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Good afternoon. 
It's just gone 1:00 on Friday 

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the 1st of August 2025. 
Welcome to UK column News. 

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I'm your host, Charles Mallett. 
I'm joined in the studio today 

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by Patrick Henningson. 
Welcome to the program, Patrick.

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Great to be with you, Charles. 
And on the live link, we have 

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Mark Anderson from the United 
States and Mike Robinson from 

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Northern Ireland. 
Now, there'll be a lot to get 

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through today, as always. 
And we're going to be looking at

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the possible nuclear 
capabilities of Iran as 

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described over in Chicago. 
We're going to be looking at the

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latest tariff theatrics at the 
Uks, plans for food strategy and

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food security, the BBC and 
indeed particularly how they're 

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dealing with the Paloma 
Shamarani inquest, as well as 

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mass media consolidation in the 
United States concerning 

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Paramount. 
But you'll remember from 

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Wednesday's programme that I was
reporting fire Patrick, who'd 

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sent in some footage of an event
he attended in London on Monday 

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to do with the summit flotilla. 
And summit, of course, we should

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point out, meaning the Arabic 
word for perseverance. 

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Now, I'm pleased to say that 
Patrick has a lot more on this 

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for today's programme. 
So that's where we're going to 

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where we're going to begin 
today, Patrick. 

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Thanks, Charles. 
Yeah, it's just really a rally 

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for well, the the Handela had 
just been. 

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This was the Gaza flotilla just 
been seized by the Israel, 

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Israelis. 
We'll bring that up on screens. 

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People see the boat again. 
But the part of the Gaza Freedom

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Flotilla, they had the Madeline,
which was also apprehended a few

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months ago, the crew was 
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Israelis. 
They were all released. 

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The, the whole crew of the 
Handela I think is safe now as 

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far as I'm concerned. 
There might be one or two other 

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exceptions to that, but we'll, 
we'll get clarification on that.

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But they had a press conference 
in London and it was really kind

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of A to to bring the press in to
give them more information about

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what's coming. 
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the testimonies of one of the 
members of the the hand dollar 

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was there. 
Tiago had a chance to speak to 

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him as well. 
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there Human Rights Watch and 
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So this was very revealing. 
So we have a video report which 

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will show you from this event. 
And we'll have some of the 

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statements in there and we'll 
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what what the content of that is
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But let's go ahead and watch 
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The governments must end all 
complicity, must stop arms and 

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in fact must impose an arms 
embargo, A comprehensive arms 

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embargo on Israel immediately. 
The situation that we are seeing

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unfolding in Gaza is, is the 
extermination of the Palestinian

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people. 
What makes this specific and 

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unique is the fact that this is 
being carried out by an ally of 

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Western governments. 
It's being carried out by a 

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state that calls the United 
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Australia, a friend. 
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things that clearly 
distinguishes this situation 

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from others. 
But obviously the fact that it 

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is extermination of a people 
raises it to the level of one of

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the greatest atrocities that can
be committed by a state and by 

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its officials. 
We were in the meddling on a 

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mission with. 12 people with 
food with medicine with. 

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Crutches with baby formula with 
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filters to try to do the obvious
things when we see a genocide 

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that 8 billion people that see. 
Children. 

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Being starved. 
To death. 

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They know that is wrong. 
They want to have, they want to 

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bring them food. 
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shelters, schools being bombed, 
children being burned alive, 

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they want to stop that. 
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Why we went, I think that the 
the swift action you've seen as 

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you, as you say rightly illegal 
occupation by Russia, but it's 

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two militaries against each 
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action by the EU. 
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now the people across Europe are
saying what, like the double 

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standards is so blatant and the 
level of frustration from U.S. 

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politicians who are all we're 
asking for is international law 

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to be upheld. 
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we're asking for is that the 
same standard is applied to 

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Israel, is applied to any other 
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And it's not going to happen at 
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I've been back in the European 
Parliament a year now and the 

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chair of the Delegation for 
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repeatedly said you will not get
a consensus at the EU, at the EU

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level. 
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legal thing that a member state 
does, but it's also the morally 

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right thing to do, that they 
take unilateral action. 

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So Ireland has had this bill 
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Bill since 2018. 
It passed all stages in our 

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parliament, but it was blocked 
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years. 
The campaign to to reignite that

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bill obviously since 2023 has 
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we're almost ready now for the 
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But I really do believe that if 
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let's not forget this is just to
enact the ICJ ruling of July 

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2024, that the proceeds of crime
from a legal settlement should 

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not be sold, that if we do that,
it'll be the first domino that 

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will fall. 
We know other member states are 

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watching very closely what 
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They then hopefully would follow
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And then what happens is that 
the House of Cards comes down in

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terms of Israel's impunity 
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the illegal settlements, then we
go after the preferential trade,

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the arms embargo, the sanctions,
all of the tools that 

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politicians have that could be 
they could be doing today. 

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But I honestly believe that that
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countries will be emboldened to 
take action as well. 

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So that I was really the 
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there was, you know, how come no
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forward to sanction Israel and 
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But what what's holding Ireland 
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That's an interesting question. 
And her answer to that surprised

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The pressure coming on Ireland 
not to sanction Israel is not 

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coming from Brussels, Charles. 
It's coming from somewhere else.

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Listen to this. 
And that's why you see such 

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pressure coming on Ireland, 
particularly from the US because

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of our long standing 
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IPAC are pumping huge amounts of
money into taking out op eds in 

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very high profile newspapers. 
They are ramping up their 

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politicians that are IPAQ 
support, are supported by IPAQ, 

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sponsored by IPAQ and and 
getting them to call Ireland 

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anti-Semitic to challenge 
Ireland's bill. 

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But the reason why they're doing
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would be the downfall. 
The House of Cards will collapse

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if Ireland takes this action and
that's why we have to hold fast.

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So I mean, we have a lot of 
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investment in Ireland, a lot of 
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This bill though would only 
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But it's the Israel or no fools.
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this bill passing means there's 
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they're ramping up the pressure.
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is the the link between the US, 
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with the US and that's why they 
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do their dirty work and to try 
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Irish government. 
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that the Ambassador to Ireland 
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warned them of consequences if 
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We know that our former finance 
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finance minister, he also gave 
commitments to Israel that this 

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bill would never see the light 
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So this pressure is real. 
It's not imagined. 

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And I think that for the 
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withstand it for so long, 
withstand enacting the bill with

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the people power and the 
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the public means they have to do
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Because we're being told that if
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companies will have to comply 
with America's anti boycott, 

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anti sanctions laws. 
Our argument back is, well, one,

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there's only two or three 
companies that are involved that

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are because most companies don't
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occupied territories because 
they know it's toxic. 

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But two, that this is not 
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boycott of Israeli products 
because this is a Palestinian 

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land. 
This is the proceeds of crime 

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that Israel are committing by 
illegally occupying Palestinian 

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land and therefore it cannot be 
called a boycott of Israeli 

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products. 
So the legal arguments are on 

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our side. 
We know that, but the pressure 

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was is very real. 
It is coming from the US 

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predominantly, but it's people 
power that have forced this bill

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to the point where it is now 
where we've got a committee to 

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recommend full ban on trade. 
So it's very close. 

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It's just a question, like she 
said, like Lynn said, the domino

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needs to fall. 
And the first domino is the 

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Occupied Territories Bill, which
has been like held up forever 

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there. 
But Yasmin Ahmed, the UK 

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director of Human Rights Watch, 
made an important point. 

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We didn't include because of 
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Thatcher, Margaret Thatcher, she
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state of Israel for their 
aggression in Lebanon. 

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So if Margaret Thatcher can do 
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it, Charles? 
I think this is it, this is this

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is the question that will have 
bamboozled absolutely anybody, 

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certainly anybody that's been 
watching UK column over the last

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couple of years. 
But but it's, you know, it's 

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very interesting you watch a a 
meeting like this. 

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It is quite clearly it's not a 
it's not a fringe issue, There's

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not a it's not a minority 
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And you listen to the language 
that's used by people who in 

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fact don't have this agency, 
the, the words like must, you 

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know, governments must do this. 
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side, I mean, only this morning 
the Foreign Commonwealth and 

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Development Office were tweeting
out about aid that must get in, 

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that they must be given access 
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And yet they in effect, have it 
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that and don't. 
And we hear about the prospect 

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of using military intervention, 
military force here, there and 

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everywhere, but not in this 
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I'm not of course, advocating 
for throwing more volatile 

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content into that kind of an 
environment, but it is quite 

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pathetic to hear people 
commentating from the sidelines.

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It all be it that they are 
actually at the epicenter in the

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in the political arena, but they
will do nothing. 

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Yeah, they'll do nothing, so 
we'll wait and see. 

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Now some people are doing 
something, Charles, and one of 

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those countries is Slovenia. 
Just briefly, we'll bring this 

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up on screen here. 
This is the latest in Europe and

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this is Slovenia becoming the 
first EU country to ban arms 

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trade with Israel. 
That is a full arms embargo 

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against Israel. 
So just as we speak, this story 

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breaks really over the last 
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So that's interesting. 
This comes on the heels of this 

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also from Slovenia. 
Slovenia bans Bengavir and 

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Smoltrich to the most not so 
savory people walking the earth 

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at the moment from entering 
their genocidal for the 

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statements that they made 
against Gaza. 

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So they, that's interesting. 
So Slovenia is really has broken

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the door down here. 
And just on that note as well, 

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Canada, Canada who's been, you 
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recognizing A Palestinian state 
this week. 

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Well, as we revealed here in 
this report just filed 

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yesterday, Canada's 
uninterrupted flow of arms 

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deliveries to Israel through 
various third parties and back 

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channels. 
So all of the details are there 

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and but here, here's the real, 
this is the real scam that is 

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going to take place now. 
Take a look at this. 

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This is very important to 
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This is the new 2 state solution
push OK, everybody's on board 

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now with the two state solution 
finally after so long of just 

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abandoning any anything because 
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But if you look at the details 
in here, it's quite damning and 

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we go into all the the basic 
plans and what they're trying to

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do is turn the Gaza into the 
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They're trying to West bankify 
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And this is really the most 
important part It's in the 

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headline here from Frustration 
magazine. 

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Love the title of that magazine 
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Why does France want to 
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So Israel still, in fact, Israel
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brings negotiations back to 
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You know exactly how to bring it

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willing to basically put their 
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canned at some point in the next
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Yeah, we can't do that anymore. 
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I'm sure you're right and 
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interrogation of what you've 
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mainstream media, so. 
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whistleblower from the Gaza 
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think Anthony Aguilar is his 
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gambit. 
Charles is quite something. 

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Listen to this. 
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face that our client is the IDF,
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client is the IDF. 
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once where I was in the control 
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I was on operation, I was on 
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all four sites, and these 
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you pick them up there and put 
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Control Center with us comes up 
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I was like, I know they they 
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Nope. 
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much of, like, much more than 
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speak Hebrew and he notifies me.
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snipers at the IDF position 
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located with an Israeli base. 
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to take these kids out. 
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He's like, yeah. 
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one of the mercenaries there, a 
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probably who was pro Israel 
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anymore. 
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client was the IDF. 
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That mean that to me was quite a
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fraudulent humanitarian 
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It's just unbelievable. 
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I mean, there's been plenty of 
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hit, but to hear it said out 
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staggering. 
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indeed for that. 
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further what what you've been 
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Now we'll go across to Mark, 
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specifically with regard to 
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Hello, guys, and hello, viewers.
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former Chicago CFR. 
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about 15 years. 
They're one of the busiest think

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tanks in the US, as I've 
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real time virtually last 
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So these are all original photos
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The name of the program, the 
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What's next for Iran, Israel and
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Of course, US interests were 
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mention right up front is Leslie
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president. 
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She's fresh out of Chatham House
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little bit of more of a bias in 
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It's a little early to tell for 
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little bit. 
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advisor at the Bulletin of the 
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president and CEO overseeing its
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Doomsday Clock. 
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a quick reminder of what it 
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Perhaps it's from the Bulletin 
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a famous thing. 
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speakers, all original photo 
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We have left Robert Pape will be
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University of Chicago political 
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the Chicago project on security 
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power, etcetera. 
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directs the Iran project and 
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President at the International 
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What is the Iran project? 
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principal democracy to prevent 
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nuclear weapon and avert 
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East. 
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pretty biased against Iran, 
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for Israel's interests. 
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I have a summary of what they 
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Robert Pape spoke of the big 
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He referred to Iran allegedly 
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uranium. 
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we're told. 
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weeks away from 90% allegedly 
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10 nuclear weapons worth 
allegedly. 

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But he asked, where's the 408 
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It's not known. 
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victory narrative. 
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most destruction in Israel since
1973. 

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The damage is worse than 
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formerly US supported Iran 
nuclear deal expires in October.

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So that that UN nuclear deal 
expires in October. 

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The UN resolution that endorsed 
it, that is. 

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And then Rachel Bronson claimed 
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Israel's attack was so, quote, 
so consequential. 

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And she said that Iran, in her 
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intelligent gaps, intelligence 
gaps, that is, that it can 

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exploit. 
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picked up on this in recent 
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amassed 408kg of uranium 
enriched up to 60%. 

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And this is according to the 
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Energy Agency, a branch of the 
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But of course, Iran claims it's 
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And we haven't heard that much 
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It's, it's something that's kept
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But here's Mr. Pape from the 
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elaborating on that point. 
I think the big number folks you

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should focus on is the 
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Iran had at the end of May, 
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That was the core concern. 
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that four O 8 is what they need.
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weeks away of moving that up to 
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That four O 8 was the equivalent
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And the estimates were they were
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months away. 
You'd have to enrich, you'd have

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to formulate that in to assemble
the bombs and so forth. 

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Well, where is that four O 8 
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We don't know. 
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conclusion of every single one 
of those hypothetical bombing 

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scenarios that we did to take 
out with exquisite precision 

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every building standing above 
ground. 

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Well, we pretty much did that. 
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what I called double tap 
attacks. 

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That was my name for it. 
Wasn't even called a name in 20 

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years ago. 
Where GPS. 

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The thing you need to know about
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It's not just two-dimensional 
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So if the first bomb creates a 
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target that depth another and 
the third can maybe penetrate 

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all the way through into those 
into those halls. 

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Well, the fundamental problem we
were always going to face that 

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word futile was we would never 
be able to find verify that four

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O 8. 
And in this case, it's actually 

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worse because in the intervening
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started the bombing and United 
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Natanz, we know through 
satellite imagery, civilian 

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satellite imagery, which is now 
exquisite, that there were 

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trucks taking stuff out from 
Bordeaux. 

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So those are. 
Mr. Pape's claims he's, by the 

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way, the author of a book called
Bombing to Win from 1996. 

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A curious title to say the 
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Israel's arsenal or anything 
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just a passing comment at the 
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So it seems like while there 
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the other hand, it could be 
largely or completely for 

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peaceful uses. 
And at any rate, Israel always 

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gets a pass on its arsenal and 
any inspections there, which 

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never happened. 
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unexpected thing to hear for me,
at least at this program, but an

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important thing to get out on 
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So back to you guys. 
Thanks very much, Mark. 

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I think important to point out 
that absence of evidence is not 

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the same as evidence of absence 
as it were. 

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And I think those two things are
very easily confused and 

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conflated. 
I'm going to have a bit more on 

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Iran later in the programme. 
But now what we're going to do 

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is take a report from Will 
Coleshill which concerns the 

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Paloma Shemarani inquest. 
And he has been at that inquest 

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over the past week. 
And he's going to present his 

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findings now in recorded video, 
which deal exclusively with the 

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sort of medical malpractice and 
medical ethics side of it, as 

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well as possible breach of their
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BBC. 
Hello this is Will. 

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Coleshill reporting for UK 
column. 

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I'm here down at Kent and Midway
Coroner's Court where I'm 

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reporting on the 5th day of the 
inquest into the death of Paloma

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Shamrani. 
Now the court case is not done 

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yet, but we've heard a 
significant amount of evidence. 

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This case of course has been 
propelled into the spotlight 

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because of the mother of Paloma,
Kate Shamrani, who is of course 

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a famous freedom activist. 
Considering the BBC pieces in 

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terms of an article, a Panorama 
episode and also a podcast 

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series by Mariana Spring where 
they were framed to allege, 

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especially in terms of 
accusations by Paloma's brother 

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Gabriel, that is Kate's son, 
that Kate Shimrani had killed 

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her own daughter. 
We've heard a significant amount

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of evidence from a number of 
doctors. 

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And the key focus for much of 
this case so far has actually 

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been whether Paloma had the 
competence to be able to make 

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her own decisions informed to 
choose alternative therapies 

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rather than the mainstream 
conventional medical therapies. 

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A lot of the original few days 
covered the inciting incident 

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when Paloma first found a 
mediastinal mass in her chest 

455
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and went to the hospital where a
number of things happened which 

456
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seemed to undermine any trust 
Paloma would have had in 

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conventional medicine. 
Now Paloma obviously did have a 

458
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:05,280
background in alternative 
therapy, but there seemed to 

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have been a number of alleged 
errors and malpractices that, at

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least in Paloma's views, 
according to her statements, 

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have led her to distrust the NHS
and conventional medicine and 

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fear them and feel like she was 
being bullied. 

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These include being denied A 
wristband and being administered

464
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:29,880
drugs without consent and then 
being pressured into signing a 

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00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,520
consent form for chemotherapy by
doctors. 

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00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,200
Now, obviously this is alleged 
at the moment, but backing this 

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up was Paloma's own statements 
to the High Court. 

468
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Indeed, it's quite a complex but
very interesting case because 

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this is one of the few cases 
where we actually have the 

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statements very categorically of
the person in question into whom

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this inquest is being conducted.
Paloma, despite this original 

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incident happening in late 2023 
around the end of the year, died

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in summer 2024 while she was 
currently in a battle with her 

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brother over her medical 
autonomy and her capacity. 

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During this time, she's spending
some of the last of her money in

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order to fight her brother in 
court to maintain her medical 

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autonomy and stay with her 
mother pursuing alternative 

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therapies. 
What's quite interesting is 

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despite multiple hours of 
coverage, an article, a piece by

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00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:27,680
Panorama and A5 part podcast 
series, the BBC chose to omit 

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Palomas signed statements from 
their coverage. 

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Now why do I say that they chose
to admit this coverage was quite

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00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,480
interesting. 
The other day I was here and I 

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spoke to one of the BBC 
employees who told me they were 

485
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,720
aware when they made them. 
Now I was given an e-mail. 

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00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,960
I've then submitted a line of 
questions to one of the 

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00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,600
producers at the BB CS BBC 
e-mail address and I've also 

488
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,640
forwarded this over to the BBC 
press office in order to have 

489
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,080
these questions answered. 
As of yet, at the time of 

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00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,440
recording I've received no 
response to these questions, 

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00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,360
which do seem like the BBC has 
acted in a bias nature and 

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00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,560
breached their editorial 
guidelines as well as the BBC 

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00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,480
charter. 
During this case we've heard 

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from a number of doctors who 
were in contact with Paloma who 

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have confirmed her competence. 
Not only the initial doctor 

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against whom much is alleged, 
Dr. Mohan, who confirmed 

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Paloma's competence, but also 
her psychologist. 

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00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,560
And we saw many, many hours, I 
believe it may have been 5 or 6 

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hours of questioning who again 
completely asserted Paloma's 

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00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,640
competence. 
We saw questioning of a 

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hyperbaric oxygen therapist, and
we also saw questioning of AGP. 

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00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,120
Now, all four of these doctors 
confirmed Paloma was competent, 

503
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,080
intelligent, and able to make 
her own decisions about her 

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00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,360
medical treatment. 
And that's what a lot of this 

505
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,480
comes down to, whether Paloma 
had the right to choose her 

506
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,240
medical treatment and choose 
alternative therapy over 

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00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,440
conventional therapy, or whether
because she chose that 

508
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,200
alternative treatment, it is 
highly likely she was being 

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00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,400
coerced. 
There have been some very 

510
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,280
interesting actions by the 
coroner presiding over the case.

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00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,800
We've seen the coroner mute Kate
a number of times. 

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00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,080
We've seen fireworks. 
We've seen mother and son 

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00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,720
essentially interrogating each 
other. 

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00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,120
One significant factor is we've 
actually seen some malicious 

515
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,040
action within this case. 
For one, I had a malicious 

516
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,920
allegation against me that I was
somehow filming in the court 

517
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when it would have been 
effectively impossible for me to

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00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,120
do so. 
I'm considering I was sat right 

519
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,800
at the front of the press room 
in front of a camera live link 

520
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,400
to the main courtroom. 
Somehow I was meant to a film 

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00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,160
there. 
Obviously this is a spurious 

522
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,960
allegation, but clearly someone 
was trying to prevent 

523
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,080
alternative media coverage of 
the court case. 

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00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,920
I have reported this as a 
malicious accusation to the 

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00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,920
coroner and this has been noted 
and accepted, but I'm waiting to

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see what comes of it because 
clearly there is a huge amount 

527
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,960
of mainstream media interest 
here, but very little by the 

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00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,560
alternative media. 
A lot of what has happened so 

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00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,360
far has been determined by 
Paloma's competence, 

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00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,960
investigating it and whether she
was able to make her own 

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decision. 
However, in the coming weeks, 

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00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,880
when we'll be back here again at
this court, we're going to look 

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00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,040
at the days leading up to 
Paloma's death. 

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00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,880
We've already heard from a 
Doctor Who was there with Paloma

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00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,840
at the end when she died. 
However, we're going to hear 

536
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,320
from the ambulance crew and 
we're going to look at the 

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00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,280
administration of adrenaline 
which Kate Shimrani is alleging 

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00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,760
killed Paloma by overloading her
as she collapsed on that fateful

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00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,520
day on July the 19th, 2024. 
We're yet to hear. 

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00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,600
From the ambulance crews, Kate 
Cave a very, very emotional but 

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00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,360
very strong statement condemning
their action and the amount of 

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00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,960
time that they spent waiting 
around before going down to the 

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00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,560
hospital to try and treat her. 
And that is likely what these 

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00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,960
last few days is going to focus 
upon, on the actual events 

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00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,920
directly leading up to her death
rather than her competence. 

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00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:55,440
However, what I think we've seen
from these five days in court is

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00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,920
a refutation of what the BBC has
put out, at least in terms of 

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00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,120
the evidence that has been seen 
so far. 

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00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,080
The evidence overwhelmingly 
points to the competence of 

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Paloma. 
So I believe there's a question 

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00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,440
to ask as to the BBC coverage as
to Marianna Spring. 

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00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:11,880
And as to. 
Whether? 

553
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,320
Anybody. 
Else. 

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00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,600
Who chose to take? 
In natural treatment and 

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00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,960
happened to die would ever have 
this sort of coverage or whether

556
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,960
there are further agendas at 
play. 

557
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,360
Thank you. 
I'm Will Coleshill, reporting 

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00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:33,640
for UK column News from Kent. 
Well, Cole Sylvan, very Many 

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00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,680
thanks to him for a really 
comprehensive report and I'm 

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00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,520
sure you will have all formed 
your own view as to whether 

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00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,240
there are further agendas at 
play. 

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00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,480
But seems completely remarkable 
that the censorship that we 

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00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,480
experience so much in what we do
is actually playing out even in 

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00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,440
the coroner's court. 
In real time. 

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00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,120
Completely extraordinary, but 
well done. 

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00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,760
Home for challenging to the BBC 
now to follow what he says. 

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00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,720
I I would just remind you that 
the UK column website is 

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00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,200
absolutely jam packed with 
information on so many topics. 

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But any of these things that are
discussed in the news and 

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00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,880
particularly the medical ethics 
issues that are raised in this 

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00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,040
inquest can be examined in great
detail on on the website. 

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00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:18,120
To do go to the search function 
on the UK column website to as 

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your first port of call. 
I would also remind you that of 

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course, we are funded solely by 
donations from our viewers and 

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00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,840
indeed subscriptions from our 
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And if you'd like to join, we'd 
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This is how you would do so. 

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There's a great big button on 
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So please do. 

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And there are all the various 
options for membership. 

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Now on Thursday, yesterday, a 
sensational interview between 

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Ben Rubin and all Goth centred 
on George Orwells 1942 SA 

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England your England. 
It's gone out being very well 

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received. 
So so please do listen back to 

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that going out tonight. 
We've got the weekly banter 

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00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,040
session, Mike and I talking to 
Germ on the germ warfare 

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00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,920
programme at 7:00. 
And something else we've 

588
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,960
discussed in the main news 
programme is the petition to 

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00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:13,040
repeal the Online Safety Act, 
which is playing a huge part in 

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00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,639
obstructing the work that UK 
column is trying to carry out, 

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00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:19,280
but also the very many other 
organisations occupying the 

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00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,120
space outside of the mainstream 
media. 

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The petition, if you can't see 
it on screen, has now accrued 

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00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,920
nearly 500,000 signatures. 
So please do put your weight 

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00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,920
behind it because it does 
pertain to our very future as an

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00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,920
organization. 
And just the title. 

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Repeal the Online Safety Act 
petition that's available where 

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it is that will. 
Be in the show notes so there'll

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be a link to it and please don't
just sign it but send it on as 

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well. 
That would be terrific. 

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And then upcoming events, we had
Katie Jo on the programme on 

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00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,760
Wednesday on Extra that is 
promoting her Freedom Music 

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Festival coming up over the 
August bank holiday weekend. 

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Now there is a discount code UKC
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if you are going to book for 
that through hearing information

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I've just given you. 
So please go to that. 

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It would be absolutely 
sensational. 

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And indeed in October we have 
our own event coming up UK 

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column on location in the 
beautiful City of York. 

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We are yet to announce our heavy
of speakers, but we will start 

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to do so fairly shortly and I 
can tell you that you are in for

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a sensational day if you're 
going to be there. 

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If you can't make it, then of 
course live stream tickets are 

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already available on the 
website, but if you're after an 

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in person ticket, I must remind 
you that nearly half of them are

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gone already, so they're selling
fast. 

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Please do not tarry. 
Kenny has helpfully put together

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a small video which you're 
looking at now, which will 

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describe how to buy your ticket 
via shop. 

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So we'll very much hope to see 
you there or indeed have you on 

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the end of the live stream and 
that's coming up in October. 

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But as I say, tickets on the 
website now. 

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Now I did say that I was going 
to be looking a little bit more 

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00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,680
at Iran. 
This is only a brief update. 

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00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,880
And of course, as Patrick's been
articulating at the beginning of

626
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,680
the programme, Gaza is quite 
rightly dominating most of the 

627
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,720
headlines. 
So the anti Iran propaganda, in 

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00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:14,720
the United Kingdom at least, has
been been slightly muted 

629
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:17,840
recently. 
Until yesterday, that is, when 

630
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,440
Hamish Faulkner, the minister 
for the Middle East and North 

631
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,920
Africa, took to Twitter to 
promote a statement about state 

632
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,240
threats from Iranian 
intelligence services. 

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And he's referring to a joint 
statement issued by a number of 

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00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,960
European countries as well as 
the United States, which 

635
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,240
suggests that the Iranians are 
attempting to kill and kidnap 

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00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:40,600
people across Europe and North 
America. 

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00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,000
Now, the language used is loose 
as the word threat conveys the 

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00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,440
sense that there is a declared 
intent by Iran and indeed that 

639
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,480
such activities have actually 
taken place. 

640
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,240
But of course, no evidence of 
any such thing is provided. 

641
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,400
Now, tellingly is a short 
statement, but there is a 

642
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:03,200
specific reference to the threat
to quote Jewish citizens. 

643
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:05,720
End Quote. 
As opposed to Jewish people 

644
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,280
suggesting that being Jewish 
supersedes the confines of 

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00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,880
nationality which portrays, one 
might think, the influences upon

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00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,360
this statement being made in the
1st place. 

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00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,840
And this is also the time to 
remind you that Hamish Faulkner 

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00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,880
was the man responsible for 
preparing the ground so busily 

649
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,920
for the American Top Gun style 
bunker busting attack on Irans 

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00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:31,560
nuclear programme as it's being 
described. 

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00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,200
Despite, as I mentioned at the 
end of Marx report report, the 

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00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,800
complete absence of evidence 
that the enrichment of uranium 

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00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,720
was for any purpose other than 
energy for the civil 

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00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,160
infrastructure. 
Now watch this space as the 

655
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:47,280
rhetoric builds for what might 
be called a false flag attack. 

656
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,960
Very briefly, Patrick, what are 
your thoughts on this, this side

657
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,360
of this side of the, I mean, are
you? 

658
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,040
Insinuating Charles, that a 
Western government might cook up

659
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,600
a weapons of mass destruction 
plot in order to give a pretext 

660
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,080
for another military act of 
aggression. 

661
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,320
Yes, I think it's probably. 
Stronger than an insinuation. 

662
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,440
Actually, I think that's exactly
what I'm doing and, and I think 

663
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,200
we will wait to see. 
Obviously we've got the the 

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00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,840
aircraft carrier, the Nimitz in 
a, let's say, a vulnerable 

665
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,680
position as well. 
So where any of these things are

666
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,640
going to happen or could happen 
remains to be seen, but it's a 

667
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,760
possibility, I think. 
Yeah. 

668
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,160
And the the. 
Kidnapping plot. 

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00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,200
I mean, this is just there's so 
been so many of these over the 

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years, but the fact that they're
trying to elevate these to sort 

671
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,440
of like national security, like 
5 star threat level is just kind

672
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,840
of beyond the pale. 
But in a way it's an act of 

673
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,120
desperation. 
But it where is this going to 

674
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,200
end? 
Are we going to have a Russia 

675
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,600
style hysterical moment in the 
West? 

676
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,000
But with Iran, like everything 
Iranian or linked to Iran or you

677
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,760
know, Iranian restaurants, the 
food is suspect. 

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00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,480
That's how it was during 
Russiagate, Yeah, absolutely no.

679
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,320
I think we should expect all of 
that and more. 

680
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,840
But anyway, insofar as nefarious
dealings with media reporting is

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00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,640
concerned, we're going to go now
over to Northern Ireland to hear

682
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,040
from Mike about what the BBC has
been putting out and this time 

683
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,400
in relation to air turbulence. 
Thank you, Charles. 

684
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,560
And welcome to sunny Northern 
Ireland. 

685
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,600
I'm just going to cover one very
short topic today, and that is 

686
00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:20,480
ABBC article. 
This is the second time that I'm

687
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,840
aware of that they've done this 
thing. 

688
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,360
So let's just have a look at 
this. 

689
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,960
This is the article they 
published why plane turbulence 

690
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,000
is really becoming more frequent
and more severe. 

691
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,040
So in the headline, they're 
absolutely clear that plane 

692
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,600
turbulence much more common, 
much more severe than it's ever 

693
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,800
been in the past. 
And they put a graph on here and

694
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,360
you'll notice that the headline 
of the graph is turbulence 

695
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:51,240
related passenger plane 
accidents in the US 2009 to 

696
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:54,080
2018. 
Now the definition of an 

697
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,800
accident with respect to 
turbulence is when somebody is 

698
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,520
injured in some way. 
So that might be because they've

699
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:04,400
flown out of their seat and hit 
a luggage bin, for example, or 

700
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,160
have fallen while they've been 
walking up the aisle or 

701
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,320
whatever. 
So that's the definition of 

702
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,040
accident. 
It doesn't mean that an aircraft

703
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,080
has crashed at all. 
But if you look at the graph 

704
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,920
there, you'll see first of all, 
that they aren't listing years 

705
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,840
at all. 
They're listing months. 

706
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,960
So that isn't from 2009 to 2018 
apparently. 

707
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,560
And well. 
That they claim that this 

708
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,520
information is from the NTSB. 
If we look in the article 

709
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:37,320
itself, and this is kind of 
indicative of the language that 

710
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:42,280
they're using, we can expect 
maybe in the future perhaps this

711
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,840
is based on models, is based on 
assessments by so-called experts

712
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:50,520
and so on. 
And they say if turbulence does 

713
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,960
get more intense. 
So this is not definitive. 

714
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,680
The headline suggests that it 
is, but actually the article is 

715
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,080
very, very clear that it isn't. 
So at the very least the the 

716
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,880
headline is a lie. 
The graph is perhaps a lie in 

717
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,480
certainly in the way that it's 
presented. 

718
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,480
So let's just remind ourselves 
of what the NTSB, this is the 

719
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,680
National Transportation Safety 
Board in the United States says 

720
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:20,440
about turbulence in this. 
This, as you'll see there, we've

721
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,320
labeled as UKC Verify. 
Because. 

722
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,400
This article or this report is 
called Preventing Turbulence 

723
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,800
related in injuries in Air 
Carrier Operations conducted 

724
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,840
under Title 14, Code of Federal 
Regulations, Part 121. 

725
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,640
And if we look at the graph that
they produce there, well, the 

726
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,520
dark blue line at the at the 
bottom is the one which is 

727
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,560
referred as accidents with 
respect to turbulence. 

728
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:54,640
And you can see that line since 
in fact 1980 nine there is 

729
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,920
pretty much flat right the way 
across. 

730
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:01,200
There's been no increase in 
incidents of turbulence related 

731
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,760
accidents. 
That's despite, as the BBC says 

732
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:09,920
in their article, the increase 
in air travel and the much more 

733
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,840
likely. 
Potential. 

734
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:17,280
For coming across turbulence 
just by the fact that people are

735
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,600
flying much more often. 
So that's it. 

736
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,320
I just couldn't let that 
particular report pass even 

737
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,000
though I'm over in Northern 
Ireland today. 

738
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,040
So that's, that's that for now. 
Back to you, Charles. 

739
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,480
Thanks very much, Mike. 
And indeed, nor should it be let

740
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,680
to pass by unquestioned, 
unscrutinised and on the subject

741
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:42,480
of propaganda and just I'm. 
Disappointed in the findings of 

742
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,400
that report, Charles. 
I thought it was going to be 

743
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,480
climate change. 
Well, Patrick? 

744
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,800
You know, let's just wait. 
I mean, there's plenty of time 

745
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,760
for that. 
I feel empty inside. 

746
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:51,360
Right now. 
Yeah. 

747
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,120
All right. 
Let's see, though, on the 

748
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,520
subject of propaganda, what's 
been happening in Slovakia. 

749
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,680
Well. 
There's another organization, an

750
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,120
NGO that might sound familiar if
you've been watching the UK 

751
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,960
column news. 
We'll bring this up on screen 

752
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,560
here. 
The Zinc Network. 

753
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,400
What are they up to? 
British propaganda machine and 

754
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,400
its influence peddling in 
Slovakia's elections. 

755
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,440
Well, Declassified UK did a very
good investigative report on 

756
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:23,040
Zinc's role in hiring and paying
influencers to defame and try to

757
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,400
influence and also to kind of 
derail the campaign of Robert 

758
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,520
Fizzo, this Slovakian leader. 
Obviously he's against the war 

759
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,520
in Ukraine. 
That's all always going to put 

760
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,320
him on the bad list as far as 
Western NATO goes. 

761
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,840
But yeah, Zinc as as Mike Rumson
and others have pointed out, 

762
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,640
well, if you look at the funding
from the FCO and so forth, 

763
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,240
that's a very well funded 
organization and this is what 

764
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:49,600
they get up to with the money, 
surprise, surprise. 

765
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,880
So that's something to to look 
at. 

766
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:57,440
And then just over to quickly to
the to the economic topic here. 

767
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,600
Donald Trump is a continuing to 
weaponize tariffs, OK, He's now 

768
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:05,240
threatening the BRICS countries.
He's he's accusing them of 

769
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:10,040
enacting an anti US agenda. 
So this is a bit like a vicious 

770
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,440
cycle for the US here. 
I mean, the reason there is a 

771
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,880
BRICS is because of U.S. 
sanctions and Donald Trump is 

772
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,880
again continuing to use tariffs 
as sanctions. 

773
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,320
And so you this, this problem is
just going to get worse and 

774
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,160
worse. 
And I don't really know if 

775
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,000
there's an exit door for this 
administration on this issue, 

776
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,280
but they don't seem to have 
anything else in the toolbox, so

777
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,800
it's not looking good, No, and. 
I suppose, you know, we just 

778
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,400
wait for the next installment 
because it'll change in a few 

779
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,920
minutes presumably, possibly 
even by the time we've finished 

780
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,640
the programme. 
Now sticking in the United 

781
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,960
States, we're going to go across
to Mark because one of the 

782
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,400
reasons or at least perhaps the 
main reason that the COVID 

783
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,400
vaccines in particular were 
rolled out quite so widely with 

784
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,000
Gay abandoned was because there 
was a state of indemnity for the

785
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,800
manufacturers. 
And Thomas Massey is trying to 

786
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,960
deal with this in the United 
States. 

787
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,680
Mark, what exactly is happening?
Well, call this. 

788
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,600
A spotlight on Congress for 
today. 

789
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:13,040
Of course, Ronald Reagan gave 
protection to Big Pharma back in

790
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,320
1986 with some things that he 
passed and signed. 

791
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:22,480
But Thomas Massie, the gutsy 
backbencher that still makes his

792
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,720
voice heard despite all the 
pressure on him to shut up and 

793
00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:29,160
to turn tail and run. 
He's pushing forward now. 

794
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,600
Not really a lone wolf, but he's
doing this largely on his own 

795
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,200
steam. 
He doesn't have a whole lot of 

796
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:40,640
support yet, but this is him 
announcing the introduction of 

797
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:45,600
the Prep Repeal Act. 
It's noted as HR4388 to repeal 

798
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:50,400
sections 319-F3 and 319-F4 of 
the Public Health Service Act. 

799
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,760
These targeted sections are 
commonly referred to as the 

800
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,560
Public Readiness and Emergency 
Preparedness or PREP Act and 

801
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,240
currently provides sweeping 
liability protections to 

802
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:06,680
pharmaceutical companies for 
pandemic related products. 

803
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,280
And here's some of the main 
things that it does. 

804
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,200
I'll only touch on 2. 
Let's put that up. 

805
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,320
It fully repeals the liability 
Shields and the compensation 

806
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,480
fund provisions under this PREP 
Act and it restores civil remedy

807
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,720
rights. 
That is civil remedy rights, 

808
00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:26,440
excuse me, under federal and 
state law for those harmed by 

809
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:31,360
pandemic products. 
So right now, according to 

810
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:35,720
congress.gov, which is the 
Library of Congress, the main 

811
00:46:35,720 --> 00:46:39,080
site for for Congress, it 
doesn't have any Co sponsors 

812
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,400
yet. 
It was just introduced, but it's

813
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,920
important to get this out there.
Those overseas need to be aware 

814
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,680
of it. 
And American viewers, of course,

815
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,760
need to take action if they're 
so inclined. 

816
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,840
Thomas Massie's personal 
website, well, his official 

817
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,440
website that is for Congress is 
very open to people calling. 

818
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,880
He has a very open policy, 
whether it's media or his 

819
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,600
constituents. 
And of course non constituents 

820
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,880
can call. 
It's not forbidden or anything 

821
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,160
like that to call and, and voice
their support. 

822
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,880
And to learn more about his call
for repeal of the PREP Act, 

823
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,400
here's a couple of his most 
important quotes. 

824
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,720
He had this to. 
Say, and this is interesting, I 

825
00:47:17,720 --> 00:47:22,600
put emphasis on this, the PREP 
Act is medical malpractice, 

826
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,440
martial law. 
Interesting choice of words 

827
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,520
there. 
The 2005 PREP Act prevents 

828
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,400
people from holding corporations
accountable for the pain and 

829
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,840
suffering they caused during 
presidentially declared 

830
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,960
emergencies. 
An important caveat there. 

831
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,040
And moving on from there, one 
other quote from Mr. Massey, 

832
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,920
again, I added some emphasis. 
Americans deserve the right to 

833
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,480
seek justice when injured by 
government mandated products. 

834
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,680
The Prep Repeal Act will restore
that right, says the Kentucky 

835
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,360
Republican District 4. 
So he's putting it out there. 

836
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,200
Very important stuff. 
It kind of supplements some of 

837
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,200
the other things going on that 
I've reported where even Israel,

838
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,240
as well as Italy, the United 
States, the Netherlands, 

839
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:11,640
Slovenia, and even Iran have 
signed letters that they're not 

840
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,760
taking part in. 
The amendments to the 

841
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,400
International Health Regulations
And the actual pandemic treaty 

842
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,120
due to certain elements within 
the treaty itself, as I've 

843
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:24,720
noted, cannot be fully enacted 
until a little bit less than a 

844
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:28,600
year from now because of that, 
because of those provisions. 

845
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,400
And that's when the final 
signatures would be put into 

846
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,000
that thing and only then would 
it be official. 

847
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,080
So it we've got some time on the
treaty. 

848
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,160
The regulations are wrapping up 
that that is they're they're 

849
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,400
kind of drawing to a close where
they're going to be pretty 

850
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,640
solidified and yet they're still
more and more opposition or 

851
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,920
questions about the 
international health regulations

852
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,720
themselves. 
So I'll keep following this. 

853
00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:55,440
It's very important to keep tabs
on it over the long haul. 

854
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,480
So back to you guys. 
Thanks very much, Mark. 

855
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,320
Yeah, it is indeed very 
important to keep that in mind 

856
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:03,960
and good for Thomas Massie 
having a go. 

857
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,840
There will be monumental 
corporate pressure pushing back 

858
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,360
the other way against any 
efforts to repeal that act. 11 

859
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,520
would imagine Thomas Massie 
noticeable, of course, because 

860
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,000
he was also behind the prime 
bill, which concerned regulation

861
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,240
for slaughter on a small scale 
for the the sort of smaller 

862
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,800
American farmer. 
And that leads into a report. 

863
00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:25,400
I'm going to start now about 
food because just a couple of 

864
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,520
weeks ago the government put out
abrasive documents about food 

865
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:30,960
which are designed to give the 
impression that there is a 

866
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,080
central plan to improve the 
health of the nation. 

867
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,720
At the same time as improving 
economic conditions for food 

868
00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:41,000
producers and deriving A 
restored environment from the 

869
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,640
process. 
Labour's so-called plan for 

870
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,800
change is deployed yet again to 
make it sound like the pursuit 

871
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,080
or achievement of any of these 
things is both a novel idea and 

872
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,800
indeed within the gift of the 
government to give. 

873
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,120
Now this is a crucial point 
because the good food cycle 

874
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,360
shown here refers to the quote 
amazing businesses, End Quote, 

875
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,880
making this happen. 
And of course, the reality is 

876
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,120
that the big food and big 
agricultural businesses are able

877
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,720
to drive the agenda, partly due 
to their corporate strength and 

878
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:13,760
lobbying power, but also because
the government schemes, policies

879
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,480
and subsidies are all designed 
to favour them above others. 

880
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:22,440
Now, the Food Strategy document 
put out on the same day makes 

881
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,960
the same sort of woolly claims, 
suggesting that food security 

882
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,560
and national security are 
inextricably linked. 

883
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,040
Now that may well be the case, 
but as reported many times, the 

884
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,400
recent publication of the 
National Security Strategy, the 

885
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:39,320
Strategic Defence Review, as 
well as last year's just in case

886
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,480
report for the National 
Preparedness Commission 

887
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,600
demonstrates beyond all 
reasonable doubt that the UK is 

888
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,200
not in any way prepared for any 
of the types of shocks that it 

889
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,160
describes in any of these these 
documents. 

890
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,160
Now before going into more 
detail, there are two things to 

891
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,560
point out. 
Firstly, the term food security,

892
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,640
which is bandied around all the 
time only occurs 3 times on the 

893
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,280
statute book and never in a 
binding sense. 

894
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:08,240
It's only ever written down as a
consideration when evaluating 

895
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:11,680
environmental schemes and I 
think that makes the priorities 

896
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,920
here very clear. 
Secondly, the budget for 

897
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,440
agriculture in the UK this year,
which has been described as the 

898
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,240
largest ever, is £5 billion. 
Now, it would take the National 

899
00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:24,120
Health Service just 10 days to 
spend this much money. 

900
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,560
So I think you can decide 
whether you think the government

901
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,640
is actually sincere on this 
issue. 

902
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,040
As to the content, it's been 
pointed out by many, including 

903
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,680
Farmers Weekly, this plan does 
not involve animals, and having 

904
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,280
read the document, that is 
really the case. 

905
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,520
There are precisely 0 mentions 
of dairy or meat, but instead a 

906
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,920
reshaping of a diet in order 
that we all eat the same thing. 

907
00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:49,400
Regardless of the vast 
quantities of evidence 

908
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,200
suggesting that animals benefit 
the environment and of course 

909
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,600
that animal products are in fact
vital for human health. 

910
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,680
The anti nature agenda is 
covered on all sides as 

911
00:51:59,720 --> 00:52:02,480
evidenced by one of the latest 
emergencies. 

912
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,520
But to just draw out from the 
document, they're, they're 

913
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,440
suggesting that we have the 
foundations of the economy at 

914
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,080
heart with this new food 
strategy and that our diet 

915
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,640
should be higher in fruit, 
vegetables and whole grains. 

916
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,800
And of course that it supports 
our net 0 commitments. 

917
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,880
But on the subject of 
emergencies, we are dealing yet 

918
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,200
again with blue tongue, or at 
least in this instance, and I've

919
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,120
covered it many times. 
But just a reminder that the 

920
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,840
restrictions on movement are of 
course specifically crafted in 

921
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,560
order to encourage vaccination, 
even though, and as usual, the 

922
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,160
vaccines in question given under
emergency authorisation. 

923
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,280
And it should also be pointed 
out, the people investing in 

924
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,720
fake meat grown in laboratories 
are exactly the same people 

925
00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:51,320
investing in pharmaceutical 
products for animals. 

926
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:56,360
And further, that the volume of 
these products is that goes to 

927
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,880
animals far outstrips that to 
humans. 

928
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,080
So I mean, it's, it's, it's 
pretty obvious what the 

929
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,720
direction of travel is. 
Now the other big issue which of

930
00:53:05,720 --> 00:53:08,240
course will not go away is 
population. 

931
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:14,200
And as recent statistics from 
the ONS suggest, and they are in

932
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,240
the estimates, but the natural 
population, as you can see on 

933
00:53:17,240 --> 00:53:21,520
screen, dipping down relatively 
sharply to the right, whereas 

934
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,480
the migrant population is 
surging upwards with a with a 

935
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,480
estimated net inflow of nearly 
700,000 for the previous year. 

936
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:33,360
So considering these factors, 
how the land is used could not 

937
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,880
really be more important. 
And I cite here the consultation

938
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:41,400
live at the moment called 
multifunctional land use. 

939
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,160
And they say that there's going 
to be a document produced from 

940
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,200
this consultation in October of 
this year. 

941
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:51,720
They cite the Royal Society's 
2023 Multifunctional Land Use 

942
00:53:51,720 --> 00:53:57,840
Document, which reckons on 
quote, an additional 4.4 million

943
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,440
hectares of land, which is 18% 
of the total land mass of the 

944
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:06,720
UK, being needed to deliver net 
0 biodiversity and development 

945
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:11,360
objectives by 2050. 
So we're about to chime in with 

946
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:12,640
it. 
Well, I'm just going to ask you.

947
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,520
Charles, with this few security 
agenda, how does that square 

948
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,440
with paying farmers not to grow 
food in the rewilding schemes 

949
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,000
that the government has been 
undertaking for, what, the last 

950
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,200
decade? 
How do those two things well, 

951
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,840
Patrick? 
I mean, neither you nor I works 

952
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,880
for the government, so we 
couldn't possibly comprehend 

953
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,400
such a thing. 
Exactly. 

954
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,320
This is the central question. 
And, and, and to qualify exactly

955
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,360
what you're asking and what 
people will be thinking that 

956
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,640
what's called the utilised 
agricultural area in the UK is 

957
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:45,280
just under 17,000,000 hectares. 
And so the croppable, what's 

958
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:49,360
described as the croppable area 
of that is around 6,000,000 

959
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:50,720
hectares. 
I've just said that confirmed by

960
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:56,160
Defra this morning and the area 
covered by arable crops from 

961
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:56,560
last. 
Year's. 

962
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,840
Statistics is not quite as large
as the Royal Society is 

963
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,640
suggesting. 
And don't forget that the the 

964
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,800
word they used was additional. 
So basically what they're saying

965
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,000
is that there will be were this 
to be rolled out and were 

966
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,040
croppable area to be used, which
I know is a is a hypothetical 

967
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,360
that would leave precisely no 
land left upon which to produce 

968
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,040
crops in the way that they are 
now. 

969
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:22,880
Now I don't mean that to to 
sound alarmist of course, but of

970
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,240
course worth pointing out also 
that Defra has delayed the 

971
00:55:25,240 --> 00:55:28,160
publication of this year's 
statistics on land use. 

972
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,080
But last year there was a 107% 
increase in uncropped arable 

973
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:36,000
land as a direct result of the 
unlimited offering from the 

974
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,240
sustainable farming incentive. 
So it could well turn out to be 

975
00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:42,760
the case that a lot less land is
actually in production this 

976
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,640
year. 
Now the the answer for the 

977
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,800
countryside as far as the 
government appears to be 

978
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,480
concerned is to destroy it. 
And to pick out one example, 

979
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,000
we'll look at the way in which 
lithium battery technology has 

980
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,560
been deployed across the 
country. 

981
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,960
This is the mapping from 
Department of Energy Security 

982
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,520
and Net Zero. 
And first, we're looking at the 

983
00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:08,000
figures as they were from 1990, 
with no developments in 

984
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,800
existence now. 
They're deemed hazardous by 

985
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,000
virtue of the fact they're 
unproven, and in the event of 

986
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,400
fire or an explosion, nothing be
done to mitigate, leading to 

987
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,240
real environmental catastrophe. 
But this is what the map now 

988
00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:24,440
looks like today, and indeed the
last image includes the proposed

989
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,360
sites. 
If you're unable to see the 

990
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,760
screen, I've got a map of the UK
with hotspots shown all over the

991
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,640
place, with only exceptions 
really for Mid Wales, the 

992
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,480
Highlands of Scotland and the 
Pennine area. 

993
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:40,320
So to reinforce the point about 
the sheer recklessness of doing 

994
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,200
this, I would point to the 
recent statement from Mattson 

995
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,480
Shipping at Large Logistics 
Company based in Hawaii, which 

996
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,960
has said in a statement that due
to increasing concern for the 

997
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,360
safety of transporting vehicles 
powered by large lithium ion 

998
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:59,960
batteries, Matson is suspending 
acceptance of used or new 

999
00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:03,760
electric vehicles and plug in 
hybrid vehicles for transport 

1000
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,000
aboard its vessels. 
That's the end of the quote from

1001
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,360
that statement. 
I would say this really can't be

1002
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,320
brushed off. 
It's, it's not a conspiracy 

1003
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,800
theory. 
And this is at a time when, as 

1004
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,800
reported on Wednesday, the 
government is now spending your 

1005
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:22,040
money to subsidise the purchase 
of those very vehicles. 

1006
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,280
So there's loads more to go into
in terms of detail. 

1007
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,840
And of course, we've set it 
alongside the NHS statistics, 

1008
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:34,760
sorry the ONS statistics that 
that nearly 7000 farming 

1009
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,560
businesses reported to have 
closed down in, in the the year 

1010
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,400
that we're currently in and on 
that blue. 

1011
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,280
Tongue issue. 
I was speaking with an organic 

1012
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:46,680
farmer local in Devon that 
specializes in livestock and 

1013
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,720
they try to stay organic. 
But if, if, if the government 

1014
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,560
says there's blue tongue in the 
area, they have to vaccinate 

1015
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,960
their animals. 
Otherwise they get the risk of 

1016
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,400
being shut down. 
Exactly. 

1017
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,400
So that's what's actually 
happening behind the scenes. 

1018
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,440
So even though they want to stay
organic and they don't vaccinate

1019
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:07,360
their animals, the blue tongue 
scare has has opened the door 

1020
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,600
for government to lean on. 
And obviously I don't want to 

1021
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,600
say the name of the the farmer, 
but this is the conversation 

1022
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,400
that's that's happening on the 
countryside. 

1023
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,640
No, the pressure is intense. 
And, and it is in effect, 

1024
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,600
they're, they're rolling out now
exactly what they tried to do 

1025
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,080
with human beings during the 
COVID period, which was to say 

1026
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,360
that there can be free movement 
on the condition that everybody 

1027
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,120
has received a pharmaceutical 
product. 

1028
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,280
And it's exactly what they've 
done. 

1029
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,840
So the the blue tongue 
restriction zone has been 

1030
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,200
expanded to cover the whole of 
the UK, which means that free 

1031
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,160
movement has in effect been 
granted. 

1032
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:40,960
But under that that those very 
conditions, you're absolutely 

1033
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,920
right. 
Now, what I would say in terms 

1034
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:47,520
of, as a member of the audience,
your relationship and with 

1035
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:51,160
regard to food and all the rest 
of it, is that the farming 

1036
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,880
section on the UK column website
is absolutely full of interviews

1037
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,840
with people who have a vision, 
but that's founded on reality 

1038
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,480
and a way to achieve of what the
government pretends to be doing,

1039
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,520
but without destroying anything 
in the process. 

1040
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,680
So that concludes the food sort 
of report for today. 

1041
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:12,040
And we're now going to go back 
to Mark because you're going to 

1042
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,920
tell us about what's been going 
on in terms of mass media power 

1043
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,160
and sort of further 
consolidation and how that 

1044
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,400
presents a threat to all the 
smaller players. 

1045
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:27,400
Yes, time is tight, so I might 
make this kind of a cliffhanger,

1046
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:32,800
but Sun Valley, ID each year is 
where the Bilderberg Junior, you

1047
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:37,280
might say confab, takes place. 
I have a slide from one of the 

1048
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:41,040
more gossipy news organizations.
In fact, the gossip news 

1049
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,600
organizations provide the main 
coverage and ironically, often 

1050
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:49,840
do a better job than what any 
mainstream media coverage might.

1051
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:54,320
Come along this one from 
deadline dated July 9th, right 

1052
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,040
when Sun Valley was taking 
place. 

1053
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,080
Touching down in Sun Valley. 
Can moguls find answers to 

1054
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,080
media's pressing questions amid 
the Ponderosa Pines? 

1055
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,360
It shows Warner Brothers 
discoveries, David Zasloff and 

1056
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,200
Disney's Bob Iger. 
Disney owns ABC, of course. 

1057
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:11,320
They're arriving there now. 
What's interesting is in the 

1058
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,320
next slide. 
And like I say, I'll probably 

1059
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,600
have kind of a cliffhanger that 
we can talk about in in extra. 

1060
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:23,200
But what happened at Sun Valley 
2025 by Fast Company and another

1061
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:27,320
sort of gossip rag A14 July as 
this thing was really kicking 

1062
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:31,520
into into high gear. 
Likely acquisition of the Free 

1063
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:36,040
Press, an online media source by
Skydance Media and David 

1064
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:41,760
Ellison, who's Skydance's CEO 
David Ellison and yes, he is the

1065
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:47,000
son of Oracle's Larry Ellison. 
He attended Sun Valley along 

1066
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:51,040
alongside Miss Barry Weiss. 
That's the lady Miss Barry Weiss

1067
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,520
who's a center left pro Israel 
Free Press Co founder. 

1068
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,480
But the New York Times learned 
that if Skydance purchases the 

1069
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:04,360
Free Press, and Skydance wants 
to purchase Paramount, which 

1070
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,400
owns CBS in in a huge deal, $8 
billion. 

1071
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,160
So there's two purchases going 
on. 

1072
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:13,800
And yet the Times is saying that
if Skydance purchases the Free 

1073
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:19,200
Press as well as Paramount, then
Miss Weiss could take a major 

1074
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,920
role in shaping the CBS News 
editorial direction. 

1075
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,000
And she's very pro Israel, very 
interesting there. 

1076
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,440
So that's some of the goings on 
that. 

1077
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,080
There's another kind of juicy 
item. 

1078
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,760
I'll save that for extra in the 
interest of time by having to do

1079
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:38,520
with more details about Skydance
buying Paramount, which on CBS 

1080
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,120
and some of the machinations 
there. 

1081
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:45,000
So that should do for now. 
Super thanks very much Mark and 

1082
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,560
a rare cliffhanger there for the
UK column audience. 

1083
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,520
So look forward to that an extra
now we're just going to close 

1084
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,760
out the programme by looking at 
what's going on in the civil 

1085
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,600
service because the BBC have 
announced that they are going to

1086
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,200
be looking at working class 
people for interns. 

1087
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,880
However exactly the BBC or when 
do the civil service describe 

1088
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,040
such thing. 
This seems to come from the 2016

1089
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,160
document socio economic 
diversity in the fast stream. 

1090
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,680
So I thought we would go to a 
place where we can wind the 

1091
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,280
clock back a little bit as to 
exactly what the the purpose of 

1092
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,560
a civil servant really is or 
should be. 

1093
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:21,800
Makes me feel rather. 
Downcast. 

1094
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,760
If it's our job to carry out 
government policies, shouldn't 

1095
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,320
we believe in them? 
What an extraordinary idea. 

1096
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,040
Why? 
Bernard. 

1097
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:37,040
I have served 11 governments in 
the past 30 years. 

1098
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,480
If I believed in all their 
policies, I would have been 

1099
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,240
passionately committed to 
keeping out of the common market

1100
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,840
and passionately committed to 
going into it. 

1101
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,640
I would have been utterly 
convinced of the rightness of 

1102
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:52,320
nationalizing steel and of 
denationalizing it and 

1103
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,560
renationalizing it and capital 
punishment. 

1104
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,760
I'd have been a fervent 
retentionist and an ardent 

1105
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,760
abolitionist. 
I would have been a Keynesian 

1106
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,400
and a Friedmanite, a grammar 
school preserver and destroyer, 

1107
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:08,200
A nationalization freak and a 
privatization maniac. 

1108
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,400
But above all, I would be in a 
stark staring, raving 

1109
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:17,200
schizophrenic. 
So I don't know that it 

1110
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,760
necessarily matters which socio 
economic group you believe you 

1111
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,720
belong to. 
But that's a good note to end 

1112
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:24,320
on. 
I think. 

1113
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:29,000
So very Many thanks to Mark and 
to Mike for joining us on the 

1114
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,160
live link and indeed for Patrick
joining me in the studio. 

1115
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,120
Thanks very much. 
And please do make sure that you

1116
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,000
spend the weekend thinking about
getting your ticket for, first 

1117
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:43,000
of all, Hope Freedom as well as 
the UK column event in York. 

1118
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,000
And indeed, don't forget that 
the German Warfare Banter 

1119
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,880
session goes out at 7:00 
tonight. 

1120
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,160
If you are a member, do join us 
in a few minutes for extra. 

1121
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,920
If you're not, please consider 
joining us as a member. 

1122
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,040
Otherwise, hope you have a 
lovely weekend and we look 

1123
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,360
forward to seeing you on Monday 
for the news programme at 1:00. 

1124
01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:00,040
Bye bye.