And we are live. Just like that.
It always sneaks up on me somehow and does it.
Yeah, I mean, we're just talking about your new pants and now.
And not my ass. You were talking about my ass,
actually. No, no, no.
You were talking about your pants and then, I mean, you
know, just got a great arse back there.
I do have a dump truck. Yeah man, Want to start?
Alright, so you have a back injury, you said.
Yeah, yeah. I went back home and back home
and the neighborhood. There's just like a lot of hills
to go up and down. And I'm doing the 75 hard.
So I was doing a lot of running. And at one point I ran with my
mom, my sister and my baby niece, and she's like a baby, so
she's just in a stroller. How old is she?
Just turned a year old in July. So when we would go up the hills
I would grab the stroller and just like Sprint as as fast as I
could go. But like these hills are very
steep and I'd my back was getting sore but you know I I
didn't really think much of it and then yesterday like I just
my back was getting worse and worse and worse and like I was
just like nothing would help it like.
I got no relief no matter what I did.
Even laying down like I was just like, Oh my God this is so I
took some medicine. I I tried getting some sleep.
I got like no sleep last night. And then I just woke up and I
could I felt like I couldn't walk pretty much and there was
no way I was going to work out. So I did Something that I've
been scared to do for years now because of videos that I see on
the Internet is go to a chiropractor.
But I went there was one right down the road from me.
They were doing walkins. I.
So I went in there and he, like, pulls me into his office.
He's like, you know, like, I want you to see, like, how it
works. Because he was like, have you
ever done this before? I was, like, never.
And he could, like, see the fear of my eyes.
He was like, all right, we'll come back into the room.
I'm about to work on this guy in front of you.
You can see, like, how it is. And if you have any questions,
just let me know. And he was doing exactly what I
was terrified of being done to me.
Just. It's the neck, really.
It's the that's like the big thing that I'm terrified because
I'm like, dude, if you mess this up, I'm dead.
I'm done for. And like he's just like, oh, my
bad. He's just, I mean it looks like
he's about to kill him every time.
And like my face is just and then, you know, he kind of
talked me through it, blah, blah, blah.
And. Oh my God.
I mean, it's like hurting a little bit more now, but like,
for the rest of the day today. I mean, it's like he fixed it.
My neck still hurts, but like, it feels a little bit better.
Yeah, like it works for you. But if you look up Chiropractor
on Google, it says it's a pseudoscience.
Like it's not a real thing. Like it's not people don't.
Some people don't believe it's a real way to heal people.
I don't know the guy before me when he left, he was like, all
right, thank you, doctor. Or it was.
I think his name was like Doctor Aaron.
I was like doctor. All right.
OK. Makes me feel a bit better.
I think you have to be a doctor to be a chiropractor, do you?
I think. I don't.
I mean, he that dude called him Doctor.
Aaron, I don't think you're about.
I don't think you're allowed to just throw that out there, no.
OK, so if if chiropractor Doctor Aaron was on a plane and
somebody was dying, like, would he be the kind of person to be
like, hey, like, step away. I'm a doctor.
And then he starts to pop their back.
Like if they're like having a heart attack, like, but then,
you know, I think like plastic surgeons, same thing.
Like if they're on a plane and somebody is having a heart
attack, could they also be like, hey, everybody step away?
I'm a doctor. Then probably, Yeah, probably,
yeah. I mean, a doctor is a pretty
wide term. I could be a doctor of law, have
a PhD, and you're still a doctor.
Yeah. I think it's just a grade of
education. But most of the time is in
medical, yeah. That is in, yeah, I don't want a
lawyer like getting everybody to like step aside and say, hey,
I'm a doctor and it's like, actually.
Like, this is how we can sue the airline.
As I'm dying, that's not what I want in that moment.
Yeah. No, you don't want that.
There's like doctors at pharmacy, you know, I mean,
there's a bunch of doctors, so they might know a general
medicine, They might be just the more educated person on the
plane. Don't worry, I'm a doctor and
they just decide to do it now. But.
Well, it was, yeah. You know, it helped my back for
sure. I mean, I know we were like, I
was having like lay on the floor.
Not there, but like, I mean, it's definitely sore and he said
it would be, but it was killing me.
So I mean that's this isn't nearly as bad, but my neck is
still like just has like this Crick.
Like I can't. It's only on the right side.
But we persevere and we get the job done regardless.
And that's why I'm here right now.
Doesn't matter how much pain I'm in.
My my back could be broken and I'd still show up, we felt be
from this bad boy in the hospital.
I could be in a full body cast. Doctor just told me that I'm
paralyzed for life and I'm like, alright Kade, what are we
watching tonight? The one thing I would never want
to do is do a Zoom podcast. Those are lame to me.
It would just depend on where I'm at, like if I'm like up in
the mountains or something, or maybe at like a cool Dojo or
like I'm hanging out with the monks.
Then it's like, hey dude, like, let's actually, I bet they'll
love this. Go one of the monks.
Hey bro, you should watch this movie.
Yes, you should check out Everything Everywhere, all at
once. It's.
A great movie. Hey, Kate, watch.
Rub his bald head for good luck. Yeah, and he beats your ass.
Yeah, with a flick of a pinky. But no.
Just by. Yeah, make me fly away.
Yeah, no, but just by mirror. Like, hey dude, I don't really
feel like me now. Let's just do it over zoom like
that, yeah. But even like if we were, if we
were separated over like a course of like weeks where we
didn't have enough for to preload or didn't couldn't shoot
beforehand or whatever, I'd rather just bring on a guest.
Or you have a guest. Like if we were separated, I'm
not here, you're not here. Just be have a guest.
I'd rather us not doing the zoom.
Yeah, those are just lame. They're disconnected.
Yeah, but then I'm terrified of that because I mean, what if
that guy, it just kills it and then we get like a million views
and then boom, Gray was the problem.
Bye. Bye.
Now we do a we do a triple hosts or what if I was gone?
I'm like shit. Bye bye, Kate.
One guy that produces this thing, he's gone.
See ya. No, we we just have a three
person. I do at some point want to do
like a multiple, like four people.
Yeah, sure, the four mics. The more the merrier might be
fun. Yeah, we'll figure it out next
time. There's like a big.
We need to. We need to host tryouts.
Yeah, tryouts live. Yeah, live on the podcast.
We have like, a good amount of people.
We know that TuneIn. They're like, dude, like, let me
get in on this podcast and I'm like, dude, no, but keep tuning
in and thank you for sharing your opinions on what we say.
But you don't really meet my criteria.
Sorry Chambers, suck it. But yeah, okay.
So my back is not broken. Just hurts.
But I'm tough like that. I'm built like that.
What's up with you, Kate? What's up with me?
Yeah, you got these new cozy pants, nice pants on.
They're actually built. You said I'm built.
These are built. That's the brand.
It's called built bylt built kind of like crown.
Right. Something about misspelling is
just really trendy these days. Yep, Crown isn't really
misspelled, it's just it 1 letters out.
OK. Is that So what?
It's no, it's misspelled. No, BUILT isn't BYLT that's that
is misspelled. What is Crown, then?
One letter's taken out. It's just it's the acronym for
the word. Oh yeah, What does Crown stand
for? Cinema really wins.
Now, hey, there we go. Cinema really wins.
Now, you just heard the acronym for crown organically put
together right here. And that's how it's done around
here. How to win in it.
Yeah, no doubt.
Early days. All right.
Anyway, so this episode Gray. We are watching Gladiator.
As a movie watcher, I am ashamed to admit that I've never seen
this. But you know what?
Everything happens for a reason there.
Listen, crucify me if you want, but at the end of the day,
there's a lot of movies out there in this world that we live
in. So, like, I'm sorry I haven't
gotten to them all. Okay, that's what I'm trying to
do right now. So what's funny when you haven't
seen a movie that everybody's seen, they're like, what?
You know, there's at least 10 movies they haven't seen exactly
that. You would say the same exact.
Exactly. They're like, oh wow, you claim
to love movies but you've never seen blah blah blah and I'm like
suck my nevermind. I'm not going to be mean, but
fuck you, I haven't seen it and you're getting an organic, real
reaction from me when I see it now.
And it's honestly a good thing when I haven't seen like a
popular movie, because I'm not going to.
Hold because I'm not going to hold back.
I'm excited for you to watch this one.
It's made in 2000. It's rated R This is a longer
episode for us tonight because it is a three hour movie.
That's all right. I got time.
It's my day off tomorrow. That's good about you, but
really, that's nice. Yeah, they gave me two days off.
I'll read you the description of it real fast.
Give it to Me set in Roman times, the story of a once
powerful general forced to become a common gladiator.
The emperor's son is enraged when he has passed over as an
heir in favor of his father's favorite general.
He kills his father and arranges the murder of the general's
family, and the general is sold into slavery to be trained as a
gladiator, but his subsequent popularity in the arenas
threatens the throne. Sounds awesome, so he punishes
the punished, so obviously Russell Crowe's.
Gladiator, I assume? Walking Phoenix.
Because I've seen like some scenes.
Walking Phoenix is the angry son.
OK, so like banishes him and makes him a slave, but to be a
gladiator just to get killed? But he's a fucking general dog.
Yeah, he get to fight. Yeah, no, it's it's weird.
A Gladiator for whatever reason may be.
I'm sure it'll change after seeing this movie, but whenever
I hear Gladiator, I always think of The Dude from 300.
When I think of Glady, I think of that guy like Sparta.
That's like the dude that comes in my head.
And I've only seen that movie one time, and I think I was like
15. Oh dude, oh dude, you got to
watch that one again then Oh. That movie's great, but, like,
there's no reason for that movie to be so ingrained.
Yeah, like, it shouldn't be such a core memory for me.
I remember watching and I was like, damn, this is insane.
But it kind of had that fever dream.
Feel to it like Mad Max did for me.
Yeah, you know, just this is about like, I love it, but it's
like this is a crazy way to make a movie.
Well, I mean, 300 was made like a it looks like a comic book,
almost like a graphic novel with the way it is.
The VFX are and the color grade, it's like harsh and rugged.
Yeah, you know, hard lines. So maybe that's why, you know,
it's just different, something different like that.
Mary can really make a movie just like kind of stick with
you. But no, I'm excited for
Gladiator. I know.
This was like, this is a huge movie.
I know it was like a big what awards is it won?
Did I assume I had to have won something?
Yes. Award for Best Actor in a
Leading Role. That's all I see now on the
front page of this Google search, but.
And that's Russell Crowe. Yeah, it was a directed by
Ridley Scott. Music Music Opposed by Hans
Zimmer. Oh, hundred $103 million budget.
OK, no wonder everybody tells me.
That I need to watch this. It's just an epic.
It's a classic, epic movie. Yeah.
Epic as in like this type of movie.
Yeah. So I had award for Best actor
and a leading role. Academy Award for Best Picture.
The BAFTA Award for Best Film, MTV Movie and TV Award for Best
Movie. Academy Award for Best Visual
Effects. And the list goes on and on and
on from a bunch of different, you know, organizations that
give out awards to movies. That's cool and all.
But hey, just like with every movie that I watch, I'm going to
go into it with an open mind. You should.
If I don't like this movie, I'm not backing down.
I don't care what you or anybody else says.
It's my God-given right? Don't come into this with a
negative attitude. I'm going into it with an open
mind. I I hope, I love it.
But I'm ready to not praying for the best, prepared for the
worst. That's what you got to do in
this life. So I'm excited for Russell
Crowe. Can't let me down to the damn
good actor Joaquin Phoenix. Damn good actor Ridley Scott.
He's an OG in the game. How could he let me down?
Hans Zimmer? Come on, this has the recipe.
Hans Zimmer, don't miss. This has the recipe.
We should be fine. You do you think do you think
Hans Zimmer cause like he his his resume is insane So do you
think that when he has to pick a movie like let me read off his
resume real fast. Interstellar Gladiator.
Dune. Inception.
The Lion King Dune Part 2. The Dark Knight The Last
Samurai. I get Kung Fu Panda Dunkirk.
The Da Vinci Code. Pirates of the Caribbean, Blade
Runner 2049 No Time to die So. So he's picking these like
hitters. The guys everywhere.
He picks out the ones that he knows they're going to be at box
office. You think they come with them to
the script and the movie, like, hey, could you score this?
And he's like, yeah, that movie sucks.
I'm out. Or if he's like or he's just the
lucky that he gets these good movies.
Or is it his music that makes these movies so good and iconic?
Or like, how is he always getting these, like, great
movies? Yeah, because we know.
We know how Tarantino makes his great movies.
He makes them. It's him specifically making
them. But if you're a guy that has to
score a film, you don't know what you're picking.
Like you could just accept the job.
Like, Oh yeah, I would do really.
Scott's Gladiator. I can't wait to watch it out.
And. Score it, you know, with Hans
Zimmer, I just, I think about like the movies that you listed
off that I've seen and they're all very like visually appealing
but also kind of different. So I I would assume like that's
probably like a big thing for him.
Like does he feel like his sound goes well?
With what's being put on the screen, just, I mean like the
visuals, like because he's an intense musical guy, like you
know what I mean? So I think what's on the screen
has to match like the energy of intensity that he always, like,
tries to put up because he just didn't.
He Did he do Oppenheimer? No, he didn't.
No, okay. I don't know why I thought he
did. It's probably just because, Oh
my God, I can't think of. The director's name?
Crisper Nolan. Crisper Nolan.
Like you know all of his movies, especially from like 2008 and
up, like they all kind of have like that same.
Yeah, like this. They all just like you can tell
it's a Chris Vernolan. The music is kind of feels the
same. And so I feel like that's just
whenever I find out that like Hans Zimmer.
Has done a movie. I was like, you know what?
Like that kind of fits exactly like the look that he's done
before. Yeah.
So I for me, I would assume it's what he sees.
And he's like, yeah, like, I get it.
But then again, Kung Fu Panda is totally different from The Dark
Knight. Yeah, yeah, those kind of
movies. I don't think you score them.
Maybe you do. I don't know, but it said music
composed by Yeah, that might be the same thing as scoring.
I don't know. Could have been, you know, I'm
sure there's an interview maybe with Lion King.
It was just something he always wanted to do.
Maybe he was like always attached to the original Lion
King. And you know, whenever he found
out that they were pretty much remaking another one, like he
what was the original Lion King? That's right.
Yeah.
I don't. I don't know.
I mean, that's an intense movie as well, but music does truly
have an insane effect on on the products.
Yeah, it changes everything. Vice has been releasing these
guides to film on YouTube. There's like these cool things
that go over. They did one in Tarantino.
They I watched one last night, like half of it on a John
Carpenter who did a lot of slasher films back in the day.
And he said when they first tested out the movie Halloween
that he made, people weren't scared by it because, you know,
back horror movies weren't a thing.
Is always monster movies. And so he made this slasher
movie. There's like a new thing in the
in the like, horror space, monster movie space, right,
Because it's not a monster. It's just a human killing
people. And so he said when somebody
else scored his movie, it wasn't scary.
People were like, this isn't scary.
This movie sucks. And then he went back and he
scored it himself and has the iconic, like, you know,
Halloween music. Yeah, and it changed the game.
Like, I think about everybody was like terrified after they
watched it because just by one simple change in the music.
Yeah, and you got to think about that.
I mean Jaws, yeah, Star Wars, like Darth Vader coming for me.
What always like stick out is Interstellar on Zimmer when he's
when they're on the planet and it's just like the water and
they think it's mountains and then they realize those are
waves. Those aren't mountains.
Those are waves. And like, the music just starts
to swell. Yeah, yeah.
Because this here's that, here's the song I was talking.
About Oh no, yeah. I couldn't think about it.
In my head I knew the vibe of, but I couldn't get the exact
thing in my head. I wanted to hear it.
But yeah, so I'm. I'm excited for Gladiator.
Does Gladiator have like a big song that people kind of?
I connect with it. I couldn't remember.
No, it's been. I haven't seen this movie in a
while. It's been some years.
It's been OK. Been a good amount.
All right. Well, that's good.
How many times have you seen this movie?
Probably less than three. It's either two or one.
It could be three though equal 2 or less than three.
Yeah, but through the span of your 23 years of life, you've
seen this movie two or three times, OK?
OK. So this will be fresh for you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen, yeah, I don't
remember a lot of it, so. That's a oh, I hope that's a bad
thing. Or I hope that's not a bad
thing. No, it's just been a while.
That's all it is. And it's a long ass movie, bro.
I can't remember every single scene in that movie.
OK, how long is this movie? Three hours 25250, Let's get it
on. Let's go.
And we're back. Strength and honor.
We just watched Gladiator. All right.
What are your initial thoughts? Geez, Joaquin Phoenix is a damn
good actor. Cuz I hated him in this movie.
Hate him and they do a good job making you hate him too.
Like from the beginning, you automatically do not like him.
I kind of, no, I I'll actually, I'll kind of disagree with that.
Just because that cane's chicken.
I felt bad for him at the beginning.
Like he was just like this crybaby that his dad didn't like
very much and but his dad also was like, yeah, I mean I also
wasn't like the best father. So that's why you ended up being
such a pussy. And I mean, I was just like,
damn, like poor guy. But then he kills his dad.
Nobody. But in the beginning, I didn't
like him just because when he shows up to battle late, he's
obviously like, hey guys, did I miss the battle?
He's like, you missed the war. Yeah, actually.
And he's just kind of being a pussy.
And he's like, you know, looks all weird and he's trying to
like help his father out. He can clearly tell that his
father's not down with him and by the you know.
The way that everybody else treated and treated Marcus
Relius and treated Maximus was very much high praise.
Yeah, so you see, like, damn, how is the guy that has high
praise hating his son? You're like, okay.
That guy's a piece of shit. Yeah.
There. Yeah, I mean, there was that.
But I just meant like when he was like telling his dad, like,
you listed out like some virtues that you think an empire should
have. And I don't have any of them.
But here are the virtues that I have.
He's pretty much saying, like, I'm not what you want.
But I mean, I still think I could get the job done.
And I was like, damn, he delivered that like pretty
nicely. So I, you know, maybe I could
rock with him. Well, and then he then he
strangles his dad, suffocates him.
And then I was like, oh, never never mind, this is going to go
horribly. And I couldn't have been more
right. Obviously, on top of the fact
that at the beginning of this movie I thought his sister was
his wife, then you realize very quickly that that is not the
case. And I'm pretty sure it could be
Roman times, it could be 2023. It doesn't really matter what
time, like incest is just overall pretty disgusting and
normal people. We're very much against it.
So like he was a weirdo on all on all accounts.
All accounts, yeah, he and you can.
As the movie progresses and you, as you start to hate him even
more because he keeps doing more and more despicable things, he
starts to look sicklier too. Like in that last fight scene,
he is pale, He's in a white suit.
He looks gross. Yeah, you know, he's got those
like baggy, dark eyes, Just scummy.
He looks like a scumbag. He looks like his dad at the end
of his, like, father's reign. So I think it's like kind of
alluding to the fact that, like, when when somebody with that
much power, like abuses it or gets too drunk of it, too drunk
off of it, like it just you can tell.
But his father wasn't greedy with the power.
No, not necessarily, but like his father even admitted, he was
like pretty much like all I'll be remembered for is having Rome
like involved in war for the however many years I was in
power. Well, no, he was asking.
He was asking him like what will I be remembered by?
By the all the wars I fought, by the philosophy that I've read,
read and taught. Will it be about this?
He's like, cuz he's talking about the things he's done
during his reign and he's like, what will I be remembered by?
Yeah. But essentially, like, that's
what history would remember him for.
He was like kind of acknowledging to me, it seemed
like he was acknowledging the fact like, I am a philosopher.
Like, I have like done all these things.
But for the most part, like, people are just going to
remember the fact because that is like what historians do for
the most part. Like when they're looking back
at these historical figures, they just look at was it a
peaceful reign or was it a time of war for them?
Yeah, well, I see what you mean by how the movie showed it.
But in real life, Marcus Relius is known for his philosophy.
Oh really? He's the biggest stoic
philosopher, Like I have his book actually up there like
Marcus Relius cuz he was a he was a king.
And towards the end of his reign, I don't know how
historically accurate this movie is, but I know that in real life
at the end of his reign is pretty peaceful.
He had like a pretty peaceful time watching over Rome.
And he spent a lot of his time journaling and writing out like
his thoughts and his, you know, beliefs on the world and testing
it out and talking to other Stoic philosophers because what?
So what Stoics is, there's a cool scene that in this movie
that shows this. I told you about it before, but
Stoics is so Marcus Shrelis was a Stoic what a Stoic is, is the
person. Like, they believe in
self-discipline and everything, even with your thoughts.
So they're always about positivity when even when you're
in bad times. Try to find the silver lining of
things is all like you're not in 100% control of yourself unless
you can feel happy in a miserable situation within
yourself. Like if you can bring that out
of yourself, you have complete control of yourself and you have
100% self-discipline. There's a other philosopher that
I've read about. There's a guy's name is Ryan
Holiday. He puts a bunch of videos on
Instagram about Stoics. I'll watch him.
He talked about this one. I forget his name.
Maybe Epictetus was his name. That's one of the philosophers.
He was like a slave, beaten, lost everything, family's gone,
was like drug through the mud like a bunch of horrible things
happened to him And through that pain he we was able to realize
that you could like just like what Everything, everywhere all
at one says like you can only make life is really only what
you make it don't you can't control everything.
So wherever you can't control, don't worry about it.
If you can't control it, then don't worry about it because you
can control it. So why don't you go fix it if
you're having a problem with it. So Marcus Realis was known for
his like. Philosophy and his gifts to the
world because that book he wrote, it's called Meditations,
and he essentially just wrote like his thoughts out on a
paper, like a diary and just kind of like what he's dealt
with, what it's like really ruling the most powerful.
I mean, 1/4 of the population was Roman.
So he's talking about how he ruled the world and the things
he dealt with, the struggles he had and just kind of outlined it
and he wrote it to himself. That book was never supposed to
be published. Like, he didn't write it for
anybody. He wrote it for himself and they
found it and then repurpose it to become a book, which is
pretty cool. So like all these years later,
we know him from his diary. And Ryan Holiday, the guy that I
was talking about earlier, he says that he thinks that Marcus
Reylas would be very embarrassed if those were out there because
it's just like his deepest honest thoughts.
But So what I was going to say about on this rant that I'm
going on, there's a scene in the beginning that shows the
perfectly. The stoic philosophy in like 2
shots and I hope one day that I can have enough skill to be able
to do something like that without somebody else telling me
or just being able to think about it, cuz it's a genius
filmmaking tactic. So obviously Maximus in this
movie is a student of Marcus Aurelius cuz he's underneath
him. Marcus Aurelius loves him.
So it's easy to infer that Marcus Fralius, I mean that.
Sorry, it's easy to infer that Maximus is probably a Stoic too.
There's a lot of signs of that throughout the movie because in
battle or whatever it is, he kind of always has a smile on
his face when he was first was a slave.
And they keep hitting him with that wooden stick to see if he's
going to fight or how good of a fighter he is.
He kind of gets up and smirks every time because he's like,
I'm not going to fight you. He can hit me all you want.
Like, I don't care. I'm not.
I'm not going to fight you. I don't just fight just to
fight. I fight for honor and strength,
right? That was the thing.
Honor, strength strength and honor.
There we go. So.
In the first scene of the movie, it's a close up on him.
You see like his hand going through the the field where his
house was because he's thinking about his home.
And then it cuts on his face and he looks over to the side and
kind of smiles. And it's a little bitty bird on
a like a beautiful like orange small bird and it kind of flies
off off this twig and it kind of looks up at it and smiles.
He's looking at the at the silver lining and what's about
to be as it zooms out, you see a giant.
Preparation for a battle where it's just going to be carnage
and war and destruction and blood and potential of death
where everybody be, everybody should be scared.
Probably. It's going to be a horrific
scene after it's done. So even before that, he's able
to get himself to focus on his family and he's focusing on that
little bitty bird that he saw. He just kind of taking a look at
the scene and looking at the good things out of all the
horrible things that are to come.
So that little, small little little scene is like a.
Deep dive into that character's thought process and his
philosophy. You can just uncover it from
there. Just that two shots, which is
pretty wild to me. I did not see this on my own.
I saw this on like a YouTube video the other day and I
thought that was just genius. So I'm not taking credit for
that, but that is a pretty amazing filmmaking technique
that they did there. Did a lot of research for this
movie, huh? Just that one scene.
Well, I just know about Marcus Raelias and him being in this
movie. I got a little back knowledge on
that and then I saw that a couple weeks ago.
Yeah, no, it's it's really cool connecting those ideas, yeah.
So you did. What did you did you think, did
it live up to the hive that you thought it would be, or was it?
Was it lower? Don't give me your score yet,
obviously. But yeah, no, I could.
I could totally see why this was like a big hit.
I mean, just the stories epic. The fight scenes are crazy.
I mean, who? Who doesn't love the Roman
Empire? Dude.
And anything about the Roman Empire?
Russell Crowe in this movie is a fucking badass.
He always is. He always is.
Even in like, his not so serious movies, he's still a badass,
like the nice guys. You watch that one with Ryan
Gosling. I love that movie.
He's not really, like a badass, but he's the tough guy.
Excuse me, You're on break. Yeah, no, this is.
You know what? I just don't realize this is a
good movie for us to watch. Because, like, right now there's
this big trend going on where girls are fascinated by the fact
that guys, like, think about the Roman Empire, like just every so
often. Like.
I mean, if you think about it, what they got Coliseum,
gladiator fights, the biggest empire in the world.
They've influenced a lot like on the societies that like we see
today. Yeah, I was going to say it's
not the Greeks created a democracy, right?
I think the Greeks create, not the Romans, They're going to say
the Romans. That's where democracy start,
Democracy started. But I think that's what the
Greeks yes, but the Republic still like picking out a Senate
and yeah, like the people, you know, pick out leaders like
there it wasn't a dictatorship essentially.
Yeah, that was. There was a lot of influence
obviously on that. But I mean it, you know, pretty
crazy stuff. I mean, they had gladiators and
we have. Football.
UFC fighters, too. UFC fighters, like, we're still
into that kind of stuff. Yeah.
I mean, I love seeing dudes like just get knocked the fuck out.
I start bleeding. I don't know how I'd feel if I
saw people dying. I don't.
Maybe we've been censored a little bit in that regard, which
is a good thing, but you know, definitely a lot of influence
from the gladiator fights. So I was thinking about this
during the movie. Back then, gladiator fights.
Gladiator fights were normal. People just watched them,
entertained by them. People just went in there to
die. So think about the UFC just like
10 years ago. They were able to grab each
other's Dicks. They're able to like head butts.
They could stick your their fingers in your mouth like it
was like a whoa sounds. I meant, like, pulling your face
and shit. All right.
No, no, no. Nice.
I don't know if that's actually accurate.
I just said that. I mean grabbing Dicks and
sticking fingers down their mouth, I mean.
Pretty kinky. I didn't realize the UFC was so
kinky 10 years ago. But it really was like like you
could literally do whatever you wanted to.
Mike Tyson bit a dude's ear off. Yeah, it was bare knuckle, but
that was the legal rules there, you know, Now we're like, wait,
no, they shouldn't do that. Like, why should they be allowed
to grab each other's Dicks? Like, this seems kind of fucked
up. So I've been thinking about,
like, what happens as we progress forward.
We'll like knocking somebody out.
Be like, oh, whoa, hey, we should not do that.
Yeah, concussion protocol. Yeah, so, like, I'm.
I wonder in the future if that's going to be an issue.
Like, we're going to look back at, Damn, we used to watch
people get knocked out. Those people were crazy.
Yeah. I can't believe they were just
watching them beat the shit out of each other and knock each
other out. Yeah, break arms.
Like what? Like the Romans, like looking
now they're just like, wait, there's no swords.
Like, you can't cut a man's arm off and then, like, strangle him
with it. Yeah.
What does society come to? I mean, back in my day, I mean,
you could really give somebody to work.
And that's the thing that you have sees you have to be the
best back then, you have to be the best because that's if you
if you aren't the best, you're going to die.
Yeah, unless the crowd likes you.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's funny because now, like, I mean, did you ever watch The
Hunger Games movies when you were a kid?
I. Read the I read the books when I
was a kid, too. Oh, nice.
Me too. You're pretty good.
They were good. But I just felt like such a
phony. Whenever he, like the OG
Gladiator told Russell, Crowe or Maximus, he was like, if you win
the crowd, you'll win the battle.
You know, whatever I was like, they stole that from Hunger
Games and I was like, I'm such a fucking child like that.
Hunger Games absolutely stole that from Gladiator.
Let's see. Hold on.
Let's see when did the. Yeah.
But let's see. Yeah.
Oh my God. But when did the book come out?
I'm sure they didn't copy this book, but I just want I'm
curious. They didn't.
That came out like well after. Yeah, came because this movie is
in 2002 thousand 2000. This book looks like came out
2008. Yeah, I was about to say, I
think it's close to 2010. Did I really read this as a 8
year old? No.
But the movie started coming out at like 2012 or 2013.
So like, you probably started reading it in 2012.
Yeah, because when they announced that the movie was
coming out, I think that's like when the books like started
becoming popular or more popular.
Yeah, but yeah, so they definitely kind of took that
from Gladiator just fine. I'm trying to think, what else?
What else about this movie? I love.
I love the. I love the fights get you hype
when the first fight when Maximus walks out, because he
hasn't fought once since he's been a gladiator and he's
literally a general. And back then, generals weren't
the guys in the back of the horses or they weren't the guys
in the computer room just directing calls.
The general was the guy that was leading the front lines of the
army. He's the best fighter.
The general was the best fighter, yeah.
And so he comes out, he's not going to fight nobody.
He don't care. But he's literally the general
of the strongest army in the world.
So he walks out on the gladiator field and he just fucking
hammers, hammers her ass. The second fight, he walks down
the line by himself. Nobody else got up with him.
I don't. I didn't.
Maybe I wasn't paying attention. Was he supposed to fight by
himself? Were they all supposed to go out
there and fight? I'm trying.
Which one? It was the second fight.
You get that, You watch it. Like, what is that when he
delivers the line? Like, are you not entertained?
Yes, yeah, that's when he just swipes the whole five man crew.
Are you not entertained? I guess he was supposed to be by
himself because I think maybe the guy like the the one that
owned all of the fighters realized like, OK, this is
probably my guy right here, so I need to, like, start getting
word around that this dude's an animal.
So like the second one might have been like his test.
Yeah, I don't know, but I I like watching him walk down the aisle
because it's it was similar to similar shot and like look of
how when he was walking out past the what's called a trench
before the battle, he's like walking past all of his men,
they would all stand up for him. This time they didn't stand up
for him, but he went out there and just whooped ass again.
Yeah, I said this during the movie, but like, I so I I've
never seen this movie, obviously until tonight.
But I always saw like the meme, the like, are you not
entertained? And I got to say in the movie is
pretty underwhelming the way he delivered that line versus the
way that I always like, read it in my, you know, just in my
head. Like, I thought it was going to
be like, are you not entertained?
But he was like, are you not entertained?
Yeah, I was like, wait, what? So I wonder how that actually
like became, I bet if Scott. Ridley knew Ridley Scott or
Ridley Scott. Sorry, there's a Kanye West song
where he like, says like, Scott Ridley.
Anyways, Ridley Scott. I bet if he knew that that line
was going to be super like way more popular than he intended,
he would have like chosen a way more impactful cut a more
impactful scene. Also, I think you got to think
about it too, as in the movie that scene wasn't a popular meme
when it came out. So that's line was probably a
way more impactful than it has been like brewed in your head
because you've it's you've been like thinking about it and heard
about it and expected it to be this giant thing because that's
spread across social media. It's yeah that's what I'm saying
is like I bet if he knew that that's like something that would
have been taken stuck. Yeah.
But I mean, it's yeah, but I'm just saying, I think.
If you never seen a meme before, that would probably be a pretty
impactful line. Oh, if I hadn't, Yeah, I I I
doubt it. Because because he's just like,
are you not entertained? Like it just wasn't really,
like, delivered that. Slice 5 dudes up and he's like,
are you not entertained? He didn't say it like that
though. He did.
No he didn't, he said. Are you not entertained like?
He did not just talk it. Yes, he did.
Like it was not that cool. We're pulling it up on my
screen. Record this, Yeah, I always have
trouble. Always have trouble syncing this
up afterwards. How much screamer like you just
screamed at the way that I thought he was going to scream.
If he had screamed it like that, that you know, it wouldn't be
that big of a deal. Alright, here we go.
Wait, hold on. This Max volume.
Can you not hear it at all? I.
Don't hear shit. Alright, hold on.
Yeah, what the hell. Oh, I know why.
I guess the people that uploaded this only did the left channel
of the audio. It just tripped me out.
Oh, I know. Because I was screen recording.
That's why I wouldn't do it. All right, I'm not going to be
able to pull it up, but we'll watch it after it is.
I think it is more impactful than you think it is.
It's not. All right, Fucking I'm doing it
right now. Yeah.
I'm sitting on the screen recorder.
I'll just add the part when I'm skipping ahead.
Are you not entertained? Are you not entertained?
He doesn't just talk, he's screaming it.
I wanted it to be. Are you not entertained?
Yeah. I know what you mean.
He's just like, are you not entertained?
Yeah. So yeah, he didn't talk it, but
like it should have just been like fucking Like he should have
been like screaming like, are you not?
Yeah, we got think about his character too.
He doesn't care about these fights.
He's like, he's like is that not what you wanted?
He's like being like he's the he doesn't want to do this.
He's not glad. He's not happy to be killing
these people. He's like, was, Yeah.
So he should sound like way more pissed, not more nonchalant.
I think that would have been just, like, more powerful.
But you're right hearing that versus like kind of how I
remembered it like it was a little bit more, but it still
wasn't like what I would. I see where you're coming from,
where you think it would be a lot more just because it became
this gigantic thing. But what else?
What else? I'm trying to think it's like a
three hour movie, so or 2 1/2. So it's like, kind of tough to
like remember. Yeah, I'm glad it wasn't 3 hours
that it was 3 hours but only 2 1/2.
I guess 250 is the adding the credits on.
Yeah, making a mental note after this movie.
Like from now on, like any movie over 2 hours, I'm going to start
like taking notes on. I've been there times where I've
written, I've written some things down to, yeah, there's
just like a lot to cover in this movie.
Even though like kinda. I mean it's I mean I will say it
is like a basic plot I mean. Yeah, it's an epic.
So it's a very simple structure. It's just like this happens to
this happens like let's watch how this, how this goes down,
but I guess you don't notice this either.
But a lot of time passes in the beginning.
So I was thinking about because I say that because I was
thinking about him when he kissed the lady, his like ex
lady, you know, the one he didn't married, not his wife,
obviously. His wife's dead.
Joaquin Phoenix. His sister, yes.
He kisses her at the end because you know, they used to have like
a thing and I was thinking like damn right after like your wife
just died bro. But I forget that a lot of time
has passed it, remember? His cut is a big symbol of that.
His gash is huge when he's traveling over from like when
they cut his arm. But as it when he gets hit by
the when he first gets hit by the wooden swords and that scene
when he's smirking at him, his cuss not there, it's already
been healed. Yeah, it's like that's been a
large time. And then like one thing I
noticed the second fight that we see, I think it's the second
one. It whenever it's like the actual
150 days of like fighting, like the second one that we see on
screen, the guy announces it's like the 65th day.
It's like, no shit, I'm doing 75 hard right now, like 65 days.
That's a lot that that's that's a lot of days to a guy like me
right now. So yeah, they're definitely like
fast forwarding a lot during this movie.
Dude, could you imagine being a slave?
Like you did something wrong on accident, or you got caught in
something fucking pissed. And now you're a slave that has
to go gladiator fight. Yeah, especially Russell Crowe's
character. Like, they just came by his
house that was burned to the ground.
His family, all the people working on his farm, they were
all dead. He lived.
And they were just like, oh, fuck it, We'll just pick this
guy up and make him a slave. Like, you know how pissed off
I'd be if not only did I get home to, like, my house on fire,
my wife, my kid dead, and then like everybody else that, like,
was a part of my life dead. And then, like, I passed out.
You know, maybe because I'm too enraged or maybe I got injured
or something. Well, he was tired, remember?
He like, literally. That was like falling asleep on
his horse. I was like, oh shit, I got to go
back, right? Right.
But I I'm talking about like, hypothetically if this actually
were to happen to me like tomorrow.
And then on top of that, like you pass out, you think like,
damn well it cannot get any worse than this.
And then you wake up and you're a fucking slave.
And it's like, wait a minute. And then you're not as a slave.
Now you're a slave that has to go gladiator fight to the death.
Honestly, if I were a slave, I think that's that might be the
way I want to go. I wonder how hard it would be to
get your mind. Like when you're in that
situation, he looked down at the first fight and the first guy
was pee in his pants because he was so scared to go out there
and fight. Well, think about just being
like a normal guy that's been made to be a gladiator because
like the general has No Fear. Because I mean, he just led like
5000 people, he. Spot way harder people than the
gladiators. But this guy piss in his pants.
All he knows is like out of those gates, there's one dude
with like a demon giant head around him, and then another
like ginormous Hulk looking dude with like a metal thing and like
these dudes to have weapons like, and he's just the skinny
scrawny guy. He's probably never seen a real
fight in his life, and he's chained to this psychopath next
next to him. And like he's having to depend
on that. So imagine you're that guy.
Or you're going to be that guy. How hard do you think it would
be to get your mindset just to be like, don't be scared, you
aren't going to die anyway, so why don't you just fucking and
turn into a rage monster? Like how?
Like, how hard would it be to just shut that fear off because
you're like, okay, I'm dying, it's.
But let's just, let's just go. Yeah, because I'm just looking
at these psychos and I'm like, dude, like, I hope it's quick.
I mean, damn like, I hope. I hope I just get my head
chopped off. That's the best.
Yeah. Like if you.
Get stabbed in the gut. You got to like wait for that
shit to have to to to bleed out. I hope I go into shock at least,
because then, like, if I get stabbed in the stomach, like,
then I just at least I don't have time to like, OK, fuck, it
happened. All right.
OK, just wait for the lights to shut off.
You know, well, I do know that chemicals get released in your
brain when you're dying and like, you have like pain
releasing stuff to like, pain numbing stuff.
So I do wonder when your body know.
Like, I wonder if your body will know, OK, I'm not recovering
from this one. I wonder if your body is that
smart enough to like either always be trying to heal
something no matter what's happening, or we're just kind of
like let go to where your brain just dumps stuff out of it and
you're like, you don't feel nothing anymore.
You kind of know it's there. It hurts, but you're kind of
like in a different state of mind where you're like, I'm
dying, like, yeah, this is it, yeah, here we go.
Like, I wonder if that's what happens.
So that way you know your death, death wouldn't be so miserable.
I don't know, because I've seen a lot of other like war movies
where especially like, I think like Saving Private Ryan, like
there's people with like guts like spilling out of them and
they're they are not looking so glorious.
No. So maybe it just depends.
But also could be stick. This could be sphere.
Yeah, you don't know. I mean, we literally cannot
answer this quick. We don't know if this nobody can
imagine, and I I can't imagine. I can imagine myself as a great
hero. I can imagine myself as a
superhero and I just fixed my problem.
Or I can imagine myself as pussy.
But who wants to do that? Nobody, not me, nobody wants to
do that. But I'm just thinking like, you
know, the guy piss in his pants. He's just like, I mean, how did
he, what did he do to deserve this?
I mean, Russell Crowe, they literally picked him up from a
burning house that was his and threw him in here.
Like, I wonder what this guy's bad luck.
Like what? Did he just, like, get too drunk
one day and, like, pass out outside of a bar?
He could have owed somebody money.
He probably could have been a deserter.
Nah, he would have been. If he's a soldier, he would have
been scared like that. Or if you are a deserter, maybe
he got one of the army was like dipped out before anything
happened. And that's why he became a
slave, because he's so much not a fighter.
You lose some and you lose some. Yep, especially if you're that
guy. Well, at least they had the
decency of not giving him an embarrassing death because the
dude puts in his pants. I mean, he got killed
immediately. Yeah, yeah, First death.
He's the first guy, his first death, and then his partner like
just chopped off his arm. So there was glory in his death.
Actually, yeah. At least he like made it quick
so the other guy didn't have to like, drag him around and like,
risk his life. Yeah, yeah, that's what you got
to do. If your guy dies quick, you got
to chop that arm off. And what's go time?
Yeah, like, no, Like, hey dude, you know what?
You you didn't deserve to be here.
Yeah, honestly, just finish the job yourself.
If the dude's like struggling behind and you're and you're a
good fighter, you're like brother man, I hate to break it
to you but that hand is mine. Here I got you like just go
ahead and take the head off first real quick.
Yeah, so save. Whatever you do, you just got to
do it as fast as possible. If you do, take the handoff
quick. Don't leave poor guy just
sitting there. Like, what the fuck?
Like, just go and just be like, all right, My bad.
My bad, bro. Yeah, so damn.
What's cool about Maximus is that no matter where he goes,
he's the leader and everybody rallies behind him and the the
whole entire army was willing to like.
Fight against the Emperor to fight alongside Maximus Cuz he's
such a respected leader and he's like a Dak Prescott.
I guess I don't. Yeah, okay he is.
Doesn't he suck though? No, he doesn't.
That's why you would be mistaken.
I'm sorry, did Maximus suck? No, no.
So then Dak Prescott sucking that that just wouldn't make
sense. Let's just keep it moving.
I was, I was just throwing that out there.
He's like a Dak Prescott, a very highly well respected leader and
one of the greats. But what were?
You saying one of the greats? What were you saying?
Everywhere Maximus went, everybody followed him.
Even in the last scene, stop shaking your head.
But I can't agree. I can't, all right.
But even in that second, in that one of the one of the final
gladiator fight scenes, he rallies all the guys together.
He's like, listen, if you guys follow me, we'll survive.
If we stick together, we'll survive and figures out a game
plan in the scene and they survive.
Pretty miraculously, like they get after it.
They only lost a couple guys. They're supposed to die.
They. Yeah, they were all supposed to
get slaughtered. Yeah.
Which is like, damn, Why Why do you even want that to be the
case? Well, because they're.
Reenacting things and they want people to die on the the
emperor, they just oh, it's a reenactment.
They were doing like a thing. That's what I That's why.
Commadus. That's name commadus Joaquin
Phoenix, he says. Like, am I mistaken or like I
thought? This person lost the battle.
They did like a reenactment. I thought the Barbarians were
supposed to die or something like that.
He said something like that, Yeah.
I didn't realize that they were like reenacting some kind of
story. Yeah, I think it was a show.
Oh, that's way cooler. Like they were gonna have the
slaves come in and get fucking slaughtered?
Like how how the Barbarians did or.
Yeah, I'm assuming it's like reenactment of a reenactment of
a Roman war. No, It might have been the
reenactment of the first battle. They were Barbarians.
Yeah, probably. It could be because like,
Maximus literally led them out on horses.
So maybe that's how he knew that, like if the Barbarians had
done this, then the Romans might have lost like that battle in
the first scene. But also, they're not doing,
they're not copying the battle strategy.
It's just they're just gladiators.
Yeah, but he like, I don't know. He might just be saying like if
he from experience he because okay in the first scene they're
like about to take over Germania and like he's the one leading
that. So obviously he was the one that
strategized how to do that. So maybe when he was doing all
this, he was like, okay, Like as long as they don't like stick
together and like stay as a collective, like, we should win.
Yeah. And they didn't cuz like, you
know, he was just smarter than them or whatever.
And then they might have been reenacting that as the first
battle in the gladiator games. And he was like, well, if I know
one thing, it's that in this situation like they're gonna use
my strategy against me. But I know what the weakness is.
Yeah, 100%. So maybe that maybe I mean that
could be the case. Cuz I mean, he is just a
general. He's just a badass general.
So he just knows how to fight wars.
Yeah, he's just a war genius. I just now that I'm thinking
about it like that first scene, like maximum the Romans came in
on horses and the Barbarians didn't have horses, they were
just on their feet. Yeah, so it could be.
Okay, that's just something like that.
Like just kind of trying to connect the dots here, cuz I
feel like that would be a better reference than just some random
battle that like us, the audience like have no idea what
they're really talking about. Yeah, but I do think that you're
probably right. One argument against that is
that. Maybe that battle they're
talking about was like a famous battle.
Yeah, because it is. I know.
I'm not sure of how historically accurate this movie is, but, you
know, there is some accuracy with it.
Yeah. Let's look it up.
How accurate is Gladiator? Because I don't.
I find it hard to believe that a general who became a slave that
became a gladiator killed an emperor.
I doubt that. History may not have happened in
the way the movie presents it. But the story itself is one made
out of some of the most significant stories that the
Romans themselves would have known and loved.
So yeah, it's just a Roman story.
It's not a real story, but it's just like a Roman story.
Yeah, an epic. Legend and history are
intertwined, and the success of the film is a testament that the
idea was a winning formula. OK, Speaking of the success, you
know you know that it was a $100 million budgeted movie.
What do you think this thing's box officed?
Russell Crowe, I mean. Russell Crowe, Is he the guy?
Yes, he's the guy in 2000. Yeah, he if he's strong in a
Ridley Scott with Hans Zimmer in the 2000s, he's the guy.
He's the guy, OK, 2000s, hundred, $100 million budget.
They said it was a success formula.
So like how much success do you think, I mean what 200 mil?
$500 million, Half a billion dollars.
Box office. Gotcha. 5X on their money right
there. I mean, dude, like this is a fun
movie. I mean, I feel like as violent
as it is, you could still go see this, like with your parents,
like, even if you're a little kid.
It's a it's a great movie to watch.
It's a classic movie that probably won't ever get old
because it's long. Yeah, and there's a lot of great
scenes to me. Okay, I still, and I know this.
I don't know if this is really much of a conversation, but
like, I'll still take Troy over Gladiator.
Really. Yes.
Now I think Troy got too high for me, so when I watched it, it
didn't live up to it for me. I liked it.
No, don't get me wrong, it was a great movie.
I like to watch Troy is one of the dopest movies ever.
And plus brother Brad. Brother Brad, he's a badass in
that one. He's badass, but then fuck the
other guy. Not Orlando Bloom, but the other
dark haired dude. I don't remember.
I can't remember, but he's a badass too.
Like, I just, I thought, I think Troy's better.
That's just my opinion though. This came out in 2004.
There's a lot of these, like, classic, you know, ancient
stories. Yeah, like Troy Gladiator.
What else is there? There's some other ones that
came out around that time, Hector, yeah.
They mentioned Hector. Yeah, I remember that.
So I I guess Troy happens before.
Yeah, because Ancient Greek, because I think it was way
before the Romans. Yeah, but I still.
I'll take Troy over gladiator. But I like Gladiator.
The classic Has your dad seen this one?
Would your dad like this one? I'm not sure.
I bet he would. Maybe I'm trying to amine.
My dad's never shown me a classic like Roman Empire movie,
so maybe not. I don't.
I don't know if he would. I'm gonna look up.
I'm gonna look up some other those classic epic movies.
Star Wars. Wow.
No, I guess so. Kind of.
It's not accurate. It's not real, but it's about an
empire. There's an empire in there.
It's an empire. Oh Braveheart.
It's been a long time since I've seen that.
That's a good one. RP Heath Ledger seeing that one.
No, it's Mel Gibson. That's too it's too old for.
1995 what? No, I think Heath Ledger is in
Braveheart. Oh, is he?
Yeah, I think he's the son. I think he dies.
Oh, let's see. I don't see Heath Ledger.
He would be up at the top if he was in here.
Yeah. No, Heath Ledger and Braveheart,
because this is an older movie. He's out in 95.
That's a three hour movie. That's a three hour movie. 3
hours. I think he's just too long for a
movie. It's 2 1/2 is like that's about
the Max. You should go.
What are you looking up? Was he not in Braveheart?
Yeah, he was. No, he was.
Was he? Am I tripping?
It could be a different movie. You're thinking of look up what
Heath Ledger is in. Heath Ledger, Let's see.
You're thinking about Brokeback Mountain, bro.
I'm not thinking of Brokeback Mountain.
You're thinking of the Patriot, yes.
Yes, there we go. Yeah, that's another one of
those. Like Mel Gibson, Russell Crowe,
I guess. Brad Pitt, The Patriot, I feel
like, would kind of go along with this kind of movie.
Yeah, yeah, it's been a long time since I've seen it.
Damn, I don't know why I got so fixated on that.
But yeah, that's pretty. Why, I bet it's kind of crazy
that you have to like as an emperor like that the mob is
like your control, like you. You're kind of.
I mean Commodus is like such a weak leader because he just got
into it. He's doesn't really have any
good values. He's not really having any like
plan or vision for Rome. He just kind of like wants to be
at the emperor and so he's kind of just at at the pool of the of
the crowd. Yeah.
What's interesting about that is even though he's like we just
with this pool of the crowd, like he'll kind of do whatever
they want him to do, Maximus doesn't.
Maximus is genuinely himself the whole time he's.
I don't give a fuck what the crowd says.
That crowd says kill him. So and then obviously communist
is like, yeah, kill him. I'm with the crowd and he's
like, no, fuck that. Throws his acts away and then
that. I think the crowd kind of feels
maximus, like how he's being real, like he's the only real
person out there. They know that the emperor's
lame. Yeah, well, I mean Joaquin
Phoenix. I mean, poor dude.
He's got daddy issues. So I do wonder if Mark Trellis
in real life was a bad father. Being the king of the world, I'm
sure you don't have much time to raise your children, you.
Should, though? I mean, holy shit, do you know
how much I would emphasize? Like if I was a person living in
this time, I'd be like, Oh my God, please pay attention to
your son, because if you don't, he's just going to suck like you
and he's going to have a fuck ton of power at some point.
Exactly like, dude, this is the future.
Like you definitely have to invest time in that.
So, like, I'd be really pissed if I found out that my emperor
just didn't talk to his son. I'd be like, bro, That should
have been like, like, he should have just been with you
everywhere you went, essentially.
Like, by the time he was, what? Probably like, 10-11, like,
dude, this dude, because you're an emperor and we're in the
Roman Empire. Like, you could die by the time
you're like 25. And honestly, like, we would be
like, damn, what a great life. So.
When your son's like 10 years old like it, it's time to get on
that. But think about this.
This is something, something from the beginning that makes
you not. That made me not like walking in
Phoenix's character Commodus is because when he rolls up to the
battle, we know that Marcus Aurelius is already dying, but
he's there on a horse at the battle.
Your young 20 year old son can't be there on the battle to come.
Fight alongside you to honor you.
You're going to be riding up, you know, comfortably in your
little horse drawn carriage. That's something else you're
like, dude, wow, that guy's a loser.
His old dying father is there at the battle scene.
But maybe nobody had the balls to tell him, Like, hey, actually
this is probably like what you should be doing.
Well, I'm what I'm saying is, I wonder if that's why Marcus
Aurelius knew that his son couldn't be the king.
Why he kind of like didn't talk to him too much is because he
didn't want to come with him to these battles.
He was too scared as a kid. He's like, alright, fine, you
can stay at the castle. Now you got to have that
teaching moment like, hey, dude, can't be a pussy.
Got to be in charge of the whole empire.
All the people. Did you not hear me?
Quarter of the world. That's ours.
Get your shit together and get on this horse.
So no, I'm not. I'm not giving him that.
But yeah, I mean, poor dude like his dad didn't like him.
His sister sure as hell didn't like him for good reason.
And so all he wanted was just like this big party, but at the
same time, he also just, like, didn't give a damn about the
people because, like, he just, I don't think he really cared.
So no, when you get, when you're like, when you grow up that
young and you're the King's son, nobody treats you like a real
person. You're always right.
Exactly. Always.
That's. What you're saying like he
didn't know he had to be on that battlefield?
Because if his dad never told him then.
I doubt he, like, had anybody else that would have the balls
to be like, hey, dude, like, everybody kind of thinks you're
acting like a pussy right now. Like you might want to get on
that battlefield, you know, Yeah, that's what sucks about
those kids or you know, having that much power is that not many
people treat you like a human, like celebrities.
Everybody just kind of just wants to brown nose you and
yeah, say whatever you want to hear.
They won't be honest with you. They won't give you like any
honest feedback about anything because they just want to please
you. Terrible.
That's why I think it's important for you to keeps keep
some core friends that don't give a fuck about your status.
Yeah, if you become that powerful.
Because they'll they'll set you straight.
They'll tell you what's up. Amen.
All right, what is your rating? First timer.
I'll give this movie. Give it a 7.2.
That's pretty low. I'm gonna give it to you.
I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna tie it with this is
everything or everything, everywhere I want.
So I'm giving it an 8. It's pretty high.
No it's not. It's pretty damn high 7.2.
I want I need to keep tracking of your score so we can compare
these. I need to keep track of every
time that I give you a score you don't like that.
You say you're going to start keeping track of my score.
It's true. I think 7.2 is fair.
I don't know. This movie is a I think it's
above above. A 7.2, obviously, yeah, yeah,
put it simply, yes. Yes, you think it should be
what? Between 7.5 and an 8?
Yeah, I think that's too high. Why?
OK, so here we go. What did you not like by the
movie? What did I not like Taking you
while? Sounds like this movie is an 8
in your eyes. No, I'm just trying to figure
out how to put this delicately, but I mean for a movie like
this, I just, I don't like how rushed it is, I think.
Any story that like, takes this long, like it kind of sucks to
see it be put in movie form. So I don't like how you don't
really get like a sense because like 65 days that this dude's
been a slave. I didn't even catch that.
Yeah, and he's been in these games like if we were to watch,
if we were to watch this in like A Game of Thrones, like you see
so much happen during those days, like.
You know, so like, I just realizing that just seeing like
how far we've come with TV shows and movies and whatnot today, I
think that's just not really doing it enough justice.
Like, he could be a totally different person by the time,
like the second fight starts in the gladiator, you know what I
mean? Like he could have already been
through like so much. He could have lost way more.
So there's that. And it's just like kind of like
time. I think they could have.
I think there there definitely is in this movie.
Some things I wish I would have seen, like you bringing that up
made me think of like, yeah, they could have just
accomplished what you just said and solved that issue by just
having a montage. Give us a fucking badass
montage. Yeah, show us like what did he
have to go through to get to cuz he finally meets Joaquin
Phoenix. Like by the time you met him, I
was like, you know, we're on like day 60 something.
It's been probably. It's probably taken him years to
get to this point because he had to, like, get famous through all
these, like some trashy, yeah. Like Guerrilla Warfare,
gladiator stuff. Like, I probably took years to
really, like, get that going, I said.
It could be pretty quickly with just a few battles, because if
you clean, if you clean house in a battle and they're like, damn,
this guy's good, let's give him some somebody that's good.
If he's if he's taking up big names, that his name immediately
becomes big. Well, yeah.
But you also have to understand, like these gladiator fights that
he was in initially are illegal. Oh, really?
Yeah, I missed that. Yeah, because Joaquin Phoenix's
dad banned them. He got rid of them, and then he.
Joaquin Phoenix. What is his name is Amber
Comodus? Comodus Yeah, comodus brings
them back and then Maximus's master.
The the original gladiator or whatever was saying, like, I
think it's funny that, like the son is bringing back what his
dad, like, always wanted to get rid of.
Oh damn, I missed that. I don't know how I missed that
one. So that's a big detail.
Yeah, so like it took years probably.
Like, I I don't know. Like I just think for a three
hour movie, just to put it all in one movie over like years and
years of time and then not really even explain to the
audience like. Like, you didn't even pick that
up. Like, they should definitely,
like, make that more of a thing. Like the three years later.
That goes a long way, yeah. Simple little title screen,
something montage. I'm I'm a big fan of montages.
Personally, I love. Montages.
Good. Because you can like do all this
and like, explain like, yeah, it's been like six months or
it's been a year, 65 days, whatever.
Like you can just do that. And like, the audience will be
like, damn, OK, he's like seen a lot.
Like, yeah, you know, so I think so there's one, there's one
thing why it's a 7.2. Damn, I got so stuck on that.
Before I, before we get off, I was going to say like, I love a
good montage and one of my favorite movies is Rocky.
Four and literally half that movie is in montage.
Yeah, because I got like, so that thing right there, I'm
pointing it to Gray and I'm showing him this like picture
that thing on the top of the all the lines.
Oh yeah. So that's upside down.
So imagine horizontal, upside down, it's vertical.
So imagine horizontal. That's Mercedes gave it to me.
That's every frame of the Rocky Four movie.
It's every single frame compiled together.
It's just a cool thing she found like on Etsy.
So the white part, the white lines, like the white chunks,
that's when he's in Russia, Okay.
So thinking, look how thick that is in Russia.
That's a big thing. And then the rest of the bottom
half is all the fight because after the montage, they fight,
and the majority of that fight scene is just a montage.
So like, literally half of that movie is the montage.
Yeah, which I think is hilarious.
That's awesome. Genius.
Alright, So what else did you not like about Gladiator?
That was my big thing. Damn, I don't know.
Why am I kind of struggling to remember I had something else.
So you didn't like how the progression wasn't shown and
just emphasized? Yeah, it wasn't emphasized.
And so, like, it felt just like kind of rushed.
I can see where you're coming from, like.
How Maximus actually meets Camelas or whatever his name is.
Think about common but comma dus.
Oh comma Dus. Yeah, so Maximus finally meets
comma Dus, like in the arena, like with his nephew or
whatever. And in reality.
Maximus has probably been working for years to get to this
point, but we've only seen it in probably like 30 minutes.
Yeah. And so you don't really feel the
intensity that I think they could have done a better job
explaining like how intense it really was that he's finally
seeing him First off after the battle in Germania.
Like, I bet it took him so. Long to get home.
Oh yeah, That's like half the battle is trying to get to the
battle. So like, you know, he did that
in 5 minutes if that. I think it was like maybe a 3
minute. Just him on a horse.
But it like, dude, that was probably months and months of
traveling. Yeah, that makes you think about
what if like when you live in that time, you know that the
life expectancy was smaller and it also took you longer to do
things, so your life really was way shorter than it is now.
You can get so much more accomplished.
There's no like message. But then so like that, there's
way, so much more accomplished in today's age.
I'm gonna finish that thought. Yeah, but there's so much more
like gravity of the situation. That like when he does finally
make it home. It's been months, probably weeks
at least of him on a horse, just going as fast as he possibly
can, camping, praying to God that his family like hasn't
died. And then he finally gets home
and like he just missed them. Like he if he had, maybe if he
had just stayed up one night longer or not gone to bed an
hour earlier, like he could have, like, saved his family.
That would suck. That would suck way harder than
realizing that. Like, damn, I just missed my
family. Like by moments like if I had
just pushed myself a little bit harder, I could have beaten them
and saved them. Just some something else.
But it's brutal. Regardless, great movie 7.2
movie. So is above A7 a really good
movie? I think above A7 is me saying
like you should watch this. You give him some movies, some
good ones that are a six. Like what?
I think you gave days confused like a six or something.
It's a good movie. What's your what's like a great
movie to you? What What would you rate a great
movie? Something over an 8.508 point.
Damn. So eights can be all right. 8 is
like, damn, you should totally see this movie.
But if you don't like it, I get it. 8.5 and above is like, dude,
this is one of the best movies ever, and if you disagree,
you're just wrong. Yeah, like I've never heard
anybody that never liked Django Unchained.
Exactly. Not a single person's ever
disliked Django Unchained. Yeah, Django Unchained is
probably 9 to me. Yeah, I don't think I can give a
movie A10. No.
There's no perfect movie. Nothing's perfect in this world.
Is there a 9.9? No, cuz Django is my favorite
movie ever and I'd give it a nine.
Yeah, I probably give. I maybe give like a 9.2.
Yeah, I'll give it a nine point, something like 9.5.
I've never seen a 9.5. We'll do an episode on it at
some point and secure the secure the rating after we freshly see
it. Absolutely, for the 15th time.
Yeah, no kidding. But yeah, I'll give it at some
.2. You can give it an 8.
So it's the same as Everything Everywhere all at once.
Did I give it a 7.2? I think I did.
No, you gave it an 80, right? What'd you give it?
I forgot you gave it an 8 point something.
One of my favorite movies I've ever seen.
I think you have an 8.6. I loved it.
If you don't like that movie,
then you're wrong. That's a good movie.
All right. Any anything else you want to
say? Any close the Roman Empire?
I'll definitely be thinking more about the Roman Empire.
Yeah, shout out to the ladies who whose minds are just going
to be blown, but this is the world we live in.
We're heavily influenced by the Roman Empire.
They did great things. RIP Maximus.
Fuck you, Joaquin Phoenix. He can play.
He can play Some people that suck.
Yeah, sure. The Joker.
With that being said, though, I do want to see him playing
Johnny Cash. You haven't seen that movie.
Oh, I love that movie. So coming soon, honestly.
Honestly, I like watching. I like listening to Walking's
versions of some of Johnny Cash's songs.
Really. He's good like that.
Only because, truly, only because some of Johnny Cash's
recordings are just old. They don't sound as good.
Walkie Phoenix sounds like Johnny Cash and it's just newer
and the music is fuller. It seems like there's more
drums. It's just like a little bit
better quality. So I prefer to listen to that
sometimes because, you know, the old recordings just sound dry.
You know, empty sort of walkings are legit.
But there are some Johnny Cash songs that I much prefer.
Johnny Cash. Yeah, well, we'll get to the
we'll get to that movie one day, I'm sure.
One day. All right.
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We have a new sign that Gray sitting behind right now.
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All right. Thank you guys for listening.
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