Guys, we have a big announcement this summer.
We are producing our very own comedy TV show, but we need your
help. An up and coming streaming
service has invited us to be one of the first creators to join
their mission and building this creator LED platform.
It's called show Stack. It's still in the early stages
of development, but it's paving the way and allowing creators to
own their own material and create their own stories without
anybody standing in their way. And where we need your help is
being one of the first creators on the platform.
We are competing in a competition through Show Stack
that will first get us pilot funding for our first episode,
and secondly, at the very end, we have a chance to win full
funding for our first season of the show.
Our show is called Crown. It follows A fictional version
of Gray and myself in a world where podcasters are rock stars.
We're both chasing superstardom, doing absurd things to get rich
and famous, but we oftentimes sabotage ourselves through our
bad decisions, our egos, and meeting and interacting with the
wild personalities of this podcast.
Boom. Think like Detroit readers and
workaholics. So if you're a fan of us or want
to support us on this journey, all you have to do is go to
showstack.tv, create an account, subscribe for only $1.99 and go
and vote for us Crown. And the best part is, if you
subscribe now, that dollar 99 subscription fee is locked in
for life. It's a way of Show Stack
supporting all the early subscribers.
Voting for us gives us an edge in the competition and is a huge
way to help us get that full season funding.
So go join Show Stack, go vote for us and continue to stay
tuned as we drop more and more teasers of our show leading up
to its release. Thank y'all.
And now let's get into the episode.
What's up everybody, Welcome back to the Crown Cinema
podcast. In this episode, we are breaking
down. And literally just watched
Remember the Titans. I can't believe you have never
seen this movie. This is Grey's first time ever
watching Remember the Titans? The classic.
It's hilarious, Yeah. Just let that unfold on the
Saving Private Ryan episode. You're like, OK, well, that just
changed everything that we had planned, so now we're doing it.
What's funny because now you probably have some clarity into
what went on in like football locker rooms in high school and
middle school, all the chance that all the little things, you
think everything came from the Smith.
Everything like. All the songs.
Come on. Is it really?
What? Is it that big of a cultural
phenomenon? Are you really going to tell me
that this movie did all of that? Well, you know, like the I'm
talking about like singing. Na na na na.
Yep, that goodbye. That did not.
There's no way that came from this movie.
Where else did it come from? I don't know.
I feel like I had they made that up.
No, I think it was a song, but they like all singing it
together, made that a thing in football.
Why do you why do you only do it in football?
You don't do it in basketball locker rooms.
I. Don't know, I feel like.
Maybe. Maybe you do it after games.
Yeah, after a game, like if you beat A-Team student section says
na na, na, na, hey, hey, hey, goodbye, remember.
The Titans. Around look, it's maybe it's a
big, it's a big movie. I get it.
I didn't realize it was that popular.
It's not even Texas foot ain't no Mountain High enough.
That's definitely this movie. Maybe.
I mean, I think the song itself might have had something to do
with that. No, but they're.
You singing in locker rooms or whatever?
With your boys, I didn't play football in high school, so I
don't know, were they just singing like this all the.
Time middle school does. This pee wee football.
Kissing in the locker room. Yeah, dude, I guess that just
comes from this movie. I this was damn near a musical.
They were singing like they got. Soul power.
Yeah, The whole time they were singing in this movie, yeah, I
couldn't like a lot. They were singing a lot.
They were dancing a lot. Music brings humanity together.
I mean, yeah, like, I, I love singing.
I love dancing, right? So.
What are your first thoughts on Remember the Titans?
First ever watch. I mean, I'll give you this.
I needed this. I needed this.
You left me. You've been gone for like a week
pretty much. And in that time I watched Ex
Machina, I watched Heretic, I watched the killing of a Sacred
Deer, I watched like some Black Mirror episodes as well.
And then you get back from Mexico and I'm like, oh, this
would be we could probably watch something nice.
And you're like, let's let's watch Saving Private Ryan.
So my brain is just been fry. I mean, dude, like after I
watched Heretic, I like damn near got a therapist.
It was like, I'm losing my mind and everything's just wrong.
So this was nice that you were. It was just like, yeah, dude,
let me get Denzel Washington for a whole movie.
Just coaching people up like that's what I need.
You get Denzel in any role just leading men.
She's really nice. And it's going to be the best
thing you will ever watch. It's just comforting.
I mean, he takes over the screen, he takes over pretty
much every scene and just like a like I got this way.
And so it's just really nice to, like, watch him do that.
And it's also, you know, like, I just love watching Denzel beat
Denzel. And so whenever you find a
perfect role for Denzel, like a coach for a state championship
football team, it's like, yeah, dude, this is awesome.
This is a great movie. It's a fun movie.
It's like one of the cheesiest movies I've ever seen.
No. Why?
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
It's a, you know, it's corny. It's corny.
No, it's it's supposed to be it's APG feel good movie more
when they there's. I'm not saying there's anything
wrong with those movies. Yeah, just saying let's call it
what it is. Yeah.
Definitely a family movie. Yeah, Jerry Bruckheimer produced
it, and the original script for it had a lot more vulgar
language, as you might imagine. Wow.
But Disney was like, hey, let's tone this back and make this a
family movie. Maybe.
So that's why it's, you know, there's no cuss words in it.
There's no racial slurs, no N words getting thrown Willy
nilly. Yeah, let's make racism seem a
little bit more uplifting. I get it, Disney.
I see what you're doing. Let's also go make some money
off of it. A little capitalization.
Yeah. I mean, I said that wrong.
Wrong word. Capitalism.
That what you're trying to say? Yeah.
I'm like, yeah, not smart, yeah, but I respect it.
I couldn't believe how racist it was.
Insanely racist. I'll give I'll give Disney that.
I mean, they also didn't play around with it.
No, they, they definitely show you they should like even kind
of, I'm kind of messing this part up, but like even in a fun
way, they do show you like how messed up it was, dude.
It's it was fun. Funny now just seeing how insane
people talked you're like what? How do you even think this way?
Like how is this even possible? That's yeah, really the thinking
part that gets me. Like just.
Even like the. Girlfriend.
Yes, that's exactly what I. Like at the end of the movie
when she like, finally kind of goes back to Jerry and she's
like, hey, you know, I want to Gary.
Sorry. You're right.
Yeah. Go back to she goes back to Gary
and say, hey, I'm going to start trying.
You know, it's going to be really hard for me, but I'm
going to try. It's going to be hard for you to
what? Be nice to another guy.
That's a different color. Yeah.
The music, like, kind of sets in.
This is a very, like, nice moment.
She's like, it can be hard for me, Gary, but I sure will try.
But then like, just the also, you know, before that when Gary
tries to introduce his boy to her, what's Ah, damn.
What's his name? Julian.
Julian, thank you. It's a football movie.
There's a lot of characters. Anyways, Julian, like, goes to
shake her hand and she just walks away.
Yeah, It's one of those things where it's like, OK, this could
be that could be just like the movie.
Julius. Julius, thank you.
Wood Harris is a beast actor. Anyways, it's one of those
things like scenes like that where it's like, OK, that could
be a dramatization of what's happening at this time, or that
could be pretty realistic. Probably pretty realistic.
It could be pretty realistic. I mean, it's the first time the
school has ever crossed races to play football, yeah.
I let me tell you this, I didn't even like, I didn't know what
Remember the Titans was about. I did not know what the movie
was about. OK, I've seen the only scene
that I've seen from this is Denzel Washington, The Who you
who's your daddy scene. Yeah.
Who's your daddy, Guy? You.
But I didn't know that was remembered the Titans.
I just knew that was a Denzel Washington movie.
Yeah. So yeah, dude, I was a little,
there's a little like initial shock.
Whenever the movie first came on.
I was like, whoa, what the fuck? I love coach Boone's just even
though he is discriminated against, nobody wants to be the
coach. He doesn't stand down to
anybody. He's like, I am the boss, even
if, even if non you like it or even all the white players don't
even respect me, you're going to respect me.
I'm going to force you to respect me because I am your
coach. I'm the head coach, I'm the
boss, I'm your daddy. When you're on the field, I'm
your daddy. So like, he's just unapologetic
in his leadership. Which is why Denzel Washington's
perfect for that role because you need just like the the
perfect amount of charisma, Yep, and just confidence.
Yep, all that and delivery of just the greatest speeches.
The whole entire movie. Just Denzel Washington going
off. Well, it's like, OK, yes, but it
is funny to watch like pretty much the whole beginning of the
movie. Like I would say more than half
of it. Like from the beginning to like
more than half of it. It's just Denzel banger of a
monologue after a banger of a monologue, like literally
back-to-back, like literally back-to-back scenes.
Like Denzel will deliver a monologue.
The next scene is just him delivering another monologue.
And then like kind of towards the end of the movie, I noticed
that. Like, I think somebody probably
started noticing that on set they were like, dude, it's just
Denzel. Which, by the way, not a bad way
to go. Nope.
But like for character development, like you start
noticing that other people, other characters like start
getting the stage as well. Well, it's kind of nice because
it's kind of they do it in a dramatic way because Denzel's a
dictator. He says this is a dictatorship
and he has a big ego and he has pride with what he does because,
you know, he's been discriminated against his whole
life. He's a simple, he's in the civil
rights movement doing things. He said he'd walk with Martin
Luther King junior. And so, you know, he has like a
chip on his shoulder because he feels like he has to in order
to, you know, overcome all the discrimination against him.
So you see that pride that kind of leaks out to the coaching
staff and even the players where he's like too much of A leader
because he just feels like he has to be.
But as he starts to kind of get close with Coach Yost, yeah, you
know, then he starts to allow him to be a coach.
Like at the very end, he puts his pride down and let's Coach
Yates call the play or tells him what to do.
And he's like, you're right. Because before that he's like
you worry about the defense. I got the offense.
He's like you if you fucking the defense, I'm taking over the
defense. You know, so he has that so much
pride over the team. But he still, just to break
down, we're saying, allows the other characters to kind of step
in or the other coaches, I mean, to step in and start to leave
the team in their own way. Yeah, it's, it's cool 'cause it
kind of just that little leakage spread, like that's a good way
of putting it, 'cause really the first person I feel like that
actually kind of gives that confidence is Ethan Supley's
character, Lastic, Louis Lastic. Yeah, yeah.
Like whenever they're just eating at lunch and then he has
Louis come over and like, all right, tell me a fact about one
of your black teammates. He knows everybody.
Man, he starts spinning and dancing again, turns into a
musical, and I was just like, wow.
But then Coach Yost, who you like for me, I'm watching.
I was like, fuck, I don't know if I'm supposed to root for him
or not. Yeah, he seems like a good guy,
but he's definitely like playing into the white man a little bit
here. But then he gives the he gives
that speech to his defence, like I think it's the regional
championship, something like that.
And he's like, don't let him get one more yard or I will bench
all of you. Big speech, big delivery.
Great. Yep.
Now, by the time Denzel showing back on the screen, I kind of
forgot it was a Denzel Washington movie.
Next he took over. He pulled out that coach Boone,
which again, they both learn from each other.
He was too soft in the players early on.
You know, PD, he's like, let him kind of just he's being like a
soft supporter, even though you should be.
But at times with the players, you got to be a little tough on
him because again, which Coach Boone is saying, when these
black guys go off in the real world, they're going to face a
lot of adversity. And there's a lot of racism
still today. Like it's super present right
now. And so you have to you have to
kind of make them tough, but you also got to be the nice guy too
with them because they're still just young men.
They're all 17 years old, eighteen.
I think PD 17. He's going to be a senior next
year in the movie. So, you know, but then he learns
from Coach Boone just, you know, kind of knows when he has to be
the dog coach. You got to like put it on for
him and push him. Now it's cool.
It's cool because I I was also one of those things was like, I
was getting a little concerned that like, Coach Boone was just
going to be a perfect human the whole movie and he was going to
be right in every scenario. And I was like, oh, no, like,
OK, I see what? I see what they're doing, but
like, he's not, you know, he's still just a man.
He makes mistakes. He says the wrong things, you
know, just like the rest of them.
So whenever Coach Yost is like kind of call him out on his
bullshit, he's like, I think you're too loud, think you're
too too prideful. You know, I think you're showing
off a little bit. And then, you know, Coach Boone
has a good retort to that. But like, that's just because
Denzel Washington's character, like, is quick on his feet and
he's good. He's charismatic.
So he's like, oh, yeah, like, shut up.
Kojo's racist. But it's like, no, if you really
like, no, he does need to tone it back a little bit.
And then but then that comes into fruition at the end
whenever they do team up and they like, kind of hold each
other accountable. And it's like, OK, that's nice.
Like, that's a, that's a genuine good lesson, like not picking
sides. Because let's be honest, dude,
when you do a movie like this, like you, the audience will
always know if you're picking a side or not.
And you just don't want to do that, right?
Not my opinion, yeah. Let the audience decide the side
show the spectrum of it and, well, it's.
Like, it's just one of those things where it's like, OK,
clearly racist white people trying to damage and kill black
folks. That's wrong, right?
That's wrong. But like, just for the sake of
like keeping characters honest, you can't just have black people
be correct in everything that they do.
For the whole move, they're all still humans.
They're all still humans. So once you like, break that
down and like, actually let the audience understand that, like,
that's what it should be. That's like, you know, real
growth in society. It makes for a really good
movie, you know, And it, you know, it's not, it's just not
bad delivery whenever you do something like that.
And so they, I think they nailed it with that.
Yeah, they also nail it with the drama of the football games
because they're an undefeated team.
They're going to win the state championship.
And so they're, you know, really good because they're have the
strong brotherhood. But in order to create some
conflict within the games, it's like Coach Boone has to win
every single game or else he's going to get fired immediately
because, again, the board was racist.
They just did it as like a little check mark box and then
they want to get Coach Ghost back in the head coaching spot
and get him to move out of the town.
So but they don't realize Coach Boone is actually a legitimate
coach, like the best there is with this team.
And then later in the movie, Coach Ghost, you know, he's has
to choose. Is he going to sacrifice his
Hall of Fame that he's going to get that he's been working his
entire career to achieve or is he going to help the team win?
So that adds some conflict, like is he going to do it or is he
not going to do it? So you have that little
underlying conflict of the drama of the story.
What's the scandal? I missed that part.
What? The when he like tells the ref
he's like I'll go to the press and I'll take y'all down.
I don't care if I go down to what.
He's just saying like, I don't care if my career, my reputation
gets destroyed by doing this because you are cheating, very
clearly cheating. So I'll take it to, you know,
whatever. Board so but like it's a dress
that he knows about it. Well, yeah, so he's.
Supposed to throw the game. Yeah, he want.
He's supposed to throw the game. The refs are on his side, and
then he knows it, too. Yeah.
And then once they lose, he goes to head coach.
Now he's in the Hall of Fame. So he's like, I don't give a
shit about the Hall of Fame right now.
Don't let don't let these boys down.
I ain't letting these boys down. You know how hard it is to have
a perfect season in Virginia football, which, by the way,
come on, dude. Just.
It's tough for me. Why?
Because we grew up around Texas football.
Yeah. And like the whole world knows
that Texas high school football is the real deal.
Texas, I think even. What are the big ones?
California. California.
Football California, Texas and Florida.
Biggest football states. Like, come on, Virginia
football. Texas, California, Florida look
at you are universally considered the top football
states dominating in high school talent production, NFL players
and college success. These big here are consistently
followed by Georgia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Alabama for the
deeper the football culture and high level talent development.
Guess what? Virginia ain't in here, but it's
a true story. It's a true story.
It just, I mean, I did get kind of a good chuckle about like,
you know, at the end of the movie where it's like saying
like Coach Boone went on to coach for five more years and
then he retired. Coach Yost followed him for four
years and then he retired in 1990.
You know, just gives you like the classic 2000s, Like this is
what everybody did after high school.
None of them went to the NFL. You know what if this movie
happens in Texas, you go, you have a perfect season and win
the state championship in Texas. Let's say 6A football, dude, you
got like six NFL players on that those.
Are basically NFL games not even in the 70's.
The biggest states where Oklahoma, Alabama, Nebraska,
Ohio and still Texas. Texas baby.
Oklahoma on top though in the 70s.
Yeah. OK.
Wait, this is saying college teams like Oklahoma like the
Sooners? Wow.
I said states. Google AI.
That's good. I think it's always just going
to assume college. Just look at biggest high school
football states. Yeah, yeah.
Texas, California, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida and
still know Virginia. I'm trying to get you in there.
Virginia. This shit meant some to
somebody. I mean, hey, we remember the
Titans. Don't know if it has anything to
do with that season specifically or maybe this movie that's also
just coming from 2 dudes that just watch a movie.
So they might try and bite our heads off right now but don't.
I'm just watching the movie. My first time seeing this movie.
Just calling it like I see it. This episode is sponsored by
Lock Lab, the hair growth supplement that's taken me from
this to this. It's been a complete game
changer for me. I mean, it's undeniable.
Lock Labs a great product. It's worked incredibly well for
Gray, so much so that since he's gotten hair, he's become a
different person. Every time I take a shower and
my conditioner is empty, it's Gray.
He says he needs it. Gray has his own bathroom,
despite it being extremely affordable.
He can't even pay rent on time. Try next month pal.
And what about all this stuff? How'd you pay for that?
Look, these are my essentials. This is what it takes to manage
all of this. You don't even have them, which
here, please take, take that energy somewhere else.
I'm kind of in the middle of something.
If only Lock Lab didn't produce amazing results.
I'm going to use your. Shower water, don't use my
conditioner. Right, I said don't use my
conditioner. What?
You don't need that much conditioner water coming out of
the shower. That is not the shower.
Go to lock lab 1 pill a day. That's 97% effective in stopping
hair loss. If you want your main back go to
locklab.co. I did look at me.
So on the Saving Private Ryan episode and I, we were just like
mentioning Remember the Titans and you said you hadn't seen it.
I was saying there's a funny scene in the movie and it was
obviously them kiss in the locker room.
Yeah, Sunshine, fruit cake, whatever that dude's name was.
I mean, just in and out. I mean, I guess the rest of the
movie they're kind of like they're like, yay.
And then he does go up to what's the linebacker's name, the one
that's paralyzed. Bertier, Jerry.
Gary. Gary.
Gary, not Jerry. He goes up to Gary's like, we
good. Gary's like keep your fucking
voice. Shut up, shut up.
You think they're mean to black people?
You have no idea what they do to a gay man around here.
They're pretty nice to him though.
He had a being gay. You're kind of heading to the
whole movie. I think, yeah, it's to say, by
the way, we're going to throw that in there, like, while
you're also not being racist, let's also not be homophobic.
Either I'm trying to think like, what's the point of that scene?
And I think it's just because Sunshine was called a fruitcake
by Gary Bertier, correct? And so he just is.
Like you call me a fruitcake. Fine, I'll kiss you.
Yeah, he's from California. Like.
He's well, and he's also like, I don't know, he's kind of a a
hippie ish character from California.
He wears A choker. He wears A choker.
He's literally he's doing yoga on the and you know, on the
school front lawn for all the girls to watch.
This is one of those things where, like, you know, if you're
an old country boy, you're like, what the fuck?
They're just stereotyping the hell out of a gay man.
He's doing yoga out in the yard. Exactly in.
Between class, it's really, yeah, it's Disney that's, you
know, making a bad rap for him. But no, like it.
I'm just thinking like, I don't know, like if you're from
California, like that's just kind of a stereotype is like,
sure, you know, you could be straight.
I mean that's what PD says. He's the girls like he's from
California. Sunshine is from California,
yeah. Yeah, you understand what I'm
saying. He's from California.
The stereotype is like, yeah, you could be a straight man from
California, but you're still a little guy.
You. Kiss a couple guys in the locker
room. Exactly.
And it's just not a big deal. It's not a big deal.
You know what? Fuck it.
I get it, Nobody, nobody discriminated on against him on
the team. Exactly.
Everybody was cool with it because he could sling a
fucking. Yeah, he could.
Yeah, he could sling the rock. Favorite moment from this movie
is when Sunshine comes into the game.
He's like, hey, let him through. Like what?
It's like, let him through. It's like, all right.
It's like trust me, it's the ball.
Throws it off clean ducks, Bob pops that motherfucker.
They're like, hey, rough, you know, roughing, whatever that,
what's that? Rough in the passer.
No. Or oh, just unnecessary.
Roughness. Unnecessary roughness.
Yeah. And he's like on the
quarterback. Seriously, coach.
Yeah. Great moment.
That's. Sticking it to that fucker.
That's awesome because that was also my favorite moment.
Great, so good. Fun fact, the guy that played
sunshine, he was a Yale quarterback he played for.
The actor. Yeah, his name is A.
See. That's good.
That's kid. Hardy, Yeah, he's a yeah.
This guy, he's. Like, dude, there's so many.
There's so many like TV shows and movies that just messed that
up so bad. When you do an athletic movie,
you have to get actors that are athletic.
That's what I love about this movie, that it's a sports movie.
And again, like you're just saying there's a lot of sports
movies of the sports look like dog shit.
It's bad and it it honestly it takes you out of.
It it does it being like me and you both played sports growing
up and so like we know what an athletic man looks like or a
good player looks like. And so when these guys are
playing a star football player, basketball player, basketball is
the worst most of. Basketball is bad.
It because, yeah, like a basketball shot so technical and
so like when you see a guy fucking doing a shit shot,
you're like that guy's trash. I'll be the first to say I got a
really funky basketball shot. So like, I could not play a
basketball role if I were an actor because I just can't.
I have a weird looking shot. I got a pretty shot.
So I can't. Yeah, you got a pretty, you got
a good shot. Don't go in that often, but
looks good. Mine goes in.
Yeah, you do. You'd be draining them.
But it looks bad. But so what's great about this
movie is that the football looks great.
They are like the, again, casting an actor that was a
quarterback at Yale who can actually throw the football as a
good form. It looks good.
It's not as some shitty throw. And then you see the hits like
they have probably stuntman and they're just getting drilled and
tackling each other for real. Yeah.
So it's like it looks like real football, which is a great thing
to have in a football movie. You expect that It doesn't take
you out of it. No game looks bad.
It all looks like legitimate football.
Which is awesome. All just to kind of go on top of
this. I would have been fine if I
remember the Titans was like 6 hours long if they had just kept
doing what they had kept doing. Which is literally just like
montages of nasty ass football hits and good play calling mixed
in with like great monologues from a lot of Denzel Washington.
But like coaches and players. Yeah dude, I could have watched
this. Could have been like a 12 hour
movie and I could have just like I was just watching.
I was like, dude, I really hope we're not close to this being
over like I was. I was sad, but like I just I
love a good sports movie like that.
Be aware of what you're doing. Let's understand what we're
doing here, OK? We're telling a cool story about
a great football team and we nailed Denzel Washington.
We got him on the cast. Now let's make this just
fucking. Cool.
The only bad athletic moment in the movie is at the at the end.
I think it's the state championship whenever Julius
gets that fumble. That fumble tackle.
Oh. His run up, he has like his arms
down. It's like a weird looking run.
That's the only moment where I'm kind of.
Like, no, there was another one before that.
Oh, wait, no, no, no, that is the one.
Yeah, yes. He comes up from behind him.
Yeah, they're both running weird.
That's the only part. That's the only part that I'm a.
Little bit. Off, First off, that should have
been a slow MO shot. They should have cut the music
slow MO. Did you just see them like
running as fast as possible and then like he just slowly comes,
gets fumble because they just put him in the game.
They just put him in the game. He hadn't been in the whole time
They put him in, he goes and forces a fumble.
That should be the slow MO shot. Because then they get Julius has
been in the game, he's the starting defensive end.
Then I'm not talking about Julius, I'm talking about PDPD.
OK, I'm talking about when Julius runs up and gets that PD
does in the beginning. This is at the end.
I think I even said something in that scene.
I was like, oh God, why are they running like that?
The one I'm talking about is it's right before they get the
off the offense and do the trick, right before they get on
offense and do that trick play. It's Julius I take makes that
tackle. OK, yeah, so I'm just getting
the players messed up, but it should have been slow MO.
But like, I know what you're talking about.
They both looked weird. Running like straight arm
running. Yeah, which is crazy because
that actor, Wood Harris, he is one of those like, athletic
actors. What else you been in?
Well, like you see him hooping in The Wire.
Ever seen that show? I never watched it.
There's like a there is one meme.
Where and Above the Rim, another athlete movie.
Yeah, he's also Creed. I think he's in juice.
Yeah, he's the coach. Yeah.
Creed That's right, that's what
I was thinking. 1 battle after another.
He was in one battle after another.
I think you, I don't know who he wasn't that He's got to be a
plain old man, obviously. Certain thing.
Winning time. There's this one movie that I.
Shooting stars. He's in a lot of sports movies,
yeah. So yeah, he's athletic.
Was he in the movie? Not Juice?
Hold on, hold on. Oh oh.
Paid in full. OK.
Yeah, I like that movie a lot when I was when I was a little
kid. But he was good in that.
But no, in the The Wire, there's a picture often associated with
John Morant. But like, you know, in The Wire,
Wood Harris plays like a he's a gangster, like they're playing
pick up basketball. Do do do.
Do no, he just like pulls his jersey up and he has a clock
while he's playing just like tucked in.
So any anytime like John Moran is slighted or something, John
Moran watches. One episode of the Wire and was
like I am. That's going to be what I do.
Yep, Except I'm going to do it NBA style.
And I'm going to shoot the crowd.
Yeah, now we got John Moranto and grenades he.
Bazooka. He's got the bazooka, he had the
RPGI. Kind of like stop doing that and
he's like, I'm going to keep getting bigger and bigger
weapons. Yeah, like, I'm just going to,
like, keep getting more people. Yeah.
But yeah, so he does have that mean for him.
But he's an athletic dude. So that scene is just surprising
because it's like, why did they make him run like that?
You. Could have been the pads or
uncomfortable or whatever, you know?
I guess I. Guess old school football pads
are probably pretty bulky, and actually they're probably not,
right? I had to get bigger and the
helmets get bigger as I realize how dangerous football is.
I just, I don't, I'd be surprised if he actually like
ran like that. But Speaking of people that look
like they just didn't really belong in this movie, Ryan
Gosling, what is he doing in this movie?
He's a little fun, fun personality.
He's. That's about it.
Yeah, like. He sucks on the fingers.
He sucks at football. He sucks so bad.
He's like, you got to Take Me Out of the game because I cannot
take these guys. Yeah, he's like, I didn't ride
the bench all season just to lose us the whole game, which
honestly, respect. That's a great bar.
Like I didn't just ride the bench just for you to bring me
back out and embarrass myself. Like lose us the state
championship. You're going to get me killed.
Like I'm going to be the one that forces racism to like,
actually be annihilated because they're going to team up and
kill me. It's like, Get Me Out of this
fucking game, dude. I have sucked since scene 1.
Which scene 1 of Ryan Gosling? He's not even in a football
jersey. I didn't even believe he was on
the team. I thought it was gonna be like,
we like Ryan Gosling. He's not athletic enough, but we
could probably find him a role as like the cool manager, like
football team like. Caleb Presley, when he played, I
forget where he played, but he was like a D1 quarterback but
super backup quarterback. And he eventually just became
like the morale officer. He was so cool that they made a
position. For him, yeah, on the coaching
staff. Yeah, I forget what the made-up
position was, but it's it. Was like morale something or?
Coach of morale could be that, let's see, but he was literally
so funny but also new enough about football to where they're
like, dude, we want to keep you around.
I think it is coach of morale. I think that was the position
they gave him, morale booster. Supervisor.
Supervisor of morale in North Carolina.
Yeah, he's like on a big D1 team.
He's a big guy, The. Tar Heels.
Yeah. And was the supervisor of
morale. Yeah.
Self appointed. Self appointed.
He wore a headset, though. Yeah, he wasn't wearing
headsets. Yeah.
Backup quarterback and walk on. Damn, Walked on, dude.
Backup quarterback. And then he self appointed
himself as a supervisor of morale.
He could ball, but he was funny. Yeah.
I think he did the right thing. You got an interview with Drake.
That's cool. That's cool.
But anyways, Ryan Gosling, like in this one, like there were
just so many scenes that I saw where I was like, is he even
trying? Or is he just being Ryan Gosling
on this set? Basically?
Is he just like being funny because he's like, like, I know
I'm going to have a good career. Mind you, I.
Think it was his first a movie or one of the first ones I want
to say. He's young, so I can believe.
It, but you can hear in his voice how.
Ryan is, but Ryan Gosling's like always been, I think, a star
because like, have you ever seen that dance video of him when he
was a kid? You know.
You've never seen that. Dance video as a kid.
Yeah, what? All right.
Let's see, let's go to the bottom.
Yeah, he's in a couple things. He's in some TV shows.
A lot of TV work like. Kids.
Young Hercules. I wonder who he played in that.
Look at him on the cover. OK, so he knows.
He's like his first big movie because everything else was TV
and there's ATV movie. He was in another TV movie.
Bring a sound on me. I guess that was a movie.
But he did, yeah. It's like his bigger, bigger
movie he was on. Sure, I believe it.
I believe it. I'm just saying, look, so
there's one scene that just like kind of tripped me up.
It's when they're on the bus and Ryan Gosling's characters just
offbeat. I think they're doing like.
Ain't no man. Yeah, I think so.
And he's just off. So off like he's clapping
between the claps. But Ryan Gosling, like, has
rhythm that is no. He's playing the ultra white
guy. I.
Guess so. Like, which I think is funny.
It's like if he came out, admitted he was like, yeah,
dude, I was doing that on purpose.
Like, I'm a white dude on a bus. That's like, you know, being led
by a bunch of, like, black singers.
Let's be honest. Let's call it what it is.
Black people are known for having, like, good rhythm.
Yep. And so Ryan Gosling, like, just
playing true to his role. He's like, no, like, I play bad
folk music that at one point in the movie, like, his roommate is
just like, like, this is cruelty.
What you're making me listen to does the term.
Cruel and unusual. Punishment.
Mean anything? Yeah, so I guess for Ryan
Gosling's character, Alan Bosley, Bosley Ryan is like, no,
my character would not be able to keep up with these incredible
black men. Yeah.
But I'm just saying look no, but look up Ryan Gosling dancing as
a kid. I can't believe you've never
seen this. Maybe I have but it's like.
Honestly pretty incredible. Like obviously this dude is
going to be a *. You never seen this?
No, you love Ryan Glassing. How have you never seen this?
What is this for a talent show? I yeah, I think he's from
Canada. So I think this is like a
there's. Only boy on this squad.
Damn look at him get after it. Like dude, he's owning it.
I love how his personality is the exact same.
He's the star of the show. Yeah, dude.
Oh my gosh. That's awesome.
Yeah. So he's definitely just doing
some good old acting on that bus.
But we see him. We see him whenever they're they
get their signature dance routine for their warmups.
He comes back in with a little slide with his with his hands
out. Yeah, somebody saw that.
They saw him, like, messing up the clap.
And they're like, all right, that was funny.
That was good. But you're Ryan Gosling, and
everybody knows You Can Dance. Yeah.
So we're going to get you dancing in this fucking Disney
movie, all right? And they did.
They put him front and center and you know what?
He look good. Actually, yeah, of course I can
dance La La Land. He was Ken.
They gave him like the biggest dance scene we've seen in.
Forever. My name's Ken.
Yeah, that's like. Choreographed hilarious song.
Yeah, he can dance, bro. Yeah, he can dance.
But yeah, as far as football goes, didn't really understand
how he even made the team. High school bro, Just high
school. He's a senior automatic varsity.
I know, but like they had to go through that boot camp and I
just, I don't know, like if I was that bad at something, I
wouldn't put myself through hell like.
That he still performed a little bit, like he wasn't horrible.
He could play a little bit. He was coached like there's a
little bit of skill, OK. I mean he, I mean, yes, he
wasn't that good, but he wasn't like just.
Dog shit losing. The games for him.
I know this is hard for you, me talking a little bit of shit
about your boy. Just, you know, I'm just
calling. Like I said, he sucked.
Don't talk about Ryan Gosling like that.
He. Sucked and Coach Boone should
have cut him. No, it wasn't that bad.
It was bad and there was even there was a one point when like
the first fight breaks out, you just see Ryan Gosling like kind
of put his arms up and he gets tackled.
Nice. Anyways, you know, no hate.
I think it is. I think it was mainly just Ryan
Gosling. Like having fun.
What's funny about this movie is now what's funny about it is
Shane Gillis has a hilarious sketch about the like a high
school that gets integrated with a blood with black players on
the football team. And he's super racist.
But as he realizes that the black men, the black players on
his team are incredible, they start winning games.
He completely converts to like being like an African, Like he
starts wearing an African wardrobe and the state
championship press conference. So it's hilarious that that is
kind of a true thing. Football brought together the
entire community. When whenever Coach Boone rolls
up to his house, like, are they the movers?
Like, I think they're moving in. And then you hear all the little
racist chirps of everybody walking out their window.
The next thing you know, at the end of the movie when they're
heading the state, all those racist white people are like,
Coach Boone. Yeah, let's go.
So football brought together people and ended racism in this
town. Yeah, it's nice to see there was
whenever they're talking about coach.
Coach Yost was supposed to like throw the game and then also the
refs were like on the other side of the coach that called Coach
Boone Gorilla. Monkey.
Monkey or some out of a zeal. Kind of a monkey.
One of those two they still like, even with the refs going
against them, still beat them like what, 44 to 14?
Yes, they destroyed them. There's some truth in that,
dude. There is.
There's some truth in that. I mean, just saying this is
honest. When you go play football or
basketball and you're all up to an all black team, you're like
and you're an all white team, you're like, we're fucked.
Or yeah, just like, God, I hope, I hope they're scared of us
being able to shoot the ball. Well, yeah, as we are thinking
like fuck, they're just going to full court process.
We're not even going to be able to dribble.
We're getting dunked on. Yeah, yeah, every time.
It's football. Though I don't know, I can't
really speak much for football, I've seen some white boys
fucking roll just any type of team.
It's a funny story. Then I've also seen the opposite
so. When I was in high school in my
for a high school, there was a team called Silsby that was just
dominant like every year I was in College in in high school
state championship winners and they were like kind of close to
our district. So like second or third round of
playoffs in football, we're playing Silsby.
So it's like good season boys. We all had fun.
Thank you guys. Man, we sure did make it far.
And first of all, I'm pretty sure I got a concussion plan
against Silsby like somebody quarterback through an
interception. I'm like running.
And the biggest dude in this on this field isn't #22 just
fucking levels me, dude. I have a video of it means you
can leveled might even put it in this video.
And then one of our players has like, a kick, he takes a kick
off, he starts running on the field #22 that legendary player
runs up to him, grabs a football, Yanks out of his arms,
and then takes off and scores a touchdown.
Yeah, like just white boys getting destroyed.
I've seen some plays like that. Hilarious.
I've seen some plays like that. Like no no, no player has any
faith for winning this game which is just hilarious.
Yeah, I've been running out of the gym like quite a few times.
Ran out of the gym. Yeah, like just getting Maliwa
by a team by like 70 points, like legit like 80, something
like 12. Yeah, you know. 80 to 12.
I mean, I can't remember if that's like a specific thing,
but like I remember like getting rocked because I'm from like a
small little town, East Texas, and sometimes we go hit the road
like more like close to the Dallas city area.
Game over. Yeah.
That's where the hoopers are, dude.
Yeah, game over. Those guys, those guys are going
to the NBA after that or for sure do you want?
The funniest when your coach is like because maybe it's most of
the time you press, but then when you play those really fast
teams. Let's play 2.
Three yeah, we're going to zone OK, you can't we can't play man.
You are going to get beat. You are going to get, you know,
ran by quick. So Nope, no press.
Yeah, we'll play it safe here. We're going to try to limit the
amount of points we score or that they score.
Yeah, I know it all too well. Remember the Titans?
Nothing about racism. Yeah, You know what seen I like,
I thought it was just really fun, just like from a sports
standpoint, because it does kind of go to show like Coach Boone,
like shut the fuck up. Like for Coach Boone, he at one
point get saying coach Yosir, he's like your defense better
start making some some stops, otherwise we're not going to win
this game. And then he was like, well, your
offense needs to score some points, but you don't know what
the score is. So you're like, oh, they're just
they have a conflict. Well, they're pretty far.
I think they're far in the playoffs.
Even if they're not, you go into the locker room at halftime and
it's only 70. So like Coach Yost is doing a
pretty good job if you've only held A-Team like 1 touchdown.
And so it just kind of goes to show like, you know, again,
Coach Yost, call him out on his pride and stubbornness.
You know, I, I don't know if that happened before that scene
or after, but like it was. Before.
Yeah, it was just one of those things like, dude, Coach Bone,
like you're clearly in the wrong here.
Like you haven't put up a point in the first half and your
defensive coach has held him to 1 touchdown.
That's pretty good, I guess, considering the competition they
are going against. And I guess really think about
how they just beat the shit out of like all the teams they
played. So if they were held to zero and
then held that same team to seven, that means that was
probably like the best competition they played.
Yeah, but they also have the refs against them.
I don't know if it was that game.
I don't think it was. I think that was just a fair and
square deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think the state championship was set when it was 7 and O,
that's the that's the only time we get that half time locker
room talk. We say, hey, win or lose today,
that's when we're down seven. I was like, win or lose today,
we're going to walk out holding our heads high.
We had a great season. We're going to do our best.
And then Julius is like, to be honest, coach, shut the fuck up.
Yeah, what are you talking about?
Don't be getting soft on us now. It's the stage championship.
That was nice. Yeah.
It was like some, yeah, some self-awareness there.
They were like, dude, we can't have Coach Boone just be right
all the time. Yeah, his he can't just be money
this entire movie. That's funny.
But yeah, I I like that scene a lot.
It what fun fact is the moment when the brick goes through
Coach Boone's house. Wow.
What's the daughter's name? Cheryl is in the house.
They changed that from the real story.
What actually happened is somebody threw a toilet through
their window, but they decided to change it to a brick because
I thought I would add like, humor to a serious situation by
seeing, like in a movie, a toilet getting thrown through
the window. I thought that might be funny.
Oh yeah. So they're like, let's make it a
brick to kind of make it a little bit more serious.
But in real life, Coach Boone actually had a toilet go through
his window. That is funny.
Which the toilet causes way more damage.
Oh for sure. And also, like, you could like,
poop in the toilet. Yeah, it's.
Like degrading? It could be funny.
I could see why Disney made that decision.
Toilet through like that. Somebody also had to like, go
like probably take apart their toilet, have to deal with
plumbing issues from that. They're willing to sacrifice
that to get Coach Boone out of there.
So yeah, good decision. If I'd seen the toilet just come
out of nowhere, no contacts, no nothing.
And like, Cheryl, like, jump and then it's a toilet thrown
through the window, I was like, what?
Yeah. So it was good call on their
part. I also love that Coach Boone did
tell Cheryl to essentially shut up.
Yes, 'cause she's been yapping all movie.
She's been yapping. She's been like, what?
Is she doing? She's been a girl, talking like
she knows football. Oh dude, she gets physical.
She's like kicking men. Yeah, every now and then.
You look tough, girl. She's a little tough girl, but
like, I just love that she somehow made it to boot camp,
which the only thing I can assume is that like Koji Yost
must have had like he's probably widowed because.
Maybe in the movie. OK, just for some context, the
real story with Koji Yost is he actually had four daughters, so
I would assume he was married and had a wife alive.
I would assume. But so Cheryl.
He had a daughter named Cheryl, but she died at like 30, but she
died too young. And so but the family was cool
with them having just like you can exclude us in the story, you
know, you can honor Cheryl. And she wasn't like a super big
football fan like she is in the movie.
You know, she was just a little girl.
She didn't like care, you know, but they thought, you know,
let's honor her. And, you know, I'm cool with her
playing that different version of herself just because we, you
know, she we lost her. It's like, let's honor her.
OK, that back story does help a lot more obviously.
Because I think he is married. I think they just don't show the
wife. Maybe they do in the beginning.
I'm just saying you didn't notice.
I'm just saying in the movie, like he's living out in the
middle of nowhere and he's got and it's just him and his
daughter. You don't ever see his wife.
She goes to boot camp with them. I'm like, just in reality, no
head coach is going to let an assistant coach or anybody like
bring a sibling or a child to Marine Corps style boot camp.
Yeah. And but I love the scene where
she like tries to kind of get in his ear and he's like, yeah, I
really cared about the approval of from a 5 year old girl.
She's like, I'm not. He's like, go play with some
fucking dolls. Yeah, get out of my coach.
I'm about to fire you. Get your daughter.
Out of here, Yeah. What is she doing?
But with that being said, that little child actor, she's good.
She's good. She's really good.
That's like a. Grown woman, at first she's
annoying, but then she you start to like her.
Yeah, the movie progresses like once.
Once they make it known, it's like, why?
She's not racist, she just cares about football.
Yeah, but once. Well, actually, she's.
A little race. She wasn't getting deaf, honey.
Yeah, yeah, she's a little. What are?
You're kind doing here, She says that to him or something.
You're taking my dad's job. Yeah, she's 9, so like,
shouldn't really know. She's just doing what?
She's copying what people say exactly.
There's no actually racist child.
She has opinions on football, the racist thing.
She's like, I just want my dad in the in the Hall of Fame.
So I'm going to say. But that actress, she's really
good. She was good.
I was getting some Sandra Bullock vibes from her and like
the Blind Side kind of that same energy.
Yeah, yeah. So she, they met, they didn't
focus on the wife in the movie, obviously, but I think that
might have been because he, the real Bill Yost got divorced.
So potentially that's why they were not showing the wife side
'cause he he was has an ex-wife. Damn, what are you getting to?
You're a you're a head coach of a high school football team in
Virginia in the 1960s slash 70s. What did you do worthy of a
divorce? I'm not going to speculate on
that. I'm not going to do it.
Supported. One thing comes to mind.
Supported your black brothers, your black brothers in Christ.
May hey, you know what? That's way better than what I
was thinking. What are you thinking?
Just go and say it. Let it ride.
Come on. Come on.
There's no point. Free speech.
Let's go what you got. Head coach getting divorced.
Head coach for high school. High school.
You going pedophile route dude? Why would you disrespect
Kochios? I didn't want to disrespect.
I'm just saying like that's a guess.
I don't know that. But I would much rather think
that she never liked the fact that he started hanging out with
black people. And she was like, I don't give a
fuck that Disney's touching this movie.
I hate that you sided with them. And so she was like, I don't
want anything to do with this movie.
In this case, the racism option is a little bit better.
That's what I'm saying. In this one instance.
Would you rather we choose? Racism over that?
There's an argument to be made there.
Think I heard this question too, but it was like if you had a
son, would you rather him be a racist or no No no.
Would you rather be him be a Nazi or a pedophile?
It was like Nazi. What a terrible choice.
It's it's an awful choice, but like.
Who's that? It's def I think you're
Shankill. What I think it was the, I think
Shane Gillis like asked that question and answered the
question. There's a funny clip of Kevin
Hart. I think the interviewer asked
him like, would you would you rather have a thought daughter
or a gay son? And he's like, what the fuck
kind of question is that right? I'm going to follow that.
It's pretty funny. Would you rather have a gay son
or a thought daughter? OK, really.
Have two healthy kids like it doesn't matter to me.
Two healthy children and the fact that you have to like put
them in those categories says a lot about who you are.
Oh no, don't you dare. I'm.
Just telling you, I think the real problem is in the thinker,
not the answerer, the thinker. Maybe you should.
Maybe you should just ponder on that for a second.
Which do you give less of a about gay rights or women's
rights? Well, first and foremost.
Not about a joke interview. That next question better be a
joke interview. No, let's hold on.
Let's play out. What's his answer?
Those rights are rights. You should care about them all.
Everybody has a voice and everybody deserves to be heard.
What I want to do is be a part of the change that the world
desperately deserves and hopefully get it to a point
where we're all on the same accord.
PR team approved. Yeah, that guy's good.
A lot of training. Also.
Couldn't tell if he was being serious.
It's called AZ We interview. It's got to be a joke interview,
like parody. It's a Tyraco late night talk
show. It's good.
OK, nice, good, nice. Anyways, sorry Coach Yost I.
Seems like why'd you go down that route?
What are you doing? I didn't mean to go down that
route. I was just acknowledging the
fact that his younger daughter was at that Marine style boot
camp and like, why? How come he would?
How come he couldn't leave her behind?
And I just from a movie standpoint, I would assume that
his character is given that, right, because he's been through
a tragic accident. But if we're looking at it in
real life where you provided that information that he was in
fact divorced, high school coach, pedophile, potentially,
you know. Just working around high school,
people just immediately go to pedophile.
I'm, well, no, I'm really thinking like like 19, sixties,
1970s, like divorce isn't that common then.
I guess, yeah, maybe I. Don't know, it's like a real big
deal to get a divorce, especially if you're a high
school coach. You got a reputation to maintain
there. Maybe cheated?
Why do you go cheated route? With a girl.
Little high school? No, no, no, no anyway.
I don't want to play this game. You started the game.
No, you're picking my mind and I'm just telling you like that's
where my head went. And I would rather, I'd rather
leave this subject alone. I don't know anything about.
You tells a lot about you as a person.
Think it's a lot about the thinker, which is you.
OK, I just Kevin Hart as your ass.
You did just Kevin Hart me. I'm sorry.
This movie does like a total
flip on you like early on when you go to Gettysburg and the
whole team just comes together as brothers and then racism is
no longer existence in this team and you're like, oh sweet, let's
go like happy movie for the rest of.
The time I did, I said that I was like, oh shit, they figured
it out really quickly so we just get to watch them ball the fuck
out now the. Second, they come back into
town, it's like, Nope, yeah, protest in the street, white
people screaming, yeah, get that out of our coast.
Didn't really you kind of it's it's it's very well done
because. It brings you back to reality.
Yeah, because I forgot. Yeah, I forgot that they, like,
these are little kids. They got to go back to their
really racist parents that they learned all of that from.
Yeah. And their parents, like, I can't
believe just for movies sake, like I can't.
It is a little easy how things are done in this movie.
Like somebody gives you a little resistance and then you give
them a nice powerful monologue and they're like.
Well, Denzel can't convince you of anything.
I'm thinking in real life, black coach tells that little kid in
front of God and everybody in that town, he's like, who's your
daddy dead? Not good.
Killed. Not good.
Yeah, making the star linebacker say.
All the only all American. Yeah, in front of his parents.
In front of the. Parents in front of his racist
parents. Yeah, and they just sat there
and took that well. They didn't hear him, hopefully.
I mean, he's kind of whispering to him.
Who's your daddy? Yeah.
You are. Yeah.
Whose whose team is this? Is it your team or your daddy's
team? Cheers.
Get your fucking ass on the bus, bitch.
Yeah, man. You know, so it was just, but
that's just that's kind of Disney.
I also think like early 2000s. There's a lot of corny moments
in this, but that doesn't go to say that that's like a bad.
What are your What are your corny moments?
OK, one scene that you just did not need in the time that they
did, it was like state championship Coach Boone just
broke them out. They literally just ran out to
the field to go start either playing or warming up.
And as they're running out, where is he, Louie?
Louie just grabs him and he's like, I got AI, average AC plus
all across the board I'm going to college coach and they like
hug it out. That's a nice scene.
You just don't need it right then and there.
Was it? I don't even remember.
That that was right before, yes, literally right before they run
out to play in the state championship game.
He does that. It's like, what the fuck then?
They It's also not the end of the school year if football at
this school is. Not even close.
No, you have like half the year left if it's still if football
season was the same as it is today.
There you go. See, it's corny.
That's just Disney being like, oh fuck, we got to wrap that
part up too. You didn't have to put it there.
You could just show them all graduating.
Literally, they get that simple. Then right after that scene, the
other corny thing that they do is they have Gary's girlfriend
or whatever she is go up to. Racist side piece?
Yeah. Go up to Julius, which how the
fuck did she get past security for a state championship game
you got to? Just put it up to the 70s and
lack of security. I guess there's no TSA back then
and. She goes and shakes his hand.
I don't know why I did quote on quote there, but she does.
She actually does shake his hand.
But it was like, get out of here.
Get literally get out of here. I'm in the zone.
Gives you the least the power to win.
I'm in the zone for the state championship.
You think you're on my mind right now?
True. I mean, like, I'm not thinking
about you. I'm just saying it's corny and
it didn't have to happen there. All of that could have happened
at like the graduation or like after they won the game.
She could have come up to him and just.
Shook his hand. Well, OK now.
Not that he still would have cared.
I think if they did it after the game it wouldn't have been as
powerful because maybe it could be perceived as only after they
win. She's like, OK, you have my
respect now. It's like I do before the game,
before they went. Before they made it to the state
championship. How about this?
How about when they get on the bus before they get on the bus?
Good luck Julius. I wish you well.
Go out there and get them. Yeah, it doesn't matter.
They've already proven that they're a good football team.
They're undefeated going to the state championship.
So even if you lose the state championship, it doesn't matter
because, like, I mean, it matters, but like, it doesn't
matter. You've proven that you're a good
football team. Yeah.
So if you're. It just kind of goes against
your argument, which I do see what you mean.
And I bet Disney was thinking that.
Yeah. But it doesn't matter in
reality, which it's a Disney movie.
It is. I got to pump the brakes a
little bit. It is a.
Disney movie? Yeah, a family friendly movie
with heartwarming moments fighting racism.
And like, damn it, I liked it. I'm just, you know.
Just nitpicking. I'm just nitpicking a little
bit, just you know, I've been watching Black Mirror for like 3
weeks straight now, OK? Yeah, you want to see some dark
shit? Speaking of dark shit, we didn't
even talk about Gary's wreck. OK, so all right, we're going to
talk about it like let's call it what it is.
This is a Disney movie. Yeah, dude, I cried a little
bit. The funniest thing, The funniest
thing is like, so Greg's never seen the movie.
So as we're watching it today, Gary, you know, shifts his car
into gear, whatever, and puts on the hammer.
I just hear Greg go, oh, no, he just knew what was happening.
There's about to be tragedy. This is too high of a moment.
We're about to get put down. So Greg, just like, Oh no.
And then crash. I I thought he was about to hit
somebody. Oh yeah, I saw it all play.
I was like, damn, he he's about to just floor that thing.
He's going to hit somebody, kill them.
Now he's in jail, dude. It's a completely different
story now. You know what, now that racism
has ended in this town, that truck driver, now that all the
hatred goes toward him, yeah, everybody's like, what the fuck
were you doing? Yeah.
Well, for me I'm thinking like. I mean, just real quick to get
paralyzed with that. How fast would the truck moving
when there's so many people around?
Literally what was that truck doing in this scene?
Now maybe I think he actually in real life got the injury after
the season. He might have finished it.
I don't know if he no way. It might have been some
dramatic. Let's see.
But what were you saying? Sorry.
But nothing. Nothing I was just going on top
of like if he had driven and committed vehicular manslaughter
and then went to jail he would have turned racist real quick.
Wait, no, you might have joined the no one of the black gangs.
No, most certainly would have joined the skinheads survival.
It becomes a completely different movie at that point.
Yep. Gary Bertier.
Gary Gary Bertier was paralyzed in the chest down following the
car A car accident on December 11th, 1971, shortly after the
conclusion of the TC Williams High School championship
football season. OK, so yeah.
Yeah, contrary to the film Remember the Titans, the
accident occurred after the state championship game, not
before. Yeah, well, that's not good
enough for the story. But, and this is the cause was a
mechanical failure of the motor mount in his new 1971 Camaro
resulted in a loss of control, according to investigations
report. So nobody even hit him, he just
lost control. Wow.
But then he did. He then he died from a drunk
driving accident. Geez, in 1981, ten years after
that. Damn.
But he got a gold medal. How was he?
He wasn't driving though when he died.
Why do you say that? He's paralyzed.
Oh yeah? Wait.
Well, they have special cars for that.
They do. Yeah.
You can drive a car if you're paralyzed.
Yeah, they have like A and like you can drive with one arm and
you did the speed with your other hand.
Interesting. Let's see about that.
First car crash. He was returning home from a
business trip, driving alone. The southbound 1980 Oldsmobile
collided with the northbound car that crossed over the center
line on Route 20 in Charts Charlottesville, VA who.
He died afterwards from his injuries in the University of
Virginia Hospital and the guy was charged with manslaughter
and driving under the influence of alcohol in connection with
the accident. Nice, good, I'm glad they
clarified that. I don't know if they did in the
movie, but I was worried that maybe he had been drinking.
That would have been not very happy.
They would not have been that. They would not have put that in
the Disney version. I really, I got to shut the fuck
up. They shouldn't have let me have
a mic. Who left you on this podcast?
Oh, OK. I like it good.
And control. You think you've seen it all?
Make it work. You learn something new
everyday. I did not know this was a thing.
That's cool. Or like if you have like if you
lost your legs but maybe have like your knee down or
something, there's like sticks you can press.
They make it work. So you can live as much of a
normal life as you can. Nice.
Anyways, I'm trying to think of other corny moments.
There's more. I think those two are just like,
I think I was just a little annoyed because it's the state
championship. So I personally did not care
about wrapping that up in that moment.
Sure, There's other corny moments where I was like, oh,
like Gary when he's in the hospital bed and the nurse says
it's only Ken Loudon here. And he says he tells her he's
like, what? Can't you tell the resemblance?
That's my brother. That's a good line.
That's not corny. That's not corny.
This stuff was corny.
OK. This stuff.
Was corny, Maybe a little bit. This stuff was corny.
Now, now. The resemblance, That's funny.
That's a good line. Here's an argument for the fist
up the poster he put up to call back to that poster.
No. Yes it is.
No. Julius's poster at boot camp had
the. Fist up the black guys on the
podium, fist up. And so he's showing his respect.
OK, Black power. OK, OK, this can be the thumb.
This can be me. The thumbnail right here.
OK, you know what? Yeah, I'll still corny and you
know it because when I started laughing during that scene, you
also started laughing too. So it is funny though.
Yeah, it is funny. It is funny like, well, because
the nerd like, like the nurse isn't even in the room anymore.
So it's like, all right, dude, drop the, drop the ACT.
You don't get a virtue signal to the nurse.
You already made it very clear that you're not racist anymore.
Yeah, what? This is corny.
Not corny, but I do love this line.
I don't know if it was the correct placement, but I guess
it was. It's whenever Sunshine has to go
in the game, but he's like, Coach, don't put me in.
I can't. I can't get that pitch down.
I can't do it. Can't, can't get it.
And Coach Boone says, like, son, when I was 12 years old, I lost
my mother and my father in the same month.
And I was the youngest of 12 and they all looked up to me even
though I was the baby of the family.
He was like, didn't want to be, but I had to be.
I wasn't ready. Yeah, but I had to be.
Right. And then that was a good speech
delivered in Denzel fashion. You know, I like that a lot.
I just didn't know like that was the moment to do that or if that
was the moment you got to like slow the media really more slow
MOS. You got us greatest ones, more
slow MOS. More slow MOS, more montages,
that's all. But no, like, you got to like,
make it more dramatic. Feels like there were some
scenes that are just kind of like brushed over even like the
state championship itself, like we didn't get to like live and
like how hard they worked to get there.
They also beat racism. I don't know, I think like half
the movies, them playing football.
No, I'm talking like for the big moment, you win the big one.
He he defied all odds. You said it yourself, if he
loses a game, he's fired. Again, if this movie was 3 hours
long, I'm OK if they because because again they probably cut
the six championship short because of the time I was
already 2 hours long. Give us an extra 30 minutes of
just showing us that full championship game of them just
battling back, winning. 'Cause I I want a director's
cut. Yeah, give us the, give us the,
give us the four hour director's cut.
Remember the Titans? More like remake the Titans, am
I right? Let's see all the footage you
got. You know what?
You could do it now because Denzel Washington and Coach
Yost, who's Coach Yost played by.
His name is Will Patton. OK, Denzel Washington is young
in this movie. It's a young man coaching says
after this season he coached 5 more years and retired.
Right? So really you could remake the
movie with Denzel being the coach and Will Patton being the
coach because that would make more sense because they look
young. Like when I saw they were tired,
I was like, what? Didn't like go on, Like what?
That was it five years. They were like kind of on the
outs. So what I'm saying you could
remake this movie in theory and, you know, get a little bit more
emotion in those like sports moments.
Sure, like the you know, the monologues I think are perfect,
not only just delivery wise, but like you live in those
monologues, you know, in the movies.
But like there were just some moments where I was like, hold
up. That was like a pretty big
moment that like drove the story a lot.
Like we should kind of be sitting in this a little bit so,
you know. We get the fun little comedic
relief where he's like, you had twelve siblings like I had 812
sounds better. Yeah, it's funny little Disney,
little Disney humor. Got some good humor in it.
Yeah, it's a good, it's a good, great family movie.
Let's rate it. Let's do it.
All right, Greg, what you got for Remember the Titans?
For Remember the Titans for acting, I've got a 10 out of 10.
We got a little powerhouse here and Denzel obviously carries
most of it, but everybody delivers.
They do a good job. It's good acting on everybody's
part. Agreed.
Writing 8 out of 10. It's good.
Solid, family friendly, great monologues.
As we've talked about a lot, I don't think there's much like
wasted dialogue either. So like, I think it like kind of
flows well. I think the stories push like in
a great way. So yeah, writing solid editing
is 6 out of 10. I honestly could go for five out
of 10, but I'll say 6 out of 10 because of the football
montages. I love those.
But yeah, like I just said, like I think there were like a lot of
big moments that like we should have kind of lived in.
And so it fell short just on that.
This should have been a longer movie.
Yeah, it should have gone for two and a.
Half, yeah, this should have been a two and a halfer.
So 6 out of 10. Cinematography, 7 out of 10.
I don't think it's like anything crazy special, although I I
always love any anything on ATV that's like showing cinema mixed
with sports. I'm always going to love that.
I always think you can, you can make that look really good.
So I'll give a 7 out of 10 to cinematography enjoyability, 10
out of 10. It's a great movie.
I feel good movie. Maybe you're getting a 10 out of
10 out of me because I'm in a very vulnerable spot right now
because I'm just traumatized by what I've been watching lately.
I needed this. I needed this.
It got some good tears out of me, but like, good tears and
happy tears. Yeah, I was like.
I got some like the, yeah, happy emotional moments, just like,
overwhelmed with the joy of them coming together.
Yeah. You know, you got the yeah, I
can get some tears. Yeah.
Not tears. But I get a little emotional.
Yeah, makes me happy. Makes me happy.
So it's a 8.2 out of 10, all right.
But it's a good movie. Everybody should watch it.
For what I have for Remember the Titans, which is also my wife's
favorite movie of all time, this is Mercedes favorite movie of
all time. They're #1 maybe under
Inglorious Basterds. They might be tied to completely
opposite ends of the spectrum. It's OK, that's how movies work.
But So what I have for this movie is acting 10 and 10, of
course, writing 10 and 10 think the emotional parts are
beautiful. Touches me.
Sure that you could you could argue some corniness, but I'm OK
with it with this movie doesn't Take Me Out of it.
I like it, makes me emotional. OK, I like it.
You love it. It's great.
You just gave the writing a 10 out of 10 that I think that's
safe to say you love the writing.
Editing 10 out of 10 football montages.
I love me a good montage, OK, and I don't feel like I mean the
big moments, you know, I don't feel like they were, you know,
like underdone at all. I think it focuses a good, you
know, you know, maybe maybe sitting in some of those moments
makes it a little bit too dramatic when the focus is
about, you know, the team coming together and ending racism and
you know, the football team and all that winning.
So like, I'm cool with the I'm cool with the moment.
Maybe some of them not being as big because there are a ton of
big moments already, you know, for they save that for the big
ones. Some photography and at 10 it's
good. Nothing special.
But I mean the football ones are great.
I love seeing some slow MO, just people getting knocked the fuck
out and then enjoyability. 10 out of 10 I can watch this movie
every day. Hypes me up, gets me inspired.
We needed this movie. I'll run through a fucking brick
wall after watching this movie. I yeah, I'm, I'm right there
with you. I'm about to.
I'm about to go play some basketball.
Oh yeah. I'm feeling good before and I
hope I have some black teammates.
Or yeah, after you, after they score basket, you'll put the
black power fist up. Can't you tell that's my brother
that just hit that shot? And then before games, you're
just putting a Coach Boone speech in your ear.
So let's go. So my total score is a 9.6 out
of 10 for Remember the Titans, a childhood staple of mine.
I'm glad I've seen it now. Yeah, me too.
Glad I've seen it now, but it's. One of those movies when you
right when you said you've never seen it.
Next episode. Yeah, Remember the Titans.
Yeah, just movie. I feel like you got to watch it
just like everybody's got to see this movie.
Just good. Yeah, somebody messed up.
Not I don't like, I don't even know how, just going through
public school, how this wasn't one of the movies that we
watched. True.
I don't understand how that didn't happen.
I don't understand, like, especially playing sports.
Yeah, well, this wasn't shown. Yeah, like with your high school
coach of basketball or football that should you have his blow
off class. I'm just saying that.
He's forced to teach. Why is he not throwing this on
at the end of the year? Yeah, or like even as young as
like 4th, 5th, 6th grade should have been watching this movie.
Yeah, I agree. All right, thank you guys for
listening. Comment below your thoughts on
Remember the Titans. Let us know where this ranks in
your top 10 or just movie list in general.
Is it a great one or do you feel like it's not very good?
Because I think there's some mixed reviews that actually, I
think the whatever executive at Disney, they had like a damn
near perfect score from the, you know, test screening audience.
They all loved it. But he was like, I think it
needs a little bit more work, but it ended up being super
successful and the staple of a Denzel's career.
Nice. So all right, let us know what
you think. I mean, it's a Disney, but I was
about to ask like, oh, what was the budget?
How much money did it make? I bet it did all right.
I bet it did all. Right, 2000s Denzel Washington
is a killer. Come out in the acting and
you've got a story about beating racism and it's a good, it's a
feel good Disney movie. Like, all right, dude, I I know
that this movie probably did pretty well.
Yep, so anyways, thank gosh listening come up below your
thoughts. I already said that we'll see
you all as always next week. Don't forget to like and
subscribe. Don't forget to leave us a
review on Apple Spotify for listening there.
And also don't forget if you made it to the end and you're a
fan, don't forget to go to showstack.tv and vote for us if
it's still available. I don't know if it will be but
join going to all 99 months to join show stack.
It's basically free. Yeah, so at least keep up with
our journey because we were working on some stuff we're
cooking in the laboratory and we've got some fun stuff that
were one to to get out to y'all real soon.
It's going to be through them. So please join if you want to
see us venture out more than just two dudes talking about
movies. We got some we got some things
cooking so go support us on show stack for now and we'll see you
next week. We are out.
Well, I've been working like a dog
trying to buy my next wheel. Seems all I do is drive and win
the.