Hello and welcome to another UK column interview.
My name's Debbie Evans and today I'm joined by our very good
friend Cheryl Granger. But I'm also joined by a very,
very astute engineer called John Bodwin.
Now, if you have not heard of the name John Bodwin, you will
now. And where have you been?
Because John is a very humble gentleman, but he is an
extraordinary engineer who's got extraordinary, irrefutable data
on excess deaths. Why, you ask yourself, how has
this man got all of this data? Well, he asked for it, and that
was very simply what happened. What do I mean by irrefutably
irrefutable data and extraordinary data?
Well, I mean, actually over a million death certificates.
And yes, John asked them and John got them.
And I'm delighted to be able to welcome you from across the
ponds in the USA. John, welcome to UK column and
thank you so much for agreeing to talk to us today.
Good morning and thank you for having me on UK column.
Really nice to meet you Debbie and Cheryl.
Hope we have a good conversation.
I'm sure we will. Oh, I can assure you we will.
And on that note, let's welcome Cheryl as well, who many of our
viewers and listeners will know. Cheryl is a self-employed
pharmaceutical training consultant and she's done much
work with me on the MHRA, vaccines, excess deaths and
mRNA. So Cheryl, thank you so much for
a facilitating this interview and joining us today.
Welcome. Thanks, Debbie, and hello, John.
Nice to be with you both this this afternoon actually here.
Yeah. Thank you.
The plan is, is that we're going to show you a very short piece
of video now just to give you a flavour of who John is and what
he's done, because I think you're going to find it
extraordinary. And then I'm going to hand over
to Cheryl because Cheryl's going to do a bit of data crunching
because that's what John is all about.
So without further ado, here's a very short video clip just to
give you a flavour of who we're talking to today.
COVID, as I've proven in my book and in the CDC memorandum, a
second publication, 80 to 90% of the COVID deaths are fraud.
They were drug overdoses and car accidents and they were a bunch
of old people dying. Out of neglect.
And being mistreated by hospitals weren't given
antibiotics when they had a bacterial infection in their
lungs. These things all combined
through a coercion of doctors from the American Board of
Internal Medicine, Family Medicine, Pediatrics, the state
licensing boards, the Federation of State Medical Boards, the
NIHFDACDC, all said the same thing.
You will use this protocol or we're going to suspend your
license. And you can find that on the
web. The letter is still there.
It's a joint statement by the CEOs of the American Board of
Internal Medicine and the other two I mentioned.
So with with regard to all of the hospital protocols, I call
it murder because at some level somebody knew what they were
doing. More than half a million people
killed by hospital protocols, another half a million killed by
what they call a vaccine. I have all the data.
I can show it. I now have 1.4 million
unredacted, non redacted death certificates.
That represents 5% of the US population.
It's the biggest study, biggest database ever in anything COVID.
Thanks, John. I think that summarized a lot of
what we're going to talk about today.
We just want a bit more information.
You say and you've got 1.4 million certificates.
How on earth did you get them? How on earth did you get to
write an FOI and get them to be released?
What was it about your particular request?
Do you think that actually allowed you to have all this
Massachusetts data? Oh boy, it's really simple, but
it's But it's not. So I spread eight public records
requests. Now, that's the Massachusetts
State version of the FOIA Freedom of Information.
And I spread them across different people so that the
state wouldn't think it was all coming from one person, then
just denied them all. So seven were rejected.
And the one that came through was the entire death record.
And I say record instead of certificate because of the
certificates are actually the pieces of paper, right?
The records have a lot more. Information I have 315 different
columns per decedent per person who died, 315 different
variables across. The row of a spreadsheet that's
a lot more than it is on a death certificate.
So I have, I have the medical examiner's name, license number,
office address. I have the burial plot of the
person, whether or not they were cremated, the causes of death.
So I asked for it and they they gave it to us and then they,
they further said. You don't even need.
To do a a public records request, you just need to ask
for it. So in Massachusetts we don't
have privacy and death laws like most of the United States states
do. Most of them are 50 to 70 years.
So that that's how I got Massachusetts.
Somebody did the same thing in Minnesota, unbeknownst to me for
over a year. And she was working on that.
And when we found each other after over AI think a year and
she offered me the the Minnesota database and I said, yeah, sure.
So I got that. And then I recently got a third.
Oh, and I work with a gentleman in New York City sometimes,
Aaron Hertzberg. He got Vermont, which is great.
It's a very small state, so it's hard to find signals, but you
can find individual cases and there are signals that we'll get
into that later. But, and then I got another
state, I guess I'd say a fourth state very recently.
And I'll have a third book coming out end of summer.
So basically I asked for them. That's how I got them.
Oh, the 4th one I, I almost don't want to say.
I applied to do a research paper, which I am doing.
I have engaged a gentleman at MIT who is just graduating now.
He's also an electrical engineer and he's going to use some
discrete foliage transform electrical engineering
techniques to derive the seasonality of deaths by cause
where pneumonia would have high seasonality.
More people die in the winter of pneumonia than in the summer in
a northern climate. And then it, it doesn't matter
with regard to going to pick something like cardiac arrest,
you know, there's no, well, that's probably a bad one
because that goes with pneumonia.
Let me just say a heart attack, there aren't any more heart
attacks in the winter than the summer.
So there's no seasonality. So the signal to noise ratio
would be different. Now I'm off on a tangent, so let
me get back to, yeah, I got the 4th state and I got it because
I'm going to do a research paper and I will because I said I
would. And there there will be 100
times more incidental findings than climate change versus heart
disease, which is what I applied to do are.
You from Massachusetts? Is that why you got this data?
I live in Massachusetts. Am I from Massachusetts?
No, I'm from Connecticut. And there's a very big
difference, though it's only two hours away and it's between New
York and Boston. So you hear people with a Boston
accent and people with a New York accent.
Connecticut does not really have an accent unless you get close
to New York. Have you had any pushback from
the people who gave you these death certificates and your
analysis? Has there been any reaction?
No, not at all. In fact, I I don't think they
can now because I sued the governor of the public health
commissioner, the chief medical examiner, and four individual
medical examiners in United States District Court District,
Massachusetts. So they were probably under
orders from the attorney General's office.
Quiet, not talk. Everything I've stated is
factual and it's sworn to underoath in federal court,
which means they can put me in jail if I'm lying and I'm not
lying because it's their data and that's all true.
Yeah, and I've been working with the Pfizer Moderna document
analysis with daily clout and or the information that they have,
which is primary source information.
So it's really been Pfizer analysis start off with Pfizer
haven't sued them because obviously they can't.
It's their data. It's their data that they put
forward for licensing. So it's the same sort of thing.
But I'm just jealous of the fact that in your system, you can
actually get answers to your Freedom of Information without
people hiding. So you have done a lot of
comparisons to theirs to find these people that you have death
certificates for. And I'm interested in that
because you talk about people as people.
You talk about these poor souls who have unfortunately died and
make the links about them. That must have been very
difficult for you to do. But I think you started off with
a Cassidy Baraka. Yes, it's it is difficult, I
hate to say, but human nature makes it easier over time.
And now it's hard again because I grew up in this state, the 4th
state that I now have. And as I dive into it, I see
people from my hometown. And so became difficult again.
But with with with Cassidy, I wouldn't write the name for a
while. And and nobody was paying
attention. And if you don't say a name,
don't believe you. So I looked up the obituary
public information. So everything I say is public
information. I'm not, you know, by law
restricted. So I did use her name because
it's so important to save the living children.
And I think she and her mother would want that.
And I've not contacted her mother for other reasons.
I was going to, but I was told not to.
There's, there's something that they, I think they, they
threatened her to be quiet and I won't talk about that now.
It has to do with a certain agency in Massachusetts.
But yeah, it's very difficult. And the important thing is, is
to use the names because everybody else out there who's
listening, this is not just data.
And I, and I know that we're going to talk about data today
and people call me the data guy, but most conclusive evidence is
an individual person who has, who had a reaction.
And what I did was I correlated to bears by looking at the age,
the gender, the state. OK, how many people died in the
state around that time? There were 4-7 year old girls
who died around that time. And in my book in chapter one I
go through all four and I show how the other three cannot
possibly be. The person in the bears record,
which the bears records are anonymous, there's no names, but
it has to be Cassidy. There's no question it's
Cassidy. And in my lawsuit, I'm asking
the state to tell me, did you write that she died from COVID?
From COVID, whereas I know she died from the vaccine.
Tell the truth. I'm asking the judge to compel
the state to tell the truth because all the.
Parents that read that. In the newspaper and listened to
it on television. It was on all the TV stations. 7
year old dies from COVID. They all got their kids and they
lined them right up for that shot and put them in harm's way.
And I have several many that I've correlated with the new
state. I just found 41 vaccine deaths
that it correlated to theirs. In Massachusetts I have about 50
and in Minnesota I have about 50 and then there's nine in in
Minnesota that actually state the vaccine killed.
And in Massachusetts, there are 10 that state the vaccine
killed, and in the new state, 4 state that the vaccine killed
them. But the CDC only coded the first
three in Minnesota, the first one in Massachusetts, and the
first one in the fourth state. And they stopped coding them
after that. And being that it's an
automatic. Software program that codes the
English words sent to them on the death records.
That means somebody either deleted the codes after they
were generated and the code specifically is Y 59.0.
And I can talk about how that's applicable to the UK in a moment
if you if you want to go there. But Y 59.0 means viral vaccine
and that was generated for Solomon Kizito who died on
January 16th in Massachusetts. In the year 2021, it's only two
weeks into the vaccine program, he died, and it says it right on
his death certificate. He died from acute bronchial
pneumonia in the setting of idiopathic thrombocytopenia.
Idiopathic meaning we don't know where it came from.
Well, there's all kinds of papers showing how
thrombocytopenia is frequent from these vaccines and we, we
again, it's another thing we can get into.
That's chapter 2. I show where that there's a
paper fatal post COVID mRNA vaccine associated cerebral
ischemia is the title and it says in every paragraph the
vaccine killed the 30 year old woman by stroke and so forth.
So the the CDC for the next 9 did not code the word vaccine or
vaccination where people died within 5 minutes of the vaccine
or one or two hours later or the next day from a pulmonary
embolism or a cardiac arrhythmia or a thrombocytopenia, all very
common from this vaccine. And I show death, death, death,
death. They knew.
Within weeks of this vaccine, they knew.
That it was killing people and they've been hiding it.
And that's why I say that, you know, data is good.
But individual cases are conclusive evidence where data
is persuasive and supplemental to the conclusive evidence.
It's always very interesting to put a name to these cases, John.
And you're saying that this is something that has been miscoded
in the UK as well, and that presumably this has been
happening all around the world? I can't say miscoded but it's
been avoided being coded. I, I would have to see the
individual records from the UK and the governments are hiding
all the records from the people. I was, you know, now there's a
few of us that have gotten these records, the woman in Minnesota
and Aaron Hertzberg in New York. But we're talking worldwide.
We have what, three people who've gotten these records.
Oh, Bobby Bounds got some Nevada and New Mexico too.
So that's four people. Yeah.
So in the UK. The.
The Y590 that I was mentioning has to do with EU 12.9.
U 12.9 is specific to the COVID vaccine.
And I testified in New Hampshire with a bunch of factual
information for maybe 15 minutes or so.
And the woman who came up after me from the Department of Health
and Human Services of New Hampshire, chief of the Bureau
of Statistics, I believe within New Hampshire, stated that in
preparing for the meeting, she had her staff look at U-12 dot
nine and there were no deaths from COVID listed.
What she didn't know in stating that is that the United States
and the CDC did not adopt U 12.9.
It is not mentioned in the CDC at all.
I combed through everything. However, I did find that it is
used by the UK and it is used by Germany in the context of death
by COVID vaccine. But there's a a specific note
under that in in the UK, and that note states it's a
subcategory of Y 59.0. So you should see Y 59.0 just
like the United States uses Y59 dot zero.
You probably won't see U 12.9. It needs to be looked at.
Find out how many hundreds are are coded that and if you find
them, that's only the tip of the iceberg because the others are
probably being hidden like they did in the United States.
I mean, we've had some changes made to UK death certification
when this all started. So because we had a doctor
Shipman who basically bumped a lot of people off to basically
have a monetary gain, older people were put to to to sleep
by him. And because of that they changed
the rules that you had to have two doctors sign the death
certificate until COVID came along.
And at the beginning of 2020 they reduced it down to one
doctor and the doctor didn't even have to see the body, they
could actually certify the body remotely.
So the whole thing was open to a lot of interpretation.
I know this. My mum in law who was 101 died.
Fortunately, on her death certificate it said she died of
old age, which obviously I couldn't argue with.
But at the end of the day, a lot of people, because they hadn't
been seen and a lot of people at the beginning, as you'll go on
to say we're in care homes, they were elderly people and they
actually were basically said to have died for COVID.
There were no oxy autopsies being done, which obviously when
a new medication comes out and there's deaths, autopsies have
always been done until this year, 2020.
And also the coroner coroner's office in the UK don't seem to
be centralised. We seem to have every coroner's
office acting independently in terms of getting information.
So that makes it again another difficulty.
But it's so it's, it's, it's similar but different in the UK.
You've talked about errors in the certification omissions,
extremely rare labels, malfeasance being acted on and
deliberate fraud happening. So you've talked about federal
felony because the omission of root cause of death has been
omitted. And you talk about different
types of fraud, You talk about fraud of Commission and fraud of
omission. Can you tell us a little bit
about that and whether there are any court cases that have come
out of that knowledge? With regard to the fraud, the
fraud of omission would be omitting a vaccine as a cause of
death where the certifier knows that the vaccine caused the
death. In such a case, Cassidy Baraka,
somebody wrote a bears report. So they knew they wrote that
report before she even died, two days after she was injected.
They wrote the report and then she expecting her to die and she
did die. With regard to Brianna McCarthy,
30 years old, they wrote that the doctors at the Beth Israel
Deaconess Medical Center, Harvard Medical College, wrote a
six page report and in that report they stated in the title
that she was killed by the vaccine by stroke.
And in every paragraph they say it.
In fact, they say a number of reports on these COVID vaccines
and several reports and they also write where CVST is not in
this particular case cause Brianna died from an ischemic
stroke. It says although this is not a
CVST, which means cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, it's a
type of hemorrhagic. Stroke, while CVST is not.
She did not die of this. There are several reports of CVS
TS occurring from these vaccines where thrombocytopenia is
frequent. OK, they're using words, several
reports, a number of reports, and frequent.
And yet two weeks before Brianna was injected on, she was
injected on March 30th, 2021, like 8-9 weeks into the vaccine
campaign. Two weeks before that, in
Massachusetts, not far away, Diane Dubois was 62 years old.
And on her death certificate it actually says, and it's not
coded OK. It actually says acute
intracranial hemorrhage in the setting of thrombocytopenia.
In a person vaccinated 11 days prior, it says vaccine on her
death record. It does not get coded with Y
59.0. It is fraudulent.
They know it, they're doing it on purpose.
So it's fraud of Commission in the fact that it, well, it's
fraud of omission. By omitting the the Y 59.0, the
fraud of Commission are all the acute fentanyl overdoses blunt
force trauma to the head, blunt force trauma to the torso?
They're testing dead bodies for COVID.
It was not causal in their death.
It is very clear what goes on at death record.
It has to be causal in their death to be under the causes of
death. And that's part one ABCD right
in reverse time order. The the the most recent thing
that happened like they stopped breathing would be or that their
heart stopped. That's cardio pulmonary arrest.
They they both stopped. That's the last thing that
happens before death. It's called the immediate 'cause
that's in cause A. So the writing down that they
died from COVID is the fraud of Commish.
And they've done it over and over and over.
I have hundreds of accidental deaths labeled COVID.
And then I've spoken to, I interviewed a medical examiner
for 3 1/2 hours, reviewed hundreds of death certificates
with him. And he told me nobody came to
the office during that first nine weeks of COVID.
And, and in Massachusetts, it's like almost 9000 people. 8800
access more than normal deaths mid March to mid June of 2020.
That drove the fear of the pandemic worldwide, along with
New York City and New Jersey. I can talk about that in a few
minutes. Massachusetts kind of did this
to the world. There's a reason for that.
You're talking about codes there.
And in the UK we have something called ICD codes.
We have diagnostic codes and we do have a code for unvaccinated,
but we don't have a code for vaccine injury.
And I think one piece of data that I found particularly
striking when you were talking about it, and I think you were
just going to perhaps hint on it now.
But before I go to that, I want to say to people that are
watching and listening that Cheryl will show you in a minute
John's book. But everything that John is
talking about today, he's written the most amazing book.
I don't suppose he ever expected to be writing a book like this
in his lifetime. But the real cdc.com and that's
C with a little D and a big C. We'll have that on the screen.
And maybe John can give us a, a bit of an answer of why, why
it's called that because there's a, there's a good reason behind
it. However, one of the things that
first triggered you into a bit of a red flag, John was the what
you were talking about there was respiratory deaths in 2020 were
coded J you were seeing them as AJ code.
And so those were, those were up in 2020.
But then following on from that, the J code kind of fell off the
radar and was replaced with other codes, with other
conditions, with people much younger because you were getting
death certificates. I think it's important that we
highlight this to viewers and listeners.
You were getting them unredacted.
So you were getting their names, their ages, their addresses,
their medical histories, I mean, the most phenomenal amounts of
information. So when when you started to see
that the J code for respiratory conditions, which makes sense
with a respiratory illness, was suddenly disappearing, what were
you noticing from there on? What kind of codes were you
seeing in replace of of the J code?
Yeah, so I, I mean, I'm an engineer, not a biologist or a
doctor, and I didn't even know there were codes.
What I did was I I noticed certain things were happening
more and then I saw these codes wait to the right and then
they're international. So your codes are the same as
our codes. We just, each, each nation
adopts a subset of the overall codes that are put out by the
WHL, but they're all the same. So J189 and 189 is pneumonia
unspecified. You know, J12 is viral pneumonia
and J15IS bacterial pneumonia. That's important.
I'll, I'll discuss that in a moment.
But what I did was I just typed all the codes in and, and I
created a quick search tool. I did a lot of spreadsheet
calculations and formula and I put them all in a column and I
had 2020 versus 2021. Which one is in greater excess
from 2015 through 2019? So 2015 through 19 is the
baseline and looking at 2020 and 2021, which one is greater?
And the J codes, which are all respiratory flu, ARDSCOPD,
pneumonia, they all lit up in 2020 that was in greater excess
than 21. And then when I got to the I
codes which are circulatory and the D codes, D for Delta, which
are blood and blood forming organs, the I codes and D codes
lit up in 21. So they were in greater numbers.
And so I started then looking for hotspots in standard
deviations above norm and pulmonary embolism.
Popped out big time. So I looked at pulmonary
embolism and pulmonary embolism went up.
It it went up with in the year of COVID.
Because a lot of old people didn't get out of bed.
They were left in bed, not clots, right?
So they ended up with pulmonary emboli just by the nature of
8800 excess deaths. When I divide by the number of
total deaths in the year, pulmonary embolism kind of
disappears. It didn't really happen in 2020
in a prevalence factor, right, more than normal.
But in 2021, it went up substantially, like a lot.
And in 22 also, but, but back when I first did it, I only had
two months to 22. So I was really looking at
2020-2021. So pulmonary embolism and I 26.9
pulmonary embolism without mention of acute core
pulmonality is the name of that. That went up substantially in
21, not in 20. And but COVID at the same time
went down, pneumonia went down. South year over year from 2020
to 2021, you have all costs go down.
The marginal difference was cut in half.
The pneumonia marginal difference was cut in half, the
number of COVID deaths were cut in half, while at the same time
pulmonary embolism, a clot in your lung.
That kills you from ventricular failure.
That went up substantially. That's the opposite direction.
And so I looked at all the other codes like and I'll just rattle
them off like acute post hemorrhagic anemia.
That's sudden blood loss, anemia, non traumatic because I
have the individual records. I could look through the 100
records or so and find that 89% of them had no trauma.
That means Nope, the steering wheel of the car didn't hit him
and rupture their aorta. They didn't have a surgeon make
a mistake. These were all of a sudden you
have a hole eaten through some major artery in your body and
you bleed out in your body and die.
That's that just doesn't happen like this, that all these things
started happening more after the vaccine.
So acute post hemorrhagic anemia, thrombocytopenia, acute,
excuse me, a cardiac arrhythmia, cardiac arrest.
Pulmonary embolism, The difficult ones were the
neurological. It took me another three or four
months to find those because there are about 50 different
codes associated with neurological.
And that means all the different kinds of strokes, brain
herniations, hemorrhagic strokes, ischemic strokes, What
part of the brain? By the time you look at all the
signals, every one of them is so small that it's easier to go
through the individual records. And that's why Chapter 2 is
about 3 strokes and three women, just to show the world.
That three women died in three months very early in vaccination
and they were all covered up and hidden by the government of
Massachusetts. Just before I ask you something
else, John, I want everybody to see your book, which is a really
easy read. You've read written it for the
common man to actually understand.
Do you want to say a little bit about why it gets that title and
why you've got your T-shirt on with the same emblem?
Sure. So my friend Mark Girido, whom
you may want to interview, he, he also came out with a book
recently, but he's in France. And I, I was in a group with
Steve Kirsch, Mark Girardeau, Kevin Mccurran, Jessica Rose,
Stephanie Senoff, Byron Bridal, Matthew Crawford and a few other
people. We talked 2 hours a week and I
wanted to write a sub stack and I wanted to be anonymous at the
time. And so I have a black dog and I,
I created a logo that Steve Kirsch didn't like and he made
me use just the dog's head. I had the profile of a dog
squatting. He didn't like that.
So I just used the head, but I wanted it to be called bad dog
or Naughty Dog. And I said, Mark, you know, how
do you say that in French? And he, he, we went back and
forth like five times, like, no, that's not what I mean.
No, I said, Mark, what would you yell at your dog if he pooped on
the floor in the house? And Mark said cocaine a Chien.
And I said, OK, that's what I'll use.
So I used cocaine Chien and that was my Substack name for a
while. And that means Bad Dog or
Naughty Dog in French. Well, serendipitous to that is
the fact that the initials are CDC, where the D is lowercase
for the D Cocaine de Chien, That's where it came from, Mark.
Talks about the bolus injection, how that's that's largely
responsible for most of the problems.
Just to say you can get it off Amazon, I had to go to Amazon
US, but they would deliver. So that's good.
That's how I got my book. So you, you mentioned about
seasonality. So you talk about seasonality
profiles and aid spectrum profiles and then symptom
profiles. So seasonality basically, we're
used to infections like flu starting off in Australia, in
this country and then eventually get into the UK.
In 2020 we had COVID everywhere. So what do you have to say about
seasonality and the behaviour in 2020?
So with seasonality in the especially in the northern
climates, you'll have more respiratory deaths associated
deaths in the winter than in the summer.
And when you look at an all cause deaths analysis or just a
wave form of. All the people.
Dying in a society in the North, you will see a sine wave.
I've, I've been told it's not a sine wave like, well, it sure
looks like one. It's pretty close.
There's more in the winter than in the summer.
And then if you look at pneumonia, you'll see more in
the winter than in the summer. And if you look at COVID, you'll
see it enter, say, Massachusetts around March.
So it didn't start in November like a normal full season would,
but then it goes down in May and it was pretty much done in June
and then it came back in November and you have a second
wave. And then in the 3rd wave, which
is non existent, Covid's been over for a couple of years, if
you even believe there was COVID.
So that's, that's just to establish what seasonality is
what. Happened when you when you start
stripping away like what's normal and you go looking at
individual causes and you find that pneumonia was up.
It was, it was up in the first wave of COVID and then it
diminished like it should as a disease would in the older
population. However, very interestingly,
after they started vaccinating people, death by pneumonia in
the younger people, and I mean like 25 to 75, you'll see as you
get younger and younger, the 3rd wave is greater than the 1st
wave. You tell me what disease comes
in that somebody survives 2 years of and then in the third
year starts dying of pneumonia? I mean, so if you look by cause,
you see that the seasonality, it's, it's kind of backwards,
right? But now let's talk about
something that is not seasonal, like cardiac arrhythmia or
things like that. When you strip away all the
normal, what's leftover is a signal that is a linearly
increasing line that resembles the uptake of vaccine.
So you don't have a seat and you say, oh, well, that's COVID.
Oh, COVID causes that? You know, I was hiking and with
doctor I ran into I coached his son in football, English
football, United States soccer. And he knows that I lost my son
and and his wife is a pediatrician.
He's a cardiologist. He said what are you doing
lately? Because he knows I'm depressed.
I was like, I'm just writing a book.
Well, what's it about? COVID And then, you know, that's
a serious disease, you know, like, yeah, OK.
And then it came to. I'm a cardiologist.
I know, I know. I'm like, OK, what about
eosinophilic myocarditis or lymphohistiocytic myocarditis?
He starts walking away and he turns around and says that
happens with COVID too, you know.
Yeah, no, it doesn't. Not not like this.
So the the prevalence of the seasonality of things like I
don't like to talk about myocarditis because it's only 1%
of the overall deaths. I think it's over talked about.
People are dying of many things if you look at pulmonary
embolism. It went along with the uptake of
vaccine. It did not come in seasonally
with COVID. It it was not shown to be more
prevalent in overall death in 2020.
It happened in 21 and it happened along with the curve of
the uptake of vaccine which is linearly increasing curve, not a
seasonal, respiratory or seasonal curve.
The same with thrombocytopenia and all the others so.
The seasonality of when people die throughout the year has an
association mostly with respiratory stuff if it gets
really super cold. Then people do die of heart
attacks and there's probably some reason, like, I don't know,
they're snow blowing the snow away and we're trying to shovel
too much and they die of a heart.
Attack but there is a signal, but it has to be extreme, has to
be extreme cold or extreme hot. They die of heart attacks.
So yeah, I've, I've proven in the data that.
Respiratory type illnesses die more in the winter than the
summer, but they're dying more in the third wave.
So when you start subtracting out, what should happen?
It's like, well, this shouldn't happen.
Why are people's immune? All the immune mechanism, the I8
and D8 codes, mostly the D8 codes, the immune mechanism,
It's out of whack. It has been from the very, very
beginning of the vaccine, not COVID.
It's very stark. It starts in 21, not 20.
The biggest wave of COVID was in purely in 2020 in Massachusetts.
And and so these differences in seasonality are very stark and
they show that it can't be COVID.
It must be something else. And so I'm saying that something
else. Is likely the vaccine.
I mean, I find it fascinating that you've got these, all of
these death certificates that anybody would even think to send
them to you, quite honestly. But the fact is, is that you
have got them. And I'm just thinking to myself,
well, how do we in the UK get data like this?
We're probably not going to get it.
But one thing that you didn't, I'm presuming wasn't on the
death certificates was vaccination status, because we
don't seem to have any data just with the with the correlation of
vaccinated and unvaccination. If we had that, I guess that
would be the Holy Grail. But am I right in thinking that
you didn't have the vaccination status on the death
certificates? That's correct.
I, I used the bears database to correlate.
I wanted to make sure that I have the right person and that's
where the there's a chapter in the book that says bears
correlation, right? I can't remember the name of the
title of the chapter, but yeah, it's where I correlate the two
and and the correlation is is sound.
I show you every person who died that is that age, that gender.
Died on that. Date, right, because sometimes
the bears records say of date they died and then I find other
conditions and writings within the the bears record.
In fact, there's 112 year old girl.
It's it appears that somebody wrote the Bears record using the
language from the death record, which is cerebellar, tonsillar
and bilateral uncle herniation. It's the only time I saw that in
a million records. And there it is.
It's in both the Veris record and the death record and she was
injected on March 3rd. This is where I get the
injection dates on Veris record, March 3rd, 2022.
She died on March 29th. She had four injections 4 and
that was HPV meningococcal Tdap. And her third COVID vaccine, 3
in her left arm, one in her right arm.
So yeah, I have detailed information from those records.
And in fact, I told you earlier, some of the death records
actually state that the vaccine killed the person.
And because they're not coded by the CDC, like I said, the first
one in Massachusetts was coded the next 9.
Were not the first three in Minnesota, the next six were not
the first one in the fourth state, and the next three were
not meaning. It says it on the death record
that the vaccine killed these people.
And if you extrapolate that you have hundreds across the US, but
you don't see it in the data. And that's all anybody can find
is the data like in the UK, right.
You need you need to see the the data being the codes, the I CD10
codes. That's all you really get to
see. You don't see the individual
writings. What did the medical examiner?
Or doctor write. On the death certificate and
that's why record level source data is so important.
And I and I could, I could really tell you how many of the
papers written around the world by all the PhDs are wrong
because they're making assumptions as to the underlying
meaning of the codes and the data, especially with regard to
cardiac arrest. I got something coming out on
that last 30 years of papers using I4 codes are probably
wrong. I think it's important that that
we also remind our viewers that the VARES data that you get in
the USA is very different from the MHRA data which we get here,
because we've always said that with VARES you get a lot more
detail. With the MHRA data, we get
absolutely nothing. But it's not just the injections
that you've noticed. And I know that I'm going to
hand over to Cheryl because she wants to ask you about serious
adverse reactions and also remdesivir.
And there's so many questions we both want to ask you.
I think we're going to have to ask you to come back if you'd
agree to, for a second time because I want to ask you also
about antibiotics, which I've noticed that you've noticed.
And I'm feeling that that is of great significance.
So I'll hand back across to Cheryl to pick up where she left
off. And then maybe if we've got
time, we can just briefly talk about the future.
So over to Cheryl. The cardiologist you spoke of a
little while ago, these are doctors that are seeing things
that they don't normally see and yet are not noticing them and,
and recording them. Or if anybody talks about these
things, it's always. Extremely rare, very rare.
I mean, I don't know how you classify rare, but it's not the
way that I classify rare. When we've seen this data, the
AstraZeneca vaccine was running at about one in 253 doses as
adverse serious adverse reaction and Pfizer in the UK was running
at one in 535 doses. So it's it's not rare and it
just depends what that definition is.
But when we go into acute renal failure, when we've got
remdesivir that of course Fauci you mentioned was involved with
and his wife, then we've got remdesivir being given out with
COVID shots with an immunomodulator and vancomycin,
which is obviously a serious antibiotic.
All of these things reduce immunity and they also have
effects on the kidneys and hepatic effects.
So when you're seeing acute renal failure, do you blame the
protocols that were being followed?
Absolutely. I've, I've knew something new
coming out, whether they died in hospital or not.
And it's, it's very difficult to see because most people who die
from acute renal failure, acute is sudden, right?
You didn't have a problem before.
Now all of a sudden you have a problem and you die from it.
But it still went up despite the fact that you'd expect all acute
renal failure deaths to end up in the hospital because
somebody's kidneys not working, they degrade.
It's like, oh, I'm feeling terrible.
I go to the hospital, oh, your kidneys are failing.
Oh, you die, right. So but it's it's still up And
and the fact that it's happening in the hospital more than not in
the in the marginal difference of data.
Let me, let me. Forget about the data and just
get to the point. the United States has hospital protocols
different from other places. I'm, I'm asking somebody in
Europe. I have a couple of people I've
asked. I won't say their name yet
because they haven't agreed to do it.
If they can show acute renal failure in the UK and in Europe,
different from the United States, then we can show that
the the hospital protocols were different the United States and
it was the hospital. Protocols that killed the
people. We're not talking about a few
people. This is 153,000 excess people in
the last 3 1/2 years from acute renal failure alone.
That should be the biggest single cause of death since over
100 years from something in the United States.
It and you know, I'll just say Ed Dowd and Finance Technologies
will be coming out with the same study.
We have a different or different group than me.
They're using a different database than I have and they
have different people and methodologies that I'm using.
And they came up with the same number.
It's the big, it's the biggest story nobody's talking about.
And what is it? You mentioned vancomycin.
So antibiotic, that's vancomycin.
They're giving it for sepsis. The person's probably going to
die anyway because their immune system's shattered and it's too.
Late at that point, but. It seems in the records and I
have 5 maybe six different patients records.
That's in the CDC memorandum, my second publication.
They were given, two were given baricitinib, two were given
remdesivir, all five were given vancomycin and the timing at
which the the liver enzymes and creatinine levels, the, the, the
tests for kidney function and liver function, it didn't seem
to start failing until after the vancomycin.
But I don't know is it the vancomycin in combination with
Remdesivir or you you mentioned an immunomodulator that would be
baricitinib. As one of them I believe you're
talking about. These were all incentivized for
the hospitals to use a 20% adder on $1,000,000 hospital stay is
an extra $200,000 to pump remdesivir through somebody's
veins on simply a positive COVID test, even if they're sitting
there with 95% oxygen levels and normal vital signs.
And they did do this. They did it to many patients.
The important thing about acute renal failure is also that it's
not just the old people dying. This goes down into the 25 to 44
range. I have new slides I've
generated. I just did 121 last night, 121
different sets of graphs, each being 6 graphs per set or three
graphs per set depending on which slide it is.
So that's that's like 400 different graphs I just
generated for acute renal failure all the way down to 25
years old. There's 100% increase, 100%,
which totals 150,000 people and the life years lost for these
young people with families, they have parents living, they have
children, they're being killed because they get a positive
COVID test going in the hospital and the hospital starts them on
a drug protocol put out by the NIH.
And the NIH knows darn well these people are dying and
they're still killing people and that's murder.
I hope I answered the question. Sometimes I.
Go on a little bit. We're grateful for your answer.
In the UK, it was midazolam and morphine that was particularly
used in the care homes and that obviously that's a death row
drug. And I don't know whether much
midazolam was used in the States, but not only was it a
lot was ordered, they used 2 1/2 times the annual amount in about
three to four months and basically at very high doses.
And, and why would you give midazolam and morphine, both
respiratory depressants for somebody who got a respiratory
infection? It doesn't make sense.
And those are the the products that we're very worried about.
But in terms of what might be coming our way, I know Debbie
has major worries about vancomycin and how they're even
talking about paediatric doses of it, which sounds quite
horrific to me. I've listened to many of your
interviews, John fascinated. And I've been looking at
antimicrobial resistance and I've been looking at the use of
antibiotics and I've been looking at what we've been using
in the UK. And we, we do use vancomycin,
but there's another one that I'm looking into that's part of the
same family. And the dangers of vancomycin
obviously are renal failure. And with the agenda moving
forward and with all that you've seen with the whole COVID
narrative and the COVID data and the people associated to that
data, I'm wondering if what we're looking forward to is
another pandemic, but this time of antimicrobial resistance
where we're going to be looking at more mRNA shots coming down
the line for AMR, probably mrnas, more combination novel
antimicrobials, which of course takes into consideration not
just antibiotics, but it takes into consideration antifungals
and anti parasitics as well. So the whole family of
antibiotics and I don't know, noticing what you had noticed in
that people were getting really sick and was that the
contraindication? I just wondered what your
thoughts were with regards to moving forward on antibiotics
because what we're seeing here seems to be a narrative that's
pointing towards Shigella, E coli, Cryptosporidium, water
based wastewater and clean water.
And we're looking at E coli being one of the most studied
organisms in history, but Shigella being particularly
dangerous and a new variant that may require a new antibiotic.
What are your thoughts moving forward on that?
Oh boy, the antibiotic question, that's that's a tough one.
There's just so much to it. And I'm not a doctor, I'm not a
scientist, I'm not a biologist. I was given a combination of
streptomycin and penicillin at four years old, and I went
completely deaf in my right ear. And that's how they learned.
You can't mix those two. It'll cause small children to go
deaf. Why did they?
Give me the. Shot because they did not have a
vaccine for the Hong Kong flu in 1968.
So they wanted to make money on injecting something, so they
injected that. That's that's where my my
antibiotic life starts. I, I think there's, I think
antibiotics have saved my life a number of times with strep
throat, bronchitis, 104° fever. There is a, there is a place for
them. And I and I believe strongly
that antibiotics are important for the immune system.
The immune system, if you're vaccinated is absolutely
crushed. Your bone marrow and lymph prove
that not only are is at the beginning of the cancers that I
showed while, you know, two years ago, in fact, lymph node
cancer is now up 400% of normal in Massachusetts.
But everything else that we're talking about thrombocytopenia,
you know, one would expect and, and I thought you're not making
enough platelets. I said platelet creation or
thrombocyte creation is dysregulated.
I, I might have been wrong in that it's not that you're not
making enough, it's that your macrophages, you certain white
cells that eat up your, your dying platelets are dysregulated
in that instead of eating the senescent or the, the dying
platelets. So every 10 to 12 days, you,
they die, right? Your platelets, they're always
being replenished. But if your macrophages are out
of control and start eating the healthy ones, that will cause
thrombocytopenia. So the blood and blood forming
and creation of these cells that basically kill pathogens in your
body. There's T cells, B cells,
lymphocytes, leukocytes, neutrophils, acinophils, all
these macrophages, all these weird names for white cells.
Let's just say white cells. The creation of white cells that
the stem cell level is being dysregulated.
You're creating cells that you don't need, and you're not
creating cells that you do need. So now you're open to certain
pathogens attacking you. Shingles was on the rise after
the vaccine, RSV was on the rise after the vaccine.
All kinds of stuff that were latent.
They were latent in individuals because those individuals had
natural defenses for decades in their own bodies against those
things. And when their immune system was
crushed by the vaccine, they're, oh, you have antibodies against
the spike protein now. It's like, oh, great, but I
don't need that because that's not even circulating in society
anymore. And you just crushed my immune
system, so I can't fight off other things.
So with any of these mRNA vaccines, the, the body is going
to be disrupted. It's not just about the spike
protein. It's mRNA technology.
It was never safe. They brought it forward.
Just they went past all the regulatory normal licensing of
so many years. So yeah, the the antibiotics
vancomycin is a last ditch effort to save somebody with
sepsis. They have they have multiple
organ failure from it. The adeno vector virus
injections. So like AstraZeneca, they are
also responsible for thrombocytopenia as well.
So it isn't just the mRNA, obviously the the DNA ones go to
mRNA, but the, we have a court case over here.
I don't know whether you're aware of that.
And that is under a Consumer Protection Act.
So we're basically saying it doesn't actually do what it says
on the tin. It's not safe and effective and
that's been shown. And basically they there are
about 480 cases in yellow card of thrombocytopenia and it kills
about one in five unfortunately. So there's a court case ongoing
at the time. Yeah, absolutely.
Thrombocytopenia is huge. There's the signal on that
across all all the states that I have is very high and there's
different kinds and the the the problem is.
The government that's supposed to be about healthcare and doing
all this research is doing nothing because the signals are
strong. I proved that for example, I'll,
I'll use acute renal failure again for an example, 150,000
excess people and all it would take is one man week for them to
look in some files to figure out what is the sequence of events
with vital signs, medication being given, blood labs and you
know, the different things that are being caused in people
sequelae. As people say, it is not hard
for them to find this. They're purposely not looking
and that means they're killing a lot of people through their
inaction where they have a legal duty to act concurrent with
their inaction. Now back to thrombocytopenia,
another signal they're not looking at it.
They could study this. Is it a lack of production of
traumacytes or is it that the macrophages are eating your good
thrombocytes so fast that you have low platelet count?
And how is clotting happening at the same time of not being able
to clot? You know, these are things that
they did exist. We had these names for very,
very, very rare things that are now happening frequently.
And the doctors, you know, most doctors have never seen these
things in their careers. Some have not seen something in
10,000 patients like a neurosurgeon doing a brain
operation back in 2020. Now this is how I know that or
how I believe that COVID causes. The same thing the vaccine
causes. It's just so rare.
There's no signal. So I do believe COVID is a real
disease and I do believe it's prothrombotic.
It causes clots, but very rarely.
Otherwise it's just a bad cold a surgeon was operating.
And he was removing a clot in somebody's brain.
While he was removing it, he saw two forming right in front of
him. He'd never seen that in
thousands of operation that that's specific to COVID.
And then there are other things. But yeah, so they're not
studying it. Thrombocytopenia is frequent.
There's vaccine induced thrombotic thrombocytopenia,
heparin induced thrombocytopenia.
Yeah. They're giving too much heparin
because people are clotting. So they're giving too much
heparin in the hospital. They get thrombocytopenia.
There's all kinds of reasons. Unfortunately you you don't have
the detailed records to figure out what is the the root cause
of this particular thrombocytopenia.
Is it? Does it present in?
Corpora. You know, the the red splotches
on your skin, that's extremely dangerous 'cause if it's a
presenting on the skin, what's happening in your body, in your
organs, in your brain, in your lungs.
Yeah. So that's another one.
I mean, I want to ask you about long COVID.
I want to ask you where flu went to there's and I know that
Cheryl's got a load more questions for you as well.
But before we ask you if you would be happy to come back and
talk to us again, I want to ask you for people that are watching
now. Because what we're seeing is a
lot of people are saying to us, we're looking back and we're
seeing that our loved one, our mother, our father, our brother,
our sister was killed, was killed by the state.
We're seeing that now. And it's very difficult for
people to take a lot of this data on board and this
information on board. And we're still finding quite a
bit of resistance with families that find it too painful, too
painful to hear and are still in denial.
When do you think we will come to the tipping point where
people will realize what has gone on in the past and what is
still going on and perhaps moving forward is going to come
again and hit us in a different way?
What can we say to people when they're saying, well, I know my
friend down the road, her family, they won't accept it,
but I know that that person should have come out of hospital
and didn't. How do we tackle situations like
that? Yeah, so maybe you you said I'm
kind of a data guy and we talked about data a lot.
I hate data. It's it's very little of what I
do. I'm a a whole systems analyst,
the whole system being the behavioral, psychological,
sociological, economic, finance, and then of course the biology
and stuff. I just don't even do it.
And I'm looking at data. How does it all play?
The CARES Act is behavioral modification.
The state medical boards are coercing boards.
We call it topping off. You get about 60% of the doctors
to comply with solicitation. You get another 30% with
coercion. You get another 5% by making
examples out of doctors like Merrill Mast, John Littell and
others and the 5% you suppress on social media.
Now, all this combines to make the average person out in
society a little bit shy also about confronting their own
mortality and what they've done to their family members, what
they've done to their friends by saying you should get the
vaccine. So there's a little bit of a
guilt and culpability in each person.
But I I don't I. Don't like to use broad sweeping
statements, which I just did. But when it comes to
individuals, every, everybody's got a different reason.
And yeah, it's difficult to approach a family member.
I have cousins. One was doing horribly.
She lost a lot of she's down to I think under 100 lbs.
She was dying and they they did save her in the hospital after a
year long battle. She got all her vaccines and
boosters and completely believes in it.
Do I tell her? Do I say, hey, cousin, you know,
I wrote this book, you should read it.
And this all has to do with the vaccine.
It's tough. It's tough to approach people
that you know and say you did this to yourself, but they
didn't do it to themselves. That's the problem.
They need to be told you're not. You're not at.
Fault for this. The government did this to you
and they did it on purpose. So I mean, I know what you're
asking. It's hard to answer because it's
individualistic. Each person is different.
I'm I can be brutally honest because that's been my
personality my whole life. I'm an engineer felt like it is.
I try to use some a little trepidation in approaching some
people, but I try to just say, hey, you know, I don't care if
you're going to hate me, doesn't matter.
You need to hear this because you know what?
You might prevent them from getting the booster that kills
them. If you might lose a friendship,
you might have a relative be angry at you for a year, not
talk to you. But you're obligated morally to
tell them. And if they hate you, So what?
But the next? Time they go in to get that
shot. They might be thinking about
what you said, so be brave and tell people.
John, where do we find you? There's going to be a lot of
people watching that because you have put out an extraordinary
amount of material. There's slide presentations,
graphs, all of your evidence, your book, your website.
Just let everybody know. Before I throw to Cheryl for her
last word, let me ask you where we find you.
So the the. Book can be found at
therealcdc.com in the United States.
Unfortunately, I don't have anything set up for Europe yet
to sell the book, which is it's my fault.
I have to figure that out. It is sold on Amazon.com and I
was surprised that you even have a book and.
You know, I don't know how you got it.
You said Amazon's like, oh, they'll ship there.
So yeah, the real cdc.com, the book is on Amazon, Barnes and
Noble. Oh, in Canada it's on, Oh, I
forgot the name of that place. It's on that big book sale place
in Canada. Oh, I can't believe it escapes
me. I also have a website called Via
Vera Vita. I'm trying to move people away
from it, but it still has a lot of data and it has a lot of
links. If you go to therealcdc.com at
the bottom you'll see links to my podcast interviews that
actually directs to Via Vera Vita, which means The Way, the
Truth and the Life, John, chapter 14, verse 6.
So that's a good one. VIAVERA vita.com I'm prolific on
Twitter at the at sign JOHNBEAUDOINSR John Beaudoin
Senior Facebook, I think John Paul Beaudoin.
I don't do much there, but I'm trying to do more and that's oh,
Rumble channel. I just renamed my rumble channel
the real CDC from via Vera Beta. So now it's called the real CDC.
I'm moving everything to the real CDC because it's easy.
It's easy for people to remember.
So rumble channel, I'm going to try to start building the rumble
channel. Oh, and on sub stack,
coquandasheon.substack.com, COQ, uin.substack.com.
I'll stop now. Don't stop, please don't stop
because without people like you, we wouldn't have this incredible
wealth of knowledge. And on that note, John, I'm
going to thank you so much for agreeing to join us.
And I do hope you're going to join us again because we've got
so much to say. And I'm going to give Cheryl an
opportunity to a have her last word, but also to tell you where
did she get that book? Cheryl, over to you.
Me and my book, yes I got it from Amazon US and had to pay
some postage but at least they post it here.
I can't remember exactly how much it cost, but I thought it
was well worth the, the value because we found out that more
than half a million people are killed by hospital protocols and
another half million have been killed by the COVID-19 vaccine.
From all the evidence that's in this book.
And the, the, the main strength that we have is in evidence is
in detail, is an understanding what's gone on so that if there
are people out there who have become I'll because of the
vaccines, they can actually do something hopefully to help
themselves. First of all, by not having
anything more, no more mRNA, whatever it is for.
And on top of that, there are things that people can do to try
and alleviate themselves from the damage that has been caused.
And I just leave those thoughts with you in terms of
understanding what John has been saying.
I thank John very much and I hope to see him again and have
another chat. And I too, want to thank you,
John, so much. And I'm sure that we'll talk
again very soon. And if you like what the UK
column are doing, please share this video because this is vital
information. And whoever it goes to, it might
just, it might just save a few lives.
This is really, really important.
So John, on that note, I'd like to leave you as normal as I
always do, with grateful thanks and also your last word and it's
over to you. Thank you, John.
Thank you very much for having me and for this opportunity.
I don't get to speak to a lot of people in the UK very often, but
I know you have American audience too.
So last words, it's over. It's been proven.
I know, I'm just one guy. I'm not a doctor, but the people
of the world for 10,000 years, however long we've been on the
planet, have had the ability to discern facts that are in front
of us. And now for some reason, we
abdicate that ability to discern to somebody in a white coat that
the white coat is not going to save you.
The information is right in front of you.
People are dying from this. It's clear.
I've proven it over and over with hard, conclusive evidence
that would stand up in any court.
The CDC memorandum, my second publication, is a notice of
criminal liability. It was served to the directors
of the CDCNIHFDA and their deputy directors.
They now are in a knowing state of mind and if they don't act to
investigate, then they are guilty of the subsequent deaths
and that is murder that happened to other people.
The conclusive evidence is what is presented.
Somebody dies within 5 minutes or couple hours over and over
from the same thing. That is what I've proven.
I don't need a research paper, a peer review.
I don't need somebody in a white coat to tell me so.
I want to thank everybody for listening.
Use your own brain. This is hard, factual evidence.
It's irrefutable. That's the difference between
what I do and a peer reviewed research paper that gets
bantered and argued and debated for the next 10 years.
That's not what I do. I give you hard evidence, you
can make decision on your own. So make that decision.
And I strongly recommend you stay away from what the
government tells you to do, whether it's remdesivir or a
vaccine. Use your own brain.
Thank you very much. Appreciate everybody's time.