found 
debris in the Bay of Biscay. 

1267
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:31,680
So you can definitely find the 
rocket. 

1268
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,760
You can crash it somewhere. 
You can you can send it into 

1269
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,720
space, whatever. 
And then the the key is Langley.

1270
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,600
So the key is Langley married to
the film that can't Air Force. 

1271
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,680
The Langley simulates 
everything. 

1272
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:45,640
I I mean everything so that the 
he could do everything in 

1273
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,560
Langley. 
So you don't they they just 

1274
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,760
prerecorded everything so 
before. 

1275
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,040
So. 
So what about the Artemis that's

1276
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,800
about to launch? 
I haven't even looked at the the

1277
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,440
Artemis, the the technology is 
different. 

1278
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,840
The technology is is far 
different than the 1960s. 

1279
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,320
I've not even looked at it. 
Yeah. 

1280
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,240
Well, well, well, the the claim 
is that they're going to go to 

1281
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:07,920
the moon, go around the moon and
come back. 

1282
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:10,280
That's a claim. 
Who knows? 

1283
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,000
I can't have a deep fake AI have
no idea. 

1284
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,920
So the the the question I would 
ask is show me where you've 

1285
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:17,880
tested beyond 400 miles in 
altitude. 

1286
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:21,960
Show me where So Polaris in 2024
supposedly went 870 miles. 

1287
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,800
It's fraud. 
SpaceX that's it's a complete 

1288
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,560
fraud to joke that one. 
So they they can't prove they've

1289
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,520
got about 400. 
So you want the telemetry. 

1290
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,960
So if you're going to the moon 
250,000 miles, you're doing the 

1291
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,400
Magellan. 
Where did you go incrementally? 

1292
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,520
That's what they have to prove. 
They have to prove they went 

1293
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,200
incrementally. 
Did all the testing, all the 

1294
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,640
radiation through the Van Allen 
radiation belts, which nobody 

1295
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,280
even knows really because we've 
never been through there. 30,000

1296
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,200
miles in, in width, 60,000 miles
in width. 

1297
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,080
Radiation levels are 10,000 
times what they are on this 

1298
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:50,920
planet. 
Nobody knows you've never been 

1299
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:52,320
there. 
So they they're trying to do 

1300
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,960
telemetry on that. 
So you want to have all this 

1301
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,200
information before you can claim
you went to, did a fly by in the

1302
01:02:58,200 --> 01:02:59,880
mood. 
I want to know all the steps 

1303
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:02,840
that prepared you for that 
journey and and before you went 

1304
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,040
into production for you went 
live. 

1305
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,720
Show me your testing. 
Show me your test environments. 

1306
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,240
That's what they have to prove 
and they never do it. 

1307
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:11,920
If you ask for this information,
you don't have any. 

1308
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,760
They say it's top secret. 
So Trump very conveniently 

1309
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,720
classified NASA as a spy agency 
last year. 

1310
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,280
So if you're to ask NASA for 
this information, they'll say, 

1311
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,480
well, we're a spy agency here. 
It's a national security Chung, 

1312
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,000
they can't share it with you. 
Isn't that convenient? 

1313
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,360
See, we don't know. 
So. 

1314
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,320
Basically no evidence. 
You have. 

1315
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:33,800
To just trust what they tell 
you. 

1316
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,120
That's that. 
And this, this goes back to 

1317
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,720
philosophy and scientism. 
People who believe in the moon 

1318
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,040
landings trust government. 
People who put a diaper on their

1319
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,280
face and stabbed their arms, 
shoulders of poisons from a 

1320
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,360
criminal industry trusted the 
science trust government. 

1321
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:50,320
They're just indoctrinated. 
So people who look at the 

1322
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:54,640
Artemis programme and whatever 
imagery they produce, it'll take

1323
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,960
a long time to digest it, right?
It's going to take a long time 

1324
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,840
to look at it and analyse it. 
Could take it will take years. 

1325
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,880
So they'll immediately trust it.
They'll be on the fake news, 

1326
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:07,680
they'll be broadcast everywhere.
The back to the moon will be the

1327
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,040
headlines and all that stuff. 
We'll soon be walking. 

1328
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:14,760
And so Musk in 2017 promised 
that by 2018 there'd be a moon 

1329
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,120
bus, but the Walmart, the US 
class wearing the Walmart jeans 

1330
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,200
would be wandering around the 
moon doing some tourism. 

1331
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:21,880
He said that would happen in 
2018. 

1332
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,360
You're going to hear the same 
thing again, moon tourism. 

1333
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,320
You'd be playing golf and 
driving Jeeps around like they 

1334
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:31,080
did during the Apollo programme 
and maybe the Trump Tower and 

1335
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,360
Tranquilly Bay, you know, having
a having weekend out with your, 

1336
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,480
with your better half. 
This is what they're going to 

1337
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,200
promote now. 
But we don't know what we're 

1338
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:39,720
looking at here. 
We have no clue. 

1339
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,680
Ferdinand, how can my audience 
follow your work? 

1340
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,600
So I'm on top stack. 
So I have that it's it's 

1341
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:57,160
unstabinated, so UNSTABBINATED 
unstabinated dot subsac.com. 

1342
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,560
It tells you that I didn't take 
the corona stabs unstabenated. 

1343
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:02,840
I'm still alive. 
I was promised a winter of 

1344
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,280
death. 
Apparently didn't you know it 

1345
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:05,800
didn't happen still waiting for 
it. 

1346
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,000
By the way, I was told not to go
out and exercise and ran almost 

1347
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,040
every day. 
So you know still healthy, still

1348
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,720
doing well. 
Unstabenated is really almost a 

1349
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,120
philosophical point with me, and
that tells me everything I need 

1350
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,440
to know about a person really 
does. 

1351
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,040
If you if you believe in the 
Chronoscam demic, then you and I

1352
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,520
are probably not going to be 
pressed because you have a 

1353
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,480
different world view than I do. 
And it's just not. 

1354
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:30,440
The twain will never meet. 
Doctor Ferdinand Santos, thank 

1355
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:31,680
you for joining me in the 
trenches. 

1356
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:33,720
Thanks, Jeremy. 
I really appreciate it and it 

1357
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:34,640
was fun. 
Thank you very much.