1 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:23,080 Well, hello, good afternoon. You've been left with me for the 2 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:27,120 final slot, so I hope I'm going to be able to keep you awake. 3 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,000 And the first thing I'll say is I don't have any slides or 4 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,400 videos or any of this stuff. I'm going to talk. 5 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:39,600 And the other thing is that. When we do events, it's quite 6 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:45,160 interesting because quite often the speakers don't don't easily 7 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:47,640 know what they're going to talk about and. 8 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,040 Patrick Henderson will tell you this, that time goes on and you 9 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,160 know you got to do something and you know you got to do 10 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,160 something. And then and then all of a 11 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,440 sudden maybe an idea comes into your head and it, it just sort 12 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,920 of grows. And then speakers have their 13 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,040 segments. And what we've often found is 14 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,720 surprisingly, these sort of segments that come out of 15 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:12,160 nowhere then fit together. And I, I felt a bit like this 16 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,720 for the Hope event because Charles has been chasing us for 17 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,400 ages. What are we going to talk about? 18 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,400 And I couldn't really get a grip of it. 19 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,200 And then I'm going to say to you, I woke up last night at 20 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,000 3:00 for reasons we won't go into. 21 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:36,880 And into my head came what I covered for the news, which was 22 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,760 talking about what was happening with the churches in Cornwall. 23 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,760 And that's a little story in some ways, but actually the 24 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,800 implications, the implications are huge. 25 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,760 So life can be very unexpected. And I'm going to say to you, 26 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:56,080 well, ask a question. Am I amongst friends this 27 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:01,200 afternoon? OK, I'm, I'm looking for those 28 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,880 Incognito reporters that I'm sure there, but it's going to be 29 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,320 recorded anyway. So I've made a decision. 30 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,199 The time is right to do this with you guys. 31 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,880 I have talked about some of this with an audience at Alternative 32 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,160 View, which was Ian Crane's masterpiece of getting people 33 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,880 together. So it's possible some of you 34 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,800 might have heard some of what I'm going to talk about because 35 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:31,840 I'm going to talk about my journey through into the UK 36 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,680 column. But it it's it's pretty poignant 37 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,840 and I'm very happy that when we get into to questions, you can 38 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,120 really challenge me or get stuck into me. 39 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:50,320 So if I go back, in case anybody doesn't know, I spent 21 years 40 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,240 in the military in the Navy. Navy's always been very good 41 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,520 friends with the Army. If there's any trouble, it's 42 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,440 always the Army and the Navy that are there, usually with the 43 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,600 Royal Marines. And then we wait to see whether 44 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,320 the RAF is going to appear. Anybody from the RAF here? 45 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,560 No, see, there we are. I, I, I, I could. 46 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,720 I'm going to be hacked to pieces for that comment when it comes 47 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,520 out on a video. We, we love you, really, but 48 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,560 you're just not. Yeah, there was a Spitfire went 49 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,320 over earlier in the afternoon. Did anybody see it? 50 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,600 We saw it. Absolutely fantastic. 51 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:38,480 OK, so I did my 21 years and I have to say I really enjoyed 98% 52 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,480 of it. There is, in my opinion, nothing 53 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,360 like being at sea. I really enjoyed that and 54 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,400 something I always enjoyed was rough weather. 55 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,080 Maybe I was a bit strange on that. 56 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,320 I did get seasick in the beginning but that sort of wears 57 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,080 off after a while. But if you are at sea in a big 58 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:03,840 storm, it puts you in your place pretty quickly because you start 59 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,720 to realise how minuscule the ship is and how minuscule you 60 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,080 are. And, and I found that this is 61 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:16,240 actually a really interesting thing to experience because when 62 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:22,600 it's mega rough Force 10 was the most I got into up off the north 63 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,520 of of Scotland. And I'm pleased to say we did 64 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,040 survive. But you start to wonder. 65 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:34,440 And so it's, it's an event which makes you think about the world 66 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,760 and also your place in the world and really how significant you 67 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,400 are. But anyway, the military time 68 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,440 was really good. But in the late, sorry, in the, 69 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:51,200 in the late 80s and into the 90s, I started to realise that 70 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,040 things in the military were changing. 71 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:59,680 I detected a sort of change in the, what's the word, the 72 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,080 philosophy that I didn't particularly like. 73 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,920 And I thought it was going to get worse. 74 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,600 I felt that I'd had the best out of it. 75 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:14,200 And so there's no doubt about this because there's still error 76 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,800 and misinformation floating around the Internet. 77 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,560 I was an anti submarine warfare officer. 78 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,720 I was not a submariner. I did not drive. 79 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,120 Or operate on board submarines, although I did a couple of trips 80 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,800 on board nuclear submarines, so my job. 81 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:36,080 Was to track and find those nasty Russian nuclear submarines 82 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,640 that the BBC so terrified of. That's what I did. 83 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,720 But I wasn't a submariner. And you have to stress that 84 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,680 because anybody gets a hint who's a submariner, you're dead, 85 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,800 man, because you got to be the real thing. 86 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,760 You mustn't claim something you're not. 87 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:57,000 So I just want to set that out. So the military, I did my bit. 88 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,200 I thoroughly enjoyed it. But I'd lived through a system 89 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,760 that I believed in. And if you're in the military, 90 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,720 in the Navy, every morning at 8:00, if you're the duty person, 91 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,640 you're up saluting the flag. And that represents the royal 92 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,400 family and the country, and you are. 93 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:19,360 In a system which is very much, very much controlled by the 94 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,840 governing system and you believe in that system and you also 95 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:26,840 believe that you are there to keep people safe and you can 96 00:06:26,840 --> 00:06:29,200 have a good time at the same same time. 97 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,840 I didn't get near any of the trouble. 98 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:36,240 I got down to the Falklands 2 days after the Armistice had 99 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,560 been signed. So on the way down we were 100 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,240 expecting to fight like the other units were. 101 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,480 But in the event, by the time I got down there, the fighting was 102 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,800 over and we had six months of patrolling the Falkland Islands, 103 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,400 which is a unique experience with none of the excitement, 104 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,240 having to listen to all the stories of the people who'd been 105 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,960 through the exciting times. I lost four, I can't say 106 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,800 friends, I'll say 3 close acquaintances and two others 107 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:10,440 that that I joined up with. They died in the Falklands so 108 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,080 that impacted on me. But I didn't go through the real 109 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,760 thing. Charles has been through the 110 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,880 real thing. But I didn't. 111 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,680 So I got to consider myself very lucky when when I came out of 112 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:28,400 the Navy, I initially tried to get into a normal job. 113 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,520 Inverted comments. I didn't really have much luck 114 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,560 finding a job. I did some psychometric tests 115 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,560 with a couple of companies and invariably the person came back 116 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,520 smiling because the psychometric test said that I was best suited 117 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,160 to the military. So at least the tests were 118 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,000 accurate. But you know, that was that was 119 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,000 a bit of fun. And so eventually with another 120 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,040 ex Navy guy we set up a little consultancy. 121 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,360 Interesting. It was energy management. 122 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,480 This is the start of all the stuff to do about energy coming 123 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,240 through, which I wasn't aware of. 124 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,760 And we were reasonably successful. 125 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,920 We paid the bills, which is the main thing. 126 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,320 And then later I joined a slightly bigger company and 127 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,400 that's when I began to discover the trouble in Plymouth and 128 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:20,960 large amounts of government money were coming through the 129 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,240 city. They were not being used 130 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,040 properly. They were being misappropriated. 131 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,560 And I was looking at fraud and corruption. 132 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:33,960 And then when I attempted to expose that, the backlash was 133 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:37,919 phenomenal. So it was late night phone 134 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:41,320 calls, knocks on the front door in the middle of the night, used 135 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,600 hypodermic needles in the flower baskets outside my home. 136 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:50,240 My family, some of them received, I'll say passive 137 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:55,720 aggressive, threatening emails. My business partner was warned 138 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,480 off that if I didn't shut my mouth he he would lose 139 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,560 contracts. So I I went from living in this 140 00:09:02,560 --> 00:09:06,000 very organised world in the military to coming into civilian 141 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,000 life and suddenly my world exploded. 142 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:15,200 And in standing up and talking and publishing some things about 143 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,280 what was happening. The beauty of the Internet was 144 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,480 that other people came in contact with me and they started 145 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,680 to say what you are seeing happening in Plymouth, the the 146 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,480 corporate bullying, the fraud and the corruption that's 147 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,840 happening in, it's happening in Sheffield, it's happening in 148 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,120 Leeds, it's happening in in Glasgow. 149 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:42,200 And so I was beginning to interact with other people and 150 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,360 information was coming in to me about these amazing things 151 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,600 happening in other cities. Very often where people were 152 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:54,400 suffering because they they, they'd lost businesses or they'd 153 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,000 been bullied or they'd been falsely accused. 154 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,960 And it was, it was a real journey and an eye opener into 155 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:06,600 the fact that my country was absolutely not as I thought it 156 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,720 was. And I was particularly upset 157 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,560 with the police because in my head, while I'd been doing my 158 00:10:12,560 --> 00:10:15,920 bit in the military, it was clear to me that the police had 159 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,840 not been doing their bit cleaning up the criminality in 160 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:26,280 this country in this period. And if, if I'll say we're very 161 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,040 end of the 90s or just in to 2000s. 162 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,640 I also started to experience some unusual things in that I'd 163 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,400 be looking at one of the local newspapers and I'd see an 164 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,520 article and it was like that article sort of jumped off the 165 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,520 page and I'd read it and then I'd reread it and I'd think 166 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,360 that's a bit weird. One of the key ones was I 167 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,800 discovered that the Bishop of Exeter was sharing a meeting 168 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,320 which was about elected regional assemblies and I was very 169 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,680 surprised that a religious leader would be actually running 170 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:07,920 a highly political meeting. And when I challenged his PA, 171 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,120 she didn't like me at all and I didn't get much information 172 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,120 about why he was doing it. So I started to get these little 173 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,720 glimpses of strange things going on. 174 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,840 Another little one was a very, very weird article where they've 175 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,440 been looking at security in some of the more impoverished areas 176 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,360 in Plymouth and they've been talking about putting gates in 177 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:38,400 to stop people moving through alleyways at the back of areas 178 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,280 of flats. And in the article it said that 179 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:48,080 they they now got the ability aside from CCTV to also be 180 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:51,520 listening, to have microphones so that they could also listen 181 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,320 at the same time. And the, the there was a 182 00:11:55,320 --> 00:12:00,160 sentence in this article that said the things being narrated 183 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,280 from the view of the Plymouth City Council. 184 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:07,200 It said, we, we need to give people, we need to let people 185 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,040 know that we're listening to them. 186 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,720 And I just thought, what bizarre little comment because what did 187 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,880 that mean? It was almost like we need to 188 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,040 get people to understand that what they're doing is being 189 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,560 listened to. So these things started to crop 190 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:26,720 up. And, and then one morning I was 191 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,240 at home in my kitchen and the, I think it was the mobile phone 192 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,760 rang first. And it was a guy I hadn't spoken 193 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,400 to for at least a couple of years. 194 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,080 And he said, oh, hello, Brian, don't really know why I'm 195 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,160 calling you, but I thought you needed to know this. 196 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,280 And he gave me a little package of information about wrongdoing 197 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,240 and, and I said, why did you call me? 198 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,640 And he said, why? I don't really know, but you're 199 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,960 the only person I could think of to give this information to. 200 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:59,080 So I, I decided to call you. So I took the information we had 201 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,880 a. A quick exchange, polite 202 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,920 exchange and then I put the phone down, bit mystified, and 203 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,840 the next thing it rang again and it was another person. 204 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,360 Hello Brian, how are you this morning? 205 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,520 I don't really know why I'm calling but I thought you needed 206 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,080 to know X. Well, then the mobile phone rang 207 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:23,560 and then the landline went and then the I took 11 calls back to 208 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:27,760 back with 11 different people calling me one morning to tell 209 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,280 me about weird things going on, criminality, people being 210 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,400 bullied, stuff happening with people's children. 211 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,720 And by the time the last one finished, I thought, that's 212 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,480 pretty weird, what's what's going on? 213 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:46,080 So my life then continued with learning about the fraud and 214 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,920 corruption. I had a little website where we 215 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:56,560 were starting to publish bits and pieces and, and I'd got some 216 00:13:56,560 --> 00:13:59,560 friends around me in Plymouth who were also starting to 217 00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:02,680 realise that there was something underwater in, in the country. 218 00:14:03,560 --> 00:14:06,520 And so at least I could chat to them. 219 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,360 But Even so, these very weird little things, you could almost 220 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,440 call them coincidences happened. And invariably when they did, I 221 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:20,840 got information. Well, one morning, when was 222 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,480 this? I'm going to guess and say 223 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:27,400 probably about 2002, possibly 2003. 224 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:33,880 So three years before the start of the UK column, I was at home 225 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:38,320 in my little office space that I got at home and I was, I was 226 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,880 working on a report and the phone rang and it was a friend 227 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,560 of mine called Paul. And he's, he, he was an 228 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,960 architect. He was working down in Plymouth 229 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,680 in Cornwall. And he, he said to me straight 230 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,280 away, hello Brian, what are you doing today? 231 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,120 And I said, I got some reports to write Paul. 232 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,600 And he said no, you're not, you're coming to see me. 233 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,320 And I said, Paul, I got to do these reports. 234 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,080 No, you're not. You're going to come and see me 235 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,160 Paul. I got to do these reports. 236 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,000 He said, alright, then when can you come and see me? 237 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,320 And I said, well, I got a free day next week. 238 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:12,880 I could come and see you next week. 239 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:18,000 And he said, no, no, you come and see me tomorrow. 240 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,000 So I said why? And he said, don't bother with 241 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,640 that. You just come and see me. 242 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:29,840 And I said, Paul, where and, and he, he's, he said basically 243 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:34,640 Land's End, which was, you know, a good hour and 45 minutes for 244 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,240 me, maybe 2 hours depending on the, the traffic. 245 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:43,080 And I said, Paul, I, I possibly could come tomorrow, but I can't 246 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,880 go all the way to Land's End. It's, it's too far. 247 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,960 And he said, OK, you come to my place in Truro that's about an 248 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:55,000 hour and 20 minutes away. So I said, OK, I asked him again 249 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,200 why? And he just said, come. 250 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,720 And I've known this guy for a very long time and I trusted 251 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,240 him. So I thought, well, OK, I'll go. 252 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,040 So the next day is a very sunny day. 253 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,440 I leave home at about 9:00 in my car. 254 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,600 I have a lovely drive down into Cornwall. 255 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,280 The sun is shining. Cornwall's at his best. 256 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,840 And I'm thinking to myself, what are you doing? 257 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:25,280 I get to his house, park the car, knock on the door, and a 258 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:30,760 lady that I'd never met before opened the door and I said, oh, 259 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,160 I'm here to see Paul. And she said, yes, I know. 260 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,040 And I said, is he here? And she said, oh, no, he's out 261 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,520 with the dog. And I thought, I've just driven 262 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:45,920 an hour and 20 minutes to come down and strange Lady Paul's out 263 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,240 with the dog. And I said to her, to her, I 264 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:52,320 don't really know what's going on because Paul was insistent. 265 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,640 I came down and she looked at me. 266 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,160 And then she said, well, you're here because of me. 267 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,800 And I looked at her and I said, well, that's interesting. 268 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,079 Why? Because of you? 269 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,040 And she said, well, it's a bit of a story. 270 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:13,000 Would you like a cup of tea? And I said, I think I deserve 1. 271 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,520 So I went in and this particular lady was called Jackie, started 272 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,359 to make a cup of tea. And I said, Jackie, I'm really 273 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,480 confused because Paul was insistent I come down. 274 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,880 He's not even here. You're telling me I'm here 275 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,120 because of you? You know how does this work? 276 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,640 And she looked at me and she said, well, you, you're going to 277 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,960 find this very strange. But she said, I, I can 278 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:42,920 experience things when it's like somebody's talking to me or I 279 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:47,800 can have very vivid dreams and somebody is talking to me. 280 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:53,000 And when it happens, she said, and she's looking at me very 281 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,600 intently, she said it is God talking to me. 282 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,560 And I looked at her and I said, OK, where you know, where do I 283 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,480 fit into this? And she said, well, I had a she 284 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,560 is saying this. I had a very vivid dream and you 285 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,280 were in the dream Brian and Paul was in the dream and another 286 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,080 friend who's also called Paul. So 2 Pauls. 287 00:18:17,120 --> 00:18:24,400 And I was in the dream and I waited and it stopped there and 288 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,160 I said so how does this? You know, how does this affect 289 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:28,920 me? You don't. 290 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,120 You don't know me. And she said, well, I do know 291 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:35,120 you because Paul's told me a lot about what you're doing, what 292 00:18:35,120 --> 00:18:38,440 you're seeing. Pause. 293 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,960 And so I said, OK, So what does that mean? 294 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:45,560 And she said, well, I had the very powerful dream and and 295 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:52,000 that's usually God talking to me and I and and then she added, 296 00:18:52,360 --> 00:18:56,160 and that means I have a message. So I said to her. 297 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,760 I said, OK, what's the message? And she said, oh, that's The 298 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:07,640 funny thing, I don't know. At this point the cup of tea 299 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:13,760 arrived and we sat at the kitchen table and I'm sort of 300 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,880 stirring my tea thinking. I said to her, Jackie, tell me a 301 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,800 bit about yourself. And so she started to tell me a 302 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,640 little bit about her personal story. 303 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,120 Some of it is very personal, which I'm not going to repeat to 304 00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:27,960 you. But in essence, she'd had a 305 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,720 tough. Life as a single mum. 306 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,960 Then she'd started a project in Cornwall called the Reminiscent 307 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:38,160 Project Reminiscence. And the idea was that they got 308 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:42,600 young sort of primary school children into the residential 309 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:47,080 homes and the care homes to meet with elderly people. 310 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,720 And the elderly people talked about their lives and their 311 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:55,240 professions. And she said it just took off. 312 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,560 Everybody loved it, the children loved it, the elderly people 313 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,960 loved it. And this project went from 314 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,480 nothing to the fact that several schools got interested. 315 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:09,320 And she said I had a lovely job bringing the children together 316 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,360 with the elderly people. And she said it, it had been 317 00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:17,280 going really well. For quite some time and then one 318 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:21,200 day a lady turned up and she said Jackie, I can think I can 319 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,920 help you get some funding to support your project and and 320 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,960 make it grow. And Jackie said, so this lady 321 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,080 got involved and she did get a little bit of money, but she 322 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:38,240 said then things started to go wrong and it it was friction in 323 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,800 her little project which she never had before. 324 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:45,440 And then she said, the lady said I've got a friend, another lady 325 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,040 and she can do XY and Z and she can help your project. 326 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,520 And Jackie said when the second lady got involved, the first 327 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,560 thing she discovered is the 2 ladies were having a special 328 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,760 relationship together. But she said then things got 329 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,720 even worse and my wonderful little project started to 330 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,440 breakdown. And then they accused me of 331 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,480 having an affair with a vicar. And then it turned into a 332 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,920 nightmare. And then she started to tell me 333 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,800 another part of the story and she got to a particular point 334 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,480 and I said to her, I will tell you what happened next. 335 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,040 She said well. How, how do you know? 336 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,280 And I said, well, because I'm learning some some interesting 337 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,360 things at the moment and I think I know what happened. 338 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,160 And she said, alright, you tell me. 339 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,400 So I told her what happened and she looked at me in amazement 340 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,760 and said that's exactly what happened. 341 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,000 That's incredible. How do you know that? 342 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:48,440 And I said, Jackie, all over the country there are terrible 343 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,480 things starting to happen amongst communities and amongst 344 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,960 people especially that are trying to do good things. 345 00:21:55,520 --> 00:22:00,720 People come alongside them, they appear to be good and then in no 346 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,560 time at all their projects are broken down. 347 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,400 There's animosity, there's friction. 348 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,000 And I've been talking to people all over the country. 349 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,240 I've been talking to people in Scotland and the Midlands and 350 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,840 Northern Ireland. And when you get talking 351 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:21,360 criminality, corruption and something else that comes with 352 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:25,320 it. And I said to Jackie, as this 353 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:30,160 conversation is flowing, I, I think what we need to do is get 354 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,280 out there and teach people because people are being 355 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,200 attacked, but they can't see it and they don't understand what's 356 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,080 attacking them. And as I said this to her, her 357 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,960 whole demeanour changed. And in a still in a lady's 358 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,240 voice, but in a very authoritarian voice, she said, 359 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,360 you are to get out and you're to travel. 360 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,120 Excuse me? You are to teach people. 361 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,640 You are to explain what's happening and why it's 362 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,960 happening. And then she said to me, oh, I'm 363 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,600 really sorry. I get carried away. 364 00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:10,440 And I find myself saying to her, you've just given me the 365 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:15,680 message. And this was utterly bizarre 366 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,360 experience. Well, at that moment, in through 367 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:20,680 the door comes my friend Paul with his dog. 368 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,800 He's back from the walk. And we then have a a little 369 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:30,080 conversation with our cups of tea over the breakdown of 370 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,720 society in UK and the fact that when this breakdown is 371 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,400 happening, something dark comes with it. 372 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,520 And maybe Ben in his talk to you. 373 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,360 And none of our talks were planned. 374 00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:44,520 Ben had no idea what I was going to talk about. 375 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,560 But Ben started to talk about something essentially dark 376 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:55,160 coming into the music scene. So I sat and I had a chat for 377 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,360 maybe a couple of hours with Jackie and my friend Paul. 378 00:23:58,360 --> 00:24:02,720 And then I had to go and I'm in the car on the way back in the 379 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,360 sunshine, and my head was literally spinning. 380 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:08,480 And I'm thinking, this is a bit of a joke on myself because I 381 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,520 thought I'm not trained for this military man, so you've got to 382 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:16,560 be trained. And as I was thinking that my 383 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,000 very old mobile phone went beep beep which was a message. 384 00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:22,280 And when I got home and looked at it. 385 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,600 It was a text from this lady Jackie with a little quote from 386 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,000 the Bible. And I'm going to say that little 387 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:34,320 quote absolutely answered the turmoil that was in my head. 388 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:41,280 Over the next couple of months, sometimes two or three times a 389 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,680 week, sometimes once a week, every other week, If ever I got 390 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,760 down in what I was doing, that phone would go beep, beep, and 391 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,280 then would come a little message from the Bible. 392 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,800 And I'm, I'm not a person who was well read on the Bible and 393 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,560 I'm not going to tell you I'm well read now. 394 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:05,440 I'm telling you my story. So this interesting experience 395 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,440 happened and these messages had come in. 396 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,120 For a while and then one afternoon there was a it was 397 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:15,360 about 2:45 in the afternoon. There was a knock on my front 398 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:18,920 door and I opened it. And there was a really tall guy 399 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,840 I, I knew through my days in UKIP, he was called Ted. 400 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,520 And he was holding an overhead projector, if you remember those 401 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,480 wonderful things, with a acetate sheet that you put on the top to 402 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,000 project onto a screen. And I said, Ted, what are you 403 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,720 doing? And he said, to be honest, 404 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,320 Brian, I'm not too sure, but I thought you'd need this. 405 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,640 And he gave me the overhead projector. 406 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:48,000 And I said, Ted come in and have a chat and he said, I can't, the 407 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,520 wife's off to me, I'll go and get the screen. 408 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,840 And he disappeared over the road and next thing he came with one 409 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,840 of the big pull up screens so that you could show the images. 410 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,840 And then he was gone. And I, I was in my hall looking 411 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,800 at the overhead projector in the screen. 412 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,640 And I'm thinking somebody's trying to give me a message 413 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,920 here. And about a week later, I 414 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:17,640 decided to give a talk and I gave the talk in the the old, 415 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,880 what do you call it, the Women's Institute. 416 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:25,200 Hall. In my village, 17 people came, a 417 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,960 mixture. There was, there were, there 418 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,080 were several from local churches and some not. 419 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,000 And at midnight, having talked to them about what was going on 420 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,960 in the country, I was saying to them, go home. 421 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,280 I had to kick them out because they wouldn't go home. 422 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,600 And that was the first talk I ever did. 423 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:51,080 And public talks following that is, is up into the hundreds. 424 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,560 I, I don't know how many I've done in total, but from that 425 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:02,120 point onwards, I'm going to say everything that I needed was 426 00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:07,200 provided. Never too much, never, you know, 427 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,280 a glut of stuff. But I'd, I'd started to work 428 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,400 closely with some other people and we needed a little office 429 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,640 and a man said I'll pay for that. 430 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,080 For a few months. We needed a computer that was 431 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,160 given to us and slowly we started to set up this little 432 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,880 organisation which was to print the first copies of the UK 433 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:35,200 column and the first ever copy in January 2006 was one A4 434 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:40,600 sheet, 500 copies, which we as a little team distributed around 435 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:46,320 Plymouth. So that was the initial start of 436 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,280 the UK column and what were we doing? 437 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,560 What was I doing? Very quickly I was travelling 438 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:57,280 and I was giving public talks about breakdown in the country, 439 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,840 about the political charity Common Purpose. 440 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:04,520 That was up to no good part. Part of it was to do with the 441 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,440 European Union, but also constitutional stuff. 442 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,080 And at one point it was getting very tough. 443 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:18,040 I had two very good ladies working with me, two grand mums, 444 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,880 Carol and Kate, who did super work. 445 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,400 But eventually it was clear that I could not do it all on my own. 446 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:31,240 And I'm going to say I prayed for some assistance and I was, I 447 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,080 was, is he here because he'll get embarrassed. 448 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,960 I, I, I was provided with Michael Robinson, Mike Robinson. 449 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,440 And that came out of a strange connection where some people 450 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,440 invited me to do a private talk up in London. 451 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,440 I was a bit suspicious of it actually, because I had no idea 452 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,280 really where I was going. But at at the second talk with 453 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,840 these guys, Mike had come over from France and he said he 454 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,280 wanted a help. And that's how the relationship 455 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:06,880 built up with Mike. Now, the first part of my 456 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:12,760 journey, I look at that, I was shaken and somebody said, I want 457 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,360 you to do a job. And the job I was not asked to 458 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:21,080 do was to preach. I was asked to teach about what 459 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,560 was going on in the country. I was nothing about preaching. 460 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:25,760 And I'm not going to preach to you. 461 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,320 I'm just telling you how I got going. 462 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:36,640 So the column starts to to grow. And as it grows, the 463 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,200 information, the stories that come in are sort of more and 464 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,240 more harrowing because you start to learn about people in 465 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:49,040 poverty, people really sick, people who haven't have lost 466 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,960 their children or had businesses taken away from them. 467 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,160 So the message that we were always trying to get across was 468 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,400 pretty heavy, but it was like something was there keeping you 469 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:05,520 on rails. As we unravelled this, I started 470 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:11,040 research a bit because I, I just, I, you know, somebody says 471 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,800 you've got a message from God, maybe you go and have a look at 472 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,120 the manual on God to see whether you can learn anything. 473 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,400 And I started to ask a few people who I thought had got a 474 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,480 good knowledge as spiritual matters, what they thought. 475 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,640 And I did get some good advice. I also got rejected from a lot 476 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,400 of the churches that I went to. So the good old Baptists and the 477 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,520 Methodists and the Church of England, they all gave me the 478 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,520 brush off. I actually experienced something 479 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,600 which I still regard rather wonderful is that I went to 480 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,400 speak to some elders from the Plymouth Brethren. 481 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,680 Now, if you get research and you'll instantly find that they 482 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,880 got a chequered history and this and that. 483 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:57,600 But the people I met I regarded as very wonderful people. 484 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,520 And they said to me, we think you're on a journey. 485 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,400 And boy, they were right. And they said they'd like to say 486 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,960 some prayers, which they did. And I took comfort in those 487 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,760 prayers. But the initial part of learning 488 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:18,360 was all the good stuff. And then probably about six 489 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:23,080 months into this journey, I went to visit some people in a a flat 490 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:30,680 that I've been to before and I was with my wife, but she'd gone 491 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,320 into the flat to meet the the people. 492 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,560 I was getting the bags. I walked over the threshold and 493 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,280 it was like something jumped on me. 494 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,920 I have never experienced a feeling so disgusting in my 495 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,400 life. I fell I'll, I thought I was 496 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,680 going to be sick. And then in my head I've got 497 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,560 this is a spiritual attack. And I'm thinking, how do I know 498 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,960 this? And I'm thinking, I don't know 499 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,080 how I know it, but I'm pretty sure that's what it is. 500 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,120 And my wife looked at me and I think she thought I was having a 501 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,160 heart attack. She, she said, sit down. 502 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,960 And I, I sat down and she went to make a cup of tea. 503 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,480 And I'm not going to give you all of this, but you know what? 504 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,960 A dog came into the room and I thought, the dog's going to do 505 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,920 something. The dog came in through the room 506 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,920 and padded up in front of me. And then we'll say, had a big 507 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,280 accident on the carpet. So I'm in a room feeling 508 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,080 horrible. The house is now stinking, and 509 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,240 I'm thinking, whoa, there's something really bad going on. 510 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,720 Well, I recovered from the incident that night. 511 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,680 I had some really horrific nightmares. 512 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,560 And it ended up that I drove back to Plymouth on my own 513 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:55,640 through a dark and stormy night. And when I got home, when I went 514 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,680 in through my front door, there was a brown envelope on the 515 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,640 floor. And when I opened it, it was a 516 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,120 Bible. And I know the man who'd been 517 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,960 kind enough to give it to me. It was a Bible, and it was some 518 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,160 Bible magazines. And I decided I would read these 519 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,560 magazines. And I was fascinated because 520 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,280 they were almost like a military manual of warfare. 521 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,800 They were. They were actually written by 522 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,400 the Christadelphians. And if you check the history of 523 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,000 the Christadelphians, you'll discover that they've also got 524 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,160 some chequered history. But the ones I encountered were 525 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,960 lovely people. I read those two magazines and 526 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,360 they were describing breakdown. One of them had a picture of a 527 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:45,960 man's head in a sniper rifle sight and it said The battle for 528 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,760 our minds. And the other one said the 529 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:54,640 European Union, the 4th Reich. And by the time I read the, IT 530 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,680 was about half three in the morning and I decided to have a 531 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:03,320 walk around my house and I would come across objects that I got a 532 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:07,120 bad feeling about. And so I decided I would clear 533 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,600 my House of stuff that I felt wasn't right. 534 00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:14,120 And I eventually ended up with a black sack full of junk. 535 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:17,520 What do you do with a black sack full of junk that you think's a 536 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,120 bit creepy? So I decided to put it outside. 537 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,320 I went to bed. When I woke up at about 8:30 in 538 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,440 the morning, the house had a beautiful piece to it. 539 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:34,440 And in my mind I felt that I'd been shown the light side. 540 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,760 And then it was like somebody said, I'll give you a taste of 541 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:43,520 the dark side. And that those experiences 542 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:48,880 started me on a journey of not only trying to work to warn 543 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,880 people about what was happening, how they were being attacked and 544 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,560 undermined, but it also took me on a journey where I started to 545 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:02,200 realise that this isn't simply on the men and political level, 546 00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:10,440 this is a spiritual battle. And I always felt that this was 547 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,560 a subject that it was not for me to be too upfront about. 548 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,280 And so when I was doing public talks or when we, the UK column, 549 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,480 were doing public talks, if I was on the stage, people would 550 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,320 say at the end of a talk, do you think there's more to it than 551 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,760 men and politics? And I would say absolutely, it's 552 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,280 a spiritual battle. And then you could talk with a 553 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,240 small group of people. What you could not do at that 554 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:43,160 stage is talk like I'm talking to you now to a large group of 555 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,120 people because the war would just go up instantly. 556 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,000 So I stayed away from it, but I'm going to say to you that 557 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,160 that I have felt. More and more. 558 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:57,760 Over the last couple of years that the time is right for me to 559 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,400 talk about some of my experiences because of the 560 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,760 amazing stories that you guys have told me. 561 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,760 And it is incredible how many of you have told me. 562 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,800 I'm looking not not catching any eyes. 563 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,680 So we don't betray any confidences, but basically 564 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,960 people who've told me deeply personal stories which have got 565 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:22,760 a, a spiritual aspect to them. So I'm being very upfront here 566 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,440 and it's on camera and I think I've got to the stage of life 567 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,280 where the time is right for me to say it as it is. 568 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,760 But the important thing to understand in saying that it's a 569 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:41,040 spiritual battle is that don't go down the hole of Oh my 570 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,120 goodness, it's, it's, it's all satanic. 571 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,320 It's all this, it's all that, it's all dreadful. 572 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,360 And we can't do anything with it because the reality is that 573 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:56,560 there is a battle going on, but we are not the general in charge 574 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,600 of the fight. We are foot soldiers and we're 575 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,600 going to do the best we can. And the really dark stuff, you 576 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:09,600 have no, absolutely no reason to be frightened of it if you are 577 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,240 doing the right thing. And that is that you're being 578 00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:17,480 true to yourself and you are actually behaving yourself in a 579 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,360 proper spiritual way. And I'm choosing my words very 580 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:26,000 carefully because I'd rather you went and did your research into 581 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,600 what I'm really talking about here. 582 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,120 There's some really good speakers on YouTube talking 583 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,520 about this. But if it's a spiritual battle, 584 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:40,000 we all need to be closer to God because God is where the power 585 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:46,560 is, and God can help all of us provided we open up to that 586 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,280 help. Now one of the talks that I did 587 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:55,280 in Alternative View where I had slides and a bit more of a 588 00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:01,760 formal talk, I had a little video clip of a 19 eighty 1980s 589 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,920 BBC black and white documentary called The Witches. 590 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,040 And in that very good documentary, I'm sorry, I've had 591 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,680 to say, even though it was BBC, in that very good documentary, 592 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,800 they are talking about some really horrible things going on, 593 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,040 particularly with Colts and children. 594 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,960 And at one point they speak to a lady who has got herself out of 595 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:30,000 one of these very dark Colts. And they say to her, you've been 596 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,800 amongst these really nasty people. 597 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,960 Is is there anything they're frightened of? 598 00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:39,760 And she looks at the camera and she says, oh, they are 599 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:45,760 frightened of prayer. Now, this morning in or 600 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:50,200 lunchtime in the news, I pointed out you've got a government that 601 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,680 wants to destroy prayer. This is not an accident. 602 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,680 I showed the little clip in front of an audience of 300 603 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,640 people. Later that evening there was an 604 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:06,240 open mic session. I'd been off to one side talking 605 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:08,560 to people. I came into the main bit. 606 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,240 There was a lady with a microphone and she said, and 607 00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:14,320 that was just before Brian Garry started preaching. 608 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,640 And I thought, I don't remember preaching. 609 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,440 I think I mentioned God once in my talk. 610 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,640 Well, later I saw her in the bar and I said, you said that I was 611 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,440 preaching. Why did you say that? 612 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,640 And she said, well, you and she's rubbing her stomach. 613 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:37,280 You you mentioned God and and when you were talking, I didn't 614 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,000 feel well. It was it was utterly bizarre 615 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,240 watching her. And I said, I talk about God 616 00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:47,640 once and you feel unwell. She said, I felt sick. 617 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,760 And I said, can I buy you a drink? 618 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,600 And she said, yeah, I have a glass of wine. 619 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,520 And we went over to a table and I said, tell me about yourself. 620 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,400 And what she started to tell me was she was a white witch. 621 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,280 And then she started to tell me that that was OK and what she 622 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,840 did and spells and potions and things. 623 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,400 And eventually she in her own story said, and we have to do 624 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:19,840 this to appease the elementals these, the earth, water, wind 625 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,480 and fire spirits, we have to do this. 626 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,080 Otherwise they can become aggressive. 627 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,960 So I said, so you're working with spiritual beings that can 628 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,480 become aggressive to you. And she looked at me a bit 629 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,840 strange. But then I began to realise that 630 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:40,680 because I had been talking about things in in a spiritual way, 631 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:44,200 this had impacted on her in a physical sense. 632 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,320 And I had ended up having a really good chat with her and 633 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,160 she turned out to be the essential oils lady. 634 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,880 And I ended up buying frankincense and myrrh from her. 635 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,200 And you're laughing. But I chose those because it was 636 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:04,280 a way of me. No, she wasn't selling gold, 637 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,360 unfortunately. But this was a way of me 638 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,160 building a little bit of a bond with her. 639 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,000 But I was also making a statement. 640 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,800 She knew what what I was doing. Now this is not my scene. 641 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:18,200 I was a Navy officer. I I've never been through a mega 642 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,920 devout family or anything like that. 643 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,600 So what I have told you about how the story of the UK column 644 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:30,080 opening up, this is me opening up to you and telling you what 645 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,880 happened. But what I'd like to leave on is 646 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:38,840 this important thing that we are in a huge battle, right? 647 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,480 And this is not a battle where it wants to just control you. 648 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,000 Ultimately it wants to destroy us. 649 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,440 I mean, completely. It's not in the gutter. 650 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,360 It's kicking you when you're in the gutter, right? 651 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:58,480 And to fight it, first of all, we have to realise that the 652 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,560 person in control of the battle is God. 653 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,760 So we don't have to worry about a lot of things. 654 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:07,640 But what we have to do is do our best and we have to treat people 655 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,080 properly. And there's some very key 656 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,640 advice. Love your God, love one another. 657 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,400 You can't be a member of the Tory or the Labor Party and 658 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,000 follow that because they're clearly not loving humanity, are 659 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,760 they? So I don't want to be perceived 660 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,920 as preaching, that's not my agenda. 661 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,640 But I am telling you my story and if you want my opinion, we 662 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:37,880 are in a mega spiritual battle and therefore the more you learn 663 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:43,280 about how to fight a spiritual battle and that includes praying 664 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,240 because when you pray, that's what connects you with God and 665 00:42:47,240 --> 00:42:50,560 that's where you get the strength and the support and the 666 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,480 wisdom to make the right decisions into what you do on 667 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,880 the ground. I just pointed pick the finger 668 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:01,080 at Ben again because your picture of the satanic fingers 669 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:06,080 being raised and you know the picture of the beast of the 670 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,880 beasted, sorry, the horned beast which you saw. 671 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,200 This stuff is for real. The people bringing this 672 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,600 forward, this very dark agenda are the real deal. 673 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,560 That doesn't mean say that we're out to hate them. 674 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,240 What we have to do is recognise them for what they are and we 675 00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:32,320 have to bring them down. And that is not with violence, 676 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,560 it's by exposure. And it's actually realising that 677 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,960 if that horrible dark side exists, the light side 678 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:47,480 absolutely exists and this world can and will go back to a 679 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,600 beautiful world. But for whatever reason, we are 680 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:56,960 collectively a generation which has been chosen to fight. 681 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,640 So you are all very special people. 682 00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:04,520 The fact you're awake, is it a coincidence that you woke up? 683 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,880 Different things woke you up. This is all some amazing 684 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,480 coincidence. Or else there's a little 685 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,160 statement in the good book which says in the latter days I will 686 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:19,960 call my people. So I'm going to say to you, you 687 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,480 are a lot more special than you think. 688 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:28,440 And if you stay calm and measured and loving in choosing 689 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,200 how you're going to fight what's happening, we will really start 690 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,880 to be making progress. They are destroying the 691 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,680 Christian Church because it terrifies them. 692 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,960 They are destroying prayer. They're putting people in prison 693 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,480 for praying because that frightens the pants off them. 694 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,120 And just so that there's no misunderstanding about Angle, I 695 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,360 had the opportunity in my journey to give a talk in 696 00:44:54,360 --> 00:45:00,280 Birmingham Central Mosque. It was a fantastic opportunity. 697 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,120 I gave a talk to the men because it was in the prayer hall 698 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:10,520 audience of about 150, I think, including the Special Branch 699 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:15,120 officer and also an MI Five guy, because at that stage every 700 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,960 mosque in the country had to have a security to security 701 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,000 representatives. They always wear the same shoes, 702 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:26,000 though, Charles, it's a bit of a giveaway, black Polish shoes. 703 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,360 I gave a talk about what was happening. 704 00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:37,280 I told that assembled Asian but Muslim community that they were 705 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,600 to be the new Jews and they looked at me with just 706 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,000 amazement. Why did I say that to them? 707 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:49,920 Because I somehow knew that they were going to be slaughtered. 708 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,120 I didn't know it was Gaza or wherever, but I knew something 709 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,600 was coming. So I told that audience they 710 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,200 were to be the new Jews. When I finished talking to the 711 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,920 men, I came into the foyer area of the mosque, which was full of 712 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,040 women and children, really big area. 713 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,800 And then I realised that my talk had come over a public address 714 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,840 system, so all the women had heard what I had say. 715 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,120 I got surrounded by a lot of the ladies who asked me lots of 716 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,160 questions and I spent about South. 717 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,440 My talk was two hours. By the time I'd answered, 718 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,160 questions came in the foyer talk to the women. 719 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,520 That was about an hour and a half. 720 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,480 And then when I left the foyer to go to my car, I was followed 721 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:34,080 by about 30 young Asian guys. I'm not sure what was going to 722 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,720 happen. Initially I got pinned against 723 00:46:35,720 --> 00:46:39,200 my car and then all the questions started again and I 724 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,080 spent about an hour talking to them. 725 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:46,480 And I, I'm going to just say to you that they are not our 726 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,720 enemies, right? There's another part of this 727 00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:53,040 story I won't do because on the limits of time, they are not our 728 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,840 enemy. And one of the clues is that the 729 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:01,680 dedicated Muslims will tell you that the teachings in the 730 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:07,840 mosques has been changed. What's taught in the mosques now 731 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:11,680 is stuff that their parents and their fathers, grandfathers 732 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:16,880 never heard before. And this is a new, this is a new 733 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,200 Muslim text which is coming in with the money that builds the 734 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,760 mosques. And it's coming in from UA, UAE 735 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,920 and Qatar. So if they're having to attack 736 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,720 Islam and they're really having to attack Christianity, they're 737 00:47:33,720 --> 00:47:39,960 frightened of both true faiths. And I have recently been with 738 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,040 some pretty devout Christian groups where I've had to go 739 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,280 through this business of explaining to them that the 740 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,960 moment they get on the hate side, they're on the wrong side 741 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,720 because you can't be for God and hating other people. 742 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,680 And I've made quite a lot of progress, certainly locally, 743 00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,040 because I've now been invited to do some talks with some of them, 744 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,080 my local Christians, which I take as a great compliment 745 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:09,080 because I'm largely untaught. But they powers that be want 746 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,960 everybody at each other's throats, black, whites, Asian, 747 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,600 Christians, whatever it the division is. 748 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,880 And our job is to avoid that because then we can fight the 749 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,920 battle. So I've told you about me. 750 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:29,320 I've been really honest. I don't wake up scared. 751 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,000 I'm not thinking about somebody topping me because I think, 752 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,600 well, I'm going to go when God's ready for me to go. 753 00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:41,160 And since I realised it was a spiritual battle and you can be 754 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,680 calm because the generals got it under control, life's better. 755 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,480 But do we need to fight? Yes, because you can't say it's 756 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,920 somebody else's problem, you know, you're an adult man or 757 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,800 woman. We got to fight and that's what 758 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,320 I've been doing. That's what the UK columns been 759 00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,600 doing. I think that's why I don't know 760 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,560 where a man called Charles Mallett appeared and he was Army 761 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,080 and I regard that as very significant because if you've 762 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:10,920 been RAF, I'd have been worried, Charles. 763 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,280 So there you have it. If you think you're listening to 764 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,400 a different person, you're not. It's just I've been very 765 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,360 measured about how I talk about this today. 766 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:28,560 I decided to share it all with you and I'm very happy to answer 767 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:51,680 questions, so do your best. Thank you. 768 00:49:53,760 --> 00:50:00,120 Can I ask you if you think this goes back the spiritual war to 769 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,240 ancient times? Well, of course, because it's 770 00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:06,640 spiritual and inevitably that goes back. 771 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:11,240 But if if you wanted to put a marker down, an easy marker, and 772 00:50:11,240 --> 00:50:14,880 I will use my good friend Alex Thompson, who is incredibly 773 00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:18,480 knowledgeable on these matters because of because of his 774 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,520 intense knowledge of the Bible and the biblical languages, 775 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,120 we're talking Babylon. Yeah, that's what I was getting 776 00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:32,040 getting at, really. So so practises, ceremonies, 777 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:36,280 signs, symptoms. When you actually start to look 778 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,000 at it, it may be couched in a new modern video, but what 779 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,000 you're actually looking is something around the Babylonian 780 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,720 era. To do with King David and King 781 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:51,680 Solomon practise the oh sorry, King David and King Solomon. 782 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:55,400 Well, this is this is where it goes back to and, and you know, 783 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,000 let's reach the topic. This is where it gets interested 784 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,000 if you go into the Masonic movement because this is where 785 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,360 it's that the Masonic movement is heavily focused. 786 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:06,280 The. Yeah. 787 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:13,080 Hi. Hi. 788 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,600 Sorry I didn't really. I just wanted to ask you again. 789 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,360 So you're saying you felt like you were having a spiritual 790 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,840 attack? Doesn't that isn't that kind of 791 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,800 like counter intuitive? You said about the other lady, 792 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,160 it didn't make any sense that her spirits would attack her. 793 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,280 But then you said you had a spiritual attack. 794 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,560 Are you saying you're, you know God? 795 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,880 What's the lady who said she was a white witch? 796 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:39,280 Yes, well, the lady who said she was a white witch was talking 797 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,240 about making spells. Which? 798 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,520 Didn't harm anybody. She said right, But she said 799 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:53,120 when we when we are using, when we are, well, spells, spells and 800 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,280 potions, She said when we're creating potions for this, we 801 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,920 have to say a little prayer for the elementals. 802 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,880 And when I asked why, she said because we do this because they 803 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:10,160 can be a bit fractious and we say the little prayer to keep 804 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,280 them calm. I said. 805 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,280 I said. To her, I said to her, so you 806 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,360 are, you're doing what you're doing, but you're dealing with, 807 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:23,640 we'll call them beings that can come back at you, right? 808 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,320 And you were questioning that. That was my point. 809 00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,160 You were questioning that these beings would attack her. 810 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,960 But then you said you had a spiritual attack from God. 811 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,320 So it's the same thing. I didn't. 812 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,680 That's why I misunderstood. Right when when I said I was 813 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:44,640 under a spiritual attack and I felt disgustingly I'll that is 814 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,760 can't be an attack from God. That's why that's why I'm asking 815 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:48,480 you. That's why I was. 816 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,560 Confusing attack from the dark side. 817 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,480 Ohh right that's why I was confused. 818 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:53,880 I think you were saying that right? 819 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,520 You found God and then God attacked you to make you realise 820 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,160 what it would be like if you didn't that. 821 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,880 OK, thank you. In my mind that's it was so 822 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,880 clear. It was so horrible that you 823 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,960 know, I knew whatever it was was, you know, I I should have 824 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,320 qualified it and said a dark spiritual attack. 825 00:53:11,720 --> 00:53:17,800 But if you if you feel unbelievably unwell and it was a 826 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,600 disgusting experience, some something nasty was attacking me 827 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,880 and I'm going to say it was the dark side. 828 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,840 And and in this, well, there's another lady there. 829 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:30,640 What? What was the? 830 00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:35,240 I I wanted to just say on. What that she, I, I, to be 831 00:53:35,240 --> 00:53:39,280 honest, I can't remember what originally came, came back and 832 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:44,080 some of it is blurry now as to you know, I, it wasn't as if I 833 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,320 logged it down each day. It was just that in, in my head, 834 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:54,000 it sort of answered where I was. And have I have I paid more 835 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,440 attention to the Bible? Yes. 836 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,400 And I think it's, it's a good thing to do. 837 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,920 But you got to watch the Bible because it can drag you into a 838 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,280 lot of stuff, which is to do with the world and people. 839 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,920 And but the, the, the basic message of the New Testament is 840 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,320 just so simple. How could anybody not understand 841 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,840 it? But you know, I'm looking at you 842 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,160 and trying to judge how you're taking this. 843 00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,200 But for me, it's absolutely clear that you got this battle 844 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,360 going on between what is essentially good and love and 845 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:30,480 light and another force which is, which is cruel, deceptive, 846 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,920 callous. It's it's everything negative 847 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,120 lady. Yeah, on that note, was it? 848 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,160 Did it take? Oh, sorry it took that attack 849 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,960 for you to know that that was. That it was real, I I believe. 850 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,080 Yeah, I was suggesting. You have to hit rock bottom to 851 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,560 get back up again. It was almost like you had to 852 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,440 have that attack to know that you was being attacked by the 853 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,160 dark side in. The first instance what I was 854 00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,880 shown was the light, and then it was like, now I've shown you the 855 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,040 light, I'll show you a bit of what the dark side can do. 856 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,520 Yeah, It was just to say that, yeah, it took that dark side to 857 00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:09,240 yeah. Like, I don't know, like 858 00:55:09,240 --> 00:55:11,040 epiphany kind of thing. Do you know what I mean? 859 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,800 Yeah, Yeah, I. Just want to take the mic. 860 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,280 Take the mic. Take the mic. 861 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,120 Thanks for that. What what Brian's explaining to 862 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:31,920 you there with the two extremes, to fully appreciate 1, you had 863 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:36,640 to fully appreciate 1, you have to have experience the other. 864 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:39,560 Yeah, that would make sense to me. 865 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:44,120 Yeah, Yeah. And something I better say, 866 00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:48,640 because I think it's important to say that that I experienced 867 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,520 this and then on my journey through 20 years with the UK 868 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,400 column, I've met other people who who will talk about these 869 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:56,920 sorts of things happening to them. 870 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,320 So that's very reassuring because you have a conversation 871 00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,840 with somebody else who absolutely knows what you're 872 00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,520 talking. But in me telling you this, I 873 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,320 don't make the mistake of thinking that makes Brian Garish 874 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:14,560 some special person because I am not a St right. 875 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:28,200 And no, well, well, I I can I can only describe it as as best 876 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,960 I can, but take that. But just this business of, of 877 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,680 people who experience this sort of stuff and it really makes you 878 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,200 think because you're experiencing things, which is 879 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:43,680 out of an easy material world. It's difficult to describe some 880 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,520 of these things. I could talk to you probably for 881 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:50,880 another hour about other stuff. But the trap I don't think I've 882 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,040 ever fallen into is therefore thinking, because this happened 883 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,520 to me, that makes me mega special. 884 00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:00,280 In fact, I can tell you on a couple of occasions I maybe did 885 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,960 something which was a bit foolish and, and I think I was 886 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,440 put in my place pretty quickly. Well, that's that's an 887 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:14,320 experience between me and God. But should you open your minds 888 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:18,280 up to the fact that what we're into is much bigger than just 889 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:23,360 bad corporations and people working together to control the 890 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,200 world? No, it's more than that. 891 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,560 OK. OK. 892 00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,760 Yeah, OK. Thank you, Brian. 893 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,760 Wonderful. I have so much empathy for 894 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:45,280 everything you've said what they're, I think we should never 895 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,520 be frightened of these terrible things. 896 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:54,400 Never because it's us that they're frightened of, correct? 897 00:57:54,640 --> 00:58:00,240 The divine within us. And we're not up there 898 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:07,760 somewhere, but in US and our connection with that, whatever, 899 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:12,680 whatever our belief system is, but that higher self, that 900 00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:17,440 beautiful self. And that's what, you know, we 901 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:22,120 just need to speak from our heart and do from our heart 902 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:26,080 everything we do. And that is what they hate. 903 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,960 They hate us to be happy. They hate us to be joyous. 904 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,720 This this is this is very important what this lady is 905 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:36,280 saying and UK column. We are often saying it in extra 906 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:40,680 how important it is that you stay well, you take time out to 907 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,440 relax and clear your head and you stay happy. 908 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,280 The happier you are, and I'm going to add to that, the more 909 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,560 loving you are to other people, the. 910 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,880 More. The powers hate it so you get a 911 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,640 double win. The better you are in yourself, 912 00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:00,240 the stronger you are, but the more the other side are 913 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:04,360 absolutely angry because everything they're doing is to 914 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,160 crush us. And so if you demonstrate, not 915 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,800 only are you not being crushed, but you're keeping a sense of 916 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,560 humour, you're still enjoying as much of life as you can and 917 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,280 you're battling you. You're doing a really good job. 918 00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,800 Is this a battle for our souls? And what is a soul to you? 919 00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:29,080 Do I think it's battle for our souls? 920 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,720 Yes. Because you know, when you, when 921 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:38,120 you start to think this through, you're into this key bit is, is 922 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,480 the flesh and blood all there is or is there something else? 923 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:46,960 And for me, or just say for me and everything that I've read 924 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:50,760 and paid attention to, it makes sense that actually we're all 925 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,320 connected. I'm going to say God because I 926 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,920 find it easy to work that way. We are connected to God through 927 00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,400 a a soul and that souls inside us. 928 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,600 And it's not. It's not actually part of the 929 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,760 body. But I can't prove that to you. 930 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,160 I can only say what my journeys LED led me to believe. 931 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,160 Never thought I'd be having a discussion like this with an 932 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,240 audience in 2025. Hello Ryan. 933 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:22,240 Have you ever been to Bali? I lived there personally for six 934 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:26,880 months and it's the most spiritual place I've ever been. 935 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:31,360 And I will say, before I went there, I was sort of all over 936 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,800 the place a bit and being there for six months, it gave me at 937 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,960 least 6-7 years of the after effects of it. 938 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:43,440 The most lovely people, predominantly Hindu, but even 939 01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:49,320 the other faiths, all, it's just the most spiritual place to be. 940 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:54,000 And the people, the majority of people, the Balians don't have 941 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,440 anything. They're very basics, you know, 942 01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:02,400 but they're so happy, smiley. And, you know, if that's heaven 943 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,600 on earth. And I would say to anybody, if 944 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,560 you get a chance, go to Bali. OK, thank. 945 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,000 Thank you for that. I I think this is a really 946 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,880 important point because we haven't got time to go into sort 947 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,560 of the debate on other religions that one of the books I read 948 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:21,200 very early on was called one the 11 World Religion by a man 949 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:26,880 called Lee Penn PE double N. And in that book, very thick 950 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:31,840 book with a lot of footnotes, he's warning that basically all 951 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,240 of the religions in the world are being attacked in order to 952 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:39,840 fuse them. And the fusing of them is the 953 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:45,320 corruption of all of them to create basically the the satanic 954 01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:50,360 one world system. So I, I find it quite easy to 955 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:56,000 appreciate that actually any faith system that is essentially 956 01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:00,280 based on loving people and certainly not harming anybody is 957 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:05,360 being now rounded up to be pushed into this very brutal one 958 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:09,440 world religion system. It is, it is a fat book. 959 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,360 It's quite expensive, but it's well worth reading because it's 960 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,800 research is is. I think it's phenomenal. 961 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:24,360 Hi, yes, you're talking about it's not corporations. 962 01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,320 Don't think about it's just corporations. 963 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,920 It's, it's a spiritual war, a spiritual battle. 964 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,320 I mean, I've been listening to a few researchers that have been 965 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,760 like, well, podcasts like Wake the Dead and William Ramsay who 966 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:42,160 look into true crime and looking at the order of the 9 angles and 967 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,200 stuff. And these secret societies that 968 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,560 we might not be on Skull and Bones that we're not Privy to 969 01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:50,960 because we're not elite. We're not part of the elite 970 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:56,760 system that are basically Satanists. 971 01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,960 And, and what I'm saying is, you know, you can't have, if you're 972 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:05,040 not a believer in God as we've been told as children or 973 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:09,160 something in these sort of like organised religion, but 974 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,400 believing the creator. There's got to be light and 975 01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,480 dark, you know, and there's definitely a lot of darkness 976 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,720 going on right now. So what I'm saying is, you know, 977 01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:25,280 these, these organisations are satanic and it's coming through, 978 01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,240 it's coming through them. And look at how psychopathic 979 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,320 they are. No empathy for no one. 980 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,280 This is true, but something I'd say to you straight off is that 981 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,720 if you've done enough research to be confident these nasty 982 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,480 organisations are there, stop doing research on them. 983 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:44,240 Because the more you research the dark side, the more it pulls 984 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:49,200 you into the abyss, right? So when, when you've done enough 985 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,080 to understand it's real, you don't need to do anymore. 986 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,880 You don't need to understand how it works because it's so 987 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,760 complex. The tentacles are so complex. 988 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,440 You, you will actually destroy yourself continuing to go into 989 01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,200 that route. And there's a lot of people who 990 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,160 fall for this. And then they do this research 991 01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,120 late at night and then they have problems. 992 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:15,280 So once once you are confident you can see what's there that's 993 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,600 dark. My advice is leave it alone 994 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,800 because you you don't need to research it to win. 995 01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:31,280 Yes, agree. Hello Brian and more. 996 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:32,560 I'll come to you. I've forgotten you. 997 01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,080 This will be the last. This lady will be the last one. 998 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,960 Pen Ultimate. Pen ultimate I wanted to ask you 999 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,480 about what you were saying before is if you think there 1000 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:44,440 might be the soul not being actually part of our body, but 1001 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,240 it exists somewhere else and we Tran and and it's like a 1002 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,440 transmission and there's spiritually dark forces which 1003 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:54,080 clearly, clearly, seemingly manifest and it's undeniable 1004 01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,880 because you feel feel them often times. 1005 01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:02,040 Is that like an attempt to an attempt to interfere with the 1006 01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:06,080 transmission or the link between the soul of us and and and the 1007 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,160 God thing? In my opinion, yes. 1008 01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,880 And and This is why the praying is so clear. 1009 01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,200 You sit or you stand and you're praying. 1010 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:16,920 Who? Who are you actually hurting? 1011 01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:19,280 And yet the government wants to put you in Britain. 1012 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:23,360 It's because if you, if you adhere to the rules of the dark 1013 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,880 side, the prayer has got a power because you are communicating 1014 01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,680 with God and they want to stop it. 1015 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:34,360 I just wanted to say I, I liked, I, I really like what you said 1016 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,600 and I think it's very important. I, I don't really need to 1017 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,520 reiterate something you've already said, but I've 1018 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:43,680 experienced myself the, the researching of really dark stuff 1019 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:48,760 sometimes can actually defeat the absolutely. 1020 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,960 It it can be, it can be unhealthy and and it can also 1021 01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,200 sometimes be disinformative as well. 1022 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,880 Absolutely, because it will be everything negative and dark. 1023 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,040 Last question. I'm wondering what you view 1024 01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:08,440 might be like in order to become more of a spiritual. 1025 01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:13,280 Beyond that, you don't need an organised religion because that 1026 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,000 also tears and cause division as well. 1027 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:22,760 So by learning to be inside of ourselves and to be ourselves 1028 01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,160 because we are all God, we're all God. 1029 01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:30,320 I agree. I agree with that largely, but 1030 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:34,920 I'm going to say in my mind, there's still scriptural stuff 1031 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:41,080 that you can learn from people over the, you know, centuries 1032 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,480 can be very wise people and have written very wise things. 1033 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:48,480 And I, I think that there is, there is good education in good 1034 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,640 scripture, but I'm not going to, I don't want to get into that 1035 01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,560 here because it, it's just, it's just not right. 1036 01:06:54,560 --> 01:07:04,080 I, I have given you a really Frank recount of my story as to 1037 01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,280 how I got here and how I, how I think. 1038 01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,120 And so I, I'd like to just leave you guys with the fact that 1039 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:14,280 we're in this immense battle, but the God's in control. 1040 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,800 You haven't got to worry. If you do X&Y, the whole thing's 1041 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,960 going to fall apart. You just do as much as you can, 1042 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,920 but you've got to do the other things with it because if you're 1043 01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:29,640 not trying to do the right things on a spiritual level in 1044 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,960 the right sense, you're, you're losing anyway. 1045 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,880 You're helping the other side. But be happy. 1046 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,040 That's a really good starting place. 1047 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:39,160 Be happy. Wasn't that a tune? 1048 01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:42,760 OK. Thanks very much.