Good afternoon. It's Monday the 27th of October
2025, just after 1:00. Welcome to UK column News.
I'm your host Mike Robinson and my Co Co host in the studio
today is Ben Rubin. Welcome to the program, Ben.
Thanks, Mike. And joining us by video link are
Sandy Adams and Diane Rasmussen. Now later in the program,
Diane's going to be covering attempts to change behaviors in
one of UK console and she'll be talking quite a bit about Magna
Carta later on as well. Sandy is Sandy is going to be
reporting on the World Heritage event in Glastonbury and protest
over data centres in Merseyside. Ben's going to be covering more
protests, this time with UKIP, but we're going to begin with AI
and it's continuing roll out into government.
Ben. Indeed we are.
Yes. Hello everybody.
Artificial intelligence. What could possibly go wrong?
We're going to migrate all of government to a new
technological paradigm. It's completely experimental.
All core functions of major government departments are now
going to be run on these new algorithmic systems built by
multinational corporations owned by unaccountable billionaires
with 0 loyalty to the British people.
Who better to lead the charge than David Lammy?
Let's have a listen. We're at a new technological
frontier, one that will transform how government
delivers for you. In our justice system, we're
already seeing what's possible. AI is helping our probation
officers spend less time on paperwork and more time working
directly with offenders to cut crime and protect communities.
It saves me hours of typing case notes and reports, allowing me
to focus on what really matters, which are supporting my team and
managing risks. I'm announcing that we're
expanding this technology to 1000 more probation officers
across the country. This is AI enabling us to be
more human, not less. Handling routine tasks so people
can focus on what humans. Can do AI is one of the most
powerful tools governments have to modernize public services to
make them faster, easier, and more reliable.
That starts with giving public servants the best AI tools built
with strong privacy and safety guard rails to help government
work better for everyone. The Ministry of Justice is
expected to save up to 240,000 days of valuable time every
year, allowing staff to spend more time monitoring offenders
and keeping our streets safe. There's a global race to lead on
AI. We're determined to win it for
jobs, for growth, A justice system that truly works for
everyone. A global race for AI.
Who decides that we're in a race?
How does that happen? They decided for themselves.
They're running this race. Nobody else particularly wants
to be involved in it. It is big.
Seems like a slippery slope to me, Ben.
It certainly does, yeah. So, but they're at it.
They're implementing this stuff. They're running experiments at
the moment, right? But this is absolutely coming.
So what's Lammy just described there?
They've put this into the probation service.
They're using it for case notes. So essentially conversations
between probation officers and people who are going out onto
probation are being recorded by this system, and then that's
being annotated and that's been presented as something that is
positive for society. Whereas actually what we're
ending up with is really quite important.
Interactions with crucial interactions with people who are
going back into society are actually being handled by an
algorithmic system. And there's no control here, as
far as I can tell about what's being put into the system, how
it's then being interpreted, and also what's going on with that
information in the background, right.
And this is just a microcosm. They talked about expanding this
out to 1000 more case officers across the probation system.
Apparently that's going to save 240,000 days a year.
And the whole thing's presented almost as an advert for for open
AI and by extension from Microsoft.
I mean, that came from Lammy's personal Twitter page X page,
and he's up there speaking as a joint representative of this
initiative with the Chief commercial officer of Open AI.
It's almost like the British government kind of in joint
enterprise here with this multinational corporation.
And of course, you know, it's not like there's anything
particularly bad going on at the Ministry of Justice at the
moment. I mean, let's not forget last
week that Hadoosh Kabatu, the illegal immigrant who triggered
the Epping protests, who had sexually assaulted a 14 year old
girl in Essex just eight days after he crossed the Channel,
was sent down for 12 months and then accidentally released from
prison. At which point a manhunt then
ensues around central London. And he's seen walking around
McDonald's in, in, in Dalston, not far from where I used to
live, right. So, you know, the people that
have done this are the people that are implementing these new
technological systems. And obviously, by the way, Lammy
was quick to jump all over that after the gentleman was
apprehended again, basically saying that he's going to be
deported this week, assuming that they can still locate him
when it comes around. So that needing to happen.
So, but this isn't just the Justice Department.
This is the the whole of the whole of government.
So they've been running this trial since the end of last
year. You can see here a report
talking about the Microsoft 365 Copilot experiment which has
been running across 20,000 civil servants in DWPHMRC, the Home
Office, Ministry of Justice as we just talked about, plus a
bunch of other government departments, Defra, ONS,
Companies House. And apparently this is all about
task completion, efficiency, user satisfaction, action and
nothing whatsoever to do with centralisation of power and
extraction of profit, which is ultimately the, you know, the,
the end point of all of this. Importantly, particularly in the
context of what we just heard about in terms of the probation
service, one of the things that came out of this report is that
in sensitive areas like grievance handling or
performance evaluations, there is a lot of concern about the
accuracy of the outputs and any area, any errors could lead to
reputational risk. So I think that probably plays
directly into this thing with the probation service, right?
If you were having conversations with a prisoner about going back
into society and that conversation is being
inaccurately recorded and analysed by the system, then
that could deliver severe reputational risk and not as
reputational risk, public safety risks.
And that's already been identified in the trial, but
apparently no ones particularly interested in that and they're
continuing to roll this whole thing out.
In fact, this has now become the single issue for the civil
service. We can see here the One Big
Thing 2025 program which is now live.
So the one big Thing, which runs from October until February next
year, is about civil servants learning to use AI confidently
and responsibly and applying it to the work that they do, which
is all about apparently helping us be more efficient and
effective as we deliver the citizens, even though that
doesn't appear to be the outcome of this.
Who's pushing this into the system?
So be our behavioural insights team, absolutely front and
centre in this. They released a kind of a
blockbuster report actually. I mean, the amount of work that
has gone into this, the AI and human behaviour report where
they look at augmentation, adaptation, alignment and, and
adaptation inside companies and government departments.
We'll put a link to this like really quite in in some ways a
phenomenal piece of work until you really begin to understand
what it is they're trying to achieve with it.
They've developed this process that they're taking
organisations through, which is about moving from no adoption on
the left hand side there in the centre to deep adoption on the
right hand side and how to and helping people to build
motivation, trust and capability to migrate along this journey.
Essentially overcoming threats to things like competence,
relevance and identity, right? So this is about manipulation
and coercion into engagement with this new technology and
overcoming questions like why am I making myself redundant, which
is probably what a lot of people are asking is this stuff is
being rolled out now. That report has come from this
fella Michael Holdsworth, PhD, who's the chief behavioural
scientist at the Behavioural Insights team, still basically
not directly owned by the British government, but
essentially operating as a kind of non governmental organization
as part of Nestor's. We talk about them pretty much
every week. Certainly I do.
And this, this guy actually was one of the original co-authors
of the Mindspace document, right?
So the original document that came out in 2010, which was the
precursor to the Behavioural Insights team and Nudge unit,
developed in the Cabinet Office underneath David Cameron,
obviously working closely with David Halpern, who's still the
President, I believe, emeritus of the Behavioural Insights team
and this guy's new book, entertainingly, it's called The
Hypocrisy Trap, which apparently means he's telling us that we
need to rethink hypocrisy and that will improve our
relationships. What?
Just by being more hypocritical. Well, you know, you just can't
be, you can't be too judge mental on this stuff.
You know, all right, these are the people pushing this stuff
out into the system. And it's it's not just labour
insights team in UK government. This is the whole, what do they
call it? Civil society, charitable
foundation, tech entrepreneur, tech visionary paradigm is
pushing this thing forward. Let's have a look at Omejar
network. They're talking about
envisioning a future where our shared humanity steers our
digital future. And they introduced this term
recently, which is about hard wiring humanity to the grid.
Yeah, think about that. They want to hardwire us to the
digital control grid, starting in government but then
absolutely rapidly moving across the rest of society as well.
And this stuff is dangerous. I will be completely upfront
with you. And we know it already, not
least because of its provenance and where it's come from.
But, you know, this report issued by MIT earlier on this
year, she talks about this idea of cognitive debt and the fact
that in their controlled trial, people who were using AI
performed worse than their counterparts in all levels.
So this is destroying people's minds, right?
And it's been pushed into the education system.
The whole thing's also built on fraud as well, pretty much,
right? So they're certainly playing
fast and loose with intellectual property legislation.
Open AI submitted some evidence to the Lord's Communications and
Digital Committee earlier on this year.
I think it was actually, you know, start of last year, start
of 24. And they were asked if they
could explain their position on the use of copyrighted material.
And they said, well, it would be impossible to train today's
leading iron models without using copyrighted materials,
which they haven't paid for, right?
So essentially they've ignored the law.
Let's just say that and actually this entire thing, this entire
industrial paradigm is coming extraordinarily confusing
financially, right? So they've introduced this term
of a, what they're calling a circular economy, which is this
phenomenon where you have a handful of tiny, a tiny handful
of, of dominant companies who are basically engineering a new
technological and financial system that everything in our
society is going to run on. And they're blurring the lines
between a customer, a supplier and a partner.
So we can see that NVIDIA announced back in September that
it was going to invest $100 billion in Open AI and NVIDIA
make the microchips that this stuff runs on.
Open AI is the organization that builds the, the the AI models
and that David Lammy is introducing into the government,
amongst others. NVIDIA announced an investment
of 100 billion into Open AI and in exchange, Open AI committed
to building 10 gigawatts of data centre capacity.
So basically, we'll give you some money, but then you give it
straight back to us. And then we present this as
turnover and economic activity. But it's not, it's kind of
closed loop of people just shuffling money around between
themselves really doesn't make any sense at all.
And that's just one example out of this diagram.
And this is, this came from Bloomberg.
There's a lot of people talking about this at the moment.
My view is the circular is really just a way of saying this
is basically an elaborate scam. And this completely takes us
immediately straight back into this territory because Microsoft
are at the centre of this, are a strategic partner of the World
Economic Forum. The organisations on that chart
that we can see here that aren't World Economic Forum partners
are largely owned by organisations like BlackRock,
who owns 8% of NVIDIA. And actually, I suppose none of
this should really be a surprise because our justice system as of
2019, based on this program, AI Advisory Group established by
Lord Burnett of Malden, who was the Lord Chief Justice at the
time, was set up alongside of a bunch of other senior judges,
but also a lady called Cade Burth Butterfield, who is the
head of AI and machine learning at the World Economic Forum.
So this this has been engineered for at least six years now and
that this is what our government is being migrated onto.
This is going to be a big topic during UK called News Extra, I
have no doubt. Diane, let's let's welcome you
onto the program. And well, one council in the UK
has been having interesting conversations, including about
behaviour. So let's let's hear what you
think about that or what's been going on.
Yeah, thanks Mike and hello Ben and Sandy and, and to everyone
watching today, it's great to be here.
I attended a Durham County Council meeting at last week on
the 22nd of October because it's the council where I live now
currently. And there have been some
interesting things going on in this council, largely because
there's very large majority of Reform Party local councillors
who really do seem to be doing the best they can for their
local residents. And so I wanted to cover a
little bit about what happened at some of the the two main
points of the meeting. And 1 is about about freedom of
expression, the council. And the other one is about
Maya's Law, which is related to child safeguarding, which I will
speak about a bit later. I wanted to credit to me the
people Northeast, the Rumble channel that I work with appear
locally. They have recorded a large
portion of the the council, which is now available on the
Rumble channel. And this will be available if
you want to watch the full video in the show notes as well as the
entire council meeting, which is available on YouTube directly
from the council. But what I would like to talk
about first is the amendment to the Code of Conduct based on
freedom of expression. And the amendment has to do with
relating to Human Rights Act in 1898, Article 10.
And saying that basically that any member of the council has
the right to say what they want to say based in speeches or in
writing and on social media. And that this is a proposal to
amend the member Code of Conduct to include specific reference to
members rights to freedom of expression.
So first, let's hear how they announced this item in the
agenda. The report sets out the legal
basis for freedom of expression under Article 10 of the European
Convention of Human Rights in the Human Rights Act 1998, and
in particular the right for individuals to express their
views through public protest and demonstrations, published
articles, books, leaflets, television or radio
broadcasting, works of art, the Internet and social media.
So that's the item and now I'd like to play a clip from
Councillor Darren Grimes, who is the deputy leader of Durham
County Council, who has reformed.
We need to actually get back to a sensible democratic debate
where each of us recognise that we are ultimately accountable to
our voters at the ballot box. If our voters find what any of
us in this Chamber have said on social media, in this chamber,
wherever else to be objectionable in any way, shape
or form, they are absolutely free to do.
What is their right, their democratic rights that we wear
this poppy to actually stand up and remember those who fought
for us to actually be able to exercise that right.
And that right says that if you invite someone at the ballot box
who stands for election, you are able to put them up the behind
and tell them to get out, right? It's as simple as that.
I'm accountable to the people of County Durham through that
ballot box and long may that continue to be the case.
But I'm afraid what we've seen actually since May is the
weaponisation of the standards process, a weaponisation to
actually alter people down who you disagree with, with
vexatious complaint that says I didn't like something you said.
You know what I say to that? That's called life.
You don't always agree with everything anyone says.
I think you'll find that both of us on this side of the chamber
disagreed vehemently when the Liberal Democrats stood up and
said to a vote in which 17.4 million people took place.
Bollocks to Brexit, That was offensive to me.
I didn't complain about any of the Liberal Democrats.
I stood against them in an election and we did quite well
actually. I wonder why that is.
Could it be because there was obviously to contend evidence
for the electorate? I would because it has to guess
My friends are actually imposing you and taking part in that
process. So in response to that, we have
a reply from Councillor Amanda Hopgood, who is the leader of
the Liberal Democrats here in County Durham.
And let's hear what she had to say about what Darren said.
Councillor Hopgood. Yeah.
Thank you, Chair. I think it's already been said.
No one in here, I'm sure, will disagree with the principle of
free speech. In reality, Chair, though, this
amendment does nothing more than put into writing what is already
considered when each complaint comes in.
But what it is doing is publicly given.
In their view some members the right to be aggressive and
offensive all in the name of politics.
It won't reduce the number of complaints, it's already been
confirmed by the monitoring officer.
The complaints will still have to be looked into whether or not
this passes or not. The only thing that will
actually change the number of complaints and therefore up till
now 11,000 lbs of wasted taxpayers money is the people
being complained about changing their behaviour.
So her overall point being that just because we can't say
something in the chamber doesn't mean that we should do so.
So then there was a bit of chaos that broke out after that.
Let's see this final clip. The dehumanization that comes
from opposition members who have the goal, the temerity to
suggest that their record is completely unbleashed in that
regards. How dare you?
Yeah.
And I find it absolutely extraordinary that Councillor
Shuttleworth, who stands up and frankly is aggressive in his
tone in nature, can stand there and say that actually we on this
side of the chamber have questions to answer.
I would ask him to take a good hard look in the mirror.
Ultimately, the Liberal Democrats, I believe, have shown
their authoritarians here. The Liberal part of their name?
Long since forgotten. The Democrat part of their name,
Well, no. No further than that Brexit
vote, that's forgotten too. I think ultimately the
authoritarian street is to call for censorship.
I'll note that the leader of the Opposition stood up there and
said I need to change my behaviour.
Do you know what that means, my friends?
It means silence. It means censorship.
What is liberal about that? The key tense of liberalism,
which may I please raise the point of political.
Moment. May I raise a point of personal
reflect clarification. I did not say that whatsoever.
I did not infer that he had to stop putting posts on at all or
silence them. Those were the word.
Science never came out of my mouth when I spoke.
Thanks for the clarification, Council.
Grimes, Tony. Download, please.
OK. So the change of behaviour, what
could that mean in the context of speech, if not silence?
I find that absolutely extraordinary goal.
The same thing. I did not say silence.
He can say that twist it as many times as he wants, but I did not
say he had to be silenced. I said it was a change of
behaviour. So, Mike, I don't know if you
have anything to say about this change in behaviour, but just to
say that this amendment passed of 63 to 28 votes.
OK, very good. No, I've got nothing, nothing
particularly to add to that. But what?
What is? What is Maya's law then?
Maya's law is something that is in sort of supporting this
little girl who was shaken to death in 2022 by her mother's
boyfriend. The mother is now in prison in
the BBC reported last week, unfortunately that on the 15th
of October that Parliament turned down this law taking
place which is basically meant to help identify, notify those
who might be putting children at at risk.
It is also supported locally because the girl was in County
Durham by Amanda Hopkud, who we just heard from the the Liberal
Democrats, as well as Liz Twist who is the Labour MP up here in
the area. Unfortunately, however, what we
found out when we heard from the children's Minister, the Labour
MP Josh McAllister, he said that he agrees that we need to change
the law and that is what we are undertaking.
However, I do not believe that now would be the time to to
introduce a child risk disclosure scheme specifically,
but many of the proposals are reflected in what the government
is taking forward. So basically he's saying it's
not the time for child safeguarding against potentially
dangerous people being around children.
I did an interview with Councillor Kenny Hope, who is
another Reform councillor here in County Durham on Maya's Law
who's been leading the effort to promote this in County Durham
and around the country. So here's a short clip from
that, from that interview that I had with Kenny after the meeting
on Tuesday. All right.
Hello, this is Diane Rasmussen with UK column.
I just watched a very long County Council meeting with
Councillor Kenny Hope present. Of course, I wanted to talk to
you in particular about Maya's law because I know that you've
been doing a lot of work to get this law through.
And if you could maybe tell the audience a little bit about what
the law is for and what what you want to do with it.
Yeah. So Maya's Law is strengthening
safeguarding if if children baby Mia was murdered by her mum's
boyfriend several years ago and it was a bit of a harrowing,
harrowing event, and if these safeguarding measures were in
place then that could have prevented Mia's death.
Hence the reason why we at full council today are very, very
strong in wanting to move forward, change our policies to
help now in County Durham, our safeguarding policies within
within the county to further look after our children.
So just to say quickly, there is a petition that is available on
the UK government website. It has just under 8000
signatures. Of course we need even 10,000 to
even get it looked at in Parliament.
So this will be about disclosure and safeguarding for these at
risk children. And the link to sign the
petition will be in the show notes.
So everyone please sign to help us get this passed.
Thank you. OK, Dan, thank you very much for
that. Sandy, let me welcome you to the
program. And well, we're heading off to
Glastonbury again, where all the best Agenda 21 Agenda 2030
activity seems to happen and we're we're looking at World
Heritage. Indeed, I mean it's been fun and
games actually. This last Saturday on the 25th,
Glastonbury Town Council held a consultation event regarding the
ongoing scoping exercise for WHS status.
That's the people haven't asked for, which has currently cost
over 30,000 lbs when they can't even maintain the public toilets
here. So it's, you know, the people
aren't too happy about it. It was very poorly advertised.
I've got a a slide here to show you the the makeshift shift
board went up 45 minutes before the and you can see they really
spent a lot of money on that one.
And there was another huge event happening at the same time in
the town. And this wasn't a mistake
because it happened the same time last year.
They were, you know, the, the event was, was, was happening
when there was a big event in the town.
So they are actively discouraging people to attend.
So we did our own internal advertising for it.
And they were very shocked that so many people turned up because
they did, they weren't expecting it and they didn't want it.
So yeah, we had the next slide is, is the consultants we had,
we had two people speak on behalf of the contractors about
local WHS bids that were successful to WHS, and that was
the city of Bath and Asbury and Stonehenge.
And there was a level of manipulation to try and get us
to agree that it was a good idea because they just really
presented the very what they thought were the positive
aspects. Now, it wasn't long before the
17 goals crept into the PowerPoint.
And he was challenged by a resident about the links to the
UN and the WEF, quite rightly. So.
Let's hear how he tried to justify this.
He was actually a really nice guy, but was a bit misinformed.
Oh yeah, we had that. There's this, we'll go straight
to, yeah, there's a, a clip of the, there's a slide of the, the
woman that she, this lady was, was presenting on on behalf of
WHS for the Avebury and Stonehenge, which has a lot of,
a lot of adverse reactions to what's happened at Avebury and
Stonehenge with, with what's happened to the sacred sites
there. So let's hear what this, this
consultant has, has to say about what he believes.
He's got the 17 goals there up on the on the screen and he
doesn't really get it. You listen to what he says.
He's a lovely man but sadly doesn't get it.
No, what the what relationship is between the World Economic
Forum and UNESCO is I can speak to these.
So we adopt the indicators and we respond to the indicators in
the Sustainable Development Goals.
So I'm going to say 2 for example, 1 is about eradication
of poverty. Now how that influences how we
campaign for new housing and developments is to ensure that
or to we campaign that developers ought to be creating
more space for allotments and prophecy gardens so people have
the ability to grow their own food, so that there is greater
control over use of chemicals, over the availability of food,
the affordability of food. That's a fundamental way for us
to be able to influence in a very direct way how people can
help to eradicate poverty, which is why, you know, it's not,
we're not the only reason. I'm not proclaiming all of that,
but Bath has got double the number of allotments per person
who lives in Bath than the average of the UK.
We're not going down to World Heritage, but it gives us a
focus to be able to specifically look at those indicators and how
those can be changed through our work.
However, the. Recognition of polity through
the world is the fact that none is alone.
Absolutely. I'm not here to.
I'm honestly, I'm not here to disagree with you.
My, my journey. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
So all I can say is I haven't got anybody coming in to Bath
telling me how to run my business, how to run the charity
that I work, what our campaigning priorities are.
I don't have a group of people influencing what we should be
saying and how we work in in engaging people.
That's self determination. That's what we do as an
independent charity and we are facilitators to be independent
because, like it or loathe it, that tourism is good enough in
Bath to make our charity financially independent.
So we are free of a voice about how we express ourselves now.
So he thinks he's autonomous or the World Heritage Site or
whatever is autonomous, but they are clearly not.
So after the presentation we were encouraged to discuss any
issues with three different groups on round tables, the
consultants, the council and the working party and the public
group who'd been cherry picked by the council.
It's a form of gatekeeping. And this, this next slide is a
warrior woman who stood up on a chair and refused the Delphi
technique that they, they'd encourage us to, to participate
in, which is where they put you on separate tables.
And, and we, we were, we were asking for a panel discussion
actually. Now this lady in pink in the
next slide was she's the, the deputy town clerk became very,
very irate, I have to say, saying it was their event and we
must do as we're told. We don't tell people in
Glastonbury to do as they're told.
So we won the battle for a panel Q&A and we had a heated
discussion about the lack of transparency regarding unminuted
secret meetings with lack of community engagement and a a
call for an open debate. Now, I, I did look at some of
these slides. If we have the next slide up
within the presentation, I realized there was some very
interesting slides and, and following it up, one of them was
the sustainable Tourism toolkit. And so I looked at this and I
put everything in the show notes.
It's really interesting to have a look at this because there is
a, a rather darker agenda at at at play here.
So I did some research and it, it, this particular toolkit
explains the collaboration of the UN and the WF in the
transformation of tourism under the 17 sustainable goals with
the United Nations World Tourist Organization, who have this sort
of logo with tourism at the heart of the 17 goals.
Now the next, the next slide is, is how in, in this document,
which is the, the, the UN tourism document, how they are
using goal 12:14 and 8:00 to promote this.
And they, they, they've put addendums to these three goals.
So for instance, target 8, they've put it Target 8.9 devise
and implement policies to promote sustainable tourism that
creates jobs and promotes local culture and products.
And then also SGG 12 point B develop and implement tools to
monitor sustainable development impacts for sustainable tourism.
So if we then go on to the next slide, now I looked at this,
this is EU, the the UN tourism's digital transformation under the
seventeen goals. And it, you know, once
inscribed, basically the World Heritage status becomes a
subject to international oversight by ENESCO and it's
partner bodies. So local control is kind of
eroded and they take control really.
Sites are activated economically through the global tourism
industry involving public private partnerships.
Now we've spoken about all this, this big corporations coming in
and and taking over. And UNESCO pushes visitor
management systems and digital destination platforms part,
which is part of the broader smart city, smart region model
under Gender 2030. It's been a very long term plan
because Tony Blair's government and the obviously the Lisbon
Treaty explicitly promoted a post industrial model.
Now this is something I've been looking at for years,
positioning the UK as a service and cultural hub within a
globalised economy. And manufacturing that was
destroyed in the 1980s by all those governments would be
outsourced to low cost regions, while Britain would profit from
finance, education and tourism, all tightly integrated with
supranational governance. And this is this is where this
is all coming together in my head.
So heritage and tourism become instruments of technocratic
management and surveillance, not necessarily preservation, and
certainly not spirit spiritual pilgrimage.
And it's been witnessed at Machu Picchu and Uluru, both WHS sites
and other world sacred sites where indigenous local people
have been overlooked. So I also, I was looking at this
and thinking, well, the whole idea of the long term idea of
this plan of the SDGS is to actually reduce plane and car
travel. So where does this fit in with
tourism? And I suddenly, you know, got a
bit of an aha moment and here we go.
The next slide is virtual reality market size.
And these are the biggest virtual reality sectors, you
know, that are coming through. And the next 1 is really how
that can be monetised. And the, the, the fact that the,
the, the market for virtual reality tourism is massive.
And this is what we're looking at.
So the next slide is, yeah, digital and virtual travel.
Now this comes from the UN World Tourist Organization.
It says the use of technologies including the Internet of
Things, location based services, art, virtual intelligence,
augmented, augmented and virtual reality are you know, they're,
they're bringing all of this in and it's a, it's a way of, of
keeping the carbon down. If you can sit at home and and
go somewhere in your virtual reality headset instead of
actually getting on a plane, then it's a win for them.
So this is this is sadly, this is what we're looking at.
Sandy, thank you. Sandy, thank you very much for
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Now tonight Jerome is talking to Quinton Junk.
The title of this is he was told he would die within four years
and in fact he went on to live for 20 so far and is still going
strong. That's on Germ Warfare tonight,
so have a look at this at 7:00 if you can.
And Dan, very, very briefly, please.
The so-called Banned Books and Libraries article is now up.
Yes, thanks Beck. I just posted this this morning.
This is a version of the article that I posted in the Scottish
Union for Education sub stack a couple of weeks ago.
There's some very important information here again about the
child safeguarding and what our children are being faced with in
libraries today. OK, so that is up on the UK
column website front page now reject digital ID.
Diane, 1st of November, you're speaking at this one?
Yes I am. This is a please join us on the
1st of November at the Monument in Newcastle.
I will be there speaking along with Fiona, Rose Diamond and and
someone from the Freedom Alliance.
So please join us, it'll be a great day.
And then why Scottish education matters?
This is the conference for the Scottish Union Free Education
which I will be attending as well on the 15th of November.
Tickets are around 25 lbs in Glasgow.
OK. Thank you, Diane.
Now to get back on track here a little bit, we have a couple of
video clips from the from the conference that we want to show,
but we'll do that in in extra from the conference that we held
a week or so ago. But let's let's move on.
Then the question is, is history repeating itself?
Banned. It doesn't repeat, but it
rhymes. Isn't that what they say?
That's what they say. They do, yeah.
Someone in the chat box a minute ago said is the civil war
started yet? And they're certainly trying for
it. So this weekend up in London,
there were a bunch of St. protests.
The Guardian presenting this is a rerun of the famous Battle of
Cable Street from I think it was 1936 where anti fascists
protested against Moseley's black shirts and they're saying
that history is repeating. Essentially what this is about
is a UKIP protest. Interestingly, not Tommy
Robinson, it's UKIP. You can see there.
Haven't seen that in a while actually, that purple flag,
right? Yeah.
And but they're very much in the kind of, as you would expect, in
the National, in the nationalist spirit, should I say, but not
welcoming White Chapel scenes of provocation.
So the March was diverted up to the West End and they walked
down, I think these actually looks like New Oxford Street.
And they walked down to Speakers Corner, but you can see there
someone's holding a crucifix. You've got lots of Union Jacks,
lots of, I don't know. Well, they almost look like
Templar flags, don't they? And there's certainly a lot of
Christian iconography of play here led by this chap Nick
Tenchoni, who's been the leader of UKIP since February.
So another splinter organization to dish unite the right wing of
British politics, pretty much exactly the same as what's going
on the left wing of British politics at the moment as well
with the Green Party and what Corbyn and Zara Sultana are up
to. And then the response over back
over in Whitechapel was the the local kind of Bangladeshi and
Pakistani Muslim crowd community I saw is mainly the men were out
on the street all blacked up and faces covered and protecting
their turf essentially, right. And this is very much in the
vein of this kind of slippery slope towards sectarianism that
we appear to be being dragged down at the moment.
And I don't think this is heading in a particularly
positive direction at all. But one of the things that
jumped out at me in particular was this interaction now between
one of the stand up to racism, anti fascist protesters and some
of these young men, these young Muslim men out on the streets of
Whitechapel. Let's have a little look.
There's no. Need for that?
We're on the side side bro. Yes we are bro.
Do you hear that? We're on the same side bro?
No, we're not. Which puts quite an interesting
spin on that, doesn't it? Because stand up to racism.
We're going up all around the country on a weekly basis.
They're in Plymouth over the weekend.
They're all around the UK standing up for immigrant
community, standing up for refugees, facing down the anti
fascist building. This, you know, United Colours
of Benetton Group of, of, of, of, of all different races and
creeds. But actually it turns out that
that is a very shaky alliance. And I think that what these, for
me, that's a really stand out moment, I think.
And these deserve to be seen by a lot of people, particularly on
the political left, right, because actually what you think
is happening is not actually what was happening.
And it's entirely possible we're going to start to see some of
these supposed alliances disintegrate, and then who knows
what will happen. The the UKIP demonstrators,
they're supposedly right wing fascists.
Of course. Oh yes.
They they are, they're barefaced.
You can see exactly who they are exactly.
The left wing protesters covered up and we'd actually couldn't
see who they're. Always masked up.
Yeah, absolutely. And then I look at all of those
young, the, the sort of the young Bangladeshi men, and it's
like they will. It's almost like they're in
uniform. So you're saying black shirts?
You know, we're presenting this as the back of the cable St.
OK, Well, mostly fascists with the black shirts.
Well, they're all there in black shirts.
Like, was it? What's actually going on there?
Not, not quite as cut and dry as the Guardian certainly would
have you believe. Sandy, let's come back to you
then and sticking with the idea of protest, but this time over
the dissenters. Yes, the, the goodly people of,
of Merseyside, their, their national residents association
held an event on Saturday and I, I was just really knocked out by
how aware they were and how well they presented their case about
these data centres because without the, the data centres,
digital ID cannot happen really. So here's one of the banners
from, from the from the event and it, it, it really he tells
you exactly what these data centres are all about.
If I can have the next slide up. Yeah, there's about, there's
hundreds of these planned for the UK.
They, they've got extreme power consumption, which is less power
for the people. One MW is 24 hours power for
1000 homes. There are massive fire risk due
to thermal run runaway which has happened and and these flat
fires take take hours and hours to put out.
And the, the the fire brigade are against these data centres
as well. By the way, generators and
lithium battery storage say these are all toxic water is
needed to cool them down. And it's, it, it really what,
you know, what these data centres mean for us is that
basically we lose out and, and the, and the digital ID marches
on. So I just want you to just, if
you could just listen to this, this clip from the National
Residents Association, which I must say I did.
I've done an interview with Cassie from National Residents
Association. Do look at it very, very
powerful. But let's have a look at this
next clip from the Merseyside National Residents Association.
Thank you. Welcome friends, concerned
residents welcome today's today's rally.
Sefton Residents Association part of the National Residents
Association and the the rally for today is about the site
which is proposed for a data centre just here Bridal Rd. in
Bootle. The aim of today's rally is to
raise awareness most local residents about the risks and
impacts and the things that they can do to push back against this
proposal. This proposal's in the planning
stage at the moment and we have every opportunity to push back
and work back against the the infrastructure that's been
placed upon us as part of a surveillance society.
Some background to National Residents Association, it was
formed in 2022 by a group of concerned residents from around
the UK. They must create a national
group which can protect our national and local communities.
New members are always welcome from anywhere in the UK and more
associations that join the more influencer that we have.
The National Residents Association is an umbrella
organization helping local groups to organize themselves.
Because Keir Starmer has given the British population the
greatest chance in human history to change this world for the
better. Inadvertently be it.
But he doesn't know the opportunity that he has given us
to unite behind one single cause, and that is the digital
identity. Yeah.
I want to cover three things.
I want to show you a vision of what his world will look like
and his global partners. I want to show you how and who
are putting this world together for us.
I want you to go away and research everything I say.
Do not believe anything I say, but I will give you specific
people who will tell you more detail and truth than I can.
And thirdly and most importantly, I want to give you
solutions. Well, there we go.
People of Sefton really, really well informed and and yeah, the
the National Residents Association doing a great job
there. Thank you.
Thanks, Sandy. Diane, let's let's come back to
you then. And Durham Cathedral has been
featuring Magna Carta. Yeah, they've had a really great
exhibition that has been on since July and it ends on the
2nd of November. So excuse me, I thought this
would be a good time to talk about the exhibition, which I
visited just over the weekend in case anyone wants to go in its
final week. So this is the officially, the
name of the exhibition is Magna Carta, and the North Durham
Cathedral in particular has a lot of documents that are
related to the Magna Carta, including early and original
versions which are not found everywhere and they're only
available every few years. So it's a really chance to see
what is available once you go into the exhibition space, you,
you, you first, you see a whole lot of really beautiful
historical items on display. So this is kind of just the sign
that you see when you're first going into heading towards where
the actual big Nakarta's are located.
So I just want to go quickly through a few of these just just
for a little bit of visual enjoyments.
There's some Roman stones here that are on on available for
example. We also have a library, so of
course is UK columns Librarian had to mention the library with
the space that you walked through to get to the exhibition
area was originally the dormitory of the monks that used
to be part of Durham Cathedral. And it has now been what is
called the new library since for since 1856.
When you finally go into the exhibition space where there are
only 15 people allowed in at a time and there is an airlock to
protect the documents that are available.
There are some things related to the basically the start of the
Magna Carta and some of the political situations that led to
what happened. So here's one for example.
That is I just took this photo because I thought it was just a
beautiful documents of course called Polypritus written by
John Salisbury around 11:59. This version is from about 14
Madrid and this document says, according to the exhibition,
explored political authority, including what makes a good or a
bad ruler. Drawing on stories from the
Bible of bad kings punished by God.
It even suggests ways to deal with them.
Quote. It is not only permittable
permitted, sorry, but it is also equitable and just to stay
tyrants to slay tyrants. Sorry, I'm confusing that to
slay tyrants. This text may have influenced
the barons when they included a clause in the 12:15 articles
putting the King's affair under their scrutiny.
So from there we could go on to see why the North and Durham
were so important to the Magna Carta.
It was the barons who rebelled against King John in the North
in 12/15. They were from all across
England, but most of them were from the North and so they
became known as the Northerners and they were the ones rebelling
against King John for some things that were going on at the
time. And these articles were the
barons that resulted from their work aimed at limiting the
powers of King John and preventing unjust behavior,
establishing that no one, not even the king, which is
important in 2025, was above the law.
These demands eventually became the document we know today as
the Magna Carta and Durham in particular was important because
it was being so close to Scotland and so on, but also
because of the the the northern location.
It was strategically important for various reasons, and they
sort of had some situations around the outside of the direct
authority of the crown, and they became very powerful for this
situation, geographically and politically and otherwise.
So I took a few photos which I know we won't be able to read,
but just to kind of understand what they look like to go
through very quickly. This is the original 1216 Magna
Carta. And then from there we've got
the 1217 Chamber of the Forest, which goes along with the Magna
Carta. This was issued on behalf of
King Henry the Third when he was 10 years old.
The charter curbed the unbridled power of the monarchy over
England's forest and reasserted the rights of the common people.
Then there's the 1225 Magna Carta, which is available next.
And then also we have the related 1225 Chamber of the
Forest, which again extended the the Magna Carta.
As I said previously in the updated version, this is from
the exhibition from the preamble from the 1225 Magna Carta with
the Great Seal of the King saying quote, know that we have
of our own spontaneous goodwill given and granted to all of our
realm. These liberties written below to
be held in our Kingdom of England forever.
And so this is known as the definitive Magna Carta.
The 1225 version the the kind of it was the one of the the final
version that as it was issued under the king seal was on the
28th of March 1300. And there are only a few
examples of the 1300 version that survives.
And Durham Cathedrals example is an almost perfect condition
apparently according to the other ones that are still in
survival, but is the 1225 version that is used as the
definitive version in terms of what the text says.
And so from there, we can see this was something that was
displayed in Galilee Chapel, which is part of Durham
Cathedral, sort of summarizing how this is still important to
us today, saying that Magna Carta established the principle
that everyone is subject to the law, even the king.
It guarantees the rights of individuals, the right to
justice and to a free trial. And I went there with Tim
Coulter from We the People Northeast, who has also
contributed to UK column. And so we talked about it a
little, a little bit standing there in Galilee Chapel.
And he's a bit of an expert on this.
So let's hear what he had to say about it.
This is Diane Rasmussen from UK Column.
I'm here in Durham Cathedral this afternoon with Tim Coulter
of We the People NE as well as has been a recent contributor to
UK Column as well. And we've just visited the Magna
Carta and the North exhibition which ends on the 2nd of
November. What did you think of the
exhibition, Tim? Well, it was a great pleasure to
come to this exhibition and actually finally see three
different Magna Cartas, the 1216 Magna Carta, which was one year
after the original Magna Carta, the 12:25 and the 1300 Magna
Carta. But it was a real thrill for me
to actually come and see them because I've got here one of my
books. I got Magna Carta and to the
Constitution of America and the effect it's had on the common
law constitutions of the world, which have been so badly
affected during the COVID period, of course.
So what? What do you think is the
relevance of Magna Carta to today's world in 2025 and 2020
as well? Well, I think it's got a massive
relevance in all sorts of ways. Obviously this, the Magna Carta
is the basis of of many individual liberties which have
been so attacked at the moment. It's the basis of course is the
trial by jury and the the fact they're trying to do it diminish
or get rid of trial by jury is extremely significant in the
attempt for we could say new aristocracies to try and take
over on general living and do away with the liberties of the
individual. And it seems to be something
that we're seeing now with some of the things going on in the
current government in this country.
Well, absolutely. I mean King John when 1215 Magna
Carte he's he put his seal to that I believe or he signed it.
And of course, we're seeing now he was an authoritarian and
we're seeing a similar attacks on us now through authoritarian
measures like the interaction of digital ID, taking away our
individual liberties which we fought for in the past and wish
to retain. I hope you can join me this
coming Saturday when I'll be speaking against Digital ID at
our rally up in Newcastle at the Monument.
Thanks for joining me today Tim. It's been a great afternoon.
I appreciate your time. Oh, well, thank you very much,
Diane. Yes, it's excellent.
Thank you. Thank you.
So I would encourage everyone, if you can get up to Durham
before Sunday, this so which is the last day of the exhibition,
or to remind your local politicians and your national
politicians and monarchs that nobody is above the law in this
country. Indeed.
Thank you, Diane. Thank you.
Nobody is above the law. We'll see what happens,
particularly with the former Duke of York and see whether
whether he turns out to be above the law and not too distant
future. But look on last week's last
Monday's program, Ben, Last time we were on, I think we showed a
little bit of video from Edge of the Matrix.
With. Respect to the trans activists.
Indeed we did. Yes, I think Sandy showed it and
it showed a chap called Steve who was at our event up in York
last weekend being attacked in Liverpool.
And it got quite a reaction, not least in the chat box actually.
And I wanted to just replay it and just put another spin on
what we saw actually, because this is a really important issue
in terms of what's going on in the country.
And it's just what's the clip again?
Well, I hope you. Fucking Irish, the police.
It's been. Serious.
What the fuck is? That is assault.
You were making a muck. That is absolute.
Assault. Fucking.
Country you would make everything worse.
What? The fuck?
Why are you? Doing this, my friend fucking
died last year. So the first thing to say is,
and that woman should absolutely not have attacked him like that,
right? And that was uncalled for,
dangerous. If he got that stuff in his
eyes, potentially could have caused him some serious problem.
What was that stuff? It was like chili sauce
basically. So, you know, she's, I don't
know if she's deliberately gone to find something that's going
to cause him a problem, but you know, that's that she shouldn't
be doing that, right. But also, and what what I saw
happened in the chat box last week was a lot of people come in
basically just start insulting her, her looks and made a lot of
assumptions about her based on what she did and what she was
saying and all that kind of thing.
But if you actually listen to what she said, she said that,
well, you're making a mockery. She used some expletives that I
won't repeat, and she said you're making everything worse.
And then at the end, she said, I had someone die last year.
And what you're looking at there is someone who's experienced
some quite significant trauma, who's obviously got someone
quite close to them who has died.
And I don't know if they took their own life.
I don't know anything about it. But it's clearly had an impact
on her. And it sounds like it's related
to this issue of transgenderism. And I think what people need to
be cognizant of is that there are a lot of people in this
country who are being physically, mentally,
psychologically, spiritually abused by the system, by
academia, by teachers, by people in healthcare, by people in the,
you know, like, like psychologists.
I mean, this, this, these ideas are absolutely everywhere,
right? And they're in a bad way.
And what they need from us is empathy and understanding.
And I just wanted to, to replay that to draw that out, right?
Because it's very easy to demonise and point fingers and
go on about how awful other people are.
But even just in that clip, from what we just heard, you can sit,
you can sense, you can tell because she communicates it.
There's something really quite traumatic has happened to her.
And there's a lot more going on around that than that moment
where she lost control and she and she carried out that attack
and that kind of interaction. We need to avoid that.
But the issue that we're talking about here is absolutely going
to be front and centre over the next year or two is this.
This issue gets dragged out into the public discourse on a on a
more regular basis. So stick with us on extra
because I've got a couple of comments on this as well.
So we're going to have a bit of discussion on it.
We're also going to be talking about Magna Carta and so on.
But Diane, let's just end them with a final thought.
Yeah, well, I thought that since Halloween is coming up this
week, it was worth scaring everybody a little bit or maybe
trying to prevent some fear. So the New Jersey Department of
Health has said that to scare COVID away, that getting the
COVID vaccine is your best protection against COVID.
Talk to your healthcare provider.
So I'm not sure who's more scared of COVID or of the
vaccine in 2025, Mike. But either way, obviously we
should continue to be scared for sure.
For sure, that's definitely the message that is being
encouraged. OK, well, look, let's leave it
there for for today. Thank you very much, Diane,
Sandy and Ben. Of course, we'll be back in a
couple of minutes for some extra, don't forget germ warfare
tonight. And we'll see you at, well, 1:00
tomorrow actually for another interview.
And we'll be back for the news 1:00 PM on Wednesday.
See you then. Bye bye.