1 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,880 None. All right, it has been a few 2 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,520 years. Shannon Joy, thank you for 3 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,840 joining me in the trenches. I'm so glad to be here and 4 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,240 pardon my voice a little bit under the weather, but I'm going 5 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,440 to power through. I'm so glad to be here with you. 6 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,120 Well, the feelings mutual, you know when you're not last 7 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,120 chatted. It was a few years ago, we were 8 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,720 in the thick of the sort of COVID psyop. 9 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,400 So much has changed since then, and yet also so much hasn't 10 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,480 changed. Absolutely. 11 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,040 I mean, here in the United States of America, we had an 12 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:18,800 election and installed a president who half of the 13 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,240 country, including the medical freedom movement, thought was 14 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:30,360 going to be the solution to the tyranny of 2021 through 2024 15 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,720 under the Biden administration. The forced vaccination or 16 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,480 coerced vaccination, the horrifying lockdown policies, 17 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:44,520 the kill protocols, everything that came out of 2020. 18 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,160 And it's interesting that in America we elected essentially 19 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,800 the guy who locked us down in the 1st place thinking that he 20 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,800 was going to come in and and change things, especially with 21 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,800 the installation of Bobby Kennedy Junior at HHS. 22 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,160 Everyone thought this was going to be a revolution. 23 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,200 This was going to be, we were going to get the truth about the 24 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,520 lies surrounding the pandemic. We were going to get the truth 25 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,880 about the vaccines. We were going to take the mRNA 26 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,840 shots off the market. We were going to hold 27 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,760 accountable the people who deployed the kill protocols and 28 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:27,960 the anti human just authoritarianism that we saw and 29 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:32,880 interestingly enough, Jeremy, like nothing has happened like 30 00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:35,520 there and we have. Did you expect? 31 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,320 Something. But did you expect something to 32 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,000 happen? Well, I didn't like you, I. 33 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:39,440 Don't. Know. 34 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,840 Yeah, no, I never did. And you know, This is why I'm 35 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,440 somewhat of a pariah in America. I mean, I've built a a very 36 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,640 large platform. I'm independent, so I'm not left 37 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:55,040 or right. I think that both political 38 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:59,360 parties are horrible. Yeah, horrifyingly corrupt. 39 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,360 But I really believe it. A lot of people will say that 40 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,320 word. You'll see people uniparty, 41 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:10,040 uniparty, and they'll say that they believe that the two 42 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:19,120 parties are working together in tandem to push a a anti liberty 43 00:03:19,640 --> 00:03:24,360 and technocratic agenda. But you know, without fail, 44 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,560 every four years, every two years, when there is an 45 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,800 election, six months before the election and then three months 46 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,200 before the election, they all line up into their columns. 47 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,760 And then they all begin to repeat the old tropes of the 48 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:43,680 partisan divide and they shuffle into the voting booth and they 49 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,760 pull their levers. It's a pageant here in the US 50 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:52,040 for one side or the other. And so we continue to be mired 51 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,960 in this process. Even though our rhetoric as a 52 00:03:55,960 --> 00:04:00,360 culture has changed a bit. We are still kind of in this 53 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,880 lock grip of the two party political paradigm that we 54 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,840 cannot get out. It's a death spiral. 55 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:12,160 Because I believe, Jeremy, that absolutely the parties work 56 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:19,240 together, they work in tandem and we we have more of actors in 57 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,680 our country than anything else. So I mean I. 58 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,800 You're sorry, but your president literally is he's a, he's a, a 59 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:33,400 TV show host. Oh, Jeremy, I I believe that 60 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,320 what we're witnessing is literally reality TV, loosely 61 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:44,320 scripted reality TV. And Donald Trump is not. 62 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,800 He doesn't have power and he's a puppet actor. 63 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:53,040 He's installed. He's you know, and, and so 64 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,120 nothing, I mean the the insanity of what we're seeing in the USI 65 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,280 mean we are devolving into a Banana Republic. 66 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:06,160 Our government has been shut down for a month and I don't 67 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:11,040 know that they'll ever really open it again because all of the 68 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,280 larger mechanisms. A shutdown doesn't really mean a 69 00:05:13,280 --> 00:05:18,960 shutdown in the US. It means certain non essential 70 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,240 massive budgets, but non essential agencies are, are not 71 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,800 being funded because Congress cannot enact appropriations. 72 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,800 So the money to pay for the things among other things, you 73 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,920 know, involved in a shutdown, certain key elements of the 74 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,720 government are never shut down. So all of those are still in 75 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,360 place. They're still working. 76 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,320 You know, 75%, I don't know if my percentages are are on and 77 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,560 off 75% of the government is still functioning. 78 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,920 But now they have this nice little slush fund on the side 79 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,720 right the the end. The perfect example, Donald 80 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,760 Trump just got a private benefactor to pony up 81 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:04,360 $130,000,000 to pay the military in the US. 82 00:06:04,840 --> 00:06:08,520 And our military personnel got their paychecks on October 15th, 83 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,680 which they weren't supposed to from a private benefactor. 84 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,840 Meaning essentially in the US, we have the equivalent of a 85 00:06:17,840 --> 00:06:23,000 mercenary military force. We have the, I mean, it's, it's 86 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,160 like the mafia. It's, you know, we have private 87 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:31,920 entities, no congressional oversight, no transparency. 88 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:33,720 And it's unclear who they work for. 89 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,160 I mean, you know, you work for the person who pays you. 90 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,640 So now we, the people aren't paying our military anymore. 91 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,560 It's coming from private benefactors. 92 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,280 It's insane. It's insane. 93 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,280 What is this going on? I I think we're witnessing A 94 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:54,360 coup d'etat in the USA. Second, Trump initiated the 95 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,320 first with the lockdowns of 2020. 96 00:06:57,840 --> 00:07:00,960 That was a military operation. That was a DoD operation. 97 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,080 Yes, yes. People don't realize that, by 98 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:09,600 the way. It's, it's because Maha again 99 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:15,320 was just SAIOP over SAIOP over SAIOP, layered and intertwined. 100 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,320 And so Maha came. I believe that Maha is a psyop. 101 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:24,160 I believe that MAGA is a psyop. The medical freedom community, 102 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:31,320 in my opinion, was infiltrated and redirected through Maha. 103 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:37,760 And tragically, Bobby Kennedy Junior, who was a champion for 104 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:42,160 20 years and achieved an enormous amount, but he made the 105 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:48,560 decision to align with Donald Trump and enter the belly of the 106 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,520 beast, which is why don't. You think he meant well, but 107 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:56,360 don't you think he meant well? They all do, they all do, they 108 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:01,520 all do. It's a hubris that is very 109 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,960 human, right? And it's something that we have 110 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,080 seen throughout human history. This is nothing new. 111 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:12,640 If you go back 5000 years in human history, you will find, 112 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,880 you know, I'm a Christian, I believe in Christ. 113 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:23,440 I've read my Bible three times from the book of Revelations to, 114 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,560 or I'm sorry, from Genesis to the book of Revelations in 115 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,280 multiple versions and translations. 116 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:36,600 And you go back into, I mean, the beginning of human history 117 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,440 and these same types of things play out, right? 118 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,960 It begins with human hubris, meaning, well, I'm going to be 119 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,720 the guy that can go in and shake things up. 120 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,320 I'm going to have the moral clarity and the ability to do 121 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,840 things. And they all go in thinking that 122 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:02,240 that they just need this power in order to do XY and Z. 123 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:08,680 But invariably they go in the The Dirty little secret is that 124 00:09:08,680 --> 00:09:15,000 you can't get to Washington, DC unless you compromise severely 125 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,440 and, and most people, you have to do 1 bad thing after another. 126 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,120 You have to tell one lie after another. 127 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,560 And we watched Bobby Kennedy Junior begin to lie to his 128 00:09:26,560 --> 00:09:30,000 constituency from the very beginning, from his very first 129 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,400 speech. He wouldn't even say the word 130 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,360 vaccine. His very first speech ending his 131 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,160 campaign and lining up with President Trump I don't even 132 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,000 believe mentioned COVID-19 vaccine or COVID. 133 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,560 But it was also also, do you remember how he was speaking 134 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:49,520 with a forked tongue? He, he said that the measles 135 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,120 vaccine was the best way to treat measles. 136 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,120 And then and then Children's Health defense kind of just they 137 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,920 distance themselves from that statement. 138 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,520 And then he had to do damage control and so on and so forth. 139 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,920 Oh, that was just the beginning. That was just the beginning. 140 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,600 Now, Bobby Kennedy junior testified in front of a a a 141 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:17,240 joint committee hearing about two months ago and said, I'm 142 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,960 paraphrasing here. My goal is to have every 143 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,960 American citizen on a wearable device. 144 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,720 Yes, in four years. Yes, yes, I remember. 145 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:37,360 They want to use AI technology to create 500 new. 146 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,400 While not these are two separate, they want to use AI 147 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,960 technology to create new forms of vaccines. 148 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,240 To treat. Yeah, that's Stargate. 149 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:53,040 They want they have. There are 5 not not only is the 150 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:58,520 COVID vaccine still on the market, that the poisoned bio 151 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,640 weapon is still being distributed through HHS and 152 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,840 promoted by HHS to pregnant women and babies. 153 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,160 By the way, that was a lie when they said that they were 154 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,520 changing the recommendations. They are not. 155 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:17,960 It's ambiguous, it's confusing and they are still recommending 156 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:24,520 the COVID vaccine for every person or every person in an at 157 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:29,240 risk category, which includes every pregnant women, women, 158 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,120 woman. They are defined as at risk and 159 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:37,640 also 75% of the population of children in the US because they 160 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:43,400 have asthma, allergies, you know, ADHD, any version of of 161 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,400 adverse event. So they're lying, they're 162 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:53,320 playing games. And you know, they're also 163 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:59,520 developing and fast tracking 500, more than 500 new mRNA 164 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,400 technologies right now, right now. 165 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,800 And so Jay Bhattachary, not a single penny from NIH, that's 166 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,280 our National Institute of Health, not a single penny to 167 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,280 study the mechanisms of harm from a vaccine. 168 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,960 They are absolutely abandoning the vaccine injured. 169 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,960 They won't even acknowledge the vaccine injured. 170 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,720 They won't acknowledge COVID vaccine injuries, but they're 171 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,160 pumping billions and billions into the development of new 172 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:36,440 MRAMRNA technologies, aerosolized vaccines, do you 173 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,720 name it. Shannon, come on. 174 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,840 We, we, we all know it's, it's, it's 5D chess. 175 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:48,440 We know this because Q told us. No, no, no, no, Jeremy. 176 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:53,400 No, no. I mean, it's I I don't, I think 177 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:57,520 the in the US we might, aside from China, we're probably the 178 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:03,120 most propagandized culture on the face of the planet. 179 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,320 It's insane. Q Anon SIOP. 180 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:11,120 And you know, by the way, I called that out, Jeremy, your 181 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,120 audience will love this about me. 182 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:15,640 I'm the girl. I'm that girl. 183 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,120 I'm the girl who's going to tell you those pants make your butt, 184 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,520 your butt look big, right? Like not to be a jerk. 185 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,320 I want you to look good, right? I want you to look good in your 186 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,080 jeans. And I'm not going to sugarcoat 187 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,480 it, right? And so I told my audience. 188 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,840 Now, as I mentioned, I'm a Christian, I'm a conservative. 189 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,200 I have Christian conservative values. 190 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:40,200 I believe in liberty, though. I believe people should have the 191 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:44,120 right to to worship in the way that they want is not as long as 192 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,760 they're not, you know, encroaching on our civil 193 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:51,200 liberties. And so when I started my career 194 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,480 as a talk radio host on AM talk radio out of it, I kid you not, 195 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:02,120 a double wide trailer in a cornfield in in the Finger Lakes 196 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,840 region of New York, that's where I started. 197 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,880 And so I'm like, yeah, you know, this is going to be great. 198 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,240 I'm going to be a radio host. I'm a Republican, I'm a 199 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,880 conservative. They just have bad messaging. 200 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,240 I'm, you know, I've been in marketing and advertising. 201 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,920 I'm going to help message this because it's so easy to sell 202 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:23,200 when people really, little did I know it was all a total fraud. 203 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,920 I figured out it was the UDA party about two years into my 204 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,680 show after paying attention, watching multiple cycles. 205 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,320 But when Donald Trump came down the elevator, the golden 206 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,160 elevator, and I'm a New Yorker and he's a New Yorker, When he 207 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,360 came down that golden elevator and was like, I'm running for 208 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:46,320 president and all of the things, I was like, this guy is a con 209 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,000 man. He is a New York City Liberal 210 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:55,720 Democrat, borderline sociopath. I mean, the guy will lie to your 211 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,680 fit. He's like, there's no way this 212 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,920 is going to work. And I said that 10 years ago. 213 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,840 And I feel like I'm I'm Alice and I went on the rabbit hole 214 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,280 and things have just gotten crazier because I never thought 215 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,800 they would buy Donald Trump to begin with. 216 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,960 I'm like, this is ridiculous. He's a reality TV star. 217 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,080 This is not real, but lo and behold, the psyops are so 218 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:27,120 powerful and sophisticated. Yeah, but I mean, hold on, the 219 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,880 counter argument that I've heard a few times is that, well, he's 220 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,560 better than Kamala Harris and Joe Biden for that matter. 221 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,160 Yeah, that's a tactic. That is a diversion and a 222 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:45,280 tactic, and it instructs us as humans to choose the lesser of 223 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:46,920 the two evil. So yeah. 224 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:48,840 Yes, but they're all modal management anyway. 225 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,920 Well, yeah, but The thing is that, you know, if you choose 226 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,080 the lesser of two evils for an extended period of time, you end 227 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,200 up with just plain evil because it only descends. 228 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:06,520 So yes, my guy is a demon, but your guy is a worse demon. 229 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,360 And so then the apparatus instructs us to choose from the 230 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,200 two demons. And then we have to, we have to 231 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,520 compromise our values in order to play the game. 232 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:22,840 We have to compromise what we believe as humans and what our 233 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,440 principles are because we are, we hate the other side or we 234 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,880 fear the other side, or we're in a full scale cult on our side. 235 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:39,600 And so this paradigm of the the false choice is, is incredibly 236 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:45,800 damaging and eroding. And I think we are at kind of 237 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:51,960 the the bottom, bottom phases of the cynicism and the lies and 238 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,280 the distortions and the corruption and the evil. 239 00:16:55,640 --> 00:17:01,680 Donald Trump just a couple days ago posted an AI meme of him in 240 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:08,520 a plane with a crown on his head, a video dumping feces all 241 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,400 over the United States of America. 242 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,599 And the protesters, people who, yeah, they're, they're Liberal 243 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:19,960 Democrats at the the No Kings rally primarily, but they were 244 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:24,520 exercising their God-given natural right to express their 245 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,000 opinions about government. They're extra exercising their 246 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,640 right to free speech. And they were peaceful, by the 247 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,960 way. And I went to a No Kings rally, 248 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,000 by the way, and there was number Antifa. 249 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,040 Yeah, there was number Antifa. There was, there was number 250 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,320 violence. There were no blue hairs. 251 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,280 I didn't see any L any LGBTQ at all. 252 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,000 They were, they looked just like you and me. 253 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,600 They looked like the protests that I LED four years ago when 254 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:57,960 the government was locking down. So their trick, and it's a 255 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,600 trick, and when I say it's sophisticated, I mean that it's 256 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,240 sophisticated because they get us to make false choices by 257 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,440 frightening us and and scaring us and dividing us from the 258 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,360 other side. But it's the equivalent of 259 00:18:12,360 --> 00:18:18,600 choosing between Satan and Lucifer, stage 4 cancer or a 260 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,040 heart attack. Those are the choices that 261 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,120 they're giving us and they always start with, well, he's 262 00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:26,160 better than Kamala. OK. 263 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:30,680 That is low level thinking. And anyone who thinks that way 264 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:35,760 has failed Politics 101. They've just failed because 265 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:40,440 that's BS, right? Like in a sane world, you can 266 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,720 say this person aligns more with my values than that person, 267 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,080 right? But we're just saying this 268 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,880 person is less evil than my person. 269 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,600 We need to reject that. The culture needs to reject 270 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,360 that. You sound quite jaded though. 271 00:18:56,360 --> 00:19:01,560 I mean, who wouldn't be? I'm completely jaded, but like, 272 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,000 no, but Jeremy, I'm such a Pollyanna. 273 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:10,320 It's it's I'm, it's a duality for me, right? 274 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,840 Yes. Because I believe that we can 275 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,560 have a bright future. I believe that humanity can 276 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,680 persist. I believe that we can break out 277 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,520 of this. I know that because. 278 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:25,520 Well, that's the question. How? 279 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,440 OK, This is why I sound jaded and cynical. 280 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:35,080 In order for us to do the things that we necessarily have to do 281 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:40,120 as a species of humans and as a culture in our countries are 282 00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:42,800 very you're in, you're in Africa, I'm in the United 283 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,240 States. You spent some time in China. 284 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,600 You know, each country is going to have to figure this out on 285 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,120 their own. And here in the US, each state 286 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,920 is going to have to figure this out on our on its own. 287 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,880 And each family, it's going to, it's going to come down to the 288 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:03,160 individual, the family unit, the locality, your local government 289 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,520 to fix these things because they are playing for keeps. 290 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,960 They put this in motion. It's happening. 291 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,320 We can't stop it. And there's no party that's 292 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,520 going to save us. Politics will not save us. 293 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,880 Donald Trump won't save us. Biden won't save us. 294 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,960 Kamala won't save us, right? But in order to realize that, 295 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,400 you have to shed, you have to acknowledge how corrupt they are 296 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,400 in the 1st place. And that's where the cynicism 297 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,920 comes in, right? It's like you've got to 298 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:35,920 acknowledge that these people are vicious predators, that you 299 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,160 can't get into a position of power unless you're a sociopath 300 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,320 or a psychopath. At this point, I believe it 301 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,200 wasn't always the case. There is there? 302 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,600 There are wonderful examples of good governance, governance who 303 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,040 governments who did their jobs correctly. 304 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,560 But we also know that every government eventually, 305 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,320 eventually will become corrupted. 306 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,040 Every institution, because they're man made, will 307 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:05,160 eventually become corrupted. So it is our job wherever we are 308 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,680 in history. And this is cyclical. 309 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,000 It's not, oh, this is the worst time in human history. 310 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,040 Believe me. Like, the fall of Rome was 311 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,720 pretty bad. You know, Nazi Germany was 312 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,000 pretty bad. We've had lots of worst times in 313 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:24,040 human history where evil escapes in just a breathtaking way and 314 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,200 takes the lives of millions if not billions of people. 315 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,960 We are at war. But it's not country versus 316 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,040 country. It isn't D versus R, It is 317 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,680 humanity versus these various power structures who have been 318 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,680 able to accumulate so much power, but they don't have that 319 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,560 much power. They need our consent. 320 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,680 We have to play ball. And so the way to win is to stop 321 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,960 playing ball. I don't know that I will vote in 322 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,800 another election, Jeremy. I'm not sure that I will. 323 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,440 The culture is doing amazing things. 324 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,640 Our culture revolted against the lockdowns, and we were able to 325 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,240 wrestle ourselves out of lockdown. 326 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:09,080 And here in the US, 35 to 40% of Americans refused the shots. 327 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,160 OK, that's our lesson. We're in the next phase. 328 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,440 It's going to be economic and digital tyranny, and our job is 329 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:19,160 to find each other as a culture, help each other, share 330 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,960 information, refuse to be afraid, refuse to fall into the 331 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,160 false political paradigms, and then refuse to comply and give 332 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,840 them our consent. I'm not going to give you a 333 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,240 digital ID. I'm going to use cash. 334 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:38,120 I'm going to spend only two hours on my phone every day and 335 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:41,200 spend the rest of the time outside with my family. 336 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,040 I'm going to embrace analogue and humanity. 337 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,480 And yes, certain people might want to do the whole tech thing. 338 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,000 Move to Shanghai if you want to do the the tech thing, right? 339 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,280 If you want to live in a technography, go for it, right? 340 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:58,520 But we don't have to do this. We have choices as humans, and 341 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,920 it always comes down to a choice. 342 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,000 I've said many times. I've said many times, in fact I 343 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,880 was actually saying to you just before we started recording, 344 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:13,160 that one of the reasons why I live, I love living on the 345 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:18,200 African continent, South Africa more specifically, is how 346 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,600 backwards we are. I. 347 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:25,120 Love it so in other we have such a useless, broken, 348 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,360 infrastructural, inept government that it'll it'll take 349 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:33,000 many, many more years for us to catch up with all this 350 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,080 technocratic new world order nonsense that's happening, you 351 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,000 know, on your side of the world and. 352 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:39,600 You don't have to. You don't. 353 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:41,600 Have to. You don't have to. 354 00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:43,960 What do you mean don't have to? Catch up. 355 00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:46,680 I don't. I don't see techno or techno 356 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,360 fascism as catching up. I see it as devolving. 357 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:53,720 It is a devolving and a retarded humanity. 358 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,080 I would say you are probably hot, more highly elevated. 359 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,920 I would look at a tribe in Africa and say that you're more 360 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,120 highly elevated. Who? 361 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,720 Who are those people in in in your country that live off the 362 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,440 grid? What are they called? 363 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,120 Amish. We have a ship of them, the 364 00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:12,360 Amish and the Mennonite cultures, and they're growing 365 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,480 and there's. They are ahead of the curve. 366 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,800 They're completely ahead of the curve. 367 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:22,360 Absolutely. The Amish live, so I live in, in 368 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:27,680 the Finger Lakes region of New York State about, I would say I 369 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:33,480 don't know, 3-4 hours from northern Pennsylvania, which is, 370 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:38,680 you know, settled by the Dutch and, and Amish country. 371 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:43,320 So we have Amish and Mennonites all over rural New York State 372 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:48,000 and Pennsylvania, and they don't use electricity, They don't use 373 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,480 modern medicine, they don't use credit cards, nothing digital. 374 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,680 It's all they're, you know, insulated communities. 375 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:00,120 But let me tell you, they come out, we have farm markets. 376 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,760 The Mennonites are kind of an offshoot of the Amish, and they 377 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,800 just live. I mean, they've got it made, 378 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,840 right? Like they just live within their 379 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,880 communities. They don't play ball with the 380 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,400 technology. And I don't think all technology 381 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,600 is bad. I like technology, but it has to 382 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,800 work for me, the human. If it doesn't work for me, then 383 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,240 fuck you, I'm not going to use it. 384 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,520 That's kind of my mindset. And I'm not going to as best I 385 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,240 can, I'm not going to take your digital ID. 386 00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:34,280 I'm just not going to play ball. And so our job is to throw 387 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,240 wrenches and everything. Set up parallel economies, 388 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,320 refuse to comply, Organize locally, just throw a million 389 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,720 wrenches because they're not nearly as as as powerful as we 390 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,360 think they are, and I don't think they're as nearly as 391 00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:51,400 technologically advanced as we think they are. 392 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,560 Yes, I think you're right. I have a similar view to you. 393 00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:01,560 I I I don't buy the narrative that they are all just, you 394 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,520 know, super beings that, you know, they're all just, they're 395 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,200 all ahead of the curve. No, no, they're also humans and 396 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,440 they're also stupid. Many of them, yes. 397 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,160 And they make and they make terrible decisions. 398 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,920 Yeah. I mean, look at Peter Thiel. 399 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:24,680 Looks like a corpse. I'm 100% certified organic 400 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,960 human, OK? And if you put me up next to 401 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,560 Peter Thiel, he looks like Skeletor. 402 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,520 His face is set. Look at Elon Musk. 403 00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:39,920 Elon Musk does not look healthy. Donald Trump does not look 404 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,040 healthy. The majority of the people 405 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:49,760 running things look horrifying. And that's just that's just from 406 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:56,200 a casual observation. So they want us to believe this 407 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,320 is the wave of the future and that AI is going to control 408 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,320 everything and that robots are going to run the world. 409 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,960 They're not, they're not. Robots are fine. 410 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,160 They can do certain things. They're not. 411 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,480 AI can only exist with human intelligence. 412 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:21,240 AI needs us. AI can't do anything without 413 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:25,360 humans. And when it's challenged, it 414 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:30,800 falls apart. I mean, here in the US and see, 415 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:36,040 we're moving into the economic meltdown, but here in the US, 416 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,920 the wheels are falling off of the AI jalopy big time, big 417 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,720 time. Everyone knows about the NVIDIA 418 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:53,120 Intel magnificent, magnificent 7 circular investment strategy, 419 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,160 which is basically, I mean, it's, there's no there there, 420 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,440 they're not making any money. None of them are profitable 421 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,360 except for NVIDIA. And the AI is falling apart. 422 00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:10,560 They're being sued for for copyright infringement. 423 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:15,480 And you can't take, you can't take people's human creations. 424 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:22,440 And so the the AI is getting weaker and weaker and weaker and 425 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,080 people are now wise to how much data is being collected on them. 426 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,240 And so people are opting out of a lot of things. 427 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:36,440 So, you know, it's definitely becoming more evident that 428 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,400 there's really no there there. And people are going to, I 429 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,200 think, you know, in our, we're going to be asked to choose 430 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,320 either a global technocracy or versions of global technocracy 431 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,320 in each of our countries or not. We need to say no. 432 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,800 And if enough of us say no, then humanity will flourish for the 433 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,120 next 100 years. But do you think enough? 434 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,480 We'll say no, though. Yes, I do. 435 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,680 I do. So you aren't or they jaded. 436 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:10,040 No, no, we don't need that many. You literally. 437 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,360 And, and the vaccines fell apart. 438 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,360 No one's getting vaccinated in the US anymore. 439 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,560 Like women aren't vaccinating their children. 440 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,400 Like hide your wives, hide your kids. 441 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,920 Like the, the, the vaccine narrative is completely falling 442 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,400 apart. And that is because of the COVID 443 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,440 vaccine. And that is because 35% of the 444 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,600 American population fucking refused. 445 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,520 They're like, you can throw me in prison and I'm not going to 446 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,960 take that vaccine. You can take my job. 447 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,440 My mother and my sister were both fired from their non 448 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,520 medical jobs for not taking the vaccine, right? 449 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,520 People lost so much. But now, so here what do you 450 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,560 have a minority of Americans just saying screw you, we're not 451 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,880 doing it. Everything falls apart. 452 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,520 The exact same thing can happen with technocracy and you don't 453 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:05,000 even need 35% ten to 15%. If 10 to 15% of humanity says 454 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,400 we're not going to play, we're going to and not playing could 455 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:14,960 mean not take not taking a digital ID or using any of their 456 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,000 the government sponsored digital currencies, right? 457 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,640 That might be tricky. It's scary. 458 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,640 We're going to have to think we're not going to we're not 459 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,920 going to know how this is going to shake out, right. 460 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,880 They might collapse the economy, they might collapse the 461 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,200 Internet. They might push us into, you 462 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,400 know, World War three with nuclear weapons, which will 463 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,880 probably be like dropping nukes in the middle of of the Pacific 464 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,960 Ocean and play act. I don't even believe there are 465 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,040 wars anymore, you know, like there, there's so much theater 466 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,520 out there that, that I could see that. 467 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,520 And they kill enough people with shots, right? 468 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,840 They, they don't, they don't wipe out humanity with guns and 469 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,160 tanks. That's way too messy. 470 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,040 They just use the tip of a needle these days. 471 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,760 Hold on Shannon, something that has bugged me for a while 472 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,200 though, and maybe your observation is different, but 473 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:11,400 now that the COVID era quote, UN quote is over, people around me 474 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,760 seem to have gone back into their slumber. 475 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,280 Have have you noticed? Have you noticed the same thing? 476 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,760 Yes, yeah, that's part of the SIA and you also. 477 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,920 I mean, it's very hard to be heightened like this for an 478 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,360 extended period of time. I think you and I are crazy. 479 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,160 Yeah. Like I don't I've been like this 480 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,440 my entire for 10 years like. And I also want to add to what 481 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,240 you're saying earlier about Trump as a as an outsider, one 482 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,600 of the things that that impressed me about his second 483 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,040 term is how he brought millions and millions of people back into 484 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,320 the system. Oh yeah. 485 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:53,760 Oh, absolutely, absolutely. It's it's a Svengali like 486 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,960 messaging. That is, I just, I marvel at it. 487 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,600 I mean, it's extraordinary, Trump. 488 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,200 This is why, This is why millions of people make excuses 489 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,160 the whole time for him, because they their ideological like for 490 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:16,760 him, excuse the pun, Trump's what that the, the, the, the, 491 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,040 the fact that he actually is just middle management and he's 492 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,640 part of the machine. Right. 493 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,600 He's been set up as a hero and they do this really good example 494 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,800 of this is the Charlie Kirk assassination and the 495 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:35,240 deification of the victims. Now Charlie Kirk is a victim. 496 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,760 I'm not saying that that I'm not going to make any statements 497 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,480 about that assassination and what I think about it, but. 498 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,720 You're welcome to. I don't need more trouble, OK? 499 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,440 I don't need more. I don't need more trouble. 500 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:59,280 But you know, Trump began this with the raid on Mar a Lago and 501 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,920 all of the lawsuits and the perp walks and the handcuffs, right? 502 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,480 It's a, it's victim casting, right? 503 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,280 And you pile that on to the fact that they're traumatized, right? 504 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,600 How do people, how do people get pulled into a cult? 505 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,400 How do they get, how do they get pulled into the SIOP or into 506 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,960 mass formation psychosis? We understood how that happened 507 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,400 during COVID, right? People were terrified that they 508 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:30,120 were going to die from this deadly pandemic that is killing 509 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,120 everyone. And what did they use? 510 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,840 They used bots and trolls on the Internet. 511 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,840 They use paid influencers. They use left wing news media. 512 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,840 They use right wing news media. They use social media. 513 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,080 They had already gathered an enormous amount of psychographic 514 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:53,280 data and demographic data via social media on every one of us. 515 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,040 So you and I each, we both have like a digital avatar out there. 516 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,920 There, It's a, it's a copy of us. 517 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,080 It's a digital copy. And they have information and 518 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,720 they know what makes me tick and they know what makes you tick. 519 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,480 They know your fear triggers, your fear triggers are different 520 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,960 than my fear triggers. They know what makes you happy, 521 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,199 which what what you know spurs the dopamine. 522 00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:23,040 They know your religious values, your financial situation, right? 523 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,800 They don't have everything, but they know enough. 524 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,520 And what they do is they tailor the messaging via the bots and 525 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:35,440 trolls in the algorithms to to traumatize us. 526 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,040 OK. And the emotional reaction is 527 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,719 very real. The we're in, in the simulation. 528 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:46,480 What they're delivering to us is very fake and it's and it's 529 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,040 synthetic, but what we're feeling is very real. 530 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,400 And so then we act out from that. 531 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:57,120 And that is why people literally put 7 masks on their face and 532 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:02,920 wore filthy rags over their nose and mouth for the for like 2 533 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,920 years. That is why people locked 534 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,640 themselves in their homes. That's why people allowed their 535 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:14,160 loved ones to die alone, isolated and tormented in 536 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,560 nursing homes because they were so terrified. 537 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,760 And so then when you're in that state, what do you need? 538 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,720 You need a hero. You need someone to save you, 539 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,920 right? And so then they come in. 540 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,760 What exactly? They come in and they set up 541 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,120 your hero. But the hero isn't really a 542 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,960 hero. It's part of the simulation. 543 00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:43,760 And so it's that cycle of trauma based 911 was, was a a was 544 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,240 trauma based fear control, but it was very real. 545 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,840 An assassination of Charlie Kirk is trauma based fear control on 546 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,920 a mass level. And you're seeing now the 547 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,240 deification of Charlie Kirk. People worship him. 548 00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:03,560 They align him like Jesus Christ and they will, they will demand 549 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:09,920 that fascism, you know, is deployed or or tyranny is 550 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,280 deployed in order to avenge Charlie Kirk. 551 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,360 Now we're going to watch this play out with the Democrat Party 552 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,000 right now because the Democrat Party, all of the people you saw 553 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,880 at no kings and they were probably geofencing and no 554 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,800 kings. They were probably gathering 555 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:28,360 data on every single person that would that turned out millions 556 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,360 about 100, you know, not hundreds, but 10s of millions I 557 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,320 believe turned out and I went to one. 558 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,360 They are right now in the process of the the trauma based 559 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,240 fear or the fear based trauma control of the Democrats. 560 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:47,640 I believe this is these are my assumptions and they will be so 561 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,120 frightened of what Trump is going. 562 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,640 That's why Trump dumps feces on them and that's why they poke 563 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,520 them and they terrify them. He does all these crazy radical 564 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,360 things. They're going to elevate for the 565 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:05,360 Democrats likely if, if the two party, this two party thing is, 566 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,920 is fine. It's there's cracks in it, 567 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,320 right? If the Democrats fall for it, 568 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:15,680 they will elevate a new Democrat anti hero that will suck up all 569 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,680 of their energy and distract all of them. 570 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:23,000 And then they'll demand fascism so that their anti hero can come 571 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,640 and be our anti hero. But really what's happening at 572 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,480 the end of the day is those they're, they're working 573 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,680 together and, and we're just descending deeper into, into the 574 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,160 abyss. The answer is human is being 575 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,000 human and knowledge is the first step. 576 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:45,600 Like my children know when they go on the Internet that when 577 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,360 they open up an app and my 17 year old daughter actually just 578 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,600 on her own deleted her TikTok app, which I thought was 579 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,040 fascinating. But my kids, I have a 1917 and 580 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,600 13 year old, they know when they go into the app, they the 581 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,920 question they should say is what does this app want me to think 582 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,720 today? How does this app want me to 583 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,000 feel today? What algorithms are being 584 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:17,080 deployed at me when I go on Twitter or Facebook or truth 585 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:23,440 social or TikTok or Instagram or any of the OR rumble or any of 586 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,640 the rightly, but you know, what is it that they, how do they 587 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,840 want me to feel? And then it's a constant, once 588 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:33,520 you have that antenna up, it'll never come down, it'll never 589 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,400 come down. And you'll start to see these 590 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,960 things very fast. Like I can, I can spot these 591 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:43,720 things in a millisecond at this point because, because I've been 592 00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:46,720 trained to, I've trained myself to, everyone can do that. 593 00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:48,880 And people do that instinctively as well. 594 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:55,200 And so, you know, I, I, I'm pretty confident that there's 595 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,720 going to be a backlash against everything technocratic because 596 00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:03,800 it's fucking crazy. It's crazy and no one wants it. 597 00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:10,920 Shannon, do you think though that how do I ask this question, 598 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:18,880 OK, Do you think that we are part of a type of Luddite 599 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,280 percentage of the population who just doesn't like progress? 600 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,680 No, not at all. Technology isn't progress. 601 00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:33,320 And technology has been around since the beginning of human 602 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,440 history. And every 100 years some new 603 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,240 technological advance comes around and they say this is the 604 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:42,680 way that it's going to be. And now things are different. 605 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:48,040 Humanity hasn't changed ever. Humans are exactly the same as 606 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,760 they have always been. And we, what do we do? 607 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,680 We're born, we learn something, we grow up and go to school, 608 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,280 learn. We we fall in love, we get 609 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,800 married, we have children, we plant gardens, we build houses, 610 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,840 we live, we have emotions, we throw graduation parties and 611 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,800 weddings and all of the things we live. 612 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,080 We will always do that. Go back to the Old Testament, 613 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,200 read the Old Testament. They do all the same things that 614 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,760 we do. There is corruption, there's 615 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,440 greed, there is, there is. There are bad people. 616 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:26,760 In the, in every culture, in every time in human history and 617 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,320 in every time we have technological advances, it ends 618 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,800 up wiping out a ton of people who are, you know, who fall into 619 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,800 the trap. And then and then we adjust, we 620 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,800 acclimate, we accept, we take the things of the new 621 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,880 developments and the technologies that we like that 622 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,560 work for humans and we throw the rest out. 623 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,800 And we've done that forever. So it's it to me, it's not 624 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:58,280 Luddite, you know, human thinking is elevated so far 625 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:03,680 above technocratic thinking. And anyone who tries to lie and 626 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,320 say that that is not the case, It, it's, it's just it, they're, 627 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,240 they're deceiving you. They're absolutely deceiving 628 00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:14,400 you. But why do you think that it's 629 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,560 the minority of people that are pushing back? 630 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,360 Because everything happened happens in the margins, all the 631 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,880 movements, everything happens in the margins of humanity. 632 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:33,400 Everything. Gideon's army is great example 633 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:40,000 in the Old Testament they beat a massive army with like 300 men 634 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,680 and God purpose purposefully wanted Gideon's army to be small 635 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:48,000 because he wanted them to rely on him, on God right, to give 636 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,040 them that, that victory. But you know, recent history, 637 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,800 the Revolutionary War, most Americans didn't care whether we 638 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,840 were under King George or whether we had a Republic. 639 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,120 They didn't care. It was the margins. 640 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,720 On the periphery is where these battles are fought. 641 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,280 So you and I are on the periphery, right? 642 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,640 And the wins and the losses come in the margins. 643 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,240 And then the rest of the culture is just going to move the way 644 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:19,280 they always do. The, the, the 80% is they're 645 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,560 always, there's a reason that Christ called them the sheep 646 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,480 right there. And it is not derogatory. 647 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,360 It is, it is not meant to be derogatory. 648 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:37,720 It's that most people are built to kind of go with the flow. 649 00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:39,840 We're, we're naturally, we want to be in groups. 650 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,880 We want to be protected. We don't want to go out and 651 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,760 fight these battles. We don't, you know, and that's 652 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,200 normal and that's their calling. That's you know, one of the 653 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,680 things I say to my audience every day is from your own 654 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,600 corner of the world, according to your unique talents and 655 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:59,880 abilities, that that's what you need to do, right? 656 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,120 You got to get out and pursue truth, justice thing, whatever 657 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,080 it is, whether it's small or big, doesn't matter. 658 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,520 Butterfly effects, ripple effect, all of it. 659 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,880 It doesn't matter what you do. It all matters what you do. 660 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,360 I guess it's kind of a funny way of saying it, but but I've 661 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:21,520 gotten over this nonsense of, well, we got to get everyone to 662 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,000 wake up. We need everyone to, to 663 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,120 understand this. We need to go and and tell 664 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,520 everyone about they don't want to hear it, right? 665 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:34,120 And I'm also over this whole like getting mad at people for 666 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,840 not getting involved. They don't care. 667 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,600 Like I live with a normie, my husband, it's a total normie. 668 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:48,800 Shame. He is a, he is a rule follower. 669 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,920 It's like you wouldn't believe what I went through to keep him 670 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,640 off the vaccine, man. He's like, everyone's going to 671 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,680 get it. It's inevitable. 672 00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,800 Like, you know, and I went through really tough times, like 673 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,840 being mad at him, really mad at him. 674 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,240 Like, why aren't you standing up? 675 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,080 Why aren't you on a street corner, like protesting with me? 676 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:15,200 Why aren't you, You know, and, and I had an epiphany at one 677 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,480 point. I'm like, because he's not 678 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:17,720 seeing things the way I'm seeing. 679 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,720 He believes in the same things I believe, right? 680 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,080 And he's perfectly OK with me doing what I do. 681 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,520 He's just not built to go out there and do the things that I 682 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,000 do. And you know what? 683 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,200 That's OK. He's built to do other things 684 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:42,360 and he's been a very good stabilizing force for me because 685 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:47,080 if it weren't for my husband, I'd probably be in a commune in 686 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,720 the middle of the country somewhere. 687 00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:52,160 Like, I don't know. You didn't mean because I tend 688 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,040 to go there, right? But we all play a role and, and 689 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,800 the normies play a role too. They keep things functioning. 690 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,480 And so we got to stop, right? I'm sorry. 691 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,120 No, no, no, no, no. So I keep interrupting. 692 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,560 No, it's fine. I think I keep talking too much 693 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,800 so tell me if I'm like. No, it's all good. 694 00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:11,280 OK. Yeah. 695 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:16,320 Knowing what you know now in the year 2025, would you go back to 696 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:23,280 2019? I mean, no, absolutely not. 697 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:30,920 No, so many people have been awakened and the journey has 698 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,400 been painful. You know, I've lost you. 699 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,880 We all have lost a lot. Those, those of us who have 700 00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,200 stood up. It's some it's I sometimes I 701 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,080 feel like a tortured artist, like it. 702 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,720 It tortures me, this whole thing. 703 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:47,600 But at the same time, I see miracles. 704 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:54,320 My strengthening or my faith in Christ has only increased. 705 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,440 I mean, I had AI had a faith crisis around the time of COVID. 706 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,200 I've only grown in my relationship with the Lord. 707 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:07,920 I've only grown in my relationship with Christ and and 708 00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:13,160 I would never go back, right? Like you, sometimes you have to 709 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,800 go through these things. You have to go through these 710 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,800 difficult things in order to get to that moment of peace, that 711 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,120 time of peace. And we've seen those times in 712 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,800 human history. I mentioned that it's cyclical, 713 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,840 right? Like there are periods of, of, 714 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,000 of peace, there are periods of prosperity, there are periods 715 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:37,160 of, of enlightenment, and then then there are dark periods too. 716 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,080 And the story plays out over and over and over. 717 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,720 And I think the key to figuring things out is just knowing where 718 00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:46,760 you are in the cycle and accepting it. 719 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:52,200 Yes, let me let me ask you an extension to that question. 720 00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:01,280 If you had more than one Damascus moment in your life, 721 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,360 when would you say the first one was? 722 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,680 It's really interesting. So OK, so let me help you a 723 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,320 little bit. So my first real Damascus 724 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,480 moment, red pull moment I think would would have been around 725 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,400 2009. I watched a documentary called 726 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,640 The Great Global Warming Swindle, and for the first time 727 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:26,400 I held up a mirror to what I thought I knew about how things 728 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:27,760 worked. Right. 729 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,600 Funnily enough, that whole that that whole decade, I didn't 730 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,760 question 9/11, not even once. And it was only, yeah, it was 731 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,240 only after, you know, the what what do you call it? 732 00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:41,680 The 20 teens that, that after 2010, before 2020, I don't know 733 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,680 what you call that wasn't. I don't know what. 734 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:44,600 We call it the teens. Yeah. 735 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,880 I don't know you. You just nailed it. 736 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:51,440 Well, I'll use that. 20 teens that that decade is when I 737 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,040 started questioning lots of things. 738 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,040 So 20, yeah. So for me, 2009 was my first 739 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,200 sort of Damascus moment, and then 2016. 740 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,520 So when when was yours? Yeah. 741 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:07,240 So I would say it was, I mean, I've had a few. 742 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,840 That's the thing. That's why I paused, because 743 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,280 there have been, there have been a few. 744 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:16,240 If I were to go back to the very first one, it was post 911 745 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:22,280 George W Bush. Second, the end of his, did he 746 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,160 have two terms or one? I don't remember. 747 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:31,360 It was probably the end of his first term and it was after. 748 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:38,080 So same time it was a 2008 housing collapse and that whole 749 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,120 fraud. And then they went in and there 750 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,400 was this announcement that the United States government, the 751 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:49,080 federal government took over every took over Freddie Mac and 752 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,080 Fannie Mae. And that was, you know, 753 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,160 essentially every mortgage in the United States of America. 754 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,440 The government kind of took over. 755 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,760 And I remember thinking, that's crazy. 756 00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:03,880 That's crazy. And then I started kind of 757 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:09,520 pursuing because at that point I was diehard George W Bush. 758 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,160 We need to go into Iraq. We need to go get the 759 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,480 terrorists. All the Muslims are going to 760 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,560 come get us. They're going to make us Sharia. 761 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,960 I'm going to be a Muslim like, you know what I mean? 762 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,960 Like I just bought into whole the whole thing he. 763 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,000 He, he was, he was the president that said, is our children 764 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:31,760 learning? You fell for all of it, hook, 765 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,800 line and sinker. I mean, This is why I can have a 766 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,280 lot of grace for people who are in their process of waking up, 767 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,880 right? And we have to have grace 768 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:47,280 because all of us have been in in the simulation and, and it's, 769 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,680 you know, and it's unique experiences and observations. 770 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,120 Like the breaking out is so uniquely personal for every 771 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,960 person that, you know, it's not for me to say you need to see 772 00:49:59,960 --> 00:50:01,520 this right now. The way I see it, they just 773 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:02,880 haven't seen it yet. What can I say? 774 00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:07,200 Now, my husband, by the way, for being a normie, devastatingly 775 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,880 handsome Doctor Joy, that's his name. 776 00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:15,720 He is actually way more cynical now and wait, I mean, I would 777 00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:19,880 say I have definitely, definitely black pilled him a 778 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,120 little bit, but also white pilled, right? 779 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,280 I love the white pill. You have to take the black pill 780 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,320 before you take, before you get to the white pill, which is a 781 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,440 place of hope, right? That is where you get out and 782 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:36,120 you say, OK, things are good. I look at the headlines today in 783 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:41,160 the cycle moves really fast and I'm like, wow, that's crazy. 784 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,560 But I'm so disassociated from it now. 785 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,440 I'm like, I come home, I make dinner. 786 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,800 We plan our, you know, the costumes for the Halloween party 787 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,040 that we're going to go with our neighbors, right? 788 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:57,120 Like I make myself, I exist in their simulation for the 789 00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,680 purposes of defeating it using my platforms, right? 790 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,480 And I got to know what's going on and we all got to kind of 791 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,280 know what's going on. But at the end of the day, we're 792 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,080 all just living our lives, right? 793 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,840 And people who have their computer lid shut and don't 794 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,240 engage, they're so happy. They have no clue what's going 795 00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:14,160 on. They're, they're thrilled. 796 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:20,120 And honestly very, it's very rare that like that the boots 797 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,200 come marching down the street and they actually deploy this 798 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,360 stuff. Like COVID was crazy, but even 799 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,400 in COVID, we didn't see tanks in the streets. 800 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,080 They weren't really going house to house. 801 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,320 They did. They came to my house. 802 00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:38,360 By the way, I was arrested during COVID for my mask coming 803 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:39,320 under my nose. Yeah. 804 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,640 At a school board meeting. It was insane. 805 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,720 It was ridiculous. They sent the police to my house 806 00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:47,720 with two contact tracers to terrorize my children over 807 00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:51,040 quarantine orders. That I Yeah, it was crazy. 808 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,720 That was the closest we ever got to actual real. 809 00:51:55,720 --> 00:51:59,440 Like, we're going to strap you down and we're going to shove. 810 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,720 You know, atrocities are happening. 811 00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:07,520 Tyrannies are happening all over and all around, but that is very 812 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,320 difficult for them to do. So I say live your life, like do 813 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,760 the thing you need to do, but live your life to maintain your 814 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,280 sanity. And then it's off for the races. 815 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:16,600 And I think that we're going to breakthrough this. 816 00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:18,560 I think we're in a 10 year thing, right? 817 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,680 COVID started it. We're five years in now they're 818 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:26,920 going to deploy the, the AI, the crypto, the economic trauma and 819 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,440 the digital trauma. That's this next for five years, 820 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,320 but we're going to win when when germ germ because I called you 821 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:35,600 germ because you're a germ worker, but. 822 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,720 Because we have call me Germ. Yeah, because we have. 823 00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:40,000 We have children. I don't know if you have 824 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:40,920 children. I have kids. 825 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,680 I've got a little boy. Yeah, that's why we do it. 826 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,240 They need freedom. They need liberty. 827 00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,680 You know what's interesting is a friend of a friend of mine, he, 828 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,400 he was a normie before 2020. You were talking about how 829 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:03,760 people woke up and the lockdowns or what suddenly made him 830 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,840 realize something is wrong with everything. 831 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,000 So. Yeah, I love and I I've said 832 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,360 this multiple times, but I don't know if you if you saw my show 833 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,080 that I did with Jessica Hockett. And if you haven't, I'll 834 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:17,360 strongly recommend you go and watch it. 835 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,920 She's great. So she yeah, so she so she has 836 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:26,240 spent years looking at the New York daughter from from 2020 and 837 00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:28,720 basically what the hospitals were were putting out and what 838 00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:30,680 what aligns with reality, etcetera, etcetera. 839 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,760 Basically there was no pandemic and the whole thing was a sigh 840 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,080 up. But she she said, she said on my 841 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:42,080 show, I started out in 2020 looking at the New York hospital 842 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,560 data and I ended up asking, did we land on the moon? 843 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,560 I think that I think that right there, that summarizes 844 00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:54,320 everything. Absolutely. 845 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,520 Absolutely. And it all ends with the aliens, 846 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,400 right? I mean, every conversation 847 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,000 always ends up with the aliens, right? 848 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,840 It's so true. It I mean, she nailed it. 849 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,240 It's true. Like you, you question 850 00:54:07,240 --> 00:54:10,880 everything and but what you know, what frightened me the 851 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,720 most was when I started questioning my faith and I 852 00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:17,680 didn't, I didn't really question my faith and questioning God. 853 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,280 That was the most frightening thing to me. 854 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,680 And I didn't so much as I questioned the church in these 855 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,560 institutions. They all locked down Christians, 856 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,520 people that were supposed to be my people were like the worst of 857 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,760 the worst. And they recommended vaccines, 858 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,280 many of them. Oh my God, in my, my, in my 859 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:45,200 church, they were thanking God for the vaccines in morning 860 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:49,960 prayers after they had been shut down, after they had been they 861 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,640 after they voluntarily shut down. 862 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:59,200 That was a such a crisis for me as a believer and and so that 863 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:00,680 was the only thing that frightened me. 864 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:07,520 But then, you know, God reveals himself through scripture and 865 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,560 through prayer and through and that it just through like just 866 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:16,680 faith, man, you know, just trusting him even when it's 867 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:18,440 dark. I mean, I almost lost my 868 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,800 business again. I mentioned how I was rested 869 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:26,040 handcuffed for a mask slipping beneath my nose. 870 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,360 The school board meeting when I was trying to to free the. 871 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:30,840 Handcuffed. Really. 872 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,360 Handcuffed. Yeah, I have the great picture. 873 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,800 I mean, now it's funny. It was horrifying at the time. 874 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,600 My husband was horrified again, the normie, my children were 875 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,280 horrified, was at their school. And they're like, what? 876 00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,840 What did you do? The entire community? 877 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,280 It was horrifying, utterly horrifying. 878 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:55,640 I can laugh about it now, but you know, so there, there were 879 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,880 so many things when it was just black when I would come on my 880 00:55:58,880 --> 00:55:59,960 radio show. I have a radio show. 881 00:55:59,960 --> 00:56:01,720 I had a radio show at the time. Now I have a podcast. 882 00:56:01,720 --> 00:56:05,760 I'm live every day, right. I've got to say something. 883 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,560 I I can't hide And you know, but there were days when I would be 884 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,720 I just I think I cried the first six months of COVID lockdown 885 00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:18,200 because I knew I knew the second it happened that nothing was 886 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,200 ever going to be the same. I knew that something had 887 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,840 cracked was in motion and that my life would never be the same. 888 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,440 I knew it. And so I went through this 889 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,200 period of mourning, deep, deep mourning. 890 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,040 I started smoking again. So I'm smoking like a troll in 891 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:39,440 my basement, crying smoke. I'm like, this is the worst 892 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,160 thing that's ever happened. And I gave that up again. 893 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:49,400 I'm I'm off the cigarettes. But it, you know, it was that 894 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:54,440 that difficulty, though, drew me so much closer to God, so much 895 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,880 closer to God. And now, man, I don't know 896 00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,480 there's anything that she could shake my face. 897 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,920 There's nothing, nothing. I know that there's a natural 898 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,520 God. I know that he created us 899 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:13,320 because no technology is as majestic, sophisticated or 900 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:19,720 complicated as what he created. Nature and humanity and the fact 901 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:23,560 that we can create life as humans, that I can have babies 902 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,560 like it's just miraculous. It's miraculous. 903 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,280 Then you look at technology and it's like, Oh my gosh, this is 904 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,560 the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen in my life. 905 00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:36,680 Like it's not even it doesn't even hold a candle. 906 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,960 They try to create life. They can't do it. 907 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,960 It's just you know, so the journey has been wonderful. 908 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:49,080 It traumatic, torturing, but at the end of the day, wonderful. 909 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:53,680 And and the more miracles I see when you're out on a limb the 910 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:56,840 way that we are, where you're like, I don't know what to say. 911 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,280 I don't know where the money is going to come from. 912 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:03,040 I'm going to lose my career. You know, all these things that 913 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,360 are necessary when you're standing up and speaking out in 914 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,960 truth, then you're so far on a limb with God that you see 915 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,280 miracle. I see miracles. 916 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,720 It's I'm like, Oh my gosh, like when something goes wrong these 917 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,160 days, I'm like, that's your problem. 918 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,480 God, I'm like, go take care of that guy because I can't, I 919 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:25,080 don't know what to do. And he does, you know, So I 920 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,480 guess that's my story at this at this moment. 921 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,560 And I'm excited for I'm excited to watch other people wake up 922 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,640 and us move into a place of truth. 923 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,480 We can do it. That's a great way to end the 924 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,720 conversation. OK, Shannon, how can my audience 925 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:42,320 follow you? So best way to I mean, get 926 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:43,800 everything would probably be my website. 927 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,360 People can support my work. I'm independent, so outside of 928 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:52,280 the the political paradigm. So independent contribute 929 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,040 contributions and you know, bottom up crowdsourcing is 930 00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,680 always important. So they can go to my website, 931 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,240 theshannonjoy.com. It's the Shannon joy.com. 932 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,280 And you can access my Daily Show, but I'm live every day at 933 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,920 noon. So I'm on Rumble, Twitter, 934 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:16,360 Spreeley TV, Roku TV, Apple TV. I'm on YouTube, Facebook sub 935 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,520 stack and if you just search Shannon Joy or Shannon Joy 936 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,600 radio, that's my handle on most of those accounts. 937 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:27,320 And but the, the website's probably the best hub to get to 938 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,960 get everything and, you know, to get linked up with everything. 939 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:36,000 Shannon, I can't believe I'm I can't believe I'm going to, I'm 940 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,280 going to say the dad joke, but it has been a joy. 941 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,120 That's my real name, by the way. People think it's a stage name. 942 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,040 It is my my middle name. Yeah, it's my real name. 943 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,400 Yeah. Now, luckily for anonymity and, 944 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,520 you know, people can find out my last name if they want, but no, 945 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,320 my mother named me Shannon Joy. It's not my birth certificate. 946 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,320 And I appreciate it. No, it's, it's a great middle 947 00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,200 name, you know. I think so, yeah. 948 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,560 Well it yes, yes, I agree. And by the way. 949 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,200 It has been an absolute pleasure after so many years. 950 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,480 I think you should come back, but not after as many years. 951 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,600 Hold on sooner than that, but for now. 952 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,040 Shannon, thank you for joining me in the changes. 953 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:15,800 Oh, I would love. That's amazing. 954 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,480 And I would love to reciprocate and have you back. 955 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:18,640 I'd I'd like to hear your journey. 956 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,720 I love how you interview. You know, my show is like very 957 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,840 news, news, news, right? And this is so fun. 958 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,440 I was just chat. Yeah. 959 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,520 I just, I love that style of podcast. 960 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,520 It's, it's not my style, but I wish it was. 961 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,440 Sometimes I've just kind of fallen into what mine is, but 962 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,000 it's just, it is a joy. I, I really, I'm really glad 963 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,480 we're able to do this and I hope to collaborate with you a lot 964 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:44,120 more in the future.