Owen Benjamin, thank you for joining me in the trenches.
Thanks for having me man, and I have I apologise if I sound like
a combination of RFK and Alex Jones today.
It's actually, it's actually quite great.
I must tell you, Alex Jones is the only guy that I know who can
actually talk to the camera in a in an 80s, nineties cheesy way.
You know, you'll say like what I'm about to tell you, come
closer, and then the camera goes closer to him.
It's the only guy I know who can pull that off.
That's so true. He's like, oh, I didn't notice
you there. Come here.
I just gave you. Let's talk about China.
Let's talk about the Tracoms. Hillary Clinton wants you to
have a lead penis. We have to get that boner.
We have to get patriotic boner and pills.
I almost introduced you as Owen Wilson.
I have no idea why it's. Not a lot of Owens people do
that a lot, but the Owen Wilson's like the only other
Owen now there's a bunch of Owen kids, but it for someone my age
it was a very rare name. Are you a fan though of his
work? He's quite.
An actor, yeah. Yeah, I, I think Wedding Crash
is really, I mean, it's, it's early stuff like Bottle Rocket.
I mean, they were making videos for like No Money Independent
and a lot of those were really funny and I think he's
hilarious. What's been happening, other
than the fact that you have just been grilling Ian Carroll on X
for weeks? Yeah, yeah.
I just keep calling him a ween wisher, a shaft sipper.
Yeah. It's like, because I don't know,
that moustache, I feel like he's just rubbing it in everyone's
face, you know? And and he responded, he said he
thought it was funny. He's like, I don't think Owen
Benjamin likes me, but I I really think this is funny.
I'm like, I got no problem with you, man.
I just don't like gays. And then the camera pushes in.
I'm like, I'm just not into guys that are Willy Wacken.
And, and I did it in a fun way, though, So like, you can't
really ever get mad. I'm like, yeah, he's out here
hammer hugging, you know, like I'm, it was like playful.
So I hope he he got a kick out of it.
But now everybody's spiralling because he wore like a red
Cabala bracelet. He guest hosted for Candace
Owens, and he was wearing some red Cabal bracelet.
Everyone's freaking out. He said his girlfriend's dad
gave it to him. And I'm like, girlfriend, you
know? I think all of his BlackRock
research was because he was looking up What's the vulgarity
level for this network. You can say anything you want.
I think Ian Carol was looking up black cock and he stumbled into
a rabbit hole on BlackRock. I don't know, I just think it's
possible. What do you make of him though?
Just came out of nowhere. Uses every, uses the stuff that
we all talked about six years ago when we got kicked off
YouTube. And he's like highly monetized.
And I don't know, he just seems like he's got a little twinkle
in his eye, like he's, you know, a fan of rollerblading, if you
know what I mean. I was disappointed when he was
on Rogan and he used Whitney Webb's Epstein work and he
didn't credit her. No, I'm sure he'd probably like
my, you know. Yeah, those guys are all snakes,
man. You know, we're all standing on
the shoulders of giants. It's all about shouting people
out. Same thing in comedy.
It's like if I do a bit and then I find out someone did something
similar before, I'm like, I shout them out.
I'm like, oh, wow, that's great. We'll check out this guy's work.
This whole like narcissistic, you know, sabotage everyone that
you know, you're using their, their jokes or their word.
I mean, that just ends horribly every time.
It's just we're, we're social like we're social creatures.
We're not supposed to do that. It's dishonourable.
Although, I mean, if you want to give him just a bit of credit,
at least he's got now a fairly big platform to, to make those
comments that, you know, that was being that were being
censored. But but you only get that
platform if you're willing to play ball, in my opinion.
It's like, you know, it's like because he's not giving any
solutions or he's not raising morale every day.
That's why I keep making fun of him every day.
It's like, dude, they just killed an the government killed
an ostrich and there's nothing you can do.
And I'm just like, Jesus, dude, like freaking like get people
pumped. And that's why I think I'm so
censored because like, I think they're scared I'm going to
start, like I'm going to raise the birth rate or something
because I'm always like getting people to have kids and garden
and all this stuff. And that actually helps people
not be so vulnerable. And so when you got, you know,
disparumer at least just have like be funny about it, you
know, just give somebody something to get them through
the day versus like the truth about who owns Pantene shampoo.
You know, you're like, oh, I mean, guys, Ian, you're obsessed
with fucking shampoo. You know, fucking fruit
conditioner. Yes, he's so into shampoo.
He's like, here I am. Herbal Essence and Pantene is
both owned by the same company. I'm like, who gives a fuck?
I. Mean Speaking of Rogan, your
shows with him were taken down. Yeah, I did 3 Rogans and they
were all removed from the Internet.
That's why whatever people. And I'm like a super nice guy.
This is the funniest shit is is people like, Oh yeah, Owen
Benjamin, he went crazy. He's like so aggressive.
That's why I just put up ladle.tv for $9.11 a month.
Never forget. It's it's every podcast I've
ever done all the way back when I started whining.
They laugh and if you go back and listen, I'm not the one who
changed. I was always super nice and
happy and we're like making fun of black guys and like the me
and the head writer of Family Guy me and all these guys that
are now that all like pretend to be PC.
They all are playing make believe, you know, and I have my
faults and I have my weaknesses, but I've always been like fun to
be around and like they just they all changed and they all
play. It's like watching little kids
pretend they're spider man and I'm like, you know, they're
like, oh, I cannot believe. Did you hear what this person
said? I'm like, dude, six months ago I
watched you black out like piss in your own mouth screaming Jews
like what do you I know you, you know, are you going to pretend
that you're not that guy? And they're like, Oh, and
Benjamin. And I'm like, all right.
And I think they've all lost their minds.
I think they went nuts. Like they, they.
That's why so many of them aren't funny anymore.
Hang on, the all I caught from what you just said was $9.11.
That is epic. That is epic trolling.
Totally, yeah. People write me how funny it is
when they get like a a bill and and it just says 911.
I don't know, I just thought that was a bad I'm retarded.
I have this sense of humour of like an 8 year old.
You just said retarded. That word has made a comeback.
Yes, I, I, I, I think I'm going to take a little bit of credit
for that one. I refuse to give up retarded.
But I mean, look, at the end of the day, humour is actually
very, very important. It's that saying or that adage,
you know, laughter is the best medicine and people are so, so
offended by everything. I know The funny thing about
even the word offended, like people are like, I'm offended.
I'm like, offended doesn't mean anything.
Like a paedophile is offended by an age of consent law, like that
offends A paedophile. Like like strong parenting
offends paedophiles. You know, it's like, what are
you offended by? You know, And then they have to
establish a standard which they don't have at all.
It's like, oh, that's racist. I'm like, you're promoting
Israel. Israel's an ethno state, like,
so you're not against it. And they're like, oh, but you
know, lampshades and soap. And I'm like, you're fucking
nuts. You know, to like, don't you
know what happened 85 years ago with the German guy and soap?
I'm like, listen to yourself. I know 15 guys that died of
fentanyl personally. I'm like, you're talking about a
fucking German guy making soap. Like, what the fuck are you
talking to? And they're just like, that's
when they just shut down. They're like, we have to get
them off TikTok. I'm like, yeah, Because it's
just because comedy is always revelatory.
That's what makes it so funny is because.
Because it's an exaggeration of the truth.
But it's the truth. And it's like, you know, that's
why when I just pointed out how short Joe Rogan was, everyone
went nuts because he's like, he's like, so small.
Yeah. He's like, the littlest.
And I'm not even against short people.
It's just like, it's just funny to me that you got this like
hyper masculine bow hunting fucking UFC guy and he and he
looks like he should be shot out of a cannon.
You know, he's like one of those little minion guys from that
movie and with these little tiny legs.
And I don't know, I guess that offended him.
Well, there is a there is a limit.
I mean once you go to the dwarf height, then it starts getting
all all weird and people get funny again.
Like like in that Snow White movie that came out that
completely tanked. Oh yeah, I, I was just listening
to a part about that. I mean, Disney is just
spiralling. That's why you can't try and
make anyone happy. It's like you have to just be
yourself. Because I can see every move
they were making. They were like trying to do they
were like trying to placate some group and they ended up pissing
like now that dwarfs hate Disney, like actual dwarfs are
like you get your jobs to big people and Disney's like, what
the fuck? It's like, yeah, it's because
it's because they're always trying to like please everyone.
That's that's the thing about the woke left is they're
actually like the most codependent people in the world
just trying to put they're like, oh, this trans wheelchair pedo
is offended by the colour blue. Let's fucking get rid of the
ocean, you know? And you're like, dude, tell them
to be like to shut the fuck up. Who's that?
Who's that dude who acted as Tyrion Lannister?
He got all offended with that whole Snow White Dwarf thing.
I can't remember his name. Now you know what I'm talking.
About yeah, Peter Dinklage. Yes, yes, he got all upset about
the whole dwarf thing. Oh yeah, freaking out.
And his last name is Dinklage. Like dude, that's why that guy's
so pissed all the time. Imagine a fucking Midget named
Dinklage. Like your life.
I mean, you might as well be named like, little Ween, you
know? It's like, my name is Peter
Danklage, and he's like, yeah, he's offended on behalf of
fucking midgets. I'm like, dude, 50 years ago we
were feeding you to tigers. Like, relax.
Like, take the win. You you made that cartoon some
time back about everything being about branding.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Pol Pot, he's like, you're
not getting in Pol Pot. He's like, I kill million of
scienti in jungle with God and it's like, but that doesn't sell
it, baby. You're not getting it.
You got to sell it with a pile of shoes and a little girl with
a red dress. It's like you.
No, but I kill more people. It's not about killing people,
Pol Pot. It's about brand awareness.
You want killing Fields incorporated, you got to sell
it, baby. Come on, shoes.
But I shoot, I shoot slant time with guns.
It's like you're not getting it. Pol Pot genocide is not about
killing people. It's about brand aware.
I love that shit. It's like they want they did.
They made like the Holocaust. Museums are like Six Flags Great
Adventures. You know, it's like Disney
World. You know, it's like a big money
maker. I want a franchise. 1A.
Holocaust Museum. Yeah, I mean, if you can do a
McDonald's or Subway, why not a Holocaust Museum?
I get some teeth, some fucking shoes, 50 bucks at the door.
It's a killer. It's great.
What did you charge for entrance 6?
9-9 dollars and eleven $9.11 and on it it says, it just says
$9.11 and it just says and you know who did that?
By the way? I actually looked into it.
I tried to figure out how to franchise the Holocaust Museum
and you can't like there's no way to get your own 1.
So I guess they have a lock on that because it's a genius.
I mean, people throw away shoes all the time and it's like I'll
just put them in a pile and charge people and tell them that
they did that. You know what's funny, though,
about the whole Holocaust industry, as Norman Finkelstein
calls it, is that these days, I mean, what are we 8080 years
away from it now? And you, you, you still see
headlines about Holocaust survivor, but the number has
gone up. Yeah, go up.
I'm not. They'll just always keep going
up. Dude.
You can add your name to the Holocaust survivor list.
Like you can just add your name. I can be like, Peter Dinklage
survived out. That's why I was selling those
mugs before I got banned from that bank.
I literally got kicked out of a bank for for this merch.
It's just that I survived the Holocaust with a heart.
And and it because it's like, how can you get mad at that?
It's like, technically we did all survive the Holocaust, but,
you know, there was a Holocaust. We're all here.
Yeah. You know it's great news.
I think if you if you're Jewish, you just have to generally be
born in the region somewhere near Germany to to be able to
make that claim. And yeah.
And. Even being Jewish, like what?
What is that? They're like, yeah, we can be
atheist and black. We just have to lie a lot.
That's what makes you do it. It's like, what the hell does
that even mean? You're just like paranoid with a
clipped Dick. Like what?
What They they can't even define Jew, you know.
If you push the envelope so much and you do get cancelled
everywhere, you do end up kind of losing because you can't
really beat the machine. Yeah, but see, I was never
trying to beat the machine. That's why you can't really get
cancelled if you're just focusing on your craft because
like, if you're trying to like, like I was always just trying to
be funny, you know? And so, yeah, I got kicked off
everything, but I'm still I'm right now.
I'm with you, you know, talking and and I I ended up better than
I ever thought I'd end up. It's like every time I get
pissed off thinking about, you know, stupid ween wacking Ian
Carroll just crushing on TikTok and I'm fucking like so thankful
I'm allowed on bit shoot. I just look at my life and I'm
like, I live in a Norman Rockwell painting.
I have like this awesome family that respects me.
I grow all my own food. My listeners are legendary.
It's like I learned so much about life from these struggles
that I wouldn't change a thing. And if I go back 15 years, I
would be so pumped how my life turned out, you know?
But if, if I measure it in just like how big the the crowd is or
my movie credits or whatever, it's like, yeah, like if they
did kick me out of everything. But I'm I'm very happy with the
way it turned out. I mean, are you?
Do you? Do you wake up every day with a
smile on your face? Yeah, today not so much because
I got our time zones wrong and I sound like RFK, but because I
was going to lose my voice. So I'm just like, my wife hung
herself because I can't stop fucking.
And yeah, but I feel really good.
I'm pumped. Where do you think his voice
comes from? And also Alex's voice, for that
matter. I think RFK is from heroin and
eating asses. But Alex, I'm dead serious.
I think he got like parasites like that one dude got throat
cancer and he said it was from so much box contact.
What was that guy's name? Michael Douglas.
Remember that Captain Zeta Jones's husband literally said
no, it's from and he said it was from too much cunnilingus.
That's what he said. And then you look at RFK like a
guy that was strung out on heroin as a Kennedy for decades,
just he'd fuck a trash can if it just like had a :) on it, he'd
just start fucking it. And if you're on that road, it's
like that bacteria gets in your throat.
You're a little messed up. And so Alex, I think it was from
booze and tricoms, you know, understanding Hillary Clinton.
It might be in the sewer somewhere.
I think he just got so fired up that he got dehydrated.
And it's like, and his vocal cords got a little fucked.
But I think his voice is hilarious.
I love it. He's like less Patriots Mount
up. Yeah, Alex is great.
I was on a show. I was, I was on Alex's show
yesterday and somebody messaged me saying let me know if you
think that is the real Alex. And my response was it
absolutely is, because nobody can interrupt as smoothly as
Alex Jones. Yeah, that's him.
That's him. He probably just like got some
TRT or some shit, you know, just pull up.
Yeah, well, Speaking of which, I mean, RFK, what is he like 70
something? And he's pretty jacked.
Yeah, he's, you know, he hates Big Pharma except for the Pfizer
shots he gets for his fucking testosterone.
You know, he's like Big Pharma except for like my boner pills.
You know, those guys are getting fucking jacked.
I'm scared. I'm scared of taking TRTI.
Think I'd get too intense. I'm like already 6 foot 8 and
very problematic, you know. So if my testosterone went up
more, it would I, I, I mean, I kind of like being more mellow
now, like in my 40s. It's like I'm not just
constantly have to crush all the time, you know?
I like it. Yes.
I mean, go back to to what you're saying earlier.
You said you, you grow your own food and all that.
I mean, so are you into homesteading?
Yeah, I have cows, goats, alpacas, year round greenhouse,
you know, 100 fruit trees. Yeah.
And then I got property up north where IA lot of forests.
It's on a river. It's epic.
Yeah. I like to be, yeah, I'm on a
well. I, I, I, you know, I'm one of
those truthers that I figure shit out and then I actually do
the thing that you're supposed to do where it's like, oh,
there's fluoride in the water. Edward Bernays.
It's aluminium byproduct. It makes you docile, blah, blah,
blah. And I'm like, all right, I'm
going to get on a well. And then some of those other
dudes, like years later, they're like, oh, yeah, we're still
drinking fluoride. I'm like.
I thought we figured that one out, guys, you know?
And I'm like that with growing food and all that shit too.
So what do you you, You try and actually walk the talk, is what
you're saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think that's what gets people the most pissed off about me,
even in like the alternative wings, you know, like I spiral
people when they like people are talking about like white
replacement and shit like that. I'm like, yeah, that's why you
can have a bunch of white people with with your Dick.
It's called having kids. I just had four sons, you know,
And they're like, and then, and then like, I think the shame
kicks in. And then they, they kind of like
throw it at me. And I'm like, guys, you can just
have a bunch of kids, like white angelic kids, like let's make
some angels. And they're just like, oh, and
Benjamin's a Jew, a gay Jew. I'm like, huh, If I'm a gay Jew,
then those words are now meaningless.
Like that's not, that's not a a word, you know?
Yeah. But I mean, I think people would
think that because of your surname.
It's my middle name. It's like my name is Owen
Benjamin Smith. And there was an Owen Smith
comedian that was in the Screen Actors Guild.
And for years I fought and he's black too.
I fought that black bastard over the name.
And I'd I'd, I'd get booked at the improv like 2004 and it'd be
like Owen Smith and, and, and the black guy got mad and he had
more credits at the time. So the the Booker was like, just
go with your middle name. I'm like, that's fucking weird,
man. My name's Owen Smith and they're
like just middle name. It's fine.
I'm like, I had a coach named Coach Benjamin.
I'm like, that's fine. And now it's like all this
gotcha shit on Twitter. They're like, OK, Benju, man,
I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you people?
And they're like, it says the Jew.
I'm like OK dude if it's 6 foot 8 uncircumcised blue eyed guy
that farms in Idaho and says *** openly is a Jew then Jews don't
fucking exist. What is up with society that
they're always trying to bring down people that like yourself?
What? Why do you?
I mean, is it a what is it? There's something sociopathic.
Yeah, but there is a function to it and that's why I do accept it
because it's like, it's almost like testing someone to see if
they can handle it. That's what I think the role of
that type of guy is in nature. It's almost like the coyote
tests my fence line. Like I've I live around like
actual wolves and like giant predatory animals.
So it's like you got the coyote out there.
They're always testing. They're always testing to see if
your fence is strong. And so I think that that's kind
of what they're doing with people.
If someone starts getting success or starts being seen as,
you know, elevated in any way, people will just start attacking
to see if they spurred out. I think the people that are
attacking don't realise any of this.
I think in their mind they're just projecting their own shame
and insecurities. But I I don't mind it because I
think that's the natural function of it.
Yeah, but I mean, I think it's it's some sort of power game.
They always want to be one step above you.
Yes, yeah. And well, I'll, I'll tell you,
this is where this is my opinion on this.
It's actually kind of philosophical.
So my motto was always, I might be wrong, but I'm not lying, you
know? And so, and that always sets up
the dynamic of like, listen, I might be wrong with what I'm
saying and you know, but I'm genuine.
And, and so you can't really get mad if someone's genuine, you
know, because what do you want me to do?
Why? To make you feel better, you
know, and then their motto is, I might be lying, but I'm not
wrong. So that their will and themself
is the arbiter of truth. And so if they feel bad, it
means that if they feel bad about something, it means that
thing is wrong, that reality and truth itself is attacking them.
And so when you're in that world, you, you're always
putting down everybody that you think is a threat to you in any
way. Whereas someone like me, I'm
always just trying to reach for a higher level of craft.
Like I don't matter, you know, like I'm trying to like, I'm
competing against myself, my own weakness.
So it's like if I'm playing classical piano, I, I'm not
thinking like, how do I destroy the other piano player that
plays better than me? You know, it's like, no, I think
like, how do I master this craft more?
And it's like that with comedy. Like when I see somebody that's
really funny, I like take a lot of joy in that.
I'm like, oh, wow, you're, you just helped elevate me towards
an untouchable perfection that we're all trying to yearn for
versus versus like a Craftsman that is, you know, not focused
on, on that, on serving others or on truth or focused on their
own ego. And that's it's a sickness.
It's like a deep sickness. Ego.
I think you're right. It's about ego, definitely.
It's weird though, because do you do you think Jordan Peterson
has a point though, about being anonymous on the Internet and
and? You know, Jordan Peterson makes
a lot of great points and then he says the craziest shit in the
world. Yeah, like, say like, that's The
thing is I'm not motivated by like hating guys.
Like I'll make fun of Ian Carol for being a, a, a fruit fucker
or whatever and a little knob, a knob ninja.
And, and people are like, oh, you just, you hate Ian Carol.
I'm like, I don't hate really anybody.
I'm I don't hate Jordan Peterson.
I think he's one of the biggest shills ever, to the point where
if he says something true, I'm like, yeah, like he'll totally
say true shit about like, like a percentage of the population
that's like psychotic and Machiavellian.
I did just talk to Vox about Machiavelli though.
I think a lot of people got Machiavelli wrong, but anyway,
and, but he just doesn't include his bosses like Ben Shapiro and
stuff like that's where he's the liar.
Like he's explaining something accurately and it's him, you
know. And but yeah, I mean, the
anonymous thing online is I think people should be allowed
to be anonymous, but it I don't think people should really take
them. I don't think anyone should
listen to them unless they want to.
You know they don't matter if someone can't put their name
next to something they don't. They don't really matter because
they could just unwind. But I think what I'm what I'm
asking is, do you think that being anonymous encourages that
sociopathic mindset? Being anonymous, yeah.
There's no social consequence. I think it reveals.
I think it's like, like money, you know?
Money reveals people's character.
You give someone like when, when you have a lot, when you don't
have a lot of money, sometimes people's like angels and demons
aren't really fed. And so you give someone a bunch
of money and then you see what they really are.
Or, you know, during COVID, it's like you, you scare people and
then you see who has the balls and who doesn't.
You know, it's like in times of crisis and in times of feasting,
you can see what's hidden beneath people.
And so I think anonymity is a similar thing.
Like, what website would people go to if everyone could see what
sites they're going to? Like, if there was a social
ramification for going to like, blacks on blonde gang bang
sites, you know, it's like, is your principal really, you know,
if they weren't anonymous, would they do that?
And so that's why I always like, I had a Hollywood agent 20 years
ago tell me, never write an email unless you're comfortable
with it being on the front page of The New York Times.
And I was like, I'm just going to live like that.
That's why I'm so nakedly obvious online because I'm like,
I operate under the, the idea that everyone can see everything
anyway. You know that your smart TV can
literally register your pulse. I, I know some shit about the
bio world that's nuts. Like they, like, I think that
there are sensor abilities with Wi-Fi and nanotechnology and all
that, where they can tell if you're aroused, angry, sleepy,
like at all times, you know, I, I think, I think the amount of
data that people can get on your behaviour is insane.
So I just don't lie. It's kind of like going into a
pub or a bar with like a balaclava on so that nobody can
see who you are. Yeah, like what Kanye did on
Alex. Yeah, Like he literally didn't.
He put a yeah, he put a giant black mask on his face.
He carried the Bible. Yeah, yeah.
It's like, yeah, no, I, I, I, I when, when no one knows who you
are, who are you? You know, that's it.
It's very philosophical. And some people online like
they'll do this trolley shit and, and they're so scared of
being revealed. They're like, oh, he doxed me.
I'm like, why? Because I said hi, Mike.
Like, oh, how dare you? I'm like, dude, what are you up
to, man? What are you sneaking around?
You mentioned Kanye. What do you, what do you, what
do you think of his, of his new song?
I mean, after he said he sucked his cousin's Dick, I was kind of
out, you know? You heard that song, right?
I sucked my cousin's Dick. I'm like, Oh my God, dude, I'm
just tapping out. Did you see that video I made of
Hitler learning about the Kanye song?
Oh my God, dude, I got to send you this video.
You know that meme of like from the Downfall where it's a movie?
He's hitting the desk. Yeah, where he's spiralling.
I did that with the the Nazis come in and they're like, Sir,
one of the most, one of the biggest stars in the world just
released a song saying hail Hitler.
And Hitler's like, that's awesome.
He sounds great. I can't wait to, you know, make
fun of gay Negroes with him. And then they like do that look
and they're like, Sir, it's Kanye West.
And he just freaks out. He's like, he just said he
sucked his cousin's Dick. He's like, because it's Hitler
would have spiralled about this, you know, or else there's no
Hitler. Like, what's the point?
If like if he's into a guy, a black rapper that literally
brags about gay incest, then what's the point?
Like just be a George Soros Patreon supporter.
That's how it ends. Hitler's like, and Hitler's
like, Hitler's like, yeah, he joins George Jones's Patreon.
He's like that. This is why the Jews always win.
He's like, can we just not support a gay Negro and a
fucking Mexican cat boy named Fuentes?
He's like his last name might as well be Burrito, you know, Like,
how hard is it to not do that? You know what I like about it
though, Owen is that it's, it's, it's popularising the ability to
speak. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, there's a
lot of good shit about it. Like I like some of the effects
on society. Yeah, yeah.
It's like overnight the word *** is OK.
It's in with the Shiloh thing, which I think may be AII mean.
I'm I'm a little wacky, but it's like overnight the the shame MK
Ultra thing around words because I've been fighting this fight
for years, you know, and that's. I was very supportive of that
Lady. Hopefully she exists because
it's like that was great because I would ask the question online
the the lady that called the little thief *** Yeah, that she
raised like a like $1,000,000 or something.
Yeah, And I was loving that, you know, And so because I asked
these questions years ago, I said what's why is necrophilia
not the N word? Like that's having sex with a
dead body. I actually had this conversation
with Kanye West about this. I was like, he was like, yeah,
but that's not as bad as rape. I'm like, just stick with the
fucking topic, Kavya. I'm like, how is N word?
Like you have to censor this word, but not that.
I think I might have influenced him a bit and on this topic with
the Hitler stuff. But it's also so ridiculous
because when someone takes the time, just think about this,
they take the time to type out the N.
Oh, yeah, it's ridiculous. No, it used to drive me like
crazy. It was like the N word.
And, and it also implies that everyone knows what it is.
So my thing I like to do is be like which N word?
And they're like, you know, I'm like, no, which there's like
thousands of words that start with N, like which N word?
It's like, I, you know, the one that we should never call black
people. I'm like neighbour.
But also the the thing I don't get though is if you listen to
hip hop they they say it all the time.
Yeah. And they're always talking about
killing. They're always like, yeah, I put
a bullet in this *** Then I pissed on the *** And all the
Jews are like, oh, yeah. And then anything else they they
don't. And that's the whole psyop.
The whole psyop is that I was like witches.
I was having a fight with Jeffrey Wright on Twitter before
I was banned for five years. I was like, what's more
offensive? Saying I I have a lot in common
with those *** down the street or I want to kill every African
American and they'd be like, oh, how dare you?
And that's when they won't. That's why they just ban you
because I'm like, you now know I'm right.
Chris Rock did this 30 years ago.
I love black people, but I hate *** You know what that *** does?
And the whole thing is it's white people, white trash.
It's the same concept. It's like you.
It's a behaviour subcategory of a ethnic group.
And so you're like Chris Rock, like, nailed that bit.
He's like, yeah, yeah, you want to hide something from a *** you
put it under their work boots because *** don't work.
And the black audience is like, because that's ironically this
whole N word charade is implying that all black people are ***
which is actually super funny to me.
And it's also, it's also very stupid because it's giving power
to a word. Right.
And it's taking power from and it shames and cucks white people
in a way that's so pathetic. And then it also like makes
black people look like, like babies, like actual babies where
they're like, oh, if you say the word, I'm like, what?
Voldemort? Is it Voldemort?
You know, it's like Harry Potter shit.
But I mean, also, you said African American.
I mean, that's also a ridiculous term.
It's all ridiculous. I think there was like, I think
there was some indigenous blacks here too.
Yeah. I mean, Africa's name, it's
named after a Roman too, Africanus, right?
It's like kind of it's always going back to the whites.
I mean, Elon Musk and Charlize Theron are African American.
That's true. That's how I'm different.
Guy Kruger. Yeah, you.
So you told me you bought a a a Kruger, A Kruger and.
Yeah, yeah. I saw the gold thing coming.
I was like, dude, gold's gonna fucking go up.
And I just kept looking at this dude.
I'm like, this guy looks like a legend.
And I was, yeah, I was looking into that.
And you were telling me about the Boer War and, and Britain
and how the Boers, like, fought him for two years and they
thought they were gonna be home by Christmas, which is
legendary. But yeah, South Africa has an
amazing history. And you were telling me about
when the world was boycotting you, it was safer.
Dude. That's the same thing with me
being cancelled. It's like people look at me
where they're like, oh, that must be so hard on you.
I'm like, bro, I was like South Africa in the 70s.
It was great. South Africa now is more
dangerous. Way more.
Dangerous. Yeah.
Like what? Worse.
Trying trying to figure that one out.
Yeah, I know. It's nuts.
And I remember when there was that that sweatshirt, I don't
know if you know this about me, you might get a kick out of
this. Remember when there was that
sweatshirt with they were selling at the Gap or H&M that
said coolest Monkey in the jungle in South Africa?
And they like rioted because it was a black, it was a black
child model for H&M and they were selling a hoodie that said
Coolest Monkey in the Jungle. And.
I think I really, yeah, they like burned down the H&M.
So I started selling those hoodies like right after like I
was, and I started selling coolest bear in the woods,
coolest monkey in the jungle. Like literally the exact I was.
I was daring them to fucking to make a story out of it.
And the media did the right move and they left it alone because I
was like wearing coolest, coolest monkey in the jungle.
And I was like exactly taking their their merchandise idea,
like I wanted them to be like, file a claim or something
against me because it would have started this hilarious dialogue
about like, you know, why can't I be the coolest monkey in the
jungle? Is it only for black people?
Like, why are you offended by that, you know?
One of the things I don't understand you you're talking
about the medias. Why are they always on the wrong
side of history? That's it.
I thought inverted. I mean that's when you get
spiritual and it's like yes is no, no is yes, love is hate.
You know, like the fact they demonise mothers.
It's like, oh, she's a stay at home mom.
It's like Chesterton is so yeah, Chesterton is so right about
that where it's like it's the job is mother and everything
else is to support that job. And that's not like a cock
statement either. It's like, it's like, what makes
kids into good people, you know? And so like, would you rather
have her be a fucking corporate lawyer?
You know, it's like they, they, they act like that's success and
they, they demonise mothers. So I think it's the same thing.
I think when you're inverted, everything is the opposite.
Like I, I know that I'm like a loving dude, like I'm a happy
loving guy. And they, they would look at me
and see hatred because I live, you know, and then if I have,
you have a bunch of kids, it means you hate the environment.
It's like, no, like, what the fuck are you talking about?
You know, they see like humans as a virus on the earth.
And it's, it's say it's just like sickness.
It's like a spiritual sickness in my opinion.
They say that history repeats itself, goes in cycles.
Do you think that comedy will go back to some of the golden years
again? Yeah, I mean, I see a lot more
funny stuff online now than I was four or five years ago.
But they're, I think they did realise the power of comedy and
they're going to always be fucking with it now because it's
like the social control and social engineering ability of
comedy with Overton Window and all that is nuts.
I mean even just me censored the ripples I was sending out with
jokes were like catching waves and breaking social engineering.
That I think that's why Netflix literally pays billions of
dollars to try and keep all the comedians in line because it's
like to normalise evil. Laugh tracks are notorious for
normalising evil. It's like because human allotted
a certain type of person like they they're called like
sheeple. You know, they're like herd
animals where like. If they hear a bunch of people
laughing, they're like, oh, this is good, then I should laugh
along. And it's like psychologically
crazy powerful. So I don't think they're ever
going to let go. I think they're going to try and
always front run it and then make it look like it's
rebellious. Like Joe Rogan being like, like,
like having all the media going attacking Joe Rogan that he that
he was like attacking trans people.
And he's like, listen, trans women are women, but some are
fucking crazy. I'm like, like, it's like, it's
gatekeeping. It's like, no, it's a guy who
cut his Dick off, you know, like that.
It's a guy like that's a guy Joe.
So like, he'll do his offensive thing after establishing a new
ridiculous leftist fact. But it's like, yeah, obviously
trans women are women. I mean, just like your mother.
But like, some are crazy. Like, I'm not signing off on
that, Joe. And the people that aren't
laughing, it's not because they're offended.
It's because it's fucking not funny.
That's why a lot of this shit, a lot of this stuff isn't funny
anymore. Yeah, I mean that.
I mean the last 20 years have of comedy have not been funny.
No, and it did used to be funny. I'm not just being a boomer.
Like if you watch Richard Paul. Yeah.
Or like old SNL, it's like those Phil Harmon sketches and those
Chris Farley sketches. I mean, they're way funnier.
Like those characters. I mean, Will Forte still funny?
I mean, I just rewatched Macgruber.
That made me laugh. Yeah, but most of it is fucking
terrible. Leaving, exiting Hollywood is
like, I watched Zach Galifianakis do a *** joke on
stage and like a year later, everyone's pretending that the
Word family is offensive. I'm like, guys, I have a memory.
Like I remember this and those jokes were so funny.
It's not even anti black people. It's like he did this bit.
He goes, I never say sand *** unless I'm at the beach
sometimes and I say get off the sand *** Volleyball's a white
man's sport. Like it's just silly jokes like
that. Sarah Silverman, same thing she
used to go. I just saw three hundred.
I think it was named 300 because that the question was how gay is
it out of one to 10? You know, like everyone made fun
of gays. I I sing a song about Jimmy
Fallon getting AIDS and one of the lines was not gay AIDS, full
blown African AIDS. And then I went on tour with the
guy like no one fucking cared. And then all of a sudden it was
like, I think it's financial systems, dude.
I think it's end of empire shit. I think like when the bills
start coming in, people are like fucking.
They're just always paranoid weirdos are.
They they are one or two comedians in the mainstream,
sort of sort of touching on those boundaries.
Dave Chappelle. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, his LGBT joke was taking word for word for me.
I don't know if you've seen those side by sides.
No way. Bro it's like it was getting
millions of views the the comparison until my YouTube was
taken down. I wrote that joke it it started
with the ALS. You got the ALS and the ALS just
want to Knick knack and go and drive their Subaru and then he
got the G's. This is my joke.
It's like the G's are like more into like cocaine and real
estate. And then you got the B's.
The B's will fuck anyone. Anybody.
Yeah, the B's are fucking gross. Then you got the and that and
dude, the whole Caitlyn Jenner woman of the year hasn't been a
woman for a full year is in one of my specials from 2017.
And so when I did it, it was like, see, the way they gatekeep
is timing. So like, because I don't want to
sound like I'm whining. I promise I'm not.
It's a it's a powerful point when you see it.
So Caitlyn Jenner's rolled out woman of the year.
I do the joke that month. Dave Chappelle does it six years
later on Netflix. They roll out the controversy.
But it's all over now. Like all the DSM 6 was changed
genders, 40 is no longer a mental illness.
Pharmaceutical companies have made billions fucking castrating
children. It's like the scam's over.
It's kind of like people now being anti vax.
It's like, yeah, that it's done now though, you know?
And so, yeah, that's how they gatekeep it.
I didn't know that. Oh dude, it was like a whole
that Kanye said that on Alex Jones.
He was like Dave Chappelle, you stole Benjamin's joke.
Like the black people had my back.
It was like all over world star and shit.
They're like, oh man, that's cold Dave.
And I don't even think Dave stole it.
It was probably one of his writers, but it was like, so I
did all this cutting edge shit. And so I got kicked off Patreon.
I was in a lawsuit with him for two years to try and get back
on. They spent millions not letting
me back on over a me too joke where I was like, but it was
during the the psyop. I was like, I just went to the
one of these female rallies and I went up to these ladies and
I'm handing out condoms and I'm like, listen, ladies, if you're
going to make a mistake, at least be safe.
And they're like, what are you talking about?
This is about female empowerment.
I'm like, I've seen the Twitter ladies all over Twitter all day
long # me too # me too, Hey, excuse me, pound me too.
And they're like, that's a hashtag.
I'm like, no, in my world that's a pound sign.
And you all sound like a bunch of thirsty whores, right?
So it's just a joke about me not understanding.
It's a pound sign versus hashtag.
OK. They said that I was mocking the
victims of sex abuse. I'm like, no, I'm mocking the
fact that CAA, my former agency, rolled this out because Harvey
Weinstein is raping people. I'm like, I'm mocking you
fucking crazy people. And like, quote unquote, victims
of sexual abuse were like, dude, I laughed so hard at that 'cause
they were. It was a mockery of it.
And so Patreon from that tweet said said that I couldn't be on
Patreon. And I was like, but that's off
platform. And I felt like they were really
common in American freedom. So I was like, I went at Patreon
legally that there was tortuous interference and all this.
And I fought for years. That's why when I see these Ian
Carroll clowns, I'm like, you are nowhere to be found when the
fights were actually happening, you know, and, and, and some
people get famous off off just like Jew noticing and shit.
I'm like, no, I was wrapped by the biggest Jews in the world
and I called it out because they were fucking running cover for
paedophilia and I lost millions of dollars over it.
And now you're calling me a gay Jew.
I'm like, what the fuck is that? And then and then and then the
people that get it see it. And that's why my audience is so
awesome, because it's like, good.
I don't want to sound biassed, but it's like, if someone can
see how ridiculous that is, they're typically solid people.
And if someone's like, oh, oh, Owen Benjamin, that's a Jew
name. Oh, it's my middle name.
Oh well, And they don't like apologise.
I'm like, oh, so you're like a nonsense zombie.
And those people, their lives suck.
Like I've watched this for years.
Like they, they get this hubris. They think they're like winning
something. And then they just, it just all
crashes because, you know, wife really does not support liars.
I mean, what do you think is actually the point of comedy?
Pressure relief, I think comedy is almost like it's like it's
like the way that we can say the true thing out loud and know
that we're not alone that's safe.
You know it's like very important for society.
That's why I like, that's why I've like I I didn't, I had no,
when I'm watching the kings and Queens and elites of this world
trying to shut down comedy, I'm like, you guys are fucked if you
do that. Like that's that's like keeping
society going. I'm like, that's when they start
chopping heads. If you can't fucking laugh about
how nutsy people are. But their lies got so crazy.
They probably like debated it like, you know, like if these
lies come out, you know what's worse?
Or we let people joke about it. But I don't know.
I think they made a horrible call with censoring comedy
because people need that truth release.
Like if these farmers of men, like I picture the Rothschilds
almost like how I farm cows where I like, you know, I, I
move the pastures, I milk their future generations of their
milk, you know, and it's like if they want milk, they can't let
the cows all die, you know, it's like they they need high quality
people in order to fucking parasitically take from us, you
know, So I don't know what the hell they're thinking.
But I mean, what you're saying is that comedy is a type of
gauge of how free we are. Yeah, yeah.
But if they go to tyranny that it's like a clock starts before
overthrow, you know, it's like statecraft and governance is
very, very, it's like a very advanced craft.
So like if they just lock down and just are like telling us
what we have to do and we have no freedom and all this, then
their world starts falling apart because then oligarchs start
killing each other. And there's a huge history of
all of this. And they've learned this over
the years. That's why democracy is their
favourite. Because when you consent, it
like pressure releases that you blame it on the other half of
the country. Oh, it's because of Trump.
Oh, it's because of Kamala. Whatever, that way they can
still do the agenda. But like all that anger just
goes sideways. You know, red, red team, blue
team. That's why they don't care who
you vote for. It's just like vote and 'cause
if they were just to say you like the government never sent
anyone a mask. No one got a mask in the mail.
Like there was no, no one said wear this mask.
It was all consent driven. And so and so comedy is
important to, to, to give people that feeling that they're free.
Because if not, it's like the the whole system just gets
fucking annihilated. And then it's it's crazy.
There were a bunch of comedians that I quite enjoyed before the
COVID era. And naturally, I found myself
getting disappointed. Like, like the like the music
industry, you know, some of them just bent to the establishment
and I couldn't understand why they did that.
I mean, some comedians who are, you know, famous, started
ripping into those of us who are going against the ridiculous
tyranny. Yeah, yeah, there was no
consequence. They all got more movies, more
money, more everything. Yeah, they did it.
Even Bill Boo, who I think was very good.
Such a Yeah, I know it used to be funny.
That's what makes it even worse. It's like, it's like because he,
I he knows better. It's like almost worse, you
know, yeah, now they like make it seem like you're a fucking
moron if you don't want to put an experimental liquid made by
a, you know, a guy who gets awards for warring the world
population in your kids arm. It's like, and I'd I'm stubborn,
like I'm like, I will not comply.
And, and the amount of cards they have, it's all based on
comfort and money, but it's like they pull cards, you know, they
ostracise and, and all these comedian entertainers, most of
them have these like personality disorders where they need
attention and validation. So and I for some reason just
don't like, I just slipped through.
I think it was because my dad was an opera singer and a
rhetoric professor. So I was like, I was like born
to do this shit as a craft. It isn't because I have a hole
in my heart, you know, and so and so I just, I'm like, OK, you
don't like me, All right. And, like, most comedians would
spiral if, like, people were saying something bad about them
or a rumour was going around. It's like, they're the biggest
bunch of bitches in the world. They're like, that's why in
every interview they're always like, oh, working with him was
so great. Oh, I love him.
We're like best friends. Oh, yeah.
Working with Stanley Tucci, it was like, unbelievable.
Oh, working with Quentin Tarantino was unbelievable.
I'm like, really? He does coke for days online and
screams *** more than anyone in the world.
Isn't that a funny story? Oh oh how dare you on Benjamin.
I'm like OK OK, so we're all just going to play make believe.
The thing is not me. They all don't actually believe
any of the stuff that they say. They.
Believe nothing. They don't believe truth exists.
They're they're all, they're all moral relativists.
They're like, whatever is true is whatever will get them more
feed, whatever that little demon is for each different person,
you know, attention, money, praise, like whatever that is.
That's what true is. And that's why they'll change on
a dime where it's like you'll see these people one day be
calling me like Candace Owens has publicly called me an anti
semite before and she never apologised.
And then you'll just see them switch and go, oh, Frank is you
know, they're fucking eating babies.
And I'm like, hey, Candace, I was getting kicked off PayPal
when you did that with Dennis Prager, you fuck.
But it's OK, you know, good for her.
I don't think you're an anti semite I I mean from what I can
tell you've got nothing against Arabs.
Right, exactly. You know what Semite means.
That's great. Yeah.
Everything's inverted. It's like you have these white
skin Barbra Streisand looking Fox saying that it's anti
Semitic to be against that one. Semite literally means like a
group derived from the Arabic language.
Yeah, it's it's all nonsense. They're like little nonsense
kids and that's why motherhood is so important because it's
like they look to me like a three year old that never
learned how to be a human. They're just like, I'm a, you
know, like little kids can be like they're awesome, but they
can also be like little monsters.
And that's why you have to like teach them how to be good
people. And these fucking people just
never had that. And that's why they're just
like, it's right. Because in my mind I'm a
Princess. I'm like what the fuck?
I mean, what's the moral of the story?
Dude, the moral of the story is life is actually awesome and
fair and it's like focus on the good, the true, the beautiful
and have a big laugh. You know, it's like enjoy that
hearty shot that that's what's so good is coming out of the
Kanye song. I know I can make fun of the
Dick sucking cousin stuff, but it's like it's like to let
people get rid of false shame. Like people should have shame
for being cowards or not working hard or lying, you know?
But they should not have shame for their history.
Like look at South Africa like the boars have an awesome
history. It's like imagine just being
shamed for that. It's like, oh, you stole the
land. Then I have funny back and forth
with he didn't respond, but Matt Walsh was going on this rant of
about it's, it sounds good at first.
Like I'm not, I'm not even criticising McGowan.
It's like he's like people. The left is implying that white
people have no homeland anywhere and we've stolen all the land
and that nowhere on earth is white people's homeland.
And I'm like, what if it isn't? What if we're fucking angels?
It's like, what if like we are like part Angel, you know, and
it's like they're from the dirt. And then people are like, what
the fuck ought to take is that? I'm like, I don't know, I'm just
kind of rolling with like, what if the woke left is right, but
they're just mad about it. Like what if we really aren't
from here? And then people don't know how
to respond to that. I'm like, all right, two drink
minimum. Folks, pay your waitresses.
So how long before Matt Walsh leaves?
I don't know. I mean, he's really, I mean, but
see, it's like chess. Ben Shapiro needs authenticity
like a vampire needs blood. So, you know, that's why Joe
Rogan had Ian Caroline, because someone like me can see Ian
Carroll and think he's up to something.
But for Joe Rogan, that was so needed because people are not
listening to Joe like they used to.
So they need authenticity. Like because Joe was such a cock
with, you know, Jews and all that shit that Ian comes on
gives Joe credibility. And that's because he is more
interesting and he's saying stuff that's now in the
zeitgeist and people are talking about, but they can control him.
Ben Shapiro has the same problem.
It's like, does he fire Matt Walsh?
And then he's still the fastest growing conservative podcast.
It's like he's just like an empty vessel with an agenda.
And so Matt Walsh kind of pushing back and saying more
true stuff is is needed by Ben, but then there Ben has a line
where if Matt crosses it, his his funders, everybody that pays
him won't pay him. So it's a fucking dance that the
moral of the story is I'm glad I don't have to do that Babylonian
2 step anymore. You know, not that I ever did
it, but I don't even have to think about it where it's like,
well, what does my sponsor want? I'm like, I'm sponsored by the
people that listen, they pay me, you know?
But you know what is great about Joe having Ian on his show was a
few days later Joe had Douglas Murray on.
Did you see that? With Dave Smith.
Yes. Yeah, that was, that was so
fascinating. Like Douglas Murray was so
strange. He just melted.
Yeah, in my opinion, it wasn't even close.
Like the people mocking Dave Smith for that.
And I make fun of everybody. Like that's just my, my thing.
But Dave Smith smoked it. I mean, it wasn't even close.
Like Douglas Murray was like, haven't you been there?
And Dave Smith's like, what do you mean?
He's like, but you haven't been. It's like, dude, that's not a
logical argument. So if you go to Israel, you can
have and if you go to Israel and still have that opinion, they'll
just have another problem like Anna Kasparian or whatever.
Like she's fucking spent a lot of time in Gaza.
And I'm sure Douglas Murray wouldn't be like, but have you
been, he'd be like, are you funded by Qatar?
Like they're just fucking liars. You know, I, I don't know why
they'd be like, because this is what broke the spell with me
about abortion, because that was always very easy to go along
with stuff. You know, I'd be like, oh, yeah,
if a woman's like, it's her body totally like these fucking Bible
thumpers, like, I could totally go down that road.
It's when they looked pumped about it.
That's when I was like, what is this?
Because like when they got 40 week abortions passed in New
York, I, I, the spell had been broken for me before when I
first had a kid, but like, and they lit up that the Empire
State purple and they're like applauding and screaming in
euphoria. I'm like, dude, this is evil as
shit. And I see the same thing with
Gaza. It's like, you know, wars happen
conquered right of conquest is true.
You know, it's like like the boars.
I think the boars conquered that area and they have a right to
it. I I'm like, I'm not anti
violence, but it's like when you're like pumped, that's what
I'm like, I smell sulphur. I'm like this is like evil.
You know, when they're like, when they, when they're Speaking
of the of the Palestinians like. You know what?
They're taking Glee and these horrific acts of war, you know,
and that's, and that to me is, is where it's evil, you know?
How can I follow your work, Owen?
Well, little.tv for $9 unauthorised dot DV were
unauthorised dot DV. But yeah, exactly unauthorised
mean Vox day. He's a he has a great blog.
You'd love Vox. I don't know if you know Vox,
but he's he's an OG legend in a lot of these spaces.
Like he coined the term Sigma male and gamma.
Like he's the guy that like writes the book that ripples out
and then you see in a movie. But he like is in a castle in
Switzerland, you know. So me and him have worked with
an unauthorised for years when I was first kicked off YouTube.
And you know, they say, well, This is why Douglas Murray Fox
can all go to hell. They're like, oh, just make your
own website. We're like, OK, so we did and 5
bucks a month and we figured out how to pay for our own servers
and all this stuff and it was crushing.
And then we get kicked out of a bank, another payment processor
and that's to always rebuild. And so last March we got kicked
off the payment processor. Just got another one and it's
working a lot better because we have a more Direct Line now, so
we don't need the middleman like we used to.
So if people want to resubscribe to unauthorised TV, like that's
the struggle Ian Carroll will never have to face because of a
sweet Freddie Mercury fucking moustache.
And also add Owen Benjamin on Twitter.
For whatever reason, Twitter's like open for business, so I'm
grateful for that. Owen benjamin.com.
I also teach a piano class, which is I really enjoy just
doing something outside of space and just something like healthy
courses.owenbenjamin.com. And yeah, Oh yeah.
And I have my own social media app that's all clean like an
uplifting and about farming and homesteading.
That's the Bertari at Times app wherever you get your apps.
Thanks for having me bro, Appreciate it.