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Let's get into the episode. What's up everybody, Welcome
back to the CRWN Cinema Podcast. In this episode, we are breaking
down. And literally just watched.
The last. Samurai.
Tom Cruise Peak. Well, yeah, I'm saying peak, but
this is peak Tom Cruise. Error wise right?
Isn't that this was discussed on the Tropic Thunder episode?
This. Is the in the middle of an
insane movie run for Tom Cruise in his early 2000s leading up to
Les Grossman? Yeah, this is this is what it's
all LED up to. This was like just a little
piece of the puzzle that led into the figure character that
we all know and love, Les Grossman, Last Samurai.
I will. This movie means something to
me. I love this movie.
I this is my third time today watching it ever.
Last night was my second time, the first time I ever saw this
movie. I think, like, I was a little
kid and my mom was just watching it and like, I think me and her
were the only ones at the house. And so, like, I just saw it and
I was like, yeah, like mom watching a movie I think
probably sucks. Nope, Nope.
Stayed watch the whole thing. It changed my whole day,
whatever plans I had. It was like, now I have to.
This movie's incredible. This movie's awesome.
Kind of a childhood staple. I watched it, I've seen it many
times. Really.
Yeah. This is one of your like kind of
go to's with the family. It's like, you know?
It's one of those movies I. Haven't seen the last Samurai
while it's. Yeah, it's one of those movies
that, you know, talking to your dad about movies and then my
dad's like, you haven't seen a lot of samurai.
It's like, oh, come here, play it.
Oh, yeah. Like oh, that was insane.
It's a great movie, lot of killing, so you got to be a big
fan of this lot. Of killing.
In fact, there are 558 deaths in this movie.
Oh, OK, OK, that makes sense. Battles with the battles.
OK. I was like, how it's like, Tom
Cruise is not that crazy in this movie, but OK, Yeah.
I mean, especially once the machine guns start rolling bows
and arrows. All right, That checks out.
The entire population of the samurai gets extinguished.
Yeah, except. For the white.
Man, it is a war movie. Feel like like that kind of gets
lost on me. Like when I was watching it.
You don't, you kind of forget, like what the title of the movie
is as you're watching it, you know, to understand.
Like, they kind of spoil what's about to happen, you know?
And obviously samurais run around today, so.
Yeah, like, obviously, you know, it's just one of those.
But then like that final battle scene, just seeing it last
night, I was like, damn, I kind of forgot that they're they're
not going to win this. I don't.
Yeah. Well, obviously I was going to
say, I don't know how Tom Cruise would have survived this, but
it's the endings with the writer, the book, what likes to
think what happened. This is based on a book.
No, no, no, I'm talking about the writer of the Remember, he
gives a journal to that. Photographer OK, OK, OK.
It's like for. Your book at the end you hear
him voicing over and he says we don't know what happened to the
American captain, but I liked it.
Some say die from his wounds. Some say he whatever back to his
country. Like to think that he found some
peace. Yeah, OK.
And. Then maybe what they see is what
actually happened to him. You could kind of choose
whatever you want, I guess, yeah.
Well, because they switch narrators in that sense, you
know, they have Tom Cruise's character kind of narrating the
whole movie through his journal entries.
So I will say I love this movie. I do.
It holds a special place in my heart.
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We're OK. We'll just go right into.
It you brought it up. I have AI have a whole list
we'll just like kind of go down in sections.
I'll say the one. Thing that I think is this is
this won't be in order of what you're about to say.
But for me, the one thing that I just find corny, just the ending
when he's bowing down to the Emperor.
He just is now. Like he's OK respecting samurai
culture, sure, but now he's just like the Emperor's now, my God,
right? Like what?
Really. Just yeah, kind of like the
whole thing, really like just Tom Cruise in general.
And let me say this, this is actually one of those movies
where like, I don't really see Tom Cruise as much.
I feel like I see more of the character itself until kind of
the end. Then it then he's yeah, then
he's Mr. Badass. Yeah, and he's Mr. Badass and
like they're bowing to him at the end of the battle.
He's the last samurai, kind of, I mean.
I mean you because. Moto is the literal last samurai
to to die like in the. Battle.
And I think really The Last Samurai, it's really meant to be
the last samurai. As in like plural samurai.
It's the last people of the samurai.
You know, I don't, I don't think they would try to say the white
man is the last samurai. OK, but they do bow down to him.
But out of respect. But when, when you're saying in
the battle. At the end of the battle.
They're now they're bowing to Katsumoto, who just killed
himself. Yeah.
But honoring him, yeah. But it looks like they're bowing
to Tom. Cruise the Tom Cruise is just
like. Worship me.
It's just one of yeah, it's just one of those where like I always
take it back to Mission Impossible.
They did it on the last. Episode literally about to say
this is the samurai Ethan Hunt at the end of the movie.
Yes, thank you. OK, So I don't even need to say
it like it. It just is.
It's like he shows up. He shows up and like he's
obviously he's a badass, like credited badass.
You know, he's done some great things.
He's a great warrior and then when he gets on the battlefield,
they spare him. At least Katsumoto does.
Is it? I'm going to mess up his name I
feel like. Katsumoto.
Katsumoto, he spares him on the battlefield because he reminds
him of the white tiger that he's been seeing in his dreams, where
he's like kind of fighting off the enemy as the samurai are
doing. So like he kind of he sees his
people in him as far as like, we are surrounded by enemies and we
are just like kind of swarming him off.
Get that? That's really well done.
I like that a lot actually. And it's also 'cause that's his,
he's having that flashback in the opening scene when he sees
them, him, it's his memory of him, them attacking that tiger.
And probably from his perspective, you know, they look
up to the tiger and you know, Japanese culture, obviously
artwork and stuff like that. And so the samurai probably
respect the tiger 'cause it's the warrior essentially of the
jungle and they're the most elite warriors in Japan.
And so it's almost like they're trapping this Tiger's fighting
back and they have to kill it. But he feels bad about having to
kill the tiger because it's just in its natural habitat and
they're and it's a white tiger, mind you, rare tiger and they
killed it. So he's, that's his, that's his
trauma that he keeps, that's his nightmares he keeps having.
Yeah, it's a cool callback. Yeah, he regrets what he did.
He regrets they killed that tiger.
Yeah, it's a cool callback. And then he sees this guy
surrounded and he's fighting like a tiger.
You can see the warrior spirit inside of this white man that's
coming here. He's not just some American
soldier that's got guns and fighting.
He's to the last ounce of strength he has.
He's going to fight. You see that multiple times in
the movie. Tom Cruise will just fight like
when even when he's going to get beat, he'd still pick up the
sword and like do a half ass swing with all the only amount
of strength that's left in him. So Katsumoto sees that in him.
He's like, and he's waving the tiger so that he has that
symbolism. He writes poetry and shit.
He has visions. So he's like, there's something
else with this guy. Yeah, yeah, which that part that
that works for me I I have no problem with that.
I I only have little nitpicks about this movie.
I don't have anything like major.
So what one of the other things that kind of comes to mind is
like, I just don't like it when characters are written to be
like specifically dumb, especially when they're in a
position of power where like to get to that position, they had
to be smart. And so I'm thinking of the
translator. Well, I guess the narrator at
the end of it that writes his book.
I didn't really appreciate that that's how they chose to show
Tom Cruise's character like his trauma.
Whenever the the translator is like, oh, you're a fellow
linguist, like please tell me about the savage language.
Like say hello or goodbye. Oh, never mind that, say cut out
his tongue. Cut out his tongue and boil it
in water. Or oil, he says.
Or. Oil.
Yeah, sorry. And so he says that.
And like, that is just not the right way to do that, especially
given like what we're seeing, you know, he's an alcoholic,
messed up war veteran, clearly traumatized, like clearly is not
happy to be here, wants to die. And so like, that's just not
good. Reading the room.
I would have rather I think that scene would have worked better
and it would have worked even better with build up if it had
been whenever Tom Cruise character is talking to
Katsumoto in the garden about the ancestors having regret and
then he tells him he's like, you have no idea what I've done.
It would have been better delivered if Katsumoto had been
like, why don't you share or like, why don't you tell me?
Let your problems go in this garden.
That's when you get the flashback of like where all this
pain comes from. Like what what he did was bad.
It's an actual terrible thing. Like he was a part of a mass, a
massacre of women, children, our whole tribe.
And like, he didn't like step back from it.
He actively participated in it. So I would have rather that have
been the way that we get. But in that scene, we don't see
that. We just see him talking about
scalping. In the garden, no.
When he's talking to the linguist.
It happens right after he tells him, and then he's just like
kind of sitting there with, like, the memory of it and it
floods him and it all comes back to him.
I just don't think, like, I just don't like that.
Yeah, I just, yeah, I, I, I think that's kind of
inconsistent. It makes sense for the Simon
Graham is the writer at the very end of the narrator, the little
photographer, linguist guy. It makes sense for his character
though, because he's a guy that studies books and so he has this
separation from what actually happened.
He's just studying the battle, studying the history.
He's never actually been through a battle, been through that.
So him asking that and not reading the room, right?
It's because he doesn't read rooms, he reads books.
I see what you mean, but I also think that like if you're going
to conduct interviews with soldiers, which is probably how
he gets all of his material is through interviews, I don't.
Think he writes. Really.
I think he he translates books. I was and.
Then now he's writing a book about the samurai.
OK, OK. In that case, yeah, Yeah, that
might actually be like a good interpretation.
Your main issue isn't necessarily with him, it's with
the how the flashback pops in. Yeah, I again, like, I think it
just would have been better delivered.
I well, I do have a problem with the translator.
Just like like how that's like incredibly dense to not see that
like what? You should not have said that,
right. But also, yeah, like I think it
would have been way better for us to see that he's messed up,
but then see him be become like a good man, you know, through
his sobriety and like he's been training with the samurai.
And then it like shows you like, damn, he killed children.
OK, Like that's, that's pretty hardcore.
In the audience's eyes, though, could set back his progress.
If you see him killing women and children, you don't see him like
point blank doing it. You just know that it happened
at the battle he was at and he was probably participating
because he always has. Obviously has the trauma.
For the sake of this being a feel good Tom Cruise movie, in a
sense, I can understand why they didn't do that because they're
like, no, Tom Cruise is one over the audience.
He's one over the samurai. He can't just tell the Lord like
I, I killed children. With women and children.
And then Katsumoto is like what? Yeah.
I I brought you in. You've been raised by children.
Yeah. Are they in danger?
Yeah. Oh, so I could.
Yeah. I could see that being a thing.
Other NIT picky things. Tom Cruise saving.
No, I have it written down. Nobu Tata.
Nobu Tata said. I don't know if you pronounce
it. Who's that?
That is like the kind of his little brother that's very
friendly. See him in the bottom left
there. Nobu Tata.
Nobu Tata, I'm sure I'm messing that up, but I'm I'm trying my
best here. When he saves him on the bridge
after he's already been shot. This character, by the way, is
Katsumoto's son, the Archer. Nice like.
What? For real?
No. No, I'm just saying for the
audience sake. Oh, nice.
Thank you. Just a little clarification I'm
sure. So it's his sister and his son.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's his son because he calls
her, he calls Taka aunt, OK in the beginning.
OK, OK. Thank you.
Tom Cruise going and saving him on the bridge while it's like
under fire, just kind of that's just like Hollywood magic.
You can't even be mad about it because like they do that.
This is one of those movies where like it's clear that like
Tom Cruise will not die so he can take Tom Cruise type risks.
So him running to the bridge in the middle of it while it's
under fire, just like a little bit of a cloak kind of.
And he doesn't even necessarily save him.
It's just like he brings him to his father so the father can be
with him at the end. Just a little nitpick.
Like I just, I, part of me honestly thinks that like if
this movie got made today, it'd be interesting in a more
realistic way. Like if somebody had a better
crack at it. Yeah, they they.
I'll try to take away from it because I I really do like this
movie. That's at the end.
They really set up the fact that he's going to live by saying
he's like, I should have died many times.
He's like, yeah, you still live like just this warrior.
Tom Cruise just can't die, right?
He just somehow survives battles.
Yeah. So when he runs in and saves a
man getting shot at in the middle of a bridge wide open
with no cover, that's what happens with this guy.
Which is why I kind of disagree with the ending of it overall.
Tom Cruise's character like, desperately has been looking to
die in a battle to kind of be put out of his misery.
And now that he expect, you know, it's one of those for like
he killed a tribe. And so I think it would have
made more sense for his character to die at the end
because he's like he fought for this tribe till the till the
bitter end and died with them. So it's almost like it almost
like it balances that balances it out, even though it does not.
You know what he did is very, very bad, but for the
character's sake, like it would have rather he died and not like
been brought up to the emperor and gets to like be the last
samurai. So there's that.
I don't like that he kisses. This also might have to do with
the fact that I don't agree with the ending, but I don't like
that he kisses Taka that her name, because it's a movie about
honor. It's all about like honoring the
people and all that. So he has been proving that like
he just loves these people and what they stand for and the the
peace that they have acquired and like the fact that like they
have saved him from his own trauma and like, like got him
into sobriety. And so like, it just seems like
he and he killed her husband. So like that makes it a little
trickier too, but. It's the samurai culture.
He died doing his duty. It's like an honorable death.
Yeah, but is that really how that works?
Like, all right, Like, this dude killed your husband.
He's your problem now. Yeah.
You know, it's just one of those for like and OK, so to kind of
get more into that, like the night before the final battle, I
think that's like a little Hollywood feel where there's
like, damn, like have they been feeling each other this whole
time? Is it like the build up there's
been? Tension in the whole movie.
Right. Has it been romantic tension?
But then she closes the door on him at night.
And so part of me thought, like, wow, that's really cool that
she's saying no. Like, I have honored you as a
guest. You are a great warrior.
You are clearly respected by my people.
But I don't see you that way. Also, in that shot, you see her
ex, her former husband's armor in the background when she
closes the door. So I kind of thought that
symbolized like, we can never be lovers because you killed my
husband. I took that as her not wanting
to get close and lose somebody else.
Like she's like forging her to shut him out because she doesn't
want to lose him. Like she doesn't want to commit
to the feelings. And then she's like, so she
doesn't want to commit to the feelings.
So she shuts the door to try to protect herself from being sad
about his death because it's going to, they kind of know it's
going to be a brutal battle. There's going to be a lot of
death. He's probably going to die so.
I guess, yeah. That's how I took it.
Yeah, you could take it that way, especially since the
youngest son is crying and he's like, probably because, you
know, he doesn't want me around. And she was like, actually quite
the opposite. He doesn't want to lose another
father figure. It's not like they hooked up,
they just had a little kiss and then she's like, OK, we can't do
this and then just dresses him. You're right.
What just makes me kind of hate the kiss more.
Maybe not hate, but just like he just didn't have to.
It was like this beautiful moment.
It's so long. The music's really well and like
you can like kind of feel. The tension really, I guess, but
really like, is it a respect thing or are they actually about
to get it on? And then he kisses her and like
he like doesn't like lay up that one on her.
She. Also doesn't close her eyes.
He doesn't close her eyes when she kisses.
Him, yeah. So that's some more respect to
her husband. Like I will go, but eyes closed.
I mean, eyes open. OK, OK.
Quickest. Thank you.
Let me see. I think 001 more.
I swear this is it. Colonel.
What's his name? Colonel Bagley.
Colonel. Colonel Bagel.
That the motherfucker. He's the.
Bagley, you dumbass. Colonel Bagley Bagley.
Colonel Bagley. Bagley, Baiwi.
It's Colonel Bagley. Think that's how it looks.
I see it as Colonel Bagley, but it's probably Bagley.
It doesn't matter. Same shit we're saying.
The same shit. It's Colonel Bagley.
It's got to be Colonel Bagley. You said Bagley.
I did. Oh, I'm thinking bagel.
Whatever. Sorry.
Keep going. Bagley, it's, it's Bagley.
Yeah, yeah, you're right. I don't like that kind of at the
end there. He seems to feel bad about what
he's doing to the samurai. You think?
He Where is he? Who's the bad Japanese person?
The one that's like Is that Omura?
Yeah, Omura. Omura found him like kill them
all. And he like looks at him and he
oh, he says like, oh, they're about to attack again.
They're about to attack. And he's like, they're about to
attack, OK, well, let's kill them all.
And he looks almost angry. Colonel Bagley.
And then he like hits him in the chest with something.
I don't know what it was. His his binoculars.
OK, he hits him in the chest as if he's like God, like this is
wrong what we're doing. I don't like that.
I I think he he is a bad guy and he's already he shows no remorse
for killing children. It's like, that's literally as
bad as it gets. Like that's horrible.
That's a bad thing. So don't start feeling bad now.
I wonder if instead of him being mad or feeling bad about it,
he's scared because what this, you know, Japanese general is
telling him is final attack. You're on that attack, by the
way, like he's a part of the troops that's fighting.
Like his contract probably has him.
You know, when it gets to the end, you got to fight.
I'm not fighting. I'm the fuck, I'm the boss, I'm
on the council of the Emperor. So I think I wonder if it's more
like he's pissed off that they have to go fight them.
Like he now has to go step in and fight.
It's like final attack go and he's like fuck yeah, he's like I
gotta go fuck and fight some samurai.
Maybe I since I doubt they give him a redeeming moment it.
Just the intention. It just looked by the way he was
looking at the samurai. He was like, this is wrong.
Like we're just mowing them down and they have swords and armor.
And honor. And honor.
Yeah. I was like, no, no, no, don't
start feeling bad now. You killed children and kind of
just don't care. So don't know.
You get no redemption in this. You just deserve to die.
Yeah. Good.
And buy a great Tom Cruise throw.
Yeah, a cool thing about this movie with Tom Cruise's samurais
ability is that the stunt coordinators, they train Tom
Cruise throughout the movie. Usually you do all you do all
your training and prep beforehand, so you're ready to
go dialed in for the movie. But on this movie, they trained
him throughout, so that way you can watch his swordsmanship get
better actually as his character gets better.
That's impressive considering in that first fog fight when he's I
mean it's pretty bad ass in. That, I mean, he's been, he's
has fought with swords before. You know, yeah, like, I mean,
you're getting Tom Cruise in this movie.
So like, he's going to show out when it comes to fight scenes,
which I love. And he looks awesome.
It's very realistic. It makes sense when Katsumoto
sees him as a tiger, 'cause he's just like this crazy fighter
that's Tom Cruise, you know? So, yeah, but that, that's
really interesting. 'Cause I mean, you can see, you
know? So he's not necessarily acting
badly as a swordman when he's getting beat up by, what's his
name, the best, the badass samurai Yu-gi-oh.
Yu-gi-oh, when he's fighting him with the sticks and you know
when he's like fighting the kid, he's beating on the kid and then
he's like, you want to fucking fight?
I'll show you a fight and then beats his ass.
Which I couldn't tell if that happens because he's fighting a
kid or if it's because Tom Cruise I keep calling him Tom
Cruise Nathan or if it's because Nathan cheats because he.
Cheats. He does cheat.
He grabs the kids stick, which is supposed to be a sword.
So that's cheating. You can't do that.
So now I'm about to come whoop your ass.
So I I think that's what it is. I don't think it's because he
doesn't like the outsider, probably.
A mixture of all things. Well, he doesn't like the
outsider. He doesn't but like Kozmoto has
been like don't hurt him. So like that would be directly
disobeying your superior. I think hurt and samurai
language means something a little different.
Hurt means like kill or like cut him up but you can whack his ass
with a sword in training. Yeah, but like he like just
straight up, I think it's because he grabs a sword.
And because he and he beats his ass because he won't quit that
too. Like you're going to learn
today, boy. Yeah, but I I like, I like that
detail because I think that is what it is.
I think if he because Tom Cruise was, he's kind of losing this
kid if he didn't cheat, right. The guy tells me he's like, kids
are strong. I mean.
He was going to, he was going to get in with that hit.
That's why I grabbed it. Yeah, so that's cheating.
So now we now we beat your ass. And of course, you know, Tom
Cruise commits heavily to his roles with whatever it is.
And so in this movie, he said, you know, him taking the
philosophy of the samurai seriously and really getting in
touch with the characters and the surrounding characters.
He said he almost got to a point in the movie during production
where he felt so in tune with his body because he's, you know,
training with swords and it's all about the samurai and, and
fighting. So he felt like he was so in
tune with like being aware of his body that he said it
shockingly during the big battle scene when people running
around, you're just slamming into people.
No one got hurt. Like he didn't get hurt at all
through all the stunts, through everything.
He didn't get hurt 'cause he felt like he just like, knew how
to land, knew how to like, move, maneuver his body to like be
safe and just. He was just dialed in on his
samurai training. Let's go.
I mean, Tom Cruise just a legend.
He just did and he, you know, it's it's always nice to see
somebody like give a damn about what they do.
So like it when it comes to Tom Cruise playing some type of
action role. I mean, you at least know that
you're going to get him giving it his all, so.
Yeah, I mean, those battle scenes are incredible.
So good, so good. Lot of killing.
Yeah, Like, let just like, cinematically, I don't think
this movie does anything incredibly special.
I think it's like kind of basic shots for the most part.
But that fog scene when the samurai come out of the woods
out of the fog in the open fight, Yeah.
When he gets captured before he gets captured.
That looks cool. Yeah, that's awesome.
Scary. And then Tom Cruise get knocked
off his horse and then honestly, becoming a better fighter off of
his horse and just the way he manoeuvres.
I can't really. I think he's just Tom Cruise is
so explosive in his movements. I think that's what's so awesome
about Tom Cruise. He knows how to perform for the
camera. Yeah, like he just looks
confident and just like he just, he looks like a madman out
there, so. And I think he is insane, yeah,
especially at this time, but. The that opening, it kind of
sucks a little bit that it's at the beginning only because of
the, if you think about putting yourself in the mind of the
Japanese guys fighting underneath Tom Cruise, they,
they're, they like, they know who the samurai are.
We don't necessarily know how intense or how brutal or how
good the samurai are at war. Like we've kind of been told
about it, but we don't really know it.
So they do a good job, at least from beginning to set up just
how powerful these guys are and how scary it would be to fight
them. But you don't really get to feel
necessarily how insanely scary it is to be up there with your
muskets in the woods and you hear, wow, the samurai coming.
Then you see them come out of the fog with their helmets.
Like if you're one of those guys, the Japanese guys that
knows what you're about to get into, you are shitting your
pants. You see their face and
everything. So they do a good enough job to
get you to understand that. But if you just like, think
about that, what those characters are at, there's a
real man, what they're actually feeling you.
Probably could have shown a little bit better close up shots
of the soldiers like trembling. Or or before that you build up
how insane these guys are. Yeah, I agree.
I agree. It's like that.
Like you could have shown them looking really scared when
Colonel Bagley was like, like we go tomorrow.
We we, we, we ride tomorrow to to fight them.
Like you could have shown them being like, oh, no, God, we
don't want to do that. So for the sake of the movie,
movies incredibly historically inaccurate as it goes.
All right, before I want to hear this because you did some
historical research, but before you say this, I want to say one
thing that they did really well. So the village that they
created, you know, the obviously the samurai village, it was so
accurate of how it looked, how it felt.
If they didn't film it in Japan, they filmed it in New Zealand.
Oh, damn it. Yeah.
Oh, what? And so they made that set feel
so realistic that when they hired older Japanese people to
come live in the village extras, they showed up and teared up and
cried because it reminded them exactly how they grew up a long
time ago. That's cool.
See, that's sick. So that was super accurate that
they were like, wow, this literally feels like home.
That's where I grew up in like a village just like this.
And so there's some pros now and you.
Know what the samurai when they're fully suited up in their
armor, sick. Badass.
So badass, so badass. One of the other shots that I
just love and I think like probably the most famous one is
Tom Cruise practicing by himself on the hill with the sun
setting. That looks good.
All right, what are the historical inaccuracies in this
thing? OK.
Just quickly watch it, which I think everybody probably just
knows that. It's going to Hollywood itself
up it's. Going to Hollywood itself up.
So this isn't a bad thing. I'm just saying like it is
interesting. They took creative liberties
that I think today because I feel like a lot of movies today,
they try to shy away from giving the main character like a cloak
of kind of invincible. You know what I mean?
Just the the bridge scene, Tom Cruise running out to the bridge
and he can't die yet. So like he just doesn't get
shot. Feel like Movies Now like kind
of shy away from that and make the main character, the
protagonist, like actually think of a way to survive.
I feel like anyways, I just thought, OK, so I watched this
video from history buffs. I'm not about to to take credit
of it, but I'll just give like a quick relapse.
So pretty much what happened was samurai or the Japanese were
pretty much like isolated from the rest of the world out of
choice. They just wanted to like kind of
do their own thing. On an island, right?
And so, but then the United States of America was just like,
Nope, that's not happening. And so this guy named Matthew
Perry pulls up to the shores of some Japanese island.
When was this? What year?
Like around what time? Around like the time that we're
seeing. So like kind of Confederate
time. What is this like 1870?
1876 and 1877. Yeah.
So, yeah, around that time. And I think the samurai are
actually like already kind of being cut down by by the people
anyway. So Matthew Perry is this
American and he shows up with four ships, 4 insane battleships
that the Japanese have never seen anything like.
And so they're already like, what?
And he says, hey, you have a few months to agree to our terms or
we will force you to, but we just want you all to start
trading with us, you know? And so then he goes away.
They're horrified because they're like, holy, We've never
seen ships like that before. What?
And then Matthew Perry comes back when he says he would with
like 10 more ships. And they pretty much they're
like, Yep, we'll do it. We agree not much of A battle.
The samurai in this movie kind. I think they they're like a
respected people absolutely, but in reality, like the common
people hated them because like samurai were like high class.
So the samurai really just didn't want to lose their
superior status. And.
Also, I think samurai like could, if they felt insulted by
the common folk, they could just kill them with no, no
consequences. And I think that so at this time
though, there's like, well, in real time, there was 200 years
of peace and so the samurai just essentially aren't needed
anymore. So they're like not being paid
as much for being samurai. And the common folk, in the
meantime, are like. Making money they're.
Building all this, and then once the United States shows up, they
kind of realize, like, OK, instead of isolating ourselves
from the world, we need to learn as much as we can, you know,
from Western civilization. So they brought in like a lot of
people in the Japanese, like see it.
Today they. Very smart.
Very technologically advanced, yeah.
Civilized, yeah. Civilization wise like.
They advanced very, very quickly and they did just that.
Like back in this time they, I think what we were able to
accomplish in like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years,
they did it very quickly. Yeah.
And you kind of show that because?
That's sort of the theme of this movie is how the samurai culture
is dying out to the modern world.
They even show you that through the city because in that city
they show up to whenever Tom Cruise rise into town with the
guys to get dropped off. It still looks like an old
original Japanese town. However, there's telephone lines
going through it, so you can see that technology is starting to
invade. You see natural way of the
Japanese people. Yeah, you see white people.
Just in the crowd as well. But like, it's just, it's kind
of a Western modern society. The old, the old way.
Is dying right? Or maybe getting invaded, yeah.
So but like the. Samurai were feeling kind of
annoyed that these common folk that were kind of below them,
they're starting to make that money now because they just,
they're advancing technologically.
Businesses are kind of going through the roof because the
economy is literally just booming right now because we are
Japan is just advancing so much. And so, but the samurai were
like too honourable to join the common folk, or at least like it
was looked down upon for some, for somebody to be like, all
right, I don't want to be a samurai.
I want to like go build something or go learn how to
build like a business of some sort.
So that was happening. So that was like, really what
was going on? It wasn't like a mass genocide
of just like a peaceful people. Yeah, I I did see something
that. Said the samurai.
This has a very much idealized version of the samurai, but the
Japanese people actually saw them as a little bit more
corrupted. They weren't these perfect
warriors that were at peace and just the perfect kind of
representation of Japanese culture.
Like they were brutal. And, you know, they were
obviously warriors. And when you're bred to be a
warrior, you're going to be super aggressive, probably not
going to be that moral cause your job is to kill.
Yeah. And you see yourself.
As better than everybody. So like in the movie, you see
the Imperial soldiers beating up on Kozmoto's Katsumoto.
Katsumoto's son. And they cut off his ponytail in
the movie. Obviously, it looks horrible.
And, you know, they just look like they're the bad guys.
But like, these dudes have been, you know, probably getting made
fun of and beat up by the samurai for a long time.
So like, maybe there's a little bit of payback there, you know,
So just a little bit. A little bit.
Also, Samurai did use guns. They did.
Yes. They did in real life.
They've been using them for like 200 years at this point.
So that was like a. Creative liberty that I didn't
quite understand that they had to take didn't have to do that.
In fact, I think they could have even shown the samurai not only
using guns, but like they could have just been surprisingly
better than the comic folk which outnumbered them.
But like the samurai are also way better at using guns and
proficient with swords so like you could have used that rather
than just the dumb idea of them being like like.
We fight with honor. I see the reasoning for taking
it. Out just to try to show the vast
differences in what's coming versus what was.
Yeah, I did. Too, But yeah, this.
Wouldn't, I mean, honestly, to keep that going, they could have
been using older guns as they probably would have been, and
then the Gatling gun comes out and that fucking wipes them.
I'm just thinking of. Like the actual Japanese in 2003
seeing this movie and they're like fucking Americans dude.
Actually they loved it. This.
This movie, I think it made more money in Japan than it did in
the States. OK.
Well, OK, then I say incorrect. Nothing to say there's this kind
of. Hollywood.
Well, they probably do. Appreciate the samurai being
showed in like an honorable way. It wasn't like they also like,
besides kind of that scene of The Imperials beating up on him
and cutting off his ponytail. You do see, like, a lot of
respect for the culture. I also like, really, I'm just a
big fan of the director going in the direction of, like, all the
Japanese people do talk to each other in Japanese.
Yeah. Didn't have to do that.
They could have all just been speaking English with accents.
But I like that. I wish the emperor at the end
when he was like. Talking to the people.
When Tom Cruise is down there, he wish he would have spoken
Japanese, not English. He's like final speech to the
people. Yeah, that's true.
But. There's this Hollywood.
Cliche, it's kind of thing that they call it a white savior.
There's been a bunch of movies like this where it like Dances
with Wolves where there's like a native people that are getting
threatened and about to get wiped out by the Western culture
in America, whatever the white people.
And then there's one white guy that goes in and like, saves
them, you know, like. That this is the white.
Savior is what they call this kind of cliche that happens in
Hollywood. This is a similar type of thing,
but Edswick kind of helped. I think he kind of avoided it as
much as he could because it's really about the samurai
changing Nathan Tom Cruise's character.
Like Tom Cruise doesn't save them.
I think the one scene that you. Could say that's kind of like
that Cliche is whenever he's, you know, holding the sword up
and it's like about their way and everything and he kind of
shows them that this is the right way.
But that's really, that's really the the way of the.
Samurai like lives on. Yes, I think that's probably
why. The Japanese people liked it
because it wasn't as much of that white saviour type of movie
I like. Yeah, I like that.
Take. That's good.
It makes sense, Yeah. Because at one point, Katsumoto
Yeah. Let's just keep it on the.
Screen Katsumoto tells him he was like the way of the samurai
is not necessary anymore. And Nathan at this point has
seen like what a western battle looks like and how just awful it
is and how much war has just like essentially ruined him, his
spirit as a man. And he says necessary.
It's never been more necessary, you know, for at least like.
Like honor and. Discipline.
And discipline, yeah. Like it's.
It literally saved my life. Yeah.
You know, So like, this needs to be taught to people.
This needs to be carried on in some way.
So I like that. Yeah.
Here's one thought that I had about.
The ending that I was critiquing what what how Tom Cruise like
bows out in the Emperor and then he says I'll take my own life.
I'll happily take my own life. It's like we're not a samurai
really. Like, why would why are you just
giving into this when you just you literally just try to stop
Katsumoto from doing it. But then maybe he just changed
his mind. Whatever my argument for it
though, I'm I'm starting to get in your.
Head now the argument for it though.
Would be that. He probably knew the Emperor.
Wouldn't let him do that. So it's more he's saying that as
more of a reminder of the way. Like maybe he doesn't like
literally mean that, but he's saying it as like a jab to just
remind the emperor of like what it's about.
If this white dude's willing to do this, you're and you're not,
that's a huge problem. Like if I'm born, if I came into
the way as a new man, white man, not even from this culture, but
still embedded myself into it and you're a part of this
culture and didn't. He's kind of like giving him a
shot just to remind him, kind of like what Katsumoto says to the
emperor's like, excuse me, I'm sorry for having to talk to you
like a teacher, but have you forgotten your people's way?
He says something like that. Yeah.
And so I think Tom Cruise maybe is sort of talking to him as a
teacher in that moment. Well, and there's also.
Kind of it just shows how Nathan, his character, has
changed so much because Nathan has been wanting to die since
you see him in the beginning of the movie.
And Katsumoto, like, also wants to die, but for the right
reason, for honor. He says it multiple times, like,
if the emperor wishes for me to die, all he has to do is tell me
to, like, I will die. And he keeps, like, kind of
saying like, no, like, he died a good death.
Yeah, honorable, dying on the battlefield, just all of these
things. So for Nathan.
But Nathan sees it differently. He just sees death putting him
out of his misery. Like his time on earth sucks.
He just wants to die. He just want, you know, he's
ready for it to end. And Katsumoto is like, no life
is precious, but when your time comes, you should see it as just
that, just OK, this is a great life that I lived and, you know,
no regrets, all that. So him offering his life to the
emperor, I think it's just kind of him showing like I will.
Appreciate all my. Days now, and I appreciate
everything that I've learned. But if now is my time, then now
is my time. Yeah.
OK, that made me. Think now maybe the reason why
they had Nathan live in the end is really because if he would
have died, that would have fulfilled what he wanted the
entire time. And that doesn't show his
change. Yeah, because it you could have
had the thought maybe when he goes into battles like, oh, he
got killed, he just did this because he just wanted to die.
So he joined the samurai to go fight.
You know, that wouldn't really be shown, but that could be like
a little subtextual thing you can maybe infer and like cop
out. I see, I see that take.
All the way. I like it.
I just think it was more it would have been more redeeming
for him to die with a tribe rather than killing it and
exterminating it. Yeah.
Do you wish she kind of. I would do wish she died.
Yeah, Nice. There you go.
Would have been better would. Have been better now here's
another thing that could have happened bad if they would have
had him die is that then the emperor would like had because
he's the main character you want to see a closure about his
character it's all about him and his character works and then at
the end they would have to say something about him like
honoring him then that would have been the white savior he's
like we honored the. White man for saving.
Us from this samurai way, you know, like committing to our
ways. So that could have been a issue
there maybe. But yeah, they make a statue of
Tom. Cruise.
Yeah, Tom Cruise would. Probably like.
Yeah, he should probably. Nathan should probably get a
statue. Yeah, they probably love him.
He wants. A Rocky Balboa statue in Japan.
Oh boy. All right, here's a crazy.
Story from this movie. So I think it's the first battle
and I don't think we actually see it in the movie.
However, there's a scene they filmed where Nathan and what's
and Yujio are barreling toward each other on horses.
And so in this scene, Yujio supposed to swing his sword and
Tom Cruise horse are handing a duck and then avoid the hit.
That's how he survives that battle.
However, when they filmed it, when they started running, they
were on mechanical horses as they were running toward each
other, and Tom Cruise's mechanical horse malfunctioned
and didn't duck on time. And hold on.
Let's. Let's get this name right.
Yujio. Yeah.
But his actor's. Name Hiroyuki.
Hiroyuki Donata, I believe how you say it.
Here Here dude got no clue I'm. Just as bad as Colonel Bagley.
The Hiroyuki Sonata. Defense I couldn't get.
Colonel Bagley's name right though either so so Hiroyuki.
Sonata. He's a martial artist.
He's trained that he's a big. They call him actually the Tom
Cruise of Japan. Not even kidding.
They were just pretty sick. The Japanese people or maybe the
studios or whoever had this thought, thought it was wrong
that he wouldn't be the emperor because he's he's such a popular
star in Japan, but he still. Signed on as a.
Side character to the emperor as as they kind of showed a sign of
respect. Like I want him to be the
emperor. Think it's a good pick
regardless. So he's a skilled martial
artist, athlete, whatever. And so during that scene when
Tom Cruise's horse malfunction, he was already in full swing.
Now they're not. They're not using sharp swords.
It's a dull sword, but still a full swing for acting from a
martial arts guy that knows how to make it look real and is
doing it real. That would have sliced Tom
Cruise's face guaranteed and is heading straight for his
straight for his face. They say neck or face, we don't
really know. It's just a story here.
But he swung and they said because of the mechanical bull
stop and he's such a skilled guy.
He stopped literally like an inch from his face, full swing
and like paused and stopped right in front of his face like
a real samurai. And it saved Tom Cruise's face
would have gotten fucking chopped, maybe even killed.
I wonder what? Tom Cruise's reaction would have
been to that, so they they asked him about it.
Because the story goes is that it was about to chop off his
head. You know, they're going to pump
up the story a bit, right? And so.
When they told. Tom Cruise about her, He
commented on it. He started laughing.
He's like my neck. He's like, it wasn't going to be
my neck. He's like, right inches from my
nose, like it's about to hit my face.
Appreciate that, Tom. Yeah.
He's like, that's funny. It wasn't my nose, come on.
It wasn't my neck, come on. It was like, really about my
nose. I'm just saying.
Does Tom? Cruise appreciate a good scar
across the face or does Tom Cruise hate a scar across the
face? He needs a picture.
Picture perfect face for all the roles.
He fixed that in makeup though. Not a scar.
I don't know if he can. Do.
I mean, yeah, you could, but now you want the scars to be
artificial for your role. I know.
I'm just saying, like, does Tom Cruise get a scar and he's like,
yeah, Hollywood baby, we're making a movie?
Or is he like, how a face? God, no, probably that.
OK. Hollywood.
Actor. They need perfect faces.
For every role. But if he plays a guy that's not
a war veteran, you got to explain the scar now or he
doesn't get cast. Would have been OK for.
Ethan Hunt, True. It is.
Interesting to see like Tom Cruise played like so many
dramatic roles and then he did just go Mission Impossible.
It wouldn't have been good for Les.
Grossman. Makeup they did.
They already had done their makeup.
Fat face. Yeah, yeah, man, let me.
This is so so. I was watching the behind some
behind the scenes footage of this and you will hear the, like
set designer talking about how they really made this thing
peaceful. And they love how the buildings
are structured within the valley to like really sculpt the land,
you know, talking really how it's meaningful when you hear
Tom Cruise talking about working with the characters and the
actors and how beautiful it was. And then it will cut to like the
guys that are like the the the gun prop guys.
And they're like, it's just a bunch of country boys.
And they're like, yeah, we got like 150 guns.
We got like 150 rubber guns. We got ninja stars.
Really. Yes.
Can we throw this video up? Because that, that's what I'm
talking about. That's the beauty of the film
industry. I mean, you throw in everybody
together, I won't be able to pull it.
Because it's a it's like a long ass video and like to get the
full game but. If you watch the behind.
The scenes footage, you'll hear like all these beautiful things
about how the theme and the beauty of the movie and the
story is so deep and it just will cut to the behind to the
prop guys. Like we got so many fucking
guns. It's the best.
There's a bunch of country boys so high about their ninja stars.
They gave us a bunch we got. 30 cannons in here, he's like, we
got real cannons. There's actually.
A real fire in cannons. He's like, yeah, they're just
describing all their guns. Nothing about the meaning of the
movie, just how badass their arsenal is.
That's what. That's what I'm.
Talking about and you know what, because they're they're that's
perfect though, because this movie like, let me tell you
this. Obviously, like I appreciate the
fighting scenes all of that, because it's makes for a Great
War movie and I think they do a really good job of showing it.
I think it looks great. I'll say this, though, I could
have watched 10 hours of Tom Cruise just living peacefully
with the samurai. I swear to God, I never wanted
to leave. In fact, and I not kidding when
I say this last yesterday I watched it and there's like a
storm on the horizon. But like I still, I, I could
tell that I had like a good hour.
I was just living in peace and like in this and I paused the
movie because I knew like I it's about to get bad at some point.
I paused it. I was like.
No Phone? No.
Distractions I just took foxy for like this really nice walk.
It was it felt really good and like I just I turn, I turn my
phone on DND and just no music, no nothing, just listen to like
the wind, the Thunder, just the wind.
I could feel the storm. And then like, I got back to my
place and I was like, I just was so responsible.
I like, did the dishes, cleaned my room, cleaned my bathroom,
did laundry. That's the gayest way to watch
The Last Samurai. All all in.
Silence. I took a cold shower because I
was like samurai. I don't take a shower bro.
And. Then, like, proceeded to watch
the end of the movie, and, yeah, that's hilarious.
I forgot what my point was. Oh, yeah.
Tom Cruise just living in peace and harmony with the samurai.
Tom Cruise somehow bringing baseball into his characters.
Somehow you get Tom Cruise. Yeah.
Bringing baseball. To the samurai, I just well
done, of course. And it not that's not that's
literally not a knock. I just I think that's so
hilarious. Tom Cruise was like.
He should play baseball, no? Tom, he should, yeah.
The director being like. No, Tom, like no more.
No baseball in The Last Samurai. He's like, you're wrong.
And there should be, there should be baseball.
They'd love it. Yeah, everybody loves baseball.
So love that. Love it.
There's a, there's a small detail, but a significant
detail. When they're taking Tom Cruise
into the town, all the samurai riding in a town with them, They
don't have Nathan riding in the middle of them like they're
transporting him. He rides on the side of them
alongside them. So he's among them.
You know, he, I think that's why the, what's his name?
The freaking photographer guy. The translator.
I think that's probably why he's.
Like smiling and happy to see him because it's like, oh,
you're not a part of these people.
I'm so interested to probably just write a book about you
because I'm about to do that. Yeah, I think that.
Also is why he's smiling, he sees him like damn, he is alive.
Like everybody thought he was dead.
But he's not only alive, he's a samurai.
This guy, he's got some. Bad ass life.
Yeah, yeah. But it's just cool that they
have him. You know, they, because they put
him in the middle, He's like, he's a prisoner and they're
dropping off their prisoner. But at this point, he's no
longer a prisoner. He's among them.
He's became a samurai, essentially.
Yeah. So he rides alongside him and
they just, like, leave him there, like, right.
See you later. They also they don't put him in
the. Front, which I like that, like
that you see the Samurai and then like on the third shot I
think is when you see Tom Cruise again kind of suggesting that.
He is with the he is with the samurai.
Yeah, he's no better than them. He's just one of them.
Yeah, yeah, I liked it. I I, I loved the tone of it,
which is why not the biggest fan of them bowing to kind of him at
the end. No, that's the Katamoto it.
Is it is. It is, but I bet when Tom Cruise
was real life sitting there and they were all bound to him, I
bet he was like, yeah, this this movie's going to sell.
This movie's going to make a lot of money.
I'm I'm the center of it. Yeah, bro, he's on an.
Insane run. Insane run this time.
I know, I know. Bangers at the bangers, I don't
mean. To talk shit about Tom.
Cruise. I don't even think I am think, I
don't think I'm talking shit about Tom Cruise.
Yeah, it's funny. It's funny.
We're just, yeah, we're. Just goofing around, just
joshing. Yeah, I'm just.
Joshing everybody. Relax, Love Tom Cruise.
Should we rate The Last Samurai? Let's do it.
All right. What?
Do you have For the Last Samurai all right?
For The Last Samurai. We'll start from the top, acting
9 out of 10. Great performances from
everybody. No 10 out of 10.
No 10 out of 10, just 9. Out of 10, why not?
Just 9. Out there instead, this one's a
nine out of 10 riding 7 out of 10.
Explain myself and clearly on that.
Also, another thing that I forgot to mention, I think it
makes it kind of funny. I don't think it's necessarily
bad riding, but like at the beginning his boss firing him
before he goes out on stage to give his last speech.
Horrible move. That's just bad.
Business. That's just a bad businessman in
like, hey to my clearly traumatized hammered.
You know war. Warrior.
Yeah, Veteran that has clearly killed people.
He's really good with a gun. You're fired before you go and
give your last speech. Just bad business.
Now go outperform bitch. Yeah.
Now go out there. You're.
Fired though. But go out there, you have
nothing to lose. He has.
Nothing to lose, Yeah, just bad business.
Riding 7 out of 10, editing 9 out of 10.
I think it's great. Fight scenes awesome.
I also just think like the feeling of the movie, like I
said, like the peace and prosperous times.
Not often in a war movie. Is that what like kind of keeps
me intrigued in the story? But I, and I think that's kind
of a risky thing that they do with this movie is like, you do
get to just watch him in peacetime, which is not
something that you're expecting out of a samurai war movie.
But they do it really well. And I, I think it, it just looks
great. And I think it still keeps the
audience into the movie, into the story, 'cause they're he's
with samurai living in peace for like a good chunk of the movie.
Yeah, yeah. So that's I think.
That's risky, but respect. Respect.
Yeah. So good on them.
Cinematography, like I said, nothing special.
I think it's solid, though. There's some some beautiful
shots and they 7 out of 10, you know, it's I think it's just
overall, like very solid, but nothing that really just stands
out to me. And then enjoyability. 8 out of
10. I I really, really like this
movie. I really do.
It's a good movie. So it's a 8 out of 10.
It's a very solid movie. Nice.
I have. Acting 10 out of 10 I think
everybody brought it. Great performances, beautiful
writing. 8.5 out of 10 again knocked it for that ending.
A little corny, a little bit corny.
Editing 10 out of 10 I think the editing really shines through
with the like battle scenes that kind of ties into cinematography
as well. But like you it's chaotic.
However you can see the action still, like I love the shot
whenever they're running like the the cameras still when you
see the people on the ground battling and the horses are just
like flying by. It's like blurry within the the
focus subject, which is just cool.
And so cinematography 9 out of 10 and then enjoyability 10 out
of 10. I could watch this movie
whenever nice. So my.
Total score for the. Last Samurai is a 9.50, yeah.
Respect. I kind of forget how much I like
Tom Cruise. You forget.
Every time you watch a movie. You're like, he's fucking the
man. Yeah, I mean, you know, he's big
deal and you know, the Mission Impossible movies, they're not
like quite my thing, except for quite except for Fallout not.
Quite my tempo. Fallout's quite your.
Tempo. Remember that one Fallout?
That was the second one? No, no, no.
Third one. The 6th 1.
It's good. Yeah.
No, no, no. You don't remember, but me and
you both are like that is clearly the best one I've ever
seen. OK.
I'm still, I think at that point I'd kind of lost my mind.
Henry. Henry Cavill, No.
No, no, I know which one it is. And it was awesome.
You're right. It's awesome.
But the second and third one, those are, those are the ones
that I remember, yeah. I.
Will I will bleed for the flag to stay red?
It's like one of the quotes. Oh yeah, yeah, that's right.
Anyways. Wrote something because it also.
Yeah, a haiku, which, you know, I'm just a dumb American.
So when I think like, oh, it's the Japanese and he's writing a
poem, I bet it's a haiku. No, it's not.
But I wrote a haiku about this movie.
Yeah. What is a haiku?
711 Seven no haiku is. 575 that's a mess that's.
What I meant I got the numbers wrong.
Yeah, yeah. That's, that's.
What the haiku is from Japan? And so whenever Katsumoto
delivers his last line, I was like, it's not a haiku.
I never actually said it was the last line.
You just were like, there's the last line I think.
It's definitely what they carve in the sword.
It's. Definitely the last line of his.
Poem. He's been trying to figure out
the last line of the poem and then Nathan says what does it
mean? And then it rhymes with the
former. Line.
It's the last line of the poem, no doubt.
Do you think they just left that open-ended?
All right, What's your what's your poem?
A tiger roars. Loud Tom Cruise is now Samurai.
Tom Cruise is. Tiger that's.
What you came up with bro? Are you laughing at me?
Only it's that was pretty good time out, time out.
You don't want me to laugh at Tom Cruise, is Tiger.
You're telling me that is peak poetry right there.
Do we need to? I mean.
Let's count it out. A tiger roars loud 5 syllables.
Tom Cruise is now samurai, Samurai, samurai.
Sure. Three, depends on how you say
it. Seven, for the sake of haiku,
Tom Cruise is Tiger. Tiger's one syllable.
No, it's not. OK.
And. So we wrapped that up real
quick. Maybe you?
Don't like my haiku? But you need to go back to
school. I remembered.
Holy shit dude. Live on the podcast and in the
midst of this conversation, you can't even edit it out.
It's OK, I edit it out. The poems never seen the light
of day. Oh no, my phone.
My. Haiku has to see the light of
day. Wow, Tiger.
One syllable. Tiger by Kade Harvey.
Oh God, we got that. Tom Cruise is Tiger.
I'm glad you picked the last. Samurai.
Wow, all of that to get that beautiful.
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