1 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,760 Good afternoon. It's just gone 1:00 on Monday 2 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,680 the 13th of October 2025. Welcome to UK column News. 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,480 I'm your host, Charles Mallett, and I'm joined in the studio 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,720 today by Ben Rubin. Welcome to the programme, Ben. 5 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,120 Thank you, Charles. Good. 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,840 And on the live link from Somerset we have Sandy Adams. 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,800 Now today we'll be taking a closer look at the attack on 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,080 home education, perhaps I should say the continued attack via the 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,680 Schools and Well Being Bill. We'll take a take a look at a 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,720 report on what's come out of the lot of last week's apolitical 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,760 day, as well as some further scrutiny into the relationship 12 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,800 between the Community Security Trust and the police. 13 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:48,160 We'll also be examining Michael Bloomberg and the Behavioural 14 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:52,240 Insights teams meddling in local government, as well as the 15 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,920 incessant promotion of United Nations Sustainable Development 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,280 Goals in schools. But we will start with the story 17 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,560 of the hour, which is the situation in Gaza. 18 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,520 And of course, it was not even a fortnight ago that the Red Cross 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,560 announced that it was withdrawing personnel from Gaza 20 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,680 City due to what they described as the intensification of 21 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,120 military operations. They wrote that in Gaza City 22 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,720 today, civilians are being killed, forcibly displaced, made 23 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,160 to endure dire conditions. Their statement went on to say 24 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:29,280 that a cessation of hostilities is imperative and urgent, and 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,320 under international humanitarian law, civilians must be protected 26 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,360 whether they stay or leave Gaza City. 27 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,840 Israel, as the occupying power, has an obligation to ensure 28 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:44,320 their basic needs are met. Now, this is the same Red Cross, 29 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:47,960 of course, this morning, which was charged with the running the 30 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,240 process of handing over hostages, Israeli hostages back 31 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:56,520 to Israel, process which is reported as now being complete. 32 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:01,360 And indeed, Donald Trump either is or has been addressing the 33 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,840 Israeli parliament rather remarkably. 34 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,880 And of course, I have to skim somewhat on the details because 35 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,880 it has literally just happened. But he received a standing 36 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,680 ovation for telling the Knesset that his daughter had converted 37 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,240 to Judaism. So the the mood was a strange 1. 38 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,920 And I, and I think to illustrate this extraordinary gulf between 39 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,760 the way in which it's being discussed and the reality of 40 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,480 life on the ground for the people in Gaza, we'll listen to 41 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,000 what Donald Trump had to say before he flew to Israel 42 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,880 yesterday. This is a very special event. 43 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:38,120 They had 500,000 people yesterday and today in Israel 44 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,520 and also the Muslim and Arab countries are all cheering. 45 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,640 Everybody's cheering at one time. 46 00:02:43,640 --> 00:02:46,960 That's never happened before. Usually if if you have one 47 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,840 cheering, the other isn't, the other is the opposite. 48 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:54,600 This is the first time everybody is amazed and they're thrilled 49 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,440 and it's an honour to be involved and we're going to have 50 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,880 an amazing time and it's going to be something that's never, 51 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,640 never happened before. So I'll see you on the plane and 52 00:03:04,640 --> 00:03:06,360 we're going to have a good time, OK? 53 00:03:08,920 --> 00:03:11,200 There we are, Trump the saviour. He's nailed it again. 54 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:15,880 And he seems to be absorbed only in his perception of the effect 55 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,560 that he has had on a situation. And he did actually say that 56 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:24,520 we're going to have a good time. But back to the events of this 57 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,840 morning. The Red Cross states on Twitter 58 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,080 that we hope this marks the beginning of a sustained 59 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,840 commitment to the recovery and long term stability, starting 60 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,880 with the immediate and unimpeded delivery of essential aid into 61 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,400 Gaza and the release of all the remaining hostages. 62 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,920 Now handover of course marks the start of a swarm of 63 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,200 international activity as the gravy train pulls out of the 64 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,200 station. The Prime Minister's Office has 65 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,280 put out a statement at the so called peace summit in Egypt, 66 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,840 saying among other things, the Prime Minister pledges UK 67 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,400 leadership in Gaza's reconstruction effort. 68 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,400 Sorry, in Gaza's reconstruction at historic Egyptian peace 69 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,040 summit. And they go on to say the Prime 70 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,160 Minister will attend the signing ceremony of the Gaza peace plan, 71 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,960 marking A historic milestone for the region after two years of 72 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,760 conflict and suffering. Of course, we'll come back to 73 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,680 that particular point. They go on to say he's expected 74 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,880 to commit the UK government to playing a leading role to 75 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,480 accelerate Gaza's reconstruction, working with 76 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,240 international partners. Now we're getting slightly 77 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,680 closer to the mark and a £20 million humanitarian aid package 78 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,800 will deliver essential water, sanitation and hygiene services 79 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,760 to 10s of thousands of civilians across Gaza. 80 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,760 One might consider that after two years of sitting on their 81 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,760 hands implicitly and at times explicitly supporting a 82 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,080 genocide, the British administration declares that 83 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,960 it's not going to miss out on the lucrative opportunities 84 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,320 presented by this next phase of the operation, described very 85 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,760 euphemistically as reconstruction. 86 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,320 The document goes on to say that the 20 million support forms 87 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:03,440 part of the UK's broader 116,000,000 LB aid commitment to 88 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,400 the Palestinian people this year, including 74,000,000 89 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,160 already allocated for life saving assistance and so forth. 90 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,680 Now for context, and of course I'm not intending to make a 91 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,960 direct comparison at all, but the United Kingdom has committed 92 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,760 more than £5 billion to Ukraine in what's described as non 93 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:25,000 lethal aid. Dishing out the opportunities 94 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,080 for investing in this process will start this afternoon. 95 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,160 And we'll just finish with one of the closing remarks in that 96 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,400 statement, which of course is the aim of how best to mobilise 97 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,000 private sector resources to address the scale of 98 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,440 reconstruction required after more than two years of conflict 99 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,960 of damaged or destroyed 92% of homes. 100 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,440 And it is to Wilton Park that we go. 101 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:56,080 The Wilton Park Summit organised due to start this afternoon and 102 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,840 now it describes itself as an executive agency of the Foreign, 103 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:02,040 Commonwealth and Development Office. 104 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,480 And they say the UK Wilton Park Summit will bring together a 105 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,240 coalition of representatives from businesses, civil society 106 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,040 and governments to convene crucial planning and 107 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,920 coordination efforts for post war Gaza. 108 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:19,440 Now, if you've been following the the sort of train of 109 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,400 sentiment so far, you'll you'll consider that it seems very much 110 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,600 like an afterthought. There's then finally a reference 111 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,160 to the involvement of the Palestinian people who've not 112 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:28,800 yet been considered in any of this. 113 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,040 But the state statement does say discussions will also cover 114 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,760 efforts to support the Palestinian Authority's own 115 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,400 transformation and reform programme to ensure it can 116 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,880 support Gaza's recovery. And then bear in mind the title 117 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,920 of the statement in the 1st place, with Starmer apparently 118 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,160 playing a leading role. It goes on to say that 119 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,400 reconstruction will be a Palestinian LED will be 120 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,600 Palestinian LED with absolutely no role for Hamas in its future 121 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,200 governance. So it seems that little doubt 122 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:02,200 can remain about who the real winners will turn out to be. 123 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,960 And I quote the conference will be attended by a range of 124 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,480 international partners, including Germany, Italy, Saudi 125 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,520 Arabia, Jordan and the Palestinian Authority, as well 126 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,280 as private sector and International Development 127 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,920 finance and financiers, including the European Bank for 128 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,400 Reconstruction and Development and the World Bank. 129 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:28,800 Now Starmer is, as I say, has has quoted that figure of saying 130 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:34,080 that 9092% of homes have been either damaged or destroyed 131 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,280 during this period. And the only response from the 132 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,120 United Kingdom really seems to be to push bankers to the fore. 133 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,600 Yvette Cooper also weighing in, saying that of the UK has to 134 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,520 play a crucial part and that they are again bringing in 135 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,280 investment from the City of London to support 136 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,440 reconstruction. So it seems that with pounds and 137 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,640 dollars at the forefront of the minds of all the self declared 138 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,800 peacemakers, it's hard to consider that this latest 139 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,960 development is anything but something that should be 140 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:08,000 regarded with a huge degree of suspicion and scepticism. 141 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,560 And and just to close out even Chatham House in this article, 142 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,880 can the Trump peace plan for Gaza succeed? 143 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,760 Forced to conclude with the some might say, blindingly obvious 144 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,760 statement, which is that however even highly focused and 145 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,200 successful delivery of the missions aims will not disguise 146 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,880 the fact that it does not really address the Palestinian right to 147 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,840 self determination. Now, there's going to be 148 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:36,600 obviously a lot more to come out on this, certainly even as today 149 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,880 progresses, but one might consider that things do not bode 150 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,920 well despite all the glad handing that's going on within 151 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,320 and without the Trump entourage. Now Sandy, we are going to look 152 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,920 now to you to get the latest on the children's well being in 153 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,680 schools Bill and exactly what it's going to set out to, to 154 00:08:56,680 --> 00:08:58,480 change particularly for the home educators. 155 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,440 Thank you, Charles. Yes well, the Children's Well 156 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,480 being in schools Bill, it hasn't been passed yet because it's 157 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,120 between the committee and the report stage in the Lords as of 158 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,720 last week on the 9th of October, it still contains serious 159 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,880 concerns about parental rights and children's rights actually 160 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:21,200 state data sharing and educational freedom. 161 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,280 And now is a key moment really for parents to act, to write, 162 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,600 speak and make their voices heard before this becomes law. 163 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,080 It'll ping pong around, you know, umm, uh, between the 164 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:36,000 Commons and, and the Lords until it gets royal assent and it's 165 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:40,960 only got uh, like 3 stages now before it gets to royal assent. 166 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,960 So we, we do need to act fast if we, if we're going to do 167 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,720 something about this. In short, the bill is live, but 168 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,280 not finished. It's falls between stages and 169 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,160 it's a great time to, to become aware of what, what's going on. 170 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,720 Now this, umm, uh, there's this, uh, this editorial called the 171 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,040 home daily and they, they are flagging up some real concerns 172 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,040 about this. If you, I, I've put everything 173 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,920 in the show notes for you to catch up on this. 174 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:13,360 So, um, yeah, it's it, you know, the, the, the, the provisos of 175 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:18,200 this bill, the key provisions of it, it would create a, a 176 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,800 consistent unique identifier for each child, which is virtually 177 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,080 digital ID. It would enable across across 178 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,960 agency flow of information of welfare, health and safeguarding 179 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,560 issues, strength and duties to local authorities, health 180 00:10:33,560 --> 00:10:37,600 agencies, police, schools, police schools and etcetera to 181 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:42,520 share safeguarding D data, a compulsory register of children 182 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,840 who are not enrolled in schools. And it, it really is, it's a 183 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:52,560 standardisation of all the curriculums in schools, which is 184 00:10:52,560 --> 00:10:56,400 is not favouring, you know, the academies because they've done a 185 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,960 lot of work on this and it's also caps on branded items of 186 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,280 school uniform. So, but the main, the main 187 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:09,720 problems are really the if, if, if you want to dig a bit deeper, 188 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,160 the bill shifts authority from parents to the state and beneath 189 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,000 the language of safeguarding and well being, it's it threatens 190 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,440 family autonomy and privacy. Is erosion of parental lights a 191 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,880 threat to educational freedom, Data harvesting, which actually 192 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:29,600 in the Lord's in, in Hansard, only one Lord really mentions 193 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,040 this and we'll get on to him in a minute. 194 00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:36,000 Uh, a criminalisation of parents and the risks to vulnerable 195 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,720 families. So umm, the, the, the, the Lord 196 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,240 who did speak up about data surveillance and umm, parental 197 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:48,320 rights on, on, on home schooling was umm, uh, Baron way of 198 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,960 Shoreditch. And he's an interesting chap 199 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,880 because he, umm, he, he actually was involved with Cameron, with 200 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,680 big society, uh, with so social entrepreneurship and all that 201 00:11:58,680 --> 00:12:01,960 sort of thing, which is a bit on the commutarian side for my 202 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,320 liking. But on this issue, he, he 203 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,800 really, really stands out. He's a a conservative, he's a 204 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,960 Christian and we'll just listen to what he has to say because he 205 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,160 says on on the on the quote here. 206 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:19,080 My Lords, it is with heavy heart that I rise to speak today, 207 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,560 heavy because the legislation before us cuts to the very the 208 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:26,880 fabric of democratic society. So let's just listen to him in 209 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,120 the House of Lords from Hansard. Thank you. 210 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:36,560 See on every state funded primary school to introduce free 211 00:12:36,560 --> 00:12:39,640 breakfast, making them accessible to all children 212 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,080 regardless of background. Breakfast clubs have proven 213 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,680 benefits. They boost attendance, improve 214 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:49,520 academic attainment and enhance children's social and an 215 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:53,800 emotional well being. However, access remains 216 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,640 fragmented. Despite the good work of the 217 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,480 National Schools Breakfast programme. 218 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:03,840 It reaches only around 2000 primary schools, covering only a 219 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:08,640 fraction of those in need and funding only 75% of the cost of 220 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,240 food and delivering delivery, leaving schools to cover staff 221 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,480 wages and other expenses. This bill goes further than 222 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,040 simply expanding the existing programme, it makes a 223 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:23,600 fundamental shift in how we support children's education and 224 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,480 well being. From April, 750 schools across 225 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,920 all nine regions, including 45 special schools, have led the 226 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,880 way in free daily breakfast clubs, saving parents up to £450 227 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,840 a year. Early adopters will be part of a 228 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,160 test to learn phase to strengthen delivery of national 229 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,520 roll out. We will learn what works and 230 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,560 develop the programme, and this Bill will ensure that the 231 00:13:48,560 --> 00:13:54,880 opportunities provided. Sorry that that wasn't the hard 232 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,760 way. I don't know what happened 233 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,320 there. But yeah, that that there is a 234 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:04,760 really there's a 2 minute clip of him speaking about this and 235 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,720 that unfortunately isn't it. So never mind, we'll have to 236 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,480 catch up on that another time. Thank you. 237 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,280 Thanks, Andy. I mean, you're welcome to sort 238 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,840 of summarise what it is that he did say if you'd like to do that 239 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:20,600 now, if you can remember enough of what he said or I. 240 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,000 Mean, yes, I'll try and remember what he said. 241 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,800 Hang on a SEC. Let me just see. 242 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,800 Let me just, yeah, bring this up. 243 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,320 Yeah. Well really he, he, he, he went 244 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,040 into the fact that it's an erosion of parental rights. 245 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,400 The bill treats all parents as potential risks by forcing every 246 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,920 home educated child to be registered with local 247 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,960 authorities. Every withdrawal request would 248 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,720 be assessed under safeguarding framework, meaning every parent 249 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,480 is subjected to a risk assessment. 250 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,640 Local authorities could issue school attendance orders. 251 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:06,120 He basically is saying that this it would effectively the state 252 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,480 would would dictate what counts as acceptable education. 253 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,240 Home educators would be required to meet improved standards 254 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,440 making child LED faith based based or creative learning 255 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,480 harder to defend. Academics would lose freedom of 256 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,760 to innovate data harvesting. The bill proposes a unique 257 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,160 identify. He does flag that one up for 258 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:32,520 every child and expanded powers for agencies to share personal 259 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,080 data. Such centralised databases risk 260 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,280 leaks, wrongful interventions and long term profiling. 261 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:44,400 It's criminalising parents and it's it's got risks for 262 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,240 vulnerable families and he thinks it's a a step too far. 263 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,760 It undermines responsible parents, criminalises home 264 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,000 education and turns local authorities into enforcers 265 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,480 instead of supporters. And I totally agree with him on 266 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,400 that score. Thank you. 267 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,720 Thanks very much, Andy. And I think as reported on 268 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,360 before on on exactly this issue, but the the bill itself, the the 269 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:07,960 critical issue is how it's being done. 270 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,640 And of course, it it's very easy in a sense to present the case 271 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,200 for there being a problem with children who can't be educated 272 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,800 or have their needs met by formal education system. 273 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,080 And therefore they're taken out of it home educated and bingo, 274 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,840 you've got your problem child. And therefore the reason for for 275 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,240 having a register in order that the state can intervene and make 276 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,240 sure that nothing goes wrong. And it's a most insidious way of 277 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,160 doing it. And of course, to cast such a 278 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,520 wide net over such an enormous number of people who are home 279 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:42,080 educating is utterly immoral. But you can see exactly why it's 280 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:43,360 being done. Sandy, thank you very much 281 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,920 indeed for that. Now we're going to go to other 282 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,240 things which are not quite perhaps as they seem, but we 283 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:49,880 were talking just before the programme started. 284 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,720 What's been going on at Church House then? 285 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,600 Nothing very churchy, unfortunately. 286 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,520 Yeah, quite predictable, yes. We're going to look at the 287 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:04,200 ongoing subversion of national governance and its replacements 288 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,720 with a new global system that runs on a completely different 289 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:13,280 programme, a completely different agenda, and has thus 290 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,079 far escaped any kind of serious democratic or even just basic 291 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:19,119 public scrutiny, as far as I can tell. 292 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,760 We talked a lot about this organisation, Apolitical and 293 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,359 this will be the focus of this first section. 294 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,240 And just to remind our regular viewers and introduce new 295 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,840 viewers, this is an organisation that has been set up to build 296 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,160 21st century governments. It's what they do. 297 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,840 They work with the government departments, foundations, 298 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,240 academic institutions, think tanks, NGOs and businesses to 299 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,800 bring the latest knowledge and skills to government in order to 300 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,560 transform government. Is a key partner of the Cabinet 301 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,240 Office. You can see down the left hand 302 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,400 side there that he's operating internationally, very heavily 303 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,560 linked into the World Economic Forum. 304 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,360 In fact, the apolitical Global Public Leaders programme was 305 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:06,240 delivered in partnership with the World Economic Forum of 306 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,240 Young Global Leaders. So they are completely hand in 307 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,280 glove. They are international, they 308 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:16,440 have global impact in over 170 countries operating essentially 309 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:21,440 out of London as a hub for this neo imperial system that's being 310 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,080 established. And I think there's probably a 311 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,640 good way to describe it. This is a new empire running on 312 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:32,080 the rails of the old British Empire, which is essentially 313 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:38,080 pushed the nation state down into second position. 314 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,600 So this is no longer British or English even. 315 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,720 This is global and detached from the national system completely. 316 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,600 So actually whenever we see happening on a daily basis, 317 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,480 whether it's Kier Starmer or Kemi Badenoch or Nigel Farage or 318 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,680 Zach Polanski, any of these kind of national political leaders 319 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,640 effectively redundant as this thing is being rolled out in the 320 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,200 background. This is what's been going on for 321 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,560 for quite some time now for for for over a decade actually in 322 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,520 this organisation. If we could just get that back 323 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,720 up. It's run by Lisa Witter. 324 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,440 You see her in the top right hand side there. 325 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,600 We'll provide links. So there's plenty of videos you 326 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,360 can go and see to get some more information about these people. 327 00:19:18,360 --> 00:19:20,840 So there's Lisa Witter and actually if we put her centre 328 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:25,200 frame, we can see her alongside Pooja Warrior Hamilton on the 329 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,520 left, Robin Scott on the right hand side. 330 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,280 These three ladies, all young global leaders of the World 331 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,360 Economic Forum running this organisation, operating on a 332 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:37,920 remit to transform global governments everywhere. 333 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,800 And who asked them to do that? It was this fella. 334 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,960 That's Adam Parr. And last year, a political day 335 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,840 which was held in October last year, he regaled us with the 336 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,040 story about when Lisa, Robin and I went for a walk in France in 337 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,200 2015. And I asked him to do something 338 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,920 pretty much impossible, which is to transform government globally 339 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,680 in about a decade, which at the time I think Brian and I were 340 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,440 quite confused about. Which is essentially to say, who 341 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:08,640 is this guy and how does he get to ask that question and how do 342 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,560 they get to accept that invitation and begin that 343 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:12,680 process? Right. 344 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,160 And we're now in the business end because 2015 for keen 345 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,720 observers will know. That was 10 years ago, he said, 346 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,440 transformed government in a decade. 347 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,640 So they're right into the mix here. 348 00:20:23,360 --> 00:20:26,040 And last year, you will remember. 349 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,560 And again, we'll provide links to this The Catherine Day, who 350 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,160 is a senior civil servant. She actually runs Foresight at 351 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,080 the Cabinet Office essentially revealed to us that she she has 352 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,720 no foresight and essentially admitted that. 353 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,280 And this is a paraphrase, not a direct quote. 354 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,960 We have no idea what we're doing. 355 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,240 And then Robin Scott on the left there from a political doing her 356 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,120 ice queen saying that she does basically say, I'm going to take 357 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:53,480 you for everything that you have. 358 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,120 And that's what's been going on in the background for over a 359 00:20:57,120 --> 00:21:02,480 year now. And they have reconvened last 360 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,200 week at Church House, as, as Charles pointed out, for a 361 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,120 political day 2025. And a big announcement came out 362 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:10,480 of this. But let's just first of all, 363 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,480 quickly look at some of the people in the room who are 364 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,680 leading this conversation from this year's event, right? 365 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,600 So they're there to talk about the future of government. 366 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,840 That's what they're doing this to the brief that they've set 367 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,640 themselves. Interestingly, by the way, there 368 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,360 was no live stream this year. I like to think that I had 369 00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:28,480 something to do with that because we gave them a bit of a 370 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,800 hard time last year. Maybe it'll pop up in the next 371 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,400 few days, I don't know, but it certainly didn't go out live. 372 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,720 But we do know who was there. So General Sir Nick Carter, 373 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,920 former head of the UK armed forces, guy that ran 77th 374 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,120 Brigade during Covic, now works at the Blair Foundation. 375 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,880 Also Varelia Ionian, the deputy minister of digital 376 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,680 transformation of Ukraine, who actually spoke about two weeks 377 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,640 ago. She's part of this trilateral 378 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,400 UK, Estonia, Ukraine partnership to deliver the digital identity 379 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,520 scheme. She's absolutely in the mix 380 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,000 here. Also some European royalty, His 381 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,160 Royal Highness, I think I'm saying that. 382 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,600 Is it gem or Jamie? Not sure. 383 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:10,760 Jim de Bourbon at the Palm, wonderful name describes himself 384 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,640 as climate envoy of the Netherlands, but he's a Dutch 385 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,080 Prince and actually grandson of the man who set up and chaired 386 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:21,200 the Bilderberg meetings. So top tier connections here. 387 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,200 Also mark Boris Andrew Janich, former minister of digital 388 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,880 transformation in Slovenia, also a member of the Global future 389 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,120 Council on Gov tech and digital public infrastructure at the 390 00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:34,600 World Economic Forum. Also a young global leader of 391 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,040 the World Economic Forum. Also there Mariano Matsukoto, 392 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,480 who's a professor at UCL. It's very famous clip of her a 393 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,920 World Economic Forum event describing how she wants to use 394 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,160 water as a means to to control humanity. 395 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,360 So this is the kind of the tone of of what's going on inside 396 00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:56,520 these these discussions. Also Siobhan Haviland, CBE, 397 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,120 director general of the British Chambers of Commerce, she 398 00:22:59,120 --> 00:23:02,040 actually established a political in the Cabinet Office, took 399 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,880 personal responsibility for that. 400 00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:07,400 And last year she was crowing about the apolitical business 401 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,680 model, essentially saying it's fantastic that they've built a 402 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,600 monopoly position in government transformation and kind of 403 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,080 presenting that to us as a good thing and a positive thing when 404 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,840 it really isn't. It's good for people who want to 405 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,840 monopolise wealth and power, like I'm guessing Siobhan 406 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,280 Havilland and certainly the royal family, who she's very 407 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,120 close to. I believe she's very close to 408 00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:31,880 Queen Camilla in particular. Also Lord Case, head of the 409 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,520 civil service during COVID. So she'd probably be in front of 410 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,440 a war times tribunal rather than attending events like this. 411 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,880 And then finally, although there were many other speakers, I'll 412 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,120 just draw attention to Lord Reece OBE, the former mayor of 413 00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:48,760 Bristol, who apparently, according to someone who was 414 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,480 there, delivered the best quote of the day, which is nostalgia 415 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,080 for the past feeds off an absence of vision for the 416 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,440 future, which I think is probably quite revealing given 417 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:02,120 that they don't actually have a clear vision for the future of 418 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,400 the country. None of them can articulate 1 419 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,600 and that is the problem ultimately, and it's why they 420 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,160 keep on having these highfaluting events and 421 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,680 announcing these big international programmes. 422 00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:19,080 And this year was no different. Catherine Day took to LinkedIn 423 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,760 to talk about the joy that she had on the day. 424 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,880 If you're watching back, you can pause this, you can read the 425 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,840 whole thing yourself. But to get to the fact, to the 426 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,160 to the point, essentially they're building an institute 427 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,800 for the nation. A new, independent, apolitical 428 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,920 and lasting way for the UK to plan and act together for the 429 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:42,040 long term, across sectors, generations and divides in our 430 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,680 shared interests for our common good. 431 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,720 And the prize is huge. A country that can think long 432 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,400 term and act together. A society with a future we can 433 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,680 all believe in and an example that the world can follow. 434 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,280 Showing that the UK is actually a test case for global 435 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,320 governance. They can do it here. 436 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,240 They're then going to export that everywhere else. 437 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:11,120 Importantly, we can respond to this and there is an appeal for 438 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:16,480 help to build the institute and we'll provide a link to this. 439 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,120 And essentially they're saying the first major initiative will 440 00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:24,360 be a national dialogue launching in spring 2026. 441 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:28,400 This is Auk wide deliberation. So this will be a controlled 442 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,480 deliberative process using Delphi technique that we speak 443 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,040 about a lot on the column. They're going to engage millions 444 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,560 of people apparently, and then turn that into a plan for 445 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,000 lasting action. And we need your help to make 446 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,840 that happen. Whatever your background and 447 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,600 business, academia, civil society, technology, etcetera, 448 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,400 etcetera, every offer of time, funding, skills, connections or 449 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,040 support brings us closer to launching the national dialogue 450 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,600 and building a stronger future together. 451 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,640 So apparently they want people to chip in money for this. 452 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,040 All seems very odd, but you can go and tell them what you think. 453 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,840 So be polite, but be clear about the fact that this is 454 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:09,000 extraordinarily inappropriate and probably that they shouldn't 455 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,360 be doing it. I think that would be. 456 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:12,720 That would be my take on it anyway. 457 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,560 I don't think you'd find much disagreement with the people 458 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,960 that have just listened to that. The question that pops out is 459 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,480 who do they think they are? Well. 460 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,160 Yes. Well, it's one of the questions 461 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,120 I guess, Ben, thank you very much indeed for that. 462 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,480 No, I think that segment articulates perfectly the 463 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:34,000 resource that UK column is to not just the UK column audience 464 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,040 in a regular sense, but also those that are looking to 465 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,080 research things elsewhere. So can I encourage you when you 466 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,560 are trying to work out why something is happening and 467 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,640 indeed where it's come from, to go straight to the UK column 468 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,640 website where you can use the search function. 469 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,560 I've shown the response to search for the word biometric 470 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:56,080 and there is absolute host of material to to go through. 471 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,400 So it is a very, very important resource for people who are or 472 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,200 are not yet familiar with the column. 473 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,440 Now, of course, we cannot do what we do without your 474 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,200 financial support. So if you are considering 475 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,800 becoming a member and keeping us afloat, then that would be 476 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,640 terrific. There is a very easy way to do 477 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,040 that by going to the front page of the website. 478 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,120 And also don't forget that you can support us by means of 479 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:22,640 buying any of these wonderful items from are shops. 480 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,560 So please do also have a look there. 481 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,440 Now going out on the German warfare platform tonight. 7:00 482 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:33,160 Pepe Escobar speaking to Jerem on the importance of bricks and 483 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,760 not the sort that you might be building with, but that should 484 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,080 be an excellent one. And also, I now go on with a 485 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,240 with a slight apology. I'm afraid Patrick Annington's 486 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:47,160 talk from the hope event back in August was meant to go out on 487 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,360 Thursday just gone. I'm afraid it didn't for reasons 488 00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:53,440 that I won't necessarily go into because I think I'm qualified 489 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,760 to, but it will go out tomorrow at 1:00. 490 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,680 And apologies for anybody who was who was waiting for it to go 491 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,800 out on Thursday last week. Now, Sandy, tell us back to 492 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,200 earth. You're, you're going to be going 493 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,040 up up to the north of England next month. 494 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,160 Yes, I am. Um, because the North, you know, 495 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,160 they're quite unrepresented, really not unrepresented, but 496 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,960 they don't get as much of, of our, our sort of input as the 497 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,880 South. So this ones called back to 498 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,240 Earth. It's in, uh, Bedale, at the 499 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,720 water mill in Bedale on Saturday, the 15th of November. 500 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,840 And it's rediscovering balance through soil, soul and 501 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,720 schooling. But we're also looking at, you 502 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,560 know, the world's regenerative agriculture, animal and human, 503 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,680 integrative medicine and classroom free education. 504 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,040 So it's about the stuff that I've been speaking about today. 505 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,880 But a lot of the farmers, I was asked to go up there because a 506 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,800 lot of the farmers still aren't getting what Agenda 2030 really 507 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,120 will mean to their livelihoods. So that's why I'm going up 508 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,840 there. Fantastic Sandy, thank you very 509 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,520 much. And obviously if anyone can get 510 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,720 up there, please do because it will be I'm sure a very positive 511 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,480 day with with with lots of productive outcome. 512 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,760 Now the moment is very nearly upon us. 513 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,800 I can hardly believe it, but our live event in York is getting 514 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,880 underway this Saturday the 18th of October. 515 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,360 Again, as you will know, all tickets are sold out for the in 516 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,680 person event, but that does not stop you from signing up to the 517 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,320 live stream. And again to remind you that but 518 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,360 if you buy a ticket to the live stream, you don't have to watch 519 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,840 it at the at exactly that moment, it will be available 520 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,240 afterwards. It will also be available to 521 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,960 people who've bought in person tickets as well. 522 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,960 And it includes access to Andy Wakefield's incredible film 523 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,520 Protocol 7. And just quickly to run through 524 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,400 the speakers we have, we've got Andrew Wakefield coming. 525 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,880 He will be talking about the making of Protocol 7, as well as 526 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,880 how his career was derailed after he questioned the process 527 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,920 by which vaccines are made. Tess Laurie, who has set up the 528 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,520 World Council for Health and Background to that, Liz Evans on 529 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,000 the very murky world of medical ethics. 530 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,320 And we've got Sir Julian Rose on the critical relationship 531 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,720 between human health and the soil. 532 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,160 But also speaking this Saturday, it's Ben Rubin. 533 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,360 Ben, what are you going to be talking about? 534 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,920 You just say medical ethics. I said medical. 535 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,680 Ethics. An obviously moron it is. 536 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,760 I'm going to talk about the NHS, what we thought it was, what it 537 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,880 actually is, how that happened and what to do about it. 538 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,240 Perfect. So please do go to the UK column 539 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,320 website and to the shop where you'll find a ticket for the 540 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,240 live stream. Also, if you do have an in 541 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,320 person ticket, may I remind you that registration will be open 542 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:33,680 on the Friday in the event space that that we'll be holding the 543 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,040 day. So it'll start at 6:00 on Friday 544 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,000 evening and run until 8:30 on Friday. 545 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,760 So it would make things a lot easier on Saturday morning. 546 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,320 So if you are able to do that, please do. 547 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,840 You will also get an email about it with all the necessary 548 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,560 details. Now, that takes us back to 549 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,560 Sandy. And you're going to tell us 550 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,640 about the way in which the United Nations are continuing to 551 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,080 muscle their way into children's classrooms. 552 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:04,720 Yes, I mean, this is called the, the, the, the largest lesson in 553 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,320 the world's largest lesson. And it's a, it's a, it's a way 554 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,880 of this was launched over 10 years ago, but it's ongoing. 555 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,320 And it's a, it's a, an instrument that they use in in 556 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,960 primary schools for teachers as well as children to really 557 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,640 indoctrinate them into climate change and the, and the 17 558 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,720 goals. So let's listen to the the the 559 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,200 the promotional video that they teach to children. 560 00:31:32,640 --> 00:32:39,800 Thank you. None. 561 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:32,440 Back. I so that's, that's it. 562 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,320 It's, it's really, you know, telling the children that the 17 563 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,800 goals are really good, wonderful thing that will, will actually 564 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,520 improve inequality. Now we've had 10 years of 17 565 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,560 goals and they've done the exact opposite. 566 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,640 So I just want to flag up. Yeah, they've, they've, they've 567 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,640 now got the 2025 Global Goals toolkit. 568 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,560 Actually, they've, they've launched now somebody got in 569 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,240 touch with me because their child is, is being given all 570 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,360 this stuff at school through the teachers. 571 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,320 The teachers are going along with it. 572 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,880 Now what I noticed that the, the, the, the whole thing is 573 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,600 produced by project Everyone. And if you look at Project 574 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:16,440 Everyone, you'll realise that actually it's it's got some very 575 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,920 interesting partners. And yeah, here we go. 576 00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:22,719 They're lead partners are Bill Bill and Melinda Gates 577 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,360 Foundation and Open Society Foundation, which is George 578 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,400 Soros's Open Society. And then they've got some 579 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,400 partners which are Pricewaterhouse, Cooper, the 580 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,679 Rockefeller Foundation, TikTok, UNICEF, as well as they've, 581 00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:46,080 they've got some supporters. The supporters are that. 582 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,719 Can we see the supporters? Yeah, they, they think they've 583 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,159 gone as well. Sorry. 584 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:58,800 So, yeah, we've got obviously C40 cities, you know, the, the, 585 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,200 all of these different supporters who are all part of 586 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:08,120 the global agenda. So yeah, the next one is I just 587 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,960 wanted to flag up that that obviously this is all about 588 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,200 quality education, which is goal 4, which they say is to ensure 589 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,040 inclusive and equitable quality education and promote lifelong 590 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,880 learning opportunities, opportunities for all. 591 00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:27,840 But actually in reality, I've got a slide from my website, 592 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:32,240 which is education will be remote online, lifelong training 593 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:35,360 in STEM. That's science, technology, 594 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,320 engineering and mathematics accredited with blockchain. 595 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,720 Micro badges, non fungible tokens and credentials on the 596 00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:46,560 blockchain, social reputation and score. 597 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,080 So it's almost like a social credit system. 598 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,400 Children's outcomes determined from birth and AI guided Biomet 599 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,600 biometrically, social and emotional learning, profiling, 600 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,880 creating the perfect global citizen. 601 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,560 That's what it's all about. And that's what I notice in this 602 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,240 new bill that they're bringing in and STEM education as as I 603 00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:10,640 mentioned before, science technology in engineering and 604 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,280 mathematics. So what is presented as 605 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,640 something really wonderful is, has actually got a different 606 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,880 meaning. Creating perfect compliant 607 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,640 global citizens. That's what it's about. 608 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,880 Absolutely right. Sandy, you're very much on the 609 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,160 mark there. And I think the the way in which 610 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,320 the sort of proof can be found in the eating is that if you 611 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,840 speak, if you do have the opportunity to speak to 612 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,520 somebody, a child who's in the school system, it will 613 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,040 absolutely be quite clear how these influences are affecting 614 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,640 themselves. And of course, if, if you don't 615 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,360 know children necessarily of that age, then speaking to the 616 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,760 parents is, is, is just as illustrative because of course, 617 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,280 this stuff does flow uphill as well. 618 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,280 And it's quite remarkable, the way in which it's it's pervaded 619 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,880 the mind. Now with regard to meddling, 620 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,640 where we shouldn't really be having meddling. 621 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,640 We're going to talk about, well, Michael Bloomberg among others, 622 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,800 I think, aren't we? Yes, well, it's just amazing how 623 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,440 all these things link together, right? 624 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,400 So that was, that was really fascinating. 625 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,680 Sandy, thanks for that. And you highlighted a couple of 626 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,600 organisations at the end there, but projects everyone. 627 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,920 By the way, that's run by Kate Garvey, who was Blair's former 628 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,920 diary secretary in #10 and it's very closely linked into Freud 629 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,880 communication, who were on the partner list and Gold's House 630 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,080 and all these other things that we speak about on a regular 631 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,880 basis. And you also mentioned C40 632 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,320 cities. C40 cities, the global network 633 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,160 of metro mares, which is overseen by as President Michael 634 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,560 Bloomberg. And we're going to hear a little 635 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,720 bit now about his innovation teams that he funds in mayor's 636 00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:48,440 offices around the world. Cities are growing. 637 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,600 Half the people in the world live in cities. 638 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,680 Pretty soon 2/3 will live in the cities. 639 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,960 Cities are incapable of taking care of that growth unless they 640 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,120 change and do new things. What we're trying to do is to 641 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,960 help governments all over the world to try something that's 642 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,640 new outside the box. The Innovation Teams programme 643 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,720 is one of the first things that we started here at Bloomberg 644 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,560 Philanthropies. We fund staff to work for a 645 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,000 mayor to really serve as an in house consultancy within city 646 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,520 government. They are focused on 647 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,680 experimentation, R&D. Using design to expand the way 648 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,080 that we're thinking about what's possible, I teams inject those 649 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,360 new ways of thinking into city halls to help them dream bigger 650 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:35,680 can create better solutions. I Teams. 651 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,360 Sounds great, doesn't it? So there we have Michael 652 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,920 Bloomberg saying cities are inevitable essentially, but 653 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,640 they're also incapable of dealing with their own 654 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,160 inevitability. The fact that we're going to 655 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,480 have 2/3 of the world's population in cities, 656 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,760 apparently. So he's funding these innovation 657 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,080 teams to work as in house consultancies to interject new 658 00:38:56,080 --> 00:39:00,160 ways of of thinking into city halls, initially in the US. 659 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,360 So they started in 2012 in Memphis. 660 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,200 It's now a global programme. And last week, Mr Bloomberg 661 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,400 touched down the Serpentine Gallery in Hyde Park in central 662 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:17,200 London and the great and the good, or maybe they're not quite 663 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,960 so good, Not sure We're there to listen to him speaking. 664 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,960 We had Lord Vasey, who helped establish Ofcom. 665 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,200 Tracy Brabin, the mayor of West Yorkshire, who's absolutely in 666 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,840 this metro mayor scheme. Also, Brent Hoberman, the chief 667 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,520 executive of Founders Fund, who's also a World Economic 668 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,400 Forum, young global leader, Baroness Reebok, who's the chief 669 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,760 executive of Penguin Random House, one of the biggest 670 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,200 publishing companies on Earth, and also the mother of Georgia 671 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,640 Gold, former mayor of Camden, now runs the Cabinet Office. 672 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,040 They're all there, amongst others. 673 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:50,160 To hear Mike Bloomberg speaking about a $50 million investment 674 00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:54,200 that he's putting into Europe to support 30 European mayors and 675 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,400 60 city leaders in this development process, in this 676 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,520 innovation process, the transformation into a new 677 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:07,040 digitally connected global system of governance. 678 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,800 Controlled in large part by supposedly philanthropic 679 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,600 philanthropic wealth. So I've handed down or injected 680 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:20,720 down into the system by people like Michael Bloomberg and into 681 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:24,480 institutions importantly like the London School of Economics. 682 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,640 So this is a key partner for the programme. 683 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,160 You can see here it's talking about the European City 684 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,640 Leadership Initiative, and this is Bloomberg LSE. 685 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,760 They've got a joint logo at the top there, Strategic 686 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:41,400 Partnership, obviously LSE, founded by the Fabian Society. 687 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,640 They, they put in a bunch of money in order to fund 688 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,080 propaganda. That's what the LSE was set up 689 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,560 to do, to do to deliver propaganda for Fabian Ames. 690 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,760 And who better to come and speak at this first event than Sadiq 691 00:40:53,760 --> 00:41:00,280 Khan who is the Co chair of C46. He's working under Michael 692 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,600 Bloomberg and also on the executive committee of the 693 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,120 Fabian Society. And sometimes he has time to be 694 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,120 Mayor of London as well. Whether he's doing a good job of 695 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,520 that or not, I wouldn't care to comment right now. 696 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,520 And these pics came from Claudia Chalice who was also there. 697 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,640 There she is on the right hand side, who is the founder of 698 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,320 Democracy Next. And she was there to answer the 699 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,520 question, how do we strengthen citizens trust in government? 700 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:32,080 Governments trust in citizens and citizens trust between one 701 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,200 another. And they say this quite a lot 702 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,040 and it always does make me wonder why on earth we should be 703 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,000 concerned about where the governments trust their 704 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,520 citizens. It's got nothing to do with 705 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,520 them. It's about we, we have to trust 706 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:45,920 them. But it doesn't go back the other 707 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,120 way. That's not the way that the 708 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,640 relationship works. But unfortunately, that's what's 709 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,440 what's kind of imbued this whole discussion. 710 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,520 If we just drop that back on screen quickly, we can see she 711 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,720 was talking about this permanent citizens assembly in Paris, 712 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,960 which they've established where they are already using 713 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,000 assemblies in order to, to, to, to define and implement 714 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,240 legislation. Yeah. 715 00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:09,880 So this is something that is happening. 716 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,960 They've done it in Paris. They've done it in Ireland, 717 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,680 they're even doing it A at a global level around COP and 718 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,600 around the UN, right. So these these deliberative 719 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,480 processes which are very tightly controlled and stage managed 720 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,560 pseudo democratic decision making processes that she's been 721 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:31,320 pioneering are absolutely at the centre of how these systems are 722 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,160 working, are going to work in the future unless we do 723 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,360 something about it. And I was rather tickled 724 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,560 recently to hear her talking on another interview about what her 725 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,880 actual thoughts are on democracy. 726 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,360 And we've got a little clip here which we can listen to now. 727 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,320 There's been a notion that legitimacy has been equated to 728 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,960 how many numbers and how many people are participating based 729 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,040 on the lens through which we tend to view it through our 730 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,080 existing electoral and representative institutions of 731 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,920 what we think about as democracy today. 732 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,400 But there's no reason to think that the only thing from which 733 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,760 legitimacy stems from is numbers, so. 734 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,920 Do you hear that? There's no reason to think that 735 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,800 legitimacy comes from numbers in democratic processes. 736 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,760 All right, she's running this whole programme. 737 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,880 She's been invited to talk at the LSE alongside Sadiq Khan, 738 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,320 funded by Michael Michael Bloomberg. 739 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,600 And this is essentially what we're looking at here. 740 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,040 They talk a great game about democracy, but actually this is 741 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:38,000 technocracy, tyranny, ultimately with a very thin veneer of 742 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,800 democratic process layered over the top, right? 743 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,480 This is completely unsurprising because as we've mentioned, this 744 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,400 thing is being completely embedded into the Metro Mare 745 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,560 scheme. And when we were asked to vote 746 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,160 on the Metro Mare scheme, the devolution in England, it was 747 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,440 soundly rejected. So if we go back to 2004, we can 748 00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:01,160 see here's a clip from some of the the reporting on as the 749 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,840 results came in from the referendum for devolution in the 750 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:11,760 North East and it was rejected. 78% said no to 22% saying yes. 751 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,840 And what did the Labour government do? 752 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,600 They cancelled all the subsequent referendums. 753 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,560 This is a total humiliation for Blair, for Prescott, for this 754 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,360 whole agenda. And when it was rejected by the 755 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,160 by the populace, they just said, well, tough, we're going to do 756 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,560 it anyway. And that's exactly what's been 757 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,680 going on, right? So none of this has ever been 758 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,080 voted on. When it was voted on briefly 759 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,160 thickened over 20 years ago now, we said no, but they've 760 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,360 proceeded. And this isn't just theoretical. 761 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,480 It's actually rolling out because as we've talked about, 762 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,160 there are millions of dollars coming into this from 763 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,760 international billionaires and Oliver Coppard. 764 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,840 We can see here who is the mayor of South Yorkshire, who is also 765 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,920 at that Ben at the Serpentine, his advertising roles in his 766 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,360 administration overseen by the Behavioural Insights team, 767 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:03,840 right? So the Behavioural Insights Team 768 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,640 and Nestor are administering this money being put down into 769 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:14,280 the UK mayoral system as part of the Bloomberg Philanthropies I 770 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,200 Team programme with the aim ultimately they say, of what 771 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:22,800 have we got here? Implementing solutions to 772 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,600 pressing local challenges, deploying data, collecting 773 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,800 insight, collaborating across sectors to develop resident 774 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,120 centres. Interventions that improve 775 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,760 people's lives for your own good, whether you like it or 776 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,960 not. Yeah, just keep calling it 777 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,240 democracy. A little bit. 778 00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:42,600 Exactly. So it seems, and thank you very 779 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,200 much indeed. Now we're going to move on to a 780 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,120 subject that was covered a little bit in the news last 781 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,640 week. Of course, the events that took 782 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,200 place at the Heaton Park Synagogue in Manchester have 783 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,440 raised the profile of the Community Security Trust. 784 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,280 Brian Garish talking about this last Monday and it brings out a 785 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,640 number of concerns, not least with regard to the relationship 786 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,480 between the police and the Home Office, or at least the 787 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,000 relationship between the CST, the police and the Home Office. 788 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:14,920 Now on their pinned post on X, which is what Twitter was, it 789 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,800 makes specific regard to security notice for the UK 790 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,680 Jewish community. And I'll just pull out the the 791 00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,520 highlighted text with the underlying text there saying a 792 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,600 security notice for the UK Jewish community and talk about 793 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,920 everybody having a part to play, looking out for suspicious 794 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,640 activity and reporting it immediately to security 795 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:36,720 personnel, police and CST as though in some ways they are to 796 00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:39,360 be regarded as equivalent organisations. 797 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:44,240 Now, of course in in that the CST has what it describes as 798 00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:48,240 being a responsibility for the physical security of Jewish 799 00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:50,680 people. Fair enough to an extent, 800 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,440 although there's very strong inference that police are there 801 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,720 to deal with an incident because the people are Jewish rather 802 00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:03,120 than in spite of being Jewish. Now there's also the suggestion 803 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,800 that they're on an equal footing, which of course is not 804 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,920 the case, although problematic in that police do have certain 805 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,680 powers whereas those working for the Community Security Trust do 806 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,760 not. The relationship between the two 807 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,320 is certainly unique. CST, you may not be aware, but 808 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,920 they are the only organisation in the country which conduct 809 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,080 joint patrols with police. And of course, as I say, if 810 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,880 they're not holding any powers, it's hard to see how the 811 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,960 operational independence of police isn't challenged by this, 812 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:37,000 since police would have to act on behalf of the CST which has 813 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,600 the specific task, as I say, of providing physical security, but 814 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:45,480 only for the Jewish community. So there are a number of areas 815 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,960 in which that there are problems with the the way in which not 816 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,600 just the relationship is set up in the 1st place, but the way 817 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,680 that it actually gets conducted in effect on the ground. 818 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:59,200 Now it goes back to 2015 and I've got the statement from the 819 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,960 National Police Chief's Council from the 25th of March of that 820 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:07,320 year, which concerns data sharing between police, the CST 821 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,080 and an organisation called Tell Mama, which I'll come on to talk 822 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,880 about. John Mann MP. 823 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,920 He was then chair of the all party Parliamentary group to 824 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,440 combat anti semitism, said at the time data sharing between 825 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,480 the police and the CST allows the UK to boast one of, if not 826 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,640 the best data set on anti semitism in the world. 827 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,360 Now I'll come back to why exactly that's significant. 828 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,920 The CST website on the police partnership slide, which we just 829 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,760 looked at a moment ago, it says that the CST works closely with 830 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,400 police at regional, local and national levels to help protect 831 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,320 Jewish communities. This includes joint patrols, as 832 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,040 I say, training classes, exercises, exchange of anti 833 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,840 Semitic incident data and numerous advisory roles. 834 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,600 We're also proud to assist in the work of the police in 835 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,800 tackling hate crime and preventing terrorism now. 836 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,880 Specifically on what they describe as involvement with 837 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,320 Parliament. They say they work with members 838 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,320 of Parliament from all the main political parties and regularly 839 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,800 meet government ministers and opposition spokespeople to 840 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,720 discuss anti semitism, racism, extremism and terrorism. 841 00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:16,720 Now with this in mind, it can't really be regarded as 842 00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:21,680 coincidence that in 2015 David Cameron's speech to the CST came 843 00:49:21,720 --> 00:49:25,080 only a few days before announcement about the sharing 844 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,240 of data. And we'll just look at a couple 845 00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:28,440 of things that he said during that speech. 846 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,880 First of all, I want the CST to have a state of the art Mission 847 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,720 Control centre with closed circuit television command and 848 00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:38,160 control and the ability to respond rapidly to those who 849 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,560 need their help right across our Jewish communities. 850 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:46,120 Now I make the point again that they do not have any powers over 851 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,880 and above that those of an ordinary citizen. 852 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,680 He went on to say. I will always stand up for the 853 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,880 right of Israel to defend its citizens, right enshrined in 854 00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,400 international law, in natural justice and fundamental 855 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,360 morality. And interesting of course, 856 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,480 considering what's happened in the intervening 10 years. 857 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,440 Now the next point to make is that prior to this, the 858 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,320 Community Security Trusts had published what they called a 859 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:16,280 Guide to Fighting Hate Crime for the Home Office and in doing so 860 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,720 effectively took ownership of the very notion of a hate crime. 861 00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:24,920 And I'll just remind you what the definition is and how 862 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,840 entirely exposed it is to subjective interpretation. 863 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,960 Any criminal offence which is perceived by the victim or any 864 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:38,120 other person to be motivated by hostility or prejudice based on 865 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,280 a person's religion or perceived religion. 866 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,440 Now they've completely stripped away the element of intent. 867 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,880 And since 2023, most notably, there's been a very well 868 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:53,400 orchestrated push to conflate anti Zionism with anti Semitism. 869 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:58,640 And it's this video on the CST website which I would say does 870 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,640 exactly that. We just have a listen to this. 871 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,320 So when people talk about the Zionists without qualifying what 872 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,720 they mean, they're generalising about most Jews. 873 00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:12,080 And it's dangerous because generalising about the vast 874 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,360 majority of any minority group will lead to racism. 875 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,760 But that doesn't mean that criticising Zionism is racist. 876 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,720 If you said to me, listen, I think that the Zionist movement 877 00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:24,680 had terrible consequences for the Palestinian people, I might 878 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,800 say, well, so do I. Another Jewish person might feel 879 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,840 totally different. In short, you can assume as much 880 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,840 about someone who says they're a Zionist as you can by their 881 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:39,120 favourite TV show Love Island. You're a genocidal monster. 882 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,600 But what's this all got to do with learning how to be an anti 883 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,320 semite? Well, you can very quickly 884 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,520 expand the type and variety of the terms you use for Jew. 885 00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,600 You can start with plain old Zionist, but why not give Zio a 886 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,560 go? Or if you really want to piss 887 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,840 them off, try Zio Nazi to be really offensive. 888 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,840 Something else you can do is use Zionism to accuse a British Jew 889 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,520 of not being truly British because they support the 890 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,480 existence of a Jewish state. It's dead racist. 891 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,880 And instead of saying that Jews are running the world, you could 892 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,680 say that Zionism is a secret global power structure that 893 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,680 conspires to manipulate governments, cause wars, 894 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,320 destabilise countries, and incites hatred between 895 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,120 communities. Now don't let me tell you how to 896 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,320 be an anti Semite. You should feel free to 897 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:24,960 experiment. If you're wondering whether 898 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,760 something is legitimate criticism of Israel or whether 899 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,880 it's slips into anti semitism, just take an anti Semitic 900 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,360 statement. Swap the word Jew for Zionists 901 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,920 and see how it sounds. For example, if this sentence is 902 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,560 anti Semitic, Jews run the banks and control the global financial 903 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,920 markets, then so is this. Zionists run the bank and 904 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,680 control the global financial markets. 905 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,080 Jews control the media. Zionists control the media. 906 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,040 Jews created ISIS and are behind global terrorism. 907 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,040 Zionists created ISIS and are behind global terrorism. 908 00:52:55,440 --> 00:53:01,000 We're very busy. A remarkable reframing exercise 909 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:05,440 there under a very thin veil of humour, but that is indeed on 910 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,240 the Community Security Trust website. 911 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,520 Now the other thing to point out is that they fund and assume 912 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,320 some control over the organisation which records 913 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:19,880 Islamophobia, incidents of Islamophobia tell Mama, and this 914 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,360 was in the data sharing agreement which I showed 915 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,160 earlier. This comes under their heading 916 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,600 of, of helping other communities. 917 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:32,360 And indeed, they say that the, the, the initiative is to 918 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,560 measure and combat anti Muslim hate crimes. 919 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,800 And referring to the, to the hate crime booklet that I've 920 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,800 just referenced, tell Mama themselves, of course, talk 921 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,640 about having people who are non Muslim as their patrons and 922 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:51,480 various Advisory Board members. So in effect, the community 923 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,440 community security trust taking ownership of, of almost all 924 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,240 incidents of what it's describing as hate crime, which 925 00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:00,960 of course is very significant. Now it's more data for them, 926 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,520 although they're not necessarily so keen themselves on sharing 927 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,240 information. The Charity Commission website 928 00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:13,480 shows that there is no trustee information available for this 929 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,960 particular charity. I should also point out the 930 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,760 government funding for the CST went up dramatically last year 931 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:22,320 in response to what was reported as a dramatic increase in hate 932 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,640 crime. These hate crimes of course, are 933 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,800 recorded and curated by the CST itself. 934 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,720 So there are a number of serious issues here, I think, not least 935 00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:32,880 concerning the operational independence of police. 936 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,720 And I would just leave you with the suggestion that you might 937 00:54:35,720 --> 00:54:38,520 like to read an ask that I wrote nearly two years ago about the 938 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,600 way in which police were being manipulated to achieve exactly 939 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,440 these sorts of outcomes. Now, Sandy, my apologies, I've 940 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,600 overrun slightly, but we're now going to go to in a way what 941 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,840 might be regarded as slightly bizarre relationship between the 942 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:55,720 lions and eyesight tests and biometric data. 943 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,160 Yes, I mean, I was quite amazed at this. 944 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:04,920 A parent flagged this up to me last week and you know, we've 945 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:10,040 got, we've got the International Lions charity and, uh, they, 946 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,720 they're, they're partnering up. Um, they're, they're, they're 947 00:55:13,720 --> 00:55:18,360 going into schools and, uh, testing children's eyesight. 948 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,000 Um, as it's almost like a, it's a mission thing that, you know, 949 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,400 they're, they're going to help, um, help children's eyesight 950 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,560 throughout the UK. Um, and uh, can I just flag up 951 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,680 the, the next slide? Yeah, it's a clearer future for 952 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,280 every child. So they're, they're testing 953 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,680 children's eyesight basically, which all sounds very worthy and 954 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,920 wonderful until you realise that this isn't just a, a charity 955 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,360 initiative in the UK, it's actually a global initiative. 956 00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:51,000 And you've got the equivalent is the the Lions Kids site in the 957 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,960 USA. Now if you dig a little bit 958 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:59,040 deeper, you realise that this is even bigger because it's got 959 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,120 companies, they've got, they're partnered up with Johnson and 960 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:07,720 Johnson with the world, the World Health Organisation, many, 961 00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:11,720 many, many partners worldwide. And you realise that this is 962 00:56:11,720 --> 00:56:14,840 actually quite interesting because the, the person that got 963 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,960 in touch with me was worried about biometric data, you know, 964 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,760 iris, you know, scans, all that sort of thing. 965 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,760 And the children being identified by their iris scans. 966 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:30,200 And I think they've probably got something, you know, behind this 967 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,200 because I looked at their privacy policy and unfortunately 968 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,840 it does say that that's highlighted there. 969 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,000 This will all be in the show notes, but it actually says that 970 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:44,320 they can share this data with third parties, which is really 971 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,400 concerning, I think. And I think we we really have to 972 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,920 follow this up and, you know, schools shouldn't be doing this, 973 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,560 you know, just letting charities come in and do it. 974 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,400 And they're training people up to do this. 975 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,840 So I think we need to really look at it because I think there 976 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:03,120 is a worry there. Thank you. 977 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:05,640 Absolutely, Sandy. There is. 978 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,760 And I think even if they're saying that they have permission 979 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,720 or they may share, it is in a way beside the point. 980 00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:13,520 Because of course, even if they don't and they're a third party, 981 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,000 the, the, there's, there's no way they can guarantee the 982 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,200 security of that data in the 1st place, as as exemplified by so 983 00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,560 many cyber disasters in recent times. 984 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,920 No, we're just going to finish off with a very brief look at 985 00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,520 the latest news on pseudo scientific propaganda, which is 986 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,520 dressed up as health advice, thinly veiling the aim of 987 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,720 continuing to destroy land, landscapes, rural economies and 988 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,120 common sense. And I give you the rehash of the 989 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,480 Planetary Health Diet of 2019, which had sunk without trace. 990 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,760 But it's just up to the surface again, thanks to The Lancet. 991 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:50,880 Now it states that actions on food systems strongly impact 992 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,400 lives and well being of all and are necessary to progress 993 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,320 towards goals highlighted in the Sustainable Development Goals, 994 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,960 the Paris Agreement and the Kunmingmong Triol global 995 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,960 biodiversity Framework. So no surprises there in a 996 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,920 sense. But what's changed now is they 997 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,240 that they're saying, or at least not necessarily change, but what 998 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,520 they're stating is that more than half the world's population 999 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,440 struggles to access healthy diets, leading to devastating 1000 00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,600 consequences for public health, social equity and the 1001 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,320 environment. And this latest paper is saying 1002 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,920 that it's expanding its scope and strengthening its evidence 1003 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,680 base, which is why it's come out again. 1004 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,760 And I would suggest that it bodes I'll by stating exactly 1005 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,360 what it does there. Now, on the changes to be made 1006 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:39,480 to the diet of people who are currently alive in the world, 1007 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,600 they say that some sectors would need to contract and they're 1008 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,400 putting out a figure of 33% reduction in ruminant meat 1009 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,240 production. They say that others would need 1010 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:52,480 to expand and they're calling for a 63% increase in fruit, 1011 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,080 vegetable and nut production. But this is only in comparison 1012 00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,400 with the 2020 production level. So it's very drastic changes 1013 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:03,120 that they're putting out. And one might consider that this 1014 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,360 is modelling at its very worst, or it's extreme, absolute cherry 1015 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,520 picking and wilful avoidance of the many variables that are 1016 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,480 concerned with all of this. But it's exactly the sort of 1017 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,720 paper which provides impetus for organisations like the Office 1018 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:20,800 for Health Economics which suggested just last year an 1019 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:25,160 entirely plant based diet for the whole of England in its 2024 1020 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,560 report. And of course they, with the use 1021 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,800 of modelling and pure speculation, they were 1022 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:37,320 suggesting that not only would this vastly reduce disease of 1023 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,960 all forms, but it would also reduce food production costs as 1024 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,000 well. Now there's not really 1025 00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,760 sufficient time to go into more of this in this brief report, 1026 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,920 but what I would like to do is to point you towards John 1027 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,560 Fleetwood's analysis of this on Substack. 1028 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,000 And it'd be something that we come back to in the future. 1029 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,760 There'll be a link to it in the show notes. 1030 00:59:55,840 --> 01:00:00,600 And of course also to consider all matters food and farming by 1031 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,360 going to the farming section on the UK column. 1032 01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:08,120 Website Now that does bring us to the end of the programme. 1033 01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,240 So just a reminder that we've got Germ speaking to Pepe 1034 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,240 Escobar at 7:00 tonight. Don't miss that. 1035 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,800 And indeed, Patrick Henningson will go out at 1:00 tomorrow, 1036 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:23,080 Thursday speaking from the Hope event in Sussex over the bank 1037 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:24,760 holiday weekend. If you are, if you are AUK 1038 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,640 column member, please stick around and join us for extra in 1039 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,520 a few minutes. If you're not, please consider 1040 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,800 joining and don't forget about tickets for the York event this 1041 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,120 weekend. Ben, thank you very much indeed 1042 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:39,320 for joining me in the studio. Thank you, Sandy, thanks for 1043 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,920 being on the live link and we'll see you again in a minute for 1044 01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,480 extra. If you're not able to join, 1045 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,800 we'll look forward to seeing you again at 1:00 on Wednesday. 1046 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:47,560 Bye bye.