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Good afternoon. 
It's Wednesday the 26th of 

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November, just after 1:00. 
Welcome to UK column NEWS. 

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I'm your host Mike Robinson. 
Joining me via live link are 

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Charles Mallett and Vanessa 
Bailey. 

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Later in the program, we're 
going to be covering the fact 

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that we're going to war unless 
it's stopped. 

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We'll have news from Syria and 
UAE, and we'll have the latest 

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on digital identity and also the
Mhra's response to the recent 

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CDC announcement on vaccines. 
But we'll begin today with the 

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budget and the security lockdown
apparently that's surrounding 

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that. 
Charles. 

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Yeah. 
Good afternoon, Mike. 

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Good afternoon, all. 
Yes, an evolving situation I 

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think would be the way to put 
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And there are obviously a lot of
things that are going to fall 

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out of today's budget. 
A lot are already known. 

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But the issue that we're going 
to concentrate on is the 

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inheritance tax issue and 
farmers. 

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Now I'd like to point out that 
the BBC, who've been running 

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wall to wall coverage of this 
issue for some time today have 

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not mentioned farmers at all. 
No great surprise there, but it 

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does make it look like there is 
a political agenda at play in 

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more ways than one. 
I just to recap on the issue at 

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hand, in last year's budget it 
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inheritance tax threshold would 
be amended in order that it 

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would capture in effect a vast 
number of land owners and 

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business owners who were 
previously unaffected and part 

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of the problem. 
This goes back to to the the 

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initial change in 1992. 
The part of the problem is the 

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lack of warning given and that 
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2026, giving people very little 
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The issues pertaining to 
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in some way avoid it now. 
Farmers have been in discussion 

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with the Metropolitan Police 
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about planning protests to 
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today and yesterday evening on 
X, the Met Police put out a 

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tweet suggesting that the 
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change. 
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further, but they're saying that
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they've banned farmers 
protesting tomorrow and that 

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that's not correct. 
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it upon themselves to move the 
goal posts, and they've put up a

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policing operation update or a 
statement in which they say that

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conditions have been put in 
place to prevent protesters from

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bringing vehicles, including 
tractors or other agricultural 

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vehicles, to the protest. 
Now there are several issues 

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that run alongside this, not 
least the fact that farmers did 

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congregate in Westminster a year
ago without incident, or 

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certainly without any 
significant incident. 

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Just as an aside, it is 
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that neither the congestion 
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are applicable to tractors or 
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specialist vehicles. 
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hour change and indeed there's 
no from police a Section 14. 

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It's Public Order Act 1986 being
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Now the police are saying that 
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the serious disruption they may 
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including businesses, emergency 
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about their day. 
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discrepancy or at odds with what
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the last year since Rachel 
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last year. 
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imagine, there is a certain 
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coming out of the event now as 
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happening, whether there are 
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seem to be the case. 
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Lament, MP for Berwickshire, 
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ground and he put this short 
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We have hundreds, if not 
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come to Westminster to protest 
against Labour's family farm tax

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and shockingly, the police, the 
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these farmers from making their 
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Whitehall is completely shut 
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All these tractors are piling up
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These farmers want to have their
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They want to persuade the Labour
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a time when there's all sorts of
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across London each week. 
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Metropolitan Police and the 
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decision. 
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voices of farmers and they need 
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We could stand with our farmers 
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tax reversed. 
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there, really all that that 
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that this change was so last 
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So farmers have been committed 
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other supporters either with or 
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creating is, is one of its own 
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suggesting that people can only 
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Terrace, just opposite Downing 
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And of course what they will 
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exactly the problem that they 
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preventing tractors, because of 
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London anyway. 
Where are they actually going to

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go? 
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strongly towards the operational
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seriously challenged, and that 
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protest itself. 
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just last month the House of 
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on police powers, which we'll 
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And in particular this deals 
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control of this sort of event, 
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Police Crime and Sentencing 
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Order Act 2023. 
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earlier, the the Public Order 
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And in a in effect, it's as 
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taken the decision that there 
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public disorder, damage to 
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life. 
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community. 
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slightly to the Crime and 
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we've talked about some some 
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that are coming concerning 
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broadening all the time. 
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recognition, live facial 
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And of course this bill plans to
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concealing identity and the 
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very relevant to today. 
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persists, so indeed might the 
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it's being carried out on more 
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Now the farmer's position in 
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are not met today, then they can
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government by turning off the 
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the food supply. 
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No food. 
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Kingdom is probably around 50% 
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self-sufficiency. 
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that the UK and the EU have 
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we'll just look at now. 
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sort of greasing the skids with 
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forth between the UK and the EU.
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has happened in the United 
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agreement is to reduce the 
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Economic Prosperity Deal signed 
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police has been challenged, it's
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between the outcry there was 
when Maccabee Tel Aviv fans were

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Absolute outcry across not just 
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government. 
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of British society is having its
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compromised. 
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come from either the mainstream 
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to suggest that there's an issue
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Now to find out more about the 
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how the public can take direct 
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in order to make those vital 
economic connections, I point 

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you towards the UK Column 
website, UK Farming fighting for

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its Future. 
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this in the show notes and 
indeed to go to the farming 

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section on the UK Column website
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information about all the 
various issues that beset 

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farmers and indeed will 
Coleshill is on the ground and 

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we hope to be able to show a 
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Thank you, Charles. 
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bit that I find most hilarious 
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creates this offence of 
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mind the requirement to do 
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years ago. 
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And, and in fact, not just that,
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1998 has exactly the same 
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So it is, it's absolutely absurd
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But I mean, of course, you're, 
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that gets repealed or or sort of
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OK, well look at the beginning 
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I suggested that we are going to
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why I'm saying that now. 
So here we have the Royal United

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Services Institute. 
They've just held their Long War

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Conference 2025 yesterday. 
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team is launching A flagship 
programme, Long War, they say, 

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exploring how the UK and its 
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beyond the first battle. 
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conflict on the horizon, this 
initiative asks how forces could

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be mobilized, reconstituted and 
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industrial scale war. 
So Charles, Vanessa, we'll get 

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comments from you. 
Charles, first of all, I mean, 

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we're now talking about a 
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This is language, you know, 
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World wars here. 
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this as if it's an 
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They are absolutely. 
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way that the language has been 
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decade if not more. 
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British armed forces are 
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the, the drop off of the 
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particularly in Iraq and 
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one side of it the sort of 
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what exactly the jobs will be in
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But of course the other side of 
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industry. 
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into the Strategic Defence 
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this idea that Russia presents, 
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and therefore we need to 
mobilise, but via spending an 

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enormous amount of money on 
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take on the mantle of this 
eternal war. 

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Well, we'll talk more about that
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Vanessa, just before I move on, 
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on on that point? 
No, I just, I find the language 

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extremely disturbing and and 
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we've throttled back or in the 
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So how on earth do they believe 
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run an industrial scale war? 
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my head. 
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not against other countries, but
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Well, let's see if we can answer
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So if we just pop that back on 
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Keynote speakers included 
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until his retirement in April 
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But he's much better known to UK
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best buddy of Chris Donnelly, 
former NATO advisor who set up 

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and ran the Integrity Initiative
anti Russia propaganda machine 

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on behalf of the Foreign Office.
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MP Luke Pollard. 
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what Luke Pollard had to say 
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So here he is. 
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security challenges that we 
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be impatient and people to be 
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ways of working into 
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Maybe he just wants some banjo 
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speaking about the development, 
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military capability. 
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gets gets us to a new 
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be ready to defeat it because 
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create deterrence. 
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to deliver peace. 
So this is the peace through the

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peace through strength mantra 
once again. 

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Now, you know, you might ask, 
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people what happened to the 
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international relations? 
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acting for the benefit of the 
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organized peace. 
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Blair dealt with that. 
So that doesn't apply anymore. 

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It's outdated, he went on to 
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partnership, there was no UK 
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Contact Group, no historic 
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Germany, no lighthouse projects 
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to that trading house agreement,
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House Treaty with France. 
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fighting readiness, we need a 
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And so that's really what 
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But what you're saying on screen
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which are the, the various deals
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Britain, Germany, France and 
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society approach. 
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reinforce what Pollard was 
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First Sea Lord General Sir Gwen 
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I genuinely believe war is a 
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I really hope it doesn't come. 
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of us for a bunch of reasons. 
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be ready. 
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Quite incredible language. 
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earlier before the news program,
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planning for, if they're, if 
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protracted industrial skill war.
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But the question is, are we 
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strategic direction? 
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Pollard and his colleagues who 
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perhaps I would, I would argue. 
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what we're dealing with here 
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held the concept development and
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conference. 
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and now the contraction of the 
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2025. 
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previously provided an 
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leaders to gain hands on 
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techniques and it's use in NATO.
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have successfully garnered 
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and use of wargaming in NATO. 
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practitioners of war gaming so 
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and learn from one another, 
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NATO. 
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them playing with their toys 
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This week the War Gaming 
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takes place here in Hamburg at 
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be immersing themselves in 21 
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At the tactical. 
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So this is Grand Ascent. 
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North Atlantic Council makes 
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If you play Ascent over time you
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more quickly and with greater 
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This is a game that was created 
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to support the NET headquarters.
stability across the world. 

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Now, I appreciate that people at
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Vanessa wedding themselves as 
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this is the client show that 
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But it's serious on one hand, 
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fun playing Risk or something 
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wanting to steal billions of 
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taxpayers money to to fund the 
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industrial complex with a view 
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China. 
I think there is a very serious 

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side to it. 
I'm not quite sure how that 

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naval chap kept a straight face 
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commentary there. 
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point is that actually this, you
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war gaming of of asking the what
if question is, is a very 

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important one. 
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stages of planning in a military
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That that is not new. 
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infantilise it by playing actual
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deliberate step to remove the in
association with the lives that 

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will be lost as a result of 
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In effect, it's down to the roll
of a dice or something, you 

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know, completely banal. 
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there is absolutely a very 
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the sweeping away of the 
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And, and that seems to shine 
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incorporation of civilians in 
order to make sure the message 

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transmits beyond, you know, the 
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environment. 
Yes, indeed. 

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Macron has announced their 
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otherwise known as National 
Service, in preparation for the 

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announcement. 
The French Army Chief of staff, 

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General Fabian Mandel said this 
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We have the know how and we have
the economic and demographic 

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strength to dissuade the regime 
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I try not to laugh because this 
is where it gets serious because

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he went on to say what we're 
lacking and this is where you 

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and he was speaking to mayors in
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This is where you have a role to
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The spirit which accepts that we
will have to suffer if we're to 

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protect what we are. 
If our country waivers because 

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it's not ready to lose it's 
children or suffer economically 

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because the priority has to be 
military production, then we are

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indeed at risk. 
You must speak of this in your 

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towns and villages. 
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yes, people must speak about 
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villages. 
There must be a blanket refusal 

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to waste life on this insanity. 
And clearly there is a blanket 

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refusal because to, to a certain
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Macron's announcement stated 
that the new framework was meant

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to address what he called the 
desire for service amongst the 

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youth. 
But you know, the the longer we 

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go on, the more absolute 
insanity comes out of the mouths

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of these people. 
Yeah, and absolutely. 

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And of course, when they say we 
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they're not talking about 
themselves and their own 

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families. 
They're talking about the 

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conscripts and and the poor 
military that are going to be 

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poured out as cannon fodder as, 
of course they have been in 

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Ukraine. 
Ukraine has set the example for 

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this. 
Let's move on then to the 

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Ministry of Defence. 
And of course they've been 

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travelling right the way around 
the world over the last little 

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while and spending lots of money
on that. 

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What have they been up to? 
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afternoon everyone. 
I mean, The thing is it's quite 

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extraordinary to watch them 
playing their games of 

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battleship and so on. 
And as Charles said it, it's 

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sort of distance and distances 
them just as we're seeing of 

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course, that war anyway is 
evolving into push button mass 

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murder rather than actual people
on the ground that are going to 

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suffer the consequences. 
But this was basically an 

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article printed at Action 
Against Armed Violence. 

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The UK MOD spent 110 million on 
travel in 170 countries in just 

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one year, including to states 
beset by coups and repressive 

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regimes. 
Of course we won't talk about 

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who those repressive regimes are
and, and in relation to who and 

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also who's behind the various 
coups. 

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But I, I was fascinated to see 
the countries that have actually

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been visited, bearing in mind 
we're supposedly heading for 

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this industrial scale war. 
And yet the MOD seems to have 

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forgotten that we're no longer 
an empire. 

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They're visiting the vestiges of
the empire and as I said, 

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spending taxpayers money to do 
so. 

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So let's have a look at the 15 
destinations. 

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They do include the US, 
Australia, Kenya and Germany, 

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but also Oman, Canada, Cyprus, 
Brunei, Nepal, Bahrain, Japan, 

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Gibraltar, Norway, Saudi Arabia,
Poland and Singapore. 

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And you can freeze frame and 
look at the actual cost of those

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visits. 
But then what is interesting of 

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course, guess what also happened
is the MOD officials. 

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Something like 12 trips were 
made during the intensified 

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genocide against Palestinians in
Gaza. 299,000 lbs. 

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Sorry, it's a little bit 
difficult to read now. 

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It's gone small. 
We spent basically in travelling

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to Israel, working on 
intelligence and defence 

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corporation since the beginning 
of the Gaza genocide. 

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The cost of these journeys was 
not among the highest, but their

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timing is striking of course, 
because they were ongoing during

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a genocide against the 
Palestinian people. 

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That, of course, is still 
running even now despite the 

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Trump peace scam that included 
623 surveillance flights, which 

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I'll talk about a little bit 
later in this section, providing

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intelligence to Israel that is 
believed to have enabled the 

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targeting of Palestinians inside
Gaza. 

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And as I mentioned, 12 trips 
were carried out by MOD 

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officials during the actual 
ongoing genocide. 

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Other countries visited. 
And I'd like to get Charles's 

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and and Mike's comments at the 
end of this section if we have 

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time. 
So including China, Iran and 

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Russia are up there. 
So I, I couldn't actually find 

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details on the Russia and the 
Iran troops, but China I did 

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manage to Afghanistan, 
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Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, 
Colombia, Democratic Republic of

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Congo, Egypt, Ethiopia, Somalia,
South Sudan. 

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Of course, that is undergoing 
also a genocide with British 

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weapons by the Rapid Support 
Forces against civilians in 

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Darfur, Sri Lanka, Turkmenistan 
and Uzbekistan, Russian speaking

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areas of course. 
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Spectator in April 2025. 
This year, why did the British 

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defence chief visit China? 
An interesting question. 

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So Admiral Tony Radican, who 
went to Beijing, he gave a 

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speech to students of the 
People's Liberation Army at the 

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National Defence University in 
Beijing. 

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And as the Spectator says, take 
a moment to think about that. 

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He also met with General Liu 
Jian Li, Chief of Staff of the 

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Joint Staff of the Central 
Military Commission, the 

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operational headquarters of the 
PLA. 

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The Ministry of National Defence
reported that the two sides 

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conducted in depth exchanges on 
China, UK relations and military

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into military relations, 
international and regional 

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situations and issues of common 
concern and had communications 

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on strengthening exchanges and 
and cooperation between the two 

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militaries. 
Which is again quite interesting

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bearing in mind that we're 
supposed to be fearing Chinese 

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surveillance and electric 
vehicles as Charles reported 

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last week. 
And then to finish off here, 

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part of the the in relation to 
the MOD heading to Israel on 12 

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trips during the genocide. 
The Foreign Office also flouted 

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its own rules designed to stop 
MOD spy plane intelligence 

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actually harming Palestinian 
civilians. 

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And Ian Overton at Action 
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out that there have been no HR, 
human rights assessments, 

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ministerial approvals or 
internal guidance regarding the 

460
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,600
intelligence sharing with 
Israel. 

461
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:19,160
And basically when there is a 
sharing of intelligence between 

462
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,960
the UK and another country, it 
should trigger the Overseas 

463
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,960
Security and Justice Assistance 
Framework, which has not 

464
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,200
apparently been triggered 
according to FOIS that AOA VA 

465
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,200
have put into the government. 
Mike, you'll be glad to know 

466
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,680
that they have received no 
response until very recently 

467
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,120
when they were told that that 
information is not available. 

468
00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:45,040
So of course the government has 
no accountability, The Ministry 

469
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,720
of Defence has 0 accountability 
for actually participating in 

470
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,880
the genocide in Gaza. 
But I, I, I would love your 

471
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,080
comments on the fact that we 
appear to be visiting the 

472
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,000
countries that we're claiming 
are about to murder people in 

473
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:06,080
the streets of our cities, which
are Iran, Russia and China. 

474
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,840
Yeah. 
Well, before I comment on it, 

475
00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:12,640
I'd like to hear Charles 
thoughts on this. 

476
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,920
Because you know what? 
What acts are the normal 

477
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,640
activities Ministry of Defence 
are pursuing in these types of 

478
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,200
trips? 
It's a very good question. 

479
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,640
I mean, the, the sort of broader
topic of defence engagement is, 

480
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,400
is kind of ongoing. 
And also don't don't forget that

481
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,000
the one Ave. at least that would
account for this to a certain 

482
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,680
extent, is the fact that every 
British High Commission or 

483
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,240
indeed British Embassy would 
have a defence section in it. 

484
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,000
And therefore that section would
be liaising with the host nation

485
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,880
armed forces. 
And that they, they would 

486
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,640
therefore be acting as a, as a 
conduit of personnel to go to 

487
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,800
and fro. 
That doesn't explain the 

488
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,040
inconsistencies with regard to 
specifically Russia, China, 

489
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,640
Iran, and also Israel. 
And, and in fact, as a, it's not

490
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,000
exactly an aside, but I think 
directly relevant. 

491
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,760
I happen to know, because I 
spoke to the person in question,

492
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,320
that astonishingly, even this 
summer a defence attache was 

493
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,520
appointed to Tel Aviv, a British
defence attache. 

494
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,720
That appointment was not 
actually, in the end, taken up, 

495
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,480
but it is. 
It is quite staggering to think 

496
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,600
that even in the summer of 2025,
exactly to Vanessa's point about

497
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,560
what had happened, that 
appointment was still made. 

498
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,840
I mean, how much of this type of
travel is, is there to try to 

499
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,960
identify, particularly in 
countries that that Britain 

500
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,240
would like to see regime change 
would be there to identify, as 

501
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,080
we've talked about with BBC 
media action in Syria, for 

502
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,960
example, identify people that 
are opposing forces and, and, 

503
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,120
and help develop relations with 
those people? 

504
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,520
Yes, I'm not sure specifically 
that that kind of issue would be

505
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,720
dealt would be entrusted with to
to military personnel. 

506
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,920
But of course that in in so far 
as obscuring the truth goes, 

507
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,600
let's say you know, travel 
that's made by members of the 

508
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,960
intelligence services, which 
would be in fact shadowed by 

509
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,560
military personnel who would no 
doubt be accompanying then that 

510
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,120
would that that I think would 
explain some of the 

511
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,360
destinations. 
I mean, otherwise there are, you

512
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,000
know, very many engagements with
a, you know, we've talked about 

513
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,040
already the, the apparent idea 
of the defence dividend. 

514
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,840
Of course, part of the big sales
pushes for European nations and 

515
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,440
indeed the British start 
spending more and more and more 

516
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,200
on defence. 
But actually a huge part of it 

517
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,240
is what we can flog to other 
countries, which is why this 

518
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,040
idea of defence engagement is so
important, is what are we going 

519
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,040
to be able to sell, albeit as 
you say, predicated on the 

520
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,760
threat of such and such a thing 
happening. 

521
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,960
Yes, indeed. 
Well anyway, let's let's come to

522
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,480
you then and continue this 
theme. 

523
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,080
And I think we're going to begin
with defence intelligence, if 

524
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:02,040
that's not an oxymoron. 
Well, it can be sometimes, and I

525
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,920
think this is a very interesting
case of sort of pot and cattle. 

526
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,160
This was put out by the Ministry
of Defence yesterday and begins 

527
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,240
with the usual refrain of 
referring to Russia's illegal 

528
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,800
full scale invasion of Ukraine. 
But the eye-catching bit was at 

529
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:24,360
the bottom of the update, which 
says since launching the illegal

530
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,600
full scale invasion of Ukraine 
in 2022, the Russian state has 

531
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:32,440
increasingly sought to control, 
censor and constrict its 

532
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,880
domestic information 
environment. 

533
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,280
And that struck me as being 
outstandingly hypocritical. 

534
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,120
The most obvious point of 
reference I would think is to 

535
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:48,440
look at Ofcom from 2022 and the 
action that they took against 

536
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,840
the Russia Today Network. 
And the way they put it was that

537
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,880
RT is no longer broadcasting in 
the UK. 

538
00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,840
On the 18th of March 2022, Ofcom
revoked RTS broadcast license on

539
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,840
the basis that we did not 
consider RTS license fit and 

540
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:09,080
proper to hold it. 
Sorry, licensee ANOTV Novosti 

541
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,920
fit and proper to hold it it. 
Now the critical part in a way, 

542
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,080
as we've just been alluding to, 
to any war and indeed the build 

543
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:21,040
up to it is the information that
passes to and fro. 

544
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,320
And just to go further on this, 
there's a press release put out 

545
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,840
by the Ministry of Defence just 
today, I think it was saying 

546
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,320
that the UK has smashed a 
Russian cybercrime network 

547
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,360
responsible for attacks on UK 
businesses, effectively boasting

548
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,520
about imposing sanctions on 
criminals. 

549
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,000
And if the Russian state 
architecture doesn't care about 

550
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,760
sanctions, I'm not sure I can 
really see that that Russian 

551
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,280
cyber criminals will pay much 
heed to it. 

552
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,560
But nonetheless, the, the, the 
MOD persists in saying that the 

553
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,200
Foreign Secretary has announced 
a crackdown on on illicit cyber 

554
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,600
activity globally as cyber 
attacks cost the UK economy 14.7

555
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,120
billion. 
Well, we'll return to that I 

556
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,320
think later in the programme. 
The Ministry of Defence carry 

557
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,240
on. 
And again on this point of 

558
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,720
information and indeed this 
threat and, and the the idea of 

559
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,040
there being a, a long war, of 
course posting. 

560
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,280
I know Mike has spoken about 
this in the past, but this, you 

561
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,520
know, the sort of Russian threat
in the North Atlantic. 

562
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,280
Now, the reason I'm referring to
all of this is because it does 

563
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,880
fit in with what Soldier 
Magazine has been writing about 

564
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,640
this month, and that is a piece 
entitled Taking Aim at Unknown 

565
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,080
Drones. 
Now there's been some background

566
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,440
to this, but effectively the 
article is suggesting that 

567
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,560
through a new armed forces bill,
military personnel are going to 

568
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:45,760
be given powers to relate to the
threat of drone strikes within 

569
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,680
the UK. 
They say the intrude the 

570
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,680
intruders can only be shot down 
in so-called extreme 

571
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,160
circumstances such as where 
there is an obvious threat to 

572
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,560
life and in some other defined 
situations under current law. 

573
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,320
So it's all rather vague. 
It's been taken up by Unmanned 

574
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:08,080
Airspace Trade publication which
says that John Healy's announced

575
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,280
the new counter drone 
legislation and support for 

576
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,800
allies. 
But the point of this is that 

577
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,960
the legislation that's being 
proposed in the as yet unseen 

578
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,960
Armed Forces Bill only relates 
to the apparent threat to the 

579
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,560
military and not to civilians. 
So whilst we're on the one hand 

580
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,639
supposed to engender a whole of 
society approach to war, not 

581
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:32,159
apparently if there's a civilian
threat or at least a threat to 

582
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:36,520
civilians from drones seems to 
be extremely inconsistent. 

583
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,199
And of course the other point 
which I have made several times 

584
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:44,000
before is to refer to the this 
idea of how on earth is 1 

585
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,880
supposed to know what is a 
threat and what is not. 

586
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,719
We look at Darlington in the 
north of England, which has been

587
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,600
selected by Amazon as the 
location for their drone fleet 

588
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,520
for Prime Air drone delivery. 
And of course, the Civil 

589
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,480
Aviation Authority being 
completely inconsistent there on

590
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,640
what may or may not be done with
regard to drones, depending on 

591
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,760
whether you're an individual or 
a gigantic corporation. 

592
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,280
And let's just go back to 
Soldier Magazine to point out 

593
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,360
that notwithstanding all the 
activity surrounding Palestine 

594
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,160
action at the moment and what's 
going through the courts, Elbit 

595
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,080
Systems is still advertising in 
Soldier Magazine. 

596
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,040
And of course, you can see 
unmanned aerial vehicles on the 

597
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,360
bottom right if you are watching
the screen. 

598
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,800
And I just wind up by referring 
back to what Mike was speaking 

599
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,240
about last week, which was the 
seminar held by the IDF, which 

600
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:35,880
there was confusion as to 
whether British personnel had 

601
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,440
attended or not. 
Now I've been in touch with the 

602
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,560
IDF press office to try and 
ascertain whether or not they 

603
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,440
think that there were any Brits 
there. 

604
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:48,000
And they sent me through a 
packet of photographs which of 

605
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,080
course I've scanned. 
I haven't seen any British 

606
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,720
looking combats. 
But if we just put that image 

607
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:55,400
back on screen now what you will
see, and indeed, it's it's very 

608
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,320
public, but just I think worth 
noting that the Americans were 

609
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,120
represented in numbers at this 
seminar specifically based on 

610
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,080
what they're describing as 
lessons from the war. 

611
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,720
And so just with that in mind, 
I'll just finish with a quote 

612
00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:12,360
that I was sent from the 
commander ground forces, Major 

613
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,960
General Nadav Lotan, who says I 
was moved to see all of you come

614
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,320
to learn from the IDF. 
This seminar allowed us not only

615
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,080
to present what we have learned,
but also to learn from you. 

616
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:31,680
Now, the reason I to say that is
not just to consider that in its

617
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,400
own right and the attendance of 
the Americans and many other 

618
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,200
nations who the United Kingdom 
is supposedly allied with, but 

619
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,880
also to ask the question, where 
does that leave the UK? 

620
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,800
If, in effect, they didn't 
acknowledge the invitation, they

621
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,480
didn't attend, but they are of 
course still aligned with all of

622
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:52,240
the other nations that did go, 
but apparently not actually part

623
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:55,600
of the process itself. 
Yes, thank you, Charles. 

624
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,840
Thank you for that. 
OK, let's move on. 

625
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,280
If you like what the UK column 
does, we do need your ongoing 

626
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,360
financial support. 
If you can possibly support us 

627
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,200
financially, please do have a 
look on the front page of the UK

628
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,480
column website. 
You'll find a link that explains

629
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,200
what you can do to help that. 
But very much, very appreciated.

630
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,360
Now just to let you know that 
although the weekly banter went 

631
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,480
out yesterday and that's not on 
the UK column website, if the in

632
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,920
fact we can't bring a germ 
warfare tonight because of 

633
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,920
technical issues, germs having 
problems in South Africa. 

634
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,000
So there'll be no germ tonight. 
But do if you haven't seen the 

635
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,640
weekly banter from last night, 
please do have a look at that. 

636
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:38,800
Carlsad tonight is going to be 
talking to Arnold Bertrand about

637
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,880
Europe's strategic failures. 
And tomorrow at 1:00 PM, Sandy 

638
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:50,560
Adams is speaking about escaping
the matrix and I guess not 

639
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,640
supporting the British 
government in its war plans at 

640
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,720
the moment. 
So join us at 1:00 PM for that. 

641
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,880
Quick reminder that on Saturday 
this week at Beeches Green in 

642
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,160
Stroud, Ben Rubin and Sandy 
Adams will be speaking alongside

643
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,520
Doctor Mike Eden. 
Details on screen also in the 

644
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,640
show notes. 
So do get along to that if you 

645
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,800
possibly can. 
It's cash on the door only, 

646
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,800
however, So, so please, please 
do go if you if you're in the 

647
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,440
area. 
Now let's move on because the 

648
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,880
BBC and others are reporting the
existence of an internal 

649
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,120
government briefing produced by 
the Ministry of Justice. 

650
00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:34,200
So here's the article here. 
Justice Secretary wants jury 

651
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,960
trials scrapped except in most 
serious cases. 

652
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,240
So this briefing note has 
apparently gone to all other 

653
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:43,160
Whitehall departments. 
And the BBC reports that it 

654
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,720
confirms plans to create a new 
tier of jury less courts in 

655
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:49,160
England and Wales. 
And they say that the document 

656
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,680
proposes only guaranteeing 
juries for defendants facing 

657
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,040
rape, murder, manslaughter or 
other cases passing a public 

658
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,120
interest test. 
Now the BBC says that David 

659
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,520
Lammy wants to ask Parliament to
end jury trials for defendants 

660
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,640
who would be jailed for up to 
five years and that these 

661
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,960
proposals are an attempt to end 
unprecedented delays and 

662
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,800
backlogs in the courts and do 
not apply to Northern Ireland or

663
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,000
Scotland. 
Well, that's because Northern 

664
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,680
Ireland already has no jury 
trials because of historic 

665
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,640
issues with the so-called 
Troubles. 

666
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,360
So, but nonetheless, here what 
we're saying is problem, 

667
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,760
reaction, solution, because this
problem was created by 

668
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,040
successive governments and the 
idea of removing juries has been

669
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,400
one that's been proposed by 
successive governments. 

670
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:35,320
So if you want shorter waiting 
lists for trials and perhaps 

671
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,680
reduce the number of the people 
in the country or build 

672
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,880
infrastructure necessary to 
support the increased 

673
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,720
population. 
But this is not about the 

674
00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:46,680
inefficiencies, the alleged 
inefficiencies in the process or

675
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,680
with juries. 
Juries have been a target 

676
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,360
because of their power to 
overturn bad law. 

677
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,560
And we're seeing so much bad law
being created by the British 

678
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,280
regime. 
I suspect that they see juries 

679
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,880
as a major threat. 
But in the longer term, another 

680
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,320
potential reason is that in the 
not too distant future we'll see

681
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,600
an increase in the use of AI in 
the so-called justice system. 

682
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,360
We need to make room for that. 
And to be clear, this is purely 

683
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,360
academic at the moment. 
There's a clear drive to use AI 

684
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,600
for scheduling and a host of 
admin tasks like document 

685
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,680
processing. 
But the idea of AI making 

686
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,240
judicial decisions is being 
discussed. 

687
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,680
But as usual. 
I suspect we're at the top of a 

688
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,320
slippery slope. 
Charles, what are your thoughts 

689
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:37,000
on this? 
Well, I think it would be an 

690
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,440
absolute disaster in every 
respect, but the problem is that

691
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,600
everybody seems very willing to 
go for it, albeit a totally 

692
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,680
untried, untested mechanism. 
It's already being used by the 

693
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,280
police, it's already being used 
by the prison service, the 

694
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,120
probation service and the 
government been writing about 

695
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,440
using it in In Justice. 
And indeed, one has heard 

696
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,040
reports from judges themselves 
saying that they've already used

697
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,800
AI in in helping them with their
summing up. 

698
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,920
So the, you know, it is a huge 
danger, not just because it 

699
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,000
pushes us away from journalist 
trials, which is of course 

700
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,640
terrifically significant, but 
also because there seems to be a

701
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:17,160
complete misunderstanding or or 
at least a total lack of 

702
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,560
information or knowledge about 
the the biases that are inherent

703
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,120
within AI. 
So I mean, it's a huge number of

704
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,480
problems associated with going 
down this this route, but this 

705
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,480
is exactly what is being pushed 
by Leveson with his, you know, 

706
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,920
review of earlier in the year 
and all the rest of it. 

707
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,200
But like everything else that's 
explained very well, you know, 

708
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,440
we're just short of time. 
It's the most convenient thing 

709
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,120
to do. 
And, you know, we should not 

710
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,440
understate the importance of 
juries and jury nullification 

711
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,640
and the idea that a jury can 
overturn bad law. 

712
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,960
This is this is something that 
juries are almost never told 

713
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:56,040
about, but it is a key role. 
It is, it's absolutely a key 

714
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,920
role. 
I mean, you know, with that we 

715
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,320
have to be mindful of the fact 
that it absolutely works both 

716
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,000
ways in, in effect, in that 
sometimes we will look at the 

717
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,160
way in which a jury has taken 
that action and think that that 

718
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,280
is a, a sort of a right and 
proper outcome. 

719
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,920
And sometimes possibly not. 
And there have been a very a 

720
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,600
number of high profile incidents
relating to sort of climate and 

721
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,640
slavery associated issues where 
the jury did exactly exercise 

722
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,000
that power. 
And of course there was outcry 

723
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,680
afterwards because it was, you 
know, deemed by many people that

724
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,320
that was that was the wrong 
outcome. 

725
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,920
But nonetheless, giving the jury
the chance to deliberate it 

726
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,240
should should be absolutely 
sacrosanct. 

727
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,440
Yes, OK. 
Thank you for that. 

728
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,000
Let's move to the Middle East 
again then. 

729
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,800
And Vanessa, Syria and protests 
beginning on the streets. 

730
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,000
Are we starting to see 2011 
again? 

731
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,560
No, I think we're starting to 
see a push back against the 

732
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:57,880
atrocities committed by the West
collective W imposed Takfiri 

733
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,920
regime. 
And I just wanted to remind 

734
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,200
everyone because we've basically
been predicting these protests 

735
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,960
for some time in the articles 
that are being published at 

736
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:11,000
Syria Centric, which is the 
section not only on Syria, but 

737
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,880
regional analysis going as far 
as the Sudan with a recent 

738
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,280
article by Marwa Osman. 
And we are basically trying to 

739
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,560
bring on board authors from the 
region. 

740
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,640
And I did just want to point out
because someone mentioned I 

741
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,560
think on the YouTube channel 
that all the articles appear to 

742
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,840
be written by me. 
They are written by me, but in 

743
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,840
collaboration with Syria and 
still inside Syria, whose names 

744
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,880
obviously can't be revealed for 
security reasons. 

745
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,160
So this is a just a very, just a
few seconds of a video of the 

746
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,280
protests in the coastal region 
in Syria yesterday. 

747
00:43:48,280 --> 00:44:02,440
So if we just play that. 
And then on social media, a 

748
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:08,360
number of very well known Syrian
or Syrian sympathetic accounts 

749
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:13,320
went on record basically saying 
that what is unfolding in Syria 

750
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,880
is a reaction against what has 
been going on since December 

751
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,960
last year. 
It's almost a year since the 

752
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,080
fall of Damascus on December the
8th, 2024. 

753
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,680
Five people were killed Once the
General Security as it's called,

754
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:33,280
the militia that are working 
with the Jolani regime waded in 

755
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:38,120
and basically started injuring 
and using live ammunition, 

756
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,960
ammunition against the 
protesters. 

757
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,680
SO5 dead and a number of 
injuries, but the protests have 

758
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:49,080
continued. 42 protests across 
basically the coastal area in 

759
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,040
central Syria. 
They haven't arrived at Damascus

760
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:56,040
yet, but this is another account
that I would recommend everyone 

761
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,520
follow. 
Syria Justice Archive that 

762
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,720
basically runs an archive of all
of the atrocities being 

763
00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:08,200
committed by Jolani's forces. 
And again they talk about the 

764
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:12,480
protests among the Alawite 
Christians and Ishmaelis. 

765
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,160
Now it's interesting that the 
Ishmaelis, another minority sect

766
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,840
in Syria, have joined the 
protest because until now they 

767
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,000
have been relatively left alone 
by Jolani. 

768
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:27,560
They were among the 1st 2:00 
surrender as the Takfiri forces 

769
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,760
were advancing towards Damascus.
The fact that they're now 

770
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,600
joining the protests is for me a
sign that there is a general 

771
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,520
unrest that is now bubbling to 
the surface, or rather boiling 

772
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,520
to the surface. 
Now of course the threat will be

773
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:49,120
federalism and whether Western 
nations that were involved in 

774
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,440
the regime change war, not 
necessarily. 

775
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:58,800
Western Israel, Turkey, Russia 
will exploit the protests to 

776
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,760
basically take control and 
partition Syria into sectarian 

777
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:08,120
statelets, which of course was 
the project of Israel with the 

778
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,360
Clean Break Doctrine published 
in 1996. 

779
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,960
But just a quick look at the map
to see where the protests are 

780
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,960
actually taking place. 
So people can sort of geolocate 

781
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,560
it a little bit. 
So Latakia, Tortus, Hama, Homs, 

782
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:27,560
which is in in central Syria, 
you can see they're close to the

783
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:33,680
border with Idlib and and Hama. 
So serious protests going on and

784
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,880
something, as I said, that we've
been predicting for some time in

785
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,600
the articles that have been 
published up at UK columns. 

786
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,200
So not a huge surprise, but we 
have to wait and see where they 

787
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,320
go now. 
Will Damascus join in the 

788
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,400
protest? 
Personally, I think there's a 

789
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:54,040
very strong possibility because 
there has been an ethnic 

790
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,320
cleansing campaign being run by 
the tech fury forces. 

791
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,360
If we can just have a look at 
the post on acts by Syria 

792
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,040
Justice Archive showing that the
takfiris are now building a 

793
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:11,960
sectarian apartheid style wall 
in one of the areas in Damascus.

794
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,680
In Al Samaria area, which has 
been under attack in the last 

795
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:20,920
few weeks with families being 
persecuted and basically pushed 

796
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:25,040
out of their homes and takfiri 
elements being resettled into 

797
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,520
those homes. 
But now effectively what they 

798
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,680
appear to be doing is to be 
building a wall around the area 

799
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:36,400
to be able to fully besiege the 
Alawite communities within that 

800
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,080
area. 
So I think pretty soon we are 

801
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,040
going to see unification of 
those protests. 

802
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:46,000
But I also wanted to draw 
people's attention to a 2012 

803
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:52,120
e-mail among the Hillary Clinton
emails released by WikiLeaks, 

804
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,280
which actually stated so. 
This was 2012. 

805
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,720
At the same time, the fall of 
the House of Assad could well 

806
00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:03,000
ignite A sectarian war between 
the Shiites and the majority of 

807
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,320
the Sunnis of the region, 
drawing in Iran, which, in the 

808
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,120
view of the Israeli commanders, 
would not be a bad thing for 

809
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,480
Israel and its Western allies. 
In the opinion of this 

810
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,760
individual, such a scenario 
would distract and might 

811
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,120
obstruct Iran from its nuclear 
activities for a good deal of 

812
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,880
time. 
In addition, certain senior 

813
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,800
Israeli diligence analysts 
believe that this turn of events

814
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:29,000
may even prove to be a factor in
the eventual fall of the current

815
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,320
government of Iran. 
So, as I said, while these 

816
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:37,040
protests seem to be organic, at 
the moment, one doesn't know how

817
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,560
they might be infiltrated and 
exploited in favour, of course, 

818
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,360
of the Zionist block in the 
region. 

819
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:44,720
OK. 
Thank you, Vanessa. 

820
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:46,760
Charles, let's come back to you 
then. 

821
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:52,600
And well as company directors, 
many people have had to register

822
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,720
their identification with 
Companies House recently. 

823
00:48:55,720 --> 00:49:01,320
What's the latest on this? 
Well, the latest really is the 

824
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,200
pushing of a false narrative, I 
would say by Companies House, 

825
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,320
which of course goes back to the
Economic Crime and Corporate 

826
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,240
Transparency Act 2023. 
The effectively the suggestion 

827
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:14,120
that Companies House is being 
used as a front for what they're

828
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,840
calling bogus directors. 
So they're saying that the these

829
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,480
changes in order that they avoid
these sort of bogus 

830
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,000
circumstances. 
And again, this is something 

831
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,280
that's been pushed very much on 
social media over the last 

832
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,360
couple of years with much 
reporting on how Companies House

833
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,880
is kind of complicit in an awful
lot of fraud and other crime. 

834
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:37,880
But but they have put out a 
mechanism by which one is 

835
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:42,400
supposed to confirm or verify 
one's identity, if indeed you 

836
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,280
are a company director or a 
person with significant control 

837
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,360
of an organization. 
Now a lot of this has been 

838
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:53,240
confusingly reported, let's say 
or, or, or wilfully misreported.

839
00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:55,320
There's been a lot of 
information out there about the 

840
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,160
requirement for biometrics and 
all that kind of thing. 

841
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,280
Now that's not necessarily the 
case. 

842
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,240
Whilst there is, it is possible 
to go that particular route and 

843
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:06,960
on screen now is a video that's 
been put out by Companies House 

844
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,760
as to how you might verify your 
identity and of course the 

845
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,200
security and convenience of 
doing so. 

846
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,320
It's it is really about pushing 
people towards a centralized 

847
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,800
government run digital identity.
And when I say government run, 

848
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:25,400
they might control it in so far 
as the purchasing and design 

849
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,320
organization goes. 
But of course, this is all held 

850
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,080
by third parties now. 
I've been in touch with the 

851
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,440
company's house press office to 
get an update on exactly what 

852
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,720
has been going on and to to ask 
questions about their sort of 

853
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,640
reporting on the way they see 
it. 

854
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,760
Now, they say that they're 
phasing in the identity 

855
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,880
verification over 12 months from
the 18th of November to make 

856
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,480
things easier for existing 
directors. 

857
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:54,160
Now anybody who has acted as a 
company director will have to 

858
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,240
scratch their heads now and 
think of all those difficulties 

859
00:50:57,240 --> 00:50:59,640
that have been put before them 
because Companies House 

860
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,640
apparently didn't know who they 
were. 

861
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,840
Anyway, they went on to say 
they've designed our identity 

862
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,800
identity verification processes 
to be simple, secure and robust.

863
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,800
Well, we'll come back to that in
a minute. 

864
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,160
They say that more than 1.7 
million individuals have 

865
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,760
successfully verified their 
identity. 

866
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,240
This is going back to the 
deadline or what they were very 

867
00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:20,480
much suggesting was a deadline 
of the 18th of November and that

868
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,280
there are still 6 or 7 million 
people who are still required to

869
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,280
do so. 
They then said, and I would like

870
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,920
Mike's comment on this, that the
verification and filing services

871
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:35,560
were unaffected by the 
Cloudflare issues as reported on

872
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,120
the 18th of November. 
Mike, what's your take on that? 

873
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,560
I would be highly skeptical of 
that. 

874
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,400
We can talk much more about 
this, this an extra, but I have 

875
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,680
absolute reason to believe that 
the company's house was affected

876
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:53,160
by the Cloudflare outage. 
And well, we, as I say, we'll 

877
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,520
talk about that an extra. 
Yeah, it is. 

878
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,960
It's absolutely an interesting 
talking point nonetheless. 

879
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,360
They went on and have been 
moving the goal posts on their 

880
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,560
website about verifying your 
identity. 

881
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,240
The first thing they said was 
just the day before what they'd 

882
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:10,480
absolutely suggested was a 
deadline. 

883
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,320
They put out an update saying 
this date is not a deadline, but

884
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,680
it marks the start of a 12 month
transition period. 

885
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,160
In effect giving themselves 
wiggle room for the number of 

886
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,600
people that do not appear to 
have actually complied and 

887
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,880
signed up. 
And then somewhat ironically, 

888
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,800
they then have a fraud warning 
saying do not let others use 

889
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,640
your identity. 
And to my point about the 

890
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,040
government not actually 
controlling this, of course, 

891
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,640
this is all entirely contingent 
upon the management of your data

892
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:39,320
by Experian who again, further 
irony have on their website a 

893
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:43,280
data breach resolution service. 
Now if you're wondering why 

894
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,520
that's ironic, we'll go back to 
2015 and look at the Twin Gate 

895
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:50,320
report. 
Massive UK data breach that 

896
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:55,000
Experian were responsible for or
indeed suffered largely due to 

897
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,800
sorry, involving mobile 
telephone operators. 

898
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:02,840
Then another in South Africa in 
2020, affecting 24 million 

899
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:07,440
people in South Africa. 
And more recently, the Dutch DPA

900
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:12,160
have fined Experience, sorry, 
Experience, Experian 2.7 million

901
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,680
for breaches of GDPR. 
So I think it would be something

902
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:21,360
of a stretch to suggest that 
that data is in safe hands. 

903
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,080
And if you're not a company 
director or you have nothing to 

904
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:28,040
do with Companies House, then 
may I suggest that this is the 

905
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:32,120
thin end of the wedge. 
And if at first they came for 

906
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:36,080
the company directors, they will
absolutely eventually come to 

907
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,480
you. 
Of course, the way to subvert, 

908
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,320
thwart and bogged down this 
system is via Freedom of 

909
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,800
Information requests and in 
particular subject access 

910
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,160
requests in order to find out 
the information that they do 

911
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:51,120
have on you in order to be able 
to get that information removed.

912
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,000
I would just finish off by 
encouraging you to go to the UK 

913
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,440
column website and type in a 
search for digital identity. 

914
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,880
It's a little bit small on 
screen, but there's there is 

915
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,960
absolute trove of information 
about this, about where it's 

916
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,240
going, where it's come from and 
how it will affect you. 

917
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,480
And just to add to this, I just 
want to put a smile on 

918
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:17,280
everyone's face because here is 
Richard Dearlove, who is 

919
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,440
extremely concerned all of a 
sudden that when you aggregate 

920
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,960
data into one massive base, a 
database, it means, of course it

921
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,160
may. 
It immediately becomes a target 

922
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:30,280
for the country's enemies. 
You therefore must be sure that 

923
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,000
the Citadel is impregnable. 
He's talking about the Citadel 

924
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,320
that is the the massive 
database. 

925
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,920
Well, it's interesting that he 
focuses on the country's enemies

926
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,160
and when in fact, most of these 
data breaches are related to 

927
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,960
criminals, criminal gangs. 
But anyway, we'll talk about 

928
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,040
more about that and extra as 
well. 

929
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,840
But Vanessa, let's come back to 
you and back to the Middle East 

930
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,160
again. 
And what are the UAE and Israel 

931
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,040
up to? 
Yeah, and also quite amusing 

932
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:04,120
that of course most of the data 
is being stored on Israeli cloud

933
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:08,440
systems. 
But anyway, minor detail. 

934
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,720
So, yeah, I mean, basically we 
have a situation, of course, in 

935
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:18,480
Gaza, unsurprisingly, even with 
the UN Security Council Trump 

936
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,880
resolution, of course, it's 
basically frozen with Israel 

937
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:29,720
still occupying 58% of Gaza 
territory and still bombing and 

938
00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:33,240
starving and basically 
ethnically cleansing the 

939
00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:39,280
Palestinians that remain in in a
much reduced territorial area of

940
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,640
Gaza. 
At the same time, we've talked 

941
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,080
about this often that where are 
we heading towards? 

942
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,640
And and as you always say, Mike,
follow the direction of travel. 

943
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,680
Don't look at the distractions 
on the way. 

944
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:55,120
And this is very much what the 
UAE has been quietly up to. 

945
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,160
Why the genocide has been 
ongoing in Gaza. 

946
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:03,640
UAE and Israel quietly advanced 
this so-called peace railway 

947
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,920
amid the Gaza genocide. 
Now what is this? 

948
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,480
Of course the UAE. 
This is a tweet, or rather a 

949
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,400
post. 
I still can't call them posts. 

950
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,880
Back in 2024 when the UAE and 
Saudi Arabia were effectively 

951
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:23,480
providing a land bridge to allow
the supply to basic supplies to 

952
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:29,160
break the Yemeni Red Sea 
blockade, of course, to try and 

953
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,680
bring an end to the genocide in 
Gaza. 

954
00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:39,000
And how does this tie in with 
the long term plans and campaign

955
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:43,520
by Israel and of course by Trump
and the UK? 

956
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,520
The entire alliance, including 
Tony Blair? 

957
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,960
Of course, if we have a look at 
this, it's the India Middle 

958
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,360
East, European Economic 
Corridor, the blessings and 

959
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,240
curse map that Netanyahu showed 
at the UNGA. 

960
00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:58,880
And you can see quite clearly 
they're going from India through

961
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:04,200
the UAE, Saudi Arabia, using 
Palestinian territory, 

962
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,440
Palestinian gas of course, to 
create the free trade zone in 

963
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:12,320
Gaza, linking into Greece, 
bypassing Cyprus there. 

964
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:17,520
But of course Israel is stealth 
occupying Cyprus with the help 

965
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:23,720
of the Greek Cypriot government.
So basically what we're looking 

966
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:30,800
at and what we have to keep an 
eye on is this end term plan by 

967
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,960
the collective worst, the GCC, 
the Gulf state countries that of

968
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:39,520
course are captured by the 
Zionist bloc, Tony Blair and 

969
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,840
Jared Kushner and so on. 
And and see everything that is 

970
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,920
occurring in the region as being
very much part of this. 

971
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:49,960
Thank you, Vanessa. 
Thank you. 

972
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,880
We're going to end today with a 
little bit of vaccine news. 

973
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:58,040
So six days ago, the Centre for 
Disease Control in the United 

974
00:57:58,040 --> 00:57:59,960
States published this page on 
the website. 

975
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:04,480
And the first key point states 
that that the claim vaccines do 

976
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,440
not cause autism is not an 
evidence based claim because 

977
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,720
studies have not ruled out the 
possibility that infant vaccines

978
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,160
cause autism. 
And they go on to say that 

979
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,000
HSSHHS has launched A 
comprehensive assessment of the 

980
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,880
causes of autism, including 
investigations on plausible 

981
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,440
biologic mechanisms and 
potential causal risks. 

982
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,920
And they said that the web page 
should be updated with gold 

983
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,960
standard science results from 
the HHS comprehensive assessment

984
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,080
from the causes of autism as 
required by the Data Quality 

985
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,760
Act. 
Well, that posting has garnered 

986
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,240
quite a response from the MHRA 
here in the UK. 

987
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,400
They're clearly very upset about
it. 

988
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,240
Here's Doctor Alison Cave, the 
MHRA safety officer. 

989
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,960
She says multiple large, well 
conducted studies involving 

990
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,720
millions of children worldwide 
have consistently demonstrated 

991
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:57,280
that there's no evidence that 
vaccines cause autism in 

992
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,720
children. 
She went on to say vaccination 

993
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,760
remains one of the most 
effective and safest ways there 

994
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,920
you have it to protect against 
serious and potentially life 

995
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,560
threatening diseases supported 
by decades of scientific 

996
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,920
evidence in the UK and 
internationally. 

997
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,080
But don't worry because patient 
safety is her top priority. 

998
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:20,280
The MHRA encourages anyone to 
report suspected side effects to

999
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,080
them via the MHRA yellow card 
scheme. 

1000
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,080
Charles how well did that work 
during the COVID ocracy? 

1001
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,360
I can't really imagine it going 
any worse frankly. 

1002
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,240
And I mean, even now, I think 
five years on, the number of 

1003
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,000
people that actually are aware 
that there was a yellow card 

1004
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,040
scheme, I think is still 
absolutely minuscule. 

1005
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:46,480
Yes, but clearly they're very 
upset with what Robert Kennedy's

1006
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:50,480
doing and well, we'll keep 
everybody posted on how that 

1007
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,040
develops, but we've got to leave
it there for today. 

1008
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,800
So I'm going to say thank you 
very much, Charles and Vanessa 

1009
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,520
for joining me. 
Thank you all for watching. 

1010
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,440
If you're a UK column member, 
please do stick around on the 

1011
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:04,480
live stream and we'll be back 
for some UK column news extra in

1012
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:08,040
a few minutes. 
Otherwise, don't forget Carl 

1013
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,080
tonight and interview tomorrow. 
Sandy's interview tomorrow at 

1014
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,800
1:00. 
We'll be back on Friday at 1:00 

1015
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,760
PM as usual for another news 
programme. 

1016
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:17,920
See you then. 
Bye bye.