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Good afternoon. 
It's Wednesday the 17th of 

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December, just after 1:00. 
Welcome to UK column News. 

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I'm your host, Mike Robinson, 
and joining me in the studio 

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today is Charles Mallett. 
Welcome to the programme, 

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Charles. 
Thank you, Mike. 

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I'm Vanessa Bailey and Mark 
Anderson joined us live by 

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videolink. 
And later in the programme, 

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we're going to be asking what 
happens to our health data. 

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Vanessa is good to have more on 
the Bondi Beach incident. 

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Charles will be reporting on the
spot between the Metropolitan 

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Police and the Freemasons, and 
Mark is going to report on the 

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childhood vaccination schedule 
in the United States. 

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But we're going to begin today 
with comments by the recently 

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appointed head of MI 6, Charles.
We are, and in fact not just 

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her. 
But it certainly appears that 

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the one infrastructure project 
the government is on top of is 

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the construction of the path to 
war. 

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And this week is notable for the
coincidence of two speeches and 

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some very joined up messaging 
from the state, they being the 

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chief of the Secret Intelligence
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the general staff. 
So we're going to look first at 

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what plays Metrowelli, who's 
taken, who's taken over 

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recently, as C said. 
Now, given what she did go on to

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speak about, I think it should 
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granddaughter of Konstantin 
Dobrovolski, who was a Russian 

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collaborator with the Nazis in 
what is now Ukraine during the 

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Second World War. 
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grandfather, this is a difficult
detail to ignore totally. 

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We'll just start with a video 
that sets the tone for her 

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speech. 
I'm going to break with 

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tradition and I won't give you a
global threat tour, but I will 

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focus here on Putin's Russia. 
We all continue to face the 

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menace of an aggressive, 
expansionist and revisionist 

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Russia seeking to subjugate 
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I find it harrowing that 
hundreds of thousands have died,

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with the toll mounting every 
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Because of Putin's historical 
distortions and his compromised 

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desire for respect. 
He is dragging out negotiations 

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and shifting the cost of war 
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But Putin should be in no doubt 
our support is enduring. 

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The pressure we apply on 
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sustained because it is 
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sovereignty and security but to 
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Alongside the grinding war, 
Russia is testing us in the grey

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zone with tactics that are just 
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It's important to understand 
their attempts to bully, fear 

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monger and manipulate because it
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I'm talking about cyber attacks 
on critical infrastructure, 

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drones, buzzing airports and 
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our seas above and below the 
waves, state sponsored arson and

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sabotage, propaganda and 
influence operations that crack 

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open and exploit fractures 
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The only thing she hasn't tried 
to mention there is yellow cake.

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Indeed, not yet anyway, but much
of what she said could, of 

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course be applied to these 
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But instead she wants to direct 
all attention away from every 

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other country on earth and 
ensure that it's directed at 

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Russia. 
She's referring to historical 

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distortions. 
Again, something that's very 

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much been going on on this side 
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The phrase that she used, which 
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just below the threshold of war.
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at the integrated operating 
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June of this year. 
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integrated operating concept, in
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identifying as a threat. 
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need to compete below the 
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distinguishes between operating 
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So in actual fact, the 
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to supposedly stoop to Russia's 
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reinforced by current doctrine. 
Mike, I wonder if you had a 

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comment specifically on this? 
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other people what we do 
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That was that was our doctrine. 
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Russia's doctrine. 
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we constantly do. 
Yeah, exactly. 

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Yeah, Blame everybody else and 
then and then do it yourself. 

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She then goes on to talk about 
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respond? 
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feature, not a bug, in this 
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international engagement, and we
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continue until Putin is forced 
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So how should we respond? 
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understand the world. 
We must shape it too. 

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MI 6 is well positioned to 
respond to these threats and 

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wider global instability and we 
will continue to evolve, just as

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we have throughout our long 
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The UK government has invested 
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we are all using our unique 
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people safe. 
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partnerships across the UK 
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HMGCCNSIF and the wider tech 
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even more important because in 
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single organisation can prevail 
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No, considering the references 
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sentence there, no single 
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The the undertone there is that 
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the United Kingdom is well out 
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have sufficient equipment or 
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threats that she is conjuring. 
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increased need for the use of 
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articulated by the U KS modern 
industrial strategy among other 

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documents. 
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month and within the text there 
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that procurement strategically 
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priorities and creates high 
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local communities and supports 
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security. 
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there's going to be a great 
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Security Strategic Investment 
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being the UK's deep tech venture
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security and defence. 
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about here is off the shelf 
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capital control of which goes 
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that I've just been talking 
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Strategy Investment Fund. 
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example of what we, what's been 
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And now of course we get to the 
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bearing responsibility for any 
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in due course. 
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what she had to say about the 
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But the response to the 
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be delivered by the UK 
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Wider society has a role to play
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That includes work taking place 
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our children don't get duped by 
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Let's all check sources, 
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to those algorithms that trigger
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It also means everyone in 
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world. 
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terrorists plot against us, 
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bully and manipulate, and the 
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Online, on our streets, in our 
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on the screens of our citizens. 
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against this. 
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integrated operating concept has
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expressed it yet again, because 
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of that was the idea that 
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the only front, there's also the
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Cheers. 
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And and and and wrapping it up 
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approach, which was written 
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Defence Review and the National 
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But of course this is directed 
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the references there to getting 
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people from an early age. 
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on Monday, the Chief of the 
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Marshall, Sir Richard Knighton, 
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Services Institute on basically 
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about the long term success and 
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armed forces, supported by what 
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conversation. 
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forward now, he said. 
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argue that the situation is more
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during my career and the price 
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response needs to go beyond 
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forces. 
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same point. 
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response building, defence, 
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the resilience of society and 
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it. 
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mind that the government's doing
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we consider the capabilities of,
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farmers, farmland and reliance 
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access to water and in 
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it's sabotaged by the net zero 
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consumption from data centres 
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probability of an attack by 
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the more one or more NATO states
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He used AI to produce this 
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relied upon to write his speech 
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their country and said that 
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applications to join the armed 
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13,000 successful applicants. 
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Army website says on its joining
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they're no longer inviting 
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nationals, except, strangely 
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Metro Welle and Knighton are 
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installed to drive the state's 
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their respective levels of 
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Knighton has virtually no 
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whatsoever. 
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The delivery of kinetic effects 
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the main effort. 
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the government website and I 
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full. 
There'll be links to the show 

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notes. 
I'll just conclude by reading a 

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tweet from the Russian embassy 
to the UK, which in effect is 

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responding to these speeches and
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no plans, intentions or reasons 
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confrontation with the UK. 
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was the rise of intelligence, as
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from military intelligence. 
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But the UK military intelligence
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efficient, faster and better 
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threats as the Ministry of 
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military intelligence services. 
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Ministry of Defence. 
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recommendations in Strategic 
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mentioned. 
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brings under centralised 
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units from the Royal Navy, the 
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Force, UK space commander, the 
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ensuring they operate as one 
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information is gathered, 
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armed forces. 
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about it. 
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the Minister for Armed Forces, 
Alistair Cairns at RAF Whiten in

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Cambridgeshire. 
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site which houses quotes top 
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the Five Eyes partnership. 
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journalists were brought for a 
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tour and they were told that the
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Europe's door once more. 
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the fear agenda and, and we're 
just being bombarded with it 

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from them. 
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also warned that the next major 
conflict is likely to cause more

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casualties than any UK 
deployment for decades and would

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not be a war of choice. 
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commanded by Cyber and 
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and it's going to be led by this
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of Defence Intelligence. 
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in parallel creating a new 
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offer what they describe as 
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analysis. 
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disinformation. 
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course, all those naughty drone 
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Counterintelligence Unit because
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activity against the Ministry of
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would you believe that the Don 
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week made clear that foreign 
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So if anybody is still laughing 
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everybody that last Thursday we 
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entitled Skripal and Novichok. 
What didn't happen? 

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So if you want to know just how 
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report is and you haven't seen 
that those presentations yet, 

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then please do head on to the UK
column website and watch it. 

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Because the fact that they had 
the goal to cite that particular

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report is just spectacular, 
isn't it? 

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It absolutely is, yeah. 
And we look forward to seeing 

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what the product will be from 
combining all the various 

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intelligence in the same place. 
Absolutely. 

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So let me welcome Vanessa to the
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Vanessa, obviously weekend saw 
events in Australia kicking off 

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and just give us your take on it
then. 

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Well, of course, it wasn't only 
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event in Rhode Island at Brown 
University, also in a number of 

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incidents in Syria, which I'll 
talk about later in the news. 

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I'm looking into the Bondi Beach
incident and I have to say the 

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pushback was almost immediate, 
that this was a false flag and 

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and many other variations on 
that kind of narrative. 

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I'm not reaching any conclusions
of what I've tried to do here is

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just bring together some of the 
information that we now have and

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some of the opinions that are 
are gathering traction in social

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media and in various media 
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But first of all, the first 
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Netanyahu almost immediately 
went out to speak about the 

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event itself and to talk about 
the heroism of what he called a 

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Jewish individual who tackled 
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So let's just see Netanyahu 
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Rhino tawa the Shibuto, the 
rhino gang. 

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Huayu did the Sia. 
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that I believe he had already 
been informed that actually that

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hero came from Syria, actually 
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He's Ahmed al Ahmed, a source of
pride for family and friends in 

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Syria. 
He, he came from a village known

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as al Nairab in Idlib. 
He left Syria in 2006 because, 

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again, many people now are 
trying to associate him with Al 

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Qaeda and ISIS because Al Nairab
became a headquarters for 

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Jolani's Takfiri thugs from 2011
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This is a recap coming from the 
BBC this morning. 

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Now what this mentions, and this
has been picked up by a number 

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of commentators. 
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investigating a trip taken to 
the Philippines by two alleged 

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gunmen. 
The month before, 15 people were

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killed at the shooting attack at
Bondi Beach. 

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Apparently they travelled to the
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and the son Navid using an 
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authorities in Manila told the 
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It's previously been reported 
that they visited the 

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Philippines to receive military 
style training. 

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So let's see where this actual 
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This is Mindanao, which is 
famous for having had an 

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infiltration of ISIS groups, 
which we talked about on UK 

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columns some time ago actually, 
and it is known as an ISIS 

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training area. 
Now this apparently was actually

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known to the Australian 
authorities who had of course 

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also had the two individuals on 
their radar. 

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This was picked up by an account
on X known as Propaganda Co. 

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You can watch the whole video, 
it'll be in the show notes. 

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But this is just the one section
relating to what the Australian 

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authorities already knew about 
the two individuals. 

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An Australian born citizen was 
investigated by the Australian 

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Security Intelligence 
Organisation for six months back

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in 2019 over close ties to a 
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terrorism cell. 
Authorities feared he was 

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accessing extremist material 
online and speaking with other 

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radicalised men, but an 
assessment was made that there 

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was no indication of any ongoing
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in violence. 
Counterterrorism police believed

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the gunman pledged allegiance to
the ISIS terrorist group. 

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Prior to carrying out the 
attack. 2 Black and white ISIS 

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flags were discussed covered in 
the attacker's car, according to

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a senior official. 
They always got the flag. 

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Very true again. 
But apparently I, I was actually

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told by a friend in Sydney that 
there are takfiri enclaves where

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they actually sell Al Qaeda and 
ISIS flags in the marketplaces 

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though. 
So not so unusual, but the fact 

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that they're now trying to tie 
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To ISIS, while of course both 
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ISIS in Syria to overthrow the 
former government. 

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Then we come on to this now very
famous selfie taken by Arsene 

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Otrovsky, who after being shot 
and wounded in the head, managed

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to take a selfie and also then 
when he'd been bandaged up, 

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managed to give very, very 
lengthy interviews to the media 

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that were actually present. 
Who is Arsene Otrovsky? 

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We'll come on to a little report
by Niko House again that he put 

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out yesterday. 
But in fact, he's basically at 

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the Majev Institute for National
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What does this translate as? 
He's in charge of running the 

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propaganda for the Zionist 
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October the 7th. 
So let's just play this part of 

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the report by Nico House again. 
You can find the whole report in

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the show notes. 
So you're trying to tell me that

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one of the victims who was shot 
at the Bondi Beach shooting is 

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one of Israel's top 
propagandists who just so 

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happened to be there and October
7th and survive them both? 

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Meet Arsene Ostrovsky, a lawyer 
who resides in both Australia 

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and in Israel, who just so 
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Beach shooting and was shot in 
the head but managed to survive 

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his wounds. 
Now I need you all to 

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understand, this guy is one of 
Israel's top propagandists. 

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It is literally his job to go 
after any and everybody who 

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criticises Israel. 
And it would be one thing if he 

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was a top Israeli propagandist, 
it was at October 7th and mad to

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survive. 
And another thing if he was a 

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top Israeli propagandist, was 
shot in the head at Bondi Beach 

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and was only there and managed 
to survive. 

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But when you are at both and you
managed to survive both and your

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first instinct is to stop, drop 
and take a selfie after 

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allegedly being shot in the 
head. 

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Yeah, you're going to get some 
side eyes. 

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Deservedly so. 
Well, I mean, I mean it's a 

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valid point. 
As I said, all of these are 

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valid points and I'm sure over 
time we are going to get a lot 

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more clarity. 
This is an article that was 

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written by Nate Bear at 
Substack. 

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He calls it terror on the beach 
and I actually opened it 

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assuming he would be talking 
about the Bondi event. 

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In fact, what he's looking at is
the fact that of course the 

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Zionists have conducted multiple
massacres on the beaches of 

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Gaza. 
He he lists them all. 

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This is just one section. 
In June last year, Israel bombed

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the tents of display displaced 
people on the Gaza beach. 

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Fishermen have regularly been 
fired at. 

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Israeli soldiers film themselves
enjoying firing water shells at 

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people on the beach. 
August last year, Israeli 

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gunships once again opened fire 
on the tents of displaced 

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Palestinians, killing and 
wounding. 

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August this year, Israel bombed 
a tent on the beach in Gaza 

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which had been turned into a 
makeshift cafe. 

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Killing for the cafe attack came
after the far more deadly cafe 

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attack just a few weeks earlier 
in late June, which targeted the

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popular Albaca cafeteria and 
killed 39 people, including a 

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one year old girl and numerous 
journalist. 

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So of course he's making the 
point that there is a degree of 

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hierarchalization of victimhood 
and we're seeing it again with 

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the Bondi Beach event. 
He then does also go on to 

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identify one of the victims, 
Rabbi Eli Schlanger, who's also 

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again, very well known. 
This is from his Instagram page 

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where he's basically celebrating
with the genocidal about Zionist

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forces. 
And this is a video from him 

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inside the occupied territories 
talking or or rather channelling

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Zionist policy. 
So let's just hear this. 

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Friends, ladies and gentlemen, I
am here at the Malpesa 

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Chalamdina, which means the 
porch of the country. 

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It's an unbelievable place. 
It's a very, very High Peak, and

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from here you can see half the 
country. 

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Unbelievable place. 
Can you imagine? 

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If. 
This was in the hands of the 

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Arabs. 
This is right in the heart of 

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the West Bank. 
This is why this needs to be in 

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the hands of the Jewish people, 
because of its security and 

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obviously the obvious. 
Because it belongs to us, 

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because our land. 
I'm standing over here with a 

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beautiful, beautiful Khayal 
soldier man who has left his 

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family to be able to protect 
this village at this very very. 

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Heightened. 
Moment. 

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What's your name? 
And my name is Dolev. 

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Dolev and Dolev, on behalf of 
the entire village over here, 

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has received a very, very 
sizeable donate. 

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So he was obviously very in 
support of of the genocide 

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that's ongoing in Palestine. 
The Shabbat movement in Bondi 

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also was responsible for raising
funds for the IOF since October 

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the 7th. 
And Nate Bear actually pointed 

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out again, I think it's a very 
valid point, he said. 

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Actually, rather than being 
dead, these people should be in 

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The Hague. 
They should be prosecuted for 

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having raised money to support a
genocidal entity while it's 

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slaughtering and exterminating 
Palestinians for the last 100 

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years, but of course intensified
since October the 7th. 

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And then of course, we have to 
also look, this is another 

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potential lead to it being a 
false flag. 

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Almost immediately there were 
claims from Israeli media that 

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Iran could potentially be 
responsible for the Bondi attack

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or agents of Iran. 
Of course, that's been slightly 

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mudded by them having ISIS 
affiliations. 

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And Hezbollah was also mentioned
at some point in the Israeli 

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media. 
And this report in Jerusalem 

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Post is claiming that should 
Israel respond, if Iran was 

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behind the attacks, then it 
would be supported by the United

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States. 
So, ongoing narratives to watch 

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for here. 
But clearly not all is as it 

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seems. 
Thank you for that, Vanessa. 

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Any thoughts? 
Well, I mean the, the other 

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element to it obviously being 
manipulated in Australia, it was

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the the proposals for gun 
control either across the whole 

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country or or by sort of state. 
So it'd be interesting to see 

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which direction that goes in and
whether there's going to be a 

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knock on effect in other places 
because of that. 

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Yes, OK, let's move on then. 
If you like what the UK column 

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If you are a member, we want to 
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Or if you've made a donation. 

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But if you're not, please have a
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Now tonight at 7:00 PM, Jeremy 
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on the incoming global 
catastrophe. 

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So that's at 7. 
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Work Paul, about China's trade 
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dollars, allegedly. 
So watch that at 9 yesterday. 

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Charles, you were speaking to 
Chris Coverdale. 

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Yeah, indeed, this second 
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taxation and how it shouldn't be
done because it's used to fund 

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00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,720
wars. 
And this is essentially the same

461
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,320
theme but with a with more of a 
corporate focus and what people 

462
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,440
can do when they're working 
within organisations. 

463
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,600
OK, now next on Friday is our 
last UK column, News of the 

464
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,840
Year, and we'll be doing our 
usual end of year roundup while 

465
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,880
we're off on the Christmas break
at 1:00 PM. 

466
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,920
Most days there'll be some 
content going out and most of it

467
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,240
will be the presentations from 
the Cheltenham event that we 

468
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,600
held earlier this year. 
So Catherine Gunn, Alex 

469
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,920
Thompson, Patrick Henningson, 
Raja Mayor Brian Gerrish and 

470
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:32,160
also the the panel discussion 
that UK column members had the 

471
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,600
Q&A that will those will all go 
out at 1:00 PM on most days. 

472
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:39,200
Obviously, we're not putting out
a thing out on Christmas Day, 

473
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,520
Boxing Day and so on, but join 
us at 1:00 PM for those if you 

474
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,200
possibly can. 
OK, Charles, let's move on then 

475
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,800
to the question of Freemasonry 
and the police. 

476
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,960
Yes, the Metropolitan Police 
Service has finally kicked the 

477
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,720
hornet's nest and they put out 
an announcement saying that they

478
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:01,640
have changed the conditions 
under which people are regarded 

479
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,440
when they have membership of 
what's described as a 

480
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,360
hierarchical organisation. 
So hierarchical organisations 

481
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:13,000
added to declarable association 
policy and they said 

482
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,760
specifically the move follows a 
consultation of officers and 

483
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,240
staff which showed 2/3 of those 
who responded felt membership of

484
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,400
such organisations effects 
perception of police, 

485
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:28,000
impartiality and public trust. 
Now they went on saying that 

486
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,720
officers and staff are now 
required to declare a 

487
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,640
membership, past or present, of 
any potentially influential 

488
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,560
organisation that is 
hierarchical as confidential 

489
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,800
membership and requires members 
to support and protect each 

490
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,120
other. 
Now, that was 1 one of the 

491
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,640
particular thorns that the 
United Grand Lodge of England 

492
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,080
has taken with the Metropolitan 
Police Service, as well as the 

493
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,120
percentage of Metropolitan 
Police staff that actually took 

494
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,160
part in the survey. 
That's effectively delivered 

495
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,960
this result because it was only 
about 5% of the total. 

496
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,680
However, the point about public 
perception is one that we'll 

497
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,000
come back to now. 
This changes the situation 

498
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,400
somewhat according to how it is 
at the moment. 

499
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:12,040
The College of Police Vetting 
Code of Practise gives a number 

500
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,480
of reasons why people might be 
ineligible for joining the 

501
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,360
police, and that relates to 
connections to criminals or 

502
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,200
criminal activity posing risks 
to the public and those who are 

503
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,840
vulnerable have a demonstrable 
lack of honesty and so forth. 

504
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,560
Now the suggestion here is not 
that membership of the Masons 

505
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,640
would actually preclude one from
being a member of the 

506
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,760
Metropolitan Police Service, but
rather that it's just something 

507
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,280
that needs to be declared. 
Now. 

508
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,840
On the 11th of December, the 
United Grand Lodge put out a 

509
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,240
statement entitled Metropolitan 
Police Update in which they 

510
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,080
critically say we are 
disappointed that a decision 

511
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,200
which potentially effects our 
members has been taken without 

512
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,200
open or effective consultation. 
Now it might be seen that what 

513
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,440
they're doing there is 
effectively giving a tacit 

514
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,640
admission that they do have 
undue influence or indeed 

515
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,720
certainly that they want to as 
part of this process, presumably

516
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,920
to overturn it and make sure 
that doesn't happen. 

517
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,160
Now, if they're talking about 
having their members affected by

518
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,520
this, how do they mean? 
I mean, you know that the the 

519
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,920
point of this is purely a 
declaration that you are a 

520
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,080
member of such an an 
organisation and and nothing 

521
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,520
beyond that. 
Anyway, the the level of their 

522
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,360
dissatisfaction has gone further
and just today they've announced

523
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,880
that they are going to launch 
legal action against the 

524
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,000
Metropolitan Police and they say
that they've made their concerns

525
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,720
clear and that the requirement 
has the potential to undermine 

526
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,880
public credibility of Freemasons
and could impact negatively on 

527
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,000
its members. 
So the same line in effect about

528
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,840
the priority going to the 
members of Masonic lodges rather

529
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,600
than to the public and not 
undermining the credibility of 

530
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:02,120
the police by having among their
number people who do have 

531
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,520
conflicts of interest or at 
least potential conflicts of 

532
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,920
interest. 
The Federation, effectively the 

533
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,040
Union, has come out and issued a
short statement in which they 

534
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,760
say that this is unnecessary and
wrong, so don't. 

535
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,400
This is going to be quite a bit 
more back and forth on this 

536
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,200
particular issue. 
Thanks, Charles. 

537
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:23,400
Now let's, well, let's again, I 
want to introduce everyone to 

538
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,640
this company, Zivr. 
This is the secure 

539
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,000
communications company, they 
say. 

540
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,880
Zivr was founded in 2015 in 
Amsterdam in the Netherlands and

541
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,760
they raised $32.2 million in 
funding from investors, 

542
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,840
including DM Capital and Dawn 
Capital. 

543
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,320
They currently employ around 130
staff with offices in Amsterdam,

544
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,720
London and New York and provide 
secure communications for 11,000

545
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,440
organisations. 
That's what they say, but as 

546
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:57,080
their announcement banner at the
top of their website shows, they

547
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,320
have just been acquired by Kite 
Networks. 

548
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,640
Sorry, Kite works, sorry, and 
we'll come on to that. 

549
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,040
Come back to that in a second. 
Zipper provides cloud based 

550
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,360
secure communications solutions 
specialising in encrypted email,

551
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:16,160
file transfer and E signatures, 
and they market themselves as a 

552
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,720
European alternative with quotes
Zero knowledge 0 access 

553
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,560
encryption and they're saying 
that neither Zivr nor cloud 

554
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:29,120
providers could access customer 
data, which is apparently not 

555
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,240
the case. 
In fact, because content is not 

556
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:38,360
encrypted on the user's computer
in all situations, it is 

557
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,280
encrypted on Zivr servers in 
some situations. 

558
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,520
So Zivr can read the data before
it's transmitted to its 

559
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,920
destination. 
Now this report on screen at the

560
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,720
moment sites the news website 
follow the money, which is a 

561
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,000
Dutch news website, and also 
sites independent security 

562
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:59,320
analysts who discovered the data
centre servers are sent in the 

563
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,360
clear before being encrypted. 
Now, the headline implies this 

564
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,640
is a problem because of the 
acquisition by Kiteworks. 

565
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,800
And so the question is then, why
would that be? 

566
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:13,040
Well, it's because Kiteworks is 
yet another of these is really 

567
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,920
Unit 8200 founded tech 
companies, Well, actually not 

568
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,040
founded, but at least run by 
hoovering up bulk data from, 

569
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,480
well, WHO, including health 
data. 

570
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,800
So their chief executive then is
Jonathan Yaron. 

571
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,360
He has a background in Unit 
8200. 

572
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,880
He was appointed to the board in
2016. 

573
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,000
He later became chairman and 
chief executive. 

574
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:38,880
He recruited Yaron Gallant, 
we'll see in a second, also a 

575
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:44,840
Unit 8200 graduate, the chief 
product officer is Ahmed Turin 

576
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,840
that we could see on screen. 
At the moment, he is department 

577
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:54,400
head at Israel Defence Forces 
Intelligence Unit 8200, where he

578
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,240
founded and LED a special data 
analytics team that received the

579
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:01,840
Israeli Defence Prize. 
And we just mentioned Yaron 

580
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,600
Gallant here. 
He is described as an 8200 

581
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,480
graduate and inventor of the web
application firewall. 

582
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,680
He was appointed chief product 
officer at Kiteworks. 

583
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,920
And then on top of that, we've 
got other Israeli executives 

584
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,000
working for the company, 
including Ron Margalit, who 

585
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,440
worked at Unity 200 before 
serving in the office of Israeli

586
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:25,880
Prime Minister Benji Netanyahu. 
And mergers and acquisitions 

587
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,120
director Yuri Kadem is a former 
Israeli naval captain. 

588
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:34,760
So lots of links to Israeli 
intelligence and the IDF in 

589
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,920
this. 
And yet, despite these concerns,

590
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,080
multiple NHS trusts and European
government agencies continue to 

591
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,160
use ever though they were 
originally attracted to it 

592
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,160
specifically because it was 
European owned. 

593
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,880
And this idea of data 
sovereignty in Europe, in the UK

594
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,960
publicly, we know about West 
Sussex NHS Foundation Trust and 

595
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:01,480
and a whole host of others 
because in fact, the NHS mail 

596
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,880
system is connected up to this 
infrastructure as well. 

597
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,960
I'm just going to say, you know,
although Kiteworks is AUS 

598
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:12,720
company now, it is run by these 
guys. 

599
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:19,520
This data export from the UK to 
the United States was really 

600
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,840
enabled by this legislation, the
Data Use and Access Act that we 

601
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,480
were warning about well before 
it ever became formal 

602
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,480
legislation. 
And this is enabling a lot of 

603
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,640
the bulk data collection 
surveillance that we're seeing 

604
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,480
at the moment and the export of 
that to the United States, 

605
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,400
where, of course, it falls into 
the hands of not only Israeli 

606
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,440
intelligence, but also the AI 
companies. 

607
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,280
So we should be absolutely 
paying attention to what's going

608
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,480
on here. 
We should. 

609
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,880
I mean, I think, you know, 
interesting to have the sort of 

610
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,040
reference to data sovereignty, 
which effectively as a concept 

611
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,040
is made to be utterly laughable 
in so many ways. 

612
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,000
I mean either by people who we 
might regard as bad actors, or 

613
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,040
by corporations or states who 
simply want to do what they 

614
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,960
like. 
Yes, we'll undoubtedly discuss 

615
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,000
that more during Extra Mark. 
Let me welcome you to the 

616
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,600
programme now and bring us up to
date on what's going on with the

617
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,720
childhood vaccination schedule 
in the United States. 

618
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,520
Good to be back, ladies and 
gentlemen and everyone at UK 

619
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,360
column after some domestic and 
holiday related breaks there. 

620
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,040
Interesting thing, it's kind of 
a scalpel here. 

621
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,160
You might say something very 
precise. 

622
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:38,640
RFK and the HHS have made the 
recommendation, a vote in fact, 

623
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,840
by the vaccine advisory 
committee, to end the 

624
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,280
requirement that all babies at 
birth should get the hepatitis B

625
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,960
vaccine. 
It might not sound like much, 

626
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,080
but the critics of RFK and the 
vaccine industry and the mass 

627
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,840
media cartel that's basically in
the thrall of Big Pharma are all

628
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,960
screaming to high heavens. 
They're saying this is terrible.

629
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,560
What it is, is for 30 years, the
hep. 

630
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,400
Hep the B vaccine was required 
for all newborn babies, no 

631
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,520
matter what their condition or 
the condition of the mother. 

632
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,760
Now this this gets rid of the 
universal requirement. 

633
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:22,040
Now the Hep B shot will only be 
limited to those mothers that 

634
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,160
test positive for hepatitis B, 
but even then I believe they'll 

635
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,720
still be some room for choice, 
but it basically makes more room

636
00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:33,800
for for choice and informed 
consent, which in principle is 

637
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,520
very important. 
This slide mentions some of the 

638
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,840
background of the CDC's advisory
committee voted to change the 

639
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,040
hepatitis B birth dose 
recommendation, moving towards 

640
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,440
individual decisions for infants
of negative testing mothers. 

641
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,000
The vaccine sceptical groups 
have been pushing for this shift

642
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,560
away from the universal birth 
dose mandate, although 

643
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,120
paediatric groups strongly 
disagree. 

644
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,120
So there's a lot of pushback 
going on, and some of that 

645
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,560
pushback is from a usual source 
here. 

646
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,600
This is from the University of 
Minnesota. 

647
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,920
And the paediatricians, at least
some of them are rebelling, 

648
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,720
outright rebelling. 
Paediatricians reject the CDC 

649
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:18,840
advisor's guidance and they plan
to continue vaccinating all 

650
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,720
newborns against TAP B. 
So they're really pushing back 

651
00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:23,800
hard. 
Many healthcare providers, 

652
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,080
including doctors, medical 
societies, state health 

653
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,400
departments, etcetera, are 
rejecting what they're calling 

654
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,680
unscientific vaccine 
recommendations from an 

655
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:38,120
influential federal advisory 
panel and will instead continue 

656
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,600
following guidance from the 
American Academy of Paediatrics.

657
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,720
So it's kind of a turf war going
on here. 

658
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,200
And this is just some of the 
responses of the media. 

659
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,800
The nation is sort of a centre 
left, a publication. 

660
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,600
They're, they're really making 
their views known. 

661
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,360
RFK Junior is a public health 
disaster. 

662
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,760
They're even going so far as to 
say, but local Maha laws may be 

663
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,920
an even bigger threat. 
And what they're talking about 

664
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,880
there is the Make America 
Healthy Again recommendations to

665
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,480
reduce fluoride or eliminate 
fluoride in public water 

666
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,960
supplies. 
So they're not just criticising 

667
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,560
RFK along vaccine lines. 
Meanwhile, we have something 

668
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,040
that you're not hearing much 
about, and that's an impeachment

669
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,000
effort out of Michigan. 
And this is Haley Stevens, a 

670
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,560
pretty new member of Congress. 
As of the 10th of December, 

671
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,640
Michigan Congresswoman Haley 
Stevens formally announced 

672
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,840
articles of impeachment against 
RFK, Secretary of the Health and

673
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,920
Human Services Department, 
citing what she calls his 

674
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,040
dangerous actions that have 
endangered public health and 

675
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,360
gutted life saving medical 
research. 

676
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:50,880
And we have a quote from her. 
Senator RFK has, excuse me, 

677
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,160
Secretary RFK Junior has turned 
his back on science, on public 

678
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,360
health and on the American 
people. 

679
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,320
A bit of hyperbole here, 
spreading conspiracies and lies,

680
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,200
driving up costs and putting 
lives at risk. 

681
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,720
And it definitely sounds like 
she's overstating the case. 

682
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:13,200
It's also interesting to note 
that there is a long way to go 

683
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,240
the the age. 
The age requirements from birth 

684
00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:20,840
to age 6 include hepatitis, 
BRSV, diphtheria, tetanus, 

685
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:26,560
whooping cough, polio, COVID, 
flu, measles, MMR, chicken pox, 

686
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,600
and hepatitis A. 
And that's the myriad of 

687
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,360
vaccines that are required for 
age 0 to 6. 

688
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,840
So there is a long way to go, 
but many are seeing this as a 

689
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,720
good step forward for informed 
consent. 

690
00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:41,800
Although there's much more that 
could be done. 

691
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,320
And I can extrapolate a little 
more on this an extra if you'd 

692
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,880
like, but a lot of people aren't
hearing about the impeachment 

693
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,000
effort. 
I'm putting it all together 

694
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,080
where most of the media reports 
this in a very fragmented way. 

695
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,480
But that's the latest, and we'll
see how this develops as this 

696
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,920
year ends. 
Thank you, Mark. 

697
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:01,800
Thanks very much for that, 
Vanessa. 

698
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,440
Let's move back to the Middle 
East then. 

699
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:11,000
And of course recently the 
attack on U.S. military there by

700
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,560
ISIS. 
Yes, I would argue, I think it's

701
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:20,560
the first attack by by ISIS 
against U.S. military and the 

702
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,640
only time that ISIS attacked 
Israel, they actually apologised

703
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:29,040
for it to Israel back in 2017. 
So people should pay attention 

704
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,080
to that when when the US and 
Trump in particular is claiming 

705
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,360
that he's he's in Syria to fight
against ISIS. 

706
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:41,440
Of course, ISIS is another proxy
of the US that has been used to 

707
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,200
overthrow the former Syrian 
government and to destabilise 

708
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:50,280
Iraq also. 
So on the 15th of December, 

709
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,640
three Americans were killed in 
Syria, in Palmyra. 

710
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,600
And I'll show that on the map in
a second by ISIS. 

711
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,840
And ISIS terrorists were members
of the Iowa National Guard. 

712
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,040
So that was two of the three 
Americans killed. 

713
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,960
Let's have a look. 
Actually where the attack took 

714
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,160
place. 
It was in really central, can't 

715
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,920
be any more central than that. 
In Palmyra, which actually 

716
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:20,400
traditionally was an ISIS held 
area just before the fall of 

717
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,360
Damascus, the Syrian Arab Army 
had been running a campaign in 

718
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,560
exactly that area to try and 
clean out the the ISIS terrorist

719
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,280
cells that was still operating 
there and that had conducted 

720
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,400
attacks against the Syrian Army 
and and which led to massacres 

721
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,040
of the Syrian Arab Army 
personnel. 

722
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,560
At that time. 
Pete Hagseth went on X in his 

723
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,040
usual rational way. 
The savage who perpetrated this 

724
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,960
attack was killed by partner 
forces. 

725
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,680
Let it be known, if you target 
Americans anywhere in the world,

726
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,080
this is obviously come from AI. 
You will spend the rest of your 

727
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,560
brief, anxious life knowing that
the United States will hunt you,

728
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,480
find you, and ruthlessly kill 
you. 

729
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,520
So, again, demonstrating that 
he's perfectly of sound mind 

730
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,920
when he's putting posts on X. 
This was from Ambassador Tom 

731
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,800
Barrack, Trump's hitman, 
economic hitman in the region, 

732
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,520
strongly condemning the cowardly
terrorist ambush targeting a 

733
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,760
joint US Syrian government 
patrol. 

734
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,240
They had been warned of the 
potential for attack. 

735
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:26,120
No one had taken any notice of 
it. 

736
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:31,080
And then a response there from 
Karim Franceski, who's a Kurdish

737
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,840
supporter. 
With respect, Ambassador, you 

738
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,760
helped legitimise A faction 
whose security apparatus is full

739
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:45,880
of recycled ISIS and Nusra, Al 
Qaeda and Syria fighters. 

740
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:52,080
You pushed to replace the SDF, 
the only force that actually 

741
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,760
broke ISIS. 
I would disagree with that with 

742
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,360
HTS, a group that absorbed them.
Now U.S. troops are dead. 

743
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:04,080
Now, he's making a valid point. 
the US actually supported ISIS 

744
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:09,520
and as President Assad said in 
one interview, if you supporting

745
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,200
terrorism is like putting a 
scorpion in your pocket, I'm 

746
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,200
paraphrasing, eventually the 
scorpion will sting you and kill

747
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,880
you. 
Now, what is particularly 

748
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,600
interesting, and there is a 
photo circulating on social 

749
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,600
media, but I can't verify it, 
but this was in Le Man today. 

750
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,440
The Syrian who killed the 
Americans was actually part of 

751
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:33,880
the security forces, so he was 
actually part of Jolani's 

752
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,720
entourage, albeit ISIS. 
But then again, this shows the 

753
00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:41,440
ridiculousness of Jolani being 
made part of the coalition 

754
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:46,040
against ISIS when the majority 
of his Takferi forces are in 

755
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,120
reality de facto ISIS. 
But then let's see what excuse 

756
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,000
Jolani and the Syrian authority 
new Syria authorities came up 

757
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,600
with. 
So basically they said, well, 

758
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,400
no, hang on, we were about to 
sack this guy. 

759
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,320
But actually we were waiting 
until Monday. 

760
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,000
This was from another report 
because Saturday is an 

761
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,560
administrative holiday. 
Well, believe that and I've got 

762
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,880
a bridge somewhere else to to 
sell you. 

763
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,760
But anyway, they were going to 
sack him just as the White 

764
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,280
Helmets were going to sack a 
White Helmet that was involved 

765
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,640
in the execution of Syrian Arab 
Army soldiers back in 2016. 

766
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,200
And then he reappeared in White 
Helmet promo videos about a 

767
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,360
month later. 
So, and you know, let's take 

768
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:34,080
that with a pinch of salt and 
then what is happening? 

769
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,760
Of course, as I said, after 
Jolani was made part of the anti

770
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:43,680
ISIS coalition, ISIS would use 
this as a very successful 

771
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:48,000
recruitment drive because the 
majority of Jolani's Takferi 

772
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,720
forces were ISIS. 
Now many of them have laughed 

773
00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:55,880
and have defected to the 
official ISIS organisation. 

774
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,440
And this was in the Syrian 
Observatory for Human Rights 

775
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,480
this morning, an alarming 
development. 

776
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:08,000
Gunmen in military uniforms with
ISIS patches established 

777
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,120
makeshift checkpoints in Aleppo 
and Derozorso in effectively the

778
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,000
north of Syria and the North 
East. 

779
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,880
And in fact, 1 of Jolani's 
security forces was killed this 

780
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:23,080
morning by an ISIS or or rather 
sorry, an unknown assailant, 

781
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,720
masked assailant. 
No guesses for who that might 

782
00:47:25,720 --> 00:47:28,520
be. 
So in my opinion, either the US 

783
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,520
is trying to stoke some kind of 
civil war between Jolani's less 

784
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:38,640
tack fury entourage against a 
newly reinforced ISIS, of course

785
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:45,000
reinforced by the US and Israel 
effectively, or the US is 

786
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:48,360
looking to carry out a bombing 
campaign on Syria on the basis 

787
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,640
that American forces are getting
killed. 

788
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,640
OK, Thank you for that. 
Thank you for that. 

789
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,400
Let's come back to the United 
Kingdom and Charles Online 

790
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,760
Safety Act. 
Obviously, the petition got 

791
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,720
quite a response. 
What happened? 

792
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,880
Well, very little unfortunately.
And as Mike says, there was a 

793
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,880
petition earlier in the year 
which attracted over half a 

794
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,360
million signatures and this was 
therefore debated in Westminster

795
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:18,360
Hall just on Monday. 
And the question to be asked is 

796
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,560
who cares that it was very, very
sparsely attended and indeed 

797
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,880
only by people who were in 
support of it. 

798
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:30,000
So it looks very much like there
was absolutely no resistance to 

799
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,720
censorship whatsoever. 
And that is in stark contrast 

800
00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:37,160
with the attendance at the 
debate into digital ID, which 

801
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,520
took place the previous week. 
Now, the debate was led by Lewis

802
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:45,040
Atkinson, and in the many 
remarks he did make was to say 

803
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,480
my only regret is that the few 
members of the House who have 

804
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,760
publicly called for outright 
repeal of the Online Safety 

805
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,560
Safety Act were not here this 
afternoon. 

806
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,800
So now how one explains that is 
not really totally clear, but 

807
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,920
we'll just show a short clip of 
Lewis Atkinson in his closing 

808
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,960
remarks, of course having had 
absolutely no pushback during 

809
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:09,720
the entire debate. 
As a result, I think it's it's 

810
00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:13,080
entirely natural that the first.
Attempt at regulation and 

811
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,960
legislation will not ever get 
everything right and will 

812
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,320
require require evolution. 
And the Online Safety Act was a 

813
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,520
landmark moment attempting to 
regulate online harms. 

814
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,040
And I think it's fair to say 
that the the consensus that 

815
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,240
we've heard today. 
Is that that needs to evolve, 

816
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,000
that we shouldn't be looking to 
repeal, but to evolve at pace 

817
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,840
and ensure implementation at 
place at pace. 

818
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,160
To ensure that we tackle those 
online and harms in a way that 

819
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,640
is consistent with our rich 
values and there's freedoms of 

820
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,560
expression and association that 
we've heard. 

821
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,120
So that's basically what the 
government are taking from that 

822
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:50,320
petition. 
They've got a couple of things 

823
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,480
wrong, but they should now 
proceed at pace. 

824
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,080
Yes, because we've got to 
accelerate everything all the 

825
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:55,840
time. 
We have. 

826
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:56,680
We do. 
Yeah. 

827
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,680
OK. 
Well, I suppose in a sense 

828
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:04,240
related to this, the Trump 
lawsuit against the BBC, which 

829
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:06,280
was, was that yesterday it was 
announced to. 

830
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,040
The way time goes, it's hard to 
say, but this is what the BBC 

831
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,880
had on on their thing. 
BBC says it will defend Trump 

832
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,160
over defamation lawsuit over 
Panorama speech Edit Well, it's 

833
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,880
not $5 billion as they, as they 
reported. 

834
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,960
There's what they said about it.
They're going to defend 

835
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,720
themselves against a $5 billion 
lawsuit. 

836
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,720
Well, before we clarify exactly 
what the amount is, let's just 

837
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,880
look at what Trump had to say. 
I'm sorry to do this, but we 

838
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,720
just thought there's certain 
comedy value in it. 

839
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,120
In a little while, you'll be 
seeing I'm suing the BBC for 

840
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,640
putting words in my mouth. 
Literally, they put words in my 

841
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,760
mouth. 
They had me saying things that I

842
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,160
never said coming out. 
I guess they used AI or 

843
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,680
something. 
So we'll be bringing that 

844
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,080
lawsuit. 
A lot of people are asking when 

845
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,440
are you bringing that lawsuit? 
Even the media can't believe 

846
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,720
that one they would. 
They actually put terrible words

847
00:50:56,720 --> 00:51:00,040
in my mouth having to do with 
January 6th that I didn't say 

848
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:04,400
and the beautiful words that I 
said, right? 

849
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:09,200
The beautiful words talking 
about patriotism and all of the 

850
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,520
good things that I said, They 
didn't say that, but they put 

851
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,360
terrible words they actually 
have me speaking with. 

852
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,320
Words that I never. 
Said And they got caught because

853
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,920
I believe somebody at BBC said 
this is so bad it has to be 

854
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,280
reported. 
Let's go fake news. 

855
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,520
So we'll be filing that soon, 
probably this afternoon or 

856
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:34,080
tomorrow morning. 
What did those three chaps do 

857
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,520
wrong to have to stand behind 
him? 

858
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,000
Well ended good question, but 
but anyway, as I say, it's not 5

859
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,120
billion because it's 10 billion.
So the the lawsuit is seeking 5 

860
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,480
billion in damages for 
defamation, sorry for defamation

861
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,720
and other and another $5 billion
under Florida's deceptive and 

862
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:54,440
unfair trade practises Act. 
So more information if we have a

863
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,560
look at this tweet here from 
Judicial Hub. 

864
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,800
And they have, I think that on 
that Twitter thread, they have 

865
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,640
links to the the actual suit 
itself. 

866
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:08,440
The BBC had, of course, as we 
reported, issued a formal 

867
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,040
apology saying that their 
editing gave the mistaken 

868
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,520
impression that President Trump 
had made a direct call for 

869
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,000
violent action. 
And they also reported that the 

870
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:23,520
Trump team never responded to 
BBC's apology, but their apology

871
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,080
sort of gave the impression that
they had created. 

872
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,240
They had created the impression 
sorry that Trump had incited 

873
00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:34,440
violence that and that that was 
unintentional on their part. 

874
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,280
Well, that has clearly hasn't 
gone down well with Trump. 

875
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:43,040
They said on the 15th, which was
Monday, We're not going to make 

876
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,280
further comment on ongoing legal
proceedings. 

877
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,280
But here's the thing. 
Also on Monday, Trump suspended 

878
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,360
the tech prosperity deal with 
the UK and what is being 

879
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:58,000
reported as a major set back. 
So if you remember, this was the

880
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:03,560
the whole business of the new 
UKUS Energy partnership powering

881
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:08,400
1.5 million British homes. 
And let's not forget Stargate UK

882
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,000
as well. 
So that has apparently been 

883
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,520
suspended as a result of the BB 
CS actions here. 

884
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,800
And I haven't really seen that 
much coverage of that particular

885
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,880
aspect of this in any of the 
British press. 

886
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,040
So I just thought best to to 
mention it. 

887
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,720
But where does that bring us 
then? 

888
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,000
Back to Mark then and sticking 
with Trump and tariffs. 

889
00:53:31,720 --> 00:53:33,760
Thanks gentlemen. 
Yeah, this is a really big 

890
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,560
issue, bigger than meets the 
eye. 

891
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:40,320
You might recall April 2nd and I
covered it some on UK column 

892
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:45,520
after that, the Trump introduced
a major tariff initiative and it

893
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:49,680
would rescue America from what 
was basically deemed as a would 

894
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:55,640
be or actual economic emergency.
And so before we talk about the 

895
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,280
Lutnick family for a moment 
before we do that, a a Supreme 

896
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,440
Court decision is hanging in the
balance. 

897
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,800
It could happen any day, 
conceivably even later today, 

898
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:09,240
probably after the new year. 
And that Supreme Court decision 

899
00:54:09,240 --> 00:54:14,480
would cancel Trump's ability to 
carry out his tariff policy 

900
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:20,520
under a emergency law in 1977. 
That's when that law was passed,

901
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,440
and that law gave Trump 
delegated authority from 

902
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:30,680
Congress to enact tariff laws on
his own as long as an emergency 

903
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,600
threshold was made. 
Otherwise, you would have to 

904
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:39,360
default to the US Constitution 
where under 1, Section 8, tariff

905
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,720
policy, trade policy is up to 
Congress and Article 1, Section 

906
00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:48,040
7 of the Constitution says that 
all bills for raising revenue 

907
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,120
shall be in the House of 
Representatives. 

908
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,880
The only way to get an exception
to that is to have a statue. 

909
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,200
That's the key here. 
Now, briefly, meanwhile, the 

910
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,080
Lutnick family, Howard Lutnick, 
of course, is the commerce 

911
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:03,520
secretary under Trump. 
They've been angling. 

912
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,160
Let's show this. 
This hasn't been reported much, 

913
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,240
only in a piece meal fashion and
not with a lot of hoopla. 

914
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,600
They're angling to make a lot of
money. 

915
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:17,480
If the court votes down Trump's 
tariff policy, the Supreme 

916
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,520
Court, what they would basically
do is they'd approach the 

917
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,760
importing companies, the ones 
that pay the brunt of the tariff

918
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,440
taxes, and they would give them 
some money and say here, take 

919
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,680
take a couple million each and 
you'll be happy. 

920
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:36,080
And in return, Howard Lutnick, 
who divested himself of this 

921
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,800
direct involvement of this, but 
his son Brandon Lutnick is is 

922
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,240
head of the company now Cantor 
Fitzgerald. 

923
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,040
So the sun has taken over 
because Howard is commerce 

924
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,160
secretary. 
But nevertheless, it's the 

925
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,680
Lutnick family anyway, they'd 
pay off the importing families. 

926
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:57,320
And then that would give the the
the Lutnick business, Cantor 

927
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:02,360
Fitzgerald rights to collect the
full payback that the Trump 

928
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:06,280
administration would have to do,
paying back the the money it had

929
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,600
collected through the tariffs. 
So the Lutnick family's business

930
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,440
here, it stands to make a 
killing if the Supreme Court 

931
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:19,320
rules against Trump's tariffs, a
very illicit and and rather, you

932
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,840
know, repellent development. 
You might say it. 

933
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,040
A lot of corruption here, a lot 
of robber Baron kind of 

934
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,680
behaviour. 
Now, let's move on real briefly.

935
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:33,760
And basically the rest is the 
Supreme Court's pending 

936
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,920
decision. 
The rest of the slides basically

937
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:41,800
outlined that. 
And this here, this slide here 

938
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,960
we can show very briefly, this 
is the main thing, the Supreme 

939
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:49,480
Court ruling on EPA, that's the 
1977 law, the International 

940
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,440
Emergency Economic Powers Act. 
That's what gives the president 

941
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,920
this exception from 
congressional power and allows 

942
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,840
him to regulate commerce during 
national emergencies. 

943
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,840
Yes, we ran huge trade deficits 
with China, China realising huge

944
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,920
record surpluses. 
That's all true. 

945
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,440
Did it ever constitute an 
economic emergency? 

946
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,760
Probably not. 
Something of a crisis, something

947
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:18,920
of a economic problem for sure. 
This is something from the 

948
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,400
Peterson Institute. 
Will the Supreme Court determine

949
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,320
the fate of Trump tariffs? 
That's something else that'll be

950
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,280
in the show notes, but that's 
sufficient for the slides. 

951
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,520
It, it boils down to this being 
a bellwether decision, guys, as 

952
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,840
to whether Trump's tariff policy
will stand. 

953
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,520
So once once these Supreme Court
makes that decision anytime now,

954
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,720
then it's just a question of 
whether Trump will appeal to 

955
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,280
other laws that are on the books
that might give him some wiggle 

956
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,240
room. 
Otherwise, he'll have to defer 

957
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,080
to Congress under the 
Constitution. 

958
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,080
So there's billions of dollars 
at stake here. 

959
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:56,160
The Lutnick family engaging in 
hanky panky like we're seeing 

960
00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:00,160
and many other matters, and 
it'll change very quickly, so 

961
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,000
we'll see what happens. 
Thanks, Mark. 

962
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,720
Thank you for that. 
Let's finish then Charles with 

963
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,200
farming. 
Yes, and via an examination of 

964
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,760
the Finance Bill, the second 
reading of which took place 

965
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,720
yesterday, and that has resulted
in two days worth of committee 

966
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,320
hearings on a number of 
provisions therein. 

967
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,480
Now, one of those is the 
proposed changes to inheritance 

968
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,600
tax for farmers and business 
owners. 

969
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:28,120
And I just have a video clip 
really to illustrate how 

970
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,320
parliamentary democracy works, 
or indeed doesn't, as expressed 

971
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,840
by comments made during a 
meeting of the Liaison Committee

972
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,160
on Monday. 
And we'll see Alan Carmichael, 

973
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,680
who's the chair of the 
Environment, Farming and Rural 

974
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,880
Affairs Committee, asking the 
Prime Minister about what would 

975
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:49,200
appear to be a vindictive attack
on smaller farms via the changes

976
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:54,960
to agricultural property relief.
It is a it's an economic reform 

977
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,520
which we took in the budget 
before last, not targeted. 

978
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:03,560
It is to adjust the rate at 
which inheritance tax is that 

979
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,680
the fact that it's paid, the 
rate at which it's paid and the 

980
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,600
period over which it is paid. 
But it's not targeted against 

981
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,360
individuals. 
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not 

982
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,720
arguing with you that there are 
therefore going to be 

983
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,560
individuals affected, as there 
are with any change in any tax 

984
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,320
regime. 
But there's a difference between

985
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:24,600
changing the tax regime and 
targeting a group of 

986
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,640
individuals. 
This is about changing the tax 

987
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,320
regime. 
The anti force stalling clause 

988
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,520
that we've spoken about traps 
farmers. 

989
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,280
And. 
Into the new rules, it doesn't 

990
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,560
allow them the same 
opportunities that other 

991
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:42,760
taxpayers will have to use tax 
planning to manage their affairs

992
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,560
in a sensible way that will 
allow the succession of family 

993
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:50,120
farms in this country. 
That doesn't make it targeted. 

994
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:54,600
It is a necessary consequence of
the decisions that we've taken. 

995
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,400
But I can assure you, as you 
would expect, the president of 

996
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,640
the NFU has raised this issue 
issue with me on more than one 

997
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,280
occasion. 
Not just the president of the 

998
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:05,680
NFU. 
Well, I appreciate that You've 

999
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,400
heard it from Kat Smith, you've 
heard it from my Select 

1000
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,960
Committee, you've heard it from 
the Welsh Affairs Select 

1001
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,880
Committee, you've heard it from 
the Northern Ireland Affairs 

1002
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,040
Committee. 
You don't. 

1003
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,640
These are all select committees,
incidentally, that have 

1004
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:22,240
majorities from the Labor Party,
and they have all produced 

1005
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,320
unanimous reports calling for 
this to be paused and rethought.

1006
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,560
You don't have to listen to me. 
You don't even have to listen to

1007
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,640
the farmers out there. 
You don't have to listen to the 

1008
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,360
president at the NFU. 
But why do you not listen to 

1009
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,520
your own party colleagues? 
I do listen to party colleagues 

1010
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,800
all the time. 
And then do what you're going to

1011
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:44,480
do anyway. 
The last word going to Alan 

1012
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,480
Carmichael. 
And it should be noted that the 

1013
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,280
projected return from changing 
this inheritance tax threshold 

1014
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:53,760
would be £500 million in the 
year, which is equivalent to 1 

1015
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,480
day's pay for the National 
Health Service. 

1016
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,720
And when we think back to what 
Blaze meant well and Richard 

1017
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,640
Knighton was saying about 
resilience and whole of society 

1018
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,160
approach, in fact it seems 
nothing more than a drive for 

1019
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,000
corporate capture and a 
deliberate destruction of of the

1020
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:13,120
establishment of certainly the 
rural economy as it stands. 

1021
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,640
There we are. 
Thank you, Charles. 

1022
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,000
Well, lots to talk about an 
extra. 

1023
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,360
We will be there in a few 
minutes. 

1024
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,880
If you are UK call members, stay
on the live stream for that, but

1025
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,240
we're going to leave it there 
for today. 

1026
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:30,040
Enjoy the rest of the day, enjoy
Germ and and Carl tonight. 

1027
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:33,480
We'll be back for news at 1:00 
PM as usual on Friday. 

1028
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:35,440
We'll see you then. 
Thanks for joining us. 

1029
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:36,160
Bye bye. 
Bye bye.