I grew up in Minnesota. They called me Nature boy as a
kid because I've always loved nature and I was a wrestler.
I wrote my goals at 19. None.
My our college wrestling coach said everybody has to write
their goals. I wrote that I wanted to be a
three time all American, a national champion.
And when the coach saw my goals, he he smirked and he said these
goals are kind of lofty, don't you think?
Well, the act of writing the goals and visualizing helped me
become a four time all American and national champion.
I then moved to Hawaii and bartended for a few years and
then I traveled to Africa and Asia and all over the world.
I met a lot of awesome people. And then I wrote my goals for
the second time. I was 29 and I wrote that I
wanted to be retired in three years.
And I got back to Minnesota broke and a guy at the bar said,
hey, Jim, you should come work for my mortgage company, which I
did. And about 3 1/2 years later, did
$1.3 billion in gross revenue and bought a boat and went to
live on the ocean to develop the Wisdom Foundation, which is
about getting good stuff taught in schools.
And I, I went up against the Board of Education and a bunch
of teachers who were upset with me for criticizing them.
And I wasn't even criticizing them.
I was simply offering something to them that had changed my
life. And then a Fast forward, I moved
to Costa Rica and that was when I learned that the world is
controlled by crazy people. And that's when I went into
scarcity. And so that led me to here,
right? People say, what got you here?
Well, quite frankly, what got me here is pain and suffering and
failure and desperation. What do you mean though by fear
and suffering and desperation and and getting you here?
Like what? What was that about?
I learned in 2007 that the way we are using our resources is
unsustainable, and all unsustainable systems fail.
And I have four daughters. And then I learned that it's not
because people are bad by our very nature.
It's because we are being led to the destruction of our natural
world by what I call evil. For lack of a better term,
everybody knows what evil means. There's a lot of different
perspectives on evil. I just call it evil.
And I went into a scarcity frame of mind because I was worried
about the future for my kids and my future grandkids.
And then I started investing everything.
I owned my energy, my time, my money into studying the problem.
And I studied the problem all day, every day, 12 hours a day,
for at least two years. And that's when I read Bill
Molson's quote. Bill Molson was the founder of
permaculture, which is all around me.
It's nature. It's modeling after what works
and designing our land to be productive and then to become
the stewards of our land. So I read his quote.
His quote was, though the problems of our world are
increasingly complex, the solutions remain embarrassingly
simple. And I started to SOB.
OK. And you are now involved with
permaculture. What is that?
Permaculture is a strategy to solve all of the world's biggest
problems. It is based on the ethics of
people care, earth care and reinvesting our surplus to
people care and earth care. And it has a set of principles
that mimic and model after what works in a natural system.
So for instance, I'm sitting here in a three-year old food
forest. Three years ago, there was
nothing around me but sand, Florida sugar sand, kind of like
what you can see on the ground right there.
That was everywhere. Now I'm surrounded by a
perennial food forest with over 280 different types of food
producing plants. And I can walk outside right now
and I can just anytime I want, I can go grab a meal for my
family. And I'm not a farmer and I never
want to be a farmer. I'm just a harvester because
we've designed our land effectively and efficiently.
Oh, OK, hold on. So permaculture is a way of
integrating everything that you are growing with the
environment, is that right? That's right.
Yep, nature, God's design, whatever perspective you want to
call it. Nature does all the work when we
design it properly. For instance, the Amazon
rainforest was a designed food forest 5000 years ago.
How does that differ then from any other type of farming?
Well, for one is we have no poisons in our system and we
have no GMO crops in our system. And that's the biggest thing is
we take the poisons out and we use plants that are made for
this zone and we have a wide diversity of plants.
So in an area this size, in a normal farm, there would be 1
crop. And that is not natural.
You cannot grow food without poisons.
When you grow food in an unnatural way, because the
locusts will come in, or the mice or the rabbits or whatever
pest that you have there, it'll come in and it'll find a feast
and then it'll have millions of babies and pretty soon you've
got a plague of locusts with no food unless you want to eat
locusts, right? This system is built on
diversity. So diversity is the foundation
of strength of the system. So right around me we have
bananas and Shia and mulberries and lychees and Longans and
guavas, and I mean, there's just infinite diversity all around
me. And bugs some, but the bug that
likes the Mulberry doesn't like the guava.
Typically when you add longevity to the idea of efficiency, it's
radically inefficient, right? So what we're doing all around
the world is we're mining our soil and we're destroying the
microbiome that literally creates the life that we live
here on Earth. So when you put these poisons
down, you might be serving that one plant for a short term, but
the nutrient density of our food has fallen off a Cliff because
now we're growing it not for nutrient density and not for
regeneration. We're growing it simply so it
looks good and it can store in transportation to get on the
shelf. So a monoculture is something
like 100 acres of corn or soy or any of these crops that are you,
you drive by and it's 1 monochromatic, one color, one
level. What I'm sitting in is a food
forest that is infinitely more productive and we don't have to
farm it, right. So everything that we've been
taught in the last several generations by the big AG
companies and the big poison producing companies who have the
marketing budget to convince us that what they're doing is
correct, everything that they're teaching is absolutely opposite
of what is functional and what works in a natural system.
And I'll go a few levels deeper here.
We have about 47,000,000 acres of lawn in the United States
alone. If we simply took half of that,
let's call it 25,000,000 acres, and we put regenerative
permaculture food systems on there, then the 890,000,000
acres of farmland that is mostly poisoned and being destroyed
would literally go back to nature because we wouldn't need
it. Yes.
But isn't the purpose of monoculture to mass produce?
It is and and it's very effective for a short term
relative to the history of life on Earth.
It's effective for several generations.
And then the whole let all the land that those crops are on is
failing and it's failing now at a rate that's exponential,
right. The crops are failing, the
nutrient density is failing. The soil is being killed in
mined which is creating dust bowls again now, right.
So the act of centralizing in fact we can look, look this up,
I believe it is the company BlackRock, which is not only the
name, it's the intention is now in control through its
investment strategy of over 90% of our food supply.
What we need to do again, and it's joyful and beneficial on
every conceivable level, is we need to become the stewards of
our land again. And doing so is not work.
It's the ultimate play. It is so joyful, this system
with the birds and the butterflies and all the life,
this system calls to me. I I wake up in the morning, I
have a coffee and I cannot wait to walk outside and see what
kind of treasures nature is giving me.
I've got a friend who is a farmer.
He he doesn't farm monoculture and he doesn't farm
permaculture. I suppose you could say he's
somewhere in between. He does a type of regenerative
farming, but he makes the same point as you.
He says that the foundation of farming is the soil.
And what we see around us in sort of big agriculture is the
destruction of the soil. It doesn't last that long.
And then then what? What do you do later?
You starve mass mass destruction of our soil, which is happening
globally is the biggest problem. Like, I mean, that's, that's the
result of the biggest problem, which is spraying the poisons.
Poisons are the biggest problem and the insane use of our
resources, which is that's it. So at the end of the day, we are
going to experience one of two things and it's happening
already very fast. We are either going to
experience a transition which must be led by the people,
individuals becoming producers as well as consumers, or we are
going to experience collapse. Transition is beautiful, it's
joyful, it promotes health and Wellness and regeneration.
Collapse could mean the death of billions of people worldwide.
If I go past a huge farm, as you talk about the monoculture, you
don't see any animal life or bird life or anything.
It's almost like a desert. Yeah.
You're absolutely right. These are biological death
zones. In a typical forest, you have
layers of life, right? You've got the the roots and
tubers that are under the soil and you've got your herbaceous
layer, a lot of mushrooms and medicinal plants, especially
right here. And then you've got your shrubs
and your your shorter shrubs and bushes and your understory trees
and your overstory trees. And then you've got your vines
going up them, right? In a monoculture system, you
have one layer of food typically.
And by the way, your friend that does the regenerative farming,
anything that's regenerative falls under the general idea of
permanent culture. What we're advocating and
demonstrating is stewardship is the joy and the stacking of
functionality, the benefits of becoming stewards of our land,
and that ultimately that's how we change the world.
And that's what it used to be for the history of humanity.
The indigenous people were the stewards of the land, right?
It's biblical, it's logical, it's scientific.
So we're talking about going away from the 1000 acre farms
and going back to the quarter acre farm, right, which is
normal by the way, still in Costa Rica and Nicaragua and all
the I was just in Mexico and I was driving down, we're driving
down the road and right in, right in the heart of town and
there was mango trees that had a / 1000 mangoes.
There is tamarind trees and guava trees and coconut trees.
There was food everywhere in Ziwatneo, Exapa, Mexico, and
that's logical. That's so normal.
Let's take out the ornamental plants and put plants in that
you can eat from when you're walking down the road.
It does make sense because if you decentralize the growing of
food like that, you still end up with enough food.
Yes, so much more than enough. Probably 90% of the food that's
growing here goes right back into the soil because we don't
need it. All right, The just the sweet
potatoes, We've harvested maybe two 300 lbs of sweet potatoes.
I am certain that we're growing two or three tons of sweet
potatoes. So what we're doing, we had an
event across the street from us is the sheriff's station.
It's funny because everything we're doing is illegal but
lawful. And across the street is the
sheriff's training center. They had a big sheriff's
convention. And I filled up a wheelbarrow
full of sweet potatoes and sweet potato starts.
And I put it on film and I walked over and I said, hey,
sheriffs, you want to reduce crime, right?
Isn't that your job as a sheriff to reduce crime?
Well here start handing out sweet potato starts to all of
your community and get your officers to start planting sweet
potatoes and different things in parks and on common area.
When all of our neighbors kids have food then we have a lot
less crime. What do you mean by illegal but
lawful? So I have learned quite a while
back that the government does not hold any moral authority
over me. And so I built our family
homestead without asking for permission.
We built our home without getting building permission.
We publicly will not pay taxes on land or labor by the threat
of violence. Instead, we will voluntarily
serve our community. So we actually are working with
the local pastor and the pastor invited us in and we gave sweet
potato starts to like 100 families on a Sunday morning.
And now those hundred families, it's the whole teach them the
fish principle. Now they're growing food.
And So what we're doing here and we're inviting and creating the
network for this to happen globally is we're creating a
local food secure community, right?
And that's it's all about you cannot hide from what's
happening. So the most important thing now
that we are more than food secure is making sure our
neighbors kids are food secure and our neighbors and our
community is food secure. Then, if we do have a collapse,
at least we've got our foundation of food security
covered. But it's such a great catch 22
for for law enforcement. They'll come to your property
and they'll accuse you of your crime and you go, well, what,
what have I done wrong? And they'll, they'll, they'll
look at you and they go, well, you, you, you're giving people
healthy food. That's your part.
It was. So we had a government agent
come here about 19 months ago and he shows up and I get the
call and he's at in front of my family homestead, right?
And we, we put it all in. I mean, we're 100% committed to
this for a lot of logical reasons that I can get into.
But we, I got the word that the government agent was here and I
had a wave of adrenaline go through my body, right?
I had goose. I'm like, oh, gosh, OK, here we
go. I've been waiting for this for
about two years at that point. And I walked over to him and I
turned on my phone and I walked up and I said, hello, my name is
Jim Gale, and I'm recording this conversation so we don't mix up
any words here. And he said, hi, my name's
Alexi. I said, well, it's nice to meet
you, Alexi, but how did you get permission to come on my land?
Implied consent is not granted and it's posted.
And I expected him to say I'm from the government and I have
the right to be here, which is both legally and lawfully not
true according to case law. But he didn't say that.
He said, I'm sorry, the gate was open.
So I came in, but I will leave if you want me to.
Isn't that awesome? So.
I said, well, maybe, But before you leave, can I show you
something? Because we we don't want to
fight anybody. We don't want to fight the
existing reality. We want to build the new model.
We have built the new model, which is not really new.
It's the oldest model in the book.
But I said, can I show you what we're doing?
So we walked over into the food forest and I said it is our duty
to be the protectors of this land, to be the stewards, and
what your agency will represent is the death of our world,
right? And he had this little clipboard
with a paper with checkmarks. And I said that little batch of
checkmarks represents every HOA community that you have approved
up and down the road where you took a forest, you cut it all
down, you built a parking lot and you put grass and there's no
life. There's no birds or bees,
there's no songs. There's no life and food in
these communities. The people are suffering and the
land is suffering. And he got tears in his eyes.
He said, you're right, I will never bother you again.
And they have not been back. I remembered Jim a few years ago
when you, when you're not chatted for the first time, you
sent me photographs of what that area behind you looked like and
it it legit was sand. Yeah, Yep, it was.
But do you need a skill set? Do you?
Do you need to study farming? Yeah.
So, you know, it's funny. I was just walking through the
property and I found this fruit today, and I have no idea what
this is, right? It tastes kind of good.
I don't know shit relative to what there is to know, right?
What I do know is that taking action is the first step, right?
And the first action is an internal action.
It's an action of awareness. It's an action going from fear
of what they'll do to me, going from fear of all the negatives,
letting go of that fear and stepping into faith, stepping
into the knowing that it's time to do what's right and now not
be dictated by the slave master and, and evil and in all this
negative force and violence. And that's what we're doing.
In fact, look at that. I just squeezed this thing and a
seed came out, right? You can count the seeds in this
fruit, but you cannot count the fruits in the seed.
It's an exponential free energy system in my hand right here.
But you have a large tract of land there.
Can people in the cities do something similar?
So a fellow named Eric Heinzelman just moved here to
Golf Landing and he's now our chef.
He was the head chef at corporate Planet Hollywood.
He opened up 37 restaurants. He was the top of his chef
school and he was sick as hell living in that corporate
environment. He almost died.
He lost 120 lbs and now he's working for Planet Earth.
And the reason I bring him up is because he had a 2 bedroom condo
and he started with a one bedroom condo but then he did
the numbers and he said I'm going to get a 2 bedroom condo
and he started growing mushrooms and microgreens in his second
bedroom and bathroom. He then and he by the way was
growing almost 10,000 bucks a month worth of microgreens and
mushrooms out of a bedroom. Then on his 8 by 10 foot deck he
had another like 22 different types of food producing plants.
In fact, we're working with two homeless people that we've given
them sweet potato starts and they have taken those sweet
potato starts and planted them around their homeless
encampments. We are working with a military
really epic guy who was nominated for a Silver Star and
he's taking sweet potatoes and his favorite Jerusalem
artichokes and he's planting them at the rest areas along
I-75 S. Anybody can do this.
It just starts with the awareness that you can grow in
your closet, you can grow on a deck, you can grow in your
living room. It's just a matter of start
planting seeds. So it's a philosophy more than a
skill. It's a philosophy.
Get started and the plants become our teachers by observing
and interacting with the plants, you will learn.
And then here's the best part. We now have multiple layers of
support systems. We we just launched Origins
reclaimed.org, where it's a nonprofit where we have a bunch
of professional freedom loving, solution oriented people that
are coming together in a community to answer people's
questions to like somebody could take a picture of this Mulberry
tree and say, what's going on with the Mulberry tree?
All right, so I'll show you. So do you see those yellow
leaves? Yes.
So we are going through a significant drought here in
Florida and at the same time we had our irrigation system there.
We we had the, we switched inverters and our irrigation
system failed. So normally we wouldn't need to
manage any of this stuff. The natural weather patterns
would do it. But now for the for the next
week, because it's a drought, we got to take a bucket a gallon of
water once a week and put it on the base of this tree.
And so you could take a picture of this and say, what's the
problem with this Mulberry? You can post it online and
you'll have a dozen answers on how to help help the Mulberry.
So there's solutions everywhere. But I mean, it's not just about
randomly throwing seeds all over the place.
There is a bit of an art, isn't there?
Yes, it's a science because some plants go very well together and
other plants don't, right? So this Mulberry tree could get
100 feet tall, right? We don't want that next to a
bunch of other trees that can get really big.
Instead, we want this Mulberry next to what we call understory
trees. Understory trees like to be in
the shade, the Mulberry likes to be in the sun.
So it's really important that you plant plants where they're
best suited. Jim, what about animals?
You're you're only talking about plants.
So we have 11 cows. We just had four babies.
We have turkeys and ducks and chickens.
The chickens are the Swiss Army knife of the permaculture
system. They have so many functions.
And of course the main function is eggs and meat.
And we're now incubating and, and take getting our own baby
chickens. Oh, and check this out Eric just
built. He's one of these mad geniuses.
He built the mushroom growing facility here out of a trucking
trailer and he just built. He went to Home Depot or Lowe's
and he got some plastic totes. He then stopped at the local
coffee store and got their leftover coffee grinds which
they happily gave him. And then we mix compost with
that are like compost from our kitchen and he made a soldier
fly larvae production system for 20 bucks and that soldier fly
larvae we dump our compost in there and that will feed 50
chickens. But now are your chickens free
range? Somewhat.
We they're free range. We keep them in at night because
we lost a few to coyotes not too long ago and some other
creature, probably a raccoon or a possum.
So we do deal with normal natural stuff.
You just have to have the right cages and the right protection
or you have to create the right chicken environment.
Like the best chicken environment is a is a tree or a
tree skeleton where the chickens can jump up and they can go on
some of the branches that are out of the way of the predators.
Right. So again, it's about trying to
integrate to the natural environment.
But I mean, there are obvious boundary lines you have to draw
somewhere. Like for example, if you have
cattle, they're not going to just roam freely in between your
your your your, your food, your your plants.
It's it's funny you say that. This morning I woke up, I went
to the house and I was on the deck and I looked down and the
cows were eating the banana right behind me.
They got out of the dark pasture.
So yes, that happens. I, I, we, we ran up.
We herded them back right into the gate, and they're back in.
But this is life. This is freedom.
Ultimately. This is the ultimate freedom,
freedom of mind, freedom of body and freedom on the land.
And then, yeah, my job is once in a while to herd cattle, and
I've never done that before. I got to tell you, it's a lot of
fun. A little freaky, but it's a lot
of fun. Again, what we're teaching and
demonstrating is how everybody used to live forever until just
lately, right? And then we've been programmed
into the belief system that we should just be consumers and
that poisons are good and that, you know, the government will
take care of us. Well, how have they done so far?
An interesting comparison is with monoculture agriculture,
there's a lot of wastage. With permaculture, there's very
little wastage. There's no waste in a natural
system. Everything gets reused, right?
So these leaves come down on the ground and there's a lot of
plants like these. Pigeon pea over here.
We planted them specifically to produce nitrogen in the soil.
They're also really good to eat and they also look beautiful,
but their primary function is to build life and nitrogen back in
the soil. But what about obvious issues
like, I don't know, moles and insects that destroy some of
your fruit and so on? Yeah.
So in the diverse system that we have, and that is permaculture,
we have all of it, but none of it is getting away from us.
In fact, we have let go ladybugs and praying mantis and one other
type of insect that I can't remember the name of.
We've let them go. In our system.
We even were planning to let go black racer snakes, but then we
saw they found their way here and black racer snakes eat
rattlesnakes. So my wife is deathly afraid of
snakes. So I said, babe, just know that
the black ones are there to protect you, not hurt you, and
she's trying to work on that. So what you're saying is in a
very diverse environment, which is a permaculture environment,
there's a balance. And so therefore you don't get
overt destruction of certain foods.
That's exactly right. There's a balance.
There's enough for everything there.
We, we want the animals in here. We want the birds, right?
Because the birds will come and eat some of the mulberries and
they'll go across the other side of the lake and they'll poop.
And next thing you know, you've got a new Mulberry tree going in
over there. But still, you didn't really
answer my question. Like, let me give you a real
example. Moles.
Everybody has issues with moles. What do you do about that?
We have moles, but there's no issues.
Moles are good, right? Moles.
If you have a lawn and you want it to look like a golf course,
moles are going to mess you up. We don't want to look like a
golf course. We want to look like a life
giving system. So we have moles.
We have all sorts of stuff, but it's not.
We also have foxes. We also have Hawks.
We also have raccoons, right? So nature is the answer to
nature. Nature is the great balancer of
everything. But I mean, let's say you want
to grow, I don't know, 50,000 avocado trees, right?
You you're not really going to do that successfully in a
permaculture environment unless you have a huge amount of land.
Yeah. So Ava trees, we probably have
50 avocado trees. They're starting to come in
thick right now. Love avocados.
And we have 9 or 8 or 9 different types of avocados that
fruit at different times of the year.
If you want to be in the avocado business, then, well, you still
have to have the diversity. So our job is to show what it's
like to live completely free. Like our family homestead is
100% off the grid. We produce all of our own food,
water and energy on site. So if you want to be only in the
avocado business, then that's a little difference.
But we're not only we're in all of the fruit business and eggs
and fish and everything else. Well, I'm 55 years old.
I have never felt better in my life.
I run around the tennis court like a 25 year old and I don't
sleep nearly as much. It just feels good because I'm
communing with nature and I'm eating poison free food right?
I'm thinking either no thoughts or more healthy thoughts than I
used to and I'm eating good and living the life right in my
workout. I don't go to the gym anymore.
I haven't been to the gym for a long time.
I'll grab the five gallon buckets from the little slew
down there or the pond and I'll carry them up with water in it
and I will intentionally use that as my workout.
And it's way better for your body than holding some kind of
barbell. Every plant around me is
literally, literally a free energy system.
Tesla eats your heart out, right?
You don't need to be a genius to figure out free energy.
You just need to plant a food for us.
Because what do humans run on? We run on calories.
And it produces more and more calories every year.
And not only that, it'll produce seeds.
This food forest can literally feed the entire world over time
because it's exponential, because everything has seeds and
everything can propagate millions more, infinitely more
in the very, you know, over time.
OK, but now let's play devil's advocate.
What do you do in situations like, I don't know, Middle East?
So in the Middle East especially, you need to start
following the the permaculture principles.
And they're doing this in a lot of places already in Africa, the
Sahara, they're making us a green wall across the desert.
And they're using permaculture techniques where they're putting
in these circles and they're putting in the right types of
very Hardy, desert loving plants.
And the circles are, are made in swales, right?
They're like ditches on contour and, and when it rains, maybe
once every two or three years, they fill that swell with
biomass. The rain will come in and it'll
it'll slow it, sink it and spread it underground instead of
having it run off the land and in a road, everything.
So in the Middle East, everywhere in the world, when we
start using these principles of catching and storing water and
then using the permaculture techniques, we can literally
turn the whole world into an absolute food producing
paradise. Yeah.
So what you're saying is that you can adapt permaculture to
all kinds of terrains? Permaculture is a design
science. In fact, if they ever do go to
Mars, which I think is absolutely insane relative to
healing this world, then they could use permaculture to turn
Mars into something. What do you make of Elon?
I I I think that he is either a complete fraud or a genius
child. It's one of those two extremes.
Yes, yes. Either he's either part of the
control mind control mechanism, which is what I really think, or
he's just a silly little child with some genius tendencies.
OK. So how long have you now?
You said three years now you've been on this ground.
Three years, yeah. This this area especially there
was three years we started from from scratch blank canvas.
But you need a lot of start up capital to get things going.
And I keep going back to the average person.
I suppose it it does. It does echo what you said
earlier that you have to just start somewhere.
Well, if you want to do this like this, thanks to Marcel and
some other amazing people, we put a lot of money into this.
But like I mentioned earlier, we've got 2 homeless people who
don't have any money and they've gotten started, right?
Is there are growers all over in every area that I've ever been,
that if you go up to them and say, listen, I don't have any
money, but I would like to start growing food wherever I can.
Do you have any extra seeds? Do you have any extra baby
plants? I have never met a gardener that
would say no to that request. My conversation with you is
remarkably uplifting, as it always is, but it can come
across as as too good to be true.
There must be cons, there must be downsides, there must be
challenges, surely. Yeah, The ultimate challenge is
inspiring and empowering people to realize that they can do
something about this problem, this global problem, this global
war. And a lot of people have been
programmed to believe that they're insignificant and they
can't do anything. They are so in shame and
humiliation and fear, they have lost all of their courage.
So our primary task is to inspire and empower, to create
the awareness. And then to add the question
I've been asking obsessively for over almost 2 decades, How do we
do that? Right?
So that's why we have spent a lot of time and energy in
creating the systems and the structures that can support
people in their transition from pain and suffering and fear to
being fully courageous and actually becoming the change
that they want to see in the world.
OK, but more practically speaking, what about things
like, you know, losses? I mean, you know, people giving
it a go and everything just dies.
Yeah. So that's well, when you say
everything just dies most of the time, like here, we've had
several plants die because we failed to know how to care for
them or because we've had 4 hurricanes, two major droughts,
a 500 year flood and a 40 year freeze, right?
So sometimes the climate, the elements are going to cause
problems. But when you have the diversity
that we have, right? And by the way, even if you have
a tiny little piece of land in in the diversity you could put
in in in 100 square foot little patch, you could have 30 or 40
different types of food producing plants.
You could have some plants that love warm weather, other plants
that love cold weather and a bunch of stuff in the middle.
And no matter what happens, as long as you give that some
water, if it's a drought, as long as you put a little
attention to making sure that the soil is good enough to
support life, which is all very doable, then you will you will
have success. You're not a fan of grass, of a
patch of lawn. The lawn is the physical
foundation of the world's enslavement of humanity's
enslavement. The lawn is a scam.
It's the ultimate psyop. When Henry Kissinger back in
1974 said if you want to control the world, control the world's
currency. If you want to control nations,
control energy. But if you want to control
people. Control food.
That was not just the ramblings of a psychopath.
That was the man in charge of the strategy to enslave
humanity. Is it scalable to Infinity?
Is there cut off at some point? No, there is no cut off because
we have, I mean, yeah, you know, the sun goes dark, then we're
kind of screwed. That's the kind of the cut off
because we've got energy coming into the system all the time,
the wind, the rain, the sun, and those energy forms.
When we catch and store those energy forms effectively, we
catch and store them by putting that energy in the soil, right?
This idea elevates and transcends all of the divisive
narratives that the governments are are speaking, right.
It transcends the climate change narrative.
It transcends parties in government, right, because this
is demonstratably and provably the solution to all of it.
Yeah, what you're saying makes a lot of sense also from an Agenda
2030 perspective, because one of the UN's ambitions is to is to
put as many people in into the the city centres as possible.
And permaculture is precisely the opposite.
It's about decentralizing all of that and and taking effectively
control away from the oligarchs. Yes, that's exactly right.
When we start growing our food locally and poison free, then we
get the price of food goes down. It's a supply and demand thing.
If if you've got a million mangoes like in Mexico, nobody
could ever sell a mango because where I just was, there's
mangoes on the sidewalk. So when you have enough supply
locally, the price goes down. And that's a major factor now
all over the world. And then?
With the tariffs. With the tariffs and even here
in Florida, I mean, Florida should be almost free food or
inexpensive. The price of food is going up
insane right now. And the another massive
component is we solve the health crisis because the reason people
are sick is they're eating poisonous foods.
They're consuming poisons in their minds and in their bodies
all day long. Didn't you meet with RFK Junior?
I did. It was a get about maybe 20
months ago and I was in the food forest and I got this
inspiration to create a campaign.
And it was a political campaign structure where I created 4
talking points, 4 big claims, like politicians love to make
big claims. And I had a picture of four
different politicians. And Kennedy was standing in a
school and his big claim was I'm going to take the poisons out of
the schools and the children will heal while he's standing
there and the children are planting food.
If this is the only thing we do, and that is add regenerative
agriculture classes to every school in the United States, we
don't need more money. In fact, the result of
regenerative AG classes in schools will be an income and
wealth production system. So it'll actually cost less
money. And the students are already
there and they already want to do it, right?
So when I showed RFK this, he got all excited.
He goes, I love this, let's do it.
And then there was four more, three more pictures there.
The next one was a picture of Donald Trump at a prison and
Donald Trump's big claim I will reduce crime by 50% over the
next four years. The media would have went nuts
until Donald Trump, which he hasn't done yet, which is why I
don't trust the man. He exposes the truth of the
matter when our inmates grow their own food at prisons.
Not only did one study show a $40 million savings for the
taxpayers in one county in California, but the recidivism
rate went from 67% to under 10%. So it is literally when the
inmates learn the principles of growing their own food and
practice those principles, their recidivism drops.
So we're literally talking about the end of childhood diabetes
and suffering, the end of the majority of crime.
And then DeSantis was at a City Park.
He says I'm going to end hunger in the United States by using
the same resources that we're currently using to mow lawns and
spray poisons. Now instead, let's plant food
and let's spray compost tea, which actually increases the
vitality of the land. And the last one was the
churches. The churches are now mostly
demonstrating the exact opposite of the biblical principle of
stewardship. And so we're working with
churches, we're working with sheriffs, we're working with all
of these different entities to bring in these new models, and
they're all based in God's design or nature, which solves
all of them. It's so obvious when you think
that you have schools and churches and prisons and
government departments, all of these big spaces that could end
up with food forests. Yes, yes, yes, we are creating
the new model, the idea whose time has come stronger than all
of the armies of the world. We being everybody in this
movement who's taking action steps towards their own
self-reliance 1st and then building a community around them
of self reliant people. It's I, I might be wrong and
I've been wrong a lot, but I don't think it's going to be too
long before we have a systemic collapse of the systems.
We're already experiencing it on multiple levels.
So it is our job right now, this spring here at least in the
northern hemisphere, right, to start planting seeds and then
talking to the teachers and the sheriff's and the prison wardens
and the pastors, right at the church.
Our local pastor, his, his thing is surrounded by A5 acre lawn.
Well, guess what? He's now growing food at the
church. And that reduces so many other
costs. Yes, it's exponential in the
abundance and logic and beauty and joy of it all.
You know, we've also been taught to fear nature.
I've had two people tell me. One person I said, yeah, plant a
food forest here. And this lady goes that'll bring
in the raccoons, right? And she said that with fear.
Another lady about raccoons said, oh, yeah, recruons will
destroy the houses. She she meant it Like what?
I grew up in a house. Raccoons all over all the time.
They never destroyed our house. So we've been so programmed to
believe in sanity that we're scared of nature when we're not
scared of eating McDonald's. They're going to not, they're
not going to want to dig in your trash when they've got food all
over the place, right? And and then we bring in all the
animals, the apex predators, all of it.
And we live again with nature, right?
Nature has been the bad guy for too long.
What's that quote that you you gave to me some some years ago
about the the ducks and the and the worms?
Oh yes, that's a fun one. So you don't have a June bug
problem, You have a duck deficiency, and then the animal
becomes another food production. Like there's a guy, there's a
Ted Talk, it's about foie gras, and an Italian guy won the foie
gras competition two years in a row and the French were losing
their minds, right? How can I Italian in our
competition? Well, here's what he did.
He created a pond and then he planted all of these particular
geese and ducks favorite foods. He then noticed that they were
landing there and creating homes on his property, right.
He then started building this system and the the geese, every
year he would take half the geese around the corner, just
lead them right around the corner and and slaughter half of
them. And he would use that to make
foie gras. And then when here's the part
that blew my mind. All of a sudden, the geese that
were remaining noticed that there was enough food and
resources for their friends. So then when the other flocks of
geese were overhead, they would go, come on down, come on down.
There's room for all of you, right?
But when there wasn't room, then the new geese would be would be
castaway by the other geese in the in the flock, right?
So nature has a perfect balancing system and nature
communicates in ways that we don't comprehend, right?
The mycelial network in the ground is like a communication
network. In fact, sometimes I think I'm
just working for the mushrooms. So instead of trying to remove
an element and creating scarcity, you add an element and
create abundance. Exactly.
Well put brother. Yes, when we live it, when
people come here and I've given well over 1000 tours, people
from all over the world actually have come here and we have a
100% inspired rate. Nobody has ever left here and
said this sucks. People have come in wanting to
say this sucks because somehow their egos got triggered and
they came in and they're starting to bitch about this or
that, or they're bitching about the cows, or they're bitching
about everything. By the time they leave, they
have a new perspective every time.
That's. Exactly right.
Nobody can go into nature and go, well, that's disgusting.
You know, you don't, you don't, you don't look at the beauty
that's behind you and go, oh, that is vile.
You know it, it has the opposite.
It has the opposite effect. It it, it brings a sense of life
back into you. It does.
Can you hear the birds, by the
way, through this mic? Yes.
Yes, yeah. I mean, I love that I can hear a
blue Jay, a mockingbird. Earlier, I heard some sandhill
cranes, and then there's a whole bunch that I don't know the
names of, right? That bird song is a vibration.
It's a frequency of healing to the to the real, like in the
smells that are around here. They are frequencies that heal
your body. And of course the mulberries,
the plums, all the food is nature's medicine.
That's that's why I feel so at peace right now.
And that's why I can stand here and I can tell the government.
I can tell Donald Trump, Hey, Donald Trump, you know, I think
you might be doing some good things.
But Donald Trump, come here and let's really change the world
because you're also doing some things that are very
destructive. And we don't want to fight.
I don't want to fight you. I don't want to tell you that
I'll never pay taxes to your government.
Instead, I would like to volunteer my time to support
your government, right? It's not my government, by the
way. My government is nature.
It's God. It's way bigger than what you're
talking about. South, Donald Trump, Governor
Ron DeSantis, and all the rest of you.
We've got this. Let's integrate the schools.
Let's integrate the prisons. Let's integrate the police
force. Let's integrate the military.
In fact, let's add permaculture to every Army base around the
world. Let's create radical abundance
around our army bases and then let's hand them off back to the
people and end colonialism. And when we do this, we will
create, in general terms, peace on earth.
The most profound deductive reasoning that I've come across.
Sun Tzu, the art of war, right, The most cited and studied
military strategist in the history of the world.
He his primary and fundamental deduction.
Know thyself, know thy enemy. 1000 battles, 1000 victories.
Contemplate that, brother. Because once we know who we are,
we know our enemy is ignorance and fear and evil, then there's
nothing to lose. We've already won.
Jim, how can I find out more or follow you?
Yes, Origins reclaimed.org is a community marketplace.
There's no owners of this. It's a not-for-profit.
It's owned by humanity, and that's where we are going to be
coming together to follow Doctor Martin Luther King's advice.
Those who love peace must learn to organize as effectively as
those who love war. And we are creating a network
that is locally based, it's international with its knowledge
and wisdom, but we focus on creating local self reliant
groups and then food Forest abundance.com.
And for people who want to come visit us, come to Galt's
Landing, it's Galts Landing dot Farm.
It's GALTS Landing dot Farm income experience what we're
talking about. I just want to throw one thing
at you that might be a deal breaker.
I like my wine, Jim, and I don't see enough vineyards on your on
your ground. We are turning all of our fences
into trellises and we could produce 500 bottles of wine off
of our one primary fence, plus dragon fruit and passion fruit.
So yes, now then again, Florida wine, relatively speaking, it's
not that good. So bring bring some from.
Well, 500 bottles is good enough.
All right, Jim. GAIL, thank you for joining me
in the trenches. Thank you, Jeremy.
Love you brother.