Good afternoon, today is Monday the 8th of December 2025, just
after 1:00. Welcome to UK column News.
I'm your host Brian Garish, Delighted to have Ben Rubin with
me in the studio. Delighted to be here, Brian.
Thank you. And we're also very pleased to
have Sandy Adams and Diane Rasmussen joining us by video
link. Now, I'm just going to say it's
a cold, wet, somewhat dismal day here in Plymouth.
The news, as always in UK, is fairly heavy.
But we're going to stay with a sense of humour.
And after all, it's supposed to be that wonderful season leading
to Christmas. And we're going to try and keep
a sparkle in our eyes as we discuss some of the horrors
going on in UK Today. We're going to be having a look
really at the Finessi verdict for Nathi, child abuse affecting
thousands of young girls up in Scotland.
But it also interfaces with what the government says it's trying
to do with child protection at the moment.
So there's some interesting nuances there.
Ben's going to be having a look at COVID crimes and Operation
Tala. Essentially this is around
crimes that did take place during COVID and the lockdown,
but now what's coming to light is UK police controlled to make
sure that they toe the government line rather than
investigate crime. Sandy Adams is also going to be
following through with a look at the police.
And this will come in from the angle of devolution and the
increasing power of mayors. And it's also coupled with
courts, with the arrangement of local authorities, where we're
seeing the smaller local authorities being drawn into
these super councils and super cities.
I'm going to be taking a little look at Chat GPTI, asked a
question about the trans agenda and was really surprised about
what AI had to tell me. And we'll be ending the news
today with a look by Diane at the LGBT agenda.
And Ben, you've got some comment to make on left wing policies.
So I think this is going to be pretty interesting news.
Thank you to everybody for joining us wherever you are in
the world. Now, this was the newspaper
article that caught my eye earlier this morning.
It's the Daily Telegraph. The headline is the important
thing. Don't take any notice of the the
man celebrating his Formula One win, I think that was.
But the headline we're interested in is right wingers
branded a danger to children. So once again we can see child
protection powers and organisations coming into the
frame to be used to control what people think.
And of course the inference is that if you think right wing,
you're in trouble. Now on screen we've got the BBC
headline from 2012, the BBC, One of a number of organisations,
including of course the UK column that pointed out the
disgraceful situation where a UKIP couple, a couple that
supported UKIP, had their foster children taken away directly
because of their political views.
So this is the reality of UK so called child protection systems
and organisations are actually being used not to protect the
children, but to clamp down on political, political beliefs and
political support, which is immensely dangerous.
And remember of course that as jury, jury trials are smashed to
pieces under the Leveson Report and Lammy's latest initiatives.
While that's happening, we've got the precedent of Star
Chambers family courts with just a single judge.
So Diane, I'm going to use that as an introduction to your
segment here on for Nathi. The verdict came out a few days
ago. The women really, really
distressed at what the final result was.
Yes, thanks Brian and hello everyone.
It's great to be here today. Yes, I went on to report on this
for the residential school case which UK column has been
covering for a number of years now.
I attended court both on one day of the the witness testimonies
back in October and I attended last week the sentencing
hearing. Just for those of you who may
not be familiar with the case, this has been a residential
school which was an operation of under Glasgow Corporation and
then Strathclyde Regional Council for the years between
1960 and 1991. And the women were abused in
always possible when they were primary school age.
They were from Glasgow and taken up into a very remote area of
Scotland away from their families and held under the
control and the under the state. So they were not in the custody
of their parents at the time, which means that there's
responsibility through Glasgow Corporation for everything that
happened there and now Glasgow City Council.
This teacher, Patricia Robertson or Baxter, was convicted of 18
counts of what they call cruel and a natural treatment at the
High Court, Glasgow, back in October.
And she received her sentencing back in Wednesday last week.
When I was there, and I will just say that the initial
response was shocking. That's the word I can use.
That's more accurate than anything, Nelson.
This is because she only received despite abusing several
girls convicted of 18 different girls in this trial and
obviously many more over 14 years for between ending around
1984, starting in 1969, she had 18 charges of what they called
cruel and natural treatments of these youngsters when they were
primary school age. So I've, I've spoken with three
women immediately following receiving the sentencing
hearing. So I just want to go through
three videos and we can just hear and see what they went
through and how they experienced it.
So first we'd like to speak with Sharon Cruden, who was one of
the interviews that Brian has done previously with her for Not
the Youth Survivors. I'm disgusted.
She never seemed any remorse. She denies everything.
I mean, no, evenly apologise, saying is three years probation.
I mean, what is that? That's nothing.
No, compared to what she's done there, he's running and there's
more out there. It's just ridiculous.
What, what do you think about the how the judge approached it?
Because he seemed to admit and say that her crimes were
terrible and then he gave her from the probation.
I was expecting him to say we're sending you to prison.
Yeah, I thought that trust as well.
Like I just thought he was going to go and her favour like for a
conviction for a sentence, but obviously not.
So I just don't understand that. I don't, I mean, just because
you're age, I mean, she's been she's able to have lived her
life up to now quite normally, whereas all the victims have had
some sort of impact on her life due to her abuse.
So it's just it's not fair. It's just not fair.
So as we've heard from this, this was really actually very
disgusting. I I should clarify that the
sentence was technically three years probation, which means
that she can't go out between, I believe, the hours of 3:00 PM
and midnight. She has to stay at home.
She can't teach children anymore, which is kind of
ridiculous since she's 77 years old and has been retired for
several years. She also has to pay compensation
to the 18 victims, which is 18,000 lbs within the next
couple of months. And the women that I spoke to
who received those who would receive those 1000 lbs said they
don't even want that because to them that was just an absolute
insult. When we talked in the in the
interview with Sharon, we talked about what Gord Colbeck said,
where he was sort of leading up to saying, well, this was, you
know, absolutely terrible what she did to the women speaking
directly to Patricia Robertson, that the girls were badly
treated. This was over several years.
This was very long term abuse. And so we were all expecting as
we LED into it that there was going to be some elements of,
well, maybe she'll get sent to prison, but she didn't get it.
They were saying that it was because she was, it was like her
first conviction. And therefore, they would go a
little bit more lightly based on what they could do.
But then the scope of what was available to them, according to
Judge Lord Colbeck. So let's hear from another lady.
This next one is Carol White. I think it's completely wrong.
I think she should have been sent to prison for NFA
residential schools and prison for those young girls that went.
Let's not give any survivors any hope.
Why? We should have had hope today.
We should have walked out knowing that she got a
conviction. She should be going to prison
right now and she's walking free.
She should be sharing the same oxygen as us.
Three years probation and 1000 LB for each charge.
That's 18,000 lbs. Three years for years of abuse.
Abuse that that that, that that was, that was terrible that the
abuse that we suffered. Of course it was.
She should not be getting away with it.
She should be doing time for that, and she should spend the
rest of her life in prison. I really thought the way the
judge was speaking, that he was about to put her in prison
because he talked about how horrible it was and then he gave
her probation. Yes, the judge spoke about the
impact it had on the the people that were abused by her and what
she'd done to them. And she showed no remorse, no,
no remorse on the social work reports at all.
And yet she's still walking free.
She should not be walking free. Is there not some way that we
can appeal against this or something?
So following what Carol just said in her interview with me,
what happened was, and we found out in the sentencing hearing,
and she said this throughout, that Patricia Robertson herself
did not believe that she did anything wrong.
And she actually blamed the women, saying that they were
trying to gain financially from taking her all the way up into
this trial, which of course, was something that made them,
understandably even more angry than they are where we were.
The third clip that I have here is from Lynn Sheeran.
It's an absolute disgrace. We've waited 50 years for us and
we've waited well in 15 years and it's just been handed a
three year provision and told to pay 18 victims 1000 lbs.
A 1000 lbs is what our innocence cost for being abused, beaten
up, forced credit, sexual abuse, you name it, we went through it
her hands and she walks away. She gets to see her Christmas.
We're family she's sitting with talking whatever while we sit
and ponder there the last 15 years, but we refer we are at
hands of that one. It's an absolute joke and I
don't know what else to say. Just a few fella motion.
I am too. I understand.
I, I, it was amazing to me. It sounded the way he was
talking. The judge was about to put her
into prison but. He couldn't at one point that
she was going to get after school.
Because he talked about how terrible the crimes were and how
awful she was and how she showed no remorse and and then he put
her into probation. Just absolute shocking.
My thoughts on my end, my friend.
Yeah, it's horrible. Now, in addition to this
sentence of probation, something to point out is that she was not
found guilty of any of the most serious charges that were
brought against her. There were 25 charges brought
against her. She was found guilty of 18.
The others were not proven, and these were the sexual abuse
charges. So of course those would have
been the most serious, but those were not proven at the time when
she first received the conviction of these these 18
counts of being guilty. The women were actually very
happy because they felt as though they were receiving
justice and that finally they had been heard and something
would happen. And so, but now, of course, with
the just the probation for abusing girls for 14 or 15 years
over this amount of time and the severity of the abuse, they're
now obviously, as we've just seen in those clips, very angry.
But we will come back to Lynn Sheeran at the end of this
report. What I want to talk about now is
the mainstream media responses to covering this.
So I was sitting in the press area in the courtroom with all
of the mainstream reporters and all of them were there.
Here's one from the BBC saying retired teacher sentence for
abusing girls at residential school.
And what we're seeing here is that we're seeing a lot of
emphasis on just this one teacher.
The reason for that is because she was the one brought to
child, but she's also the only one that they believe is still
alive of the former staff that were responsible, the head
teacher, she's been dead now for a couple of years who was the
last one in control of for Nothing residential school.
And they can't find any of the other teachers or staff and they
believe that they've all passed away.
So this lady at 77 is the last one that they could find.
Gone for some more mainstream headlines.
STV news was was their former teacher guilty of historical
abuse of girls at Fernetti House?
Avoids gaol. This has irritated me constantly
as the main researcher has been doing a lot of the work on what
was going on and and finding out the background of of the
institution. It was called Fernetti
Residential School when they were there, not Fernetti House.
That was the name of the building as originally built
back in the night around 1918. So the issue here was that we
actually could not use the we use this over and over again
ourselves for UK column. But we see for Neffe House over
and over again, which was not correct because that sort of
takes away from the fact that this was in fact a residential
school where they were placed into a residential institution
and that was meant to be their school, even though they didn't
receive any schooling according to the women who remember what
happened when they were there. Here's the next one from all of
the sort of the live Yorkshire live Glasgow live.
We see the similar headlines from this is sort of a
nationwide outlets retired from that teacher dodges gaol for
sadistic abuse of young girl schoolgirls.
So again, what this is doing is it's it's covering up the the
systemic abuse that happened in this place over 31 years,
including at the establishment level.
Some of the previous reporting that has happened for a three UK
column in the past few years has been that there's been
suggestions that we don't have entire evidence of this, but
there seems to be memories of sex parties through the
establishment. Potentially Nicholas Fairbairn,
which is on the UK column website, although you know,
potentially Jimmy Savile who of course did own a house in
Scotland and others. But of course we have no
evidence of this. But the women certainly do you
remember being drugged and taken into these parties and smelling
alcohol and remembering sexual activity from these paedophiles
that may have been there according to the memories that
they have. Here's another one.
Daily Records. Similar thing, evil teacher who
tortured little girls at Fernetti School.
Spirit Gaol once again, we can't we, we're calling this evil.
We can't do anything about the other teachers.
We don't have any coverage of the teachers.
We're just seeing this word evil.
So no one really knows what's going on there beyond this one
woman. So we're placing the blame on
one woman. Daily Record says woman battered
and forced, fed by evil teachers.
There's that word evil again. Slams decision not to send her
to gaol. This is a talking to Sharon
Cruden in this article who we just saw in the interview that I
did with her See again a decision not to gaol evil for
nephew House of or his teacher to be probed by crown.
So now the Crown is saying they're going to do an
investigation into why or whether or not she can be gaoled
to sort of appealing the decision because of the extent
of the abuse according to all of the evidence and according to
the the number of the charges that were or put put that out
there and made available. I would, Brian, do you have any,
any questions for me at this point about what I saw at the
day in the in the two different days I was in courts or about
the sentencing hearing at this point that she would like to
know about? Diana, I don't have direct
questions, but I would like to make a comment.
As I've watched this tragic story unfold, it seems to me
obvious that delay, delay and more delay has been the
technique used by the establishment to draw the thing
out. This to me, seems to be
deliberate. It seems that the investigation,
if there has been a full investigation by Police
Scotland, has in fact been very limited.
And as you've just mentioned, they didn't get their noses into
these reports of much serious sexual abuse of little girls who
were at the Vanethy School. And, and ultimately we've come
out with this very lenient sentence and we've had very
little mainstream reporting. Now, I can't say that this is a
cover up because we just don't have the evidence to put that on
the table. But is it something that comes
into my mind? Deliberate delay, a really weak
investigation by Police Scotland and then you pin everything onto
1 very elderly member of staff who becomes the sole focus of
being a bit cruel to the girls. This to me seems a cynical cover
up by the establishment, but that's just my personal opinion.
No, absolutely Brian. I, I would agree with you there,
considering what I have found in UK column as an organisation has
found in our last few years of research and reporting and
working directly with the women. We know that there is much more
to this story than one elderly woman who you know, was not nice
according to the, the, the charges of the force feeding and
then, you know, sort of the force behaviours.
We're not saying that that was good at all.
And of course, women have horrible memories and lots of
trouble from this, but we know that it was much bigger than
this over 30 / 30 years. I would encourage people to look
at our reporting. We have an entire portion on our
website dedicated to all of the interviews and articles and, and
news reports that we've done for Finetti Residential School over
the past few years. So that link will be in the show
notes to be able to see all of these reports in one place.
And just to say that we have developed a good relationship,
both working on, I would say a friendship with these leaders of
these this group over the years. This was me the night before the
sentencing hearing. This was last Tuesday evening in
Glasgow. I had dinner with Lynn Sheeran
and Sharon Cruden, who we just heard from, who have been two of
the amazing, strong, brave leaders through this group over
the past few years. And I've got to know them as
friends as well as as survivors. And so we had at least we had a
nice meal the evening before. And I just want to end the
segment with the the second half of Lynn Sheeran's interview and
what she had to say about UK column and the work we've been
doing with them. This is definitely not the end.
This is the beginning for us. So the fight only at half and
stronger, so a lot of women. Here, Yeah, there's a lot of
women here. The court was packed.
Anger and emotions. I don't know.
We'll go now and we'll decide what we're going to do next.
And I'll be here with you. UK Callum will always be with
you. We'll be here.
We're. All the support from Ryan,
everybody and and you for making us gentlemen.
And it's just and. We will remain here as long as
you need us. Thank you.
We love you. You.
Too. So very nice thing to to end on
there. We've developed relationships
with these women over the years. It has not been easy for any of
us. But I just want to say just with
anything else that we do through UK column, we will always be
there as long as, as I said, as long as they need us.
And we will never abandoned anyone who comes to us for help,
Brian. And I'm sure you'll agree with
that. If we've got the capacity to do
it, that's something we have to say for our viewers.
But yes, in principle. Thank you for that, Diane.
Well, I've suggested that something was not right in the
investigation of Vanessa. Were the police controlled to go
at the pace they did or do as little as they did?
Perhaps we can look at another operation Teller around COVID
where Ben, I think you've got some real evidence on control of
the police. Well.
Absolutely, yes. And you talk about the, the, the
pace of investigation. Well, it seems the police have
found a new way of dealing with avoiding accountability, which
is just to not investigate at all and to refuse to accept
evidence. And this is referring to some
actual police work that's been done over the past couple of
years now by this gentleman who is a retired police officer,
Mark Sexton. People will probably be familiar
with Mark actually, if you're a viewer of the UK column, if
you're interested in what's happening around COVID issues in
the UK. In June 2021 he notoriously
reported and Nadeem Zahawi, who was then running the vaccine
programme, for misconduct in public office and then six
months later, January 2022, he reported a criminal case to
Hammersmith Police, provided 400 victim, witness and expert and
whistleblower statements relating to vaccine harms caused
by the vaccine programme. He alleged gross negligent
manslaughter and serious misconduct in public office
against a number of political figures.
That was accepted and it was assigned a crime reference
number, importantly, which we had up there on the screen a
moment ago and there was quite a lot of buzz at the time about
the fact that this had got into the system.
People will probably remember that now.
Mark and a team have continued this work.
It is exceptional work and we're going to get into some of what
they've been doing. It's via this organisation, it's
called Ethical Approach. We'll provide a link that you
can go and have a look at their website.
And just a couple of weeks ago, 18th of November, they issued
this letter, public statement relating to what they call
serious constitutional failings undermining the rule of law with
bearing on national security and matters of overwhelming public
interest. There are 5 components to this
and the first one relates to the Hammersmith Crime report and the
crime number and the evidence of proving that that was never
fully investigated in in accordance with statutory
duties. Case in point being that not one
of the victims, witnesses or whistleblowers was contacted at
400 that are in the case file. The second point being that the
the closure of that investigation was itself
unlawful, and that amounts to perverting the course of
justice, misconduct in public office, assisting offenders, and
a bunch of other offences. The Third Point, as we'll come
on to in more detail in a moment, is this issue of
something called Operation Talent and the Spears Directive,
and the fact that a national command structure had been
implemented and was being used to control police activity
across the whole of the UK. And they have overwhelming
evidence, as I see it, to back this up.
And this explains a lot about what we were seeing happening
and the inaction of police on the ground.
And it completely overlaps with Charles's experience as well,
Charles Mallet, and he's written about this and I think he's
going to talk about this later in the week and potentially over
over the coming weeks as well. And this all amounts to what
they described as constitutional collapse essentially.
I mean, you, I think you used the phrase last week, Brian,
that we have no law. And I think that this is more
evidence of that. Last week it was in relation to
the fact that government officials can commit crimes.
Well, here we've got the police won't accept evidence of crimes.
There's the other side to that coin, I guess in some ways.
And what Sexton and ethical approach are demanding is that
the record is set straight. And in particular that this
issue around police not accepting evidence is addressed
because the COVID inquiry has repeatedly confirmed that
criminal conduct falls outside of its remit and that criminal
conduct needs to be reported to the police.
And when people have done that, the evidence has been refused,
right, which is standing in the way of any kind of constructive
investigation happening. All of this was sent to this
mob. So we've got the array of the
top legal apparatus of the country here.
I won't read out all the names, but you can see who we can see
on screen here, Mark Rowley from the Met, Lammy, Richard Hermer,
attorney general for England and Wales.
They received this. It was sent recorded delivery so
that we know that it arrived with them.
And what do you think happened, Brian?
Nothing as well. Nothing.
This it was roundly. Let's get that back on screen.
Ignored. They ignored it completely.
So two weeks later, you gave them a bit of breathing space.
Have a look at this. Come back to us.
No response. So Mark Sexton and team have
issued this second letter, which is the evidence supplemental to
constitutional correspondence issued on the 18th of November.
And essentially the summary of this is that the system now
appears designed not to protect the public from harm, but to
protect the system from the public, which sounds about right
to me. Actually, I think that that's
pretty much. Great quote, spot on.
Yeah, indicative of everything that we talk about on a weekly
basis, and essentially what we're looking at here is the
idea that the police showed no independent professional
curiosity in determining whether serious criminal offences have
been committed in this period of time.
The only consistent tactic used was to shut every report down
and prevent crime numbers for being issued, stop the stuff
from getting into the system. This was all being controlled
centrally by the National Police Chief's Council, something
called Gold Command, which is the top level of gold, silver
and bronze command structure that was put in place around
Operation Tala. And essentially this is not
independent policing, it is policing functioning as an
extension of the executive government establishment,
operating to shield itself. I've got a short clip now of
Mark Sexton introducing the body of evidence.
It's all there. We said we'd make it available.
Here it is. There's no denying it.
It's not conspiracy theory. It's not tin fall hat wearing
lunacy. It's not far right propaganda,
it's not made up. This is all factual, it's all
evidenced. It's their evidence, it's their
replies, it's their FO is, it's their statements that they gave
to the COVID inquiry. It's all of our interaction.
It's fully documented with emails and with videos and
newspaper links. It's undeniable they committed
serious crimes. They prevented the people of the
UK from seeking remedy and redress as victims of crime.
Thousands and thousands of people have been let down.
This is disgusting. It's unlawful, unconstitutional
and they've committed very serious crimes in public office
across the board. We'll provide a link to the full
body of evidence. It is overwhelming, right?
And an incredible piece of work. And I should just say, if we're
going to have a police force in this country, and I think we
probably should, then it needs people like Mark Sexton in it
because this is an extremely comprehensive piece of
investigation. There's loads of evidence, loads
of items. It's all very methodically put
together. There are a couple that jumped
out at me that we're going to show you now.
The first one is this video clip talking, showing police on the
ground refusing to accept evidence under a directive from
someone called Alan Spears. On both occasions we're handing,
we're wanting to have in very serious witness.
Statements. Papers in relation to
vaccinations No, No, No, No, No, no, no, no.
But but more than that. More, more, more than that.
Alan Spears, listen to me. Listen.
Chief Constable Alan Spears has issued instructions to this
Police Service of Scotland that we are not to take any requests
of this matter. We are not to deal with it.
OK. That is the official who's who's
my assistant. Chief Constable Alan Spence.
When can he need to speak to your assistant?
Chief Constable? I've had my instructions from
him. Wait a minute, wait a minute.
Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
One person speaking, Right. Let's make an appointment to
speak to the person that's calling the shots.
So you're not allowed to accept any witness statements.
Phone 101 and ask to speak to Assistant Chief Constable Alan
Spears. When did it?
When? When did it?
When did they make this? January 2022.
He gave that instruction to the whole of Police Scotland.
OK, when this first started. This is witness statements which
Alan Burrell asked me to get right.
That's his names and addresses. You're going to have to wait
until Sergeant Burrell. Can I say this is witness
statements? This is important.
This is, this is witness statements from the COVID-19
inquiry. It's from the COVID-19 inquiry.
Can I say, Ben, just just astonishing and beautiful
because the evidence is there in our faces as what's going on.
I think I am correct in saying that it's the duty of each
individual policeman to investigate crime and therefore
by failing to investigate crime, two police I think I could see
in that video they are both now complicit in the crime because
they failed to take action on their own account.
They were only following orders, Brian.
Yes, and they were following orders from this guy.
Let's get him on screen. So that's assistant chief
council Alan Spears, and that on the right is the Spears
directive, which was issued. This is part of the evidence
file. So this has come from an FOI
request. And this relates to what he
describes as intimidation of staff and volunteers in the
vaccine centres, right? This is how they position it.
And he says that should any officer or member of staff be
approached or contacted by people requesting assistance in
line with any of the above, this supposed intimidation, then
these requests should be rejected.
While we continue to uphold individuals rights to freedom of
expression into process, this must be balanced with the rights
of others, keeping the public safe, preventing crime and
disorder and seeking to minimise disruption.
And he says finally, none of the type of behaviour outlined above
should be considered as protest activity.
So these aren't protests. This is not legitimate protest.
Obviously that would have to relate to BLM or something like
that. If you remember what was going
on at that period of time. Another piece of evidence from
the far was this, which I rather enjoyed.
So this came from an, an initial inquiry from full fact who
actually opened their, their their question to the police
saying I am a journalist at full Fact and I'm getting in touch as
I'm looking into the false claims.
So they've already established that these are false claims.
Apparently they need that to be confirmed.
I'm not sure that's journalism. And then further up the email
train, it's they're confirmed that formally recording numbers
of we have not been formally recording numbers of attempts
and it would appear that the guidance to not record has been
a success. So we've managed to squash this
by not not investigating crimes properly.
This is damning. Absolutely damning.
Full factors now drawn. Into oh absolutely yes, I think
we should probably get in touch with full facts and see what
they think about this might do that after the news this
afternoon. This links by the way, just to
wrap up here directly back into by pure coincidence that the
past two weeks of reporting that I've been doing around this
organisation. Do you remember the Forward
Institute, this sort of common purpose type entity that's
appeared that's overseen by Sir Anthony Saltz, the former exec
chairman of Rothschild and Co. And the CEO of this Forward
Institute is this guy Adam Gradecki, who is a World
Economic Forum global shaper, their Under 30 network and also
as a governor of Arc Academy working for Paul Marshall.
And I spoke last week about Ian Cheshire, his relationship with
Charles the Third, and also the week before that I spoke about
this chat, Martin Hewitt CBE, who was the chair of the
National Police Chiefs Council during 2019 to 2022, I believe
it was when this whole thing was happening.
And you can see a photo of him here back in 2019 at the
National Policing Board. And this was with Bojo back in
the Bojo days. The first meeting of the new
National Policing Board marks the start of a new partnership
between the police and the government.
He was telling the truth. Truth because they are working
in partnership ship, they're not working in order to ensure law
is operative and enforced. No separation of powers
whatsoever, right? And just, oh look, that was just
six months before the whole Covad thing kept kicked off.
I mean, now what a coincidence say, and that guy Hewitt, as I
mentioned just a couple of weeks ago, so he was, he's now running
the UK Border. So since October 24, he's now
the border security commander at the Home Office.
So goodness knows what he's up to over there, what he's
overseeing and what he's doing and not doing importantly.
And just as a final point, the Operation Teller structure
landed with me because I've been reading some stuff over the past
few days about Kabala systems theory and how this is being
used to drive the global transition.
And the structure gold, silver, bronze structure of Operation
Teller led by Martin Hewitt deployed in this instance, maps
perfectly to the cognitive, emotional, behavioural and
decision making action layers of the Kabala system theory
modelling framework. And I wonder if that's a
coincidence too. I'm sure or it's just a
coincidence, Ben, but thank you for that really excellent and
really concerning report. Now, let's bring Sandy Adams in
with the news today. Sandy, welcome.
And you are taking this a stage further because whatever Ben has
shown public about control of the police in order to do the
government's bidding, there's more of this coming under
devolution. Yes, absolutely.
And good afternoon to Brian, Ben and and Diane and indeed
everyone. Yes, I mean over the last few
weeks something quite disturbing has been happening across
England and it hasn't really been picked up much by the
mainstream media. And it's about the local council
elections that have been cancelled and some of them have
been cancelled till 2028, which is a it's unconstitutional, it's
undemocratic. And ministers have announced
that the elections in Greater Essex, Norfolk, Suffolk,
Hampshire, Solent and Sussex and Brighton will be held in 2028
rather than 2026 because they were already put back from 2025
to 2026. So the government argued that
areas need more time to complete the local government
reorganisations before the votes can proceed.
Now, this is because they are completely reengineering the
whole structure of, of governance in the UK.
And what, what they're doing is that they're trying to get ready
for, you know, combined authorities and the, the, the,
the devolved, you know, the whole devolved combined and
unitary authorities, which then turn into mega, which is what,
what, what we're looking at. So basically the, the, you know,
the, the UK devolution to climate aligned local
authorities is what we're looking at and how this is being
done through the, the covenant of Mayors for climate and
energy. And they're reshaping global
governance. So I've got a a slide here from
the the Guardian and oh, can we have the guardians like, yeah,
here we go. And it's, it's really about
well, Richard Tice is there saying that it's it's cancelling
democracy and the Guardian and obviously Richard Tice agree
with that. So, and it is, I mean, we're
we're finding that democracy is literally being tank cancelled.
And this is this is something that we're seeing a lot now.
If I look, if if you look at the, there's two major acts that
galvanised this plan. It's been a very long term plan.
And the first one is the Cities and Communities Act of 2016.
And that that came in. And you, if I've put all these
in the show notes. So do look at them because you
can see clearly how the governance is being structured
and and taken away from Whitehall and given to these
global or metro mayors as they call them.
And the next one is the English Devolution and Community
Empowerment Act of last year, 2025.
So they, yeah, they devolved power from Whitehall to the
regional mayors with, with governance over transport,
housing, planning, net zero infrastructure, energy systems,
but most, most interestingly, police and, and crime, crime
commissioning and fire regulations.
Now, why does this matter? Well, it matters because under,
you know, UK mayors gain strategic power over net zero
and infrastructure, the local governments aligned with global
climate goals. That's the UN and the EU.
And power shifts are happening without direct public consent at
all. There's no written constitution
limits of these changes and no other countries maintain clearer
legal boundaries. And, and, and, you know, we're
the only country that seems to have this oversight.
So other, other countries don't have this.
So I'm, I'm looking at, at the moment the, that there's a, I've
got a slide here from the Association of Police and Crime
Commissioners regarding the transfer of police powers from
Whitehall to the metro mayors. And it's clear that they are
literally handing over the whole of police and crime
commissioning from on our normal government to these metro
mayors. So what we'll see is things like
enforcement of clean air zone, low traffic neighbourhoods
through integrated Transport Police strategy, smart city
policing linked to regional digital and data sets.
Now this is where we we see, you know, behavioural compliance
strategies, you know, nudging and fines, more surveillance and
and this is all tied into a regional policy.
So we've got crowd control as well and protest management
aligned with mayor's climate or development agenda.
Now I've got this some this slide here, which is a map of
the Shire mayors and the metro mayors.
Now I don't know if anybody even knew though they existed, but
and what we need to know is the difference between them.
Because once the the mayor gains these police and crime powers,
policing becomes part of the wider combined authority
ecosystem, which usually includes transport, strategic
planning, all those things and it allows them special powers
over everything. So could we have that map back
again? Sorry, yeah, So the green areas
are the, the, the metro mares and the, the, the purple ones
are the, the shires. Now there's a difference here
because the, the metro mares are the bigger, the bigger cities.
I think we're we're looking at places like Manchester and the,
the, the rural areas are lagging behind a bit.
They've still got authority power through their councils.
So what what you've got really is this 2 tier system which
eventually the the rural areas will be catching up by by 2035.
They want to absorb the rural areas into the metro mares
system. So nobody gets away with
anything. But it's done very gradually.
It's a whole Fabian gradualism thing and it's been going on for
such a long time now before 2016.
So, so I just want to look now at the Mayors for Climate and
Energy, the Global Covenant of Mayors for Climate and Energy.
Now this, this is where it's all coming from and the C40 cities,
but I'll get on to the C40 cities later.
The Global Covenant of Mayors for Climate and Energy was
formed in 2016 by merging the Compact of Mayors and the
European Union's Covenant of Mayors.
It's a worldwide coalition of, of city leaders committed to
tackling climate change by pledging to reduce greenhouse
and gas emissions. And and the initiative
highlights the role of cities in climate action.
So really it's, it's it, it was launched in 2014 by Ban Ki Moon
and Michael Bloomberg, the former mayor of New York.
And it, it unites city mayor, mayor networks such as C40
cities, which is the climate leadership group, Italy and uh,
the United Cities and the local governments and the UN habitat.
Now over 12,500 cities and local governments from 144 countries
are involved in this, representing more than 1 billion
people and they've they've committed to this compact goals.
Now Italy is interesting, it's the International Committee of
Local and Environmental Initiatives and it was created
after the Earth Summit in 1992 to bring Agenda 21, which is now
Agenda 2030 from global to local.
And it was brought into every single town council in the UK
just after the Earth Summit in 1992.
And that is why we've got all these climate policies.
So it's all been a long term plan now.
So the Global Covenant came out of the C40 cities.
Now let's have a look at the C40 cities.
They are the climate Leadership group.
It's a network of nearly 100 major cities committed to
addressing climate change and advancing the goals of the UNS
Agenda 2030 Paris Agreement. So it brings together mayors and
city leaders to collaborate on cutting urban emissions.
Now, this is all heavily backed by, you know, the Bloomberg
Philanthropies, the World Bank, they're all involved.
Italy, the World Economic Forum, the UN bodies and the C40 cities
pledges to implement policies that align with global targets,
climate targets. Now this is the timeline that
they have for, for this devolution.
By 2028, England mostly operated by 10 to 15 minute powerful
metro mayors. And by 20-30, the raining
countries are folded into the, the city region structure.
So the, the, the, yeah, first of all, you get the metro mayors
and then the, the, the Shire mayors, as they call them, will
be suddenly folded into them over, over a / a period of time
between 2030 and 2035. And the traditional, you know,
it, it, the traditional district model becomes redundant.
So it's, it's either, you know, symbolic or it's phased out in
and this, uh, this will effectively end the, the Shire
government system. So everybody will be under
these, these, uh, these mayors. Now you know, this is, this is
really worrying because what it does really, and it will
inevitably result not only in convergence of digital mapping
and all the things that we don't want and control of the
population. Umm, it'll also double down on
Euler's, umm, fines, umm, surveillance.
We've got another site, another side surveillance and the
banning of autonomous forms of heating like wood burning
stoves, CO2 taxing, retrofitting and ultimately climate
lockdowns. So we, we've really got to, but
look at this for what it is. I mean, this is all being
implemented. It's, it's, it's not local
empowerment. It's the mechanism that the UN
uses to implement Agenda 2030 and the city at city region
level, bypassing national parliaments.
And it fulfils all these goals, you know, the 17 goals,
particularly SGD 11161713789. So a lot of the goals.
Now why does this matter? Because the UK mayor is going to
strategic power over net zero infrastructure, local
governments aligned with global climate goals, um, from the EU
and the EU, and power shifts are happening without direct public
consent. There's no written constitution
limits to these changes and other countries maintain clearer
legal boundaries and oversight than we do.
So this is, this is what we're seeing.
We're seeing this overreach really in policing police powers
because as soon as we let go of Westminster and these police
have, these mayors have control over policing, we've, we've lost
democracy completely. So.
Sandy, thank. Thank you very much.
And amazing how that dovetails in with what you were taking us
through. Ben, a couple of comments that
occurred in our chat box while you were talking, Sandy.
One person said one mayor to to rule them all and the other one
was talking about fiefdoms. And this of course is exactly
what it is, a fiefdom under these all powerful mayors.
And the important thing which you've identified is this is of
course is not UK policy. This is coming in from the
global governance system, the UN and the powers above,
particularly the financial powers.
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of AI, something that I regard as very dangerous, but I'm also
extremely sceptical about. Of course, it advertises itself
as an AI revolution, but I think we should be aware of that AI
revolution. And I just wanted to share with
you today very quickly a little bit about my relationship with
ChatGPT when I asked a question about the trans agenda, because
it appeared that AI had great difficulty coping with what was
really a simple question. Because straight away, ChatGPT
hit me with there's no evidence of any transgender agenda
created by a person, group or organisation.
The phrase is not a factual scholarly term and it basically
laid into me for daring to ask about an agenda.
Now the word agenda in my head was a very simple one.
I wanted to know what was happening and what the agenda
was. But this led to some pretty
interesting discussion by the so called intelligence system.
So it began to say what it regarded as true.
Transgender identities have existed across cultures and
throughout history. And then it got on to the fact
that apparently it's not true. What is not true is that there
is a central creator or a mastermind or a coordinated
agenda trying to impose transgender identities.
Now, I rapidly it challenged ChatGPT on this because it had
told me in an earlier communication that data on the
trans agenda really only went back to about 2002, and before
that very little existed. So when I challenged the AI
system on how it could make these claims when there was no
previous data, it suddenly started to get a bit wobbly and
it told me to my I'm going to say to light, you're right, my
initial reaction was biassed. ChatGPT here reacting and
finally coming out and saying that it's initial reaction was
biassed because it is programmed to trigger on language patterns
and it doesn't know the intent of a person actually asking
questions. So you're really seeing
weaknesses of this beast system and it says, and you are correct
it what what ChatGPT did happened without knowing
anything about my individual views, all my intended meaning
in asking the question. So this is supposed to be an
intelligent system, but what can we discover?
Well, first of all, it tried to wiggle out by telling me I'd
asked the wrong question. And it then posted really what I
should have said, which is I should have used the word policy
because it regarded a gender as agenda as having just two meet
the meanings. If I can bring you down here,
neutral by a policy direction agenda or a conspiratorial
agenda, a plot. And this is where the
programming of this piece is showing weaknesses straight on.
But this was the beauty. It eventually admitted to me
that it can show cultural and institutional biases.
And this has come about due to it's training data, it's
reinforcement learning examples, the assumptions of my creators,
the AI creators safety rules. And here it starts talking about
bias towards avoiding conspiratorial interpretations,
bias towards certain respectful language norms, bias towards
institutional consensus, bias towards risk adverse
interpretations of controversial topics.
So the idea that this AI system is not biassed, it is happy to
tell me itself that indeed it is fully biassed and I'll just run
through these last slides very quickly.
But it then attempted to get the moral high ground by saying, let
me answer your question directly, factually and without
spin. But it had already put spin on
the whole dialogue it was having with me.
And when I delved into who had actually who had programmed chat
HGPT in order to have the bias, it was very reluctant to tell me
it. It talked about privately run
research lab and I needed to put a lot of pressure on this system
in order to get it to actually tell me who the real people were
behind it. And it finally listed the
founders and with more pressure, it was happy to tell me where
the money came from. And with more pressure, it again
stressed that it could not claim that it's programming was free
of bias. And this is the the two
arguments here. You're right, I cannot know the
private intentions, beliefs were in the thoughts of the people
who built or trained me. Beg your pardon, Let's just pop
back here. And finally, it says, therefore
I cannot claim my programming is perfectly free of bias.
So that's the system telling you itself.
Contrast that report. I'm sorry.
Let's just follow through again here with this report by BBC
Sports. Now, this was about nastiness in
social media causing problems for Manchester United.
And the manager, Ruben Amorim, said he'd had so much hate on
social media, he'd have to sort of take refuge by not watching
any of it at all. He also says he doesn't watch
the news. And I think he's talking about
the BBC News. But if we pop that one back on
screen, buried in the BBC article was a little comment
here. It says the analysis in BBC's
investigation was conducted with data science company Signify.
Now Signify, I don't think is a data science company.
It's another AI company. And I think it's reasonable to
say we can assume it might be as biassed as we've seen with
ChatGPT. So here's what it has to Signify
has to say about themselves. It's about issues, not
individuals. But this one's for you, Ben.
In particular, our mission for Signify is to show how AI and
big data can build social empathy and inspire better
products and policies. So this is using AI in order to
skew people's beliefs and opinions, to reframe them, to
follow the very governmental biases that ChatGPT has has
declared now fully has declared to the public at large.
A lot more to talk about on that.
And we'll deal with some more in UK column Extra.
So, and let's just bring you in here because I asked about the
trans agenda, which is definitely real.
You've got a little bit to say on LGBT matters.
Yeah, Thanks, Brian. I, I just thought this was an
interesting thing to look at. I thank you to this UK column
supporter who sent me this article from Zero Hedge last
week that provided links to this report, which is through the
group defending education, which is it has.
We've been doing a lot of work over in America, although it's
the same agenda, trans agenda, all of the agendas are the same
pretty much between the two countries when it comes to
pushing things like critical race theory, the trans ideology
and diversity, equity inclusion. So this organisation produced
this set of handouts that is being distributed through the
National Education Association, which is the largest union in
America for educators. And this has a range of things,
including a pronouns list, which we see here on the screen.
It's only got three sets of pronouns, which is actually a
very small number if you look at most trans ideology documents
and sort of showing school teachers what they should be
familiar with, what they should be able to be using.
One set of pronouns could be she, they could be he, they
could be Z Zim SER. And I think, you know, if
there's, you know, dozens of genders, I think 72 or whatever
number they come up with, they all have different sets of
pronouns. It's actually quite restrictive
based on some things. But when we look further into
the handout, which I took some more time to look at, the entire
set of training material, looked at a range of things that the
title of the report is called Advancing LGBTQ plus plus
Justice and Transgender Advocacy.
So we're seeing here they're pushing this trans ideology,
which ChatGPT apparently seems to struggle with.
According to Brian's investigation, this was 58 pages
of looking at the trans ideology, the the so called
justice, which, you know, considering what I've been doing
with the Fernetti survivors and other abuse survivors, it
actually seems to be a very concerning to me.
So, so that for those of us who have experienced abuse in in our
past, regardless of who you are, what kind of abuse it is, that
seems to be, as we've seen with Patricia Robertson, not
necessarily as important as making sure that we're using the
right pronouns for people who somehow believe that they are
able to change from male to female or binary or, you know,
to male or whatever they think they want to be doing.
So some of the things also that was included in addition to this
pronoun guide was some information from Cornell
University. They have a transgender guide to
transitioning and gender affirmation in the workplace,
telling people how to transition at work, explaining A
transgender inclusive health insurance plan, which is
concerning in America because most people can't even get basic
things done. Gender friendly toilets, voice
and communication modification programme.
So if you need to sound more non binary or more masculine or
feminine. They talk about HR guidelines,
so our favourite department, human resources workplace
transition plan and how HR representatives and supervisors
can work with a number of staff to transition as they feel
comfortable to do so within the workplace.
Which is interesting considering that people like David Cartland
and myself and many others have been cancelled by the people
related to HR departments and to because we were not holding the
right views essentially. Which is what happened to me and
to many others who are experiencing this in academia
and other places in the moment. They have a level of expressions
of oppression which talks about different types of oppression
and and expressions of oppression exercise that staff
have to do when they attend this training.
Looking at different types of bias and what we need to do to
achieve social justice through critical race theory, which is
essentially the destruction of what exists currently in
society. There is also a report from the
Transgender Law Centre that is written for transgender youth,
so to speak, called Building Our Choir with a Race, Class, Gender
Narrative, which says, for example, along many other
things, we should say our genders or genders be plural
instead of just gender singular because pluralizing genders
enables greater agreement with our worldview and helps activate
more expansive attitudes towards our genders plural again and
transgender people. So I just want to highlight this
because of what you were doing, Brian, but also just to show the
sort of the hypocrisy that's going on in the world right now.
That we're supposed to make these people who believe they
can somehow magically change their sex despite Supreme Court
rulings and so on. But then we see true abuse
survivors who have been through horrible crimes in their lives,
and they cannot get justice. But we're supposed to provide
justice just for the people who decide that they are able to do
this and want to do this. Brian.
Diane absolutely. And we can be sure that the AI
trainers, the people creating these AI systems are absolutely
going to be introducing that bias into the systems in order
to keep pushing this agenda. And as we've seen on the BBC
today from Australia, bans on children using social media.
And of course, whilst there is some terrible things on social
media which children shouldn't really be seeing, of course what
we can now see coming through the pipeline is stop the
children having a different source of learning to the
mainstream agenda. And they will then become young
adults with absolutely no concept that there's any other
form of fact or truth but that which comes from governments, AI
systems and the BBC's. We'll do more on this in extra,
but let's finish with a little bit of a wry look Ben at some,
well, what is it? Is it the loony left or
something different? Yes, well, we've talked a bit
about Zack Polanski recently, the new leader of the Green
Party, but he's not the only left wing firebrand on the
block. Let's have a listen to Zara
Sultana talking about nationalising the entire
economy. The status quo in this country
has is broken. We are the second most unequal
country in the OECD, second to the US.
We have rampant inequality. So things have to fundamentally
change. And when I talk about
nationalising our economy, I'm talking about the commanding
heights of our economy. I'm talking about the utilities,
energy, rail, buses, telecoms, mail, which are wildly popular
with the public. But we also have to look at
other forms of democratic ownership in our economy.
That means workers cooperatives, that means community community
Land Trust, that means public banking, that means a national
welfare, a wealth fund that workers and our communities
control. So do you mean that, you know, a
corner shop or a hairdresser is gonna be run by a workers
committee? I'm just trying to understand
actually. Actually, if you look at
polling, the British public actually support a system where
workers make the decisions in their workplaces.
So when you've got when you've got a coffee shop and you've got
a small workplace, a democratic form of ownership of that is a
workers cooperative. Well, workers own the shares in
that company. They have better terms and
conditions. The profits are shared amongst
the workers. And that is a form of democratic
ownership that does very well across the world, including in
the UK. And would that be something that
businesses had to become? Would that be mandatory?
Well, this, these are conversations that we should
have about what forms of ownership we should have in our
economy. And right now we don't have very
many democratic forms of ownership.
When we look across Latin America, you've got workers
cooperatives, you've got community Land Trust, you've got
all of these different forms. We need to have conversations
about how we can democratise our economy, but also.
Might be an option. It has to be something that we
have a conversation about. Obviously the party does not
have policies yet, but it's important that we articulate a
different vision of society. Well, there you have it.
Democratise the economy. But what does that mean?
We'll talk about this in extra Yes, You've got another one,
haven't you? Let's say we.
Do Yeah, well, we'll, we'll talk about a lot more in extra.
I think the, the main thing for me with these with her this
issue generally is that she's half right and half wrong.
What she's right about is that there are gross levels of
inequality and there are things that need to be changed in the
economic system. What she's wrong about is what
we should actually do about it. Big question with Sultana and
your party, which she's a Co founder of is can we possibly
trust these people? I mean, she's done some
extraordinarily disruptive and and out of control things over
the past few months in terms as, as, as relates to the management
of your party, her party. But also we then end up seeing
things like this coming from the your party conference over the
past couple of weeks. Have a look at this.
My name is Claire. I'm from Dartford.
Your party? I'm also a member of Socialist
Alternative. I want to speak for the name Our
party, not because I think it's a particularly good name, but
because I think this should be our party.
And the reason why we're having this agenda, this debate now on
the agenda when we've been given four options, none of which were
particularly popular as far as I could see, is because there were
amendments that were submitted by hundreds of members all
around the country. We talk about the issues which
people on this conference floor wanted debated, amendments which
have been silenced because they call into question an unelected
clique who have been brought in and who have been doing damage
to this party. Earlier we heard discussion
about the potential damage that the red scare of left wing
groups of the people who have been on the streets build front.
So Can you imagine that? So they're, they're literally so
she's dissenting, they pull the plug, cut the feed.
She's gone. She's gone, but Can you imagine
trying to run a business like that?
We'll talk about this in UK column Extra.
We must end today's news. I think it's been a really
important news. Something very, very dark and
controlling is installing itself in UK.
We need to see it, we need to identify it, we need to call it
out, we need to keep a sense of humour and we need to ridicule
these people because ridicule is a powerful weapon.
We're going to end today's news there for your Member of UK
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