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In this episode, we are breaking down.
And literally just watched. Saving Private Ryan The most
brutal opening 20 minutes maybe of all time.
Yeah, I feel like that old man. I'm kind of with him right
there. No, I mean that is like, is this
not the most the best World War 2 movie?
Is this not it was. I don't know what even.
Fury is pretty good. I was thinking I would.
I hated that. I was like kind of comparing
Fury to to Saving Private Ryan. What?
What is this competing against? What we got against Saving
Private Ryan? Saving Ryan's privates.
Saving Ryan's Private. Which is also kind of true,
actually. They are, in a sense, saving
Ryan's privates. Yeah, I was more I, I think
there's like a porn movie called Saving Ryan's Privates that came
out shortly after this. Movie.
You saw it. I didn't see it.
I'm just saying, what are we? Talking about Inglourious
Basterds is the best World War Two movie.
That no, I'm saying best depiction of World War Two that
is a. Depiction.
Hitler's in it for real. I I just like the the fact that
that opening 20 minutes actually had old men that were in World
War 2 like walking out of the theater.
They were like, what the? Fuck yeah, like.
That's insane. Everybody commanded Spielberg
for just how realistic he made that, and we're we're thanking
him for thanking him for not sparing the gore or the violence
of that day as it was the bloodiest day in World War Two.
Yeah. What was it?
How many people, How many men died on that battlefield?
I I'm not a history buff like that, I could not tell you.
I'm going to guess thousands. Approximately 2400 U.S. troops
were killed, wounded or missing on Omaha Beach on June 6th,
1944. While total casualties for the
day are often cited, some estimates specifically indicated
on OK they they just repeat themselves.
Total casualty. Total casualty.
Shit dude by the National World War 2 museum cited over 10,000
total ally casualties on D-Day. Not even not counting the Nazis
and the Germans and whoever else is fighting with the.
German, that's just, that's just American, that's just the
American side. Ally side.
OK back to the competitors of World War 2 movies.
Banner Brothers. Not a movie but in mini series I
have. Sorry I haven't seen it.
It's good. I've heard it's incredible.
It's good. I saw it a few years ago.
It's good to really, yes, it's it's really good.
The Dirty Dozen. The Great Escape.
It's a good one that makes World War Two look cool, though.
Yeah, that like for me that just.
I just want to go hang out with those guys.
You. You want to sign up for what
they went through. Yeah, I almost just want to be a
prisoner of war, which that is just not the case.
Flags of our fathers. Is it bad that I think the idea
of like World War 2 vets going into a movie theater and being
like having PTSD and like kind of freaking out and having to
get out. It's kind of funny that kind of
that's pretty, I mean, I know actually I'm, I'm not really
asking if that is bad. I know that's bad.
It is bad, but it. It is kind of funny if you think
about. When you don't think about what
they actually went through, you just think about what it just
that. Just surface level of just like
a bunch of old men in theater and like.
Start fighting the guy next to him.
That's fucked up. This isn't so disrespectful.
So disrespectful. Just joking.
Kind of make light of this horrible situation.
OK, yeah. So like to just be perfectly
honest. So I watched this movie like a
few years ago. I think I was.
I think I was 19. Like for the first time no.
No, no, no. I'd seen it when I was a kid and
I remember. Every time you say I watch this
movie a couple years ago, I'm like for the first time.
And every time you're like, no. No, no, no, no, no, no.
I so I saw it when I was a kid because I was really big in the
military movies like back then. Yeah.
So this movie as like a child was like, fuck yeah, that's
cool. This movie at age 19.
Draft age. Also, yeah, like prime draft
age, I was also like kind of, you know, I was under a little
bit of substance at that time. And so I was really, I was
really high, just baked out of my watch or baked out of my
mind. Watching a movie.
Horrible high movie. Oh my God, dude.
Just like, because you don't realize like how long this scene
and the end fight scene, that's like they're like 25 minutes
long. That's like an almost an hour of
this movie is just the bloodbath of those two scenes.
And so, yeah, like in my head, I'm watching it and it just,
it's so real. It's literally, it's so real.
And I like had to turn it off. I was like, what the fuck?
Yeah. Like in my head I'm like, that
could have been me. Mind you, it didn't happen that
long ago. Not.
Really, in retrospect, like World War 2 is not that long.
It's our grandfathers, basically.
Yeah, I mean, I didn't have for me, I think that would have
messed me up even more. I didn't have any like relatives
that I knew that far more War 2. I mean, I'm sure I do, but I
don't. My my relatives were Vietnam,
which still not good. Still, like, I think kind of the
same premise of like my grandpa did not talk about Vietnam.
I never heard him talking about Vietnam.
I don't imagine that if I had any relatives that fought World
War Two, I would hear anything that they had to say about it
either. Do you imagine hearing some
stories about Vietnam? Right.
Like it was just something like my grandpa.
It was just like unspoken, understood.
We don't ask about that. Yeah, we don't talk about that.
Yeah, we don't talk about World War 2 to anybody that, like you
would have known that was in World War Two.
Yeah. So the fact that Spielberg just
actually fucking put it on the screen?
His father fought in World War 2 and so he said it was like I
think he actually fought on D-Day, like he was in Normandy
fighting oh God. And he did it like a as a
tribute to him. And he had no aspirations to
have his be a blockbuster. He didn't care about it being
making money. He wanted to show the world like
he. Just he wanted to pay respect to
that to his father, you know, and to everybody that fought
that day. And he even said because he was
going to make a super violent and bloody as that was always a
plan. And so he said if it got an NC
17 rating, he wouldn't trim anything out to make an R.
He just wouldn't have less people watch it.
Like, I don't care if it's NC 17.
That's just what the movie is. And we have to be honest about
what happened that day to show everybody and give a as close to
understanding as we can through a movie about how brutal this
was and what real men, our countrymen, went through two
generations ago, two to three generations ago.
It is Oh my God. I mean, any nails obviously,
like the that intro scene is just, it's as brutal as it ever
get. I I don't think we can really
think of a realistic depiction that matches well again, because
it's like 25 minutes long too. Yeah, it's all handheld.
You're getting blood on the lenses.
Like they just left all of that in there.
But the it's interesting though, that you know, the that the
brutality of that happens and then later on in the movie, the
brutality happens again. Then the rest of it is like
almost them just like kind of going through like beautiful.
What? They're in France.
I don't know if they're in Germany.
Yeah, right. Omaha is France.
Yeah, we suck. But like it's more it's like
it's just not as bloody as you think.
Like you get through that 1st 2025 minutes and you're probably
nervous. You're like, Oh my God, like is
this what the whole movie is going to be 'cause you go into
you're like, oh damn. It's like almost a three hour
movie in theaters. I think Spielberg did the thing
that Alfred Hitchcock did as well where he was like, yeah,
for Psycho. Yeah for Psycho, where it's like
if you come into this theater, you can't get up and leave.
You have to stay for the whole thing to get the full effect.
Or no, I think it maybe that was a rule, but I know one of the
rules that Hitchcock did and Spielberg was you can't coming
to this movie late. Yeah, once.
The movie starts. Nobody's allowed in.
Yeah, OK, you guys, you got it. You can't just jump in halfway
for this movie. You got to see the whole thing.
Like, you know, for a Hitchcock move.
You can't jump in with the twist at the end or whatever the
reveal he wants to have. Yeah, because you didn't even
understand like the the back story.
Yeah, of of how insane the twist.
Is I think, actually I think I saw this recently, that
Hitchcock is the reason why. Or yeah, Hitchcock is the reason
why there's like, showtimes and you have like, a ticket to get
into the movie. You know, you can't get into the
theater until your movie starts because back in the day,
apparently you people just walked into the theater and sat
down. They got a ticket to go and they
sat down and they could watch like the end of a movie before
their movie started. Gross.
Like you didn't have to start come there at the start of your
movie. So Hitchcock was like, that's
why he had to say that when Psycho was out.
He's like, you can't come to this movie halfway and see the
ending before you even saw the beginning.
There's no walking in at the end or in the middle.
You got to be there for the whole thing.
That's just a disgusting thought to me.
And that I think that then changed how they did movie like
movie, how theaters worked. Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Hitchcock, dude, Thank you. Thank you, Movie gods, for
Hitchcock. So the Normandy scene, obviously
the most insane part of this movie.
Here's some crazy facts about them filming the storming of
Normandy. OK, Spielberg had no
storyboarding for that entire scene.
Yeah, I'd heard about that. No planning.
He just shot what he felt was right.
And he kept moving up the beach day by day, like they progressed
through the chute by moving up the beach day by day.
And it took them four weeks to do it.
Yeah. So for four weeks, they're just
running and gunning, moving closer and closer and closer up
the beach. So it's crazy that you say that
because I've seen an interview where he or maybe we talked
about it or Spielberg was like, yeah, like sometimes I love
showing up to a set, not having a plan for the day and then just
like kind of figuring it out. Didn't realize that he was
talking about Saving Private Ride.
Yeah, he talked about it was at the South by Southwest interview
he did. Is that when he was talking
about that with the big picture? OK, so you show me that video.
Probably or just talked about it or something.
Yeah, I had no idea who was talking about the fucking
Normandy. Yeah, storming Normandy.
I mean, he's done it multiple times, he says.
But like, he sometimes likes to plan and like, be meticulous
about what he's going to shoot that day.
But sometimes she likes to show up and she'd be like, what can I
come up with? OK, but like.
On the day, just what are we going?
To do, but like if you're shooting handheld, bro, you get
like a lot of stuff happening in these shots You like you see
dudes blowing up while in the same shot, like cutting to a guy
like carrying his arm. Yeah.
So like you're essentially telling me like they got lucky.
Which helps kind of though, because it's chaotic, you know,
you don't really have a core framing.
It's just it's crazy. So it gives you that sense of
the feeling of chaos it is. It works for sure, but it also
just like blows my mind that Spielberg like was literally
running a set like this. Like how many?
How many stormings did they do? I kind of wondered if planning
would have made it not as impactful because if they have
like clean shots, like, you know, sweeping, cool moving
shots and like, you know, getting be able to get creative
before you get there and like feel the day and try to imagine
what that. I mean, I'm sure you're
imagining it when you're storyboarding, but being on the
day, seeing it, everybody's dressed up, you have people on
set explosions happening, then you kind of can put your mind a
little bit easier into that soldiers mind and feel the chaos
versus storyboarding planning. You might get too creative and
make it too smooth. I mean you probably planning to
be crazy but just the pre planning would probably had a
little too much control with the scene and having no control and
just free flowing that day or for the four weeks dominant
definitely helps it make it feel chaotic.
I mean, just thinking about what you see on the screen, this is
one of those where it's like, imagine seeing what Spielberg
did just in person on set that day.
It had to have been even crazier.
Think about the things they didn't get on camera.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, they 4 weeks they filmed
all day probably. I think I heard.
Not for four weeks straight, but it's taken for a week still.
But you're filming a lot. There's a ton of footage.
I think Spielberg like traumatized quite a few people
because I think he had World War 2 vets that showed up to this
set, probably the whole movie specifically.
Like for this one, he was like, hey, I want you all to know, I'm
trying to get this to look real. Think about if you're a World
War 2 vet, you have seen all the World War 2 movies probably
because then you just know, like, like they never really get
it. They never actually come close
to making me remember, like, oh, this is that.
Wow. That is that is what that looked
like. So these vets are like, oh,
sure. Like we will come, you know,
check it out and see how it looks.
And then Spielberg does that. Yeah.
Like I heard that World War 2 vets had to leave set because
they were like Oh my God. Like that is what?
That is literally what that looked.
Like there's one story about a the German dub version.
Whoever was dubbing the movie for the that Normandy storming
home obese scene, he backed out after doing it because he's
like, I can't because I think he fought that day.
He's like a German guy that fought that day.
I guess. I would guess he's the Nazi side
if he's a German anyway. I mean I guess.
But he was supposed to be the dub for the German version and
he couldn't do it. Yeah, he like literally quit.
He's like, I'm not doing it. Yeah, like I, you're asking me
to go back to that day to get like, I, even if you're not
asking me to do that naturally, like I'm going to go back to
that place and you're going to get exactly what I sound like.
And I don't want to hear that. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
Spielberg also personally held a camera for most of the shots in
that, which is not common for a director.
And they have their cinematographers and the camera
OPS doing all the work. They're just directing the show.
But he wanted to hold the camera and get the action, which is,
you know, again, yeah, he has no storyboard.
So, you know, you probably want to be like, I need the camera.
Like, I don't know what I want to get.
We're going to find out when I look at it.
Yeah. Use over 1000 extras including
some members of the Irish Army Reserve when some of those guys
because they filmed it in Ireland on the beaches of
Ireland because France didn't let them film at Normandy.
That makes sense. Yeah, like we don't want to
recreate. That yeah, we can't do this
again. So.
They filmed it in Ireland where it looks pretty similar and so
they had some of the Army Reserve guys be there as some of
the extras to fight a soldiers and some of those guys were
amputees and so they put like prosthetics on them before they
blew off their legs. Yeah, I'd heard of.
I'd heard of that. Yeah, before they bloodied up
their nubs, two of the landing crafts at the Omaha Beach were
actually used in World War 2 that they rolled up on.
Like 2 of them were legitimately World War 2 landing crafts.
The gunfire was real, like real sound effects from real World
War 2 weapons. So they weren't like faking it
with making sounds fake. They actually recorded and shot
real World War 2 weapons to make it sound as realistic as
possible. Which might bring back some of
the flashback reason. You know the PTSD flashbacks
because you're hearing the actual weapons you heard that
day. I mean, in the movie too, it's,
it's kind of crazy how realistic it sounds.
You know what I didn't know, but I realized, like kind of looking
into this movie, I didn't realize that.
Spielberg also went on to make the Medal of Honor Games.
Yeah. He did, yeah.
And so while I'm watching this movie like multiple times, like
in all the fight scenes, like I hear the the I don't the just a
gun going like. Yeah, when the clip runs out,
yeah. And that took me back to like
kind of Call of Duty Medal of Honor Day, because I used to
play those games. And then I remember the very
famous Medal of Honor. I don't know which game it was,
but like, you do have the storming.
Yes, beaches of Normandy. I was like, Spielberg just did
it twice. Yeah, he just did it again, but
I had no idea. So Spielberg's doing pretty good
for himself. Yep, he's doing like a OK.
Capitalizing on World War 2 as much as possible.
Oh God, come on, we don't have to say it like that.
I'm I'm not meeting anything by it.
Take it out, you will. No, hey, he wanted, he literally
wanted to show people what it looks like.
So if you don't like movies and you play video games, Spielberg
still got you. Yep, got your ass.
They used 40 barrels of fake blood on the beach approach. 40
barrels of fake blood. What does a barrel think go for?
I mean, they literally made the ocean look like an oil spill of
blood. So I mean, it's clearly a lot.
How many gallons in a barrel? 42 gallons times 40.
Math. Not doing it today.
You do the math. We've had a long week,
everybody. And then they had a military
historian on set and he was there to help with keeping the
accuracy and and just being as a guide.
And Spielberg gave him a private screening of the movie when it
was finished and cut. And the guy had to leave the
movie theater after the 1st 20 minutes like take a break
because it was too intense for him and he couldn't hit like
regroup and then sat back down to finish the.
Movie 1 Listen. OK, one could make the argument
that Spielberg should have had an intermission like 20 minutes
into the movie. Yeah, take a breather.
Seriously, think about it. Nobody's ever done this.
Before, that's probably why you had to make why you had to make
the rest of the movie calm, because it was so brutal at the
beginning. Like you.
Need a break? You need a well, you need like a
2 hour break before yeah, the end of the movie.
Do it again, yeah. Before you we shell shock you
again. Yeah, but even I don't even.
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OK, so let me ask you this. Which one is more brutal, the
first scene or the last fight scene?
They both kind of have their respective parts.
The last scenes brutal because you watch your characters die.
Yeah, also you don't like I First off, I will say the first
scene is the most brutal scene. 'Cause you like open.
Like, yeah, that was more brutal because I think it's the first
thing you see. And also also we have heard
about this, you know, we've been taught this specific day our
entire lives. And so to see it on screen and
then for it to be confirmed by World War 2 vets that were like,
Oh my fucking God. Like that is what it looked
like. I think that's what makes it
more brutal. On the other hand, they have
like an objective to where it like kind of makes it satisfying
that there's like this specific plan of like, we're storming the
beach. We know we're all going to die
like you. It's insane if you don't die.
We got to get. Here and then we have to get up,
you know, but then on that second one, like they're
scrambling to where you, there's no actual firm objective.
You're essentially, I think all they're really doing is just
trying to hold it until somehow, yeah, you know, by miracle
reinforcements make it there. It's a Willy nilly plan.
They don't know who's coming, They just know that something's
coming. So like, here's our best.
Option so so every time a character moves from a building
to another building that they're pretty much improvising.
They they don't there's not like a actual set plan here.
They are literally just like Call of Duty zombies, like
you're just trying to survive as long as you can.
Like you, you don't. The next place that you go to
isn't a real objective. It's just like, OK, this
building is done for. Hopefully the next building
hasn't been taken over yet and you have no sense of direction.
I I guess that would be, yeah. It's so scary about it.
And the ending scene, you have the moment of the movie that
just pisses you off. You're like whenever the rider,
the guy that's their translator, won't go up the stairs.
Yeah, he's a save his boy. He's a real pussy.
You're just. Like tense, like.
Fucking what are you doing? Yeah.
I. So annoying.
It's like dude at this point how?
How are you freezing up now? Yeah, I don't have any
experience with this type of thing at all, but I can't see
where, you know, somebody's like somebody or your teammate that
you've been with as protected you is dying and you don't go
run up there, you have a gun. You have a gun.
Get the fucking get up. There.
Come on dude. Like I don't think your brain
can think I would assume. He's not just in survivor
instinct right now. Like, yeah.
Just fucking clicks and you're like, let's go.
You've seen horrible things already.
Now is not the time to have a conscience.
No, You've seen guys die. You've seen a lot of guys die.
So you're like. I don't know.
Has he killed anybody at this point?
I think that's like one of the things they do through the
movie, right? Yeah, he never even fired his
weapon. He kills one dude.
Was. Satisfying.
Realized this time I didn't. I've never realized it was.
First off, I think this is my third time watching this movie.
So first time I'm like 12, second time I'm 19.
Can't really remember the movie because I was just fucked up
over the first scene. So watching it this time, I did
not know that the German, the Nazi that they let go.
You didn't. Ends up being.
Yeah, I know there's. The whole point where he kills
him. I did not realize that that was
the same Nazi that kills Goldberg or I actually I don't
know. Wait, it is.
No, it's not. Yes, the German that stabs him.
That's the same one. Yes, it's the same one that
kills. I don't think it is.
I think he looks similar, but I don't think it's him.
Look right here. That's not him.
He would have recognized him because he walks past him.
He lets him go and then he sees him like, oh shit, that's you.
When he sees him shooting again, that's the first time he like
walks up. That guy.
This is the guy. That's the guy they let go.
No, this is the guy that killed Melish.
That's guy. Let that go.
That's two different people. Go back, go back.
OK, OK, yeah, I guess. I just thought he was like, I
don't want to kill you still. Like I, I don't know what
happened up there. I mean, I assume my buddy's dead
but. Because they have that moment
here where he's like, he sees him and he's like shocked.
Like this fucking guy did join back after he said he wouldn't.
And that's when he's like OPA and then BA killed him.
OK, so I knew that was the thing.
Yeah, Yeah. I just thought, oh, I see what
you mean. I see what you mean.
Yeah, they had that moment so that if you.
Know OK, all right so I got that one messed.
Up, but that does piss me the hell off watching that.
I mean, yeah, that's what the. Guy lives with after.
I mean, how do you? Well, I just, I never really
understood why in God's name they would let him go.
I get. I don't know it's the.
Moral thing to do? I know, but you've been killing
people. You've been killing people.
What's one more? Well, yeah, he's a nice.
He also just killed one of your men.
Yeah. Or was definitely.
I mean, he could have been. There it was, freaking him.
It was the writer. What's his name?
They should have the call signs, not their actual names.
OPA, OPA OPA. Yeah, So I never really
understood that, Like why they or like why they literally let
him go. I feel like you could be
persuaded you could shoot. No, you could shoot him.
Like not kill him but like shoot him or like leave him tied
somewhere. Like maybe find a like an like a
attic or a basement. Just lock the door.
Tie him up somewhere? Well then, yeah, I don't.
Know tie. Yeah, tie him to a tree.
Don't just send him back. It's the right thing to do.
See even like Lone Survivor that causes their downfall in that
movie. Remember they they were going to
tie the guys up to the tree and leave them.
OK, but they you remember that movie?
It's been a long Is that Mark Wahlberg?
Yes. OK, it's been a while since I've
seen that one. But he like they, they get to
the mountain, they get caught by a father and his son who's a
fighting man. He's in the Taliban or, you
know, over there fighting. It's like time to treat.
They're like, we can't leave them out here.
They're going to get eaten by wolves or, or freeze to death
tonight. We have to let them go.
He's like this guy's going to go down and tell them that we're up
here. He's like we, we can't kill.
Just kill him in cold blood. They haven't done anything yet,
so they cut him loose and that boy takes off to the village,
like, all right, let's go. And then that's what causes them
to get attacked. Damn they.
Let them go. The moral choice LED them
astray, unfortunately. Yeah, but yes, I'm with you.
Hate that part. I hate both parts that we just
talked about. Hate that they let the German
go, hate that that dudes end up or that dude just ends up being
a pussy. Especially because like, I think
just we're so far from being like trying to figure out like a
moral code to have like you're introduced to this character and
it's almost like you're see, you're about to like see it
through his eyes, which I don't really understand how that
works. Who?
You're introduced to him and he's like supposed to be the
good guy. So I feel like you're supposed
to almost see it from his perspective through the rest of
the movie. But then they kind of make it
seem like it's all supposed to be through Ryan, Private Ryan's
perspective. But he wouldn't have been there
for D-Day, right? So that's weird.
That like kind of tricks you. Because like, yeah, you just get
tricks you because you know, it goes on his eyes and then it
transforms or cuts to Tom Hanks. Yeah.
And you're like, OK, this is his point of view.
And he dies like, oh shit, I thought it was just through his
eyes. He's like, who's oh, is it from
the Ryder Opam And you're like, maybe it's his.
They're his eyes. That's the more Morris he feels
when he gets there because let his men die and didn't do
anything, then it's Private Ryan.
Maybe I'm just missing something there that's just.
Weird. I think the movie's really about
the perspectives like it because a lot of the shots are focused
on the eyes, like it will be a close up on somebody's eyes,
like what they're seeing. They're, I think if that's
really Spielberg just trying to like, because he's depicting it
as realistic as possible. And so he's like focusing on the
eyes of like what these men saw that day.
Yeah. So even though it's seems like
if they want perspective of Private Ryan, it really just
kind of shows you different perspectives of like just the
things. I don't think it's specifically
supposed to be like, this is what he saw.
I think it's more of like, generally this is what these men
saw. Yeah.
I mean, it doesn't matter given the scope of like what they're
going through. Yeah, like give it yeah or the
yeah. A really funny thing with Matt
Damon, Spielberg cast him at Damon because he was a no name
at the time. And then Goodwill Hunting came
out right before this movie and he became an overnight star.
Yeah, Goodwill Hunting blew up. He won an an Oscar for it.
Youngest ever won, the youngest ever do it.
And so like, he casted him because he didn't have a resume,
Yeah. Or he.
Did they? They finished goodwill, I think,
actually. It was Robin Williams that
introduced Matt Damon to Spielberg.
Yes. And he's like, OK, yeah, they.
Were like just, I think they were rehearsing or oh, that's
right, OK. Matt Damon said it.
He he literally say he was like, we were rehearsing really close
to where Spielberg was doing some other movie that was like
damn near across the street. And so Robin Williams, like,
calls up Spielberg. He's like, you should meet these
guys. You know, they got something
good going on over here. And then Spielberg told Damon he
was like, oh, I actually saw you in another movie where I think
Damon like, played a firefighter or something, but he's a heroin
addict. So he just looked really skinny.
And then. But then he sees Damon now and
he's like, oh, actually you look good.
Yeah. This is this is what I had in
mind. But yeah, same thing.
He was like, yeah, then, but it worked out because I think it
was one of those like, oh, fuck yeah.
Like Matt Damon, Like who? By the way, he's done it twice.
He's done this. And then he also surprised
everybody in Interstellar. But it's hilarious because this
movie was not supposed to have that.
Him casting it was like a no name.
Then he blew up the mega mega fame.
It wasn't. It was supposed to be a surprise
review like, oh, that's Private Ryan.
But when you watch it after seeing Goodwill Hunting at the
time, and then now when you see Matt Damon, you're like, there's
Private Ryan. Yeah, that's.
Definitely going to be private, Ryan.
Yeah. It's like the Spielberg's
crafted surprise review of this you know, all American looking
guy that you don't know who he is.
Anybody. Yeah, yeah.
But when you see Matt Damon, you're like, Oh, yeah, that
there's. That's probably going to be him.
Well, it's funny to me because it's one of those where like
just remembering it, I remember it so much differently.
I've I always thought that the grand reveal happened like in my
mind, like they're like, are you Private Ryan?
And then he turns around and it's been Damon.
But then watching it, you know, that's just how I remembered it.
And then this time around I was like, oh, fuck.
They literally just like have Matt Damon like just like kind
of like side by side by them, like, you know, he's just
another face in the crowd. But it's like, oh, that I see
now I get. It the Damon reveal, Yeah.
That's hilarious that Matt Damon has gotten to do that twice in
his career. Came in late as a mega mega
piece of the movie. Yeah.
You know, Chris Fernola who? You know, Chris Fernola and I
think has been kind of the Spielberg.
He like had a crazy run. And then I feel like after this
movie, I mean, he did catch me if you can.
All right, That was Spielberg. Yeah.
And then I, I don't know, I feel
like Scorsese kind of had his run.
Christopher Nolan was also like doing the same thing.
I feel like Nolan and Scorsese and now, then he know.
I feel like they he's the one now.
Nolan's still on the run. Nolan's still on the run, but it
looks like Velana was about to be the guy.
He's on a run. All I'm saying is, like
Spielberg, I don't know, he just like this was, I don't know what
he did after this. He's just kind of like, mind
blowing. Consistently just pushed out
like good movies. Everyone Drury's got great
movies since that, but like you think Jaws to Saving Private
Ryan, like I feel like in in between all of that, like that
was. His Indiana Jones.
That was his reign. Yeah, yeah, ET He did sleep.
He yeah, I always forget he slipped ET in there as well,
just for the kids. Yeah, I mean, he has, Yeah, he
went through his resume. Yeah, on the podcast Go But.
Yeah, but Matt Damon got to do that twice at like a very young
age. And then like, kind of, you
know, I, Matt Damon's like, still.
But no one's saying actor, no one's reveal is like the flip.
Like it's supposed to be a giant star.
It's supposed to be, yeah, it's supposed to be Matt Damon.
You know, like we won a giant star just popping out of
nowhere. Yeah, I wonder if he like, got
inspiration from this. I wonder.
Or if he was like, wow, like the fact that that worked out for
Spielberg where people were like, because I don't think
people were disappointed that Matt Damon was Saving Private
Ryan, especially with the career that Matt Damon has obviously
had, who's been legendary, like Hall of Fame.
What's cool about this movie too, is that you have so many
like not big stars, but like you have the guy from Remember the
Titans, the guy that loses his hearing.
I give somebody like American actors in here that aren't like
giant stars, but just like so just American actors.
Actually, I, I put that in my notes in this movie.
This is what's going to like make some of the guys that like
love those eighties 90s movies probably going to hate us for
this, but let's just call it what it is.
We're a little bit past that. Like, we don't know in our
hearts, like all the big like 90s movies that everybody was
seeing in theaters, like late 80s all throughout the 90s
movies. We know the big ones.
We know, like, we know the big one.
We don't even know, like the really good one.
You know, we're still like learning.
And so to me, like watching this movie, it's like, oh, like this
movie's got Tom Hanks and Matt Damon and then a bunch of other
dudes that you've seen in a lot of things, but like, you don't
really know who they are. Like Vin Diesel, Ryan Cranston.
I completely forgot Vin Diesel was in this but I'm literally.
Giamatti. No, like Adam Goldberg, Giovanni
Ribisi, Go up, go. Up Nathan Fillion.
I like, I know Edward Burns. Tom Sizemore.
I know Barry Pepper. I like, I know, I know all of
these guys. I recognize all of these guys.
Yeah. But like, to me, they're just
like guys like, Oh yeah, I've seen them around.
Yeah, honestly, I've seen. I feel like I just recognize
they've all been in Entourage, They all are in Entourage and
like, that's how I recognize. What's this?
What's the Remember the Titans guy's name?
He's too small of a character I think to even be on this list.
They even slipped Bryan Cranston in there.
Yeah, and gave him no arm. I didn't notice that he has no
arm. Yeah, I didn't pay attention to
that, but Ryan Hurst looks way different now.
That beard and that long hair. Who was he in the moment?
That's the blonde guy. What blonde guy?
The main character. We talking about the main
character in Saving Private Ryan?
You can kind of tell from this picture down here.
No, no, no, no, no. Sorry.
And remember the Titans. Oh, this?
Guy lost lost his hearing when he's yelling.
I don't. I don't really remember.
Remember the Titans. I did not remember.
What? I'm yeah, it's been.
I could not tell you last time I saw that movie.
This boy, he's the main guy. Honestly, I'm trying to even
remember if I've ever seen Remember the Titans.
No fucking way. Dude I maybe it's possible.
It's a great movie. All right bro, there's a lot of
great ones. No, this one's good.
Ryan Gosling's in it is like a little side character.
I've obviously makes sense that you've seen this movie, then you
love Ryan Gosling. Denzel Washington, He's not.
He's not really in it. Ryan Goss is not really in it.
He's in it, but he's not like a main character.
We should do remember the Titans.
We should I. Think we should I honestly left
side can I tell you strong side can I tell you a secret?
What? I don't think I've seen this
movie. You don't, you don't recognize
the left side strong side. No.
You've never seen this movie then?
I don't think I've seen Remember the Titans.
Bro. Wow, I think we've referenced
Remember the Titans like a few Times Now and now it's weird.
I think it's like really dawning on me that I just.
I might have missed this one bro.
Freaking actually. Ryan Gosling is kind of a main
character. But anyway, there's a funny
scene. I was going to say, but I don't
want to spoil it for you. Please don't.
But what I'm saying is, is that we're saying like, oh, like this
isn't like a star-studded cast. I think in the 90s this was like
a somewhat this is a solid cast. This movie.
Sam. Pride, Ryan.
Yes, like I think, I think everybody knew these guys.
Yeah, like the eight dudes in a Spielberg real deal World War 2
movie. I think this is actually a
pretty star-studded cast. Yeah, apparently, Tom Sizemore
during shooting, he was battling a drug addiction.
Heard about this, this is insane.
And Spielberg told him he's like, you're going to be sober
if you're not, they're going to reshoot all 58 days of your
character and replace you. Yeah, so.
So he was taking a piss test every day.
That's right. He was taking a piss test every
day. And Spielberg was like, this
isn't some normal movie like what I'm doing here.
We are trying to show the brutality of World War 2.
There's some respect. Spielberg is an American, you
know. Again, you mentioned this.
His dad fought in World War 2. Right.
He's not trying to make money. He's wants to respect the war.
Yeah, more respect than men. Yeah, like, you know, the
there's so many things and we'll get to it.
But like he was like, this isn't ABS set.
He had guys going through actual boot camp to get ready for this,
which we'll talk more about that too, which I think most people
know, but it is still pretty cool.
But anyways, he told Sizemore he was like, I don't care if you
fail on the last day of shooting, I will replace you.
I will reshoot your scenes like on the last day.
That's nuts. Yeah.
And I, I mean, I don't know Spielberg like that, but sounds
like intense direction wise. Yeah.
Think he might mean it when he said something like that.
I. Think even Thomas Sizemore is
like he meant it too. Like he was going to, he's going
to replace me. Like he knew he was serious,
that's why he didn't. He stayed sober.
Because he knew he would actually replace him.
Yeah, he didn't call his bluff. Yeah, he's pretty.
He's going to do it. Yeah, it's pretty nuts.
Like seeing Sizemore in this and then like thinking on Heat.
God, he was probably doing so much cocaine.
Think about Natural Born Killers.
Wow. Yeah, that's right.
He's cracked out in that movie. Yeah, but like, I'm really
thinking about heat where Al Pacino was like method acting,
quote UN quote. They're both blowing down.
Like, Oh yeah, I was like my character was chipping alcohol.
I can't believe nobody noticed that.
It was like cane or Oh yeah, my bad, my bad.
My character was chipping cocaine.
And like, you know, nobody really, like, we didn't address
it in the movie, but like, yeah, that's what my character was
doing. Like shut it, Pacino.
So are you, buddy? Like that ain't method acting,
you're just a coke out of your mind.
Yeah. But you just made it work.
So Sizemore was like, oh, we're method acting here.
Yeah. Like, what does he what does he
say? He's like, like, I don't do it
for the money. I don't do it for my family.
Like I do it for the rush. Yes.
He says something like that. It's such a yeah.
And so like what I think. Did he come before?
Yeah, I think he was. I think he was 95.
That sounds right. OK, So I'm just saying doing
blow Pacino in 95 and all of a sudden Spielberg's like you
don't get to do any. That's tough.
This is a side piece, but we we've said this before in the
Heat episode, but it's just so funny and he that his character
has a cocaine problem, but they just removed it from the movie.
But but you know, he's acting like he has one.
He's. Just.
Insane. Is he on cocaine in this movie?
What's going? On I do, I don't know.
I mean, part of me we've done that episode, but part of me
does think that like that could just be like some Hollywood BS
could be yeah, yeah, he was chipping cocaine.
We just decided to take that out of the script and the whole
movie, and it's like, no, I know.
Yeah, I think they got the final product.
They're like what the fuck? Is he doing?
Yeah. Why is he yelling at random
moments? Yeah, shockingly, Chevy Prime
and Ryan, the budget wasn't that big.
It was like 70. Million, 70 million.
But it's huge and I think the norm.
The Omaha Beach scene cost 11,000,000.
Yeah. Like most of the budget.
Not most, I mean a good chunk of the budget.
I'm just that one scene. I really don't understand how
they did it for so cheap because it looks so good.
It looks so realistic. I like.
I guess because they're walking around outside, you don't really
have to necessarily build things.
I mean, you kind of do, but they're kind of for a good chunk
of the movie, they're just walking around the woods.
There's still tanks. They're still.
Buildings, a lot of extras. I, I, I mean, I guess that's
like a terrible, terrible amount, but I just, it's
surprising on top of the fact that Spielberg says like, Oh
yeah, I wasn't trying to make that much money from it.
And then he made a fuck ton of money.
He. Didn't think anybody wanted to
see a World War Two movie. Think he made I think this movie
made 475,000,000 I. Don't know.
Hold on. I can tell you because I wrote
it down, because I looked it up, 485 million.
Wow. $70 million budget made 485 million dollars.
And with the money Spielberg got, he was like, I'm going to
make a video game. Yeah, I'm going to do it again.
Yeah. So we should talk.
We should talk Tom Hanks here. We got to.
We got to talk, Tom Hanks. It's a nice cast again, because
he's not a tough looking badass character.
It's perfect. So you sit like the captain is
just an average guy and you get to learn he's an average guy.
He's a school teacher. Yeah.
He just English and coaches baseball.
Yeah. He's just the rant, the regular
guy that got called the war as now he's a captain and he
doesn't look like a badass, but he's having to lead men through
this horrible thing, which then helps you see, like his shock
when things are like happens twice on D-Day.
He's on the beach when he first gets there and just is like,
holy shit, what the fuck are we doing?
And at the end of the movie, when he sees his men falling and
they're losing the final battle protecting the bridge, and he
has like this, this shock, and you're seeing all the the
tragedies happening. I so I feel like I do this thing
sometimes where I watch like a like a 80s or a 90s movie.
And I think like, all right, who nowadays could play that role?
I honest to God, I don't think anybody else can do this one.
I don't think anybody is cut out to be Miller.
I think Tom Hanks was kind of made to be Miller and I
especially with the speech that he gives because so here's the
thing. Harrison Ford and Mel Gibson
were the other two that were considered.
For this role, too tough. Yeah, First off, Mel Gibson.
He would be too bad ass. I think he, yeah, I was going to
go more bad ass. Yeah.
I think like kind of too crazy. You know, he kind of just can
bring that Harrison Ford. Just fuck no.
Oh my God. No, he wouldn't give a shit.
He'd be like, fucking pick up your gun.
Because like, the key scene for Miller is the the monologue
about how he's a teacher and a coach back on and he is married.
Was that monologue was supposed to be a lot longer, But Tom
Hanks told Spielberg, I don't think Miller would reveal that
much about his character. Let's let's shorten his speech
up. And he's like, OK, I agree.
Yeah, let's shorten it up a little bit.
I think Tom Hanks just has kind of the all American boy spirit.
He's forced. I don't know.
Yeah. I don't really know how you
really he's Woody and Toy Story. What this guy is just.
American. He's just so good at playing
that role. Like it's insane that he has had
the career he's had, not because he's not a good actor, he's a
phenomenal actor. But like, I don't know, dude,
like 80s, nineties Hollywood, He's not necessarily the most
handsome dude in the world. Yeah.
You know, with now I'm thinking about it, he kind of would have
been cool in a sense with Mel Gibson being Miller only because
seeing the tough guy get the shakes, that would have been
powerful. Seeing like the tough if you
know you probably would have played it pretty tough and
seeing the the captain, the tough captain breaking like
starting to break. I guess I just only in that
sense that'd be powerful, but I agree.
Ask me, Tom Hanks. I am also like Mel Gibson.
I like Mel Gibson. I do too.
Giving him high praise on the movies that we've watched.
We just did Passion of the Christ guys did a great job on
that. Ain't talking about his
controversy, right? Nope, I'm no, I'm just saying I
think, and I will definitely say this about Harrison Ford.
I think Tom Hanks is just like insanely better actor than both
of them. Yes, like way better, like
levels better than Mel Gibson and Harrison Ford.
I can't believe those were the two guys that were considered
for this role. Like if, if you put it that way,
to me, like it just makes total sense that Tom Hanks got this
just. What do you think of the
greatest actor of all time? Tom Hanks makes that list.
Yeah, I know Gibson and Harrison Ford like both respectable
careers, obviously like they made it, they're good, they had
long lasting careers in Hollywood.
But they like, I do not consider Harrison Ford like a good actor.
You don't. You just think about Indiana
Jones. I'm a little.
That's all you're thinking about.
He's just like, dude. Star Wars.
He plays a really good cocky dude or he plays a really good
self hating dude. Yes, that's it.
I just, I look back to the movie.
I don't, I'm not, I'm not here to like talk shit about them.
I'm just saying. Gray's hating hour.
Yeah, I'm just saying that monologue is like the key part
of Miller's character that literally like shows you like
Tom Hanks was supposed to be that.
Because can you really imagine Harrison Ford or Mel Gibson
giving that speech and doing anywhere close to how good Tom
Hanks does? It Mel Gibson would have done a
good messed up version of it. Like he's you can see the pain.
He's good at that. You can see.
The let the weapon. Yeah, but you're not supposed to
see the pain with Miller. He's just kind of, this is his
reminder of like, dude, like we're all just trying to.
Get home. The only way he's able to get
through the war is by saying every man that I kill has saved
100 men. Yeah.
That's the only way he's able to, like, rationalize.
Yeah, he's thinks he's done. He's like 100 times that or 200
times it. Like he's literally like talking
insanity. He's like, right?
You know, right? Yeah, I'm doing a good thing,
right? He's.
Got and then obviously the famous line of like for every
man I kill the further away from home I feel, which I bet you
hate that line. Why?
Because you love a lot of killing.
I actually put that in my nose. I was like, Kate hates that
line. No killing.
Yeah, more killing. Tom Hanks pussy.
Yeah. Oh yeah.
Speaking of a lot of killing, how do you feel about this?
Movie. Love the killing.
No, this is a different kind of killing.
I'll talk about Taran, give me some Tarantino killing.
I'm like give me some Django and Chase.
Yeah, Speaking of a lot of killing, like you must have just
been like watering at the mouth on that first 25 minutes you're.
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, like I your thoughts,
what are your thoughts on that? Or were you even just like, Oh
my fuck this is a tough one. I like seeing him kill the
Nazis. Respect.
I saw some your. Characters die though.
That's what I got. Like a lot of killing, but I
like it when the good guys are doing a lot of killing.
Yeah, So that oh, you know what? I saw that Spielberg like tried
to make a vow that he would never show the killing from the
Germans point of view. He only wanted it to be like
you're on America side and that's it.
Yeah. But obviously you had like if
you're really going to show the brutality of D-Day, you have to
show up from the Germans perspective sometimes to just
show that like we have a fuck ton of machine guns and grenades
on the German side on top of this hill.
So we're going to mow y'all down when you.
Prep the beach insane like they prepped that beach.
That's why so many Americans died, because they literally
like bulletproof the beach. But we made it through.
Yeah. Yeah, that'd be interesting to
see, like a movie from the Nazi side.
Like to like, we got this in the bag.
Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck fuck. That would be interesting.
I feel like enough time has passed to somebody could
probably do that, but you don't. You're not going to show them in
a good light. No, you don't show it in a good
light, but you do. You could still show
perspective. Let me write that down.
Somebody could We could start doing that.
We should start doing that. There should be some movies from
like kind of like a Nazi perspective, how they thought it
was going to go versus them. I mean, obviously still got to
show them losing. Yes, you can't show well.
You're not going to show them winning.
They didn't win. I know I'm just.
Saying obviously. Well, I'm just saying, like,
think about fury. Like those guys die.
But like, you know that, I don't know, there's kind of that,
like, all right, they did that as a sacrifice to eventually win
the war. Yeah.
Let's start showing Nazis make sacrifices and it's like who
cares because they lost? Yeah.
Don't you? You try to give me a look there.
You try to get me just now and you're not going to.
I'm going to clip that so. Hard.
You're not going to get me. Oh, that.
Made me think a part of perspective of the enemy side.
The scene, I think it's, I think it's on the Omaha Beach scene at
the very end when those guys are like the soldiers are coming up
with their hands up and they're like they're saying something
and they just keep mowing down right there and they kind of
like make fun of like what? Do you mean, oh, on the beach?
And the guy's like, what are they saying?
Yeah, he's, he says something. I don't even know, he says.
Fun of him, like something for dinner.
I don't know. Yeah, they were actually, those
are two Czech guys because the Germans forced some of the Czech
people to come fight with them, like capture them and force them
to fight for them. And So what the actual lines
they were saying was I'm Czech, I'm Czech, I didn't kill
anybody. I'm Czech, Papa.
And they kill him. Like they didn't actually fight
that day. They just, they were there on
the German side wearing the uniforms, but they actually
didn't do anything. So they knew that language.
They would have known that they were actually on their side.
That's brutal, but it's also that I did No, if you you, I'm
honestly really thinking about it like a million mph or if
like, all right, the Germans just captured me and the
Americans are coming and if I somehow survive on the German
side, I gotta figure out the English way to say I'm not a
German. Yes, like you have to.
Yeah, learn just one sentence of English.
But think about that. When would you do that?
If you're under, if you're pretty much a German prisoner
and then you're like trying to like there's.
Gonna be 1 Czech guy that knows a little bit of English.
Apparently not. Well, not these two.
Not those. Two well, and then when would
you ever have time to practice? Because it's not like the
Germans are like, all right, you're prisoners, but like
you're also kind of on our side like, well, you can come hang
out with us and eat with us. No, they're prisoners and they
got put on the line. Anytime a German heard a Czech
dude speaking English they'd be like.
Popped German. That was German.
Yeah, that was not German. Yeah, you are dead.
Yeah, that was not English or French.
Yeah, you're dead. Yeah, so that just sucks for
those Czech guys. But I mean, just from a movie
perspective, I'm just thinking like, all right, those
characters like you can bag all you want, but like, you probably
knew you were a dead man as soon as you realize that the Germans
like had lost this battle. Like you're, you think the
Americans after you, what you just did, are going to be like,
oh, fuck, you were a prisoner. Oh no.
It's game over for you. It's game over.
I was like, all right, let's accept it.
They just watched so many other men die.
They almost died. They don't care who you are.
They don't get you on the other side.
You're. Dead.
They're definitely still seeing red.
They're going to be seeing red for the rest of their lives,
buddy. These guys are going to go back
home and not do a good job as family men except for Private
Ryan. I guess I actually have a
critique on this movie. What?
I don't like the ending. I don't like that, he asks his
wife. Am IA good man?
I don't like it. I cut her some slag just because
like, he's traumatized. Like, you know, you say whatever
when you're traumatized. I just think for a movie
perspective, like that's what they came up with writing, I
just don't like it. Please tell me I was a good man.
Well, actually it's funny that his wife's like what her
husband's on the graves of many men that he saw died.
What is she? Why is she not like immediately
supportive? She's like, I mean, what?
Yeah, like. What do you think also?
What is she supposed to say? Obviously she's supposed to say
like, yeah, you did a good job. Oh honey, you were.
Come here. There's just levels to it, OK.
She goes up in his ear and says you earned it.
That's what she says. That would be over.
Yeah, That'd be insane. That's funny.
He's like, wait, how do you?
Know that? Yeah.
I don't even think he needed to talk to the wife.
I think he could have just had a private moment with the grave.
I I just don't think that was the line.
Or just go to your family and hug.
Him. Yeah, you don't need to say
anything. Everybody knows, like, because
here's the thing, they've clearly done a good job of
showing that like, he did do a good job, OK, because his family
shows up to France with him to do this thing.
Like, this is a big thing. I don't know if they're on
vacation and they just happen to be like, all right, I guess we
should fucking stop at grandpa's worst day ever and be there for
him. But they did do it and they
clearly care because you see the family in the background, like
in the shots, like watching. And giving him space.
Yes, but like even the grandkids, like have some
respect, which means that the dads who were raised by this man
were like, this is a big day. So we're not bringing the iPads,
we're not going to be playing games on our phones.
We're going to be here for grandpa, damn it, because he did
a good job and a lot of dudes came back and didn't, you know?
So they do a good job of depicting the fact that he ended
up living a very fruitful life and gave, you know, had children
and was good to the children, had a outstanding marriage with
his wife, which meant he was nice to her.
Probably right, Probably not everyday.
Look, I'm just speculating right there, but I'm just saying he
didn't have to ask her that. He didn't need the the
validation of her. Slow.
Cheesy. It's a little cheesy.
It's just not the right line if you're going to go that route.
Yeah, which, But I'm with you. I don't think I have to.
I would have rather he like, talked to the grave and said
like, I hope I was worth it, right or.
I hope I earned it. I hope I.
Earned it. Yeah, because earn it is
honestly not the strongest thing to me either.
I don't like earn it like. Earn your survival.
Yeah, like you're. Going to have guilt so go earn
your survival. Well, because and then just kind
of going back again, like the levels of this, of Saving
Private Ryan the whole time in this movie, they're just like,
you know, fuck this dude. We hate this guy.
This is ridiculous. But they're like, just fine.
They're like, he better go and solve cancer.
He better cure cancer. Yeah.
And then Private Ryan gives, like, pretty much a goodwill
hunting speech in that monologue, which I've heard was
improvised, which is cool. That's cool.
Yeah, they said. Spielberg said he kept it.
Because I actually love this fact.
I think it's so. Far, yeah.
He kept it because it's not that funny.
It's not even a really good story, but it just reflects him
being a young, immature boy out at war.
That just tells a bad story. I love that fact.
I love it. Yeah, just.
Honest, it's like a genuine moment of this guy.
Yeah, this guy's clearly not going to cure cancer based on
just that shitty ass. Like what the fuck story?
That's why Tom Hanks isn't laughing.
He's like, fuck me, this fucking guy, That's this is who we
saved. Yeah.
Can't even tell a good story. I love that fun fact, though,
that Spielberg was like, that speech was so bad and I'm going
to leave it in the movie because, you know, Matt Damon,
like saw it in the movie. He was like, wow, they kept
that. I crushed that shit.
Damn. And then Spielberg like on
interview, he didn't even tell Matt Damon.
He just like went on to do interviews.
He was like, yeah, that speech sucks so bad that it did such a
great job of showing that Ryan was not going to cure cancer or,
like, amount to, like, being some hero.
He's not the president of the United States.
He's not, like, the savior of the world or anything.
He's just kind of a dipshit kid. And Matt Damon was like, all
right, you know, OK, fuck me. Yeah.
I love. So I mentioned it earlier, the
Spielberg boot camp. You.
I'm sure you've heard of this story.
I kind of love that like Matt Damon was just like probably
getting hazed a little bit because he kind of, I think he
was doing a good job acting wise.
Then he writes Goodwill Hunting that changes his entire career.
But then like I think of Saving Private Ryan, the story goes
that Spielberg put all the 8 dudes through a boot camp.
Like a gruesome boot camp? Yeah, or boot camp.
Yeah. And then Matt Damon just didn't
have to do a boot camp Spielberg.
Said you're not going to be a part of the boot camp.
So I love that. Yeah, He wanted all the actors
to kind of, in real life, build some resentment toward Matt
Damon so that way it would reflect on screen their
resentment toward him having to go save him and having their men
die going to save one man. Yeah, so, you know, on set those
dudes like Sizemore going through a cocaine withdrawal and
also hearing that this stupid fucking kid also has a hit
career changing movie come out. They weren't filming yet, so he
might have still been on the Bender.
That's what got him through boot camp.
Oh. Yeah, OK.
But I. Mean some sizemore had a blast
during boot camp, yeah. Sizemore yeah, that's probably
where he earned his role. Gilbert was like, holy shit,
this guy's a machine. And then came out that he was on
cocaine. He was like, you're done with
that buddy. You can't do that anymore.
I'm just saying, like on set with Matt Damon, after they've
been through boot camp, they probably, they probably didn't
get along with them because they're like, you literally
didn't bond with us. Also, goodwill hunting sucked.
Yeah. We actually hated that movie.
Oscar my ass. Yeah, nobody.
Gives a fuck about the Oscars in World War 2.
You know what? We're not here to win an Oscar.
That's not making movies. That's not what it's about.
And. This is all Sizemore by the way.
Yeah, and he was supposed to be a big star or sorry, he's
supposed to be a no name and now he's a fucking massive star.
They're like fuck you. Fuck you.
So I like that that did work out.
They're like, you ruined this movie, he ruined the script.
Supposed to be a surprise. You fucked it.
Yeah. Big * is a new Hollywood boy,
yeah. Let's get real, Sizemore was not
the only one doing cocaine in Hollywood either.
Now hopefully some of these dudes saw that he was having to
take a piss test. Hopefully Sizemore was like, if
I hear that any of y'all did any cocaine on this set, after we're
done, after it's a wrap, I will kill you.
Or he's like. Saving Private Ryan.
Style or he's like I'm telling I'm going to tell on.
You. Yeah, I'm going to tell on you.
I'm going to get Spielberg to replace you.
So a big controversy with this, with Saving Private Ryan.
It didn't win Best Picture, which was a big shock because
it's such a phenomenal movie, made a bunch of money and is a
realistic depiction of World War 2A, very heavy, powerful movie.
What won that year was a movie called Shakespeare in Love.
The reason why it didn't win is because Harvey Weinstein's
company made it. And Harvey Weinstein did this
relentless campaign for his movie to win at the Oscars.
And he was like shitting on Saving Private Ryan, saying it's
way too bloody, it's way too gruesome for the 1st 15 minutes.
That's too much. And he he said it's too, it's
not, it's not accurate. It's historically inaccurate.
Like this doesn't deserve to win Best picture.
He's probably saying it glorifies war.
Yeah, But he's, yeah, just shitting on it to everybody,
like in campaigning his movie to win.
And so somebody told Spielberg about Harvey Weinstein's attack
is like what he's doing. And Spielberg was like, I'm not
going to get involved with that because Harvey Weinstein was
known for being so brutal. Like I think a reporter told
Spielberg that, like, listen, I don't want you to get in the mud
with Harvey Weinstein, so let's just drop it.
Everybody knows he's a bad guy. Wow.
Yeah. And then that really came to
light. Yep.
So Harvey Weinstein is the reason why Saving Private Ryan a
phenomenal movie. Then it went in Best Picture
when it definitely should have and deserved to.
Wow, another thing added to the list.
There's a huge list. Yeah, massive list, long list.
I read a book. It's actually, yeah.
Hits, Flops and Other Illusions by Ed Zwick, Director, big
director. He has a story in there.
I don't remember exactly the details, but he has a story
about Harvey Weinstein. Like, just fucking just in his
ass. Just like on the phone being so
brutal about, just like he didn't want to do a movie or
something like that, and Harvey Weinstein just like being brutal
on the phone to him. And he so Harvey Weinstein did
the Shakespeare movie. Yeah, the Shakespeare in Love.
That I've never heard of. Never heard of either.
Who? Yeah, I was going to say who?
Who's in it that won Best Picture?
Yep, I'm sure it's good. I mean, Harvey Weinstein made
some good movies. Romantic comedy.
Gwyneth. Oh.
Well, we know that she wasn't having a good time making this
movie. We hope that Ben Affleck, Oh,
Matt Damon, Ben Affleck competition.
Whoa. Damn.
That's that's pretty funny. Suck it, Matt.
This is Shakespeare in love. It imaginatively unfolds the
witty, sexy and timeless tale behind the creation of the
greatest love story ever told. It's a romantic comedy.
Yep. I romantic comedies can win an
Oscar. You know what?
When? You got Harvey Weinstein.
You know what threatening. Everybody behind the scenes you.
Know what? I don't even care.
I don't care. I don't care about the Oscars.
Me neither, to be honest with you.
Yeah, every. I think everybody kind of knows
it's a sham, but everybody still tunes in just to see like, all
right, but like, for real, they got my favorite movie winning
the best one. The final straw was really the
Dune Part 2 thing. They didn't let it be in.
The score didn't. Could it be nominated because it
used parts of the original score?
Even though it's still different and it's still.
I'm just thinking score of all time.
I'm just thinking this year, like it was between Timothy
Chalmet and Michael B Jordan and and Leo and Leo.
That's right. And the fact that Timothy's odds
dropped because of something he said, I was like, OK, so that's
like just in your face where it's like, OK, it's literally
not about who's the best actor. No, it's not.
It's all politics. Yeah, it's literally a political
thing, so that's OK. Well, I guess what now?
I don't really care what you say because we don't.
We don't care about the best acting here.
They just be like an audience choice.
There probably is, but. Yeah, that's to.
Be the mostest. That's just so annoying.
Like, that was literally like people.
The odds were shown of like, where?
I don't know where it was. Like Timothy Chalamet was like
kind of neck and neck, I think, with Michael B Jordan to win it.
And then he said the ballerina thing, which, let's get real.
It's true. Yeah.
Who? Come on, he wasn't disrespecting
it either, he's just literally just saying people don't watch
it like it's a dying art form because people don't really go
to watch it. I don't even know if it's dying.
I'm sure they actually have a very committed audience that
will forever go on. I'm just, it's just not a
mainstream thing. I think people know that.
That's what he means. It's not dying.
It's not a mainstream thing anymore.
Used to be the biggest thing ever because that's what you you
could only see. Now there's movies.
Yeah, now you get to watch the movies.
Movies. Yeah, you get to see Doom part
anyways. And so he said that and then his
odds went down. I was like, OK, so it's not
about the best actor. No, it's about our favorite
actor, I guess. What the fuck?
I think Michael B Jordan probably had it in the bag the
whole time though. I He did a good job acting wise
sinners. He did a good job, he played,
but. Just the praise of God.
And I was like, he's definitely going to win it.
Yeah. And they hate Leo for some
reason. They.
Love to let him down, yeah. So the greatest.
Actor alive. They don't give him the props.
Why? Why?
Like it's odd. 1 Oscar. I don't know.
With his resume, I don't know. His performances, I don't know,
dude, I don't know. But what I do know is that it's
a sham and who gives a fuck? I don't.
It's like just a, you know, I just really don't care.
So, like, when I see that it lost in 1998 to a romantic
comedy. All right.
Like I do. What do we do?
What? I don't care.
Yeah.
I I haven't heard of that movie. Everybody knows this movie.
Everybody knows this. Movie this is this has to be
isn't there something that the United States does like I think
they did it for. I feel like we've talked about
it. They did it with.
A congressional librarian deal. Yes, They did it with Shawshank
Redemption. Yeah.
They like, put it in as like, a very important movie.
Yeah. One of, like, cinema history.
Yeah. All right.
Well, I bet this is in there. This movie gave Tom Hanks like
an honorary like military role. Or something like that.
I saw that that's doing a little much, but.
It is a little much. That's a little much, but
respectful if you see if he's an.
Honorary Ranger or something? I don't know what it is, I just
know that like probably a bunch of you know.
Honorary World War 2 veteran. I yeah, if anything, like
Spielberg should get that award right.
You know, Tom Hanks is a phenomenal actor.
He. Pulls the emotion out of.
It for sure, absolutely. After like 1000 takes of
Spielberg getting the right one, I was saying like words like
that I think should go to directors.
Yeah, they. Actors.
Trade of the vision. Yeah, like, actors are just
acting, you know, after a long day of work.
Tom Hanks, like, goes to his movie trailer and his.
I don't know they're I'm not saying his heart's not in it.
I bet it is. The directors get the short end
of the stick with the praise most of the time.
Actually, I'm kind of talking like a Dick head now because I'm
just thinking of like the actors I've worked with on commercials
who I'm just like, I'm not getting like Tom Hanks acting.
Yeah. So I bet Tom Hanks actually does
go to a really deep spot to like get his roles down.
Yeah. I mean, they, yeah, it's their
job. They like they're on that at the
their job at the highest level. So they're putting in prep.
They got months to prepare. All they're doing is preparing
for. This one care.
OK, OK, I actually, I omit what I just said.
Everything that I just said about that being a little much
like Tom Hanks earned that. But the director's responsible
for everything, so I mean, I see.
I'm more I'm omitting the fact that like Tom Hanks didn't do
his part. But yes, I Spielberg clearly was
the one with the vision here. So if Tom Hanks gets that, I
think Spielberg should also get that.
Yeah, not saying it should be one over the other.
This is an important movie. It literally shows you just like
how brutal what did. You hear about it, but when you
watch it. The fact that they the fact that
it is visual and the fact that this movie like is just it
confirmed like that's what it looked like.
The fact that yes, now we can literally go see what D-Day
looked like. That's crazy.
There's no, there's nobody speaking up saying like it was
actually even more brutal. I mean, it was more brutal.
I mean yes, but depiction wise and like.
That's the match. Nope.
That's what it looked like. You can't do more with the
camera. Yeah.
And actress. Yeah, and a set.
Yeah, so Saving Private Ryan. You know, rate this bad boy.
I'm ready to rate it. All right, what you got for
Saving Private Ryan? All right, so I'll go down the
list acting 10 out of 10. Everybody kills it in this
movie. Shout out to the old man though,
in the beginning and the end of this movie, because once now
that I've gone and rewashed it, like you realize he's nailing it
from the beginning. Just that whole like, yeah, when
you know what's coming to his knees when.
You know what's coming and you see his eyes.
You're like, Yep, like that's. Crazy to me.
Yeah, that's phenomenal acting. Also insane that they found an
old man that was able to morph literally just like Matt Damon.
That's kind of weird how they just.
Got eyes. You got to find the eyes, yeah?
Anyways, acting 10 out of 10, I think everybody crushes it.
Shout out to Spielberg for doing the boot camp.
I think when you do stuff like that, you are, you're giving
these people no choice but to be the best that they can be.
So 10 out of 10 in acting. Yep.
Writing 7 out of 10, I think I've knocked it enough.
Like, I just think there's some lines, I think kind of the point
of view shots I'm not the biggest fan of like how it's
just a little confusing in that sense.
I don't think it it tracks totally well, but story wise,
incredible, incredible. I do I there are a lot of scenes
that I I love though a lot of I don't, I feel like I don't hear
enough people talk about it. Everybody knows the Miller Tom
Hanks monologue that's obviously very famous.
I love the griping scene. That's like my underrated scene,
really. Like, I think that scene so
underrated shows so much of Miller's character that ends up
being revealed where it's like, of course, he kind of said
something like that, where the griping scene is like Tom Hanks
is saying, like, you know, I have somebody that I gripe to,
you know, that's above me. And then he gripes to somebody
above me, but you'll never hear me griping to somebody below me.
And then they're like, OK, we'll say I was your superior and you
could gripe to me. What would you say he's like,
excellent job, Sir. Sure.
I'm happy that you chose me for this mission.
And I'm going to do the best that I can.
And I I know that you're doing it for the betterment of the
country. Yeah.
Love that scene.
Great scene. Great scene.
And then it kind of goes up, like if you're a teacher and a
coach and your principal or your higher up tells you to do
something like no doubt getting done, happy to do it.
Yeah, exactly. So love that scene anyways,
yeah, so I have like a little bit of quiz with the the
writing, but it is solid overall editing 10 out of 10.
I I don't think we really have to talk much about that
cinematography 10 out of 10, same thing like I just, I think
everybody, especially because he doesn't have a shot list, just
insane that he just went out there and.
Fucking did it. Yeah, Spielberg literally behind
the camera, too. That's a crazy fact.
I, I didn't even know about that one.
Yeah, but that would make sense that he was like, I'm going to
have to have the camera here. Like, I know what it looks like
and I know what I want it to look like, so I'm going to need
that camera to go get it. Yeah, also just badass to think
of a director I've seen like you, you rarely see it too.
But when you do see it, it's pretty cool to see a director be
like, give me the camera. I actually I I know exactly what
I need to get. So just let me let me just go
get it. Relax, Foxy enjoyability.
This is a tough one. This is a tough one.
Seven out of 10. Like it's a good movie.
It's a tough movie. To watch.
I don't know not. Too tough for me honestly.
Really. It's brutal, but it's not like
what's a what's a tough movie? Oh, like passionately Christ
like, that's real tough. OK, but more in the sense of
like, you go through brutal and then you just kind of follow
them, go through they're just like travelling across the
country looking for a guy. And you know, there's other
scenes like Vin Diesel going down, which, by the way, Vin
Diesel completely forgot he's in this movie.
Me too, completely forgot. And I was like, what the that's
inferior? What Don family or Dom what
which he got this movie by? He directed and wrote and acted
in a short film that somehow Spielberg saw.
And. So, yeah.
And so Spielberg wrote Vin Diesel into this movie.
Yeah. That's crazy.
What? Yeah, that's crazy.
Come on. But again, scenes like that, I I
do like it. It's a very good movie.
Yeah, it's a good movie. Enjoyable, though.
It's a tough watch for me. What's your total?
7 out of 10. So total.
I've got an 8.8 out of 10. Nice.
I have acting 10 out of 10. Everybody brings it.
Riding 9 out of 10, I had a point.
Why not ten, but I don't know 9 out of 10.
Editing 10 out of 10, of course, which fun fact on the editing,
this was the last major movie to be edited not digitally.
Like they had the film and like chopped it with the film chopper
thing to like make the movie so and then use the computer like
it was like a computer thing like chopped the stuff, but it
wasn't digital. Like they were using the actual
film to cut and paste together. Which is insane.
Everything about this movie is just old school.
Yeah, same photography 10 US in. Of course we got there
enjoyability 8 out of 10. It's really good, but it's not
like my favorite war movie. Yeah, I'm not throwing Saving
Private Ryan on on the airplane. No, no.
And I do oh, riding. I was going to say one thing I
do like is the like, as they're walking through the whole middle
of the movie, like showing off the brotherhood, like the scene
you just talked about, like you get to see their brotherhood and
how they communicate. And just that's what the writers
kind of trying to find is the brotherhood between men and war.
And you you get to see that through the whole movie, like
their relationship together. Love the sniper.
Yep, he's awesome. He improv the line about him
being a a good. He says something like I'm a
machine in war. This guy, I think it's a waste.
Quite a few badass. But that one was improv.
He's like, I think that my resources as a killer machine,
whatever he says. He says.
Weapon of war. I shouldn't be going out to find
Private Ryan. They should be getting me as
close to Hitler as possible because I'll kill him.
Yeah. And put an end to this war.
Yeah. And yeah, Miller's like, that's
how you complain. Yeah.
That's really, that's how you do it right there.
I that's crazy, though, that like, he's a fictional
character. And then you get American
Sniper, who's kind of the same character, but it's, you know,
it's based on a real person, but he's literally like a Christian
dude kind of reading the Bible as he's killing people.
So yeah. So that's kind of nuts that
like, I guess snipers just do that.
You're alone. You have to.
Yeah, I'd, I'd, I'd want the Bible.
It was like, all right, if it's just me up in this tower and
nobody to talk to, I have no excuse not to talk to God.
And you're. Not saying no, it's not a
slight, but you're killing people in the easiest way from
like a distance where you can just easily just, like, pick
them off. Yeah.
So it's like you have this detachment, so you have to,
like, remind yourself of what you're actually doing.
Yeah, because it's you. Know, and you, I think you also
just have literally so much time up there to think about every
man that you kill. Yeah, and you're killing a lot
of men. Yeah, you better get right with
God. Yeah.
So he'll just go crazy. So my total score is a 9.2 out
of 10 for Saving Private Ryan. A solid a solid.
This is a damn good movie. It is a good movie.
Tom Hanks crushes, Spielberg crushes and letting people
traumatize after watching. Yep.
Not many movies do that. No, not many people make a movie
that like actually has people like OK, I have to leave because
like you can see disturbing, gruesome movies and understand
it's just a movie. But the fact that he literally
got it right about a very, very hard Day in History, yeah, that,
like, it's just one of those things I said earlier, but I
feel like definitely seeing it in theaters, just kind of a
reminder of like, this happened not that long ago.
He requested that I turn the volume all the way up when they
played it, so like to give the impact of the war experience.
That's insane. Gunshots exploding.
I watched the movie in the living room, and when I started
it and my little baby Sarah was sleeping in her room.
And so like, I had to, like, turn her down a little bit.
So I don't want to wake her up with the giant noises.
But I can't hear anything they're saying.
Yeah, because the difference in volume is so drastic, so I can't
hear them. I like, put the captions on.
I'm like, I'm shit, Come in the garage and watch it on our TV in
here. I tried to watch it, I had to
watch it on Disney Plus and I couldn't put subtitles on.
You couldn't. No.
Did you? Yeah, OK.
All right. I.
Can it's a star or something on the side?
Click that. Go over to Captions.
Click on. Couldn't do it like just
wouldn't work. I probably honestly, I bet if I
just like turn my TV off and then like turn it back on, it
would have worked. That's.
Happened to me. Before, actually, I couldn't
turn them off or something. Yeah, they're stuck.
I just could not get them on. What happened to us I.
Was going to say I think this happened before.
We were watching a movie in here before podcast and the captions
were jacked. Can't believe he's saving
Private Ryan's on Disney Plus, by the way.
Hulu. Is that what it is?
Yeah. The.
Well, it's also. It's also DreamWorks.
So I threw this movie on. What is it?
Yeah, I threw this movie on. I don't know if it's because I
was watching it on Disney Plus. No they shouldn't.
It's just show you. OK, so I throw this movie on and
my roommate, he was like kind of out the door, but he was like,
are you watching a kids movie? And Saving Private Ryan stars
and obviously like it's, you know, pretty memorable intro and
he's like Saving Private Ryan is DreamWorks.
That's wild. I was like, I never thought of
that either. That is pretty insane.
So DreamWorks shadowing DreamWorks.
Well, I think Spielberg like have like he either he might own
DreamWorks or he's evolved somehow very heavily involved.
OK, wouldn't be surprised. Yeah.
Anyways, that's that's all I got all.
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