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Good afternoon. 
It's Friday the 19th of 

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September 2025, just after 1:00.
Welcome to UK called News. 

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I'm your host Mike Robinson, my 
Co host in studio today, Patrick

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Hennigson. 
Welcome to the program, Patrick.

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Great to be with you, Mike. 
Journalist Mark Anderson joins 

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us by video link from the United
States. 

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Later in the program. 
We're going to be looking at 

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rising censorship in the US, the
Civil War erupting in the Corbin

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Sultana camp, MI 6, taking to 
social media, would you believe,

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and US claims of making their 
children healthy again. 

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But we're going to begin today 
with more on the Trump visit to 

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the UK. 
So Donald Trump has gone home 

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after a day with King Charles on
Wednesday and then a day with 

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Keir Starmer yesterday. 
And it must have been very 

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exciting for him. 
Now, I'm going to apologise for 

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doing this in advance, but let's
begin with an impression of what

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happened on Wednesday at Windsor
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happened after the news 
programme on Wednesday. 

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Mr. President, Mrs. Trump, it is
with great pleasure that my wife

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and I welcome you to Windsor 
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state visit to the United 
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This unique and important 
occasion reflects the enduring 

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bond between our two great 
nations, anchored by the deep 

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friendship between our people. 
This relationship, which with 

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good reason we and our 
predecessors have long called 

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special, has made us safer and 
stronger through the 

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generations. 
Your Majesty, Melania and I are 

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deeply grateful to you and Queen
Camilla for your extraordinary 

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graciousness. 
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you so much. 
It's been so great being with 

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you today. 
Thank you very much. 

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Appreciate it. 
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the first American president 
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And the if you think about it, 
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presidents. 
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visit, and that's the first. 
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last time. 
I hope it is actually. 

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But this is truly one of the 
highest honours of my life. 

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So it's the highest honour of 
his life. 

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You said the last state visit. 
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future US presidents or just for
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I would. 
No, McDonald, you never. 

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Know, no, I know that, I know 
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But anyway, you know, as I say, 
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by the way, was Prince Andrew. 
I wonder why? 

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But Trump then, of course, moved
to checkers yesterday, and there

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was a press conference held at 
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They emphasized the special 
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the United States. 
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united front on Ukraine. 
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generally, actually. 
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let down Patrick by Vladimir 
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the war in Ukraine. 
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conflict to be easier to resolve
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UK is leading on encouraging 
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In other words, keeping the war 
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much as they can. 
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strong measures to curb 
irregular migration, and he even

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went as far as the suggesting 
deploying the military at the on

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the on the beaches. 
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usual nonsense. 
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conference, it was of course, AQ
and A and a Sky journalist asked

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well about the elephant in the 
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Let's just listen to this. 
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in the room, Lord Mandelson, he 
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Do you have some sympathy with 
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historic links to Jeffrey 
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Thank you. 
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I don't know him. 
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think maybe the Prime Minister 
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that. 
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and I don't know what is your 
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Well, I mean, it's very 
straightforward. 

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Some information came to light 
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when he was appointed. 
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And that's very clear on the 
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Putin. 
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change the subject quick enough,
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Starmer looked very 
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into him on on the Mandelson 
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Trump likes to do that. 
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know what to say, and Starmer 
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Absolutely, but it was Gaza 
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tension between them. 
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Starmer said the UK would 
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Not sure that he said when, but 
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part of a broader peace package.
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that plan and well, then this 
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Well, let me be really clear 
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They're a terrorist organization
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future governance in Palestine. 
And what happened on October the

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7th was the worst attack since 
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We have extended family in 
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I understand first hand the 
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had across Israel. 
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in relation to Hamas. 
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state solution. 
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don't want the ceasefire. 
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Patrick. 
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smacking Starmer on the back, 
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a certain way, but but this idea
that psychological damage is 

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equivalent to 10s if 10s of 
thousands of deaths is just 

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obscene. 
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annihilation is somehow Trump's 
actual genocide. 

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The report from the UN came out.
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But all this talk about the free
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Free the hostages. 
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being held in arbitrary 
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government, and that's part of 
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That's been part of the 
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For Starmer to say Hamas doesn't
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ceasefire is patently false. 
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multiple rounds even before 
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So I don't know what Keir 
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just playing to Trump showing 
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steadfast for Israel, all in for
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And that's what it looked like. 
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doesn't actually correspond to 
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So what other coverages have 
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Palestinian state? 
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story was when Starmer gave that
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if Israel doesn't somehow stop 
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entire population in Gaza and 
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settlement or ceasefire, that 
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recognizing A Palestinian state.
I mean, it's preposterous how he

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framed that anyway. 
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September 22nd, which is coming 
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next week. 
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resolve that? 
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again, going to the mainstream 
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this instance anyway for the 
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Palestinian state after Trump's 
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So let's take a look at that. 
This is basically the deal 

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Starmer threatened to quote, 
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upcoming UN General Assembly 
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steps to end the suffering in 
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All of these things Israel is 
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against what Starmer wants here 
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that results in A2 state 
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Israel's already categorically 
Mike ruled out A2 state 

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solution. 
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States has ruled out A2 state 
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So we're saying this really Keir
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say this? 
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because it's patently 
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I mean, it's it's not going to 
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So I mean, I don't know what 
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buy time because by the time 
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recognizing A Palestinian state,
there will be no more people 

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live Palestinians and Gaza, they
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been ethnically cleansed and 
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as we speak, frog marching 
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people out of their homes, 
burning homes, settlers 

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attacking Palestinians. 
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now. 
So what was this threat really 

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about? 
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Israel could change facts on the
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about before the program that it
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finish the job? 
That's a black pill take, right?

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But it does look like that's 
pretty realistic based on what 

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we're looking at. 
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Well, let's come back then to 
the the Wednesday banquets for a

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moment. 
Because the AI, the AI All Stars

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were there because as we 
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the 31 billion tech prosperity 
deal, including the announcement

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of the Stargate UKAI project, 
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arrival. 
But the AI crowd weren't the 

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only ones with dollars in their 
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eyes. 
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was announced. 
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investment that included £100 
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Blackstone over the next decade 
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Blackstone claims that they have
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billion across over 100 
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the UK over the the past 20 
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including housing, tourism, 
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sticking another £100 billion in
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So that's good news isn't it? 
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what is Blackstone a a vulture 
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asset stripping exercise 
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Just quickly, Mike, they're one,
they're one of those large giant

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funds and firms that's buying up
housing, right? 

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That's right, yeah. 
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around Europe. 
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people at some point will end up
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landlord. 
Absolutely. 3.9 billion 

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investors, uh, from this 
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uh, they're another leading 
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Uh, this is apparently going to 
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Cambridge biomedical camp campus
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Daventry International rail 
freight terminal, all great 

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stuff. 
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the growth in life sciences, 
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Tories and the Labour Party have
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progress with life. 
Science, translated, means big, 

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Pharma big. 
Pharma it but also means 

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genomics, particularly 
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and so on. 
So so that's that. 

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You'll be delighted to know that
Palantir gets its claws even 

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further into the UK with another
1 1/2 billion pounds to help 

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make the UKA defence innovation 
leader and create 350 jobs, says

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the UK government as it makes 
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headquarters for war. 
The deal was signed by Secretary

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of State for War John Haley, as 
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the moment. 
And it's going to help the UK 

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military develop the latest 
digital tools and harness AI 

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technology to accelerate 
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targeting and keep British 
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So we're going to keep British 
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everybody else it seems. 
And they say that some of these 

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new capabilities will support 
development of what's known as 

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the kill chain, whereby military
planners fuse a wide range of 

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information and data sources 
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platforms to provide military 
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for attacking an enemy target. 
This would form, they say, an 

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element of the digital targeting
web. 

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And that, of course, was in the 
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And we talked about that several
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So, you know, when we're talking
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Palestinians in Doha or anywhere
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providing Israel with the 
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I think Britain has a part to 
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Well, the. 
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their homes using like the Knock
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apps that the IDF using to 
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families. 350 jobs to the that's
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economy. 
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I'm looking forward to that, 
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zero and emissions reductions 
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research and development 
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accelerating because it's all 
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Accelerating growth in biotech, 
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So there we go. 
What can we say about that? 

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Fantastic stuff. 
So all that. 

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Great deals coming to the UK? 
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Us then if we're talking about 
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Ukraine a second ago in that 
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there's more going on well. 
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exchange between Starmer and 
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We've always said that Britain's
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Washington, to make sure they're
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against Russia. 
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the attitude we see between 
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But you know, the the new front 
might be opening up in this that

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here. 
Next stop. 

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Moldova. 
That's a legitimate question 

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there. 
And if we look at this, this is 

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leaked, which was reported by a 
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Gazette, and also by the 
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Panchenko, who basically put out
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ex account. 
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we're looking at here, Mike, 
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Moldova. 
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the end of July. 
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King Charles there. 
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is that and again here French 
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leaks of of Moldovan and 
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shortlisted for special 
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in Transnistria to draw the 
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for this conflict. 
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going everyone, the global 
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going to go to Trump and say 
more weapons and cash for 

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Zelensky. 
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us from Transnistria. 
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breakaway pro Russian enclave of
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new front in this proxy war. 
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interest, this is also going to 
make an emergency for Romania as

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this conflict beyond the current
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So we're telling people to pay 
close attention because there 

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are plans afoot led by France 
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Brussels involved, but led by 
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Transnistria. 
And that is extremely concerning

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they're. 
Dying just to get some ability 

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to claim Russian attack on 
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Ukraine itself. 
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that. 
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Threat to Europe? 
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OK. 
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if I welcome you to the program,
what are your thoughts on what 

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we've just been discussing and 
this fantastic state visit, 

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second state visit by Trump? 
Well, certainly the two state 

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solution is something that is 
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rearview mirror permanently. 
In other words, all that talk of

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A2 state solution is is 
essentially impossible. 

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The destruction evidently is too
great and for Starmer to talk 

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about a two state solution, even
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harping about things that made 
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against such a thing. 
It's it's amazing the unreality 

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that's being embraced here as 
they talk about a two state 

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solution. 
I mean, how would that even be 

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done anymore given what's 
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And so they've went from, you 
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fantasy in terms of declaring 
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solution. 
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such a thing would even be 
desirable. 

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I mean, if you take it to the 
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and through the Balfour 
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and became what we know as 
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So A2 state solution, while it's
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and politically unrealistic, is 
really not even enough if you 

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look at the range and the the 
scope of the injustice that's 

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happened over the decades. 
Yeah, it's it would require much

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more than A2 state solution to 
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Palestine, in my opinion. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

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OK, thank you for that. 
Now let's move on then. 

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Everybody that is contributing 

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in some way, we give you huge 
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appreciated. 
Now another reminder that we've 

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got an event coming up on the 
18th of October, UK, call them 

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on location. 
All the tickets are sold for 

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that now, but it is still 
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and get a ticket for that, that 
would be you'd be more than 

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welcome for that as well. 
Now tonight, Jerem is back for 

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one night. 
He's away in China at the moment

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and he is speaking to Carl Zha. 
He's got a little trailer here. 

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Let's have a look at that. 
It's. 

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An egg. 
It's a, it's a steamed egg. 

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So what do you do with it? 
So you just, you just drink it. 

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It's nobody cares if you just 
it's a private conversation. 

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This is like this. 
It's private conversation. 

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Nobody cares. 
They are worried that American 

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Internet platform will be used 
for will be weaponized for 

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sabotage. 
This is how. 

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You get ATV. 
Reality TV shows as the 

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President of the United States. 
We're in Shanghai. 

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This is Eminem play. 
We're listening to Eminem in 

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Shanghai feeds. 
Into what you're saying. 

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Earlier about the censorship? 
Not necessarily. 

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Being about trying to stop with 
the. 

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Influence exact. 
So for that full conversation, 

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7:00 tonight on the live stream,
join us for that and hope to see

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you there. 
OK, Mark, back to you then. 

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And let's have a look at the 
situation in the United States 

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with respect to censorship. 
And we'll begin with Jimmy 

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Kimmel. 
Yes, it is a ironic situation. 

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A lot of people find Jimmy 
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crude, rude and lewd, often 
times in poor taste. 

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And apparently what he said, I 
don't watch him, but apparently 

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what he said was that with the 
Charlie Kirk event that the 

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Trump administration, those on 
the right in general were 

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reticent or hesitant to consider
that it could be, quote, one of 

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their own that shot Charlie Kirk
and that they wanted to too 

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easily blame the left. 
I won't quote Jimmy Kimmel on 

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exactly what he said. 
Some people found it to be in 

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poor taste. 
But the story is kind of behind 

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the story. 
In other words, there's more 

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going on. 
And it reminds me of the Sun 

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Valley ID annual billionaire 
event where I talked about 

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machinations going on with media
consolidation and how Trump was 

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using that as sort of a 
bargaining chip. 

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Well, I got a slide here that 
just kind of sums this up. 

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ABC Yanks Kimmel to Curry FCC 
favorite question mark I'm 

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reading from some of my notes 
that I compiled. 

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Nexstar, which operates about 
two dozen ABC affiliates, issued

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a press release saying it 
strongly objects to Kimmel's 

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remarks about Kirk and said it 
stations would replace the show 

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with other programming. 
But here's what's interesting 

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amid all what's going on As the 
smoker clears, Next Star is 

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seeking Trump administration 
approval to acquire another big 

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US station group called Tegna T 
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NA. 
The deal requires the FCC to 

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loosen the federal government's 
limits on broadcast station 

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ownership. 
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criticized Kimmel publicly. 
ABC as a whole said the Kimmel 

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show was being yanked 
nationwide. 

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So in other words, Next Star may
have did its part to yank Kimmel

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off the air so it could Curry 
favor with the Trump 

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administration's FCC in order to
buy Tegna. 

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And once again, as when I 
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media consolidations that the 
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either favor or not strongly 
object kind of goes against the 

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grain of criticizing the fake 
news. 

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Because the FC CS real job is 
not to so much look at content, 

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not to take someone off the air 
because they disagree with what 

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he or she said. 
Their real job is mainly to 

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prevent consolidation from, to 
prevent anyone interest from 

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owning too much media. 
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ownership concentration like 
that and centralization. 

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So Trump's FCC commissioner, 
however, is, excuse me, 

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something went out there a 
little bit likewise. 

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But Trump's FCC commissioner, 
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Kimmel thing on an ideological 
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doing the FC CS core job, and 
that's to prevent media 

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consolidation. 
So that's sort of the story 

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behind the story right now. 
Thank you, Mark, sticking with 

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this issue, what's been going on
around the whole Charlie Kirk 

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thing, We'll just. 
Continuing with the, the fallout

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from the, the, the, the Charlie 
Kirk shooting and the political 

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fallout from that, it's 
interesting how this is 

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developing. 
And we'll bring on screen here, 

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that's the attorney general for 
Donald Trump, Pam Bondi, and 

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there's Charlie Kirk in the 
background. 

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So AG Ambani's confusion over 
hate speech and free speech 

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seems to be a problem here. 
It wasn't that long ago that 

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conservatives in the right were 
screaming and frothing at the 

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mouth about the radical left and
left authoritarianism, cancel 

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culture, enforcing hate speech. 
This is the worst thing ever. 

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And all of a sudden, now MAGA 
becomes AOC. 

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It's absolutely incredible. 
Here is Pam Bondi from her own 

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words, speech. 
And then there's hate speech. 

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And there is no place, 
especially now, especially after

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what happened to Charlie in our 
society. 

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Do you see more? 
Law enforcement going after 

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these groups who are using hate 
speech and putting cuffs on 

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people. 
So we show them that some action

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is better than no action. 
We will. 

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Absolutely. 
Target you, go after you if you 

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are targeting anyone with hate 
speech, anything. 

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And that's across the aisle. 
That, that, that is just 

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incredible that that degree of 
attempted limitation on, I mean,

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where's the 1st Amendment and 
all this from the. 

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From the country's top law 
enforcement official doesn't 

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actually understand or has read 
the Constitution, at least it 

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appears that way. 
But let's look at how this is 

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basically playing out Here is 
Pam Bondi and just to get the 

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statement that she made there, 
there's free speech and then 

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there's hate speech and there's 
no place, especially now after 

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especially after what happened 
to Charlie in our society. 

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It's all very arbitrary and very
vague. 

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And that's the problem with hate
speech. 

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This is the free Speech center. 
It's one of the few universities

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in America, middle tenant Middle
Tennessee State University that 

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has a specialist department on 
this very issue. 

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And this is what they say. 
This is, to put it bluntly, 

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absolutely false. so-called hate
speech is free speech. 

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That is the whole point of the 
1st Amendment. 

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So Pam Bondi here get it 
absolutely incorrect. 

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Wrong. 
She gets an F on her 

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constitutional one O 1 class on 
this. 

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So and and listen, don't take 
our word for it. 

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00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,840
This is what Charlie Kirk said 
in 2020. 

460
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,280
Is that even hate speech should 
be completely and totally 

461
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,680
allowed in our country. 
The most disgusting speech 

462
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,840
should absolutely be protected. 
And it's not a viewpoint that is

463
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,400
held by the left. 
The ACLU used to hold this 

464
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,360
viewpoint. 
The American Civil Liberties 

465
00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:10,120
Union, they used, they sued so 
that legitimate Nazis could 

466
00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:12,640
March through downtown. 
Skokie, you remember this back 

467
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,480
in the 80s and 90s. 
Now, why would the ACLU do this?

468
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,000
Because they. 
Said as soon as you were use the

469
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,360
word hate. 
That is a very subjective term 

470
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,840
because then all of a sudden it 
is in the eyes or the IT is in 

471
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,480
the implementation of whomever 
has the power. 

472
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,280
So here's my belief, the more 
speech the better. 

473
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,200
So that that that I mean, if 
they're talking about doing this

474
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,280
in Charlie's legacy, that that 
demonstrates that they're, 

475
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,320
they're not respecting his 
legacy at all. 

476
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,360
No it. 
Just shows how clueless all of 

477
00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:49,800
these political actors are. 
I was just speaking to a former,

478
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,400
a former board member of the 
ACLU last night, Garland Nixon, 

479
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,360
who many people know who 
resigned from his position 

480
00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:59,840
because of the cancel culture 
and because of their pro big 

481
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,760
pharma stance regarding speech 
in relation to vaccines. 

482
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:08,160
So there's a people of principle
on the old left that would 

483
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,640
actually follow the 
Constitution. 

484
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,400
That's what the ACL used to do. 
But here is the again, the 

485
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,720
fallout from Pam Bondi. 
Why everything Pam Bondi said 

486
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,280
about hate speech is wrong. 
This is from the Foundation for 

487
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,960
Individual Rights and Education,
defending free speech on 

488
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,720
campuses across the United 
States. 

489
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:30,440
And Pam Bondi, unfortunately, 
Mike had to walk this back just 

490
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,640
a day ago, and she clarifies now
that hate speech won't be 

491
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,000
prosecuted. 
Let's get clarification on that 

492
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,600
from the attorney general. 
Attorney General Pamboni tells 

493
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,840
Axios her office is not 
prosecuting or investigating 

494
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,480
anybody for alleged hate speech,
only for speech that she says 

495
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,680
unlawfully incites violence. 
Wow. 

496
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,840
So she is picking this issue up 
gradually because the whole 

497
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,400
point of hate speech, if you 
look at the constitutional cases

498
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,600
on these very issues, they're 
tied to incitement. 

499
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,160
So the law states very 
specifically there has to be a 

500
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:12,840
Direct Line to actual incitement
or imminent incitement or 

501
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,120
violence as a result of the 
speech. 

502
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,080
If that cannot be shown at the 
time, then of course, they 

503
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,520
can't. 
The government can't come in and

504
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,720
prosecute. 
Similar to yelling fire in a 

505
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,560
crowded theater here. 
So that that's where that issue 

506
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:31,880
is at the moment, Mike. 
Now, Donald Trump has taken it 

507
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,640
to yet another level on this. 
Just to extend this discussion. 

508
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:42,000
Here's what Trump has to say. 
And then woman, in many cases, 

509
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,400
women, you can see they're 
professional agitators. 

510
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,200
I had one the other night. 
I had four the other night, all 

511
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,880
in one group, total phonies that
started to scream when I got 

512
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,200
into a restaurant. 
Oh, you know, something with 

513
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,680
Palestine. 
And I said, well, I'm doing a 

514
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,120
great job for peace in the 
Middle East. 

515
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,120
I should get lots of awards for 
that, right, with the Abraham 

516
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,960
Accords and everything else. 
But a woman just stood up and 

517
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,600
started screaming and she got 
booed out of the place too. 

518
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,640
The people, there were a lot of 
people in the restaurant. 

519
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,840
I went there to show how safe 
and it was safe. 

520
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,640
I mean, a woman is just a 
mouthpiece, or she was, she was 

521
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,680
a paid, she was a paid agitator.
And you have a lot of them. 

522
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,400
And I've asked Pam to look into 
that in terms of Rico, bringing 

523
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,080
Rico cases against a criminal 
Rico, because they should be put

524
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,960
in jail. 
What they're doing to this 

525
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:33,720
country is really subversive. 
So for us Brits, what are Rico 

526
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,880
cases? 
This is the Rico statute for 

527
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,520
organized crime and 
racketeering. 

528
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,160
I mean, it's a bit rich for 
Trump to be saying that because 

529
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,000
he himself could be sued under a
Rico statute for trying to 

530
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:53,040
strong arm Disney and ABC 
threatening FCC, not approving A

531
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,160
merger and acquisition. 
I mean, that's racketeering from

532
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,560
the White House. 
So I mean, this president is 

533
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,080
unbelievable. 
So Trump clearly doesn't believe

534
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,680
or understand the First 
Amendment or has never read the 

535
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,880
US Constitution. 
I, I honestly think he hasn't 

536
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,680
because if he did and even had a
a freshman high school level 

537
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,960
civics one-on-one understanding 
of it, he wouldn't say such 

538
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,800
things because that is protected
speech. 

539
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,920
Just even if they are paid 
agitators talking about code 

540
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,720
pink anti war protesters that 
bothered him during his 

541
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,200
restaurant dinner the other 
night. 

542
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,400
You can't send the attorney 
general after people that you 

543
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,760
don't like who are protesting 
and exercising their First 

544
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,560
Amendment rights. 
I mean, for a president United 

545
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,200
States to say this, especially 
somebody who claims to be a 

546
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,720
conservative who ran as a 
Republican, it's just it's, it's

547
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,280
beyond the pale. 
Honestly, I don't, I don't know 

548
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,960
what to say. 
So it just goes from bad to 

549
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,200
worse. 
Now let's let's look at this 

550
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,320
issue regarding right here. 
We'll bring this up on screen. 

551
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,640
So this brings up the, the 
section 230 debate, Mike, about 

552
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,360
Wikipedia, Facebook, Are they 
they, will they allow free 

553
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,040
speech or make editorial 
decisions? 

554
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,600
If they do, they fall foul of 
Section 2:30. 

555
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,160
So that's where this issue's 
coming up. 

556
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,000
So now what's happening Mike 
and, and this is related to the 

557
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,760
online safety conversation in 
the UK is that States and we 

558
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,280
discussed it before individual 
states are doing end runs around

559
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,880
the 1st Amendment and around 
this Section 230 issue to bring 

560
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,000
in digital IDs, for instance age
checks. 

561
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,320
And so the point is. 
It's exactly the same policy as 

562
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,600
we have in the United Kingdom, 
but you can't do it in the 

563
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,560
United States at a federal state
level, at a federal state level.

564
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,120
It has to be done at an 
individual state level in an 

565
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,560
effort to try to circumvent the 
limitations on the federal 

566
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,440
government. 
Yeah. 

567
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,440
Yeah, it is. 
And so this camp, this is 

568
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,600
happening, these things will be 
challenged will some will be 

569
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,360
knocked back in the in the 
higher courts, no doubt. 

570
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,920
But there is a real pressure, 
isn't there from forces, various

571
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,680
forces to want to regulate 
speech online and they're using 

572
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,000
every means possible to do it. 
And that's the thing that we 

573
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,720
need to keep our our eyes on. 
So just to continue on this 

574
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,920
discussion here now bringing up 
this issue, we'll bring this up 

575
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,000
on screen here. 
This this went on to the Gray 

576
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,880
zone, which was Max Blumenthal 
and your parent Bill penned the 

577
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,000
story here basically saying that
Charlie Kirk, according to a 

578
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,440
source, offered to fund Turning 
Point USA. 

579
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,920
Kirk refused, refused to take a 
trip to Israel, which Netanyahu 

580
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:38,440
was asking for. 
And this wasn't long before his 

581
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,040
his shooting, his death. 
So that's interesting and it and

582
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,520
it goes further here. 
Billionaire Bill Ackman convened

583
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,200
stormy Israel intervention with 
Charlie Kirk, say sources. 

584
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,840
This was a meeting that was 
called in the elite Hamptons in 

585
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,400
Long Island where Charlie Kirk 
was summoned for a struggle 

586
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,200
session apparently on the issue 
of Israel. 

587
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,960
At least that's the implication 
in the Gray zone story there. 

588
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,720
So the circumstantial case is 
there's a lot of pressure from 

589
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,360
the Israeli lobby, from Israeli 
interests on Turning Point. 

590
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,480
And we talked about this last 
week, Mike, that Charlie Kirk 

591
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,960
represents the billionaire donor
class that pumped money into 

592
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,360
Turning Point and made it a 100 
million a year concern. 

593
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,120
You're dealing with major forces
here and a lot of Zionist 

594
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,639
billionaires, Christian and 
Jewish in America. 

595
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,239
So we'd be naive not to not to 
bring this up and not to discuss

596
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,440
it circumstantially. 
The forensic case of the 

597
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,120
shootings, a separate 
conversation. 

598
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,560
But these were the political 
forces that were swirling around

599
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,280
the 31 year old Charlie Kirk, 
very young man. 

600
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:47,199
And you're talking about some 
big, powerful forces here, 

601
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:50,360
including the ones that have 
captured the White House and 

602
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:51,719
have captured Congress and 
Senate. 

603
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,400
Now, here is Benjamin Netanyahu,
who keeps denying that he had 

604
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,000
anything to do with it. 
What's the old Shakespeare 

605
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,520
saying, Lady? 
Doth protest. 

606
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,560
Too much doth. 
Protest too much. 

607
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,520
I think BB doth protest way too 
much. 

608
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:11,000
Listen to this. 
Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi 

609
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,280
propaganda minister, said that 
the bigger the lie, the faster 

610
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,720
it will spread. 
Well, somebody has fabricated A 

611
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:22,720
monstrous big lie that Israel 
had something to do with Charlie

612
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:28,040
Kirk's horrific murder. 
This is insane, it is false, it 

613
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,400
is outrageous. 
Charlie Kirk was a giant, a once

614
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,040
in a century talent who defended
freedom, defended America, 

615
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,400
defended our common 
judeo-christian civilization. 

616
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,040
Charlie loved Israel, he loved 
the Jewish people. 

617
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,680
He told me so in a letter that 
he sent me just a few months 

618
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,040
ago. 
One of my greatest joys as a 

619
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,560
Christian, he said, is 
advocating for Israel and 

620
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,840
forming alliances with Jews to 
protect judeo-christian 

621
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,720
civilization. 
He encouraged me to make the 

622
00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:01,680
case directly to the American 
people about how vital Israel is

623
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,240
to US National Security. 
He told me the Holy Land is so 

624
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:09,760
important to my life. 
It pains me to see support for 

625
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,880
Israel slip away now. 
If Charlie disagreed with the 

626
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,640
policy of mine or decision here 
and there, not only did I not 

627
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,640
mind, I welcomed it. 
This is the essence of Charlie. 

628
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,400
This is the essence of a free 
country. 

629
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,480
It's exactly what Charlie stood 
for. 

630
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,840
And I knew that his suggestions 
always came from the heart, from

631
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,720
his love for Israel and from his
love for the Jewish people. 

632
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,520
A few weeks before his death, I 
spoke to Charlie. 

633
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,680
I invited him to visit Israel 
again, and sadly, that won't 

634
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,720
happen now. 
Some are peddling these 

635
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:48,440
disgusting rumors, perhaps out 
of obsession, perhaps with 

636
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,520
Qatari funding. 
What I do know is this Charlie 

637
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,360
Kirk was a great man, and a 
great man deserves honor, not 

638
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,880
lies. 
Rest in peace, Charlie Kirk, may

639
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:07,400
your memory be a blessing. 
So he's implying that the Gray 

640
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,840
zone are funded by Qatar, which 
is completely not true. 

641
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,440
It used to be judeo-christian 
values, but now it's 

642
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:20,760
judeo-christian civilization. 
This is a new upgrade to that 

643
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,440
talking point. 
I, I wasn't briefed on that, but

644
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:28,120
thank you, BB for that. 
Now BB misquoted Joseph 

645
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:33,200
Goebbels, let's bring the man 
himself up on screen here. 

646
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,520
We'll bring this up on screen. 
There he is, Hitler's infamous 

647
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,960
propaganda minister Joseph 
Goebbels. 

648
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,120
There's the actual quote. 
So BB misquoted him. 

649
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,000
The actual quote starts off with
if you tell a lie big enough and

650
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,360
keep repeating it, people will 
eventually come to believe it. 

651
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,000
The lie can be maintained only 
for such a time as the state can

652
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,120
shield the people from the 
political, economic and or 

653
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,720
military consequences of the 
lie. 

654
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,600
So not only did BB misquote him,
but he took it totally out of 

655
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,840
context. 
We'll bring that up on screen 

656
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,640
again. 
And you know, we shouldn't be 

657
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:11,440
too hard here because clearly 
both men are passionate about 

658
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,800
their propaganda and that is the
bottom line. 

659
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,400
Back to you, Mike. 
Yes. 

660
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,080
Thank you Patrick. 
Let us come back to the UK then.

661
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:24,520
And well, a little less than a 
week ago, Craig Murray published

662
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,120
this article. 
It's your party and I'll cry if 

663
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,120
I want to. 
Now, any of the argues that the 

664
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,680
newly formed and your party led 
by Jeremy Corbyn and Zara 

665
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,360
Sultana risk becoming 
undemocratic. 

666
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,400
He and many others supporting 
the project assumed that it 

667
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,120
would adopt one member, one vote
democracy, with major decisions 

668
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,960
on policy and leadership and so 
on made by all members, ideally 

669
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,200
via online mechanisms. 
Instead, the party's leadership,

670
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:58,480
he said, is structuring to limit
that democratic control, he 

671
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,440
said. 
As I say, this is almost a week 

672
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,000
ago now, he said. 
As of now, there are many people

673
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,800
who have signed up, but they 
have no formal membership 

674
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,240
rights, no say in 
administration, no vote in 

675
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:12,240
elections, no transparency over 
how money is spent or or who is 

676
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:14,880
employed. 
He talks about local founding 

677
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,840
meetings being held by selective
invitation, also by small small 

678
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,600
parties or union groups rather 
than open to all who's signed 

679
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,600
up. 
And he talks about the planned 

680
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,800
founding conference in November,
which he says will be delegate 

681
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,760
based and self selecting, and 
that ordinary supporters won't 

682
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,640
be able to simply stand as 
delegates. 

683
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,080
And he says that the methods 
used, splitting into working 

684
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,840
groups moderated by pre chosen 
individuals, minimizing or 

685
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,080
avoiding votes and debate, are 
designed to ensure control 

686
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,640
remains with a small cadre. 
And he talks about taking part 

687
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,520
at the Occupy meetings in Saint 
Paul's and seeing the same 

688
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,120
tactics. 
There are tactics that you and I

689
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,400
both saw at at Saint Saint 
Paul's as well. 

690
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:59,160
So he at the end of this article
issues a call to action. 

691
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,600
He says that supporters should 
demand immediate opening, 

692
00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:06,720
opening of formal membership and
insist on Democratic delegate 

693
00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:09,520
selection. 
And he said that people should 

694
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,240
be pressing for one member, one 
vote elections for all major 

695
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:16,000
positions and ensuring policy 
decisions are voted on properly 

696
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,080
to resist manipulative meeting 
formats. 

697
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,840
And he believes that unless this
happens, your party will mirror 

698
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,560
the centralised top down 
political culture that it says 

699
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,240
that it wants to replace. 
So that was a week ago and well,

700
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:34,240
yesterday all hell broke loose 
Patrick. 

701
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,400
So a few days later, Zara 
Sultana seems to have taken what

702
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:45,160
Craig Murray wrote to heart and 
she apparently unilaterally set 

703
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,840
up a membership website for the 
party and then spent yesterday 

704
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,120
morning asking people to sign up
on X and other platforms. 

705
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,600
Now apparently 20, more than 
20,000 people signed up at 55 

706
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,920
lbs a pop and up to the point 
that Corbyn stepped in claiming 

707
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,600
that the membership site was 
unauthorised on her statement 

708
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,080
then is on screen because she 
posted this to X, she said. 

709
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,400
My sole motivation has been to 
safeguard the grassroots 

710
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,640
movement that is essential to 
building this party. 

711
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,920
Unfortunately I've been 
subjected to what can only be 

712
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,680
described as a sexist boys club.
I've been treated appallingly 

713
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,960
and excluded completely. 
They've refused to allow any 

714
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,880
other woman with voting rights 
on the working group blocking 

715
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,800
gender balance committee that 
both Jeremy and I signed up to. 

716
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:32,640
And she said that the membership
site was in line with the road 

717
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,360
map set out to members on Monday
and is a safe, secure, 

718
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,400
legitimate portal for the party.
So. 

719
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,120
But I do wonder, Patrick, how 
much of this is just the latest 

720
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:48,480
expression of infighting that 
began with the Beautiful Days 

721
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,480
festival and her public 
statement of being an anti 

722
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,880
Zionist. 
Yeah. 

723
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,640
And also the repudiating the 
IHRA definition of 

724
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,160
anti-Semitism, the thing that 
sunk Jeremy Corbyn and his 

725
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,520
leadership and ultimately got 
him kicked out of his own party 

726
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,120
that he served his whole career 
for. 

727
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,400
But it it's interesting, like 
the Sortitian model, the 

728
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,320
Sortitian model coming under 
criticism here when when done to

729
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:19,400
scale at big National Party 
levels, it's rife for hijacking,

730
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,360
isn't it? 
Absolutely for steering. 

731
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,080
And next thing you know, 
especially the way it's 

732
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,880
compartmentalised is exactly 
what Craig Murray is describing 

733
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,680
here. 
Hugely problematic it. 

734
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,400
Certainly is. 
It's certainly what Ben Rubin's 

735
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,160
been warning about. 
We've been talking about it as 

736
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,200
well. 
It it is hugely problematic. 

737
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,880
But let's move back to 
international affairs and the UN

738
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,600
Commission. 
What's it been up to the well? 

739
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:49,520
The report that's come out is 
completely without any real 

740
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,680
challenge in terms of the data 
here. 

741
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,880
Israel, according to the UN 
Commission, is guilty of 

742
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,600
genocide, has has failed to 
prevent genocide, has enacted 

743
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,120
genocide against the native 
Palestinian population here. 

744
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,640
We've got all the details up 
here on this post as well as all

745
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,960
of the documents and the support
links for this. 

746
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,680
So if you want to see what's in 
this report, what it means, and 

747
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:15,120
be able to click through the 
links as well as the embedded 

748
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:19,520
document itself, it's there at 
21st Century wire.com. 

749
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,920
Mike. 
But it's important that we take 

750
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,080
a look at the current situation 
right now, which is happening in

751
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,760
Gaza here. 
More than 2000, sorry, 250,000 

752
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,960
have been displaced from Gaza in
the past month. 

753
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,680
I think that's a low estimate 
here, but this is according to 

754
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:39,320
UN official figures here, 10s of
thousands more fleeing makeshift

755
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,960
homes. 
And here is the bottom line. 

756
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:46,680
Israel themselves, the Israelis 
claim that Gaza City is a Hamas 

757
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:51,920
stronghold in that 50, sorry, 
450,000 civilians have left. 

758
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:57,120
So what will on on that issue 
of, of of how this is being 

759
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,240
framed in propaganda? 
Let's take a look at this report

760
00:44:01,240 --> 00:44:04,000
from ABC News. 
This pretty much is in a 

761
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,440
nutshell how the US media, 
mainstream media is covering 

762
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:08,920
this and it's absolutely 
appalling. 

763
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,880
Let's listen The Israeli 
military says its forces are 

764
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,720
expanding their activities in 
Gaza. 

765
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:17,120
City Hundreds of thousands of 
people are being forced from 

766
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,080
their homes and most have 
nowhere to go. 

767
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,360
AB CS foreign correspondent Tom 
Sufi Burridge is in Tel Aviv and

768
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,040
just spoke to a spokesperson 
from the IDF. 

769
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,720
Tom, what are they telling you? 
Yeah, they pushed back on on a 

770
00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:30,920
number of things. 
I challenge them on the evidence

771
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,040
that they've got the Hamas is 
using all of those high rise 

772
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,760
buildings in Gaza which we've 
seen demolished by the IDF, 

773
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,680
blown up. 
The IDF spokesperson basically 

774
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,200
said that they have Intel he 
wouldn't publish or they won't 

775
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,080
publish any of that Intel. 
But he suggested that Hamas is 

776
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,200
using some of those buildings as
lookout points basically onto 

777
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,720
areas of Gaza City where the IDF
is operating. 

778
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,080
I also challenged them about 
this video of this young girl 

779
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,640
being pulled from the rubble, 
which, you know, does speak 

780
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,680
volumes, I think about, you 
know, the human toll in the war.

781
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,440
He wasn't aware of that video. 
But he's, you know, he 

782
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,040
reiterated points that the IDF 
has said before, that the IDF 

783
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,920
says it is doing everything in 
its power to try and mitigate 

784
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,520
the risk to civilians, the human
toll from the fighting. 

785
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,480
His figures from the Hamas from 
Gaza Health Ministry are 65,000 

786
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:23,480
people killed in this war, which
is lasting nearly two years. 

787
00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:26,600
I also challenge the IDF 
Spokesperson, Chris, crucially 

788
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,240
on this claim by the IDF that 
this operation in Gaza City 

789
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:32,080
could last months. 
And I also said to them, well, 

790
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,360
look, that the Trump 
administration has called for it

791
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,320
to be a potentially concise 
operation. 

792
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,440
Those two things don't really 
seem to match up. 

793
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,080
What was that term? 
That he used there. 

794
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,400
Hamas LED Oh, the Hamas 
controlled Gaza. 

795
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,360
Ministry of Health, right? 
This is this is the same kind of

796
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,520
thing. 
As the full scale invasion of 

797
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,800
Ukraine, they're using these 
these buzzwords that actually go

798
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,160
across every mainstream media 
channel and they have to use 

799
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,240
them. 
They have to use them to 

800
00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:02,400
discredit any of the. 
Claims or figures or death 

801
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,160
figures coming out of Gaza. 
That's why that so-called 

802
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,280
journalist use that caveat. 
The other thing he says, this is

803
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,560
a journalist, British journalist
for the American outlet standing

804
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,200
there saying that he he's an in 
Tel Aviv and he just got done 

805
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,720
speaking to the IDF 
spokesperson, an anonymous 

806
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,920
unnamed IDF spokesperson. 
That is the extent of mainstream

807
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,120
journalism. 
They won't go and they're not 

808
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,080
allowed to go into Gaza. 
They can only sit there and wait

809
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,480
and wait for bread crumbs of 
information from the IDF 

810
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,960
spokesperson. 
And do you think that's going to

811
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,840
be objective? 
Do you think it's going to be 

812
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,200
fact based? 
And then he goes on to basically

813
00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:44,320
smear the Gaza Ministry of 
Health, calling it Hamas, then 

814
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,440
discredit, and then he puts you 
into a cul-de-sac at the end. 

815
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,080
Did you catch that? 
Oh, and I challenged him. 

816
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,440
They said it was going to be a 
quick operation. 

817
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,640
But then the Trump 
administration wants a quick 

818
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,000
operation. 
But critics say it could take 

819
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,520
months. 
So here we are arguing about the

820
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:04,840
timeline of this illegal ethnic 
cleansing operation and this 

821
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,120
genocide, this annihilation of 
the native Palestinian 

822
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,760
population. 
And the mainstream journalists, 

823
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,640
they're playing tag team between
the anchor and the so-called 

824
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,200
reporter on the ground, have 
herded their audience into a 

825
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,600
cul-de-sac. 
I mean, this is just 

826
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,800
unbelievable. 
After two years, that's the best

827
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,560
these people can do. 
It's disgusting, honestly. 

828
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:31,280
But we've had two years of this.
So if you think, if you wonder 

829
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:36,080
why Americans are clueless about
what's happening in Gaza, This 

830
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,200
is why right there. 
So anyway, but let's take a look

831
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,440
here at this, this timeline 
here, look at this. 

832
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,040
We'll take take a look. 
So this is March 2025. 

833
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,960
You can see there's that the, 
the large yellow box in the 

834
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,440
middle, those are tents. 
OK, But it changes over time. 

835
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,320
Let's take a look at that. 
So there, there are tents in 

836
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,320
March right here. 
And then no tents because that's

837
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,520
been bombed. 
That's August 2025. 

838
00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:07,480
And that's September 2025 
further destroyed. 

839
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,120
So it's on a loop right now. 
So you can see the changes, Mike

840
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,440
here. 
Israel are bombing with US and 

841
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:18,360
British weapons are bombing tent
cities with with refugees in 

842
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:23,960
them and they've annihilated all
potential inhabitable buildings,

843
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,400
claiming that their Hamas 
lookout points. 

844
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,200
That is what is going on right 
now. 

845
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,800
And so while all this is going 
on here, here is the Israeli 

846
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,840
minister Smoltridge, Bezelao 
Smoltridge. 

847
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,160
Gaza is a potential real estate 
bonanza. 

848
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,560
Israel talking with the US about
dividing it up. 

849
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,440
They're talking about this 
openly, and he said he said 

850
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,760
something about how much. 
It was costing them to run this 

851
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,760
operation, implying that they 
needed to make a profit out of 

852
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,960
it somehow. 
Whinging about the overhead 

853
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,560
costs, I mean. 
These people are are incredible.

854
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,920
So while that's going on, so 
they just annihilate Gaza a kill

855
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:03,240
and drive everybody out, say 
it's a big real estate deal for 

856
00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:06,320
Jared Kushner and everybody 
else, all the other sort of 

857
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,960
parasites that will jump in on 
this deal. 

858
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,960
But here are the figures. 
OK, this is Middle East Monitor.

859
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:19,000
This is a academic study done by
Doctor Gideon Polia and 

860
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,960
Professor Richard Hill, and 
they've calculated the death 

861
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,840
toll since October 7th. 
OK, not just dead from direct 

862
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:31,800
munitions, but also excess 
deaths as a result of health, 

863
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:37,640
starvation, dysentery, injuries 
and so forth. 680,000 dead. 

864
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,040
680,000 dead. 
How high does this number have 

865
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:47,160
to go before it raises some kind
of an alarm or an ethical alarm 

866
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,520
for the British Prime Minister 
Keir Starmer, who only can 

867
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:55,440
comment about how terrible Hamas
was on October 7th but nothing 

868
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,240
about the 680,000 dead. 
That's not a Hamas study. 

869
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,920
That's, that's a Western 
academic study. 

870
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,680
So when the numbers really come 
out in the end, and this is what

871
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,520
they're trying to suppress, this
is what the Israelis, the 

872
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,800
Americans, the British, the 
Europeans are trying to suppress

873
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:19,000
the true death numbers in Gaza, 
people missing or dead and, and 

874
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,560
total casualties. 
It's happening, folks. 

875
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,800
They're they're in the final 
stages right now. 

876
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,160
So why we're all following 
Charlie Kirk and whatever the 

877
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:31,120
other drama is or the state 
visit in the UK, Israel is right

878
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,440
now pushing for what they call 
the final solution to the 

879
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,600
Palestinian problem. 
Wake up, people. 

880
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:42,160
Absolutely. 
Mark, let me welcome you back to

881
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,280
the program now. 
And, well, children dying hand 

882
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,920
over fist in Gaza. 
Nobody in the United States 

883
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,720
seemed to care, but they're 
going to make their children 

884
00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:56,360
healthy over there. 
Well, this is going to be the 

885
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,840
test guys. 
Of RFK Junior since his February

886
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,200
13 confirmation to be HHS 
Secretary. 

887
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,720
The first slide is the cover 
page of a 20 page report 

888
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:13,440
involving 11 federal agencies. 
Make Our Children Healthy Again 

889
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,600
emphasis on the word healthy. 
It it even involves the US 

890
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:22,120
Department of Agriculture and 
the EPA, as well as the NIH and 

891
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,280
CDC and FDA and things like 
that. 

892
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:30,320
The Maha Commission unveiled 
this sweeping strategy to make 

893
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,160
our children healthy again, and 
it was unveiled around September

894
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,160
9th. 
The Commission has released the 

895
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,480
Make Our Children Healthy Again 
strategy. 

896
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:43,720
It's a sweeping plan with more 
than 120 initiatives to reverse 

897
00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:46,560
the failed policies they're 
saying that fueled America's 

898
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,720
childhood chronic disease 
epidemic. 

899
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,800
And there is a chronic disease 
problem with American children. 

900
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,360
To be sure, the strategy 
outlines targeted executive 

901
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,560
actions. 
And we hear this often to 

902
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,880
advance gold standard science. 
That is repeatedly said gold 

903
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,480
standard science. 
Let's put this slide up. 

904
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:09,600
It kind of summarizes some 
important things The the 

905
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,760
executive order that is relevant
to to this was signed curiously 

906
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,160
enough, the very day that RFK 
was confirmed back on February 

907
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,160
13th. 
So they must have been pretty 

908
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,040
confident that RFK would be 
confirmed because all of this 

909
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,360
would had to have been laid out.
President Trump at that time 

910
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:30,480
signed Executive Order 14212 
establishing the President's 

911
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:35,520
Make America Healthy Again 
Commission and that EO, that 

912
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,360
order directed that Commission 
to submit to the president what 

913
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,720
we're talking about now, the 
Make Our Children Healthy Again 

914
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,920
assessment according to the 
strategy report, the 20 page 

915
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,600
strategy report. 
Now this is also important to 

916
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,480
consider. 
Vaccine injuries are included 

917
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,360
the Health and Human Services in
collaboration with the National 

918
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,400
Institutes of Health. 
They're saying we'll investigate

919
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,960
vaccine injuries with improved 
data collection and analysis. 

920
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,160
This is a welcome thing, 
generally speaking, including a 

921
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:13,000
new vaccine injury research 
program emphasis at the NIHS 

922
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,520
Clinical Center that may expand 
to centers around the country. 

923
00:53:17,720 --> 00:53:21,480
So there could be these vaccine 
research, vaccine injury 

924
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,280
research centers being built 
around the country. 

925
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,640
Of course, these things remain 
to be seen. 

926
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:32,840
This next slide shows the larger
70 page or so report from which 

927
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,400
the 20 page strategy report was 
drawn. 

928
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,720
This came from the White House 
itself again on September 9th. 

929
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:43,040
That's what it looks like, 
that's the larger 70 some pages 

930
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,000
and it talks about a strategic 
realignment to turn the tide and

931
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,600
better protect our children. 
We will begin reversing, they're

932
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,680
saying, the childhood chronic 
disease crisis by confronting 

933
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,600
its root causes, not just its 
symptoms. 

934
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,800
Again, emphasis there because 
that's important and it's good 

935
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,200
to hear that after a century of 
costly and ineffective 

936
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,320
approaches, the federal 
government will lead, They're 

937
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,400
saying a coordinated 
transformation. 

938
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:13,240
Big word there of our food, 
health and scientific systems. 

939
00:54:13,240 --> 00:54:15,560
And I list the sources there 
that for those that want to 

940
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,480
freeze the frame but moving on 
from there, we have a couple 

941
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,240
quotes from RFK Junior himself 
as HHS secretary. 

942
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,520
This one, the Trump 
administration is mobilizing 

943
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,400
every part of government, every 
part of government, he's saying,

944
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,560
to confront the childhood 
chronic disease, the chronic 

945
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,040
childhood chronic disease 
epidemic. 

946
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,240
Pardon me. 
And then there's another quote 

947
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:43,440
from RFK. 
This strategy, he says, 

948
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,960
represents the most sweeping 
reform in modern history. 

949
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,200
Again, very big words, 
realigning our food and health 

950
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,120
systems, driving education and 
unleashing science to protect 

951
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,120
America's children and families.
And this is another important 

952
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,800
part I'm emphasizing here. 
He's saying, he's claiming we're

953
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,920
ending the corporate capture of 
public health. 

954
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,720
That, of course, is a very big 
statement. 

955
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:10,160
Ending the corporate capture 
would involve big Pharma. 

956
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:16,320
That would involve, inevitably, 
if he's serious, the mRNA, the 

957
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:21,200
whole the whole crisis brought 
on by the mRNA injections, which

958
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,200
aren't even traditional 
vaccines, which have caused so 

959
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:28,400
much harm anyway. 
Looking back, very. 

960
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:34,400
Briefly, I recently talked about
how RFK was roasted by, among 

961
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,680
others, Senator Bernie Sanders, 
and this slide just briefly 

962
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,600
recalls that. 
And that was at the time 

963
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,800
concerning the CDC Director, 
Susan Maneras, having been fired

964
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,440
by RFK. 
Several senior CDC officials 

965
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:55,160
quit in protest, and RFK fired 
all 17 CDC vaccine advisory 

966
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,360
committee members. 
He fired all of them. 

967
00:55:57,720 --> 00:56:03,000
That's what was happening at the
time recently when RFK was put 

968
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,800
on the hot seat by Bernie 
Sanders, among others. 

969
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,760
But then there's been another 
hearing since then and this 

970
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,840
article from the Children's 
Health Defense, the defender 

971
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,960
talked about at the time, an 
upcoming Senate hearing, asking 

972
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:21,680
is it a ploy by Big Pharma and 
the big media to position things

973
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,800
or create a climate to get RFK 
Junior fired? 

974
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:29,320
Well, since that article ran 
that that hearing took place 

975
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,640
this past Wednesday on the 17th.
And this slide gives a summation

976
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:38,760
of that of the chairman of the 
committee, Bill Cassidy, a 

977
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:42,200
Republican from Louisiana. 
He announced the hearing and it 

978
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,440
initially did not have RFK on 
the hot seat. 

979
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,520
He hasn't been interviewed yet. 
That's coming up. 

980
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,720
The committee is continuing its 
work, but it's on basically it's

981
00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:55,120
about restoring radical 
transparency at the CDC and 

982
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,720
protecting Children's Health. 
But apparently Susan Maneras, 

983
00:56:58,720 --> 00:57:03,520
the former CDC official that was
fired and a a colleague of hers 

984
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,560
testify this past Wednesday 
trying to shift all the blame to

985
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:12,680
RFK, saying he's, you know, 
taking the CDCDC apart in an 

986
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,880
improper way and trying to shift
the focus off of them and on the

987
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,520
RFK. 
So RFK is evidently going to be 

988
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:22,680
interviewed by that committee 
again. 

989
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,400
So he'll be on the hot seat 
again soon. 

990
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,480
But I'm looking at the overall 
report here, the 20 page report.

991
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,960
And to summarize very quickly, 
they're also looking at the root

992
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,400
causes of autism, although they 
don't mention vaccines 

993
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,960
explicitly with involving the 
root causes of autism. 

994
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,800
They're looking at more limiting
of fluoride in public water 

995
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,720
supplies. 
Vaccine injury, as I mentioned, 

996
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,680
is on the table. 
Air quality, another important 

997
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,040
one, microplastics and 
synthetics. 

998
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,320
Food, in other words, nutrition 
as medicine, not just eating 

999
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,040
better, but food being almost 
used in a medicinal sense. 

1000
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:09,600
Gut microbiome research where 
the microbiome, the floral 

1001
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,600
bacteria in your digestive 
system, which is so crucial to 

1002
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,720
your health, they're looking at 
that more closely. 

1003
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,800
So there's a lot of very 
positive things in here in terms

1004
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,840
of the topics, in terms of the 
goals. 

1005
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,160
The question is, is is this is a
very tall order. 

1006
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,600
This is, this is a very 
ambitious project. 

1007
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:32,680
Will RFK and his HHS, will they 
have blanks in the chamber or 

1008
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,280
are they going to fire real 
bullets? 

1009
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,480
And I'm just using a metaphor 
and really go after big pharma 

1010
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,160
control, really go after 
corporate control and make this 

1011
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,440
happen because there are a lot 
of good goals. 

1012
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,920
But in the time frame they have 
and considering the scope of 

1013
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,680
this thing, are they really 
going to be able to pull this 

1014
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,760
off? 
Of course, many of us would 

1015
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,880
support the idea of doing it, 
but can they? 

1016
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,560
And will they actually pull it 
off? 

1017
00:58:56,880 --> 00:59:00,320
Because it's a very tall order. 
So it, there's some good news 

1018
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,720
here, but it's, it's a big 
mountain to climb. 

1019
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,360
So I'll leave it at that for 
now. 

1020
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:06,560
Thank you, Mark. 
It's. 

1021
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,480
I'm going to say it's a shame 
that you even needed to qualify 

1022
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,440
that statement by pointing out 
that it was a metaphor, but 

1023
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:18,320
that's maybe an A realisation of
the free speech situation that 

1024
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,720
we're in these days. 
Look, let's finish with with 

1025
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,640
another with a light hearted 
story in a sense, in one sense 

1026
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,880
anyway. 
The Foreign Office put this 

1027
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,080
tweet out yesterday. 
It's it's quite, quite amusing. 

1028
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,840
It features a video which is 
supposed to be well, is it a 

1029
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,560
humorous depiction? 
Let's let's have a look at the 

1030
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:45,240
the video itself here scenario 
involving MI 6 delivering A 

1031
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,960
declassified message to the 
Foreign Office. 

1032
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,240
Now the the message well, 
spoilers, you'll see it in a 

1033
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:53,840
second. 
The message turns out to be an 

1034
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,920
announcement about MI 6 joining 
Instagram. 

1035
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,280
And we've got to we've got to 
wonder about that. 

1036
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:04,160
But MI 5 joined Instagram in 
2021 with the stated aim of 

1037
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:08,360
showing exclusive views of life 
inside MI 5 and to host 

1038
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,640
questions and answers with 
intelligence officers. 

1039
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:16,160
So the question is, has MI 6 
come in from the cold and joined

1040
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,240
the realms of reputation 
management? 

1041
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,920
Is that what's going on? 
Well, maybe so, but not only for

1042
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,000
that purpose. 
It's also apparently about 

1043
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,880
recruitment, particularly from 
abroad. 

1044
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,280
So they seem to be struggling 
with with recruitment at the 

1045
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:33,320
moment because they've also 
launched a YouTube channel 

1046
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:39,120
yesterday and there's several 
videos on that and they've these

1047
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:40,400
were all the same video by the 
way. 

1048
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,200
They're all posted in a 
different, in a bunch of 

1049
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:46,120
different languages. 
I thought we might just briefly 

1050
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:51,680
have a look at the the English 
version of this for. 

1051
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,520
Over 100 years. 
The. 

1052
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:58,680
Bedrock of MI 6's work has been 
face to face now. 

1053
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,880
We can make those. 
Connections even more securely 

1054
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:07,040
online using our upgraded dark 
web portal Silent Korea. 

1055
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,680
So if you have. 
Access to sensitive. 

1056
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,000
Information relating to global 
instability or hostile 

1057
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,200
intelligence activity. 
You can now contact MI 6 and 

1058
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,240
share this securely using Silent
Courier. 

1059
01:01:28,130 --> 01:01:30,610
So, you know, don't know what to
make of that. 

1060
01:01:30,610 --> 01:01:35,570
I mean, clearly they feel that 
they need to encourage Russian 

1061
01:01:35,650 --> 01:01:37,170
in particular. 
They're really looking for 

1062
01:01:37,170 --> 01:01:40,890
Russians to get involved in 
this, Russian whistleblowers, 

1063
01:01:41,290 --> 01:01:44,290
Russian spies to come and work 
for them. 

1064
01:01:44,290 --> 01:01:47,050
It's quite incredible. 
So it's a reverse WikiLeaks that

1065
01:01:47,050 --> 01:01:49,800
they've. 
Put on the dark web there. 

1066
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:54,520
I mean, it's just kind of weird.
This new public facing spook 

1067
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:58,560
agency posture is it's a bit 
strange. 

1068
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,160
It's a bit strange. 
Maybe we'll just get. 

1069
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:01,920
Used to it maybe? 
They'll be doing what do they 

1070
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:07,160
call those faceless videos AI 
generated content knockout some 

1071
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:11,000
of those videos with Palantir 
making that some some cool 

1072
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:16,880
little 3 minute, you know, 
sprightly they might do they say

1073
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,920
that silent. 
Courier aims to strengthen 

1074
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,160
national security by making 
recruitment easier. 

1075
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,920
They say that they're looking 
for potential agents in Russia 

1076
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:26,960
in particular, as well as other 
parts of the world. 

1077
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,080
And this was announced, by the 
way, this morning. 

1078
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,000
Because the outgoing C and you 
can decide what C means to 

1079
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,640
yourself. 
Is it at Istanbul today 

1080
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:39,160
apparently to launch this in a 
speech there? 

1081
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:40,360
So. 
So there we go. 

1082
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,880
It seems to me like the easiest,
most economic. 

1083
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,160
Route to national security. 
This is just me I'm of old 

1084
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:50,600
fashioned is a negotiated peace 
agreement with your so-called 

1085
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,800
adversaries. 
Isn't that the cheapest, most 

1086
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,960
direct and probably the most 
prosperous in the long term if 

1087
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,400
you think of the bilateral trade
potential? 

1088
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,040
Well, Patrick, correct me if I'm
wrong, but several. 100 years 

1089
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,960
ago, a few 100 years ago, 
because of a significant war, 

1090
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,680
the Treaty of Westphalia was 
signed by a whole bunch of 

1091
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,560
countries which founded the the 
basics that provided the basis 

1092
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,920
for the modern nation state. 
The first clause of that says 

1093
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,520
that you act in the interests of
the other and that is the best 

1094
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,080
way to maintain peace. 
We just, we need to start 

1095
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:27,200
talking with each other, stop 
shutting down speech, talk, 

1096
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,120
discuss, and maybe we come to 
some agreement on things. 

1097
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,840
It's quite amazing how this kind
of thing happens, the 

1098
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:38,760
indivisibility of security. 
That all countries need to be 

1099
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,280
secure in their borders and 
realms, not just the West. 

1100
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,040
So anyway, novel thought. 
Novel thought, Well look, we got

1101
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:47,240
to leave it there for today. 
Thank. 

1102
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,840
You, Mark. 
Thank you, Patrick, stay with us

1103
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,960
for some extra. 
We'll be back in a couple of 

1104
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,600
minutes for that. 
If you're UK column member, if 

1105
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,840
you're not a member, please 
consider joining so that you can

1106
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,880
join us for that. 
But otherwise, have a great 

1107
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:01,960
weekend. 
Don't forget Germ tonight, 7:00 

1108
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,880
PM, we'll see you Monday, 1:00 
PM as usual. 

1109
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,040
See you then. 
Bye bye.