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Good afternoon. 
It's just gone 1:00 on Wednesday

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the 27th of August 2025. 
Welcome to UK column News. 

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I'm your host, Charles Mallett 
and I'm joined in the studio 

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today by Mike Robinson. 
Welcome to the programme, Mike. 

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Pleasure, Charles. 
Good and we have our live links,

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Sandy Adams from Somerset. 
Now in today's programme we'll 

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be looking at the relationship 
between the Online Safety Act 

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and digital identity, a closer 
dive into the surveillance state

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as it is, how the 2030 Agenda is
wielded as a control mechanism 

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and a well, I suppose another 
look at the very questionable 

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decisions being made in the 
energy sector as well as the 

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relationship between so called 
public health propaganda and 

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celebrity. 
But we are going to get started 

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today with the issue of 
deportation, and the past 

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fortnight has seen the issue of 
mass deportation as being the 

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key political and social 
battleground, with opportunists 

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crawling out of the woodwork at 
every turn. 

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Just yesterday, Nigel Farage and
Zia Youssef took to the stage to

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give speeches under what they're
calling Operation Restoring 

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Justice, including saying that 
they would do away with not just

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the European Convention on Human
Rights but also the Human Rights

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Act 1998. 
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did take a a large number of 
questions from the press, which 

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they answered in varying degrees
of well, they were varyingly 

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convincing, let's say to be 
perhaps generous to them. 

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There seem to be exceptions to 
every rule when they were 

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actually pushed, especially 
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Afghanistan residents to remain.
Farage qualifying saying that 

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yes, absolutely those who fought
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Which of course is slightly 
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the most recent statistics show 
that Afghans are among the 

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greatest numbers of those that 
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deport in the 1st place. 
It's all a bit contradictory and

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confusing, but nonetheless, 
everybody is weighing in. 

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Yvette Cooper, of course, saying
that she will overhaul the 

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system after inheriting. 
She's very clear to to make the 

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point that she's inherited the 
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And from the government 
statement, she's promising to 

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end hotel use under some of the 
most significant changes to the 

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asylum system in decades. 
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there is a backlog of 106,000 
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wait times are increasing, with 
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weeks. 
Now, just like Nigel Farage, the

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government appears to have no 
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actually achieve any of this. 
It's a point of political 

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expediency at the moment. 
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by that, just have a quick 
listen to what Dan Dan Jarvis 

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said to the BBC recently. 
No commentators on this 

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particular issue think that 
hotels are the appropriate 

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setting. 
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made that point falsely. 
So what is the appropriate 

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setting? 
You are a minister from the Home

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Office? 
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So. 
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a range of other different sort 
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Can you name some? 
Parts of the country, well we, 

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we are working through the 
options of what they might look 

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we. 
Had a yeah. 

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We've had a year and during that
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people who didn't have a right 
to be here and we've increased 

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asylum decision making by 116%. 
You you you have to do more than

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one figure. 
You know this is a. 

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Issue a live issue now. 
We've had somebody on the 

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programme this morning saying 
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Council, saying they're going to
seek legal advice, whether they 

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can now do the same. 
This problem's going to get 

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bigger. 
It's a headache for your 

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government. 
Could you at least answer just 

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so specifically? 
If it's not hotels as security 

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minister, what is it? 
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the commitment that we've made 
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a range of other more 
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Dan Jarvis there taking the hit 
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In fairness, the BBC, the the 
correct question is being asked 

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and there's an absolute failure 
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Now. 
The the catalyst for all of this

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coming into the news has been 
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case brought by Epping Forest 
District Council and on their 

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website Chris Whitbread, the 
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written, and this I should 
remind you, concerns the Bell 

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Hotel. 
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council is aware, there is no 
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individuals who might only have 
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days before being housed at the 
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The use by the Home Office of 
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poses a clear risk of further 
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already at a high and the risk 
of irreparable harm to the local

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community. 
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that the Home Office continues 
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And then he explains how 
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brought to bear. 
He says it is not in use as a 

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hotel and it doesn't function as
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As I said, this is the Bell 
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The establishment of a centre to
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not appropriate in planning 
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Asylum seekers have been at the 
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this year, but the council has 
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the protest. 
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action can yield results, but 
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interpreted. 
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up at the High Court, makes a 
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He take he takes heed of the 
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dismisses all other concerns. 
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It is this precedent which 
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since so many other councils are
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Eyre said the questions to be 
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been a change in the use of the 
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that change is material in 
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He then goes on to say that the 
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there was a risk of irredeemable
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continuation of the use of the 
bell could result in community 

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tensions which would not heal. 
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speculation and I take no 
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And then he said, the defendant 
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application has been triggered 
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weight should be attached and by
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I have explained above the 
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the fear of crime and the 
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both lawful and unlawful, to the
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So whilst this may be held as a 
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action, it's very much qualified
by the manner in which the legal

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system has actually addressed it
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concerns raised have very much 
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More than that, in listening to 
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been substantively dismissed, 
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and the judiciary which refuses 
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Now whilst there is no doubt 
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prompted the Council to act, 
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right about the planning 
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when they've failed to do 
anything now, as the Jarvis 

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interview demonstrates, it 
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what now? 
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potential for even less suitable
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young men who are already here? 
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relation to this has been 
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aware, in what appears to be an 
organic campaign to fly the 

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flags of Saint George and of the
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And this is well underway, well 
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But I would say that we would do
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And here are just some of those 
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right down in the middle. 
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I've shown the NHS rainbow, 
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Progress and the Palestinian 
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Now they're described as an 
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and patriotism. 
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divisive action and serious 
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the population and, as this 
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the background, the aggressive 
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order that they be seen to be 
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So the very public order issue 
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speaking about can absolutely be
triggered by the conflation of a

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sense of national pride with 
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which are perceived to be not 
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Now also, just as the case, just
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Southport, this will pit people 
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against those manipulating the 
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And here's an example of exactly
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Hey, they're throwing digs. 
Hey, he's going up that that 

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flag is going to the top of that
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Go on. 
He's getting up here. 

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He's going. 
He's got up. 

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Yay, yay. 
Go on, Bellai. 

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Fucking running the soulful 
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Go on, Bellai. 
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My apologies, I think there was 
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language in the background 
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that this is already a situation
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And here we have Robert Jenrick 
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course, as he perhaps 
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tensions here, hanging the Union
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there's no doubt that others 
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And the reason I describe it in 
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campaign is called Operation 
Raise the Colours and has been 

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started, or at least claimed to 
be by this man Andy Saxon as you

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see in the top left. 
He's supported by Urban Scoop, a

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pro Israel and very much anti 
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And they're here promoting a 
campaign to save Tommy, Tommy 

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Robinson of course with Rebel 
News and known Zionist 

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affiliated organisation. 
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campaign has been alive to the 
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the unfortunate likelihood of 
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anyone perceived as Muslim or 
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This tweet there saying this is 
raise the colours in practise. 

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It's not pride, not heritage, 
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hatred dressed up as patriotism.
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proves the point that this 
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It's not a country. 
Yeah, for your future, for your.

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Future. 
Sweetheart, all these ragged 

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Palestinians. 
Get up. 

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It's very easy to see how a 
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by many as a as a noble and and 
indeed fairly straightforward 

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campaign could actually very 
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Now, Urban Scoop further 
promotes the idea that the Quran

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is in fact condoning acts of 
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And it's at this point that I 
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recent article on the UK column 
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And I am pleased to say that 
David joins us on the news 

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programme today now. 
So David, welcome to UK Column 

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News. 
Just to get started with what 

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I've just said in mind in a way 
in in the way in which Islam may

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be regarded by some and indeed 
how it's been manipulated on the

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shores. 
If you could just tell us a 

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little bit about your article 
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Well, I mean, the article is an 
in depth investigation based on 

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leaked internal government 
documents, which tries to look 

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at the way in which the British 
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Home Office and its Homeland 
Security Group, which is an 

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intelligence agency within the 
Home Office, has engaged in 

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effectively astroturfing a whole
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groups as part of their effort 
to effectively domesticate Islam

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and especially to respond to the
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coming from Islam. 
After the success or the the the

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the size of the anti Iraq war 
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and four. 
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that was to try and say, well, 
we want to change Islam. 

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Islam shouldn't be engaged in, 
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criticising government or 
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the war in Iraq, but also in 
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Palestine. 
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they've done this and they've 
asked reserved a huge number of 

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Muslim groups is to try and 
suggest that that Muslims are 

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British patriots and that it's 
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Muslims to oppose Western wars. 
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term campaign of affairs. 
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effectively is that the the 
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a whole number of different 
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Muslim organisations. 
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their their involvement in it. 
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relations organisation. 
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cleared every message which went
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particularly the white community
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shouldn't oppose Western wars. 
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adorn themselves with the Union 
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people, the Muslims who were, 
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saying we don't want to kill a 
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as being what they were called 
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as, as actually the British 
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power of the Jwani government in
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So there's like there's a deep 
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services such that they are 
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supporting people they call 
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smearing honest Muslims who 
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as being extremists. 
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we've obviously got the research
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research department within the 
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we know has been succeeded by 
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development programme in the 
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Breakthrough Media Network, now 
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Limited. 
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between what's going on with the
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narrative, but also the 
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narrative. 
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cynical in both cases. 
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stuff that you're talking about,
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of course is run by MR6 and by a
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initiative, which you've covered
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course was an anti Russian 
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gate furago of nonsense, which 
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last few days by Tulsi Gabbard. 
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same thing. 
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which of course is in favour of 
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and of supporting Zelensky and 
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support Zelensky at the same 
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those who who were against the 
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the genocide in Gaza. 
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organisations which are closely 
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agencies. 
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organisation you you mentioned 
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today's Information Research 
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Homeland Security Group, which 
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inside the Home Office and comes
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MI 5. 
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Counter Disinformation Unit 
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which of course was key to the 
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Syria where they've employed a 
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promote effectively Al Qaeda in 
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Bashar al Assad. 
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inside. 
British intelligence and inside,

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inside the strategy of British 
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illustrate to people that that 
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that they are engaged in a, in a
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Is that right? 
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The first part is a long article
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intelligence, and there's quite,
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look in depth about four or five
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David, thank you very much. 
Just to just to finish off, have

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you got any thoughts on on the 
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the moment and how you think 
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We having a huge escalation in 
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investigations of Robinson's 
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the science movement and the 
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very beginning of the English 
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movement. 
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disinter some of what's 
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that you started to do there 
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I mean, the whole question of of
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does that come from? 
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Zionist themes about, for 
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which was popularised by a woman
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her real name is as she say, a 
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operative. 
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Morocco for the Mossad. 
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look at the links there are 
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movement and this current 
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Of course, one of the key 
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Zionist connection is the fact 
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was it. 
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flags, like the flag of 
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Now as an indication of the way 
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involved, deeply involved with 
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a way which people haven't 
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understand that this is are 
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tanks and with the pushing 
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research work. 
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started to do some of that. 
David, thank you very much for 

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joining us today. 
That's been that's been really 

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useful and we'll look forward to
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back on in the very near future.
Thank you. 

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Thanks David. 
And of course, there'll be a 

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link to the article referenced 
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Now with David in mind and 
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he's been through with Bristol 
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this piece, it is perfectly 
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Journal has printed an an open 
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is father of Jared Kushner, 
Donald Trump's son in And this 

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is particularly to suggest that 
France has reached a tipping 

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point in terms of anti Semitism.
And it actually concerns the 

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phrase in today's world, anti 
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and simple. 
So this is the the United States

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ambassador to France has been in
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France how it is. 
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to be some sort of a split, at 
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United States and European 
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But we won't hold our breath 
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And I would just finish off this
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ultimately the goal of the 
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migration narrative is digital 
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And this is where the Labour 
Together Ritz card idea will 

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come to into its own. 
Which leads us on to Mike taking

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us into the next report. 
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saying that it's concerning 
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live here and there should be a 
mandatory universal national 

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identity credential. 
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OK, let's just have a look then 
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censorship narrative because the
legacy media continues to show 

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for censorship and digital ID. 
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typical. 
Digital ID is great, they say, 

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because a pornography viewing 
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And well, we talked a little bit
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But the narrative continues, the
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Sky attempts to lower the 
success of the online safety Axe

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Edge verification roll out by 
speak. 

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Speaking to some teenagers at 
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you seem to be suggesting they 
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regime was put in place. 
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we're told he said that the 
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malicious place and described 
frequently seeing inappropriate 

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content. 
Just one month on, he says this 

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algorithm now seems to be tamed,
although he still describes the 

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Internet as malicious. 
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show what has happened. 
And although they do pay lip 

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service to VPN use, there's no 
analysis of whether or not 

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there's any real decline in 
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whether it's just masked by VPN 
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they've published one graph here

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which shows exactly what's going
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these increases have continued 
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So clearly, you know, the VPN 
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people recognise what the 
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here and they're wanting to 
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doing on the Internet. 
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investigatory powers legislation
requires Internet service 

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providers to maintain metadata 
and records of every website 

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that we visit seems to have 
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last few years. 
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legislation to get to get the 
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And I'm going to be talking a 
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But in the meantime, in the 
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Federal Trade Commission, has 
written to platform chief 

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executives to warn them that 
compliance with the Online 

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Safety Act may leave them open 
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So FTC Chair Andrew Ferguson 
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content for American users to 
comply with foreign legal 

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requirements might amount to a 
violation of Section 5 of the 

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Federal Trade Commission Act, 
which prohibits unfair or 

461
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deceptive commercial practises. 
He cited the E US Digital 

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Services Act and the U KS Online
Safety Act, as well as reports 

463
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,320
of British efforts to gain 
access to encrypted Apple iCloud

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00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,880
data, as examples of measures 
that could put companies at risk

465
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,240
under U.S. law. 
He invited company leaders to 

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meet with his office to discuss 
how they intend to balance 

467
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demands from international 
regulators while continuing, he 

468
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,520
says, to fulfil their legal 
obligations in the United 

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00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,840
States. 
And on the digital ID front 

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itself, the global roll out 
continues. 

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So biometric update here is 
reporting that Nigeria's 

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National Identity Management 
Commission must make sure it 

473
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issues at least 59 million 
national identification numbers 

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by December the 31st, 2026. 
Now, this is an objective of the

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the ID Authority is pursuing in 
line with revised terms for the 

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Nigerian Identity for 
Development project. 

477
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,800
It's an initiative funded by the
World Bank alongside the French 

478
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Development Agency and the 
European Investment Bank to the 

479
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tune of around $430 million. 
Now, Barometric Biometric Update

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00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,920
cites a report by Tech Cabal 
which says that they need to 

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00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,400
issue at least 3.3 million of 
these new identification numbers

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every month between now and the 
end of the project, which is 3 

483
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times the current rollout rate. 
And so that is probably unlikely

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to happen. 
But Biometric Update also 

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reports that Sri Lanka is in a 
similar boat. 

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In this case, they intend to 
integrate the Sri Lanka Unique 

487
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,320
Digital ID project with the 
Electronic National Identity 

488
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Card project, assigning unique 
ID numbers, centralising various

489
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types of IDs and capturing data 
like birth certificates and tax 

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00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,000
identification. 
And finally on this topic for 

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today, the future Marketing 
Insights website takes a look at

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the size of digital of the 
digital ID market over the next 

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00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,280
few years. 
The digital identity services 

494
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:18,440
market is predicted to grow from
28 1/2 billion U.S. dollars in 

495
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:23,560
2025 to 86 1/2 billion U.S. 
dollars by 2035. 

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And they provide us with a nice 
graph for that. 

497
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,560
The leading segment in digital 
identity services market in 2025

498
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,080
is identity verification and so 
called know your customer, which

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00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,560
of course is related to the 
banks. 

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It's something that we're all 
subject to. 

501
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,920
And the top key players in this,
they consider the the likes of 

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00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,960
Nexus, LEXIS, Nexus Risk 
Solutions, Experian, Truly, 

503
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:55,840
Trulio, Jumio, Onfido, Mitac 
Systems, IDEMIA, Thalas, I prove

504
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,640
GBG and so a mixture of social 
credit companies in the West 

505
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,920
here and military industrial 
complex in there. 

506
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,880
So I don't know what else to say
about that. 

507
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:09,960
But this agenda rolls on a pace,
and it looks like it's, you 

508
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,640
know, it's clearly a global 
effort. 

509
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,760
It is, but I think we would be 
well advised to cast our eyes 

510
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,440
towards Nigeria in six months 
time and see how they're doing 

511
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,880
because if uptake has been 
anything like it was for the 

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central bank digital currency, 
it's going to be a disaster. 

513
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,280
So I think that's what we have 
to hope for. 

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00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,400
Now moving on, last week you'll 
recall that Sandy gave a report 

515
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,960
on still birth and indeed still 
what we were called stillborn 

516
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,560
baby payments in Australia. 
Now, the situation has evolved 

517
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,640
somewhat since then, but just 
before we have a look at that, 

518
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we'll go to Sandy for a very 
brief synopsis as to what she 

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00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,480
was reporting last week. 
Thanks, Charles. 

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00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:53,440
Yes, I, I came across this last 
week and the, it looks as though

521
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,360
the, the Australian government 
are kind of covertly encouraging

522
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:03,120
incentivising women to have 
abortions, late term abortions 

523
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,080
20 weeks plus. 
And they, they're giving them an

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00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:13,720
initial payment of 4200 or $300.
And then after that, because the

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baby is killed in utero, they 
are given birth to a stillborn 

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child. 
And because it's a stillborn 

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00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,960
child, there is another payment 
that they can get, which is 

528
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:31,160
$22,000 for a parental leave, 
um, payment so that they can, 

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00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,400
uh, for, for grieving for, for 
up to 18 months. 

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00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,320
So that is the, the, the way 
that it's, it's and, and 

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services Australia are 
encouraging women to, to take 

532
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,640
these payments and giving them 
all the apparatus to do so, all 

533
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,200
the forms to fill in. 
And what's happened really is 

534
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,400
that midwives are getting very, 
midwives and doctors and nurses 

535
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,000
are getting very, very stressed 
because they have to, because 

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the paperwork is crucial. 
It is literally saying, yes, you

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00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,240
have got a stillborn child, 
you're entitled to this, even 

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00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,080
though they have who willingly 
aborted their child. 

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00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,240
So all the it's down to the 
paperwork basically is if the 

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00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:15,040
paperwork is there and it's been
signed off by, by the by the 

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00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,760
medical profession who are 
having to do that. 

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00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,680
Otherwise they lose their jobs 
and they're traumatised by it, 

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00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,160
then the payments go through. 
Thanks Andy. 

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00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,960
And and this has caused 
sufficient stink, quite rightly,

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00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,800
for a question to have been 
asked in the Australian 

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00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,160
Parliament, which we'll just 
have a look at. 

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00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,640
This is from Pauline Hanson. 
Why is it made to women who 

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00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,640
deliberately abort a baby, 
Minister? 

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00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,560
This policy risks creating a 
financial incentive for late 

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00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:46,600
term abortion where Australian 
women can terminate a pregnancy 

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00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:51,920
order to the day before birth, 
they can terminate a pregnancy 

552
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,600
up to the day before birth, 
allowing women to receive a lump

553
00:32:54,600 --> 00:33:00,920
sum payment and access to paid 
parental leave of up to $22,754.

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00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,000
Why is the Albanese government 
funding the murder of healthy 

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00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,360
babies, some left to die in a 
kidney ditch for up to five 

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00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:12,360
hours, so that. 
Was the question and the 

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00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,320
minister, who had the unenviable
task of responding, said this. 

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00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,840
The Gallagher Well, the answer 
to that question is the same as 

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00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:28,600
to my earlier question. 
There are laws in this country 

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around termination of pregnancy.
They are laws that are regulated

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00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,840
by the States and territories, 
and I support those laws. 

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00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,960
I one of the reasons I got into 
politics was to ensure that 

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women had the right to make 
choices about their own 

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00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,120
reproductive health. 
I accept that some people 

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00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,400
disagree with with my views on 
that and with laws in States and

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00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:54,240
territories that that provide 
the regulatory arrangements 

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00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,240
around that. 
Now, in relation to the 

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00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,240
stillborn baby payment, as I 
said, and as it relates to other

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00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,240
payments including PPL, evidence
is required. 

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Documentation is required before
those payments are made in the 

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relationship. 
In relation to the stillborn 

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00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:15,120
baby payment, that includes 
certification from someone 

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00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,239
attending the birth, a health 
professional attending the 

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00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,600
birth, that the birth was of a 
stillborn child. 

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00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:28,120
That is the documentation that's
made or required in order to 

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00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:33,080
receive that payment. 
She was absolutely trying to 

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00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,239
evade the question and UK column
got in touch with Services 

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00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,040
Australia directly and they too 
absolutely tried to evade the 

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00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,360
question. 
They sent a statement saying it 

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00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,800
was attributable and in that 
text said that government 

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00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,159
recognises the tragic loss and 
trauma of still birth. 

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00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,400
They said a medical professional
is responsible for determining 

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00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,120
if the definition of a stillborn
baby is met for the purposes of 

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00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,800
the stillborn baby payment. 
And that is at the crux of this 

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00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,040
because of course, if the the 
way in which a foetus is 

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00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,720
extracted after being terminated
constitutes still still birth as

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00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:10,640
far as the medical professional 
is concerned, then indeed the 

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00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,080
system may be manipulated. 
Then Services Australia go on to

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00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,600
say that claims are assessed on 
the basis of evidence and 

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00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,640
documented documentation 
provided by a medical 

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00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,520
professional. 
A medical professional is 

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00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,000
responsible for considering the 
cause of death. 

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00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,320
So in other words, Services 
Australia, they're washing their

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00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,080
hands of any further 
investigation into the matter as

595
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,200
to exactly what it was that the 
medical professional had written

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00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,160
up and why. 
And then they go on to say, as 

597
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,520
though to cast one's attention 
elsewhere, they say for 

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00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,320
circumstances that are not a 
still birth, such as termination

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00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,040
of pregnancy supports are 
available through Services 

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00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,880
Australia, including counselling
and support to connect with 

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00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,360
local services. 
By which they mean if it's been 

602
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:55,360
written up as a termination 
rather than an abortion, sorry 

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00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,880
than a than a still birth. 
So Services Australia very much 

604
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,200
avoiding the question here. 
And indeed they refused on a 

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00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,800
follow up enquiry, they 
absolutely refused to answer any

606
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,080
further questions about this. 
They exactly as Sandy reports, 

607
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,600
they are without doubt 
incentivising late term 

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00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:19,280
abortions by the waving of money
for exactly this this type of 

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00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,760
procedure. 
Now moving on UK column is a 

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00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,960
phenomenal research resource and
I hope you are able to use the 

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00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,600
website to its greatest effect, 
whether or not you're a member 

612
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,920
by searching first for it, 
making sure that you're looking 

613
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,200
through all the various sections
and indeed going down to the 

614
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,680
comment on the home page. 
If you would like to join us as 

615
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,720
a member, the front page, we'll 
guide you through that whether 

616
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:46,840
you'd like to do it on a 
monthly, annual, or indeed 

617
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,320
lifetime basis. 
Now, the interview that went out

618
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,160
yesterday was Diane Rasmussen 
Mcaddy speaking to Louise Payton

619
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,720
on holistic health. 
So please do go back and listen 

620
00:36:56,720 --> 00:37:00,760
to that's gone, that's gone out 
Well, and just up now is an 

621
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,280
article by Jobst at Land Group, 
which is on evil power and 

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00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,280
artificial intelligence. 
You may have read Jobst articles

623
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,920
to date on AI and Indeed. 
This is very, very incisive, but

624
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,880
of course makes that distinction
between what is or is not 

625
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,760
possible in relation to the 
human programming side of it. 

626
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,080
And then we've got coming up 
tonight, Germ talking to Carl 

627
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,520
Zarr on Trump making India great
again this time. 

628
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,320
And then going out tomorrow at 
1:00 in the afternoon. 

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00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,840
I am speaking to Alex Thompson 
on a question of faith. 

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00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,400
And in particular, why did the 
Church of England go wrong? 

631
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,160
We only had 60 minutes, but we 
covered a fair amount of 

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00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,280
grounds. 
I really would encourage you to 

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00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,800
listen to that. 
And in terms of in terms of 

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00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,520
what's coming up, we are still 
very much looking forward to 

635
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:52,080
seeing you in person, we hope at
our event in York where we have 

636
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:54,920
Andrew Wakefield speaking. 
And indeed you will have access 

637
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,520
to his film Protocol 7, whether 
or not you join us in person or 

638
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:04,440
via the live stream now, as well
as Andrew Wakefield, test lorry 

639
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,400
will be there and a great volume
of the tickets have gone 

640
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,240
already. 
So please don't delay too long 

641
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,760
in committing to that. 
And just a reminder, there will 

642
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,200
also be a good social event in 
the evening. 

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00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,440
So we really hope to see you 
there. 

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00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,440
And if you can't make it, do 
please join us on the live 

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00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,640
stream to that. 
Now this takes us up to the the 

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00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,920
subject of biosurveillance, 
which Mike is going to describe 

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00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,480
a bit more about. 
Yes, indeed. 

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00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:34,520
So a new programme to evaluate 
wastewater monitoring could be 

649
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:38,200
used to detect a wider range of 
dangerous pathogens was launched

650
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,760
today by the UK Health Security 
Agency. 

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00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,600
Sorry, their words, not mine. 
They say they will assess the 

652
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,600
use of cutting edge technologies
to improve the U KS ability to 

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00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,240
detect and identify the genetic 
material of various viruses in 

654
00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:58,680
wastewater, tracking how the 
amount of virus detected changes

655
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:00,760
over time. 
And they say that this builds on

656
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,920
the U KS existing wastewater 
surveillance for polio and if 

657
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,080
successful, could develop the U 
KS capability to detect 

658
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:11,600
dangerous diseases such as 
Crimean Congo hemorrhagic fever,

659
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,120
a severe disease. 
These are their words, pandemic 

660
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,520
in Africa, the Balkans, the 
Middle East and parts of Asia 

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00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,000
that has never before been 
targeted in wastewater testing. 

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00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,480
So I'm sure you're impressed. 
It goes on. 

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00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,040
The programme will also explore 
the potential of these 

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00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,520
technologies to create an early 
warning system for pathogens 

665
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:34,240
such as mpox, West Nile virus 
and Lhasa, which could in future

666
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:39,160
enable the UK to detect and take
faster action on outbreaks which

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00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,960
their words, as we saw in the 
COVID-19 pandemic, is vital for 

668
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,440
an effective response. 
So try not to laugh. 

669
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,600
I appreciate this is a comedy 
section of the programme. 

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00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:54,040
But anyway, if we remember back 
to 2020, the exact same story 

671
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:59,800
was coming out of the British 
regime then, this time from 

672
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,320
Defra, the Environment Agency 
and Joint Bio Security Centre, 

673
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,400
because the UKHSA didn't exist 
yet. 

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00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,440
So what did they say? 
They said the project has 

675
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,680
already worked successfully in 
an area in the southwest of 

676
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,000
England where sewage sampling 
data showed a spike in 

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00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,800
coronavirus material despite 
relatively low numbers of people

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00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,440
seeking tests. 
And then we got a quote here 

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00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,680
from George Eustice, who said at
the time, this is a significant 

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00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,280
step forward in giving us a 
clear idea of infection rates 

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00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,800
both nationally and locally, 
particularly in areas where 

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00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,200
there may be large numbers of 
people who aren't showing any 

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00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,440
symptoms and therefore aren't 
seeking tests. 

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And then the report at the time 
said that the programme was 

685
00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:46,440
first announced in June. 
This would be 20/20/2020 has now

686
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,040
proven that fragments of genetic
material from the virus can be 

687
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,960
detected in wastewater. 
So Charles, I, I don't know what

688
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,360
you think of that, but but I 
find it highly impressive. 

689
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,080
I'm afraid to say I really don't
think very much of it. 

690
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,000
Yeah, sarcasm over. 
Yeah, I'm sorry. 

691
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,400
It is. 
I'm all out. 

692
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,880
But yes, I mean, no doubt 
they'll keep banging that 

693
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,320
particular drum or splashing it 
or whatever one does with it. 

694
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,400
But yes, it sounds like complete
nonsense. 

695
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:15,120
Sandy, on that theme, I suppose 
considering all these things are

696
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,280
related and the control 
mechanism that is Agenda 2030, 

697
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,080
what are your thoughts on that 
right now? 

698
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:26,160
Well, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm 
just about to speak really about

699
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,800
how 2030 is really the, the nub 
of everything. 

700
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:34,040
Everything really radiates out 
from from 2030. 

701
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:39,520
And I, I did a talk at a 
festival a few weeks ago called 

702
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,840
the Dirt Girt Dog Festival in, 
in Somerset. 

703
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,040
Girt means big. 
So it's a big dog festival. 

704
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,920
It's on some, it's on, it's 
anyway, it's on the the Gert dog

705
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,320
of Langport, which is a, an 
effigy in the land. 

706
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:58,680
And, and anyway, a lot of people
enjoyed seeing this and the way 

707
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,400
I broke it down and said, oh, 
you know, this actually makes 

708
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,200
sense because it's like joining 
the dots. 

709
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,360
There's so many things going 
wrong in our world and it kind 

710
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,080
of brings it all back. 
And you know, you see where it's

711
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,640
all radiating from. 
So my first slide is really a 

712
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,200
kind of a visual of that. 
Now you can't see it very well 

713
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,800
here because it's quite small. 
But in the, in the centre is 

714
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,360
Agenda 2030. 
And I will explain all these 

715
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,640
other ones radiating dating out 
because all of it is linked. 

716
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:37,280
And 2030 Agenda 2030, which was,
which was brought about in 2015 

717
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,480
by, uh, it originated from 
Agenda 21. 

718
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,000
It became 20/13/2015 at the 
Vatican, uh, by President Obama 

719
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,800
where the 17 goals were 
launched. 

720
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,800
So umm, the next slide is umm, 
really about the, the control 

721
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,560
framework and how that, that 
works. 

722
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:59,000
We've got umm, one of the 
branches is DEI mandates 

723
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,440
enforcing ideological compliance
in workplaces, education and 

724
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,240
government, undermining 
meritocracy and creating 

725
00:43:05,240 --> 00:43:07,720
division. 
And then we've got net 0 

726
00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:10,920
policies, costly energy 
transitions that dismantle 

727
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,120
rebar, reliable infrastructure, 
raise living costs and energy 

728
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:19,680
costs and give over the energy 
control to global actors. 

729
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,760
And then we've got mass 
migration, overloading housing 

730
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,160
and services, changing 
demographics rapidly and eroding

731
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:31,320
national cohesion. 
Yeah, we, we've got a lot of 

732
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:36,960
these that are tax on farming 
land, rewilding, carbon offsets 

733
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,360
that drive farmers out of 
business and reduce domestic 

734
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,640
food security, ESG. 
We've got environmental and 

735
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,920
social governance contracts for 
businesses which will dictate 

736
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,880
corporate policy via 
environmental and social 

737
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:55,720
scorecards and the sidelines 
profit and market choice. 

738
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,000
We've got BNG which is, you 
know, biodiversity net gain, 

739
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,440
which is a really big one on 
scoring and literally 

740
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,120
commodifying agriculture and 
nature. 

741
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,760
So the next one is digital ID 
systems, again, centralised 

742
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,040
databases, you know, enable 
surveillance and control. 

743
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,720
We've got the C40 cities with 
devolution, with the transfer of

744
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:22,600
power from Westminster to the 
the smart cities and what that 

745
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,720
means bypassing local democracy.
We've got CBDC's and financial 

746
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:31,360
centralisation, programmable 
money and education reform and 

747
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,440
indoctrination, replacing 
knowledge with ideology, global 

748
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,560
citizenship, training and 
climate and social activism. 

749
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,480
And the next one is obviously 
the NHS. 

750
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,720
That's another arm of it. 
Digitising and centralising 

751
00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:47,920
health data, enabling predictive
surveillance and global health 

752
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,360
governance. 
Property rights, erosion, 15 

753
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,760
minute cities, mobility 
restrictions and surveillance, 

754
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,320
infrastructure, facial 
recognition, AI monitoring, 

755
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:01,080
predictive policing. 
And then there's the last one is

756
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:05,560
I think it's the water resource 
one. 

757
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,560
Anyway, we've got yeah, water 
resource control, privatising 

758
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,480
and rationalising resources 
under environmental quotas, 

759
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,160
which is what you were talking 
about earlier. 

760
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,000
Charles banning private 
collection in some cases. 

761
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,600
International treaty overrides, 
cultural deconstruction, 

762
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,800
monopoly consolidation, 
destroying small and medium 

763
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:31,080
sized businesses again, umm, and
data mining, umm, uh, you know, 

764
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,680
and, and data mining in schools 
and impact investing all the, 

765
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,120
you know, the, the children in 
schools, data mining them. 

766
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,360
So this all comes back to the 17
sustainable goals. 

767
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:47,120
And uh, though each one of those
is, is, is instrumental in the 

768
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,520
destruction of everything as we 
know it. 

769
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,960
Umm, and I just sort of go into 
it a little bit deeper just with

770
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,120
two of those goals, umm, what 
they really mean. 

771
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,400
And I'm going to take two that 
are really related to food. 

772
00:45:59,720 --> 00:46:02,400
We've got no, no poverty and 0 
hunger. 

773
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:09,440
So let's start with no poverty. 
Yeah, it's, it's gold #1 poverty

774
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,400
alleviation and social 
protection. 

775
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,200
So the UN solution is AI enabled
digital footprints for credit 

776
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,640
and mobile money access, 
blockchain identity solutions to

777
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,480
enable economic identities for 
all. 

778
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,600
And it's a like a levelling up 
of the, of communities. 

779
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:28,240
And really what it means is to 
make everyone equally poor Ubi 

780
00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:32,000
with all with fixed amounts of 
carbon credits and digital 

781
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:37,000
footprints that are all sort of 
feeding into this data mining 

782
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:42,360
facility that they're creating. 
And the next one is I think 

783
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:48,320
we've got, yeah, end hunger, UN 
access to food, improved 

784
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,520
nutrition and food production, 
low cost GMO mass produce, food 

785
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,120
production by Monsanto, which is
now Bayer synthetic food 

786
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,400
proteins, insect proteins, no 
meat, AI sensors and blockchain 

787
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,680
to eliminate waste loss in food 
value, everything that we, we 

788
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,640
really have. 
But the real meaning of that is 

789
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:12,480
to push everything into into 
fake meat in mass food 

790
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,760
production and all that kind of 
stuff that we we know is 

791
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,640
happening. 
But this is where it puts it all

792
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,640
into one place. 
These are the two goals that 

793
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,640
cover that. 
And that's, that's really, I 

794
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,280
just wanted to put it all in one
place. 

795
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,520
Agenda 2030 is really the the 
nub of everything that that is 

796
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,760
is happening to us right now. 
Yes. 

797
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,160
And I think to the UK column 
audience that's extremely clear,

798
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,440
but it is extraordinary the 
degree to which the perhaps the 

799
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,080
majority of people are still not
alive to this. 

800
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,320
So of course, this is very much 
a message that we do need to 

801
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,640
continue to put out there. 
Now with those two last points 

802
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,480
in mind in terms of apparently 
ending poverty and apparently 

803
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,200
ending hunger, although of 
course not energy is very 

804
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,880
relevant to this because 
increasingly it takes up ground 

805
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,480
that could otherwise produce 
food. 

806
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,800
But what is the latest? 
Well, the latest is that today 

807
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:09,320
the energy regulator Ofgem has 
announced a 2% rise of the 

808
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,720
energy price cap for the period 
covering October to December 

809
00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:15,080
2025. 
Now this is more than expected 

810
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,120
and it means a household using a
typical amount of energy will 

811
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:27,280
pay £1755 a year, which is £35 
more than the current cost cap. 

812
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:32,560
But if we look how the energy 
price cap has changed over time,

813
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,480
we can see that energy prices 
have been pretty much normalised

814
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,800
or high energy prices, sorry 
have been pretty much normalised

815
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:43,760
since the so called pandemic. 
And although the so called 

816
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,560
energy price guarantee made it 
seem like government stepped in 

817
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,360
to protect people from the 
excesses of the wholesale energy

818
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,280
markets, in reality they did no 
such thing because while we 

819
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,680
didn't end up paying directly in
our bills, the energy company 

820
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,840
still got paid and every 
taxpayer footed the bill. 

821
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:07,920
So remember that the energy cap 
sets the maximum price for each 

822
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,640
unit of energy, but not the 
total bill, which depends very 

823
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:16,920
much on how much energy we use. 
So this I quoted figure of 1755 

824
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,400
per year is only indicative. 
The question remains, why are 

825
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,800
energy prices so high in the UK?
Could it perhaps be to do with 

826
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,760
renewables and net zero? 
So let's bring this on screen 

827
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,960
then. 
This is Deidre Helm because he's

828
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,240
saying yes in a comment piece 
that he published yesterday. 

829
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,680
Why is the price of electricity 
so high, he asks. 

830
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,640
It's a puzzle, he says, because 
excessive successive 

831
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,640
politicians, Blair, Cameron, 
May, Johnson and now Starmer and

832
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,960
Miliband, lots of lobbyists have
told us we should have expected 

833
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,200
quite the opposite, cheap energy
to be achieved by getting out of

834
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,840
fossil fuels first exit coal, 
then bear down in gas. 

835
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,080
And a new year of cheap wind and
solar would give the UK low 

836
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,560
absolute and relative 
electricity prices. 

837
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,840
And he concludes by saying 
quotes. 

838
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,160
It's hard to sorry. 
It's hard to conclude other than

839
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,880
the Secretary of State is 
deluded when he champions the 

840
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:15,160
2030 net zero target as a route 
to lower cost of energy through 

841
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,040
ever cheaper renewables. 
It's time to be honest about the

842
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,760
costs of the net zero target. 
Now Charles, I don't know what 

843
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,040
your thoughts are, but I would 
say diluted is not the word I 

844
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,280
would use wilfully. 
Lying is much more likely I 

845
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,440
think. 
Absolutely, and and this is 

846
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:34,600
borne out in fact, in that the, 
there are demands both within 

847
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,880
and without the sector for 
further subsidisation of this 

848
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,240
very form of energy in order 
that the price is artificially 

849
00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:45,440
reduced in order to create the 
impression that exactly this is 

850
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,840
happening, that it is becoming 
cheaper to use and cheaper than 

851
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,240
the more reliable traditional 
alternatives. 

852
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:55,920
So yes, absolutely. 
I, I think, you know, you're 

853
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,400
totally right. 
And the other point I would make

854
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,520
is actually in terms of the 
cost. 

855
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,160
The other side of it of course 
is industry. 

856
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,680
And this is something that's 
come up or flared up a few times

857
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,960
this year, specifically with 
regard to steel, where the 

858
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,080
government again is making out 
as though it's trying to 

859
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,120
preserve the steel industry in 
the United Kingdom. 

860
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,560
And this is not exclusive to 
steel, of course, but industry 

861
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,200
in general is absolutely 
penalised on the enormous costs 

862
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,920
of energy that it is having to 
pay directly as a result result 

863
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,160
of what you're what you're 
talking about right now. 

864
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,360
We'll, we'll go directly to a 
specific example now because 

865
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,240
Sandy, you have news for us on 
the development in Somerset. 

866
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,800
Yes, I this came to me, I read a
magazine called The Leveller, 

867
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,880
which is a, a Somerset magazine.
And this isn't an isolated 

868
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,360
thing. 
I mean the unfortunately this is

869
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,920
happening all over our country. 
An 80 acre solar farm is planned

870
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:52,120
to be put up near Somerton. 
And you know it's Sam, it says 

871
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,280
here after it, you know it. 
It will apparently provide 40 

872
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,560
years of power. 
And they said after 40 years, 

873
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,280
the site will be decommissioned 
and returned to its current 

874
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,680
state and arable use. 
Now, interestingly, I mean, 

875
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,000
that's, that's the extent of it.
The, the, the, the map there, 

876
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,240
it's a huge, I mean, it's 80 
acres and this is happening all 

877
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:18,800
over our country and it's taking
the land out of food production 

878
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,240
for 30 to 40 years. 
And a lot of it, I mean, we've, 

879
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:25,080
we're talking thousands and 
thousands of acres and we're 

880
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,800
talking livestock here. 
Most of the land that, that the 

881
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,360
solar farm, they call them 
farms, which is funny because 

882
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,760
they're not farms at all. 
They're anti farms and they're 

883
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,400
being taken out. 
Food production is being taken 

884
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,520
out Now. 
I looked at the, the, the, the, 

885
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,840
oh, there's another, another 
issue that it, it says it will 

886
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:48,680
be restored to, to its former, 
former state, but that it also 

887
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:53,200
is questionable because I did 
some, some work on on risk 

888
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,800
assessments. 
And if solar panels are damaged 

889
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,960
in fire or severe storms or 
landfill crushing, the toxic 

890
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,760
compounds like cadmium and other
trace minerals do leach into the

891
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,840
ground. 
And even, you know, beyond 

892
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:11,040
chemistry, you've got soil 
compaction, loss of farmland, 

893
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:16,160
habitat changes and herbicides 
used to control, you know, 

894
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,840
herbicides used to control 
vegetation underneath. 

895
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:23,560
And actually, you cannot graze 
animals alongside the panels 

896
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,640
because the farmers can't get 
insurance because the animals 

897
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,720
nibble the wires. 
So that is not an option. 

898
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,600
So it's taking out a lot of 
livestock grazing. 

899
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,040
That's what I'm trying, the 
point I'm trying to make now, I 

900
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,600
looked at the National Planning 
Policy Framework document, which

901
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:44,520
is really quite comprehensive. 
And what I've realised is, is if

902
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,760
you actually put a search into 
that and you look at, you look 

903
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:53,440
at the word food, food does not 
come up up into it. 

904
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:56,040
Food production is simply not 
there. 

905
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,840
And well, there's 4, but they're
talking about all sorts of food 

906
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,880
takeaways and food outlets. 
There's no food security 

907
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:08,400
mentioned in this document. 
So it's it's quite interesting 

908
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,360
that food security hasn't is not
in the equation. 

909
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,120
It's all about in they talk 
about environmentalism. 

910
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,280
It's not even environmentalism. 
It's anti environmentalism 

911
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,800
because it destroys, uh, 
landscapes. 

912
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,040
So, umm, int interesting, uh, 
you know, interesting stuff 

913
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,360
there. 
Now the, the next slide, please,

914
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:33,240
is all about, yeah, umm, the 
infrastructure, the, this, this 

915
00:54:33,240 --> 00:54:38,080
is the, the 13 protective 
security infrastructures that we

916
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,400
have in this country. 
And food is one of them. 

917
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,800
And so this needs to be 
protected. 

918
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,360
We've got energy, water, food, 
transport, health, emergency 

919
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,840
services, government, defence, 
finance, telecommunications, 

920
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,160
space, nuclear, civil, nuclear 
and chemicals. 

921
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:58,440
So food is, is to be protected, 
but in no way is it in any of 

922
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,960
these documents from, from the 
government. 

923
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:06,160
We've got the UK Food security 
report, but if you open that up,

924
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:11,480
there's nothing really much 
about food security for, for, 

925
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,960
for the yeah, it's, it's global 
food production they're talking 

926
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,280
about. 
Most of the time it's all about 

927
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,840
global. 
It's not about UK food security.

928
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:25,160
So I did look at things like, 
you know, meat production. 

929
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,320
They did have a little bit on 
that, which was interesting 

930
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,400
because beef production, it's 
the top one and that went down 

931
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:36,280
very slightly because of 
obviously various animal health 

932
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,320
food scares, you know, and 
health scares like BSE and foot 

933
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,000
and mouth and all those things. 
And then you've got 2, two other

934
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,880
diagrams there, which is I think
that's chicken and and pork, 

935
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,480
which went down because of the 
same thing. 

936
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,960
And also decarbonisation of meat
processing plants. 

937
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,640
Lambs tended to stay pretty 
stable, but and eggs went down 

938
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,640
as well. 
So we're everything as far as 

939
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:06,000
meat and dairy is going down 
very slowly, but this will 

940
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,520
impact more the more solar farms
we have because they'll be taken

941
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,960
out of production and that's the
whole idea. 

942
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:14,880
And the next slide I think is 
the C40 cities. 

943
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,760
Yeah, the C40 cities slide which
actually says that, you know, 

944
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,840
they're the progressive target 
for 2030 is 16 kilogrammes of 

945
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,680
meat per person per year. 
And actually the ambitious 

946
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,840
target is 0 kilogrammes meat 
consumption. 

947
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,440
Now we, no, they're not hitting 
their targets because you know, 

948
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,880
20-30 is, you know, we've got 
five years. 

949
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,000
Are they going to make that 
happen? 

950
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,040
Five years, no meat production 
at all, probably their try and 

951
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,920
that's what they're doing. 
So at the moment farmers are 

952
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,880
being incentivized to give up 
their land to renewable energy 

953
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,520
such as solar, wind and housing,
rewilding non food production 

954
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,360
businesses and this will reduce 
production significantly. 

955
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,080
So there's consideration for 
food security, which is 

956
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,720
currently at only about 60% and 
it's declining. 

957
00:57:03,720 --> 00:57:06,040
Our food production is 
declining. 

958
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,360
So if we weren't able to access 
imports, what will we do? 

959
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,800
We've got loads of solar panels 
that are making money for big, 

960
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:19,200
big investors, but and, and, and
wind farms, but not, not, not 

961
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,520
the people. 
So if you do want to oppose this

962
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:26,760
planning application, do try, I,
I think you, you can go on to 

963
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,440
planning application. 
That is the I'll put this in the

964
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:34,440
show notes and there's a 
planning application number or 

965
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,480
or or code and, and 
unfortunately Somerset have 

966
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,800
spent 12 weeks now they're not 
answering their phones, they're 

967
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,200
not answering emails because 
they've got a backlog of 

968
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,080
planning applications. 
What a surprise. 

969
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,520
And so they've closed down shop.
So whether this will be slid in 

970
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,800
under the radar without people 
being able to oppose it, I don't

971
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,880
know Now I'm going to look at 
quickly biodiversity net gain 

972
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,760
because a lot of people don't 
understand what it is. 

973
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,360
And again, there's another, 
there's another UK government 

974
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,840
guidance on it by diversity net 
gain. 

975
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:13,840
And this is a way of creating a 
financial instrument for Land 

976
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,520
Management people, big 
corporations to make money out 

977
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,880
as a financial instrument out of
the land, financialisation of 

978
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,840
nature and all the banks and the
corporations make the money, not

979
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,440
us. 
So here, here's a sort of 

980
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,960
idiot's guide to it if you like.
And so long as you, you actually

981
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,760
there's a net loss if you just 
you, you, you just build and 

982
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:38,240
then there's a, there's no net 
loss if you build and you add a 

983
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,480
few trees. 
And then with this one, you get 

984
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,960
net gain because you, you're not
depleting the countryside and 

985
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,960
you're building and you're 
putting more trees up. 

986
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,960
So it's all about building and 
trees, not about food. 

987
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:55,200
And that's, that's really quite 
interesting in that, uh, so who 

988
00:58:55,200 --> 00:59:00,080
needs to think about BNG? 
And we're looking at BNG really,

989
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,960
uh, it refers to the core groups
and BNG, its developers, 

990
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,880
developers will be, umm, 
required to submit BIOS 

991
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:14,160
biodiversity net gain, umm, so 
that it, it creates a, a, an 

992
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,880
income and that's all it is. 
It's a big income for, for 

993
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:22,360
various sectors like land 
managers, big corporations and, 

994
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,800
and, and banks basically. 
So all of those make loads of 

995
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,560
money out of biodiversity net 
gain. 

996
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,920
It is a financial instrument and
we don't we, you know, it takes 

997
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:36,240
away our food production. 
It doesn't do it Andy. 

998
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,160
Many scams running concurrently 
though. 

999
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,080
And you're quite right on the 
biodiversity net gain. 

1000
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:41,920
Of course, the other thing to 
point out is that there's no 

1001
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:45,480
requirement to have replaced 
before you destroy. 

1002
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,280
So in fact, there's in effect 
there's always an enormous lag 

1003
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,720
which has never really taken 
into account because it really 

1004
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,800
concerns intent, which of course
it shouldn't. 

1005
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,720
I think the other thing to point
out is the, as you quite rightly

1006
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,840
did, the absolute con about 
suggestion that livestock would 

1007
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,920
be able to graze in areas that 
there are solar panels, which of

1008
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,280
course might in certain 
situations be feasible. 

1009
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,680
But you can't cut the grass if 
you want to in order to keep it 

1010
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,200
for hay or any of those sorts of
things. 

1011
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,040
And again, the food security 
report that you refer. 

1012
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:14,800
Referred to is something that 
the Labour government have 

1013
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,880
absolutely put the brakes on, 
having had a commitment written 

1014
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,720
down in law to continue to 
update it. 

1015
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,840
They have absolutely failed in 
that department, one assumes, 

1016
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,240
because they do not want to 
report the true state of 

1017
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,120
affairs, even if they know what 
that is. 

1018
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:34,160
Now we are going to move on to 
deal with what I've described as

1019
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,720
the relationship between public 
health, or at least as it's 

1020
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,720
described, propaganda and media,
especially film. 

1021
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:45,200
Now, the drought situation as 
reported by the Environment 

1022
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,280
Agency is shown on the screen 
now. 

1023
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:53,240
But in effect, this suggests 
that almost half of England is 

1024
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:58,040
in what is called drought, with 
the large quantity of it in a 

1025
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,440
situation of prolonged dry 
weather, with only a few 

1026
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:05,000
regions, interestingly the 
Southeast and the Southwest, 

1027
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:09,520
regarded as being normal. 
So the alarmist rhetoric is not 

1028
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:13,200
exactly borne out by the latest 
data from the Environment 

1029
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,520
Agency. 
But that hasn't stopped certain 

1030
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,920
individuals, or indeed 
organisations, from capitalising

1031
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:24,000
on the the sort of feeling of 
panic. 

1032
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:28,520
And this is the London, the 
Mayor of London's organisation 

1033
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,120
here talking about London cool 
spaces. 

1034
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:36,040
So suggesting that due to 
climate issues and the necessity

1035
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,960
for water in hot weather and all
the rest of it, they have set up

1036
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,000
London Cool spaces, which no 
doubt you can access via an app 

1037
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,440
or something similar. 
The reason I cite this is 

1038
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,720
because Sadiq Khan has a form 
where this is concerned. 

1039
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:55,480
This is him on stage with Matt 
Damon, the founder of what's 

1040
01:01:55,480 --> 01:02:00,480
called water.org can't therefore
making a pledge to connect 

1041
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:05,240
London's activities to those of 
Damon and his worldwide sort of 

1042
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,640
campaign and organisation front 
page. 

1043
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:11,120
The website here described as 
advancing the global 

1044
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,440
conversation. 
Of course, that means that among

1045
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:18,320
the global partners are of 
course, UN, Water, Water Aid, 

1046
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:22,880
World Economic Forum and a 
number of other usual suspects. 

1047
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:28,960
Now, the reason I cite Damon in 
particular andwater.org is 

1048
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:34,280
because he too has form where 
propaganda is concerned and 

1049
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,720
indeed especially the leveraging
of celebrity. 

1050
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,960
So we're going to look back to 
2011 now. 

1051
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,360
And an interview with Matt Damon
after he had released the film 

1052
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:50,520
Contagion among them. 
But right now, our best defence 

1053
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:54,000
has been social distancing, no 
handshaking, staying home when 

1054
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,200
you're sick, washing your hands 
frequently. 

1055
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,840
Let me bring in Alan Crumwood 
into this debate as well. 

1056
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,320
Alan's a freelance journalist. 
He was the first to track the 

1057
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,320
Schinkel Busman video. 
Alan, today on Twitter you wrote

1058
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,720
that the truth about this virus 
is being kept from the world by 

1059
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:13,240
the CDC, by the World Health 
Organisation, to allow friends 

1060
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,280
of the current administration to
benefit from it both financially

1061
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:20,200
and physically. 
There are therapies we know are 

1062
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:23,600
effective right now, like 
forsythia, and they don't even 

1063
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:27,640
appear on the CDC website. 
On your blog you also wrote that

1064
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,800
the World Health Organisation is
somehow in bed with 

1065
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,280
pharmaceutical. 
Companies, because they are. 

1066
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,200
That just stands to gain from 
this. 

1067
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,400
They're working hand in glove. 
What do you think? 

1068
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,480
About the politics behind 
contagion and other pathogens, 

1069
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:45,360
where the government might, on 
the side of caution, not tell 

1070
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,440
everybody till, you know, maybe 
it's too late. 

1071
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:48,960
Like it could be. 
Going on right now, we don't 

1072
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,880
know. 
Well, I mean, I think the media 

1073
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:55,640
would be a big part too, because
because how that was framed to 

1074
01:03:55,640 --> 01:04:01,080
people would would dictate 
really what what the outcome 

1075
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,200
might be. 
I mean, because it's not really 

1076
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,840
about necessarily the virus 
itself. 

1077
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,960
It's about our reaction to it. 
And, you know, if you look at 

1078
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,800
like anthrax, like, what, two 
people died and we shut down the

1079
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:19,040
airline industry, you know, that
that panic is potentially a lot 

1080
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:23,280
more lethal than than than the 
actual virus or could be all 

1081
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:27,920
right now. 
So just to clarify that first of

1082
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,280
all, that was 2011 and secondly,
the first part of that clip was 

1083
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:35,040
actually film. 
Now we go back to look at 

1084
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:38,480
Londons cool spaces because we 
need to have a look at the all 

1085
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:42,000
important message which pops up 
after you've accessed the page 

1086
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,960
and it says when the weather is 
hot you can take simple actions 

1087
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:50,440
to protect your health and the 
health of others. 

1088
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,680
Of course the NHS luckily has 
tips for how to achieve this. 

1089
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,240
But now we're going to go back 
to Matt Damon, who spoke there 

1090
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,960
in 2011, and this is what he had
to say at the behest of Columbia

1091
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:08,480
University in 2020. 
And if you know anybody over the

1092
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:12,200
age of 55 or anyone who has any 
kind of pre existing conditions,

1093
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,280
this is a lot more serious for 
them. 

1094
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:19,760
So you can literally save their 
life just by staying away from 

1095
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:22,120
each other. 
You can actually sit on the 

1096
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:26,160
couch or in a chair like I'm 
doing and watch TV and save a 

1097
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,240
life at the same time. 
You can work from home. 

1098
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:31,160
You can use social media to 
communicate. 

1099
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,880
You can save a few more. 
Now is the time to spend all the

1100
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,680
time you want staring at your 
phone or your tablet. 

1101
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,360
And if anybody gives you a hard 
time about it, tell them not to 

1102
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,440
bother you because you are 
saving lives. 

1103
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,880
Just make sure that you tell 
them that from six feet away. 

1104
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,400
So there we go, the the 
incredible symbiotic 

1105
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,000
relationship between the 
propaganda and the film 

1106
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,240
industries. 
I don't know whether you have 

1107
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,160
any comment in particular on 
Matt Damon or what he said. 

1108
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,080
We'll keep it for extra. 
Yeah, we'll keep it for extra. 

1109
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,160
OK, Well, in which case what 
we'll do is we'll finish off on 

1110
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,960
very much related topic. 
But it would appear that the the

1111
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,600
latest news is that the Monty 
Python team appear to have been 

1112
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:13,840
hired by the UK Health Security 
Agency in order to manage their 

1113
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:18,080
heat health alert programme. 
So I will read it out because it

1114
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:19,720
says please. 
Please complete the form below 

1115
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:24,880
to register to receive both Heat
Health Alerts and Cold Health 

1116
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:27,600
Alerts. 
The alerts are year round with 

1117
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:31,320
the core HHA season running from
the 1st of June to the 30th 

1118
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:35,960
September and the cold heat 
season running from the 1st of 

1119
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,920
November to the 31st of March. 
The Weather Health Alerting 

1120
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,920
System, which is managed by 
UKHSA in partnership with the 

1121
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,520
Met Office, underpins the 
adverse Weather and Health Plan,

1122
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:51,600
which brings together and builds
on the previous heat wave Plan 

1123
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:56,520
for England, first published in 
2004, and the Cold Weather Plan 

1124
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,960
for England, first published in 
2011. 

1125
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,960
Users will be able to specify 
which region they wish to 

1126
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,280
receive alerts for, with the 
ability to be notified for one 

1127
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:10,200
region only or multiple regions 
as required by the user. 

1128
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:15,000
Should a period sorry, should a 
period of heat or cold occur 

1129
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,800
that meets alerting criteria 
outside of the core alerting 

1130
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,320
periods, an extraordinary alert 
will be issued. 

1131
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,480
So there we have it. 
You know where to go in times of

1132
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:30,880
peril if it gets too hot, too 
cold, or none of the above. 

1133
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:35,440
No, don't forget Germ and cars 
are going out this evening. 

1134
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,120
I'll be speaking to Alex 
Thompson at 1:00 tomorrow. 

1135
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,840
If you are a member, please stay
on for extra. 

1136
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,560
And if you're not a member, 
please consider joining us. 

1137
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,800
Otherwise, we will look forward 
to seeing you at 1:00 on Friday.

1138
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,280
And Many thanks to Mike and 
Sandy and indeed Professor David

1139
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:52,960
Miller for joining me on the 
programme. 

1140
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:54,520
Goodbye, bye. 
Bye.