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Hello everyone, this is Diane 
Rasmussen with UK column. 

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I'm really happy to be here 
today talking with Steve James. 

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He uses social media as Edge of 
the Matrix and he is available 

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on YouTube X and TikTok under 
that name and links to his 

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social media channels will be 
provided in the write up for 

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this interview as it goes out. 
So Steve, again, thanks for 

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joining me today. 
It's really great for us to be 

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able to sit down and have a 
chat. 

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I've been admiring your work for
a while. 

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I, I think the first time I 
became really aware of you was 

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when you attended the UK column 
live events in Cheltenham. 

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I was, I think that was back in 
April. 

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And I remember you interviewed, 
you interviewed me about the, 

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the work that I had been doing 
and lost my academic and my 

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librarian career over just 
calling out gender ideology and 

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children's books. 
And, and I remember we had a, a 

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short but quite enthusiastic 
conversation. 

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You were like, I'm going to go 
out and do more about this 

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because this is really shocking.
So I know you had a channel 

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before that, but you've really 
your views and your followers 

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have really exploded in recent 
months. 

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So I guess I'm interested to 
hear from you kind of how how 

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you got to this point where you 
are now from where you were even

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just a few months ago and how 
that I'm also curious, I'm 

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hopeful that what you did with 
us at UK column back in 

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Cheltenham and then New York 
just last month maybe helped you

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get yourself going a bit more. 
So if you maybe want to take us 

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through your journey of where 
where you are now. 

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Yeah, when when we, when we 
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spent three months planning, 
going out and doing a campaign 

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on the streets. 
So in fact, Sue and I, my wife, 

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have been abroad in, in Panama 
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Heathrow airport. 
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London, the next second, Gatwick
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And we literally come from the 
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three months directly to the to 
the conference in Cheltenham. 

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So we were fresh off our 
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But all the time while I was on 
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I was going to do. 
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original in this. 
I, I took the concept from Chris

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Elston, who's known as Billboard
Chris online and he's from 

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Canada. 
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campaign now for I think at 
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So he's the original guy. 
And I reached out to him. 

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I said, I like what you do. 
I'm going to do the same in, in 

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the UK. 
Have you got any advice? 

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And he gave me 4 good pieces of 
advice. 

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The first one was remain calm, 
the second one was know your 

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stuff and the third one was film
everything. 

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And then the 4th 1 was let them 
speak. 

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And it's been like operation let
them speak. 

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If you let them talk, they're 
going to literally expose 

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themselves and their ideology as
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anybody of sound mind would 
stand back and look and think 

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you're talking nonsense. 
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So I was quite, I was a little 
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the ears, a little bit green 
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You know, I didn't know what I 
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And I was kind of taken aback at
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particularly young people that 
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this ideology and how angry and 
ferocious that they will get if 

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you challenge that ideology. 
And that was something that, 

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although I'd seen it a little 
bit with Chris Alston, Billboard

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Chris out on the streets of 
Canada, I didn't think it'd be 

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as bad. 
Naively, that's why I say I was 

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a little bit taken aback about 
it, you know, But after being 

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out on the streets for a while, 
you can spot the types of people

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that are going to take umbrage 
with my presence and my message.

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And the message is pretty clear 
that this ideology, it's a 

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danger to society, it's a danger
to kids, and it's a danger to 

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children. 
It's a war on the truth. 

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It's a war on reality, and it's 
a war on freedom of speech. 

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And that gets demonstrated every
time I go out because they try 

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and shut me down. 
So yeah, it's it's been quite a 

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journey Diane. 
And it's taken me up and down 

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the country as well. 
I've gone through, in fact, when

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I say up and down the country, I
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Scotland yet. 
The furthest N I've made is 

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York, which was I went out on 
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conference. 
And also Newcastle, I've been up

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to Newcastle and I've been as 
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the beast, which is Brighton. 
And that was quite interesting 

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too. 
I'm sure that, yeah, I did see 

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some of your, your coverage from
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Yeah. 
You know, it, it is interesting,

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You know, although we see it, we
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you know, across the country. 
As you've said. 

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It is interesting to also see 
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differences as well, even though
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international agenda, right? 
It's not just here in the UK, 

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but it's yeah. 
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have travelled abroad and we we 
just come back from the Gen Spec

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conference. 
Gen Spec is genspec.org. 

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They're an organisation of 
psycho psychotherapist academics

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that are looking for a non 
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people with gender identity 
disorder, which is now being 

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coined as gender dysphoria by 
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But we saw the same people with 
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Mexico, in the United States, 
and we've seen it in other 

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European countries as well. 
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It's the same people with the 
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They've taken. 
This is nothing new. 

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They've taken the playbook from 
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Hitler Youth, from Pol Potts, 
Khmer Rouge. 

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What you do is you radicalise 
the young people with an 

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ideology and then set them free 
to to deconstruct society or 

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construct it in the way that you
want it, and that's what they've

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done. 
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postmodernism and critical 
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it's all about taking everything
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deconstructed it, turning on its
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salads to just bring their 
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into the mainstream so that they
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trans. 
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They'll say trans women are 
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is very confusing as well to the
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from the general public that 
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you say a trans woman, they'll 
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But the ideology says that a 
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OK. 
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trans women are men. 
So I'm directly challenging it 

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because trans women are men. 
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biological men, but I've taken 
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their language. 
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differences is rooted in 
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make a distinction because if 
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yeah, what they will do, they'll
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between biology and then a 
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gender. 
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they tell us now gender is not 
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So under that ideology, a man 
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a woman is his gender. 
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to get to get where I'm coming 
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they've pushed that ahead of 
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person's lived experience and 
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innate within them. 
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And that trumps the laws of the 
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that Trump's objective truth, 
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lived experience. 
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Yeah, it's, it's very difficult 
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this for if you could call them 
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One of the interesting 
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this and I've, I've talked to 
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several people from different 
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Cunningham, who's a retired 
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And one of the things that made 
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when she said this, when I 
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diagnosis of gender dysphoria is
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mental or psychological 
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then said to have necessarily be
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procedure. 
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your mind, well, I think I'm a 
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proceed to chop off certain bits
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you wake up and then you're a 
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and, you know, and into 
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know, I but I think it's, it's 
an interesting way of, of when I

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tried to explain it to people 
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that that's actually true. 
Like you would not nowadays we 

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don't do lobotomies anymore. 
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you know, any other sort of 
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physical. 
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your brain or take out the 
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then and you'll feel better. 
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to me when you compare, you're 
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this to your body and and then 
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And that's not really what it 
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bit top down. 
It's a, it's a top down 

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ideology. 
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whatsoever. 
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being pushed I, I believe to 
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I can't get definitive figures, 
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seemed fairly reasonable, that 
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trans is worth $1.5 million to 
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their lifetime. 
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them young. 
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with the puberty blockers for a 
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I'll just do the medical cost 
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young people and how that's 
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But if we just purely talking 
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child, they'll, they'll go on 
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But what the real name for that 
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say is that they will develop 
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characteristics, you know, 
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whatever, and that will cause 
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So there's the initial cost to 
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profits to the Pharmaceutical 
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And then virtually every single 
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for, for, you know, whatever 
reason goes on to taking 

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opposite sex hormones, right? 
And they will be on those for 

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life as long as they continue 
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So that's testosterone for girls
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And then so, so that's a 
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You've got a, you've got a 
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through. 
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in what this does to the body as
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So a lot of the, the, the 
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hysterectomies and there's many 
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everything's taken out. 
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other surgeries, euphemistically
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they remove the, the girl's 
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So that's a double mastectomy If
if they want to go down the next

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level of for females, which is 
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that a falloplasty. 
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sliver of flesh or not a sliver.
It's a big chunk of flesh all 

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the way off the forearm. 
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And then they saw it on down 
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And I've seen these pictures and
it looks nothing like a penis 

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and it's full of fat. 
And if the person gets fat, this

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fake penis gets fatter with it. 
They look like they look like a 

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thick kind of coat. 
Basically, that's that's the 

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physical size of it, but it's 
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hanging there. 
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what they do is they put a pump 
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they have they have a pump, one 
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pumps it up and then there's a 
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pictures and I've seen I've seen
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think if the if the general 
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would end tomorrow it. 
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how much of this is, is real, 
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posts that I've seen about males
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actually saying, well, I'm now a
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And so therefore I'm, I'm about 
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I'm going to have a period. 
I've got cramps. 

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Like, no, that's not what you 
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So delusional to be able to 
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actually happening to you. 
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something that even looks 
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even though it doesn't too 
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your genitals, that doesn't mean
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Whether it's, you know, 
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a period for a woman, it's just 
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They're actually never going to 
happen. 

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They're being sold, right? 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, well, well, it's a mental 
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They're mentally ill people. 
So it's called a falloplasty for

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a female, the bottom surgery for
a man. 

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It's called a vaginoplasty. 
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they cut off the penis, they 
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cavity. 
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which has to then be dilated for
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I'll say it will close up the 
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have Jazz Jennings and the young
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And they did a whole series on 
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As as a young teenager, he had a
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adults were there celebrating. 
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a penis and they clapping. 
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because there always is, or 
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He urinates horizontally, not 
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and he's had, he's had 
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even think it's corrected now. 
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amount of weight. 
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completely unhappy young man. 
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his mother, which is, you know, 
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I mean, I, I didn't claim this 
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Munchausen's by proxy about 
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attention from looking after 
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So they've claimed this frame 
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wanted a girl, they've got a 
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that young boy that they're a 
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trans elves. 

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parents with trans children, one
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other ones called Mama Dragons. 
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their social status is uplifted 
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child that everyone wants to 
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You know it's awful. 
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So it's even hard to know what 
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So by the time you were looking 
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got to Cheltenham in April. 
And then you interviewed me 

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about the work I've been doing 
in the libraries and schools and

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my story of how I sort of lost 
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of ability to be a librarian 
officially any longer. 

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Although I will still remain A 
librarian as long as I live. 

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And I will always say that 
they're not taking that away 

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from me. 
But So what, where were you by 

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the time you got to Chilton in 
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And you talked to me and you'd 
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before that with Sue. 
So what, what had you learned up

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until that point? 
And, and what made you decide to

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ask me about the work that I'd 
been doing? 

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So this is going back about six 
or seven months now. 

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Well. 
What I focused on up till that 

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point really is what really 
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males identifying as females and
competing in female sports. 

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So I was looking into that 
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enjoyed sports. 
I know how hard it is to train 

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to focus your whole life on 
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competition. 
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victories and I've had losses 
and you know, the victories are 

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fantastic and the losses really 
hurt. 

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And I thought you've got the, 
it's the same for females. 

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You know, they're competing 
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They're putting everything into 
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And then can you, I thought, can
I imagine how they would feel if

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a man was to just step into that
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Like the guy that calls himself 
Will Thomas? 

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And I'm sorry, he was called 
Will Thomas. 

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He then called himself Leah 
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And when it was something like 
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know, on the, I can't remember 
what organisation it was, it 

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might have been like a 
collegiate level. 

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He was #400 and then all of a 
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He beat Riley Gaines and he's 
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So I was quite aware of that 
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also I was working in the fire 
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appearance policy in the fire 
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turn up. 
You couldn't have a beard in the

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fire service because you had to 
wear breathing apparatus. 

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It used to be look smart, you 
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your boots. 
I, I know your uniform and look 

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smart. 
That was the appearance policy. 

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A lot of academics come in and 
took managerial positions in the

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human resources department, and 
they wrote the new appearance. 

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Policy. 
And it started off saying if you

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turn, turn up at work, you can 
identify as whatever sex sex you

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want and then you'll be able to 
use the appropriate facilities 

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for that. 
And I'm like, what this is this 

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is crazy. 
I don't know if you use the term

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sex or gender, I can't remember,
but it was crazy. 

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It was so crazy, everybody, 
nobody took any notice of it. 

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But I, I was like, I kind of 
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And I thought, this really isn't
right. 

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So I had knowledge that there 
was some kind of institutional 

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push coming from above that was 
trying to dictate our kind of 

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like social norms and values. 
You could see that. 

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So to kind of answer your 
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the institutions and I knew that
it was in sports and I did a lot

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of research on the sports aspect
because that's what kind of 

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triggered me more than anything.
But it, it was only really 

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since, since after I met you at 
Cheltenham and I went on the 

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streets and then realised how 
many radical young people were, 

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were believing that men could be
women. 

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They were young in inverted 
commas, trans people coming up. 

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I, I, one of the signs says 
there's no such thing as a 

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transgender child. 
And they were coming up saying 

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I'm a trans child and I'm like, 
well, you look like a girl to me

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because you are a girl and you, 
you look like a bloke to me. 

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The younger ones were the girls.
The older ones were, were the, 

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were the males basically. 
And we can go into why that is 

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coming up, but I didn't, I just 
didn't really. 

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I was my knowledge base wasn't 
that good, but I've done a 

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massive amount of research since
first going out on the street 

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because I I didn't have the best
arguments to be able to counter 

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the points other than basic 
reality that a man's a man and a

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woman's a woman. 
But I've learned so much now 

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about how this ideology has 
spread between different 

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demographics of people and how 
it's affected so many people as 

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well. 
So of I see the the younger 

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people, the younger boys and 
girls, but predominantly girls 

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as victims of this ideology, 
these are the one they're 

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identifying as trans because a 
lot of them have autism. 

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A lot of them have other 
different traumas in their 

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lives, different traumatic 
comorbidities. 

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They may have been A lot of 
these girls have been sexually 

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assaulted and all of a sudden 
they're going through puberty 

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and they're getting attention 
off males and they don't want 

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that. 
The old, the older guys you get,

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and these are predominantly the 
problem. 

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These are the middle aged men, 
but you're getting younger men 

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as well in the 20s doing this or
identifying as being trans and 

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they're purely doing it in. 
From my perspective, I believe 

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that it's purely from a 
fetishistic sexual arousal point

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of view. 
There's a condition called 

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autogynophilia where men get a 
sexual kick or sexual arousal by

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imagining themselves becoming a 
woman. 

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So you've got these and these 
predominantly, you know, driven 

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by these type of men. 
I know it's coming from above. 

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You know, they want to change 
society, but these are 

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misogynistic men. 
So I've now come across a whole 

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group of, of women feminists 
fighting this. 

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You know, they call it, they've,
they've taken back this word 

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turf trans exclusionary radical 
feminists, right? 

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And I've met loads of these 
women. 

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They're fantastic. 
And they, they've been coming up

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to me on the street saying thank
you for doing what you're doing.

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But I didn't realise how much 
this agenda had impacted them as

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well. 
So, so you've got, you've got 

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women that are these women that 
are victims of this because 

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you've got these predatory males
coming into female spaces. 

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And it's yeah. 
So it's a completely 

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misogynistic agenda from their 
level. 

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And I've, I've spoken to some of
these on the streets. 

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They get very angry with me and 
they shout at me quite a lot. 

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I actually spoke to 1 down in 
London, probably the most 

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notorious trans rights activist 
probably in the UK. 

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He used to be called Alan. 
I think it was Alan Baker. 

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He now goes by the name of Sarah
Jane Baker. 

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He did. 
He told me all this. 

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I knew this anyway, but he he, 
he'll just spurt it out and told

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me all this. 
He did 30 years in prison for 

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kidnap and torture of a teenage 
boy because his dad told him to 

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do it. 
Apparently when he was in in 

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prison, he identified as a 
female but they wouldn't allow 

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him the surgery. 
So he managed to come across a 

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razor blade and he castrated 
himself with the razor blade 

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whilst he was in prison. 
And then he ate his own 

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testicles so they couldn't, so 
they wouldn't sew them back on. 

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And he told me this. 
So, so, you know, if, if, if 

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Alan Baker, Sarah Jane Baker 
isn't mentally ill, I don't know

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who is. 
He also said, he also said to me

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he was actually willing to talk 
to me without getting angry. 

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Actually, I had one of the 
better chats with him, you know,

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and it was quite a pleasant, you
know, exchange from the 

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perspective that we weren't 
shouting each other down. 

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I was letting him speak. 
But he did say, he said now he's

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found Jesus Christ. 
But he said if he'd have met me 

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10 years ago, he'd have buried 
me in a hole in Scotland. 

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He said that was his words. 
Well. 

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I said, I said to do I need to 
be worried? 

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And he said, Oh no, no, like I 
found Jesus Christ, now you're 

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okay. 
Wow, I hope. 

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So, yeah, I hope so. 
I mean, obviously when you're 

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outspoken on this agenda, you're
going to be attacked and you're 

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and I'm, I'm going to be 
attacked by the men that 

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identify as women, OK? 
Some of the women shout at me on

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this on the street. 
Some of these young, 

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predominantly middle class 
university students that have 

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been fed up a head full of 
nonsense by the professors doing

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critical theory, postmodern 
theory, queer theory in 

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university, they might shout at 
me on the streets, but the ones 

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that you know that come after me
and come after me online, 

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they're predominantly these 
fetishistic, autogynophilic men 

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because I'm a threat to their to
their delusion and their 

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ideology. 
Right, right. 

448
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,920
You know, I don't do anything 
that requires changing rooms 

449
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,520
personally. 
But there was one time, I 

450
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,240
believe it was last year, I was 
in a library and I was going in 

451
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,480
to use the, the women's loose 
and there was a man in a dress 

452
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:53,080
walking out as I was walking in.
And I felt really, really 

453
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,520
uncomfortable for days actually,
because he looked at me like I 

454
00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,120
was the one with the problem. 
I didn't even say anything other

455
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:02,400
than I might have looked at him 
in a little bit of shock, like, 

456
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,280
why are you coming out of there?
And I didn't speak. 

457
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,480
I didn't. 
But I just felt this, this 

458
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,920
anger. 
And I was, I was, I felt 

459
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,560
intimidated for days. 
Well, after I left the library 

460
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,360
which just, it didn't leave my 
mind for a while, so. 

461
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:20,840
Absolutely. 
And there's a Cape. 

462
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,120
Sorry, no. 
No, no, go ahead. 

463
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:28,960
Yeah, there's, there's, there's 
been an incident in Gold's Gym 

464
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,640
in the United States. 
I can't remember which actual 

465
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,800
state. 
I think it was Florida and this 

466
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,840
woman had just had enough. 
She was, this one was a lesbian,

467
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,760
this big kind of like muscular 
black woman that had just had 

468
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,920
enough. 
And this bloke was wandering in 

469
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:51,040
into the changing room and she 
made a big scene screaming and 

470
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:55,440
shouting about it. 
She's called Tish somebody and 

471
00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:00,080
she's the one that's been been 
banned from the gym. 

472
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,120
Not this man. 
Now, a lot of people have done 

473
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,000
digging on this man. 
I can't remember his name. 

474
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,720
I posted about it on my ex 
channel, Edge of the Matrix, so 

475
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:12,000
people can check it out there. 
But it turns out like a lot like

476
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:18,680
a lot of these cases, this man's
got a criminal record, you know,

477
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,480
and it's normally down to sex 
offences. 

478
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,880
I think it's a sex offence 
criminal record. 

479
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,440
A lot of these men that come 
that, that dress like this, you 

480
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,320
know, there's a massive over 
representation of trans 

481
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:36,280
identifying men, what they would
call trans women in prison who 

482
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:41,520
are in for sexual offences. 60% 
of the men identifying as women,

483
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,560
60% of the prisoners are in for 
sexual offences. 

484
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:52,240
Compare that to the population 
of normal men with normal men, 

485
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,200
men that don't identify as women
and it's 17.9%. 

486
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,120
Women as sex offences. 
It's it's 3%. 

487
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,120
But I'm sure some of those women
are probably men identifying as 

488
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,400
women because you've got male 
prisoners in in women's prisons 

489
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,800
still. 
Right. 

490
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,800
And that was one of one of the 
cases I wanted to mention to 

491
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,480
you. 
What do you know about, I'm sure

492
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,520
you know, about the Isla Bryson 
case in Scotland. 

493
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,320
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

494
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,920
So do you want to talk about 
that just in case viewers have 

495
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,640
not heard about this case? 
I, I it was, I think, part of 

496
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,560
Nicholas Sturgeon's downfall, 
but maybe not all of it, but I 

497
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:28,840
think. 
Yeah. 

498
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,320
So Isla Bryson was in, was 
originally put in this. 

499
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:37,840
His name was Adam Graham and he 
was in he was, I did look this 

500
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:38,960
up. 
I can't remember off the top of 

501
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,200
my head, but he was in for sex 
offences as well. 

502
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,120
I'm not quite sure if it was 
rape or sex offences. 

503
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,000
Again, minors, I'm not sure, but
it's easy. 

504
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,920
You can easily look up. 
I've got a head full of so much 

505
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,880
stuff that you you tend to 
forget. 

506
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:55,200
But he was Adam Graham and he 
was initially he, he identified 

507
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,880
this female and soon as he was, 
you know, knew he was going to 

508
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,000
be convicted and he got put into
prison. 

509
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,000
There was a massive public 
outcry and that he was taken out

510
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,480
of that. 
There's another case of someone 

511
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:14,080
called Karen White. 
His real name was Stephen Wood. 

512
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,760
OK. 
He was another sex offender. 

513
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,720
Once he was in prison, he 
identified as Karen White. 

514
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:25,800
When he was in prison, he 
sexually assaulted 2 females, 

515
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,760
two female prisoners and that 
then went to a court case. 

516
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,920
And because at the time the 
court, the judges were still 

517
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,480
following the bench guide book 
which said that you have to 

518
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:44,440
refer to somebody by their by 
their the gender which they wish

519
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:49,640
to be recognised as the court 
cons the the court, the 

520
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,840
construct can't get my words 
out. 

521
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:58,880
The reading from the courts said
that he assaulted her with her 

522
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,360
penis, the conscripts of the 
school, so he assaulted her with

523
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,160
her penis. 
So that was that was that one. 

524
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:11,280
There's been another case of, do
you know in Ireland, a young man

525
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,400
called who calls himself Barbie 
Kardashian. 

526
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,440
He just come out of Limerick 
prison. 

527
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,120
He was in, he was in Limerick's 
women's prison for a time and 

528
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,400
then eventually got moved into a
male prison because he was 

529
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,120
threatening to rape the 
prisoners and the prison guards 

530
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:34,280
with a broom hand because he, 
he, he said I couldn't, I have 

531
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,200
nothing else to because I'm now 
a woman. 

532
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,120
You know, the only thing I can 
rape them with is an object. 

533
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,440
Although we still fully intact 
in the genitalia area. 

534
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,440
So that's another one to check 
out. 

535
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,240
There are more. 
I can't remember them off the 

536
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,160
top of my head, but there are 
many, many more. 

537
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,040
Well, I believe one that, well, 
one that's going on right now, I

538
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,720
believe is, is a intact mail. 
Is that the way to say it is 

539
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,080
the, the Darlington Nurses 
Tribunal, which is going on 

540
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,920
currently, which I know I'd like
to talk a little bit about that 

541
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,960
because I know you and Kelly J 
Keane were there. 

542
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,040
So if you want to, maybe I, I 
covered this on UK column News 

543
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,640
earlier this week, actually at 
the time of recording. 

544
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,960
So this is on the would be the 
3rd of November if anyone wants 

545
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,400
to go back and look at my report
about the Darlington nurses. 

546
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,880
But maybe if you want to just 
tell the audience a little bit 

547
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,480
about it and about your 
experiences when you were there 

548
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,040
at the tribunal. 
Yeah. 

549
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,240
So I, I travelled up to 
Newcastle because that, that was

550
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,960
the, that's where the tribunal 
court is being heard. 

551
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,920
Although the hospital was in in 
Darlington and I got there, 

552
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,640
yeah, I got there early on, on 
the first day and I saw the 

553
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,760
nurses coming in and I think 
there's the seven or eight of 

554
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,240
them. 
I think 7 it's. 8 actually. 

555
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,160
Is it 8? 
Yeah, I can say yeah. 

556
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,600
And they were, they, they were, 
they were giving evidence. 

557
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,000
So. 
So they all turned up. 

558
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,200
There's a bit of a media fanfare
and I got to speak. 

559
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,720
I got to speak to them really 
great nurses. 

560
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:14,199
And the case was with another 
nurse who calls himself Rose 

561
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:20,239
Henderson. 
And he, he used to, he he used 

562
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,920
to go into the women he 
identified as a female, go into 

563
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,000
the female changing rooms. 
And it went on for quite a long 

564
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,360
time until the women had had 
enough. 

565
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,320
But all of a sudden on the 
female locker room or changing 

566
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,560
room, there was a sign which 
said this is now an inclusive 

567
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:42,400
space for everybody. 
Now, that only appeared on the 

568
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,199
female changing room door. 
It didn't appear on the male 

569
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:49,760
changing room door. 
So this guy who calls himself 

570
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,800
Rose Henderson, who quite 
frankly looks like Buffalo Bill 

571
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,719
out of Silence of the Lambs, you
know, with that long hair, and 

572
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,800
he's got this receipt. 
He just does not look like a 

573
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:03,080
woman other than the fact that 
he's got long hair, but he just 

574
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,040
looks like a fat man with long 
hair, basically. 

575
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:14,120
And so, yeah, the, the nurses 
have had enough and the nurses 

576
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:20,000
are actually taking the the 
Darlington Hospital Trust NHS 

577
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,280
Trust to, to Corp for 
dereliction of duty basically. 

578
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:31,200
Now, I was there when one of the
nurses was giving evidence and I

579
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,520
do know that yesterday the man 
that calls himself Rose 

580
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,920
Henderson gave evidence. 
And as part of that evidence, it

581
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,280
says it never occurred to me 
that it would cause, I think the

582
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,840
wording was distress and unease 
to the other nurses in there. 

583
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,080
So he's completely he knew 
exactly what he was doing. 

584
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,720
And the nurses said he used to 
hang around for a prolonged 

585
00:35:56,720 --> 00:36:00,440
period of time looking and 
living at them and saying, now 

586
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,600
you're not going to get on. 
Are you not getting changed? 

587
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,600
Are you not getting changed? 
And he used to wear boxer shorts

588
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,840
and he was questioned with holes
in them so that they could see 

589
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,800
genitalia. 
And he was questioned about, you

590
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,120
know, if you're a female, why 
are you wearing boxer shorts? 

591
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,400
And he says, well, because I've 
got the the genitalia, genitalia

592
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,680
that requires it. 
But the problem is with, yeah, 

593
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:28,280
the problem is with this it the 
policies come top down and then 

594
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:34,040
you get the managers that will 
just blindly follow policy and 

595
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,320
it doesn't affect them. 
They're sat in, you know, they 

596
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,600
don't have to get changed at 
work. 

597
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,160
They're just sat tapping on the 
keyboard and writing these 

598
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,720
policies. 
And a lot of these are the 

599
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:46,240
students, just like in the fire 
service that wrote the 

600
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:49,160
appearance policy, they've been 
students who've gone through 

601
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,080
this critical theory and queer 
theory, and then they're writing

602
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,600
policies for institutions and 
they're also implementing those 

603
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,760
policies. 
So these middle managers, it 

604
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:04,840
doesn't matter to them. 
So This is why I call it the 

605
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,600
the, I call it the long March 
through the institutions. 

606
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,120
What's happening? 
I didn't come up with that term.

607
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,920
It's it's a it's a well known 
phrase. 

608
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,080
I think it's Antonio Gramsci or 
one of his students that came up

609
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,600
with it. 
Yeah. 

610
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:24,080
And, and he said, how do you 
fundamentally change a society 

611
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,240
without a revolution, you know, 
and spilling blood? 

612
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,080
Well, what you have to do is get
into the institutions. 

613
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,840
And it's going to be a long 
March of institutions. 

614
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,360
It's going to take a long time. 
So basically, how do they do it?

615
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,520
You get all this ideology 
through critical theory and 

616
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,040
queer theory into the 
universities. 

617
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,680
The academics will talk all 
about it. 

618
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,560
You know, they will poison the 
minds of the students. 

619
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:53,760
And if the students are looking 
up and they look up to 

620
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,360
professors and, and they're 
telling them these theories 

621
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,480
about life and you've got these 
young people that haven't much 

622
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,160
life experience, they're going 
to believe what the what the 

623
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,080
professors are saying. 
And then they, you know, they 

624
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,080
write up about that. 
They go out and you know, then 

625
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,600
into the workplace and then they
implement all these policies. 

626
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,040
And that's what happened in the 
fire service and it's obviously 

627
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,280
what's happening in the 
universities now. 

628
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,680
And you can see that they get, 
you know, in the universities, 

629
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,280
they get tenure for life if 
they, you know, if they push 

630
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:29,200
these theories and none of the 
management would go, go again. 

631
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,640
COVID was the great experiment, 
wasn't it? 

632
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,120
COVID was the, what do they call
it? 

633
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:40,280
Do they call it the beta test? 
So it showed that, you know, 

634
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,120
people will follow orders 
through through the chain of 

635
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,600
command in their employment. 
You know, it was coming down 

636
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,720
through the chain of of command 
and they realised that if 

637
00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:55,920
somebody stepped out of line on 
what was coming down, then 

638
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,800
you're going to lose your job. 
You know, it happened with me in

639
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,600
the fire service, you know, so 
they, they, they realise that 

640
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,400
this power structure runs all 
the way through the workforce 

641
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:11,680
and all these, all these 
institutions and it silences 

642
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,400
people. 
This is why I say it's a war on 

643
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,120
freedom of speech because people
can't speak out about it. 

644
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,560
You know, those, those 
Darlington nurses chose to speak

645
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,120
out about it, you know, and now 
they're going through a court. 

646
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,320
Well, they went through a lot of
trouble. 

647
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,520
They, they've actually taken 
this court case against their 

648
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:36,640
employer, but they were under 
the cosh from the, from the 

649
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:41,080
Darlington NHS Trust. 
The union wouldn't represent 

650
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,960
them because the unions have 
been captured. 

651
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,320
They had to start up their own 
union called the Darlington 

652
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,680
Nurses Union. 
They've got, they've got an 

653
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,640
account on X as well. 
So people can follow that as 

654
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,440
well to see what's happening in 
the trial. 

655
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:58,240
But it it, it just showed you 
that this orthodoxy coming down,

656
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:04,480
if your livelihood is dependent 
on you, you know, you putting 

657
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,760
food on the table and a roof 
over your head is dependent on 

658
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,200
you continuing to work for 
whatever employee you have or 

659
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,280
whatever. 
Institution you're working for, 

660
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,240
you have to, you have to toe the
line. 

661
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,640
You have, you know, even if you 
don't believe it, you have to 

662
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:26,160
just shut up and do as you're 
told or you know, you're going 

663
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,920
to face problems. 
I faced it in the fire service. 

664
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,600
The Darlington nurses faced it. 
Other people have faced it. 

665
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,920
You know, you did as well, 
didn't you, Diane? 

666
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,640
In the libraries. 
Yeah. 

667
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,760
So a lot of people just just 
shut up. 

668
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,520
Yeah. 
And, and you know, unfortunately

669
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,840
for me, I just, you know, this 
is, I want to hear from you 

670
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,320
today, but just to say shortly 
that I, it was such an intense 

671
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,040
experience for me and it all 
happened so quickly before I 

672
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,800
even realised it, that I in the 
beginning didn't even know that 

673
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:59,120
I was saying anything wrong. 
And you know what, the actually,

674
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,280
the first thing you know, we're 
talking about critical theory. 

675
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,520
So, you know, we're talking 
largely about gender and the 

676
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,680
trans issues today. 
But one of the first things that

677
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:11,480
happened to me was when I was at
a librarian conference and I was

678
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,440
placed on a panel at Cambridge. 
The conference took place at 

679
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,920
Cambridge. 
And the panel was about, you 

680
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,120
know, the act of referencing and
citing your sources when you're 

681
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,480
at university and you write a 
paper and you have to cite your 

682
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,640
sources. 
And the panel discussion was was

683
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,000
about whether or not that was a 
racist, oppressive practise. 

684
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,600
Because if you bring, yeah, if 
you bring in students from, you 

685
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,680
know, other, other backgrounds 
to a British university and 

686
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:44,160
we're applying, you know, our 
standards that we have in these 

687
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,600
universities here in the UK and 
they're expected to follow the 

688
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,960
standards to write their paper 
that that might be oppressive to

689
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,400
international students from 
different backgrounds. 

690
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,240
And I was just there saying 
there's nothing racist or 

691
00:41:58,240 --> 00:42:00,560
oppressive about it. 
You're, you're being respectful 

692
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,880
to people that wrote things that
have already been written. 

693
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,760
You want to give them credit and
you want to help future people 

694
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,440
who might be reading that work 
find the previous sources. 

695
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,000
And so you're helping people in 
the future. 

696
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,040
You're being respectful of the 
people that wrote things before 

697
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,560
you, and there's nothing racist 
about it. 

698
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,600
But that, along with some issues
around identity politics, 

699
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:28,880
language, which I won't get 
into, led me to get a letter 

700
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,480
from the conference chair the 
following week saying I had 

701
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,440
broken the conference code of 
conduct. 

702
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,880
And it started from there. 
And I, I, I'm so I've always 

703
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,720
been, so I guess practical 
because librarianship is a, to 

704
00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:45,520
me, a very practical hands on 
profession. 

705
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,000
We don't need theory. 
We don't need ideology 

706
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,520
necessarily to help people find 
what they need. 

707
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,160
And I didn't I I didn't even 
know the stuff even existed 

708
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,880
until I started to get into 
trouble for it. 

709
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,960
So. 
You know, I, I didn't know that 

710
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,520
there was a line I was supposed 
to tow. 

711
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,480
I was just using my my head and 
just common sense like, no, we 

712
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:10,760
just part of what we do when in 
academic work is we cite our 

713
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,840
sources and we teach students 
how to do that. 

714
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,320
And I had no idea I was being 
racist. 

715
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:21,040
So, yeah, it's, it's just 
amazing how this, this stuff for

716
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,520
me came out of nowhere. 
And as well, I guess with COVID 

717
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,520
was as you said, and I've been 
thinking that more and more that

718
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,960
that was a test case now for, 
for all the stuff and for the 

719
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,880
digital ID and everything else 
that we're now fighting. 

720
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,400
Because again, I, I didn't, I 
didn't think that there was, I 

721
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,920
didn't realise the time that we 
were supposed to be so serious 

722
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,200
about it, that nobody in, in the
university system where I was 

723
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,600
working. 
And I'm sure it's true of any 

724
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,640
university. 
I was the only one that I knew 

725
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,600
at the time. 
And I, I actually didn't say 

726
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,240
anything because that was so 
big. 

727
00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:58,880
I was afraid to say anything. 
But I, in the back of my mind, I

728
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,520
was going, this doesn't even 
make any sense that we're just 

729
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:05,120
being told to shut everything 
down. 

730
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,080
You know, at the time, in March 
2020, it was 2 weeks, 3 weeks, 

731
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,520
whatever they said to flatten 
the curve, so to speak. 

732
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,760
But I remember crying because I 
was so used to being on campus 

733
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,120
and being with students and 
going in and, and, and trying to

734
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,280
figure out how I was going to do
my job from home, which sounded 

735
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,240
at the time ridiculous and, but 
nobody seemed bothered. 

736
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:28,760
They just did it. 
I, I, the first interview I ever

737
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,960
did with Brian Garish, my gutsy 
women interview from, you know, 

738
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,040
when I first started working 
with column, I talked about that

739
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,200
and he asked me, did nobody else
question it? 

740
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,320
I said, no, people just did what
they were told. 

741
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,400
And then by the time we were on 
zoom calls and they were wearing

742
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,720
masks at home because they were 
their husband had a sore throat 

743
00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:50,080
and they were afraid they would 
spread COVID around the house. 

744
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,360
And then it morphed into, well, 
I'm, I got 1 Pfizer and one 

745
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,440
Moderno or I got 2A's 
Astrazenecas or whatever. 

746
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,600
And I just stayed quiet just 
thinking, nothing to say here. 

747
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,600
So I, I think you're right that 
this has led to where we are now

748
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,800
at least. 
And that's just me talking from 

749
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,400
a university perspective as I 
was a full professor when I was 

750
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,360
kicked out of the system and the
union wouldn't help me because 

751
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,240
they told me that they did not 
support transphobia. 

752
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,000
And I said I'm not afraid of 
anyone, I just don't think that 

753
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,760
this is a good thing to be doing
to people and putting it in 

754
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,040
front of children. 
But that was so I couldn't get 

755
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,120
proper support from a union reps
either by the time I left the 

756
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,520
system. 
So just as just to add to your 

757
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:40,480
examples, I've seen this. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

758
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,480
Absolutely and. 
That's what I've seen here when 

759
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:49,480
I've gone to some of these local
events and sort of protests in 

760
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:54,600
new castles and things that I've
covered for the column is that a

761
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,800
lot of the people on that side 
of things tend to be the 

762
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,040
university students. 
You know, the ones with the the 

763
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,320
septum piercing and the blue 
hair and the massive glasses and

764
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,920
the beds. 
Like they have a look I 

765
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:07,600
shouldn't. 
Say that they. 

766
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,600
Do they have a look and you can?
I spot them a mile off. 

767
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,560
I spot them a mile off when I'm 
out on the streets. 

768
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,480
They do. 
Do you know what as well? 

769
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,120
What It took me a while to 
figure this out, but I was 

770
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,600
getting a lot of grief off older
people. 

771
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,880
Not a lot of grief. 
I was getting some grief, quite 

772
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,120
ferocious grief off older 
people. 

773
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,160
So I'm talking about people old 
enough to be grandparents. 

774
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:36,640
And they, they would come and, 
you know, shout at me, you know,

775
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:41,680
sometimes in hysterics, but they
wouldn't stay around that long. 

776
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,600
They would shout at me, you 
know, give me some abuse and 

777
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,160
then go, you know, and these are
kind of like I'm talking about, 

778
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:53,520
you know, 60 year old women. 
And I'm thinking what is going 

779
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,000
on there? 
But it struck me after a while. 

780
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:01,640
These are the grandparents of 
young children that are 

781
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:06,880
identifying as trans. 
And what's happened is the, the 

782
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,440
parents have affirmed the 
child's delusion. 

783
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:15,920
And then they've said to the 
grandparents, little Johnny is 

784
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,840
now little Julie or little Julie
is now little Johnny. 

785
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:25,040
And you have to confirm you, you
cannot, you know, you cannot say

786
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,760
their, their, their old name. 
You cannot say that they're a 

787
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,120
boy. 
They're now a girl, OK. 

788
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,520
And if, if you don't, you will 
not have a relationship with 

789
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,960
them. 
So they know that it's not true,

790
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,040
but they have to go along with 
it. 

791
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,520
And they've been, you know, 
they've been conditioned to go 

792
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,480
along with it for a period of 
time. 

793
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,440
And then, of course, when they 
see me with a sign which says 

794
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,960
there's no such thing as a 
transgender child, they get, 

795
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:59,000
they know that it's true, but 
they can't believe that they're 

796
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,200
not allowing themselves to 
believe that. 

797
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,240
So they turn all their anger on 
me. 

798
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,960
Many, many times that happens. 
I, I think that's a good thing 

799
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,640
for us to talk about here is 
your experiences being on the 

800
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,720
streets. 
Because I think if if I'm not 

801
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,960
mistaken, it was, it was shortly
after Cheltenham when you 

802
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,840
started to go out with these 
sandwich boards and I started 

803
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,520
seeing you in your new 
Manchester. 

804
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,440
So I started following all of 
these things. 

805
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,560
So I mean, you've got so many 
stories because I've watched so 

806
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,080
many of them and you just watch 
in in disbelief. 

807
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:34,160
For me, it doesn't seem to ever 
get to where it, it just kind of

808
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:38,280
seems normal because I can't 
just the, the, the, the 

809
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,000
behaviours that you get from 
just going out and standing on 

810
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,040
the street. 
So I'm not sure where you would 

811
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,440
like to start with that. 
I know you have a lot of 

812
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:50,760
experiences and not. 
Yeah, so I started, I started to

813
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:55,120
get nasty verbal abuse from the 
very first time I went out, 

814
00:48:55,120 --> 00:49:00,280
which was in Manchester, and you
get people trying to grab your 

815
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,360
camera and throw it on the floor
or they knock my hat off. 

816
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,520
The first time I was, I had 
people punch, punch me in the 

817
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,160
chest. 
But I've got the board there 

818
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,160
that, you know, people that walk
past me and, you know, shoulder 

819
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,600
bards me and then run off like a
coward or walk off as if 

820
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,480
nothing's happened or it was an 
accident. 

821
00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:24,640
But it wasn't until I went to 
Liverpool, Bold Street, 

822
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:31,760
Liverpool, I won't swear, but 
this who I would refer to as a 

823
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,640
trans rights activist young 
woman, although because you said

824
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,560
they have a kind of look, I 
couldn't tell whether it was a 

825
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:42,080
woman or or a man, but she 
actually identified as a lesbian

826
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,400
I think. 
But she came up and she said, 

827
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,680
excuse me, go F yourself, and 
then disappeared. 

828
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,520
And I went and looked at the 
camera and they always get so 

829
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,000
angry. 
And she went off 10 minutes 

830
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,560
later she came back and she'd 
gone and bought a bottle of hot 

831
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,800
chilli sauce, a big one like you
get in the in the restaurants. 

832
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,040
And she'd taken the top off and 
she come running at me, 

833
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,280
squirting it, you know, all over
me. 

834
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,200
I was using my boards to deflect
it. 

835
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,400
She lifted the bottom of the 
board up. 

836
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,000
Try to get me in the face with 
it and then she come running, 

837
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,240
swinging for me. 
I'm kind of like circling around

838
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:23,360
and backing off. 
So I was covered in this hot 

839
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,320
chilli sauce. 
So it's the first time it 

840
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,720
happened. 
It was kind of like I was like, 

841
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,480
shit, what do I do now? 
But I grabbed hold. 

842
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,720
She had a backpack on. 
So I grabbed hold of it and I 

843
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:36,840
said, I'm making a citizen's 
arrest of you. 

844
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:43,080
There was some guy who I was 
speaking with at the time tried 

845
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:47,720
to allow her to make an escape 
because we disagreed. 

846
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,640
We're having a respectful 
conversation. 

847
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:54,440
But this is what I've realised. 
If if I get attacked, people 

848
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,800
will side with my attacker. 
If they disagree with me, That's

849
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,080
happened time and time again and
they'll laugh. 

850
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,960
You know, we can be having a 
respectful conversation, but 

851
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,320
they always side with the 
attacker. 

852
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,360
He tried to get her to go away. 
I said, you're not going away. 

853
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:14,040
I'm making a citizen's arrest. 
And I knew I was compromised 

854
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,360
because I was holding a backpack
like this. 

855
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,920
So and she had her hands free 
and then she just got and just 

856
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,120
smapped me in the face. 
So I got hit here and here. 

857
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,120
The police have seen all that 
footage, OK, of me getting 

858
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,000
covered in this, getting hit in 
the face. 

859
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:35,160
I got an email off them just a 
few weeks back saying the police

860
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:40,520
decision maker has issued A 
conditional caution and the 

861
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,160
condition is that she pays my 
dry cleaning bill and goes on, I

862
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,680
think, an anger management 
course. 

863
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,760
So you do get what's called a 
victim's right to review. 

864
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,000
So it's not even gone to the 
Crown Prosecution Service. 

865
00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:59,120
This is how captured the police 
are now and how they they're 

866
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,960
able to keep their crime figures
down. 

867
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,080
Rather than put it to the police
decision maker, they've just 

868
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,640
said, all right, nothing to see 
here, we'll give them a caution.

869
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,120
All right, there's, there's and 
that's all been dealt with. 

870
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:16,040
Same with it happened. 
I got covered in, in syrup in 

871
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,400
Chester. 
That person only got what was 

872
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:24,440
called a community resolution, 
not even a caution. 

873
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,200
So not even a police record or 
anything. 

874
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,320
So that that was there. 
Let me go to Brighton. 

875
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:38,720
I've got a court case coming up 
on the 26th of January next year

876
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,600
for Brighton. 
So Brighton was quite an event. 

877
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,640
It's a good video which you can 
see on the YouTube channel 

878
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,280
still. 
So the trans rights activist and

879
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,760
Antifa came for me. 
So I was there on my own in 

880
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:58,360
Brighton, outside Brighton pair,
initially 2P2, you know, 

881
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,720
youngsters, I'd call them in 
balaclavas. 

882
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,680
I don't know what age they were,
late teens, early 20s in 

883
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,880
balaclavas. 
I wouldn't say trying to 

884
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,040
intimidate. 
Well they were trying to 

885
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,240
intimidate me because they were 
getting in front of me, pushing 

886
00:53:11,240 --> 00:53:13,960
me out of the way. 
They'd made their own signs up, 

887
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,920
but that was just the start. 
They were eventually the cavalry

888
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,440
turned up as well to, to join 
them. 

889
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,800
And there's probably about six 
or seven of them surrounding me,

890
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,480
all covered up, all the faces 
covered up. 

891
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,840
They were jostling me, pushing 
me around, you know, covering my

892
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,840
face with the flags wouldn't let
me go. 

893
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,480
And then they come and covered 
me in soup. 

894
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,640
This lasted all this 
intimidation lasted for about 20

895
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,000
minutes, at least 20 minutes non
stop. 

896
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,880
And I was saying to the to the 
members of the public, can you 

897
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,920
call the police? 
Which they did, but the police 

898
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,400
just wouldn't turn up. 
They just didn't turn up and 

899
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,120
they caught a must. 
I don't know how many calls, but

900
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,560
a significant number of people 
called the police until they 

901
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,440
eventually turned up and they 
almost let them get away. 

902
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,480
So, and I was saying it's that 
one there, it's that one there. 

903
00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:12,280
And eventually they did arrest 
two of the people. 

904
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:17,400
One of them has been charged. 
Again, I've got to give evidence

905
00:54:17,720 --> 00:54:19,760
via a video link. 
I don't have to go down to 

906
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:24,120
Brighton. 
That is on the 26th of, did I 

907
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,480
say January 26th of January next
year. 

908
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:32,320
But after that, once those two 
people had got arrested, all, 

909
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,880
you know, the others had 
disappeared. 

910
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:40,680
I at least I thought the police 
said to me, we can't leave 

911
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,520
because we've got a duty of care
for you until you're safely away

912
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,280
from from this area. 
I said, But even if I walk away 

913
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,400
people could follow me. 
But anyway, they didn't even 

914
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,680
hang around. 
The police just drove off. 

915
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,840
So I was there. 
This with a large crowd had 

916
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:03,240
gathered outside Brighton Pier 
and a lot of people were 

917
00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:06,560
supporting me because they saw 
how they treat how how I'd been 

918
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:10,080
treated. 
And I needed to walk down 

919
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:14,400
towards my vehicle which was 
half a mile down Brighton Sea 

920
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,600
front. 
And this fantastic lady 

921
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,920
followed, came with me. 
She was like, you know, 

922
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,640
supporting me and we're having a
chat all the way down there. 

923
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,920
But what I always do is I leave 
my cameras running. 

924
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,440
I have a camera on my chest and 
I have a camera on a selfie 

925
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:36,080
stick which which points behind 
me and I walk down Brighton Sea 

926
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:40,480
front for half a mile. 
I'm, I'm all, I'm quite 

927
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,520
cautious. 
So I, because I, I realised 

928
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,680
people are out to get me and 
they're going to follow me. 

929
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:52,000
So I, I stopped some distance 
before my vehicle and, and I 

930
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,440
said to this lady, I said, 
right, let's just hang around 

931
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,200
here and see if, see if we're 
being followed. 

932
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,920
And we turned around and we saw 
this guy and she went in there 

933
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,400
and I'd recognised him from 
before and I'd look back for all

934
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,680
the videos after this and seen 
him hanging around while I was 

935
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,800
at the pier and he followed us 
for half a mile down Brighton 

936
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,640
sea front. 
So I just, you know, I'm not 

937
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,760
going to shy away. 
I just walked straight over to 

938
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,200
him. 
He's a big, he's like about 6 

939
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,760
foot 26 foot three. 
I'm like 5 foot 5. 

940
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,120
And this big guy and I said are 
you following us? 

941
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,280
And he went, yes, he said, I'm 
making sure you leave Brighton. 

942
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,880
The police told, you know, the 
police told you to leave and I'm

943
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,000
making sure you got, you're 
going to leave. 

944
00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:37,760
And then he starts to complain 
that I'm filming and he goes, 

945
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,040
don't you dare film me. 
He said, I'm here to make sure 

946
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:45,040
you leave Brighton. 
And then he, I'd, I'd left my 

947
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:49,320
sandwich boards propped up 
against the lamppost and he 

948
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,920
went, walked over to them, 
picked him up and, and started 

949
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,040
walking off. 
And I'm, so I'm calling the 

950
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:59,360
police again at this time saying
I've been robbed and this guy 

951
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,360
and I'm following him. 
And then he starts running. 

952
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,520
He starts, it's so funny. 
He's running down Brighton sea 

953
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,880
front. 
And I'm saying to him, I said, 

954
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:12,240
you know, don't you know, I said
it's not a good idea, don't take

955
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:14,600
my property. 
He goes up the steps because I 

956
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,960
don't know if you know Brighton,
the sea front's down here. 

957
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,760
And then there's a promenade 
higher up. 

958
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:23,040
He's about 30 metre steps going 
up, I'm chasing him up the 

959
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:24,640
steps. 
I've got a phone in one hand 

960
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,280
trying to call the police, my 
camera in the other. 

961
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,160
I'm trying to pull my birds off 
him, couldn't get him off him. 

962
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:34,160
And we get to the top and I said
to him mate, this isn't a good 

963
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,520
idea. 
And he said why not as he's 

964
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,240
running away. 
And I already decided by this 

965
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:43,600
point what I'm going to do. 
So he's, you know, you know, 

966
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,960
making a quick getaway. 
I've got my camera on a tripod. 

967
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,200
I put my camera down, put my 
phone in a pocket. 

968
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,480
I run to him and I literally 
rugby tackle into the floor. 

969
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,040
And I have to hold him on the 
floor, you know, until he kind 

970
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,640
of like learned his lesson. 
And I got my, you know, members 

971
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:04,120
of the public turned up who then
started siding with this guy 

972
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,280
because he's shouting. 
He's a he's a transphobe. 

973
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,200
He's got anti trans signs, you 
know, he said and some kids have

974
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,360
covered him in soup. 
You know, he's come over. 

975
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,880
He thought I was from Crawley 
because this lady was from 

976
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,880
Crawley. 
He's come all the way down from 

977
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:21,560
Crawley to, you know, to spread 
hate in Brighton. 

978
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:26,760
So these are these are members 
of the public walking past start

979
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,640
siding with this guy. 
And I've got him on the floor 

980
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:33,160
and I said, I'm not going to let
him up because he's like 6 foot 

981
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:37,800
46 foot 26 foot 3. 
And if, if he, if he gets up, 

982
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,960
you know, he's probably going to
start swinging for me. 

983
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,240
But so I'm holding him down on 
the floor. 

984
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:47,160
And, and then he says, he says 
the member of the public says, 

985
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,600
well, if you get your signs, 
walk away, you know, we'll leave

986
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,520
it at that. 
And this guy on the floor who's 

987
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,760
screaming because I've got him 
in a tight hold, he says, OK, 

988
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,640
that's a good deal. 
That's a good deal. 

989
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,560
Take your signs and go. 
So I just pick my signs up and 

990
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,520
walks off. 
Wow, so that's the. 

991
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,920
Kind of scrapes that I get into.
Yeah. 

992
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,720
And and you know, the the 
hypocrisy of it all to me is 

993
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,840
that these are the people 
telling us to be kind and 

994
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,520
inclusive. 
And and then they're the ones 

995
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:22,120
that are ending careers and, you
know, reporting people for hate 

996
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:23,800
crime or hate speech, whatever 
they want. 

997
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,200
Yeah. 
And these are the people that 

998
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,720
are coming after us when really 
we're just all trying to mind 

999
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,880
our own business. 
I mean, and then and then 

1000
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,840
they're coming after us. 
Yes, and all and all of a sudden

1001
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:41,680
this guy that stole my property 
and I tackle into the floor 

1002
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,000
because he he didn't just take 
him, He said these are mine now 

1003
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,080
you know, so that's you know, 
that's the intent to to you 

1004
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:53,200
know, to to keep them. 
So as soon as I took him to the 

1005
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:58,480
floor, he, he, he was, he 
immediately became the victim. 

1006
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,400
Why are you doing this? 
Why are you doing this to me? 

1007
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:05,600
You know, it's not right. 
It's, you know, the mind 

1008
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,200
boggles. 
So he was the aggressor. 

1009
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:12,840
He'd stalk me for for half a 
mile with the intent to, I don't

1010
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,400
know, to deprive me of my 
property or whatever, you know, 

1011
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,720
And I, when the tables are 
turned, he immediately became 

1012
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,160
the victim of. 
Course that that seems to be a a

1013
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:26,240
pattern. 
Unfortunately, we only have a 

1014
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,520
few minutes left and I do have a
couple of things that I I wanted

1015
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:31,960
to end up with. 
So take your time and, and talk 

1016
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,760
you talk you about these things 
because they think, you know, 

1017
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,640
we've seen these on the ground 
examples. 

1018
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:40,160
We've talked about a a variety 
of things how you got into this.

1019
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:44,680
But, you know, this is something
that we cover frequently on UK 

1020
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,960
column because there is this 
bigger agenda at play. 

1021
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,880
And I would just like to hear 
from you what you know about it 

1022
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,440
because you, you've become such 
a, you know, have a lot of, 

1023
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,720
unfortunately for you, I guess, 
a lot of specialist knowledge on

1024
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,600
this topic. 
So who, who's pushing this and 

1025
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,760
why are they pushing it? 
I think this is really important

1026
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,320
for for for parents and 
grandparents to understand. 

1027
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,880
Yeah. 
I mean, you know, there's 

1028
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,320
different, just the same with 
COVID. 

1029
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:18,000
You've got different levels, I 
think of power and competing 

1030
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,680
interests. 
It is being pushed by the 

1031
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,640
Pharmaceutical industry. 
You know, definitely that there 

1032
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:28,720
are there are certain 
billionaires that are pushing 

1033
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:34,040
this agenda. 
One of them is called Martine 

1034
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:38,200
Rothblatt. 
OK, that used to be used to be 

1035
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:42,600
Martin Rothblatt. 
Now Martine Rothblatt, who is 

1036
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:51,520
heavily invested in technology. 
He also runs the biggest, he 

1037
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:57,000
calls it pig farm with AP OK, 
he's got the biggest pig 

1038
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:03,480
breeding business or facility in
the world where he's looking at 

1039
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:07,080
implanting pig organs into into 
people. 

1040
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:12,640
But he's, he wrote this book 
called From Transhumanism to 

1041
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,000
From Transgender to 
Transhumanism. 

1042
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:20,120
And he talks about, and you can 
see his videos on YouTube. 

1043
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:25,640
He talks about one day you can 
live your life as an avatar on a

1044
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,680
server. 
We'll be able to download your 

1045
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:33,640
consciousness and you can live 
as whatever avatar you want 

1046
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,880
forever. 
OK, so you'll have no need for 

1047
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,000
your body. 
So that's got to be directly 

1048
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:44,400
linked to a depopulation agenda.
For me, that couldn't be quite 

1049
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,320
any clearer. 
So he's one of these 

1050
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:50,280
billionaires. 
You've got another one called 

1051
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:57,800
Jennifer Pritzker. 
And so his family run the the 

1052
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:02,120
Hyatt hotel chain and 
predominantly in America, but I 

1053
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:06,360
think the worldwide. 
And so he used to be called 

1054
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:13,160
Jonathan Pritzker. 
And so he, he for me again, 

1055
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:18,000
these two men are autogynophiles
that they've got, they get a 

1056
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,960
sexual fetish of imagining 
themselves as a woman. 

1057
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:25,560
So Jennifer Pritzker is funding 
a lot of the universities. 

1058
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,520
So when we talked about critical
theory, queer theory, this kind 

1059
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:34,080
of thing, he and LGBT, he's 
funding a lot of these 

1060
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:38,760
university courses. 
So that's just two billionaires 

1061
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,120
I know of and they're heavily 
invested as well in the 

1062
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:47,040
Pharmaceutical industry as well 
as there's an insurance company 

1063
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:51,120
called Kaiser Permanente. 
OK, now we talked a little bit 

1064
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:56,360
about medical. 
You know, it's a psychological 

1065
01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:01,520
diagnosis which requires, you 
know, kind of like physical 

1066
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,880
treatment. 
You know, so it goes, you go 

1067
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,600
from your puberty blockers, you 
go to your cross X hormones and 

1068
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:13,360
then the scalpel you need, what 
you need is a code to pay for, 

1069
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,840
for this surgery or to be given 
this medication. 

1070
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,360
And it's in the DSM 5, the 
Diagnostic and Statistical 

1071
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:25,240
Manual, which is it's like the 
Bible for the American 

1072
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,760
Psychiatric Association. 
And what you do, you've got 

1073
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,640
gender dysphoria, used to be 
gender identity disorder, you've

1074
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,520
got gender dysphoria. 
And if you can diagnose that 

1075
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:38,560
you've got a code and you can 
then give that code to the 

1076
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:43,240
Kaiser Permanente, which is the 
biggest insurance company doing 

1077
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:44,280
this. 
Okay. 

1078
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,720
And they're invested in the 
medical industry too. 

1079
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,760
So it's like a circular thing. 
So the money comes in from from 

1080
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:52,480
the people that are paying your 
policies. 

1081
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:59,440
It goes to Kaiser Permanente. 
They, they, then they're pushing

1082
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,480
all this in in the schools and 
the colleges too, but then they 

1083
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,160
get that diagnosis, they get a 
cold and then they can pay for 

1084
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,720
the drugs and the surgery which 
Kaiser Permanente are invested 

1085
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:11,520
in. 
So it's a whole money making 

1086
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:12,960
racket. 
Did that make sense? 

1087
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,360
Did they make that clear enough?
Absolutely, yeah. 

1088
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,240
You know, I've, I've looked at 
other aspects of this as well 

1089
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,960
with Professor Gloria Moss, for 
example, who's, you know, we've 

1090
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:27,600
looked into the transhumanism 
agenda, which is also tied into 

1091
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:32,240
globalist organisations, World 
Economic Forum, United Nations 

1092
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:36,640
Health Organisation, that has 
said, you know, these are things

1093
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,320
I'm interested in this how, how 
is this getting into education 

1094
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,600
right in my background as an 
educator, which is, well, 

1095
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,680
they're now saying globalist 
policy dictates that children 

1096
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:50,400
are sexual beings from birth. 
And that you and commissioner of

1097
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,640
the rights of the child says, 
well, children can make their 

1098
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:57,000
own choices about what they do. 
So that means if they want to 

1099
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,760
decide to change their, change 
their gender, if they decide 

1100
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:04,440
that they want to sleep with an 
adult, they can. 

1101
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:08,400
Those are rights that they have,
which to me opens its way into 

1102
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:12,240
paedophilia and other really 
dangerous things as well. 

1103
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,080
So I think there's so. 
Many things. 

1104
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,840
Yeah, no, you're absolutely 
right about the Pharmaceutical 

1105
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,960
industry. 
I get so angry about the other 

1106
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,520
ones that I forget about the 
money making scheme, which is 

1107
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,520
obviously you're right, 
customers for life. 

1108
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,560
Yes, absolutely. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1109
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,280
So, so you've got the big, 
you've got the big bounce. 

1110
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:32,800
Let me just put in there one 
second. 

1111
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,200
You've got the big foundations 
like the Open Society Foundation

1112
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:40,320
from George Soros, and he frames
the NGOs and the NGOs write in 

1113
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,000
the papers and then they push 
this through the World Health 

1114
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:44,720
Organisation. 
Yeah. 

1115
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,960
And then then that goes into the
education system. 

1116
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,400
And then you've got through the 
World Economic Forum, which 

1117
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,920
you've got all all the partners,
the strategic partners and the 

1118
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:58,800
partners are all the big 
corporations. 

1119
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:03,160
And that's how it's from it's 
pushed into the policies of the 

1120
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,440
private workplace. 
Absolutely right. 

1121
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,920
And so we can see how it, it 
comes down and it's, I think, 

1122
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,160
you know, it's sometimes it's 
easy to want to blame individual

1123
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:19,800
educators or librarians or, you 
know, but I ultimately they're 

1124
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,360
mostly interested in, you know, 
can I pay my mortgage? 

1125
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,480
Like, can I feed myself? 
Can I keep my job? 

1126
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:31,040
And so they, they lose track of 
what we really should be 

1127
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:34,760
worrying about and, and sort of 
watching for their own needs, 

1128
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:38,520
which I completely understand 
having lost my income before I 

1129
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,160
landed with. 
You can call them, I completely 

1130
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:44,320
understand that. 
But yeah, it is something that 

1131
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:48,240
we need to be aware of. 
And, and I guess you know what, 

1132
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:50,880
you know, there's, there's a 
couple of things that I want to 

1133
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,920
ask you about just because I, 
when I cover things that are 

1134
01:07:53,920 --> 01:08:00,440
this stressful, traumatic to 
hear about, honestly, I like to 

1135
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,560
give people something, you know,
well, what can I do? 

1136
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,520
Right? 
So I, I think there's two sides 

1137
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,800
of it is, you know, what can, 
what can parents and families do

1138
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,720
that care about the children who
are being exposed to this in the

1139
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,600
schools, which of course is my 
interest as an educator and a 

1140
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:18,560
librarian. 
But also, and, and I guess the 

1141
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:22,800
bigger question is because so 
many people are now working for 

1142
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,640
employers, because there's so 
many employers that are captured

1143
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,520
regardless of what, like you 
said that I didn't really know 

1144
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,720
the fire service was captured. 
Like that's pretty, that 

1145
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:35,399
shouldn't matter, right? 
You should just fire police. 

1146
01:08:35,399 --> 01:08:38,359
Basic services should not, 
should not be captured with 

1147
01:08:38,359 --> 01:08:39,760
ideology. 
Like why? 

1148
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,399
You just want to save people's 
lives in their houses, right? 

1149
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,920
So what could, in your, in your 
opinion, what can we do? 

1150
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:48,479
What? 
What? 

1151
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:52,479
Not me as a journalist, but what
can the public do if they see 

1152
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:56,720
that this is happening? 
Yeah, it it, it's really 

1153
01:08:56,720 --> 01:09:02,000
difficult if if your employment 
rests on you toeing the line, 

1154
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,800
it's really difficult to speak 
out. 

1155
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,840
I'd I'd say you've got a kind of
like find your voice. 

1156
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,760
You. 
That's that's the that's the 

1157
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:13,479
advice that I was given. 
You know, I did actually, I 

1158
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:18,520
didn't mention this. 
I went to a festival in 2024, 

1159
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,160
Jump for Freedom and Kelly J 
King was speaking there and I 

1160
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:22,920
asked her that very same 
questions. 

1161
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:26,640
She said find your voice if 
you're a parent, go to the 

1162
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:30,479
school and demand to know what 
you're teaching your kids. 

1163
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:35,279
And what Kelly Jane J Keen 
experienced was that they 

1164
01:09:35,279 --> 01:09:37,760
wouldn't take her seriously as a
woman. 

1165
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:43,080
So she said, fathers, you need 
to go, you know, because the 

1166
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,279
school will listen to you that 
that was Kelly J Keen saying 

1167
01:09:46,279 --> 01:09:49,960
that. 
So as a kid, sorry, as a parent 

1168
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,960
with kids in school, demand to 
know what the teachers are 

1169
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:59,840
teaching your children. 
If you do have children that are

1170
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:05,440
identifying as being as the 
opposite gender, I would point 

1171
01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:08,560
you towards the organisation I 
mentioned earlier called 

1172
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:14,720
genspectgenspect.org. 
OK, check them out and you can 

1173
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,600
once you see there's a whole 
list of resources there. 

1174
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:20,480
OK, check them. 
There's another organisation I 

1175
01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:24,760
come across called Our Duty as 
well, and it was an organisation

1176
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:28,880
of parents that have trans 
identifying children that have 

1177
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,240
come together. 
So that's another one to look 

1178
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,040
at. 
But the big international 

1179
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,920
organisation fighting this is 
Genspect. 

1180
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:41,600
They've got they've got other 
sister organisations. 

1181
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:48,120
One of them is called Beyond 
Trans, which was a group of 

1182
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:53,000
psychotherapists that would not 
immediately affirm the child's 

1183
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,280
delusion and the gender they 
would explore. 

1184
01:10:56,320 --> 01:11:00,920
Why they're having these 
thoughts or feelings often is 

1185
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,840
often is that they've been 
groomed online on social media. 

1186
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:07,920
Right, right. 
No, I can see that. 

1187
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:09,640
Yeah, yeah. 
Makes sense. 

1188
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,240
Yeah, definitely 
genspecgenspec.org. 

1189
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:15,760
Definitely. 
OK, all right. 

1190
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,080
I will put a link to that as 
well in the in the write up for 

1191
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:19,560
the interview so people can 
just. 

1192
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,120
Yeah. 
And check, check out our duty. 

1193
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:27,120
I can't remember it was our duty
DOT, I think group our duty DOT 

1194
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,800
group, but you'll be able to 
search it. 

1195
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:30,800
OK, thank you. 
Thank you. 

1196
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,800
I'll, I'll have people can 
search that or if they're, if 

1197
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,720
they're watching it on YouTube, 
they don't typically see or, or 

1198
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,480
write up some links, but if you 
know, if they're on the UK call 

1199
01:11:39,480 --> 01:11:41,000
it website, then we can link to 
it. 

1200
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,960
So last question I always ask 
everybody is, is there anything 

1201
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,320
else that you would like to say 
that we haven't covered so far 

1202
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:52,400
today? 
Oh God, I, I pretty much think 

1203
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:56,240
that we've covered it all. 
But what I would say, this is 

1204
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,760
just one topic that, that I, I'm
focusing on. 

1205
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,120
I do like to focus on other 
things as well. 

1206
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:06,520
I, I suppose I am a bit of an 
activist, but I think one of the

1207
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:11,560
most compelling or important 
issues that we're facing at the 

1208
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:15,120
moment is the digital ID which 
is going through. 

1209
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,360
And I think it's this agenda, 
what I'm, what I'm fighting 

1210
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,280
against and the digital ID, it's
all coming from the same top 

1211
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:25,040
globalist people. 
So I think we need to spread 

1212
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:27,800
awareness of that. 
I really do. 

1213
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:32,920
And along with of how it ties 
into central bank digital 

1214
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:37,240
currencies as well, because a 
lot of the general general 

1215
01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:40,480
public aren't as awake as auk 
column audience. 

1216
01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:44,240
So I think everybody that's you 
know, that's watching this, that

1217
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:48,680
you know, that follow UK column 
your main audience, a lot of a 

1218
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:52,800
lot of them are actually older 
people that watch it. 

1219
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:57,480
So they they might be in a 
position to speak out because 

1220
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:01,320
they may be retired. 
So they don't have pay masters. 

1221
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:05,360
So what I would say to those 
people as well is find your 

1222
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:09,800
voice, talk about these issues. 
If you haven't got a pay master,

1223
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:14,160
OK, then you're free to speak. 
You know, I have some great 

1224
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:20,720
conversations on the street with
people who are who, who can't, 

1225
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,840
who, who, who are backing me. 
They can't speak out. 

1226
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:27,320
So I don't put the videos out on
YouTube or on social media 

1227
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,520
because they're afraid of losing
the job. 

1228
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:33,760
But I speak to people and they, 
they speak to me in confidence 

1229
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,800
in private. 
So go out. 

1230
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:39,280
Not everybody's going to throw 
soup or chilli sauce over you if

1231
01:13:39,480 --> 01:13:41,000
you're having these 
conversations. 

1232
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:46,400
But I, I as well I'm talking, I 
talk about the, the trans 

1233
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:50,600
agenda, but it's a really good 
opportunity for me to reach 

1234
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:55,160
people and talk about other 
agendas that you talk about on 

1235
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:59,640
UK column and what the UK 
column, you know, audience know 

1236
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,000
and the general public don't. 
So find your voice and speak to 

1237
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,320
people. 
Yeah, thanks for that. 

1238
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:11,080
I think you're an inspiration 
for sure for, for a lot, a lot 

1239
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,840
of people you really are. 
And it's, it's just been great 

1240
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:17,520
to watch how your your your 
following has increased over the

1241
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:21,080
past few months and I am sure it
will continue to do so. 

1242
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:23,960
So thank you so much for your 
time with me today. 

1243
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,200
It was really interesting to 
hear your own perspectives on on

1244
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,320
what you've been doing and I 
really appreciate it. 

1245
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,360
No, thank you, Diane. 
Thank you for having me. 

1246
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:36,920
Thank you. 
This has been Diane Rasmussen 

1247
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:40,720
with UK column Talking with 
Steve James and once again you 

1248
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:44,560
can be found on Edge of the 
Matrix on YouTube, on X and on 

1249
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,520
TikTok. 
So thank you for watching and 

1250
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:49,640
see you all again soon. 
Thank you.