1 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,280 How long has it been? Two years. 2 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,120 Less, I think a year and something. 3 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,960 You were still working for TNT? Yeah. 4 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:52,760 But that ended in I think 2024, early early 2024. 5 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,720 So it's been almost two years, yeah. 6 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,800 What's been happening? Oh you, you became a dad. 7 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:00,600 I. Became a dad? 8 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:05,080 Yes, I became a dad. And you, I think that's no, not 9 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,720 yet, but soon. No, but what else has been 10 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,640 happening? Oh, I know, not a lot. 11 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,160 I mean, like what's been happening. 12 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,320 I like on my personal, on personal scale, I don't know. 13 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,120 I've, I've been, I've been renovating my house, I'm 14 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:25,320 building a chicken coop, you know, so doing permaculture, 15 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,840 literally improving the infrastructure where I live 16 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,320 because there is no infrastructure. 17 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,120 Do you live in one of the most beautiful places that I've seen? 18 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,840 I mean, you are like you're on the edge of the jungle. 19 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,920 I'm yeah, literally in the jungle on top of a mountain with 20 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,000 views of like 50 kilometers. So it's, it's really beautiful. 21 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,560 But there is some infrastructure, as I said. 22 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,880 So we, we struggled with our off grid system. 23 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,800 I mean, it worked, but we didn't have to have sufficient 24 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,440 batteries, sufficient solar power, idle power. 25 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:07,600 So now I improve the system and so build a chicken coop now and 26 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,840 within the chicken coop, actually I built in another unit 27 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,840 just for my just for my batteries for my inverters. 28 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,680 So now I have approximately 60 kilowatt hours of batteries, 29 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:25,400 which is, which is more than enough to, you know, to make it 30 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,160 so I will never have any power outridges. 31 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,760 And it's been on my on my list because they're like digging in 32 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,880 cables. You can't imagine the amount of 33 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:39,400 work of digging in cables of like 50 or 100 meters at a 34 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,320 specific depth and installing solar panels and the whole 35 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,880 electricity system. It was like a huge lots of work. 36 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,440 Like literally, I was working on this for a year now and that's 37 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:55,720 yeah, that that kept me busy. Are you still driving that very 38 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,920 unfortunate VW? Yeah, yeah, I'm still driving 39 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:03,440 it, but keeps on breaking somehow because like, it's like 40 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:08,080 50 years old and yeah, but it gets up the mountain. 41 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,640 So yes, that was driving it. And, you know, the pedal that 42 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:16,560 you need to accelerate broke. So I was like, no fucking way it 43 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,560 broke. I don't know, just broke. 44 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,680 It's still working. But you know, you know, if you 45 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,120 have to dig deep, you know, with your foot. 46 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,960 But yeah, that's the next thing I have to repair. 47 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,080 Dude, I'm poking fun at you, but I'm sitting without a car. 48 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,280 My car's at the mechanic. Yeah, here we go. 49 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,400 I'm going to miss yourself. I've got to miss. 50 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,280 No, because it's a Mercedes. It's ridiculous. 51 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,200 I've got no idea what's going on under the hood. 52 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,520 I will say this, I'm never going to buy a Merc again. 53 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,320 Ever, ever, ever. Game over. 54 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:46,080 What? Happened to your? 55 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,320 What happened to your Ford Ranger? 56 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:49,880 I've never. Had a Ford Ranger. 57 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,560 I had a Ford but it wasn't a Ranger. 58 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,760 That was years ago. You told me to buy a Ford 59 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,080 Ranger. He's like, it's the best car 60 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,640 ever. You need to buy a Ford Ranger. 61 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,160 Raptor. Ford. 62 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,560 Raptor. Oh Raptor. 63 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,480 But isn't it Raptor Ranger isn't Ford Ranger Raptor. 64 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:08,440 It's a Ford Ranger Raptor. Ford Ranger Raptor. 65 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,720 What a That's a very clumsy title, but OK, If it's called 66 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,800 that, then that's what it is. But a Ford Raptor is an 67 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,160 absolutely. Beautiful yes, a Ford Ranger 68 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,280 Raptor so. The Raptor Ranger Raptor. 69 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,800 OK yes I still recommend it. I didn't have the a Ranger. 70 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:28,720 I made a big mistake by going down the Merck road. 71 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,920 I'll never do it again. It was a complete and utter 72 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,320 disaster. So I don't recommend Mercedes to 73 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,920 anybody ever. Going to sell the vehicle. 74 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,920 And maybe I'll go forward again. I don't know Chinese. 75 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,520 I'm very, very interested in Chinese vehicles now. 76 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,480 True. Now in Brazil many people have 77 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,320 Chinese vehicles. Byd they they now have a truck 78 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,760 electric truck. Yeah, so it's one of the fastest 79 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,240 in the world. Yeah, but cost of cost of 80 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,960 fortune still. Yeah, and GWM is very good too. 81 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,080 Yeah, yeah, it's also very interesting. 82 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,960 So I'm like, I'm like driving my Ford Maverick, which is 83 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,200 literally like a baby Ranger. I think it's like 10 centimeters 84 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,600 lower. I think that's the main 85 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,800 difference. But it has more horse powers. 86 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,960 So it's it's very strong. Gets up the mountain, you know, 87 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,960 and I'm having my, my folks like Beetle that I'm using here in 88 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,720 the jungle to the groceries because it's just fun to it's 89 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:25,520 just fun to drive. Beto is a great, great car. 90 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,800 What? What year is it 72? 91 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,520 Oh, that is one of the best years. 92 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,040 Yeah. It's got the big, it's got the 93 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,640 big lights at the back. Yes exactly these. 94 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:43,120 I'm so jealous I pimped it. I made it was a 1300 that put 95 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,600 other cylinders and now it's one 1600. 96 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,920 So it's super strong. It gets everywhere. 97 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,160 Even if it's raining muddy, it gets everywhere. 98 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,040 So it's I put on military car tires. 99 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,840 If you know them, it gets to the mud. 100 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,000 So yeah, it's it's, it's a great car. 101 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,040 So it's not electric. It's just like everything 102 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,400 mechanic and it gets everywhere. So I love, I love driving it. 103 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:12,040 It's, it's, you know, it's, it's literally like roller using a 104 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,400 roller coaster, sitting on a roller coaster because you feel 105 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,960 every stone that's underneath you. 106 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:23,520 It's it's wild but I I enjoy it. What I love about it also is 107 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,920 that it's still, it's still ICE, you know, internal combustion 108 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,520 that really annoys the, the, the, the greenies. 109 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,040 Yeah, yeah, they, they hate it. Lots of noise. 110 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,840 The first gear is like, you know, you know the sound, right, 111 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,960 Yes, yeah, it's yeah, it's great. 112 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,520 I mean like if the shit it's the fan and some point like all the 113 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,960 electric cars don't work anymore or you know, I can get around 114 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,560 and it's quite cheap to be fair. So I use it's one liter of gas 115 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:56,600 line for 12 kilometers in the jungle, right, not on the normal 116 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,560 Rd. in the jungle. So if I go up and downhill, so 117 00:11:59,560 --> 00:12:03,800 it's it doesn't use a lot. The Maverick uses like double 118 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:10,760 and of course it's bigger. Simon, this is the first time 119 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,120 that you are joining me on my UK column show. 120 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:19,600 So for those who who don't really know your your 121 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,200 background, let's quickly go back to 2019. 122 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:27,200 What were you doing? In 2019, I was just like working 123 00:12:27,560 --> 00:12:30,440 like everybody. Everybody who is now speaking 124 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,440 outdoor, being a voice of reason, has been working. 125 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,760 So in 2019, I've been I think I no. 126 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,120 No, no. My question is not, not, not. 127 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:41,800 What have you been doing since 2019? 128 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,520 What were you doing in 20? 19 You are a. 129 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:45,920 Scientist. Yeah, you are a. 130 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:51,120 Scientist, I'm I'm just thinking I, I think it had been postdoc. 131 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,920 I was starting my postdoc in 2019 as a scientist, right? 132 00:12:57,680 --> 00:13:00,680 So I was I was working on system dynamics, understanding complex 133 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:03,280 systems to eventually grow food on Mars. 134 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:10,920 So I was working on that on on system dynamics models, on 135 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,840 causal loop relationships regarding the metabolism, 136 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,480 regarding agriculture, advanced agriculture systems. 137 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:24,240 So yeah, also I was working on bioreactors, on gut microbiome. 138 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,240 So I cover many fields because it's like multidisciplinary, 139 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,200 right? If you want to want to grow food 140 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,320 somewhere else on another planet, you need to understand 141 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:37,680 many, many disciplines. So, yeah, So I was, I was just a 142 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:43,920 scientist doing, you know, doing my job like the 9 till 9 till 143 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:48,600 five, job 9 till 4 as a scientist, you know, was working 144 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,200 in the office for two or three days per week, was working at 145 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,200 home the rest. It's like what they do in the 146 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,640 Netherlands already for many years. 147 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,160 And it was just like, you know, living my life like everybody 148 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,640 was in 2019, like everybody was asleep, half asleep. 149 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:04,600 I was half asleep. To be fair. 150 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,800 It was just like living my life. I was, I was red pilled on many 151 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,720 topics, but I was like, OK, that's, that's, you know, part 152 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,160 of the story. But I was like, I was just 153 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:17,760 living my life. And then 2020 happened. 154 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,920 I was still living my life in 2020, to be fair. 155 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,720 So I got a Twitter account on February 2020 because they were 156 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,200 saying, oh, there's this Chinese virus. 157 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,520 And I was like, I was like, skeptic, right? 158 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:37,680 But when I want to get the news and I literally woke up on 20th 159 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,200 of March 2020 when they when they announced the global 160 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,120 pandemic and they said like everybody should stay inside 161 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,880 because at that time I was working on actively working on 162 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:51,040 publishing vitamin D papers. So I was like, OK, you know, 163 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:55,760 staying inside and viral infection, you know, or being 164 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,960 infected with a pathogen and not being exposed to sunlight. 165 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,760 This doesn't make any sense. So I was like the first thing I 166 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,720 was doing literally in April, I was like writing another vitamin 167 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:09,120 D paper on the importance of taking vitamin K2IN conjunction 168 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,880 with vitamin D. Just like to tell people like 169 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,640 this important. I was telling people, OK, you 170 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,040 don't have to worry about a lot if your vitamin D levels are up. 171 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:20,480 Don't be afraid of the sniffles. And unfortunately, people 172 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,120 shouldn't have read the paper at the paper. 173 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,200 And that's when it started like the the nasty attacks that I 174 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,800 never expected, right? So I never expected any, any 175 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,240 attacks from other scientists based on a, a triple period 176 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:33,160 paper. So. 177 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:38,520 But that happened eventually. I remember speaking to you. 178 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,000 I can't remember even how we got in contact with each other, but 179 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:47,320 I remember speaking to you. Oh, what does a 2022? 180 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:49,960 No earlier. I don't know. 181 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,640 Somewhere around there you started going through quite a 182 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,680 rough time with with the company you you're working for. 183 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,960 Remember you were travelling to Europe and back to Brazil. 184 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:01,720 And was it Norway? I can't even. 185 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:02,520 It was. Norway. 186 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,400 Yeah, it was the Research Institute, yes. 187 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,720 And so I lost my. Job in the Netherlands and then 188 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,200 I got a new job in Norway and they they also kicked me out. 189 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,800 It was beginning of 2022 when I got my ex account back. 190 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,000 That's right. And then you said something 191 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:20,320 online that they didn't like. Well, they didn't tell me what 192 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,360 they didn't like. I mean, like they gave a hint. 193 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,200 So I asked COVID people whether they're corrupt. 194 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,080 I asked them right? And X was like, hey, are you 195 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,000 corrupt? So I took their tweets and 196 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,000 showed the tweets to the general public was like, look, look at 197 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,480 this tweet. This is like, this doesn't make 198 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:34,360 sense. Are you corrupt? 199 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:39,200 So based on that, they obviously tired me. 200 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,040 It was just which is which is wild and the lawsuits until now 201 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,200 and I won the main lawsuit. So I won. 202 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,960 I won this part or like the main part is like 90% of this of the 203 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,600 lawsuit. There was another one that they 204 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,120 stole my document, which they did, but how do you how to 205 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,400 approve that they stole electronic documents? 206 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,440 So but the main part I won and they still made me pay all the 207 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,760 costs for giving a shitstorm to the company. 208 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:05,760 They say like, oh, you have so many followers. 209 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,520 This was like, you know, I'm proportional and you pay all the 210 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,520 costs. So they may be pay all the 211 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,359 lawyer costs. The other part was around $1000 212 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,040 or something. And I mean, like, imagine you 213 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,119 win a case and they said like, OK, we're going to punish you 214 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,319 anyways. Like doesn't make any sense. 215 00:17:20,319 --> 00:17:23,839 Now it's at the Supreme Court, but you know, it's a, it's a 216 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:26,280 recent institute which is like publicly funded. 217 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,720 So literally suit the government and the government who pays The 218 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:35,040 Who, who pays the judges, right? So it's like a difficult case. 219 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,320 And also my lawyer didn't help a lot. 220 00:17:37,360 --> 00:17:41,600 She, she missed 2 deadlines and it's like, oh, I missed the 221 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,000 deadline. So like what? 222 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,400 Because like the whole, you know, my wife's a lawyer. 223 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:50,360 So she, so she helped with the lawsuit and she was always 224 00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:52,320 sending her old update stuff and like, hey, don't forget the 225 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,280 deadline, forget that she got lost and she forgot the deadline 226 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:57,040 twice. So we think like, this is like 227 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,000 weird, This is super weird. Why would a lawyer, you know, 228 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,120 miss the deadline again, like in such an important case? 229 00:18:04,120 --> 00:18:06,760 Because I would have won that one for sure. 230 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,600 And anyways, yeah, it's, it's a very, very weird situation. 231 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,680 We are still trying to make sense of it. 232 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,640 Or you can win a lawsuit and still they make you pay such an 233 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,920 high amount of money. I mean, like they got the best. 234 00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:23,520 I mean, like they could just have paid me. 235 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,960 They just said like, oh, sorry, yeah, we, we, we just missed 236 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,640 you. And like you're take three 237 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,080 months of celery, etcetera. But they know they didn't, 238 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,080 instead of paying me like $10,000 or something, they 239 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,600 preferred paying more than $100,000 to lawyers in the case. 240 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:38,920 They, they wouldn't have any chance. 241 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,080 So it's a weird, it's like, and also Elon Musk promised to 242 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,160 support me. So, you know, because it was, he 243 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,920 made this, he made this tweet. So everybody got fired because 244 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,360 of being on X. I'm going, we're going to, we're 245 00:18:50,360 --> 00:18:53,240 going to support your lawsuit. So we were in contact with X, 246 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:54,160 right? A lot. 247 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:57,200 So with the lawyer from X with pronouns on her profile. 248 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,920 So in an e-mail footer. So like weird, she, her like, 249 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,200 and they, they said like, yeah, we're going to support you 250 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:04,640 totally. Your case is totally in. 251 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,640 And since then they ghosted me, like totally ghosted. 252 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:12,440 There is no reply, nowhere. So it's yeah, it's super weird. 253 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,480 It's super weird. And we're still trying to make 254 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,000 sense of it. And they're, I think it's 255 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,640 impossible to make sense of it, but it's, it's a weird 256 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,800 situation, right? But I mean, what can we do 257 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,480 eventually if, if the Supreme Court is going to say like, hey, 258 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,120 we're not going to accept your, you know, you missed a deadline 259 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:37,400 or you missed 2 deadlines. It's not, you know, we need to, 260 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,080 I need to sue my own lawyer and it sucks. 261 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,320 It's like, it's like, what can I do right when $1000 is a lot? 262 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,280 I don't, I didn't even earn this in a couple of years. 263 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,720 So for something I won, you know, in America, I would be a 264 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,360 multimillionaire for what happened to me multimillionaire. 265 00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:57,520 And but in socialist Norway it's a bit more difficult, obviously. 266 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,040 Can you remember some of the stuff that you were saying? 267 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:07,480 Beginning of 2022. Like like for example, if you 268 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:12,760 were to try and figure out what it was that got you fired, what 269 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,760 kind of content were you? Were you tweeting? 270 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,160 So beginning of 2022 I was self censoring myself a lot. 271 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:25,240 Literally I had no tweet that was like what I'm saying 272 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:29,120 nowadays. It was very self censored. 273 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:31,080 So the hardest, the harshest stuff. 274 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,880 I was asking David Fisman, if you know David Fisman, he's 275 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:39,040 like, he's like some some idiot from from Canada who was saying 276 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,200 like, we need, we need vaccine passports, we need forced 277 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,800 vaccination. And I was taking his tweets and 278 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,560 I was asking like, look, looking back at everything you said in 279 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:51,200 2021, are you corrupt? So this is the harshest thing I 280 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,520 said. And they even accused me of 281 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,200 accusing others of corruption. But the question is an 282 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,040 accusation. So I think it's that. 283 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,440 And my former boss, he was, he was calling me privately and he 284 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,720 was like, he's totally on my side. 285 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,880 But they get complaints, incoming complaints, literally 286 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,440 HR gets incoming complaints every day, hundreds. 287 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,840 So there must have been some campaign against me. 288 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,720 So, you know, when, when I got my my ex account back, it was 289 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,680 beginning of 2022. Many people were still like, oh, 290 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,360 this deadly pandemic. And now Elon Musk is letting was 291 00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:24,560 it was 2023. I'm sorry, was beginning of 292 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,640 2023, not 2022. Anyway, they were saying like, 293 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,280 OK, he's letting all these people back. 294 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:37,440 You know, how is this possible? And you know, and my, my, my 295 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,120 colleagues or other scientists and, and, and doctors and 296 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,440 activists who got back as well, they also faced a similar smear 297 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,880 campaign. And so I told him, like, look, I 298 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,640 have a significant account on, on XI think it was like 100,000 299 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,000 beginning of January. And people don't like what I 300 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,880 say, but it's like my private opinion. 301 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,600 And they're like, no, we support you 100%. 302 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,120 We support you 100%. And then at at some point he 303 00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:09,760 asked for my private calculations, which I was, which 304 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,480 I made from a company in the course of ten years. 305 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,520 OK, can you, can you send me this Excel file? 306 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:14,760 Won't understand what you're doing. 307 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,400 You're doing great stuff. And then he I was like, oh, of 308 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,760 course, because I wasn't, he was, he was always supporting me 309 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,440 privately was like, oh, they can do whatever they want. 310 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,000 We keep you. And I sent him a file on the 311 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,760 next morning and fired me. So he was stealing my file. 312 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,160 But I mean, like to prove it, to prove that he's still an 313 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,840 electronic file is very difficult. 314 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,440 So I didn't manage to do this. I mean, like I sent them 315 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,360 everything with a Dropbox changes that this document 316 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:39,840 exists before. But I mean, like the court 317 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,040 didn't understand it or they didn't want to understand it. 318 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,400 But anyway, that's what they did. 319 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,560 And then I made a tweet about this, right? 320 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,240 It was like, because they sent me an e-mail, they said like 321 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:55,560 they fired me for exceeding my, my write of free speech. 322 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,280 So how can you exceed your right of first? 323 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,080 I mean, I guess very, very difficult to exceed your right 324 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,440 of freedom of expression, right? But that's what they wrote. 325 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,960 That's the first letter. And then they, they kind of 326 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,280 fired this lawyer, I think, who wrote this letter because it was 327 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,920 like so ridiculous, because we, we were able to use this against 328 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,360 them, right? Because they later said like, 329 00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:18,040 no, he missed a meeting. He missed a meeting. 330 00:23:18,120 --> 00:23:20,560 So this was like their, their, their thing afterwards. 331 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,720 Like is there anything in a written form that he missed a 332 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:23,760 meeting? No, no, no, no, no. 333 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,080 We didn't inform him. I was like, which meeting? 334 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,640 They couldn't even tell me. So they tried to make up stuff. 335 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,680 It was like it was so surreal. This, this whole our procedure 336 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,760 was super surreal. They tried to first they, they 337 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,960 put the lawyers on there and they said like, oh, he cannot 338 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,440 sue us. He's living in Brazil now. 339 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,600 And it went up to Supreme Court and the Supreme were said, of 340 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,120 course they can sue you from Brazil. 341 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,240 So they tried everything. And then they said like, oh, we 342 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,920 don't even know where he lives. So how can we, if we win, how 343 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,080 can we execute it? And then I had to show the the 344 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,400 court that actually my boss visited me here in the jungle so 345 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,760 he knows where I live. And it's like they continued 346 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,120 doing this for two years until like my lawyer missed the 347 00:24:05,120 --> 00:24:07,200 deadlines. And like, this is so weird. 348 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,920 Why, why? How can you miss a deadline like 349 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,960 this, especially if you're working on this every single day 350 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,320 and reminding her of the deadline. 351 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,200 So it's it's like, I don't want to say sabotage, but it's like I 352 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,960 have a, my gut feeling says so, but I don't know. 353 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,920 I don't have proof because actually I think my lawyer is a 354 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,680 great person, right? We get along very well. 355 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,640 But this is weird or shit, a personal, I have no clue. 356 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,560 But this is super weird. Yeah. 357 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:38,120 Anyway, it's it just sees where we're at, right. 358 00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:41,360 And it doesn't matter if the topic is COVID, if the topic is 359 00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:44,040 Israel, you always have these powerful people on top who are 360 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,360 going to silence everybody who's saying who's who's like, you 361 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:50,840 know, who's telling their opinion. 362 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,320 So. But that is exactly true what 363 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:55,720 you're saying. You know, there's always 364 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,600 somebody high up and more powerful. 365 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:03,640 It's just a pity, though, that you a scientist, which by it, by 366 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,760 its very nature makes you a critical thinker, or at least it 367 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:13,160 should. And here you're being told not 368 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,120 to think critically and to accept the conventional or the 369 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:20,720 established thought. But that's, that's quite usual 370 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,280 in the field of science. So in the course of being a 371 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,120 master's student, PhD student, postdoc, twice postdoc, to be 372 00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:34,120 fair, it's like they're always try to control it. 373 00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:36,440 They'll always tell you what to say, what not to say. 374 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,240 So especially during my PhD and, and, and postdoc, it was climate 375 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,040 change. And I was, I was critical 376 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,160 towards climate change for I don't know how many years, 10 377 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:51,520 years, 20 years for always since I understood that CO2 doesn't 378 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:57,480 drive any of that. But I wasn't outspoken, right? 379 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,320 Because I mean, like I, I probably had some, some social 380 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,640 media. I had my Instagram with like 10 381 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:05,400 followers. I don't know. 382 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,040 So I wasn't a social media person and I wasn't too much 383 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,520 into public. So I, I hold public speeches on 384 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,520 my, on my, on my topic. And I was like the top scientist 385 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,920 on in my field, right? The top scientist, but still, I 386 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,120 mean, like when, when all my colleagues said you can't 387 00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:22,280 criticize climate change, I wouldn't go there, you know, and 388 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,240 be a rebel and, and, and talk to the 10 people I know. 389 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,280 It's like, oh, climate change is not real because I didn't have 390 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,160 any audience. So there was there was no point 391 00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:34,880 to to be rebellious. Of course, when I wrote 392 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,240 scientific papers, I put it in a different way. 393 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,240 So I formulated it and said like, oh, these, these climate 394 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,680 change models, you have to take it with a grain of salt, you 395 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,280 know, and, and I, I tried to put it in a way that my colleagues 396 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,640 would accept it and that you can actually read between the lines 397 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,760 and say like, OK, he doesn't really probably there's 398 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,480 likelihood that he doesn't believe that stuff. 399 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,280 So this is, this is what I did. But whenever I question things, 400 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,400 for example, I had a, my, my PG promoter, he was in the club of 401 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,520 Rome and you know, the club of Rome, you know, the sack, 402 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,560 they're, they're crazy. And he, we had this modeling 403 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:16,960 class and he was only modeling global warming or climate change 404 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,680 based on CO2. And I was asking questions and 405 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,760 he was telling me this sentence, this sentence, you shouldn't ask 406 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,120 questions. The, the science is settled. 407 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,760 And I heard the sentence again during COVID. 408 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,760 And I was like, this sentence was kept was, was in my head. 409 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,600 So it's like the, that the club of Rome was orchestrating the 410 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,400 sentence. I don't know. 411 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,840 He told me the science is settled and he got super mad at 412 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:44,440 me super mad for for asking questions and it was like plants 413 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,200 like CO2 and he's like getting super mad. 414 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,120 And I was like, wow, this is this is wild. 415 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,240 And then later, I mean there was at the University of Iceland. 416 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,640 Then like to the University of wagon in the Netherlands also 417 00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,720 wrote a paper on here we go. It was like modeling Namibia, 418 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:06,040 right, like some some high tech system in Namibia and also used 419 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,080 I had to use climate data. I use IPCC data and at the 420 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,920 university where I, where is my postdoc, there was this 421 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:19,560 professor and he was one of the IPCC panelists, one of one of 422 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:24,680 the leading scientists in IPCC. And he always told me you cannot 423 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,120 question climate change. It's really, it's a fact, blah, 424 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:30,960 blah, blah, blah, blah. So it's, you know, I was, I was 425 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,520 a bit intimidated. That was OK, cool. 426 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,480 I'm not, I'm not a scientist and climate change directly. 427 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,040 So I mean, like, they, they can, they can, they can say whatever 428 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,960 they want to, you know, I just ignore this topic. 429 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,600 But you know, whenever I open my mouth, it got like people got 430 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,320 mad and you get into trouble. So they're being a free thinker 431 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,640 is not really encouraged. So as a scientist seem to, you 432 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,640 need to be submissive, otherwise you don't make career, you don't 433 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,960 make it to the top. And the, the next issue is 434 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,360 literally, if you're, if you're a professor, you know, you, you 435 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,640 if you, if you're a professor at the university, you know, this 436 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,920 guy has been submitted. He has not been a critical 437 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,920 thinker. So literally everybody who makes 438 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,320 to the top and who's teaching your children is one of these 439 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,640 submitted submissive people. So this is how, how the, how the 440 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,800 whole scientific system as is set up. 441 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,480 So you don't learn how to think critically anymore. 442 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:27,240 I kind of came to the conclusion during COVID that the people who 443 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:33,200 you should put more trust in are not the scientists, are not the 444 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,400 ones who have skill sets within particular fields, it's the ones 445 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,920 who are outside of those fields. Yeah, it's, it's like, it's like 446 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:47,080 a cult, the cultists. So they're manipulated, let's 447 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,880 say not, let's not say manipulated. 448 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,440 There was a huge influence probably of other scientists on 449 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,760 them, you know, during their studies. 450 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,560 So they learned what they were told was the truth. 451 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,120 Just like in the Middle Ages, people were like, OK, the earth 452 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,480 is flat, you know, and there's this, there's this guy above and 453 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,240 then the hell below. And everybody believed it, 454 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,600 unless the. Earth is the Earth is round. 455 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,240 Exactly. And they would execute you for 456 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,520 that. So I think it's the same for 457 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,920 virology. And I think there are, there are 458 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,840 pathogens. I mean, like, but the question 459 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,600 is, you know, I told you my, my dog died of cinemosies and he 460 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,680 got the vaccine, by the way, because it's, it's, you know, 461 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,640 and we got it, got the vaccine. It's like. 462 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,280 I remember you messaged me a few weeks ago. 463 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,720 Yeah, and he died within five days. 464 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,160 He was super, super. He was super healthy. 465 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,400 And then at some point he just died within days. 466 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,280 And this is like, it's a virus. And my wife now is like, oh, we 467 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,720 need to vaccinate everything. It would have proved I was like, 468 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,520 he got the vaccine. Oh, he didn't get the second 469 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,040 dose. I'm like, come on, please. 470 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,080 No, no. And yeah, but the question is 471 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,640 still what's causing this, right? 472 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,760 So of course, she tested our other two dogs, and one also got 473 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,280 synomosis, at least antibodies, and didn't get sick, though. 474 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,200 And the other one didn't have anything. 475 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,160 She's like, look, look, he transmitted this. 476 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,120 And I'm like, OK, I don't believe in all this, but I mean, 477 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,600 there's something that's causing the disease and the root cause. 478 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,080 I think that's the important thing to discover, right? 479 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,400 I don't know what the root cause. 480 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,840 Maybe there are viruses, maybe you know, maybe they're not. 481 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,520 Maybe there are other pathogens that 'cause this phenomenon, but 482 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,400 it's not very clear. Even virologists cannot make all 483 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,200 of it. They cannot explain to you why, 484 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,040 for example, the transmission of viruses works in some cases and, 485 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,680 and in most of the cases it doesn't. 486 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,800 So there are studies like to transmit a flu and it just, it 487 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,520 just like, you know, insignificant. 488 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,160 So how does all of this work? And they cannot tell us. 489 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,000 They cannot give us a, an, a clear answer. 490 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,120 So to me, there are many questions and doesn't mean that 491 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,480 there's like a viruses don't exist, but I'm very cautious 492 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,200 here. I mean, we know that bacteria 493 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,120 exists and they're they're all very well studied and there is 494 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,680 very strong empirical evidence. But on viruses, is it maybe like 495 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,400 a waste product or is the cause as the effect? 496 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,280 And, and there are many questions that even viral just 497 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:17,200 cannot, cannot, cannot answer. So I'm very cautious here. 498 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,400 But still the fact that people are like, you know, people with 499 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,240 dogs, I die with the synomosis. There is something, you know, 500 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,920 and I would like to understand what it is. 501 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,960 If it's a virus, OK, fair enough. 502 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,200 But why can't we do anything against it? 503 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,120 It's the. Same with Povo. 504 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,720 Yeah, yeah, it's the same with Povo. 505 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,880 I mean, nobody really knows what causes it, but it always happens 506 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:45,400 to puppies and and it tends, it tends to be within unvaccinated 507 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,400 puppies. Now, I'm not in any way 508 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,040 suggesting anything positive about vaccines, and I'm not 509 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,840 suggesting that it's caused by viruses, but it does seem to 510 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,800 appear that way. No, I tried to find them. 511 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,720 I tried to find them to understand and there was, there 512 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,080 was actually no data available. There was no data available. 513 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,760 And so of course, what can I say? 514 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,600 I mean, like the next dog, we get it whenever, you know, maybe 515 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,360 we're going to get another Dalmatian. 516 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,720 My wife's going to let him double, triple, triple vaccine. 517 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,880 I don't care. Let's say it's a dog, right? 518 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,360 I mean, I love dogs, but it's not like my child, you know, so. 519 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,320 I've actually. I don't care much. 520 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,200 Yeah, So I've asked this pover question to number of no virus 521 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,200 folks like the Baileys and Tom Cowan and many others and not 522 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:35,080 one of them is able to answer. I've looked online, it is it's 523 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,040 it's impossible to find any daughter. 524 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,800 Yeah, we found in our dog. Of course we did. 525 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:45,280 We did all the, from all the tests and he had like he had a 526 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:50,160 dysbiosis, he had really awful bacteria in his gut. 527 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,960 So this could have been the reason or maybe maybe the root 528 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,360 'cause you know, maybe it's root cause that cause like, you know, 529 00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,040 cascade of other, other issues. And he didn't only have Symos, 530 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,320 he had like two or three diseases and he was like 1 year 531 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,120 old, super healthy. But I mean, like there must have 532 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,760 been a root cause. I think the same accounts for 533 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,360 us. So people can of course focus 534 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,480 like during COVID. It's like, oh, he died of COVID. 535 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,120 But if you check the the actual cause of death, it was hardly 536 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,600 ever COVID, right? Maybe 1% and at the sniffles. 537 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:23,600 And so most of most people die because of other, other root 538 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,400 causes. And I think, you know, medicine 539 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,960 has to go that way to see like a what is causing this? 540 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,960 You know, what are you eating? Are you exposed to mold? 541 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,800 How much, you know, how much do you sleep? 542 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,360 What's it, what are your cultural levels? 543 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,560 You know, are you, what do your hormones and hormones look like? 544 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,719 So there's, there are so many factors that actually determine 545 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,320 whether you're healthy or not. And then, and then these people 546 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,560 say like, oh, let's, let's look at some alleged virus. 547 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,600 You know, we didn't isolate yet. It's from China. 548 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,360 You know, there are so many variants, but like, this is this 549 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,360 is causing everything. And meanwhile, you know, I don't 550 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,920 know how many, how many millions or 10s of millions of people 551 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,880 have been driven to alcoholism because of because of their 552 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,120 pandemic. And that killed way more than 553 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,280 this alleged virus. And they never talk about that 554 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,560 in the Netherlands. This is like, oh, you should, 555 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,600 you should order food. You shouldn't, you shouldn't go 556 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,120 to the supermarket, you should order food. 557 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,440 And you know, and ordering food is literally pizza, burgers, 558 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,640 etcetera. Like I like I'm high in Omega 6 559 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,160 fatty acids that are inflammatory. 560 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,440 So that actually make you sick that that that actually are root 561 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,040 cause of many Western diseases. And that's what they told us 562 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,280 like don't go to the gym, don't work out, you know, don't go to 563 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:38,760 the sun, like eat, eat, eat junk food, right? 564 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,080 And you know, and get. A shot in the arm. 565 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,960 Sick and get a shot in the arm? Yes, in order to prevent a 566 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:50,480 disease. I've just remembered how we got 567 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,680 in contact. You were some random dude on the 568 00:35:54,680 --> 00:36:00,080 Internet calling out Drosten for his PCR protocol. 569 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,560 Remember that? That's how that's how we got in 570 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,880 contact. Yeah, I I was this random dude 571 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:05,920 with 10 followers. Yes. 572 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,440 Yeah, but you were the only person in the world who had this 573 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,080 particular information, or at least nobody else was 574 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,440 publicizing it. On the, not on the paper itself. 575 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,640 So there has been a whole consortium of like 10 scientists 576 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,400 who were looking into the, into the paper and, you know, people 577 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,400 who are, who are geneticists, etcetera. 578 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,000 But I'm not, you know, I looked into the period process because 579 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,360 I'm one of the few people who was an editor of a Springer 580 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,760 Nature journal and who knew the whole period process of a 581 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,480 scientific paper. And I was showing the whole 582 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,360 process because I had access to the back end. 583 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,400 So I was taking screenshots. This is how it how it works. 584 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,480 How many editors in the world could speak out against this 585 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,120 stuff? They're just like a handful. 586 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,120 Like they're not many, right? Maybe I know how many editors 587 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,800 existed on this platform and maybe 2 or 300, I don't know. 588 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,680 So it's very low number. So I spoke out and it was I was 589 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,360 analyzing at first, the analysis took like a week of deep 590 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,440 research. And then I was taking of course 591 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,120 screenshots from the back end explaining how pure process 592 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,800 works. And then I was able to show that 593 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,000 he committed fraud. And you know, my, my thread or 594 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,640 my, my, my post wasn't, wasn't attacking. 595 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,040 It was like very rational because it was, OK, I'm a 596 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,880 scientist. I need to be factual, right? 597 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,480 And I wasn't even accusing people of corruption, etcetera. 598 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,160 I was just like putting the information out there. 599 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,160 And yeah, I think this is this is how how we met. 600 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,560 This is How I Met most of the people, to be fair. 601 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,360 So just quickly give me the summary of what happened with 602 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,240 Justin. I can tell you what he did in 603 00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:41,800 general and the little part he was exposed, I was exposing. 604 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:48,000 So he knew about COVID way before the first case in China 605 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,360 appeared, which is weird. We have the evidence. 606 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,200 So he was working on the PCR test, like in creating the PCR 607 00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:00,320 test for COVID most likely since beginning of December 2019, 608 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,760 which is weird because the first Chinese case was when around the 609 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,320 20th of December. We know this because there is a 610 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:13,080 lab in Slovenia who published about the PCR test in the very 611 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,760 beginning of January, I think the first or second or third of 612 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,560 January. And they said that they received 613 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,560 the tests before Christmas and they have been extensively 614 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,840 before Christmas extensively testing it. 615 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:31,440 And I was like, how can you extensively test something if 616 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,720 you receive a test before the first case appeared? 617 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,360 So this was like super odd. It didn't make any sense and and 618 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,800 Drawston was on it, right. And then Drawston said in the 619 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,000 beginning of January, even like though masks don't work, you 620 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,880 cannot PCR test don't work, you cannot test people. 621 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,040 It doesn't, you know, it doesn't show if someone is infected or 622 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,080 not. And suddenly in, in in March, he 623 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,200 said the opposite for everything he said before. 624 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:02,520 And in February, he published this PCR protocol paper. 625 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,880 But he didn't he submit it to The Who and they published it 626 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,240 within like 24 hours. No, he submitted to his own 627 00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:14,880 journal. There is a, there is a journal, 628 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,640 it's called Your Servians and Christian Drosten is on its 629 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,760 editorial board. So he's admitted this paper to 630 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,360 his literally own journal and publish it within 24 hours, less 631 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,120 than 24 hours. OK, right, there we go. 632 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,360 So, and we asked for the preview reports, right? 633 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,600 So every previewer has to make a report. 634 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,320 It's anonymous. And it's like we can't do it 635 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:45,680 because it would violate, you know, the them being anonymous. 636 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,400 So it didn't make any sense. They didn't want to show any 637 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,960 report and they were hiding everything. 638 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:56,640 And they were and the co-author, Marlene Copeland's, the state 639 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,320 virologist from the Netherlands. So Drosten is the was the was 640 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,840 the state virologist from Germany and Marlene Copeland's 641 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,200 from the Netherlands, Right. She was on The Who committee 642 00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:11,800 that made this PCR. Protocol gold standard that one 643 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,360 day after this publication are published so they they rushed 644 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,960 the publication that there was up here reposes. 645 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:18,640 There was none. It's impossible. 646 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,600 They just like published it and like to make it gold standard 647 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,520 the next day and and Kristen Rustin's friend or fat land. 648 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,880 He probably made millions, 10s of millions with with this test 649 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,040 because he was the one producing it and it's his personal friend. 650 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,240 Super odd. I want to know how much money he 651 00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:41,840 received etcetera. But I mean, like, they're, 652 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,240 they're still like German Congress. 653 00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:47,440 I mean, there's, it's not Congress, but you know, they're, 654 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,720 they're still these in Germans cult into songs, all shows. 655 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,640 So they're, they're asking people about the pandemic, for 656 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,960 example, they invite him and, and people from the parliament. 657 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,080 They can, you know, they can, they can ask him like questions 658 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,040 about, about, about COVID and his role. 659 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,040 And he's, he's still defending stuff and he's still bending 660 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,360 reality. So he's lying the whole time. 661 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,840 He's for example, he said like, oh, we should close all the 662 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,120 schools. And then he's sitting there. 663 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,080 It's like, I never said that. I never said that. 664 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,680 But they're, they're like many audios videos. 665 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,080 Everything is available and he's sitting there. 666 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,120 No, I never said that. And he gets away with it and he 667 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,280 does it on every single topic. On every single topic. 668 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,200 He still attacks us for, for speaking out against, against 669 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,400 all, all what happened and nothing is happening to him. 670 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:38,240 He should be like in in any work in democracy, he would be in 671 00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:41,640 jail forever, literally forever, like, you know, lifelong. 672 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,840 But no, he's walking free. He's walking free. 673 00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:47,200 He is still getting invited to stuff. 674 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:52,920 He's still doing this his job. And he is the person who made 675 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:58,000 COVID available or like possible because without, without the PCR 676 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,240 test, right, that would never have been a pandemic. 677 00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:02,440 And he, it wasn't only the PCR test he was causing. 678 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,880 He was also the first doctor. And he's a doctor, right? 679 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,400 Like, I'm not, I'm not a medical doctor. 680 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,760 He's in a medical doctor. But he had a he had a patient 681 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:15,040 from China, the first patient ever, she was flying to Munich, 682 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:23,440 who was, who was kind of who was healthy and had the virus. 683 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,000 So he was showing, OK, look, there's there's this you can be 684 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:35,200 infected without being sick. So he was he was making putting 685 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,440 this out there as well. So imagine the same person. 686 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,160 What is the what are the odds that he was creating the piece 687 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,400 of artist before the pandemic happened? 688 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,920 And then that you said like, OK, you know, you can transmission 689 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:52,800 of a virus is possible of this virus as possible without being, 690 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,360 you know, without having any symptoms. 691 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,360 So that's, that's how he justified the tests, right? 692 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,400 So the whole world got tested because he said like, OK, you 693 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:09,680 can be infected and not knowing this and you have to use our PCR 694 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,160 test. So that's why the world got mass 695 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,080 tested. And we know it ran on the cycle 696 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:20,240 threshold of 45 or something, false positives of more than 697 00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:22,720 90%. So it was a it was a fake 698 00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:25,360 pandemic and he gets away with this and that's scary. 699 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,280 Even Carrie Malice, who invented PCR. 700 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,480 Warned was warning everybody about this. 701 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,080 Yeah, Yeah. You warned. 702 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,640 Josten was against it until January 20, 2020. 703 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,800 He was against it. It's like you cannot do this. 704 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,240 It's like it doesn't make any sense. 705 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,560 But. And then in like, you know, it 706 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,720 just shows the corruption. But I mean, like, is it a crime? 707 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,520 What? I mean, like that part. 708 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,320 I mean like that he says like, oh, I believe this until 709 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,480 January, but afterwards only more. 710 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,520 It's unfortunately not a crime. I mean, like it's should be it 711 00:43:55,520 --> 00:44:00,480 should be a crime because it was gaslighting the general public 712 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,800 into take into testing into vaccination. 713 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,160 And like, I think he's the root 'cause I have to say I think 714 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,120 otherwise you can sue me. I think he's root cause by ten 715 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:16,800 10s of millions of dead people. This man a German again. 716 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,080 Oh, wait, sorry, German again. The other one was Austrian. 717 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,440 But any anyways, you know, it's, it's again from from there. 718 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,840 It's scary. You know, there are so many 719 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,520 reasons why there was no pandemic. 720 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,360 PCR is one of them. Another is that there's just no 721 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:35,760 evidence of this novel disease. It's always. 722 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,560 Worse asymptomatic transmission would that before asymptomatic 723 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,760 transmission is another one. So combine all of them and you 724 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,280 have a fake pandemic and then you then you say then you run a 725 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,960 media campaign. So you have to, you have to 726 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,960 imagine, you know, they said like, oh, the virus is out here, 727 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,160 OK. Everybody was like, OK, all 728 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,320 right, all right. And we didn't see any excess 729 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,760 mortality. We saw excess mortality in 730 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,760 April, May 2020 after they're in this media campaign, after they, 731 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,360 you know, the fear campaign, you know what, what's fear causing 732 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,400 in all people? The quarter level gets up. 733 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,080 It's it becomes chronic and people, all people, all three 734 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,400 people die. So that's why we saw the spike 735 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,840 in in April and May 2020. But afterwards it went down. 736 00:45:13,240 --> 00:45:15,240 Of course, there's also seasonality, et cetera, but 737 00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:18,440 people were locked inside. So the seasonality didn't, I 738 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,360 think it didn't have a lot of impact here. 739 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,360 But still we just saw this one spike of of excess mortality. 740 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,000 And the second spike came after the vaccination campaign. 741 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,320 So after they injected everybody, but between the 742 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,720 initial spike that that killed people because of of the fear 743 00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:36,640 campaign and the vaccination campaign, there was no excess 744 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,120 mortality. If there were the dead epidemic, 745 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,680 you would see a constant excess mortality of like 10, twenty, 746 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,920 30%. But we saw a -1 worldwide. 747 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,240 So there wasn't that epidemic, right? 748 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,080 And just looking at the data shows this and but still this 749 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,960 man, everybody's talking about Fauci, but Christian Trosten is 750 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,920 the real villain here. I do remember there was an 751 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:06,440 attempt by about what, 20 or so scientists who who published 752 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:11,720 that that, well, they attempted to publish that counter review 753 00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:13,680 paper. Remember that the retraction 754 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:18,360 surveillance, yeah, the retraction and it was rejected. 755 00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:21,400 And almost all of them lost their careers. 756 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,160 It's, it's, it's, it's crazy. It's that crazy. 757 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,400 And, and you know, every point they were mentioning in their, 758 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,480 in their paper was correct. They couldn't contact, they 759 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,840 couldn't say like it's wrong. So they did. 760 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,120 Yeah, they did character assassination. 761 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,480 That's the same they do now with Israel. 762 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,360 So it's the same, the same playbook. 763 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,880 You know, if someone says something they don't like, they 764 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:52,440 just they just destroy your life And this haven't drunk COVID. 765 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,960 Yeah, no again. Yeah. 766 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,880 So you just mentioned Israel. So you've been speaking a bit 767 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,600 about Zionism lately. And at the beginning of our 768 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,440 conversation you said that you've had quite a few red pulls 769 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,120 over the last few years. What are some of those red 770 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,200 pulls? I don't know if I can say any of 771 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,400 this or do I get to jail? Do I get to jail in Europe? 772 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,600 I don't know. But I don't believe anything 773 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,520 anymore that's put like this. I, you know, I have to tell. 774 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:24,160 I've been extremely pro Jewish and extremely pro Israel thought 775 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,960 my whole life, right. I mean, I, my, my dad was 776 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,920 repelling me a bit. He was showing me documentaries 777 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:36,480 of, of how Israeli settlers were like, you know, destroying 778 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,880 whales of, of Palestinians. So I was like, OK, these are 779 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,560 just the settlers. The rest is OK. 780 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:48,280 This was my, my view until during my PhD, we, we had a, we 781 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,360 had, we had like a recess consortium. 782 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,760 And one of them was like the University of the Negev, like a, 783 00:47:53,760 --> 00:48:00,520 a Hebrew Israeli university. And, and the researchers of, of 784 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,920 that university, they were very religious. 785 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,280 So they were always wearing the little hat and they wouldn't eat 786 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:11,000 with us because we would be, we wouldn't be kosher and like 787 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,840 weird stuff. And then at some point they were 788 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:18,240 like justifying killing locals and justifying the settlements. 789 00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:19,840 And that's when I was like, what the fuck? 790 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,400 So we were all freaking out. They were like, just talk, just 791 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,840 just saying publicly, yeah, these are animals that need to 792 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,920 be killed and stuff like this. And we were like, whoa, this 793 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,720 when I when I was like kind of waking up. 794 00:48:29,720 --> 00:48:37,200 So maybe, you know, maybe my, my, my, my view on on Zionists 795 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,800 wasn't, wasn't that correct? And on Judaism as well, so I'm 796 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,600 not a friend of Judaism, but I mean, like, they're they're good 797 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,680 Jews out there, right? That they don't believe every 798 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,400 word in the Talmud. And I consider the Talmud a 799 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,960 disgusting book. But anyways, there's still good 800 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,400 people out there. And I don't want to, I don't 801 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,760 want to generalize people. But there's after, you know, 802 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:03,520 Hamas attack and Hamas attacked Israel, but but the whole story 803 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:08,880 is Israel attacked them first Nakba 1948 and also Israel 804 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,120 finance Hamas just to divide the Palestinians. 805 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,640 And the third fact is literally Israel knew about the attack 806 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,400 before because Egypt want them, but Israel let them attack so 807 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,200 they could eventually commit genocide. 808 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,560 And there was a there was also an IDF stand down for a few 809 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,480 hours. Just coincidentally, yeah. 810 00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,920 Just like coincidentally, yeah. It's just like during September 811 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:34,920 11th, there was the stand down. It's always coincidentally and. 812 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:40,560 And anyways, and you know, I don't like Islamic extremism. 813 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,400 I don't like Islamism. I think it's, I think it's 814 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,680 disgusting and it's it, it shouldn't have any place in the 815 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,480 Western world. I'm against, I'm, I'm in favor 816 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,520 of sending all extremists back home from Europe, send them back 817 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,120 to their own original countries. But Zionism is a totally 818 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,800 different level of evil in, in my opinion. 819 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,640 And you know, what I had expected is that, you know, 820 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,600 Jewish voices, like 50% of the Jewish voice would say like, 821 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,640 hey, or like many Jewish people would say like, OK, this attack 822 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,080 from us is disgusting, but look, like this is what we're doing to 823 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:17,320 them, you know, And, you know, killing 3040 thousand children 824 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,280 is wrong calling like there's this American congressman, Randy 825 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,680 Fine, who's who twice said that we should, that they should, 826 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,200 that the US or Israel should nuke the civilians. 827 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:34,440 And I don't like, you know, and hardly any Jew is literally 828 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,200 speaking out against this, you know, imagine, imagine the 829 00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:42,240 famous Muslim congressman. I know there, there are some in 830 00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:44,760 the US at least as saying like, hey, we should nuke all 831 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,920 Israelis. And they also like, oh, why 832 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,840 doesn't, why don't Muslims condemn this? 833 00:50:49,240 --> 00:50:52,520 You know, and I tell you, many Muslims would condemn this. 834 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:58,240 But how many Zionist and Jews condemned Randy Fine, maybe 1-2 835 00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:00,160 Dave Smith. And he's not, he's like, not 836 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,600 super Jewish, but it's, it's, it's just a few, it's a handful. 837 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,680 I get, I get PMS from Jewish people. 838 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,480 It's like, thank you for doing what you're doing right. 839 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,480 But they don't dare to say publicly. 840 00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:15,600 So but anyways, it's these these voices, these Jewish voices that 841 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:20,920 are available everywhere, right, that are in the White House that 842 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,120 are like Ben Shapiro, Mark Levine. 843 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,360 It's really super scary what they've been saying the last two 844 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,840 years. So they speak and I hear the 845 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,600 devil speak and what they're saying doesn't make any sense. 846 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,040 Just like full of hate and Jewish supremacy. 847 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,480 So I was in the beginning, I was quiet about this conflict 848 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:42,320 because I was like, OK, you have like, you know, Hamas that I 849 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,600 totally dislike. And then you have the Zionist 850 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:49,560 that is like, let them, do you know, let them fight, right? 851 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,600 Keep the civilian out, civilians out of it, you know, get the 852 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,400 hostages and prisoners of wars out. 853 00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,200 By the way, you know, the Israelis call someone hostage 854 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,720 who has been kidnapped from a tank. 855 00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:07,120 You know, it's the, they're the only country in the world that 856 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,040 manages to call prisoners of war. 857 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,640 If you kidnap a soldier from a tank, right, an active soldier 858 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,040 from a tank, it's a prisoner of war. 859 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,240 And they call them hostages. And you know, and meanwhile 860 00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:22,720 there are still 1500 Palestinian hostages and the Knesset, I 861 00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:25,960 think yesterday was trying to pass a law to execute all of 862 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,640 them. Imagine like this, the other way 863 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,680 around. They would nuke that place. 864 00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:35,200 But why can Zionists do whatever they want and they get away with 865 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,480 this? And if you are critical to anti 866 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:41,720 Zionism and you're anti Zionist, they call you a Jew hater. 867 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,320 I'm like, OK, if this makes me a Jew hater, I'm a, I'm a proud 868 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,280 Jew hater, right? Because I'm like, if I'm against 869 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,960 injustice and this makes me a Jew hater or this gives me the 870 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:53,520 label, I, I, I proudly wear the label that makes it anti Semite. 871 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,760 And it makes you a person, a persona non grata. 872 00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,760 So that's what I am. So I mean, like you invite them 873 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,640 to your show. Nobody else does, believe me. 874 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,600 So I have another one today. But that's like with a, with a 875 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,280 Muslim person. So they they they like to talk 876 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:12,840 to me to they say irrational, irrational voice who, who sees 877 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,440 the problem on both sides, which I do. 878 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,920 But of course I I see the problem on one side much more 879 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,920 right now because I woke up. But anyways, I'm, I'm not, I'm 880 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,680 not like pro the other side, right? 881 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,920 I'm against everything. It's like literally I'm hating 882 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:30,120 everything but nobody else would would like talk to me. 883 00:53:31,720 --> 00:53:34,920 I you know, it's because, you know, people are it's just like 884 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,440 with American football or soccer or like the real football, by 885 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,520 the way, don't call it soccer. You know, people choose teams 886 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,600 when you watch a match, you know, people are like, oh, there 887 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,800 is like Chelsea on versus Arsenal and both both can suck 888 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:47,720 my Dick. I don't care. 889 00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:50,560 You know, there's a big owner behind it and that owner is like 890 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,960 literally, you know, using using the sports in order to get you 891 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,560 know, but anyways, people are cheering. 892 00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,360 They're like, oh, I'm for Arsenal, I'm for Chelsea. 893 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,400 And you could ask a whole room of what are people? 894 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,880 And maybe one or two say like, I don't care. 895 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:03,720 And it's the same here as as well. 896 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,880 It's like they expect you to take sides, but I don't take 897 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,720 sides, right? I mean, like, I prefer a side 898 00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:12,120 over the other side after what I observed, right? 899 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,800 But in the beginning of the conflict, I was like, oh, I 900 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,040 don't care. Then I see what's happening and 901 00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,240 like, OK, wow, this one side is really fucked up. 902 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:19,800 And then I say, this is really fucked up. 903 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,360 And I see like, look, all the politicians and especially in 904 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,680 the United States and also in Europe, look, look what they're 905 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,040 saying. It's disgusting. 906 00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:30,000 They're justifying, they're justifying genocides like 907 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,720 nothing's happening there. Israel is the most immoral army 908 00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:36,160 in the world. You know, and there are videos 909 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:37,880 out there of them doing the worst things. 910 00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,960 And then they actually accuse Palestinians. 911 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,040 Oh, you've, you've like beheaded 12 babies. 912 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,440 You put them into ovens. There's no single evidence it it 913 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,920 was a lie. So, you know, if a, if a war 914 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,240 starts and is based on many lies handball directive, we can start 915 00:54:53,240 --> 00:54:55,000 there. We can, we can, we can start 916 00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,960 with like the, that the Israeli army was like holding back. 917 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:04,080 And you know, we can continue with, with these beheaded babies 918 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,280 and the burn babies and with the fake pictures of all the blood 919 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,200 in the keyboard scene that was that was paint. 920 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,520 So it was all mainly based on lies. 921 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:17,200 So why would I trust these people who tend to lie? 922 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:18,880 I mean, like, it's not just like they lie there. 923 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,000 They're lying throughout the last two or three years. 924 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,840 And that has been a stereotype in Europe in the last hundreds 925 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,160 of years. And I, you know, I was like, 926 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:31,640 what when I was a, you know, a youngster, I was like, why do 927 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,760 they do this to these people? Why, why did Martin Luther, you 928 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,920 know, write this book about the Jews and the lies? 929 00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:40,840 It's like, you know, and then I'm watching what's happening 930 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,840 right now. It just like lies, lies, lies. 931 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,320 And then I'm like, OK, maybe they, I mean, like I read the 932 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:47,400 book. I was going through the book. 933 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:48,960 It was it's in German, right? I can understand. 934 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,240 I would like, OK, sometimes it's like he was, he was a bit 935 00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:55,040 hardcore at one point, right? But I mean, like, anyways, 936 00:55:55,040 --> 00:56:00,080 there's still a the core is still there's just some truth in 937 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,360 what he was saying. So the question is, why are they 938 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,720 lying about this? Why can't they be honest about 939 00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:08,000 this, right? I mean, like they're obviously 940 00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,480 the only democracy in the Middle East. 941 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:11,640 They're the most moral army. They're God's chosen people. 942 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:17,640 Why did they lie all the time? So this opened my eyes a bit 943 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,000 and, you know, and then I see yesterday Ben Shapiro talking or 944 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,680 like, what the fuck, you know, you freak, you freak out. 945 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,640 Yeah, he's all spat now with Tucker. 946 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:31,040 Yeah, they they all are. Laura Loomer, Mark Levine, Ben 947 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,720 Shapiro, all of them. All of them are anti Tucker. 948 00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:36,880 All of them. There's the whole American. 949 00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,720 Establishment now is going off to Tucker. 950 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,560 The Zionist and Jewish establishment. 951 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,800 Christians on yes, but I mean it, it, it drives. 952 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,080 American politics, yeah, of course it does, because APEC is 953 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,640 controlling American politics. Literally everybody in Congress, 954 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,920 2/3 of punkers are, are are Israel controlled, right. 955 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,400 So of course they get, they get, they get, they get wild. 956 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:05,480 But like that all these, you know, these Ben Shapiros, these 957 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,680 these Barsal presidents, you know, there's so many players, 958 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:14,400 there's so many powerful Zionist Jews in America and they all go 959 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,200 after Tucker. And what did what did you do? 960 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,760 He interviewed Nick Queens. I don't like Nick Queens at all. 961 00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:24,080 I think what he is saying is sometimes close to disgusting. 962 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,280 He is. He says like we need a Christian 963 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:29,680 theocratry in in in the United States. 964 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,640 He says disgusting things about women. 965 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,000 And I mean, like, I'm an anti, I'm an anti feminist. 966 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,440 But like what he's saying is like a different level, right? 967 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,840 And I wasn't a group chat with him. 968 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,040 I've never, I've never interacted with such a 969 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,800 narcissist person. So we were, we were discussing 970 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,200 stuff and he was making arguments. 971 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,640 I was making arguments others working with. 972 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,560 He was like, who are you even? You're like an unimportant 973 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,200 person. Shut up stuff like this. 974 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,040 And it was like, wow, this is, this is wild. 975 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,200 I was like, you know what I did during COVID exposed. 976 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,440 He's like, I don't fucking care. You're a nobody. 977 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,440 I'm like, wow, this guy has problems, right? 978 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,960 So, yeah. And when I asked him about his 979 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,840 relationship to Ellie Alexander, who's a groomer, who is a 980 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,000 pedophile, and they're good friends, right? 981 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:18,480 Yeah. He blocked me. 982 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:19,800 But OK, he can do whatever he want. 983 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,720 And I think that Tucker Carlson interviewed him as good. 984 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,840 I mean, like, you should, you should talk to everybody. 985 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,080 You should even talk to Nick Fuentes. 986 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,280 It's fine, you know? And I totally defend the right 987 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:36,000 of Nick Fuentes to to to not be cancelled to to to freaks. 988 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,280 Bailey now speak freely. So he should be allowed to do 989 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,160 so, right? I mean, like we all have this 990 00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,200 right of freedom of expression. He is as well. 991 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,240 And he shouldn't be cancelled for having different opinion. 992 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,400 It's not my opinion, but I totally support his right of 993 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,200 having an opinion. And Tucker calls and talk to 994 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,080 him. And yeah, he should have been 995 00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,400 more more critical now and then. But I mean, like, it's it's 996 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,560 Tucker can also make his own decisions, how critical he is 997 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,920 and what he's what he's asking or not, right? 998 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,520 I mean, like, if you look at CNN and other media, they're way 999 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,960 more propaganda than than a, than an interview of Tucker 1000 00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,680 Carlson with Nick friends of Vladimir Putin or, or I know 1001 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,680 who. So they're not cancelling, 1002 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:15,920 trying to cancel. Let me talk to you. 1003 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:17,720 Because he talked to someone they don't like. 1004 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:19,840 That's that's, that's super insane. 1005 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,320 And they're all doing this together. 1006 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,680 They're all doing this together. It's not like there's one of 1007 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:30,400 these voices of these of these Jewish Zionist voices, like, 1008 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,080 hey, guys, calm down, calm down a bit. 1009 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,400 No, they're all in it, all of them. 1010 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,240 I don't see any exception. So that's the crazy thing. 1011 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:45,440 So I'm wondering why, I mean, maybe you have an idea why, why 1012 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:50,160 is it is it a cult is like, you know, Scientology, if you if you 1013 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:51,520 speak out against it, you're out. 1014 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,800 What is it? I, I I have no answer to this. 1015 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,760 Yeah, it's, it's something that I also wonder it's that. 1016 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:05,600 It's kind of like the climate change thing in many ways. 1017 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:10,080 People buy into it. It's indoctrination, propaganda. 1018 01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,200 But I think there's something deeper with the whole Zionist 1019 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,560 thing. I think it it, it comes down to 1020 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:22,640 basically a Sunday school belief in the chosen people, the chosen 1021 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,840 land. That's why you have like 70 1022 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:30,760 million Americans, you know, who blindly stand with Israel. 1023 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,600 I mean, I've been asking this question for about a year and a 1024 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:40,760 half now to various Christians who, you know, state that they 1025 01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,960 stand with Israel. And so my question is along the 1026 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,840 lines of, well, are you a Jew? No. 1027 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,440 Are you an Israeli citizen? No. 1028 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,040 OK, So then why do you stand with Israel? 1029 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,520 And they don't want to say it's because they were taught that 1030 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,280 it's the chosen people or chosen land. 1031 01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,720 They don't want to say it. So they make all sorts of other 1032 01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:05,000 excuses or they just get angry. And I think it comes down to 1033 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,680 that sort of deep rooted indoctrination. 1034 01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,000 That's what I think. But I mean, like, if you're a 1035 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,280 Christian, right? I'm an agnostic Christian. 1036 01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,600 So it's, it's weird actually. I live by Christian values. 1037 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,080 So you so basically you're not sure if you're a Christian? 1038 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:26,920 People attack me with this, but I I live by Christian values and 1039 01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:32,560 I think there's God, but I don't think that the Bible is the word 1040 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,240 of God. So many people hate me for that, 1041 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:39,120 But I mean, like there's, I mean like the, the, the, the Bunny 1042 01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,680 isn't a ruminant, right? I mean, like there's so many 1043 01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,520 things in the Bible that are contradictory to each other. 1044 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,600 So if it was the word of God would be more consistent. 1045 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:49,840 So that's just my private opinion, but I get along with 1046 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,880 Christians very well. I love Christian values and all 1047 01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,720 of this. So I pretty much aligned with 1048 01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,880 Christianity. I mean, I'm, I'm a Roman 1049 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,120 Catholic, don't like the Pope, but I mean, like, you know, I'm, 1050 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:02,760 I'm a critical, I'm a critical thinker. 1051 01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,800 So it's, it's very difficult to be a super critical thinker and 1052 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,880 go 100% in line and say, like, I believe everything this book 1053 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,880 says. Anyways, what I didn't 1054 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:16,200 understand is why Christian Zionists can even believe that 1055 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:20,320 they're got chosen people, which in country would mean that 1056 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,200 Christians are not got chosen people. 1057 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,280 So you would actually kind of define yourself as a subhuman, 1058 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,240 right, because there are like the God chosen people and then 1059 01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:34,440 we are below this. So this is like, you know, this 1060 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,480 is something that doesn't make any sense to me and that's why I 1061 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:39,680 oppose that. They even call them that means 1062 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,160 they call themselves God chosen people. 1063 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:42,640 Ben Shapiro said we are God chosen people. 1064 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,840 Mark Levine says it. Randy finds that they all say 1065 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:46,240 it. It's like we are God chosen 1066 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:46,960 people. Who are you? 1067 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,440 It's going to be nonsense. It's totally nonsense. 1068 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,680 Why should God chose these people? 1069 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,120 These right that that they're the only religion that are 1070 01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:01,360 trying to trick God every single day where there is. 1071 01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,360 You know, it's not even biblical, dude. 1072 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,600 I mean, if you were to, if you were to try and come at this 1073 01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:09,640 from a biblical argument, there is no supporting biblical 1074 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,720 argument either, Scofield. Bible. 1075 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,040 They were like, yeah, but that's a different discussion. 1076 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,240 But like, I mean, what they're doing is they're put on fishing 1077 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,880 rods, fishing lines around Manhattan and say this is an 1078 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,640 Azov. It's a imaginary wall so we can 1079 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,720 carry stuff during Shabbat. Like they're trying to trick God 1080 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,440 the whole time. It's it's like, I don't know, 1081 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,760 but this would get this. This would get me into anti 1082 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,360 Judaism. And I don't want to go there 1083 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,760 because I mean, like I think believe people should believe 1084 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,000 whatever they want to believe. If they want to believe this, go 1085 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,400 ahead, right. But don't push it on us. 1086 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,680 Don't say like we've got chosen people, you're or less you're 1087 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,120 nothing. Don't treat us like this. 1088 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:47,520 You know, don't treat others like this. 1089 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,880 Don't treat Palestinian children, women like this, you 1090 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:54,560 know, don't justify atrocities. And I just want, you know, I 1091 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,360 just want humanity to win just like during COVID, just like be 1092 01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,520 be human, be good to each other. You know, you can, you can 1093 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,280 criticize Hamas just like you criticize Zionists. 1094 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:05,640 And I think you should, you should by the way, if there is 1095 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,600 like, if there's Hamas, like killing people from being 1096 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,040 homosexual is like, you know, shut the fuck up. 1097 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:12,600 You know, they have no right to live as well. 1098 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,120 But I mean, like, we are, we are talking here about like 1099 01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,200 literally hundreds of thousands of civilians that have been 1100 01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,040 injured and killed and they're still justifying this. 1101 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:28,440 And I think people who justify these crimes are evil, are 1102 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:34,600 totally evil and should be, should be, you know, we should 1103 01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,320 be able to call them out without being called labels and without 1104 01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:43,560 being getting cancelled. Just quickly you you aren't 1105 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,160 working as a scientist anymore, you know? 1106 01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:50,840 How nobody would ever take me There's there is no chance 1107 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:54,160 nobody wants to take in an anti-Semitic anti vexer. 1108 01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:55,560 I mean, that's what they call me, right? 1109 01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,320 So no institution would ever take me. 1110 01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,720 So yeah, I can't I can't work as a science anymore. 1111 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,640 What I would love to, but I'm not I'm now doing my own 1112 01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,680 observations in the world, which is like a much better science. 1113 01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,280 So I run my own experiments here with tomatoes. 1114 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,960 I, you know, observe things and I draw my private conclusions. 1115 01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:16,840 And this is like much more honest than working for an 1116 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,120 institution that is actually telling you what you have to 1117 01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:20,280 believe and what you have to write. 1118 01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:28,200 But I mean, you are doing many things that we have been 1119 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,440 suggesting people do over the last few years. 1120 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:35,320 Yeah, be be self-sufficient. Be self-sufficient. 1121 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,240 Decouple yourself from the government, because the 1122 01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,120 government is no good, right? I'm not just talking about 1123 01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:44,000 beetles. I'm talking about yeah, but I 1124 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:45,480 have to I have to beat already for 10 years. 1125 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:55,720 So this way before No, I'm literally trying to yeah, to to 1126 01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,920 be be more independent because this is just the start. 1127 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:05,640 I mean, like wait until the, the digital IDs and the government 1128 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,320 backed digital currencies are rolling out. 1129 01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,160 That's when the real shit starts, when they can just shut 1130 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,560 you down or shut your countdown or whatever. 1131 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,280 It's I mean, it's already starting, right? 1132 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,440 And wait until they control all the social media. 1133 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,400 I mean, like now TikTok, I'm a TikTok. 1134 01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,160 I mean, like, I'm not on TikTok, but TikTok was quite free. 1135 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,760 People were allowed to say stuff against Israel and now they're 1136 01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,280 it's owned by American Jews because Trump put too much 1137 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,520 pressure on them And they like they're like, they're like 1138 01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:37,600 centering all criticism against Israel them again, you know, the 1139 01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:43,560 and X is kind of free still, but still, you know, I get all the 1140 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,520 propaganda in my timeline. So it's also kind of controlled 1141 01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,440 by or at least not totally controlled, but there's still 1142 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,200 some influence. And all the other social media. 1143 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,560 We all know who's who's owning it. 1144 01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:57,840 And let's not talk about the mainstream media. 1145 01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:02,880 So it's it's an infowar. It's literally Jewish Zionists 1146 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,200 and also Christian Zionists against, against the truth, 1147 01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,160 against US, against for speech, against everything we stand for. 1148 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,160 And let's see where it's where it's going. 1149 01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,440 But I mean, like what I, what I, I've quite hope in this. 1150 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,400 Unfortunately, I need to have hope on the leftist as well, 1151 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,760 because the leftist are opposing this very rigidly. 1152 01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:27,840 And yeah, I hate to say this, but people are at least people 1153 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,000 are waking up. You know, once you once you woke 1154 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,600 up to reality, it's very hard to go back asleep and more and more 1155 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,120 people awaken. I've, I've never seen an 1156 01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,040 awakening like like this happening. 1157 01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,480 I think maybe that never happened in history during 1158 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,840 COVID, many people woke up and those who didn't wake up during 1159 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:44,880 COVID, no wake up with Israel, like many leftist wake up. 1160 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:48,000 So yet he had a great great awakening on the right now on 1161 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,680 the left. And this could be in our favor 1162 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,480 or in favor of humanity, because I didn't want to be a front man 1163 01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,440 politician, you know, because I think they're all corrupt. 1164 01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:03,560 So I just want, I just want people to, to be free, right? 1165 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,440 And that's, that's actually the war. 1166 01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,520 It's, it's us. It's, it's either freedom or 1167 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,760 slavery. It's literally what George all 1168 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:13,440 wrote 1984 was like with different topics. 1169 01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:15,880 And that's what we're up against. 1170 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:18,760 Simon, how can my audience follow you? 1171 01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,640 If they want to follow me, they just go on Axe and they put my 1172 01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,920 name. There's, I mean, like there are 1173 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,479 many fake accounts, but I mean, if I put my name in the into the 1174 01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:34,680 search engine there at the top, you just see one with a yellow 1175 01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,920 dot next to it's me. And yeah, that's how they can 1176 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:39,240 follow me. And I should, I should get more 1177 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:43,040 active on on, on Telegram 2 telegrams just like my surname, 1178 01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:46,279 but that's about it. I don't have too much time for, 1179 01:08:46,279 --> 01:08:48,319 for all the social media. I try to be active. 1180 01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,560 I thought the day, but I mean, like I'm working outside a lot. 1181 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:55,319 I'm trying to, you know, be 100% self-sufficient. 1182 01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:59,319 And yeah, that's that's taking like 10 hours of my day. 1183 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:01,200 And the rest, I'm trying to be bit active. 1184 01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,160 Yeah, but that's how they can follow me. 1185 01:09:04,279 --> 01:09:05,479 Oh, how can they follow you, Jerome? 1186 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,479 That's even more important. You need more followers. 1187 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:16,040 They can go to your social media and you can direct them to me. 1188 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:18,600 I'll do that. That's a good one. 1189 01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,399 Simon got egg. As always my friend, thank you 1190 01:09:22,399 --> 01:09:24,319 for joining me in the Drangers. Thank you.