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James Walton, it's been a while.
Thank you for joining me again 

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in the trenches. 
Thanks so much for having me, 

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Jeremy. 
I appreciate it's been a while. 

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Congrats on the family 
expansion, man. 

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How beautiful is that? 
Well, it's part of prepping. 

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Prepping the next generation for
sure, no doubt about it. 

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James. 
Yeah, it's a great adventure. 

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I've chatted to you a few times 
over the last few years and 

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sure, and I love chatting to you
because we cover. 

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We cover something really 
important and nobody talks about

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it enough, I think. 
And that's prepping. 

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That's prepping. 
Yeah, I agree with you. 

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I it's in passing at best 
anymore, you know, it's it's 

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sort of like a build an 
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Things are looking a little 
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But yeah, not a lot of people go
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people go in depth on it outside
of like pre made sort of YouTube

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style content, you know, like 
it's not a lot of free flow and 

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kind of shows like yours where 
you bring a prepper on and 

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really have a conversation with 
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You're right, it is. 
I don't know if people assume 

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they could just figure it out on
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But you're right, there is a. 
There is a lack. 

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I have a feeling it has to do 
with the sort of instant culture

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that we live in, where 
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Could be, could very well be the
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Do you think we're pulling out 
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digging deeper into that? 
I don't know, man. 

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I don't know but. 
But yeah. 

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But that's why I'm chatting too 
with you, so that we can bring 

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it back, we can bring it back to
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Hey, it's essential. 
It's essential. 

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I've told you before about the 
100 year amnesia. 

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You know, we've largely lost the
bulkhead of what skills and 

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understanding of the planet we 
had in 100 years thanks to food 

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and tin cans and TV dinners and,
you know, that kind of stuff, 

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medicine in bottles. 
We just forgot it all in, in the

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span of a hundred, 150 years 
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And now there are legions of 
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back. 
And I think that's a good start,

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you know? 
Yeah. 

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So James, for my UK column 
Audience that doesn't know who 

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you are, let's just quickly 
cover that. 

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Yeah, sure. 
Real quick. 

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What's important about me, I 
think is that I, I'm not pre 

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prior military. 
I'm not I don't have any cool 

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credentials. 
I was a chef before becoming a 

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prepper and freelance writer in 
the in the genre, you know what 

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I mean? 
And since of purchase the 

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Prepper broadcasting network and
we built that into a 15 host 

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podcast network, Spotify, 
iTunes, YouTube everywhere. 

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And you know, now we do almost 
everything there is that can be 

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done through the network 
regarding prepping, 

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homesteading, survival. 
I mean, you know, herbal 

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medicine, foraging, 
blacksmithing, even some health 

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and Wellness and fitness stuff 
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And I've just over the years 
learned alongside my audience 

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and, and we built the Prepper 
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it is, you know, and it's, it's 
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It really has. 
What is prepping? 

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Well, it depends on, you know, 
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I talked to some people who who 
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Mississippi, and they think that
prepping is a funny word for how

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they grew up. 
You know, and, and it's, it's 

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just what it is for me. 
The I'll give you like the 

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esoteric prepping is a way for 
men in particular to access a 

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bunch of lost skills without 
having to explain it or call it 

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a hobby or, you know, things 
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shooting a, a recurve bow and 
arrow, blacksmithing. 

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Those are things that I never 
would have done ever in my life.

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But because I became a prepper, 
all of a sudden I felt like, oh,

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I should learn these skills. 
You know what I mean? 

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Because we're getting prepared 
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For the average person, though, 
I think it is just about being 

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ready for what happens in life. 
You know what, the things that 

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will undoubtedly happen in your 
own life, it will be a job loss 

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or COVID 2020, you know what I 
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Life is full of bumps and ups 
and downs and it's you know, it 

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is a it is a suffering affair 
from time to time and be and 

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when you're prepared, it's you 
just can I give you one more 

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because there is one more that 
is modern, the modern day. 

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I figured this out just this 
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It is also anti anxiety. 
It's an anti anxiety medication 

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for the times. 
I don't think it's always been 

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that way, but what I look at 
nowadays is prepping, 

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homesteading, that this crowd of
people, they have much less 

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anxiety built in because we're 
all feasting on the headlines 

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and the headlines are terrible. 
And if you have no way of 

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dealing with that, then anxiety 
is going to go through the roof.

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You're going to go absolutely 
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Iran and Israel and World War 
Three and you know what I mean, 

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All the stuff that's going on. 
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become sort of a an anti anxiety
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that works. 
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prepping is important and I 
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touched on that, that it, it 
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personally speaking anxiety, but
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level, why does it matter? 
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look at it from a number of 
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I think. 
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because I think we've overshot 
the I think we've overshot the 

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the human path, you know what I 
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I think we're doing, we've gone 
a little too far with 

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technology. 
We've gone a little too far with

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comfort and convenience, 
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And those things pull you back 
self sufficiency. 

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They pull you back so that you, 
you know, you're, you're more of

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a human than what you were, you 
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But like we're, we're cybernetic
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So I think for on a personal 
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important. 
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you, you know, you're going to 
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If you're growing your own food,
if you're cooking your own food,

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you're going to live a healthier
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I think it's one of the I really
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germ have been like, is prepping
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Like is it a health and Wellness
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You know, it really feels that 
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And you know, beyond that from 
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you know, you look at the cost 
of food and, and when you're a 

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prepper, you put food up from 
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years ago, things like that. 
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money into assets like land and 
like silver and maybe even gold.

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that. 
So it, it can touch every aspect

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of your lifestyle. 
You know, and you talk about 

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building your, your children up.
Your children grow up in in a 

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household full of preppers and 
the self reliant mentality, you 

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know, they grow up with chickens
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kind of stuff. 
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creating a different generation 
of kids compared to like me who 

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grew up in the 90s in a suburb 
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like that. 
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man. 
You know, really turning it into

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a lifestyle is the key though. 
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You got to live it. 
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prepping, what are we actually 
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So I mean, if you want to get 
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it, you know it at the 
fundamental level, you want to 

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have food, water, medical 
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definitely backup power. 
Now that's going up the ranks 

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over the last few years, right? 
You want to have at least 6 

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buckets, 7 buckets. 
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another great one that you have 
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What we learned through the last
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when disasters happen, people 
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So a good place to start is 
fortify your home, have enough 

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food in place, have enough water
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around for a while until things 
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I think while the bug out is 
really cool and really an 

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interesting topic, I think most 
people tend to bug in and stay 

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home when when disaster strikes.
And prepping is what gives you 

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the ability to do that because 
you have excess right resources.

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And on top of the resource 
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right? 
So really it is a culmination of

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sort of resources and skills on 
top of what have what the 

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average person sort of carries 
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Give me some examples. 
Sure, you want resources or you 

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want skills. 
Well, start with start with 

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skills. 
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Yeah. 
So one of the most basic, and I 

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think one that a lot of people 
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more in years past is like how 
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know, like, like basic, 
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something that most people 
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I think sort of like the loss of
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in America. 
We don't really kind of put an 

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end to that. 
We don't say Boy and Girl Scouts

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anymore. 
It's them scouts. 

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Oh, the them scouts? 
Is that what it is? 

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I don't know. 
We left a long time ago, but we 

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were in it for a little. 
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They wouldn't let us. 
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That they them scouts, we would,
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without a mask on. 
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We got we got tired of that 
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But yeah. 
So, so skills that like first 

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aid skills like, you know, one 
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fundamental ones is knowing what
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what I mean? 
In terms of like the trees, the 

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plants, the things that have 
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very long time, thousands of 
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across the world, Like everybody
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trees, with roots. 
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we just forgotten. 
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can, you know, over time with 
the help of books, with the help

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of courses, you can relearn 
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At the end of the day, you're 
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relearning, foraging tonnes of 
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I don't know, you know, not 
every country has access to the 

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wild places the way that we do 
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But your front yard is my front 
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which the leaves of dandelion 
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violets that grow, curly duck 
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It's just stuff like right out 
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or, or weed whip, you know what 
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And we've forgotten that their 
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So, you know, those kinds of 
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You know, you can get into the 
tactical, the sort of shooting 

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and, and martial arts and self 
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The home security skill set I 
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You know, people basically tie 
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like a lock on the door handle 
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window, you know, so you can, 
you can develop a better 

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understanding of how to secure 
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It's a, it's a pretty big list, 
you know what I mean? 

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There are, there are aspects of 
prepping the touch on almost 

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anything that fortifies your 
life fundamentally makes it 

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better and makes you healthier. 
You know, as far as I can tell 

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anyway, The, the, what's really 
been lost in the prepping 

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community lately is the doom of 
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The, the mainstream media has 
kind of taken over the Doom, 

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whereas we used to use the Doom 
as a platform to sort of propel 

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our ideas. 
Now it seems like, like I said, 

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it seems more like we're pushing
a lifestyle on people anymore, 

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you know, and that lifestyle is 
the things that you learn in the

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house and you know, outside the 
house, the raising of chickens, 

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the raising of things like I 
spent the last 3-4 months 

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raising quail before they were 
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But that was a new, new thing 
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know what I mean? 
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Yeah, it's just like. 
It's a tributary with, I'm 

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sorry, it's a river with many 
tributaries, man. 

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Like you can go down all kinds 
of different routes with 

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prepping and learn and and 
always be welcome and always be 

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learning. 
And it's yeah, it's been a great

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life because. 
But I'll tell you that much. 

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But it sounds like you're only 
talking about living in the 

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countryside. 
I mean, what about the millions 

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and millions of people that live
in the city centre? 

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Well, I live in the suburbs 
actually. 

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I live in a suburb. 
I live on less than an acre of 

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land. 
I had that. 

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Well, our host Jordan was living
in South Carolina in Myrtle 

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Beach. 
She had chickens and she was 

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living in a condominium, you 
know what I mean? 

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I have a guy who lives on the 
mountainside, right? 

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And he has a tremendous 
homestead. 

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Dave Jones, the NBC guy, he's, 
he'd be a great guest on the 

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show too. 
But he lives on multiple acres, 

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farms, all kinds of different 
animals, gardens, everything he 

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does germ is on 1 1/2 to 2 acres
of land. 

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So there is a misnomer that you 
need a large plot of land to do 

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things like we have apple trees,
fig trees, raspberries, paw paw 

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trees. 
I don't know if you know what 

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those are gardens, you know, 
perennial plants that grow in 

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the front and the backyard. 
And we're in the suburbs. 

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You know, I, I really think that
now, if you're in the city 

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centre like you're talking 
about, it's going to be a harder

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lift. 
But I really do think that the 

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massive Americans are capable of
doing, and probably people in 

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cities all over the world are, 
are capable of doing a lot more 

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than they do. 
And they use the idea of, well, 

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I'm not on 10 acres, so I can't 
do any of the cool stuff as kind

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of an excuse, you know what I 
mean? 

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One day I'll get that big plot 
of land and I'll do all those 

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cool things. 
I don't plan on getting a big 

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plot of land. 
You know, we're we're. 

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We can do plenty with what we 
have. 

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But I mean, I think the idea of 
prepping is not necessarily to 

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have, you know, 100% knowledge 
of everything. 

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I mean, it's it's it's. 
Oh no, it's. 

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An it's an ongoing journey. 
It's a lifestyle for sure. 

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Yeah, it's definitely a 
lifestyle. 

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But, you know, in the early 
days. 

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And I think that's kind of what 
you're asking about in the early

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days of prepping when you're 
just getting started. 

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You are shoring up before you 
get into all the fancy, you 

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really are shoring up food, 
water, home security, first aid 

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knowledge and also skill sets. 
You know what I mean? 

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You're you're covering what I 
call the base level of 

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preparedness. 
First you got to do those 

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things. 
First you want to be prepared 

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for. 
Whatever kind of weather events,

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natural disasters that hit your 
area on a regular basis, that's 

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a great place to start. 
You know what I mean to say? 

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We get hit by hurricanes. 
Whatever it is, I want to be 

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prepared for that. 
This is what I need. 

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Backup power, Gas generator, 
gasoline. 

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Whatever it is because 
everybody's circumstance is a 

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little different, but at the 
beginning you really are 

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establishing your position and 
then you know, deciding how 

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well. 
Prepared you want to be? 

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Do I want to have? 
A week's worth of food, a week's

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worth of water. 
You know, you talk to me, I say 

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a lot more than that. 
You need a lot more than that. 

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Three to six months is probably 
where you want to be, you know, 

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looking at the world nowadays. 
But all that takes time. 

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It takes tremendous time to have
the things that I have and do 

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the things that I do because 
that's what it is, you know? 

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But if you're just getting 
started, you can choose that 

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timeline that you want to be 
safe and fortified in your home,

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at home, one week, two weeks, 
one month, whatever it is. 

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And you build on that with, like
I said, food, water, the ability

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to keep the lights on, charge 
devices, maybe some sort of 

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emergency communications. 
And you'll be better prepared 

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than most people around you, you
know, just by taking action on 

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those few things. 
And if you want to get excited 

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about it, start off with your 
daily carry. 

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Oh, the EDC, the old EDC. 
Yeah, that's. 

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Is that still popular? 
That was a big thing, the EDC, 

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for a long time. 
I still enjoy it. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, oh, it is fun, no doubt 

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about it. 
I mean, it is a it's a good 

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thing. 
It's a good thing. 

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Mine's expanded over the years. 
My EDC includes like my entire 

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fishing outfit now. 
What? 

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It does like I have a backpack. 
I always carry a backpack 

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because I like to have like 
running shoes on and shorts 

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because when the summer hits man
I just I love running and 

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working out in the hot weather. 
And So what I always carry a bag

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because you can't always holster
A firearm effectively in certain

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kinds of shorts, you know what I
mean? 

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So I've put it in the backpack. 
And then over the years, I just 

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realised that fishing is just 
always happening in life, you 

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know, And it's one of those 
things that just because we all 

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do it in my house. 
That I just carry a fishing 

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backpack and it's not that big. 
It's also kind of a grey Manny 

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type thing, right? 
I don't have a tactical backpack

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on where people are like what's 
up with that guy? 

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It's a cast king backpack and 
you know it has fishing gear in 

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it and also has, you know, spare
magazines, tourniquet, you know,

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sewing kit, some what else do I 
have in that thing? 

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Prepper later, like a recharge 
power bank in there. 

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Those kinds of things you can 
carry bore in a backpack. 

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You know what? 
I mean, spare knife, those kinds

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of things, so. 
I always carry a knife on me. 

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Always. 
Yeah, why not? 

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It's good to have a blade. 
It stinks when you don't have 

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one and you need it, you know? 
It's actually, it's actually 

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incredible how often you end up 
using a knife. 

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Yeah. 
I'll tell you what I don't carry

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as much is a flashlight. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, but you don't need to if 
you have a cell phone. 

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That's a good point. 
That's a good point. 

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I think I probably should carry 
a headlamp. 

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They are valuable. 
I'd rather nowadays, like there 

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was a time when you had to have 
a cool tactical flashlight, you 

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know what I mean? 
Like you had to have like an O 

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Lite S1R flashlight when you 
were in the EDC crowd. 

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I've got 1. 
Do you? 

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I mean, I have one too. 
They're great. 

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But now at this stage in my 
life, having done the things 

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that I've done, you know, I take
AI, take an Energizer headlamp 

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over anything, you know what I 
mean? 

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Because then both my hands are 
free. 

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I can aim it, you know what I'm 
looking at. 

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I'm actually lighting up and not
forfeiting a hand. 

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I don't have to find a magnetic 
thing to stick it to if I want 

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to free up my other hand. 
The headlamp is just far 

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superior. 
But it's not cool, you know what

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I mean? 
It's nowhere near as cool as 

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like a tactical aircraft grade 
aluminium flashlight. 

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But I mean, it's not just about 
what you carry, it's also 

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knowing how to use this stuff. 
Oh yeah, yeah, that's 99% of 

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people's problem nowadays over 
here. 

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I have AI have a backpack that 
just came in for review and it's

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full of stuff, you know what I 
mean? 

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And and I go through these 
backpacks from time to time that

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you can buy pre made. 
And you know, the biggest 

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struggle when you buy a pre made
backpack is not even choosing 

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which one to buy, though if you 
want a recommendation, Lt 

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survivals, they're the best of 
the best and the most 

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affordable. 
It's it's actually using what's 

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inside the bag, you know what I 
mean? 

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And learning how to use what's 
inside the bag. 

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And this is really tough for 
people who, particularly if 

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you're not a camper slash hiker,
it's not a lot of opportunity 

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for you to do it. 
You know, there's not a lot 

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opportunity for you to get out 
there with a survival bag on 

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your back, walk it somewhere, 
open it up, pull out the 

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emergency radio, pull out the 
whatever you're going to cook on

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right, the jet, jet boy or 
whatever it is in there it. 

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So you got to build that into 
into your life. 

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You got to build those things 
into your life for sure. 

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But in terms of EDC, the biggest
thing in the States is I know 

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there's a bunch of people 
running around with the firearms

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they never shoot, maybe I've 
never shot, you know what I 

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mean, as part of their EDC. 
You got to go to the range. 

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You got to go to the range. 
You got to also put yourself in 

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in, you know, serious position. 
You have to understand, probably

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the most fundamental for anybody
who's carrying a firearm and 

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thinks they're going to use it 
is, you know, know your target 

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and what's beyond it. 
You know, Oh my God, there's a 

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bad guy. 
Let me shoot him. 

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Oh, wait, there's a little girl 
behind him, you know, and I 

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missed because I'm not that good
a shot, right? 

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That's that doesn't happen here,
surprisingly. 

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But if things get kinetic in a 
lot of different places, it will

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happen, you know, because you 
have to be intentional about it.

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You learn it here when you go to
get like a hunting licence, you 

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learn that mentality because you
could shoot somebody in the face

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who's wearing camo across the 
field if you're not careful. 

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But yeah, same thing with 
medical, you know, you pack a 

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bunch of medical. 
I I got real scared because it 

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was, it was becoming 
increasingly popular to carry an

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entire individual first aid kit 
with all kinds of medical gear 

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in it. 
And one of the things that was 

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packed into these was 
decompression needle that you 

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would stab somebody in the lung 
with should their lung have been

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punctured and filled with blood.
And one of my worst fears was 

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like, I get into some kind of 
situation and then some doofus 

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with a knife fact doesn't know 
how to use it, come start 

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stabbing me with the 
decompression needle in the 

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heart or something. 
You know what I mean? 

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You know, trying to do good. 
So, yeah, to your point, got to 

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put some reps in cooking is the 
dark horse skill, though. 

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It really is Like I didn't know 
that when I got into this thing.

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The carryover skills from being 
a chef, you know, like just like

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put knowing how to butcher stuff
huge knowing, you know, how to 

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separate ball joints from 
sockets. 

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You know what I mean? 
In in animals a big deal. 

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Well, you hunt, you know, and. 
Yeah, but I mean, I don't, I 

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don't know that stuff. 
Oh, you don't butcher your 

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stuff, you send it off. 
Yeah, I, I mean, it's fun. 

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I don't, I don't like to get, I 
don't like to get into the 

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animal too. 
Much like I'm not a fan either, 

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to be honest with you. 
I don't really like killing very

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much, but I do it when it's got 
to be done, you know? 

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I just want to point out just on
that, since you mentioned 

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hunting, yes, I do hunt and 
people think you hate animals if

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you do that. 
I actually think it's a far 

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better way to to get meat or you
go hunting than than than via 

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slaughterhouse. 
You know, and also just because 

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you're shooting an animal 
doesn't mean you hate the 

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animal. 
You you're trying your very best

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to be as precise and efficient 
as possible. 

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Yeah, it's no fun. 
You know, like, I've butchered a

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lot of things, killed a lot of 
animals that not even hunting, 

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like harvesting pigs, you know, 
I mean, that kind of stuff at, 

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you know, different places with 
different hosts from PBN. 

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And it always sucks for me. 
I never feel good, you know what

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I mean? 
Like, I'll never like feel 

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really good about it. 
I always kind of carry guilt 

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about killing stuff and I think 
that's good. 

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I would hate it if I lost that, 
you know what I mean? 

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I would hate it if I could just 
kill something and be like, you 

440
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know, I feel like once that goes
away you lose something. 

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But yeah, with the cost of food 
and everything nowadays and the 

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and the quality of food, like 
cooking is a thing, you know, 

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cooking is a literally a life 
saving thing. 

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I think if you were to rely on 
eating out exclusively and pre 

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00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,680
made foods exclusively, like you
probably lose a decade off your 

446
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:23,480
life. 
I bet. 

447
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,960
I bet a study could show the 
difference pretty easily between

448
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,920
people who ate home cooked meals
for most of their life compared 

449
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,240
to people who ate pre made 
prefab frozen fast food, 

450
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,680
whatever meals. 
Health has to be radically 

451
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,280
different, you know, rat, just 
from the sheer amount of 

452
00:25:40,360 --> 00:25:43,480
additives and things that go 
into you from a lifetime of 

453
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:49,040
that, you know, so. 
You mentioned survival earlier. 

454
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,520
I had the great pleasure of 
interviewing guy by the name of 

455
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,920
Cody Lundeen. 
Have you heard? 

456
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,080
Oh yeah, I loved Cody Lundeen 
when he was on with Dual. 

457
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,120
Survival. 
Very, very few people who are at

458
00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:04,160
his level. 
Oh, Cody, Yeah, he's all the way

459
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,880
in. 
I remember watching an episode 

460
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,360
with my wife and they were on a 
mountain and covered in snow 

461
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:11,920
and, and my man had socks on and
that's it. 

462
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,040
Normally he's barefoot, but for 
this episode he went way out, 

463
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,600
put a pair of socks on. 
I was blown away. 

464
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,960
So. 
Yeah, I mean he, he turned it 

465
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,600
into a, a, an art. 
Yeah, yeah. 

466
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,480
It's, I mean it, you know, in 
many ways it is. 

467
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:33,240
It all comes down to like the 
the amount of time in a day, you

468
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,440
know what I mean? 
Like you, the only way you can 

469
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,840
be a Cody Lundin is if it pays 
the bills and you're in the 

470
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,560
woods all the time, you know, 
and most of us don't have that 

471
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,680
privilege. 
So you got to figure out where 

472
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,280
you want to spend your attribute
points. 

473
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:51,000
You know, life is definitely 
like a video game, right? 

474
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,720
You get a certain amount of time
and attribute points and got to 

475
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,760
figure out where to spend them, 
you know, And that's, that's one

476
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,040
of the biggest challenges for 
well, really for everyone. 

477
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,440
But when you're in the prepping 
world, it's a huge challenge for

478
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,080
sure. 
The whole thing though, is that 

479
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,480
I mean the term prepper. 
It's strange to me because it 

480
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,320
kind of sets you apart where the
whole point of prepping is just 

481
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,240
to be prepared for eventualities
in your daily life. 

482
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,320
Oh yeah, It's a divisive word. 
It's divisive in the community. 

483
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,480
There are people who are 100% 
preppers who are like, don't 

484
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,160
call me a prepper. 
I don't like that word. 

485
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,080
You know, it's definitely it. 
It is a word that has power. 

486
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,520
There's no doubt about it. 
It's a weird one because if you 

487
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,040
just came out and said that you 
did the things that a prepper 

488
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,280
does but didn't use the P word, 
people would be like, oh, that 

489
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,000
sounds like a pretty cool life. 
But the moment you say I'm a 

490
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,120
prepper, A doomsday prepper, 
then it's like, this guy's 

491
00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:48,720
crazy. 
And now we look at everybody 

492
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,080
else in the world who's not a 
prepper and we go, these people 

493
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,160
are crazy. 
Can you imagine living on a 

494
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,840
planet like this at a time like 
this and not having extra food 

495
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,680
and what? 
It seems insane to me, you know 

496
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,480
what I mean? 
Not carrying a gun, not knowing 

497
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,560
how to defend yourself in a 
world like the one we live in, 

498
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,960
not being situationally aware. 
I mean, situational awareness is

499
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:16,080
probably, if you could, if you 
could figure out a way, and 

500
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,080
maybe I should, to train the 
world on situational awareness 

501
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,840
like you'd be a billionaire 
because it's a skill you don't 

502
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,200
need a gun for. 
But. 

503
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,720
The peripheral vision. 
Peripheral is a part of it, but 

504
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,800
yes, situational awareness is 
the concept that we've all lost 

505
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,720
because of our cell phones, 
which is just understanding 

506
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,720
what's going on around you at 
all times and what threat level 

507
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,560
you're experiencing, you know, 
and it's an important skill that

508
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,680
almost no one like takes 
advantage of anymore because 

509
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,320
we're all like this, you know 
what I mean? 

510
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,840
We're walking through the world 
like this distracted, so it's a 

511
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:54,120
big one though. 
You said water cooking, fitness 

512
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,320
huge. 
Yeah, another do you? 

513
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,320
Say food, water, medical. 
Medical. 

514
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,960
Yeah, I just before even before.
Well, basic medical, right? 

515
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,920
You don't have no medicine and 
no way to stop bleeding in your 

516
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,160
house. 
But I'll tell you the one that I

517
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,680
think it should be way up there,
probably right under food and 

518
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,640
water is backup power. 
You know, we are a power hungry 

519
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,360
society and our and our greatest
survival tool of all, whether 

520
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,400
you want to admit it or not, is 
that you know what I mean? 

521
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,840
That thing does so much for you 
in terms of dealing with a real 

522
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,760
deal emergency, right? 
Should the cell signal be gone 

523
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,240
and all that? 
That's a different story. 

524
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,760
But in most cases you want to 
figure out what's going on, 

525
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,760
what's the weather like? 
When's it going to end? 

526
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,240
Where's the threat? 
You know, call people that you 

527
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,800
care about. 
All that's going to be done on 

528
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,680
your cell phone. 
So at the very least, you know, 

529
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,280
backup power should be something
that you have on hand to some 

530
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,520
degree. 
And that could be as cheap and 

531
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,280
as simple as like I always 
recommend a laptop power bank. 

532
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,840
You can buy like power banks 
that are like a, you know, like 

533
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,560
a stick and they don't really do
really well. 

534
00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,720
They barely charge your cell 
phone. 

535
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,720
But if you buy a laptop power 
bank, they're about like this 

536
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,840
size. 
You could charge your phone 

537
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,760
multiple times on it or charge 
your phone, your wife's phone. 

538
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,320
You know, if you can't, if you 
can't get anything else, can't 

539
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,320
afford anything else and you 
just need some concept, the 

540
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,600
backup power, that's probably 
the cheapest way to go with the 

541
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,320
most effect. 
We've got a great book here. 

542
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,320
Let's see if I can get this to 
show on the camera. 

543
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,120
To the art of war. 
Big Book. 

544
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,680
John Seymour, The New Complete 
Book of Self Sufficiency. 

545
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,760
Oh man, that's very cool, that 
is. 

546
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,600
I think that is. 
That is a whopper, wow. 

547
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,040
And you got to build it, you 
know what I mean? 

548
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,720
And the only way you build it is
through hard, struggly type 

549
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,400
things, you know, And, and 
that's why I think the fitness 

550
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,680
is, is such an unparalleled 
thing when it comes to prepping 

551
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,440
because they're meditation. 
Meditation is a lot harder than 

552
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,080
you think. 
That's one of those things where

553
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,040
you can really build a sort of 
an unbreakable mindset. 

554
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:00,920
I challenge. 
Any Marcus? 

555
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,920
Go ahead, Marcus Aurelius. 
Oh, for sure. 

556
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,120
Yeah. 
Yeah, it's a that's a tough one,

557
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,120
sitting still quietly without 
your phone. 

558
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,280
You know what I mean? 
That stuff. 

559
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:15,080
But really, physically demanding
workouts is, to me, the best way

560
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,560
to build your willpower to build
that mindset. 

561
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,200
About that, yeah, just for a 
moment, just for a moment. 

562
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,880
I know this is not going to 
interest a lot of. 

563
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,000
Let's I've got a. 
Great example because I, just 

564
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,440
yesterday I, I posted a, our 
prep, we have a prepper fit and 

565
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,160
health section on our website, 
pbnfamily.com. 

566
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,200
And I posted a, a heavy 
kettlebell workout routine for 

567
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,160
our members over there. 
And that was a, that is the 90 

568
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,560
LB Bigfoot kettlebell from on 
it.com. 

569
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,840
I don't even know if they sell 
it anymore. 

570
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,880
Actually, I got it years ago, 
but it's so sweet. 

571
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,000
It's, it's a kettlebell with 
Bigfoot. 

572
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,240
The head is, you know, Bigfoot 
and there's, you know, there's 

573
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,600
not a lot you can do with a 90 
LB kettlebell unless you're a 

574
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,120
real animal. 
And so I wanted to put together 

575
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,640
a workout that could show you, 
you know, deadlift, swings, 

576
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,120
squats, overhead presses with 90
lbs. 

577
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,840
You can do that if you're 
strong. 

578
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,760
And yeah, it's those things that
are demand. 

579
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,800
This is why I like to work out 
in the heat like I talked about 

580
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:19,160
earlier, because the heat adds 
another, another desire to quit.

581
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,600
And that's really all it is 
right at the end of the day, 

582
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,520
that that what you're talking 
about in survival mindset is 

583
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:31,360
just recognising when your 
body's like, I want to quit and 

584
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,000
then push them past that. 
It happens easy with workouts. 

585
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,200
It happens. 
Really. 

586
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,200
You get to it real easy when 
you're working out in the heat. 

587
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,080
Your body's like, we need to 
quit, it's too hot, bad things 

588
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,440
are going to happen if you don't
quit. 

589
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,640
And then you just push through, 
push through. 

590
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,600
And you know, you hear it. 
Everybody hears that little 

591
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,520
voice, you know. 
I really do enjoy pushing some 

592
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,560
weights. 
Of course, since the birth of 

593
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,720
our of our little boy, it's been
very, very difficult, but it's 

594
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,440
getting a little bit easy now. 
I'll tell you what, But I'll 

595
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,600
tell you one thing that really 
helps when your boy gets old 

596
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,440
enough. 
My kids started doing this out 

597
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,720
of nowhere. 
I don't think my wife likes it 

598
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,600
very much, but it's so 
motivational that I can't stop 

599
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,120
them from doing it. 
They call me fat all the time. 

600
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,240
My wife. 
Does that like dad like dad's 

601
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,800
fat right joke? 
Like, dude, like joking because 

602
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,720
I'm not fat at all, but just 
like hearing it on a regular 

603
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,880
basis, you get a whole nother 
gear out when you're running or 

604
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,960
working out. 
And James, yeah, go ahead. 

605
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,400
When you're, when you're, when 
your wife tells you you're fat, 

606
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,240
that that cuts. 
Oh, I'm sure it does, but there 

607
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,400
might be something to it. 
Jerm, you might be living too 

608
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,360
good. 
Yeah, but I mean, look, you 

609
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,680
know, just on, on that. 
I mean, this doesn't interest 

610
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:54,400
many people, but I really do 
enjoy, you know, weight 

611
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,960
training, more specifically 
barbell training. 

612
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,840
And I've got my own setup in my 
in my garage. 

613
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,440
So I'm I'm a member of at the 
gym and I have my own setup in 

614
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:02,880
the. 
Garage. 

615
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,080
I'm trying to I'm trying to 
decide which which I prefer, but

616
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,400
I think I'm going to go back to 
my. 

617
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,440
I'd say keep both my advice go 
ahead. 

618
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,239
Well I was going to say I I find
going to the gym more 

619
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,480
motivational. 
My advice to people, especially 

620
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,920
when they're just starting to 
work out, is to build a 

621
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,320
programme with as many options 
as possible. 

622
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,280
Like you should have as many 
options as possible. 

623
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,159
I have probably 10 different 
things I could do to work out, 

624
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,679
you know what I mean? 
And I think that's vital because

625
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:35,000
I think you wake up some days 
and you're like, I don't want to

626
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,639
bench press today. 
That seems boring. 

627
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,159
You know, I'd much rather swing 
kettle bells or go for a run or 

628
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:47,800
do yoga or play VR boxing. 
Dude, the VR boxing is off the 

629
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,800
charts right now. 
It's unbelievable. 

630
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,320
You'll lose all. 
Kinds of weight. 

631
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,880
You start doing that, you might 
have a heart attack. 

632
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,880
You put something over your 
eyes. 

633
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:57,680
Oh, it's tremendous. 
It's a game called Thrill of the

634
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,360
Fight, too. 
Look it up. 

635
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,000
It's crazy. 
They have online multiplayer 

636
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,680
now, Jeremy, you can fight 
little kids from across the 

637
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,240
world, knock them out. 
It's fun. 

638
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,520
No, it is a hell of a workout, 
though, to be honest. 

639
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,440
I work out a lot and it is a 
hell of a workout, really. 

640
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,360
But having those options gives 
you the ability to say, I don't 

641
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,840
really want to work out today, 
but maybe I do want to go like 

642
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,200
hike in the woods or something 
like that, you know, So put it 

643
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,480
all on the table and it makes 
working out easier. 

644
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:33,080
Something that we do fairly 
often is, I want to say camping,

645
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,800
but sometimes more often than 
not, it's glamping. 

646
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,040
So. 
I got you. 

647
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,560
But the the point is, is that 
we'll try and get out, you know,

648
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,280
into nature. 
Yeah, I went out one on a like a

649
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,240
freezing cold January a few 
years back by myself and just 

650
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:52,920
set up camp. 
I didn't even wind up sleeping 

651
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,280
there, but I set up camp all 
day, put the tent up. 

652
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,160
I had the camping stove. 
I don't know if you ever use one

653
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,520
of those in the winter. 
They're fun. 

654
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,920
And it was probably around like 
8-6 or eight hours into the 

655
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,840
whole thing where I was just 
like, I felt like free of 

656
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,440
everything, you know what I 
mean? 

657
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,120
Like, I guess it was enough time
away from the phone and the 

658
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,600
electronics and the Wi-Fi 
burning into your brain that it 

659
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,000
was just like, Oh my God, I've 
levelled up. 

660
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,040
So down here we have what's 
known as the Kalahari Desert. 

661
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,480
Yeah, that's a big, it's a big 
stretch of of of desert in the 

662
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,720
southern part of Africa. 
Huge. 

663
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:33,880
It stretches across countries. 
You. 

664
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:38,680
Can't be Kalahari desert. 
We, yes, we did about two years 

665
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,200
ago. 
That's how scary. 

666
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,840
Well, it's, I mean, it depends. 
It's huge. 

667
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,360
So you, you, you go to like a 
game park. 

668
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,240
Oh, like. 
A campaign and you camp in the 

669
00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:52,200
game park, which is what exactly
what we did. 

670
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:58,440
And I'll tell you what, it's 
beautiful, just that sun, the, 

671
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:03,120
the heat, you know, driving, 
driving through the sand, seeing

672
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,280
animals, you know, really 
appreciating nature, you know, 

673
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,680
at its most extreme. 
And then of course, we have 

674
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,560
stuff in the vehicle. 
But you know, I, I took, I took 

675
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,960
Flint along just to how? 
To play around I liked. 

676
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,480
Yeah, just to play around. 
It's so much fun starting a fire

677
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,200
with leaves and twigs and Flint 
and. 

678
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,000
Yeah, you. 
I mean, it's a. 

679
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,600
Good way to practise. 
That's that's how it works. 

680
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,680
You know, you don't just learn 
because you need to know the 

681
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,880
skill, right? 
You always revert to your lowest

682
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,480
level of training. 
That's what they say, and that's

683
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,440
practical in the. 
Pressing world, but it's a funny

684
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,000
twist. 
It's a funny twist, this one 

685
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,800
camper, he saw me doing this and
I was struggling a little bit 

686
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,320
with this Flint and not with the
Flint, but but with the with the

687
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:54,440
leaves getting a going And he 
came, he walked all the way 

688
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,680
across and he said, listen, I 
can see that you're struggling. 

689
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,280
Can I can I help you with some 
matches? 

690
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,000
I said no, no, no, I've got 
matches. 

691
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,240
You're. 
Missing the point, Bella. 

692
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,240
The whole point of prepping 
James is simply self sufficiency

693
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:10,680
and not relying on the 
government and other people. 

694
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,840
Yeah, yeah. 
It's really not a that radical 

695
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,040
an idea. 
It's basically how people have 

696
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,440
survived for a long time. 
It's a little more isolated than

697
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,120
like tribal living, I guess was 
probably back then. 

698
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,640
But it really is about that. 
And and because at the end of 

699
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,560
the day, Jeremy, I don't know 
what your experience has been, 

700
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:33,000
but my experience has been to 
rely on those institutions. 

701
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,560
You usually get let down. 
Sometimes you're even worse off,

702
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,760
you know what I mean? 
Look at people who got shoved 

703
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,280
into the Superdome in New 
Orleans during Katrina. 

704
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,720
They relied on the government to
set up a place, a safe place for

705
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:49,760
them. 
That place was filled with rapes

706
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,880
and robberies and the whole 9. 
It was worse off than if they'd 

707
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,080
been left to their own devices. 
So I really do think it is it, 

708
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,960
you know, you're always going to
look out for yourself and your 

709
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,280
family better than anybody else.
There's no government official 

710
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,560
that's going to say, I wonder 
how Jeremy's doing. 

711
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,720
Let's go check his family out 
and give them everything they 

712
00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:10,080
need, You know what I mean? 
So it comes down to you, you 

713
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,520
know, at the end of the day. 
If somebody is, you know, a 

714
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,480
complete urban dweller and 
they're listening to this 

715
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,040
conversation, James, and they're
thinking, all right, I'm 

716
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:24,800
inspired, where do I start? 
First thing I would do is give 

717
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,760
someone a phone call outside of 
the city. 

718
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,080
Establish that first place that 
you're going to go if the worst 

719
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:36,080
case scenario happens in your 
city so that you know the red 

720
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,080
lights are blinking. 
If you're if you're into 

721
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,320
prepping, chances are you might 
even have a little bit of a head

722
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,560
start, but you can get out of 
that city if need be. 

723
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,880
That's probably the best place 
to start first because it's 

724
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,120
actionable, it's free, and it's 
usually like a phone call away. 

725
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,800
You're calling an aunt, an 
uncle, a friend, a parent, 

726
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,160
whatever, and just saying, hey, 
things get bad, I'm coming, I'll

727
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,720
bring XY and Z and me. 
Maybe you can work with them to 

728
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:03,160
store a little extra stuff at 
their house too, so that they're

729
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,800
ready to take you in when you 
show up, you know, but. 

730
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,840
That's sort of like the poor 
man's bug out location. 

731
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,040
And it's it's what everybody in 
the city needs because you don't

732
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,920
want to be trapped in the city, 
you know, And then from there, 

733
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,560
you know, you establish what, 
what's that route look like? 

734
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,120
So what, how am I getting it out
of this city? 

735
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,200
What kind of gear might I need? 
What kind of backpack should I 

736
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,000
put together? 
What should I wear so I don't 

737
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,480
look like, you know, you don't 
want to kick the door out and 

738
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,600
look like some kind of tactical 
madman with a Kevlar helmet on 

739
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,240
or you're going to draw a lot of
attention, right? 

740
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:39,280
You want to look like you look 
like everybody else in your city

741
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,760
and just Mosey on out of there 
to safety. 

742
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,440
So those two things I think are 
critical before you start, 

743
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,400
before you start planning how 
you're going to grow food on 

744
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,760
your rooftop, your quails in 
your closet, you know what I 

745
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,800
mean? 
But you can stockpile food and 

746
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,640
water in an apartment, in a 
studio, you know, you can put 

747
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,000
1020 cases of water in the 
corner of even a small studio 

748
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,880
and have a lot of water, 
particularly for 1-2 people 

749
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,560
should water problems occur. 
You know, here in the city where

750
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,440
I live, we've had two instances 
where the water has been shut 

751
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,280
off for days at a time or had to
be boiled this year alone. 

752
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,600
Real legitimate issues with the 
water. 

753
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,080
And that's a problem most people
can solve and get through. 

754
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,240
But just medium prepping, you 
know, minor preps. 

755
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:26,640
The thing the thing though, is 
that people will worry that the 

756
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,000
water will go stale or the food 
will go off. 

757
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,200
Well, you got to rotate your 
food. 

758
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:35,120
Your water is going to be fine. 
You know, if you need water, 

759
00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:39,600
you're not going to be like, 
this is not Perrier, you know 

760
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,520
what I mean? 
You're going to be like, oh, we 

761
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,640
got bottled water. 
We're good. 

762
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,920
Because remember, if you have 
older water, you can use that 

763
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,680
for washing. 
You know what I mean? 

764
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,680
You can use that for hygiene, 
whatever and drink the newest 

765
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,640
stuff. 
But with food, you got to rotate

766
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,120
your inventory just like anybody
else, anywhere else. 

767
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,120
You know, you store extra food 
and you store the food that you 

768
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,400
eat, right? 
You don't say we're going to 

769
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,480
store a bunch of black beans 
because that's what the preppers

770
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,280
store. 
I never eat them, but we're 

771
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,680
going to store them. 
You know, you store what you eat

772
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,720
so that you're rotating the 
stock anyway and that that way 

773
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:14,640
you're never really stuck with 
too much food that's too old. 

774
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,840
You know, that's sort of like 
inventory management 101 just on

775
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,760
a civilian or, or you know, 
citizen scale. 

776
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,800
What about something like meat? 
You have a deep freeze or 

777
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,720
something? 
You know, we just went through a

778
00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:34,880
survival exercise where we ate 
survival food three days a week 

779
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,720
and nothing four days a week. 
And one of the big what? 

780
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:42,600
Nothing that we couldn't forge 
or hunt or kill or fish. 

781
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,680
And one of the things that I 
found out is everybody needs 

782
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,040
more protein and everybody needs
more shelf stable protein, 

783
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,560
myself included. 
And I have chickens that produce

784
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,080
eggs and that kind of stuff 
Outback. 

785
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,160
But a freezer's OK. 
You know, when the power goes 

786
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,560
out though, you're on a very 
short window and and then maybe 

787
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,120
you have hundreds of dollars 
worth of meat that you're going 

788
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,680
to lose. 
There are really good companies 

789
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,440
out there, Caveman Foods, 
Keystone Foods that produce 

790
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,000
decent, way better than your 
average canned meat. 

791
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,400
There are companies out there. 
There's a company out there 

792
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,240
called Prepper Beef that 
produces freeze dried steaks 

793
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,600
diced so you can get strip steak
diced up, precooked, freeze 

794
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,920
dried. 
The other the thing that I'm 

795
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,200
going to do is put protein 
powder on the shelf. 

796
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,200
A lot more of it, a lot more of 
it because I supplemented with 

797
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,640
that protein powder through our 
survival hell month and it made 

798
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,760
a world of difference. 
I mean, it really did make a 

799
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,720
world of difference. 
And in a, in a, in a bad 

800
00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:47,000
situation, you're going to want 
a protein source that's quick 

801
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,840
and easy, something like that 
stirred in the water drink and 

802
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,680
you got 360 calories and 30 
grammes of protein, something 

803
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,600
like that. 
So that's what I would do if I 

804
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,280
were in a, especially if I were 
in a place where I had limited 

805
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,800
space, I would say put the 
protein powder or some kind of 

806
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,560
high protein snack on the shelf 
for that implicit reason, rather

807
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:11,320
than, rather than have to depend
on a freezer, especially if 

808
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,480
you're in a city, because you're
on the grid, you're likely not 

809
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,560
going to have backup power. 
So when the power goes out, 

810
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,360
it's, you know, cook it all, 
fall at all, the salt at all, 

811
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,520
something like that. 
But that's why camping also does

812
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,240
help because even if you're just
having a bit of fun, you still 

813
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,720
learn about some of those 
things. 

814
00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:32,920
Definitely. 
I mean when we when we went away

815
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:37,240
recently, we took a portable 
fridge that's powered off solar 

816
00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:39,400
panels, which we took with also.
Oh cool. 

817
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,720
Yeah, that's nice. 
That's a good little thing to 

818
00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:43,000
play with. 
That's gear that you need 

819
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,720
practise with. 
I'm sure you got to figure out 

820
00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:46,960
where to set the panels to 
recharge it properly. 

821
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,000
Yeah, we had a tough time 
because we had too many trees in

822
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,320
the one location. 
Yeah, see, those are the things 

823
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,280
you want to learn. 
My friend Dave Jones, he's a 

824
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,920
host of PBN. 
He always says, and I think this

825
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,680
is essential prepping advice, 
You never want to have too many 

826
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,920
firsts, you know, in any 
operation. 

827
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,120
You never want it when it all 
counts. 

828
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,440
You never want to be doing 
everything for the first time. 

829
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,440
It's first time I'm using this 
knife, first time I'm using 

830
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,840
these solar panels, first time 
I'm using this gun, first time, 

831
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,640
you know what I mean? 
This tent, the whole thing. 

832
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,360
So to your point, that's what 
camping does. 

833
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,280
Eliminates a lot of those firsts
for you. 

834
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,600
You haven't mentioned this but 
self defence. 

835
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,360
I mean, not everybody can carry 
a gun or even a knife for that 

836
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,160
matter, but you need to be able 
to defend yourself. 

837
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,720
Yeah. 
I mean, unfortunately, like it 

838
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:35,960
really is one of those back to 
the attribute points kind of 

839
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,320
thing. 
You know, it, it really comes 

840
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,240
down to what you're going to put
your time and effort into 

841
00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:43,080
because self defence is a big 
question. 

842
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,560
You know, one of the cool things
that that, that are around 

843
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:50,000
everywhere now are MMA gyms. 
And I think, I think learning 

844
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,480
basic jujitsu and basic Muay 
Thai are probably the quickest 

845
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,200
ways to learning how to defend 
yourself, you know what I mean? 

846
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,200
But it you got to put a year in 
before you really know what 

847
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,680
you're doing, you know what I 
mean? 

848
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,160
You're going to have to spar 
people to know that what you 

849
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,160
know, what you think you know 
actually works, you know, and 

850
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,280
then you got to upkeep it. 
You know, I went to an MMA gym 

851
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,920
for like a year and then hung a 
heavy bag Outback. 

852
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,200
And you know, you can keep up 
with it. 

853
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,320
You can keep sharp, You can, you
know, one of the things that 

854
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,640
people don't, one of the things 
that people take for granted all

855
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:31,080
the time is we have weak 
typewriter fingers and fists. 

856
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,640
You know what I mean? 
Like you whack somebody in the 

857
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:39,200
head with your fist and break it
into societal collapse or even 

858
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,160
in a long term disaster. 
Now you got a broken hand on top

859
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,360
of all your other problems, you 
know, so hitting a punching bag,

860
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,880
doing those kinds of things, 
it'll strengthen your hands and 

861
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,840
toughen your body up. 
I think that's important too. 

862
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,400
But yeah, yeah, it's all about 
time. 

863
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,280
And you know what you want to 
prioritise. 

864
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:58,960
I think everybody should know 
how to fight though. 

865
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,520
Think if everybody knew how to 
fight, it would be a much cooler

866
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,480
place to exist in because people
wouldn't be so ready to fight, 

867
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:08,240
you know, all the time they. 
'D also be less crime. 

868
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,080
Yeah, I think so. 
I think so. 

869
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,480
I think people would say now 
that doesn't look like too easy 

870
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,960
a target, you know, it's always 
the easy targets. 

871
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:21,320
So, but it takes time. 
Everything takes time really to 

872
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,000
people who are new and who are 
just getting started, like don't

873
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,840
discount doing things today and 
then from there it's 1 foot in 

874
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,000
front of the other and do 
something every day. 

875
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,760
You know, something easy. 
Efficiency, James. 

876
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,400
Self sufficiency. 
Yeah, well, you know what it 

877
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,240
comes down to Germ, is self 
discipline really. 

878
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,000
You know, it's one thing to want
to be prepared. 

879
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,240
It's one thing to want to have 
these skills or these weapons or

880
00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:48,760
these. 
But at the end of the day, 

881
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,400
you're only going to get 
prepared if you have the 

882
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,040
discipline to get up every day 
and do the things that you need 

883
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,480
to do, you know, and that that's
outside of work, that's outside 

884
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,920
of family that. 
So you got to do all that. 

885
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:02,200
And then you got to have the 
discipline to say, I could play 

886
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,000
Call of Duty right now, but I'm 
gonna go hit the punching bag 

887
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,760
for 20 minutes and, you know, 
get my cardio up, toughen my 

888
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,840
knuckles up, that kind of thing.
That that's my life, man. 

889
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,480
That's what it takes. 
It takes that kind of 

890
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,400
discipline. 
Not that I don't do my fair 

891
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:21,920
share of video gaming, virtual 
reality, boxing, but you know, 

892
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,200
you got to have that discipline 
piece for sure. 

893
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,120
But there's also, there's also a
sense of manliness. 

894
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,160
You know, you were talking at 
the beginning of the 

895
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,880
conversation about this being 
connected to men. 

896
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,280
Oh, yeah. 
Women can also be prepped, 

897
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,040
obviously. 
Oh, for sure. 

898
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,640
Well, who? 
I mean, they bring a lot of 

899
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,560
things to the table, especially 
usually on the cooking side, you

900
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,560
know what I mean? 
And on the foraging side and on 

901
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:49,880
the healing side, they, they 
have an intuition built into 

902
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,000
them that we don't have, you 
know what I mean? 

903
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,600
And it goes a long way. 
And then of course, you know, 

904
00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:01,360
the whole, the whole motherhood 
thing is really handled by the 

905
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,800
women, you know what I mean? 
In terms of like the midwives 

906
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,600
and those kinds of things. 
Like that's the way people gave 

907
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,360
birth all the time and long 
before it was customary to wind 

908
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:13,920
up at a hospital, you know what 
I mean? 

909
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,600
To to give birth, it was 
midwives and neighbours and 

910
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,800
people in the group that came 
over and helped with the labour 

911
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,680
and all that kind of stuff. 
And wet nurses feeding other 

912
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,880
people's babies. 
Like, yeah, that's like I said 

913
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,760
there. 
It's just those old skills that 

914
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,800
re are resurfacing and people 
are going, yeah, maybe better 

915
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:38,320
than maybe it's weird, but maybe
better than corn corn syrup 

916
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,520
based baby formula, you know 
what I mean? 

917
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,200
I went through a phase a couple 
years ago, James, when I was 

918
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:52,880
trying to carry as much stuff on
me on a daily basis, but with 

919
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,920
but without it's showing. 
Yeah, you had one of those, one 

920
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,040
of those jackets with like 50 
pockets. 

921
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,920
Did you ever see those things? 
I forget what they were called. 

922
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,960
There was a jacket going around 
with all those pockets. 

923
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:06,320
You look ridiculous in it 
though. 

924
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,840
Definitely, definitely. 
There was a time where I used to

925
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,440
carry a full size Flint and 
steel on my key chain. 

926
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,360
My brother in law used to laugh 
at me about it and looking back 

927
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,320
now, I laugh at me about it. 
But sometimes when you in the 

928
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,080
early days of prepping germ, you
get scared, you get petrified 

929
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,240
because there's a certain amount
of information that you're 

930
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:31,000
taking in on a daily basis when 
you're prepping too, which is 

931
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,680
what am I prepping for? 
Oh, bio warfare. 

932
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,240
Well, what's that look like? 
How bad can that go? 

933
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,200
An economic collapse? 
OK, what's that look like? 

934
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,840
How bad can that be? 
So some of it does come from a 

935
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,520
place of fear. 
I mean, there's always some of 

936
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,560
it that comes from a place of 
fear, you know? 

937
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,200
And sometimes that's great 
motivation too, but it makes you

938
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,880
do silly. 
Stuff backfires it, but it also 

939
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:56,120
backfires sometimes like I, I've
been, you know, at the airport, 

940
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,360
we have forgotten that I've got 
like some sharp objects or knife

941
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,000
or whatever only and then they, 
you know, you can't go through 

942
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,160
the. 
Escape that. 

943
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,320
Oh yeah, that's the worst. 
Well, I bought AI bought a 

944
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:12,240
bucket of red wheat, hard red 
wheat when I was really nervous.

945
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,640
Early days of prepping 5 gallon 
bucket full of hard red wheat. 

946
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,920
Now remember, I'm chef trained 
college, great restaurants in 

947
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,120
Philadelphia. 
I worked in them. 

948
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,960
Maybe the one ingredient in the 
world I didn't know what to do 

949
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,680
anything with was hard red 
wheat. 

950
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,040
I didn't have a grinder and I 
bought a whole bucket of it just

951
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,760
because I read enough prepping 
blogs at the time and I was 

952
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:37,880
scared enough that I said, oh, I
guess I need to buy that against

953
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,000
all rationale, you know, So 
yeah, you could get trapped. 

954
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,680
You could definitely make some 
terrible decisions like carrying

955
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:49,360
40 knives on your person. 
I was actually just chatting 

956
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,000
this morning to the local gun 
store. 

957
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:55,840
You've obviously got a hunting 
rifle. 

958
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,960
Yeah, 30 out six. 
Yep. 

959
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,040
OK. 
I was about to ask you. 

960
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,280
OK, All right. 
So I'm guessing that's where 

961
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,120
this is going to go. 
So I've got a three O 8. 

962
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:07,240
Nice. 
But there's but there's a big 

963
00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:09,440
rivalry between 30 O six and 
three O 8. 

964
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,720
Yeah, I mean, I just bought it 
because it was huge and I wanted

965
00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:14,640
to. 
I wanted to. 

966
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,760
When I bought it, I bought it as
a new hunter and I said let me 

967
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,720
get a nice big round so that 
when I hit a deer with it, it's 

968
00:52:20,720 --> 00:52:23,440
dead. 
You know, I don't from shock or 

969
00:52:23,720 --> 00:52:27,040
I have no clue. 
It's not very long, I don't 

970
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,360
know. 
Oh no, mine, mine's got a 

971
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,680
slightly shorter barrel so I can
put a silence on. 

972
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,080
Oh OK, yeah mine is not a 
tactical looking weapon. 

973
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,760
It is a scoped hunting rifle for
sure, you know. 

974
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,040
No, mine too. 
OK. 

975
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:40,800
So CZ. 
I got you. 

976
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,080
Mine is a savage, Pretty low 
budget, 30 out six. 

977
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,840
I bought it probably 10 years 
ago now, you know, but it does 

978
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,080
it. 
It gets the job done, I mean. 

979
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,680
Some. 
Yeah, my brother in law got 

980
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:56,720
angry. 
He said no, you must get a 

981
00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:59,720
thirty O 6. 
No, I don't really have much of 

982
00:52:59,720 --> 00:53:01,760
that in me. 
I know guys who fight over their

983
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,280
AR fifteens versus their AK-40 
Sevens and that kind of stuff. 

984
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,840
But I'm pretty simplistic with 
guns. 

985
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,840
Sure, you know what I mean? 
I've shot both and I must tell 

986
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,840
you I prefer the AK47. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

987
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,640
It's just, it's just more 
gangster. 

988
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,360
Yeah, I mean, aesthetically it 
is villain. 

989
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,960
It's a villainous weapon for 
sure, but I don't know, I feel 

990
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,920
like an AR15, you barely even 
feel it. 

991
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,920
It's just, it's a cool weapon 
because it's just, it's like 

992
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,400
shooting a 22 rifle almost, you 
know? 

993
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:35,560
An AR15 is a great gun, however 
James the fact that they make 

994
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,320
them now in pink. 
You can't get a pink 

995
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,120
Kalashnikov. 
I'm sure you can. 

996
00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:47,760
I mean, so, I mean, there's a 
name that's going around now for

997
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,800
the pink ARS. 
What do they call it? 

998
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:54,280
They call it a Barbie doll gun. 
Oh, the Barbie AR OK. 

999
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,520
And you can take it apart, you 
see, like a Barbie doll. 

1000
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,280
Then you can put it. 
You can put different parts on 

1001
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,200
it well. 
There's a lot of prima donnas in

1002
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,280
the gun community, I can tell 
you that much, so it's probably 

1003
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:08,400
a pretty apartment name. 
OK James, this coming for a 

1004
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,800
landing, how can I follow your 
work? 

1005
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,760
I mean, the best thing to do, 
you could just plug in Prepper 

1006
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:20,520
Broadcasting Network into any 
search engine on your phone, any

1007
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,400
podcasts provider, any social 
network. 

1008
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,840
Well, I think we're pretty much 
everywhere now, You know what I 

1009
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,680
mean? 
You, you'd look up the Prepper 

1010
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,680
Broadcasting Network. 
You'll find podcasts, video 

1011
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,720
podcasts, that kind of stuff. 
Our our landing site is 

1012
00:54:35,720 --> 00:54:40,920
prepperbroadcasting.com. 
Oh, it's as easy as that. 

1013
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,160
That's it. 
I thought you were going to. 

1014
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,480
All right. 
Well, on that note, James 

1015
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,920
Walton, thank you for joining me
in the trenches. 

1016
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,000
Always a pleasure, man. 
Talk to you soon.