1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,600 I'll start by telling you my story. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:14,200 So let me tell you a story about a young man who went to the big 3 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:19,240 city to as young people do to try to make it in the big city 4 00:00:19,240 --> 00:00:22,600 professionally in their career and so forth. 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,040 And I, that was that young man was me. 6 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:34,920 So spoiler alert, but I, I had a really unique job. 7 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,800 I I had AI, had a job where I interacted with every single 8 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:45,560 level of society, every class, every nationality. 9 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:56,080 From kitchen Porter to the dust man to the plumber, to middle 10 00:00:56,080 --> 00:01:05,880 management, to corporate officers, to CEOs, to the 11 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,560 chairman of the biggest investment banks in the world, 12 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,600 to government officials, politicians, celebrities and 13 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:19,200 their entourages. Even the royal family and quote 14 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:24,640 global elites is a very unique job and surprisingly accessible. 15 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,400 And it didn't pay extremely well, but it paid well if you 16 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:34,000 worked enough hours. So I, I, I observed a lot. 17 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,200 I watched a lot. The entry point was through the 18 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,240 hospitality industry and the events industry. 19 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,400 So you kind of a family on the wall for everybody in society. 20 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,480 And the more I watched and observed, the more I got very 21 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:54,160 interested in how the machinery of society and the world and 22 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:59,800 politics fascinated how commerce, industry, banking, how 23 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,200 this all works, how this this thing works, this machinery 24 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:08,000 works, and everybody playing this role in this thing we call 25 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,720 society and the world. But I wasn't really politically 26 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,800 active. I read a lot. 27 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,040 I read a lot of newspapers. Every week I'd buy a big stack 28 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,400 by every single newspaper, from the News of the World to the 29 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,360 Guardian, Telegraph, everything in between, there's a big stack. 30 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,520 I spent most Saturdays and Sundays going through it over 31 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,560 coffee. And then a couple of significant 32 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:40,440 global events took place, which had a profound impact on me in 33 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:45,720 the sense that I they pulled me in to become more active. 34 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,960 I was pulled off the sidelines of watching what was going on 35 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,520 and being informed. One of them was the second 36 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,520 intifada in Palestine. That was late 90s. 37 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,280 And before that, my knowledge of Israel and Palestine, the Middle 38 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,040 East was, was murky at best, typical American worldview 39 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,880 basically. And then 9/11 happened. 40 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:13,360 And that was also interesting because I was, I was an American 41 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,760 in London. So I was removed for I was out 42 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,840 of the, the, the blast zone, if you will, Ground Zero, not just 43 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,440 the World Trade Centres, but Ground Zero of the propaganda 44 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,120 and the gravitational pull in America. 45 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,120 In terms of propaganda war, it's powerful. 46 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,360 If those of you who have spent time in that country or been 47 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,760 there during a major war, you know what I'm talking about. 48 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,240 The indoctrination is, is is really powerful and I was 49 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,000 outside of that for 911. So that kind of gave me a little 50 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:48,760 bit of breathing space to look at 911 from a not a safe 51 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,800 distance, but a good enough. This I remember I was, I was, I 52 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,720 was in, I was working in Hanover Square in London. 53 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,720 I was in the the head offices of Conde Nest publications. 54 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:03,360 I just cycled all the way from Fulham, sweaty to get to work on 55 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:08,680 time as I don't, yeah, it was September obviously, but, but I 56 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:13,040 remember watching it on the the screen in one of the meeting 57 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,160 rooms and I was just like, wow, this is incredible. 58 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,720 And there's a lot of events like that. 59 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:24,760 Then the Iraq war happened and that was that. 60 00:04:24,840 --> 00:04:27,960 That more than anything the the Palestinian issue I've been 61 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,560 active on in for 25 years. And it's because of my personal 62 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:36,240 connection with that community. I was living in a place they 63 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,000 called the Gaza Strip. It's like half of North End Road 64 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,280 in Fulham. They called it the Gaza Strip, 65 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:47,080 all Palestinian. And so they were kind of like my 66 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,000 surrogate family became kind of my surrogate family in in 67 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,960 certain ways very welcoming. Even though I was American and 68 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,880 even though my government was bombing the hell out of the 69 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,800 Middle East, it didn't matter. It didn't matter. 70 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,680 But but the Iraq war pulled me off the sidelines. 71 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,760 I became more active and I had a business at the time. 72 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:14,240 So I was able to fund sponsor to help to help produce events, 73 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,640 create art, music campaigns, rallies. 74 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,040 So I was plugged into the anti war movement in a big way, as 75 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:27,560 well as the Palestinian movement, peace movement of so I 76 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,560 spending more time doing activism than I was doing my job 77 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,200 at some point. And I realised that I really 78 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,240 can't be doing this double life. And I started this process of 79 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:45,000 getting out of the rat race. And at that time blogging was 80 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,960 becoming a thing. Remember 2020 O 3-4 and five. 81 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,320 So I started blogging and helping out with documentary 82 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,000 films with people I met on these anti war marches. 83 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,040 And then the, the 2 million or the 1.5 million man March 84 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:04,320 happened in London and the we, we really everybody out there 85 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,200 thought, wow, this is it. We're we are going to turn this 86 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,040 thing around. We're going to send a message to 87 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,160 Tony Blair and George Bush. This is not going to happen 88 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,160 there. Everyone's out there, 89 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,400 Christians, Muslims, Jews, the rabbis were out as well. 90 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,560 Everybody came out, the trade unionists, everybody came out. 91 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,040 Every single nationality class, they're all out there marching 92 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:31,520 to stop the war in Iraq. Multiple marches and what 93 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,440 happened, What happened? It didn't, it didn't stop the 94 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,320 war. And there was a real feeling of 95 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,920 defeat. It was a real loss. 96 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,760 And a lot of people were exasperated by that. 97 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:52,880 But that it was that defeat that motivated me to, to, to step up. 98 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,080 And I realised the power of propaganda. 99 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,520 I realised why did, why did, why wasn't this successful? 100 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,560 Because the the propaganda was so powerful, so powerful that 101 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,440 although we had a certain percentage of the population out 102 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,200 on the street, it didn't really have an effect on the political 103 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,040 class and the majority of the population were indifferent if 104 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,040 not believing the whole WMD hoax. 105 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,960 So a lot of people got motivated from that. 106 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,480 Myself, I realised I needed to be in the counter propaganda 107 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,280 effort. So blogging, journalism, I 108 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:35,720 started a website, I met Brian and Mike at the edge, Edge 109 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,640 Media, Edge TV, it was raise your hand if you remember Edge 110 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:45,080 TV, this was on Sky. It was a a very dangerous and 111 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,880 controversial channel that allowed people to get on they 112 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:55,520 couldn't before. So that's, that's kind of how I 113 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,960 got into I went to art college. I wasn't, I didn't go to 114 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,680 journalism school. I went to art college. 115 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,040 I was an art in design and later I did my masters in 116 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:08,160 international relations as a mature student in my late 40s a 117 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,800 few years ago at Plymouth University. 118 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,720 So the, the, the thing people are asking me here and 119 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,200 constantly is where, what are we doing now? 120 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:27,160 And I think this, this event, other festivals, everything kind 121 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:31,560 of launched out of the COVID lockdown tyranny, if you will. 122 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:35,080 It activated people that weren't red pilled before that weren't 123 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,039 politically active. And I, my personal opinion is 124 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:43,000 we, we won the argument on lockdowns, we won the argument 125 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,040 on vaccines. We, we won the battle, OK, it 126 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:52,240 was a, it was a difficult battle and many people were injured and 127 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,440 suffered during that. But in the end, we won the 128 00:08:55,440 --> 00:09:01,920 argument, politically speaking. But what do you do now when the 129 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,120 crisis is over? And that's the question a lot of 130 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,280 people were asking me last night. 131 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,960 What do you do now? What, how do I, how do I get 132 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,520 active? How do I make a difference? 133 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:16,280 And I think that's an individual conversation everybody has, you 134 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,520 know, do you want to get involved in a web? 135 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,600 Do you want to launch a website? Do you want to get more involved 136 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:24,160 in media? Do you want to be a social media 137 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,120 activist? All of the above. 138 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,440 Great. Do you want to be active in your 139 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,440 community? Do you just want to stick your 140 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,200 middle finger up at the system and give give it some of that 141 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:38,880 punk rock energy and big you know what to the system? 142 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,080 Events like this are an act of protest. 143 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,120 There's many of these festivals. You have the Light newspaper, 144 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,200 you have UK column, What we do. These are all great in your 145 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,320 communities. There's plenty of things that 146 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,040 people can do. Just the just the choices you 147 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:00,440 make are an act of protest or a dissident act. 148 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,960 That's up to everybody to decide how active they want to be. 149 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:09,080 Myself, I had certain skills, I had certain capabilities, so I 150 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,680 just thought I would apply my skills and whatever my skills 151 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:17,320 were at the time that I would apply those to try to somehow 152 00:10:17,560 --> 00:10:21,400 change the conversation, to reclaim the conversation. 153 00:10:22,560 --> 00:10:26,320 And there's no guarantee you're going to be successful. 2 154 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,040 million people out on the streets could not stop the Iraq 155 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:34,120 War. But it's funny, August 2013, 156 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:38,280 there was another war beckoning. It was a war against Syria and 157 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,680 nobody came out on the street. And you know why 'cause Stop the 158 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:46,200 War Coalition was probably some people in that organisation were 159 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,440 in favour of a war on Syria because they wanted to oust 160 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,000 Assad. So they didn't really rally the 161 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,600 troops. They did at the last minute and 162 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,400 I think 20 or 15,000 people showed up at at Downing St. 163 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,560 You remember that August and they put out a fake film on the 164 00:11:01,560 --> 00:11:06,280 BBC called Saving Serious Children right before the vote 165 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:12,000 in Commons to really capture and and manufacture consent for this 166 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,080 war. But something funny happened 167 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,160 before that. A flood of letters hit M PS 168 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:23,360 offices all across the country. And and this created a little 169 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,400 bit of a shockwave in Westminster. 170 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,000 They weren't expecting that the people didn't spell in the 171 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,160 street, but the people who were engaged, directly engaged with 172 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,360 the system and let it let it be known to their representatives 173 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,040 that they were not on board with this. 174 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:42,360 And that vote failed by the slimmest of margins, the the 175 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:47,480 slimmest of margins tiny. And I was shocked. 176 00:11:47,560 --> 00:11:50,240 We, we all thought, I remember, we all thought it was going to 177 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,080 be a slam dunk and America was going to go in right behind him 178 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,880 just like they did with Iraq. And it didn't happen. 179 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,600 So what what happened there is people, I think a collection of 180 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,360 activists, media people, different very motley crew, 181 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,680 somehow got the word out that they needed to get engaged on 182 00:12:08,680 --> 00:12:11,080 this and it made a difference at that time. 183 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,960 And you might say, well, it didn't make a difference because 184 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,880 look what happened this past December and Jolani rolled into 185 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,960 Damascus, black flags flying over Damascus. 186 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:23,640 Maybe so. But you know, you can't. 187 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,560 The war, the war, you have to look at it along an extended 188 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:30,920 timeline. You know, we, the Palestinians 189 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,160 aren't going to win their war in one generation. 190 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,320 They'll probably be fighting that for multiple generations. 191 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,440 So, you know, if we expect that we're always going to get a 192 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,400 result immediately, it might not happen in your lifetime, but I 193 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,680 think it's important that you're engaged. 194 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,840 You're engaged because being engaged says a lot about who you 195 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,240 are and, and what you're doing here. 196 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,840 And what I'm doing here is I want to apply the, the abilities 197 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,600 that God gave me to the best of my ability to try my best to 198 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,480 make the world a better place or about the issues that I care 199 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,200 about. That's, that's my mission. 200 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:12,920 And everybody I think can, can take a cue that they have their 201 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,160 own mission. Whatever your world view is, 202 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,400 everybody has skills and capabilities and everybody in 203 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,240 some way on some level can apply them. 204 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:27,040 And many hands make light work. Many hands make light work. 205 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,920 So that's, that's my idealistic answer. 206 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,520 But me, myself, I'm just a simple a single blade of grass. 207 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:41,960 But as they say in Zen, a single blade of grass can crack a 208 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,800 concrete block. And it does. 209 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:46,880 And there's so many examples of this. 210 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,040 Every single major effort, movement, campaign always 211 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:54,280 started with one person, always with one person, every great 212 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,120 idea with one person. So don't, just don't a lot of 213 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,240 people want to feel disempowered, like, oh, what can 214 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,200 I do? Everybody can do something and 215 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:07,760 the results sometimes take years to manifest, but you have to 216 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,120 start somewhere and you just have to have faith that that 217 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,120 process is universal and it will always, always happen. 218 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:21,960 How we doing on time? How much time has passed? 219 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:29,280 17 passed. SO11 of the issues that people 220 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,560 are concerned about, I think is a potential end game scenario is 221 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,800 the digital ID issue and also digital cash. 222 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,560 This this is a potential end game scenario for obvious 223 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,600 reasons. The CBDC central bank digital 224 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,320 currency that that very close to being implemented during the 225 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,560 COVID crisis, very close had to be delayed. 226 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:55,280 But like so many of these things delayed delaying something is a 227 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:59,480 major victory. Small wars are won with small 228 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:05,480 victories, small battles win wars and to delay the agenda, to 229 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,680 delay the establishment agenda is a is a major victory, 230 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,160 especially if it's being done at a grassroots level. 231 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:18,840 But we're living in a kind of crisis economy where it's it 232 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,600 these these cycles are based on crises. 233 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,320 COVID and lockdown is one of those. 234 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,520 Now the crisis is over, we some people need to refocus. 235 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,320 Some people might not want to be active. 236 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,040 That was the issue that they're passionate about that affected 237 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,560 them directly, the vaccine issue or the people lost their 238 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,240 businesses during COVID. And that's fine, you know, and 239 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,800 some people are still fighting that, still trying to get 240 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,360 justice for people who are vaccine injured. 241 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:53,040 And that's also important. What we do, what I do is maybe 242 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,560 slightly different. My issues are different, my 243 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,240 interests are different, my expertise is different. 244 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:02,880 But it's, you know what, what everyone's doing collectively is 245 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,960 no less valid than even, you know, the biggest geopolitical 246 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,160 stories. Not everybody needs to engage in 247 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,680 these issues. Most things are happening on a 248 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:16,920 local level. But Charles and Mike brought up 249 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,640 a really important point is that the legislation that the 250 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,760 government's putting in is becoming increasingly 251 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,160 authoritarian. And if you look at major 252 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:30,200 dissident events from the 80s till now, the battle of the bean 253 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,760 fields, Stonehenge, perfect example. 254 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,280 Government comes in heavy handed. 255 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,200 It's later proven that they falsified evidence or witness 256 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,360 testimonies. The government has to row it 257 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,040 back. But the legislation gets ramped 258 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,600 up. The Public Orders Act, the 259 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:53,920 criminal justice bill or grieves the minor, the miners, riots, 260 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:59,720 that similar thing, miscarriage of justice, perverting the 261 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:04,200 course of justice on the part of the government, compensations 262 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,640 paid out to protesters who were wrongly imprisoned and so forth 263 00:17:08,839 --> 00:17:11,280 years later. But the legislation gets ramped 264 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,599 up. The other one was a few years 265 00:17:13,599 --> 00:17:18,760 ago, the Kill the bill, police crime, sentencing and courts 266 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,560 bill very much related to the anti fracking movement. 267 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,160 You remember the anti fracking movement? 268 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,599 It seems like a long time ago, but it was just yesterday. 269 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,120 That was a total grassroots effort. 270 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,400 A few people drove that movement nationally. 271 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,040 One of them we knew very well. Ian R Crane. 272 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:42,800 Literally one man in the back of a trailer with a few activists 273 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:47,680 holding holding back the richest man in Britain, the CEO of the 274 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,880 of Ineos. Is it Jim Ratcliffe? 275 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,120 Jim Ratcliffe? So what? 276 00:17:53,120 --> 00:17:57,200 Ian called Gerry activists, people who were retired, who had 277 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,560 all the time in the world to commit. 278 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,560 A literal handful of people stopped the richest man in 279 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,760 Britain from putting drill bits into the ground. 280 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,160 The anti it is one of the most successful grass roots activist 281 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,040 efforts ever. A relative handful of people. 282 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,640 I mean, how is that even possible in this day and age? 283 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,760 But that happened and the government's reaction was to 284 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:24,600 ramp up the legislation to clamp down on freedom of assembly. 285 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,320 The other one is the Palestine action issue, which is really 286 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,600 important. This is the perversion of the 287 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,400 Terrorism Act of 2000 to, to, to lower the bar for what's 288 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,800 considered terrorist activity. And look, I'm not a fan of Just 289 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,800 Stop Oil. I, I don't really agree with the 290 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,880 campaign. It's nonsensical in certain 291 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,160 ways. But some of those activists just 292 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:56,280 got a 44 month sentence, I think for £150 worth of damage to a 293 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,320 frame of some sign. I don't know what it was, but I, 294 00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:03,680 I don't necessarily support that organisation completely, but I 295 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,040 will defend them even though I have nothing in common with them 296 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,200 in terms of my ideological viewpoints. 297 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,720 And on that issue of climate change, for instance, or 298 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,600 electric cars, nothing in common, but I will defend them 299 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,520 to the hilt. And that's the attitude we need 300 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,560 to focus on the rights and not the politics per SE and really 301 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,640 not the ideological issue. But look at what you have in 302 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,480 common and the Palestine action issue, whether you agree with, 303 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,520 as my colleague said before, whether you, whatever your 304 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,400 feeling is with Israel and Palestine, it's either here nor 305 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,680 there. This is a rights issue, It's a 306 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:45,440 basic rights issue. So and the other one is the 307 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,320 immigration on on the back of the immigration crisis. 308 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,840 And I say with the air quotes crisis, are people talking 309 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,760 about, well, a good solution to this will be the digital ID 310 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,080 system, of course. So they have another crisis 311 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,040 being used. This state doesn't care, it 312 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,120 doesn't care about the working class, it doesn't care about the 313 00:20:06,120 --> 00:20:10,120 middle class. It cares about itself and how to 314 00:20:10,120 --> 00:20:13,360 subdue. And, and, and take away rights 315 00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:15,600 incrementally and everything I've just mentioned, every 316 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,240 single major historical event has corresponded with the 317 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,960 withdrawing of certain rights, basic rights that before was 318 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,400 legal is now illegal. It's a pattern, it's undeniable. 319 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,760 So we have a saying in basketball, play the man, not 320 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,000 the ball in defence. Watch your man. 321 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,240 I was always taught watch, watch the watch the waste of your, the 322 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,080 man you're guarding and don't watch the ball and don't pay 323 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,840 attention to ball fakes. Keep your eye on the man. 324 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,400 The man is your rights. The ball is the media is the 325 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,920 divisive emotive issues like immigration. 326 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,520 They want to get us the government love when we're 327 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,120 fighting each other or people are fighting people. 328 00:20:57,120 --> 00:21:00,200 As long as we're not fighting them, as long as we're not 329 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,720 paying attention to Westminster, they, they absolutely love it. 330 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,440 They will. The media will ramp up this 331 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,680 issue and of course they'll be there with the solution and and 332 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,960 many people will welcome that solution, unfortunately. 333 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,960 So that's those are a few things I just want to leave with you. 334 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:24,640 And Charles brought up something interesting about the Holocaust 335 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,520 education. I just have to add that as a 336 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,800 caveat. So in America, just to tell you 337 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,000 where that's headed. So I went to primary school and 338 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,840 junior high school in America in the late 70s, early 80s. 339 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:45,440 And my 13 years old year eight in America, half the year was 340 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,920 spent on the Holocaust and reading and talking about Anne 341 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:54,560 Frank's diary. And I went to a state school and 342 00:21:55,360 --> 00:22:01,520 before that in when I was 9 and 10, we had to learn kibbutz 343 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:07,960 songs in choir, Israeli settler songs in in This is in Boston, 344 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:16,360 MA, very liberal. So that's how most Americans, if 345 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:19,360 you go to most Americans go to state schools, So many Americans 346 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:22,520 will get that mandatory Holocaust education. 347 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,080 This is for the last 50 years. So if you look at American 348 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,400 politics and people talk about the lobby and why is America so 349 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,800 loyal to Israel? The answer is simple because you 350 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,400 learn from a very young age that Israel is our greatest friend 351 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,640 and ally and we must support them no matter what. 352 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,720 So I'll say something controversial. 353 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,600 Now if they want to make Holocaust education mandatory in 354 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,880 British schools, I I'm all for that. 355 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:56,880 However, only if they also make side by side with that, they'll 356 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:01,400 make also mandatory education about Israel's genocide in Gaza. 357 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,600 And then the children will get a real education. 358 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,760 They will see the irony of history and they will really 359 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:14,840 learn the the historic lesson that that lesson that that 360 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,520 society and those children really need to learn. 361 00:23:18,120 --> 00:23:21,120 Now, I'm all for that. I think that would be great, but 362 00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:24,320 not one needs to be both. That's fine. 363 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,120 Or neither. It's either both or it's 364 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:31,120 nothing. But I think that would 365 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,440 definitely change the next generation. 366 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,280 I think they're changed already. But that's that's where I would 367 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:42,600 stand on that. So that's all I had to say today 368 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,760 on that. But I'm open to talking to 369 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,200 people outside the tent as I normally do. 370 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,240 I'm happy to talk. We have a few minutes for AQ and 371 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,160 A Yeah, so we've got a few questions from the audience. 372 00:23:54,520 --> 00:24:03,560 Be happy to. Any questions come on, someone 373 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,800 must have a question. Patrick, just going back to you, 374 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,120 I think that that point on your schooling, it's completely 375 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:13,000 fascinating. And actually it does remind me 376 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,680 to point out that that on the UK column website, Brian has 377 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,640 recently recorded an interview with a British Jewish lady 378 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,320 called Lynn Salzado. And she goes back into her 379 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,520 childhood, which was considerably before that. 380 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,880 But also the the idea of, well, I suppose indoctrination would 381 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,200 be the best word. But do you obviously think about 382 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,120 that in retrospect is fascinating. 383 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,400 Do you remember at the time there being any reaction to the 384 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,840 way it was taught? No, no, we were just kids. 385 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,400 So whatever our teacher tells us is the way the world is. 386 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,160 And that's that. And it was just, it was just 387 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:55,000 another country. And I think possibly our choir 388 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,080 teacher was Jewish. I mean, it's possible. 389 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,040 I think maybe she was. But yeah, we didn't think 390 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,120 anything of it. It's just part of the background 391 00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:08,400 of life growing up in America. Good, well done. 392 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,200 I'm high you said the next generation had changed in. 393 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,040 In what way? And can you give examples? 394 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:21,320 Well, I think, I think it's kind of obvious when you look at 395 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,520 polling and you look at social media activity. 396 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,360 I think it was the former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali 397 00:25:27,360 --> 00:25:31,840 Bennett was pulling his hair out because they spent 125 million 398 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,200 to put the Israeli narrative on social media after October 7th. 399 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,720 And there were more pro Palestinian posts on TikTok and 400 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:45,640 Instagram by a ratio of 16 to 1. And they didn't spend any money. 401 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,840 The the kids didn't spend any money. 402 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,600 They didn't need orders from head office. 403 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,160 But the US and Israel probably collectively have spent, I would 404 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:59,080 say, more than half a billion dollars on, on, on, on seeding 405 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,560 narratives and propaganda. So are you just talk about in 406 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:08,400 relation to Israel or other matters such as CBDC, vaccines, 407 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,400 changes in the law, rights, censorship, etcetera? 408 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:17,800 Well, I think most of what kids will will believe and, and most 409 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,040 people go with what their parents have taught them or 410 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,120 showed them or they'll go by the example of their parents. 411 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:27,280 And if you look at the vaccine numbers for the 2nd and 3rd and 412 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:32,000 4th jabs, it just tails off and flat lines to ridiculously low 413 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,560 level. So that means most parents, even 414 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:39,200 what we call normies, have abandoned the COVID vaccine and 415 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,360 don't believe in it or a very at the very least question it. 416 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,320 And so their children will. If those are the, if that's the 417 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,360 data for adults, I would say at least the reflection in the kids 418 00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:54,880 will be the same. As I said before, we absolutely 419 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,680 won the argument on that. There's no, there's no doubt 420 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,840 about that. The, the polling shows that the 421 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:06,920 the uptake shows that. So I think, yeah, CBD CS more 422 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,320 complicated. That's a good, that's a good 423 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:14,320 conversation. Kids are so enamoured with the 424 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,400 convenience of touch payments and the and all that. 425 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,560 So that's, that's a difficult one because we're from the pre 426 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,320 we, we, I mean, I remember what it was like with, you know, 427 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,960 before mobile phones and, and most, most of us, many of us in 428 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,320 here do. And we know what it was like 429 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,800 before the Internet, you know, before those sort of things. 430 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,160 So kids now, younger kids, they don't know what it's like and 431 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,160 when it was cash only, they don't know what it's like when 432 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,480 there were no mobile phones before text messaging. 433 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,120 That's a, that's a, that's a tricky conversation. 434 00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:50,760 I don't know. It could, it could swing in an 435 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,720 interesting way that we can't predict in terms of the 436 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,360 attitude, but that's certainly something to be very concerned 437 00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:00,400 about, especially looking at Scandinavia as 90% of all 438 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,080 transactions are done electronically. 439 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,960 Now 90% in, in Sweden specifically. 440 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,640 And I think this, this country is probably not far behind on, 441 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,280 on the curve. So it, that's a good discussion 442 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,680 to have. It's a big discussion, actually, 443 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,760 and not an easy one I'm I'm afraid. 444 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:29,160 So I think the the days that we should look at because you're 445 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,880 here mainly because you're here is that they don't want to 446 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,480 introduce the Holocaust day, but the most relevant day probably 447 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,360 to most people would be contrasting 4th of July 448 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,360 celebration and why that happened and what the British 449 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,320 did then. So knowing what can I lose them 450 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,560 looks like and then seeing how every empire does the same 451 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,760 thing. So whether it's a Romans or it's 452 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,920 you guys now or whoever, whoever has hegemony of whatever's going 453 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,480 to happen next. So people can look at it with 454 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:04,560 one lens and go and you can spot the propaganda because the 455 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,120 subdued people have no rights and get well, the stuff that's 456 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,720 taken and get killed. And the hegemony is always 457 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,120 right. But you can spot it. 458 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,280 And if you teach that in school, then you go, OK, well do. 459 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,680 Are we for this or are we not for this? 460 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,200 What's your what's your question? 461 00:29:29,050 --> 00:29:32,130 So, well, the question was, instead of the Holocaust day, 462 00:29:32,330 --> 00:29:35,850 shouldn't we look into having the 4th of July day? 463 00:29:35,850 --> 00:29:38,970 Because culturally, you're more similar than Israel is to us. 464 00:29:39,290 --> 00:29:41,410 That's interesting. You're, you're assuming that 465 00:29:42,050 --> 00:29:46,280 that the Americans defeated the British in 1776. 466 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:52,800 Did they? I, I, I, I think, I think all 467 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,720 what happened was the relationship changed. 468 00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:01,040 And think of it like the Anglo American Empire because that's 469 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,040 what it is. It's an Anglo American LED 470 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:10,080 global hegemon, City of London, Wall Street, Washington DC, 3 471 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,800 city states, Britain's the brains, America's the muscle. 472 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,840 America could not do what it does in the world without 473 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,680 Britain and and it in many ways benefits from the British 474 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,880 colonial network which is still very much in place. 475 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:35,480 And Britain is more of a Pax Britannia than USS Pax American. 476 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,520 And Britain has more in common with the Roman Empire because of 477 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:43,760 language, legal frameworks, maritime law, shipping and 478 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,640 commerce. All that was all British systems 479 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,880 and it was competing with France, Napoleon and his vision 480 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,560 of what the legal, you know, Napoleonic law. 481 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,160 And that was something they wanted to evangelise around the 482 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,320 world and were unsuccessful. Britain was successful. 483 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,920 So America is riding on the back of that as an, as an English 484 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,640 language, you know, English speaking country. 485 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,880 And so you can't separate. I don't think you can really 486 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,960 separate the two. There might be some superficial 487 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,960 political arguments about Trump and, you know, intelligence 488 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,600 services trying to steal dossier and so forth. 489 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,960 But at the end of the day, Britain's always there to whip 490 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,880 America into position on foreign policy. 491 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:34,480 They, they were in Ukraine, they were in Iraq, Skripal, all of 492 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,160 these things, the, the, they're all, they all serve the same 493 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,480 ends, which is and when, when the Republicans were wavering on 494 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,840 Ukraine, they sent Boris Johnson over to crack the whip. 495 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,320 And of course the Americans, when the British come over and 496 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,720 do speaking tours or show up at think tanks and Americans are 497 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,320 like, oh, the British are here. Oh, great. 498 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,480 You know, they love it. Oh, ex Prime Minister, He must 499 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,480 be like the, the cream of the crop. 500 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,200 Really. Boris is there the shirttail 501 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,840 out. You know, it's sad, but it's 502 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,120 true. Tony Blair arrives in in 503 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,880 Washington, he they roll out the red carpet. 504 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,960 He doesn't get the red carpet here, but he will he will get it 505 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,440 in America. So but that's kind of how how 506 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,640 things are rolling. And you know, so Britain's much 507 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:26,400 more vociferously anti Russian than America is naturally, but 508 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,640 the establishment needs Britain to play that role to kick 509 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,400 America into touch. And I think that's what 510 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,600 Russiagate was about because the although it demonised Trump and 511 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,720 made him into a Russian asset, at the end of the day, it made 512 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,160 Trump become more of a anti Russian President in terms of 513 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,400 sanctions, giving lethal aid to the Ukraine before Biden, Trump 514 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,680 set up, Trump set the stage for the Ukrainian war. 515 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,400 And he says, it's not my war. This isn't my war. 516 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,680 This is Biden's war, Nothing to do with it. 517 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,800 Biden's war. I'm just here to break up the 518 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:07,040 fight. You know, it's total BS Trump 519 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,400 did everything to ramp that war up. 520 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,600 Biden took it and and made it go go live. 521 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,000 And now Trump is doing nothing to stop it. 522 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,720 Quite frankly, there's no change on the ground between Biden and 523 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,960 Trump. So you have the political 524 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:26,120 theatre on the surface, but below the policy is consistent. 525 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,840 So just again, play the man, not the ball. 526 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,200 Yeah, I've been on this journey for quite a while. 527 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,960 Like most of us. They occurred to me the other 528 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,320 day, we're in a fight, obviously, but what we fighting 529 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,680 for? What is the end game of where 530 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,440 we're trying to head? Because most of the younger 531 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,480 generation want everything like it is. 532 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,920 They want progressive, they want multicultural societies. 533 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:55,480 They want, you know, no, not, not all of us, but we're talking 534 00:33:55,480 --> 00:34:00,160 about a large majority of of the people don't want what we're 535 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:06,280 trying to hold on to. I think, I think, I think if, if 536 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,760 the agenda is going in a direction that you don't want it 537 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:13,199 to go in sometimes, I mean, you to get in front of a juggernaut 538 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:16,800 and stop a juggernaut like this is near impossible unless you're 539 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,679 willing to die for these rights. And if it's a question of dying 540 00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:25,199 for your rights or making adjustments in your life, 99, 541 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,520 nine, 9999 people out of 10,000 are going to make adjustments. 542 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:35,600 That's just a fact. But but you can build parallel 543 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,440 systems, You can do parallel events, you can have parallel 544 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,320 communities and you can do that simultaneously. 545 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,040 And this you break your breakaway civilization and there 546 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,800 are many breakaway civilizations. 547 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,719 I'm going to one in a couple of weeks in Serbia, Lieberland, 548 00:34:55,239 --> 00:35:01,200 it's sort of self declared semi autonomous oblast in Serbia that 549 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,320 is populated by anarchists. So and they're having in a 550 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,840 conference in a couple weeks. So it's just small example, but 551 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,800 more basically, you can do things in your community, you 552 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:19,680 can do commerce, you can do things you can the cash issue is 553 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:25,120 obviously massive for that, but parallel systems, parallel 554 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,920 businesses, parallel organisations. 555 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,720 We're UK column is a parallel civilization next to the 556 00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:34,840 mainstream media. It's it's running parallel, but 557 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,720 it's not on the same track at all. 558 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,040 And it has a different audience. It has a different way of doing 559 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,440 things, has a different world view. 560 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,400 It's completely different, 2 totally separate worlds. 561 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:51,320 So how did that start? With a pamphlet, with A1 page 562 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:59,520 pamphlet, you know so right. What are your thoughts on a man 563 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,960 of peace bombing Iran? The man of peace? 564 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:09,400 Are you talking about 47 Donald Trump? 565 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,560 Yeah. I mean, Americans like Mr Trump, 566 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,600 don't they? He wants the No, he's desperate 567 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,120 for the Nobel Peace Prize. And we all know that he's made 568 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,280 no secret about it. He's made no, he he really wants 569 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,200 that bad and he's going to bomb his way to that prize. 570 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,280 I mean, it's it is it's I think the theatre of it, the 571 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,400 vaudeville aspect of it is so crazy. 572 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,680 It's like I'll talk about on the news programme, but the the 573 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,600 Nordstream, the Nordstream sabotage and talk about a 574 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,240 vaudeville show that that is incredible. 575 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:50,880 I mean, this the note, it's because he's, he's not a man of 576 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,200 peace. I mean, he's not a man of peace. 577 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,080 I think at this point, if you still think Donald Trump is a 578 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,560 man of peace, then I know I'm, I'm speaking rhetorically too. 579 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,160 I can't help you at that point. There's nothing I can say. 580 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,640 I've I have if you fall on my work for the last seven months, 581 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,000 I have said pretty much everything that can be said on 582 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,360 that topic. So I mean, it's we all Donald, 583 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,840 let's listen. Donald Trump ran and this, this 584 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,840 is the lesson I'll give. I'll give you an actual valuable 585 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,960 lesson, OK, especially about US politics. 586 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:35,440 Every single president since George W Bush in 2000 has run on 587 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:40,080 a peace anti war platform. George W Bush was no nation 588 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,800 building. That gave him the edge. 589 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,960 There's some key demographics in the US electoral map. 590 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,160 They're called bellwether counties, OK. 591 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:54,600 And some of them are people who are European Protestant, 592 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,280 Norwegian Americans, for instance, northern Wisconsin, 593 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,320 Minnesota and so forth. Whoever takes those bellwether 594 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,720 counties generally wins the election. 595 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,600 And some of those key demographics are pacifist. 596 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,600 And so you have to Republicans play to those demographics. 597 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,360 They have a good chance of winning the election. 598 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,320 George W Bush did on a no nation building platform. 599 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,080 One Barack Obama comes in 2008 on day one. 600 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,120 I'm going to bring the troops home, he said. 601 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,280 And of course, bring them home from Iraq. 602 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:26,720 We don't want our boys over there. 603 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,840 So a lot of people like, yeah, this is, oh, this is awesome. 604 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,480 This guy's great. And they all voted for me. 605 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,160 Won by a landslide. And did he do that? 606 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,520 No. He started 7 new wars in two 607 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:38,640 terms. But. 608 00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:42,640 And then Trump comes in 2016, Hillary Clinton, the warmonger, 609 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,840 Donald Trump saying we don't want any wars. 610 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,840 We don't bring them home. Bring them home. 611 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,840 We're going to bring them home. Quite frankly, I don't know. 612 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,240 We're doing the Hillary crooked Hillary wants to send the boys. 613 00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:57,160 I don't want to so and what happened, Donald? 614 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,120 They say Donald Trump didn't start any new wars. 615 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,760 That's a lie. Donald Trump deployed troops to 616 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,560 Syria and they stayed and they helped to topple the government 617 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,360 just this past December. US have occupied since 2017. 618 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,280 Donald Trump ramped up the war against Yemen. the United States 619 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,680 was running a proxy war with Saudi Arabia and the UAE. 620 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,320 Trump did that. Trump gave lethal aid to the 621 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,040 Ukrainians when Obama wouldn't even Obama wouldn't go that far. 622 00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:25,400 Trump yanked Iran nuclear deal and set the table for World War 623 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,960 3. Donald Trump did that so but the 624 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,720 the marketing was no new wars. Trump's a peace president. 625 00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:34,920 Whatever he ran, the point is he ran on it and won. 626 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,400 That gave him the edge. Biden 2020 election. 627 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,720 It's a bit of an anomaly. It was a COVID year. 628 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,560 They had George Floyd riots in the summer. 629 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,440 It was a mess. I don't even know if Biden 630 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,040 actually won. There's so much questions on 631 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,640 election fraud in in multiple states, but let's just put that 632 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,800 off to the side. Trump runs again in 2024 saying 633 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:05,120 I'm going to end this war in, in 24 hours, 1 phone call, one 634 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,160 phone call. Sleepy Joe couldn't do it. 635 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,280 I'm going to do it. You know, quite frankly, nobody 636 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:15,920 else could do it but me. So that's, that's and guess 637 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:16,760 what? He won. 638 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,520 He, he, we said it can't get worse than Biden. 639 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:25,000 I mean, this is Joe was just like, you know, smelling salts. 640 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,360 And so we, we, a lot of Americans took a punt on Trump 641 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,920 again, because they're like, well, if, if he does what he 642 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,880 says he's going to do, then we're at least going to avoid 643 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,080 World War three. That was the level of the 644 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,680 thought. OK, it turns out it's worse. 645 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,520 He he's taken Biden's baton and done it even worse. 646 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,720 So, So what is the the message is the people don't want war, 647 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,320 but the political class will get it. 648 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,560 Even if you vote them in on an anti war ticket. 649 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,720 They, the, the, the swamp, the machine will mould that 650 00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:04,120 candidate and put him into position to the point where he's 651 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,440 on a fait accompli. The road to war, that's the 652 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,600 lesson is there's a big difference between what we think 653 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,200 and I'm even beyond this tent. Mainstream people don't want war 654 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,800 generally, but if they, if they get strong armed into it, then 655 00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:21,560 they tend to go along with it. You get groupthink in the 656 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,880 madness of crowds, like COVID is another example. 657 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,840 There's a type of a war, but that, that's the, that's the 658 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,240 point. That's the point. 659 00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:33,840 And and this, this, this bait and switch happens so often. 660 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,960 I just gave you what, 4 presidents in the last 25 years? 661 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,600 Same exact thing. And the polling shows it as 662 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,120 well. That's the main lesson. 663 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,800 That's the main lesson. I hope that answers your 664 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:48,560 question somewhat.