1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:05,120 Well, there we are. I think we should be live, which 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,280 is good. Welcome everybody. 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:14,160 So a particular welcome to Art. Well, our guest and Oh well, 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:20,360 thank you for being patient and and waiting to join and join us 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,480 for extra. It's really great to have you 6 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,640 here and I know we're going to have a very interesting 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,720 discussion. You've had a bit of a chance to 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,040 meet our other presenters, so a bit of chat going on with Alex 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,120 and Mark as well. So that was good. 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,800 Now what do I want to say? I think I'll just bring on the 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,480 subject to Richard D Hall again, which I ended the news on. 12 00:00:45,480 --> 00:00:48,560 But I do think this is, this is absolutely critical. 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,280 I'm very interested or I will be interested to know whether the 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:57,440 BBC was actually funding, effectively putting in funding 15 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,840 to make this court case happen. I don't know whether they were 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,400 or not, but I'm a suspicious person and I wonder whether 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,960 that's the case. But yeah, I do believe that this 18 00:01:08,960 --> 00:01:14,240 will be a precedence case and if it has a bad result for Richard 19 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,960 D Hall, we can all expect a lot of pressure. 20 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,320 Do you do you agree with that, Alex? 21 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,880 I do, because this is quite an outrageous application. 22 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,920 It's an application for summary judgement this afternoon by the 23 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:35,440 claimants and they are saying that Richard de Hall's analysis 24 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,560 and opinions in broadcasting were tantamount to harassment. 25 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,000 But they're not content and we know that What we feel that they 26 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,920 have been put up to it by the BBC and the Mariana Spring 27 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,800 contingent, as we've reported in the past. 28 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,560 But however, be that as it may, even if it's genuinely 29 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,080 aggrieved, people who have were were not put up to it by anyone 30 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,840 else, it takes quite some chutzpah to apply to a court 31 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,640 that Mister D Mr. Richard D Hall must not be allowed in any 32 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,360 future trial to bring his evidence to bear because he's 33 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,080 already upset them. OK, we can understand that from 34 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,000 their perspective, that is tantamount to harassment. 35 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,880 No way, Jose. But they go on to say that there 36 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:23,120 is no merit in his research and because there would be very 37 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:29,840 likely no court judgement in his future in his favour in future 38 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,360 if his material were brought into a public hearing. 39 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:39,080 Therefore he must not be allowed to bring it into the current 40 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,480 proceedings against him. Because apparently a public 41 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,960 inquiry has already done a stitch up and said that that 42 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:51,360 Mister Hall's version is wrong. Therefore this evidence must 43 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:52,880 never see the light of day in a court. 44 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,200 So it's it's takes inspiration from several sectors. 45 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,520 It has a a whiff of the social services wicked mantra, risk of 46 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:06,640 future emotional abuse about it. It has overtones of this is not 47 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:09,800 good for Das Falk. It's not in the greater good or 48 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,760 public interest. And it also has overtones of the 49 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,640 new, which I think Sir Keir Starmer is responsible for the 50 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:21,600 lower threshold for the Attorney General for England and Wales 51 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,280 taking over private prosecutions. 52 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,160 They are still allowed in England, Wales and Northern 53 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,960 Ireland, and they're the Attorney general. 54 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,440 Since Starmer's time, 2009, the last time we had a Labour 55 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,200 government has lowered the threshold for what's called the 56 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,160 nolle prosequi. You know, the attorney general 57 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:43,440 throwing the case out to the threshold of the Attorney 58 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,880 General's office doesn't think that a court would convict. 59 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,800 It used to be that there's no merit at all. 60 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,120 Now it's we don't think that the court would would convict. 61 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,600 And of course everyone knows that the judge is direct juries 62 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,720 these days. So it's the worst of several 63 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,600 worlds of the British legal scene all being wrapped up into 64 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,960 do not allow this man to speak. He's already been decided as a 65 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,120 person of no value. Yeah. 66 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,080 All right. Thank you for that, Alex. 67 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:12,480 Well, we will cover more on it. Let's turn to Artwell and the 68 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,120 floor is yours, really. Just introduce yourself a little 69 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,959 bit for the UK column. Viewers and listeners art well 70 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:24,440 and tell us about what you're seeing with these low traffic 71 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,720 neighbourhoods. You're describing them as 72 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:31,720 roadblocks in Oxford, but tell us about yourself and what 73 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:36,360 you've been up to. OK, well, I've been auk column 74 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,000 listener for quite a while and I've attended a few of the 75 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,720 conferences in the past and with the help of the UK column 76 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,520 because it really is the only broadcast out of England that 77 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,240 addresses what I call local issues. 78 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,520 There's a lot from the United States as you all know. 79 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:58,560 I think it's important that is it is here that that we support 80 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,520 it and that it's because it's the only one looking at the 81 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,720 minutiae of local government, local issues here in England. 82 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:11,280 And on that topic right now in Oxford, Oxford City Council and 83 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:16,120 Oxford County Council is controlled by the Labour, Lib 84 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,480 Dems and Greens. And we have seen an absolute 85 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:26,600 avalanche of green policies that take the form of what I call 86 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,360 East Oxford's roadblock policies, what they have done. 87 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,440 They've cut off all the roads leading off to the main 88 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,880 thoroughfare, so you have to just stay on the main 89 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:42,920 thoroughfare UK column. It has caused congestion, chaos, 90 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:50,440 confusion, delays, ambulances and firemen and so forth. 91 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,160 It's absolutely awful. But despite this, the County 92 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,840 Council who run this, they're still going full blazing, 93 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,480 ignoring totally what the local people think. 94 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,840 And I want to just say this now that last week I was sent 95 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:09,800 something from the Daily Telegraph which was saying that 96 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:11,960 and this is, I find this quite frightening. 97 00:06:12,280 --> 00:06:16,120 It was saying that apparently the Daily Caliph says that 100 98 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:22,240 councils have made anti democratic pledges to to A to 99 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,320 beat the government's own net 0 targets. 100 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:31,400 And this organization is called the UK 100 which is bankrolled 101 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:36,120 according to the paper by green billionaires without consulting 102 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,640 voters. And it goes on to say that if 103 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,520 you are wondering why so many local councils seem hell bent on 104 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:48,080 damaging anti motorist policies, this may explain it. 105 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,720 And I feel in Oxford this is exactly what we've got. 106 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,880 The article then goes on to say if you want to find out if your 107 00:06:54,880 --> 00:07:01,160 council has these consultants who come from these UK 100, put 108 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,720 your e-mail in. So I put my I'm sorry, put my 109 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,680 your post code in. So I did. 110 00:07:05,840 --> 00:07:08,280 And of course, without any surprise to any of you 111 00:07:08,280 --> 00:07:14,800 gentlemen, Oxford City Council has signed up to this UK 100 112 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,120 bankrolled by green billionaires and it explains why we can't 113 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,080 seem to get any traction. I really want to say, and I 114 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:28,520 really want to encourage with all my heart UK column viewers, 115 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,360 it's local elections in about 3 months time. 116 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:37,520 Please consider standing as an independent because it's the 117 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,920 only direct way that you have of trying to make an impact. 118 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,640 And here in Oxford, let me just give you a quick example. 119 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,360 Here in Oxford we are controlled by Liberal Democrats, Green and 120 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,560 Labour, which means if you are opposed to the East Oxford 121 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:57,200 roadblock policy, come the local elections, you have nobody to 122 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,640 vote for. I mean, this is just 123 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:06,120 unacceptable that we have almost slipping into a tyranny. 124 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,480 UK column viewers in Oxford where you literally feel you 125 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:15,400 have no one else to vote for if you are out of step, you oppose 126 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,640 the East Oxford roadblock policies. 127 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,040 What do you guys gentlemen say to that? 128 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:27,400 Well, the first thing I say to you well is that the the 129 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,840 parties, there is no difference between them. 130 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,919 The colours are different, but there's no difference in the 131 00:08:32,919 --> 00:08:35,840 policies. They are all working to Agenda 132 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,400 20-30. This is very clear now and I 133 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:44,640 think in a way it's it's enabled people to see through what 134 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,560 they're doing because they all use the same language. 135 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:50,400 They've got the same policies. They've got the same objectives 136 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,400 and if you challenge them you get the same response which is 137 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,520 that you're treated like a piece of dirt. 138 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:01,160 And I I I wanted to say to you that the Oxford Mail article 139 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,880 that I I just put up the picture of you and the headline Former 140 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:12,040 MP wannabe is a victim of Oxford Council's IT mix up so. 141 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,160 They could have just written pleb, couldn't they? 142 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,080 To express their feelings. Yes, but well, they could, Alex. 143 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:22,560 But Artwell stood as a parliamentary candidate and that 144 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:26,120 requires respect. I've I've done it myself. 145 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:32,440 It was a huge amount of work to go out and leaflet, to speak to 146 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,400 people, to take the abuse from some individuals, but a huge 147 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,200 amount of work in order to try and participate in the 148 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,480 democratic system. And when Artwell does it in 149 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:49,600 Oxford, his local paper, Let's talk about the journalist Albert 150 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,480 Tate. I'm not sure what Albert has 151 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,320 ever done in his life, but he calls Artwell a He's a. 152 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,280 Journalist a wannabe. Absolutely. 153 00:09:58,680 --> 00:10:02,760 But what? What an insult that is, Artwell. 154 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,320 Just explain what why that article was written, what you 155 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,720 have been trying to do, and what you discovered was happening to 156 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,760 your communications with the local council. 157 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:19,560 OK, as part of EU KS columns influence on me, I've been 158 00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:23,640 speaking at 4 council meetings, which I hope everybody knows 159 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,920 happens 4 * a year. It's our only opportunity to 160 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,840 hold our elected councillors and executive officers to account 161 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,280 and I always try to make use of it anyway. 162 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,400 They seem as a little bit of a as a nuisance, shall I say. 163 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:44,320 And I discovered that I would put my address in turn up to 164 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,480 speak and they would say, oh Mr. Artwell, we didn't receive your 165 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:51,160 address, you can't speak now. This happened at 3 occasions. 166 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,200 And I and the third occasion I really got rather angry, 167 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,640 demanded an an investigation. And it turned out that Oxford 168 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,200 City Council when I sent my address in, they were sending it 169 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,560 to an unmanned BOP somewhere in cyberspace so that they can then 170 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:11,040 claim with plausible deniability not to have received my address 171 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,800 and therefore disenfranchising me with credibility, which 172 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,920 they've done for nine months as a result of my complaints. 173 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,200 I they apologise and and and so forth. 174 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,720 And then I took it to the paper and asked the paper to publish. 175 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,800 After a lot of persuasion, they finally persuaded to to publish 176 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,400 the piece which which Mr. Gerrish has quite kindly put up 177 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,440 there, in which the reporter described me as a wannabe. 178 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,920 But that is the background to the story, the report on the 179 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,880 fact that they disenfranchised me. 180 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,880 For nine months I couldn't speak. 181 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,680 And it's only because, and and only because of my persistence 182 00:11:48,680 --> 00:11:52,040 that I've managed to get it overthrown and and and highlight 183 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,760 the awful practices that are going on within the local 184 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,600 council. Well, would it be fair to say 185 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,720 that because you've been challenging the council over 186 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:06,000 quite a few years that that they decided to put you in the 187 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,160 naughty box and simply try and ignore your communications 188 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,360 because you've you've been a you've been a big letter writer, 189 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,960 haven't you? For the for the local press. 190 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:20,760 I gentlemen, I have 6 ring ring binders full of my published 191 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,080 letters in the local paper. Some of them are really 192 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,720 attacking Labour and what they have done in Oxford and let's 193 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:33,920 just say that they don't like it, they don't like it, 1 little 194 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:37,720 bit, but I really have. You come up with a sorry, you 195 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,080 don't go ahead and finish your thought art Will. 196 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,120 I really want to encourage listeners like because I'm 197 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,480 really passionate about this. I want to encourage people to 198 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,240 really think about standing in local election, because I only 199 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,080 think now that that's our only redemption, so our only remedy 200 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,680 to the tyranny. And I don't use that word 201 00:12:56,680 --> 00:12:58,720 lightly. I really believe we are 202 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,960 descending into a political tyranny when our constitutional 203 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:08,000 monarchy is being subverted, as the A Telegraph wrote last week 204 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,800 by green billionaires who have their own agendas beyond what 205 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,920 even Parliament is pushing through. 206 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,600 And that that message really needs to resonate and get out 207 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,520 there. Just wondering if Mark has come 208 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,040 across cases like this in the US. 209 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,640 Yes, maybe not quite as egregious. 210 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:35,520 Maybe the naughty boxers are not as frequent, but absolutely, 211 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:40,920 there is this autopilot mentality among a local 212 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,840 Councilman. Even here in little old Donna, 213 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,640 TX, where the potholes keep getting bigger, you can't get a 214 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,360 return e-mail from the mayor. The most basic, fundamental 215 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,400 things are not taken care of. Meanwhile, the city bought this 216 00:13:54,400 --> 00:14:00,480 expensive fleet of police cars, code enforcement vehicles, but 217 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,000 animal control vehicles, even though there's no animal control 218 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:09,240 and just a massive amount of spending on vehicles, police 219 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,040 cars, fire fire department and all these other vehicles, huge 220 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,600 utility vehicles. Meanwhile the roads underneath 221 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,600 them, the local streets are crumbling and you can't get a 222 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,880 word in edgewise. And when the City Council meets, 223 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,120 it's on Tuesdays at 5:30 when everyone still working. 224 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,640 This is just one example of of thousands. 225 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,880 But then we found out a few years ago that even small towns 226 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,120 were working with the Wilson Institute. 227 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,520 The Woodrow Wilson Institute, a globalist institution which has 228 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,560 been working to kind of globalize the small towns in 229 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,720 Texas and and around the country. 230 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:49,760 And the Wilson Institute, which used to have a chairman, Jane 231 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,000 Harman, a former congresswoman from California who was 232 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,240 instrumental in creating the post 911 Patriot Act. 233 00:14:56,880 --> 00:15:00,200 She she LED that Wilson Institute for a long time. 234 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,080 And then that organization has brought speakers to South Texas, 235 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,160 including a big city. McAllen and all the local mayors 236 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,400 would show up for the for their little dose of globalism. 237 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,760 This was just a few years back, maybe 2019. 238 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,440 Yeah, thanks for that Mark. Sorry, just to come back to 239 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,040 Artwell. Several people are reacting to 240 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,480 you already in the chat box and saying we need more people like 241 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:32,400 this because you are active, you are, you've got a good sense of 242 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,040 humour, You're smiling as you tell the story of getting out 243 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,920 there and and challenging the council. 244 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,040 But I understand that there are other people now standing up in 245 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,800 in the Oxford area. Can you tell us a bit about what 246 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:50,600 what they're doing? Yes, I am delighted to say that 247 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:55,880 we have something called Oxford Organization of of Oxford 248 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,000 organisations of independence run by a lady called Doctor 249 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,000 Gwinnett. And she what she is doing is 250 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,720 that she's asking people to stand in all the wards in Oxford 251 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,880 and she's asking them to to stand on on their own principles 252 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,720 so that they can make their own decisions. 253 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:18,600 But it will be an alternative place for the local people to 254 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,920 vote, especially people who are opposed to the Oxford's 255 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,880 roadblock policies and anti car policies and so forth. 256 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,840 So I mean, I'm really pleased I've gone along, I've joined, 257 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,320 I've let them know that I want to join it and so forth, because 258 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,840 I think it's a good thing. We need to be able to unite our 259 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:43,280 our powers together so we act as a bit more of a as a group 260 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,360 because it's really lonely being on your own sometimes. 261 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,920 So this has come forward at a wonderful time and it's very 262 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,320 much needed and I'm hoping that the people of Oxford will really 263 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,480 take this to heart and vote for their independence, especially 264 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,360 people who are looking to oppose. 265 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:05,800 What I see is our loss of our traditional freedoms and we are 266 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,160 losing them in Oxford. I could go into detail, they 267 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,480 want to bring in 15 minute cities. 268 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,440 I mean these things are really getting on advanced. 269 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,920 They want to stop you from going from one part of Oxford to 270 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:20,960 another in a private car. Honestly, it feels as if UK 271 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,960 column listeners, we're going back to feudalism where I'm 272 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,839 going to need a little bit of paper from the local Manor, the 273 00:17:26,839 --> 00:17:30,440 local to go from one part of Oxford to the other. 274 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,960 That is where they want us to go and on top of that they want you 275 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,720 to travel by horse and cart. I'm not joking when I say that 276 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,280 they literally want you back in the horse and cart, because 277 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,840 although they like electric at the moment, I just think it's 278 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,320 only a matter of time before they turn their backs even on 279 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:49,360 their so-called electric vehicles. 280 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,760 I think you're. Right, there are, yeah. 281 00:17:54,120 --> 00:17:55,760 Shall I throw in some historical memory? 282 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,720 You might be surprised at the angle this comes from? 283 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,400 But before I emigrated I was a member of the Orange Lodge, 284 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,880 which covers Oxford, and I came to know there. 285 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,800 And it's the point I'm making here is that if you don't defend 286 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,560 those who most people live down on, you won't get freedom of 287 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,880 speech and and assembly for anyone else. 288 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,400 I was told by the older gentleman there that the last 289 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,040 time that lodge, which had Oxford in its name, had marched 290 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,600 through Oxford because of course they wanted to pay their 291 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,960 respects at the Martyrs Memorial in Oxford City was 40 years ago, 292 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,200 this year, 1984. There was a bit of a kerfuffle 293 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,000 that year, bit like the German antifa stuff going on now. 294 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,440 And somebody high up in Oxford police then told the lodge, 295 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,000 that's the last time you ever March in this city. 296 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,520 We will see to it. Don't ask who we was. 297 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,160 It was the gentleman who make up their minds on these things. 298 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,520 And after that anything that was that was the same year the 299 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,480 Public Order Act. What nearly the same year the 300 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,560 Public Order Act was bought in 181986. 301 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,320 But it was in the mid 80s when this legislation started wafting 302 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,920 through. So the the decision was already 303 00:18:59,920 --> 00:19:02,760 being made in the cities that regard themselves as a cut above 304 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,880 the rest and more progressive 40 years ago and under the brand of 305 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:11,240 Thatcherism and liberal Toryism, that if you are undesirable in 306 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,960 your expressions, in your opinions, in your associations, 307 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:17,320 we don't want the likes of you. And you know where this ends up 308 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,560 is people losing their in the Soviet Union, their Hopiska as 309 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,400 they were called, their their residence permit to live in 310 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,720 Leningrad or Moscow. A lot of people who were 311 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,160 Christians, dissidents of some kind were told at the City 312 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,640 Council office when they went to renew their pass to live in 313 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,880 their St. no, no, no, you you have in the last five years or 314 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,680 whatever the period was, you have expressed yourselves or 315 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,080 associated with people in ways that this Soviet city finds 316 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,200 undesirable. So off you go, back to the 317 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,000 boondocks. Yeah. 318 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:50,920 And and if I can add into that one, Alex, this is a little 319 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,160 story I I'm sure the audience, it's true. 320 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,160 But back in the days of Tony Blair as Prime Minister, he came 321 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:03,880 down to Plymouth to to meet up with the great and the good, 322 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:09,240 mainly centred around Plymouth City Council and 1:00 in the 323 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,760 afternoon there was a meeting and an individual that I had 324 00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:18,480 pretty good relationships with. Was in that meeting and I think 325 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:23,360 it was about 4:45, I got a call from this individual to say, 326 00:20:23,360 --> 00:20:26,640 Brian, I just got to tell you what I've heard is incredible. 327 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,440 And what this person said to me is that Tony Blair had been in 328 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,320 this meeting where the then chief executive of Plymouth City 329 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,680 Council was talking about how the city will be divided up into 330 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,320 areas. But the person said to me the 331 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,520 thing was, the language they were using in talking about 332 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:49,160 zones and sectors, it sounded almost military. 333 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:54,240 And then they said, to my astonishment, they were talking 334 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,320 about which class of people would be allowed to live in 335 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:02,280 which area of the city. And there was a bit of 336 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,880 discussion. And then the chief executive 337 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,080 said to Tony Blair, well, the only thing is we're getting 338 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:14,160 quite a lot of pushback from people they they are challenging 339 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,880 us. And Tony Blair looked at the 340 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:22,120 then chief executive and said, you have been given special 341 00:21:22,120 --> 00:21:26,520 powers and you should use them. And what Tony Blair was 342 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,200 referring to was to the. I think they'd come in a little 343 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:35,000 while before, but these were, as was the ACT to do with powers to 344 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,680 local authorities. I can't think of the exact name 345 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:38,800 of it. I think it was called the 346 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,240 Localism Act, wasn't it? Which in a nutshell told it 347 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,840 reversed English law and U.S. law on this point that it was. 348 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,360 Although although a council's a public body and hence can do 349 00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:51,520 nothing except what it's given specific entitlement to do by 350 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,320 the law, that was reversed to put into law the sentence that a 351 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,000 local council can do anything that a natural person can do. 352 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,120 Which makes it a mockery of the idea of public law. 353 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,880 Yeah. So, so the person who was 354 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:10,800 relaying this to me was, was actually disturbed by what they 355 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,760 had heard in the meeting. They found it very spooky and 356 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:18,400 very frightening that that Tony Blair and others were talking 357 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,080 about this draconian control within a city. 358 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,600 Mark you you've got something here I think. 359 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,160 Well. Thinking about the mentality of 360 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,520 Oxford and Tony Blair and all the powers that be with regards 361 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,560 to the primer on AI that the World Economic Forum discussed 362 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,160 at an annual at its annual Dabos confab January 17th that I 363 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,000 mentioned in the regular news. So this is the mentality 364 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,920 basically making cities into these military garrisons, at 365 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,040 least in the term in terms of their structure, with sectors 366 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,920 and all that, and having free speech be non existent. 367 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,080 And so this is where AI would come in with surveillance to 368 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,080 surveil or to surveil whom on behalf of whom becomes the 369 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,280 question. And you're talking about a class 370 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,720 system, a rigid class system, some might even call it a caste 371 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,960 system. And you're talking about getting 372 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,080 permission to go from one place to another and possibly going 373 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,200 back to horse and buggy in some instances and things like that. 374 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,160 This is the milieu or this is the context in which they're 375 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,720 talking about. Well, we need AI to be 376 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,240 inclusive. This was another comment at the 377 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,840 World Economic Forum primer. And AI inclusive, everything 378 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,080 we're hearing is the exact opposite. 379 00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:43,320 This is all about exclusion except all for the cream of the 380 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,160 crop of the elite. That's, that's the, that's the 381 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,240 sum and substance of what we're hearing from our guests and from 382 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,200 other UK column investigations. Yeah. 383 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,240 I'm fascinated that several people in the chat well chat box 384 00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:02,600 well, I'm not surprised. They're being very complimentary 385 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,080 about what you've already said to us art well and then some. 386 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,840 Somebody's just posted this should have been on the main UK 387 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:14,440 column news and somebody else said, yes, this man should be 388 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,000 talking to UK column news. Well, we'll let the audience 389 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,360 into a little secret that we are indeed planning to do this, but 390 00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:26,240 to enable Artwell to sort of come in gently in a relaxed 391 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,080 environment with the UK column team, we suggested that he 392 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:34,360 joined Extra Time today. So, Oh well, I'll just give you 393 00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:38,600 that little bit of feedback that I can see on screen here that a 394 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,040 lot of people paying attention to you. 395 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,120 Thank you. You can't tell you how 396 00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:47,880 marvellous it is to have such wonderful people saying great 397 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,920 things about one. I want to say something because 398 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,800 something happened over the weekend that I'm rather 399 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,200 disturbed about. I am disturbed that a jury of 400 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:01,200 nine men and three women found a young man guilty of downloading 401 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,080 templates which essentially were about patriotic stickers up in 402 00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:09,680 in Leeds Crown Court. That's that's Sam. 403 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,840 Molly. Yes, worse than that, they said 404 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,400 that telling, even though what he said was accurate and 405 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,280 truthful. I can't believe, men and women, 406 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:25,440 that truth is no longer a defence in the English judicial 407 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,000 system. Have I? 408 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,800 I'm scattered by it. I mean, we've seen it for a 409 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,600 while. It started in Scotland and the 410 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,240 pressure started coming through the Carnegie Foundation and 411 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,800 others. And the idea there was that the 412 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,480 court had a very important duty here in the interests of global 413 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,800 citizenship, to make the findings of fact on what was in 414 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,280 the alleged offenders mind. So Mens Rea would no longer have 415 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,640 to be proved on an evidentiary and oppositional adversarial 416 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,240 basis, which is the cornerstone of English law in the US. 417 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,000 Wherever you look, no, from now on the court, in no uncertain 418 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,920 terms, starting in Scots law but spreading, would say you're 419 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,680 clearly guilty because and here's as you say, here's the 420 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,040 the, the, the, shall we say the the litmus test of it. 421 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,320 The only question here is, was he a naughty boy in his mind? 422 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:16,600 Because the jury found, as you said, that the stuff was lawful. 423 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,600 Oswald Mosley's books are not unlawful. 424 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,640 The stickers do not express unlawful or inciting sentiments. 425 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,320 And yet, the judge said, you're going to have to find him guilty 426 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,960 because he's a bad boy, and like a bunch of English sheep, they 427 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:33,160 rolled over and did so. Mark, sorry. 428 00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:38,200 Well, a brief footnote. The Carnegie Endowment for 429 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,440 International Peace was investigated by the Greece 430 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,560 Committee of the US Congress in the 1950s. 431 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,000 Nineteen 53, I believe, as the Korean War was ending and the 432 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,400 Carnegie Endowment for International Peace was accused 433 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,360 with plenty of evidence, of exacerbating and setting the 434 00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:57,640 stage for war. And that became very clear in 435 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,400 the public record. So you know the whole Carnegie 436 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,080 thing and Andrew Carnegie, the steel magnate would then donate 437 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,040 these libraries all over the United States to soften the 438 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,960 blow. See, we're not really so bad, 439 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,040 just like John D Rockefeller handing senior the oil magnate 440 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,000 handing out Dimes to children who was a super billionaire even 441 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:23,560 then in 1913 dollars. So these charitable robber 442 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,280 barons are always trying to Polish their image after all 443 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,120 their perfidy. And I can't promise it. 444 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,480 I understand that Charles Mallet may on Wednesday be able to 445 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,360 feature the Sam Melia case, he said. 446 00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:37,760 He's looking into it for me. I can't, of course promise on 447 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,000 his behalf what will fit into the news because we research 448 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,160 things went well if we do them. But I think it certainly merits 449 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,080 a lot of discussion. Yeah, brilliant. 450 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,320 Oh well. Yeah, I was just going to say 451 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:53,440 that I use old fashioned terminology like constitutional 452 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,360 monarchy. We live under a constitutional 453 00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:59,120 monarchy. I consider myself His Majesty's 454 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:03,360 African heritage subject. I I want to say to people that 455 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:08,040 we've got to remember these old wonderful terms because the 456 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,400 youngsters don't know them and I think that the authorities are 457 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,240 using are driving people away from the terms. 458 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:20,840 And that is why we got Mr. Hall facing terrible time in a court 459 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,960 case. We've got the what happened up 460 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,160 in Leeds to these young people here now, which just goes 461 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,200 against the grain. The I like what I like to call 462 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,680 Anglo Saxons people's long struggle to give us accountable 463 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:39,480 local governance, A judicial system that has that gloss that 464 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,840 used same I used to do law, the gloss of fairness of equity 465 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,000 about it. All those have been washed away 466 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,080 and they've been washed away because in my view, we we've 467 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,960 gone away from the old terms. We need to go back to them 468 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,600 because we're losing our OK, You agree? 469 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,040 That drive, Yeah, that that drive by the Carnegie Foundation 470 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,960 was actually called Global citizenship, deliberately 471 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,040 supplanting the idea of being a subject or AUS citizen in the 472 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,080 case of the US and replacing it with something of, you know, 473 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,480 allegiance to, as we saw with the EU parliamentary resolution, 474 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,880 the idea that there's no truth, there's no history, and it's all 475 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,440 supranational and one group is at each other's throats. 476 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,960 You know, they would be quite surprised to see in this news 477 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,760 extra a black man standing up for Sam Melia. 478 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,800 But it doesn't surprise us, of course, because we know our 479 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:35,160 audience. Yeah, well, so I just just, as 480 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:40,040 we have always said, you know, in the camps it isn't going to 481 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,000 matter what colour somebody is or what their religion is. 482 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,520 If you're in the camps, you're going to be looking for somebody 483 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,200 who's capable of being your friend and looking after you. 484 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,880 So I am actually encouraged by the way that we're actually 485 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,400 seeing divisions fall away because people are now starting 486 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:02,000 to sense that something very nasty is installing itself in 487 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,640 the country. So I I think we've already got 488 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,200 an opportunity to bring people together. 489 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,520 The other thing I just want to say, and I am clock watching 490 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:16,760 now, is that in local politics the thing which people forget is 491 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,000 that the local councillors and even the local authority 492 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,800 officers invariably live locally. 493 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,840 And therefore when you start to put them under pressure, they 494 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,280 feel uncomfortable pretty quickly. 495 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,360 Because of course if you accuse them of of things which are 496 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,800 correct, what you're saying are true, That starts to spread 497 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,600 amongst their local friends and contacts in their local 498 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,240 community and boy, they get nervous pretty quickly. 499 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:54,520 So if you change local authority figures, they of course then are 500 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,840 capable of changing the power base in the in the in the 501 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:03,960 political party's national, sorry, in the national political 502 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,200 party's local power base, you deal with the councillors. 503 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,720 You're already starting to deal with the national political 504 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,880 parties. That's how I see it. 505 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,840 May we close with a very brief clip from an American town hall 506 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,920 meeting up in Burlington, Vt. It gives away rather more than 507 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:26,120 the young lady intended. I think we got, we got that 508 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,360 ready to roll. I hope Stephanie, if you can 509 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,520 manage that. And how appalled I am that 510 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,160 people are bringing up the Holocaust. 511 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,000 Do not use other genocides to describe this one. 512 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:46,560 I have been. Oops. 513 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,360 Interesting. We need to explain it in case 514 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,520 people haven't got it, but it's. It's to do with a resolution 515 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:03,640 being taken at local level on the disproportion that's as many 516 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,520 people find it, use of violence against the people of Gaza, 517 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,240 whether or not Israel has a right of self defence, which is 518 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,320 now something the ICJ didn't want to rule on expressly. 519 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,600 But she said by her incautious word wording that she was 520 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,040 accepting that this was a genocide going on in the Gaza 521 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,640 Strip. And then she covered her mouth 522 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,880 as she realized what she'd done. Yeah, OK. 523 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:26,600 If I. May. 524 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,440 Go on quickly. Yeah, that would be Foreign 525 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,720 Affairs article that I referenced early in the main 526 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:38,360 show about a next global war that just came out in that CFR 527 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,040 journal. It used that same language that 528 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,320 this is a war in the Middle East. 529 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,600 Again, trying to say that there may be a next global war. 530 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,480 Of course there'll be rumors of wars to propagandize us. 531 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,480 That's the ongoing war. Our own nations are working 532 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,240 against us, So that's far worse than wars between nations, 533 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,920 because that's theoretical. Our own nations oppressing us is 534 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,280 is real and every day, as we've described in so many ways. 535 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,120 But that article completely misrepresented in Foreign 536 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,040 Affairs, this whole thing calling it a war in the Middle 537 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,080 East. It is not. 538 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,000 It is a completely disproportionate and genocidal 539 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,920 procedure and operation by the Israeli army. 540 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,480 Meanwhile, we're going after the Houthis for interfering with 541 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:31,400 shipping International Maritime shipping and not getting Israel 542 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:36,080 to stop its genocidal behaviour. The contradiction there and the 543 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,800 the hypocrisy is just too thick to navigate. 544 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,240 OK, Mark, thank you for that. Oh well, have you got any 545 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,240 closing thoughts on any of those subjects? 546 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,360 I just want to say that we live in a constitutional monarchy, 547 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,200 not a not a democracy and I think people keep me getting 548 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,640 those things mixed up all the time. 549 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,760 I totally agree with the last sentiment about England. 550 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,160 I'm very ashamed viewers, that we are bombing one of the 551 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,840 poorest countries in the world for interfering with shipping 552 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,960 whilst ignoring and I'm concentrating on the 7000 young 553 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,520 children that I see being pulled out of buildings and so forth 554 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,360 and I it's so horrible I can barely watch it sometimes. 555 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,239 The the disparity in what we're doing now with our foreign 556 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,600 policy with Lord Cameron needs to be really looked at closely. 557 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,840 I'm sure UK Column will do that anyway, but I agree with the 558 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,800 sentiment that's been expressed. OK. 559 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:36,840 Right. Thank. 560 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,760 Thank you very much for that. Well, I'm going to say to you 561 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:43,159 all, we're out of time, but I I would just like to say to the 562 00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:46,760 audience that that many of you are asking us to do more. 563 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,600 There's been some comments today where people are talking about 564 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,960 UK column putting on things in evenings. 565 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:58,440 My response to that is we are very, very keen to expand the UK 566 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:04,360 column, but we need your help to do that because to expand our 567 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,960 capacity invariably means that we need more people and that 568 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,240 means that we have to have more finance coming in. 569 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:17,880 So if you really value us and you want to see us expand, then 570 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,960 we have to say to you, please help us to gain new members 571 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:26,880 because this is the most important income source of 572 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,000 income for us. And we know that you've been 573 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,920 good to us over a great many years. 574 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,760 But I'll also say to you, we sense that we are the moment 575 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,640 under great pressure. There is a backlash against 576 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,480 media such as the UK column. There are many people who are 577 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,480 poking very sharp sticks at us. They don't like what we're 578 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,440 doing. They don't like the effect we're 579 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,040 having. So we'll say if we want to push 580 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,640 all that to one side and expand the UK column, then we need help 581 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,120 from our viewers and listeners to bring in those additional 582 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,880 members. And I'm not shy of saying this 583 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,040 because it's only by getting stronger that we will be able to 584 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:17,800 do more and also help people who are embroiled in battles with 585 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,560 the establishment themselves, such as Richard D Hall, for 586 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,040 example. But there are many other people. 587 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,840 OK, we've got to end it there. So I'm going to say, oh, well, 588 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,600 thank you very much for joining us. 589 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,800 It's been really great to have you on and we will look forward 590 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,680 to getting you on to the UK column news for some comment. 591 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,600 I'll be talking to you about that. 592 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:43,680 Mark, thanks for coming in from the States and enjoy your coffee 593 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,720 and bagel which I'm sure is coming up. 594 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,960 And Alex, not sure what you're up to now, but thanks for your 595 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,520 time. We'll end there. 596 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,800 Herring sounds. Sorry. 597 00:36:56,720 --> 00:37:01,880 Soust herrings and yeneva was the killer dish I remember from 598 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,960 my time in Holland. We'll end there. 599 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,520 Thanks for joining me. Bye. 600 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:06,880 Bye.