Kim Isherwood, I hope, is well known to the UK column audience
for a number of reasons. Not just because her actions
have been reported on the news many times, but she has also
conducted a number of very compelling interviews, showed an
academic background in criminology and what she has
done with Public Child Protection Wales is nothing
short of astonishing, in particular, her fight against
the education system and the transgender lobby.
So without any further ado, we are pushed on time.
But Kim Isherwood, thank you very much for coming.
You're very welcome. Thank you, you kick Holland for
having us. This is a wonderful opportunity.
So for those who don't know us, we are public child protection
wheels. We do exactly what it says on
the 10. We are the public protecting the
children in Wales. OK, so we haven't got a lot of
time today. I not really going to address
much of the sex education with you because you can find all of
yourselves later on what I want to look at today, we're going to
roughly look at the problem. I want to introduce some of the
people that's fighting this in Wales and then I'm going to
discuss a little bit about the process that we've been through.
Thank you, Mr Speaker. Graphic lessons on oral sex, how
to choke your partner safely and 72 genders.
This is what passes for relationships and sex education
in British schools across the country.
Children are being subjected to lessons that are age
inappropriate, extreme sexualising and inaccurate,
often using resources from unregulated organisations that
are actively campaigning to undermine parents.
This is not a victory for equality, it is a catastrophe
for childhood. Will my right honourable friend
honour his commitment to end inappropriate sex education by
commissioning an independent inquiry into the nature and
extent of this safeguarding scandal?
So all of that is true, OK, Every single thing that is true.
And you can find most of this on our websites.
I'm not going to go through the actual sex education.
If I did, I know I would have tears in the room because it
happens every single time is sick.
You can find everything on our website,
publicchildprotectionwheels.org. Much of our fight evidence where
we've engaged with the government, the court system,
and you'll find a lot about us there and the people of who we
are. So who are the people behind
this? We are from all walks of life.
We've got computer software engineers, retired teachers,
accountants, nurses, doctors, care workers, you name it, we've
got it. People from all walks of life,
strangers. None of us knew each other until
our children became under attack.
We are strangers to each other. But people think, are we good
friends? People think we're family, but
that is not true. We're just all joined with one
thing. We're joined through the heart
and that's our children. And then there's me, Mouth of
the South. So my first permanent address
was HMPYOY, Eastwood Park, then HMPYOI recall, HMPYOI Bollywood
Hall. I don't suppose there's many
people in the room that can relate to that.
But I do know this is being streamed.
So the people out there like me, the people who've been told your
entire life you're less. This is your moment to get off
your knees and on your feet. Our children need us now.
You are not less, you are more. If you spent more time in the
corridor than the classroom, you are more and we need you guys.
Now. On the flip side of that, I am a
criminologist. I do have a few degrees under my
belt. I specialised in child sex
abuse, institutional child sex abuse, which I learnt about
here. I learnt a lot about life in
prison and when you've got somebody like me, when nothing's
too hot or too heavy, you've got nothing they can take away from
you. You've got an education, you can
untangle their documents. You do become quite dangerous to
the government. So now on to the process, the
democratic process. I've got no faith in politics
whatsoever. I've been bitten once, bitten
twice, shy. However, I have to take a
country on a journey. We have to go down the
democratic process. We took part in consultations
where 87% of us rejected the sex education.
Another consultation, they didn't mention sex education,
but 68% of us still mentioned it and rejected it.
They went ahead anyway. At the time.
Kirsty Williams on my right, you were left.
She was the education minister and according to Kirsty
Williams, the children of Wales are banking on me.
They are banking on me. That was just speeches in the
Sanev. They were banking on her, all
right. They were banking on her to give
up her job and leave. Kirsty Williams did not stand
for re election and that's because of us.
She was too scared to stand for re election.
We know this, we know it from people who's close to her.
She couldn't stand the backlash against RSC.
Then we've got Becca Brown, so she was a councillor at the
time. She's recently stepped down.
So we've challenged the government, we've challenged the
councils to the point where Louise Hose, Councillor Louise
Hose called an extraordinary meeting in Gwynedd Council if
you go to the BBC, oh, we were a bunch of animals in the gallery,
We had to be removed away. And poor Becca Brown now was a
panic alarm in her house because apparently I said she needs
stringing up. I wasn't even there, I wasn't
even there. So what do we do?
How do we respond to that? We started raising awareness and
you won't know about this because you're not in wheels,
but one of our leaflets went viral and as a result of that,
you will see we have 22 local authorities in Wales, we have 22
local authority WhatsApp groups fighting this.
We are the only, we are the only country in the world that can
say that. Some groups have 14 people, some
groups have 400 people, Some groups are less active, some are
on fire. It's irrelevant.
We have 100% of the country fighting and that's why the
council are not allowed to engage on the topic of sex
education. So we took it to court, we went
on the judicial process, a judicial review.
Now we're dealing with an agenda, a massive big agenda
here. You can't possibly deal with
this in court. But in Wales they had removed
our opt out, our right to opt out of this education.
So what we decided we were going to go into court to fight for
our parental rights, our parental opt out.
So into court we went to the High Court in Cardiff, which the
media buried. They just scooted over.
We went into that court where the Welsh Government was saying
we were promoting misinformation and we proved everything as
fact. We proved this was global, we
proved the whole of the UK. All four countries adopted this
in March 2017. Unfortunately, the government
brought out the big guns. Using case law from around
Europe. They successfully argued
parental rights do not exist, they are not a thing.
So we tried warning people in England they're going to do this
to you, they are bringing this in with legislative changes.
They will use our case law against you. 3 weeks ago we were
contacted by a parent in England.
A head teacher from England was quoting our case law and taking
big paragraphs from it. These teachers have been
schooled with this legislation. You need to look out for this
legislation. So that was the only thing they
won in court and they slapped on us at lower the costs.
We had to raise in excess of 100,000 lbs.
But I was a lead claimant on the case simply because I'm the
poorest, so they can't have what you don't, where you haven't
got. But they were sending emails
threatening to remove my assets and like I told you, I got
nothing. So what that meant for me was
they were going to take my furniture, my furniture, so my
children won't have a sofa to sit on.
But I don't care, you send me a bill for £0.50 or £50,000, it
means the same to me. It is just numbers but with but
with the help of UK column, with the help of UK column and other
places we did successfully raise that money.
We held on to a little bit longer.
You know, we don't want to pay them straight away.
We would enjoy in these emails. I was enjoying them and because
I was a lead claimant on the case, I had permission to speak
for the other claimants. Now if they were receiving these
emails, I don't know if we would all be here now because it was a
difficult fight for some of them.
Some were openly anxious, some kept it in, one started losing
their hair. But I didn't care about this,
nor for me. I just had to protect the other
claimants in it all. Like I said, we did pay it.
We successfully created case law, we did prove this thing as
fact and now we have a person to blame through this case law.
We can blame the head teachers. The head teachers have
absolutely no idea the government has put their head on
the block. I don't take pleasure out to
going after people's jobs but at this stage in the game if they
have failed to look into this education they are negligent.
So that was in the court. This was outside the court.
What a beautiful week that was. They couldn't put their camera
into our crowd because they didn't know whether it was a
Christian or a lesbian. We were all stood shoulder to
shoulder, Muslims, Christians, people of faith, people of none.
Children LED it. The children were on the mic
outside. The children were chanting, say
no to RSE, Say no to RSE. What a wonderful moment.
And that's why the media didn't report on it.
I said straight to them, you're not reporting on us because when
your camera comes into our crowd, you don't know whether
it's a Christian or a lesbian. So outside the courts we we got
a little glimpse of the government's barristers going
across the road. So we all started shouting Boo,
Boo, shame on you, shame on you. It was amazing.
But according to them, they were too scared to come out the
front. After that, they always had to
be hushered out the back. We had them, we booed them down.
But I think the most magical moment of all was Paul Diamond's
closing speech when he absolutely annihilated Casey.
Moffett, proved the Welsh Government were the ones that
brought misinformation. And as soon as our judge stood
up and went, the court erupted. When we come outside, Paul
Diamond come out through the door and the whole crowd was
chanting hero, hero, hero, hero. You could hear it all through
the streets of Cardiff. What a moment that was.
That is worth every little bit of this fight to be stood
shoulder to shoulder. Muslims, Christians, the
children chalking on the floor, children playing together.
That's something the government don't want.
That's something the government is scared of, unity.
So now on to the people process and empty vessels make the
loudest noise. I don't think you can see the
shaded bit very well. That is supposed to be Peter
Tatchell there. So Peter Tatchell tried to come
to Wales. Peter Tatchell was booked in for
an event with ABBC journalist we found out about in Abergavenny.
If you go to the media, according to them the police put
a stop to this because there was far right extremists there.
Far right extremists, that's a lie.
I informed the police that we were going because I knew there
would be people. There were in our hoodies and I
was not having them get into trouble.
Peter Tatchell in 30 years has never been cancelled until that
day we cancelled Peter Tatchell. It was us.
We turned up. We didn't want trouble, we don't
want trouble. All we wanted was one thing.
We pulled the PA system out and we played Peter Tatchell through
that PA system echoing through the streets of Abergavenny
talking about how sex when 9 year old boys may be harmless,
but we are the extremists. And then you've got this guy
here, see him there in his heels, that is Ian Timbral.
Ian Timbral was a teacher and he was a deputy head teacher.
He's actually, he's written articles on us calling us
radicals. I didn't know who he was until I
seen these articles and I challenged him and I try to
explain what our concern is. The sex abuse, taking pillars in
schools, teachers assaulting our children.
He wanted evidence. I give him piles and piles and
piles of evidence. He blocked me and he's actively
buried the sexual abuse and salts of children in Welsh
schools for personal gain. Ian Timbrel, he's dressed like
that for his 8 year old pupils. Apparently that is gender
stereotype. So they also put Ian Timbrel
against me on ITV News. I had absolutely no idea.
I did the interview in January, it was aired the next September.
You know, it's when I give him 45 minutes, they give me 23
seconds. But they brought Ian Timbrel in.
Now, I didn't respond to Ian Timbrel in that moment because
there's a time and a place. So what we did was we went, we
had our demonstration outside the Senath and I turned up
breast as Ian Timbrel. That is not gender stereotyping,
ladies and gentlemen. Those heels are for sex appeal.
Women do not wear heels like that everyday you will see
people going to clubs, you'll see people dancing around poles,
you'll see people in the streets selling themselves with those
heels. That is not women.
Women don't wear that kind of stuff.
You've got a man there fraunting himself in sex appeal heels for
8 year olds and I'm the radical. So Mr Ian Timbrel is no longer a
deputy head teacher. He's now an RSE consultant and
he's just been up for an award for his work on good mental
health. So we've been all around the UK,
ladies and gentlemen, because we know knowledge is power.
We've been to Scotland, England, Ireland, we've done tours of
Wales and we know we need to educate our people.
People don't quite understand what's going on and the way
we've gone about things has been wrong.
Really like me, I, I couldn't really string a sentence
together when this stuff first came out.
Now how do you verbalise this stuff?
So the new approach now for us is we're asking questions.
Have you seen this? Did you see that?
Have you heard about this? It's not about winning the
discussion, it's about planting the seeds.
Are we the seed planters or the fruit pickers?
We the seed planters, ladies and gentlemen, the fruit is there
for the children. So not only are we open in these
discussions with people, we are actively training and educating
the people of Wales. We are training them on
advocacy, rights and representation so they are now
empowered enough to go into the schools.
We've had parents going into schools as an advocate, we've
had parents going to schools with other parents as advocates,
and we have managed to safeguard entire year groups by taking
this approach. Not only have we done that, we
have recently written our own training package for
institutional child sex abuse awareness.
This training has been written for professionals working with
children, but we really want it in the communities.
This is a preventative approach. We've designed 4 new concepts of
perpetration scale. It shows you how to prevent, how
to safeguard, how to recognise models of offending, bias,
disclosure, explanations of abuse and types of abuse.
This course is going through the CPD accreditation.
It's going to be a qualification.
So where we are now, ladies and gentlemen, this is a mass
empowerment exercise. We are people sourcing.
We'll speak at any platform. We'll go to any event.
We're looking for that parent people, people power, and that's
what it's about. We've been raising money, we've
had people walking across the width of Wales, people climbing
mountains. All of this has been grassroots.
Not one single big donation, not one single big funder.
But you know what, somebody can give you £100, but 10 people can
give you £10 and those 10 people really matter.
That's 10 people supporting. So what we are doing right now,
ladies and gentlemen, we are raising money to get us
accredited, which will be happening next month.
Then we will be purchasing a minibus and we will be taking
this preventative approach all around the UK, looking for the
new mums, looking for new dads, showing them how to prevent,
showing them how this is wrong and that that way we will create
an environment where this stuff cannot exist.
We will create environments where Pride does are reluctant
to offend, and together this grassroots movement will make us
the safest place in the world for raising and educating
children. I think the applause says an
awful lot that I know don't need to and we said today was to be
about people who are actually doing things.
Commissioner would utterly unbelievable and I think after
hearing that, there is no doubt that we do go away as the seed
planters, but the responsibility is now upon us, armed with what
we've just heard.