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Welcome to the UK column viewers
and listeners. 

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Welcome back to No Smoke Without
Fire, where Debbie Evans and 

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myself, Brian Gerrish are going 
to be having a look at the Royal

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Family, King Charles in 
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This is episode 3 of this 
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pleased to say we've had, we've 
had quite some interest from our

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viewers and listeners and some 
very interesting comments. 

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One of the common ones is I 
never knew that about the Royal 

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family. 
I never knew that about Charles.

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So Debbie, welcome. 
It seems to me that this edition

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of No Smoke Without Fire has 
engaged with our audience. 

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Well, I'm very pleased to see 
that it's ignited. 

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See what I did there ignited 
some interest because you know, 

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I've learnt so much through 
doing this research and I'm 

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continuing to learn and 
continuing to be surprised. 

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So let's see what people think 
of, of what we found out this 

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time and that like, like we've 
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make everybody can make up their
own minds. 

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We all we can do is just present
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evidence as we have it. 
And then everyone makes up, 

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joins their own dots, and finds 
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Truth. 
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allowed to ask some questions, 
Debbie. 

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I think questions are always 
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ask the right question and 
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people watching, listening in, 
answer the question in their own

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heads. 
But I'm going to say don't be 

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too shy because you 
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the research into this. 
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this morning that just before we
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little bit of a giggle because 
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is very, very heavy, we we know 
that we have to, we have to keep

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a little bit of a balance and a 
sense of humour. 

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So we're having a bit of a joke 
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But we also thought it'd be a 
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with a bit of video, because 
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And it does get a lot of 
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What caught your eye, Debbie, in
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Well, quite a lot caught my eye.
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hasn't it, for the Royals, a lot
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this, there's been the the 
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Wales's photograph that she 
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The King has a diagnosis of 
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public appearances, so other 
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stepping in for him. 
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Commonwealth message and there 
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reaction from some of the public
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message. 
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get one of those gut feelings 
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you think our things are 
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And I'm hearing the words 
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And I think we're going to be 
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Commonwealth in the future. 
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as perhaps being what I would 
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you like, for the agenda or 
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Commonwealth, probably because 
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him. 
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listening to the Commonwealth 
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Debbie the Commonwealth of 
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large number of people on the 
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I can't remember off the top of 
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talking about live within the 
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But it's not only a soft target,
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But you're also dealing with a 
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under the sphere of influence of
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much the Royal Family because 
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comes into my mind, sorry, sorry
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with this, but I didn't want to 
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years ago Mike Robinson and I 
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within the Scottish Parliament 
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surprised about this because the
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to the Commonwealth. 
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another document and it was 
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best route to it didn't talk 
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And I I wished that we had taken
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particular day because the next 
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months later. 
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looking for it, it had gone. 
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telling the audience what I saw.
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assure the audience I'm telling 
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And we were just fascinated to 
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border looking at the 
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stepping stone for something 
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So, Debbie, make of that what 
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Well, I think you you struck on 
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don't quote me, but I've got a 
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my brain. 
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world's population is based are 
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control or to have power over 
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you know, Europe or the 
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OK, so back on the subject of 
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We've got a video to do with the
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Yes, well, only actually we're 
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It was recorded by the king 
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he's got cancer diagnosis, so he
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celebrations. 
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The 75th anniversary of the 
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reflect on the remarkable 
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of free and independent nations 
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Last year, the Bahamas 
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of independence, as Grenada has 
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will next year. 
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many others like them, represent
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aspirations and the achievement 
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And the Commonwealth growth, 
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join our family of nations, 
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we may not all have a shared 
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ambitions for a better future, 
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resilience and respond to global
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The Commonwealth families 
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through friendship. 
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Commonwealth is like the wiring 
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Our energy and our ideas are the
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wires. 
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strengthened by sharing 
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by offering and borrowing the 
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the challenges of our time. 
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of nations and indeed at the 
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We recognize today that our 
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strength. 
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of humanity from all regions of 
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different experiences, 
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this brings. 
Wherever we live, we are united 

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by the many challenges we face, 
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the loss of nature, or the 
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new technologies are bringing. 
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challenges affect us all 
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experience their impacts in 
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All of this means that we must 
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other's perspectives, including 
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which still resonate to this 
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We must find ways of healing and
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solutions. 
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it is by coming together that we
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improve our world and the lives 
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Indeed, over the years, 
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Commonwealth have been inspired 
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associations, from lawyers and 
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trade networks, and many more 
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The work they do is absolutely 
vital, sharing professional 

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knowledge, experience and 
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for the betterment of each one 
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The Commonwealth above all 
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our young people who make up 2/3
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population. 
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Vanuatu or Dominica, Malta or 
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impressed by their creativity, 
innovative skills and hard work,

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often in the most challenging 
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Their energy is transforming 
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technology and preserving and 
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hope, help to shape and 
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Having recently celebrated my 
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heart to reflect on the way the 
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throughout my own life, a 
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inspiration and pride. 
In recent weeks I have been most

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deeply touched by your 
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good wishes for my health and in
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serve you to the best of my 
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Commonwealth. 
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endeavours and in the potential 
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and strong as it has ever been. 
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continue to support one another 
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together we continue this vital 
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Well, Debbie, I have not heard 
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before and I found it absolutely
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We had a little bit of 
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today's No Smoke Without Fire as
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run for, but I actually feel 
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clip is very, very informative. 
So he's heading for our common 

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future. 
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Is. 
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third of humanity and it's 2/3 
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people. 
So he's targeting young people. 

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And you know, you look back and 
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Edinburgh's Award targeting 
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targeting young people. 
And you start to see, well, you 

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know, was this a good hearted 
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right places with the right 
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underlying reason? 
Has this always been targeting 

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young people? 
Because I don't know if you I 

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didn't count. 
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common in in that piece, in that
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Commonwealth or common ambitions
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he kept using the word common. 
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Commonwealth Association where 
he's promoting young people, 

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lawyers, accountants. 
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A It seems like this huge, great
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You know, this is the 
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industry, it's a business. 
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I picked up on that as well. 
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strange that the first 
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doing something to help 
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Lawyers and no general 
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the legal profession, but it's 
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it, To say that this is the 
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helping to save humanity. 
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message? 
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fear, because he's talking about
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facing the planet with climate 
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environment itself. 
So he's he's very subtly putting

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out of a message of fear to 2/3 
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population, which is itself 1/3 
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That's some powerhouse, isn't 
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Yeah, he's putting pressure, a 
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young people, you know? 
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preserving and restoring nature.
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This is their job. 
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to do. 
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found quite extraordinary the 
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family was like wiring a house 
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through the wires within the 
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using analogy there as well. 
But this is not a stupid man. 

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You know, a lot of people have 
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Charles, you know, he's a bit 
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that he is. 
He talks to plants and I don't 

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doubt that he does. 
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He's very astute. 
He's very well read and he's 

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he's a businessman and he's had 
a mission for many, many years 

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and he's been accomplishing it, 
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So I don't think that Prince 
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eccentric, kind of not so highly
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led to believe. 
I think he's very switched on 

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and I think he knows exactly 
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Yes, he isn't Tim. 
Nice but dim I think was the the

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description. 
No, he's something very 

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different. 
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seems to me that he's very 
switched on within his own frame

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of reference because there's 
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does not want to engage in. 
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of the world, he's he's very 
switched on. 

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But he doesn't appear to be able
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people. 
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people who are suffering, people
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the churches, none of that he 
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Doesn't care. 
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He he just, he it's people say 
you know he's nobility. 

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He's the king. 
He's not in tune with the 

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people. 
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have to be. 
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be either. 
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it in the in the cold light of 
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don't know, Brian, but casting 
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years that the Queen was on the 
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public en masse objecting or 
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You heard about the odd, you 
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and then, but you didn't hear 
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discontent about the monarchy 
like we do now. 

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And as you know, as he was 
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there were protests going on and
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And there was drums and all 
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we didn't get to hear about on 
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Should we have a look at that 
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we should show the audience 
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So let's see some of this 
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there's quite a lot of points to
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So it's a protest video. 
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people are saying, sometimes you
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there or it's all a bit muffled.
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were, and then we can have a 
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With the 1000 lbs, what it could
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Almost £300 million a year? 
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pounds. 
Find out why we don't enjoy it 

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so much. 
Have a lovely afternoon. 

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But we're here to get rid of the
monarchy because it is wrong in 

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principle. 
It is a corrupt institution. 

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And because it is bad for our 
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standing here saying he is not 
acting and instead of a 

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coronation we need an election. 
Instead of child, we need a 

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choice. 
That's why we're going to be 

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here and we're going to be at 
every place that which King 

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Charles goes to, asking him 
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asking him to take part in 
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And we're going to be asking him
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why he dodges income tax, why 
he's so secretive, why he throws

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his son under the bus but 
protects his brother. 

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We're going to be asking why he 
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state without a single vote 
cast. 

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We're supposed to be a 
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We should not have a king in 
2023. 

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We should have an election for 
our head of state. 

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We're not arguing for the US 
system. 

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We're arguing for a 
parliamentary Republic. 

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I would argue for every man 
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treated as equals in law. 
I will argue for all of us. 

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We have the right to vote, to 
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to be our head of state if we so
choose them. 

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Well, there we are. 
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throw at you. 
I don't expect necessarily an 

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answer, but whenever I see 
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protest with the T-shirts and 
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wonder who they are. 
So I don't know who the group in

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yellow is, but I'm, I'm very 
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And I also noticed in that 
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drumming, and drumming was very 
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Rebellion was turning up, not 
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Rebellion, but they were 
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in order to undermine other 
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taking place, particularly in 
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What? 
What's your take on the On the 

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Guys in Yellow? 
I think, I think you make a very

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good point. 
We don't know who they are. 

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We definitely don't know who 
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motive and their intention, I 
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either. 
But what I do know is listening 

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to people on the street, what I 
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from young people especially, 
who don't seem terribly engaged 

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with monarchy, full stop. 
Actually, they, they really 

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don't seem to care or take much 
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So I don't see that the 
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perhaps with William and and and
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Royal. 
Maybe they'll encourage more 

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young members of the population.
I don't know. 

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But I I hear my generation, our 
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king, he's not my king. 
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say that I've always been a 
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family have always been there 
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monarchist. 
So I went to see the state 

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opening a parliament and stuff. 
But now would I, would I have 

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ever gone to something and said 
not my queen? 

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No, probably not. 
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taken the throne and all of a 
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So I feel that they're 
reflecting. 

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I think a lot of what of of what
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But I'm not sure who they are. 
Does that make sense? 

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Sorry, I've. 
Rambled a little bit. 

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It it absolutely makes sense and
and personally I excuse me, I 

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feel this a lot of people could 
be very critical about Queen 

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Elizabeth but if you say OK come
up with the evidence showing 

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well they might come up and say 
well she's immensely wealthy and

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that that's that's one certainty
but she had a calm dignity and 

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she did seem to have an an 
ability to to actually get on 

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with people. 
Charles is completely different.

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And yeah, he's come, he's come 
onto the throne and this furor 

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has started. 
But just to be fair to the team 

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in in yellow, of course they're 
saying he's not our king and we 

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didn't vote for him. 
And I think I'm right in saying 

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that if we go back in English 
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case that that the people I'll 
qualify, that people we're 

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getting into, people with some 
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least get a say who was going to
become king or queen. 

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They actually made a decision as
to whether a person was suitable

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to be on the throne. 
But Charles was was anointed and

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put on the throne without any 
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And that's the bit that I feel 
particularly uncomfortable 

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about. 
So maybe maybe their suggestion 

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in that demonstration that 
people should have a say who 

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becomes their king and queen. 
Perhaps there's some real merit 

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in that. 
Well, I don't think if nothing 

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else, anybody from outside the 
UK watching this now should know

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that King Charles is not loved 
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Far from it. 
There are many people in the 

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United Kingdom who are saying 
he's not my king. 

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And I find when I look around 
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there's more love and more 
respect I see for the royal 

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family outside of the UK and and
I think that's it. 

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That's an interesting dynamic 
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overseas, they think that we're 
all, you know, staunch 

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royalists, whereas actually 
that's not completely the 

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picture. 
And as you say that Debbie, what

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comes into my head was the 
interview I did with a lady 

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called Sam from Uganda and in 
talking about things to do with 

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the family courts and child 
stealing by the state. 

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But she was talking about living
in her own country and the image

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of UK that was portrayed in in 
Uganda. 

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And of course one of the things 
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particular, which of course has 
got this audience, this huge 

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global audience, is remarkably 
good at selling the message that

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everything is lovely in UK and 
what a wonderful royal family we

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have. 
So I wonder whether some of that

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feeling and loyalty, even love 
for the royal family that you 

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you see people in the 
Commonwealth expressing is a 

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result of the propaganda that's 
been published, pushed into 

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their own countries via the BBC 
and other royalty aligned media 

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outlets. 
Yeah, I'm sure, I'm absolutely 

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sure. 
Because when we start to see 

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what King Charles has been up to
behind the scenes and what he's 

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created for the Commonwealth, 
I'm hoping that people's 

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perspectives change and people 
start to ask some very serious 

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questions. 
Because this doesn't just affect

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the United Kingdom, you know, 
potentially the globe. 

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But for sure, everybody that's 
living in a Commonwealth country

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should take notice of what King 
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Yeah. 
Well, and on that wonderful 

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comment, I think that's time 
perhaps to get back into the 

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narrative that you were 
delivering in the previous 

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episode of No Smoke. 
And of course, you were showing 

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all of the things that King 
Charles and Prince Charles as he

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was what the king was involved 
in. 

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And the key topic that we really
broke on at the end of the last 

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episode was Terra Carter and the
Sustainable Markets Initiative 

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for people who are still 
thinking, Oh well, he's just 

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that nice man who's the king? 
Let's get back in into having a 

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look at what he's into. 
The sustainable initiatives, 

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we've all heard of the 
Sustainable Goals. 

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So the sustainable initiatives 
is this website that King 

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Charles has got, but it's 
otherwise known as Terracotta. 

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So this was established at the 
World Economic Forum by Charles 

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in 2020 and it was talking about
a one planet, it's it's, it's 

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been discussed before through 
the One Planet summit. 

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You can see actually in the next
slide what the then Prince of 

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Wales said about his new Terra 
Carter. 

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There's the quote there from 
him. 

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The Terra Carter offices offers 
the basis of a recovery plan 

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that puts nature, people and 
planet at the heart of global 

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value creation, one that will 
harness the precious, 

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irreplaceable power of nature. 
Combined with the transformative

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innovation and resources of the 
private sector, He is talking 

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about global value creation and 
he's talking about the private 

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sector. 
This is about stripping even 

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more wealth out of the globe. 
This is not about people. 

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He doesn't even put people 
first. 

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Nature comes first. 
Money. 

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It's all about money. 
See. 

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There we go again. 
This is the common theme. 

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He's a businessman. 
This is a business. 

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This Terra Carter is the 
trademark. 

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And of course if you think about
Magna Carta, where the people 

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came first, he's just, he's just
kind of wiped that off off the 

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face of the planet. 
Literally. 

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And now he's installed Terra 
Carta and something else which 

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we'll come to in a minute, 
another Carter. 

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But Terra Carta is, is the road 
map if you like. 

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Well, it is it's it's it's the 
road map to what's coming down 

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the line. 
And it's he says that this is 

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going to promote an inclusive, 
equitable, prosperous and 

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sustainable future for the sake 
of present and future 

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generations. 
Well, I would say his the 

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generations of the nobility, the
generations of the globalist. 

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But not us, I don't think. 
Terry Carter will serve as the 

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guiding mandate for this is the 
Prince of Wales because it was 

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written a while ago. 
Sustainable Markets Initiative. 

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This is about markets. 
The Terracotta aims to provide 

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an integrated road map towards 
an inspiring, inclusive, 

455
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,280
equitable, prosperous and 
sustainable future for the sake 

456
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,080
of present and future 
generations, supporting the 

457
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:49,040
protection and restoration of a 
minimum of 30% biodiversity on 

458
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:56,320
land and below water by 2030 and
50% by 2050, encouraging 

459
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,720
coordination, cooperation and 
cohesion within corporate and 

460
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,160
public private philanthropic 
domains. 

461
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,000
And then it ends by saying that 
Terra Carter is to be a living 

462
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,040
document that will be reported 
on an updated annually. 

463
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,040
This will allow the Terra Carter
to keep up with global progress,

464
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,840
technology evolution, and a 
shifting investment landscape, 

465
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:26,080
while seizing rapidly emerging 
opportunities developing around 

466
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,640
the world. 
This whole language, Debbie, 

467
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,280
you're absolutely right. 
This is corporate language 

468
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,560
markets, developing markets, 
developing opportunities. 

469
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:42,280
This is about taking more money 
out of the earth wherever it's 

470
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,800
possible. 
Public, private, philanthropic 

471
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,680
partnership, money, money, money
all back down to money. 

472
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,520
But you know, what I thought was
interesting was where it said 

473
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,200
supporting the protection. 
I mean, let this sink in because

474
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,640
it's quite extraordinary 
supporting the protection and 

475
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:07,360
restoration of a minimum of 30% 
of biodiversity on London below 

476
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:13,679
water by 2030. 
Now that's a 30% of biodiversity

477
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,040
by 20-30. 
That's the Commonwealth, right? 

478
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:19,320
That's pretty much that. 
That's the same sort of land 

479
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,280
mass as the Commonwealth. 
But that's not good enough. 

480
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:32,320
He wants to return the Earth to 
that's half the planet by 2050. 

481
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,679
I mean that's enormous, 
enormous. 

482
00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:42,880
And then you've got these seals 
that go with Terra Carta and you

483
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,000
can see the green one, which is 
Terra Carta. 

484
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,440
So that's the sustainable 
initiatives. 

485
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,480
And let's not forget, you know, 
we've got big players in in in 

486
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,320
terracotta. 
We've got people like Unilever, 

487
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,800
AstraZeneca, BP, we've got Bank 
America, Heathrow, Heathrow 

488
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,520
Airports, Ernst Young, they're 
all involved in Terracotta. 

489
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,760
And then you've got Astra Carta.
So you've got the crown on one 

490
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:15,360
side with butterflies and bees 
king of the world and people of 

491
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,320
the people on the planet, 
harmony and nature. 

492
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,040
And then on the right hand side 
you've got Astrakarta, where it 

493
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:28,160
says to care for the infinite 
wonders of the universe and it's

494
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,120
his crown. 
So is he saying there that he's 

495
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,840
king of the the Earth and king 
of the universe? 

496
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,280
Well, if you ask me that 
question, my response is yes, he

497
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,680
does. 
This is what I pick up from his 

498
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,080
his his whole initiative and his
demeanour and what comes out of 

499
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,760
his mouth. 
Yes, he actually does believe 

500
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,360
that he's king, King of the 
earth. 

501
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:58,280
And and to also believe he's 
king of space is is just 

502
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,520
incredible. 
I mean, I'll throw this in 

503
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,520
deliberately. 
Is he saying he's king of 

504
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:09,360
heaven? 
Well, well, I guess yes. 

505
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,960
You know, I I can't see any 
other way. 

506
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,000
This is the question though, 
isn't it for everybody to 

507
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,720
answer. 
It's going to be everybody's own

508
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:23,960
personal opinion. 
It's a difficult one, but yeah, 

509
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,360
I would say so. 
And this this seal, that green 

510
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,720
Seal that you saw that's really 
important in the big scheme of 

511
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:34,720
things because if you get 
awarded one of those then it's 

512
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:38,640
like receiving I guess the Willy
Wonka Golden ticket through to 

513
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,760
the Brave new World and you can 
see there that that's just 

514
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,600
another company, well that's the
SAP awarded Terracotta seal for 

515
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:53,040
commitments for sustainability. 
So if your company is, is a 

516
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:59,000
green company and eco friendly 
and agrees to of the net zero, 

517
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:04,000
the climate agenda etcetera, you
get the green seal and if you 

518
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:09,200
get the green seal or the black 
seal then you know you're doing 

519
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,440
very well for yourself. 
Thank you for the future. 

520
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,200
You're pretty much got a 
guaranteed successful company 

521
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,080
and we've got companies, I mean 
sustainable, the sustainable 

522
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:25,200
initiative, restoring the planet
to nature and yet AstraZeneca, 

523
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:28,520
you know you've got companies 
like AstraZeneca that are 

524
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,120
supporting this. 
So this is, this is big business

525
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,680
and it even spans to America big
time. 

526
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:41,480
And I was surprised to see that 
this press release came out from

527
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:46,400
the the White House last year, 
July the 10th, 2023. 

528
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,800
And President Biden, he was 
hosted by King Charles at 

529
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,120
Windsor. 
And a lot goes on at Windsor 

530
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,480
because we were talking in in 
the first episode of Green King 

531
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,280
about Windsor and Windsor House 
and the laity and a lot goes on 

532
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,800
at Windsor. 
But President Biden went off to 

533
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:14,160
meet with the King and 23 
philanthropists and financiers 

534
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:19,720
to discuss this whole net zero 
climate change with Charles. 

535
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,680
Over recent months, I am 
watching more and more video 

536
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,960
clips, of course, of President 
Biden. 

537
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,720
Who is stuttering and stumbling 
his way through public's 

538
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:36,840
speeches and and election 
gatherings And it's quite clear 

539
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:42,640
that the man is absolutely past 
it and is not capable of making 

540
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,040
any coherent, common sense 
decision. 

541
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:51,400
And then my mind says, OK, well,
if that's the case, why is Biden

542
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,400
still in power? 
Well, he's still in power 

543
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:59,960
because having a nearly 
dribbling, incompetent president

544
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:04,360
means that the real power base 
is hidden by him. 

545
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,240
It's the power base under him. 
So when you talk about July the 

546
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:13,200
10th last year, 2023, when 
President Biden and the team of 

547
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:18,280
philanthropists were meeting up 
with Charles, Biden wasn't 

548
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,920
putting anything into the 
meeting. 

549
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:24,080
He was just there as the as the 
rather dozy figurehead, the 

550
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,160
powerhouse was the advisors that
came with him or the 

551
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,400
corporations that came in with 
him. 

552
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,560
And and the last point I'll make
is that at no stage of this 

553
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:40,040
development of Terra Carter or 
the Space Odyssey as I'm going 

554
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:45,200
to call it, did Charles talk to 
the people in UK. 

555
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,800
He didn't call a meeting with 
his subjects and say, look, this

556
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,360
is what I think is important. 
This is what I intend to do. 

557
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:59,280
He he, he went straight away to 
these all powerful corporations,

558
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,080
global companies. 
And then once he's developed the

559
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:07,840
formula, he's dictating to his 
own subjects and he's actually 

560
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,240
dictating to the poor people in 
the Commonwealth because they're

561
00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:16,040
being deceived into believing 
that this is a wonderful man 

562
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,080
that's got their best interests 
at heart. 

563
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,000
Yeah, absolutely. 
And for sure he absolutely 

564
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:27,280
hasn't. 
I mean, at the at Windsor, Grant

565
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,480
Shapps went along, John Kerry 
went along as well. 

566
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,840
And the whole idea with all of 
these philanthropists and these 

567
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,160
financiers, the whole idea was 
basically to kick it up a gear, 

568
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,680
to put your foot back down on 
the accelerator, literally to 

569
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,960
accelerate terracotta. 
And that's exactly what they 

570
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,400
were planning and that's exactly
what you've got in front of you 

571
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,040
now. 
And a lot of people, many people

572
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,120
have heard of Terracotta, but 
not many have heard of the 

573
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,560
Terracotta Accelerator Fund, 
which is is the document that's 

574
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:02,520
on screen now. 
Right. 

575
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,920
So that's that's 100 million. 
But at the bottom it says the 

576
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,960
members of the Sustainable 
Markets Initiatives Financial 

577
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:16,120
Services Task Force have 
committed over 8.9 trillion 

578
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:22,520
dollars, $8.9 trillion to 
support the transition to net 0 

579
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,080
by 2030 or sooner. 
Well, of course that deadline's 

580
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:27,920
failed. 
That's the good news. 

581
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,320
But these people magicked up 8.9
trillion. 

582
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,320
Meanwhile, in the Commonwealth, 
let's let's play Charlie's game.

583
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,920
In the Commonwealth we've got 
people with no fresh water who 

584
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,200
can't feed themselves, but we 
haven't got any money for them. 

585
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:49,440
This, this, I'm going to say it.
This man to me is a complete 

586
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:53,040
fraud. 
I can accept that he believes 

587
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,040
what he believes, but for him to
claim that he's got the best 

588
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,800
interests of people in UK and 
the Commonwealth at heart, this 

589
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:06,680
is this is a fraudulent claim. 
It's a rich fraud though, isn't 

590
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,320
it? 
I mean, I take it back to money 

591
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,320
again. 
Yeah, OK. 

592
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:17,120
It's gone back to money and and 
in order to to put the foot down

593
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:22,360
on the accelerator with Terra 
Carter, he's had to make some 

594
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:27,040
adaptations. 
So he's employed a company 

595
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:32,080
called Pollination Global 
Climate and Nature Investment 

596
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,200
Advisory Firm. 
So they're going to be the 

597
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,520
general partner of the funds 
because they've got this funding

598
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:43,880
goal of $125 million. 
And then they've also had to 

599
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,720
appoint, appoint a global law 
firm. 

600
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,320
You can see there whites and 
Kay. 

601
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:55,040
So this is where the 
acceleration accelerates even 

602
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,520
more. 
And I just started to look into 

603
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,640
pollination and you can see 
there, Brian, that it's a 

604
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,840
specialist climate change 
investment and advisory firm. 

605
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:09,120
Right and and and it says. 
It says our people are the key 

606
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,920
to unlocking change. 
I wondered whether White and 

607
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:17,160
Case the law firm that he 
mentions is why Charles in his 

608
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:22,280
speech that we opened this No 
smoke without fire episode. 

609
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,760
We showed the clip of him 
talking and the first people he 

610
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,400
mentioned as helping this whole 
change and improvement and 

611
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,560
transition of the world were 
lawyers. 

612
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,560
So do you think maybe he had 
that firm whitened case in his 

613
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,960
head? 
So that was a little plug to the

614
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,760
good job that his his legal 
friends had done. 

615
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,280
Yeah, for sure. 
And we'll come on to, we'll come

616
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,200
on to them in a minute, but 
before we get on to them. 

617
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,120
And I think it's relevant too to
what you've just said is that 

618
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,040
Pollination, which is a 
specialist climate change 

619
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,400
investment advisory firm as 
we've just said, look down at 

620
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,920
the bottom there and you'll see 
that we're talking governments, 

621
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,920
businesses, public, private 
capital. 

622
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,400
So again, we're looking at this 
fusion of public private 

623
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,080
partnership with 
philanthropists. 

624
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,640
But I just wanted to see, I mean
we will get, I, I promise you we

625
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,880
will come to the lawyers, but 
these are the kind of people 

626
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:29,480
that are running pollination. 
You've got Tony O'Sullivan and 

627
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:34,120
Martin Wilder and I mean you 
know they've they've got some 

628
00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:39,120
pretty, pretty strong CVS there.
You know they've been around the

629
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,360
block a little bit and you can 
see plenty of names that will 

630
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,640
pop out to you like the 
Australian Renewable Energy 

631
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,680
Agency arena. 
We've talked about them before. 

632
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:53,640
This is all net zero. 
But then you've got the 

633
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,120
Serpentine gallery mentioned 
there. 

634
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,680
You've got these are people with
a lot of money and a lot of 

635
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:05,840
power, and they're going to be 
controlling literally trillions 

636
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,360
of people. 
This Terracotta accelerator 

637
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:15,280
that's going to be led by those 
two individuals is is is a very 

638
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,240
powerful organization. 
I mean, you might want to read 

639
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:21,960
the quote out at the top that 
King Charles wrote about Terra 

640
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,520
Carter there again. 
OK, so Terra Carter offers the 

641
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,360
basis of a recovery plan that 
puts nature, people and planet 

642
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,160
at the heart of global value 
creation. 

643
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,960
One that will harness the 
precious irreplaceable power of 

644
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,720
nature combined with the 
transformative innovation and 

645
00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:45,080
resources of the private sector.
So that comment he was, he was 

646
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,640
pushing out. 
But I'll just reinforce your 

647
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:52,680
comment on the two men involved 
with pollination because Tony, 

648
00:45:53,720 --> 00:45:56,400
what was the gentleman's name, 
Let me just call it up 

649
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,240
O'Sullivan. 
That's right. 

650
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:04,640
If you have a look at his CV, 
merchant banker and and involved

651
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,640
with hedge funds. 
So you know if we look at the 

652
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:15,360
world, I mean very recently I I 
did an interview with Justin 

653
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,320
Walker where we were talking 
about the Bradbury Pound. 

654
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:23,440
This is AI encourage people to 
go and listen to to that audio 

655
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,720
discussion. 
But what we were highlighting 

656
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:32,320
is, is how money is created and 
who creates the money. 

657
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:37,080
And what we essentially show 
very easily is the present 

658
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:42,600
system of of of money creation 
and the control of the monetary 

659
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:48,440
system is a fraudulent system. 
Charles leaps straight into bed.

660
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,360
Now we obviously not saying that
either of these gentlemen are 

661
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,880
doing anything wrong, but what 
we are saying is that there is a

662
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,600
financial system in the world. 
Charles has jumped straight into

663
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,480
bed with it, as if it's all bona
fide and has the best interests 

664
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,280
of the public at heart. 
I mean, for the whole of my 

665
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:13,520
life, which is getting longer, 
as it were, I I haven't woken up

666
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,680
in the morning thinking to 
myself, thank goodness for those

667
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,160
international bankers that are 
really, you know, helped me on 

668
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,840
my journey through life. 
Or thank goodness for those 

669
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,880
hedge funds which are which are 
supporting the local Hospice. 

670
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,240
Or thank goodness for the 
bankers who are really helping 

671
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,000
our medical system to survive. 
I'm not thinking that at all. 

672
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,680
What I'm actually thinking is 
these are the people who are 

673
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:43,520
milking every area of human 
existence. 

674
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:48,680
There's nothing that there's 
nothing that we produce or have 

675
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:53,200
or grow that these people don't 
come in and take their financial

676
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,640
cut from. 
And Charles leaps straight into 

677
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:03,440
bed with them of. 
Course money, you know, and the 

678
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,480
two, the, the, the two gentlemen
that we've just highlighted, 

679
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,840
Tony O'Sullivan and Martin Wild,
you know, there's a big 

680
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,440
Australian theme going on there.
So again, we've got a 

681
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,880
Commonwealth creeping in. 
We're going to see Canada in a 

682
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,000
bit, creeping in. 
You can see where the 

683
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,440
Commonwealth is. 
None of it is for us. 

684
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:24,640
Let's just be clear about that. 
This isn't being done for our 

685
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:32,240
best interests at all at all. 
Yeah, we'll pause there. 

686
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,080
Yeah, because it it is 
breathtaking. 

687
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,040
And I mean, you know, we're only
on part three we've we've still 

688
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,760
got a long way to go. 
But I mean, let's just get into 

689
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,720
the Terra Carter accelerator a 
bit, because nobody is really 

690
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:51,000
talking about the accelerator, 
You know, Accelerator is a 

691
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,800
powerful word, and this really 
is speeding things up big time. 

692
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,920
Yeah. 
So it calls itself an 

693
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,040
accelerator program. 
It's building capacity, 

694
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:06,160
capability and capacity across 
early stage nature projects and 

695
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,600
companies nature. 
It's not to do with people. 

696
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,640
We've got a Terracotta 
accelerator fund investing 

697
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:19,080
globally and this is nature 
based projects and nature tech 

698
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,720
companies to deliver commercial 
returns. 

699
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:26,040
So you're spot on. 
This is about money and making 

700
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,240
more money and the accelerator 
initiative is a response to His 

701
00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:33,880
Majesty King Charles, the third 
challenge to the sustainable 

702
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:40,640
markets initiative to develop 5 
land based and five water based 

703
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,720
initiatives per year through to 
2030. 

704
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:49,000
It's got 125 million in the pot 
and then it talks about 

705
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:53,000
pollination and then it says the
aim is for the accelerator 

706
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:57,960
program to be launched in 2024. 
And they're going to be looking 

707
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,360
at proposals of people. 
And if anybody thinks that their

708
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,000
local parish council is going to
make a proposal to these boys, 

709
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,880
they best think again. 
Because these are going to be 

710
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,320
proposals that come in through 
the global corporations and 

711
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,440
there'll be proposals where 
those corporations see they can 

712
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,440
make most money. 
Sorry, getting a bit motivated 

713
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,680
here, Debbie, but we're really 
into this. 

714
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,880
We're really into this subject 
now. 

715
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,240
Well, I I think you're going to 
be even more into it when you 

716
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:29,560
see who said what on the next 
slide. 

717
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,920
Well, of course it's it's Mike 
Robinson's old friend Mark 

718
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:41,000
Carnage, as he likes to call him
Mark Carney, as was governor of 

719
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,280
the Bank of England. 
But he comes in by saying that 

720
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,880
the scale and urgency of the 
climate challenge is clear. 

721
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,960
We need a step change. 
We must act. 

722
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,880
And then he's saying that four 
out of five of the top G20 

723
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,120
companies now report on climate,
reported business risks and 

724
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:03,000
opportunities. 
And these are powerful boys 

725
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,680
because they got combined 
balance sheet values of 120 

726
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:12,000
trillion. 
Then he's on to COP 25 with 630 

727
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:17,120
institutional investors managing
37 trillion in assets. 

728
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,080
Momentum is building. 
We must bring together the right

729
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:26,040
combination of ideas, skills and
relationship to drive systemic 

730
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:30,560
change and capital flows. 
Pollination does that. 

731
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,640
So there you are. 
We're talking about huge sums of

732
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,920
money in order to create even 
more money and this is all going

733
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:43,280
to be accelerated. 
And remember that Mark Carney as

734
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,760
Mike in particular, excuse me, 
reported several times on UK 

735
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,640
column The Bank of the Governor 
of the Bank of England, as he 

736
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:57,120
was simply said that if 
companies do not adopt the green

737
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:01,480
agenda, they will be punished, 
they will be forced out of 

738
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,200
business. 
So this isn't even something 

739
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,280
which these boys are going to 
bring in with a carrot to the 

740
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,400
world population as something to
help them know. 

741
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:16,160
This is about screwing every 
every cent, every dime out of 

742
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,360
the out of the global system to 
make more profit. 

743
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,520
And if you don't want to play, 
they're going to put you out of 

744
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:28,360
business and you can starve. 
It's funny you say that though, 

745
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,960
because if you go back to the 
previous slide, you'll see that 

746
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:38,560
actually what you've just said 
is at Mark Connie's actually 

747
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,920
said it, Brian. 
It's the headline and investors,

748
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,560
yes. 
I'm sorry, I didn't like that 

749
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,360
in. 
Plain sight, right in front of 

750
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,040
your eyes. 
I'll let you read it out, 

751
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,880
because it's exactly what you've
just said. 

752
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,800
Well, that's because I was 
scanning the small print as it 

753
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,480
were there. 
Yeah, so, So I completely went 

754
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,440
by the headline. 
If some companies, investors 

755
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:05,040
fail to adjust to this new 
world, they will fail to exist. 

756
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,800
Think about what this, this, 
this man is saying. 

757
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:13,840
You don't play our game, we're 
going to wipe you out. 

758
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,080
And of course, for some people, 
if you wipe their businesses 

759
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:22,360
out, you wipe their lives out, 
you wipe their ability to feed 

760
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,920
themselves. 
So I'm I'm going to say when I 

761
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:30,240
look at these documentation, 
these documents, the language is

762
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:34,520
often very measured and it 
sounds reasonable, but the 

763
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,880
instinct of the people putting 
this stuff together are killers.

764
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,520
Yeah, absolutely right. 
But you know, I'm not going to 

765
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,640
disappoint you, Brian, because I
know you're waiting for the 

766
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,720
lawyers. 
You never have, Debbie, I don't 

767
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,240
think. 
I don't think you've ever 

768
00:53:50,240 --> 00:53:53,480
disappointed the UK column with 
research that you've been doing.

769
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,800
Well, I do. 
I do love to Deep Dive. 

770
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,480
I think people are starting to 
call me Deep Dive, Debbie. 

771
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,320
Now, I know a couple of our 
doctor friends are anyway, but 

772
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,600
there's there's the, there's the
legal firm. 

773
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:10,600
So there's White and Case, the 
King's legal firm who's going to

774
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,800
oversee the accelerator, Terra 
Carter Accelerator. 

775
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,960
Yeah, well, I don't need to say 
much about the international law

776
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,640
firm. 
A long history as a global firm 

777
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,000
and IT and they say they're 
uniquely placed to help our 

778
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:29,240
clients resolve their most 
complex legal challenges 

779
00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:32,240
wherever they are now. 
They're not talking about people

780
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,560
in the local town who've got a 
dispute between them. 

781
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:40,720
These these are people talking 
about working alongside vast 

782
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:47,560
global global corporations to 
help those corporations win 

783
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,160
whatever legal battle they need 
to win in order to make even 

784
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,320
more profit. 
That's what they're to do with, 

785
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:55,440
in my opinion. 
Well. 

786
00:54:56,240 --> 00:55:00,240
We know we know the kings 
interested in lawyers. 

787
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,000
We know the kings interested in 
bankers. 

788
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,160
We know the kings interested in 
charities. 

789
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,840
We know the kings interested in 
faith. 

790
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:13,000
Because money in all of those. 
I mean, you imagine we've just 

791
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:17,600
mentioned a few little strands. 
You imagine the huge pot of 

792
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,840
money if you Add all of those up
together. 

793
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:26,600
But let's just look at another 
area, sustainable insurance, 

794
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:31,000
because I never knew that 
existed, but it clearly does a 

795
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,000
United Nations Environment 
programme, Brian. 

796
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:39,400
Yes, a strategic approach where 
all activities in the insurance 

797
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,640
value chain, including 
interactions with stakeholders, 

798
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,240
are done in a responsible and 
forward-looking way. 

799
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:49,680
By identifying, assessing, 
managing and monitoring risks 

800
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,320
and opportunities associated 
with the environmental, social 

801
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:57,560
and governance issues, 
sustainable insurance aims to 

802
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:02,000
reduce risk, develop innovative 
solutions, improve business 

803
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,120
performance, and contribute to 
environmental, social and 

804
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:10,040
economic sustainability. 
And then I say, well, no, it 

805
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,400
doesn't. 
Insurance is about making money 

806
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,280
out of fear. 
People are fearful that their 

807
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,880
house is going to burn down and 
they're prepared to pay a lot of

808
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:24,080
money per year in order to 
mitigate the risk should that 

809
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,640
happen. 
So this is insurance companies 

810
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,000
working alongside big firms. 
It's not to do with them looking

811
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,920
after little people. 
Oh no. 

812
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,760
Perish the thought looking after
us little people. 

813
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:41,440
You know, just to reinforce 
really, the insurance is a big 

814
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,040
business when it comes to 
sustainable goals and 

815
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:49,240
sustainable development. 
And you can see there that 

816
00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:53,480
you've got Net Zero Insurance 
Alliance, the sustainable 

817
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:57,800
insurance facility of the 
vulnerable 20 group of finance 

818
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:03,320
ministers, the V20A Task Force 
on Nature Related Financial 

819
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:07,720
Disclosures. 
But it doesn't take long, does 

820
00:57:07,720 --> 00:57:13,200
it, before it all comes back 
full circle to the king. 

821
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:20,280
So the King's got his sausage 
fingers in the insurance pie as 

822
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,960
well. 
Yes, It's incredible, isn't it? 

823
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:27,440
Top insurers join Prince Charles
to fight the climate crisis. 

824
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,520
Yeah, I'd love to know how. 
What are they actually doing? 

825
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,720
Because we don't believe in the 
climate crisis anyway, but what 

826
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,080
do they think they're doing? 
And it goes on. 

827
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:40,000
It talks about there was a few 
mentioned there, legal and 

828
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,440
general Alliance, Hiscox and 
AXA. 

829
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:48,240
And they've all pledged support.
And they say that the Prince, 

830
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:52,080
what the Prince is doing, is 
helping us convene and galvanise

831
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:56,920
a whole of industry response. 
So this is where everything is 

832
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:03,040
drawn into a big network and the
moment you see private partner, 

833
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:07,640
private public partnership 
initiatives, the moment you're 

834
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,400
talking about this sort of 
thing, what it's actually doing 

835
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:15,280
is dumbing down governance 
that's accountable IT. 

836
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,320
It disappears into a BLOB. 
You're not sure whether you're 

837
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:22,360
dealing with profit making 
corporations or you're dealing 

838
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,720
with a think tank or you're 
dealing with the government. 

839
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:29,840
It's all in a sort of squidgy 
mass and and and the agendas 

840
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:35,480
driven through that opaque BLOB,
this is, this has been going on 

841
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,480
for years but now this is on a 
global scale where they're 

842
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:42,280
calmly saying, well, we've got 
the odd 9 trillion to make this 

843
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:46,840
happen, $9 trillion. 
Well, you know, you think about 

844
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,880
you've got money, you've got 
insurance. 

845
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,440
What else do you need? 
Oh, weather. 

846
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,320
You need to have weather. 
You've got to have floods, 

847
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,600
you've got to have disasters 
because that's where you get the

848
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,280
insurance coming into it. 
But then you can see there, 

849
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:07,200
we've moved on now from 
Terracotta Accelerator to 

850
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:11,920
Terracotta Exchange. 
And when you see what's in the 

851
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:17,480
Terracotta Exchange and you can 
see Lloyds and BP and and the 

852
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:21,480
sponsors at the top there. 
But when you go and look up what

853
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,000
the insurance market is like 
that King Charles has got his, 

854
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:29,720
his fingers into, look, I mean 
I've only taken a tiny 

855
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,760
selection. 
These are just, these are just a

856
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,800
few. 
But if you go on to the 

857
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:40,920
Terracotta exchange website, the
amount of insurance companies 

858
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:49,800
and insurance insurers like 
Direct Line, massive companies, 

859
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,440
they're all involved. 
They're literally it. 

860
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:56,560
As you said, it's a web, Brian, 
but it's only when you start to 

861
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,680
get to look into these documents
that you can see how big they 

862
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,480
are. 
But I mean the electrical 

863
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,240
vehicle, the electric vehicle 
services, you know, we're going 

864
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:09,760
into electric cars, We know what
happens with electric cars and 

865
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,160
sadly a lot of them have been 
setting alight and they've been 

866
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,440
on fire. 
So you've got the electric 

867
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,680
vehicle services, we've got 
carbon offset insurance, you've 

868
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,960
got hydrogen insurance. 
I mean, hydrogen's meant to be 

869
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,440
the next big thing coming down 
the line. 

870
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,760
Green endorsements. 
And like I say, these are just 

871
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,400
four. 
These are just four that I've 

872
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,280
taken. 
So there's another funding 

873
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,000
stream for the King insurance. 
Yeah. 

874
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,880
And the insurance can also be 
used as a weapon because of 

875
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,160
course for a lot of companies, a
lot of businesses, a lot of 

876
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,880
professions, if you can't get 
the insurance, you can't 

877
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,920
actually trade, you can't 
function. 

878
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,280
So, and we, we, we know this in 
the legal world that if they 

879
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:57,240
want to get at a barrister or 
get at a a solicitor or a law 

880
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:01,640
firm, what happens is their 
insurance is withdrawn and then 

881
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:06,360
they can't practice. 
So insurers very, very powerful.

882
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:10,400
And another example I can give 
of that is the horrible case 

883
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:14,000
many years ago when there 
there'd been some pretty vile 

884
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,240
child abuse in children's homes 
in North Wales. 

885
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:23,120
And when this came to light, it 
also emerged that the insurers 

886
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:28,240
of that local authority were 
telling elected members of the 

887
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:32,200
council what they could not, 
what they could or could not say

888
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,200
in public. 
Because if they said the wrong 

889
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:40,280
things, they could damage the 
council's defence and that means

890
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,120
they would have to pay out more 
money. 

891
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:46,360
And that money, that risk of 
payout, was covered by the 

892
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,680
insurance companies. 
So ultimately the insurance 

893
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,840
companies, this did appear in 
public reports. 

894
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:57,840
The insurance company concerned 
was was working in the 

895
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,880
background to close down the 
exposure of the abuse of the 

896
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,320
children because they were 
helping protect the risk of the 

897
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,720
council in future compensation 
payouts. 

898
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,800
So if anybody thinks, well yeah,
they're only insurance 

899
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,920
companies, no, these are very 
powerful and very dangerous 

900
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,360
companies because they withdraw 
their cover. 

901
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,320
You can shut down whole sections
of industry and the public 

902
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:27,400
sector. 
But if not just that too, if you

903
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,480
think about, you know the, the 
direction of travel that we're 

904
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,520
going at the moment, 
everything's becoming digital. 

905
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:39,160
So if you're not compliant and 
you're you haven't got access to

906
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,920
your app, to your phone, or to 
whatever you need to get 

907
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,120
insurance, you're not going to 
get, you're not even going to be

908
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,640
able to access insurance, let 
alone get insurance. 

909
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:53,160
And if you're not compliant or 
you haven't been doing what you,

910
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,200
the government, are telling you 
to do, you won't even be offered

911
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,760
insurance. 
And let's face it, a lot of 

912
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,880
people in this in the world, but
especially we're talking about 

913
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,480
the UK here. 
I've got mortgages where they 

914
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:09,200
need buildings, insurance, you 
need car insurance. 

915
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:15,880
So you're right it this is a 
very, very powerful sector and 

916
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:17,720
it could affect every single one
of us. 

917
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,280
But what really concerns me, I 
think more than anything, is 

918
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,240
when all of this goes digital. 
Because then some of us are 

919
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:27,480
going to be locked out of all of
the systems entirely, Yeah. 

920
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,760
Well, let's have a look at at 
England, because allegedly King 

921
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,840
Charles is supposed to have, you
know, England within his 

922
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,240
Kingdom. 
He's supposed to be concerned 

923
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:42,400
for us, but what's he doing with
Cop 28 and Nature? 

924
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:46,040
This whole Natural England 
thing, I mean, you know, we 

925
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:50,960
haven't even started on his 
connections with farming, with 

926
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,360
his younger life. 
When he he was visiting, he was 

927
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,960
going off very quietly and he 
was learning about crofting in 

928
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,880
Scotland. 
He was going all over the place 

929
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,760
actually to learn about organic 
farming, which is why you can 

930
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,160
see what's going on with high 
growth and organic farming. 

931
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:11,840
But Natural England, I think 
we've covered Natural England 

932
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,600
many times. 
Tony Juniper there, the chair of

933
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,600
Natural England, will come on to
him in a minute. 

934
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:21,640
But Natural England have been 
responsible for snatching 

935
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,000
farmland from tenant farmers 
that have been there for 

936
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:29,080
generations, and they've 
snatched land back and grabbed 

937
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:31,400
it. 
Land grabs back in order to 

938
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:35,360
rewild. 
And Tony Juniper has been at the

939
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:40,840
heart of this, literally. 
And Tony Juniper is one of King 

940
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:45,160
Charles's closest allies, 
Closest friends in fact. 

941
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:49,640
They've Co written a number of 
books together, one of which is 

942
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:54,000
a book called Harmony, of which 
I've got a copy and I've read it

943
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:58,680
and you'll see that he, he calls
it actually a new way of looking

944
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:03,640
at our world and it's it's Co 
written by the the King as he 

945
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:09,040
was then the Prince of Wales, 
Tony Juniper and Ian Skelly. 

946
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:13,600
And I would say to be honest 
that this is the blueprint for 

947
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:19,280
what we're seeing now, this 
whole worshipping nature, the 

948
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:23,920
environment, sustainability. 
He also talks in the book about 

949
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:29,520
Transition Towns, which is the, 
I guess just before the 15 

950
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,440
minutes city concept was really 
launched. 

951
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:36,360
But Transition Towns and how 
many places down here in the 

952
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,240
Southwest actually have been 
involved in that? 

953
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:43,840
Totnes, Falmouth, many places 
down here in Cornwall. 

954
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:48,760
So a very revealing book. 
And for anybody that hasn't read

955
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:53,880
Harmony, like I say, it's very 
revealing, but he's a prolific 

956
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,320
author. 
You know, King Charles has just 

957
01:05:56,320 --> 01:06:00,720
written another climate change 
book with the very same 

958
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:08,920
gentleman, Tony Juniper, again, 
So Climate Change with Ladybird,

959
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,120
I believe this one's coming out 
so. 

960
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:12,680
Yeah. 
I'll just add that we're not 

961
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:15,760
plugging, we're not plugging 
Amazon, not showing the book. 

962
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,240
That's just one of the one of 
the places. 

963
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,960
But I I've got a suspicion does 
does King Charles do everything 

964
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,240
he does and write all these 
books? 

965
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,320
I I think what happens is he has
a, well, it's not even a ghost 

966
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,640
writer. 
He has a partner that does most 

967
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:35,600
of it and then he puts the royal
pen stroke in all the key 

968
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:38,640
expressions, or he edits the 
draft. 

969
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,520
That's how I think it works, 
because I don't think he sat 

970
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:46,080
there with original stuff coming
out of his own head. 

971
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,560
No. 
Although although he is very 

972
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:54,560
learned and there's a lot of, 
there's a lot of what's it 

973
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:59,600
called, Sacred geometry in the 
book, a lot of it. 

974
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,320
And he's very knowledgeable on 
it. 

975
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:05,440
He's studied a lot. 
So whilst I would say yes, he's 

976
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,280
got other people to write and 
and contribute to the book, I 

977
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:12,320
think, I think a lot of it is 
actually penned by him. 

978
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:17,720
It's said that he works until 
midnight every night, He gets up

979
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,480
very early in the morning, he 
doesn't stop for lunch, He's 

980
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:25,480
pretty much a workaholic and 
he's obsessed, literally driven.

981
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,200
He's, he's written a lot of 
books. 

982
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:32,560
He's read a lot of books. 
And he says that, you know, he 

983
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,600
he likes nothing more than to 
sit in one of his beautifully 

984
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:40,000
manicured gardens, often 
manicured by Miriam Rothschild. 

985
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:44,400
But that's for another no smoke.
And he reads. 

986
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,400
So he is very well read and he 
is very learned and he's an 

987
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,400
intelligent man. 
He's a businessman and he's got 

988
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:55,960
a lot of money at his hands at 
his disposal. 

989
01:07:56,360 --> 01:08:00,480
OK. 
I I think Debbie we could manage

990
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,360
another 10 minutes. 
I've said that. 

991
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:07,080
I'll see whether there's a shout
from from Stephanie that we 

992
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,320
can't do that. 
But I I think we do another 10 

993
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:14,000
minutes and that's that's 
probably a good episode that 

994
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,319
we've done today. 
I know you're itching because 

995
01:08:16,319 --> 01:08:19,319
you you've got so much stuff to 
share with the audience. 

996
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,319
But I I think it is good to be 
able to work through it and have

997
01:08:23,319 --> 01:08:27,760
some discussion about it and you
know to put some context into 

998
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,160
some of these things as as 
opposed to just getting, you 

999
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,720
know, raw images through the 
screen. 

1000
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:38,680
So I I think the the discussion 
is necessary and you always add 

1001
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:43,080
some some really good points. 
So let's let's squeeze in 10 

1002
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,760
minutes and see where that takes
us. 

1003
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:49,560
But we are saying to the 
audience, there's tons more to 

1004
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,960
come about. 
This man and what he's really up

1005
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:53,880
to, I mean. 
Look. 

1006
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:55,920
There's. 
There's let's give them a little

1007
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,960
taster, Brian. 
I mean, we we, we haven't really

1008
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:05,840
looked at the investiture. 
We haven't looked at the farming

1009
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:10,240
that he's been doing so much of.
There's there's his personal 

1010
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:14,600
life, his friends, his 
associates. 

1011
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,120
You know, these are all the 
things that I've been looking 

1012
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,000
into. 
So there's there's a lot more to

1013
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,359
come, a lot more to come. 
But I noticed. 

1014
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:25,600
No, let's let's go back to his 
book because A King, a climate 

1015
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,279
change book for kids and 
Cambridge 0. 

1016
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,880
So there you've got the 
University of Cambridge 

1017
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:37,920
supporting His Majesty talking 
about the World Economic Forum 

1018
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:41,080
as well there. 
And it it says His Majesty has 

1019
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,880
been an environmental leader for
over 50 years. 

1020
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:48,720
This reiterates your point that 
if people think this man was 

1021
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:53,800
just some sort of eccentric sat 
in the background pontificating 

1022
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:58,800
on the beauty of architecture or
the right architecture, no, this

1023
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,600
man has been up to this game for
up for this game for a very long

1024
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,360
time. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

1025
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,400
And he's not done it alone, you 
know. 

1026
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,280
And we're we're just touched. 
Shall we just touch? 

1027
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,040
Members of. 
His family, Yeah. 

1028
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,640
We'll just touch your members of
family because he hasn't done it

1029
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,480
alone. 
And you have to think to 

1030
01:10:18,480 --> 01:10:22,240
yourself, well, who do you trust
in your family, you know, that 

1031
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:26,120
can bring in the money that's 
got a good, maybe a good 

1032
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,920
sociable personality that likes 
to go out and about. 

1033
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,560
I mean, he's got the perfect 
brother, hasn't he? 

1034
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:37,640
Or did have in Prince Andrew who
was known as you know very 

1035
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:43,640
sociable very gregarious bit of 
a the sales Rep I I call him the

1036
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:49,080
sales Rep of of the royal family
and you know what was he doing 

1037
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:52,960
as UK trade envoy that's going 
to be kept secret by the British

1038
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:56,880
government until 2065. 
We don't know. 

1039
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:02,800
We don't know what Prince Andrew
has been doing, but we do know 

1040
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,200
that there has been. 
But there's certainly a 

1041
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:13,360
biographer that wants to write a
book about Prince Andrew, and he

1042
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:18,440
submitted a Freedom of 
Information Act request to the 

1043
01:11:18,440 --> 01:11:22,360
Foreign Office, but got told 
that all the documents 

1044
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,720
pertaining to Andrew's role as 
trade envoy were going to be 

1045
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:30,000
kept secret until 2065. 
That's 100 and five years after 

1046
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,120
Andrew's birth. 
So this is breaking with 

1047
01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:36,400
tradition completely. 
So we're never going to know 

1048
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:40,400
what Prince Andrew was doing or 
where he was getting the money 

1049
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,880
from or where the money was 
going. 

1050
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,480
We'll never know. 
But of course what we do know 

1051
01:11:46,480 --> 01:11:52,840
now is that Prince Andrew had a 
lot of dealings with Jeffrey 

1052
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:57,640
Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, 
and there was a lot of money 

1053
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:02,160
there too. 
So you have to ask yourself 

1054
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:06,880
what, what kind of money was 
going to the royal family? 

1055
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,920
And then when it did go to the 
royal family, where was it 

1056
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,480
going? 
Was Andrew collecting on behalf 

1057
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:16,960
of his elder brother? 
I'm I'm not saying that he was. 

1058
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:21,000
I'm just throwing it out there 
for people to to ask the 

1059
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,360
question because I I don't know 
the answer. 

1060
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,320
But what's interesting about 
Ghislaine Maxwell is we come 

1061
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:31,000
back to the word terror again. 
Terror Mar because she had the 

1062
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:35,240
she founded the Terra Mar 
project in 2012 for the 

1063
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,080
conservation of the Seas. 
And you've just seen in the 

1064
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:44,720
Terra Carta that the then Prince
of Wales, now King, wants to 

1065
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:51,200
return 30% of the ocean, 30% of 
the land back to biodiversity. 

1066
01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:55,440
And the Maxwells were pouring a 
lot of money into it. 

1067
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:59,600
And I went into company's house 
to look at Terra Mar. 

1068
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,880
Obviously since the arrest of 
and the imprisonment of 

1069
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,000
Ghislaine Maxwell it has been 
dissolved. 

1070
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:13,000
But there you can see the 
company's house entry for it. 

1071
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:17,160
So you just the The thing is 
when you start to do a bit of 

1072
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:21,080
research and you start to look 
at things, you end up with more 

1073
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:24,840
questions than you do answers. 
And you think, well, where where

1074
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:30,320
is all this money coming from? 
Was Prince Andrew fundraising 

1075
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:36,040
for his brother's empire this 
sustainable initiatives. 

1076
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:40,240
Terra Carter. 
Astra Carter is is Charles the 

1077
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,800
saviour of the world? 
I don't know. 

1078
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:45,640
That's a good place to end on 
Debbie. 

1079
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,160
Let's just put the picture up on
screen so that people know what 

1080
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:53,600
we're talking about. 
Apologise for using ABBC image 

1081
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,920
here, but Prince Charles, the 
winged hero, he's he's the 

1082
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,680
winged hero saving the world and
he's going to become the 

1083
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:06,760
centrepiece as a giant bronze 
statue of a remote Amazonian 

1084
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,320
town. 
And he was actually shown a 

1085
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,400
picture of this before it was 
produced and asked whether he 

1086
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,280
was happy with it. 
And he he said yes. 

1087
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,880
So it's Prince Charles. 
With what? 

1088
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,960
The wings of an Angel? 
We've actually got some more 

1089
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,200
pictures. 
Maybe we'll come on to the the 

1090
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:28,240
pictures in detail next time. 
But what was said about this 

1091
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:32,640
Mauricio Bentes, which was the 
sculptor who sculpted this 

1092
01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:39,280
angelic statue of of Charles and
it's his face, You know, when 

1093
01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,480
you look at it, it is, it is 
him, it is his face. 

1094
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,280
And when you see the whole 
statue, you see these massive 

1095
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:52,080
wings, and then he's got a 
loincloth on and he's standing 

1096
01:14:52,080 --> 01:15:00,080
or overarching a hill that's 
covered in skulls and he 

1097
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,600
dominates it, You know, it's 
extraordinary. 

1098
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:08,400
So one of these statues has been
erected in the rainforest. 

1099
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:13,520
One was presented to him, a 
small one was presented to him 

1100
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:17,080
by the sculpture and he was 
extremely pleased to receive it,

1101
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,360
by the way, and delighted with 
it. 

1102
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:27,080
And then Tim Cohen, who's done a
lot of work on Charles and and 

1103
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:31,600
and the history behind King 
Charles, he's heard that there 

1104
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:35,720
is a life-size or even bigger 10
cubic cubits, I think. 

1105
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:41,160
Is the size another one that's 
meant to be being put on top of 

1106
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:44,520
the Third Temple if it's erected
in Israel? 

1107
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:49,240
So I'm just saying what I've 
heard and I'm just repeating 

1108
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:53,520
what I've seen. 
But again, who knows? 

1109
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:57,840
Brian, is he the saviour of the 
world or does he think he's the 

1110
01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:59,520
saviour of the world? 
I don't. 

1111
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:03,040
Personally, I think he's he's 
the saviour of the world, but I 

1112
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:04,760
don't think he's the saviour of 
the world. 

1113
01:16:05,440 --> 01:16:10,520
Debbie, let's end there. 
It been a fascinating chat 

1114
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,680
through just part of the 
information that that you've 

1115
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:17,800
assembled to do with King 
Charles, the 3rd and and the 

1116
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:21,240
Royal Family. 
I'm going to say to the audience

1117
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,040
thank you very much for joining 
us. 

1118
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:27,440
Don't be shy if you've got 
comments, you've got information

1119
01:16:27,440 --> 01:16:30,800
or you've got things that you 
think that we should Debbie and 

1120
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,560
I should should be interested 
in, then get in touch, e-mail it

1121
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:38,240
through and also we'd say to 
you, please also give us 

1122
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:42,360
feedback on what we're doing. 
Do you think it's important? 

1123
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:46,200
Is the subject important? 
We'd really like to know not 

1124
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:50,480
only from UK column members 
whether we're hitting the spot, 

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but we'd also like to know from 
people who aren't yet UK column 

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members whether what we're 
saying is important for the not 

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only the people in UK, but 
obviously people in people 

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worldwide. 
You need to understand what this

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man is really up to and what's 
coming down the pipeline, 

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Debbie. 
And there's more. 

1131
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:16,520
There's more. 
Yeah, let's end there. 

1132
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:18,960
Thank you very much for that 
contribution. 

1133
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:22,840
Thank you very much to everybody
who's joined us today for this 

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episode. 
And do give us that feedback 

1135
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:30,480
because that helps us enormously
see whether we're hitting the 

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01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:33,120
right spot. 
So we'll leave it there. 

1137
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:34,160
Thank you. 
Bye. 

1138
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:35,920
Bye. 
Bye, bye.