Ken McCarthy, thank you for joining me in the trenches.
Thanks for having me, I'm looking forward to this.
What is your background? It's a good question.
The most pertinent things are are are that I was very early in
the commercialization of the Internet, as in one of the
handful of people that even thought it was possible and you
know, help. I'm one of the Co inventors of
the banner ad, you know, which is the foundation of digital
advertising, which is the financial underpinning of the
Internet. And but I'm but I was interested
in the Internet large. I wasn't just interested in
advertising, but I knew it had to pay for itself or it wouldn't
survive. So my early so I was always
doing experiments. One of my earliest experiments
was using the Internet for journalism.
And I actually, they say that somebody else had the first news
blog, but his news blog was a year after mine.
So I don't understand how they calculate that.
So I believe I had one of one of the first, if not the first news
blogs and I, I realised, wow, journalism is terrible.
But I didn't know. I just was sort of reading the
newspaper like everybody else and figuring out, OK, they're,
they're doing their best. And as what I, my, my innov, my,
what I thought was an innovation at the time was, hey, we can
tell the whole story. Because when you have TV or a
newspaper, you only have a limited amount of space.
So naively, I thought the reason they didn't tell everything was
because they just didn't have space.
So I thought, we're going to liberate that and we're going
to, we have this website and we can put hundreds of pages on
about any story. So I was doing that about an
election fraud that took place in San Francisco.
And I soon discovered that the journalists didn't want to know
anything more than the official line.
And all they wanted to do was repeat the official line over
and over and over and over again.
They didn't want to do any investigation.
So I guess I got hooked on investigative journalism.
I keep saying I'm not a journalist, but I guess I don't
know what is it 25 years later, I guess I'm some kind of a
journalist. By saying that you are one of
the fathers of the banner ad, you've probably destroyed half
your audience right now. I know, but but if they have to
realise that if there were no financial underpinning, we
wouldn't have, you know what we would have here, Maybe they'll
like me after this. There was a parallel track, an
alternate reality that could have easily happened, and AOL
showed the way. America online, which some
people are too young to even know what the heck I'm talking
about, but in those days the online world was a walled city.
In other words, you had to log on to AOL and you only got to
see the content that was on the AOL server, believe it or not.
And people were paying, you know, by the minute to access
this tiny little slice of knowledge.
And Bill Gates saw this and thought, oh, I want to get into
that business. And he was on the verge of
putting his own version of AOL, you know, Microsoft version on
every desktop, you know, And he control, he still to this day,
Microsoft still really controls the desktop.
And that means we wouldn't have had an Internet.
We would have had the Bill Gates version of of a world city.
And we would be paying him by the minute or by the by the
month for whatever he saw fit to share with us that that could
have easily happened. There was a little, there was a
little pivot point when the web was very tiny for just so people
know what at the beginning of 1993, nobody outside of a very
tiny circle of tech people even heard of the web.
By 1995, it was a, a, a global phenomenon.
And the two things turned the, the, the corner on that number
one was a financial foundation, which was happened to be the
banner ad and the IPO, the initial public offering of a
company called Netscape, which went to the moon.
And people realised, oh, we can make money from this thing.
And then all the resources started pouring in.
But when I started and my colleagues started, the web was
a very tiny thing and we were all desperate to figure out a
way to make it a big thing. We had no idea.
By the way, we're I to this day we're all shocked at at how big
it became because it was the smallest imaginable seed when
when it started. I actually remember Netscape and
AOL and Google hadn't come out yet.
And we were, yeah, we were still using those little modems that
make that that funny sound, that connection sound.
OK, so you've been around, but you must have been a kid.
Yeah. I was in, I was in school still.
I can't even remember the other browsers, but I think Netscape
was the main one. Well, what happened?
This is this was really interesting.
So Netscape was the first out and they they they owned 80% of
the of the browser market. And then that's, and then
Microsoft said, Oh no, no, we can't have this.
And they came up with Internet Explorer and took the, the
browser market and basically crush Netscape, which, which was
their business model. Their business model was
whatever you're doing, we'll just throw together something
that looks like it and we'll give it away for free and you'll
be destroyed. And that's how Microsoft, you
know, based, they started with their, their monopoly on the
operating system and then they use that operating system like a
club really to pound every innovation and personal
computing into the ground. Unless they owned it they they
either would buy you at a low price and either integrate you
or just throw your company on the trash heap.
Or they would if you didn't sell.
If you weren't willing to sell they would destroy you.
That was basically their business model.
How did you go from that to piercing together the the puzzle
of the world as we see it right now?
Well, I'm I've always been interested in the puzzle of the
world, you know, So to me, all that web work was just another
well, two things. 1 I loved it. I loved the idea that anybody
could publish anything anytime and anybody in the world, South
Africa, UK, you know, Malaysia, wherever they are, they could.
TuneIn I thought that was that's, I thought that would be
the greatest thing on earth if that could happen.
And the reason I thought it was the greatest thing on earth is
I'm, I'm a puzzle maker, you know, I'm always putting puzzles
together. I love books.
My favourite place in the world when I was a kid was the
library. So it's all, it's all part of a
theme. OK, but the theme has been
pretty dire in the last few years, hasn't it?
You know what? It maybe has always been dire.
And somehow, somehow we've survived.
Somehow the goodness of humanity has managed to survive somehow
by by the grace of God, some miracle or something innate in
humanity. Because we've certainly had a
lot of nefarious forces lined up against us for a long time.
You know, now we just have a new flavour.
Obviously I'm referencing the COVID era and the segue there
is, is your is your is your, your two volume series of books
called Unveiling the COVID Con. The fact that you got 2 volumes
suggests that the that the con was really big it.
Was huge. It was huge.
And it's it, you know, unfortunately, without a
historical perspective, it's hard to understand what's
happening today. And it takes a lot of time to
develop a historical perspective because you have to do a lot of
reading and a lot of thinking. So that's what I think I
contributed very early on because some of those writings
are from, well, I, my original tweet, February 1st, I believe
2020, I said this is a vaccine marketing exercise.
And I said they're going to, they're going to roll out a
vaccine super fast and they're going to use more speed than
science. And, but, but it was, to me, it
was very predictable because I've been watching pharma for,
for decades now. And you know, I, I know there's
they're little tricks, but this was their biggest, this was
their, their greatest hit, but they basically assembled a lot
of expertise and propaganda that they've been developing for many
decades. And they just, you know, I think
it surprised them. I'm in fact, I know it did.
I don't think they thought they could push it as far as they
did, but they're in the game of always pushing the boundaries.
And I think every time they pushed, they could go further.
So they just kept pushing and pushing and pushing.
And there really was no push, no, no significant push back in
the early months, unfortunately. And so they took it as far as it
went. So what happened?
Well, we have a thing called respiratory distress, and it's
as old as humanity and it's probably as old as mammals and
reptiles, maybe even fish have it, I don't know.
But people get into respiratory distress and it's it, it tends
to be seasonal. And so when there's less
sunlight and when people are going outdoors less, they are
more likely to have respiratory distress.
And if they're very young and they have undeveloped, you know,
not fully developed immune systems, it may hit them hard.
You know, if they're, you know, not in good condition, it could
be any age, it could hit them hard.
So they, it, it, it was a framing, you know, in other
words, they, they took this natural occurrence and they put
a frame around it and they said, oh, this time it's the most
deadly occurrence ever. Now, now, if you want to go way
back, we had something in, in during World War One called the
great flu. And, and you've heard about, you
know, and they've been telling us for decades that the great
flu is going to come back someday.
We don't know when, we don't know how, we don't know what
form, but we got to be ready. We have to be vigilant.
But there was quite a bit of fraud about the great flu.
For example, people seem to neglect the fact that the great
flu occurred in the middle of one of the most ghastly wars,
perhaps the most ghastly war ever conducted.
You had men in trenches living without, you know, cooked food,
without sanitation, exposed to the elements, under severe
stress for months at a time. You know, there's never been
warfare like that before that does not lead to a healthy body,
you know, So if there's something to be caught, you
will, you will probably catch it.
The other thing that they they leave out of the history is
there was severe food shortages during World War One, especially
in Europe. Germany alone, which is was and
is a pretty well developed country, had over 300 recorded
major food riots. OK, when's the last time you saw
a food riot in the developed nation?
I mean, even in a dung kill. I mean, they don't happen very
often. And 3 / 300 recorded ones, which
means there might have been more.
So there was a so the civilian population and the military were
basically starving. And of course, you know the Four
Horsemen of the Apocalypse War. It's a sequence.
It's not. They don't all come together.
First War, then Famine, then Pestilence, right?
The war disrupts normal life. The disruption of normal life
develops, interrupts normal nutrition.
When normal nutrition is interrupted, people are more
vulnerable to illness. So the interesting thing,
there's so many interesting things about the great Flu, One
is nobody studied it when it was happening.
They just sort of declared it was the flu.
They didn't really do autopsies. They didn't really do scientific
studies. So those didn't come until the
1920s. So the very first study,
epidemiological study, occurred in the 1920s.
And they made an estimate that worldwide, 20 million people
died of it. But it was a very, you know, not
a really super rigorous estimate.
And then they stopped looking at it.
You know, they filed it away. It became one of these chapters
in history until Anthony Fauci and friends took over at NIH and
the CDC, and they were trying to Rev up their bureaucratic power
because they were put in business to deal with the kind
of disease that's transmissible infectious disease, right?
And infectious disease, thanks to plumbing was just, it was
basically going nowhere. It was disappearing.
It was becoming so rare. I mean, people would
occasionally die of it, but it went from being a very, very,
very serious problem. You know, a lot of people, like
even my grandparents, they lived in, in, in tenements in New York
that had no indoor plumbing. Can you imagine?
You know, of course people were dying of infectious disease, but
infectious disease wasn't a big deal anymore.
So they needed to gin up some threats.
So what they did was they started a cottage industry of
people revisiting the World War One flu.
And and so in the 80s, there was this explosion of scholarship
about the great flu. And they they raised the
estimate from 20 million to 50 million based on nothing.
And then more books are coming out.
And then, you know, every now and then they'd appear on the
news saying, you know, that great flu is terrible.
It could come back anytime. We have to be vigilant.
And now they've raised the estimate to 100 million died.
So anyway, that's been the drum beat for, you know, since the
1980s. It's coming, it's coming, it's
coming, it's coming. And when Ebola hit Africa and
when Zika hit Brazil and when bird flu came, they were trying
to use the, you know, that hysteria, that ground foundation
of hysteria that they built very meticulously and very thoroughly
to get more money and more power, right?
And so the ground was laid right.
Then the other problem and, and I don't know if I hope I sent
you. Did I send you the book Fauci's
First Fraud? No, but I did it.
But I do have a digital copy in front of me.
OK, so Fauci came in in the early 80s and he immediately
latched on to what he said was a a contagious disease with which
they gave the name of AIDS, right?
Autoimmune deficiency syndrome. Now, whenever you see syndrome
in a medical label, you know that it means they don't know if
it's a disease. If it's a disease, you know how
it's caused, what its mechanism is, and how to treat it when
they say syndrome. They 1st called.
They 1st called it grid I think. Right, right.
And they tried to pin it on on, on gay men.
They said, oh, these guys, you know, they caused this thing.
That was the idea. That was the original thing they
were trying to pull off. And that wasn't going well
politically. So, so they changed it.
Also, they became savvy. They realised, oh, this should
be a disease for everybody. We'll make more money that way.
We'll we'll develop more power. So what they did was, I mean,
first of all, catastrophic collapse of the immune system is
real. I mean that that happens to
people. But it usually, I mean, it
happens at the end of a very long process.
It's usually happens with people that are elderly, they've been
ill for a very long time. It's not something that people
just suddenly get because it it again, it's a syndrome.
It's like a collection of symptoms.
It's not a known, It's still not a known disease.
It's just a syndrome, right. So the very first lie was that,
oh, this is happening to young healthy men.
And the truth is the very first cases of this in youngish men,
they were all they were average age, mid 30s were people that
had actually abused themselves quite badly.
You know, they had they had, you know, using drugs.
They were also there was, you know, it was just it was a
culture at the time. And it's.
And like black Freddie Mercury. Yeah, and and and it's like
every population has a has a subsect subsection of it that
parties too much, right. They go, they, they have too
much of a good time. And, and this is what was
happening in the 70s and, you know, people were taking a lot
of, again, a very narrow, this is very important to understand
a very narrow subset taking a tonne of drugs, engaging a lot
of Rick, you know, risky behaviour, catching a lot of St
DS, you know, sexually transmitted diseases, taking a
lot of antibiotics, which is not good for you.
You know, if you need antibiotics, you take them, you
know, and there were folks that were taking them daily just in
case. Well, that's not going to end
well. Also, there was a kind of, there
was a certain drug that was very popular in among a very small
percentage of that, of that large community called poppers.
And this was something that was, you know, if you have, if
someone's having a heart attack, you need to open up every, every
blood vessel. You break this thing and they
inhale it and everything opens up.
So you do that in an emergency, but it's toxic.
It's highly toxic. It's known to be toxic.
Unfortunately, it became the party drug of choice.
And you, you could go to a bar or a club or a bath house and
they would have booze, but they'd also have poppers for
sale. And it was a chemical that you
could make for a penny and sell for $2.00.
So a lot of financial incentive and unfortunately at the time
the the gay newspapers were, were financially supported by
poppers, marketers and manufacturers.
So there were gay activists that were trying to sound the alarm
and saying guys, don't do this, this is dangerous, don't do
this. They couldn't get their articles
or letters published in the in the in the press because the
financial support for those newspapers was coming from the
poppers manufacturers. So if you look at the early
diseases that people had, they were in the nasal passage and
they were in the lungs. So they had a sort of a cancer
that normally is on the skin, but it was appearing in the
nasal passage and they also had a fungal infection in their
lungs. Now, you don't need to be a PhD
or a rocket scientist or an MD to know if you're inhaling A
carcinogen a lot like this was a really abused drug.
You might hurt the immune system in your nose, right?
And and if you don't do that, you might hurt the immune system
in your lungs. And the, the, the CDC, which is
our supposed, you know, great gods of public health, they knew
this. They knew that poppers were
dangerous and they knew that poppers were being abused.
And they deliberately kept the two signs that the two
knowledges from the public. They didn't say, hey, you know,
we know this is a dangerous substance and it's carcinogenic
and we know that some people are over abusing it, but we're not
going to, we're not going to. So you had the media,
specifically the gay newspapers didn't share the information and
the CDC didn't share the information.
Now, had that information been shared, a lot of lives could
have been saved. But what they did was they said,
oh, this disease is, is everywhere.
It's every. I mean, I got to tell you when I
was a kid in the 80s, I was in my 20s and the 80s, we all
thought we were going to die, everybody.
And, and what's her Oprah Winfrey, who's a very popular TV
host. And she had an amazing kind of
shit like. 35,000,000 viewers. She literally got on her show
and said within five years, what no, by by 1991 out of five
people in this audience is going to be dead from AIDS.
She said that to an audience, a television audience, that's how
frightened everybody was. And there was no cure.
There was no treatment. And that was the other thing
they said if you, if you have the, if you get this positive
test now, now you'll see where this rolls into COVID.
If we test you, you may not have a symptom at all.
You may be the healthiest guy in the world, but if you have this
certain virus in you, you're a dead man.
I knew a guy got he was healthy, he got the diagnosis.
He went home and blew his brains out because he, because he was,
because that, that the terror was so intense.
So the crap, everyone's waiting. Now.
Let's see how this fits into COVID, right?
Everybody's like, Oh my God, if I, oh, the other thing there,
Oh, it can spread so easy if you just walk across the street and
somebody on the other side of the street.
I mean, I'm exaggerating, but only a little bit.
They made it seem like it was in the air.
It was just blowing around and you were going to get it.
And if you got it, you were dead.
So when the cure finally arrived and, and, and in their case, the
cure was called was AZT. Does that, does that ring a bell
to you? Ever heard that of that
substance? Yes, I mean, here in South
Africa, it was a very, very big deal in the early 2000s.
There was also the, I mean, I think the, the, the ARV rollout
was one of the biggest in the world, which coincidentally
aligned with a huge number of of deaths.
Yeah, so, so for for the listeners that don't know AZT
was a drug, that they were, they were, they thought it was a
chemotherapy for certain kinds of cancer.
That's, and they tested it and it was so toxic that they, the
FDA banned it from further experimentation.
They said this thing's so bad, stop testing it.
It's terrible. Somehow Fauci managed to get it.
It approved by the FDA and all these people that had been
terrorised for years that oh, you know, you got a positive
test, you're going to die. They all were flocked to AZT.
And there's one historian and he's a gay fellow gay guy.
He's Harvard trained statistician.
You know, he said he estimates 300,000 gay men alone died of
AZT poisoning. I had a friend who was perfectly
healthy and he got the test results and they put, he got on
AZT and within a year he just wasted away and he was gone.
So they don't use it anymore. But to show you how twisted the
world is, Fauci declared that a victory, that that's, that was
his proof. So that's the model.
The model is tell people there's a new disease that no one's ever
seen before. Tell them that everybody's at
risk. Tell them if they get a positive
test, they're going to die. Make them sit on pins and
needles for months and months and months and then roll out
your crap, whatever it happens to be.
So they've been doing that forever.
And they played that playbook with, with COVID Now,
interestingly enough, the guy that invented the PCR test, you
know, do you know what that is? PCR test.
So for people that don't know, the PCR test is it's not
supposed to be a test. The, the man that invented it,
Carrie Mullis, and he won the Nobel Prize in chemistry for it.
So he's not a lightweight and he invented it.
He said this should never be used as a diagnostic test.
It's not meant to test. It's, it's meant to amplify
genetic material. So if you're doing genetic
research, you have to wait for stuff to grow biologically.
It just takes forever. So the PCR amplifies the, the
growth of genetic material so you can have material to work
with. So basically you can find
anything in anybody's blood if you amplify, if you run enough
cycles of, of the PCR test. In fact, before COVID happened,
somebody went through the New York City subway system with
swabs and they were swabbing, you know, they found every
disease known to man from every corner of the globe, but it was
in small numbers and people have healthy enough immune systems to
just not be, you know. So anyway, it, it was the very
same model. Declare a disaster, declare
you're going to die, declare everybody's at risk, declare
it's easily transmissible, scare the hell out of everybody, run a
bogus test that tells everybody they've got it, make them wait
and then roll out the the so called solution.
And this sounds like COVID, right?
And COVID was even worse because I I don't, I don't know what I
sent you and I'm sorry that I don't know, but I wrote another
book called What the Nurses Saw. Yes, I was about to ask about
that. Because you, what you're, what
you're talking about dovetails into your other book, also
called Fauci's First Fraud. This is this is one of the
grimmest tales ever. And basically I'll give you an
example. And this, this is these are all
first hand accounts from veteran nurses, by the way, not, you
know, flaky people that just got out of school yesterday.
We're talking about like people that have been like military
nurses or, you know, in battle zones or, or nurses in refugee
camps, you know, nurses that do air vac, you know, like, you
know, for like someone gets hurt in the mountains, like going
with it like hardcore nurses, you know, and, and yeah.
So the so the one of the most horrible stories I heard, this
happened in a New York City public hospital.
A young man came in in his 30s. He was hysterical because he
was, he was having trouble breathing and even watching all
the news about COVID. So he went in and the nurse saw
him and said, oh, this is this guy's just having a panic
attack. Well, he got whisked away into
the COVID ward. They intubated him.
They put him on a ventilator. And three days later he was
dead. And this is a very, that's sort
of the template for how a lot of people quote, died of COVID.
Now, for people that don't know what intubation is, they call it
the garden hose. That's that's how they what they
call it in, in house. It's you take a hose and you
basically put it down somebody's throat all the way down into
their bronchial area. To do that, you have to knock
them out. You have to paralyse them.
There are drugs called paralytics so that you don't
move and you have to give them very strong analgesics like
fentanyl, believe it or not. And so and then you don't just
give them a pill and they fall asleep.
You have a drip in their arm. You might have anywhere from 3
to 15 different drips that are just constantly going into your
body to keep you under paralysed and free of pain.
And then they have a machine that basically breathes, you
know, forces air down into your lungs and then it goes out and
then just it simulates breathing.
Well, if you put and, and anybody that does that for a
living, and we interviewed, they're called respiratory
therapists. The people that operate those
machines, they say, look, we only do that at the end of the
road, you know, if there's no other hope.
And then as soon as we put somebody on a Respira on a, on a
external respirator, we immediately next day test to see
if they're healthy enough to take them off.
Why? Because we know just simply
being on that respirator with the invasive procedure and all
those drugs and immobile and what are you eating?
You're not eating. You're being fed by a tube.
How are you? I mean, if we think this
through, it's a very unsanitary situation.
You have to be cleaned regularly.
I mean, it's a mess, right? So they always want to get
people off right away. So what did Fauci do?
They incentivized the hospitals to put people on these
ventilators. You got a big 5 figure bonus
just for putting them on one. And if you kept them on for 96
hours or longer, you got another bonus.
In other words, they took the normal medical procedure that
has been going on since the beginning of time.
And they incentivize people, They incentivize hospitals to
keep people on the on the on the vents longer than they should,
they should be. So they were saying people were
dying, you know, of COVID, A lot of people were dying of being on
event because it's it's, it's you.
You, you have a good chance of dying or being disabled for a
long time if you're on event just by virtue of being on the
vent process That happened. Yeah, too.
What's that? That also happened, yeah.
Oh yeah, they did it all. They did it all over.
And then the other the other thing they did was a drug called
Remdesivir, and it's a drug that was used to try to treat Ebola
when the Ebola, you know, and that's another Fauci production.
I mean, are there diseases in Africa?
Sure. You know, are there people in
certain circumstances who are living in really rough
conditions who develop what? Yeah, absolutely.
And so they were trying to treat this thing called Ebola and they
said, oh man, Ebola is terrible. It makes people's kidneys and
livers basically explode. I mean, not literally, but it
just destroys liver and kidney. So they were saying, oh, Ebola
is so bad it liquefies your internal organs.
No, it was the remdesivir that was doing that and they know it.
And it's actually listed as an adverse reaction.
Kidney and liver damage is, is listed on the on the, you know,
the paper as as an adverse reaction.
So again, somehow this drug which had been basically
withdrawn, it wasn't even, it wasn't used to treat Ebola.
It wasn't used to treat anything else.
But suddenly Fauci said, hey, this works with COVID.
And they started giving people a drug.
And by the way, this drug comes in a bag.
It's again, you don't just take a pill, It's a bag.
It's, it's a drip into your arm. And again, Fauci and friends in
the United States financially incentivized the hospitals to
administer remdesivir. And they would pay you based on
how on if you went through, if you, if you gave them one bag,
you'd get a certain amount of money.
But if you went through a whole course, you'd get more money.
So we found one case where this poor fellow was put through
three separate courses of remdesivir.
And every time the hospital's just hitting the, the cash
register, right? So many, many, many, many, many
millions of dollars were made by putting people on Remdesivir.
And, and the, the way it went was you'd come in to the
hospital and maybe you didn't even have any symptoms.
Maybe you had a broken arm and they test you for COVID.
And if it came positive, they'd put you in the COVID wing.
Now you're scared, right? And then you have to put, we
have to put ourselves back in the mindset.
Oh my God, I'm in the wing with the, with the deadly disease.
And then they then they would say, oh, you know, you're upset.
I can see you're upset. Would you like something to, you
know, help you relax? And they would give you, you
know, whatever tranquillizers they had available.
Well, the United States, I don't know how this works in other
countries, but once you accept a psychiatric medication in the
hospital, you no longer can get up and just walk out of the
hospital because you are now under psychiatric care.
And so they can keep you longer. So they would terrorise these
people and then they would put them on a, I forget the name of
it, but it's, it's, it's an external van.
And it's, it's a thing that goes completely over your face like
this. And they just pump air really
hard. It's like, it's like if you're
driving a car at 100 miles an hour and, and you're a passenger
and you stick your head out the window, the air's excepting
something straight in your lungs.
When you normally do that for somebody, you warn them you're
going to say, hey, this is really intrusive, so don't be
afraid. And I'm going to be right here
and I'm going to, you know, if you're worried, don't worry.
But what they would do is they'd strap this thing on, flip it on,
and then leave the people alone in the room.
They wouldn't explain, and then they would panic.
And then they'd say, oh, boy, you're not doing well.
I think you need full intubation, which is the
procedure that I talked about lately.
They had a whole assembly line and we, and we heard this story
over and oh, we heard it in Minnesota, we heard it in
Florida, we heard it in. So it's not like 1 bad.
I initially I thought it was 1 bad hospital in New York because
I've, I've, I've visited people in the public hospitals in New
York and it's scary, you know, it's not good.
And I thought, OK, this is 1 bad hospital, all right.
And then I realised as I talked to more nurses, Oh my God, this
happened all over the country. And then I realised they're all
telling the same story and they're, they don't even know
each other. Like it's not like they all got
together and said, oh, let's cook up a story.
It's like I would talk to nurses in Florida and they go, this is
what happened. I talked to nurses in Minnesota,
California, Texas, New York State, New York City, and I
realised, my God, this was a system.
And then I looked into it and by God, they weren't financially,
they set up financial incentives.
And so I don't know how it is in other countries, but the
hospital systems are run by Wall Street.
And the most important person at the any hospital is the CFO, the
chief financial officer, the doctors and the nurses, they're
just hired hands. And that's the other element to
this, the doctors and nurses, some of the veterans were
saying, what are you talking about?
We're not going to put, we're not going to intubate this guy.
He doesn't need it. And they were, and we're not,
I'm not going to give this guy Remdesivir because what, what
happened? What happened was they started
giving him disagree. And they saw people dying and
they said, oh, you know, I'm one nurse in particular.
It was like a, like she was a, she worked in refugee camps,
like she, she was an air vac. I mean, this is like a, you
know, Gold Star nurse, like not a, not a flake.
And she said, I'm not giving anybody this drug anymore.
I'm done. And they said, you give it or
you're out of here and she wouldn't give it.
And they fired her. And that was the other element.
If you spoke up, if you said anything, you were fired.
The other weird element is they had terror.
It's just, there's so many pieces to this.
But the other piece was they waived all the normal
requirements for working in intensive care.
Normally the people working in intensive care are experienced
with intensive care. They've received training,
they've had experience and so on.
What they were doing in New York, I don't know what they
were doing in. I mean, they're doing, they're
all over the country. I don't know how they did it in
other countries, but they were, they waived that and they said
if you've got an MD, if you've got a medical degree, you can
come in and work in the, the, the COVID ward.
You could be a podiatrist, you could be, you know, you know
anything. They were also bringing in
nurses that not only didn't have intensive care experience, some
of them hadn't even finished school yet.
And this is crazy because these are young women.
They don't know. I mean, I can't blame them.
How do you know? You go to school, someone tells
you what to do, you do it. I mean, I can't blame them.
So they're working in these intensive care units where
they're told that they're facing this dreaded disease.
People are dying left and right all around them.
They don't have any perspective. They don't have an experience
that this is wrong. And the doctors, some of them
were from other countries. Some of them could barely speak
English. Like they would just fly these
guys in. And they paid them a fortune.
Nurses were getting, I don't know what the doctors got, but
the nurses were getting $10,000 a week to work in the Cove.
Now there's a lot of people who are going to say, hey, $10,000 a
week, maybe I'll just do what I'm told.
And I don't know what the doctrine.
So, so it was, it was a complete cluster F as they say, right?
I don't know if they have that expression in, in South Africa,
but it was it, but it was designed.
It was, it was, it was bureaucratically enabled, right?
And that's the story. That's that's where.
That's the con and that's why it, it takes 2 volumes.
Now I can't find the Segway because you, you've, because
you've covered a lot of ground in your, in your books.
But I suppose perhaps the Segway has to do with lots of death.
But you've also written about what's going on in Gaza and,
and, and of course, linked to that is the Zionist project and
JFK, which is an absolutely fascinating link.
Well, it's, it's, you know, propaganda is always the first
horse that arrives, you know, in, in the battle.
It's the Segway. Right.
And so forever, forever, forever, forever.
Arabs, they always call them Arabs.
You know, it's like they don't distinguish.
They speak Arabic. That doesn't mean they're Arabs.
They could be Egyptian. They could be Moroccan's not an
Egyptian and an Egyptian is not an Algerian and and and a
Palestinian. You know, it's like crazy, but,
but that's the first level of propaganda.
Oh, they're all Arabs, you know, and they're all, and this has
been going back for hundreds of years.
You know, they're all, you know, they're unreliable.
They're they're, they're crafty, they're shifty, they're violent.
You know, there's all this madness, right?
So that's, that's the, that's the drum beat that's been going
on not for decades, but but for centuries, right.
And then of course, I don't know how it is in South Africa, but
in the United States we're just completely, our media is
completely and our politicians are completely in bed with in
the Zionist project. I think it's a good way to
describe it. They've done a very good job of
corrupting our politicians. They either pay them off or they
or they blackmail them. The they do a very good job of
controlling the news media. So here we have a in broad
daylight genocide that goes, I mean, it just gets the when you
just when you think it can't be any more horrific, they do
something even more unbelievable.
So what I did and I saw that coming a mile away.
And So what I did was when South Africa, the great Republic of
South Africa, filed a claim against Israel in the World
Court and and they did it so fast.
You know, I said, all right, we all need a copy.
We need a physical copy of this claim with all the footnotes and
we need to make sure we, we need to save all the evidence online
because sometimes websites go down.
So what we did was we, we put that the South African
complaint, the whole thing with some introductory essays and so
on in book form. And then we backed up every
single website. Because that's the one thing
I've learned in my years as a web, as a web journalist, is
that websites disappear. Websites with important
information tend to disappear. So we had that book out even
before the the trial started. Like, I mean, the day that I
heard there was a formal complaint, we were immediately,
you know, making that book. So that was, that was round one,
Round 2, because Americans are very fond of JFK, as we
published a book called JFK Anti Imperialist.
And we wanted to make the point that this beloved president of
ours was against imperialism. And what?
Sorry, but he was. He was one of the very few US
presidents that wasn't completely bought by by the
Zionist project. Well, you know why his father, a
lot of people aren't aware of this?
Because because you know, there's mythology on on the
Kennedy side too. His father was at one point the
5th richest man in America. So he's like he had his father
had Bill Gates, Elon Musk type wealth.
His father was also very deeply embedded in the Democratic
Party. He had thought about running for
president himself. So he was a Wheeler and dealer
and he had already wired the country for himself to be
president. It didn't work out for various
reasons. And then the third element that
Joseph Kennedy had, because John, there would have never
been a JFK or an RFK in our in our, we would never have known
these guys existed had not been for their dad.
OK, they were, they're they were bright men.
They were courageous men. They were good men.
But but without the juice from their dad, they just, they
would, you know, one guy, JFK wanted to be a journalist, RFK
wanted to be an attorney. You know, they didn't have these
grand. So the third thing that the
father had, which nobody ever talks about, is that he is the
man among the many financial things that he did.
He is the man that modernised Hollywood as an industry.
When he went out to Hollywood, it was this like, you know, on a
tripod, a guy with a thing two actors and and, you know, and
then sound came in and, and that that took what was a very
inexpensive cottage industry and made everything super expensive.
Well, you need a good financier if you're going to get engaged
in super expensive enterprises. Joseph Kennedy was the financial
genius that that that managed the financial transformation of
Hollywood from this very primitive cottage industry to
this really big industrial thing.
So the reason I bring this up is he knew all about publicity,
glamour, taking pictures from the right angles.
So if you look at the the photographs of the Kennedys,
they always look like gods. You know, they're always
everything's lit. They're with their little kids,
they're on a sailboat, they're playing touch football.
That wasn't an accident, right? So you had the one of the
richest men in America who was wired into the Democratic Party
who knew how to position and he he couldn't get in.
So he wanted his sons to get in. So, so to answer your point,
they owed nothing to anybody. Their dad put them in that
position. They didn't have to go around on
bended knee and say, oh, we need a little money for this
campaign. No, they didn't have that
problem at all. So they were the only fully
independent, maybe, maybe Roosevelt to a degree.
I mean, no one's ever fully independent, but they were very
independent. And the third book that I, oh,
oh, I just want to talk a little about anti imperialism.
There used to be an anti imperialism stream in American
culture. It was active in the 19th
century. Our famous writer Mark Twain was
an anti imperialist. Andrew Carnegie, believe it or
not, the great steel magnate was an anti imperialist.
Grover Cleveland, a former president, was an anti
imperialist. Well, after World War One, they
just beat down anybody that wanted to talk about anti
imperialism. It just disappeared.
That whole movement just disappeared.
So John F Kennedy was actually an anti imperialist in the White
House. And so I, what I did in that
book was I, I have a collection of his speeches.
He gave a speech on the floor of the Senate saying that the
French had to get out of Vietnam and stop.
You know, it was a disaster. It was a, you know, he also now
here's where it's really gets interesting.
He gave a similar speech that the French had to get out of
Algeria. OK, now think about this.
He's a senator from a state, a pretty conservative state in
those days. We were in the middle of the
Cold War. There was no political benefit
to be had by speaking on behalf of the Algerian people.
Done. In fact, it cost him, but he
believed in it super strongly. And now here's something you
know, we all know. Everybody knows everything about
JFK except the stuff that matters, which is propaganda,
right? When France finally pulled out
after 150 years and they killed nearly 1/3 of the population of
Algeria over 150 years. I mean, it was as brutal as it
could be. They had they elected their
president. And what did JFK do?
He invent, he invited that man in the White House.
And usually you see these pictures, you know, like there's
a chair in here and a chair over there and they're sitting there
and shaking his no, no, no. He took over the entire backyard
of the White House, the Rose Garden.
He had colour guards from all the five militaries and it
wasn't three guys with a flag, it was 20 guys deep from each
military. He had the Joint Chiefs of
Staff, he had the vice president, he had everybody in
the government that he could find that day come out to honour
this man from Algeria and an Arab right because they speak
Arabic. And Algeria, now that was and
I've never, I have never seen and I ask anybody, everybody can
find this. Just go Algeria, President, JFK,
YouTube, you can watch the reception.
I have never seen an American president give a reception like
that to any human being. What was Kennedy saying?
And he said, we believe in freedom.
We're going to compete and we're going to compete hard, but we're
not going to put our feet on our heel, on your neck while we're
doing it. And we're going to treat you
like brothers. That's what he wanted to do Now,
interestingly enough, who was sending mercenaries to Algeria
to help the French kill Algerians?
Our South. Africa.
South Africa and their friends Israel and and for young people
that don't know this, the very last countries to support
apartheid were Israel and the United States.
So. And and the crown actually.
And of course, yeah, I mean, they they're always, they're
always they they just can't let it go.
They just can't let it go. So, so, so that's so that's that
gives, I think, some insight into where Kennedy's head was
at. And he was he.
Also, he also didn't like the CIA.
He. Didn't like the CIA at all and
his father didn't like the CIA and Truman who?
President Truman, who approved of the CIA being formed, didn't
like the CIA. In fact, he wrote a, he wrote an
editorial after Kennedy was killed, making some veiled
commentary. That editorial was pulled
because they used to have issues like the first issue would come
out in the morning and then that only ran once.
It was never seen again. But yeah, a lot of people were
concerned about the CIA. Now it I discovered, much to my
surprises, that there's a wonderful journalist called
Richard Medhurst. You may have, you may have heard
of. In fact, people haven't.
He's really good. And he's the guy that broke the
story that there was some crazy plan to drop 300 atomic bombs in
the Sinai Peninsula to build a canal from the Red Sea to
roughly Gaza actually. And I saw that and I real, I
learned it was real. And I thought I learned and I
saw the time front. I said, well, President Kennedy
would have never gone for that. He wouldn't have gone for that.
He was, he was the guy that stopped all above ground atomic
testing. So I, so I googled atomic
testing, Canal, Sinai, Kennedy, and up came this history that
I'd never heard of, which is that in the summer, and this is,
this is where it really becomes important in the summer of 1963.
Excuse me, is that right? Yeah.
Summer of 1963, what were the
what were the Kennedys doing? A lot of this was classified
until relatively recently. But there were all the cables,
all the letters, all the telegrams, and it was very clear
they were battling with Israel behind the scenes.
And they had two points they were making to Israel in the in
the summer of 1963. Number one, you may not have an
atomic bomb, OK, You want to do nuclear power, You want to do
nuclear research, fine. We need to go to your lab right
now and we need to see what you're doing.
Because if you're developing an atomic weapon, we're you and I
are going to have big problems. You know, and Ken and you know,
Kennedy was polite, he was cordial, but he was, he was
emphatic on that point. Your support, you will, you're
putting your the support of your country from our country at risk
if you if you do not allow us to see your nuclear facility.
Now they kept postponing and putting it off and now the
weather's not right and it's, you know, high, high holiday.
I mean, all this nonsense. And now his brother, who is
attorney general, unprecedented in American history to have two
brothers at that level. His brother was on the on the
Zionists about they're not filing as foreign lobbyists.
OK, In our country, you're allowed to lobby for anybody you
want. But if you're lobbying for a
foreign country, you have to register with the State
Department. And believe it or not, anytime
you have a meeting or a publication or anything with
more than three people and you're talking on behalf of that
country, you have to report that meeting and the content of that
meeting or speech or conference to the State Department.
It's a very strict rule. Every country follows it, even
the UK. There's only one country that
doesn't follow it to this day, and that's Israel.
And so they were given a free pass to propagandise without
limit, you know, you know, so that's that's that, right?
So I'm thinking, let's see. Summer of 63, the Kennedys are
fighting the Zionist project. Fall of 63, Kennedy gets a
bullet in the back of the head. I wonder if there's any other
connections between the Zionist project and Kennedy.
So I start digging. Most people know that it was not
a lone gunman who just had a grievance and got up in a
building and shot Kennedy. A lot of people are willing to
say that the CIA and the and the mob organised crime were somehow
involved, right? I mean, a lot, a lot of people
go there, but they're very vague and they always say, oh, you
know, it was rogue elements, right?
Which is sort of like rogue elephants, right?
But rogue elements of the CIA, they never named them, right?
And then they mentioned, when they mentioned the not mob, they
always mentioned the Italian guys, you know, Traficante, you
know, here's the reality. Let's go to the mob side.
There was a mobster named Meyer Lansky.
And Meyer Lansky literally put the organised and organised
crime. All right, we hear of organised
crime. How did that start?
Meyer Lansky and his buddy Lukey, Lucky Luciano, they were
bootleggers, and there was a lot of violence, you know, hijacking
people's beer trucks and all kinds of craziness going on.
And Myer Linsky called a meeting of all the gangsters and said,
look, guys, there's plenty of money for everybody.
Stop messing up here. So you get Cleveland, you get
Buffalo, you get this, you get that.
Don't cross each other's lines. And we're going to all make a
whole lot more money. So then they established a thing
called the Commission so that if anything important had to happen
that affected all of organised crime, they would all get
together physically and plan it out, right.
To enforce this Commission, Meyer Lansky and friends created
a thing called Murder Incorporated, OK, which a lot of
people have heard of from the movies.
And, and you kind of think of it as like 3 guys in Brooklyn and
you know, they killed some people occasionally.
No Murder Incorporated was a nationwide network of hit men.
And another word for hit men is really assassin.
It's the same job. And if you think of what a
hitman has to do, hitman has to surveil.
You have to know where your target is going.
You know what's his routine. You have to know what his
security is. You have to have a plan for when
he's going to be vulnerable. You have to have a plan to
commit the crime and get away. You have to have a plan to
commit the crime and get away and confuse the investigation
and think it's somebody else. This is what a hitman does.
So Meyer Lansky controlled 100 plus professional hitman.
OK. He also was a Zionist.
He ran guns to Israel when it was illegal to run guns to
Israel. He helped, he helped Israel get
nuclear material. So he was so so the the man who
was one of the key. And he also, he was the money
launderer, right? Very easy to commit a crime,
hard to get away with the crime, hard to get away with hiding the
money. That's why Al Capone, the great
gangster, went to gaol, not because he did all these crimes,
but because he didn't file his taxes correctly.
So the whole, the whole of organised crime looked to this
one guy because they're running around, you know, shooting
people, robbing banks, stealing drugs, running prostitutes, all
this crazy stuff, piling up the money.
Then they would go to Meyer and Meyer would launder it.
And he used a bank. He used a lot of, he used a lot
of methods. He used casinos.
He used, he actually used laundromats, but he used a bank
in Switzerland owned by Zionist elements.
OK, so when they say the mob was involved in killing Kennedy,
Mayer Linski had to be involved. But they never mention his name.
You can read 100 books. You can go to every
assassination conference. They'll always talk about the
Italians. They'll never talk about Meyer
Lansky. Now we go to the CIA.
It gets even worse. You have the director of the
CIA, right? He's the boss.
And you have you, have you heard that, oh, Allen Dulles was
somehow involved in the assassination?
That it's sort of for people that are into the assassination?
They'll say, oh, yeah, that he was mad at Kennedy.
You know, he was the director for a while.
They never talk about this other fellow.
This guy was director of counterintelligence.
OK. And I'll explain what
counterintelligence is in a second.
This guy was counterintelligence head for five different
directors of the CIA. He got in his job in the mid
50s. He didn't leave till the mid
70s. So it so CIA directors came and
went, came and went, came and went.
This guy always was in position. Counterintelligence, to sum it
up, simply is the guy that keeps the secrets for the CIA.
He's the guy that makes sure that covert operations are
designed to be covert and that they stay covert.
That's what counterintelligence is in it to, to, to oversimplify
it. And he had the same job for over
20 years. Guess what?
He was one of the founders of the Mossad.
He helped the Mossad get created because you know, when you start
a new intelligence agency, you don't know what you're doing.
So you go to your Big Brother, you know, the, the Americans
went to the British and the Israelis went to, to the CIA.
So he was one of the founders of the Mossad.
Bizarrely, while being head of counterintelligence, he was also
head of the Israeli desk. Now the way the way the desk
works in the CIA is if I like, if I'm the head of the the
Brazil desk, every bit of news that comes to the CIA gets
filtered to this Brazil desk. Now we collect it all and then
anybody in the government that wants to know what's going on in
Brazil, we distribute it to them.
So this guy, in addition to being head of
counterintelligence, a founder of the Mossad, was also running
the Israeli desk, which is unprecedented in the history of
the CIA. There are not one but two
memorials to him in Israel. And the Israelis considered him
the most important Zionist in America.
And his name was James Jesus Angleton.
And again, you can read many, many, many, many assassination
books. If they mention him at all, they
mention him in passing. And if you, you know so.
So the two guys from the CIA side and the organised crime
side, who had the most power and the most ability to carry out
this assassination and cover it up, happened to be Zionists.
It's always like that. It's crazy, but what's really
weird is I'm telling you, you can read every assassination
book. They'll never mention this.
So who's controlling the assassination research
community? You know, you know, can you get
your book published by a major publisher if you mention this?
No. Can you speak at a big
assassination conference and get paid and sell your books in the
back of the room? No.
So so the so the so the propagandising goes really,
really deep. How could we not know that our
president, our beloved president was fighting Israel the summer
before he got murdered? How can that not be common
knowledge? But it's not let.
Me ask you a question, Ken, is, is America a vassal state of
Israel or is Israel a vassal state of America?
You know, it's a good question and it's, it's like, let's say
you're a gangster, right? And you don't personally want to
dirty your hands. You don't want to go down to
this particular bad side of town and run things, you know, so you
find some promising gangsters and you put them in charge.
So I think that's what Israel is ultimately, you know, if we go
back to, I always forget the name, this guy, the famous
banking family, the big ones, the in England, you know, and
they, they're the ones that actually financed the movement
of Zionists to Israel in the first place.
I'll think of their name, but they, they people, people just
don't know how rich rich is, you know, and, and I'll give you an
example of how rich rich is this same family created as among
many projects they just had like you and I might, we might open a
restaurant together, you know, and we'll, you know, raise the
money and we'll rent a place, we'll hire chefs, we'll get food
that keeps us busy. These guys have so much money
and so much resources. They like terraform the globe.
For example, they, one of their agents, Rothschild, I'm sorry,
Rothschild, Roth, the Rothschilds wrote the cheques
for the original Zionist to go to Israel or to to Palestine.
Why did they do that? Well, one, there was the canal
that that went through Egypt that they didn't like the fact
that, you know, they knew the canal is so important.
It's the literal link between East and West.
And even though we're in a digital world now, we're, you
know, things are moved by ship. You know, the things we eat, the
things we wear, the things we drive, you know, are the things
that build our, it's moved by ship.
So that canal is super important.
So the Rothschilds clearly wanted to have their gangsters
in place. They also wanted to be able to
lend money. The, the, the population in
Palestine was self sufficient economically.
And this is a theme. Iraq was self sufficient
economically. The Palestinians were self
sufficient economically. The Libyans were self sufficient
economically. The, the, you know, that's not
helpful. The Russians are, are self
sufficient economically. Wall Street does not have it's,
it's claws in, in those countries.
Iran is self sufficient economically, right?
And so if you're a mega banker and, and it's not necessarily
the Rothschilds, I mean, they, they were the ones that got the
ball rolling. It's now it's this vast complex.
When you're a banker, you're a lot like a loan shark.
You know what a loan shark does? A loan loan shark lends money.
A guy's gambling, he loses money and the loan shark lends money
and he has to pay him 1% a month a week.
You know, banking is not much different.
You've got this money, you want to put it to work.
So you look around the globe and if you're on the Rothschild
level, you're looking around the globe going, oh, I got billions
of dollars here. Like I, I, I, I, I don't have to
worry about that problem. I don't have that problem.
But they have a problem of like, how do I put my money to work?
So in terms of the Middle East, they thought, well, let's put
some, you know, blue eyed, blonde haired European guys
smack dab in the middle of this place that we want to take over
ultimately. So that's how the original
Zionists got there. Another example that that that
of this, which I think is, is enlightening is when I was in, I
was in Guatemala and I was talking to a human rights
attorney and we talked about all kinds of things.
And we happened to be in the centre of the, the original
centre of the coffee industry in Guatemala.
And he says, Oh yeah, all this was built by the Rothschilds.
One of their agents discovered that you could grow coffee here
very well, and there was a lot of underused land.
And so the Rothschilds came in and they brought the trees, they
brought the experts. They they taught the big land
owners how to grow coffee. They built the fact that the
warehouses, they built the trains, they built the ports.
They invested all this money into creating the coffee
industry in Guatemala. So that's the level at which the
Rothschilds work or, or the big banks work.
Let's call them the big banks. So that's who put the Zionists
in Palestine originally. And so I think is so is it is
Israel running the world? No Israel's been given a free
reign or the Zionists have been given a free run to do all kinds
of crazy stuff because we, we who are the, the, the, the
royal, we, we see them as useful in a part of the world that we
ultimately want to take over. Because clearly the US is on
board with everything the Zionist projects doing.
I mean, it's so obvious. Like if, if we stop sending
weapons tomorrow, the, the genocide would be over because
they're running out of bombs. They can't make enough bombs.
So, so it's, it's the US, but the question is, who runs the
US? Is, is my, my big question is,
and, and it might go back to who runs the UK and there might be,
you know, there's and I think what it is, is huge capital is
looking at the world and saying, look, I don't like these guys
that are self sufficient. We need them to be borrowing
money from us. Do you know the book The hit?
The economic hit? Man, does that ring a bell?
I interviewed him. Well, you know, that's the deal.
It's like, well, Gee, you guys are feeding yourselves and
you're, you know, you could use some, maybe some science and
that we have and some technology we have, but you're pretty self
sufficient. That's not good.
We can't make money if you're self sufficient.
So let's put in a big damn. It's going to cost $10 trillion
and, and we'll, we'll front the money and you got to pay us
back. Of course, you never can.
So we, we've got our hooks in you forever.
So I think it's that mentality that runs the US, that runs the
UK, that enables Israel to exist.
That's my take. There is so much to talk about
Ken, and you've written a lot and you've covered a lot of
territory and I would love to chat more, but let's let's come
in for a landing. How can I follow your work and,
you know, get your books? Well, you know, no publisher
will publish my books and and and.
As I think, imagine that as I found out.
When I was helping Robert F Kennedy Junior Publish get his
book distributed, which was the real Anthony Fauci, bookstores
won't, won't, won't independent. So called independent bookstores
won't cover, didn't carry that book, wouldn't carry it,
wouldn't even take orders for it.
So anyway, I have to use Amazon. I also have Lulu, but if I think
if you go, oh, I should know this better, I think if you go
to brasschequebooks.com,
all my books are there. And maybe you could confirm
that. I don't know, do you?
I know this is ridiculous that I don't know because otherwise I
have independent websites like I have Fauci's first fraud.com.
I have what, the nursessaw.com. I have JFK, antiwar.com and
those are, Oh yeah, those are not only book sale sites.
We have lots of material, you know, videos, interviews, all
kinds of, so people can go very deep into the subjects whether
they buy the book or not. I I'm publishing books because
books are not easily disappeared.
You know, they're in your hand. They can't delete them, they
can't block them on social media.
You can hand a book to somebody. So that's why I'm in the book
business now. On that note, Ken McCarthy,
thank you for joining me in the trenches.
Thanks for having me, appreciate it.