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Welcome back to the Crown Cinema podcast.
In this episode, we are breaking down.
And literally just watched the Town classic written, directed
and starring Ben Affleck. Benny boy.
AKA the wasted Batman. Yep.
You know, you're such a, such a good Batman, but they just kind
of messed that one up. This is from what I remember.
I was 10 years old when this movie came out, but apparently
this is like a big deal for Ben Affleck's career because at this
point, not good. And I I do know about the the
Jlo relationship. They also did a movie together
that was like the worst movie of all time.
Considered. Yeah, like, no, this is the
worst. Like, no, seriously, Ben, people
are quite literally saying this is the worst movie ever.
Yeah, so, so he's coming up off of that.
I don't know if Gone Girl has come out yet or I don't know if
this is I I don't know if the town is like the first one where
it's like, all right, wait a minute, Ben's here to play.
Yeah, I do know, like, it brought his career back.
Like a lot was riding on this for Ben Affleck.
So it was kind of crazy for a lot of pressure from, you know,
like you're going to star an act for the first time ever.
I mean, sorry, star indirect for the first time ever.
OK, for like the career changing movie because it's, you know, I,
I think he's kind of getting back to his roots.
I mean, he did pretty much Co star and write goodwill hunting.
So we know that Ben Affleck like, you know, just as far as
like being like a Hollywood star.
He's not just an actor. He brings a lot more to the
table. He can bring a lot to the
writers room, all of that. So now him directing is just
showing like no, I can, I can carry.
I can do a lot for the city. Like you don't want to lose me
as a star power. He said during because obviously
he's having, he can't watch himself.
He can't really take direction from anybody because he's the
director. I'm sure somebody's there to
kind of coach the performance, but at the end of the day, it's
what he wants to do with his performance.
So I think he gave a lot of different takes and variation
through it and he just directed himself in the edit.
So he then like would pick what he wanted.
Like I didn't. Yeah, wouldn't.
That be the best way to go about that anyway.
Probably, yeah. It's just like, look like,
'cause he, I mean, if you're the director and the writer, that
means you literally know what this movie looks like in your
head. You already exactly know what it
looks like. So.
So I think that's kind of, I mean, I guess if you're a star
and the director though, but not the writer, maybe that makes it
a little bit more difficult. Yeah.
But I don't know, I think if you for sure write and direct you,
you know exactly like what you want your character.
To yeah, front and back. I mean, you spent all the time
preparing for every single character.
You've written the character, you prepare for acting the
character. You know the pressure's on.
There's a fan theory that this is his character from Goodwill
Hunting staying back in Boston. Wow, like.
This is what happened whenever Matt Damon left him.
When when Will Hunting left him, this is what he became.
It's a good theory. I mean, I I think there's like a
lot that Ben Affleck probably just like had fun with on this
movie. I personally think this is just
his Batman audition tape. Actually, Zack Snyder said
watching The Town was the reason why he wanted to have Ben
Affleck as Batman. OK, well, let me, I wrote, I
wrote my points down like I This is why I believe this is just a
straight up Batman audition tape because, you know, like this.
So it's 2010. They probably shot it in 2009.
I'm sure the DC Universe has made it.
Like I'm sure the news is out in Hollywood.
Like, yeah, they're, they're wanting to do the big one and
Marvel's on it. So like DC, we got to get on on
it too. Like Marvel is creating Iron Man
and one day Iron Man is going to team up with Spider Man.
And then like, oh shit, The Avengers is happening.
So DC is like, all right, we got to do Justice League.
So it's out and about. They're looking for Batman.
Ben Affleck's like, fuck, that'd be great.
But I'm really screwing things up right now, so I got to, you
know, I got to bounce back, so. He has the perfect look for a
Bruce Wayne. Yeah.
And like, so he kind of showcases it in this movie
specifically. First off, like we see him doing
an isolated at home workout. Insane shape.
In the dark. In the dark, Yeah.
He's like shredded up. Yeah.
Just six pack. Like what?
All right. Where did that come from?
Yeah, he's got kind of a stoic personality in this movie.
You know, he doesn't drink and he's always kind of just
calculated amongst his, you know, kind of dip shit friends.
Living a double life. Yeah, he's living a double life,
which brings me to he's in love with a girl, even though his
lifestyle won't allow them to be together until he can hang up
the Cape. The Dark Knight, The Dark.
Knight. Yeah, like that's literally.
Dark Knight. That's it's.
That's the whole. What's the last issue?
That's The Dark Knight. Returns OK make sure I got it
right. But that's the whole trilogy is
Christian Bale is like wanting to save the city, but he does
want to retire so he can be with Rachel Ben Affleck.
It's like, you know, I want to do I want to do this last score.
All right, I'm in. Doesn't he end up with Catwoman
though? What in The Dark Knight?
Yeah. Isn't he with Anne Hathaway?
Yeah, he does. But this is, you know, there's
always different versions of Batman.
Sure, sure. I mean, Rachel fucking dies in
the second movie. That's why.
That's really why he's good at combat.
But more importantly, he disappears.
You know, he just kind of disappears into the cop crowd,
kind of like Batman. You just look around, he's gone.
And last but not least, fucked up upbringing.
Yep, he's got a bad childhood that has clearly left him
traumatized, but it has also just made him the man that he is
he. Even has a Batman jump across 2
buildings. Yeah, Oh my God.
That was. We called that while we were
watching the movie. I was like, that's what Batman
does. Literally.
Yeah, literally Batman like jumps across buildings.
You can look at every single Batman movie and they can find
that shot. Yeah, of the He's just missing a
Cape, That's all. Ben Affleck was missing was a
Cape. Yeah, I think there's times too,
like just during the movie, he kind of, you know, he kind of
talks like this. He gets a little low FBI, you're
working with the FBI, just trying out a little Batman
voice. He's just giving you a little
little snippet of like, you know, obviously I got the the
Boston accent going, but like, you know, I can get to this
level. He's warming.
People take me serious on screen.
He's just warming it up for the night time.
Right as the as the sound starts to set, he just kind of gets a
little bit lower. Yeah, before he's Batman.
Yeah, I think Ben Affleck, like, you know, he just kind of knows
what he's doing. Like, he knows what he looks
like. So he's got this, this 5:00
shadow all throughout the movie. And then like when he clenches
his jaw at the right time, like you can see the light hitting it
really well. It's like, wow, what a jawline.
Even when you look at like cartoon Batman, like the cartoon
TV show they did or the comic books, like this is what he
looks like. If you made him a real, like a
real face, it's literally Ben Affleck.
Yes. Oh, dude, I mean, I say, I say
wasted Batman, wasted potential. But here's the thing that I I
feel like I've learned through watching like bad movies is, you
know, like the one thing you do get out of like a bad movie, you
get to see who the good actors are, Right.
And so Ben Affleck, go ahead. Yeah.
Like Ben Affleck in Superman versus Batman.
Like I was specifically thinking about the Bruce Wayne scene
where he's meeting Clark Kent, you know, and like that just
that first interaction between them.
He's such a good Bruce Wayne, like so good at just kind of the
the Playboy that doesn't want to be at the party.
But like he has to put on face, like you can see actually deep
in his eyes that like he's pissed, he's hurting, hasn't
gotten over his parents. The best example of a shitty
movie having you see who the actors are is Rain of Fire.
Yeah. You see McConaughey and
Christian Bale acting their asses off in the shitty dumb
premise of a movie, but it's it's it's so fun to watch
because they take it so seriously.
Yeah, no, I, I, I actually, you know, I, I just saw like Matt
Damon kind of had a quote where he was just talking about like,
it sucks when you, you know, obviously Matt Damon has an
incredible career, but he does have movies where it's like,
damn, I can't believe he was in that.
But it's just one of those where it's like, OK, you kind of know
that the movie sucks, which would take a toll on you when
it's like, damn dude, I'm here for like 3 months, 15 hour days,
but like, you got to go act your ass off.
Right, you still got to because you.
Got paycheck, you still you still got to show out for
because somebody's going to go watch this movie and be like,
damn, like when when it gets tough for Matt Damon, he stops
caring. So it's like you can't, you
can't have that reputation. Right.
And yeah, I mean, even though it's if you're in a movie and
you know it's going to be bad, you still have to give a good
performance because it's still your resume.
Like even though the movie might be bad, it's still you showing
either bad acting or good acting in a bad movie.
So I again, I think the town like it's a great movie.
I think it's definitely like a big Batman audition.
Also, just the fact that like Ben Affleck, like Dougie in this
movie just cannot get over his mom and then his dad's like, God
almighty, I didn't think you'd carry it like a fucking disease.
I just think of like all the like, there's a lot of Batman
kind of spoof videos and I'm just thinking where like this
dude literally does like the Christian Bale Batman, The Dark
Knight boys, and he talks like this, but he just says the most
ridiculous things. Like there's one video.
Is it college humor? Yeah, it is called humor, but
there's one where it's like The Dark Knight meets Superman and
Superman, what happened? Batman pretty much like pokes
fun at him. And he's like, you parent.
He says something about Superman's parents.
He's like, I lost my parents. So did you.
You lost both. He's like, I never had a man.
He just starts crying. He's like, he's like I lost both
my parents as a boy and now I'm a Bat.
Those are so good. He just, yeah, he never gets
over his parents time. Yeah.
So it's good. Yeah, it's good.
Ben Affleck like shows that he can carry the the weight of his
parents. He does have that.
He has that good where he can just carry a set, like sad eyes,
like he didn't look sad, but just like you can tell there's
something deep inside of him like Gone Girl.
That's why Gone Girl looks. It works so well.
It's because he appears so guilty throughout Gone Girl,
like he looked like he killed his wife.
God, don't spoil it. No, you know.
Oh. Did you just spoil it?
You might have. No, no, no.
The whole movie, The whole premise that they think he
killed his wife. Right.
I like I I was just saying before we watched this, it's
been so long and I've only seen it once, but it's been so long
that I forgot what happens in Gone Girl.
So I'd love to we got to do that.
That's an insane movie. That is an insane movie.
Yeah, but no, he, I wonder if like maybe his real life kind of
takes a toll. I mean, I feel like it might
have to. I think Ben Affleck, like, we
don't know, because we were so young.
I think Ben Affleck was like, big time celebrity.
Yeah. Especially when he was dating
Jlo. 100% yeah. So then, you know, they break up
and now he's just having to go through the shit of, like,
tabloids and everybody just poking in on his life.
Yeah. It makes sense that he can do a
movie where he can just play. Just fucking tired.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, we've all seen the memes
too. They're not even the meme.
It's just a picture of Ben Affleck.
Like just clearly. Yeah, like.
Tired of everybody and he's just smoking a cigarette, yeah.
So done. So done with his his
relationship. Yeah, well, and then I mean,
he's even gone on interviews, like I saw like when him and
Matt Damon just came out with their new movie.
The RIP. Yeah, the RIP.
And he just went on to sit like he was on Joe Rogan.
He was telling me he was like, you know, a lot of people think
that I got into this business. It's like be famous.
Like the truth is, I fucking hate being famous.
I legit just love making movies, love the process of it.
There's a it's writing, directing, acting, like I'm I'm
in love with the art. I would love it if I could just
do this without the fame, but I can't and.
You need the fame a little bit to allow yourself to do that.
Yeah, 'cause it's, it's a little bit of a double edged sword that
he's telling Joe Rogan like, I could do without the fame, but
it's like, well, without the fame you're not getting on this
Joe Rogan podcast. Yeah, exactly to.
Promote this one movie. Yeah, yeah.
I mean. You know that this is going to
get millions of views. It's a rare breed of person I
think that enjoys the fame. Like I think most people that
are like serious about their project, they don't necessarily
enjoy the fame of like no privacy.
I think you take it as a job, yeah, Like it's an extension of
the job. That's why everybody every like
rich pop, you know, famous celebrity, they live in like a
compound away from the world. They need like some privacy.
They got giant walls, giant gates, because people just peer
in constantly. Yeah, kind of find out what are
you doing. Yep.
No, it would get sold so quick. But again, I I think if applied
to the personality correctly, you get a performance like we
see in the town. The town's kind of like heat in
Boston. I have like a whole thing of
like all the heat references that are in this movie because I
think there's like a pretty decent amount and I think I
don't think we saw in this, but I I think there's even a scene
like in the extended cut of the town, whether you see Dougie
straight up watching Heat the movie.
So I think it was like a four hour cut.
Yes, you're right. There is an extended cut where
in the background Heat's playing.
Yeah, I saw that too. Yeah, like the original cut was
like 4 hours and he turned it to 2:30 and I'm like, we'd really
love it if it was like 2 hours. He said all right, And he made
it 2 hours and 4 minutes. Yeah.
Which is what the runtime is theatrically.
Yeah, 'cause. And you know, I say this in the
most respectful way. I don't think there's anything
like, incredibly special about this movie.
It's nothing like we haven't seen before.
I still love this movie. Just well done, yeah.
Like it's just a great movie. I think just talking about kind
of heat stuff. Like I think about kind of the
car chase scenes, obviously like the way that they're very
skilled in combat and like the shootouts they have, that
literally looks like heat, sounds like heat.
But then I'm just thinking about the second heist that they do.
You see just the car chase scenes.
Like there's no, there's no like drone shots.
There's no like over the head or anything like that.
Like, you can tell that the cameras are like attached to a
car and like, they're like, there's pretty bad ass chase
scenes that we're getting out of this movie.
The only thing I wish comparing the town with Heat, because they
are kind of similar, is that I would love if Jon Hamm's
character because he has some insane lines, like he gets
really aggressive in the interrogation room.
So I would have loved to have some just like kind of crazier
actor like Al Pacino. She's got a great ass.
Yeah, give us some of those. I wish Jon Hamm's character was
chip and cocaine. That's what I wish.
Yeah, Jon Hamm, he's not chip and cocaine.
I do think he's an alcoholic, which I wonder if the extended
cup would have touched more on that.
But like you, I just feel like we constantly see him, but he's
also playing the complete opposite.
You know, he's the antagonist to the protagonist, which is which
is Dougie. And Dougie does not drink.
But then the guy that's chasing him like never does not have a
drink in his hand. He's like constantly sipping on
whiskey. Is he?
I didn't even pick that up. He pulls up, Yeah, he goes into
the bar. That Blake Lively's characters
and what's her name? Chrissy.
Some like. No, it's like.
I feel like you see him walking. Christa.
Yeah, I feel like you see him walking through the door with a
beer in his hand already before he even gets into the bar.
I I don't think that's anything like crazy.
I just wonder if like the extended cut maybe touched a
little bit more on that. I think Jon Hamm plays a really
good like FBI lawman. He looks like a straight,
straight and narrow kind of guy. He can play that character well.
So I wish he was a little bit more of a rugged, like maybe a
guy from Southie that just became an FBI agent that's like
from the same area or something. Yeah, because they kind of
played with that idea. You know, they do have one of
the the FBI agents that does come from Charlestown.
Yeah, I think he's the, I think he's the police, like the chief
of police is working with the FBI.
Oh, is that what? At least in the opening scene,
he's wearing a police vest and he could talk the first time he
talks to Jon Hamm's character. OK, He's in police.
Police uniform, OK. So yeah, I did like that.
I don't know why it like. This guy's in it.
I didn't see him. The guy Gabriel from the Mission
Impossible, the last two movies. When is he in it I.
Don't know. He doesn't even have a credit.
He's got to be a cop or something.
No, he got shot. There's no way he was like, you
don't just accidentally. You don't do like a couple of BS
movies and then find yourself as the main villain in a Tom Cruise
franchise. You got to be somebody he's not
even credited. There's no way.
He was just a cop that got shot. He had of just been a cop.
That's crazy. I because I just watch it
back-to-back times. I feel like I would have been
like, hey, wait, there he is. Mr. Impossible.
Mr. Yeah, Mr. Yeah, He turns Eric Carman at the end of it.
Yeah. No.
As far as heat references go, I think the biggest one is
whenever Doug is talking to what is Rebecca Hall's character,
What's her name again? Claire, though.
Doug is talking to Claire on the phone.
He's like, I think I should come over.
She's like, I think you should come over too, Dougie.
No, she's like, yeah, like come over.
And, you know, the feds are in there and he clearly sees them.
That's, I think, reference to Val Kilmer and he talking to to
his, are they married in that movie?
I don't know, talking to his love interest.
And, you know, she sees him through the window and she's
like, yeah, you should come. Right.
And she has a little hand signal.
Yeah, and heat. And yeah, so like, I think
that's a reference. I mean Ben Affleck said that he
he watched Heat and two other crime heist type movies like
this that were his biggest inspirations for the town when
he was creating it. Yeah, like don't you know, don't
run away from from what it. I think it's just one of those.
It's like, OK, it references Heat cool.
It's still clearly its own movie.
It's not just a copycat of Heat. It's not trying to be Heat.
It's not a cat and mouse chase like he is between Pacino and De
Niro. 2 head to Just got some similar vibes.
Yeah, it's. Just it's a crime.
Just be accepting of that. It's a crime movie where the
heist that they're doing is in the background.
Like it's not a heist movie. Yeah, it's a crime movie, Just
that they just do heist in the background.
Right. But then so, yeah, like, let's
just, you know, let's be let's be honest with ourselves here.
Like, yeah, we took some inspiration from Heat.
Still it's own movie. Yep.
And it's a good one. But then so another one is Doug,
like Robert De Niro's character. He wants out of the life.
He just needs one more score. Yep.
But then he he keeps getting pulled back in.
Right when I'm out, they pull me right back.
In so like there's that there's this is probably a stretch, but
like kind of at the, you know, on the third heist, they have
this their boy with them. Is it Dino that does the the
final sacrifice? I'm not sure.
No, no, there's such side characters anyways.
It does. Yeah, I'm, I'm not sure which
one it is, but he kind of reminds me of Tom Sizemore.
Like at the end he just gets kind of he's just like really
into it and he's like, you guys know I could take a pinch.
He's like, wait, what? And he's like, yeah, you do make
a run for it. I'm going to sacrifice.
Yeah. The the ambulance truck kind of
like Tom Sizemore's character and he saying like the action,
like that's, that's the juice. That's what I do it for.
What's the famous line He. The action's the juice.
It's not the score.
That's the juice. It's the action.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like, that's pretty. I kind of just got the same vibe
of that character in in in the town.
Now that's how you drive a fucking car.
Yeah, he just wants a. He's like, you know, I can take
a pinch. He wants to ride off in the
sunset like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid and getting
shot at. Yeah, so there was that, which
was so random, like I just, you don't really see that through
the movie. He's actually like, he's kind of
pissed that they take a hostage. But then in the end, I guess
he's just so juiced up. He's like fuck.
I kind of love this. Well, those two characters have
like no screen time. You don't know anything about
them. But yeah, you don't really you.
Don't even remember their names. I mean, I couldn't tell you.
I know one guy's name is Dez and that's all I know.
There's another. So Jim shoots a guy holding Doug
hostage. Al Pacino does the same thing in
Heat where the I think it's Tom Sizemore and he's holding the
little girl and Al Pacino takes the shot, shoots him.
It's risky. Yeah, Jim does that same thing.
Doesn't even look down the site I noticed.
Straight from the hip. Just from the hip, just because
he's a fucking psycho. Yeah, literally a psycho, Yeah.
Yeah, So those are my, that's what I saw as far as like, oh,
that kind of reminded me of heat.
I don't think it's like direct correlation except for Doug and
Claire. I love that.
That is like so clearly the Val Kilmer shot.
All of that things, they don't tell you exactly what she's
doing, but you know, from the first time they were hooking up
in her house as they had, I don't mean to rush anything, but
came to go to your bedroom. My my aunt crazy uncle lives
there and he can see right into this.
Like, yeah, sure. So they go on and have sex.
So she knows that he knows how to look into the apartment.
So she kind of just sets herself up by getting into that window
to call while the police's are all surrounding her listening
in, you know, so she's like, hopefully he's looking.
And then right before, just to ensure that he's knows that he
can't come. There's a police here.
She's like, hey, it'll just be like one of my sunny days where
she says a sunny day is when I feel, I feel like somebody's
going to die. That's like, do not come.
Sunny days are bad. Yeah.
That was good. Wow.
I didn't even pick up on the fact that like, yeah, she, she
she does know that he knows how to view her from outside the
apartment. That's a good catch.
And in sunny days, you know that she we know her sunny days is a
reminder of her brother's death. So the bad sign if she if she's
like, it's going to be just like one of my sunny days.
If you could come over here. Can't wait to see you part.
Of me does get a little annoyed. Maybe I feel like annoyed's the
right way to put this of just like the cops, the FBI
specifically being kind of stupid.
How so? How are you going to be all up
in that apartment with the blinds wide open?
Like there's that. I just, I'm like, come on,
really. Like we're just going to like
it's so clear that the feds are in the apartment.
So there's that. Whatever.
Well, I guess you can maybe say that's more of a depiction of
how much the people from what's this town called Charlestown
from Charlestown, how much they know the city and the FBI is
just coming into the city. Like we, you know, the movie is
kind of all about Charlestown. The whole robbery culture.
It was passed down through generations.
Like it's a lineage of robbers who, like fathers teach their
sons how to do it. So it's all about the
Charlestown problem with the people that live in there.
So they just know this town very well.
And then you see the FBI coming from the outside.
So they don't know all the tricks and stuff about, you
know, that neighborhood. Yeah, they don't.
Yeah. Let's see what they wouldn't
think about. You know, he probably knows
somebody in this window that can then see in here and blah blah
blah. Yeah, but that kind of, yeah,
that kind of brings me into my second point where I'm like,
damn, like the cops just this stupid where, you know, Ben
Affleck and Jeremy Renner, you know, they disguise themselves
as police and kind of disappear into the cop crowd.
And I'm just like, man, you've got this big of an operation
like nobody's going to recognize these guys.
Yeah, I mean, I would think. Look, there's a little
Hollywood, there's a little Hollywood magic, so I'm not
going to say that it like fucks up the movie for me because it
doesn't. I would just think in a gunfight
your the uniforms make you disappear like your face
disappears in a gunfight. You're just like, I got my cop
to my right, cop to my left. I'm not looking at them.
I'm talking gunfire. Talking after the gunfight where
they, like, disappear, and now they're kind of just like
walking around trying to figure out like, OK, what just
happened? We're still missing.
We're missing. We're missing 2.
Honestly, Jeremy Renner's the dumb ass for carrying the duffel
bag out. Giant target on your back
walking through the crowd. They know you're in coffee
uniforms. Like, dude, just try it, trying
to hide it. You're in a big baseball
stadium. Yeah, you know.
Come back for it later. Come back for it.
Later, just stash it somewhere you know the neighborhood Well
yeah, put it in a dumpster and come back.
Yeah, but that's it. Those are my those are really my
only like 2 I think problems with this movie and they're not
even they're not really necessarily problems like the
cops didn't have to be like that stupid.
But you already the first point I made about the the feds.
Yeah, the the townies. They're just they're not used to
the townies, right. They don't know how to work
around it. Yeah, one of the most iconic
parts of this movie is when the cop, they get out of the truck
when they just robbed the bank. They're about to get in their
getaway vehicle, and they see the cop at the construction
site. Oh, yeah.
And he looks at them and turns away.
That wasn't in the original script.
Ben Affleck, during his preparation for the movie, he
started talking to people that were robbing banks, kind of
hanging out with criminals just to get some things.
He said he was talking to one of the criminals.
Like anything weird you remember, Just like things that
just like happened that you know, are just kind of odd.
Just yeah, well, it's like a cool story.
And he said one time we just got done with the job and we hopped
out of the car. We had our guns and the masks
and everything. And we saw a cop standing there
and he looked at us and he looked the other way because,
like, he knew in that moment, if he tries to do something, he's,
he's a dead man. Yeah.
If he if he makes a call. They call it something.
It's like the V something in Boston where they put all the
dead cops names. I forget what this thing is
called but it's like I don't want to become a name on the V
Whatever. Let me look it up just to.
Like, yeah, 'cause it's not just like we're going to kill you
right now, like we'll come back probably for your family.
Not it's a. Oh, I thought you were talking
about like the criminals have a list of cops that they're going
to like, go after. Well, I think no, no, it's a,
it's like a memorial thing. Like they put the cops names up
anyways I don't know what it is but.
So many somebody in the comments probably can let us.
Know yeah, Ben Affleck said it on the Joe Rogan experience so.
OK, I also, I think I saw it because I think you could
definitely see Matt Damon playing Jeremy Renner's
character. It's like maybe there's like a
little bit of a shock there where I think, I think I heard
Matt Damon. Sadly, Yeah.
I couldn't believe I didn't get to be in this.
Like, what the. You know, what the hell, Ben?
Like we're boys, you know, we, we do this.
But Matt Damon couldn't play the killer.
Well, no. Ben was like, get the fuck out
of here. He, you know, he's like Damon
makes like 20 million on a movie.
Like we just straight up can't afford him, right?
Yeah. Can't pay you to be in the town.
And he, I don't think he could play the bad guy like Jeremy
Rainer is the evil rough willing to kill anybody.
Character. The only Matt Damon could do it.
You're doubting the acting chops of Matt Damon because First off,
I'm more surprised that Jeremy could play this character.
They wanted Mark Wahlberg. That was the original plan, but
he was shooting something else. They couldn't get him.
They got Jeremy Renner. I was thinking, here's here's
here's a curveball. Al Pacino.
No, Jon Bernthal. Oh yeah, 100% yeah.
He's like, I, I think that's absolutely.
John Bernthal is in a movie. He's guaranteed going to be the
Rough Killer character. Yeah, he's like the psycho.
Yeah, yeah, literally every movie.
Ben is constantly like, what are you doing?
He's the Punisher. Stop doing that.
Yeah. John Bernthal is the Punisher.
Yeah, John Bernthal is like the man.
Yeah. Like he's literally, I think if
this movie is made two or three years later than 2010, I think
we get Jon in this film. That would have been good it.
Would have been damn good. It would have been damn good.
Anytime I just see a dude with tattoos and I like He clearly
needs to like take some anger management classes.
Like Jon Bernthal would be great in this role, but no Jeremy
Renner. Pretty stellar performance.
Yeah, you get the coolest part of this movie when Ben Affleck
rolls up to him and tells him, I need you to come with me.
I can't tell you anything about it.
You can't ask questions about it.
But we're going to go hurt some people.
And he's like, whose car are we taking?
Yeah, boys, Boys, if I came to you and said that, what would
you do? I'd be like, what the fuck are
you talking about? Go home to your wife and child?
Yeah, What are you, insane? Yeah.
If you came with me and said that shit, I would.
I'm definitely asking questions. Yeah, I'm, I'm, yeah, I'm asking
questions. I'm not just going to.
Yeah. I'm like, well, I can't agree to
any of that. I need to know exactly what
we're doing. I also need to know, do I just
need to call the cops now or like, yeah, that's what I would
say is like, should I call? Should I call the cops now or
later? Right.
You know, instead of like, oh, whose car are we taking?
Like, oh, who's calling the cops?
Yeah, me or the guy we're beating up.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Not dude, how dare you, no.
No questions. Yeah, right.
No questions. We had to go beat somebody up.
Yeah. Can't tell you about it, just
know it's serious. And you can never ask about it.
Yeah. And then he does ask about it.
So he's not even that good of a. Friend, what if I had like this?
Like the most serious look in my eye.
Like you knew I wasn't kidding. Like something bad happened.
I'm trying to save myself on this podcast by getting this
like as evidence so. When I do ask.
You absolutely not dude. I will not help you heard.
I'm serious bro, I don't. I won't help I.
Don't don't ever put me in that predicament.
I won't help you, but when you, if you ever do ask me that
question, it'll be just like one of Claire's sunny days.
Nice, do that. That was good.
Where were we?
Killing. Killing.
Jeremy Renner. Jeremy Renner, Yeah.
What's his Is he Hawkeye? Is that his name?
Yeah, the worst Avenger. The most the most boring one.
Honestly though, if you think about it, he's kind of cool.
He's kind of cool. Always a guy that shoots only
Beau and Arrow with no superpower.
He's that skilled that he's an Avenger.
He's pretty sick. Though honestly, he's kind of
badass. Yeah, yeah, no disrespect to
Jeremy Renner. No, no, he like almost died
recently. Yeah.
You got ran over by a snowmobile and crushed every bone in his
body. Yeah, I feel like that's
happened, like, maybe a few years ago.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh shit dude, he didn't.
He's in a he has a rock band. I don't think I knew that.
Yeah. I don't really, I don't know
much about Jeremy Renner except for he's kind of taking Matt
Damon roles apparently because there's this movie where it's
like, damn, Matt Damon arguably could have played Gem in my
opinion, maybe not yours. And then he does end up playing
in a Bourne movie as like, I don't know if he's literally
Jason Bourne, but he. No, he's like.
He's like pretty much Jason Bourne.
Yeah, he's like this, the secondary.
No, he's not. He's trying to catch Jason
Bourne, I think, and then I think he helps him or something.
But maybe he is. Maybe he is born.
I don't know. I don't remember.
I haven't seen that in a long time.
He's not. He's not Jason Bourne in The
Bourne Legacy. I know that, but I mean he's
just a program mine, I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, he has the same like
dementia. Yeah.
Yeah, whatever. Yeah, whatever they give him.
What else? Give him his code word and it
becomes a Mission Impossible of. Course.
He's the he's the nerd who's actually a spy.
Oh, that's right. Tom Cruise is like Tees on to
him and he pulls a gun and Jamie Ritter.
Yep. He's like, so you're just an
analyst, huh? Yeah, a rival.
We love arrival around here. I haven't seen Wind River, but I
do know it's a really good movie.
I'm trying to I've been putting that one off.
Sometimes I put off good movies like so I'm like, I want, I want
to lock in when I watch it. What is wind?
River Taylor Sheridan wrote it OK, like a murder mystery crime
thriller. Damn, I've never seen it.
Really. It's really good.
Oh, Taylor Shader also directed it.
OK, I've never seen Hurt Locker. What?
I've heard good things. A great movie.
I'm still hearing great things. Female director.
Nice. That's awesome.
Hansel and Gretel, I'm sure that's great.
Somebody. Looks like top tier quality.
He's holding a chainsaw sword. Wake up dead man a knives knives
out tail right mystery mystery. That was good.
I saw that one that was good tag.
I didn't see the Black Widow movie I.
Think I did, yeah. I think it was good actually.
Nice. OK.
Is he Dahmer? Did he play Jeffrey Dahmer?
No way. Oh shit, that is him.
Is that him or is he just in the movie?
Nah it looks like him. Like creepy version.
That's him. That him.
Whoa, whoa. And God that eats people.
How did well? How did that movie do well?
We haven't heard about it, but also.
I mean, it's probably a pretty messed up movie.
Oh my God. Estimated.
OK, it was pretty small. Though Oh well.
The widest release was 5 theaters.
OK. It's pretty small budget.
International gross was $4000. Total gross is $144,000 against
their $250,000 budget. So it's pretty fat flop.
It's also a small movie. Yeah, I don't think anybody saw
it. I didn't see it anyways other
performances in the town. Imagine you like how you like
play a character where you eat people and you like this dark
twisted guy. And just like nobody saw it,
nobody saw it. I went to this crazy headspace
for this movie and nobody even watched it.
Hey, I bet he gives a really good performance though.
Bad movie but good actor. Yep, Rain of fire 2 point O
Yeah, Dahmer. Blake Lively showing up out of
nowhere. I like her character.
I think Van Affleck made her like, go hang out with people
from Charlestown. I think he took the accents
pretty seriously. I think that's pretty safe to
say He he's got a lot of Boston. Is he from Boston?
Him and Matt Damon are, yeah, but he doesn't have an accent
anymore. But when he like, tells stories,
like kind of tired, he brings it back out.
Yeah. Code switches real quick back to
his roots, yeah. Yeah, we're just the only thing
we're missing in this movie is Dougie getting a cup of coffee
from a Dunkin' Donuts. Yeah.
But Blake Lively coming out of nowhere.
I mean, granted, I'm not like a crazy Blake Lively fan.
I don't think I've seen really anything that she's done other
than this. But I know that she's big to a
lot of people. About that movie where it's like
the the weed, the guy that sells weed and he has like 2 two
girlfriends and Blake Lively is one of them.
Like they're like they're they're throuple I.
Don't know. As soon as she did that Gossip
Girl show, yeah, that was big. It ends with us.
I watched that with Mercedes my wife and that was a complete dog
shit ROM com. Romance.
What about the age of Adeline? I've actually been seeing this
movie like kind of floating around the Internet.
The Shallows. I've heard of the shallows.
Dog shit. Green Lantern, great movie.
Yeah. No.
Look at the age of Adeline. That's she did that with
Harrison Ford. This one actually looks kind of
intriguing. She stays the same age and at
one point she falls in love with like a young Harrison Ford.
Then I don't know, I guess she like kind of fakes her death.
She starts dating another guy, Harrison Ford's son and like
Harrison Ford's son brings her to meet his parents and Harrison
Ford walks in. He's like.
What the fuck? Whoa.
He's like sorry you just you look like somebody that I
friends with back in the day. It's like they were in love.
Anyways, looks pretty enticing. Yeah, that's an interesting
premise. Right.
Yeah, but in this movie, she you know who she'd be a great couple
with? Savage is the things what I'm
talking about. I haven't heard of that, but you
know who should be like a great couple with?
Because here's the thing, Blake Lively's character in this movie
is so annoying, but like also kind of cool, but really just
annoying because that accent is nuts, but it's like the right
accent. Yeah, she's playing her
character well. She's playing her character
really well and she's on drugs. So like just kind of, I used to
smoke that shit to the sting. Away.
Yeah, just that kind of thing. You know who she would be like a
great couple with in an episode we just did.
Beyond the Place Beyond the Pines.
Yeah. Bradley Cooper's son.
He's like you coming to my potty.
Yes. You bring in the Oxys.
Yes. And she, yeah, she's like.
She's literally, yeah, she's literally addicted to Oxys.
Yep, talks just like that. Looks trashy as hell.
Trashy as hell, but. Still beautiful.
Kind of like Ben Affleck.
What are you doing? You can turn a hoe into a
housewife. Yeah, he's Yeah, he's yeah.
He's bringing a little bit of his real life into the work.
Yeah, but her ass and go to Florida.
Yeah, yeah, so. But then she delivers one of my
favorite lines in the movie. Whenever Jon Hamm walks through
the door, she's like, well, if it isn't missed at six inches.
Yeah. And then she's like, you hit it
to solve the case and he's like, what happened?
He's like you, Mr. Crime Stopper.
You figure it out. Yeah.
Like, that's good. That's pretty.
That's pretty impressive. Like how they all call the cops.
Crime Stoppers. Yeah, Crime Stoppers.
Yeah, so good performances. The town's been like a childhood
staple of mine. Like I've watched it many times.
Had it on Blu-ray. I don't, I don't know how many
times I've seen it, to be honest with you.
So this came out in 2010, so I was 10 years old and the trailer
like scared me. Those nun masks are scary.
Right. Yeah.
So like, I, I just remember I saw the trailer, I saw those
masks and I was like, oh, oh, it just, I think what it was is
that when I was a kid, I accidentally got shown.
Oh my God. It's a Jamie Foxx movie.
And Oh my God, Russ, is it? No, no, hold on.
Oh, we messaged him. Gerard Butler.
Gerard. Butler.
Yeah, but I cannot remember the name of the movie right now.
Anyways, it's like a like a mess.
Of the The Olympics has fallen or whatever.
No, not that. That's Jamie Foxx, too.
Is it really he's the president? I want to get this right because
I'm sure our fans have heard of this law abiding Citizen.
I've actually talked about it like in earlier episodes, but
this movie, it's like, just kind of like a really messed up,
like, crime thriller movie where Drawer Butler is like a skilled
CIA operative, right? And his family gets brutally
murdered. And then the guy that murders
his family, like, gets off based, you know, just like, it's
like kind of a corrupt system. And so Drawer Butler, like, goes
after everybody that was involved in the case and, like,
kills them. Yeah.
And in that movie, which I saw way too young, I think I was
like 9 or 10 years old when I saw it, there's a very, very
brutal torture scene. And it's horrifying.
And so I think just at that point, like I was horrified of
just anything that was like kind of violent like that.
And so when I saw the trailer for this, I think it just like
kind of brought me back to like, Oh no, I'm kind of, I'm kind of
getting a feeling about this one.
Like there's probably some messed up stuff in there.
So it took me a while to see this movie, but I love it now
It's. Great.
I love the opening quote when it's showing all the quotes
about Charlestown and it's like, I'm proud to be from
Charlestown. It definitely ruined my life.
But I'm proud, yeah, definitely ruined my life.
Yeah, they do a good job of showing like just the corruption
in the projects and how everybody's like kind of under
control over like under, like Fergus, he's the, he's the one
that's pretty much running the town.
And boy, oh, boy. I mean, he's horrifying.
He's a pretty scary individual. That scene when Doug walks into
the shop and he's like, I'm here to pay my respects, but I just
want you to know this job you got, I'm not going to be on it,
he says. You don't do this job for me.
I'm going to chop your nuts. But and like, see like that
voice that I did, you're like, oh, that's kind of funny.
But it's the fact that he's like smacking his gum and he's like
cutting these plants. It's.
Like the roses? Yeah, it's just the, it's the,
it's the Clippers on the plants with him saying like, I'm going
to clip your nuts. It's like oh shit he clips nuts.
This is. This is his thing.
This ain't a figure of speech. No, he is literally like, I'm
going to clip your nuts. Yeah.
And like that very eerie scene, you know, to where I'm just
like, oh, fuck, like kind of kind of find myself crossing my
legs, like, just thinking like, this guy does this.
Yeah. And that athlete.
Yeah. Just having the literally the
balls, the balls, the nuts to be like, like, who the fuck do you
think you are? Yeah, you hear me?
I'm not fucking doing it. I mean, just think about the
disrespect you have because like, he's the one that's been
leading the crew. He's like, I'm my own man.
And even though I live in this town doing crime, I'm not, I'm
not going to be here forever. I've seen so many people ruin
their lives being here forever. And then he's like.
What the fuck you think you can? Just tell me where I can live
and what I can do. Also, it's just bad.
It's bad decision making, it's bad business because they barely
just got away with their last heist and they've been going
like back-to-back, clearly. Foxy wants to speak on the mic.
She got something to say. Just trying to say I'm going to
clip your nuts. Take it easy there, Foxy.
But that's where like I'm kind of with Duck on this.
I'm like, dude, like talk about the heat being on you.
Like, they literally like the whole neighborhood is seeing
that there's FBI agents, like just taking pictures of
everybody. So it's like, bro, this is
clearly not a good time. And this is a big job that
they're talking about. This is, you know.
Literally went wrong. Yeah.
And they they all died. Yeah, it's it's just bad
business. So him being like, I'm not
fucking doing it like that's yeah, you shouldn't.
You should just ran. Like why stick around?
Just fucking Hey, we're actually leaving tonight.
They probably got eyes on it. Yeah.
And they, and they literally do 'cause like he pulls up to her
place or maybe it's his place, I don't know.
But like one of their places has the Funeral arrangements and.
They're like, I think it's his. Yeah, you better.
You better do this. He's like, let me know, I'll
send the Funeral arrangements to your place.
I know we. I know where you live now.
Yeah, who is this guy 'cause I? He's been in.
I think he's in Snatch. OK, maybe, maybe not.
'Cause he does a great job. He's scary.
Daniel Day Lewis could have done a good job too.
Pete Pasta. Wife, wife.
Wait. Oh, look at it.
Oh sorry, I didn't realize you were saying his name.
Not. Just making noises.
I yeah, I didn't know what just came out of your mouth there.
It's like, dude, are you having a stroke right here?
Right. Now than the usual suspects.
Maybe he's not Snatch. Think it's somebody else.
What? The one that feeds him to the
pigs. No, no.
No. Oh, I think I know who you're
getting him confused. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know who it is, but yeah, it's not him.
The last of the that was the Mohicans.
Just the town. That's insane.
Scary role. You think you'd be playing a lot
more bigger scary roles. He was good in this one.
James and the Giant Peach. What else do I have?
Oh, yeah. I mean, I think there's like
just a little bit. I'm not.
I don't even want to say this is like the wrong way to go about
it. Because really what I'm getting
at is whenever Rebecca Hall's character tells Doug, like,
yeah, like, I was just part of a bank robbery, like, they took me
as a hostage, and he immediately just goes into like, detective
mode. He's like, really?
Like, what they what does that look like?
You know, they, they asking you some questions what's going on?
Instead of being like, holy shit, I'm so sorry.
That's awful. Wow.
I can't believe you even said yes to a date with me.
Was. So that was blood on your shirt.
Wow. I saw that, too.
Yeah, that's fucked up. I can't believe you agreed to go
on a date with me. Oh, my God.
And then she goes on to tell him, like, yeah, like, I've also
been walking through the projects and people are, like,
throwing bottles at me, destroying my car.
Like, wow, I can't believe you are agreeing to go on dates with
guys right now. It sounds like you are kind of
in a fiery situation. Sounds like somebody's got it in
for you. Yeah, not only that, he's
questioning immediately. And then she's like, yeah, but I
think I he's like, they got any leads?
She's like, no. And he's like, she's like, but I
think I could recognize their voice if I heard it.
He's like, it's probably a lot harder than you think.
Just had to give himself out to get caught immediately.
Yeah, because so he does it the first time.
And I'm thinking, OK, she hasn't had time to, like, process
anything. Like she, you know, she can't
even imagine. Like, that's the craziest thing
that's ever happened to her in her life.
She's not even thinking about the possibility that, you know,
it's, it would be crazy enough for the guy to like, come back
and like, start dating her. That's actually crazy, right?
People make movies. Also, she approached him, so the
odds of that are so low. Yeah, which is, you know, it's
kind of a smart thing for Ben Affleck's character for him to
capitalize on it because it's like, OK, because she did
approach me, I can actually use this to my advantage to just
straight up ask her questions. Yeah, he won't suspect me.
Right. But just like, so that happens
the first time in the truck. Then I think it's like a couple
dates later, she, you know, she gets talking about the FBI and
that sort of thing. Oh, she knows the tattoo and
what it looks like. And he's like, play COD.
You know, you got a cod here, but you don't have to play it.
And then he like breaks it all down for me.
And he's like, yeah, I watched a lot of CSI.
Like shut the fuck up, Doug you. Guys have been like, that's
insane. You could have been like low key
on us and been like, you know, I grew up in this town.
I kind of know how everything works.
Yeah. She would have believed it
because like, clearly this is a bank robbery town, There's a lot
of criminals in here. So of course, if he's grown up
around it, he would probably know the tricks and trades of
police investigations. That could have even, like, been
a better. Yeah, like if he says that and
then later on when she meets Jim and like, what?
What if she does see a tattoo? You know, he could have been
like, I mean, yeah, you know, Jem's done some time.
Dude, you had that. I love that scene when she's
talking to Jamie Renner at lunch when he kind of invades their
date and he's pressing her and stuff, and it's just
uncomfortable with attention so. Well, because you just see Ben
Affleck just on the edge of your seat, on the edge of his seat,
putting you on the edge of your seat.
And then he's just like, waiting for him to get up right when he
gets up smack on the back of the neck to, like, hide his tattoo.
Yeah, tell him by. I feel like my only problem with
that scene. Let me see if I got this right.
OK, so we've got Jem in the middle of Doug and Claire.
So when he's talking to Claire, that means they're good.
There's no way she can see the tattoo because he's got his neck
to her. Like looking at her then when he
looks at Jem or no when Jem looks at Doug.
Like she would clearly be able to see it, No?
Because when you look forward, I can't see the back of your neck.
But that's, you know, he wouldn't be turned.
Like if we're close, it'd be like talking like this and then
like this, you know, I mean, he's like.
If I was doing this. They're like this to this, you
know what I mean? It's like way back then.
I'm just saying at one point you see the, you see Jim like fully
turn around, but then when the next angle hits it doesn't, it
doesn't match. Yeah, right, Right.
Oh yeah. Yeah, it doesn't match.
And I was like. Movie match I.
Was like, that's cheating. Yeah, that's I I kind of had an
issue with that. I was like, dude, this is like a
very this is the whole point of the scene is that she can't see
his neck. So if he makes that turn that
needs to be caught and like reshot, yeah, yeah.
Because it kind of messed with me.
He like fully the angle that he looks at the IT would.
Have shown. Yeah.
And like, I remember, you know, watching it last night for like,
oh, no, I think last night was probably my third time watching
the town. I was like, holy shit, she's
going to see it because, like, he fully turns around.
She's looking right at the back of his head now.
And then it just cuts to the next scene and like it's just
he's standing at a different angle.
Yeah. I was like, they kind of messed
that one up. One thing I was thinking about
is Claire, if she goes off to Florida to go meet Ben Affleck,
Dougie, they're. Just going to follow her feds.
Feds are just going to follow her.
Maybe, I don't know, you got to give some time, wait for the
heat to cool off and bounce. But anyway, she if they do end
up getting together happily ever after, she goes to his little
fishing shack out in Florida. She kind of gets to have the
coolest story ever because like she gets to say that she helped
him rob a bank because she's the one that opened the safe.
You know, he then they had a moment together opening the
safe. So like she could be like, yeah,
me and your father, he robbed a bank before.
But she doesn't have to also have all the guilt that Dougie
has of like killing people, the stress of it all.
She just gets a, she gets a bad ass story.
Something I noticed in this movie, I don't think Doug ever
kills anybody. At the end he does.
Who does he kill? He goes, I mean, first of all,
the two bad guys. He kills some police officers.
Oh, my bad. My bad.
Does he kill any police officers?
No, no, no. OK, so he does.
Didn't Doug you kill the the guard that was taking his boat
boy? That was Jim.
Jim killed him. Yeah, because again, I was like,
Jim's a fucking psycho. He doesn't even look down the
site. Got you.
You can hear Doug telling the guy that has him hostage, he's
like, come on, you don't want to be stupid here.
Like just let me go. Don't try and be a hero.
I think he only kills after he tells her he hasn't killed.
I think he only kills Ferg and his buddy in the shop but I
swear watching this movie like every time you see him shoot a
gun you never see it hit an officer.
OK. An Affleck does not kill cops.
I think the guy, the guy they shot, whoever, you know, the guy
that held one of their boys hostage during the robbery, got
out of the truck when he wasn't supposed to.
They wanted to get the guy that Ben Affleck was worried about.
I'm not sure. You can't.
You can't really tell who that was that shot.
I think that's it's Jim. Now, OK, yeah, I wouldn't
believe it's Jim if it was Ben Affleck.
He didn't kill him. He doesn't.
Yeah, because. He said he survived and they
said if I hadn't found out, if I could, I would drown his ass and
fucking charge you with murder. Yeah, I'd put a towel over his
face and choke him till he died so I can charge you with murder.
Yeah, well, he says it way meaner than that.
He calls him a retard. Yeah.
Yeah, that 2/3 of a retard is what he calls them.
That's honestly, I guess that was like probably good casting
decision forge on him because he's coming off of Mad Men mad
Mad Men as a I think Don Draper is his name in that show and he
is just like a douchebag. So it kind of and he's like a
little bit of AI think he's a little bit of a ladies man.
Womanizer. Yeah, he's a womanizer.
And so like, whenever he, because he does his fucking
whenever he like, tells Blake Lively.
He's like, are you good at like, measuring size?
Yeah. It's like what?
What the creepy? Yeah, what?
How long is this? You think she's like, first of
all, so he says how long is this?
She's like, I think it's bigger than 6 inches.
And she's like, yeah, he's like wrong or no shorter.
She's like, no wrong, 6 1/2 inches.
I know everything there is to know about money.
He's like, I even know how thick it is.
Yes, exactly. Going from length to thickness.
Yeah, length to girth. Calm down creepo.
Yeah, a little too horny here.
And granted, she was. She was into it, yeah.
I mean, she's like. Fucked up on oxy she's like.
She says you got to to to get the Bunny.
You got to chase the tail. My mother taught me that.
All right, You're a mom. Shut up.
Charlestown. Charlestown.
Yeah, but no, I don't think Doug kills any cops.
Batman doesn't kill cops. Yeah, so we can't have Ben
Affleck out here. Yeah, he only kills after he
told Claire. I haven't killed anybody.
I've never lied to you. So that way she won't ask again.
And now she always think he never killed anybody.
Yeah. Hey, someone fucked you up.
Come here. Love that.
It's good. It's really good.
Oh, you know what? I do kind of have a problem with
them. What I don't like that Doug has
sex with Krista. I'm not in the.
Beginning This is in the beginning.
I don't like that it ever happens.
There have been lovers for their whole life.
I just don't like it because he's been sober.
We don't know like how long he's been sober for that.
I don't think it's ever mentioned like how long he's
been doing the whole sober thing.
But I'm just thinking like, God, if he's like sober, kind of
stone cold, little stoic, always calculated, kind of like what we
were saying. He's Batman pretty much in this
movie. Like don't be having sex with
the fucked up oxy coked out hammered, you know, right, Let's
practice some self-control. Like, everything else that he
does in this movie is like under like kind of self-control.
That show just changed though his character arc.
He's still the same guy at the beginning.
He's trying to fight it, but he still has that.
He still falls back on it. So then you watch him at the end
kick the mother and daughter out of his house.
I guess you're right. I guess you're right.
It's just like we only get that little snippet of him, like kind
of having a thing for I. Didn't even like it really.
He doesn't. No, he's going to get the.
Fuck out of here. Yeah, so I don't know, I just, I
would have been OK to see him being like get the fuck out of.
Here he's at the bar. He wants to get a little piece,
piece of ass at the bar. I just know his old girl and
then it makes her bounce and he's like, I'm never doing that
again. Post nut clarity goes insane in
this movie if you think about it.
After that, he decides to change his life.
I'm doing. I'm doing two more robberies and
then I'm for real out of here. I yeah, I just, I would have
been OK with that because it's like, in reality, if you've been
hooking up with this chick and also your best friend, who is
her brother is right there and he's just done nine years for
you because he murdered a guy. That was about to kill you.
Yeah, and it's just like, dude, like she's fucked up on oxy,
she's hammered. So like she's in this, you know,
the projects try to smell the best.
I know. I wouldn't do it.
You would. I wouldn't do it.
That's such a cat. I wouldn't do it if I was just
stone cold sober just drinking tonic water, tonic sodas like at
the bar with my boys and like which already like this gets
sold so. Quick, you're falling in that
trap, bro. I'm not falling in that trap.
You're not like, no way, not stone cold sober.
I'd be like, gross, I'm out of here.
I can't do this. This is EW EW, don't touch me.
Now when Blake Lively has her bra sticking out of her little
skimpy dress. I'm telling you no, I'm telling
you that's the kind of guy I am. That's the kind of guy I am.
I'm telling you bro, the kind of guy you are, you're falling into
the trap. No, not.
Right back in. Just when you thought you could
get pulled out, she'll pull you right back in.
All right, I just, yeah, I, I wish he wouldn't have hooked up
with her. But I guess it, it does make for
a funnier scene when she walks into the hotel as they're like
about to go on the big final job.
She's like, I'm going with you. I'll be whoever you want me to
be. He's like, that's not my fucking
kid, get the fuck out of here. And then he straight up picks
the baby up. He's like, OK, it's OK, go look
for your dad. And then he just puts the baby
on the floor and he's like, now you get.
Out, yeah. I like that.
That's kind of that's a little, that's a little baller.
Poor little girl. Poor little girl.
Yeah, it's a messed up situation, but it's not his
problem. And he's got enough problems.
He's trying to outsmart the FBI and also walk away with like
$3,000,000. Yeah.
And he's got a dude saying I'm going to chop, I'm going to clip
your nuts. Yeah, like this dude just this
is the last thing he wants or needs, right?
Now he ain't trying to be no baby daddy.
Yeah, Hell no. Yeah, so that's it.
You know the town. Classic.
Classic it is. Yeah.
Yeah, it's it's a good movie. Yes, they've been Affleck's
career. Saved his career.
Right now I kind of want to just go on like a Ben Affleck tour
because, you know, I've never seen, I've never seen Argo.
I haven't either actually. I think he won an Oscar for that
one, but who cares about the? Oscars bunch of fake bullshit.
Cares about the Oscars. We make that loud and clear any
chance we get. But I'm still curious because I
think like, so he did the Town, Gone Girl and then Argos.
So that's like boom, boom, boom. Like all right, Ben Affleck's
here to stay. So like I need to, I need to
check out Argo. That's like my final one I need
to see for the Ben Affleck comeback story.
Yeah, because that, yeah, I mean did this town then then Argos is
next and then won an award. Well.
When did Gone Girl come out? That was like 2014 or something.
Did he direct Gone Girl? No, that was David Fincher.
OK. Yeah, this is based on a book.
He said the extended cut's more true to the book.
Also, we didn't mention this, but there's a deleted scene in
this movie where Dougie gets killed.
He doesn't make it to Florida. The guys he beat up that hurled
the bottles at Claire, he's like walking out with the money.
He's leaving. And they like, they like get in
front of him and they start pressing him and they're like
saying some shit. And they're like his two other
buddies, like fucking kill him, get artist over with, kill him.
He's like, I got this, I got this.
And he says, where's your fucking ski mask?
And Dougie knows it's over. He's like, how's your fucking
leg? And then they kill him.
Damn, so. Like he knows he's about to get
killed so he just gives him one last.
So yeah, so I guess in that elated scene, they'd be able to
put together that it was probably Doug that was in the
other ski mask because Jim shows his face.
Yeah, so they're like, Oh, well, we know.
Yeah, we know who you live with and you know, and Doug, he's
just always beating the shit out of.
Guys, which I believe the ending of the book is also the kind of
how they're saying it's like he dies at the end of the book.
Where's the shit at? It's gone.
And do it, man. Fuck.
Fuck them up. Just take it easy, all right?
Matalo, bottle, bottle. Do it.
Do it, man. What's happening?
Where's your hockey mask now at, motherfucker?
How's your leg? It's pretty good.
Yeah, you just know it's coming. So yeah, I might as well get one
more shot in, yeah. All right, Yeah, I like it.
He just dies. I was dreaming of Florida.
RIP. Right, but not really.
Nope. They changed it.
Yeah. Like the audience are like,
wait, he doesn't get away with it.
But they made the obviously the ending we have now because the
audience don't like it whenever the main character dies in the
end, especially back in this day when you like him so much.
Also, he did, he did a good thing.
Like that's not karma coming back to bite him.
I mean, it is, but in the he's doing something nice for Claire.
He's beating up some pieces of shit.
Yeah, so. The pieces of shit's getting one
over on him at the end and winning.
Kind of like what? That sucks.
Yeah, I guess that's true. On one hand, it's like, all
right, It doesn't doesn't necessarily benefit Claire, but
it does. Like, he does that and it sends
a message like, don't pick on strangers, you know, if they're
not townies, like don't be. Fucking with them, yeah, yeah.
So it's it's he's doing the right thing.
He shouldn't shouldn't be punished for it.
Yeah, agreed. All right, you ready to rate the
town? Let's do it, All right, What you
got for the town? All right.
For the Town acting, I've got a 10 out of 10.
Nice. I think everybody brings it.
There's a pretty, pretty stacked cast, all things considered, but
I'm just like more pleasantly surprised.
Like Ben Affleck obviously brings it and he took the
accents very serious and I think he got everybody on board with
that to where in Boston accent. Look, I've, I've said it before,
Boston accent is like my favorite one to hear you just
sounds so good in a movie, but it also just can sound kind of
funny. So you don't want to.
And this is like, obviously it's a very serious movie.
What we're what we're seeing here.
So if you overdo it, I think almost too much, it can come
across the wrong way. But it does not Take Me Out.
And like I'm, I'm mainly thinking of like Jeremy, is it
Jeremy Renner or Jeremy Reiner Renner Renner.
Renner or 1 N something like that.
OK, Jeremy Renner and Blake Lively, who I don't think
typically doing accents like that, or at least, you know, I
I'm actually not that familiar with their work like that, so I
can't really say anything. But their accents in this movie
are good. I was kind of clowning on Blake
Lively a little bit, mainly clowning on her character.
Her character is annoying, kind of how we were doing with the
Place Beyond the Pines. The acting is great.
It's just the character, they're like, God, this character sucks.
That's how it's supposed to be. So I think acting 10 out of 10,
Jon Hamm, he even slips in a little Boston accent at some
point in this movie, just making fun of them because he's, you
know, he's an outsider. But the acting is great.
Writing is 8 out of 10. I think it's just, oh, very well
written. It's a very exceptional,
exceptionally written movie. Yeah.
I don't, I don't have any real complaints.
Editing is 7 out of 10. Like I said, I I am a little
that I'm a little annoyed with kind of.
We should, I want to show you that.
I'm sure we could pull it up, but just whenever Jeremy,
whenever Jim looks at Doug and just the angle that they show
him looking at Doug, it is very clear that Claire would have
like a Clearview. Yeah, I'll put it at the tattoo.
We'll. Put it we'll pop it up on
screen. Yeah, other than that, I feel
bad for making a 7 out of 10 because the car chase scenes are
sick, the shootout scenes, brilliant.
Like they're all, it's all really good.
But just like that I'm like, come on, how do you mess that
up? That's like a very important
scene. Cinematography 9 out of 10.
I think I've talked about it before on like other Boston
movies. I just love filming in Boston
and they throw in a nice, you know, they they throw in the
baseball stadium in there. Yep.
How can you not be romantic about baseball?
Yep. So I just think it it looks
great cinematography wise. 9 out of 10 Enjoyability 9 out of 10.
I had no problems watching this movie back-to-back.
I watched this last night and then we just watched it again
before we did this episode and I was just as into it as I was
last night. So I, I, I love this movie.
The Town 8.6 out of 10 for me. Nice, I have acting 9.5 out of
10, solid all around writing 8.5 out of 10 solid, fun,
intertwined intertwined story. It's good.
Editing 8 out of 10. Cinematography 7 out of 10.
Thinks it's just solid standard cinematography.
Nothing too insane, but it is pretty.
Because Boston's cool. Especially like the rundown.
Like, you know, just like that old Boston Southie.
No, Boston just looks good. And then enjoyability 9.5 out of
10, for a total of 8.5 out of 10 for the town.
Damn good movie, damn good movie.
Ben Affleck's good. Ben Affleck's good.
I'm a big fan of his. Yep all.
Right. You got anything else to add for
the town before we wrap it up? I got, I got nothing.
I got nothing, Kaden. All right, thank you, guys.
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