1 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,960 Good afternoon. It's just gone 1:00 on Wednesday 2 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,880 the 1st of October 2025. Welcome to UK Column News. 3 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:20,120 I'm your host, Charles Mannett, and I'm joined by Livelink by 4 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,800 Vanessa Bailey, who's in Lebanon and Diane Rasmussen from the 5 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,840 North of England. Now in today's programme we will 6 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:33,000 be focusing on the fact that all paths appear to be leading to 7 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,360 war and that will be the theme with an in depth look at the 8 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,280 United States, Gaza, Iran, Israel and of course the United 9 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,960 Kingdom, as well as the destruction of our environment 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,160 in the name of preserving it. But we're going to start the 11 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:50,520 programme with Home Affairs in that the Labour Party conference 12 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,840 is winding up today in Liverpool and has been characterised by 13 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,560 tit for tat insults traded with reform now viewed as the looming 14 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,720 threat to the Starmer regime. Now the BBC of course have had a 15 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,320 field day with this and we'll just look through some of the 16 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,000 bylines. We won't dignify them 17 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,520 necessarily with any in depth comment. 18 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,920 But Starmer talking about how he might change international law 19 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,640 due to the pressure surrounding migration. 20 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,400 Of course, the great football of the moment. 21 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:27,280 David Lammy having backtrack on, backtracked on remarks about 22 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,960 Nigel Farage singing Hitler Youth songs, of course, which he 23 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:35,040 cannot possibly substantiate. And then we go on to Tony Blair. 24 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,160 We will be dealing with him later in the programme, at least 25 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,640 obliquely I'm afraid, but remarkably, as Patrick 26 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,400 articulated on Friday, set to serve on Trump's board of peace 27 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,760 for Gaza. And indeed the question is 28 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,320 asked, Trump trust Blair but others don't. 29 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:56,000 Could he govern Gaza? Quite remarkable question to be 30 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,120 asked by any stretch of the imagination. 31 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,840 Now the wheels have absolutely appeared to come off. 32 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,760 As Ben was articulating on Monday's programme, the Labour 33 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,960 Starmer regime appears to be heading for the ditch. 34 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,280 And as part of this we've reported on the idea, the 35 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,760 recently floated of a mandatory yet free digital identity card 36 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,200 and indeed the petition which went with it. 37 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,960 Now it's interesting to note the top live petitions which are out 38 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,640 there on the government website at the moment and what it is 39 00:02:27,640 --> 00:02:31,760 exactly that they pertain to. We've got, in reverse order, a 40 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,320 petition about introducing offshore detention or mass 41 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,680 deportation for illegal migrants with nearly half a million 42 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,480 signatures, over half a million, which we've broadcast a lot 43 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:46,320 about before repealing the Online Safety Act again 544,000 44 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,800 there. We've had yet another petition 45 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,800 for a general election on nearly 1,000,000 signatures and of 46 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:57,880 course do not introduce digital identity cards at over 2 and a 47 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,880 half million signatures. Now, there are of course other 48 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,880 metrics by which we may gauge the success or otherwise of the 49 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,480 Labour Party. And one must be careful of 50 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,520 course, when examining statistics or indeed any kind of 51 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,200 analysis dealing with numbers and data. 52 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,600 But this is how more in common are predicting voting behaviour 53 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,760 of the public at were a general election to be cast now with 54 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,560 what they call MRP, which is multi level regression with post 55 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,440 stratification. Essentially a modelling process 56 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,080 using data from a voting intention poll to work out how 57 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,720 people will vote based on demographics, previous voting 58 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,800 behaviour and information about their constituency. 59 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,160 But the central issue simmering for years and brought to the 60 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,120 ball this summer is, of course, the immigration crisis crisis, 61 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,200 my design and in both senses so far, the way that it's 62 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,920 practically been put in front of the people and indeed the way 63 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,280 it's been reported now on that Diane attended an event in 64 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,160 Newcastle weekend pertaining to exactly this issue. 65 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,400 So we're just going to bring Diane into the programme now. 66 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,640 Diane, welcome. What exactly happened in 67 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,920 Newcastle at the weekend? Yes. 68 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,160 Thanks, Charles, and hello, everyone. 69 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,720 It's great to be here today. I just went to an event on 70 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,640 Saturday which I think was partially precipitated by the 71 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,640 fact that Ben Habib was in Newcastle on Saturday to launch 72 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:20,959 his new Advanced UK party, which was originally cancelled and 73 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:23,400 then rescheduled to somewhere else. 74 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,760 We don't really know where it was because it was not made 75 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,640 public and I was not intending to go to that particular event, 76 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,880 but I did want to see what was going on in the city around that 77 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,400 time. So there was a UKIP March that 78 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,000 started down at the Quayside for those of you who are familiar 79 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,240 with Newcastle. And then there were other groups 80 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,280 of, I guess we could say potential agitators from the 81 00:04:42,280 --> 00:04:45,960 other side. We could say Tony, Tony Robinson 82 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,160 types of oppositions. So those of us who are maybe on 83 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,800 the sort of we was called leftist, I guess you could say 84 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,320 it's really hard to say because they had so many things going 85 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,880 on. But we could see a lot of action 86 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,480 from both sides. But the so-called leftist side, 87 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,480 for lack of a better term, was definitely the largest and the 88 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,160 angriest and the most active. And obviously one of their main 89 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,400 topics of, of issue was refugees. 90 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:15,240 So both parties eventually ended up down towards the hotel, which 91 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,600 is the migrant hotel, the Newbridge Hotel in Newcastle. 92 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,920 And we got between the police lines of the two groups. 93 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,480 But I've got some video here of the angrier side of the two. 94 00:05:24,480 --> 00:06:01,800 If we could play that please. So what was really interesting 95 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,240 about that is as you saw, we were able to get between the 96 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,040 police lines as by saying that we were part of the media, but 97 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,840 the police were so relaxed about the whole thing. 98 00:06:09,840 --> 00:06:13,360 I didn't see a single police staff that looked at all worried 99 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,200 about what was going on. It just seemed like another day 100 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,920 on the job, Charles. Absolutely, Don, good for you 101 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,840 getting out there, but also, you know, being able to see it first 102 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:26,680 hand how the issue is is literally one of division with 103 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,520 people segregated and separated both physically but also 104 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,080 psychologically as well. And that is exactly what seems 105 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,840 to be driven by reform presenting themselves as an 106 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:40,280 alternative. But as we see from Richard 107 00:06:40,280 --> 00:06:44,560 Tice's Twitter profile, he's recently visited Israel. 108 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,400 And of course he falls in line with almost every other 109 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,840 politician of every colour and persuasion. 110 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:53,360 And in this instance, rather remarkably, he has gone all the 111 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,760 way to Israel to, in his words, apologise for the appalling 112 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,840 betrayal by Labour. He refers, of course, to the 113 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:03,360 recognition of the Palestinian state by the Labour Party. 114 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,120 Recently. He follows up his tweet by 115 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,200 thanking Gideon SAR for the meeting they had and of course 116 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,560 saying that Reform UK will be relied upon by Israel to stand 117 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,640 by or stand with Israel. He tweets about his visit to 118 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,160 Jerusalem and of course he lays wreath saying in memory to the 119 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,760 victims of the Holocaust on behalf of Reform UK. 120 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,680 Now not necessarily to have a go specifically at that might there 121 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,720 might be a whole range of reasons that he would seek to do 122 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,520 it. However, the optics of course 123 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:36,080 are such when one considers exactly the target of the 124 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,280 migration rhetoric from Reform, and of course with the Holocaust 125 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:44,120 Memorial Bill in play at the moment, it is worth noting that 126 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,880 this is the line from Reform. Now one should always follow the 127 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,200 money and in doing so that leads us to Christopher Harbourne 128 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:56,560 shown here by Donation Watch as the major donor to Reform, with 129 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,600 the absolutely outstripping any other donors by quite some 130 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,320 considerable margin. And he is the major shareholder 131 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,440 in Kinetic, the arms manufacturer shown by the 132 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,240 Campaign against Arms Trade, of course as a provider of weapons 133 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,160 to Israel's. Just finally and quickly we just 134 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,760 look at the policies from Reform. 135 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,560 Fairly innocuous photograph of Nigel Farage, but it just seems 136 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,680 curious to look at the detail of him holding the very device 137 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,720 which of course enables digital ID in the 1st place. 138 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,520 So with that in mind, I would just conclude by saying it. 139 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,559 It's been interesting to note that he and Tice have visited 140 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,000 the Bank of England recently and met the Governor and are talking 141 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,360 about a cosy relationship with the Governor. 142 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,400 And indeed Farage, whilst saying that he's opposed to central 143 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,400 bank digital currency, acknowledging of course that the 144 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,400 suggestion that exists in the 1st place is to prevent fraud, 145 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,160 which of course he is not at all aiming to dismiss. 146 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,440 So there are a number of ways in which Reform are being presented 147 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,560 as an alternative to the Labour Party. 148 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,360 My contention, I think from the way in which UK column has 149 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,200 examined this over the past few years, is that this appears to 150 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,360 be nothing more than a false binary. 151 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,520 And the only difference really between a Reform government and 152 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,720 a Labour government would be the speed with which reform might 153 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,720 change anything. They could simply be operating 154 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,600 in a different gear. Now that takes us on to what's 155 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,560 been happening over on the other side of the Atlantic, and in 156 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:24,080 particular what Pete Hegseth has been doing. 157 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:29,120 We reported recently that he is now running what's called the 158 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,920 Department of War and he's been speaking to all ranks. 159 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,920 And he would certainly win an award for hyperbole. 160 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,280 He he spoke for 45 minutes. He quoted Donald Trump as saying 161 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,360 that the United States has the strongest, most powerful, most 162 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,400 lethal and most prepared military on the planet. 163 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,480 And he certainly started as he meant to carry on. 164 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:57,000 So what we'll do now is just go to a video of him at the during 165 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:58,800 the in the early stages of his speech. 166 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,080 And then I'm going to ask Vanessa for a bit of comment on 167 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:06,920 on what it is that he said. The Joint Chiefs, generals, 168 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:12,840 Admirals, commanders, officers, senior enlisted, NCO's enlisted 169 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,080 in every member of our American military. 170 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:24,600 Good morning, good morning, and welcome to the War Department 171 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:30,320 because the era of the Department of Defence is over. 172 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,440 You see, the motto of my first platoon was those who long for 173 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:42,360 peace must prepare for war. So this is about that he's, he's 174 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,840 very much trying to leverage his own experiences in the military, 175 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,360 imagining that he's he's one of them and that therefore they 176 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,280 should listen to him and, and trying to sort of get them on 177 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,480 side that way. He goes on to talk about a whole 178 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,880 load of other things, talking about more innovation, more AI, 179 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,760 more cyber effects. Interestingly, in contrast to 180 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,960 what's been going on in the United Kingdom, of course, he 181 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:06,400 talks about onshoring all of their critical components, which 182 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,040 of course is not the case in the United Kingdom with so many 183 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,040 things, particularly being manufactured by Israel. 184 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,600 But Vanessa, obviously you've been looking very much at what 185 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,520 what he said. I mean in in terms of his 186 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,000 approach to those that were present. 187 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:25,520 What are your thoughts on that? Well, I mean, the entire speech 188 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,920 for me was extremely sinister based on the context of looming 189 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:35,640 regional war here, both against Iran, Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq and 190 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,560 so on. And, and the chatter here that 191 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,080 that war is imminent. But, but I find it extraordinary 192 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,280 this, this claim that the era of defence is over. 193 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,720 We're in the era of war. And that echoes, I can't 194 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:53,320 actually remember which of the many British leaders that said 195 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,440 exactly the same during, I think the Ukraine war. 196 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:03,120 So, you know, I mean, it's, it's to A, to a degree, American 197 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:08,280 spokespeople now and members of Trump's administration are very 198 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:16,400 brazen in outlying their agenda. Yes, absolutely. 199 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,360 And I think is it very interesting that one of the 200 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,680 points he was he was making, which seemed to contradict 201 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:23,680 itself, was he was talking about what needing military leaders 202 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:26,640 who are apolitical and, and acknowledging that there had 203 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,000 been a sort of, you know, state of political riding off the 204 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,480 rails of the armed forces and that they were going to correct 205 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,120 that, which of course would apparently be political. 206 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,960 So we'll just have a listen now to to what he went on to say 207 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,360 concerning that that sort of apparent discrepancy. 208 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,960 This administration has done a great deal from day one to 209 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,520 remove the social justice, politically correct and toxic 210 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,480 ideological garbage that had infected our department to RIP 211 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:01,960 out the politics. No more identity months, DEI 212 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:07,920 offices, dudes in dresses. No more climate change worship. 213 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,240 No more division, distraction or gender delusions. 214 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,960 No more debris. As I've said before and will say 215 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,840 again, we are done with that shit. 216 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,560 I've made it my mission to uproot the obvious distractions 217 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:25,720 that made us less capable and less lethal. 218 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,880 That said, the War Department requires the next step. 219 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,840 Underneath the woke garbage is a deeper problem and a more 220 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,480 important problem that we are fixing and fixing fast. 221 00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:43,840 Common sense is back at the White House, so making the 222 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,480 necessary changes is actually pretty straightforward. 223 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:53,240 President Trump expects it. And the litmus test for these 224 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,160 changes? It's pretty simple. 225 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:04,280 Would I want my eldest son, who is 15 years old, eventually 226 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,960 joining the types of formations that we are currently wielding? 227 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,360 If in any way the answer to that is no, or even yes? 228 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,080 But then we're doing something wrong. 229 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,840 Because my son is no more important than any other 230 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,160 American citizen who Dons the cloth of our nation. 231 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:25,840 He is no more important than your Son, all precious souls 232 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,800 made in the image and likeness of God. 233 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,320 There you go. I mean, he's doing grand job. 234 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,160 You know, for anyone who's receptive to to that sort of 235 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,680 thing, he really is pulling at all the sort of heartstrings 236 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,400 and, you know, invoking parenthood and all that kind of 237 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:41,800 thing. What struck me about that, 238 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,760 Vanessa, was that he talks about, you know, the armed 239 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,960 forces being exactly the right state in order that one's son 240 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,600 might consider joining. OK, fair enough. 241 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,040 Let's take that at face value. Of course, what that enables him 242 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,400 to completely gloss over is the sorts of things that the United 243 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,040 States military might actually be engaged in. 244 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,520 Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I again, I just find 245 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:10,560 this deeply sinister when one considers that effectively what 246 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,400 he's saying is you need to be prepared to go and fight for 247 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:18,160 Israel. This has nothing to do with 248 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,960 American patriotism. This literally is to do with 249 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:28,360 being allied to and loyal to Israel, Right? 250 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:33,120 And when with the ramping up of the war machine against West 251 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,080 Asia and against Iran, that's exactly what he's saying. 252 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,320 So what he's actually saying is that you all need to be behind 253 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,240 Israel. There can be no political or 254 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,800 religious deviation from this. And when he's talking about 255 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,040 Christianity, of course he's talking about Christian Zionism. 256 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,880 He's not talking about true Christianity. 257 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,280 Yeah, that's exactly it. And one wonders how many of the 258 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,520 audience, well, I mean, there's two things really. 259 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,080 You know, this presumed is being broadcast first of all, to his 260 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,480 immediate audience, obviously, and then across all the various 261 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,360 units who are supposed to sort of be receiving this directly 262 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,240 from the, you know, from the the war secretary. 263 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:11,920 But. But I, I think, you know, one of 264 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,840 the questions is why, Why are we saying it? 265 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,080 Why is it on? Why is it on YouTube? 266 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,920 Why is it on Twitter? I mean, this is sort of internal 267 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,280 and yet exactly like you're articulating, there's a message 268 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,320 there that he doesn't need to explicitly say. 269 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:23,920 But those who know. No. 270 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,400 Yeah. I mean, the hype, the hype has 271 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,160 been ongoing for more than a week. 272 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,720 I mean, I mean, you know, everyone's been chattering 273 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,720 about, oh, God, this upcoming meeting with all the generals, 274 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,720 it's unprecedented and so on and so forth. 275 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:43,280 And it's deliberately there to to, let's say, swing popular 276 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,640 opinion behind what America is going to do next. 277 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,520 Yeah, that's exactly right. I've just got one more short 278 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,880 clip and then we can play the the rest in extra. 279 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,080 Let's just listen to how he how he sort of wrapped up. 280 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,000 These same reforms happened before World War 2 as well. 281 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,520 General George Marshall and Secretary of War Henry Stimson 282 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,920 did the same thing and we won a World War because of it. 283 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:14,440 As it happens, when he started the job, Chairman Kane gave me a 284 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,720 frame and a photo to hang in my office. 285 00:17:17,839 --> 00:17:20,880 A matching frame and photo hangs in his. 286 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,599 It's a photo of Marshall and Stimson preparing for World War 287 00:17:25,599 --> 00:17:28,520 2. Those two leaders famously kept 288 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,400 the door open between their offices for the entirety of the 289 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,520 war. They worked together, civilian 290 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:40,640 and uniform, every single day. Chairman Kane and I do the same. 291 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,320 There is no daylight between us. Our doors are always open. 292 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,160 Our job together is to ensure our military is led by the very 293 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,840 best, ready to answer the nation's call. 294 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:56,760 He's got some pretty grand ideas. 295 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,760 And I should also point out that in his in his speech, he also 296 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:04,040 said that he needs a force that is going to send people to 297 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:09,080 dangerous places to find those who would do our nation harm and 298 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,760 deliver justice on behalf of the American people in close and 299 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:18,520 brutal combat, if necessary. So this is just, you know, sort 300 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,360 of Expeditionary talk, trying to invoke kind of warrior spirit 301 00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:24,360 and all the rest of it. And as you say, a lot of a lot 302 00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:31,360 of judeo-christian rhetoric Now, Vanessa, that's sort of going to 303 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:34,840 lead us into the next part because of course he is. 304 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,200 He's apparently preparing for a war. 305 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,000 But I suspect he must know that if there is to be, you know, 306 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,240 specifically the war, I said earlier we're going to be 307 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,840 talking about the the Gaza plan. We've referred to Tony Blair. 308 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,640 So, so what's your analysis of the, you know, the so-called 309 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:57,560 Gaza peace plan? Well, I mean the Gaza peace plan 310 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:02,440 is really a reiteration of what we've seen many times since 311 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,160 October the 7th in various guises and forms. 312 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,760 And of course the Tony Blair Institute was exposed as having 313 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,680 played a part in some of the planning sessions previously. 314 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:17,120 The fact that Tony Blair is now front and centre should be no 315 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:19,120 surprise. He was the Middle East so-called 316 00:19:19,120 --> 00:19:22,120 peace envoy previously. He's hated in the Middle East 317 00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:27,360 for his infanticidal role in Iraq and and in the entire 318 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,080 region. So to put this into context, I'm 319 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:34,680 just going to basically show a couple of excerpts from 320 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:39,480 Netanyahu's speech at the UNGA. Glad to say that the majority of 321 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,400 nations walked out when he started speaking, except for, of 322 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,480 course, those that are fully aligned with Israel and the 323 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,040 genocide in Palestine. So as part of his speech, he 324 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:55,600 basically rejected the idea entirely of a Palestinian state. 325 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,360 He said giving the Palestinians a state one mile from Jerusalem 326 00:19:59,360 --> 00:20:03,320 after October the 7th is like giving Al Qaeda a state one mile 327 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,960 from New York City after 911. This is Shia madness. 328 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,760 Israel will not allow you to shove a terrorist state down our 329 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,080 throats. Well, that is super interesting 330 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,960 for me because of course we'll come on to that at the. 331 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,880 Recent UNGA was attended by former members of al Qaeda, in 332 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,480 fact former founder members of al Qaeda. 333 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,600 But let's have a listen to another section of this speech 334 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,000 in which he points out that it is the majority view in Israel 335 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,640 that no state of Palestine will ever exist. 336 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:41,280 So let's just play this. We will not commit national 337 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,760 suicide because you don't have the guts to face down a hostile 338 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,480 media and anti-Semitic mobs demanding Israel's blood. 339 00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:56,920 And I want you to grasp something else which is also 340 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:02,040 distorted in the media. I say this not only in my name 341 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:08,600 or the name of my government, but on behalf of all the people 342 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,320 of Israel. Last year there was a vote in 343 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,000 the Knesset, our parliament, whether or not to oppose the 344 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,800 imposition of a Palestinian state. 345 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,600 You want to guess what the results were? 346 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:27,480 Out of 120 members of our parliament, 99 voted against and 347 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,760 only 9 supported. That's over 90%. 348 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,040 Which of course is what we've been saying since October the 349 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,680 7th and even before then, that virtually the majority of the 350 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,640 population of Israel are in favour of the ethnic cleansing 351 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,520 project to rid what they consider the state of Israel 352 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,240 from any Palestinian presence. But as I mentioned, of course, 353 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:59,440 interesting that he mentions al Qaeda and New York when Al Qaeda 354 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,080 were given red carpet treatment in New York at the UNGA. 355 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:09,240 And this is Jelani meeting with Roland Ronald, sorry, Lauda, who 356 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:15,080 is head of the Jewish Congress and of course an Uber Zionist 357 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,760 and a great friend of Netanyahu. And they were discussing the 358 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,400 Syria Israel peace agreement and so on. 359 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,840 So, you know, it, it, it, it's is his entire speech is, is a 360 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:31,200 litany of hypocrisy. But I'm going to come on to the 361 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,440 actual peace plan, the points of which have been revealed in 362 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,520 multiple media outlets. This is in the Times of Israel, 363 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,400 the 21 points plan for ending the Gaza war and creating a 364 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,360 pathway to a Palestinian state, which of course it doesn't. 365 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,040 So I've basically summarised the points that were laid out in 366 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,040 this article and we'll run through them very quickly. 367 00:22:55,040 --> 00:23:00,240 Of course, first of all, Gaza to be de radicalised and there to 368 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:05,160 be education or re education programs to change mindsets of 369 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,720 Palestinians. In other words, to force them to 370 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:13,120 abandon any idea of Palestinian statehood or even justice for 371 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:16,960 the 100 years plus of ethnic cleansing and genocide that has 372 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:22,080 been ongoing since 1917. It will be redeveloped for the 373 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,200 benefit of the people of Palestine. 374 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,760 Of course we know that's not true. 375 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,600 We've covered multiple times on UK column the potential for a 376 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,520 multinational free trade zone. Sorry, can I just go back to, to 377 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,440 that slide quickly the first one? 378 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,800 Yes, thank you. So then IOF will halt 379 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,240 operations, gradual withdrawal. So they're not committing to 380 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,520 withdrawing to full withdrawal immediately. 381 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,640 Within 48 hours after Israel publicly accepts the deal, all 382 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,160 hostages, living or dead Israeli hostages will be returned. 383 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:04,440 And after this, Israel will free several 100 security prisoners 384 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,520 and 1000 Gazans arrested during the war. 385 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,040 Now, of course, this doesn't take into account the 9010 386 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,840 thousand Palestinian prisoners that are still being held as 387 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:18,160 hostages effectively in Israel, Israeli jails, and who are being 388 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,280 effectively tortured, raped, abused on a daily if not hourly 389 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,680 basis. Then we get on to a few more 390 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:30,320 points from the peace plan. So allegedly Hamas members can 391 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,760 safely leave Gaza or accept amnesty to remain if of course, 392 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,320 they promise to disarm and give up all ideas of Palestinian 393 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,400 statehood. Hamas has actually come forward 394 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,160 requesting amendments and they've pointed out, well, does 395 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,280 that mean that we're not going to get assassinated in Qatar or 396 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,320 in the country that we decide to go to, as has been happening? 397 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:56,120 Of course, aid and rehabilitation will take place, 398 00:24:56,120 --> 00:24:59,680 distribution of the aid by UN agencies, although they've 399 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,480 banned UNRWA and Red Crescent and the very high chance that 400 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,520 Gaza Humanitarian Foundation will be allowed back in, who of 401 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,880 course of themselves been committing crimes against 402 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:16,240 Palestinians, trying to to reach aid centres, A transitional 403 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,120 governance by Palestinian technocrats under the 404 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:23,360 supervision of the US, Arab and EU partners. 405 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:27,800 So in other words, total sort of disenfranchisement of 406 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,840 Palestinians effectively in Gaza. 407 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,000 Then it goes on. There will be a free trade zone 408 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,560 in Gaza, which is exactly what we've been talking about. 409 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,440 This creation of a free trade zone under the control of the US 410 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:44,120 and the Zionist bloc. Opportunities for Gazans if they 411 00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:47,880 decide to remain, which I presume will mean to act as 412 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,560 slave labour for the free trade zone and industry that will be 413 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,320 under the control of the Zionist total demilitarization. 414 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,920 Regional partners of Israel will provide security guarantees. 415 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,800 US and Arab security will effectively occupy Gaza after PA 416 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:09,960 reform because of course, the Palestinian Authority, Netanyahu 417 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,840 also attacks them in his UNGA speech. 418 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,760 So after they've been reformed and all the former measures have 419 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,400 been taken, then there will be discussion of Palestinian 420 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,040 statehood. So, so this is not offering 421 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,080 anything. This is effectively saying you 422 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,840 will all come into line. You will do everything that 423 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,080 Israel requires of you. And what's going to happen, it 424 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,880 will push Hamas into a corner. They've already come forward 425 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,000 with a request for amendments and a request for further time 426 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,840 to consider the peace plan and to come back with their answer. 427 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,320 But of course, what Israel is doing is pushing Hamas in a 428 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,400 corner where they'll be deemed the belligerent because they 429 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,800 don't agree with all the conditions that effectively 430 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,360 completely disenfranchise Palestinians. 431 00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:58,960 In Gaza, President Donald Trump is declaring it a historic day 432 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,600 for peace. Hala Jaba, a Lebanese 433 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,240 journalist, has a different concept of that. 434 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,560 She says behind the fanfare of one of the greatest days in 435 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:14,040 civilization lies humiliation, exile and a trusteeship that 436 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,360 Palestinians have never asked for and in fact, they've fought 437 00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:21,720 against. And finally, if we look at this 438 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,720 is a recent tripartite trilateral phone call with 439 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,960 Donald Trump in Netanyahu, where in fact they've also said to 440 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,240 Qatar who was recently bombed by Israel, we promise not to bomb 441 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,480 you again. And so Qatar as effectively as 442 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:43,320 David Meno said, come into line with the so-called peace plan. 443 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,320 You can read his his disgust at that, of course. 444 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,080 And he mentions again that Tony Blair is heavily involved. 445 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,320 And finally, if we do, we have a last video. 446 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,840 Sorry, I'm getting. We don't, but no. 447 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,800 OK, that's fine. That's it. 448 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,800 Sorry. OK, now thanks very much. 449 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,760 And of course, the other thing to point out, which you 450 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,480 mentioned before we started recording, oh sorry, started the 451 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:14,080 program was that, you know, in a way it's an indication of the 452 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,480 sort of incredibly short nature of the new cycle that this in 453 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,200 effect is being sold as something that's completely 454 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,440 novel and hasn't happened before. 455 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,880 But of course, extremely 1 sided and exactly just a rehash of of 456 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,200 what's gone past so many times. So we'll, we'll absolutely be 457 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,520 talking about that more in extra. 458 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,960 Now that moves on to talk about what the UK column does. 459 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,680 And if you are not yet a member, then please do consider joining. 460 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,200 We have a wealth of resources on the website itself in terms of 461 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,680 all sorts of materials on any topic you might consider looking 462 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,720 and looking up or looking into. If you are able to support us 463 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,720 then please click here on the front page as shown on the image 464 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,680 on screen. As the evenings draw in a bit 465 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,880 and it cools down you might consider something from the UK 466 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,000 column shop. 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And then a reminder of our event 476 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,760 in York, which of course is sold out as far as in person tickets, 477 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,120 but there are still tickets available for the live stream. 478 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,920 So please do consider joining us. 479 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,320 And I should remind you that if you do buy a ticket for the live 480 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,520 stream, you do not have to sit down and watch it at the time it 481 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,160 will be available to you thereafter. 482 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,520 That will also apply to people who are coming in person and you 483 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,520 will have access to and Andy Wakefield's amazing film, 484 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,760 Protocol 7. Andy Wakefield will be there 485 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,400 speaking about the way in which his career was derailed by his 486 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,520 challenging of the Pharmaceutical industry, 487 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,000 particularly on the issue of vaccines, and how he's gone on 488 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,200 to make a successful career as a film producer. 489 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,000 And of course, we'll be talking about the making of Protocol 7. 490 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,440 Liz Evans will be talking about medical ethics, in which she has 491 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,240 a considerable wealth of knowledge. 492 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,760 Ben Rubin, We'll be talking about the impact that the 493 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:30,200 National Health Service has made since its establishment and 494 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,760 indeed the questioning, the very process by which it was set up. 495 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,200 Tess Laurie, of course, talking about her, what drove her to set 496 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,440 up and run the World Council for Health. 497 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,760 And Julian Rose will be speaking about the inextricable link 498 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:47,840 between human health and soil health and how important life on 499 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:52,880 the land really is in pertaining to are very existent. 500 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,240 So please do if you can join us for that live stream, go to the 501 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,680 UK column website and get your ticket. 502 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,080 Now I said that the theme running throughout today's 503 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,480 programme was going to be war and on the propaganda side of 504 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,840 it, which might be a little bit harsh in the mind of the editor 505 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,080 of Soldier magazine. I'm going to have a look at the 506 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,400 publication that serves the British Army soldier the 507 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,000 September issue entitled leading by example on the front page. 508 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,800 Interesting to note, First off on the inside cover is an advert 509 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,280 from Help for Heroes talking about readying people for Sibley 510 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,320 St. just to show how mission creep works. 511 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,800 Because, of course, Help for Heroes were set up to deal with 512 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,200 people who were returning from Afghanistan in particular with 513 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,920 injuries and wounds. And of course, this is very 514 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,520 relevant to what we're talking about because in a sense, Pete 515 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,480 Hegseth was referring to the sort of skill fate of a 516 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,920 generation who've not been involved in kinetic action and 517 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,800 wanting to be able to maintain contact, as it were, with the 518 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,360 enemy. Also advertising in the magazine 519 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:03,920 are arms manufacturers and the defence trade fair, DSE, Sorry 520 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,840 DSEI, which happened in London, the Defence and Security 521 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,880 Equipment International and we'll come back to that a little 522 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,960 bit later. Also Viking, again advertising 523 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,960 their weapon systems, but notably Elbit. 524 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,520 Of course, we've talked about Elbit a lot on the news, the 525 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,800 Israeli weapons manufacturer who have a plant near Bristol which 526 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,360 has been the subject of a lot of activity with the now prescribed 527 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,480 group Palestine Action. But what I want to draw your 528 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:35,160 attention to is their mortar, 120 millimetre mortar system 529 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,280 called Sling, which they're saying delivers enhanced 530 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,520 lethality, deployability and survivability for light forces. 531 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,240 But the key bit here is that they're saying it's 532 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,200 operationally proven. Now how are they qualifying 533 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,160 that? Well, we go to Jane's defence, 534 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,160 who ran an article on this back in January of this year, talking 535 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:56,080 about upgrades and developments, this particular item of 536 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,800 equipment and saying I quote Jane's learnt that the Iron 537 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,840 Sting munition is undergoing development in response to 538 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,080 feedback from the ongoing conflict in the Middle East. 539 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:10,880 So there we have it. Jane's is confirming that 540 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,280 Soldier Magazine, not exactly an internal publication but 541 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,240 certainly one that does get put out to serving army in 542 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,080 particular is advertising the very weapons systems which are 543 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,160 being proven in Gaza. And the suggestion there 544 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,160 obviously is that the British Army should be preparing to 545 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,800 purchase such equipment and indeed to get people trained up 546 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,520 on that because they know it works in Gaza. 547 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,680 So that is quite a thought in considering exactly where it is 548 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,840 that that soldier has has gone in terms of advertising. 549 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,440 Now, the other thing I wanted to bring out in terms of propaganda 550 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,720 was there's a there's a whole piece on sort of young people 551 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,840 and university students joining the university officer training 552 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,000 corps. This again comes out in the 553 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,240 interview tomorrow that Brian and I sorry, the the discussion 554 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,080 that Brian and I had military matters, but but what it bears 555 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,320 relation to is the pledge to recruit more and more people 556 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,560 into the armed forces without having to use conscriptions. 557 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,400 So they say. And I've got on screen now the 558 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,120 conscription and national Service document from the 28th 559 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,679 of March this year. And just to enlarge the picture 560 00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:18,800 on screen, it's no coincidence that the front rank shown there 561 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,120 are women. And of course there is a push to 562 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,280 make 30% of the armed forces women where the current 563 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,440 percentage currently is at 12% with no real idea of how they 564 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,040 will actually do that. Now the other thing I wanted to 565 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,719 to bring in, which was mentioned by Ben on Monday, was Estonia. 566 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,760 Now he was talking particularly in regard to their digital 567 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,400 transformation. And I think it mustn't be 568 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,080 forgotten that alongside this, they have been absolutely 569 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,600 instrumental in the NATO plans and indeed sort of European 570 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,199 defence plans in order to provide what they're describing 571 00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:56,679 as being an opposition to Russia and the United Kingdom armed 572 00:34:56,679 --> 00:35:00,280 forces been involved very much with Estonia and Estonians. 573 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,000 So it's interesting to note that at the same event, the DSEI, 574 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,480 they unveiled a 10 billion defence spending plan. 575 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,280 And of course, they echo Pete Hegseth's words on Twitter 576 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:15,400 talking about standing for peace through strength. 577 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,360 However, they do actually trace this a little bit further back 578 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,560 than Hegseth because their National Defence Development 579 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,920 Plan, which runs up until 2031, goes back to 2021. 580 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:31,400 And they talk about the human resources side of it, which of 581 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:37,280 course they by which they mean that they need to conscript 582 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,120 people for their armed forces and they're planning on an 583 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,400 uplift of that. I mean, OK, the point very well 584 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,120 made by Ben is that Estonia obviously is a very small and 585 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,920 not very populous country. But nonetheless, this is the 586 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,160 direction of travel. And I think with that in mind, 587 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,400 with what Hegseth has said about about sort of being absolutely 588 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,360 prepared for war and all this strength through peace, we're 589 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,000 now going to go back to Vanessa. Because of course, as discussed 590 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,680 many times in UK column, Iran is so often the focus of all of 591 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,840 this sort of rhetoric. And quite probably more than 592 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,480 that, Vanessa. Yeah, absolutely. 593 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,400 So we're just going to have a very quick look at what 594 00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:19,200 particularly Israeli media has been saying. 595 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,480 This is in Israel high on Israel and Iran on a collision course. 596 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,920 This is all in the last few days. 597 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,360 Israel and Iran on a collision course for another war. 598 00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:33,560 And then Jerusalem Post has put out a very detailed article also 599 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:39,680 saying we may need to act again. A senior IOF official warns of a 600 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,960 renewed Iranian threat, and in within that article they 601 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,800 actually mention a statement recently made by a former IRGC 602 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:55,400 commander, Mohsen Rezaei, who warned that Iran would enter a 603 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,320 war with the United States if Israel carried out another 604 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,320 attack against it and said Tehran would not accept 605 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,240 negotiations with Western countries. 606 00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:06,640 That would give Israel time to prepare or to strengthen its 607 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,440 position. He struck A darker tone in his 608 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,560 remarks, saying that if the war lasts 2 months today, there 609 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,400 would be nothing left of Israel. The Israelis want to try their 610 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,280 military luck against Iran again. 611 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,920 If this happens, we will use all our forces. 612 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,920 We will change our red lines and things will happen that are not 613 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,960 right for me to say now. So Iran is very clearly 614 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,400 responding to what is happening. And of course, part of what is 615 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,600 happening is again, just as they're doing with Hezbollah in 616 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:40,600 Lebanon, Hamas in Palestine and the Iraqi resistance non state 617 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,880 actors trying also to disarm them. 618 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,280 They're using the snapback mechanism that has been imposed 619 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,360 now or reinstated by the United Nations at the behest of the UK, 620 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,680 Germany and France. If we can just move the slide on 621 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,920 again within. No, sorry, back to the Wynette 622 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,720 one. Well, thank you. 623 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:10,760 So Wynette reported that Israel remained on heightened alert 624 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,480 after the UN reinstated sanctions. 625 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,040 And so clearly the sanctions which restore an arms embargo, 626 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,360 restriction on uranium enrichment and ballistic missile 627 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,320 activity, asset freezes and travel bans. 628 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,360 This again is, is totally unjustified. 629 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,720 And yet what it's doing, of course, in in public perception, 630 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,000 those that are not well informed on what has actually been going 631 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,960 on with the nuclear negotiations for some time, of course Trump 632 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:45,280 pulled out of them in 2018. It, it, it portrays Iran as the 633 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,600 belligerent, as I said, in preparation for an escalation 634 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:54,000 and aggression against them. And if we look at again, back to 635 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:59,320 Hagseth, who did an interview again in the Jerusalem first 636 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,520 post, we're fighting the same War on Terror. 637 00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:04,800 This is a conversation with Pete Hagseth. 638 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,640 And within that interview he basically reiterates that he 639 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,200 sees A1 state solution, which of course will be the one state of 640 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,280 Israel, not of Palestine. He even rejects the two state 641 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:21,120 solution, which of course we know is is not viable anyway. 642 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,680 And he talks about war with Iran and and he brings in the 643 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,160 biblical context for war with Iran. 644 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,840 As I said, Christian Zionism on full display. 645 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,160 And then this is a very good account on Telegram that I 646 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,840 recommend everybody following Enemy Watch who does an 647 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,360 excellent job of of keeping up with events in West Asia. 648 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,800 In particular, they've been putting out information about 649 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,120 planned attacks on Iran, Iraq and Yemen. 650 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,160 Aerial refuelling tankers are on route to the Middle East. 651 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:55,600 An estimated 12 US Air Force KC135 Strata tankers transferred 652 00:39:55,600 --> 00:40:06,280 from US to EU bases and then also also the RA FRC135 W sorry 653 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:12,760 joint electronic intelligence aircraft that are flying to the 654 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,920 Qatari air base. From within Britain and there 655 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,560 are multiple reports really of other movements of particularly 656 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,040 aircraft to the Middle East area. 657 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,800 Iran itself also has been running tests on missiles. 658 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,840 Drones have been spotted over the western border of Iran 659 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,600 patrolling and surveilling. And they've also put out another 660 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,760 statement which said that they're not going to any longer 661 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:47,200 stick to the restrictions on their missile range. 662 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,200 In other words, this is a direct threat to the European Union 663 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,800 that they will no longer only consider Israel as their target. 664 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,960 And then finally, the US has been supplying further for 665 00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:05,720 further third air defence systems to reinforce the six 666 00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:09,160 existing systems in Israel. Of course, one of the problems 667 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:15,200 in the last Iran, Israel war was that Israel was effectively 668 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,560 starting to run out of interceptor munitions. 669 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,520 And so therefore the US is clearly trying to reinforce 670 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,200 their ability to intercept missiles coming in from Iran. 671 00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:30,720 In my opinion, speaking to particularly Iranians who are 672 00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:34,640 currently here in Lebanon that I've had the opportunity to to 673 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,680 speak to, they're effectively saying that Iran in the last war 674 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,320 didn't even use its most advanced missiles. 675 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,520 And therefore, in their opinion, the third interceptors are not 676 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,960 really going to be still capable of intercepting the more 677 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,920 advanced missiles from Iran. But you know, the chatter here 678 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,840 in Lebanon, the chatter in Syria is that the region is about to 679 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:02,120 go boom, as someone said to me this morning from inside Syria. 680 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,760 And, and certainly that's where we seem to be heading. 681 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:09,240 And we can't also forget when we talk about the biblical context, 682 00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:13,840 the the Christian Zionist end time ideology, which of course 683 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:19,520 requires effectively apocalyptic war in order to bring about the 684 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,720 second coming of Christ. Now, many of us may consider 685 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:26,440 that to be an extreme narrative, but nevertheless, that is how 686 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,640 these people think. It's how Pete Hagseth thinks. 687 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,320 Many articles have been written about his Christian Zionist 688 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,320 extremism, so we should expect the worst to be honest. 689 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,880 Indeed, Vanessa, thank you very much. 690 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,480 And and just on that to to consider what Hexis said, where 691 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,480 the UK appears to be now and you know the comment about the 692 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,320 region going boom. Do you think there will be or 693 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,840 there is intent for in the first instance, the Americans and the 694 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,760 British to get involved in in an on the ground context? 695 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,960 No, I don't think so. Israel potentially will get 696 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:10,720 involved on the ground in Lebanon, not in Yemen or Iran at 697 00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:14,000 the moment. They'll probably try to trigger 698 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:19,200 internal reactions within Iran against the government and in 699 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,440 Syria. They'll weaponize the Takfiri 700 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,920 elements against Iraq and Lebanon potentially. 701 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,880 OK, OK, Vanessa, thank you very much indeed. 702 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,480 And we'll don't just return to that in extra. 703 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,120 Now working on the premise that there's no such thing as 704 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,800 coincidence, we'll review the communications from the embassy, 705 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,320 British Embassy in Mogadishu who've recently put out a 706 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,280 statement saying that the United Kingdom is contributing over £30 707 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,160 million to support Somalia's security transition. 708 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,160 Now, of course, this is not a a new thing. 709 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,520 The United Kingdom, in all sorts of guises, has been very much 710 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:55,480 involved with affairs Somali. But it is interesting to note, 711 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,400 as reported by TRT Africa, that Somalia is just about to begin 712 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,600 drilling for its own oil in the coming months. 713 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,880 We see the Somali president just coming up off ship, presumably 714 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,160 investigating where this offshore is. 715 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,760 It's reckoned to be an enormous resource. 716 00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:15,400 And the point to note on this is how it pertains to Turkey, 717 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,760 because the interested party, the company that's going to be 718 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,880 doing the drilling, is Turkish. And there's an article here that 719 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,560 I've got a note for, sorry, a link to in the show notes on the 720 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,840 Geopolitics Unplugged Substack talking about how Turkey has 721 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:33,240 turned Russian sanctions to its advantage largely due to its 722 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:39,800 strategic geostrategic position in relation to its geography. 723 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,680 But of course, what mustn't be forgotten in all of this is the 724 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,600 United Kingdom's murky dealings with regard to particular 725 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:52,600 Somaliland and the recognition of sovereignty by Ethiopia, 726 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,200 which granted access to the port of Berbra by the Berbra 727 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,160 corridor. Now, this might sound completely 728 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,600 unrelated to anything that you're necessarily concerned 729 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:06,520 with, but in actual fact, the Port of Berbra is run by the UAE 730 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,400 company DP World, which of course was partly funded by the 731 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,160 British taxpayer through British International Investment. 732 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,360 And we see here that they are of course involved in London. 733 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,960 This was reported on by Ben Rubin a number of weeks ago. 734 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,840 The Thames Freeport of course, described as being something 735 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:31,120 that might seem like it's being run by government, but actually 736 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,960 it's not. It's owned by DP World out of 737 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,680 UAE and and indeed it's something that we will keep a 738 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,680 very close eye on. But this this would appear to 739 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:46,320 relate directly back to the UK stirring up tensions in Somalia 740 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:52,080 in order to ensure that its grip control and indeed the outcomes 741 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,960 in the Horn of Africa are to its advantage. 742 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,200 So again, we'll keep our eyes on that and how it pertains to 743 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,800 things that happened back in this country with the example of 744 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,480 the the terms Freeport. Now that takes us back to 745 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:08,880 Vanessa, who has an update on what TikTok have been up to. 746 00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:14,240 Yeah, well, actually it's it's a lot to do with the Israeli 747 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,680 dominance of the media and information sphere. 748 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,640 So this was a meeting that Netanyahu had in while he was in 749 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,200 New York with pro Israeli influencers. 750 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,800 So let's just have a listen to what he said. 751 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:35,480 Christian influencers, OK, you said you talked about the walk 752 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,760 right? And he said, I call it the walk 753 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:42,560 right. That's a brilliant the walk 754 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,760 right? Because these people, you know, 755 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,680 they're not any different from the walk left. 756 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,040 I mean, they're, they're insane, they're noisy, but they're 757 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,760 actually meeting on some of the things. 758 00:46:53,240 --> 00:46:57,840 And what we have to do is we have to secure that part of our 759 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,400 the base of our support in the United States that is being 760 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,080 challenged systematically. A lot of this is done with 761 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:10,000 money, money of NGOs, vast money of governments faster. 762 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,880 OK, we have to fight back. How do we fight back our 763 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,320 influencers? I think you should also talk to 764 00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,800 them if you have a chance to that, that community, they're 765 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,880 very important. And secondly, we're going to 766 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:28,000 have to use the tools of battle. You know, the the weapons change 767 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,480 over time. You can't fight today with the 768 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,000 swords. That doesn't work very well. 769 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:40,440 So quite extraordinary here and and then in the last 48 hours, 770 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:46,440 articles have been all over the media talking about Israel is 771 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:52,680 paying these influences 7000 per post, $7000 per post. 772 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,080 Just let that sink in. Netanyahu referred this week to 773 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,120 a community pushing out preferred messaging in the US 774 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,160 media and boy, are they making a princely sum. 775 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,880 So let's look at a little more little more detail on on this 776 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,520 whole complex. Bridge Partners, a firm working 777 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,520 for the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, sent a series 778 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,560 of invoices for its influencer campaign to have U.S. 779 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,720 Media Group in Germany, an international Media Group 780 00:48:19,720 --> 00:48:22,440 working for Israel. The invoices detailed a sum of 781 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:27,040 900,000 starting in June and slated to end in November for a 782 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:31,160 cohort of 14 to 18 influencers to create content. 783 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,960 So They are Told, goes on to break down the costs and to work 784 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:40,360 out that each content creator is receiving 7000 per post. 785 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,560 Then if we look in towards the end of September, there was an 786 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:49,360 article in Politico talking about a democratic mega firm. 787 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:55,160 SKDK drops Israel as its client. Now bear in mind, that's 788 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,280 democratic. That's that's the Democrat 789 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:02,200 aligned organization. So it's it's bipartisan, this 790 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,560 support of Israel. Again, I want to make this very 791 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,720 clear, because people tend to become very partisan over these 792 00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:11,880 issues and it's bipartisan, the support of Israel. 793 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:17,720 So again, in Politico, they basically say SKDK has worked 794 00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:20,720 for several pro Israel efforts over the years, but this was the 795 00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:23,520 first time it represented the Israeli government itself. 796 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:28,320 It collaborated with Havas, a European advertising and PR 797 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,040 firm, on behalf of Lapan, the Israeli government advertising 798 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:36,120 agency, with the ultimate client being the Israeli Ministry of 799 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,760 Foreign Affairs. Now another article appeared at 800 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,720 the same time in an in an independent media outlet called 801 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:48,760 rather interesting, the Sludge. And they talk about SDK 802 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,360 Knickerbocker. That was its former name. 803 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,200 I did check that. That's that's not parody, it's 804 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,440 now just simply called SKDKA. Top Democrat Party aligned 805 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,000 public relations firm had agreed to run a bot paste programme to 806 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,160 amplify pro Israel narratives on Instagram, Tiktok, LinkedIn, 807 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,880 YouTube and other platforms, according to a filing under the 808 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,120 Foreign Agents Registration Act submitted on August the 29th. 809 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,160 The contract, which was signed on April the 28th 2025, 810 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:23,000 describes a strategy to flood the zone with contact promoting 811 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,080 the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs pro Israel messages 812 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,320 using automated tools to increase the reach and 813 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:33,800 visibility of specific pro. So this is an entire industrial 814 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:38,480 complex working to whitewash the genocide in Palestine and to 815 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:43,440 push forward pro Israeli narratives across all social 816 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,320 media platforms. And then if we also look, they 817 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,160 go on to say that who else receives these messages? 818 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:59,080 So the contract for SDSKDK was worth 600,000 and it's coaching 819 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,040 Israeli civil society spokespeople for on camera 820 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,400 appearances, testing the effectiveness of social media 821 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,800 influences and arranging tailored outreach to journalists 822 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:15,320 at outlets including BBCCNN, Fox, Associated Press to secure 823 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:16,760 favourable coverage. Exactly. 824 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:21,200 Of course what we saw in Syria with the media complex that was 825 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,080 created to provide witnesses and testimonials to the likes of the 826 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,880 BBC and CNN to run anti government narratives inside 827 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,200 Syria. Now this com, this following 828 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,200 article came from back in March and this is where it gets 829 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,920 interesting. So Facebook paid a GOP firm to 830 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,120 malign Tiktok. So why has Israel been able to 831 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,520 take over Tiktok? Because of course, Tiktok has 832 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:52,640 been much maligned generally as being a Chinese influencer, 833 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,040 which in my opinion has effectively enabled Israel to 834 00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:00,120 step into the bridge and take control of TikTok itself. 835 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,560 And then, but this is also interesting. 836 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:08,600 So according to Sludge, according to the filing, SK D's 837 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,480 work for Israel, overseen by its parent company Stagwell Global, 838 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:16,640 is being done as a subcontractor for the French public relations 839 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,960 firm Havas. Stagwell, founded by long time 840 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:24,400 Likud Ali Mach pen, also has a Republican Party aligned 841 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,640 affiliate called Targeted Victory that is working as a 842 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,840 subcontractor for Havas on Pro Israel communications. 843 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:36,840 And it's targeted Victory that was basically demonizing TikTok 844 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:41,680 on behalf of Israel to enable the buy out of TikTok. 845 00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:46,880 So as I said this, this is a bipartisan Republican, Democrat 846 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:52,000 policy to support Israel and enable Israel to infiltrate all 847 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,600 social media platforms, particularly, of course, in the 848 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,520 US. But I would guess there's also 849 00:52:56,720 --> 00:53:00,200 similar operations ongoing in the UK. 850 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,000 And if we move on to something else that Netanyahu makes very 851 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:10,000 clear in his conversation with his pet influencers, he's not 852 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:16,080 only going to buy out TikTok, he's also targeting X and Elon 853 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,520 Musk. So let's just play this. 854 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:23,480 Most important purchase that is going on right now is class 855 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:31,360 TikTok, TikTok number one, number one, and I hope it goes 856 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,120 through because it's it can be consequential. 857 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,000 And the other one, what's the other one that's most important? 858 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,200 X? Thanks. 859 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,560 We should be extremely concerned about this because Israel is 860 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:52,480 effectively taking over every single social media platform and 861 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,480 will eventually also be taking over all the platforms that are 862 00:53:55,480 --> 00:54:01,000 used to to give a voice to independent media. 863 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,240 Yeah, very good point, well made, Vanessa. 864 00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:08,080 And of course, again, the vast majority of the public who do 865 00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,320 have access to this information and it gets pushed out have 866 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,480 absolutely no idea how it's coming to them or why. 867 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,520 So a real danger, which again, I hope we'll have time to talk 868 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,280 about in extra. Now, I'm pleased to say that 869 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,000 we're going to bring Diane back into the program because she has 870 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,040 got an update on some of the very high quality written 871 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,640 material that's gone out on the UK column website recently. 872 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,920 Diane. Yes, thanks Charles. 873 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,480 I, I just wanted to give today an update on some of the written 874 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,640 content that we've been publishing the last couple of 875 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,400 months here at UK column. As the commissioning editor for 876 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,480 written content, I want to point out especially to viewers that 877 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,720 these articles are very in depth, very well researched 878 00:54:47,720 --> 00:54:50,360 pieces of journalism. And we don't have time to go 879 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,520 into the depth that we on the news that we do in these 880 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,560 articles. And so we spend a great deal of 881 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,440 time working with authors and I'm working on editing and, and 882 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,000 presenting detailed information to people as much as possible. 883 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,040 So if you feel like you're not getting enough depth from our 884 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,880 new segments, which are still quite deep, please check out 885 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,920 some of these reading articles. And I'm just going to highlight 886 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,400 a few things that have been going out the past few months. 887 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,680 The first one that I want to show here is from Mark Anderson, 888 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,040 who's one of our presenters on Friday. 889 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,360 This came out a little over a month ago, but I think it's 890 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,480 important to look at again, the UN at 80 and other key topics 891 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,520 highlighted at Tulsa's Red Pill Expo. 892 00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,920 So this is something that happens in the States and he 893 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,320 covers this every year. So going back to look at the 894 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,360 history of the UN and, and, and how this has sort of impacted us 895 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,680 over time was of course of extreme importance to all of us. 896 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,480 The next thing that I want to highlight here is another one of 897 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,320 our frequent authors, Hugh McCarthy, who is a retired head 898 00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,400 teacher in Northern Ireland. He's doing a multiple part 899 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:54,200 series on the effects of the COVID lockdowns on children and 900 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:58,080 Part 1 has been published. Lest lest we forget they knew 901 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,400 they did it anyway and there will be more to come from Hugh 902 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,640 as we go forward. The next part is a two-part 903 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,960 series from Professor David Miller, who also is a frequent 904 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:14,040 author for you could call him. This is a very interesting and 905 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,600 and rather alarming couple of articles. 906 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,440 This first one is called How the British intelligence network of 907 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,760 astroturf Muslim civil society groups is kept Secret and 908 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,240 Deniable. And this is again part of the 909 00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:29,640 two-part series which basically looks at in both parts how the 910 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,160 government has been the business of developing as he calls it, a 911 00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:37,320 vast network of deniable front groups in the Muslim community, 912 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,640 including leaked documents that have been linked to MIT press. 913 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,520 And they show exactly how the network was set up and the 914 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,400 agreements between British intelligence agencies and the 915 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,320 basically the relationships between these organizations and 916 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,400 what the government has been doing behind the scenes using 917 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,440 these propaganda techniques. And Part 2 of that was just 918 00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,920 published a few days ago. And we also have a multiple part 919 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,880 series from Professor Gloria Moss. 920 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,160 Part 1 on post Truth was published a few weeks ago. 921 00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,320 Actually, this was earlier in the summer on ubiquity of post 922 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,200 truth and how this has infiltrated society in general. 923 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,240 And this is part of a three-part series. 924 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,240 So again, going into that that theme again of the the very deep 925 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,560 journalism reporting that our authors do. 926 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,560 Part 2 was just published a few days ago about post Truth in 927 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,160 education. And we will have Part 3 of Post 928 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,800 Truth from from Professor Moss coming out shortly. 929 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,120 Another one that I want to highlight here is from Professor 930 00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:39,080 David Miller and a new author to UK column Jill Thompson, who was 931 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,920 with N position called Scottish Sport Palestine. 932 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,880 This is a two-part series of Part 1 was published just 933 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,200 recently, this week actually, and it's called the day that 934 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,120 Celtic Football club played to raise money for land theft in 935 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:57,480 Palestine. And so there are some some very 936 00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,760 undeniable links here between Celtic and, and, and kind of 937 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,800 what's going on with all of the things around Zionism and song 938 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,200 that we have been discussing throughout the news and continue 939 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,840 to cover on UK column. And this is very well timed for 940 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,200 some things that are about to come out shortly. 941 00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,560 So we will be continuing to visit this and Part 2 will be 942 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,600 released in due course when it is appropriate. 943 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:22,720 But I also want to highlight a couple of different series of of 944 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,880 of things that we have been covering over time at UK column. 945 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,440 And these have sort of smaller sites within our websites. 946 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,160 You can look at all of the coverage that we have on these 947 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,800 topics in certain places. The first one that I want to 948 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,880 mention is for not the residential school, which 949 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,560 happens to be something that I've been working on as well as 950 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,440 Brian Garrish and others for almost a number of years now 951 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,240 actually. So this is all within a sort of 952 00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,760 the mini site on the website and this is a particular interest 953 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,280 currently because there is a child going on right now in the 954 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,240 High Court in Glasgow. The 77 year old Patricia 955 00:58:56,240 --> 00:59:00,000 Robertson is currently facing a total of 25 charges of abuse 956 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,640 which is said to have occurred at Fernethi Residential School 957 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:07,200 in Angus between 1967 and 1983. Keeping in mind of course that 958 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:11,920 Fernethi Residential School was open between 1960 and 1991. 959 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:17,760 And these allegations are part of a series of testimonies that 960 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,800 are going on right now, as I said in the High Court in 961 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,400 Glasgow. And this includes all, all types 962 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,360 of violence that we can possibly imagine, unfortunately to these 963 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,560 these women who were little girls at the time. 964 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,120 And we will continue to have ongoing coverage, deep coverage 965 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,840 of this case and the petition around their their fight for 966 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,920 justice and all of the things that the Finetti ladies have 967 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,960 been facing for, for many years. And finally, I'd like to end 968 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:47,280 with us the highlight of a series page that we have now 969 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,680 called Serious Centric Regional Analysis. 970 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,280 And I'm happy to say that actually today's the first day 971 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,360 I've ever been on the news with Vanessa Beeley. 972 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,000 And a lot of this has to do of course with her reporting in 973 00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,920 Syria. So Vanessa, I don't know if you 974 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,280 wanted to say anything about these really amazing and in 975 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,760 depth articles that you and your colleagues have been working on. 976 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,240 No, I just think if people do want, as you said, a far more 977 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:13,200 contextual in depth analysis of what is happening not only in 978 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:17,120 Syria but in the region and all the complexities explained, then 979 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:21,240 please do go to Syria centric because we'll be trying to bring 980 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,080 out something on a weekly basis there. 981 01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,680 Super Vanessa, thank you and indeed Diane, thank you very 982 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,640 much. It is a really good point to 983 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,480 make that whilst we do go into as much depth as we can in the 984 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,520 news programme, we are of course limited on time and therefore 985 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:39,400 the website is the place to go for a really detailed look at 986 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,520 many of the big issues out there. 987 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,600 Now just to round up the programme, I'm just going to 988 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,960 take us back to a theme that Sandy Adams was developing on 989 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,280 Monday, which is the sort of constant assault that farmers 990 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,360 and land owners are under. And the most least most recent 991 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,840 ash comes from Natural England who have just put out their 992 01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:01,000 Nature returns summary report. And in essence they're talking 993 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,920 about tackling the twin challenges of climate change and 994 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,440 biodiversity loss. But of course what they fail to 995 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,920 mention is that much of the so-called biodiversity loss is 996 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,480 because of the very farming practices that the government 997 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:17,080 has sponsored via subsidy. A lot of the answer has been put 998 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:21,640 forward in a report by somebody called Dan Corry in April 2025, 999 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:25,520 which is essentially A regulatory reform paper and it 1000 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,160 was described as being an independent report. 1001 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:28,680 And I think this is the point I want to make. 1002 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,520 He has just been appointed as a non executive board member at 1003 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,960 Defra and there is really nothing independent about him at 1004 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,200 all. Between the years of 2007 and 1005 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:45,880 2010, he was the he was the head of economic policy at #10 1006 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:51,080 Downing St. and therefore is not an outsider even remotely. 1007 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,800 The other point to make is that he is also the chief economist 1008 01:01:55,800 --> 01:02:00,400 at the Future Governance Forum, and that is a think tank that 1009 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:06,000 was set up in 2023 with the very idea of completely overturning 1010 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,880 the system. So it's not at all coincident 1011 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:11,840 that his regulatory reform would have net zero. 1012 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:16,560 Of course, at its core, and by omission, it's very important to 1013 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,200 point out that there are absolutely no references to 1014 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:24,360 farming being part of the way to regenerate landscape and indeed 1015 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,600 improve the environment. With the situation. 1016 01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,800 Soil gets improved, human health gets improved, and indeed it 1017 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,280 makes goodness good business sense for all. 1018 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,960 But I'm happy to say that I attended an event in Edinburgh 1019 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:39,440 on and Diane was there also. If you don't believe me, there's 1020 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,200 a picture on screen that more or less proves it. 1021 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:44,680 But I'm just going to ask Diane now to just give a couple of 1022 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,400 remarks about the success of that event and how it flies in 1023 01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:51,160 the face of what we're told by by Natural England. 1024 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,480 Yeah, thanks, Charles. It was really a. 1025 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:58,000 Great event, very well. Attended, very good comments, 1026 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,840 really good vibe. I felt like a very good energy 1027 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,920 there and it was called the Food and Health Festival we've been 1028 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,840 mentioning on the news for the past few weeks. 1029 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,880 And thank you to all of the UK column members who came out to 1030 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,720 see Charles and I away up in Edinburgh, up in the north. 1031 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,760 It was really, really useful to hear from some of the local 1032 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:19,480 farmers and natural health practitioners and other types of 1033 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,600 vendors to hear them say, you know, what they are doing 1034 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,640 actually truly protecting the land. 1035 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,640 Some in some cases working off grid, as I know you do, Charles, 1036 01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:33,080 really supporting the, the true nature of what we should be 1037 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,520 doing when we're talking about actually supporting the 1038 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:39,160 environment, providing good food and and supporting the health of 1039 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,760 the people of this country, which sometimes it seems like 1040 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,000 the government is not necessarily on side with us on 1041 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,240 that, on that issue. But it was really good to hear 1042 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,560 from all of them. I and your your talk, 1043 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,200 particularly Charles, was, I thought very interesting because 1044 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:55,120 it did help people position the individual things that these 1045 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,520 farmers are doing that they were telling us about all day in 1046 01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,640 their talks. And then for you to be able to 1047 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,800 put that in that larger context as well as someone who does it 1048 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,640 as a smallholder, Charles, I thought was really particularly 1049 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,680 useful. Lovely. 1050 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,440 Thank you very much, Diane. Yeah, it was a very positive day 1051 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:10,360 and I. Think the main thing to come. 1052 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,600 Out of it is that what was being discussed was not conceptual. 1053 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,480 This was for these were voices of experience, people who are 1054 01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,680 actually doing something and can demonstrate by scientific rigour 1055 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,320 that they are improving the quality of soil, the quality of 1056 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,120 their livestock and all the rest of it. 1057 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,320 So it's very positive and I hope would serve as an inspiration to 1058 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:31,520 you to get involved in, you know, taking control of your, of 1059 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,000 your own food supply. And I'm sorry we've run a little 1060 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,160 bit over, but that does bring us to the end of the programme. 1061 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,720 So Vanessa and Diane, thank you very much indeed for joining me. 1062 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,360 Please remember my words about joining us for the live stream 1063 01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,880 in York and indeed all the benefits that are associated 1064 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,720 with that. Go to the shop on the website to 1065 01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,480 look at further details. And indeed, Please remember the 1066 01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,560 discussion that I'll be having with Brian Gerrish at 1:00 1067 01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,760 tomorrow afternoon on the subject of conscription and 1068 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:00,520 recruitment into the armed forces. 1069 01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,880 And that's it from us today, but please join us again at 1:00 on 1070 01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,040 Friday. Goodbye.