Good afternoon. It's Friday the 19th of
September 2025, just after 1:00. Welcome to UK called News.
I'm your host Mike Robinson, my Co host in studio today, Patrick
Hennigson. Welcome to the program, Patrick.
Great to be with you, Mike. Journalist Mark Anderson joins
us by video link from the United States.
Later in the program. We're going to be looking at
rising censorship in the US, the Civil War erupting in the Corbin
Sultana camp, MI 6, taking to social media, would you believe,
and US claims of making their children healthy again.
But we're going to begin today with more on the Trump visit to
the UK. So Donald Trump has gone home
after a day with King Charles on Wednesday and then a day with
Keir Starmer yesterday. And it must have been very
exciting for him. Now, I'm going to apologise for
doing this in advance, but let's begin with an impression of what
happened on Wednesday at Windsor Castle, because this all
happened after the news programme on Wednesday.
Mr. President, Mrs. Trump, it is with great pleasure that my wife
and I welcome you to Windsor Castle on this, your second
state visit to the United Kingdom.
This unique and important occasion reflects the enduring
bond between our two great nations, anchored by the deep
friendship between our people. This relationship, which with
good reason we and our predecessors have long called
special, has made us safer and stronger through the
generations. Your Majesty, Melania and I are
deeply grateful to you and Queen Camilla for your extraordinary
graciousness. And to William and Kate, thank
you so much. It's been so great being with
you today. Thank you very much.
Appreciate it. It's a singular privilege to be
the first American president welcomed here.
And the if you think about it, they said it's a lot of
presidents. And this was the second state
visit, and that's the first. And maybe that's going to be the
last time. I hope it is actually.
But this is truly one of the highest honours of my life.
So it's the highest honour of his life.
You said the last state visit. I hope he doesn't mean for
future US presidents or just for him.
I would. No, McDonald, you never.
Know, no, I know that, I know that.
But anyway, you know, as I say, notably absent from that dinner,
by the way, was Prince Andrew. I wonder why?
But Trump then, of course, moved to checkers yesterday, and there
was a press conference held at the end of the day.
They emphasized the special relationship between Britain and
the United States. They presented a apparently
united front on Ukraine. They also also on war more
generally, actually. And Trump said he felt really
let down Patrick by Vladimir Putin, particularly in regard to
the war in Ukraine. Trump had expected, he said the
conflict to be easier to resolve given his past relations with
Putin. And then Starmer said that the
UK is leading on encouraging stronger pressure on Russia.
In other words, keeping the war going as fast as they can or as
much as they can. Trump urged Starmer to use
strong measures to curb irregular migration, and he even
went as far as the suggesting deploying the military at the on
the on the beaches. It was other than that, the
usual nonsense. But towards the end of the press
conference, it was of course, AQ and A and a Sky journalist asked
well about the elephant in the room.
Let's just listen to this. Finally, if I may, the elephant
in the room, Lord Mandelson, he is no longer the ambassador.
Do you have some sympathy with him that he lost his job over
historic links to Jeffrey Epstein?
Thank you. Very much.
I don't know him. Actually, I had heard that and I
think maybe the Prime Minister would be better Speaking of
that. There was a choice that he made
and I don't know what is your answer to that?
Well, I mean, it's very straightforward.
Some information came to light last week which wasn't available
when he was appointed. And I made a decision about it.
And that's very clear on the question of the pressure on
Putin. And so basically, they couldn't
change the subject quick enough, Patrick.
Starmer looked very uncomfortable when Trump punt
into him on on the Mandelson question.
Trump likes to do that. He likes to punt when he doesn't
know what to say, and Starmer got caught off guard there.
Absolutely, but it was Gaza which perhaps indicated the
tension between them. Certainly on that topic anyway.
Starmer said the UK would recognize the Palestinian state.
Not sure that he said when, but anyway, he said that it would as
part of a broader peace package. Trump disagrees, agreed with
that plan and well, then this happened.
Well, let me be really clear about Hamas.
They're a terrorist organization who can have no part in any
future governance in Palestine. And what happened on October the
7th was the worst attack since the Holocaust.
We have extended family in Israel.
I understand first hand the psychological impact that that
had across Israel. So I know exactly where I stand
in relation to Hamas. Hamas of course don't want 2
state solution. They don't want peace, they
don't want the ceasefire. I find that completely obscene,
Patrick. Not only, well I mean the Trump
smacking Starmer on the back, that was slightly weird in a in
a certain way, but but this idea that psychological damage is
equivalent to 10s if 10s of thousands of deaths is just
obscene. I mean, the threat of
annihilation is somehow Trump's actual genocide.
The report from the UN came out. We'll talk about that later.
But all this talk about the free hostages.
Free the hostages. There's 10,000 Palestinians
being held in arbitrary detention by the Israeli
government, and that's part of the negotiations.
That's been part of the ceasefire.
For Starmer to say Hamas doesn't want peace, doesn't want a
ceasefire is patently false. They've been in negotiations
multiple rounds even before Trump was sworn into office.
So I don't know what Keir Starmer is saying there or he's
just playing to Trump showing that he is resolute and
steadfast for Israel, all in for Israel.
And that's what it looked like. Because what Starmer said
doesn't actually correspond to reality.
So what other coverages have been on this issue of a
Palestinian state? Well, the that that's the big
story was when Starmer gave that kind of quid pro quo threat that
if Israel doesn't somehow stop the forced starvation of an
entire population in Gaza and work towards a negotiated
settlement or ceasefire, that they'll be punished by Britain
recognizing A Palestinian state. I mean, it's preposterous how he
framed that anyway. But that's that deadline is
September 22nd, which is coming up very quickly, I think early
next week. So what's going to happen as
resolve that? Let's take a look here and
again, going to the mainstream press here, papers of record in
this instance anyway for the Guardian Starmer to recognize a
Palestinian state after Trump's visit.
So let's take a look at that. This is basically the deal
Starmer threatened to quote, recognize Palestine during the
upcoming UN General Assembly unless Israel took decisive
steps to end the suffering in Gaza, reach a ceasefire, refrain
from annexing territory in the West Bank.
All of these things Israel is either not doing or doing
against what Starmer wants here and commit to a peace process
that results in A2 state solution.
Israel's already categorically Mike ruled out A2 state
solution. They don't want it. the United
States has ruled out A2 state solution.
So we're saying this really Keir really are you did you actually
say this? Do you actually mean this
because it's patently impossible.
I mean, it's it's not going to happen right.
So I mean, I don't know what what this is other than my to
buy time because by the time they get around to actually
recognizing A Palestinian state, there will be no more people
live Palestinians and Gaza, they have been killed or they have
been ethnically cleansed and they're working on the West Bank
as we speak, frog marching thousands of Palestinian men and
people out of their homes, burning homes, settlers
attacking Palestinians. I mean, that's what's happening
now. So what was this threat really
about? Was it, was it to buy time so
Israel could change facts on the ground or was it as, as we spoke
about before the program that it was designed to push Israel to
finish the job? That's a black pill take, right?
But it does look like that's pretty realistic based on what
we're looking at. Indeed.
Well, let's come back then to the the Wednesday banquets for a
moment. Because the AI, the AI All Stars
were there because as we mentioned on Wednesday's news,
the 31 billion tech prosperity deal, including the announcement
of the Stargate UKAI project, was made in time for Trump's
arrival. But the AI crowd weren't the
only ones with dollars in their eyes, dollar signs in their
eyes. More U.S. investment in the UK
was announced. That's about £150 billion of
investment that included £100 billion investment pledge from
Blackstone over the next decade into the UK.
Blackstone claims that they have quotes deployed more than 70
billion across over 100 businesses and investments in
the UK over the the past 20 years, supporting wide sectors
including housing, tourism, logistics and so they're
sticking another £100 billion in there as well.
So that's good news isn't it? Well, is it because of course
what is Blackstone a a vulture capital firm so that this an
asset stripping exercise effectively anyway, but.
Just quickly, Mike, they're one, they're one of those large giant
funds and firms that's buying up housing, right?
That's right, yeah. In the UK, in the America and
around Europe. So a certain percentage of
people at some point will end up having Blackstone as their
landlord. Absolutely. 3.9 billion
investors, uh, from this organization, uh, Prologis or
uh, they're another leading investment firm.
Uh, this is apparently going to strengthen its investment in
Cambridge biomedical camp campus and and major upgrade of the
Daventry International rail freight terminal, all great
stuff. This is, of course supporting
the growth in life sciences, which is something that both the
Tories and the Labour Party have been absolutely determined to
progress with life. Science, translated, means big,
Pharma big. Pharma it but also means
genomics, particularly specifically genomics research
and so on. So so that's that.
You'll be delighted to know that Palantir gets its claws even
further into the UK with another 1 1/2 billion pounds to help
make the UKA defence innovation leader and create 350 jobs, says
the UK government as it makes the UK it's new European
headquarters for war. The deal was signed by Secretary
of State for War John Haley, as you can see on screen there at
the moment. And it's going to help the UK
military develop the latest digital tools and harness AI
technology to accelerate decision making, improve
targeting and keep British people safe.
So we're going to keep British people safe by targeting, well,
everybody else it seems. And they say that some of these
new capabilities will support development of what's known as
the kill chain, whereby military planners fuse a wide range of
information and data sources from open source and military
platforms to provide military commanders with faster options
for attacking an enemy target. This would form, they say, an
element of the digital targeting web.
And that, of course, was in the Strategic Defense Review.
And we talked about that several weeks ago on this program.
So, you know, when we're talking about the targeting of
Palestinians in Doha or anywhere else, my question is who's
providing Israel with the targeting information?
I think Britain has a part to play in that.
Well, the. The targeting of journalists in
their homes using like the Knock knock or Daddy's Home AI driven
apps that the IDF using to target journalists and their
families. 350 jobs to the that's a real shot of adrenaline to the
economy. I think there's.
I'm looking forward to that, yeah.
Indeed, let's quickly move on. 150 million investments, sorry,
from American company Momentum, creating more than 3000 jobs
this time in Glasgow and Warrington and also across the
Midlands. Boeing is going to convert 2737
aircraft in Birmingham for the US Air Force.
So that's an impressive deal as well.
This is the the first US Air Force aircraft built in the UK
for over 50 years. So that's 150 jobs.
And US engineering firm Stacks is another 37 million to expand
their UK operations. And of course that's all net
zero and emissions reductions and so on.
So you know, what can we say? Major funding into UKUK based
research and development startups.
It's all about research. Sorry, they say about
accelerating because it's all accelerationism at work here.
Accelerating growth in biotech, AI and advanced manufacturing.
So there we go. What can we say about that?
Fantastic stuff. So all that.
Great deals coming to the UK? Supposedly yes, but that takes.
Us then if we're talking about that, we were talking about
Ukraine a second ago in that sort of part of the world,
there's more going on well. It's interesting this this the
exchange between Starmer and Trump.
We've always said that Britain's always been there to discipline
Washington, to make sure they're on track, continuing to escalate
against Russia. Certainly that's the dynamic,
the attitude we see between Starmer and Trump.
But you know, the the new front might be opening up in this that
will probably drag the United it States back in in a bigger way.
And that is Moldova. We'll bring this up on screen
here. Next stop.
Moldova. That's a legitimate question
there. And if we look at this, this is
a report at 21st Century wire.com.
Go in and have a look at this. Some interesting data has been
leaked, which was reported by a Turkish website, the Deke
Gazette, and also by the Ukrainian journalist as well,
Panchenko, who basically put out a lot of this information on her
ex account. And this is one of the things
we're looking at here, Mike, State visit by Maye Sandhu.
She is the pro Western, pro NATO, pro EU president of
Moldova. So this was only in I believe at
the end of July. And there she is meeting with
King Charles there. So the implication here, Mike,
is that and again here French Legionnaires, this is in the
leaks of of Moldovan and Transnistrian or origin being
shortlisted for special operations, potential false flag
in Transnistria to draw the Ukraine in to create a new front
for this conflict. If that happens, you know what's
going everyone, the global community, France, Britain are
going to go to Trump and say more weapons and cash for
Zelensky. Look, the Russians are hitting
us from Transnistria. That's how it's going to go.
So they're looking at destabilizing Moldova and the
breakaway pro Russian enclave of Transnistria in order to start a
new front in this proxy war. But really to drum up media
interest, this is also going to make an emergency for Romania as
well, which is bordering Moldova.
So you can see they still believe they have life left in
this conflict beyond the current front lines in Ukraine.
So we're telling people to pay close attention because there
are plans afoot led by France with the UK, Germany also in
Brussels involved, but led by France to fire up Moldova and
Transnistria. And that is extremely concerning
they're. Dying just to get some ability
to claim Russian attack on outside of the borders of
Ukraine itself. They're absolutely dying to do
that. Another.
Threat to Europe? Basically yes.
OK. Well, just very briefly, Mark,
if I welcome you to the program, what are your thoughts on what
we've just been discussing and this fantastic state visit,
second state visit by Trump? Well, certainly the two state
solution is something that is probably going to be in the
rearview mirror permanently. In other words, all that talk of
A2 state solution is is essentially impossible.
The destruction evidently is too great and for Starmer to talk
about a two state solution, even though at the same time he was
harping about things that made it sound like he would be
against such a thing. It's it's amazing the unreality
that's being embraced here as they talk about a two state
solution. I mean, how would that even be
done anymore given what's happened in the last year or so?
And so they've went from, you know, being unrealistic to sheer
fantasy in terms of declaring that they want a 2 state
solution. Because I really don't think
such a thing would even be desirable.
I mean, if you take it to the brass tacks, that was Palestine
and through the Balfour Declaration it was overthrown
and became what we know as Israel.
So A2 state solution, while it's probably physically impossible
and politically unrealistic, is really not even enough if you
look at the range and the the scope of the injustice that's
happened over the decades. Yeah, it's it would require much
more than A2 state solution to compensate for what happened to
Palestine, in my opinion. Yeah, absolutely.
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And let's have a look at the situation in the United States
with respect to censorship. And we'll begin with Jimmy
Kimmel. Yes, it is a ironic situation.
A lot of people find Jimmy Kimmel's humor to be kind of
crude, rude and lewd, often times in poor taste.
And apparently what he said, I don't watch him, but apparently
what he said was that with the Charlie Kirk event that the
Trump administration, those on the right in general were
reticent or hesitant to consider that it could be, quote, one of
their own that shot Charlie Kirk and that they wanted to too
easily blame the left. I won't quote Jimmy Kimmel on
exactly what he said. Some people found it to be in
poor taste. But the story is kind of behind
the story. In other words, there's more
going on. And it reminds me of the Sun
Valley ID annual billionaire event where I talked about
machinations going on with media consolidation and how Trump was
using that as sort of a bargaining chip.
Well, I got a slide here that just kind of sums this up.
ABC Yanks Kimmel to Curry FCC favorite question mark I'm
reading from some of my notes that I compiled.
Nexstar, which operates about two dozen ABC affiliates, issued
a press release saying it strongly objects to Kimmel's
remarks about Kirk and said it stations would replace the show
with other programming. But here's what's interesting
amid all what's going on As the smoker clears, Next Star is
seeking Trump administration approval to acquire another big
US station group called Tegna T e.g.
NA. The deal requires the FCC to
loosen the federal government's limits on broadcast station
ownership. Minutes after Next Star
criticized Kimmel publicly. ABC as a whole said the Kimmel
show was being yanked nationwide.
So in other words, Next Star may have did its part to yank Kimmel
off the air so it could Curry favor with the Trump
administration's FCC in order to buy Tegna.
And once again, as when I reported about Sun Valley, these
media consolidations that the Trump administration seems to
either favor or not strongly object kind of goes against the
grain of criticizing the fake news.
Because the FC CS real job is not to so much look at content,
not to take someone off the air because they disagree with what
he or she said. Their real job is mainly to
prevent consolidation from, to prevent anyone interest from
owning too much media. In other words, to reduce
ownership concentration like that and centralization.
So Trump's FCC commissioner, however, is, excuse me,
something went out there a little bit likewise.
But Trump's FCC commissioner, however, is looking at the
Kimmel thing on an ideological or political plane rather than
doing the FC CS core job, and that's to prevent media
consolidation. So that's sort of the story
behind the story right now. Thank you, Mark, sticking with
this issue, what's been going on around the whole Charlie Kirk
thing, We'll just. Continuing with the, the fallout
from the, the, the, the Charlie Kirk shooting and the political
fallout from that, it's interesting how this is
developing. And we'll bring on screen here,
that's the attorney general for Donald Trump, Pam Bondi, and
there's Charlie Kirk in the background.
So AG Ambani's confusion over hate speech and free speech
seems to be a problem here. It wasn't that long ago that
conservatives in the right were screaming and frothing at the
mouth about the radical left and left authoritarianism, cancel
culture, enforcing hate speech. This is the worst thing ever.
And all of a sudden, now MAGA becomes AOC.
It's absolutely incredible. Here is Pam Bondi from her own
words, speech. And then there's hate speech.
And there is no place, especially now, especially after
what happened to Charlie in our society.
Do you see more? Law enforcement going after
these groups who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on
people. So we show them that some action
is better than no action. We will.
Absolutely. Target you, go after you if you
are targeting anyone with hate speech, anything.
And that's across the aisle. That, that, that is just
incredible that that degree of attempted limitation on, I mean,
where's the 1st Amendment and all this from the.
From the country's top law enforcement official doesn't
actually understand or has read the Constitution, at least it
appears that way. But let's look at how this is
basically playing out Here is Pam Bondi and just to get the
statement that she made there, there's free speech and then
there's hate speech and there's no place, especially now after
especially after what happened to Charlie in our society.
It's all very arbitrary and very vague.
And that's the problem with hate speech.
This is the free Speech center. It's one of the few universities
in America, middle tenant Middle Tennessee State University that
has a specialist department on this very issue.
And this is what they say. This is, to put it bluntly,
absolutely false. so-called hate speech is free speech.
That is the whole point of the 1st Amendment.
So Pam Bondi here get it absolutely incorrect.
Wrong. She gets an F on her
constitutional one O 1 class on this.
So and and listen, don't take our word for it.
This is what Charlie Kirk said in 2020.
Is that even hate speech should be completely and totally
allowed in our country. The most disgusting speech
should absolutely be protected. And it's not a viewpoint that is
held by the left. The ACLU used to hold this
viewpoint. The American Civil Liberties
Union, they used, they sued so that legitimate Nazis could
March through downtown. Skokie, you remember this back
in the 80s and 90s. Now, why would the ACLU do this?
Because they. Said as soon as you were use the
word hate. That is a very subjective term
because then all of a sudden it is in the eyes or the IT is in
the implementation of whomever has the power.
So here's my belief, the more speech the better.
So that that that I mean, if they're talking about doing this
in Charlie's legacy, that that demonstrates that they're,
they're not respecting his legacy at all.
No it. Just shows how clueless all of
these political actors are. I was just speaking to a former,
a former board member of the ACLU last night, Garland Nixon,
who many people know who resigned from his position
because of the cancel culture and because of their pro big
pharma stance regarding speech in relation to vaccines.
So there's a people of principle on the old left that would
actually follow the Constitution.
That's what the ACL used to do. But here is the again, the
fallout from Pam Bondi. Why everything Pam Bondi said
about hate speech is wrong. This is from the Foundation for
Individual Rights and Education, defending free speech on
campuses across the United States.
And Pam Bondi, unfortunately, Mike had to walk this back just
a day ago, and she clarifies now that hate speech won't be
prosecuted. Let's get clarification on that
from the attorney general. Attorney General Pamboni tells
Axios her office is not prosecuting or investigating
anybody for alleged hate speech, only for speech that she says
unlawfully incites violence. Wow.
So she is picking this issue up gradually because the whole
point of hate speech, if you look at the constitutional cases
on these very issues, they're tied to incitement.
So the law states very specifically there has to be a
Direct Line to actual incitement or imminent incitement or
violence as a result of the speech.
If that cannot be shown at the time, then of course, they
can't. The government can't come in and
prosecute. Similar to yelling fire in a
crowded theater here. So that that's where that issue
is at the moment, Mike. Now, Donald Trump has taken it
to yet another level on this. Just to extend this discussion.
Here's what Trump has to say. And then woman, in many cases,
women, you can see they're professional agitators.
I had one the other night. I had four the other night, all
in one group, total phonies that started to scream when I got
into a restaurant. Oh, you know, something with
Palestine. And I said, well, I'm doing a
great job for peace in the Middle East.
I should get lots of awards for that, right, with the Abraham
Accords and everything else. But a woman just stood up and
started screaming and she got booed out of the place too.
The people, there were a lot of people in the restaurant.
I went there to show how safe and it was safe.
I mean, a woman is just a mouthpiece, or she was, she was
a paid, she was a paid agitator. And you have a lot of them.
And I've asked Pam to look into that in terms of Rico, bringing
Rico cases against a criminal Rico, because they should be put
in jail. What they're doing to this
country is really subversive. So for us Brits, what are Rico
cases? This is the Rico statute for
organized crime and racketeering.
I mean, it's a bit rich for Trump to be saying that because
he himself could be sued under a Rico statute for trying to
strong arm Disney and ABC threatening FCC, not approving A
merger and acquisition. I mean, that's racketeering from
the White House. So I mean, this president is
unbelievable. So Trump clearly doesn't believe
or understand the First Amendment or has never read the
US Constitution. I, I honestly think he hasn't
because if he did and even had a a freshman high school level
civics one-on-one understanding of it, he wouldn't say such
things because that is protected speech.
Just even if they are paid agitators talking about code
pink anti war protesters that bothered him during his
restaurant dinner the other night.
You can't send the attorney general after people that you
don't like who are protesting and exercising their First
Amendment rights. I mean, for a president United
States to say this, especially somebody who claims to be a
conservative who ran as a Republican, it's just it's, it's
beyond the pale. Honestly, I don't, I don't know
what to say. So it just goes from bad to
worse. Now let's let's look at this
issue regarding right here. We'll bring this up on screen.
So this brings up the, the section 230 debate, Mike, about
Wikipedia, Facebook, Are they they, will they allow free
speech or make editorial decisions?
If they do, they fall foul of Section 2:30.
So that's where this issue's coming up.
So now what's happening Mike and, and this is related to the
online safety conversation in the UK is that States and we
discussed it before individual states are doing end runs around
the 1st Amendment and around this Section 230 issue to bring
in digital IDs, for instance age checks.
And so the point is. It's exactly the same policy as
we have in the United Kingdom, but you can't do it in the
United States at a federal state level, at a federal state level.
It has to be done at an individual state level in an
effort to try to circumvent the limitations on the federal
government. Yeah.
Yeah, it is. And so this camp, this is
happening, these things will be challenged will some will be
knocked back in the in the higher courts, no doubt.
But there is a real pressure, isn't there from forces, various
forces to want to regulate speech online and they're using
every means possible to do it. And that's the thing that we
need to keep our our eyes on. So just to continue on this
discussion here now bringing up this issue, we'll bring this up
on screen here. This this went on to the Gray
zone, which was Max Blumenthal and your parent Bill penned the
story here basically saying that Charlie Kirk, according to a
source, offered to fund Turning Point USA.
Kirk refused, refused to take a trip to Israel, which Netanyahu
was asking for. And this wasn't long before his
his shooting, his death. So that's interesting and it and
it goes further here. Billionaire Bill Ackman convened
stormy Israel intervention with Charlie Kirk, say sources.
This was a meeting that was called in the elite Hamptons in
Long Island where Charlie Kirk was summoned for a struggle
session apparently on the issue of Israel.
At least that's the implication in the Gray zone story there.
So the circumstantial case is there's a lot of pressure from
the Israeli lobby, from Israeli interests on Turning Point.
And we talked about this last week, Mike, that Charlie Kirk
represents the billionaire donor class that pumped money into
Turning Point and made it a 100 million a year concern.
You're dealing with major forces here and a lot of Zionist
billionaires, Christian and Jewish in America.
So we'd be naive not to not to bring this up and not to discuss
it circumstantially. The forensic case of the
shootings, a separate conversation.
But these were the political forces that were swirling around
the 31 year old Charlie Kirk, very young man.
And you're talking about some big, powerful forces here,
including the ones that have captured the White House and
have captured Congress and Senate.
Now, here is Benjamin Netanyahu, who keeps denying that he had
anything to do with it. What's the old Shakespeare
saying, Lady? Doth protest.
Too much doth. Protest too much.
I think BB doth protest way too much.
Listen to this. Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi
propaganda minister, said that the bigger the lie, the faster
it will spread. Well, somebody has fabricated A
monstrous big lie that Israel had something to do with Charlie
Kirk's horrific murder. This is insane, it is false, it
is outrageous. Charlie Kirk was a giant, a once
in a century talent who defended freedom, defended America,
defended our common judeo-christian civilization.
Charlie loved Israel, he loved the Jewish people.
He told me so in a letter that he sent me just a few months
ago. One of my greatest joys as a
Christian, he said, is advocating for Israel and
forming alliances with Jews to protect judeo-christian
civilization. He encouraged me to make the
case directly to the American people about how vital Israel is
to US National Security. He told me the Holy Land is so
important to my life. It pains me to see support for
Israel slip away now. If Charlie disagreed with the
policy of mine or decision here and there, not only did I not
mind, I welcomed it. This is the essence of Charlie.
This is the essence of a free country.
It's exactly what Charlie stood for.
And I knew that his suggestions always came from the heart, from
his love for Israel and from his love for the Jewish people.
A few weeks before his death, I spoke to Charlie.
I invited him to visit Israel again, and sadly, that won't
happen now. Some are peddling these
disgusting rumors, perhaps out of obsession, perhaps with
Qatari funding. What I do know is this Charlie
Kirk was a great man, and a great man deserves honor, not
lies. Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk, may
your memory be a blessing. So he's implying that the Gray
zone are funded by Qatar, which is completely not true.
It used to be judeo-christian values, but now it's
judeo-christian civilization. This is a new upgrade to that
talking point. I, I wasn't briefed on that, but
thank you, BB for that. Now BB misquoted Joseph
Goebbels, let's bring the man himself up on screen here.
We'll bring this up on screen. There he is, Hitler's infamous
propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels.
There's the actual quote. So BB misquoted him.
The actual quote starts off with if you tell a lie big enough and
keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.
The lie can be maintained only for such a time as the state can
shield the people from the political, economic and or
military consequences of the lie.
So not only did BB misquote him, but he took it totally out of
context. We'll bring that up on screen
again. And you know, we shouldn't be
too hard here because clearly both men are passionate about
their propaganda and that is the bottom line.
Back to you, Mike. Yes.
Thank you Patrick. Let us come back to the UK then.
And well, a little less than a week ago, Craig Murray published
this article. It's your party and I'll cry if
I want to. Now, any of the argues that the
newly formed and your party led by Jeremy Corbyn and Zara
Sultana risk becoming undemocratic.
He and many others supporting the project assumed that it
would adopt one member, one vote democracy, with major decisions
on policy and leadership and so on made by all members, ideally
via online mechanisms. Instead, the party's leadership,
he said, is structuring to limit that democratic control, he
said. As I say, this is almost a week
ago now, he said. As of now, there are many people
who have signed up, but they have no formal membership
rights, no say in administration, no vote in
elections, no transparency over how money is spent or or who is
employed. He talks about local founding
meetings being held by selective invitation, also by small small
parties or union groups rather than open to all who's signed
up. And he talks about the planned
founding conference in November, which he says will be delegate
based and self selecting, and that ordinary supporters won't
be able to simply stand as delegates.
And he says that the methods used, splitting into working
groups moderated by pre chosen individuals, minimizing or
avoiding votes and debate, are designed to ensure control
remains with a small cadre. And he talks about taking part
at the Occupy meetings in Saint Paul's and seeing the same
tactics. There are tactics that you and I
both saw at at Saint Saint Paul's as well.
So he at the end of this article issues a call to action.
He says that supporters should demand immediate opening,
opening of formal membership and insist on Democratic delegate
selection. And he said that people should
be pressing for one member, one vote elections for all major
positions and ensuring policy decisions are voted on properly
to resist manipulative meeting formats.
And he believes that unless this happens, your party will mirror
the centralised top down political culture that it says
that it wants to replace. So that was a week ago and well,
yesterday all hell broke loose Patrick.
So a few days later, Zara Sultana seems to have taken what
Craig Murray wrote to heart and she apparently unilaterally set
up a membership website for the party and then spent yesterday
morning asking people to sign up on X and other platforms.
Now apparently 20, more than 20,000 people signed up at 55
lbs a pop and up to the point that Corbyn stepped in claiming
that the membership site was unauthorised on her statement
then is on screen because she posted this to X, she said.
My sole motivation has been to safeguard the grassroots
movement that is essential to building this party.
Unfortunately I've been subjected to what can only be
described as a sexist boys club. I've been treated appallingly
and excluded completely. They've refused to allow any
other woman with voting rights on the working group blocking
gender balance committee that both Jeremy and I signed up to.
And she said that the membership site was in line with the road
map set out to members on Monday and is a safe, secure,
legitimate portal for the party. So.
But I do wonder, Patrick, how much of this is just the latest
expression of infighting that began with the Beautiful Days
festival and her public statement of being an anti
Zionist. Yeah.
And also the repudiating the IHRA definition of
anti-Semitism, the thing that sunk Jeremy Corbyn and his
leadership and ultimately got him kicked out of his own party
that he served his whole career for.
But it it's interesting, like the Sortitian model, the
Sortitian model coming under criticism here when when done to
scale at big National Party levels, it's rife for hijacking,
isn't it? Absolutely for steering.
And next thing you know, especially the way it's
compartmentalised is exactly what Craig Murray is describing
here. Hugely problematic it.
Certainly is. It's certainly what Ben Rubin's
been warning about. We've been talking about it as
well. It it is hugely problematic.
But let's move back to international affairs and the UN
Commission. What's it been up to the well?
The report that's come out is completely without any real
challenge in terms of the data here.
Israel, according to the UN Commission, is guilty of
genocide, has has failed to prevent genocide, has enacted
genocide against the native Palestinian population here.
We've got all the details up here on this post as well as all
of the documents and the support links for this.
So if you want to see what's in this report, what it means, and
be able to click through the links as well as the embedded
document itself, it's there at 21st Century wire.com.
Mike. But it's important that we take
a look at the current situation right now, which is happening in
Gaza here. More than 2000, sorry, 250,000
have been displaced from Gaza in the past month.
I think that's a low estimate here, but this is according to
UN official figures here, 10s of thousands more fleeing makeshift
homes. And here is the bottom line.
Israel themselves, the Israelis claim that Gaza City is a Hamas
stronghold in that 50, sorry, 450,000 civilians have left.
So what will on on that issue of, of of how this is being
framed in propaganda? Let's take a look at this report
from ABC News. This pretty much is in a
nutshell how the US media, mainstream media is covering
this and it's absolutely appalling.
Let's listen The Israeli military says its forces are
expanding their activities in Gaza.
City Hundreds of thousands of people are being forced from
their homes and most have nowhere to go.
AB CS foreign correspondent Tom Sufi Burridge is in Tel Aviv and
just spoke to a spokesperson from the IDF.
Tom, what are they telling you? Yeah, they pushed back on on a
number of things. I challenge them on the evidence
that they've got the Hamas is using all of those high rise
buildings in Gaza which we've seen demolished by the IDF,
blown up. The IDF spokesperson basically
said that they have Intel he wouldn't publish or they won't
publish any of that Intel. But he suggested that Hamas is
using some of those buildings as lookout points basically onto
areas of Gaza City where the IDF is operating.
I also challenged them about this video of this young girl
being pulled from the rubble, which, you know, does speak
volumes, I think about, you know, the human toll in the war.
He wasn't aware of that video. But he's, you know, he
reiterated points that the IDF has said before, that the IDF
says it is doing everything in its power to try and mitigate
the risk to civilians, the human toll from the fighting.
His figures from the Hamas from Gaza Health Ministry are 65,000
people killed in this war, which is lasting nearly two years.
I also challenge the IDF Spokesperson, Chris, crucially
on this claim by the IDF that this operation in Gaza City
could last months. And I also said to them, well,
look, that the Trump administration has called for it
to be a potentially concise operation.
Those two things don't really seem to match up.
What was that term? That he used there.
Hamas LED Oh, the Hamas controlled Gaza.
Ministry of Health, right? This is this is the same kind of
thing. As the full scale invasion of
Ukraine, they're using these these buzzwords that actually go
across every mainstream media channel and they have to use
them. They have to use them to
discredit any of the. Claims or figures or death
figures coming out of Gaza. That's why that so-called
journalist use that caveat. The other thing he says, this is
a journalist, British journalist for the American outlet standing
there saying that he he's an in Tel Aviv and he just got done
speaking to the IDF spokesperson, an anonymous
unnamed IDF spokesperson. That is the extent of mainstream
journalism. They won't go and they're not
allowed to go into Gaza. They can only sit there and wait
and wait for bread crumbs of information from the IDF
spokesperson. And do you think that's going to
be objective? Do you think it's going to be
fact based? And then he goes on to basically
smear the Gaza Ministry of Health, calling it Hamas, then
discredit, and then he puts you into a cul-de-sac at the end.
Did you catch that? Oh, and I challenged him.
They said it was going to be a quick operation.
But then the Trump administration wants a quick
operation. But critics say it could take
months. So here we are arguing about the
timeline of this illegal ethnic cleansing operation and this
genocide, this annihilation of the native Palestinian
population. And the mainstream journalists,
they're playing tag team between the anchor and the so-called
reporter on the ground, have herded their audience into a
cul-de-sac. I mean, this is just
unbelievable. After two years, that's the best
these people can do. It's disgusting, honestly.
But we've had two years of this. So if you think, if you wonder
why Americans are clueless about what's happening in Gaza, This
is why right there. So anyway, but let's take a look
here at this, this timeline here, look at this.
We'll take take a look. So this is March 2025.
You can see there's that the, the large yellow box in the
middle, those are tents. OK, But it changes over time.
Let's take a look at that. So there, there are tents in
March right here. And then no tents because that's
been bombed. That's August 2025.
And that's September 2025 further destroyed.
So it's on a loop right now. So you can see the changes, Mike
here. Israel are bombing with US and
British weapons are bombing tent cities with with refugees in
them and they've annihilated all potential inhabitable buildings,
claiming that their Hamas lookout points.
That is what is going on right now.
And so while all this is going on here, here is the Israeli
minister Smoltridge, Bezelao Smoltridge.
Gaza is a potential real estate bonanza.
Israel talking with the US about dividing it up.
They're talking about this openly, and he said he said
something about how much. It was costing them to run this
operation, implying that they needed to make a profit out of
it somehow. Whinging about the overhead
costs, I mean. These people are are incredible.
So while that's going on, so they just annihilate Gaza a kill
and drive everybody out, say it's a big real estate deal for
Jared Kushner and everybody else, all the other sort of
parasites that will jump in on this deal.
But here are the figures. OK, this is Middle East Monitor.
This is a academic study done by Doctor Gideon Polia and
Professor Richard Hill, and they've calculated the death
toll since October 7th. OK, not just dead from direct
munitions, but also excess deaths as a result of health,
starvation, dysentery, injuries and so forth. 680,000 dead.
680,000 dead. How high does this number have
to go before it raises some kind of an alarm or an ethical alarm
for the British Prime Minister Keir Starmer, who only can
comment about how terrible Hamas was on October 7th but nothing
about the 680,000 dead. That's not a Hamas study.
That's, that's a Western academic study.
So when the numbers really come out in the end, and this is what
they're trying to suppress, this is what the Israelis, the
Americans, the British, the Europeans are trying to suppress
the true death numbers in Gaza, people missing or dead and, and
total casualties. It's happening, folks.
They're they're in the final stages right now.
So why we're all following Charlie Kirk and whatever the
other drama is or the state visit in the UK, Israel is right
now pushing for what they call the final solution to the
Palestinian problem. Wake up, people.
Absolutely. Mark, let me welcome you back to
the program now. And, well, children dying hand
over fist in Gaza. Nobody in the United States
seemed to care, but they're going to make their children
healthy over there. Well, this is going to be the
test guys. Of RFK Junior since his February
13 confirmation to be HHS Secretary.
The first slide is the cover page of a 20 page report
involving 11 federal agencies. Make Our Children Healthy Again
emphasis on the word healthy. It it even involves the US
Department of Agriculture and the EPA, as well as the NIH and
CDC and FDA and things like that.
The Maha Commission unveiled this sweeping strategy to make
our children healthy again, and it was unveiled around September
9th. The Commission has released the
Make Our Children Healthy Again strategy.
It's a sweeping plan with more than 120 initiatives to reverse
the failed policies they're saying that fueled America's
childhood chronic disease epidemic.
And there is a chronic disease problem with American children.
To be sure, the strategy outlines targeted executive
actions. And we hear this often to
advance gold standard science. That is repeatedly said gold
standard science. Let's put this slide up.
It kind of summarizes some important things The the
executive order that is relevant to to this was signed curiously
enough, the very day that RFK was confirmed back on February
13th. So they must have been pretty
confident that RFK would be confirmed because all of this
would had to have been laid out. President Trump at that time
signed Executive Order 14212 establishing the President's
Make America Healthy Again Commission and that EO, that
order directed that Commission to submit to the president what
we're talking about now, the Make Our Children Healthy Again
assessment according to the strategy report, the 20 page
strategy report. Now this is also important to
consider. Vaccine injuries are included
the Health and Human Services in collaboration with the National
Institutes of Health. They're saying we'll investigate
vaccine injuries with improved data collection and analysis.
This is a welcome thing, generally speaking, including a
new vaccine injury research program emphasis at the NIHS
Clinical Center that may expand to centers around the country.
So there could be these vaccine research, vaccine injury
research centers being built around the country.
Of course, these things remain to be seen.
This next slide shows the larger 70 page or so report from which
the 20 page strategy report was drawn.
This came from the White House itself again on September 9th.
That's what it looks like, that's the larger 70 some pages
and it talks about a strategic realignment to turn the tide and
better protect our children. We will begin reversing, they're
saying, the childhood chronic disease crisis by confronting
its root causes, not just its symptoms.
Again, emphasis there because that's important and it's good
to hear that after a century of costly and ineffective
approaches, the federal government will lead, They're
saying a coordinated transformation.
Big word there of our food, health and scientific systems.
And I list the sources there that for those that want to
freeze the frame but moving on from there, we have a couple
quotes from RFK Junior himself as HHS secretary.
This one, the Trump administration is mobilizing
every part of government, every part of government, he's saying,
to confront the childhood chronic disease, the chronic
childhood chronic disease epidemic.
Pardon me. And then there's another quote
from RFK. This strategy, he says,
represents the most sweeping reform in modern history.
Again, very big words, realigning our food and health
systems, driving education and unleashing science to protect
America's children and families. And this is another important
part I'm emphasizing here. He's saying, he's claiming we're
ending the corporate capture of public health.
That, of course, is a very big statement.
Ending the corporate capture would involve big Pharma.
That would involve, inevitably, if he's serious, the mRNA, the
whole the whole crisis brought on by the mRNA injections, which
aren't even traditional vaccines, which have caused so
much harm anyway. Looking back, very.
Briefly, I recently talked about how RFK was roasted by, among
others, Senator Bernie Sanders, and this slide just briefly
recalls that. And that was at the time
concerning the CDC Director, Susan Maneras, having been fired
by RFK. Several senior CDC officials
quit in protest, and RFK fired all 17 CDC vaccine advisory
committee members. He fired all of them.
That's what was happening at the time recently when RFK was put
on the hot seat by Bernie Sanders, among others.
But then there's been another hearing since then and this
article from the Children's Health Defense, the defender
talked about at the time, an upcoming Senate hearing, asking
is it a ploy by Big Pharma and the big media to position things
or create a climate to get RFK Junior fired?
Well, since that article ran that that hearing took place
this past Wednesday on the 17th. And this slide gives a summation
of that of the chairman of the committee, Bill Cassidy, a
Republican from Louisiana. He announced the hearing and it
initially did not have RFK on the hot seat.
He hasn't been interviewed yet. That's coming up.
The committee is continuing its work, but it's on basically it's
about restoring radical transparency at the CDC and
protecting Children's Health. But apparently Susan Maneras,
the former CDC official that was fired and a a colleague of hers
testify this past Wednesday trying to shift all the blame to
RFK, saying he's, you know, taking the CDCDC apart in an
improper way and trying to shift the focus off of them and on the
RFK. So RFK is evidently going to be
interviewed by that committee again.
So he'll be on the hot seat again soon.
But I'm looking at the overall report here, the 20 page report.
And to summarize very quickly, they're also looking at the root
causes of autism, although they don't mention vaccines
explicitly with involving the root causes of autism.
They're looking at more limiting of fluoride in public water
supplies. Vaccine injury, as I mentioned,
is on the table. Air quality, another important
one, microplastics and synthetics.
Food, in other words, nutrition as medicine, not just eating
better, but food being almost used in a medicinal sense.
Gut microbiome research where the microbiome, the floral
bacteria in your digestive system, which is so crucial to
your health, they're looking at that more closely.
So there's a lot of very positive things in here in terms
of the topics, in terms of the goals.
The question is, is is this is a very tall order.
This is, this is a very ambitious project.
Will RFK and his HHS, will they have blanks in the chamber or
are they going to fire real bullets?
And I'm just using a metaphor and really go after big pharma
control, really go after corporate control and make this
happen because there are a lot of good goals.
But in the time frame they have and considering the scope of
this thing, are they really going to be able to pull this
off? Of course, many of us would
support the idea of doing it, but can they?
And will they actually pull it off?
Because it's a very tall order. So it, there's some good news
here, but it's, it's a big mountain to climb.
So I'll leave it at that for now.
Thank you, Mark. It's.
I'm going to say it's a shame that you even needed to qualify
that statement by pointing out that it was a metaphor, but
that's maybe an A realisation of the free speech situation that
we're in these days. Look, let's finish with with
another with a light hearted story in a sense, in one sense
anyway. The Foreign Office put this
tweet out yesterday. It's it's quite, quite amusing.
It features a video which is supposed to be well, is it a
humorous depiction? Let's let's have a look at the
the video itself here scenario involving MI 6 delivering A
declassified message to the Foreign Office.
Now the the message well, spoilers, you'll see it in a
second. The message turns out to be an
announcement about MI 6 joining Instagram.
And we've got to we've got to wonder about that.
But MI 5 joined Instagram in 2021 with the stated aim of
showing exclusive views of life inside MI 5 and to host
questions and answers with intelligence officers.
So the question is, has MI 6 come in from the cold and joined
the realms of reputation management?
Is that what's going on? Well, maybe so, but not only for
that purpose. It's also apparently about
recruitment, particularly from abroad.
So they seem to be struggling with with recruitment at the
moment because they've also launched a YouTube channel
yesterday and there's several videos on that and they've these
were all the same video by the way.
They're all posted in a different, in a bunch of
different languages. I thought we might just briefly
have a look at the the English version of this for.
Over 100 years. The.
Bedrock of MI 6's work has been face to face now.
We can make those. Connections even more securely
online using our upgraded dark web portal Silent Korea.
So if you have. Access to sensitive.
Information relating to global instability or hostile
intelligence activity. You can now contact MI 6 and
share this securely using Silent Courier.
So, you know, don't know what to make of that.
I mean, clearly they feel that they need to encourage Russian
in particular. They're really looking for
Russians to get involved in this, Russian whistleblowers,
Russian spies to come and work for them.
It's quite incredible. So it's a reverse WikiLeaks that
they've. Put on the dark web there.
I mean, it's just kind of weird. This new public facing spook
agency posture is it's a bit strange.
It's a bit strange. Maybe we'll just get.
Used to it maybe? They'll be doing what do they
call those faceless videos AI generated content knockout some
of those videos with Palantir making that some some cool
little 3 minute, you know, sprightly they might do they say
that silent. Courier aims to strengthen
national security by making recruitment easier.
They say that they're looking for potential agents in Russia
in particular, as well as other parts of the world.
And this was announced, by the way, this morning.
Because the outgoing C and you can decide what C means to
yourself. Is it at Istanbul today
apparently to launch this in a speech there?
So. So there we go.
It seems to me like the easiest, most economic.
Route to national security. This is just me I'm of old
fashioned is a negotiated peace agreement with your so-called
adversaries. Isn't that the cheapest, most
direct and probably the most prosperous in the long term if
you think of the bilateral trade potential?
Well, Patrick, correct me if I'm wrong, but several. 100 years
ago, a few 100 years ago, because of a significant war,
the Treaty of Westphalia was signed by a whole bunch of
countries which founded the the basics that provided the basis
for the modern nation state. The first clause of that says
that you act in the interests of the other and that is the best
way to maintain peace. We just, we need to start
talking with each other, stop shutting down speech, talk,
discuss, and maybe we come to some agreement on things.
It's quite amazing how this kind of thing happens, the
indivisibility of security. That all countries need to be
secure in their borders and realms, not just the West.
So anyway, novel thought. Novel thought, Well look, we got
to leave it there for today. Thank.
You, Mark. Thank you, Patrick, stay with us
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