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Brothers dot uki. Mean admittedly, you did get a a
taste of my irritability over the the technical thing.
Actually, if you want to, if you want to know the essence of me,
it's basically that I'm never happier than when taking the
piss. You're making our cause look
ridiculous. I'm like, oh, well, if Paul is
dead, then there's really no point trying to pretend he's
not. I think I was like, a kind of
like a, like a sleeper agent. I didn't know it.
I think, I think, I think this was, I think God.
God decided this was going to be my my role.
It's funny in it, how life, the things that we do in life, the
elaborate things that we do. Well, it's funny.
We were having that conversation.
Well, unfortunately it's not. It's not what I want.
It doesn't make me happy. What, sitting here while we're?
For the technology, it really, I, I mean, I don't want to be a
difficult customer, but if you want to get the best out of me,
it's really not not a good way of I've kind of had enough
already, is what I'm thinking. Yeah, yeah.
Stop. Right.
So we're just talking off camera a little bit.
When we first met at Hope, not that you'd remember, but I
remember meeting you and your brother and that was Hope
Festival back in 2021, I think, maybe 2020.
It feels like another age. Yeah, just isn't it the amount
of growth, I suppose that we could say that that we've all
gone through in different ways? Yeah, well, it was like starting
at a new school and these are these are the people you'll be
these are your classmates and the people in your house and
you're going to have to get to know them.
These are these are your new set of friends.
And I think for a lot of us, it was very unexpected.
We, a lot of us were new to all this that I mean, I was I, I, I
until not long before that I, I've been a normie to all
intents and. Places.
Yeah, yeah. I, I I wouldn't have understood
what you meant by the term normie because I thought I was
pretty. I mean, I wasn't afraid to, to
even at that stage to destroy my, my conventional career by,
by speaking out about things like climate change.
Yeah, yeah. So that was quite that was like.
Oh, I was definitely, I was definitely head of the game.
I mean, I've just done a a podcast with with my friend
Dominic Frisbee. Oh.
You know, Dominic? And Dominic said the problem
with you, James, is you're too early.
You're too early on things. It's like it's like in the in
the stock markets, it's being too early is not good.
And knowing knowing that the stock is going to shoot up or or
or or collapse, there's no use if you get your timing wrong
other. Scenarios as well where it's not
very useful, isn't it? You.
Can talk about that later. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But but yeah. So it wasn't as though I was
unaware that the establishment, the conventional world is not,
is not to be trusted. But I hadn't realized the degree
to which this extended from the world of so-called climate
science, which is not, is not science, to everything, to
history, to medicine, to everything that was.
That was a thing that I hadn't realized.
And I met this new crowd of people who became It was like
meeting the best friends I I never knew I had.
It was, isn't it? For a lot of people here, it
was. It was very strange to find
people that you could just have eye contact with and sort of
feel open with without any of the guard that perhaps we've,
you know, got used to having with of.
Course. Well, I've always been a I've
always been quite frank. I've always been.
I've always been very open with myself that, that when I, when
I, when I meet, there's a sort of English things that a lot of
English people have been trained to do or do instinctively, which
is there's this reserve they, they hold something back.
I never bothered with that stuff.
I've never, I've never. But it, I suppose it is quite an
English of me. I'm straight in there.
What you see is what you get. I don't think I don't think the
version of me you see when you first meet me is significantly
different from the from the one where I mean, admittedly, you
did get a a taste of my irritability over the the
technical thing I. Can sympathise.
It's just that you found you found my weakness.
I absolutely loathe technology and I loathe things that require
tinkering and mechanics and electronics and just it's never
been of any interest to me. I've just been.
I have a very low boredom threshold and if it interests me
I can spend days lifetime doing it, but if it doesn't I don't
want to know. But even in that situation where
you you could been completely passive, do you find it tricky
to be passive? Could you, could you say you
couldn't just sit and sort of meditate on the what you you're
sort of irritated by proxy because we were getting
frustrated with the tech? I just thought, just get on with
it. Can we just do it?
I mean, that's always been my policy with my podcast.
I, I, there are definitely the occasional technical flaw in, in
my podcasts And I kind of think what I, it's not the bit that
interests me. The bit that interests me is the
chat. Sure, I'm good at the chat.
I can do. I can, I can.
I can chat for England. That's handy.
Which is. Why I'm very happy in my, in my
skin generally, as long as I'm doing what I like doing, like
being on a horse or doing podcasts or hanging with people
that I can talk, talk to about this stuff.
Which is what going back, which is what was great about that,
that Hope Festival, that one didn't have to edit oneself.
Not that I do edit myself generally, but it was nice to be
with people where it it. Wasn't even an option it.
Wasn't even an option. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, because I, I think we, we do even, you know, however,
however comfortable we are with expressing our opinions about
things you do for for the for the sake of progress in a way,
one sort of tempers the the approach or you, you, you, you,
you change your approach accordingly.
You know what battle you're fighting to some extent.
You know, see, you don't just bludgeon in with someone who's
completely oblivious to the agenda with, you know, some far
out you, you have to judge it, don't you?
To some extent. It is.
It is the curse of anyone who is awake that you have to approach
every encounter as if you're in entering hostile territory.
You have to you, you have to be a bit sensitive.
Yeah, you're right. I mean, even I, I, I love, I
love sort of shocking people with my outrageous opinions.
I like, I like, I like getting. Actually, if you want to, if you
want to know the essence of me, it's basically that I'm never
happier than when taking the piss.
And my parents are the same. It's very, very bizarre and
maybe it's a Midlands thing, I don't know.
But my mother is a piss taker, My father is a piss taker.
I mean, I live in a family of piss takers.
So it was kind of inevitable that I was going to do something
when it which ended up me taking the piss.
But I what I didn't, I was, I was, I wasn't going to be doing
all just a kind of individual level.
I was going to be taking the piss of the whole world of the
paradigm. I mean, that's what's been
brilliant about these times for me, discovering that the whole,
the entire paradigm, everything that most people think about the
world to be true is bollocks. And I can now say it's bollocks.
I could be the little boy, he says.
The Emperor's wearing no players, which is, which has
always been what I enjoyed doing, yeah.
Do you think there's a, a, a, a danger at times for us to
perhaps fall for what I might call the second matrix kind of
ideas? Because we're, we're sort of so
enamoured with this idea of throwing a grenade into the
established, kind of, you know, that we, that we, we sometimes
fall prey to not being perhaps as cautious in terms of
defining. The Yeah, I don't think so.
No, but maybe that's your problem.
I don't think I'm I'm, I consider I'm on a journey and I
just want to find out what what's true and what's not true.
Yeah. And.
That's easy to say. Then I'm I'm very happy to to
change my opinions with with new evidence.
So for example, I'm not very sold on tart area.
I think it's, I think it's a great idea.
I like the idea that there was this whole region of, I mean,
I'm of course I'm aware there's a place called Tartary.
There. Was even a poem about it if I
were Lord of Tartary myself and me alone.
But I'm not quite there on the all all big buildings are
transmission devices for amazing power.
Like like show me you persuade me more give me.
Same with mud floods and things. Same with but.
I suppose that's, that's what I mean in a way.
You know, I, I, I have friends, you know who I can see they've
woken up and then they'll sort of grab everything.
Liked Atari without perhaps looking for real evidence, you
know, And I suppose that's all I mean is that that can then play
into the hands of the agenda because you know it.
I'm. Muddy's the water, so to me.
I'm more worried about people being what I call purple pilled.
I've not heard that one. Well, because obviously because
I I coined it and you don't you don't listen to my podcast
enough, but or or or read the pieces I read about this.
So, but basically it's that OK, people, they go down the rabbit
hole, they, they, they discover that astonishingly, the
government is not their friend and that the medics are not
there to save their lives. They're actually, they had to,
to administer this poison on the, on behalf of the, the, the
Pharmaceutical industry and, and Biggie generally.
And so they notionally, they wake up, but they realise that
this, this new world they live in is quite a discomforting one
because their friends will no longer talk to them.
They can't relate. They can't have the
conversations they used to have. They can't, they can't, they can
barely read the newspapers anymore and they find it
uncomfortable. And they want to re establish a
link sort of to have a, a connection with the, with the
old world as a kind of comfort blanket to show that they're not
as isolated as they feel. And I think that's a bigger
mistake because what they do is they then say, well, they start
pointing themselves gatekeepers of which narratives are true,
which are untrue. So they say, look, it's
perfectly, it's perfectly acceptable to question the
safety and the efficacy of, of of the vaccine.
But when you talk about Paul is dead, say all outlandish
conspiracies like that, you're, you're making our cause look
ridiculous. I'm like, oh, well, if Paul is
dead, then there's really no point trying to pretend he's
not. It's just you're, you're, you're
actually doing the cause of disservice because ultimately
our only watchword should be the truth.
We're on the mission to find out truth.
The truth is holy. The truth is an expression of
God. And if we start making excuses
as to why this or that area should remain beyond, beyond
inquiry, then I think we're doing ourselves a disservice.
In fact, we're, we're creating our own form of it's a form of
self censorship and I've never been into that.
Yeah. Yeah, I definitely agree that
truth is holy and there shouldn't be anything that we
can't question. I mean, that's say with, with
the Holocaust, you know, that's, I always used to say if you go
to, if you're sent to prison for questioning something, that's
the thing you should be questioning.
So I think so, yeah. Yeah.
You know, I'm not saying I'm not saying one one way or the other
conclusion wise, but it, you know, if something is, is is
illegal to question that that raises a red well.
I think I, I can't remember whether it was, I called it
Dalingpole's first law or Dalingpole's Second law.
I guess I'm quite sort of sketchy about these, these,
these phrases like I, I invent them and then I forget about
them or forget the context. But one thing I've definitely
discovered is the more that the culture insists on something
being true, and the more it's kind of it's, it's forced on our
consciousness, the less likely it is to be true, the more
likely it's to be done. So for example, everyone knows
what happened to the Titanic. There was even a film made about
it called A Night to Remember. Like they didn't want you to
forget any more than they wanted you to forget the 5th of
November. Remember, remember the 5th of
November. And it seems to me that all the
thing, all the big historical events that we're told about us
and we're invited to feel strongly about are fake in some
way there or or at least the version of events you're being
sold sold is it is false. So you think about the epochal
events in our lives, the ones that we everyone, everyone
knows. Apparently everyone can remember
where they were when they heard the news that that Kennedy was
shot. The, the the alert signal should
be going off. It's bollocks.
Then it's bollocks. Moon landings.
I, when I was a little boy, I encouraged my father to get his
petrol from Shell garages because Shell had this special
display thing with, with these coins, these moon landing coins.
And I wanted all that I wanted the full set of the moon landing
coins. Well, why was Shell doing that?
Well, obviously the, the, the, the, the lying system wants,
wants to reinforce the narrative.
So everyone's in on it at a certain level, whether it's the
oil, oil companies and the obviously the movie industry,
the TV, they're all, they're all part of things.
But you could argue that if, let's say it was genuine and
wouldn't a big company want to get in on the ACT anyway,
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Yeah, yeah. Well, I think that's one of the
ways, that the way that people are persuaded to bind to the,
the deception, there's always an explanation, there's always a
rational explanation for the normies and the norm is
satisfied with that. So yeah, you'd think, well, of
course petrol stations are going to market this big event.
Of course they are. And of course it in this case,
it wouldn't require, say, whoever was head of the shell at
the time to, to. No, no, no.
I suppose what I'm saying is that that our culture reinforces
that these narratives at every level, which is why it's so hard
to persuade people that they're being had, because everything,
everything reinforces that that this particular view they have
of the world. Yeah, sure.
Yeah. I don't think there's any
question that, that the main thrust of, of, of societies is
acceptance of conventional wisdom.
You know, there's, there's very, there's very little in our
education system which, you know, encourages free thinking,
no questioning. The the rewards for buying into
the narrative. I'm I'm a classic product of
that system. I was, I was really good at
school. I was top of a lot of my
subjects because I, well, like quite learning stuff.
Yeah, I was good at general knowledge.
And then I got a place at Smart University that everyone wants
to get into and this is how. And then then after that, the
next step is obviously a good job, get in banking or whatever.
I'm sure that most of my Oxford contemporaries are earning way,
way more than me because they've been given, they've been given a
place as it's a bit like the Babylonian court say, say you've
got presumably the Babylonian royal family, but just below
that you've got the, the, the administrators, the people
who've been selected, they've, they've gone through the
process. So that's your reward when you
learn your stuff. And you, you, you accept the
narrative, they will pay you. And if you if you don't, then
you get ostracized and isolated and, and punished financially
and punished in terms of, well, in all sorts of ways that
everyone is awake has experienced that, that, that you
can no longer you're no longer part of the general discourse.
Yeah. You're an outsider.
So go and just mention your childhood or your upbringing
school. It's a hot it's come up quite a
bit. And the whole idea of class, you
know, you've written about class, haven't you?
And. Yeah.
Not class. Classes I I don't know.
I don't know what this thing class is that you.
Yeah, I thought it might, might throw you a bit.
Sure, it shocked me. Do people speak in this way?
I, I believe so. In the provinces, yeah, yeah,
yeah. But, you know, it's, I, I think
it's still a fascinating topic because it's particularly in
England, I think. But it does also relate to the
structure of the agenda. You know, so so for example,
your upbringing is more, you had more of an you will have had
more of an insight into and and had, you know, a closer
connection to some of the people who might be.
Illuminati. No, Yeah, yeah.
But you know, people who? Who basic close to the top of
the pyramid Let's. Put it that way, my Illuminati
adjacent upbringing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm fucking all the books. Here I I find it absolutely
hilarious because I mean, nobody who's posh would think of me as
posh. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm common,
really common as much in, in as much as my family is
industrialist stock rather than landed, landed Gentry.
Yeah, I definitely had relative to the most of the population.
I had a privileged upbringing, you know, I mean, we, we had
nice family holidays and and I was educated privately.
And the the Oxford thing was I totally deserved for being
clever. I worked for that.
There was that even then it was, it was not guaranteed that you'd
get in. I don't, I think they made a big
mistake in letting me in because basically they, they let in
somebody who was going to betray the system.
They wanted me to be one of them.
And, and instead I, I think I was like a kind of like a like a
sleeper agent. I didn't know it.
I think, I think, I think this was, I think God, God decided
this was going to be my, my role.
But but as you know, we, we in our circles and in the broader
sense of the, the awake movement, although I, I don't
know what that means, but but like, yeah, people who awake,
you'll get these characters who, who, who say, Oh yeah, James
Sterling, Paul's like he's a, he's a controlled opposition or.
Yeah, with literally every anyone there.
Yeah, there's literally anyone. Oh, oh, totally.
But and and you find different reasons for doing so.
And the one the one they use with me is, well, like, he's
just like so establishment. And he was friends with two
future prime ministers. I I wasn't alluding to that,
but. No, but I'm, but I find it quite
amusing. I, I, I wasn't, I wasn't really
trying to defend myself from a point you weren't making.
It was more that it's quite interesting, isn't it, that the
people who are awake, they come from all classes and, and, and
backgrounds. It's it's not A and I think that
we're all bringing different things to the party.
So what I bring to the party into Aliyah is that I had an
inside view of, of well, the, the lives and behaviour of
people who would go on to become these high, high tier
administrators in the Babylonian court.
Presumably, I thought I must have, I must have met people who
are actual Illuminati. Although how would you know?
I mean, I'm, I'm still trying to work, work out how it works, but
I suspect that it's has something to do with split
personalities. So you, for example, could be
member of the Illuminati and, and one of your, one of your
personalities is Jake Fern artist.
And then because you've been, because you've been buggered at
the right age by your, by your controllers, you've got this,
the trauma has has created this, this multiple personalities and
your, your Jake Fern personality is just like amiable and good at
painting and and stuff. But then you've got this other
one, which, which, which comes out when you're sacrificing your
children or whatever to, to Satan.
I think. I think that's how it works.
You do? Yeah.
Yeah, interesting. So you wouldn't know.
So it's like I, I used to, I used to do, I used to do
interview movie stars and pop stars and things.
I remember doing an interview with with Tom Hanks once.
Oh, OK. I'm thinking he's one of the
nicest blokes I've ever met. He's just so calming.
And but you have to remember Tom Hanks is an actor.
He's many things beside that, but he's he's an actor.
And so I don't, you can't tell. I think you, you have to be, I
think your default position has to be suspicious.
Like who do I trust? Like I trust my brothers and
sisters, maybe a few others, but I'm just always open to
possibility that that that. Takes a sleeper agent.
Yeah, well, Dick, Dick, Dick sometimes thinks wrong things on
things and I have to put him right.
I, I think, I think no, I think Dick probably is a not a sleeper
agent, right? Yeah, when I was trying to sort
of understand what was going on, it was the psychology that
interested me more than necessarily the the mechanics.
Yeah, the mechanics, the details of that.
And that's when I started to get this sense of what that world
and how, how other that world. Is, it's interesting, Yeah.
It's really good that Bob has corroborated what I'm about to
say, which is that I spent what, 2025 years working in the
mainstream media and I did occasionally appeared on the
BBCI made made a documentary once for Channel 4.
I was columnist the Times, the Telegraph.
There wasn't there wasn't a moment when I thought, hang on a
second, I'm part of an evil lie machine.
There were, there weren't just wasn't.
I would just getting on and doing my thing and I think
people find that hard to believe.
You must have known. Well.
Why? I mean, I suppose I was aware
that some of my feature ideas got would get shot down.
I not used but some of my ideas. Actually, I, I tended not to
think of my own ideas because it's easier when when your
editors give you give you an idea, you know, you haven't got
to sell it to them. But, but that said, I never
wrote, I would never write a piece that I didn't agree with
already. So it wasn't like I was being
coerced into having opinions in order to earn my living.
But but again, that's that in a way is how the system works.
They have designated edgy right wing contrarian characters and
designated left wing. They've got Owen Jones on
standby and they've got all those Guardian people that we
mock. And I didn't think a lot of them
are aware that they are these these Punch and Judy characters.
They're just they they think that they're autonomous and that
they have their own opinions. Yeah, sure.
I think they'd have to to pull it off.
You know, this idea that they're all aware and conscious of their
role in it, just to me, seems absurd.
Yeah. It's a very clever system, which
is why it is has endured for so long.
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basically, And it's what I wanted at the time.
And these things they have to do involve moral compromises.
They got so into the occult stuff that I think really bad
shit started happening to them. And I bought, I so bought into
it at the time. And I know, I think, yeah, but
it's all bollocks. They didn't even write their
stuff. And I thought, well, it's kind
of great. We're going to go on stage and
he's going to explain it all to me and right but he but he
couldn't. What are your opinions on Flat
Earth? Oh, I think that is a SIOP.
That's my opinion, yeah. And I get called the NASA shell,
you know, like. So no, I I'd call you a globe
tard. Yeah.
Of course you would. Yeah, yeah, as I, as I've been
called many times, yeah. A favourable gloss you're
putting on what is essentially a form of gatekeeping because by
because by saying beneficial, you're making a value judgement.
For me. Yeah, well, that is a very
judgement. Yeah, but for me it's that's how
I. See it?
Yeah. So I mean, I don't care.
What anyone does that is a form of gatekeeping.
I don't have the authority to gatekeep anyone.
You don't. No, it's true.
But but. So if people, if people want to
take my opinion as some kind of authority, then that's their
problem, James. Yes, here's a yes.
Show me. No, what I need to do is OK.
Oh, it looks very much like me. Oh, it does.
Although there was worrying, worrying elements of of of
Prince. Was it called the?
I don't know, Prince. Prince.
What's the one who's going to be King Charming?
No. The, the evil.
The the, the William. No.
It looks really like me. You've done a brilliant job.