1 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:40,280 None. You sound epic with that reverb 2 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,840 that's on your voice. So for anyone who's wondering 3 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,440 why your reverb is on me doing it. 4 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,280 Thanks for drawing attention to that. 5 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,520 Actually, at the end of the show, Jeremy and I have planned 6 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,720 a little little singing audition. 7 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,680 So that's why, you know, we want to spice it up a little bit. 8 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,320 You know, these talk shows are so boring. 9 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:01,200 People just talk and talk and talk, you know? 10 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,520 We were just talking a moment ago, Hakim. 11 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:15,880 So above phone was kind enough to send me this quantum. 12 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,280 What do you call it? Laptop notebook? 13 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,680 I don't know what the correct term is. 14 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:27,000 It is a beast of a machine. It runs Linux, your version 15 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,240 privacy orientated. It's completely secure. 16 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,400 I mean, it's a great machine. Jeremy yeah. 17 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,400 And you're, you are our first South African customer. 18 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,080 I want to say. Yeah, you probably are. 19 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:50,680 And yes, so our our privacy notebook, a privacy laptop, one 20 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:55,680 that's fully equipped to do local AI, so you can run really 21 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,960 large AI models on that machine. And some people might be 22 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,200 resistant to that. Some people might be excited 23 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,680 about that. We could, we could talk about 24 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,560 that. But it's essentially like a 25 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:12,320 gaming laptop with a privacy oriented operating system that 26 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,800 we wrote. It's based off of Arch Linux for 27 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:18,920 for those of you that use Linux, that's the one where, yeah, 28 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:20,080 what? I mean, what do you think about 29 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,760 it, Jeremy? Well I love the the fact that 30 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,960 you got NVIDIA and AMD. What are those Ryzen? 31 00:02:28,920 --> 00:02:30,840 I don't know what any of this stuff is because I work mostly 32 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,480 on Apple, but I'm guessing this is all good quality stuff. 33 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,920 Definitely. And I mean, it's kind of, you 34 00:02:38,920 --> 00:02:43,080 know, it's kind of was a good play in our book because we, we 35 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,480 were, we've been develop, developing this laptop since 36 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,120 back in September. And you know, we, we made the 37 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,440 acquisitions and now the prices for graphics cards and, and 38 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,880 solid-state drives and RAM is just skyrocket. 39 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,360 I mean, it's, it's crazy. It's like going vertical because 40 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,680 of this AI data centre grab. So it's like Jerome, you got to 41 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,400 carve your own slice. You got your own personal data 42 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,840 centre right there before they all get bought up so well. 43 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,320 You mentioned AI. Yeah, you mentioned AI. 44 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,440 I'm quite a fan, I think. I think the unbridled paranoia 45 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:21,320 is is probably unwarranted because like anything that's 46 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:25,920 tech based Hakim, it's a tool can be used for good and for 47 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:32,000 bad. 100% I, I couldn't, I couldn't agree more. 48 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,680 And I think we just got to get in that habit, which I, I think, 49 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,360 I think when you connect with your audience, you, you try to 50 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:40,960 get them to see the nuance and things. 51 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:45,880 And there's a lot of nuance with, with AII mean it could, it 52 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,520 could really take care of a lot of monotonous work. 53 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,680 Now, the problem is most people don't know this, but every time 54 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:59,480 you run a cloud AI query through Google or Open AI, there's been 55 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,120 analysis. There's was a Stanford study 56 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,880 here in the US showing the water usage every time you run that 57 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:10,080 query that uses up about a bottle of water this big, like 58 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:11,960 literally it costs that bottle of water. 59 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,079 So there, there are some supreme consequences too for using the 60 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,880 AI and we should just know that getting into it. 61 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,600 So This is why we encourage people to use local AI or 62 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,360 there's no water being used. When you use a local AI on your 63 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,440 computer, it's blowing, it's it's handling the heat with air 64 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:32,680 and it's pushing it out with a fan. 65 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,080 There's no water involved, right? 66 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,880 So there's this little difference that happens. 67 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:44,360 Well, you asked me what I think of it and it is quite a beast. 68 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,800 I have played with it. The battery's run flat and I 69 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,200 can't charge it. Why? 70 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,280 Because you sent me an American plug. 71 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,840 You're giving me a moment of self reflection here and it's 72 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:06,000 like we should really offer an international adapter for 73 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,600 people. We really should just do it. 74 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,760 I'm glad, I'm glad you got it. I'm glad it came in one piece. 75 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,440 And that must have been quite a feeling, right? 76 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,320 You're like getting into the laptop. 77 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,520 You're using it and then it's like I'm going to die. 78 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,760 The plugs make so much more sense to me. 79 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,560 I was just telling you a moment ago. 80 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,600 It's smaller. This is way better than whatever 81 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,120 we use. I think we use some sort of 82 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,000 British. I don't know what is this? 83 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,680 What do we use in South Africa? It's like a British European 84 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,440 hybrid. It's very big and clunky. 85 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:39,480 Your. Plugs are. 86 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,960 So much better. We should, we should name and 87 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,200 shame the person who came up with a 240 Volt standard. 88 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:51,360 Like I'm, I'm honestly curious. I've spent some time in the UK 89 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:56,960 and it's like, yeah, it's like you look at the plug in a room 90 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,960 and it's always front and centre. 91 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,680 Like it's like the showpiece of the room. 92 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,640 It's that. It's huge. 93 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:08,080 It's like wall art. Your your plug is similar to 94 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,040 what I saw when I was in China. China's got two different plugs 95 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,680 depending on where you are in the country and it uses this 96 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,640 same kind of what do you call this? 97 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,920 Like this, these thin little things, these these two bottom. 98 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,200 Prongs. Prongs are thin. 99 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:30,240 That makes more way more sense. Yeah, but you said they had two 100 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,360 kinds. So how do you know which 101 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,520 electronics to buy in in China like? 102 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,720 I just got both. Yeah, I had both with me. 103 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,400 I, I want to go to China this year. 104 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,000 By the way, Jeremy, we should talk about that affair, but I, I 105 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,120 want to go check it out. Yeah, if you go, I'll go with 106 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,480 you. It is. 107 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:58,360 It's an incredible country. But if we're talking privacy and 108 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,000 China, this is a, this is a very complicated conversation to 109 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,560 have. But having said that, having 110 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,120 said that, privacy actually is a complicated conversation 111 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,720 everywhere in the world, which is precisely why you guys have 112 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:19,320 brought out privacy driven tech. Oh, I mean, I, it's, it's a 113 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,200 really golden moment for me, Jeremy, because it's something 114 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,920 I've been warning about since the beginning of 20/20/2019. 115 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,880 And I think people were kind of dismissing it. 116 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:35,120 And now it's like the, you know, what do they say? 117 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,320 Chickens come home to roost. It's like, yeah, it's like, it's 118 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,120 like everywhere. It's in our cars. 119 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:44,560 Our our cars are spying on us and reporting to our insurance 120 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,960 providers. We have a unified surveillance 121 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,960 system here in the US Recent big news is that the Ring doorbells 122 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,440 from Amazon, you know, the little doorbells that watch you 123 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,960 when you come. So those are now plugging in 124 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,080 with the Flock camera system, which is in almost every town in 125 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,680 the United States. So now those two companies are 126 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:10,200 sharing data together at this new era of unified surveillance. 127 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,080 And it's yeah, it's I'm like, Yep, told you so. 128 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,200 But what the good news is that a lot of people are waking up to 129 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,680 it and interested in privacy. Now we were talking, we just 130 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:27,000 mentioned local AI and I, I know a lot of people have mixed 131 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,720 feelings on AI. Even my own following, when I 132 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,159 decided to do this webinar empowerment with ethical local 133 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:35,840 and Private AI had a lot of messages that came out saying, 134 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,520 are you going to talk about how it's destroying children's 135 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,360 minds? Are you going to talk about how 136 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,679 it's destroying the environment? I said, yes, let's, let's, let's 137 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,800 talk about it actually. So I, I think you'll appreciate 138 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,720 that there is a lot of nuance here, right? 139 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,680 All these, these data centers, which are gigantic, how they are 140 00:08:52,680 --> 00:08:55,920 going to impact your life, how AI is truly going to impact our 141 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,080 life. And even with that being said, 142 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:04,000 to still find a way to use it as a tool to still find a way to 143 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,160 use it to benefit your life. After all, so much money was was 144 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,120 poured into this. If there is a way to get some 145 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,640 benefit out of it, we should know how. 146 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:16,760 So you can find this webinar on learn.abovephone.com. 147 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,440 It's free. All I ask for is your e-mail and 148 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,080 you could watch all these clips. So definitely do that and maybe 149 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:29,320 that'll get you prepared to get the same awesome workstation 150 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,760 that jeremyisusing@abovephone.com/germ. 151 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,240 Well, I'm not using it. I'm not using it right now 152 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:42,960 because the battery's flat. Maybe, maybe if you yeah, go 153 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,800 ahead. No, I was going to say, so I'm 154 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,880 looking at your icons on your screen there and I that is your, 155 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,560 that is your sort of visual design also. 156 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:57,560 Yes, we can't take all of the credit the so the themes are so 157 00:09:57,560 --> 00:10:00,600 this is a really cool thing about the software we we've 158 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:06,680 chosen for above book this this is based on Arch Linux and the 159 00:10:06,680 --> 00:10:11,720 reason why Arch Linux is is cool is because it has something 160 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,120 called the Arch user repository, which is a single place that 161 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,680 anyone can package software for other people to use so. 162 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,080 It's like it's like the App Store. 163 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,680 It's like the App Store, but instead of Apple or Google 164 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,480 trying to nickel and dime everyone to use it and having 165 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,120 control and everything, it's just regular, every regular 166 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,360 nerds publishing software for the people. 167 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:40,000 So it's like if you if you look up software on here, you're 168 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,240 going to find it like, so you might think that on Linux, I 169 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,280 can't use Spotify even, you know, even though that they 170 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:52,760 protect Israel's crimes and, you know, censor activists on their 171 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,680 platform. But you could if you really 172 00:10:54,680 --> 00:10:56,800 wanted to. You might think that I couldn't 173 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:01,560 get Microsoft Teams. Oh hold on, you can't get 174 00:11:01,560 --> 00:11:03,080 Microsoft Teams. You just have to know what to 175 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,080 search. Portal for Teams, here we go. 176 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,440 Unofficial Microsoft Teams client for Linux. 177 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:12,160 So a lot of people port software so that it can be used on Linux, 178 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,840 and Arch Linux is the easiest way to actually use it. 179 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,200 You say Arch Linux, but I mean Arch Any. 180 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,080 If anybody knows anything about about Linux, Arch is one of the 181 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,400 more complicated, what do you call it? 182 00:11:26,680 --> 00:11:30,640 Distros. Yeah, it isn't. 183 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,640 It isn't. It is if you, it's just so 184 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,760 different than other distributions. 185 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,720 So it's like usually when you start your Linux journey, you'll 186 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:43,920 start with a Ubuntu or something Debian based, which is uses a 187 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:48,960 long term release model. And what that basically means is 188 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:53,200 the the core packages on the system, they only get updated 189 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,880 once every few years. And it's a it's a massive 190 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,120 change. So when it's time for that new 191 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,600 long term update, you actually go through this process of 192 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,640 migrating everything and updating to the next version of 193 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,000 the OS. That's kind of scary for people. 194 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,960 Arch Linux is different it seems. 195 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,760 It seems more complex at first, but really it's a rolling 196 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,560 release sistro. So all the software on the 197 00:12:17,560 --> 00:12:19,400 computer gets updated at one time. 198 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,760 That includes the apps too. So the beauty of using Arch 199 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,120 Linux and our our version of Arch Linux called above OS is 200 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,280 that every single one of the programs on the computer is 201 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,760 constantly getting updated. It's getting better. 202 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,760 If you want to update, you can also choose not to update. 203 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:39,120 But this means things gets fixed, things you're getting new 204 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,600 features all the time and things just get work. 205 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,600 Things work. So it's it's a really great 206 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,840 experience. And it's fast. 207 00:12:51,560 --> 00:12:54,160 It is fast, man. Yeah, I mean, and so you're, 208 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:57,040 you're a Mac world. What, what would you say kind of 209 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:01,800 the responsiveness feels like a Mac versus this, this, you know, 210 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,160 to it's a very nice highly equipped Linux device, but what 211 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,280 would you say, how would you compare it? 212 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,120 No, it certainly seems on par speed wise. 213 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:19,320 It look, it takes getting used to because the, you know, the 214 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,200 way in which you operate is different, but I think the 215 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,400 principles are the same. And you know, you know that 216 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,440 there's no spyware, nothing can tap into the machine, and 217 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,080 there's a lot of security. There's so yeah, one of the 218 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,000 first things you have to do when you get your computer is, is you 219 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,880 actually change your encryption password on your computer. 220 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:44,320 And and I know there's a lot of smart people following Jeremy. 221 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:46,840 So I know a lot of you guys know about full disk encryption. 222 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,000 So I'm saying this for the people who don't know about it, 223 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,840 but if you don't have full disk encryption on your computer, if 224 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,320 someone gets their hands on your computer, they can literally 225 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,400 pull everything off it. They can literally log into your 226 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:00,560 account. It's it's actually not that hard 227 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:04,560 to do so at at the very least your computer needs full disk 228 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:06,880 encryption. And so when you get the above 229 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,200 book, the first thing you do is you change your full disk 230 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,040 encryption password so it is secured from other people and 231 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,880 hands on stuff. There's another thing I wanted 232 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,000 to mention. There's a lot of really small 233 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,440 beautiful things. My team showed me this one the 234 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:21,400 other day. Check the set room. 235 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,480 So I'm trying to tell you the temperature in the United 236 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,680 States. I can literally say, what is it 237 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,120 today? It's like pretty cold. 238 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:37,560 It's 40 in Celsius Celsius. Yes, because you Americans use 239 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,200 the imperial system. This is so funny. 240 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,080 It's a brand new feature. It's a brand new feature. 241 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,400 So. So I'm going to have to update 242 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,840 this demo laptop that I didn't, that I haven't updated for quite 243 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:49,960 some time. Yeah. 244 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,040 Americans, we use Imperial. It makes sense to our brains. 245 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,320 It's the foot. We actually measure feet. 246 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,280 I would put my feet on camera to show you feet are roughly the 247 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,440 same size as foot. I'm just kidding. 248 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,520 They're not. I don't know why we do that. 249 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,440 It would make sense if there was consistency. 250 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:18,160 So in the metric system, if something is 0°, it's freezing 251 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,080 cold and anything below 0 would be below freezing. 252 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,600 But what is freezing in Fahrenheit? 253 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:34,960 It's 30 degrees 00. Hey, it's not that. 254 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,920 It's not that bad. Wait, wait, wait. 255 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,160 What is boiling? What is the? 256 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:39,720 What is? What is inside in? 257 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:44,960 In metric it is 100°. I know that's so simple. 258 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,800 It's so simple. It's at 212° and. 259 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,560 Well, why wouldn't it be? Look, I don't have to worry 260 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,680 about that if I'm using my kettle. 261 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,880 I just crank that baby all the way up, you know, all the way 262 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:03,320 until and and, you know, I think that's bit of American 263 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,840 mentality. We just crank it all the way up. 264 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,960 I mean. Look to be fair though in the 265 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,280 inches. Inches is a weird one. 266 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,440 I think the only time inches really makes sense is is when 267 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,280 you're, you know, talking about the size of your junk. 268 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,800 Then you don't want centimeters or millimeters. 269 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,000 Exactly. I think, I think the whole world 270 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,120 should adopt inches. Me personally, inches and feet 271 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,920 to talk about our heights. There's no more. 272 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,480 Let's not do this, all right? Yeah. 273 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,760 My, my homie is 180 centimeters. You're making your homies sound 274 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,480 small centimeters. Or you can use decimeters. 275 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,520 Like honestly. So, Hakeem, one of the 276 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:52,560 advantages of using Linux is so I know that you said Linux, but 277 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,320 I can't wrap that around saying Linux. 278 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,040 I just said Linux because it's, it's, it rolls off the tongue a 279 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:04,079 little bit easier. One of the advantages is that it 280 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:06,480 has become simpler over the years. 281 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,640 I mean, it was a horrible, horrible experience 10 years 282 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,839 ago. I remember using Ubuntu around 283 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:17,520 2012 and, and it was, there's a lot of marketing around it, you 284 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,160 know, in the, in the geek community, but it was still very 285 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,119 broken. It required a lot of tinkering 286 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:30,120 and and it just for me became frustrating at the time. 287 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,120 Yeah, I I was just quickly looking up. 288 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,560 Linus would be probably closer to the correct pronunciation 289 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:46,600 because the Linus Tory Waltz, who created Linux, was named 290 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,640 after a cartoon character in Peanuts. 291 00:17:49,120 --> 00:17:52,000 So, you know, Charlie Brown was named after a character. 292 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:58,480 So just wanted to say that. And you're right, Linux has been 293 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,840 traditionally a lot harder to use. 294 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,400 But things started changing around 10 years ago where 295 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,840 developers started to hit their stride. 296 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,400 There's all these, you know, technology was evolving so fast 297 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,480 and I think we reached a level of stability where a lot of 298 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:21,240 developers at the time decided to put their time into to Linux 299 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,160 as a passion project. So you had all these amazing 300 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,320 desktop environments, which actually this is, this is what 301 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,280 you're seeing. An above book is all the stuff 302 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:35,400 that won me over to Linux. For instance, things like 303 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,040 virtual desktops they had over 12 years ago. 304 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,800 Microsoft added this in the like the in the past two years. 305 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,720 It's crazy how far behind Microsoft was because the open 306 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,000 source community, they're just far more creative. 307 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,120 They're just, they're, they're more creative. 308 00:18:52,120 --> 00:18:56,720 There's more features. Their focus is on use, putting 309 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,080 developing things they'd actually use instead of spyware 310 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,600 and things for corporations and things that can remotely manage 311 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,320 your computer. So that's a night and day 312 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,640 difference and you feel it. And because it is just focused 313 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,280 on creativity and nice features, there's less bloat. 314 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:17,720 So if if you have a older computer at home, it might be 315 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,680 something to try. It's kind of looking like it's 316 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:24,400 on its last legs. You might try installing Linux 317 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,080 on it and you'll see it'll it'll come into a new form. 318 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:32,080 I have a article on our educational initiative, Take 319 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,480 Back Our Tech. If you look at the operating 320 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:40,960 system section, Installing the Linux from Scratch to Save the 321 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,600 World, which is actually Linux from Scratch is actually a 322 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,960 distribution. And people, people who know it 323 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,760 hate me for for titling this tutorial this way. 324 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,280 They're like, it's not Linux from scratch. 325 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:59,400 Well, it is Linux from scratch. So you can go through and and 326 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,640 install. It just walks you through the 327 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,640 process. All you need is the USB drive 328 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,440 and you can install Linux. On any of your computers. 329 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:15,840 Why would I use Linux? Well, there's, you know, there's 330 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,480 push and pull factors. One of the things is Windows 331 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,040 Update, I'm sure. I think everyone that has at 332 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:27,760 least one story where they were working on something important 333 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,400 and Windows just started updating on its own. 334 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,560 You know, especially in the last few years where you don't even 335 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,000 have a choice anymore. And it's like update now or 336 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,960 update in four hours and you're, you're kind of hostage. 337 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,320 So, yeah, this, this computer doesn't stop randomly, right? 338 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,400 It's, it's doing what you tell, tell it to. 339 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,120 There's no agenda that is following. 340 00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:54,560 You're in control. You're you are in control. 341 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:55,560 Yeah, that's a good way to put it. 342 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,080 And so you're in control and that's the security. 343 00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:05,000 You know, there's a big security measure in there. 344 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,480 It's not just privacy. It's also security. 345 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:12,120 Because if Microsoft wanted to roll out a new update where 346 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,840 they're watching you at all times, they do it. 347 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,080 There's nothing you can do about it, right? 348 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,160 So your computer computing experience can change 349 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,840 dramatically. And it has, you know, Cortana, 350 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,280 Copilot, all of these things came as a result of forced 351 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,480 updates. So it just cuts you off from a 352 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,000 dark future ahead for computing. Yeah. 353 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,200 And you and I have spoken about the dark future head, I mean 354 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:40,800 digital ID surveillance and and the other thing is the 355 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,640 subscription model, I mean that doesn't really exist in Linux, 356 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,120 does it? Yeah, absolutely. 357 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,480 Where you have own, go ahead, you own your software. 358 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:57,240 You own your software and in many cases on Arch Linux, you're 359 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,640 actually building your software from scratch. 360 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,760 You're building your software. So so just to explain what that 361 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:08,840 means, you know, most of the time you download yeah, so so 362 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,160 you build your own software as well on above book, which 363 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,720 basically means you take it from its raw code and perform the 364 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:20,320 steps necessary to get it to become a usable program on 365 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:25,080 different operating systems like Microsoft and or Apple. 366 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,480 You're buying pre built packages. 367 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,880 So you have no idea what those programs actually do. 368 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,840 They're pre built, someone built it for you. 369 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,560 And and so it's just shift from absolving all of your 370 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,320 responsibility to Microsoft or Apple, who then charge you for 371 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,880 the privilege of buying software like 5 bucks or maybe 5 bucks a 372 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,000 year. And they're slowly trying to 373 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,920 push you in this direction where you owe nothing and you'll be 374 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:56,920 happy. And the the RAM shortages we're 375 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,760 experiencing right now perfectly plays into that. 376 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,560 Powerful computers are about to, they are going up into price. 377 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,320 They already have already. What does that mean? 378 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,240 We're all going to be using things on the cloud. 379 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,680 So people who have built gaming computers in the past, this was 380 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,200 one of my pastimes when I was a teenager. 381 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,000 They might not be able to do that again. 382 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,040 They might have to sign into a Microsoft gaming account to play 383 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,360 video games. And all of that processing 384 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,200 happens on a cloud data center, not on their computer. 385 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,520 They don't own. They don't even own the right to 386 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,240 game anymore. It's very, very sad. 387 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,400 But cloud computing is not necessarily bad either. 388 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:44,080 I mean I don't want to have my laptop stolen or my phone stolen 389 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:49,120 and lose all my data. Yeah. 390 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:55,880 Well, so yeah, it's, it's it's, it's interesting is if you can 391 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,840 trust your cloud provider, it thinks you know. 392 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:00,640 Would you create your own cloud though? 393 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,680 You can create your own cloud. You can, you can, you can create 394 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,440 your own cloud and that's, and that's the safest way, right? 395 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,080 Because it's in this day and age, there's always going to be 396 00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:17,800 data compromises and even the biggest companies have these. 397 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,480 So if you're, if you're hosting something important like a 398 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,120 password vault, you just have to know that. 399 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:27,240 All right, if I'm saving this to the cloud, there it is. 400 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,040 I hope nothing happens to that company on on above book. 401 00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:34,160 There are ways to do everything local first. 402 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,000 So we have a password manager built in which integrates with 403 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,400 the web browser. It's really easy to use and that 404 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,280 is saved on a file on your computer. 405 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,040 Now you can use different pieces of software like there's this 406 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,480 one called sync thing to sync it between your phone and your 407 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,280 computer and you can do that on your own. 408 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,560 And this requires no third party. 409 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,920 So as as these institutions begin to fail more, I think I 410 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,880 think people will step into the self responsibility of of their 411 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,200 tech. And that's really what we want 412 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,960 to champion. We've been focusing on laptops, 413 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,080 but I mean phones actually are used more than laptops. 414 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,160 They are. Are you also on an iPhone, 415 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,840 Jeremy? I am. 416 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,560 Has there anything been that's been like weird to you over the 417 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,440 past few years that kind of like rubbed you the wrong way or 418 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,720 interfere with your life at all? Or mainly shell. 419 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,240 I don't like, I don't know if this has to do with the iPhone 420 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:41,440 per SE, but I don't like the fact that you get ads popping up 421 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,320 depending on where you go on the Internet and somehow they're 422 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,920 connected to a conversation that you had. 423 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,680 So you're noticing that you're noticing that it's listening to 424 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:52,920 you. Yes. 425 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:59,520 Yeah, yeah, that's, that's one of the the worst things about 426 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,000 phones is that, you know, could, because these things are so 427 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,320 close to us. There's these massive 428 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,920 advertising networks and they're tracking you on your phone. 429 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,600 They're tracking the conversations. 430 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,880 You know, we, we get to hear from our customers and, and most 431 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,040 of our customers who switched to above Phone were sick of this. 432 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:23,640 They're sick of getting the really personalized ads and so 433 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,720 on. Above phone, which is our 434 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,600 privacy phone project, there are no ads. 435 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,000 There's literally no ads the because it's not running Google 436 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,280 Services, which is the entity responsible for serving ads on 437 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,000 Android phones. There's just no ads. 438 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,520 If you go on a website, you may see ads if the website has put 439 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,560 it there, but there's no phone wide advertising system. 440 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,560 And boy, that is such a lift to your stability of mind. 441 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,240 It gives you Peace of Mind and I think every device should be 442 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,880 like that, right? Ads should never be forced on 443 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,760 people. But you can also remove those a. 444 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:08,240 100 percent, 100% you can and we, yeah and and there's you can 445 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,920 use browser extensions and and so on above book you'll see it 446 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:18,480 is doing that, which is really nice on our on our VPN, we offer 447 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,480 AVPN as as well. It's through our suite of 448 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,400 privacy services. If you use that VPN, we're 449 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,680 blocking 10s of thousands of different advertising and 450 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,560 tracking websites as well. So, so there's multiple layers 451 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,600 of protection. That's the theme you'll find on 452 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,080 all of our products. There's multiple layers that are 453 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,840 protecting you. How easy is the above suite? 454 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,600 How easy is the above suite? Well, on our devices it's it's 455 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:52,880 quite easy and you know, things have been integrated nicely so 456 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:58,160 they they fit in seamlessly. I'd say, I'd say it's quite easy 457 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,160 and there is documentation for pretty much everything. 458 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,240 You can get a little hint as to how it all works if you go to 459 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:12,680 kb.above.in and and there's a lot of different services. 460 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:18,320 This is kind of was our, was our SAS offering as you might call 461 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,880 it. It's a cloud offering. 462 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,120 All of these services run in the cloud, but the kind of the 463 00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:26,320 difference is, is it's only cloud for the things that 464 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:31,080 actually need cloud messaging. You, you want to have some sort 465 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,160 of service out there running it for you because when your phone 466 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,920 or computer is online, it needs to save them and, and deliver 467 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,520 the messages to you. And the beautiful thing about 468 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,280 our messaging system is that it is end to end encrypted. 469 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,360 And so even when these messages are sitting in the messaging 470 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:51,440 server, we can't read them. So end 10 encryption is a really 471 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,640 great feature on our messaging. We also have the video 472 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,520 conferencing just also end 10 encrypted. 473 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,320 It's using the software Gypsy. Some of your viewers might know 474 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,480 about it. And there's all these different 475 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:08,400 features, I think services 9 and 9 in total that people can use 476 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,000 to replace the reliance on big tech communications. 477 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:17,480 One of my favorite things is giving the above book to 478 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,000 children. Why? 479 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,200 Because they completely customize it and they they make 480 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,840 their own operating system on it. 481 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:29,440 One of our team members, she has an above book and she got an 482 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,720 above book for her kids and it doesn't resemble the original 483 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,800 above book anymore because everything is customizable. 484 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,200 Like, let me just show you. So this thing, you know, these, 485 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,640 this, this taskbar, you can change every single part of 486 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,840 this, whatever icons are showing up down here, even even the 487 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,200 themes like the colors of the windows, like for instance, if 488 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,960 you wanted to, I, I left some little Easter eggs here, but 489 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,040 when you shake the windows, you might notice they're a little 490 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,560 bit jiggly. You can modify how jiggly the 491 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,320 windows are. That's, that's, that is the 492 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,840 level of customization. So, and Andrew, so I, I, I 493 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,760 updated the computer and so check this out. 494 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,920 So I want to say it's cold as heck today here in the United 495 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,680 States in Celsius. No. 496 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:23,240 OK, check out. So 50 Celsius, where is it? 497 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,960 No, it's converting it. It's converting it to, did I say 498 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,400 50 Fahrenheit? Oh, OK. 50F. 499 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,160 OK. So if I type in 50F, it 500 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,400 automatically converts it to 10°C. 501 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,640 So that's cold. It's pretty cold, right? 502 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,720 How big is South Africa? South Africa, I mean, that's 503 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:51,560 hard to answer. I think it's the 24th or 25th 504 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,440 largest country geographically in the world. 505 00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,080 So I think a whole bunch of European countries can probably 506 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:05,360 fit into South Africa, but we're not as, I mean, maybe we're the 507 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,960 size of Texas. I mean the US is huge. 508 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,600 You're probably much bigger. Well, yeah, it's arguable. 509 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,920 But yeah, it's like the I learned a few months ago, Africa 510 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,560 is like ridiculously huge. I mean, it's like it's not 511 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,920 portrayed accurately on the map. It's like bigger. 512 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,760 Africa is very huge. If you want to fly across the 513 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,520 continent from where I am, which is at the bottom and you want to 514 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:38,480 fly to the top to say I don't know Dubai, that flight is 9 515 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,480 hours. Wow. 516 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,880 Yeah, no, it's not far at all. Yeah. 517 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:53,120 I hate, I hate long flights, so I I I feel bad. 518 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,200 But hey, at least there's a lot of different biomes in Africa. 519 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,360 Hey, you know, I was in Hawaii recently. 520 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:04,360 This was interesting. One of the Queens of Hawaii, she 521 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,400 treated her one of her islands, Kauai, as a garden for the 522 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,160 world. And so when she would have 523 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,800 diplomats visit or people from different countries, she said, 524 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,440 bring your seeds and plant them into the ground. 525 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,880 And so you have these African trees like everywhere on this 526 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,200 island and in Hawaii. They're like, they look like 527 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,640 they're from the Serengeti. I don't know, you probably know 528 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,560 the name for them, but they're kind of like they're flat or how 529 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,480 do I describe them? They're flat and they're kind of 530 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:38,840 sparse, kind of geometric, more more boxy than trees normally 531 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,440 are. They have like layers to them. 532 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,440 But anyways, you see like this amalgamation of trees from 533 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,040 everywhere. I thought that was really cool. 534 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,400 Now, yes, and you mentioned Africa, yes, an interesting 535 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,360 thought. Linux devices actually make a 536 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,880 lot of sense. On the African continent, where 537 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,920 there is a lot of poverty, costs can be quite a lot lower and 538 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,480 then therefore the the barrier to entry is much lower. 539 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:10,520 Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. And naturally developing 540 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,560 countries are using Linux. Like when you look at the 541 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,760 numbers of people using Linux and Linux is market share, it's 542 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,640 the biggest. And in fact, in some countries 543 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:26,360 there's been like this, the snowball effect you have 544 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:32,480 countries like that are jumping to 40% Linux usage and which is 545 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,400 really wild to think about. You also it's, it's also just 546 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,920 spreading now from from developing countries where cost 547 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:44,920 was a factor to gaining independence from the American 548 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,360 big tech oligopoly. You know, I'm, I'm, it's, I 549 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,920 think it's, it's not Denmark, it's Germany is shifting their 550 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,880 entire IT stack away from Microsoft. 551 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,080 There's a few other European countries doing that as well. 552 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:04,640 And they're shifting to things like Next cloud, for example, or 553 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,239 LibreOffice. So big moves are are being made 554 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,320 right now and in computing and hopefully we'll we'll equalize 555 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,679 the playing field. People who are locked into the 556 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:19,280 Apple ecosystems or the Microsoft ecosystems find it 557 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,840 very difficult to break out, and if your starting point is 558 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,159 something decentralized and open source like Linux, then your 559 00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:31,000 journey ahead is a lot easier. Yeah, sure. 560 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,719 Make a really good point. It's like to do it in a easy, 561 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,600 stressful way when there's not a lot of pressure on you, you know 562 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:45,080 there's not a deadline or you're still figuring out how it is the 563 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,560 way you work. Switching to Linux at that point 564 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,840 of time is is much, much better than spending years on a 565 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,239 platform that is corralling you into its walled garden and 566 00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,120 getting you dependent, getting you dependent on how it works. 567 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,080 Unfortunately, that's what happens mostly. 568 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,680 Microsoft's pretty bad but, but for, for people who work in 569 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,760 enterprise OR corporations, but it's really Apple that get 570 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,000 people bought in to their ecosystem and make it very hard 571 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,840 to leave. And, and so for things like 572 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,000 FaceTime and iMessage and AirDrop and all of these cool 573 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,760 things, you know, I can't deny that they're cool, but the 574 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,120 problem is, is that they're only Apple things. 575 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:34,240 And once you're not paying into Apple's game, you don't get to 576 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:38,080 use them. So getting independence from 577 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:43,240 that early on and having a parallel tracked for how you do 578 00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:44,920 things. And, and again, there are 579 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,880 alternatives to everything I mentioned. 580 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,800 It's easy to share files between your phone and computer. 581 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,560 And there's even tools coming out for the phones to that'll 582 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,880 make it easy to share, share files with strangers too. 583 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,320 But the, The thing is, is we need a network effect of enough 584 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,000 people using this technology to, to have its impact. 585 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,320 Because if there is some sort of game changing app or, or game 586 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,800 changing information that comes out, big tech phones are not 587 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,960 going to allow you to share that. 588 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,480 They're going to censor it right away. 589 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:21,320 This is just like in in China. When people, do you remember 590 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,920 this story where they were using AirDrop as a, as a form of 591 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,240 activism? What was the story? 592 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,600 They were they were using AirDrop. 593 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:38,640 Oh man, so there was, I'm trying to remember what they were 594 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,640 rallying about. I think it was a bank run 595 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,600 protesters. Oh yeah. 596 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,040 And and you know, this is if this was the zero COVID 597 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:58,200 restrictions, so the really bad COVID restrictions of the CCP, 598 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,560 they were, they were being censored on social media. 599 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,160 So they were starting to use iPhones AirDrop to send each 600 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,360 other documents. Like they would sit on the train 601 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,240 and one person would send a document to everyone there. 602 00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:15,520 They'd get a notification. And then Apple quietly added 603 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,640 restrictions showing that, you know, preventing Chinese people 604 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:24,360 from using it and preventing just an easy file sharing. 605 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,920 So this is what happens, you know, when you try to use tech 606 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,880 to resist or to even share knowledge or try to help others, 607 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,920 they can just cancel your ability to do that. 608 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:44,800 So see. Yeah, before Apple's update, 609 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,600 Chinese activists could use AirDrop allows users to so many 610 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,480 anonymously send files directly using their Bluetooth, as long 611 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,040 as recipients have their devices set to be discoverable. 612 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,160 Before, Chinese activists could use AirDrop to disseminate 613 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,960 information to strangers without revealing their own personal 614 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,840 details. Now only they won't be able to. 615 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,960 You will actually have to set your discoverability to everyone 616 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,880 for 10 minutes before they switch back to contacts only. 617 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,840 Now if Apple had left this feature on, it would be it would 618 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,320 be kind of an instrument for social change. 619 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,000 You know, it's to sharing of information. 620 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,320 It's a good thing. It goes back into like saying 621 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,360 clouds, not necessarily a bad thing. 622 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,840 AirDrop is not necessarily a bad thing. 623 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:34,240 But when big tech gets its tentacles and everything, even 624 00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:37,440 when it starts to work out well for people, it can, it can just 625 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,800 be shut off. And that is, that is the danger 626 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,840 of using these centralized abuse of big tech systems. 627 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,200 That's why we've got to figure out open source solutions. 628 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,960 That's a ramble there, sorry. The great thing with Linux is 629 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,800 that it is truly decentralized. Yeah, like we were saying 630 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:59,200 earlier, you know, it it has, it has a greater capacity to be 631 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,040 decentralized. It it is decentralized in the 632 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,360 sense that there's no one single body developing the core 633 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,200 software. It's not just Microsoft 634 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,720 Corporation that does Windows, it's it's several competing 635 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,800 organizations with their own flavor of Linux, all using the 636 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,120 Linux kernel, which is the lower levels of the computer that 637 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,400 supports the the various hardware and drivers of of the 638 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,720 computers you might use. So yeah, it's, it's a community 639 00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:33,920 based decentralized model that is kicking ass. 640 00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:39,440 I mean, where where is where is does does Windows have an 641 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,360 automatic way to convert? What? 642 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,720 What do you want to convert, bro? 643 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:46,320 I want to convert 5. Nine. 644 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,640 Yeah, bro, I'm, I'm, I'm five. I'm 5 feet tall actually. 645 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,840 And I'm, I'm, I actually know that's 1.524 meters. 646 00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:59,360 Look at that. Those of you just kidding, I'm 647 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,080 messing with you. No, I'm not actually 5 feet. 648 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,400 I almost thought you are but. Now would that be sad? 649 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,240 That would be sad. I'm not actually 5 feet. 650 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,240 Let's see, I'll put in my. I feel uncomfortable putting my 651 00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:14,760 real height in. What's my? 652 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,880 I'll say I'm 511. I'm one point. 653 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,920 See, This is why. This is why metric is inferior. 654 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,120 You really want me to say I'm one point 8.03 or 4 meters? 655 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,160 When you're talking about digital ID and pushing back 656 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:36,560 against surveillance and basically all the Agenda 2030 657 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:42,600 tentacles that are finding the way into our personal lives, 658 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,240 then you, you kind of want to go down this road, don't you? 659 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,960 Yeah, absolutely. There's we all. 660 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,680 We all have a very difficult choice to make. 661 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:01,440 And this is a choice that is mirrored in every facet of life, 662 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,360 whether it comes to your food, whether it comes to your 663 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:09,520 children's education. And that is inconvenience versus 664 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,480 freedom, inconvenience versus freedom. 665 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,000 And honestly, the tech, the tech space is the easiest choice you 666 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,480 have to make because all you have to do is move around and 667 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,440 click stuff, tap stuff on your phone. 668 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,160 And it's not, it's not hard work. 669 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:29,240 But the choice comes down to, are you going to play by your 670 00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:33,040 own rules and maybe jump through a few hoops because you have 671 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:38,360 privacy, or are you going to be completely bought in to the 672 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:43,360 system and let it track every single aspect of your life? 673 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,080 I don't think people realize there is no limit to the 674 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,840 surveillance we thought they might be satisfied at just for 675 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:57,680 listening to our microphones on a 24/7 repeat loop and showing 676 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,200 us personalized ads. No, it's going to go farther 677 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,280 than that. People are now talking about 678 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,760 this even though it's a four year old patent, but they have 679 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,680 patents for the Airpods, the little Bluetooth earbuds that 680 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,320 people use on iPhone that can literally listen to your blame 681 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,320 brain waves using electrocephalogram sensors. 682 00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:22,680 And so just giving you a hint, this is not going to stop. 683 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,360 They would like to read your brain waves. 684 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,520 There. There are Meta and another 685 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,960 company is actually working on tech that will take your brain 686 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,120 waves and convert it into sentences. 687 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,240 They've they've already started that work. 688 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,360 And so anytime you support one of these companies, you're 689 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,200 investing into that future with your time and your attention. 690 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,560 There's also the opportunity cost of not contributing your 691 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,080 time and attention to free and open source software. 692 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,880 And so this is a very important decision that needs to be made. 693 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,480 Do you? Think that there is a sense of 694 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:08,800 overt paranoia creeping in also. Or for for the public at large, 695 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:15,640 or for for my sphere or. Well, let me say it like this. 696 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:20,920 There are so many millions of people who are being tracked and 697 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:26,840 traced that you're not that important in in many ways. 698 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,720 They don't know actually that you exist. 699 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,280 Your information is just some long information string. 700 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,080 Yeah, so, so I, I I like the direction you're going. 701 00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:45,120 It's like the counter argument is like, well, I'm using, I'm 702 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,320 using the big tech phone. Do they, are they really looking 703 00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,280 at everything I'm doing on my phone? 704 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,320 Are they really looking? No, no, people aren't looking. 705 00:43:54,320 --> 00:44:00,480 Probably not, but AI is looking and and inferencing your 706 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:05,880 behavior and your reaction into a group, into larger groups, 707 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:11,320 sets of millions and millions of people to do do world 708 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,920 simulation. What is the world's reaction? 709 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:20,520 For example, when Trump postures like he's going to annex 710 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,560 Greenland, What's the public response to that? 711 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,720 And people unwittingly don't realize they're in this, they're 712 00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:30,560 in the system and it's a two way St. 713 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:35,680 It's not only that they're monitoring the global emotional 714 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,240 reaction of people through their devices, but it's also 715 00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:43,320 controlling your emotions through through what you see on 716 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:44,840 your phone. And I think that's the more 717 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,320 insidious part of it is, is stealing your attention and life 718 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,600 force from what is presented on your phone. 719 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,760 And so I'd say that that's, that's even, that's a bigger 720 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,320 danger than the privacy in, in my opinion. 721 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,680 So by the time you go to abovephone.com/germ, which I'll 722 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:08,560 put up right here, you Scroll down to the laptop section, you 723 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:14,280 will see the quantum here. Now the quantum is our nice 724 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:19,480 nicest locally enabled. It's what germ has got and and 725 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,400 it's it's, it's a beast, right? It's it's, it's bigger, it's 15 726 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,920 inches. And then our older laptops here 727 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,240 they they run the same software. They do run the same software, 728 00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:33,200 but they're that's just less powerful. 729 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,160 And I'll let you read into the specs, but you can you can get 730 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,720 an older laptop, but if you want the laptop germ has, then look 731 00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:43,800 for the quantum. You can also get phones from 732 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,240 this page as well. And what's really cool too is 733 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,000 the 9 Pro XL. Anything that has 9 should be 734 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,440 able to run the same local AI, which is which is nuts. 735 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,400 But let's say you don't want to run local AI. 736 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,720 But let's say you don't want to run local AI. 737 00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:05,240 You've still got very good devices and they are not being 738 00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:09,440 tracked and traced. Yeah, exactly. 739 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,240 You're spot on. It's like you're, you have the 740 00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:18,080 security of this operating system which is protecting you 741 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,320 at low levels by cleaning out data every time it doesn't need 742 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,440 to use it inside your apps and and protecting you in this way. 743 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:30,920 And you can still have a very an excellent experience on these 744 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,360 these newer devices and the older devices. 745 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,520 Wow, that was that. I know it cut me off. 746 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,520 And you can still have these experiences on these newer 747 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,400 devices and the older devices. So, you know, you could be on an 748 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,600 encrypted call while navigating using your offline map. 749 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,720 You know, you could be downloading YouTube videos 750 00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:59,600 directly from YouTube privately. So they're on your phone and you 751 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,720 have them forever. There's a lot of cool things you 752 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:03,000 can do. OK. 753 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:09,120 So then, that's the Segway. So can the lay the layman do 754 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:14,680 pretty much everything? Yeah, it's, it's, it's like 95% 755 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,680 of things you can do. And for the other 5%, there's 756 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,800 workarounds, right? Just to give people, yeah, give 757 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,520 people visibility into things they may not be able to do. 758 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,880 If they have a very, very big bank and they want to use the 759 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:33,560 app on their phones, it's possible that the bank will want 760 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,600 to, they'll want to enforce that you have a Google licensed 761 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,600 operating system because they want to be able to. 762 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,040 It's for security, right? It's actually not for security. 763 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,360 It's just for supporting the oligopoly. 764 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,520 For those people, they may have to use a web browser to access 765 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,320 their bank. And there's also a lot of banks 766 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,920 that are supported by this. So there, there are tiny things 767 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:59,560 like that. There's the, if you use big tech 768 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,360 features like iMessage, that's not a thing on this phone, 769 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,080 right? So you'll be using alternatives 770 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,440 and we'll point you to everything that you need to 771 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,680 know. Also, if you buy any device from 772 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:16,680 us, a phone or a laptop, you get a free call with a real live 773 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:21,160 person like myself. We have an amazing support team 774 00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:24,320 of support engineers and we'll sit with you for an hour and 775 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,760 help you migrate and help you make these decisions. 776 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,160 What am I going to do for this app? 777 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,520 We'll help you migrate over so you can use your phone. 778 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,960 Where people might have a few hiccups is with their banking 779 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,440 apps. I think that's a very, very good 780 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,200 point. Yeah, And you know, I don't want 781 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,600 to mislead anyone into the experience, but this is just, 782 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:50,120 it's not, it's not anyone's on on the the Google site. 783 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,640 It's not the fault of the operating systems developers or 784 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,720 any of these open source developers that are trying to 785 00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:56,960 make you more secure and private. 786 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,920 It is literally Google trying to enforce seeing that this 787 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,200 technology is getting popular. They're seeing this technology 788 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,040 is getting popular and trying to quash it. 789 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,080 They're trying to quash it. In fact, this is very big news, 790 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:14,520 but they're so scared about open source apps that people are 791 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:19,000 using and and that there are going to prevent you from 792 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:24,480 installing open source apps in 2027 on official Google devices. 793 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,240 So these are these are phones that have partnerships with 794 00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:29,760 Google. We're talking Samsung, we're 795 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:34,240 talking Xiaomi, OnePlus, anyone who has a license deal with 796 00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:37,160 Google. They were they were prepared to 797 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:41,680 prevent you to from installing apps outside of the Google Play 798 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,520 Store. They were ready to do that by 799 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,040 2027. Now they've walked back a little 800 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:50,600 bit, but just to tell you that they were going to lock down 801 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,480 this ecosystem. So with above phone, you're not 802 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,320 you're not impacted by that at all. 803 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,760 You can install apps from anywhere on the Google Play 804 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,840 Store, off Google Play Store. It's pretty great. 805 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,080 Yeah, you have to have your pros and cons. 806 00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,880 Like which hill do you want to die on? 807 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,640 Something like maps? There's a big one. 808 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,600 Also maps. Yeah, we're, we're pretty happy 809 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:17,040 with our our mapping solution. So it actually it's 2 apps, it's 810 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,440 not just one. So we're using an app called Co 811 00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,480 Maps and it's a really beautiful mapping app. 812 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,840 So it does turn by turn navigation. 813 00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:32,240 You can save points on the map. And then and the most important 814 00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:36,000 part about it, as you can download maps of your country or 815 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,720 the entire world, and once you've downloaded them, you can 816 00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:41,680 navigate offline, right? You can put your phone on 817 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:45,280 airplane mode and travel around simply because it can do the 818 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,160 routing on the map locally. You don't need an Internet 819 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,480 connection. So we combine that with a web 820 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:56,840 wrapper of Google Maps because Google still has a monopoly on 821 00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,920 points of interest. So you use this private 822 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,440 web-based wrapper that doesn't save any cookies or save any 823 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,360 information to Google. You get the address, you share 824 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,880 that with Co maps, and then you can get to where you're going 825 00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,640 and it's great. And then over time, you start to 826 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:18,680 build your own, your own library of places in your hometown and 827 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:23,120 you can like organize them by food or whatever, and you start 828 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,840 to learn the town. That's, that's kind of the 829 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:30,720 beautiful part about this phone. It sets you up to use your own 830 00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:32,560 authority and your mental faculties. 831 00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:34,880 You you kind of think about it and you learn better instead of 832 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:39,440 just trusting Google. So the browser that that comes 833 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:45,840 with the laptop and the phone that that comes from from from 834 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,880 you guys, what what browser is that? 835 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,960 Is it Chromium? His base. 836 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:55,800 It's based on chromium. It's called Vanadium and it's a 837 00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:01,800 it's a highly secure browser. It's using lower level hardware 838 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,640 features. Actually that's it's, it's set 839 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:09,400 up to use hardware features like memory tagging extensions, which 840 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:14,440 is just a fancy way of of saying the phone is very strict on 841 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:19,000 which apps or which processes use what memory on the phone. 842 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:23,040 So it's a very secure browser and it's developed by the 843 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,280 Graphene OS developers. So it's the main browser on 844 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,560 above phone. It's Chrome based like you 845 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,520 mentioned there. You can also install Firefox 846 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,000 browsers if you want. You can also install other 847 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,360 Chrome based browsers like Brave if you want. 848 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:44,000 But this is also a little bit of a trap because the browser might 849 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:50,680 be great, but what search engine is the user going to use? 850 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,880 That's a great question. It depends on on what they would 851 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,840 like to use by default. What do? 852 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,640 You use. Well, I use our own search 853 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,440 engine. This is a meta search engine. 854 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,720 So what's really cool about this? 855 00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:10,800 It's a search engine that searches other search engines. 856 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,440 So it's not just searching Google. 857 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:20,560 You can go into its engines and actually configure which search 858 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:21,920 engines. I've used that. 859 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:23,400 Yeah, I've used that. What's it called? 860 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,640 So it's called search X is the software. 861 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,680 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so we run a private instance 862 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,240 of search X that's just highly optimized. 863 00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:37,160 And it's the there's no logs on on our search engine. 864 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,400 And so yeah, you can, you can do really cool things like turn the 865 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,360 engines on and off here. So, right, if I don't like the 866 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:47,840 results I'm getting from Google, I'll take Bing. 867 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,440 You know, Bing's are the worst. I'll take mojic and and pre 868 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,440 search, right. So you have control over that. 869 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,600 And there's really so much like check this out. 870 00:53:55,600 --> 00:54:01,280 There's like there's Baidu search down here for I know Germ 871 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,800 would would maybe use one of these Chinese search engines. 872 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,560 Just kidding. So yeah, lots, lots of lots of 873 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:16,960 choice. I actually use Kogi KAGI and 874 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,760 I've been using it for about two years. corgi.com, I think it's 875 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,800 Japanese for liberty or freedom or something to that effect. 876 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,400 It is a premium search engines. You do have to create an 877 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,120 account, but do you have a favor? 878 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,640 Before you knee jerk, just look them up. 879 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,960 The guys behind it are very privacy orientated. 880 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,320 One of them, I think one or two of the guys comes from Brave 881 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,040 MIT. They are just driven by privacy. 882 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,960 They've got no idea what I'm searching apparently at least. 883 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,600 But their whole setup is is very driven by the community. 884 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:57,040 I strongly recommend them as a search engine also, And I mean I 885 00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,600 I've customized my search results using using Cargi. 886 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,840 So I don't get anything from CNN or Fox for example at all. 887 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,600 Like nothing, I I've pushed Wikipedia results down to the 888 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,760 bottom for I can have them entirely removed. 889 00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,120 But you can, you can rank your own search results and adjust 890 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,760 your your search. That's that's very, very cool. 891 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,000 Really cool. So you're telling me in your 892 00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,320 searches you're like took the mainstream media outlets and 893 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:25,960 you're just like, all right, don't, don't bring them up 894 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,320 again. Genius. 895 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,840 That's genius, right? I mean, it's, it's really cool 896 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:34,440 because if you're a researcher and you're researching a very 897 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,800 controversial issue, you're going to have all this fact 898 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,560 checking come up. You could just literally block 899 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:45,640 all those fact checking domains and get to what you're searching 900 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:47,000 for. This is really cool. 901 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,800 I mean, you, you kind of turned me on to this. 902 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,120 And I don't think some of the features you mentioned are that 903 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,600 hard to build. So we might, we might be 904 00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,520 inspired enough to, to bring some of these into our own 905 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,440 search engine. But that is really cool. 906 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:04,880 I like, I really love about those. 907 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,600 The reason why I brought it up is because so you've got your 908 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,680 privacy orientated devices, but the the trap is that you'll end 909 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:18,560 up using Google or some other big tech search engine and you 910 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,880 don't want to do that. Right, right. 911 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,200 It's this final layer of computing that you also have to 912 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,760 figure out. You're figuring out what you're 913 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,720 using on your computer, but also what are you connecting out to 914 00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:32,480 the Internet to use. So service like Caggy is great. 915 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,720 And by the way, this important part of our technology, it is in 916 00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:38,720 no way limiting anything you're doing. 917 00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:41,680 You want to set Caggy as your defaults, your institution, by 918 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,600 all means do it. You can do it for Google. 919 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,520 You can use big tech stuff or alternate stuff if you want. 920 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,160 You have the complete freedom to, but it's your choice. 921 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,440 At the end of the day, you're not limited by any third party. 922 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,360 So super, super cool man. Thanks for sharing that. 923 00:56:57,240 --> 00:56:58,960 OK, well let's come in for landing. 924 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:04,720 Hakim give me basically a summary of this discussion. 925 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:12,800 All right, so the imperial system is the best, hands down, 926 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:18,160 feet down. Just kidding. 927 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:20,840 Yeah. Jeremy. 928 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,240 Well, it's a pleasure to be on here with you. 929 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:29,040 And so today we talked about a lot and we talked about how 930 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,040 these AI data centers were actually hinting at how they're 931 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,600 about to change the face of computing to where in the 932 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:41,320 future, you won't even be able to buy a powerful laptop that 933 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,440 it'll just be set up to use cloud gaming services or cloud 934 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,280 AI services. You're going to rent your 935 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,200 compute power. And so one of the best things 936 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:55,440 you can do right now is to get yourself a reliable open source 937 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:59,080 computer like the above book. And if you want to go to 938 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,800 abovephone.com/germ, you can learn more about our computers 939 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:08,360 and that there is this new decentralized software movement 940 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,200 that is happening. And to, to it's very important 941 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,600 for you to start and to get technological literacy in this 942 00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,200 area because it's going to come a point soon in the future where 943 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,360 your computer will be spying anyways just as much as your 944 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,320 phone is. I mean, it already is to degree, 945 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:28,960 but with things like digital ID could easily be integrated into 946 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,240 the computer. In fact, it already has some 947 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:35,720 countries that use digital ID. So to just be aware of this 948 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:40,440 ever, ever approaching surveillance grid and to carve 949 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:45,880 out your own piece of solace of, of, of quiet and where you can 950 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,960 do whatever you want and you won't be bothered by forced 951 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,840 updates. So if you want to learn more, 952 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:56,360 actually I think I think there are two places to start and that 953 00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,000 would be both on learn.abovephone.com, you can 954 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:04,000 check out the Rise Above device and ecosystem overview. 955 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,680 And there's actually, so I talked about here, I give a 956 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,560 whole view. You just need to put in your 957 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:15,920 e-mail and you'll be able to see this and I'll give you an 958 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:20,720 overview of everything, the problems that these devices are 959 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,720 dealing with and actually what the experience is like on these 960 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,720 devices and answer a bunch of questions. 961 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:29,600 It's really great. So that's Rise Above the rise of 962 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,000 love webinar on learn.abovephone.com. 963 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,640 Then also check out Empowerment with Ethical Local and private 964 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:40,720 AI, which is how to use local AI on your devices and use it to 965 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,160 help you and also to understand the nuance of it. 966 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:48,120 So check those things out. And again, if you get a phone or 967 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:52,640 laptop from us, you're getting a free hour long call with a real 968 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,560 live person. They're there to help you 24 969 00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,360 you're getting e-mail and chat support five days a week, 9 to 970 01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,800 5. And this is this is our job. 971 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,920 This is our passion. This is what we're here to do. 972 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,920 Everyone in our company is, is part of the movement. 973 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:13,240 And this this is, I won't say a life or death mission to us, but 974 01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:17,360 it's, it's very, very important. So we will if you are ready to 975 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,120 take the step, we're we're here from you. 976 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,120 I. Mean this is a great way to push 977 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,360 back against Technocracy. It is it. 978 01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:29,760 Because they count on our own compliance, they count on us 979 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,480 picking out the two devices that are offered on the store. 980 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,640 They never expect us to go our own route. 981 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,040 And this is what the this age that we're about to step into to 982 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,640 get spiritual for a second. I do think there's a massive 983 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,320 shift that's about to happen where instead of going from this 984 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:48,520 oligopoly, where there's all this planning and coordination 985 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,040 and these big behemoths of companies and entities were 986 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,920 stepping into the age of, of self authority. 987 01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,040 And so this could be a little step in your journey of self 988 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:02,160 authority. And another thing that comes 989 01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,960 with. Your above book and well, your 990 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,040 above book is, let me remind you, an American plug. 991 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,320 Yeah, so. So thank you for that. 992 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:19,200 Let me make a note of this international adapter for 993 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,720 everyone except Germ. Because Germ already bought an 994 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,280 international adapter, we don't need to. 995 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,600 Give him one but. And is coming from China. 996 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:34,760 How funny is that? There should be a South. 997 01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:37,000 African startup. There's a joke in there 998 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,400 somewhere. There's a joke in there 999 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:42,320 somewhere that. China is China is saving us. 1000 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,680 All right, Hakim Anwar, thank you for joining me in the 1001 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,880 trenches. Blessings. 1002 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:54,840 Thanks Jeremy for having me.