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None. 
Bartzibrell, thank you for 

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joining me in the trenches. 
I love what you said to me a 

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moment ago, how all men are 
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Well, yeah, the analogy I used 
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could take a part of VCR, clean 
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I couldn't change my oil. 
I'd be under there cursing 

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because I don't do it all the 
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So one person can change your 
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Another person can do heart 
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So all people are equal in that 
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well. 
Some people have certain 

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attributes. 
They don't drink, they don't 

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smoke, but they don't get along 
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who drink and smoke. 
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The Bible says that all have 
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glory of God and no one is 
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I know we're in the alternative 
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child evil villains. 
You could say I hate to use his 

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name, but Bill Gates, for 
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And one of the things that 
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of this earth is when he said 
love your enemy. 

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You see, the Muslims are bombing
the Jews and the Jews are 

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bombing the Muslims and the 
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States, they're bombing 
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No one is actually loving their 
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And God says he doesn't want 
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to come to repentance. 
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kill one person a month and Bill
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So I'm righteous compared to 
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Not really. 
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When Jesus was being murdered, 
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don't know what they're doing. 
If you look at Bill Gates's body

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language, rocking back and 
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he moves with his hands and arms
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something wrong with the guy. 
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from the cradle to be a racist 
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of his parents who founded 
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black population of America. 
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may still be doing wrong and all
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compassion on him as well. 
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Ephesians 6, I think, are the 
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other dimensions that are 
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mind. 
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heart, then only evil forces and
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And so the moon landing fraud, 
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actually did fake the moon 
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symbolic because it's mankind's 
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most powerful nation on earth 
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righteous. 
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watch a funny thing happened on 
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with the Tower of Babel, which 
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build a tower and doesn't finish
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after year is a testimony to the
construction crew's foolishness 

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for not knowing what they were 
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So the Tower of Babel was never 
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So it was kind of a rebuke. 
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heavens. 
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To reach the heavens? 
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Genesis 6. 
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name for ourselves, for us to be
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tallest building. 
What was the space race about to

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show off? 
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Titanic in the 20th century, the
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the hand of man, and they put in
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God himself could not sink. 
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Titanic, never made one voyage. 
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didn't have the guts to show up 
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Can you imagine? 
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are there at the launch of the 
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And Nixon, he knew it was fake, 
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picture of him shaking Neil 
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smile at it later to become 
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himself from it in case they got
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No one had ever faked the moon 
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they could get caught, although 
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get away with it. 
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launch once they got away with 
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nevertheless said putting a man 
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greatness only to God making the
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weren't there. 
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So according to that structure, 
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about the Tower of Babel is 
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of that Titanic is known to the 
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known also, and maybe not 
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Imagine there's a couple who 
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They get married, and then six 
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convention, gets insanely drunk,
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somebody with no clothes on, and
realizes they've been 

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unfaithful. 
They can go home and tell their 

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spouse and say, look, I'm I 
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Divorce me if you want, or 
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happened. 
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their 50th anniversary after 
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and respect in the community and
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Oh by the way Hun, I cheated on 
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You see, the impact I think 
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Maybe that's why, you know, 
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I've never seen a debunking 
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Why waste my time? 
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and it was a long road for me to
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However, I download one every 
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truth comes out, they're going 
to be scrambling to take those 

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debunking videos down so they 
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fools. 
And so I'm, I'm saving a few of 

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them and we were talking about 
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when I, I did 2 interviews with 
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first one, I think in March, he 
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screen of a debunking video. 
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because I did Joe Rogan. 
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this guy starts the video by 
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videos, but I'm doing this one 
that's like Edgar Mitchell 

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saying I don't hit people and 
then he hits people 5 seconds 

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later, right? 
And so the guy is so offended I 

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offended his God that he never 
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got to do this because I 
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and it's something like 2 1/2 
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OK, so Jeremy, if they went to 
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that I have that proves they 
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So how long should a debunking 
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0 minutes and 0 seconds? 
Because I have no proof at all 

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if they really went to the moon.
But to have to spend 2 1/2 hours

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pushing back the proof that they
did indeed fake it is more proof

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that they did. 
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I asked Charles Duke when we did
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you know, why are you here if I 
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And Jeremy so and so in South 
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Mount Everest when I fly halfway
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from them to debate whether I 
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Are you kidding me? 
Give me a break. 

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I have more important things to 
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So the fact that he's there, and
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hasn't been seen in a podcast or
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years. 
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because he's a better liar. 
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podcast after podcast since I 
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that the moon missions are real,
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they were real, right? 
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George Washington was not the 
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Mickey Mouse, would there be 
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reassure people no, no, no, it's
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And if you look at the picture, 
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Washington look different. 
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The fact is there is enormous 
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it, and that's why it takes so 
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How are you doing, Jeremy? 
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broken and the sun is has 
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Run the. 
Light is shining through. 

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How apropos. 
I need to fix this this blind, 

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but for now I'm going to just 
have to hold my hand here. 

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But why is this important? 
Well, that's an excellent 

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question and and really 
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Americans believe that Oswald 
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It says in the encyclopedia that
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The government has 1000 pages of
alleged documentation to prove 

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that Oswald killed Kennedy, and 
yet 75% of Americans know 

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better. 
There are 3000 engineers who 

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risked A reputation saying that 
the buildings on 9/11 did not 

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collapse by a pinhole airplane 
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It's impossible. 
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photograph. 
Half the building, half the grid

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is blown away, still stands. 
A grid cannot collapse and half 

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of Americans know that that 
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So according to that, you could 
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that the government did, and I 
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And why bother? 
It's just one more on the pile 

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of a bunch of garbage the 
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for the fact that they murdered 
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And that's not my opinion. 
This is the opinion of dead 

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astronauts, relatives who I 
interviewed at length who say 

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that their Apollo astronaut 
husband and father was murdered 

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by the CIA for not cooperating 
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program. 
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telling me this. 
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America, you know a lot of 
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the Christian Church is 1 
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You know was faithful and 
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times with. 
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is rebuking church members for 
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And maybe America was founded on
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and freedom. 
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the Constitution, it's the 
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Independence that says when any 
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destructive of life, liberty and
the pursuit of happiness, it is 

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the right of the people to alter
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According to the federal 
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for a state, Tennessee, Texas, 
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United States of America. 
It's illegal for them, according

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to the, you know, the attorney 
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whatever, but the first document
of our country says it's 

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perfectly legal. 
And not to mention that if you 

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ask the Congress how many of you
are Christians, probably, you 

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know, 85% of them would raise 
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And the Bible says when someone 
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let them do so. 
So there's a scriptural, you 

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know, precedent for that. 
The fact is they murdered their 

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own people. 
The first one is life. 

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According to the relatives of 
the man who was going to be the 

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first man to walk on the moon, 
who would not cooperate with the

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moon landing fraud, he was 
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In fact, he had whistleblower 
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And I interviewed his widow for 
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She told me the day before he 
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said, Hon, for some strange 
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launchpad today inspecting the 
equipment. 

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I've been here for years, never 
seen the CIA. 

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Why did they show up today? 
The next day, he's dead from 

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faulty equipment. 
A man who called the moon rocket

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a piece of garbage on the 
Evening News a few days earlier 

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and was a boat rocker that they 
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And so the federal government 
has murdered their own people. 

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Now, if you go to Wikipedia, 
which, you know, lies 

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continually, occasionally they 
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And I think there's 
documentation about the Kennedy 

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administration's Northwoods 
project where people from the 

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Pentagon chief of staff or 
whoever said, Kennedy, let's do 

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this. 
You want to hear this great 

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idea, why don't we blow up 
Americans, blame it on Cuba so 

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we have an excuse to go to war 
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They put in writing, I think you
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that they thought somebody in 
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great idea to murder Americans 
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a war. 
And that sound like 911. 

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And they put it in writing. 
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think if you plot to kill 
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murder in it. 
Shouldn't those people have gone

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to jail? 
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Secretary, told President 
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pulling out of the Vietnam War, 
said, look, the public's against

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it. 
We need something like Pearl 

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Harbor, you know, to motivate 
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And they contrived a fake attack
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American ship that led to the 
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including 58,220 of their own 
soldiers on an event that never 

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happened. 
They completely fabricated it. 

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And Kennedy's relatives say he 
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So the federal government is 
murdering their own president, 

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murdering their own people, 
murdering their own astronauts. 

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That's why it matters. 
These people are at large. 

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We can't say, Jeremy. 
You know, in my subdivision, one

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child disappears every month. 
It's been going on for 50 years.

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One of those things, like, like 
it rains from time to time. 

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No, it's needs to stop. 
These are murderers running our 

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government. 
They're embezzling billions of 

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dollars, right? 
The only reason people haven't 

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acknowledged the moon landing 
fraud is because it's a positive

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lie that people want to hear. 
They want their team to win the 

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Super Bowl. 
They want science and technology

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in America to win the space 
race. 

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And so they gave him this 
flattery, this fake moon 

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landing, and people are 
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which is pretty pathetic. 
That's how fallen the world is 

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and so that's why it matters 
because these people are 

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murderers. 
They murdered numerous people. 

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In fact, if you go to 
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is the behind the scenes 
investigation of my film. 

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We have an eyewitness who saw 
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at Cannon Air Force Base and who
admitted as he was dying he 

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murdered a Co worker to cover it
up because they were going to 

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blow the whistle about it. 
So that's why it matters. 

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Why did the US government start 
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Well, Kennedy wasn't a 
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He was a visionary. 
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space, I think for 15 minutes, 
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Coast to the West Coast. 
Kennedy comes up with this idea,

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Why don't we try to put men on 
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And we'll set a deadline to help
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the decade. 
And he misspoke, right? 

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They can't go to the moon today.
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they can now only travel one 
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moon. 
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Really. 
Technology is greater in the 

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past and in the future. 
He misspoke and they wouldn't 

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admit it. 
The faking of the moon landing 

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proves our leaders are juvenile.
I watched Stanley Kubrick's, 

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what is it Called? 
Doctor Strangelove last night. 

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And the way that the, yeah, the 
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are talking to one another. 
And the world leaders, they're a

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bunch of kids with machine guns.
They could have just told the 

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truth. 
I'm sorry. 

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You know we can't do it, But the
fact is, my book is interactive.

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If you go to sabrel.com, click 
on Moon Man video links. 

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One of the links we show is the 
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broadcast two days later by Dan 
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Who says we're not going to show
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too horrific? 
But trust me, let me describe it

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for you. 
Well, we have synchronized it, 

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or somebody did, and I copied 
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They synchronized it with Dan 
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And when he says the third fat 
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violently forward. 
His head goes violently 

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backward. 
So in 1963, CBS told the exact 

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opposite of the truth about one 
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the country's history. 
That's what they did a few years

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later with the moon landing 
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No eyewitnesses, no independent 
press coverage. 

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You just have to trust Richard 
Nixon. 

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Yeah. 
Tell the truth. 

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This is the thing that has 
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It's one of these events that 
you can't falsify because it's 

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so far away. 
And so on the day, if there was 

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a rocket that went up into the 
sky, anybody on the ground would

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have only been able to see to a 
certain distance. 

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After that, you have to trust 
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That's right. 
In fact, Eugene Krantz, who I've

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spoken to personally, said that 
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can't tell the difference 
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quote, real flight. 
Just a bunch of numbers going by

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on a screen. 
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center cannot tell the 
difference between the real and 

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a rehearsal Apollo flight, how 
can we watching it on video 

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years after it happened or as a 
four year old from our living 

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room? 
Their number one excuse as to 

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why it must be real is 400,000 
people were involved if you 

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include every janitor and 
secretary and office supply and 

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pencil pusher from every company
associated with the Apollo 

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program. 
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government's really stupid 
enough to say to the guy making 

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the glove or the door handle or 
the boot, hey, we're really not 

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going to the moon, be sure not 
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I mean, come on, if someone in 
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the difference, how can we? 
And then they had other Apollo 

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astronauts serving in the 
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case the mistakes were shown. 
We uncovered a mistake. 

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Go to sabrel.com and watch a 
funny thing happened on the way 

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to the moon. 
We found footage of them faking 

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part of the moon landing right 
in front of your eyes, with a 

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third track of audio of the CIA 
telling him how to do it. 

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And when I saw that, I'm like, 
Oh my gosh, they actually did 

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fake the moon landing. 
The Washington Post, who 

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interviewed me, agrees that that
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fake and refused to run a story 
about it. 2 NBC News directors 

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agreed. 
The footage I uncovered proves 

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they did not go to the moon and 
they were called by the federal 

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government and threatened with 
disconnecting their, you know, 

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their network feed or something 
if they aired my footage. 

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So it's not just me saying the 
footage proves that, other 

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people say it as well. 
Yeah, I remember watching, I 

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think it was Jimmy Fallon or 
Jimmy Kimmel, one of those late 

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night shows on which Buzz Aldrin
appeared and he's always at 

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Colbert or something. 
I don't know. 

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That doesn't really matter. 
One of those late night shows in

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which he said, yeah, we saw you 
walk on the moon. 

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And then and then Buzz Aldrin 
stopped him, said no, no, no, 

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no, no, you didn't see that. 
You saw what did you say? 

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You saw acting or you saw a. 
Simulation, what he was talking 

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about during the lunar descent. 
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descent, they had like an Atari 
computer graphic of a, you know,

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a little triangle with a, you 
know, pretty bad looking moon in

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the background. 
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bottom of the screen. 
So they didn't have live 

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pictures during the landing. 
They had live pictures during 

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the trip to the moon. 
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moon, allegedly, but not during 
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If the moon landing was real, 
they would have had a camera 

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mounted on the side of the 
rocket and you could go to the 

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TV station and see it 24 hours 
until it completely left her. 

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They went to the moon and down, 
but they didn't had all these 

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blackout points and then 
suddenly the lights come up and 

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they're on the moon. 
And we have an eyewitness who 

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says that moon set was filmed at
Cannon Air Force Base a year in 

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advance, June 1st, 2nd and 3rd 
of 1968, and that the Apollo 

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astronauts weren't even in the 
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They were standing there 
watching somebody else perform 

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those duties. 
And it's very easy to fake 

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something when you have no 
independent press coverage and 

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the only proof is from the 
criminals who are perpetrating 

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it. 
I mean, you have to understand, 

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the former CIA director who 
Kennedy fired was in charge of 

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proving that Oswald killed the 
president rather than himself. 

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Can you imagine? 
Can you imagine if OJ Simpson 

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were the chief investigator as 
to whether or not he killed 

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those people or not? 
And that'd be great, right? 

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I'm sure he would love that. 
So he had, we had the person who

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killed the president who gave 
that order in charge of the 

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investigation, you know, proving
who actually did it. 

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And of course, he's not going to
say himself. 

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Do you think an unmanned mission
has ever happened? 

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Oh sure, you can send a probe 
beyond Earth orbit. 

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The problem is you don't have 
enough fuel to leave Earth orbit

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with people on board who require
radiation protection, oxygen, 

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food and so forth. 
Elon Musk just said in order to 

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go to the moon you need 15 fuel 
trips to a space station 1st and

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from there you'll have enough 
fuel to go to the moon and back.

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We have a video at sabrel.com 
Von Braun saying the very same 

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thing. 
The largest rocket we can build 

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can only go into Earth orbit, 
and from there you need to ferry

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up multiple fuel trips in order 
to go to the moon. 

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And that's what it takes to go 
to the moon before they set the 

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goal to go to the moon and to 
quote return to the moon. 

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Then that's what it takes for 
all time. 

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That's why they destroyed all 
the blueprint schematics of the 

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Saturn 5 rocket, the lunar 
module, and so forth. 

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Can you imagine one of the clips
of sabrel.com that my book is 

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interacting with? 
Like 30 clips? 

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NASA's astronaut says they 
destroyed the technology that 

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they used to go to the moon. 
They intentionally. 

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But yeah, he says, it was it was
an accident. 

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No, he didn't say. 
No, he didn't say that was an 

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accident. 
I think they said they 

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accidentally destroyed the 
original videotapes, the 

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technology he said they 
intentionally destroyed. 

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We destroyed that technology, is
what he said. 

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Now, if there were ever a time 
in history in which you would 

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destroy a technology, it might 
be the atomic bomb. 

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OK, we used it to end World War 
2. 

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But let's you know, this is too 
dangerous. 

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Let's destroy the blueprints and
have a have a, you know, 

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international treaty to never 
let that genie out of the bottle

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again. 
But they didn't do that, did 

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they? 
Just 10 years later with the 

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progress of technology. 
Atomic bombs 10 years later were

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1000 times more explosive. 
So if they could go to the moon 

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on the first attempt with one 
millionth the computing power of

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a cell phone, we would have been
on Mars 10 years later. 

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We'd be in another solar system 
by now, and there'd be bases all

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over the moon. 
Why is it today, with five 

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decades better rockets and 
computers, they can only send a 

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human one thousandth the 
distance to the moon? 

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That's like saying Toyota or, or
better yet, let's say Lindbergh 

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flew across the Atlantic in 
1927, right? 

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So 55 years later, 1982, the 
farthest an airplane can fly is 

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only three miles, and not a 
single aircraft has flown over 

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the Atlantic before. 
When people went to Mount 

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Everest, are people still going 
to Mount Everest? 

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When people went to the South 
Pole, are people still going to 

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the South Pole? 
To say that Lindbergh flew 

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across the Atlantic 3000 miles 
in 1927 and 55 years later the 

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best airplane can only fly 3 
miles, and not a single person 

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from a single country has flown 
over the Atlantic and 50 years 

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is preposterous. 
That's exactly what they're 

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saying about the moon landing. 
You cannot have greater 

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technology in the past and in 
the future. 

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Plus we have an eyewitness who 
confessed to killing a person to

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cover it up where it was filmed 
when it was filmed. 

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We have this footage of them 
faking being halfway to the moon

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and you can look at a simple 
shadow in a picture that proves 

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it was electrical lighting 
because the shadows are 

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intersecting at 90° when they 
should be parallel if they were 

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sunlight. 
He can prove the moon landing 

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fraud in one picture. 
People just don't want to accept

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it. 
Even great critics of the 

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federal government like oh, 
what's his name? 

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00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,920
Tucker Carlson. 
And who's that guy? 

450
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,360
Glenn Beck. 
They're sincere, but they're 

451
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:12,240
sincerely wrong. 
They say to themselves, I know 

452
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,520
America has gotten bad, but at 
least we went to the moon. 

453
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,240
They should know that from past 
experience, that the longer they

454
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,920
live, the deeper they dig the 
world. 

455
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,560
And the federal government is 
more corrupt than they 

456
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,320
previously thought. 
There's no independent press 

457
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,960
coverage. 
People wanted to believe it. 

458
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,080
They did sadly fake the moon 
landing and anyone with an open 

459
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,920
mind would agree. 
There's a great clip or quote on

460
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,880
my homepage of sabrel.com from 
someone who saw me on Joe Rogan,

461
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,720
he says. 
I never considered that they 

462
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,520
were fake, but after watching 
the interview it's so obvious 

463
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,360
that they faked it. 
Bart's book shows all the proof,

464
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:03,160
all the more that they faked it.
I'm sorry I had to come to the 

465
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,800
same conclusion. 
From literally worshipping the 

466
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,240
glory of the moon landings, to 
being a skeptic, to realizing 

467
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,520
they did indeed fake it. 
That's the world we live in. 

468
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,840
That's the country we have. 
And if we keep denying we have 

469
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,960
cancer, it's going to be our 
undoing. 

470
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,560
Do you think Joe agrees with 
you? 

471
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,560
Oh, absolutely, yeah. 
He called me up or emailed me 22

472
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,680
years ago, says Bart. 
You know, I, I believe we didn't

473
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,840
go. 
What can I do to help? 

474
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,920
You took me out to dinner and 
then, you know, before the show 

475
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,720
is like, I know he didn't go, 
but let me, you know, pretend 

476
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,600
I'm being critical here, you 
know, and he's I didn't 

477
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,320
understand what he was doing 
because I know he knows. 

478
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,720
We didn't go to the moon. 
And then I was exhausted from 

479
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,800
travelling and it was like a 
three hour interview. 

480
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,480
And normally I'm like, that 
interview went great or 

481
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,120
terrible. 
And after Joe Rogan, I'm like, 

482
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,040
what was that? 
And we in the break in the 

483
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,400
bathroom are like, what are you 
doing? 

484
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,440
You know, you, you know, they 
didn't go to the moon. 

485
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,240
He says, I know, but trust me, 
I'm doing this for a reason. 

486
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,280
There's a whole new generation 
of people who need to, you know,

487
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,560
overcome the critical thinking. 
Trust me. 

488
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,480
And apparently he was right. 
I can't see my nose for my face 

489
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,280
or the forest for the trees and 
after, you know, that's why I 

490
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,640
posted that quote about the Joe 
Rogan interview on my homepage 

491
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,320
because he was right the the way
that he did. 

492
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,800
It did help people see that the 
moon missions were fake. 

493
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,560
If they have an open mind. 
Other people, you know, worship 

494
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:39,200
it. 
I get emails from people who say

495
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,120
they wish they could watch my 
wife and children burn a lie 

496
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,600
before their eyes because I 
dared say the glorious landings 

497
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,680
were fake. 
Anyone who foams at the mouth to

498
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:55,120
that degree does not see things 
clearly, which proves that I'm 

499
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,840
right. 
I talked to a college professor 

500
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,160
teaching aerospace and he said 
even if Neil Armstrong confessed

501
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,480
on national TV that the moon 
missions were fake, he would 

502
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,160
think that they're real anyway. 
People have no open mind. 

503
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:15,120
I just saw a clip of the what is
his name, the grill Neil degree 

504
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,520
Tyson or something like that, 
whatever the guys name is. 

505
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,760
Which is a pretty, pretty bad 
spokesperson in my opinion for 

506
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,400
the scientific community. 
I like the the Japanese guy, he 

507
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,560
does a lot better. 
But any case, and he says, you 

508
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,760
know, people who think the moon 
landings are fake or 

509
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,680
disconnected from reality or 
words to that effect. 

510
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,800
And it's interesting because 
those very comments actually 

511
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,880
apply to himself. 
He is totally disconnected from 

512
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,440
reality. 
And that person who's 

513
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:48,000
disconnected from reality is the
spokesperson for the scientific 

514
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,400
community. 
What he's accusing the moon 

515
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,960
landing fraud people who realize
it was a fake, is exactly true 

516
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,000
about himself. 
He is Gaga worshipping the moon 

517
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,560
landing, not, you know, 
completely hypnotized. 

518
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,720
You have a hypnotized person who
can't tell the truth from a lie 

519
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,560
being the spokesperson for the 
scientific community of the 

520
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,920
United States of America and 
calling the other people who are

521
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,720
awake, asleep, when he himself 
is more hypnotized than anybody 

522
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,960
else. 
I think the the bit that got me,

523
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,360
the footage of the announcement 
where the three astronauts are 

524
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,600
sitting, forget now is it 
Congress or whatever it was, 

525
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,000
they didn't even make the 
announcement. 

526
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,120
I think it was the president who
announced it, and they looked 

527
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,680
like they were about to start 
crying. 

528
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,640
Yeah, now to me, I gave them the
benefit of the doubt as long as 

529
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,280
possible. 
I had $1,000,000 to produce this

530
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,640
movie. 
It was given to me by someone 

531
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,280
who build rockets for NASA, who 
knew it was fake, who thought it

532
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,360
was his patriotic duty to expose
it. 

533
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,840
I was producing the film under 
the theory it might be true that

534
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,240
they faked it. 
I found the footage that proves 

535
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,360
they were faking part of the 
mission right in front of your 

536
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,560
eyes. 
And I'm like, Oh my gosh, they 

537
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,760
really did fake the moon 
landing. 

538
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,440
And I, I was shocked. 
Now I, I gave myself too long of

539
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,600
a two-part episode to answer 
your question. 

540
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,360
Remind me your question one more
time. 

541
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,920
That was a lead up. 
Just answering I. 

542
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,040
Was just saying that those those
3 astronauts sitting and then. 

543
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,520
Oh, right. 
OK, so, so to, to me, the, the, 

544
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:36,840
the epiphany, you know what, how
I went from, you know, believing

545
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,600
the moon landings are real to 
knowing that they were indeed 

546
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,080
falsified. 
Is that footage? 

547
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:46,520
And about 80%, four out of five 
people to watch A funny thing 

548
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,040
happened on the way to the moon,
It's there for free at 

549
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,640
sabrel.com. 
They reverse their opinion. 

550
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:57,280
And of that group, 80% say the 
proof that convinced them was 

551
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,760
the footage of them faking part 
of the moon mission. 

552
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:04,160
But one out of five say the 
proof that convinced him was 

553
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,800
what you said, Jeremy. 
Their expressions at their first

554
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,480
and only press conference 
together, they look like they're

555
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,199
at the funeral of their mother 
instead of the winning locker 

556
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:20,159
room of the Super Bowl. 
Their expressions look exactly 

557
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:23,120
like people who don't want to be
there, who are lying, in which 

558
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,880
they weren't lying. 
And they even have teleprompters

559
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,760
hidden into the desk to remind 
the people who were supposed to 

560
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,760
be the only people who walked on
the moon what that experience 

561
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,080
was like. 
And they're reading from 

562
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,239
teleprompters, and they look 
like they're at the funeral of 

563
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,239
their mother. 
You mean they should eat on 

564
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,920
their faces? 
And a lot of people are getting 

565
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,639
different from that. 
Yeah, exactly. 

566
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:53,040
I mean, greatest. 
There's so many I know, but 

567
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,080
they're they're, they're lying 
about mankind's greatest 

568
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,360
accomplishment. 
You can see it on their faces. 

569
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,720
They wish they were not there. 
You can see it on their faces, 

570
00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:08,480
their depression from having to 
lie or being, you know, coerced 

571
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,280
into lying. 
Well, I mean, the counter 

572
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,600
argument is that they were just 
being professional. 

573
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,840
You know, it's, it's another day
at the office. 

574
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:23,520
Well, I mean my greatest critic 
agrees that the footage I 

575
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,880
uncovered is them faking part of
the moon mission. 

576
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,440
So there you go. 
My greatest critic has to agreed

577
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,600
that the footage I uncovered is 
the crew of Apollo 11 faking the

578
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,120
photography a part of their 
mission. 

579
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,600
So if they really went to the 
moon, why would they be faking 

580
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,760
any of it? 
You can you can argue in and out

581
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,840
of anything. 
Like I said, a college professor

582
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,880
said a confession from Neil 
Armstrong that it was fake would

583
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,960
not dissuade him from believing 
in the glorious moon landings. 

584
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,840
People just are going to believe
what they want to believe. 

585
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaking of Neil Armstrong, I 
mean, didn't he go into like a 

586
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,640
reclusive hermit kind of 
lifestyle after that? 

587
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,040
Yeah, he did. 
From my research, he was a very,

588
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,160
I think they say Gregorious, 
outgoing person. 

589
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,600
Prior to the Apollo mission, he 
was the life of the party, 

590
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,760
apparently played the piano. 
Everyone would surround him and 

591
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,120
he would sing and play the piano
at parties and was the center of

592
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,280
attention. 
And then afterwards his 

593
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,360
personality became the exact 
opposite. 

594
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,440
He became reclusive. 
So here we have three people on 

595
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,360
on the 1st mission to the moon 
and two of the three will never 

596
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,200
give an interview unless the 
President of the United States 

597
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,520
asked them to do so. 
Do you understand that they 

598
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,880
don't want to talk about it? 
I believe Neil Armstrong was 

599
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,880
threatened with the death of his
wife and children and that's why

600
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,320
he grudgingly participated, 
Looked like he was under the 

601
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,800
thumb to do it during the press 
conference, resigned shortly 

602
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,800
thereafter, and refused to ever 
be interviewed about it. 

603
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,200
That's why. 
Because it was a lie. 

604
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,000
He was threatened. 
His wife was threatened. 

605
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:11,320
My source who was at Cannon Air 
Force Base who saw them faking 

606
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,520
the moon landing. 
I double checked these details 

607
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:19,120
before I published my book with 
his son, and his son was visited

608
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,560
just a few years ago by the CIA 
and they threatened to kill him 

609
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,360
and his family if he ever spoke 
to me again about his father's 

610
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,640
participation in the moon 
landing throng. 

611
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,080
So that's what they're doing. 
They're still threatening to 

612
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,120
kill people and they are killing
people. 

613
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,280
There are other Apollo 
astronauts other than the first 

614
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,360
crew that was going to be who 
were murdered. 

615
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,600
There are backup crews who were 
murdered. 

616
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,400
There were critics of the 
program who were murdered. 

617
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,880
And there's a Co worker at 
Cannon Air Force Base who was 

618
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,880
murdered as well. 
This is why it matters. 

619
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,680
They didn't just fake the moon 
landing and not kill anybody. 

620
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,640
At which point maybe I would 
admire their cleverness. 

621
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:01,000
They murdered people to cover it
up. 

622
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,600
They're still threatening to 
murder people who will talk 

623
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:10,680
about it and expose it. 
If the truth makes us free, then

624
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:17,600
lies make us slaves. 
So every American citizen is a 

625
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,560
slave of the corrupt federal 
government as long as the 

626
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,560
official policy as the moon 
landings are real. 

627
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:30,440
I cannot believe Trump wants to 
allegedly reform the government 

628
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,640
and he refuses to use the number
one tool at his disposal to do 

629
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,280
so, which is to show the 
American public they were made 

630
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:44,200
chunks 6 times in a row. 
They embezzled the sweat of 

631
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,880
their labor and murdered people,
paid the salaries of CIA agents 

632
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,880
to murder Americans to cover it 
up. 

633
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,160
If President Trump showed that 
to the American people, he would

634
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,440
have Republicans and Democrats 
saying we didn't know it was 

635
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,160
that bad. 
Please clean house. 

636
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,600
It's amazing, the number one 
tool to reform the government 

637
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,400
people are not using. 
Who said they want to reform the

638
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,240
government? 
They're too embarrassed. 

639
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,640
They're afraid of what men will 
think. 

640
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,400
We need to be afraid of what God
thinks. 

641
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,200
The certainty is we are going to
die. 

642
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,640
And when I was first asked to 
make this movie, I turned it 

643
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,840
down because it looked like 
maybe they did fake the moon 

644
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,440
landing. 
And if I start investigating 

645
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,920
this, it could be dangerous. 
I'm not going to risk my life 

646
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,840
for what Nixon did all those 
years ago. 

647
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:38,120
But after I started reading the 
Bible about right and wrong 

648
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:43,640
Judgment Day, I realized that 
faking the moon landing is 

649
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:49,120
actually more historic and more 
significant than if they had 

650
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,640
actually gone. 
Either they planted a flag, came

651
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,080
back with 60s technology even 
though they can't do it today, 

652
00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:00,080
or the most powerful nation on 
earth falsified mankind's 

653
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,920
greatest accomplishment and 
murdered people to cover it up. 

654
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,400
If that's true, and I assure you
it is, that's so much more 

655
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,480
profound historically than if 
they'd actually gone. 

656
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,480
So we have one of the greatest 
truths of history. 

657
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,720
Is the federal government faked 
the moon landing? 

658
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,160
That's how arrogant they are. 
And they murdered people to 

659
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,720
cover it up. 
And it's like people having 

660
00:40:24,720 --> 00:40:29,200
cancer and not having a cure or 
not even knowing you have 

661
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,320
cancer. 
Why is are there gut? 

662
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,600
There's gutless people in the 
federal government. 

663
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,920
No one has the guts to tell the 
truth. 

664
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,560
After five years of change, I 
changed my mind. 

665
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,240
I said I'm going to die anyway. 
This is worth dying for. 

666
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,240
If they fake the moon landing, 
that's a cancer the public 

667
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:51,600
doesn't even know exists. 
And the people who did it are 

668
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,440
going to stay in power until 
it's exposed, closed. 

669
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,960
The other red flag is also that 
it's only Americans who 

670
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,080
supposedly went to the moon, no 
other country. 

671
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,760
Well yeah, after the sound 
barrier was broken. 

672
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,640
How long before the another 
nation broke the sound barrier? 

673
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,760
Probably the same year I would 
think. 

674
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,520
After the atom was split in 
1945. 

675
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,480
How long before the Soviets 
split the atom? 

676
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:24,600
I think 2 years later. 
So I don't see why somebody can 

677
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,440
fly to the moon with on the 
first attempt. 

678
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,280
I mean on the first attempt, 
right? 

679
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,640
NASA has never kept a schedule 
and their entire existence 

680
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,800
except the most complicated 
mission of all time, they were 

681
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,240
ahead of schedule. 
So if you could go to the moon, 

682
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,960
right, With one millionth of the
computing power, cell phone, 

683
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,560
anybody and everybody should be 
able to go to the moon today, 

684
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,960
and yet they can't. 
I got an e-mail three years ago 

685
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,080
from one of my critics saying 
Artemis is going to have people 

686
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,680
walking on the moon next year. 
What are you going to do then? 

687
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,200
I said I assure you they will 
postpone it. 

688
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,880
Got an e-mail three days ago 
Artemis is going to have people,

689
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,120
you know, on the moon or 
orbiting the moon this year. 

690
00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:07,240
What are you going to do then? 
I'll tell you what, I will wager

691
00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:12,640
you $1,000,000 a million to one 
that they will not keep their 

692
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,800
schedule, right? 
I'll pay you a billion dollars 

693
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,800
if they keep their schedule and 
you pay me. 

694
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,680
You pay me a million if they 
don't, right? 

695
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:27,360
I guarantee you I'll give you a 
million to one odds on 

696
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:33,080
$1,000,000 that they will not 
keep their schedule and they 

697
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,040
won't. 
They haven't. 

698
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,640
They keep postponing it. 
They said in 2014 they're going 

699
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:43,600
to have people orbiting the moon
in 2018, and it wasn't until 

700
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:48,080
2022 that they had mannequins, 
not people orbiting the moon. 

701
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:53,560
OK, so you can play golf and 
drive cars on the moon and have 

702
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,720
parties on the moon with 1960s 
technology and the best you can 

703
00:42:57,720 --> 00:43:00,960
do 50 years later is have 
mannequins orbiting the moon. 

704
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,040
Mannequins. 
One of the clips at sabra.com is

705
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,320
NASA's own scientist saying 
there is a huge field of 

706
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,440
radiation you'd have to go 
through to the moon. 

707
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:17,200
The technology to do so has not 
been invented yet, I saw. 

708
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,200
There you go. 
A few years ago somebody sent a 

709
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:27,960
link of a audio clip that was on
NASA's website in which Nixon 

710
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,640
was supposedly talking on the 
phone to Neil Armstrong who was 

711
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,040
on the moon and there was no 
delay. 

712
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,480
And then apparently that clip 
got taken down and got re 

713
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,120
uploaded with gaps. 
Do you know which which clip I'm

714
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,880
talking about? 
Well, I think the one I know of 

715
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:52,840
was a conversation between NASA 
and the astronauts, the footage 

716
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,800
that we uncovered. 
Go to sabrel.com to see it. 

717
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,280
We have a third track of audio 
of the CIA prompting the Apollo 

718
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:06,800
astronauts not to speak until a 
fake 4 second radio delay goes 

719
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,120
by. 
They're in the scene that we 

720
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,520
have of them faking being 
halfway to the moon. 

721
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,520
It's supposed to be like a 
little Blue Earth surrounded by 

722
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,760
black. 
The lights come up and it's a 1 

723
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,760
foot model of the Earth that 
they created in the spacecraft. 

724
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,200
So they're still in Earth orbit,
faking being halfway to the 

725
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,320
moon, and in order to do so 
correctly, they have an earpiece

726
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,520
in. 
NASA asked them a question. 

727
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:34,040
One second goes by, two seconds 
go by, three seconds go by, 4 

728
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,520
seconds go by. 
And the CIA, you hear them 

729
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,040
clearly talk and Neil Armstrong 
speaks. 

730
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,800
They're telling them to fake A4 
second radio delay apparently 

731
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,880
going or faking going to the 
moon 6 times. 

732
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,720
You know, they made a few 
mistakes here and there and 

733
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:54,520
sometimes the conversations 
between Houston and people 

734
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,480
allegedly on the moon was 
instantaneous. 

735
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:57,560
How are you doing? 
Fine. 

736
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,200
The fact is that the delay would
be much greater than they 

737
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:07,560
estimated even today. 
If you're on NBC News in South 

738
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,880
Africa and I'm in the United 
States and I say, Jeremy, how's 

739
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,080
it going? 
It being to three. 

740
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,400
Oh, yeah, I'm doing fine. 
That's just on earth with 

741
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,960
digital equipment. 
Can you imagine the delay 

742
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,760
through all the analog 
equipment, all the phone lines 

743
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,560
the signal had to go through? 
It would have been a much bigger

744
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,720
delay than they estimated, but 
they were estimating, and 

745
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:35,360
sometimes the delay was there 
and sometimes it wasn't. 

746
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,600
Oops, they forgot. 
What does your research say 

747
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,040
though about the Soviets? 
I mean, this is a question we 

748
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,760
always hear, but the Soviets, 
they, why haven't they exposed 

749
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:51,440
the US government? 
Well, yeah, the the number one 

750
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,640
argument is it involved too many
people. 

751
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,480
You can't keep a secret from 
that many people. 

752
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,840
And like I said, the guy in the 
command center can't tell the 

753
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,600
difference between a real flight
and a rehearsal flight, 

754
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,960
according to the flight 
director, so that argument 

755
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,320
doesn't fly. 
And then the idea that the 

756
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,800
Soviets or the Chinese would 
blow the whistle, that's not 

757
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,320
true either. 
I know someone who works in the 

758
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,040
Chinese space agency, he says. 
Everybody there knows the 

759
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:19,640
movements are fake. 
They're blackmailing NASA for 

760
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,760
keeping it a secret. 
Congress passed a law about 4 

761
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:27,120
1/2 years ago forbidding the 
United States to sell any 

762
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,760
technology having to do with 
outer space to China, but 

763
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,800
they're doing it anyway. 
NASA is giving them duplicate 

764
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,680
plans to the space shuttle, the 
space station to China in 

765
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,000
exchange for them not blowing 
the whistle about the Apollo 

766
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,920
program. 
They have pictures of the 

767
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,320
landing sites where either, you 
know, the equipment there was 

768
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,120
put there long after the fact or
there's nothing there. 

769
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,720
Some some sort of proof. 
And so they're blackmailing 

770
00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:57,520
them. 
Putin's doing the same thing. 

771
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:02,600
We have a video on my homepage 
of I think something happened 

772
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,120
three years ago and never made 
the news three years ago and 

773
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,280
it's never made the news. 
OK, so three years ago, there's 

774
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:14,120
a convention in Moscow of AI 
technology, the greatest AI 

775
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,120
technology available, just like 
the latest cars at car 

776
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,760
conventions or cameras at camera
conventions. 

777
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,400
So they have Google's neural 
network not available to the 

778
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,720
public. 
It's not ChatGPT doing one. 

779
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:31,160
It's 10 AI hooked up together, 
super brain, and one team who's 

780
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,200
allowed to play with it for a 
few days has it right. 

781
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,120
A Symphony takes a couple of 
seconds. 

782
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,320
Some have it write a novel, 
takes a couple of seconds. 

783
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:41,360
And it has this deep fake 
detector program that's never 

784
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,080
been wrong. 
So they feed it pictures of the 

785
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,240
lunar surface from the unmanned 
Chinese probes from 2018. 

786
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,120
It says they're real. 
The foreground and the 

787
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,200
background are continuous. 
It's really the lunar surface. 

788
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,320
Then in comparison, they feed 
them pictures of the Apollo 

789
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,120
missions. 
Every single Apollo picture the 

790
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,960
computer said was fake had a 
fake backdrop. 

791
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:11,480
So at some point the pixels in 
the soil were real and then 

792
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,960
suddenly they became disjointed,
out of line or whatever the 

793
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,760
computer detected. 
It said every single Apollo 

794
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,000
picture had a fake background, 
meaning it was on Earth. 

795
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,440
So he just had the smartest AI 
in the world say the moon 

796
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,640
missions are fake. 
Putin was there. 

797
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,720
There's a video at cereal.com. 
But Putin being shown the 

798
00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:34,360
results of the AI doesn't look 
surprised. 

799
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,440
In fact, he looks discouraged 
that maybe he I won't be able to

800
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,920
blackmail the United States 
anymore. 

801
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,560
And that's in fact what a smart 
chess player would do. 

802
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,800
I could have a picture of a 
world leader with a prostitute, 

803
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,160
upload it to the Internet, and 
ruin that person's career. 

804
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,400
But then I can't sell the 
picture for a dollar, can I? 

805
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,160
Or I could blackmail them 
1,000,000 this year, 2 million 

806
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,240
next year, 10 million the year 
after that. 

807
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,960
And that's what China and the 
Soviet Union are doing. 

808
00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:03,200
They're blackmailing the United 
States. 

809
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,680
Another good reason for the 
truth to come out. 

810
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,880
In that case, Bart, what is the 
difference between Hollywood and

811
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:17,800
NASA? 
I don't know, Hollywood might 

812
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:25,320
have a bigger budget. 
Well, I mean, Hollywood and the 

813
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,520
Pentagon or whatever is called 
the War Department after World 

814
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,240
War 2, and I think they renamed 
it that. 

815
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,400
They've always been working 
together. 

816
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,440
And I don't think there's in and
of itself anything wrong with 

817
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,360
that. 
If, and I don't know that it was

818
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:44,440
if World War Two were justified 
coming to the aid of allies, 

819
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:49,120
which seems like it could be 
justified making films about 

820
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:54,080
patriotism or joining the army 
or by, you know, stock bonds. 

821
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,640
And, you know, what are those 
things? 

822
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,440
Ration cards, getting people a 
positive attitude. 

823
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,240
I don't think there's anything 
wrong with that. 

824
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:07,280
However, I think Congress passed
a law in 1947 that they said now

825
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:11,400
that the war is over, we can't 
use the media to deceive people.

826
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,280
So they made it illegal for the 
media to deceive people. 

827
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:22,000
And then in 1958, I think there 
was a big quiz show scandal. 

828
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,560
Quiz shows were really big. 
And Time magazine had on their 

829
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,920
cover the smartest man in 
America who appeared to be that 

830
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,120
way because he got the answers 
in advance. 

831
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:37,240
So they wrote another law that 
says you can't use television to

832
00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:39,400
deceive people, which, of 
course, the federal government 

833
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,400
broke when they faked the moon 
landing. 

834
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:45,680
I think President Obama 
rescinded that and now says the 

835
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:51,280
federal government can use lies 
and video and television in 

836
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,360
order to coerce the public into 
whatever opinion the government 

837
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,280
wants them to have. 
They made that legal. 

838
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,920
They made lying to their own 
people legal. 

839
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:04,080
Now you can make murder legal. 
You could say it's now legal for

840
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,600
you to kill anybody you want. 
Does that actually make it legal

841
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,680
or right? 
You see, So what these criminals

842
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,280
do is they write laws to make 
their crimes legal. 

843
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,600
That's what they do. 
That's how bad it is. 

844
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:28,920
Do you think Elon knows? 
Absolutely. 

845
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,120
Yeah. 
I know he has a copy of my book 

846
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:37,240
when it first came out, and he's
the one who said it takes 15 

847
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,360
rockets of fuel to reach the 
moon. 

848
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,160
He said it. 
So that's kind of an 

849
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,560
acknowledgement, seeing how the 
Saturn V rocket allegedly went 

850
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,800
in in one rocket. 
Not to mention, von Braun said 

851
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:55,280
on camera and in writing the 
largest rocket mankind can build

852
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,760
can only achieve Earth orbit. 
He need multiple fuel trips to 

853
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,800
go to the moon. 
Then he also said the Apollo 

854
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:08,360
success is a historical and 
technological anomaly, meaning 

855
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,600
out of logical sequence you 
cannot have a greater technology

856
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:17,200
in 1969 than today. 
Is there any device from 1969, A

857
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:22,720
telephone, a microwave oven, 
anything, a light bulb that it 

858
00:52:22,720 --> 00:52:27,360
that its counterpart today is 
inferior quality to its 

859
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,280
counterpart in 1969? 
It's never happened in the 

860
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,880
history of the world. 
Just like I said, Lindbergh flew

861
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:38,800
across the Atlantic 19273000 
miles and 55 years later, the 

862
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,760
best airplane can only fly 3 
miles. 

863
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,720
No one has flown across the 
Atlantic and yet look at the 

864
00:52:43,720 --> 00:52:46,360
advancement in airplanes. 
Look at the advancement since 

865
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,960
they blew up the first atomic 
bomb 1000 times more powerful 

866
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,520
just 10 years later. 
This doesn't make sense that 

867
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,000
NASA can only send mannequins to
orbit the moon 50 years later. 

868
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:02,760
Wasn't von Braun also part of 
the paper clip program? 

869
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,240
I mean, if I remember correctly,
he was one of Hitler's top 

870
00:53:05,240 --> 00:53:11,240
scientists. 
Yeah, Operation Paper Clip was 

871
00:53:11,240 --> 00:53:15,640
basically, I guess, a 
negotiation between the Soviet 

872
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,480
Union and the United States, who
were the victors of World War 

873
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,840
Two. 
There was this rocket technology

874
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,280
that von Braun had created. 
He could launch a missile from 

875
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:29,360
the coast of France and it would
hit London somewhere, which is 

876
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,280
pretty good, you know, for when 
they really didn't have 

877
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,680
computers or anything. 
But of course it would hit 

878
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,000
randomly, hit churches and 
schools and hospitals and who 

879
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,600
knows what. 
And when they divided up the 

880
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:48,000
spoils of war, the Soviets got 
the hardware because it was 

881
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,000
physically in Europe. 
All the Rockets, all the rocket 

882
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,040
factories, whatever, But the US 
got the scientists, which is 

883
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,520
actually a better deal. 
It gave the Soviets a lead in 

884
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,280
the space program at first 
because they had the hardware, 

885
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,560
but we had the people who built 
it, who could remanufacture it 

886
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,480
and then go on beyond that. 
And that was von Braun. 

887
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:15,240
According to the State 
Department, he was about to be 

888
00:54:15,240 --> 00:54:18,560
prosecuted for war crimes during
World War 2. 

889
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,880
Had he not predeceased their 
indictment, they were a year or 

890
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,320
so away from indicting him for 
war crimes because he 

891
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,600
participated in the killing of, 
you know, many people in his 

892
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,480
factory who worked too slow or 
whatever, who were Jews, who 

893
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,760
were enslaved to build rockets 
or whatever. 

894
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,920
So that's the Nazi guy who faked
the moon landing. 

895
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:46,240
And he was in charge of the of 
the space program. 

896
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,880
It's kind of sad. 
And what what fascinates me also

897
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,000
about is how the entire thing 
just stopped. 

898
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,680
Well, no. 
I mean, you have solar panels 

899
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,960
that say they're equivalent of 
going to the moon when you had 

900
00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:02,880
the first solar panel come out 
and they're super duper 

901
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:07,360
expensive and limited 
capability. 

902
00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:11,440
And then later, a year later, 
they were a little bit cheaper 

903
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,160
and the wattage went up. 
And then they became even 

904
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,920
cheaper and the wattage went up.
I have solar power and just in 

905
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:25,960
one year I think they went a 
panel went from 500 watts to 600

906
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,760
watts. 
That's a 20% increase. 

907
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,360
And without an increase in cost,
the batteries went down in price

908
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,960
for the amount of kilowatts that
they do. 

909
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,000
So why wouldn't space travel be 
the same? 

910
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,280
Space traveler should have 
easier and cheaper. 

911
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:49,160
Yeah, what I'm saying is after 
the US supposedly won the space 

912
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,760
race, nobody decided to continue
the space race. 

913
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:57,320
The Soviets just stopped. 
Well, it's not so much a space 

914
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,800
race as it is just a normal 
advancement of technology. 

915
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,440
Like Take, Take it in America, 
the Pilgrims landed on the East 

916
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,080
Coast and every decade, every 
generation, they went further 

917
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:13,160
West, further and further and 
further W until they couldn't go

918
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,680
any further. 
Actually, they could. 

919
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,480
They grabbed Hawaii a little bit
later. 

920
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,560
So there is no limit in space. 
So if they went to the moon in 

921
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,160
69, they would have just kept 
knowing. 

922
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,480
Then we'll go to Mars, then 
we'll go to Jupiter, then we'll 

923
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:34,080
go to Titan, then we'll go to 
the next star, right, and see if

924
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,800
it has planets. 
They would just keep going and 

925
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,160
keep going and keep going. 
There's no, there's no 

926
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:43,000
technological investigation that
has ever stopped in its tracks. 

927
00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:49,920
Even today you have nuclear 
power is becoming proficient and

928
00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:53,040
and safe. 
The about half the nuclear power

929
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:57,440
plants in the world right now, 
there's probably about 450 of 

930
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,280
them. 
Half of them are not safe if 

931
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,920
they had an electrical shortage 
because they don't generate 

932
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,280
their own power. 
That's what people don't 

933
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,120
realize. 
Nuclear power. 

934
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,320
The power only goes outbound. 
They're actually receiving for 

935
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,600
their light bulbs in the nuclear
power plant from the power 

936
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,760
station. 
So if there were a blackout to 

937
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:22,360
brown out a solar storm, they 
would run out of power. 

938
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,680
And they have backup generators,
about two weeks of diesel. 

939
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,680
But if that goes out, they'll 
have a meltdown. 

940
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,600
So half the nuclear power plants
in the world will have a 

941
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,560
meltdown if there's a solar 
storm that kills the grid. 

942
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,120
But the other half are newer and
they're resilient and there's 

943
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,960
virtually nothing you can do to 
destroy them or to cause them a 

944
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,080
leak, allegedly. 
So that's the way progress 

945
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,160
should be with space travel as 
well. 

946
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:51,240
We should be able to go into 
outer space cheaper, faster. 

947
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:55,560
There should be, you know, 
houses and and ballparks on the 

948
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,760
moon. 
But a Dome where you can play 

949
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,840
basketball on the moon and 1/6 
gravity and anybody can jump up 

950
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,840
and slam dunk. 
I mean, imagine the money Hilton

951
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,120
Hotels can make off of that. 
If there's a way to make money, 

952
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,480
people would do it if it's 
possible. 

953
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:17,160
The South Pole has 100 mile per 
hour winds 100° below 0. 

954
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,480
But there are people there. 
Why? 

955
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:25,280
Because it's possible. 
It took six times to reach the 

956
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,320
South Pole without killing the 
crew, and that's here on Earth. 

957
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,120
And yet they went to the moon on
the first attempt, right? 

958
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,000
It's never happened in the 
history of exploration, right? 

959
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:39,320
And if they could go to the 
moon, there'd be bases there as 

960
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,240
well. 
There aren't bases there simply 

961
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,800
because it can't be done. 
If it could be done, there would

962
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,240
be bases there. 
It's pretty simple that that's 

963
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,440
the amazing thing. 
To see that the moon landing is 

964
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,000
fake is pretty simple. 
Just read my book or watch the 

965
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,640
movie and you'll realize they 
did indeed fake it. 

966
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:01,360
The problem is these people are 
at large, and if the truth 

967
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,960
doesn't come out, we're doomed. 
And so this is highly 

968
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,360
significant that they faked it. 
They murdered people to cover it

969
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,440
up. 
They're still threatening as of 

970
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:15,000
three years ago to kill innocent
people, to keep this a secret. 

971
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,400
That is a tyrannical government 
that needs to change. 

972
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,320
Do. 
You think they ever will go? 

973
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:28,320
Tell the truth about it? 
Well, from a secular point of 

974
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:32,480
view, probably not. 
And what I think they'll do is 

975
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,200
they'll keep postponing. 
I mean, I think they've 

976
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:39,480
postponed returning to the moon 
10 times so far, 10 times 

977
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,000
they've said they're going to go
to the moon in five years and 

978
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,400
with 50 year better technology, 
they can't do it. 

979
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,160
And yet somehow they can do it 
in eight years with untried 

980
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,800
computers that had one minute, 
the possibility of a cell phone.

981
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,640
So I think they're going to keep
postponing it until some 

982
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:01,400
international calamity happens, 
World War three or asteroid 

983
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,880
strike, after which no one's 
going to care who killed Candy 

984
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,560
or whether the moon landings are
real or not. 

985
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:10,600
However, there is the spiritual 
way of looking at it. 

986
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:15,120
As we started out, the Tower of 
Babel was a rebuke known to the 

987
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,840
world. 
There's a famous writer, Ellen 

988
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:20,640
White, she said about the Tower 
of Babel. 

989
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:25,240
The monument to their pride 
became a memorial to their 

990
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:29,040
folly. 
Imagine that about the truth 

991
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,880
coming out about the moon 
landing. 

992
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,280
The monument to their pride 
became a memorial to their 

993
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:40,960
folly. 
And so I think from a spiritual 

994
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:46,120
point of view, God may reveal or
force the revelation to come to 

995
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:51,400
light that they did fake it as 
an end times warning to show us 

996
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:56,760
how far we have fallen. 
All right, but if you'll excuse 

997
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,720
a pun, but we're coming in for a
landing. 

998
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:04,600
Your website, issibrel.com, 
that's where you can find your 

999
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,280
book or books and film, which I 
think is quite good. 

1000
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:13,280
I've seen it twice, in fact. 
Anything else that you can end 

1001
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:19,960
off with? 
Well, if the powers that be want

1002
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,240
me to shut up about the moon 
landing fraud, I'm trying to 

1003
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:28,360
produce my first feature film. 
The producer is Kevin Sorbo, who

1004
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,800
also plans on starring in the 
film. 

1005
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,120
We're trying to raise 
$7,000,000. 

1006
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:38,760
It's a secular film that's kind 
of a fantasy, Spiritual fantasy,

1007
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,440
I might call it. 
That's my next project. 

1008
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:45,120
If I become a feature filmmaker,
I'll shut up and never talk 

1009
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:46,920
about the moon Lenny fraud ever 
again. 

1010
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:48,960
So Deep State, send me some 
money. 

1011
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,120
Thank you for joining me in the 
trenches.

