1 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:40,400 None. Peter Duke of the Duke Report. 2 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,040 Thank you for joining me in the trenches. 3 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,240 You're welcome. Glad to be here. 4 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:48,880 Thank you. You were just telling me your 5 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,000 house burned down. Well, my entire town burned down 6 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:59,080 on January 7th. There was a fire which I contend 7 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:05,720 is an arson fire, and it was allowed to get out of control 8 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:10,440 and it burned down 2800 homes in the nicest neighbourhood 9 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:17,240 arguably in California and perhaps the world, and the real 10 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:23,960 estate was effectively cleared. The 99% of the original 11 00:01:23,960 --> 00:01:27,360 residents who lived there were homeless on January 8th. 12 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,600 Do you think it was organic? No, not at all. 13 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,560 I think because there was another fire that started on 14 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,280 January 1st in the exact same location. 15 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:46,520 And the fire department and the officials, the American ATF, 16 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,400 they all contend that it was a fire that was allowed to burn 17 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:56,800 underground for a week and then it was reconstituted by high 18 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,560 winds. But if you understand that what 19 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,120 their argument is, is that the fire was underground and then it 20 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,440 was affected by wind, then you have, you know, you have 21 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:12,280 contravailing ideas there. So no, I, I think that there, 22 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,360 there was a, and I, I write about this on my sub stack. 23 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:22,480 There was a almost 2022 year old battle between Occidental 24 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,640 Petroleum and the residents of the Pacific Palisades because 25 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,080 the Pacific Palisade sits on top of a huge oil reserve. 26 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:37,400 And I was told by a friend of mine who's in the oil 27 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,000 exploration business in Houston that the numbers that Occidental 28 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,680 Petroleum was talking about were off perhaps by a magnitude. 29 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,240 That is, there's there's 10 times more oil underneath the 30 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,640 Pacific Palisades than they're even letting onto. 31 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,880 So I think that that's probably a mitigating circumstance. 32 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,520 I think that the real estate is really important, and I think 33 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:00,880 that the oligarchs that people like Jerry Brown and Gavin 34 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:06,680 Newsom represent have an agenda, and they needed to declare that 35 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,600 land. And most of the residents of the 36 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,800 Palisades say that they don't actually even understand what 37 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,000 the stakes are. OK, so if it wasn't organic then 38 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,680 means that it was artificial. But I mean, how does that work? 39 00:03:21,640 --> 00:03:26,200 Well, it's pretty simple. There are winds that happen 40 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:33,640 every year in California and there's a, there's a, a weather 41 00:03:33,640 --> 00:03:36,480 pattern called Illinois Nino that has something to do with 42 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,880 the temperature of of the water I think in the Gulf of 43 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,480 California or the Gulf of Mexico. 44 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:47,120 And it's predictable that you're going to get 70 or 80 mile an 45 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,840 hour winds whenever that happens. 46 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,000 And I think that you simply wait. 47 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,680 I've done some research. There is a, the World Economic 48 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,320 Forum has a programme called Fire Aid, which has the exact 49 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:07,480 same name as the the concerts that took place after to raise 50 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,200 money. And that's a whole other story 51 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:14,960 also. But Fire Aid is an AI programme 52 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,120 that helps you predict wildfires. 53 00:04:17,519 --> 00:04:20,440 And I've been in technology long enough to understand that these 54 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,440 things are all tools. And that's something that can be 55 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,720 used to predict wildfires, could also be used to plan wildfires. 56 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,360 And so I don't think that it's a coincidence that the fires were 57 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,720 started in the exact same location of seven days apart, 58 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,920 because the fires were started in the exact same location 7 59 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,960 days apart. So that takes it back to the 60 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,920 World Economic Forum. And then you have to start 61 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,480 asking the question, well, who controls California? 62 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,960 And there's a a billionaire that is has branded himself for a 63 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,560 while. He's embarrassed by the brand 64 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,840 now called named Nicholas Berg Ruin. 65 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,560 And he's trying to build the equivalent of a philosopher 66 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,880 King's palace on the same in the same mountain range as the 67 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:16,480 Pacific Palisade sits. And he put together a, a blue a 68 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:22,320 blue ribbon committee over a decade ago to it's called the 69 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,840 blueprint to reinvent California. 70 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:28,960 And all of these people use this Hegelian dialectic of, you know, 71 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,080 order out of chaos problem reaction solution. 72 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,000 And so the solution for fixing the broken government in 73 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,560 California was floated about 12 or 13 years ago. 74 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:45,160 It's published, it's on website, and they're just looking for 75 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:50,680 ways to demonstrate that the government of California, the 76 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,800 current government of California, is no longer capable 77 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,960 of suiting the needs of the people. 78 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,000 And so there needs to be some new government. 79 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,520 And the Bergen Institute has got all of these different 80 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,760 initiatives testing out what all those different governments 81 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,000 would be. And he's spoken quite openly 82 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,360 about it at Oxford. It was at the Oxford Union, I 83 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,880 think, 11 or 12 years ago. There's a video on YouTube and 84 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,160 you can watch him talking about reinventing California. 85 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,200 OK, so then if the fires were deliberate? 86 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,400 No, no, no. I, I think they were waiting for 87 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,520 the wind and then they started to fire. 88 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,480 And I don't think, I don't, I don't think that the technology, 89 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,400 I mean, there's all kinds of counterintelligence stories that 90 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:40,360 are going out about directed energy weapons and all of this 91 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,000 other stuff. I don't think you need the only 92 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,680 directed energy weapon that you that you need is that you need, 93 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,600 you know, Ms 13 members on E bikes with torches. 94 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:56,000 And there were some people that were arrested and then released 95 00:06:56,280 --> 00:07:00,400 the next day in different scenarios. 96 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,120 There were some guys who are on bikes. 97 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,720 There was a guy who actually drove down from Oregon who had a 98 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:12,600 fake fire engine, who had an arrest record for arson and his 99 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:18,680 and married to a woman who is a a radical environmentalist. 100 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:23,160 So there there are people that got arrested and people who are 101 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,320 identified, but I don't think that the authorities are going 102 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:29,960 to do anything about it. The directed energy weapons 103 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,160 narrative has come up a few times with regards to some very 104 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,560 unusual fires. Well, there is one directed 105 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,040 energy weapon that I believe in wholeheartedly, and that's 106 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:43,240 because they have a website and I'm trying to remember the name 107 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,200 of it. It's on my but basically it's a 108 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:51,920 drone that drops sodium permanganate. 109 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,040 Is that it? Potassium promanganate Ping pong 110 00:07:55,040 --> 00:08:00,160 balls and it's to start backfires and it's a huge 111 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,680 industrial sized drone that has this basket of little balls and 112 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,720 it drops them. And it's got an app that you can 113 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,080 download and you can programme where you want all of the the 114 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:14,480 fireballs to be to be dropped. And so that technology exists. 115 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,960 Like I said, there's a website you can see videos of this fire 116 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:22,920 drone flying around, starting starting fires and and it's a 117 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,480 big drone. It's not the the there was at 118 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,880 one point a super scooper, which is a Canadian aircraft that's 119 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:37,080 designed to drop water, did hit a drone and was taken out of the 120 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,280 fight. And the the claim was that it 121 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,720 was a DJI little little drone. But the, the reason that that 122 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,200 doesn't really make any sense to me is because I, I had a drone, 123 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:56,040 it burned in the fire and the, the distance between where they 124 00:08:56,040 --> 00:09:00,920 say the drone took off and where it supposedly hit the plane with 125 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,560 the amount of wind that was going on at the time. 126 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,880 Doesn't make any sense to me. Because even though those drones 127 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:13,320 have about a 2022 minute flight time that's in still air when 128 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,440 you're in, you know, 50 or 60 mile an hour winds and you're 129 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:21,680 going miles away, The, the, the, the amount of time that's 130 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:24,000 available on the battery is significantly shorter. 131 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,600 So I, I, I don't believe, I believe that the plane hit a 132 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,880 drone. I don't believe the the plane 133 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,400 hit a DJI drone. OK, so then in that case you 134 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,520 don't buy Judy Woods 911 argument? 135 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,560 It's very interesting that you bring that up because I have, I 136 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:44,280 had Judy Woods book and I was just, it's brilliant. 137 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,600 Her book. Her book is insane. 138 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:51,440 It is, and the justification argument that she makes, The 139 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,760 most compelling part of it is the beams that turn into dust in 140 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:57,520 the video. Yeah, they they. 141 00:09:57,680 --> 00:10:01,360 They kind of do this also. Yeah, the the issue that I have 142 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:06,840 with that is that I as in my history as a technologist, I was 143 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:13,200 a the lead on a team that developed streaming media for 144 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:17,400 Microsoft. And so I have a highly technical 145 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:22,640 background in what's in video compression, streaming video 146 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,360 compression, what you and I are using right now in order to have 147 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,720 this conversation. And there is something in video 148 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,760 streaming video that's called artefacting. 149 00:10:33,680 --> 00:10:39,000 And artefacting is real. And it does create all kinds of 150 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:43,840 aberrant effects that if you look at videos closely enough, 151 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,480 you can see these aberrant effects. 152 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,680 And the problem that I have with Judy Woods analysis is that I 153 00:10:48,680 --> 00:10:51,400 want to see the original video. Most of the videos that she 154 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,480 shows are things that have been taken off of the Internet and 155 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,720 they've been compressed and they've been recompressed. 156 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,200 And I'm, I'm positive that, you know, the major television 157 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:05,520 networks probably have the really high resolution original 158 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,480 footage of a lot of that stuff. And so I'd like to see the 159 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,320 original footage so that I could see the justification on the 160 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:17,560 original footage and kind of rule out the fact that there is 161 00:11:17,560 --> 00:11:22,720 artifacting going on because that that's a that's an issue. 162 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:29,040 My my gut tells me that about Judy Wood, because I was 163 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:33,800 watching, I think it was David Hughes was kind of supporting. 164 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:34,920 Judy Wood. Yeah. 165 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,280 You know my show. Yeah, David Hughes was 166 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,880 supporting Judy Wood and and he was disparaging Richard Gauge a 167 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:46,400 little bit. And I don't like to rule out any 168 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,080 of those criteria. My specialty is what I call EPI 169 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,960 war, which is epistemological warfare. 170 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,960 And what I like to stick to is what the public story is. 171 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,840 So the public story is that the, the 20 hours were hit by 172 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,560 aeroplanes and then they magically disappeared. 173 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:11,080 The, the big story for me is who are the people who created this 174 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,480 event and why are they telling the story? 175 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,880 You know, how is it that we know all of these things? 176 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,440 And the how becomes important because you've got competing 177 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,160 stories, you've got Judy Wood, you've got Richard Gauge, and 178 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,960 then you've got a, you know, a half dozen other people out 179 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,040 there in the world who are talking about different things. 180 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:34,360 And it doesn't really serve the the the purpose of truth. 181 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:39,160 I don't think it's my jaded, 1 sided biassed opinion for David 182 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,200 David Hughes to be going after those people. 183 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,680 I think that what we should be looking at these things and kind 184 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:51,000 of applying A probabilistic metric to them as opposed to 185 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,720 this is true and this is not true because the fact is, is 186 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,600 that both things could be true. They they could have pre wired 187 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,480 the buildings to demolish and there could also have been a 188 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:07,600 directed energy weapon. I mean, so for for he is to go 189 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,160 and kind of like rule out one in favour of the other. 190 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:16,200 I I think is not the not the best way to get to the truth. 191 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,360 Yeah, I I think I agree with you to some degree. 192 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:26,200 One of the issues I have is when the the opposition, which is us, 193 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,440 we are opposing the official narrative, start infighting 194 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,040 because then we end up getting nowhere. 195 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:38,920 I, I totally agree, which is but, but, but there's a signal 196 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:44,080 the, I've written four or five posts in the last couple of days 197 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:48,400 because somebody who I thought was my friend Matthew Eret 198 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,960 decided to take a shot at me and another friend of mine, Courtney 199 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,440 Turner. And, but there's metadata there. 200 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,920 You know, when somebody goes after you, if you can, if you 201 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,920 can get away from the direct personal nature of the attack 202 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,800 and kind of put the thing in a framework of understanding where 203 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:14,560 this person fits in the power structure, then it becomes 204 00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:19,400 important information. It becomes, so the, the metadata 205 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:27,240 for me was that he was attacking me on, on, on a semiotic 206 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,960 analysis that I had made over a year ago where I, I did a 207 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,240 podcast with Hirobe over at Geopolitics and Empire and it 208 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,280 was over a year old. It was almost a year old. 209 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,120 Like it, it wasn't like a new thing. 210 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,840 And he went after me on these kind of in basketball, they 211 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,280 would call it a ticky tack foul, right? 212 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,720 He went after me on this kind of like ticky tack attack on my 213 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:57,160 analysis of semiotics and and then at the end he kind of 214 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,280 alluded to the fact that this had something to do with 215 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:12,080 negatively talking about bricks with Hirobe And you know, Matt 216 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,720 and Cynthia are very pro Russia and China. 217 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,080 I mean, it's, it's pretty obvious on their show that 218 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,080 that's where they come from, but they also provide a great 219 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,600 service and they provide a lot of great information And you 220 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,720 know, I I'm willing to take what I like and leave the rest. 221 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,800 But you know, when he came after me and then he came after 222 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:38,680 Courtney, it became obvious to me that that wasn't organic. 223 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,520 That is, I don't think that again, I don't, I'm not trying 224 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,520 to mind read. I'm just kind of looking at the 225 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:49,160 ontology, the, the org chart of things and I'm thinking, well, 226 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,720 I, I don't think that he woke up 1 morning and said, oh, I'm 227 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,280 going to go attack my friends Courtney and Peter like there's 228 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,680 something else happened. I don't know what it is, but 229 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,560 that tells me that gives me information, right? 230 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:07,080 That gives me information that that something that I'm doing is 231 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,480 bothering somebody, which it might be a good signal. 232 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,680 You know, it, it means that we're being effective. 233 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,160 One of the things that I've been doing in the last two or three 234 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:21,400 months is taking what I call essential reading and turning it 235 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:26,360 into AI. Half an hour podcasts and six 236 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:30,320 minute video explainers. So I've got almost 300 books. 237 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,920 These are the most essential books that you could ever read. 238 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,720 You know, all of Anthony Sutton's books, all of Carol 239 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:41,560 Quigley's books, and I've got them reduced down to podcasts 240 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,200 for people who are not ever going to read these books, 241 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,240 right? So if you want to understand 242 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,680 what the Anglo American Establishment by Carol Quigley 243 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,880 is about, you can go listen to 1/2 an hour podcast or you can 244 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:57,080 watch a 6 minute video on it. And because of the power of 245 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,160 Notebook LM, which is the Google AI engine, I've been able to 246 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:06,920 produce in the last three months about 300 audio, half an hour 247 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:12,880 podcasts and almost 106 minute video explainer videos. 248 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:18,680 I think that this information is dangerous to the the oligarchy, 249 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,839 and I think that they're probably starting to notice what 250 00:17:22,839 --> 00:17:24,800 I'm doing and what Courtney's doing. 251 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,040 Yeah. So I mean, the undercurrent of 252 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:34,040 what you're saying is that if we're using 9/11 now as the as 253 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:38,080 the argument, the official story is very obviously bunk. 254 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,920 So now what's happening is that you have all of these opposing 255 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:47,040 views bickering in the public space and it makes them look 256 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:52,760 like a circus. Yeah, there's a term in American 257 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,120 football called Flooding the zone. 258 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,720 And that's how I refer to it, is that it's epistemological 259 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,200 warfare and all that mean. It's a big long word, but what 260 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,120 it means is how do we know what we know? 261 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,680 And I've, I've, I've, I've, I've branded it EPI war with a little 262 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:16,880 trademark because my, the joke is, is that's the the method 263 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,640 that they use in order to be able to control us. 264 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,480 And so they fled the zone with as many possible different 265 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:29,440 variations of a story as possible in order to defuse the 266 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:34,800 truth in order to it's basically, if you want to hide A 267 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:39,080 needle in a haystack, the bigger the haystack, the harder it is 268 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,400 to be to find the needle. And that's why again, getting 269 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,480 back to the the Judy Wood Richard gauge thing, I don't, I 270 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,200 don't find it helpful to, to, to say 1 is better than the other. 271 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,960 When they attack each other, or at least when the followers are, 272 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,760 you know, in comments sections, just going off to one another, I 273 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,680 find that so disparaging and very disheartening. 274 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,720 Yeah, and I, I the, the, the article, the last two, two of 275 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,400 the last articles that I wrote again, I use. 276 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:13,440 So just a quick, I'm looking at the clock to see how much time 277 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,120 I've got. So I started investigating neuro 278 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:21,120 linguistic programming about five years ago, and neuro 279 00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:26,440 linguistic programming is based on an idea that is the basis for 280 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,600 epistemological warfare. And it's this Noam Chomsky said 281 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,080 that we all have something that he called the deep structure of 282 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,720 memory. And that the way that we take 283 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:41,080 this vast amount of knowledge that we all carry around in our 284 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,120 heads and squeeze it into a sentence or two coming out of 285 00:19:44,120 --> 00:19:47,920 our mouths is by deleting, distorting and generalising 286 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,480 things. And it turns out that if you 287 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:56,080 analyse language and look, and because we are always, and 288 00:19:56,080 --> 00:20:00,000 that's a universal quantifier, if we, because we are always 289 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,000 deleting, distorting and generalising, I am deleting, 290 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,840 distorting and generalising right now as I'm talking to you, 291 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,960 then there are always questions that you could ask someone. 292 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,680 And this is what a good a good interviewer like you understands 293 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,440 implicitly. Is that there's always questions 294 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,800 that you can ask someone based on whether or not you've 295 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,960 discerned that they've deleted, distorted or generalised 296 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:32,840 something. And so my approach to dealing 297 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,200 with the infighting has been, I'm not going to get into the 298 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,280 weeds of whatever your dumb argument is. 299 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,760 I'm going to look at the frame of the way that the Arctic the 300 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:48,040 argument has been put together and then I'm going to criticise 301 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,080 the frame in, in NLP that's called chunking up. 302 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,240 You go meta. And I find that that's a much 303 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:02,120 more useful way to deal with derision because you're being 304 00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:06,280 constructive about it. And I'm, I'm, I, I think that my 305 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,160 rebuttals to the thing, the attacks that I've had in the 306 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,400 last couple of days are they're very constructive. 307 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:17,040 Like if you go and you read my rebuttals to Matt Erett and to 308 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,680 the people that I, I think are just sock puppet trolls. 309 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,600 My wife made a funny joke last night. 310 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:28,800 She said, does he hire people on Fiverr to leave comments because 311 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,480 they're terrible? You know, they're just, they're 312 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:35,760 just not very good. And but again, when, when, when 313 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:42,800 people come at me, I, I, I, I, I just kind of look at the 314 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,720 structure of what they're doing and take it apart. 315 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,040 And I think that if I think if more people learned how to do 316 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,760 that, then we could nip this in the bud. 317 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,840 So if I'm following you correctly, you're suggesting 318 00:21:54,840 --> 00:22:01,280 that you zoom out? Yeah, like when, when, when, 319 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:06,120 when Matt attacked me and Courtney my, you know, after I 320 00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:09,240 got over the immediate feeling of oh, Gee whiz, I thought you 321 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,200 were my friend. And by the way, he starts off 322 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,080 the argument by saying I'm your friend and then and then attacks 323 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,000 me. He's got my phone number. 324 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,360 Like he could have called me and talked to me about it. 325 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:21,880 Like he didn't need to do subset. 326 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,560 He didn't need to do a sub stack post. 327 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:28,360 That's called MIL you control, by the way, So the he chose the 328 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,160 the he chose the battlefield, right, which was a Substack post 329 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,720 instead of picking up at the telephone and calling me or, you 330 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,960 know, sending me Adm. Those are all choices, right? 331 00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:45,360 And so we all make those. And now that I've I've I've spun 332 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:48,080 out and I forgot what your question is, there's plenty of 333 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,200 people that there's plenty of people that I disagree with that 334 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,960 I talked Courtney Turner and I disagree on many things. 335 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,600 OK, But I pick up the phone and we talk about it on the phone. 336 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,280 We don't, we don't, you know, we don't, we don't. 337 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:07,200 I disagree with Courtney and she's got a good friend on on 338 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,760 sub stack, Christine Jones. And I have I I disagree on the 339 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,720 definition of the word liberty. I think liberty is a psyop 340 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:21,080 because liberty in its essence means freedom that is granted to 341 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,640 you by someone, right and as opposed to freedom. 342 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,560 And, and so when the the argument with using the word 343 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,680 liberty is who are you getting the liberty from, right? 344 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,760 And so there's an implicit question in the word liberty. 345 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,760 And so for that reason, I believe that liberty is misused 346 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:46,760 in many, in many occurrences. And Courtney and, and Christine 347 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,800 Jones write about liberty all the time. 348 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,440 And I, I've talked to them both offline about how I disagree 349 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,000 with them. But every time they post 350 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,040 something about liberty, I don't jump into their comments and 351 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,160 say, you're wrong. You don't understand. 352 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,280 Like I like it. You're, you're exactly right. 353 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,040 I mean it doesn't serve any purpose. 354 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,680 And I mean, not just the 9/11 thing. 355 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,280 I found the same thing with the no virus thing. 356 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:15,400 Now, I'm very sympathetic to the argument against contagion, but 357 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,800 the way in which that sort of militant. 358 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,480 Approach. It's came out of no way during 359 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:28,120 the COVID era where, I mean, I would have RFK on my show and we 360 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:32,240 both would just get trashed on Twitter because he believes in 361 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,400 viruses and so therefore everything gets derailed because 362 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,920 he believes in viruses and now nothing else matters. 363 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,120 Yeah, no, I, I, I agree. And I think that again, looking 364 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:45,040 at it on an epistemological level, it's a purity test and 365 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:51,880 people who practise purity test rhetoric are it's, it's very 366 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,640 likely that they've got some kind of an agenda going. 367 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:02,360 So I think it's much more valuable to kind of look at life 368 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,160 or look at me look at messages in media as probabilistic. 369 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,720 You know, there's a for, for example, George Webb and I have 370 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,720 hypothesised that there is a virus and it has the impact of a 371 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,600 cold. And there's another technology 372 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,240 out there in the world called that almost I haven't heard 373 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,240 anybody talk about it on any other shows called a VLP virus 374 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:31,280 like particle and a VLP is a bioweapon. 375 00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:36,280 They sell it as a way to give people viruses, but it's 376 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:41,560 basically imagine that you had a, a nuclear weapon. 377 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,120 Now, I think nuclear weapons are fake too, and I can talk about 378 00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:45,920 that. But imagine that you have a bomb 379 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,720 and a warhead. OK. 380 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:54,880 A The, the, the, the virus has two principal functions. 381 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,120 Again, this is kind of like the epistemological view of a virus. 382 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:03,000 It, it makes you sick and it can replicate itself. 383 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,960 Those are kind of like the two things, right? 384 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,200 Well, AVLP can make you sick, but it can't replicate itself. 385 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:15,160 But the advantage of it is that it's dry, it's inert and it 386 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,360 doesn't have to have a cold chain, meaning that you can 387 00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:22,760 carry it around in a box in your pocket and you can do things 388 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,680 like you can dope air conditioning philtres with it. 389 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:31,320 So that what it has, it has the effect of spreading the, the, 390 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:37,720 the dis ease the, the, the, the part that makes you sick, but it 391 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,840 won't kill you. OK, So if you created a, a, a 392 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:47,200 new virus that had the effect efficacy of a, of a cold and 393 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,400 that it was the most viral thing that had ever been created. 394 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,760 And then what you went around and and so and you would do that 395 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,120 in order to get as many people to test positive as possible 396 00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:00,000 whenever you test them. OK. 397 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,160 And then you went around and tactically did things like you 398 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,320 went into a subway system in Wuhan and you doped all the air 399 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,880 conditioning philtres or you went into a an old age 400 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,280 retirement home in upstate New York and you doped all the air 401 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,720 conditioning philtres. You could use different 402 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,240 diseases, OK, You could use anthrax in one place. 403 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,560 You could use another disease in another place, Diseases that 404 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,480 have high mortality, right? But since all of the people are 405 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,720 only being tested for COVID, they're going to test positive 406 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,440 for COVID. And then all of these people are 407 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,800 going to die in Wuhan, and then all these people are going to 408 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,560 die in upstate New York. How many different places do you 409 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,720 need to do that doping of air conditioning philtres in order 410 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,600 to create a worldwide panic? I would argue you don't need 411 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:54,920 more than probably like a dozen. And in that case, in that case, 412 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,720 you've got a tactically controlled SIOP. 413 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,400 Real people are getting killed, OK, real people are getting 414 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,560 sick, but they're not dying of COVID. 415 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,640 They are testing positive for it. 416 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,920 They're but they're dying of something else. 417 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,920 So that's that's a thesis that I've been playing around with. 418 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,560 So you think that there wasn't a pandemic, but there was 419 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,520 something that was engineered? 100%, yeah, yeah. 420 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,440 There's nothing organic about COVID. 421 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,720 He dropped in something there about nukes. 422 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,480 Yeah, I, yeah. So I, I started playing around 423 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,440 with this idea about 3 or 4 years ago because somebody told 424 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,240 me that they thought nuclear weapons were fake. 425 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,240 And you know, when you get to the point where you think, oh, 426 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,000 well, the moon landings are fake. 427 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,440 And I, by the way, I had a career as a photographer. 428 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,240 I met Buzz Holdren. I shot his picture. 429 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,080 I have a picture of myself with Buzz Holdren. 430 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,360 And he was one of the weirdest guys that I ever shot pictures 431 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,000 of, by the way. But. 432 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,360 I mean, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. 433 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,520 Why? Just a weird vibe. 434 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,160 Like I, I had a patch, I was a kid, I was a moon kid. 435 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,840 I was like, I don't know, six wait. 436 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,000 When we landed on the moon, I was 9 and it, it worked. 437 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,560 It was at 2O clock in the morning and my parents didn't 438 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,840 want to be up and so I went and I stayed at my grandmother's 439 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,360 house because she would let me be up at 2O clock in the morning 440 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:24,160 to see man land on the man, you know, Neil Armstrong walk on the 441 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,800 moon. So anyway, I had this patch that 442 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,280 I had when I was a kid and I showed it was a Apollo 11 patch 443 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,000 and it was old and it was folded and, you know, I, I kept it in a 444 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,360 drawer since I was like a kid, you know, And I showed it to 445 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,920 Buzz Aldrin. And he goes, Oh yeah, a lot of 446 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:44,920 people have this. I was, I was like, OK, you know, 447 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,000 Anyway, so yeah. But he was a weird guy anyway. 448 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,240 But. But back to nukes. 449 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,280 I started playing around with the idea, so I started. 450 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,080 OK so game. So I'm a Rand kid. 451 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,840 My mother worked at Rand, my aunt worked at Rand as 452 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,120 librarians. My next door neighbour growing 453 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,720 up was a mathematician at Rand. When I was struggling with 454 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:10,080 algebra in high school, my math tutor was one of my mother's 455 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,280 friends who worked at Rand. When I was a kid, my mother used 456 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:18,720 to take me to Rand picnics every for the ex employee. 457 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,400 The employees of Rand would have a picnic every year. 458 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:26,560 So I, I understand the whole Rand culture and I and I and I 459 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:31,440 grew up playing war games by a company called Avalon Hill. 460 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,680 That was because my next door neighbour, his son was special 461 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,200 needs and he had all these games that he wanted to play. 462 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,520 So my brother and I used to go next door and play these war 463 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,520 games that were ostensibly designed by Rand. 464 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,640 And so I was kind of immersed in game theory when I was 10 or 11 465 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,680 years old, like I was understanding it and I started 466 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:57,600 thinking, I, I, I know that the TV show Survivor and, and The 467 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,360 Apprentice are all based on John Nash's non cooperative game 468 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,200 theory. And I, so I started writing, I 469 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,840 wrote a few pieces on a thesis that I have that this was a, a 470 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:14,920 method to test alternate forms of government on the television 471 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:20,040 public in order to determine whether or not or in order to 472 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,360 pre swayed them into the idea of some kind of a technocratic 473 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,760 government. And in the case of Survivor, 474 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,720 you've got kind of the ultimate democracy where all of the 475 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,960 losers get to pick the winner at the end. 476 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,840 And in the in the case of The Apprentice, you have kind of a 477 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,440 totalitarian, A totalitarian government, right where you've 478 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:47,880 got Donald Trump at the top. So I start, I was, and I and 479 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,200 there's a lot of game theory in that. 480 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,960 There's a lot of John Nash, there's a lot of math and, and 481 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,640 Mark Burnett seems to be an operator to me. 482 00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:00,080 He's like a London based MI 6 spook. 483 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:06,960 And and so I started applying the same idea to to nuclear 484 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,640 weapons. And what I came up with was the 485 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:14,240 idea that you may be able to create a nuclear explosion in 486 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:19,960 something that is in a house sized container in the middle of 487 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,360 the desert in New Mexico. But whether or not you can 488 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,360 actually fit that into the Bombay of a of an aeroplane or 489 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,360 put it on the tip of a missile is a completely different idea. 490 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:37,240 And so it occurred to me that the that the idea of a nuclear 491 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,360 weapon is more important than the nuclear weapon itself, 492 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:48,320 because if you're trying to do behaviour modification on human 493 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,280 beings, the fear is what is important. 494 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,480 And so I have these kind of rubrics that I use for 495 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,600 epistemological warfare. And one of them is that the more 496 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:04,840 media and attention a fear based idea gets, the more likely it is 497 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,680 to be false. So when you, when you look at 498 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:13,240 the transmedia attack of nuclear weapons, it's in movies, it's in 499 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:17,280 television, it's in radio, it's in fiction, it's in nonfiction, 500 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,400 it's it's in school, it's everywhere, It's ubiquitous, 501 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,720 right? That when you have this fear 502 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,960 based messaging that is ubiquitous, there's a good 503 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,760 chance that it, it, it's not real or that whatever the story 504 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,840 is that they're telling you is not the whole story. 505 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:41,120 And so I, I got into GPT and I started playing around with it 506 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,520 and it came up with some pretty compelling math that showed that 507 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,160 it would make, because you could create a dark economy and you 508 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,200 could create something called an equilibrium. 509 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,040 And in an equilibrium, everybody who's involved in the game has 510 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,400 skin in it. So it's in the best, it's in the 511 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:04,760 best interest of Boeing and Lockheed and Raytheon and the 512 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:09,920 Pentagon and everybody else to go along and the Russians, your 513 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,199 enemies. It's it's it's in everybody's 514 00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:15,360 best interest to keep the game going because it allows you to 515 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:21,120 create dark budgets. And because of need to know and 516 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,600 compartmentalization, you can take billions or trillions of 517 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,159 dollars and then re divert that money to your own needs. 518 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,120 And all the, all the, and because of compartmentalization, 519 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,840 you can have entire industries that are working on nuclear 520 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,159 weapons that aren't actually building nuclear weapons. 521 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,920 They're building something else. They think that they're building 522 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,440 nuclear weapons, but because of the need to know and 523 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,520 compartmentalization might be what might be something else 524 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,960 that they're building. So I, I, yeah, I don't believe 525 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,560 in nuclear weapons. I think they're fake. 526 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,000 Well, it's interesting you say that because Bill Gates, in an 527 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,880 interview not terribly long ago, said that humanity faces four 528 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,960 invisible enemies. And immediately that got my 529 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,160 alarm bells ringing. And he said pandemics, nuclear 530 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:13,000 war, AI and what was what was the 4th one I have now 531 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,600 forgotten. That's OK. 532 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,480 I'll, I'll, I'll say way back and then you'll remember. 533 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,080 So this was all started by HG Wells and HG Wells wrote a book 534 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,960 called The Invisible Man. And again, I read all of these 535 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,400 things with my kind of epistemological view. 536 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,880 The, the Invisible Man on the meta level is a story about a 537 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,920 town that's terrorised by something that they cannot see, 538 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:42,360 you know, and HG Wells was the progenitor for a lot of this 539 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,840 stuff. He was the, the, you know, the 540 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:53,280 Walt Disney of, of that Milner, the, the Rhodes Milner group who 541 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,240 was taking the ideas that they were discussing in their round 542 00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,640 tables and then turning it into popular fiction. 543 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:04,320 So the the enemy that you can't see, I mean, think about the 544 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,320 movies that are the most popular movies. 545 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,120 You got Jaws and you didn't see the shark for 3/4 of the movie. 546 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,720 You got Alien. I'm just trying to think of the 547 00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:16,160 scariest movies, right? But in these movies, like they 548 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:22,320 create all of this fear out of out, out of the unknown. 549 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,240 And, and is, isn't that what happened with COVID? 550 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,360 Isn't that exactly what happened with Covic? 551 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,040 People were running around. I, I was at, I was in Northern 552 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,840 California and I was in a supermarket and there was an 553 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,000 assistant manager who is screaming at the top of his 554 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,560 lungs at people who would not stay 6 feet apart from each 555 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,440 other. He was screaming, don't you 556 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,840 understand? This is terrible. 557 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,040 We're going to die if we don't do this. 558 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,240 He was like, he was so upset. He was so earnestly upset. 559 00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:56,200 He thought we were all going to die if we, if we got closer to 560 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,800 each other than six feet. I mean, this is the power of 561 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,680 this stuff. Climate change is the 4th 1. 562 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,800 Yeah, climate change is fake. It's it's completely fake. 563 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,040 It's well. I mean, the climate changes. 564 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,080 Yeah, the no, no, you're right. The climate changes all the 565 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,680 time. OK, I I used to make the joke 566 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,920 George Bush didn't kill the dinosaurs. 567 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:25,080 You know, it's stuff. He also said Is our children 568 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,240 learning. Yes, and again, I was completely 569 00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:31,960 hypnotised during the entire time that George Bush was 570 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,000 president. I I didn't wake up. 571 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:40,080 I woke up on January 6th, 2021. I was the official photographer, 572 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,760 First Stop the Steal. So as I was on the steps of the 573 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,520 Capitol on January 6th, I had Avip pass. 574 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,840 I was in the pit with, you know, Patrick Byrne and Nick Valentis 575 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,160 and Benny Johnson and all these other people. 576 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:59,960 And, and I realised by the end of the day, I realised this is 577 00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:03,200 all fake. You know, it's, and the thing 578 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,520 that really got me going though, was on January 5th, there's a 579 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,560 building on the, in the, what they call the Federal Triangle 580 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,680 and called the Mellon Auditorium building. 581 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,760 And I believe this is kind of like the real secret 582 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,400 headquarters of the secret societies in, in Washington, DC, 583 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:25,440 because on the pediment of the building is the, the, the patron 584 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,840 goddess of America, Columbia. But it's, it's fully a 585 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,640 hermaphrodite. It's a it's, it's a dude with 586 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,200 boobs on the pediment of this building. 587 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,000 And the the friend of mine who pointed it out, I said, how do 588 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,960 you know that's hermaphrodite? And he pointed to a pediment on 589 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,000 this building over here. And he said, that's Hermes and 590 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,880 I, and I said, yeah. And he goes, and that's 591 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,280 Aphrodite. And I said yeah. 592 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,080 And he said, what do you get when you put Hermes and 593 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,960 Aphrodite together? And I said, what? 594 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,600 And he goes, you get hermaphrodite. 595 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,480 So Columbia. So on this building, Columbia, 596 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,880 who's the patron goddess of the United States, is portrayed as a 597 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,880 hermaphrodite. And there's an even creepier 598 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:12,000 version of the same figure in front of the the US archives. 599 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,120 But this is the building where NATO was founded. 600 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,200 This is where they have the 25th, the 50th, and the 75th 601 00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:22,480 anniversary of NATO is in this building. 602 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,560 And if you look at the pictures online of the inside of this 603 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,400 building, it looks like a Masonic temple. 604 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,840 So it's, it's so that was kind of my wake up call. 605 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,400 I see this weird temple in the middle of Washington, DC. 606 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,160 And then the next day everything is fake and gay. 607 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,880 And I I met my wife on the steps of the Capitol and we both 608 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,600 unregistered to vote and started trying to figure out how the 609 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,680 world really works. Well, I mean, just while you're 610 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:54,720 on on that topic, something that has always confused me is on the 611 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,200 US on the back of the US $1.00 bill, you've got that pyramid 612 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,720 with the all seeing eye and that Latin wording around it. 613 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:10,000 Yeah, Anurt Koptus and Anurt Koptus. 614 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,040 Yeah, out of out of many one of them, it says one of them means 615 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,240 a new order of the world, and the other one means out of many 616 00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:19,680 1E Pluribus Unum is out of many one. 617 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,040 And I I believe that out of many, one means out of many 618 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,400 oligarchs, out of many oligarchies, 1 oligarchy. 619 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,760 That's what I think it means. It has nothing to do with 620 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,920 democracy. It has to do with who governs. 621 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,000 And I have a whole theory about circles and stars too. 622 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,040 For a while, again, I was a true believer for a while. 623 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,680 I have a whole kind of ontology for the way that I think that 624 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,000 the world works. On the bottom level is what 625 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,280 Plato referred to as prisoners of The Cave. 626 00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:53,640 On top of that are the politically active people that I 627 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,480 refer to as true believers. And I get that from Eric 628 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,880 Hoffer's book of the same name, The True Believers. 629 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,920 And then for four years I had a business partner who it turned 630 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,640 out was intelligence. And the next layers are assets 631 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,880 handlers and then the power elite are at the top. 632 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,160 So I think that the bottom of the pyramid, on the bottom of 633 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,880 the pyramid you have prisoners of The Cave. 634 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,760 On top of that you have true believers. 635 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,560 On top of that you have assets. Assets are people who are 636 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,200 working for the power elite, the oligarchs, but they don't know 637 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,680 they are OK. And then on top of that are the 638 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,960 handlers. And the handlers know that 639 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,280 they're working for the power elite. 640 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:35,680 The methods that they use for controlling all of us in this 641 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:42,960 rubric are money, ideology, compromise, ego, and bloodline 642 00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:47,280 family. And so when somebody goes left 643 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,200 instead of right, when John Roberts, who everybody thinks is 644 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,680 going to kick Obamacare out of the Supreme Court, not only does 645 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,760 not kick Obamacare out of the Supreme Court, but rewrites it, 646 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,280 which is the first time that any Supreme Court Justice has ever 647 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,280 done that in history, everybody's going, why did he do 648 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,520 that? Why did he do that? 649 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,080 He did it because of either money, ideology, compromise, 650 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,080 ego, or family. One of those five. 651 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,840 OK, whenever somebody goes in a direction that you don't think 652 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,080 that they're going to that they that, that you've, that you've 653 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,880 been presupposed. I'm trying to think of the best 654 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,160 way to say this. When someone goes in a direction 655 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:33,280 that is unexpected, it's always and that's the universal 656 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,280 quantifier because of either money, ideology, compromise, 657 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,200 ego, or family. That's it. 658 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,280 These things make the world simpler to understand when you 659 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:49,440 understand these rubrics. And this is what you mean in you 660 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,680 by the title of your book Stealth Power. 661 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,880 Stealth, Power and the Illusion of Democracy is a thought 662 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:03,600 experiment that I did. Every single critique of The 663 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:09,400 Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion rests on the idea that 664 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:14,840 it's plagiarised. But plagiarism does not, is not 665 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,400 a measure of veracity, it's a measure of authorship. 666 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:24,320 And So what I did is because I in my past have worked for 667 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,800 Steven Spielberg and I've worked for the show Foundation 668 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,520 Institute. And at one point the New York 669 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:34,360 Times tried to paint me as an anti Semitic neo Nazi. 670 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:38,480 It's a it's a hard sell with me because I have, I have a lot of 671 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,200 background in working with a lot of the people on the, on the 672 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,400 Zionist left. And, and so I thought that I was 673 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,640 uniquely positioned to do something interesting, which is 674 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:56,760 that I took all of the religious and I took all the religious 675 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,760 connotations out. I used AII took all the 676 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,720 religious connotations out of the protocols, the learned 677 00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:07,720 elders of Zion so that you can't say, oh, this is anti Semitic or 678 00:44:07,720 --> 00:44:10,360 oh, this is about the Jews. It's just basically instruction 679 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,040 booklet on how to take over the world. 680 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:19,400 And when you compare the methods and practises that are described 681 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:24,680 in that book with what's really going on, it's almost a complete 682 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,480 and total match. And so then the question 683 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:31,200 becomes, if it's not the Jews, then who is it right. 684 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:36,080 Because it turns out that the the methods and practises that 685 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,600 are described in that book are exactly what's happening right 686 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:43,040 now. And so and so the, the fact that 687 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,920 an anti Semitism is an epistemological weapon, it, it, 688 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:51,600 it, it's a way of painting anybody who gets too close to 689 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,040 who's really in in control. And it's not the Jews. 690 00:44:55,160 --> 00:45:03,120 OK it it may be people who some Jews are associated with then 691 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,040 they can paint you with this brush of being a a hate monger 692 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,160 or anti Semitic or something. I do find that whole it's the 693 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,960 Jews narrative to be a bit of a distraction. 694 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,720 I mean, there are loads of Jews in very high positions, there's 695 00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:21,720 no doubt about that. And and they have. 696 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,520 Higher them. Yeah, yeah, they have immense 697 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,640 control. Larry Fake has a boss, OK? 698 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:37,000 But then who is higher? The, the well, this is where 699 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,480 Katherine Austin Fitz gets it right. 700 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,120 But she kind of waffled a little bit when she was talking to 701 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,760 Tucker Carlson. And it's, it is generational 702 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,520 wealth, but it goes back I I I think it goes back to the 703 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,040 Phoenicians. There's a great book I talked to 704 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:51,720 the. Vatican. 705 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,800 The Vatican. Are you? 706 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:54,600 Are you? Are you? 707 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,240 Are you pointing in that direction? 708 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,560 No, I think the Vatican is part of it. 709 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,120 I, I look, here's the, the, the history of all of these things 710 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,120 is that they all get permeated. So permeation was a word that 711 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,840 was coined by Beatrice Webb. I think because she was a 712 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,520 feminist, they were using the word penetrated and she didn't 713 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,560 like that. So she changed it to permeated. 714 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:20,280 But no, I I think all of these organisations start out as their 715 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,760 own little power centres, whether or not you're talking 716 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,160 about foundations like the Carnegie Foundation of the 717 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,360 Rockefeller Foundation or the Ford Foundation. 718 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,720 They may start off with some kind of noble goal, but 719 00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:34,400 eventually they get Co opted and taken over and controlled. 720 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,120 And I think the same thing happens with the federal 721 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,040 government in the United States. I think that the United States 722 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:47,720 stopped being a sovereign nation on December 23rd, 1913, yeah, 723 00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:52,000 when the Fed was created and, and it's been permeated ever 724 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,400 since. I think that Michael Hoffman, 725 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,920 yeah, Michael Hoffman wrote a book called The Occult 726 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,800 Renaissance Church of Rome, and my wife is reading it right now. 727 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:08,160 And his, I think that his consensus is that the Vatican 728 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:15,000 was taken over around 1300. So again, these, they get 729 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:19,400 incorporated into this octopus that's in control. 730 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:24,960 So and it's the Jews is like saying it's the Vatican or it's 731 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,320 the Freemasons or it's the Jesuits. 732 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,280 The the answer to the test is it's all of the above. 733 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,120 It's all of them because they've all been kind of permeate. 734 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,200 But Francis Leader, who's been on my show, has some, has 735 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,200 written some incredible articles on the power of the Black 736 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:46,360 Nobility. Yeah, she's, she, she's a 737 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:51,320 interesting character, but she kind of, she's a, she's got a 738 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:57,200 purity test, you know, and, and she's, again, she's one of these 739 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,720 people who doesn't have any problem attacking other people 740 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:05,320 online. You know, I think that she's 741 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:11,240 openly called me stupid. So, and it's interesting because 742 00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:13,760 there are other researchers out there that have done. 743 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,280 I'm in, I'm in contact right now with a researcher who approached 744 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,080 me directly. And she does not want to go 745 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,000 public with any of the things that that she knows, but she 746 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,840 shares all of her sources and like Francis leader, like she'll 747 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:32,120 write an entire treatise based on a single document that she 748 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,160 got. And I'm OK with that. 749 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,520 If you want to float it as a thought experiment, I float. 750 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,880 Lots of thought experiments. I float bought lots of thesis. 751 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,600 When you start telling people that this is the objective truth 752 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,960 and this is exactly what's going on, and you're basing it off of 753 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,400 1 PDF document that you got off of the web archive, then you 754 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,240 know, I start to question, you know, the veracity. 755 00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:58,160 Well, a very good friend of mine, Nick Hudson, who often 756 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:04,640 comes into my show, he makes the argument that we're dealing with 757 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:09,320 complex systems, and when we attach binary or these false 758 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,160 dichotomies, it's either one or zero. 759 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,840 We end up getting ourselves caught up in traps. 760 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,160 Well, and that's, and that's part of what they do. 761 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,240 That's the entire dichotomy game. 762 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:25,720 And that's part of the reason that I have, you know, migrated 763 00:49:25,720 --> 00:49:28,120 over to a linguistic approach to looking at things. 764 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,000 There's something in linguistics called a universal quantifier. 765 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,480 A universal quantifier is a word that's like any all, always, 766 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:41,440 never love, hate these things that take the needle and push it 767 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,200 all the way over to one side or the other. 768 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,880 They are almost always a manipulation and I'm using a 769 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,800 universal quantifier as a joke there. 770 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:55,520 But when somebody tweets out, there are two ways to look at 771 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,080 this, this way or that way. That's mind control. 772 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:04,200 OK, That's purely a mind control operation because there aren't 773 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,960 very many situations where that either or thing is true. 774 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,280 And and so it, it becomes really important to become disciplined 775 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:19,800 to kind of a not do it and be be aware of the fact that other 776 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,480 people are doing it when it when it impacts you. 777 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,720 But Peter, you believe in viruses, so therefore you 778 00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:27,680 control the position. Right, exactly. 779 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,520 And and again, this is like my problem with I, I, I for the 780 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:37,080 most part, I like Sasha Ladapova, but she's she's a a no 781 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:41,600 vaccine absolutist. I'm sorry, she's a no virus 782 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:49,680 absolutist and my father was a doctor, you know. 783 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,680 But hold on, hold on. I know the argument, Douglas. 784 00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:55,840 I've, I've chatted this session a number of times and I and and, 785 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,200 and, and people in that category. 786 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,800 And I don't like to put myself into that category because, 787 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:06,160 because I don't feel I have the, the confidence to make an 788 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,280 absolute claim. But I do think that there is a 789 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,640 foundational logic that makes sense. 790 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,360 The question is, how do you know? 791 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,360 Yeah, yeah, I, I just answered 100%, which is an absolute OK, 792 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:23,760 yes, I agree that I, I look, I think that terrain has some 793 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:28,120 merit, OK, I also think even. Even German new medicine. 794 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,880 I I don't know German new medicine. 795 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,960 Well, everything basically is triggered from the brain, from 796 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:39,000 the mind. In other words, stress. 797 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,880 So stress, stress can make you sick. 798 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:47,760 Is is is obviously true. 100% and when I was 12 or 13 years 799 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,880 old, my father read a Scientific American article to me. 800 00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,480 My father was a physician that said that if you took all of the 801 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,440 cholesterol out of somebody's diet, that you could lower their 802 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,680 blood serum cholesterol level by about 7:00 or 8%. 803 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:09,560 And if you gave them put them into a high stress situation 804 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:15,600 like accountants during tax time or students studying for exams, 805 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,520 their blood serum cholesterol levels would go up 400%. 806 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,800 So and I said to my dad, I said, well, what does that mean? 807 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:28,080 And he said stress kills. So I, I knew that lesson when I 808 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:33,640 was like 12 years old. But that said, you know, I also 809 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,240 had arguments with my father because he said that when people 810 00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:38,800 came into his office, they wanted him to give them a pill. 811 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:44,200 And I said, well, why don't you suggest other things? 812 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,360 And he goes, because the guy who's got high blood pressure 813 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,560 because he's got a bad marriage or a shitty job isn't going to 814 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,240 divorce his wife or quit his job. 815 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,840 So you got to give him something. 816 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:59,040 That was my dad's argument. So what's the moral of the story 817 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,160 then? I think the moral of the story 818 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:07,320 is that we need to pay attention to words and how they impact our 819 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,880 reality. Because the the method that you 820 00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:12,520 and I are using right now in order to communicate with each 821 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,720 other and to the people who are watching this video is all based 822 00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:19,920 on language. And language ultimately winds up 823 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,080 becoming the vector that shapes all of our realities. 824 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,960 And if we don't pay attention to the way that the words are being 825 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,600 used, then we're going to get manipulated. 826 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:34,000 So if we look out for universal quantifiers, if I've written 827 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,840 many articles on it, if you go to thedukereport.com, you can 828 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,200 find the articles that I've written on linguistics and what 829 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,080 I call epiwar. But if we don't pay attention to 830 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:48,680 the words that are being used to frame our reality, then we're 831 00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,480 going to be slaves to the words. So we need to wake up to how 832 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:57,080 words are being used against us. So in the recent COVID era, we 833 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,520 heard a lot of safe and effective. 834 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,080 Safe and effective is a is a deletion of distortion and 835 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,880 generalisation in All in one. And I've written about that. 836 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:15,000 Yes, it's a it, it, it uses a, a particular linguistic form 837 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,680 called A cause effect complex equivalence, which is where you 838 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:22,600 take A cause and effect and you marry it with a a complex 839 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,760 equivalence is any kind of. And, and again, I, we only have 840 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,840 a couple minutes. So if you, if you go to my 841 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,760 website, I can send you a link after this where I actually 842 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,080 specifically talk about that and maybe you could put it in your 843 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,200 show notes. But yeah, safe and effective is 844 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,840 a cause effect, complex equivalence, which is the 845 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,400 pattern, that is, that is used by tyranny in order to control 846 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,240 us. Doesn't the UN also use it for 847 00:54:47,240 --> 00:54:49,200 its sustainable development goals? 848 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,280 I mean, do you really want a world? 849 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:53,720 Yeah. I mean, I mean, they want to 850 00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:58,040 wipe out worldwide poverty. Why would anybody be against 851 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,160 that, Peter? But you wouldn't be. 852 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:05,160 But that's but but that but there's a deletion going there. 853 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,320 At what cost? How are you going to do that? 854 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:13,040 What's the process that you use for being able to manage that? 855 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,560 You know, Elon Musk has all these like really clever tweets 856 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,720 where he's talking about how robots are going to serve 857 00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:21,640 everyone. And the question is, who's 858 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,200 everyone? OK. 859 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,480 You mean the people that that the people that are still alive 860 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,520 after you do Pandemic 2? Is that the is that, is that the 861 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:31,920 everyone that you're talking about? 862 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:36,120 The people who have a locker in the bunker, you know, as 863 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,120 Catherine Austin Fitz might put it. 864 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,520 What do you make of Elon? I think he's a cut out. 865 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,960 I think he's a, he's a construct. 866 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,840 He, I think all these people are constructs. 867 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:53,880 I don't, I don't believe in the Horatio Alger myth of somebody 868 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,240 who pulls themselves up by their bootstraps. 869 00:55:56,240 --> 00:55:59,680 I think that they're anointed. It doesn't mean that he's not 870 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,640 smart. It doesn't mean that he's not a 871 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:06,680 99 percentile thinker, but he was chosen for this role the 872 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:11,920 same way that Peter Thiel and Marc Andreessen and you know, 873 00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,400 yadda, yadda, yeah, Mark Zuckerberg, these these guys are 874 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:20,320 all chosen and they're, they're chosen out of a, there's a 875 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:24,320 process for choosing them. They're certainly not stupid 876 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:28,360 people, but they are given Palmer Luckey, who's somebody 877 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,920 that I've met and, and, and I photographed him. 878 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,200 You know, these people are tapped. 879 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:39,520 They call it at Yale when you get put into Skull and Bones, 880 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,240 they tap you on the shoulder. These guys get tapped and they 881 00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:44,960 say, hey, you want to play, you want to be the white richest man 882 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:49,080 in the world. Jeff Bezos's grandfather was the 883 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,840 first financial director of ARPA. 884 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:56,760 You know, is that an accident that that he winds up becoming? 885 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:04,080 He runs Amazon, which started in New Mexico, by the way, Atomic 886 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,200 Energy Commission. You know, there's all kinds of 887 00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:11,000 weird stuff going on there too. So Catherine might have a point 888 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,240 because she refers to Elon as an operation. 889 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,240 Yeah, I think that that's correct. 890 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,720 I think that's it. She's she's correct. 891 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,400 Like I said, I thought my only criticism ever is I thought she 892 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,360 waffled a little bit with with Tucker, but. 893 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,720 But I like with Tucker's heading, I think he's starting 894 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:37,760 to open up his mind a bit. Maybe Tucker is a member of the 895 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:42,120 Pilgrim Society or or at least was on a roster of Pilgrim 896 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:46,920 Society members in in 2009 and his father was a spook. 897 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:53,520 And when he when he starts talking about again the whole 898 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,880 thing, 911 was an inside job. OK, we know that 911 was an 899 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,800 inside job. That that, that that what what 900 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,480 none of these Catherine Austin Fitz alludes to, that Tucker 901 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,800 doesn't allude to, is that there's a super government, 902 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,480 right? That the United States is not at 903 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:14,080 the top of the food chain, that the CIA is a controlled 904 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,480 operation run out of the City of London. 905 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:23,440 Okay, like they don't go to the Super government tranche. 906 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:28,200 And so when, when Tucker Carlson wants to come around to the fact 907 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:32,240 that World War 2, I I mean the whole argument between Tucker 908 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:36,880 Carlson and whoever he was talking to last week about who 909 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,480 started World War 2. Like it doesn't even talk about 910 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,480 King Edward the 7th setting up World War One. 911 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,480 It doesn't talk about the bank, about the City of London and 912 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,320 Wall Street manufacturing Hitler. 913 00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,120 I don't know if you've had the guys on who wrote the book 2 914 00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:57,560 World Wars and Hitler, but it's the most besides MES the it's 915 00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,360 the, I think it's the most important book out. 916 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,400 There's two books right out right now that everybody should 917 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:07,680 read, which is the the Predators versus the people by Meese. 918 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:09,120 And I can't pronounce his last name. 919 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:14,680 He's Belgian. And and then John O'Dowd and and 920 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:19,000 Jim McGregor's book 2 World Wars in Hitler like it's a life 921 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,600 changing. These two books are Life to read 922 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,320 2 World Wars and Hitler 1st and your life will change. 923 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:29,400 How can my audience follow you? Just go to thedukereport.com you 924 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:36,920 can find links to articles that I've written. 6 minute video 925 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,920 explainers on a hundred of the most important books that you 926 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:45,040 could read right now. Links to almost 300 half an hour 927 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,800 podcasts on the most important books that you could read right 928 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,600 now. And and it also links. 929 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,680 I have a a book section that you that that you go in link to 930 00:59:54,880 --> 01:00:00,200 where I've got almost 1015 hundred word summaries of the 931 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,240 most important books that you could read right now. 932 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:06,840 These are all books that are written by well known authors 933 01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,680 and journalists. But they just never made the New 934 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:14,200 York Times bestseller list. Peter Duke, thank you for 935 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,400 joining me in the trenches. Thanks, Jeremy. 936 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:17,760 I'll come back anytime you want.