Well, hello, good afternoon. You've been left with me for the
final slot, so I hope I'm going to be able to keep you awake.
And the first thing I'll say is I don't have any slides or
videos or any of this stuff. I'm going to talk.
And the other thing is that. When we do events, it's quite
interesting because quite often the speakers don't don't easily
know what they're going to talk about and.
Patrick Henderson will tell you this, that time goes on and you
know you got to do something and you know you got to do
something. And then and then all of a
sudden maybe an idea comes into your head and it, it just sort
of grows. And then speakers have their
segments. And what we've often found is
surprisingly, these sort of segments that come out of
nowhere then fit together. And I, I felt a bit like this
for the Hope event because Charles has been chasing us for
ages. What are we going to talk about?
And I couldn't really get a grip of it.
And then I'm going to say to you, I woke up last night at
3:00 for reasons we won't go into.
And into my head came what I covered for the news, which was
talking about what was happening with the churches in Cornwall.
And that's a little story in some ways, but actually the
implications, the implications are huge.
So life can be very unexpected. And I'm going to say to you,
well, ask a question. Am I amongst friends this
afternoon? OK, I'm, I'm looking for those
Incognito reporters that I'm sure there, but it's going to be
recorded anyway. So I've made a decision.
The time is right to do this with you guys.
I have talked about some of this with an audience at Alternative
View, which was Ian Crane's masterpiece of getting people
together. So it's possible some of you
might have heard some of what I'm going to talk about because
I'm going to talk about my journey through into the UK
column. But it it's it's pretty poignant
and I'm very happy that when we get into to questions, you can
really challenge me or get stuck into me.
So if I go back, in case anybody doesn't know, I spent 21 years
in the military in the Navy. Navy's always been very good
friends with the Army. If there's any trouble, it's
always the Army and the Navy that are there, usually with the
Royal Marines. And then we wait to see whether
the RAF is going to appear. Anybody from the RAF here?
No, see, there we are. I, I, I, I could.
I'm going to be hacked to pieces for that comment when it comes
out on a video. We, we love you, really, but
you're just not. Yeah, there was a Spitfire went
over earlier in the afternoon. Did anybody see it?
We saw it. Absolutely fantastic.
OK, so I did my 21 years and I have to say I really enjoyed 98%
of it. There is, in my opinion, nothing
like being at sea. I really enjoyed that and
something I always enjoyed was rough weather.
Maybe I was a bit strange on that.
I did get seasick in the beginning but that sort of wears
off after a while. But if you are at sea in a big
storm, it puts you in your place pretty quickly because you start
to realise how minuscule the ship is and how minuscule you
are. And, and I found that this is
actually a really interesting thing to experience because when
it's mega rough Force 10 was the most I got into up off the north
of of Scotland. And I'm pleased to say we did
survive. But you start to wonder.
And so it's, it's an event which makes you think about the world
and also your place in the world and really how significant you
are. But anyway, the military time
was really good. But in the late, sorry, in the,
in the late 80s and into the 90s, I started to realise that
things in the military were changing.
I detected a sort of change in the, what's the word, the
philosophy that I didn't particularly like.
And I thought it was going to get worse.
I felt that I'd had the best out of it.
And so there's no doubt about this because there's still error
and misinformation floating around the Internet.
I was an anti submarine warfare officer.
I was not a submariner. I did not drive.
Or operate on board submarines, although I did a couple of trips
on board nuclear submarines, so my job.
Was to track and find those nasty Russian nuclear submarines
that the BBC so terrified of. That's what I did.
But I wasn't a submariner. And you have to stress that
because anybody gets a hint who's a submariner, you're dead,
man, because you got to be the real thing.
You mustn't claim something you're not.
So I just want to set that out. So the military, I did my bit.
I thoroughly enjoyed it. But I'd lived through a system
that I believed in. And if you're in the military,
in the Navy, every morning at 8:00, if you're the duty person,
you're up saluting the flag. And that represents the royal
family and the country, and you are.
In a system which is very much, very much controlled by the
governing system and you believe in that system and you also
believe that you are there to keep people safe and you can
have a good time at the same same time.
I didn't get near any of the trouble.
I got down to the Falklands 2 days after the Armistice had
been signed. So on the way down we were
expecting to fight like the other units were.
But in the event, by the time I got down there, the fighting was
over and we had six months of patrolling the Falkland Islands,
which is a unique experience with none of the excitement,
having to listen to all the stories of the people who'd been
through the exciting times. I lost four, I can't say
friends, I'll say 3 close acquaintances and two others
that that I joined up with. They died in the Falklands so
that impacted on me. But I didn't go through the real
thing. Charles has been through the
real thing. But I didn't.
So I got to consider myself very lucky when when I came out of
the Navy, I initially tried to get into a normal job.
Inverted comments. I didn't really have much luck
finding a job. I did some psychometric tests
with a couple of companies and invariably the person came back
smiling because the psychometric test said that I was best suited
to the military. So at least the tests were
accurate. But you know, that was that was
a bit of fun. And so eventually with another
ex Navy guy we set up a little consultancy.
Interesting. It was energy management.
This is the start of all the stuff to do about energy coming
through, which I wasn't aware of.
And we were reasonably successful.
We paid the bills, which is the main thing.
And then later I joined a slightly bigger company and
that's when I began to discover the trouble in Plymouth and
large amounts of government money were coming through the
city. They were not being used
properly. They were being misappropriated.
And I was looking at fraud and corruption.
And then when I attempted to expose that, the backlash was
phenomenal. So it was late night phone
calls, knocks on the front door in the middle of the night, used
hypodermic needles in the flower baskets outside my home.
My family, some of them received, I'll say passive
aggressive, threatening emails. My business partner was warned
off that if I didn't shut my mouth he he would lose
contracts. So I I went from living in this
very organised world in the military to coming into civilian
life and suddenly my world exploded.
And in standing up and talking and publishing some things about
what was happening. The beauty of the Internet was
that other people came in contact with me and they started
to say what you are seeing happening in Plymouth, the the
corporate bullying, the fraud and the corruption that's
happening in, it's happening in Sheffield, it's happening in
Leeds, it's happening in in Glasgow.
And so I was beginning to interact with other people and
information was coming in to me about these amazing things
happening in other cities. Very often where people were
suffering because they they, they'd lost businesses or they'd
been bullied or they'd been falsely accused.
And it was, it was a real journey and an eye opener into
the fact that my country was absolutely not as I thought it
was. And I was particularly upset
with the police because in my head, while I'd been doing my
bit in the military, it was clear to me that the police had
not been doing their bit cleaning up the criminality in
this country in this period. And if, if I'll say we're very
end of the 90s or just in to 2000s.
I also started to experience some unusual things in that I'd
be looking at one of the local newspapers and I'd see an
article and it was like that article sort of jumped off the
page and I'd read it and then I'd reread it and I'd think
that's a bit weird. One of the key ones was I
discovered that the Bishop of Exeter was sharing a meeting
which was about elected regional assemblies and I was very
surprised that a religious leader would be actually running
a highly political meeting. And when I challenged his PA,
she didn't like me at all and I didn't get much information
about why he was doing it. So I started to get these little
glimpses of strange things going on.
Another little one was a very, very weird article where they've
been looking at security in some of the more impoverished areas
in Plymouth and they've been talking about putting gates in
to stop people moving through alleyways at the back of areas
of flats. And in the article it said that
they they now got the ability aside from CCTV to also be
listening, to have microphones so that they could also listen
at the same time. And the, the there was a
sentence in this article that said the things being narrated
from the view of the Plymouth City Council.
It said, we, we need to give people, we need to let people
know that we're listening to them.
And I just thought, what bizarre little comment because what did
that mean? It was almost like we need to
get people to understand that what they're doing is being
listened to. So these things started to crop
up. And, and then one morning I was
at home in my kitchen and the, I think it was the mobile phone
rang first. And it was a guy I hadn't spoken
to for at least a couple of years.
And he said, oh, hello, Brian, don't really know why I'm
calling you, but I thought you needed to know this.
And he gave me a little package of information about wrongdoing
and, and I said, why did you call me?
And he said, why? I don't really know, but you're
the only person I could think of to give this information to.
So I, I decided to call you. So I took the information we had
a. A quick exchange, polite
exchange and then I put the phone down, bit mystified, and
the next thing it rang again and it was another person.
Hello Brian, how are you this morning?
I don't really know why I'm calling but I thought you needed
to know X. Well, then the mobile phone rang
and then the landline went and then the I took 11 calls back to
back with 11 different people calling me one morning to tell
me about weird things going on, criminality, people being
bullied, stuff happening with people's children.
And by the time the last one finished, I thought, that's
pretty weird, what's what's going on?
So my life then continued with learning about the fraud and
corruption. I had a little website where we
were starting to publish bits and pieces and, and I'd got some
friends around me in Plymouth who were also starting to
realise that there was something underwater in, in the country.
And so at least I could chat to them.
But Even so, these very weird little things, you could almost
call them coincidences happened. And invariably when they did, I
got information. Well, one morning, when was
this? I'm going to guess and say
probably about 2002, possibly 2003.
So three years before the start of the UK column, I was at home
in my little office space that I got at home and I was, I was
working on a report and the phone rang and it was a friend
of mine called Paul. And he's, he, he was an
architect. He was working down in Plymouth
in Cornwall. And he, he said to me straight
away, hello Brian, what are you doing today?
And I said, I got some reports to write Paul.
And he said no, you're not, you're coming to see me.
And I said, Paul, I got to do these reports.
No, you're not. You're going to come and see me
Paul. I got to do these reports.
He said, alright, then when can you come and see me?
And I said, well, I got a free day next week.
I could come and see you next week.
And he said, no, no, you come and see me tomorrow.
So I said why? And he said, don't bother with
that. You just come and see me.
And I said, Paul, where and, and he, he's, he said basically
Land's End, which was, you know, a good hour and 45 minutes for
me, maybe 2 hours depending on the, the traffic.
And I said, Paul, I, I possibly could come tomorrow, but I can't
go all the way to Land's End. It's, it's too far.
And he said, OK, you come to my place in Truro that's about an
hour and 20 minutes away. So I said, OK, I asked him again
why? And he just said, come.
And I've known this guy for a very long time and I trusted
him. So I thought, well, OK, I'll go.
So the next day is a very sunny day.
I leave home at about 9:00 in my car.
I have a lovely drive down into Cornwall.
The sun is shining. Cornwall's at his best.
And I'm thinking to myself, what are you doing?
I get to his house, park the car, knock on the door, and a
lady that I'd never met before opened the door and I said, oh,
I'm here to see Paul. And she said, yes, I know.
And I said, is he here? And she said, oh, no, he's out
with the dog. And I thought, I've just driven
an hour and 20 minutes to come down and strange Lady Paul's out
with the dog. And I said to her, to her, I
don't really know what's going on because Paul was insistent.
I came down and she looked at me.
And then she said, well, you're here because of me.
And I looked at her and I said, well, that's interesting.
Why? Because of you?
And she said, well, it's a bit of a story.
Would you like a cup of tea? And I said, I think I deserve 1.
So I went in and this particular lady was called Jackie, started
to make a cup of tea. And I said, Jackie, I'm really
confused because Paul was insistent I come down.
He's not even here. You're telling me I'm here
because of you? You know how does this work?
And she looked at me and she said, well, you, you're going to
find this very strange. But she said, I, I can
experience things when it's like somebody's talking to me or I
can have very vivid dreams and somebody is talking to me.
And when it happens, she said, and she's looking at me very
intently, she said it is God talking to me.
And I looked at her and I said, OK, where you know, where do I
fit into this? And she said, well, I had a she
is saying this. I had a very vivid dream and you
were in the dream Brian and Paul was in the dream and another
friend who's also called Paul. So 2 Pauls.
And I was in the dream and I waited and it stopped there and
I said so how does this? You know, how does this affect
me? You don't.
You don't know me. And she said, well, I do know
you because Paul's told me a lot about what you're doing, what
you're seeing. Pause.
And so I said, OK, So what does that mean?
And she said, well, I had the very powerful dream and and
that's usually God talking to me and I and and then she added,
and that means I have a message. So I said to her.
I said, OK, what's the message? And she said, oh, that's The
funny thing, I don't know. At this point the cup of tea
arrived and we sat at the kitchen table and I'm sort of
stirring my tea thinking. I said to her, Jackie, tell me a
bit about yourself. And so she started to tell me a
little bit about her personal story.
Some of it is very personal, which I'm not going to repeat to
you. But in essence, she'd had a
tough. Life as a single mum.
Then she'd started a project in Cornwall called the Reminiscent
Project Reminiscence. And the idea was that they got
young sort of primary school children into the residential
homes and the care homes to meet with elderly people.
And the elderly people talked about their lives and their
professions. And she said it just took off.
Everybody loved it, the children loved it, the elderly people
loved it. And this project went from
nothing to the fact that several schools got interested.
And she said I had a lovely job bringing the children together
with the elderly people. And she said it, it had been
going really well. For quite some time and then one
day a lady turned up and she said Jackie, I can think I can
help you get some funding to support your project and and
make it grow. And Jackie said, so this lady
got involved and she did get a little bit of money, but she
said then things started to go wrong and it it was friction in
her little project which she never had before.
And then she said, the lady said I've got a friend, another lady
and she can do XY and Z and she can help your project.
And Jackie said when the second lady got involved, the first
thing she discovered is the 2 ladies were having a special
relationship together. But she said then things got
even worse and my wonderful little project started to
breakdown. And then they accused me of
having an affair with a vicar. And then it turned into a
nightmare. And then she started to tell me
another part of the story and she got to a particular point
and I said to her, I will tell you what happened next.
She said well. How, how do you know?
And I said, well, because I'm learning some some interesting
things at the moment and I think I know what happened.
And she said, alright, you tell me.
So I told her what happened and she looked at me in amazement
and said that's exactly what happened.
That's incredible. How do you know that?
And I said, Jackie, all over the country there are terrible
things starting to happen amongst communities and amongst
people especially that are trying to do good things.
People come alongside them, they appear to be good and then in no
time at all their projects are broken down.
There's animosity, there's friction.
And I've been talking to people all over the country.
I've been talking to people in Scotland and the Midlands and
Northern Ireland. And when you get talking
criminality, corruption and something else that comes with
it. And I said to Jackie, as this
conversation is flowing, I, I think what we need to do is get
out there and teach people because people are being
attacked, but they can't see it and they don't understand what's
attacking them. And as I said this to her, her
whole demeanour changed. And in a still in a lady's
voice, but in a very authoritarian voice, she said,
you are to get out and you're to travel.
Excuse me? You are to teach people.
You are to explain what's happening and why it's
happening. And then she said to me, oh, I'm
really sorry. I get carried away.
And I find myself saying to her, you've just given me the
message. And this was utterly bizarre
experience. Well, at that moment, in through
the door comes my friend Paul with his dog.
He's back from the walk. And we then have a a little
conversation with our cups of tea over the breakdown of
society in UK and the fact that when this breakdown is
happening, something dark comes with it.
And maybe Ben in his talk to you.
And none of our talks were planned.
Ben had no idea what I was going to talk about.
But Ben started to talk about something essentially dark
coming into the music scene. So I sat and I had a chat for
maybe a couple of hours with Jackie and my friend Paul.
And then I had to go and I'm in the car on the way back in the
sunshine, and my head was literally spinning.
And I'm thinking, this is a bit of a joke on myself because I
thought I'm not trained for this military man, so you've got to
be trained. And as I was thinking that my
very old mobile phone went beep beep which was a message.
And when I got home and looked at it.
It was a text from this lady Jackie with a little quote from
the Bible. And I'm going to say that little
quote absolutely answered the turmoil that was in my head.
Over the next couple of months, sometimes two or three times a
week, sometimes once a week, every other week, If ever I got
down in what I was doing, that phone would go beep, beep, and
then would come a little message from the Bible.
And I'm, I'm not a person who was well read on the Bible and
I'm not going to tell you I'm well read now.
I'm telling you my story. So this interesting experience
happened and these messages had come in.
For a while and then one afternoon there was a it was
about 2:45 in the afternoon. There was a knock on my front
door and I opened it. And there was a really tall guy
I, I knew through my days in UKIP, he was called Ted.
And he was holding an overhead projector, if you remember those
wonderful things, with a acetate sheet that you put on the top to
project onto a screen. And I said, Ted, what are you
doing? And he said, to be honest,
Brian, I'm not too sure, but I thought you'd need this.
And he gave me the overhead projector.
And I said, Ted come in and have a chat and he said, I can't, the
wife's off to me, I'll go and get the screen.
And he disappeared over the road and next thing he came with one
of the big pull up screens so that you could show the images.
And then he was gone. And I, I was in my hall looking
at the overhead projector in the screen.
And I'm thinking somebody's trying to give me a message
here. And about a week later, I
decided to give a talk and I gave the talk in the the old,
what do you call it, the Women's Institute.
Hall. In my village, 17 people came, a
mixture. There was, there were, there
were several from local churches and some not.
And at midnight, having talked to them about what was going on
in the country, I was saying to them, go home.
I had to kick them out because they wouldn't go home.
And that was the first talk I ever did.
And public talks following that is, is up into the hundreds.
I, I don't know how many I've done in total, but from that
point onwards, I'm going to say everything that I needed was
provided. Never too much, never, you know,
a glut of stuff. But I'd, I'd started to work
closely with some other people and we needed a little office
and a man said I'll pay for that.
For a few months. We needed a computer that was
given to us and slowly we started to set up this little
organisation which was to print the first copies of the UK
column and the first ever copy in January 2006 was one A4
sheet, 500 copies, which we as a little team distributed around
Plymouth. So that was the initial start of
the UK column and what were we doing?
What was I doing? Very quickly I was travelling
and I was giving public talks about breakdown in the country,
about the political charity Common Purpose.
That was up to no good part. Part of it was to do with the
European Union, but also constitutional stuff.
And at one point it was getting very tough.
I had two very good ladies working with me, two grand mums,
Carol and Kate, who did super work.
But eventually it was clear that I could not do it all on my own.
And I'm going to say I prayed for some assistance and I was, I
was, is he here because he'll get embarrassed.
I, I, I was provided with Michael Robinson, Mike Robinson.
And that came out of a strange connection where some people
invited me to do a private talk up in London.
I was a bit suspicious of it actually, because I had no idea
really where I was going. But at at the second talk with
these guys, Mike had come over from France and he said he
wanted a help. And that's how the relationship
built up with Mike. Now, the first part of my
journey, I look at that, I was shaken and somebody said, I want
you to do a job. And the job I was not asked to
do was to preach. I was asked to teach about what
was going on in the country. I was nothing about preaching.
And I'm not going to preach to you.
I'm just telling you how I got going.
So the column starts to to grow. And as it grows, the
information, the stories that come in are sort of more and
more harrowing because you start to learn about people in
poverty, people really sick, people who haven't have lost
their children or had businesses taken away from them.
So the message that we were always trying to get across was
pretty heavy, but it was like something was there keeping you
on rails. As we unravelled this, I started
research a bit because I, I just, I, you know, somebody says
you've got a message from God, maybe you go and have a look at
the manual on God to see whether you can learn anything.
And I started to ask a few people who I thought had got a
good knowledge as spiritual matters, what they thought.
And I did get some good advice. I also got rejected from a lot
of the churches that I went to. So the good old Baptists and the
Methodists and the Church of England, they all gave me the
brush off. I actually experienced something
which I still regard rather wonderful is that I went to
speak to some elders from the Plymouth Brethren.
Now, if you get research and you'll instantly find that they
got a chequered history and this and that.
But the people I met I regarded as very wonderful people.
And they said to me, we think you're on a journey.
And boy, they were right. And they said they'd like to say
some prayers, which they did. And I took comfort in those
prayers. But the initial part of learning
was all the good stuff. And then probably about six
months into this journey, I went to visit some people in a a flat
that I've been to before and I was with my wife, but she'd gone
into the flat to meet the the people.
I was getting the bags. I walked over the threshold and
it was like something jumped on me.
I have never experienced a feeling so disgusting in my
life. I fell I'll, I thought I was
going to be sick. And then in my head I've got
this is a spiritual attack. And I'm thinking, how do I know
this? And I'm thinking, I don't know
how I know it, but I'm pretty sure that's what it is.
And my wife looked at me and I think she thought I was having a
heart attack. She, she said, sit down.
And I, I sat down and she went to make a cup of tea.
And I'm not going to give you all of this, but you know what?
A dog came into the room and I thought, the dog's going to do
something. The dog came in through the room
and padded up in front of me. And then we'll say, had a big
accident on the carpet. So I'm in a room feeling
horrible. The house is now stinking, and
I'm thinking, whoa, there's something really bad going on.
Well, I recovered from the incident that night.
I had some really horrific nightmares.
And it ended up that I drove back to Plymouth on my own
through a dark and stormy night. And when I got home, when I went
in through my front door, there was a brown envelope on the
floor. And when I opened it, it was a
Bible. And I know the man who'd been
kind enough to give it to me. It was a Bible, and it was some
Bible magazines. And I decided I would read these
magazines. And I was fascinated because
they were almost like a military manual of warfare.
They were. They were actually written by
the Christadelphians. And if you check the history of
the Christadelphians, you'll discover that they've also got
some chequered history. But the ones I encountered were
lovely people. I read those two magazines and
they were describing breakdown. One of them had a picture of a
man's head in a sniper rifle sight and it said The battle for
our minds. And the other one said the
European Union, the 4th Reich. And by the time I read the, IT
was about half three in the morning and I decided to have a
walk around my house and I would come across objects that I got a
bad feeling about. And so I decided I would clear
my House of stuff that I felt wasn't right.
And I eventually ended up with a black sack full of junk.
What do you do with a black sack full of junk that you think's a
bit creepy? So I decided to put it outside.
I went to bed. When I woke up at about 8:30 in
the morning, the house had a beautiful piece to it.
And in my mind I felt that I'd been shown the light side.
And then it was like somebody said, I'll give you a taste of
the dark side. And that those experiences
started me on a journey of not only trying to work to warn
people about what was happening, how they were being attacked and
undermined, but it also took me on a journey where I started to
realise that this isn't simply on the men and political level,
this is a spiritual battle. And I always felt that this was
a subject that it was not for me to be too upfront about.
And so when I was doing public talks or when we, the UK column,
were doing public talks, if I was on the stage, people would
say at the end of a talk, do you think there's more to it than
men and politics? And I would say absolutely, it's
a spiritual battle. And then you could talk with a
small group of people. What you could not do at that
stage is talk like I'm talking to you now to a large group of
people because the war would just go up instantly.
So I stayed away from it, but I'm going to say to you that
that I have felt. More and more.
Over the last couple of years that the time is right for me to
talk about some of my experiences because of the
amazing stories that you guys have told me.
And it is incredible how many of you have told me.
I'm looking not not catching any eyes.
So we don't betray any confidences, but basically
people who've told me deeply personal stories which have got
a, a spiritual aspect to them. So I'm being very upfront here
and it's on camera and I think I've got to the stage of life
where the time is right for me to say it as it is.
But the important thing to understand in saying that it's a
spiritual battle is that don't go down the hole of Oh my
goodness, it's, it's, it's all satanic.
It's all this, it's all that, it's all dreadful.
And we can't do anything with it because the reality is that
there is a battle going on, but we are not the general in charge
of the fight. We are foot soldiers and we're
going to do the best we can. And the really dark stuff, you
have no, absolutely no reason to be frightened of it if you are
doing the right thing. And that is that you're being
true to yourself and you are actually behaving yourself in a
proper spiritual way. And I'm choosing my words very
carefully because I'd rather you went and did your research into
what I'm really talking about here.
There's some really good speakers on YouTube talking
about this. But if it's a spiritual battle,
we all need to be closer to God because God is where the power
is, and God can help all of us provided we open up to that
help. Now one of the talks that I did
in Alternative View where I had slides and a bit more of a
formal talk, I had a little video clip of a 19 eighty 1980s
BBC black and white documentary called The Witches.
And in that very good documentary, I'm sorry, I've had
to say, even though it was BBC, in that very good documentary,
they are talking about some really horrible things going on,
particularly with Colts and children.
And at one point they speak to a lady who has got herself out of
one of these very dark Colts. And they say to her, you've been
amongst these really nasty people.
Is is there anything they're frightened of?
And she looks at the camera and she says, oh, they are
frightened of prayer. Now, this morning in or
lunchtime in the news, I pointed out you've got a government that
wants to destroy prayer. This is not an accident.
I showed the little clip in front of an audience of 300
people. Later that evening there was an
open mic session. I'd been off to one side talking
to people. I came into the main bit.
There was a lady with a microphone and she said, and
that was just before Brian Garry started preaching.
And I thought, I don't remember preaching.
I think I mentioned God once in my talk.
Well, later I saw her in the bar and I said, you said that I was
preaching. Why did you say that?
And she said, well, you and she's rubbing her stomach.
You you mentioned God and and when you were talking, I didn't
feel well. It was it was utterly bizarre
watching her. And I said, I talk about God
once and you feel unwell. She said, I felt sick.
And I said, can I buy you a drink?
And she said, yeah, I have a glass of wine.
And we went over to a table and I said, tell me about yourself.
And what she started to tell me was she was a white witch.
And then she started to tell me that that was OK and what she
did and spells and potions and things.
And eventually she in her own story said, and we have to do
this to appease the elementals these, the earth, water, wind
and fire spirits, we have to do this.
Otherwise they can become aggressive.
So I said, so you're working with spiritual beings that can
become aggressive to you. And she looked at me a bit
strange. But then I began to realise that
because I had been talking about things in in a spiritual way,
this had impacted on her in a physical sense.
And I had ended up having a really good chat with her and
she turned out to be the essential oils lady.
And I ended up buying frankincense and myrrh from her.
And you're laughing. But I chose those because it was
a way of me. No, she wasn't selling gold,
unfortunately. But this was a way of me
building a little bit of a bond with her.
But I was also making a statement.
She knew what what I was doing. Now this is not my scene.
I was a Navy officer. I I've never been through a mega
devout family or anything like that.
So what I have told you about how the story of the UK column
opening up, this is me opening up to you and telling you what
happened. But what I'd like to leave on is
this important thing that we are in a huge battle, right?
And this is not a battle where it wants to just control you.
Ultimately it wants to destroy us.
I mean, completely. It's not in the gutter.
It's kicking you when you're in the gutter, right?
And to fight it, first of all, we have to realise that the
person in control of the battle is God.
So we don't have to worry about a lot of things.
But what we have to do is do our best and we have to treat people
properly. And there's some very key
advice. Love your God, love one another.
You can't be a member of the Tory or the Labor Party and
follow that because they're clearly not loving humanity, are
they? So I don't want to be perceived
as preaching, that's not my agenda.
But I am telling you my story and if you want my opinion, we
are in a mega spiritual battle and therefore the more you learn
about how to fight a spiritual battle and that includes praying
because when you pray, that's what connects you with God and
that's where you get the strength and the support and the
wisdom to make the right decisions into what you do on
the ground. I just pointed pick the finger
at Ben again because your picture of the satanic fingers
being raised and you know the picture of the beast of the
beasted, sorry, the horned beast which you saw.
This stuff is for real. The people bringing this
forward, this very dark agenda are the real deal.
That doesn't mean say that we're out to hate them.
What we have to do is recognise them for what they are and we
have to bring them down. And that is not with violence,
it's by exposure. And it's actually realising that
if that horrible dark side exists, the light side
absolutely exists and this world can and will go back to a
beautiful world. But for whatever reason, we are
collectively a generation which has been chosen to fight.
So you are all very special people.
The fact you're awake, is it a coincidence that you woke up?
Different things woke you up. This is all some amazing
coincidence. Or else there's a little
statement in the good book which says in the latter days I will
call my people. So I'm going to say to you, you
are a lot more special than you think.
And if you stay calm and measured and loving in choosing
how you're going to fight what's happening, we will really start
to be making progress. They are destroying the
Christian Church because it terrifies them.
They are destroying prayer. They're putting people in prison
for praying because that frightens the pants off them.
And just so that there's no misunderstanding about Angle, I
had the opportunity in my journey to give a talk in
Birmingham Central Mosque. It was a fantastic opportunity.
I gave a talk to the men because it was in the prayer hall
audience of about 150, I think, including the Special Branch
officer and also an MI Five guy, because at that stage every
mosque in the country had to have a security to security
representatives. They always wear the same shoes,
though, Charles, it's a bit of a giveaway, black Polish shoes.
I gave a talk about what was happening.
I told that assembled Asian but Muslim community that they were
to be the new Jews and they looked at me with just
amazement. Why did I say that to them?
Because I somehow knew that they were going to be slaughtered.
I didn't know it was Gaza or wherever, but I knew something
was coming. So I told that audience they
were to be the new Jews. When I finished talking to the
men, I came into the foyer area of the mosque, which was full of
women and children, really big area.
And then I realised that my talk had come over a public address
system, so all the women had heard what I had say.
I got surrounded by a lot of the ladies who asked me lots of
questions and I spent about South.
My talk was two hours. By the time I'd answered,
questions came in the foyer talk to the women.
That was about an hour and a half.
And then when I left the foyer to go to my car, I was followed
by about 30 young Asian guys. I'm not sure what was going to
happen. Initially I got pinned against
my car and then all the questions started again and I
spent about an hour talking to them.
And I, I'm going to just say to you that they are not our
enemies, right? There's another part of this
story I won't do because on the limits of time, they are not our
enemy. And one of the clues is that the
dedicated Muslims will tell you that the teachings in the
mosques has been changed. What's taught in the mosques now
is stuff that their parents and their fathers, grandfathers
never heard before. And this is a new, this is a new
Muslim text which is coming in with the money that builds the
mosques. And it's coming in from UA, UAE
and Qatar. So if they're having to attack
Islam and they're really having to attack Christianity, they're
frightened of both true faiths. And I have recently been with
some pretty devout Christian groups where I've had to go
through this business of explaining to them that the
moment they get on the hate side, they're on the wrong side
because you can't be for God and hating other people.
And I've made quite a lot of progress, certainly locally,
because I've now been invited to do some talks with some of them,
my local Christians, which I take as a great compliment
because I'm largely untaught. But they powers that be want
everybody at each other's throats, black, whites, Asian,
Christians, whatever it the division is.
And our job is to avoid that because then we can fight the
battle. So I've told you about me.
I've been really honest. I don't wake up scared.
I'm not thinking about somebody topping me because I think,
well, I'm going to go when God's ready for me to go.
And since I realised it was a spiritual battle and you can be
calm because the generals got it under control, life's better.
But do we need to fight? Yes, because you can't say it's
somebody else's problem, you know, you're an adult man or
woman. We got to fight and that's what
I've been doing. That's what the UK columns been
doing. I think that's why I don't know
where a man called Charles Mallett appeared and he was Army
and I regard that as very significant because if you've
been RAF, I'd have been worried, Charles.
So there you have it. If you think you're listening to
a different person, you're not. It's just I've been very
measured about how I talk about this today.
I decided to share it all with you and I'm very happy to answer
questions, so do your best. Thank you.
Can I ask you if you think this goes back the spiritual war to
ancient times? Well, of course, because it's
spiritual and inevitably that goes back.
But if if you wanted to put a marker down, an easy marker, and
I will use my good friend Alex Thompson, who is incredibly
knowledgeable on these matters because of because of his
intense knowledge of the Bible and the biblical languages,
we're talking Babylon. Yeah, that's what I was getting
getting at, really. So so practises, ceremonies,
signs, symptoms. When you actually start to look
at it, it may be couched in a new modern video, but what
you're actually looking is something around the Babylonian
era. To do with King David and King
Solomon practise the oh sorry, King David and King Solomon.
Well, this is this is where it goes back to and, and you know,
let's reach the topic. This is where it gets interested
if you go into the Masonic movement because this is where
it's that the Masonic movement is heavily focused.
The. Yeah.
Hi. Hi.
Sorry I didn't really. I just wanted to ask you again.
So you're saying you felt like you were having a spiritual
attack? Doesn't that isn't that kind of
like counter intuitive? You said about the other lady,
it didn't make any sense that her spirits would attack her.
But then you said you had a spiritual attack.
Are you saying you're, you know God?
What's the lady who said she was a white witch?
Yes, well, the lady who said she was a white witch was talking
about making spells. Which?
Didn't harm anybody. She said right, But she said
when we when we are using, when we are, well, spells, spells and
potions, She said when we're creating potions for this, we
have to say a little prayer for the elementals.
And when I asked why, she said because we do this because they
can be a bit fractious and we say the little prayer to keep
them calm. I said.
To her, I said to her, so you
are, you're doing what you're doing, but you're dealing with,
we'll call them beings that can come back at you, right?
And you were questioning that. That was my point.
You were questioning that these beings would attack her.
But then you said you had a spiritual attack from God.
So it's the same thing. I didn't.
That's why I misunderstood. Right when when I said I was
under a spiritual attack and I felt disgustingly I'll that is
can't be an attack from God. That's why that's why I'm asking
you. That's why I was.
Confusing attack from the dark side.
Ohh right that's why I was confused.
I think you were saying that right?
You found God and then God attacked you to make you realise
what it would be like if you didn't that.
OK, thank you. In my mind that's it was so
clear. It was so horrible that you
know, I knew whatever it was was, you know, I I should have
qualified it and said a dark spiritual attack.
But if you if you feel unbelievably unwell and it was a
disgusting experience, some something nasty was attacking me
and I'm going to say it was the dark side.
And and in this, well, there's another lady there.
What? What was the?
I I wanted to just say on. What that she, I, I, to be
honest, I can't remember what originally came, came back and
some of it is blurry now as to you know, I, it wasn't as if I
logged it down each day. It was just that in, in my head,
it sort of answered where I was. And have I have I paid more
attention to the Bible? Yes.
And I think it's, it's a good thing to do.
But you got to watch the Bible because it can drag you into a
lot of stuff, which is to do with the world and people.
And but the, the, the basic message of the New Testament is
just so simple. How could anybody not understand
it? But you know, I'm looking at you
and trying to judge how you're taking this.
But for me, it's absolutely clear that you got this battle
going on between what is essentially good and love and
light and another force which is, which is cruel, deceptive,
callous. It's it's everything negative
lady. Yeah, on that note, was it?
Did it take? Oh, sorry it took that attack
for you to know that that was. That it was real, I I believe.
Yeah, I was suggesting. You have to hit rock bottom to
get back up again. It was almost like you had to
have that attack to know that you was being attacked by the
dark side in. The first instance what I was
shown was the light, and then it was like, now I've shown you the
light, I'll show you a bit of what the dark side can do.
Yeah, It was just to say that, yeah, it took that dark side to
yeah. Like, I don't know, like
epiphany kind of thing. Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, Yeah, I. Just want to take the mic.
Take the mic. Take the mic.
Thanks for that. What what Brian's explaining to
you there with the two extremes, to fully appreciate 1, you had
to fully appreciate 1, you have to have experience the other.
Yeah, that would make sense to me.
Yeah, Yeah. And something I better say,
because I think it's important to say that that I experienced
this and then on my journey through 20 years with the UK
column, I've met other people who who will talk about these
sorts of things happening to them.
So that's very reassuring because you have a conversation
with somebody else who absolutely knows what you're
talking. But in me telling you this, I
don't make the mistake of thinking that makes Brian Garish
some special person because I am not a St right.
And no, well, well, I I can I can only describe it as as best
I can, but take that. But just this business of, of
people who experience this sort of stuff and it really makes you
think because you're experiencing things, which is
out of an easy material world. It's difficult to describe some
of these things. I could talk to you probably for
another hour about other stuff. But the trap I don't think I've
ever fallen into is therefore thinking, because this happened
to me, that makes me mega special.
In fact, I can tell you on a couple of occasions I maybe did
something which was a bit foolish and, and I think I was
put in my place pretty quickly. Well, that's that's an
experience between me and God. But should you open your minds
up to the fact that what we're into is much bigger than just
bad corporations and people working together to control the
world? No, it's more than that.
OK. OK.
Yeah, OK. Thank you, Brian.
Wonderful. I have so much empathy for
everything you've said what they're, I think we should never
be frightened of these terrible things.
Never because it's us that they're frightened of, correct?
The divine within us. And we're not up there
somewhere, but in US and our connection with that, whatever,
whatever our belief system is, but that higher self, that
beautiful self. And that's what, you know, we
just need to speak from our heart and do from our heart
everything we do. And that is what they hate.
They hate us to be happy. They hate us to be joyous.
This this is this is very important what this lady is
saying and UK column. We are often saying it in extra
how important it is that you stay well, you take time out to
relax and clear your head and you stay happy.
The happier you are, and I'm going to add to that, the more
loving you are to other people, the.
More. The powers hate it so you get a
double win. The better you are in yourself,
the stronger you are, but the more the other side are
absolutely angry because everything they're doing is to
crush us. And so if you demonstrate, not
only are you not being crushed, but you're keeping a sense of
humour, you're still enjoying as much of life as you can and
you're battling you. You're doing a really good job.
Is this a battle for our souls? And what is a soul to you?
Do I think it's battle for our souls?
Yes. Because you know, when you, when
you start to think this through, you're into this key bit is, is
the flesh and blood all there is or is there something else?
And for me, or just say for me and everything that I've read
and paid attention to, it makes sense that actually we're all
connected. I'm going to say God because I
find it easy to work that way. We are connected to God through
a a soul and that souls inside us.
And it's not. It's not actually part of the
body. But I can't prove that to you.
I can only say what my journeys LED led me to believe.
Never thought I'd be having a discussion like this with an
audience in 2025. Hello Ryan.
Have you ever been to Bali? I lived there personally for six
months and it's the most spiritual place I've ever been.
And I will say, before I went there, I was sort of all over
the place a bit and being there for six months, it gave me at
least 6-7 years of the after effects of it.
The most lovely people, predominantly Hindu, but even
the other faiths, all, it's just the most spiritual place to be.
And the people, the majority of people, the Balians don't have
anything. They're very basics, you know,
but they're so happy, smiley. And, you know, if that's heaven
on earth. And I would say to anybody, if
you get a chance, go to Bali. OK, thank.
Thank you for that. I I think this is a really
important point because we haven't got time to go into sort
of the debate on other religions that one of the books I read
very early on was called one the 11 World Religion by a man
called Lee Penn PE double N. And in that book, very thick
book with a lot of footnotes, he's warning that basically all
of the religions in the world are being attacked in order to
fuse them. And the fusing of them is the
corruption of all of them to create basically the the satanic
one world system. So I, I find it quite easy to
appreciate that actually any faith system that is essentially
based on loving people and certainly not harming anybody is
being now rounded up to be pushed into this very brutal one
world religion system. It is, it is a fat book.
It's quite expensive, but it's well worth reading because it's
research is is. I think it's phenomenal.
Hi, yes, you're talking about it's not corporations.
Don't think about it's just corporations.
It's, it's a spiritual war, a spiritual battle.
I mean, I've been listening to a few researchers that have been
like, well, podcasts like Wake the Dead and William Ramsay who
look into true crime and looking at the order of the 9 angles and
stuff. And these secret societies that
we might not be on Skull and Bones that we're not Privy to
because we're not elite. We're not part of the elite
system that are basically Satanists.
And, and what I'm saying is, you know, you can't have, if you're
not a believer in God as we've been told as children or
something in these sort of like organised religion, but
believing the creator. There's got to be light and
dark, you know, and there's definitely a lot of darkness
going on right now. So what I'm saying is, you know,
these, these organisations are satanic and it's coming through,
it's coming through them. And look at how psychopathic
they are. No empathy for no one.
This is true, but something I'd say to you straight off is that
if you've done enough research to be confident these nasty
organisations are there, stop doing research on them.
Because the more you research the dark side, the more it pulls
you into the abyss, right? So when, when you've done enough
to understand it's real, you don't need to do anymore.
You don't need to understand how it works because it's so
complex. The tentacles are so complex.
You, you will actually destroy yourself continuing to go into
that route. And there's a lot of people who
fall for this. And then they do this research
late at night and then they have problems.
So once once you are confident you can see what's there that's
dark. My advice is leave it alone
because you you don't need to research it to win.
Yes, agree. Hello Brian and more.
I'll come to you. I've forgotten you.
This will be the last. This lady will be the last one.
Pen Ultimate. Pen ultimate I wanted to ask you
about what you were saying before is if you think there
might be the soul not being actually part of our body, but
it exists somewhere else and we Tran and and it's like a
transmission and there's spiritually dark forces which
clearly, clearly, seemingly manifest and it's undeniable
because you feel feel them often times.
Is that like an attempt to an attempt to interfere with the
transmission or the link between the soul of us and and and the
God thing? In my opinion, yes.
And and This is why the praying is so clear.
You sit or you stand and you're praying.
Who? Who are you actually hurting?
And yet the government wants to put you in Britain.
It's because if you, if you adhere to the rules of the dark
side, the prayer has got a power because you are communicating
with God and they want to stop it.
I just wanted to say I, I liked, I, I really like what you said
and I think it's very important. I, I don't really need to
reiterate something you've already said, but I've
experienced myself the, the researching of really dark stuff
sometimes can actually defeat the absolutely.
It it can be, it can be unhealthy and and it can also
sometimes be disinformative as well.
Absolutely, because it will be everything negative and dark.
Last question. I'm wondering what you view
might be like in order to become more of a spiritual.
Beyond that, you don't need an organised religion because that
also tears and cause division as well.
So by learning to be inside of ourselves and to be ourselves
because we are all God, we're all God.
I agree. I agree with that largely, but
I'm going to say in my mind, there's still scriptural stuff
that you can learn from people over the, you know, centuries
can be very wise people and have written very wise things.
And I, I think that there is, there is good education in good
scripture, but I'm not going to, I don't want to get into that
here because it, it's just, it's just not right.
I, I have given you a really Frank recount of my story as to
how I got here and how I, how I think.
And so I, I'd like to just leave you guys with the fact that
we're in this immense battle, but the God's in control.
You haven't got to worry. If you do X&Y, the whole thing's
going to fall apart. You just do as much as you can,
but you've got to do the other things with it because if you're
not trying to do the right things on a spiritual level in
the right sense, you're, you're losing anyway.
You're helping the other side. But be happy.
That's a really good starting place.
Be happy. Wasn't that a tune?
OK. Thanks very much.