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Good afternoon. 
Today is the 11th of August 

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2025, just after 1:00. 
Welcome to UK column News. 

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I'm your host Brian Gerrish, 
delighted to have Ben Rubin with

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me in the studio and we'll be 
joined by Diane Rasmussen 

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Mccallie via link from the North
East of England. 

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And I will just say if you look 
out to the window behind me, you

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can see we've got a very grey 
day in Plymouth. 

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There's a bit of drizzle, 
there's certainly full cloud 

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cover, not particularly hot. 
So we're surviving here. 

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We'll say a little bit more 
about climate at the end of the 

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today's news, but let's start 
with some serious events. 

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And that was really over the 
weekend, on Saturday, Palestine 

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action, when, of course, we saw 
some pretty incredible scenes 

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between the police and the 
general public, many of whom 

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were arrested on the basis that 
they've now become terrorists, 

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no matter what their age or 
background. 

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Let's have a look at how the 
Guardian portrayed things. 

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Arrest the people complicit in 
the genocide. 

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Arrest the people that are 
selling arms that are bombing, 

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killing, allowing the starving 
of the whole nation. 

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Well, there we are, Ben. 
That's how the Guardian 

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portrayed things. 
So lots of noise. 

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You got the impression that this
was a a pretty brutal reaction 

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with the police and not a lot of
information apart from the 

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Guardian being keen to warn 
people at the end of the video 

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that you dare support Palestine 
action, you are going to be 

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branded a terrorist and you can 
face up to 14 years in prison. 

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Well, luckily UK column was able
to report from the scenes. 

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Let's have a look at this 
alternative clip, which has 

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kindly been shot for the UK 
column by Will. 

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Excuse me, Madam, What's 
happened to you, Madam? 

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They're. 
Arresting me for protesting. 

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No protesting genocide. 
They should be arresting the 

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genociders on the arms and the 
politicians. 

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Hello, this is Will Cole Silver,
boarding for UK column. 

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We're down here today in 
Parliament Square. 

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You can see Big Ben behind me 
and the police are one by one 

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picking off members or 
supporters at least of the group

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Palestine Action which has been 
prohibited as a so called 

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terrorist group for throwing 
paint on a crane on a plane 

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which many think is criminal 
damage. 

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The police are grabbing the 
people 1 by 1 and it looks like 

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these people are going to be 
tried, charged and possibly 

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imprisoned as terrorists for 
holding up signs saying they 

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support an organisation which 
commits criminal damage. 

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To exercise my fundamental 
human. 

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Rights Are you willing to go to 
prison? 

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Absolutely. 
What do? 

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You think about being labelled 
as a terrorist, Sir. 

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It's snortingly ridiculous. 
It's it's gonna be the thin end 

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of the Wed, Sir. 
We we're on the way down to a 

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totalitarian state. 
Shame on you. 

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What do you think of what's 
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I I think it's the death of 
democracy, the death of freedom,

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the death of free speech. 
And it's frightening, completely

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frightening to see this in the 
21st century. 

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We've had it. 
Did you want to overturn? 

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What do you think of this, Sir? 
I think it's shameful. 

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I think it's absolutely 
disgusting. 

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This is our democratic right to 
stand here and protest, and the 

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policemen are stopping something
that is no crime. 

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I was shocking. 
It's absolutely shocking. 

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I've never seen anything like 
this in this country. 

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This is a disgrace. 
This will go down in history 

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like. 
Shame on you. 

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I am you. 
Know. 

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Almost speechless. 
They shouldn't be arresting 

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people that are just trying to 
protest. 

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Most of them are retirees. 
We've seen retired vicars, we've

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seen doctors, we've seen 
grandparents, peaceful people 

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just protesting against the 
genocide of being arrested by 

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the Met Police who don't have 
the brains to think for 

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themselves. 
They're just foot soldiers for a

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genocide. 
They're following orders. 

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They're orders of a genocidal 
government that is committing 

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genocide right now in Israel. 
Ron's commander. 

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Is this a proportion of 
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We're enforcing people that are 
breaching legislation, Sir, do 

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people not have a right to free 
speech? 

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What do you think about this 
terrorist classification for 

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criminal damage? 
It's absolutely absurd. 

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Palestine Action are a group 
that peacefully protested about 

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a genocide that's killed. 
Depending on who you hear. 

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400,000 official #60,000 odd, 
but it's probably going to be. 

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Far more than that. 
And at the end of the day, they 

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were doing the work that other 
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Wanted them to do. 
Now they've been prescribed as 

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terrorists because they threw 
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Nah, not my cup of tea. 
This isn't Britain, this is a 

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fascist state. 
It's really simple. 

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UN experts have called for for 
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prescription of Palestine 
Action. 

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The UN experts have said there 
is no internationally agreed 

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definition of terrorism, but 
consensus is that it is damage, 

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an intentional damage or harm to
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not property. 
Palestine Action have only ever 

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gone for property. 
They've made that very clear 

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there. 
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legislation to cover that. 
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trespassing, you know, all sorts
of legislation they could draw 

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and it's politically motivated 
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some people getting into the RAF
site and spray painting a plane.

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They were so humiliated that 
they prescribed the organisation

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doing it. 
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against it and we will keep 
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It makes a mockery. 
Of the Lord. 

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And it's very selective because 
the Quakers have been doing 

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action like that for years. 
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They're not arrested. 
So other organisations have done

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this, but it's only because it's
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that's labelled as terrorism. 
Yet other organisations have 

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done this in the past. 
I know the Quakers have. 

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So they're standing by the 
principles and doing the right 

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thing. 
It's just piece by piece eroding

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away our our rights to 
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democracy, and it's just piece 
by piece, it's slipping away 

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from us. 
I can do what you have to do. 

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I think that we are now on such 
a dangerous position that we are

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in trouble of losing all 
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Do you think that many people 
are going to be acquitted by 

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juries? 
Yes. 

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Yeah. 
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side of the people and do you 
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to come out and do this as they 
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Yes. 
I don't think this will stop 

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now. 
They need to be exonerated by a 

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jury and Starmer and his 
government need to apologise for

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getting this so very badly 
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You want other people who may 
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Palestine to stand up for these 
people upon principle of free 

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speech. 
Absolutely, absolutely. 

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Free speech is for everyone, you
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that I disagree with their 
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will definitely stand up for 
their right to have free speech.

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Yeah, no, agree completely. 
They're not doing anything 

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wrong. 
We've seen arrests for this 

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before but now this seems to be 
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far and it seems like this is an
issue which isn't going away and

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more and more people are going 
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trial for stating the words I 
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This is Will Coleshill reporting
the UK column there's special 

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support for. 
So excellent report by Wills, 

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Will Coleshill there and of 
course the contrast with the 

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Guardian report where no 
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the public are obviously deeply 
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It really shows the manipulation
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Now towards the end of Will's 
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public was talking about the 
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something. 
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when we need to flag up the 
government's other attack at the

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moment which is on just that, 
juries. 

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And the man in question is 
retired Judge Brian Leveson, who

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the UK column has reported on 
many occasions. 

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But centre screen, you've got 
his independent review of the 

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Criminal courts Part 1. 
We just wanted to make sure 

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people knew that aside from 
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quite clear, and many people are
commenting on this, that he 

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seems determined to get rid of 
more and more opportunities for 

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people to be tried by a jury of 
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We noticed that on the front 
cover he's also promoting the 

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Talmud uniquely, amongst other 
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So make your own mind up. 
But of course, if we have a look

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at what Keir Starmer is talking 
about at the moment, then he is 

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pushing heavily of course, for 
things to go in Israel's favour 

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in Gaza. 
Let's have a listen to this 

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little clip from the 29th of 
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On the 7th of October 2023, 
Hamas perpetrated the worst 

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massacre in Israel's history. 
Every day since then, the horror

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has continued. 
The hostages are still being 

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held today. 
The Palestinian people have 

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endured terrible suffering. 
Now in Gaza, because of a 

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catastrophic failure of aid, we 
see starving babies, children 

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too weak to stand, images that 
will stay with us for a 

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lifetime. 
Our goal remains a safe and 

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secure Israel alongside A viable
and sovereign Palestinian state.

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Well, there we are. 
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his full speech was edited, but 
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say was not changed. 
It's clear that the priority is 

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Israel, and all the troubles in 
Gaza are simply the result of 

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not being able to get food in. 
No mention of bombing and 

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indiscriminate killing at all. 
It's simply a problem in getting

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food in. 
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He has also made a recent 
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out on Defence HQ, the 
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machine. 
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Israeli government's decision to
further escalate it's offensive 

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and Gaza is wrong and we urge it
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Then again, he's talking about 
humanitarian aid, but he goes on

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to say that together with our 
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term plan to secure peace in the
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solution and ultimately achieve 
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Palestinians and Israelis. 
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gloss over it. 
But the key thing is, while he's

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supposedly talking peace, UK, 
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in the EU are going to pump in 
the weapons to keep that 

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slaughter of the Palestinians in
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So the hypocrisy, truly 
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But now we've reached the stage 
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the streets protesting about 
this genocide and brutality have

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become the terrorists. 
And not only that, of course, we

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are seeing attack on Jewish 
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Thank you very much for the 
viewer who picked up this Oxford

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Mail report. 
This is Miriam Margols, who was 

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one of the Harry Potter stars as
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And what's the attack about? 
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She's Jewish herself. 
She spoke to the big issue about

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Israel's military campaign in 
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She said it reminded her of the 
Holocaust and added, the 

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terrible thing I face is that 
Hitler won. 

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He changed us. 
He made us like him. 

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So this lady clearly very upset 
and disturbed at what she was 

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seeing happen. 
But what was the result? 

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Well, the result was a massive 
attack on a by the campaign 

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against anti semitism. 
Now I've attributed the marks of

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the remarks in the paper which 
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the chief executive, Gideon 
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He said, well, the organisation 
said the remarks are repugnant. 

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The fact she was born Jewish 
does not give her licence to use

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her immense platform to spread, 
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It went on to say this has to be
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She must be shunned by the 
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and bowed until now. 
So there you have it. 

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You can be Jewish, you can 
criticise the Israeli government

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for its policy of killing in 
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You will then be attacked by 
organisations which as we'll see

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from this next image, boasts 
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the police, CPS and regulatory 
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to enforce rules and regulations
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be anti Semitic. 
But I'm going to say to you, I 

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found this really a dangerous 
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people themselves are now being 
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these horrors in the Middle East
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their agents which are operating
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government agencies and the 
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whether you're Jewish or non 
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Seems to be the playbook, yes. 
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in at this point because of 
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money for the weapons and the 
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into Israel to help it 
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we've got an NHS that is in 
absolute chaos in UK. 

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Yes, very much. 
Thanks, Brian, and hello, 

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everyone. 
It's good to be here today. 

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I wanted to follow up on a 
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all, from May of 2024, it was 
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covered this issue of the new 
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put around the country. 
But this took off recently, came

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from a viewer in Concert, County
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Up here where I am in the 
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about the local hospital that is
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town, or that at least that's 
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The existing hospital in concert
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Community Hospital, which opened
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The NHS says the problem is that
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Now the new hospital is meant to
be built near the site of this 

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sculpture called the Terrace 
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This consists of two measuring 
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an engineer's level. 
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meant to work the watershed 
between the upland, the moorland

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landscape and the extremes of 
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The significance of this is that
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once actually once Europe's 
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landmark is very important. 
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addition to the corruption and, 
and the waste that might be 

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happening with this hospital, 
which we're going to look at, 

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this is happening around England
by the way, is that it's 

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possible that this landmark 
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the beautiful land that 
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So after I received this tip 
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of a little photojournalism 
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This report comes from this 
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new hospital site, apparently, 
which has been confirmed last 

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month by the BBC now that the 
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will be taking place. 
It's near a big retail park area

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where the old steel factory used
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So here's a couple of photos, 
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the engineering site where 
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the ground. 
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that the ground is not 
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guess they're doing it anyway. 
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overall story of the hospitals 
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particular concern. 
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Genesis, which took over 
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was in the 90s when the steel 
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project took over to try to do 
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off to the left of the town 
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provides in 2024, we can see 
that there's more housing that's

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taking over most of the steel 
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You can see the big the big 
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retail park. 
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take place, to be built over the
the green space to the sort of 

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the left of it. 
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as I said, a lot of the city. 
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look at this from a wider 
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start to see the problems and, 
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place. 
If you go back to 2019, the 

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general election was part of the
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think about, you know, what 
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the hospitals. 
There he is in October of 2020 

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with buildback better of course,
in the background because we're 

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going back to this time. 
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would be built as a package 
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hospitals. 
At the time this was called the 

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health infrastructure plan, said
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building programme in a 
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And the Shotley Bridge Hospital 
and concept was going to be part

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of this at the time, just to 
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where we were in the timeline 
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The dedication and tireless 
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and all healthcare workers have 
kept the NHS open through this 

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pandemic. 
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throws at us, we are determined 
to build back better and deliver

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the biggest hospital building 
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And then Matt Hancock, of 
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him to say that. 
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of policy documents and so on 
from the UK government which can

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be available in the show notes. 
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detail, but by the time we get 
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that we're going ahead with the 
hospitals and there were lots of

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things around health boards 
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trusts talking about this. 
So I believe we now have a video

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from AGP speaking from the 
Lancashire area and he was 

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talking about this new hospital 
programme. 

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I'm Jeff Jolliffe, I'm AGP here 
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Lancashire and S Cumbria and I'm
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Morecambe Bay. 
I sit on the clinical oversight 

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group for the New Hospitals 
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What is it? 
The new hospitals programme? 

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It's, it's a great opportunity 
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It's a big lump of money to 
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It's a once in a lifetime 
opportunity. 

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We can't miss this. 
It's going to be great for the 

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population. 
New hospitals programme might 

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seem to not mean much to primary
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isn't it, because we care for 
our patients and our patients 

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need good hospital care as part 
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So there will be a huge knock on
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therefore to the way primary 
care works a night to the future

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with more care closer to the 
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community services. 
And we need to focus on doing in

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hospital only what we need to 
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In addition, they provide an 
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staff, better for patients and 
an environment that patients 

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flow better, so you end up with 
better outcomes. 

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But assuming we get the money, 
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could then start the process of 
identifying which is the best 

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solution to spending that money.
There's a big process, so it 

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can't happen overnight, but 
we'll get there and we'll have 

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them. 
So that all sounds nice and 

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lovely. 
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If we go forward a bit to 2023, 
we start to see the reporting 

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coming from the government 
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billion. 
It was just, I think just a few 

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billion previously. 
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prioritising the rebuilding of 
five hospitals that were using 

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reinforced autoclaved aerated 
concrete rebuilt by 2030 as part

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of the new hospital programme, 
because they're saying that this

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material was not basically fit 
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going to fall apart. 
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as well as many other hospitals 
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be built. 
So this new building, which 

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again is going to include this 
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Durham and many others, is using
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design that will harness digital
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of latest technology for the 
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And it's sustainable, 
contributing to net 0 carbon 

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across the NHS. 
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incorporating learning from the 
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can adapt to changing health 
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So this is how they're selling 
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they call Hospital 2 Point O, 
which is a standardised design 

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for future hospitals, which will
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through digital solutions and 
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hospitals, as well as reducing 
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scale. 
So what we're seeing is what 

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we've reported before in UK 
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towards digital management of 
health, less focus on physical 

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space, less focus on human 
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the doctors who support people. 
So going forward now to 2025, we

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are now seeing with Labour and 
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And what we're seeing is a 
report that came out basically 

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they did a review of what the 
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the new hospital programme. 
So we have a quote from this 

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policy paper that was published 
in January this year from West 

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Streeting, our health secretary,
saying the NHS is quite 

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literally crumbling. 
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sentences. 
I just wanted to highlight that 

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the, the report itself, 
basically what they did is an 

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evaluation of where we were with
the hospital situation in, in 

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England to make it sort of 
prioritise what needed to be 

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rebuilt, what was the most 
important thing to do, using 

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something a multi criteria 
decision support analysis tool 

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to look at which hospitals need 
to be prioritised and what, what

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could wait. 
So it's a map here again, you 

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can see this again in the policy
documents yourself if you can't 

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see it well on the screen 
showing which hospitals had been

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highlighted to be part of the 
scheme and which ones were not 

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and which ones were going to be 
prioritised because of this 

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concrete problem we see in this 
list, there was a list of 

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different waves through what, 
whether we're going to be 

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prioritising which hospitals. 
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Hospital in concept is in table 
two, wave one, as you can see in

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the report to start construction
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And as we saw with my photos at 
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are starting to look at the land
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I went to also take some photos 
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Community Hospital in concert. 
These are my photos. 

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Can't really see the signs 
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the the bushes haven't been 
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But that's the sign to the 
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outside of the hospital. 
I didn't go inside. 

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I didn't want to draw any 
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But that's the outside. 
The hospital still look like 

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it's in place, but they say it's
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fixed. 
Apparently that's the problem 

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and there's a sign here of the 
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offer. 
There are some people in the 

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community who, from what I've 
heard, are concerned that some 

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of these services will be going 
away. 

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The new hospital, even though 
it's meant to cost about £500 

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million to build, I believe is 
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it. 
And they're so they're concerned

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that because of the size of the 
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will be a decrease in services. 
And I want to also highlight 

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here the BBC reporting of the 
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time where there was a lot of 
back and forth about what was 

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going to happen. 
So first we see here September 

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2023, the replacement is going 
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They they talk about issues with
funding, issues with resources. 

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October 2023. 
I've got several links here too.

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These are all BBC articles. 
Many millions of pounds over 

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budget. 
A hospital plan reviewed over 

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spiralling costs. 
This was in September 2024. 

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Just reading the headlines here.
There was a home skiing that was

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put on hold as the new hospital 
has been put under review where 

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they were talking about building
homes for elderly people. 

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Calling it a health village. 
Sounds a little bit concerning 

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to be built next to this new 
hospital. 

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November 2024 again, new 
hospital project will never 

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happen. 
So we are hearing from Labour 

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and Lib Dems essentially at this
point worrying about what's 

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happening. 
And now in January 2025, the 

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build is to go ahead following a
review, and that's the most 

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recent from the BBC. 
We have a quote from West Stream

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who actually came out to see the
new site in concept. 

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So if we could put that up on 
the screen if we have it here. 

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He was saying we have secured 
the funding, producing a 

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realistic timetable with Spades 
in the ground for a new hospital

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site in concert in 20/26/2027. 
It was great to see the site 

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myself and hear from Labour 
counsellors how important the 

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investment will be to 
regenerating concept. 

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Labour will deliver this new 
hospital building so patients 

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00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:05,120
and concept get the care they 
deserve. 

459
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,200
Now originally when it, when 
they reported on their report 

460
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,360
regarding what they were going 
to do or not do, they criticised

461
00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:14,640
the Conservative government for 
not putting enough money in 

462
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,560
place. 
And then but you know, as we've 

463
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,520
seen here has been off and on 
and off and on. 

464
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,280
So now they're saying they're 
going to do it. 

465
00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:25,560
The local MP called Liz Twist, 
whose Labour for Blatant 

466
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:30,280
Concept, said when Wes visited 
the site a few months ago. 

467
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,720
She said having the health 
secretary here is a clear 

468
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,040
indication that Labour is 
delivering for Concept and the 

469
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,640
surrounding communities. 
The new site will have state of 

470
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,000
the art facilities and much 
improved transport links. 

471
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,280
I'm keen to keep working with 
all the relevant stakeholders to

472
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,960
ensure this project is built and
delivered within the time frame 

473
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,600
and to improve healthcare within
our communities. 

474
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,720
So the local magazine called 
Concert Magazine covered this as

475
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,640
well as we. 
So they were showing when they 

476
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,720
came out to visit and basically 
saying, well, all right, this is

477
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,920
what's happening. 
And so now we we'll just wait to

478
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,520
see what happens. 
Brian, I don't know if it will 

479
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,240
get built or not or how much it 
will cost, but this is happening

480
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,200
around the country. 
So check your local areas if 

481
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,840
you're in England to see what's 
going on with your hospital. 

482
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,320
Diane, thank you very much for 
that report. 

483
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,040
Well, the words are there, 
aren't they? 

484
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,840
It's always jam tomorrow, utopia
tomorrow, everything will be OK 

485
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,440
tomorrow. 
But what we constantly see is 

486
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,720
that when tomorrow comes, 
there's more of the shambles. 

487
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,560
So I have no confidence in what 
is happening here. 

488
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,160
And I think the chaos that you 
are seeing is part of the 

489
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:37,840
overall chaos to destroy the NHS
as this massive privatisation 

490
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,920
coming in. 
Ben, I'm going to look at you 

491
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,400
and say, so is AI going to solve
the problem? 

492
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,080
No, it's not. 
It's certainly not going to 

493
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,840
solve the problem, although 
they're going to make good use 

494
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,440
of the chaos in the NHS at 
Trafalgar Squares. 

495
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,000
We heard earlier that was an 
excellent report Diane and also 

496
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,720
that report by Willsey was top 
notch. 

497
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,280
That was that was brilliant. 
And last week we had chaos 

498
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,720
outside of migrant hotels in 
Epping and further afield. 

499
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,160
So there's chaos going on all 
over the place. 

500
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,080
And in the background an 
invasion is happening. 

501
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,360
And I don't mean an invasion of 
illegal immigrants, I mean 

502
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,920
something quite different 
actually, as I'll get into. 

503
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:28,920
And I'm going to start this in 
the Oval Office on January 21st 

504
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,480
this year, day one of the second
Trump administration, the 

505
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,840
announcement of Project 
Stargate, half a trillion 

506
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,520
dollars to build AI data centres
across the whole of the US, 

507
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,680
essentially mass surveillance 
and genetic engineering 

508
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,400
infrastructure, Really nightmare
stuff. 

509
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,600
Delivered through a public 
private partnership commissioned

510
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:55,440
by the state, represented here 
by Donald Trump, and delivered 

511
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,200
by the private sector, by 
corporate corporations, 

512
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,080
represented by Massasan from 
SoftBank. 

513
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,440
On the left there, Larry Ellison
from Oracle, basically Tony 

514
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,080
Blair's top funder over the past
20-30 years. 

515
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,880
And importantly, Sam Altman, the
founder of Open AI, one of the 

516
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,640
top minds in artificial 
intelligence, also 

517
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,920
affectionately named by the 
Washington Post. 

518
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,360
King of the cannibals. 
That's quite a name, isn't it? 

519
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,760
Yeah. 
King of the king of the 

520
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,920
cannibals, Sam Altman. 
Maybe I'll come back to that a 

521
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,160
little bit later on. 
So this is rumbling on, as you'd

522
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,640
expect. 
In fact, it's not rumbling. 

523
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,320
They've gone right out of the 
gate. 

524
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,480
Trump's AI vision takes shape as
Oracle and Open AI expand a 

525
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,280
massive Stargate infrastructure 
project in Texas. 

526
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,840
So they have broken ground. 
They are making headway. 

527
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,840
This is the Abilene, TX site 
just a few weeks ago. 

528
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,200
Provide a link to this article. 
You can go and have a look at 

529
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,160
it. 
So it's all all guns blazing in 

530
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,800
the US, but also importantly, 
they're moving internationally 

531
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,120
as well. 
And they announced at the end of

532
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:06,880
May the UAE Stargate project. 
So this is in Abu Dhabi and the 

533
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,640
World Economic Forum, 
interestingly, very excited 

534
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,240
about this. 
Remember those people that Trump

535
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,080
is the enemy of? 
Well, they really like this 

536
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,880
policy. 
It's interesting that, isn't it?

537
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,600
So the UAE Stargate project 
hints at how AI can be 

538
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,920
integrated international 
infrastructure crucially, right?

539
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,440
And let's have a little listen 
to Chris Lehane, Chief Global 

540
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,280
Affairs Officer from Open AI 
talking about this project to 

541
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:35,200
Fox News a few days ago. 
Open AI is also launching 

542
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,880
Stargate UAE. 
It's the first international 

543
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,880
deployment of Open AIS 
infrastructure platform. 

544
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,920
Joining me now, Chris Lehane, 
the Chief Global Affairs Officer

545
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,880
at Open AI. 
Chris, let me see if I've got 

546
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,840
this right. 
You are. 

547
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,400
Open AI is working directly with
other countries, in this case 

548
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,480
UAE, to help their AI capacity, 
working in conjunction with the 

549
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,360
United States. 
Have I got that right? 

550
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,040
You, you got that right. 
We think of this as open AI for 

551
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,520
countries, but in this 
particular case, it really 

552
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,320
follows on President Trump's 
visit to the UAE, really the 

553
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,240
Mideast last week. 
And I think this partnership 

554
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,000
really is going to accomplish 2 
really important things. 

555
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,840
First of all, it's going to help
advance making sure that US LED 

556
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,640
Democratic AI is being built 
around the world here in the UAE

557
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,920
case. 
And then secondly, this 

558
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,000
partnership also involves 
bringing money back into the US,

559
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,880
investment back into the US, 
into US infrastructure. 

560
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,520
So really a win win, a win for 
making sure we're building the 

561
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,000
AI system on Democratic. 
US LED Rails. 

562
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,160
And a win, bringing money back 
into the US to build 

563
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,080
infrastructure for AI in the US,
jobs, economic development that 

564
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,160
comes with that. 
You may get that, Brian. 

565
00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:00,320
Well, I was wincing a bit. 
The idea of democratic AI coming

566
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,000
from the US, that it can sell in
order to bring more money back 

567
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,800
into the US Yeah, right. 
We're looking at global 

568
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,080
governance here. 
This is clear that we're now 

569
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,880
seeing the absolute end of the 
nation state. 

570
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,320
But it's so it's sovereign AI 
though, importantly, but you 

571
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,080
have to buy it from open AI, 
right? 

572
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,960
So it's sovereign because 
they're going to build these 

573
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,880
data centres in your country, 
but you can only buy it from a 

574
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,760
handful of very carefully 
selected technology companies. 

575
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,840
All them, all of them aligned to
US imperialism. 

576
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,880
But it's not just US 
imperialism, it's something 

577
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,120
that's got hold of the United 
States. 

578
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,880
Actually, I think that's 
probably a bit more like it, but

579
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,560
I love that idea. 
You picked up on it. 

580
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:44,720
US LED democratic AI. 
It's a little bit like when the 

581
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,960
US would go and invade countries
to deliver freedom to people, 

582
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,360
isn't it? 
It's a similar kind of thing, 

583
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,560
but they're just doing it by 
stealth now rather than by 

584
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,760
bombing people, although they 
are doing some bombing too. 

585
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,400
Let's, let's give them credit 
for that. 

586
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,440
Yeah, exactly. 
Yes. 

587
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,760
And the use of the term US LED 
rails, right. 

588
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,960
So if you're on rails, if you're
on a train, you can only go in 

589
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,840
One Direction or back or forth, 
right? 

590
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,520
There's no way you can get off 
those rails. 

591
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,920
That's quite telling. 
Anyway, let's have a little 

592
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,639
listen to the second half of 
that clip. 

593
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,360
Is there a worldwide contest 
between the United States and 

594
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,520
China? 
But not for dominance of AI, but

595
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,080
for control of AI. 
Have I got that right? 

596
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,639
Yes, it's a, it's a great, it's 
a great way to put it. 

597
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:27,360
Like right now in the world, 
there's two countries that can 

598
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,840
build AI at scale that says, 
you're saying the US and the 

599
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,600
communist LED People's Republic 
of China. 

600
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,320
Those are the only two countries
that can build this at scale. 

601
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:41,320
And in this moment, the US does 
have the innovation lead. 

602
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,520
We want to leverage that lead so
that we're bringing as many 

603
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:49,040
countries as possible into the 
US rails, the US system. 

604
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,080
And I think what, you know, the 
president did last week, I think

605
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,040
the way the administration is 
thinking about it, I think the 

606
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,560
way we at Open AI are thinking 
about this in the context of 

607
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:02,120
Stargate International, in this 
case, Stargate UAE, is really 

608
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,280
how can we take advantage, How 
can we leverage the innovation 

609
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,000
lead we currently have to bring 
these countries in onto our 

610
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,640
rails, into our system. 
And I think that really then 

611
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,360
sets up arguably the next 100 
years as we go forward. 

612
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:22,120
So as a contest, it's a grand 
battle between capitalist 

613
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,880
America and communist China and 
and we've got to compete with 

614
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,680
each other to get as much of the
world as possible onto our 

615
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,280
platform. 
Onto US rails. 

616
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,640
So this is the synthesis, isn't 
it? 

617
00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:41,960
This is the final synthesis 
towards One World control, 

618
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,960
because whoever controls this AI
system is ultimately going to 

619
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,880
control each nation state. 
Exactly. 

620
00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:50,920
That's exactly. 
That's exactly correct. 

621
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,600
And we've just been heard about 
Abu Dhabi since the UAE Middle 

622
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,480
East, but it's also just in the 
past few days hit continental 

623
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,640
Europe. 
Let's hear from Jensen Huang 

624
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,120
from NVIDIA. 
Congratulations to everyone 

625
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,640
gathered in Oslo today and to 
Prime Minister Storr and the 

626
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,960
Government of Norway on this 
important milestone. 

627
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,040
The launch of Stargate Norway 
marks a new chapter for AI 

628
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,760
infrastructure in Europe. 
We're entering a new industrial 

629
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,160
era. 
Just as electricity and the 

630
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,680
Internet became foundational to 
modern life, AI will become 

631
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,320
essential infrastructure. 
Every country will build it. 

632
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:34,440
Every industry will depend on 
it. 

633
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,960
AI is no longer hand coded. 
It is trained. 

634
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,520
It is refined with massive 
compute. 

635
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,800
It is deployed into factories, 
research labs and digital 

636
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,800
services. 
Stargate Norway will be powered 

637
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,400
by GB 300 Super chips and 
connect it with NB Link. 

638
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,520
It is designed to scale to 
hundreds of thousands of GPUs 

639
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:02,040
and support the most advanced 
models in training, reasoning 

640
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,400
and real time inference. 
Congratulations to N Scale and 

641
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,160
to Josh Payne and the teams who 
helped make this possible. 

642
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,720
And congratulations to Sam and 
Open AI on being part of this 

643
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:18,120
important first for the region. 
We're proud to support this 

644
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:24,760
effort to send talk. 
To some tack. 

645
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,120
What came into my mind, mind 
then was I think this this 

646
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,800
story, this quote is right that 
the man who produced the first 

647
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,800
Gatling gun, machine gun said, 
well, this is going to be the 

648
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,680
weapon that stops all the war. 
So this gushing enthusiasm for 

649
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,840
what they've created without any
concept what this is actually 

650
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,840
going to do to humanity and 
mankind. 

651
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,440
I don't know, I think he 
probably has some concepts of 

652
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,720
it. 
Yeah, I think I think these 

653
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:54,640
people at the top know exactly 
what it's going to do. 

654
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,040
But essentially what they're 
saying is this is this is going 

655
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,240
to first of all, I've got a real
that that one hits me deep 

656
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:03,280
because I'm caught in Norwegian.
That's where my my mother's 

657
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,760
mother was from Norway. 
And he says to some tack at the 

658
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,360
end there and that means 1000 
thanks in Norwegian and I just 

659
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,920
that really got to me. 
But he's talking about a total 

660
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,760
transformation of everything, 
right? 

661
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,880
So AI apparently is going to 
become foundational 

662
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,080
infrastructure, like 
electricity, like the Internet. 

663
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:24,160
Every country will build it, as 
we talked about, but all and all

664
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,400
industries will depend on it. 
Yeah, everything is going to run

665
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,960
on these platforms built by 
these companies. 

666
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:36,320
And he mentioned got a little 
bit of a bit of video here we 

667
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,520
can see. 
So this is in the north of 

668
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,520
Norway, Narvik, this is Open 
AIS, the European Gigafactory, 

669
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,680
but that was introduced by 
Jensen from NVIDIA who makes the

670
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,800
micro, the microchips, Open Eye 
makes the software, but they're 

671
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,760
also working with a bunch of 
other companies to build the 

672
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,400
physical infrastructure. 
Importantly, the the of course, 

673
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,800
for the PR perspective, this is 
all on sustainable energy is 

674
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,680
going to create valuable new 
jobs. 

675
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,880
It's going to transform the 
Norwegian economy, political 

676
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,560
system, absolutely. 
Everything is touches on every 

677
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,760
part of society. 
And it's called Stargate. 

678
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,200
So again, this is the it's the 
same name. 

679
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,560
Yeah. 
So, so I, I it's almost like 

680
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,920
Operation Stargate, right? 
You think about the way that, 

681
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,160
you know, Operation does 
installment Operation Stargate. 

682
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,560
It feels like that kind of that 
kind of programme to me. 

683
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,720
And he also mentioned a guy by 
name, a young man called Josh 

684
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:31,920
Payne. 
And Josh Payne is the founder 

685
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,680
and chief executive officer of 
an organisation called N Scale. 

686
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,320
I got this from his from his 
LinkedIn profile. 

687
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:42,560
He was also, from 2020 to 24, 
the founder and executive 

688
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,120
chairman of something called 
Archon Energy. 

689
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,360
And it's a really fascinating 
name because in the Babylonian 

690
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,280
mystery religions, Archons were 
the rulers of the World of 

691
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,880
Darkness. 
But I think that's probably just

692
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,000
a coincidence. 
Absolutely. 

693
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,920
And then the final role that he 
had was the Co founder and Chief

694
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,400
executive officer, sorry, Chief 
Operating Officer of Battery 

695
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,920
Future Acquisition Corp in 
Sydney, which focuses on raw 

696
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,880
materials for infrastructure. 
So this guy basically in the 

697
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,080
past four years has founded and 
run. 

698
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,520
Businesses across the entire 
what they call the value chain 

699
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,920
for artificial intelligence from
the raw materials used to build 

700
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,560
the technology to it being 
deployed across industries in 

701
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,600
Northern Europe in this 
instance. 

702
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,760
But before this, he's got 
absolutely no personal history. 

703
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,720
He's got no track record. 
So if you look start, I don't 

704
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:36,880
know was he, look late 30s, 
early 40s, young guy. 

705
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,600
If you've got his LinkedIn 
profile, it stops there at 2021.

706
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,320
We don't know who this guy is, 
who is Josh Payne? 

707
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,200
And this is really crucial, 
right, because he's building 

708
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,640
foundational infrastructure in 
the north of Europe, but also 

709
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,440
from AUK perspective, he's 
building in in England too. 

710
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,880
Because back in January they 
announced N Scale announced the 

711
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:04,200
investment of $2.5 billion in 
the UK data centre industry over

712
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,400
the next three years. 
And they are actually, they've 

713
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,920
already broken ground on another
one of these data centres in 

714
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,360
Loughton, in East London, in 
Epping Forest. 

715
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,480
And Peter Kyle, the Science, 
Innovation and Technology 

716
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,400
secretary, said that their 
support N scale support will 

717
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,040
serve as a catalyst for 
innovation. 

718
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,240
Sending a clear message to 
Britain is the perfect home from

719
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:29,320
home to drive growth home from 
home. 

720
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,680
Home from home suggests people 
that don't live here, right? 

721
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,800
This is international investors 
coming in and using this 

722
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,280
infrastructure. 
This guy who's only just turned 

723
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,560
up four years ago has been given
hundreds of 1,000,000 billions 

724
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,280
of dollars to build this 
infrastructure. 

725
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,200
He's doing joint press releases 
with the Secretary of State. 

726
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,880
The BBC is running puff pieces 
saying that this is going to 

727
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,080
deliver jobs into East London. 
And we've got absolutely no idea

728
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,440
where this has come from. 
But we do know that there's an 

729
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,240
organisation called Open AI at 
the centre of it all, with a 

730
00:41:57,240 --> 00:41:59,600
logo that when you flip it 
around and turn it back on, 

731
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,160
itself looks a little bit like 
that. 

732
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,760
That's a coincidence I'm sure, 
Ben, of course. 

733
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,760
Thank you very much. 
Well, this is important stuff 

734
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,720
and the mainstream media, at 
least in UK, is simply not 

735
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:14,000
reporting what is happening 
around us. 

736
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:17,880
So it will remain to the UK 
column to do this. 

737
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,600
Now we can only do what we do 
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738
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:27,880
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739
00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:31,880
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741
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:42,160
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742
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Now the other thing is huge 

743
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,480
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744
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,400
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745
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,800
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We just like to encourage you to

746
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,840
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747
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,840
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748
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:08,600
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749
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,400
Now, Diane, just to bring you in
because I think you've got some 

750
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,840
comments on a couple of the 
latest articles to to go on the 

751
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,040
website. 
Yes, thanks, Brian. 

752
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,280
We have one that we'll be 
talking about a little bit later

753
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,880
in the programme, but just two 
that were published last week 

754
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,920
that relate to this, the serious
situation in the Middle East, 

755
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,440
which is impossible to cover in 
the time that we have in the 

756
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,120
news. 
There's two articles to take a 

757
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,160
look at. 
One is by a journalist in 

758
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,560
Lebanon working with Vanessa 
Beeley, called The Last Army 

759
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,760
Standing, the US Zionist plan to
disarm the Middle East. 

760
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,760
And the other one is Vanessa's 
latest installment in her new 

761
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,040
blog series on Syria, If we can 
put that one up as well. 

762
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,240
This one is about Cyprus in 
particular and US and Israel 

763
00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:55,680
clashing with Turkey over 
control of the Eastern 

764
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,880
Mediterranean. 
And just a bit later, we'll be 

765
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,640
talking about a new article 
related to wild wildfires and 

766
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:01,960
sustainable developments. 
Brian. 

767
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,120
OK. 
Thank you very much for that. 

768
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,800
And just to give people a 
reminder that Germ will be out 

769
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:13,000
tonight in a discussion with the
EM Burlingame, and I'm sure that

770
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,640
will be fascinating. 
So please join Germany's guest 

771
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,920
tonight at 7:00 and tomorrow at 
1:00, another interview going 

772
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,960
out with Professor Gloria Moss. 
Do you want to say a little bit 

773
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,160
there, Diane? 
This is an incredibly important 

774
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,360
interview, Brian. 
This is part three of our three 

775
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,240
part series interview with 
Gloria. 

776
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:35,760
I did Part 1 with her on 
universities and what's 

777
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,920
happening with them, the sad 
state of universities in the UK.

778
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,440
And Ben did Part 2 with her on 
her research on the differences 

779
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,120
between men and women and 
design. 

780
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,080
This one I titled How to Save 
Humanity. 

781
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,680
And this is literally about the 
transhumanist agenda that has 

782
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,480
been pervading our world for a 
very long time and continues to 

783
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,480
do so. 
But I want everyone to see this.

784
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,480
It's very important to watch 
this, but we will give you some 

785
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,200
ideas at the end about what to 
do to see humanity. 

786
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,520
OK. 
Thank you very much for that. 

787
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,600
And of course, we want to 
advertise the Freedom Music 

788
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:13,080
Festival coming up here. 
We are 22nd of the 25th of 

789
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,360
August. 
The UK column team of course 

790
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,960
will be there. 
It's going to be a great event 

791
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:22,320
and you've got the opportunity 
for 20% off ticket prices if you

792
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:28,440
use the code UKC 20. 
Now the other big thing is, of 

793
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,320
course, our UK column on 
location in York. 

794
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,560
Oh my goodness. 
Well over half of the tickets 

795
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,800
have been sold already. 
Just a fantastic response. 

796
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,160
And of course, we've now started
to announce the speakers and 

797
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,440
Charles Mallett mentioned on 
Friday, Andrew Wakefield will be

798
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,560
one of those key speakers. 
And we just wanted to remind 

799
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,560
people that aside from the 
tremendous event itself, as a 

800
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,640
ticket holder, you will get the 
opportunity to see Protocol 7 as

801
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,640
well. 
So if you're not already on 

802
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,320
board, the tickets are going 
very, very quickly. 

803
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,320
And you really do need to get 
one if you're going to be there 

804
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:12,400
and join us. 
Now, Ben, you're going to take 

805
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:17,680
us into the realms of of farmer 
and farming, which sounds to me 

806
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,720
like a bit of a dangerous 
combination. 

807
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,000
Say that again. 
Yes, we're going to have a look 

808
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,840
at Big Farm, so I'm calling it. 
This is where farming and the 

809
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,200
pharmaceutical industries meet. 
Let's hear from Henry Dimbleby. 

810
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:42,800
We're going to get that. 
Is that 1 going to come up? 

811
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,840
I've been thinking a lot about 
appetite suppressing drugs 

812
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,520
recently, and I don't think food
companies are even close to 

813
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,960
being prepared for the kind of 
change that they might bring to 

814
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,200
bear in our food system, both in
terms of what people eat, but 

815
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,160
also in terms of what we grow. 
What do we know so far? 

816
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,200
We know, for example, that in 
this country 1.5 million people 

817
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:09,040
are taking them. 
It took SSR is and statins 1013 

818
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,040
years to get to that level of 
consumption and people are 

819
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,040
paying 2000 lbs + a year for 
these drugs. 

820
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,800
We also know that the price is 
going to come down. 

821
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,920
We know that they're going to be
available in pill form. 

822
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,800
We know that people. 
Eat. 

823
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,480
Differently, not just less 
volume when they're on them, but

824
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,600
different quality of food, more 
fruit and veg, less junk food, 

825
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:32,080
less doughnuts, more fibre. 
And so if you play that forward,

826
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:34,480
what happens? 
Well, we have a situation where 

827
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:40,240
convenience shops, supermarkets,
restaurants are selling a very 

828
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:45,160
different mix of food and less 
food, but also our supply which 

829
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:50,240
has grown up basically being 
built on refined calorie base of

830
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:52,880
refined carbohydrates, refined 
vegetable oils and refined 

831
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,400
sugar. 
It could change that as well. 

832
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,800
So it might not just change 
what's on your High Street, it 

833
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:02,960
could also change what you see 
when on our land, how our land 

834
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,640
is used. 
It's going to be a pretty wild 

835
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,480
ride. 
And if you aren't thinking about

836
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,520
this in terms of your business 
5. 

837
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,680
Years from now, it's probably 
time you should start because 

838
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,280
it's going to be a pretty crazy.
Transition I think. 

839
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,400
That's encouraging crazy 
transition. 

840
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,040
That's what we need to help run 
our lives. 

841
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:28,160
Chaos and crazy transitions. 
Exactly that, right? 

842
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,320
And, and the regular viewers 
will remember Doctor Liz Evans 

843
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,920
did a segment about two months 
ago, I think it was talking 

844
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,920
about Ozempic and these weight 
loss drugs and the fact that 

845
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,560
they're causing cancers and 
there's been no proper oversight

846
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,280
in terms of the regulator. 
And actually they're destroying 

847
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,440
people's bones. 
And we've got no idea of the 

848
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,440
long term health effects of 
these things. 

849
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,120
And yet we've got Henry Dimbleby
here saying that we need to 

850
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,960
transform the food system in 
response to those drugs because 

851
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,560
essentially they are here to 
stay now, right? 

852
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,040
That doesn't strike me as a 
reasonable strategy. 

853
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,320
Someone in position of influence
in the food system, and he does 

854
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,880
have significant influence in 
the food system. 

855
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:13,400
He launched a fund last year, we
reported it at the time, to 

856
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,440
transform the global food 
system, to disrupt it and 

857
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,240
commercialise it for his own 
benefit. 

858
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:20,680
Ultimately starting here in the 
UK. 

859
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,480
It's called Bramble Partners and
we go there on a mission to fix 

860
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,360
what they call the broken food 
system with investments in 

861
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,240
intelligence to create impact at
scale. 

862
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,560
And that's all about tackling 
climate change, obviously 

863
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,080
restoring the environment, 
improving health and well being,

864
00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:41,440
increasing food security, all of
the the kind of buzzwords, quite

865
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,160
a lot of occult symbolism on the
website, to be honest with you. 

866
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:49,960
There's the Masonic B on there 
and also the Hermetic seed of 

867
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,240
life. 
So make of that what you will. 

868
00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:56,240
And that actually carries 
through to Mr Dimbleby's 

869
00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:58,440
LinkedIn profile. 
You can see the bumblebee on the

870
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:03,080
left hand side there where we 
discover that a few years ago he

871
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,040
was actually the author of the 
National Food Strategy between 

872
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,360
2019 and 22. 
And I'll come back to that in a 

873
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,760
moment. 
While at the same time working 

874
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:16,480
as the lead non executive 
director at Defra and also 

875
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:19,080
working as an external advisor 
to Bain. 

876
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,760
So there was an overlap between 
working at Defra and working 

877
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,000
with Bain. 
And Bain is one of the big three

878
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,880
strategy firms alongside 
McKinsey and BCG, who are the 

879
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,680
the basically dictate policy for
global corporate and 

880
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,840
increasingly for international 
governments as well. 

881
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,760
And they are strategic partners 
of the World Economic Forum. 

882
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,400
So you want to understand how 
WEF policy gets inserted into 

883
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,960
the UK government. 
It's through people like this 

884
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,800
doing dual roles between public 
and private sector, all right, 

885
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,120
and being fascinatingly 1 of 
notoriously one of the most 

886
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,880
ruthless, commercially ruthless 
consulting firms in the world. 

887
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,440
And in 2022 when Mr Denbleby was
working with them, they actually

888
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:04,160
got banned from working in South
Africa for 10 years for for 

889
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,440
orchestrating what is called a 
state capture. 

890
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,760
It's essentially they repurposed
state institutions to the 

891
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,040
advantage of the firm, the 
government and its private 

892
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,560
sector allies, right? 
So I can't imagine that anything

893
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,800
like that was happening in the 
UK at the same time. 

894
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,800
Although it did actually lead to
a three year ban on delivering 

895
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,880
UK government work, which was 
overturned after just six 

896
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,280
months. 
Apparently they really want to 

897
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,720
work with Bain. 
Obviously Mr Dimbleby has now 

898
00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:31,720
gone off to Bain, so, you know, 
I'm sure that there's nothing 

899
00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:33,320
going on here. 
Nothing. 

900
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,200
Nothing, nothing, nothing 
untoward. 

901
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,840
Yeah, absolutely. 
They also interestingly Bane 

902
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,280
provided, and again, I reported 
on quite a lot of this last 

903
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,800
year, but it's useful to just 
restate this in the context of 

904
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,480
how this is developing. 
Bane also provided supplementary

905
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,200
evidence to the development of 
the National Food Strategy. 

906
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,560
So actually these are the people
who are inputting into what's 

907
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,800
going to happen next in in our 
food supply. 

908
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,280
Also Dave Halpin from 
Behavioural Insights team is in 

909
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,320
the mix as well. 
And in there they talk about the

910
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,080
food system as a series of 
interconnected industrial 

911
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,480
processes. 
It's a value chain essentially, 

912
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,960
from left to right, all the 
different component parts, lots 

913
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,680
and lots of big corporates in 
there. 

914
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,920
You can see a Tesco logo, Mars, 
Tate and Lyle, all those kinds 

915
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,880
of people. 
They're particularly interested 

916
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:21,000
in this bit though, produce. 
This is the farms basically, and

917
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,040
the big weakness apparently in 
UK food system is that there are

918
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,640
too many independently owned 
farms and we need to consolidate

919
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,920
those into corporate entities 
that can trade more effectively 

920
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,480
with the other big corporate 
component parts of the supply 

921
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,680
chain. 
And interestingly, what are 

922
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,560
Bramble Partners, Henry 
Dimbleby's firm up to? 

923
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,480
They just launched a few months 
ago the 1,000,000 hectares 

924
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,400
coalition and new national 
movement to regenerate a million

925
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,840
hectares of UK farmland in the 
next decade. 

926
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,360
And it's about 5:00 percent of 
our total farmland. 

927
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:56,200
And that will very neatly align 
with the interest of the 

928
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,600
Pharmaceutical industry and 
international capital, as Mr 

929
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,720
Dimbleby was talking about in 
the video we shared at the 

930
00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:04,360
start. 
Yeah, incredible. 

931
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:09,160
Regenerate million hectares and 
at the same time we destroy 

932
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:14,600
farming land to put in the 
renewal renewable energy system.

933
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,520
So complete madness and chaos, 
but deliberate. 

934
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,000
But I noticed that the people 
taking control of the food 

935
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,160
supply were already embedded in 
it are regarded as players. 

936
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,880
That's how they were labelled in
your diagram. 

937
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,760
They're merely players in the 
food system. 

938
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,720
Indeed. 
OK, well, a quick change of 

939
00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:37,720
subject here and really I'm 
going to pray see this. 

940
00:53:37,720 --> 00:53:43,280
We'll discuss it more in extra 
time, but last Monday's news I 

941
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:49,640
did report that A the gentleman 
had been had his home invaded, 

942
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:54,440
rested by South Yorkshire 
Police, his computers taken and 

943
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,680
this was all because he'd done 
30 years worth of research into 

944
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,880
the cover up of child abuse. 
Really incredible research. 

945
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,360
I'm going to say this individual
is well known to the UK column. 

946
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:11,400
His work is exceptionally good 
and over the years he's been 

947
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,640
able to show that the cover up 
of child abuse has run through 

948
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,680
the very systems and 
organisations that say they're 

949
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:24,080
there to protect children such 
as the police, but also into the

950
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,920
government systems itself such 
as the Crown Prosecution Service

951
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:30,120
and the higher levels of 
government. 

952
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,640
Now just to give you a flavour, 
South Yorkshire Police have now 

953
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,880
said, well because we know that 
some police officers were 

954
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:42,880
involved in what was going on, 
we were going to originally let 

955
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:50,160
ICPO investigate and that's now 
been passed on to the National 

956
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,920
Crime Agency. 
But just to set the scene with 

957
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,560
one of the slides, we'll make 
sure that all this information 

958
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:02,320
is available in the show notes. 
This is Hayley Barnett, the 

959
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,160
assistant chief consul of South 
Yorkshire Police. 

960
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:12,920
She said, well, this is a very 
sensitive investigation and the 

961
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,320
victim survives, have 
steadfastly remained our number 

962
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,240
one priority of our number one 
priority over many months. 

963
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:26,200
I've had conversations at the 
highest level with IOPC and the 

964
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,240
National Crime Agency to ensure 
these courageous women truly 

965
00:55:30,240 --> 00:55:33,240
remain at the heart of our work 
and that the mode of 

966
00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:35,560
investigation remains 
appropriate. 

967
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:40,880
So it seems an extraordinary 
coincidence at the very time 

968
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:44,760
that South Yorkshire Police is 
very nervous about it's 

969
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:49,480
implication and indeed that of 
other forces in not only child 

970
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,760
abuse but the cover up of that 
abuse. 

971
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,960
That suddenly somebody who's 
investigated this subject for 30

972
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:01,320
years using primary public 
sources is raided by the police.

973
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,360
All of his computers and 
information is taken and he goes

974
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:10,400
through what he felt was a 
pretty brutal interrogation in 

975
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,680
the police station where he was 
held in a pretty cold cell, 

976
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:19,920
denied food and medication at 
one point, all because he has 

977
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,480
pulled together public 
information which demonstrates 

978
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,640
this cover up. 
So I'm going to say that UK 

979
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,640
column will actually cover more 
of this report in due course. 

980
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,840
But if we just say put this 
slide slide up here, we 

981
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,360
basically got the comment from 
Hayley Barnett. 

982
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,080
She says it's For these reasons 
and a mutual agreement with our 

983
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,920
partners that I've asked the 
National Crime Agency to take 

984
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,920
ownership of this operational 
work. 

985
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,440
But a lot of questions need to 
be asked as to whether the 

986
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:56,360
arrest of this man and his 30 
years of data about the cover up

987
00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:01,280
of child abuse is to enable 
South Yorkshire Police and its 

988
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,560
partners to whitewash government
failures to protect children or 

989
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:09,240
indeed to actually protect 
people in the system who were 

990
00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:13,080
abusing children themselves. 
So this is quite a story. 

991
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:17,120
We're going to stick with it and
we will give you more detail. 

992
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,320
We'll discuss more in extra 
today. 

993
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:24,400
Diane, let's come back to you 
and I beg your pardon? 

994
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:28,760
Let's just finish this, this one
and I should be able to bring up

995
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:34,960
your section and you're going to
talk to us about the subject of 

996
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:39,600
wildfires and really some of 
this amazing fear factor around 

997
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,440
super hot summers. 
Clearly we haven't got that in 

998
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,720
Plymouth today. 
But be fearful of the 

999
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,480
temperature. 
Stay locked in your house. 

1000
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,600
There's going to be fires, 
there's going to be plagues. 

1001
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:56,520
This is terrible fear mongering.
Oh, absolutely, Brian. 

1002
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,560
I'm seeing it all over these so 
called local papers on social 

1003
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,200
media talking about, you know, 
lock your windows, don't go 

1004
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,560
outside because it's burning 
global boiling out there. 

1005
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,240
But I want to bring you back to 
yesterday. 

1006
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:12,280
There was a fire that broke out 
on Arthur's Seat in Edinburgh. 

1007
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,600
If we have, I think we have some
video of this to show what it 

1008
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,400
looked like yesterday before 
they started to fight the fires.

1009
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,800
Basically what happened was in 
Edinburgh, of course, in the 

1010
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,520
August, I was there last 
weekend. 

1011
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:28,040
This is the, you know, the 
Edinburgh Fringe Festival, the 

1012
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,200
International Festival, lots of 
things going on in Edinburgh 

1013
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:35,480
over the summer in August. 
And it unfortunately Arthur 

1014
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,880
Seat, which is the big extinct 
volcano that sort of overlooks 

1015
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,560
the city, broke out in the 
terrible fire yesterday. 

1016
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,560
And this is also happening when 
Oasis concerts are happening all

1017
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,360
at the same time with the 
festivals going on. 

1018
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,960
So 140,000 fans over the first 
two nights sold out at 

1019
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,920
Murrayfield Stadium by Oasis as 
well as a third one that will be

1020
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,920
coming on Tuesday. 
According to Scottish and Fire 

1021
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,920
Rescue Service. 
This has been a terrible summer 

1022
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,200
for wildfires across Scotland, 
including at the Highlands. 

1023
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:08,320
And it says the the Highland 
wildfires are considered so far 

1024
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,280
the biggest Scotland has ever 
seen. 

1025
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,840
And so we're seeing in in 
Edinburgh and in Scotland where,

1026
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,920
you know, you would not assume 
that there was a would have been

1027
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,600
a problem with water in Scotland
because it's kind of everywhere.

1028
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,400
That's just a joke. 
But anyway, so tied to this, we 

1029
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,080
look, we're seeing wildfires in 
the South of France. 

1030
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:32,240
And I last got a very quick act,
quick article sent to me by Neil

1031
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,920
Harrison late last week, on 
Friday actually. 

1032
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,280
And we decided to prioritise 
this editorially because he's a 

1033
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,040
frequent contributor to UK 
column, I'm happy to say. 

1034
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,280
And because the wildfires were 
going as he basically wrote this

1035
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,040
article and sent it to us for 
publication. 

1036
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,720
And what he said at the start of
this article, you can read the 

1037
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,840
full thing. 
But just to understand the scope

1038
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,280
of this fire in the South of 
France, he was writing this on 

1039
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,320
day four, close to where he has 
a house, he said at the moment, 

1040
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,920
17. 2000 hectares of land in the
department have been burnt, many

1041
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:06,520
villages completely gutted, 
transport and electricity cut 

1042
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:10,000
over a vast area and a flame 
front that yesterday took up a 

1043
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,520
length of 80 kilometres. 
So he goes on to talk about how 

1044
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,920
desperately the firefighters 
have been working very hard to 

1045
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,200
stop the fire, but it has not 
been happening. 

1046
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:23,560
He talked to some locals there 
and one, one person said, quote,

1047
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,040
all of our children here are 
taught that the best way of 

1048
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:27,880
controlling fires is our 
vineyards. 

1049
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,440
Their natural fire breaks. 
Vineyards are watered, the vines

1050
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,280
are covered in green, wet 
leaves, weeds and dried grasses 

1051
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,240
are cut. 
But unfortunately, it has been 

1052
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,840
government and EU policy to RIP 
up the vineyards and return the 

1053
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,440
land to the wild. 
And as he pointed on the 

1054
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,760
article, the scientific 
justification for destroying 

1055
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:50,880
vineyards to satisfy Agenda 2030
requirements is based on soil 

1056
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:55,240
degradation, loss of organic 
matter, erosion, low carbon 

1057
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:59,000
sequestration compared to 
natural vegetation or 

1058
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,600
agroforestry. 
So I think there are some 

1059
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,640
important questions for us to 
ask here. 

1060
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,960
We're seeing breakouts of 
wildfires because it's 

1061
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:07,760
apparently global boiling 
everywhere. 

1062
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,560
What is causing these fires? 
Are there reasons for this that 

1063
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,920
are related to Agenda 2030 and 
Sustainable development goals? 

1064
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,120
Or is it just because it's so 
terribly hot, the fires are 

1065
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,520
breaking out everywhere? 
Are there arsons involved? 

1066
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,760
There have been a lot of 
questions around this, but I 

1067
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,560
think it's just important for us
to maybe think about this and 

1068
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,720
ask the question about why it is
that so much is happening around

1069
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,040
wildfires for the summer. 
Thank. 

1070
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:36,040
You very much for that and 
apologies about the footage 

1071
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,120
there from Scotland, but I'm 
sure many people have seen the 

1072
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:44,040
film clips on wider media. 
With regard to the wildfires, 

1073
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,080
I'll just add that of course one
of the things we were told by 

1074
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,960
firefighters in America when 
some of the really big woodland 

1075
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,760
fires were burning there, forest
fires were burning, was that in 

1076
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,920
many areas the firefighting 
teams had not been allowed to 

1077
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:03,560
create fire breaks or indeed 
deal with debris, very dry 

1078
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:07,880
debris on the forest floors. 
And this was helping to create 

1079
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:12,920
very, very intense fires with 
rolling fireballs going over the

1080
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,400
tree canopy and jump jumping 
considerable distances. 

1081
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:20,440
So firefighters in America, some
of them at least blaming the 

1082
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:24,440
authorities on on saying that 
they were preventing the 

1083
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,160
firefighters from actually doing
pre emptive work to stop the 

1084
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,240
fires. 
Let's just end on a positive 

1085
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,840
note, Diane. 
And you've got a, a very lush 

1086
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,680
green picture of UK here. 
I don't think it's very likely 

1087
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,920
fires are going to break off, 
break out in this environment. 

1088
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:48,360
What is your message for us? 
Well, I just wanted to say to 

1089
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:49,880
get out and enjoy it while we 
can. 

1090
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,760
Don't forget it is summer, it is
summer holidays still for 

1091
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,120
children and and we all should 
be just getting out and enjoying

1092
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,280
the beautiful weather. 
This was me a couple of days ago

1093
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,800
going to Court Bridge, which is 
a beautiful village up here in 

1094
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,600
the northeast of England in 
Northumbria. 

1095
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,360
And as we can see that what you 
can't see in the photo, but the,

1096
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,800
the village car park was 
completely packed. 

1097
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:14,320
And we can see people there 
walking to and from the, the car

1098
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:18,120
park across the bridge, across 
the river, enjoying the cafes 

1099
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:19,520
and the, the shops and 
everything. 

1100
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,160
And I spent a few hours there 
and just enjoying it. 

1101
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:26,600
So feel free to do the same 
because the the warm weather is 

1102
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:30,200
what we're supposed to be 
experiencing here in August, 

1103
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,360
even if it is the UK. 
Yeah, I think it's called the 

1104
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,760
summer, Diane. 
And yes, wonderful weekend, lots

1105
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:40,480
of people having a very good 
time outside in the sunshine. 

1106
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,320
And we say to our audience, do 
the same. 

1107
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:47,520
Get out there, fresh air, 
sunshine, relax and enjoy some 

1108
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:52,720
normal life with your friends 
and family and good normal 

1109
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,760
people. 
We must end it there. 

1110
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:58,040
Huge thank you to the UK column 
audience wherever you are. 

1111
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,200
Remember there are still some 
tickets available for the 

1112
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,360
conference in York, but if you 
haven't got a ticket going to 

1113
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:08,240
encourage you to buy, somebody's
going to be disappointed very 

1114
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,360
soon. 
At the rate these tickets are 

1115
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,920
going, we got more speakers to 
be announced. 

1116
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,840
We're really looking forward to 
you being there. 

1117
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:19,240
So head on to the UK Column 
website and have a look for 

1118
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,040
those tickets. 
We must end the news there. 

1119
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,200
Huge thank you to everybody. 
Thank you, Ben and Diane. 

1120
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,200
We'll be back for UK Column 
Extra in a few minutes and we'll

1121
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:33,040
look deeper into that story 
about South Yorkshire Police and

1122
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,320
the cover up of child abuse. 
Thanks very much for joining us.

1123
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:36,840
Bye bye.