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What's everybody? 
Welcome back to the Crown Cinema

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podcast. 
In this episode we are breaking 

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down and. 
Literally just watched. 

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The Passion of the Christ, 
Easter weekend, Easter Monday 

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Well. 
Yeah, dude, I'm a little nervous

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in this episode. 
No, I you know, this is 

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literally the time to do this 
one. 

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True. 
Also our first time watching it.

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Yeah, I've never seen this movie
before. 2026 years old and never

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seen it. 
It's one of those where like 

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growing up it was like kind of 
always offered. 

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Like a lot of people are 
watching this movie at this time

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of year. 
Always a Good Friday. 

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That's usually when people watch
it, yeah. 

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We're watching it the Saturday 
before Easter. 

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Yeah. 
And just it like growing up, it 

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was one of those were like, I 
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was like, I'm not ready. 
I'm really like, I'm not ready. 

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Like I, I, it's just one of 
those like, you heard how brutal

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it was. 
And so people would tell me 

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like, yeah, dude, like you need 
to watch it. 

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I was like, yeah, one day. 
And today's the day. 

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Yeah. 
And today was the day, you know,

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26 years old. 
And I, like, kind of woke up 

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today. 
I was like in the shower. 

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And I was like, OK, this is like
an important film. 

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I need to really lock in and, 
like, watch this one, you know? 

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So, Passion of the Christ. 
It's brutal. 

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Yeah, it's one of those were 
like as hyped up as it is, it is

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as brutal, if not more. 
Brutal, but you kind of have to 

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do it if it's not, I mean, 
because it's hard when you read 

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like the Bible and the stories. 
It's it's more like a an account

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doesn't go into details. 
It just kind of gives you just 

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what happened, right. 
And so it's hard sometimes a 

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picture what that was like or 
when they like in the Bible and 

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they say he was flogged. 
Yeah, we don't know what that 

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is. 
We, you know, me and you aren't 

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historians. 
We don't know what Romans did to

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torture people. 
So we don't really know what 

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flogging is, Right. 
But then you see it, You're 

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like, oh, my goodness. 
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And so seeing that brutality of 
it, you, you have to do it 

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because it just opened your mind
and realized like, wow, this is 

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what this is what went down. 
This is how brutal it was. 

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Yeah, this is one of those like,
I don't even know. 

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I was just thinking like 
watching this, watching this 

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movie, and I, I think this is as
accurate as you'll probably ever

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see on the on the big screen. 
The only inaccuracies is she 

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doesn't hold him afterward. 
I don't think when Jesus is 

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crucified, those are the things 
that there's like more creative 

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liberty. 
But she was, she's around like 

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in the area, right? 
Like she. 

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She was with him during his 
ministry and she was with the 

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crew a lot of the time. 
She would go home sometimes, but

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she was involved. 
She sees him like for sure, like

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the night before he yes, is 
taken right. 

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I think so there there's 
something like that. 

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I feel bad. 
I mean we're not going to be 

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like totally accurate here. 
I'm not, you know, I, I do 

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believe in what is being said 
here in the message, everything,

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but I'm not like well versed in 
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I'm not well versed yet, I'm in 
my studies now. 

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Yeah, I especially after 
watching this, it's like, all 

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right, I need to lock in a 
little bit more. 

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The real heart of it that every 
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never I I'm just not a crier 
during movies. 

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I'm a crier. 
You are a crier. 

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And I'm not like I'll get choked
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throat, you know, like when that
cry is coming, it's like it just

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in your throat. 
Dude, tears come for me. 

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I'm just they come out. 
I'm just not a cry. 

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It takes, I don't know. 
I don't cry very often. 

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Like I'd, you know, obviously 
cry sometimes, but it's rare 

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that I cry. 
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cry, but like tears were welling
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But it's and it's every time you
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Yes. 
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that making that a focus of this
movie helps you really 

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understand like what this was 
having a mother have to watch 

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her son go through this. 
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So I'll kind of like just going 
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First off, when I was talking 
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talking about the brutality of 
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But yeah, I did not realize 
that, like, going into this 

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film, I thought it was just 
straight up two hours watching 

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Jesus get beaten, right? 
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But there's a lot of really cool
callbacks to, like, just kind of

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let you understand, like, good 
flashbacks. 

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It's not done in a corny way. 
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Yes. 
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impressive filmmaking, like just
how it's how it's executed. 

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Because it's like it's cool 
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chronologically Jesus would say 
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Then we watched, you know, the 
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before. 
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flashes back first and then you 
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to Jesus and then it flashes 
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happen. 
It just make holds that weight 

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of like when he's smiling and 
I'm going to give my life for 

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you. 
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cross. 
You're like, oh, that was. 

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That's a heavy burden that 
nobody really understood. 

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Yeah, what that really meant. 
I'm thinking like the way that 

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this film was made, like it's 
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it shows like the you're just 
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what's happening, like, you 
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Yeah, the 12 hours before he 
dies, right? 

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And Mel Gibson doesn't give you 
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And so like, the significance of
that for me is like, everybody 

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has heard of this story. 
This is like the story of 

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stories, right? 
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But like, I love how kind of the
atmosphere of the film, like 

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showing the people showing like 
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Everybody knows that what is 
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Gibson does a good job of 
showing like, and it kind of 

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ranged through today. 
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they're like very high stakes of
like just everything politically

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with with war, just everything. 
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what's going on, you can feel 
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And that I feel like Mel Gibson 
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because like the conversations 
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Pilate and all that, What, what 
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The Pharisees and all the 
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Oh yeah. 
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conversations happening and 
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these callbacks and things that 
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you're familiar with, but it 
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clear back story of Jesus and 
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And so I just, I, I thought that
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like showing you in the moment, 
if you're somebody that doesn't 

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really understand what's 
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the weight of the importance 
that like, OK, this isn't 

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normal. 
This isn't a normal crucifixion.

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Like there's like a potent, 
there's like a spiritual war 

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happening above us. 
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done really, really well. 
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movie, there's no credits, 
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Nothing pops on screen. 
You're just in the story. 

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Yeah. 
And yet you from the moment that

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you start, you just feel the 
weight immediately. 

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Yeah, like I'm thinking we just 
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before, like you said, like this
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But typically in those films you
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this is where we are, this is 
what's happening. 

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You don't have to do that with 
this story. 

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Nope. 
Yeah, you just feel it. 

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They do an interesting thing 
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A lot of it shot in the higher 
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frames per second they normally 
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frames a second. 
That's like natural movement to 

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get a natural blur. 
They shoot most of this movie in

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a higher frame rate to have this
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it's slower at times or it's 
just you just feel like it's 

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slow motion because of the 
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You don't see the motion blur, 
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the weight of what's happening 
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So that helped. 
It visually tells you the weight

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by the way they filmed it by 
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I think that's like, Oh my gosh,
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Just like a long brutal movie 
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this was. 
Like, I can't nobody, nobody in 

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our comments section for sure 
has ever gone through anything 

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close to. 
This. 

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No, nobody. 
Yeah, this is. 

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This is. 
I don't know why I just called 

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out the comments section, I'm 
just saying. 

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Like nobody in our. 
Conversation. 

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I'm just saying, like, I think I
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that kind of hates on, like, 
what we're talking about, like 

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just picking this movie. 
It's like, it's just really 

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weird to, like, watch that. 
And like, even in some of the 

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more intimate moments of, like, 
Mary and Mary seeing Pontius 

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Pilate's wife. 
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And like, while that kind of 
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moment is happening, you still 
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And that's like after 5 minutes 
what feels like forever, but 

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it's like 5 minutes of just 
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That's a whole scene. 
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that moment, but you still hear 
them going and, like, you feel 

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it still every time that he's 
getting slapped while they're 

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still having like, this 
beautiful moment of Pilot's wife

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giving them the, like, a towel. 
Like it's just that it chills, 

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honestly. 
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And it hurts. 
But yeah, I will say every time 

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that Mary the mother is shown on
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Tears. 
Open opening the store, you 

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know, it's only the first, it's 
only the 12 hours before his 

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crucifixion. 
And so starting it at the 

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betrayal, you know, that's the 
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betrayal. 
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adds to that weight of what's 
about to happen because he knows

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what's going to happen. 
He's all he's God, he can, he 

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knows what's going to happen, 
but he's still he's 100% man and

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100% God. 
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everything, a human emotion, the
fear. 

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Like if imagine if you were in 
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you would be pooping your pants 
for and keep it clean. 

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So I'm trying to keep it clean. 
I mean, it makes sense like 

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showing him just so nervous 
before that happens. 

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You're like, that adds to the 
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what's coming and seeing God be 
scared, you're like, Oh my gosh,

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this is going to be crazy. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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Just it's just, you know, the 
human element. 

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I'm getting to watch Jesus in 
like on screen, like with the 

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chosen TV show or even or the 
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Seeing him as a human because he
was a human makes it more 

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relatable where the you can just
feel the weight of that so much 

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more. 
That's why especially. 

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I mean, this actor crushes it. 
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Just nuts. 
This entire movie, it's one of 

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those. 
And I've told this story before,

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but like, I got a chance to work
on The Chosen and I saw Jonathan

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Rumi. 
That's right. 

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I like was in they so on that 
set, like they build the city 

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and I was only part of it for 
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So they were only doing stills. 
But like, just see, it's one of 

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those really strange moments, 
and I know that this film in 

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particular has some of the 
craziest things. 

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I'll get into that next. 
For sure. 

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But like just seeing that in 
person, like they showed one of 

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the things that I was a part of 
is like, and it was the final 

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scene of like the whole time I 
was there and it was like a five

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day shoot. 
And these actors take what they 

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do very, very seriously, which I
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something of this magnitude, 
you, you have to, this is way 

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too important. 
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I was a part of was Jonathan 
Jesus saying goodbye to his 

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mother before he gets crucified 
the next day or before 

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everything just happens the next
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And it was just for stills. 
It wasn't even for like the 

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scene for the TV show. 
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for like 20 minutes. 
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that, he was like the funniest 
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talking to everybody on set. 
P as 80s. 

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Grips. 
You were his guy, right? 

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I was, I was, yeah, like, I was 
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really make sure, you know, he 
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then, you know, he was, I was 
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I was like, not the second AD, 
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helping out with talent a little
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Jesus, it was really, really 
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And all it was was for like 30 
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that was playing marry his 
mother. 

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All they did was just like hug 
each other and sob. 

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For the photos. 
Yeah, for photos. 

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And so this guy in the Passion 
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Caviezel, like kind of the same 
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screen, like just it literally 
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seeing like you're saying, the 
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like begging God, like really, 
do we have to do this? 

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Why do we have to do this? 
You know, what's the, you know, 

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it's obviously so important that
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you're like, really like, 
there's no other way. 

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Yeah, it's just powerful when 
he's like. 

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And he nails. 
It yeah, when he you know, ask 

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God, I think the the line of my 
Bible, I think it says can you 

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something wrong along the lines 
of I'm paraphrasing this like 

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can you take this cup from me, 
the cup that I have to drink of 

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doing this deed to save 
everybody sins. 

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He's like, can you please take 
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But I will do your will, not 
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It's like, I don't want to do 
this. 

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If I don't have to do this, 
please save me. 

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But if this is your will, I'll 
do it. 

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Yeah. 
So you know he's asking for 

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something, but still turning to 
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what you want me. 
To do yeah, I it's interesting 

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to to to see the human aspect 
from 1:00. 

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This was not my recommendation 
for Easter. 

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Don't know why it wasn't my 
recommendation. 

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I wanted to watch the the Martin
Scorsese film. 

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The last temptation of Christ. 
Right, with Willem Dafoe. 

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And I think we should at some 
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although I don't know really 
what it looks like, but it is an

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interesting thought to think of 
like the man side of Jesus 

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having a temptation to like, 
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what if I had just not been the 
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What if I could have just 
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You know, just thinking of that.
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interesting that, like, I, I've 
seen that that was like a very 

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controversial film when it came 
out. 

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Like people were burning 
theatres because they were like,

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you know, like hardcore 
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theatres. 
Blasphemy. 

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Yeah. 
But in this film, you still see 

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that he does not want to do it. 
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maybe that is something that 
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just just to the man's side of 
them. 

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The one thing I'll say I don't 
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Jesus would have had that 
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Sermon on the Mount, what he 
preaches is like, if you, you 

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know, yes, murders. 
I'm paraphrasing all this. 

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If murder is a sin, yes, but I 
say if you have hatred in your 

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heart towards your brother, you 
committed murder. 

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It's the same thing. 
It's in your heart. 

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So if Jesus has lust for a 
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as if he did the ACT. 
Jesus is a sinless man. 

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So, you know, I don't think that
would have been in reality. 

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I don't think that would have 
been one. 

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Of those tactics. 
And that's not even that, that's

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not what I'm saying. 
I'm just saying like it would be

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interesting to kind of look into
like that interpretation. 

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Yeah, I mean it. 
It tells you at the beginning of

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that movie. 
I'm pretty sure this is a 

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fictional thing. 
It's not based on the Gospels. 

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This is a fictional story about 
Jesus. 

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Because that's not, I don't even
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Scorsese or that might have been
the first time. 

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But like, that wasn't the last 
time that he touched 

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Christianity as like a topic for
a film. 

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He did one with Andrew Garfield,
which I, I do want to watch. 

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And I think it's about, you 
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Christianity. 
Because Scorsese is a Catholic. 

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Is he? 
I don't think I knew that. 

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I believe he is silence. 
That's right. 

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What's it about? 
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missionaries Father Sebastian 
Rodriguez, Andrew Garfield and 

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Father Francisco Garupe Adam 
Driver embark on a perilous 

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journey to Japan to find their 
missing mentor, Liam Neeson. 

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While they're the two men 
minister to the Christian 

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villagers who worship in secret,
if caught by feudal Lords or 

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riddling samurai, they must 
renounce their faith or face a 

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prolonged and agonizing death. 
Interesting. 

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Might need to watch that. 
What if it's a true story? 

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I don't know, I've only seen. 
Historical fiction inspired by 

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real events and figures in the 
17th century Japan, but not a 

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legitimate just basically things
that happened. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
We might have to check that out.

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Yeah, so this movie was an 
insane set. 

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Let me just give you here's some
insane facts about the Passion 

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of the Christ. 
So no studio wanted to make this

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movie, including 20th Century 
Fox said no. 

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Columbia Pictures said no. 
Metro Goldwyn Mayer said no. 

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Paramount Pictures, no Universal
Studios, Disney. 

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Warner Brothers said no because 
I thought it was too 

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controversial, too bloody, too 
violent. 

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They don't want to. 
They don't want to promote 

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Jesus. 
They don't want to. 

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So Mel Gibson funded it himself.
He spent $30 million of his own 

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money to make this movie through
his own production company and 

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then $15 million on marketing. 
So he went out of pocket to make

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this movie. 
So he's 45 deep. 45 deep with 

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his money, including his 
company, which I mean I guess is

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his money. 
And he also can't get anybody to

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just put the movie out and get a
distributor. 

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That nobody wanted to distribute
except for one company that 

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distributed. 
There's another like kind of pro

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Christian movie, can't remember 
what it was, Dang. 

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I'd heard about it, but I also 
like essentially there was only 

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one distributor. 
Yeah, distributor. 

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And he is pretty small. 
Yeah, they only did like 2 

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movies before this. 
Yeah, I think they only 

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distributed 2 movies before they
did The Passion of the Christ. 

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Yeah, obviously the studios were
upset they didn't say yes 

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because it was the highest 
grossing R rated movie of all 

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time at the time it made it 
made. 

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I have it right here, $611 
million worldwide. 

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Of a of a $30 million. 
Budget In two days it made back 

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its budget. 
The first day it made $28 

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million and within two days the 
budget was saved. 

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Like they they made enough money
to cover their budget. 

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Insane. 
So when Mel Gibson asked Jim 

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Caviezo to pick to play Jesus, 
he tried to talk him out of it 

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at first because he said, 
listen, if you're going to play 

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Jesus, Holly was no longer going
to give you jobs. 

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You're going to struggle for a 
long time. 

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But he felt Jim Cabeza felt 
called to do it when he was a 

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child. 
He had some they didn't get in 

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the details of this, but he had 
something happened to him 

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traumatically. 
He ran away and like wanted to 

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kill himself, like he didn't 
want to live anymore. 

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And he prayed to God. 
He asked like, what is my 

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purpose? 
And he was I think he was in a 

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movie theater and he said he 
felt this presence of God come 

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over him and said, you, your 
purpose is to be an actor. 

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So he's like, OK, never done 
anything acting before, so it 

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became an actor and so it's. 
Also an interesting profession 

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for God to to say because like 
if you make it as an actor, 

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you're going to be exploited to 
a very sinful life. 

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Like if you do well, right, you 
know, tell you about, like, 

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yeah, yeah, like you're going to
have the devil right behind you 

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if you make it in this. 
And so he remembered this when 

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Mel Gibson asked him, and he 
said this must be why. 

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I was called to be an actor to 
play Jesus in this movie, and 

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when he's on the phone with Mel 
Gibson when they were talking 

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about it, did I have to do this 
movie? 

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I'm 33 years old, the same age 
as Jesus was, and my initials 

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are JC and Mel Gibson goes 
You're scaring me and hangs up 

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the phone. 
Sorry, I'm only hearing that Mel

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Gibson's voice. 
Yeah, watching Jimmica Beasel 

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recount that he like, imitates 
Mel Gibson and it's perfect. 

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Like literally exactly how Mel 
Gibson. 

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That's awesome. 
Also showing that he's a really 

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good actor too. 
Yes, true. 

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And so then Jim went on to have 
one of the most brutal roles in 

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movie history. 
He lost 45 lbs during the shoot.

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He started off at 2:10 and by 
the end of the shoot he weighed 

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168. 
Damn he he's kind of a unit. 

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Yeah, 210, Yeah. 
Whoa man, a little bit jacked. 

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Yeah, dude, I'm like watching 
him and I again, like I get 

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nervous. 
I just start like making jokes 

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in my head, but like I was just 
watching Jesus, like carry that 

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cross. 
And I was like, no, he couldn't 

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dude. 
Like dude, what? 

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That's skinny. 
That's skinny boy beating half 

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to death, way more than half to 
death. 

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And I was like, I don't even 
think he could live 225. 

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Yeah, he's like 80% to death 
after that beating, gouging 

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they. 
Can't. 

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They can't carry that cross. 
That's the God side coming out 

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of him. 
The man side couldn't do that. 

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Yeah, true. 
Anyways, Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
He's skinny boy in this film. 

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How tall is he? 
62, All right, Yeah, he's really

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skinny. 
Two yeah yeah 6. 

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Two Yeah, 160. 
Eight. 

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Yeah, that's OK. 210, I guess 
isn't you're fit at at six, 

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you're not Jack jacked, but 
you're just you're built. 

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You're built. 
You're looking, Yeah. 

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When Jim was giving the Sermon 
on the Mount, when they filmed 

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that scene, he was struck by 
lightning. 

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He was rushed to the hospital, 
right? 

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What are we talking about? 
What are we talking about? 

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He said when he was, you can 
hear him recount this. 

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It's better than I could do, but
he was. 

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The clouds are everywhere. 
He felt like he could touch the 

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clouds because they were so low.
And he said it felt like 

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mystical. 
And then? 

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How did the first AD not say 
this is not the best time to 

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start shooting I. 
Don't know another guy the the 

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cinematographer got struck by 
lighting too, holding an 

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umbrella. 
Multiple people are getting 

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struck by lightning. 
Yep, that doesn't happen by the 

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way. 
But he said he stood there and, 

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like, felt the suction of the 
air because that's what happens.

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There's a vacuum and he felt 
that suction. 

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The next thing you know, he's 
out. 

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Yeah, that's typically how it 
goes when you get struck by 

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lightning. 
He was unharmed in the fact 

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there was no lasting damage I 
don't believe. 

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But he was rushed to the 
hospital and while the while 

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he's on the table he died. 
The doctors brought him back and

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he said he could see everything 
that was happening to him but he

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didn't feel anything. 
And he said he felt the most 

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peace and love he's ever felt in
his life. 

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And he felt closer to God after 
that, which brought him more 

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spiritually inclined into this 
movie. 

449
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,080
He already was a believer 
already was called to do this. 

450
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:26,160
But he said him feeling that 
love and peace, which was the 

451
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,120
same kind of sensation that he 
felt when he was called in that 

452
00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:31,160
movie theater as a kid to be an 
actor, He said he felt just like

453
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,800
peace, security and love and was
called to be an actor. 

454
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,320
He said he felt the same thing 
when he died. 

455
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,120
It's like that's what he he 
almost saw what was coming to us

456
00:23:40,120 --> 00:23:43,160
after we die. 
And so that brought him closer 

457
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,680
to God. 
And he continued on with the 

458
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:50,400
with the shoot. 
So he died and came back to 

459
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,920
life. 
You know who else they've had? 

460
00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:57,360
The guy, he's playing like the 
guy. 

461
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,080
Wow, You know, it's one of those
things like I'm not going to 

462
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,640
doubt it. 
I'm just saying like I could 

463
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:09,880
understand why people would 
doubt the the truth in a lot of 

464
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,520
that but. 
Of of Caviezel. 

465
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,320
You're Jesus, not Jesus. 
Yeah. 

466
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,560
The, the actors. 
Yeah. 

467
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,720
Caviezel. 
Is that his last name? 

468
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:18,840
Caviezel. 
Caviezel. 

469
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,760
Like, I could understand why 
people you could doubt, like the

470
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,360
him dying at the hospital, even 
though I bet there's probably a 

471
00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:28,920
record of that. 
But one thing you can doubt is 

472
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,120
like him being struck by 
lightning on a mountain top in 

473
00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:36,160
front of a set, a movie set. 
That's a lot of witnesses. 

474
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,720
Like a lot of witnesses. 
Yeah. 

475
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,080
Did you say the the DP was shark
as well? 

476
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,040
Earlier in the set of earlier in
the shoot, I believe he he was 

477
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,600
holding an umbrella and it just 
kind of burned his. 

478
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:53,000
Hand yeah, but like, yeah, you 
can't just you can't just lie 

479
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,760
about that, right? 
There would be multiple people 

480
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,800
that would probably come out and
say Nah, no, what? 

481
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:05,480
But I mean, that's insane. 
Insane during the flogging scene

482
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,080
when Jesus is getting whipped, 
when how they filmed that is 

483
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,520
they had him on the chains with 
a little boulder that he's 

484
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,680
chained to and behind him was 
this shield that would protect 

485
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,000
his back, protect his back. 
And so the actors would hit the 

486
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,800
the shield like the little thing
behind the shield behind his 

487
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,320
back instead of hitting him. 
But twice the actors missed and 

488
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,520
swept his back, and he has a 14 
inch scar on his back from 

489
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,000
getting whipped because they're 
swinging hard. 

490
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,600
Can't take that either. 
Can't take that either. 

491
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,360
They're swinging hard so he 
literally got whipped in the 

492
00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:37,080
back during the shoot. 
Bro. 

493
00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:40,320
He dislocated his shoulder while
carrying the cross because. 

494
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,360
Is that shown on camera? 
That's when his arm gets pulled.

495
00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:45,640
I don't think that's. 
OK. 

496
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,400
I think that's. 
I think he just straightened his

497
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,120
arm, OK. 
Because but you knew what I was 

498
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:50,320
talking about. 
Yes, when they actually 

499
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,760
dislocate his arm to, yeah, nail
his hand to the cross. 

500
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,080
Yeah. 
So he dislocated his shoulder 

501
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,600
while carrying the cross because
Mel Gibson wanted to have some 

502
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,200
weight to the actual cross. 
That kind of out of the realism 

503
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,680
of how heavy the cross was. 
That sounds like something Mel 

504
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,560
Gibson would do, yeah. 
Yeah, just thinking back to the 

505
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,080
South Park. 
Oh gosh. 

506
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,760
Oh no. 
It took, it took weeks to film 

507
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,720
the crucifixion scene in 
freezing cold weather. 

508
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,400
It was cold, super cold weather 
when they filmed that when he's 

509
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,040
up on the cross and it took 
weeks for him to do that. 

510
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,800
He's shirtless and so we had to 
hang on the cross for hours 

511
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,000
while his hands were tied up and
he was sitting on a small little

512
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,400
bicycle seat to kind of hold him
up. 

513
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,280
He contracted pneumonia and 
hyperthermia and struggle to say

514
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,880
his lion because he was shaking 
so bad. 

515
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,160
And there's a scene where at the
very end he is, you can tell his

516
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,920
skin. 
It's you see it through the like

517
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,840
all the makeup of the blood and 
the gashes on his body, but his 

518
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,960
face and like a little bit of 
his arm, it's a bluish hue that 

519
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,800
wasn't makeup or any type of 
CGI. 

520
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,840
That was literally his skin was 
blue because he was actually 

521
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,280
going into asphyxiation. 
He's just a prey of oxygen being

522
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,160
up on the cross for so long 
because his arms are spread 

523
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,320
wide. 
Oh yeah, yeah, I. 

524
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:04,280
Can't breathe that well, but 
he's up there for hours in the 

525
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,880
freezing cold so he couldn't 
breathe very well and so he was 

526
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,720
literally turning blue. 
The things that you can get away

527
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,920
with on any film set anyways. 
Yeah right. 

528
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:14,680
Wow. 
After the movie he had two heart

529
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,320
surgeries due to the lightning 
and the prolonged hypothermia 

530
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,160
stress on his body. 2 heart 
surgeries because of this movie.

531
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,400
I I don't even know what to say.
I heard a little bit about this.

532
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,960
I definitely I heard about the 
lightning strike That was it. 

533
00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:36,720
So this is kind of madness. 
I almost don't believe you. 

534
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,320
It's. 
A lot. 

535
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,880
It's a lot to this movie. 
Don't believe? 

536
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,240
You and some cool things. 
Is that the guy that played Bear

537
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:48,200
Bear Bus? 
His name is Petro Sarubi. 

538
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,760
Whatever. 
Airbus Oh, the murderer. 

539
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,960
Yeah, the murderer. 
The one that there was like, 

540
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,920
give him to us. 
Yes he converted to Christianity

541
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,280
after this movie because he felt
so-called. 

542
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,560
He has AI believe. 
He was quoted saying on the 

543
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:07,400
scene during that when he was 
staring at Jim you know Jesus 

544
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,200
looks at Baribus with a very 
kind eyes. 

545
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,720
He said he felt like it was 
almost like looking at Jesus's 

546
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,280
eyes and like there was no 
hatred, just pure love in the 

547
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,560
look that kind of made him feel 
weird. 

548
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,160
And then after this, he turned 
to Christianity. 

549
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,760
The guy that played Judas, Luco 
Lionello, he was an atheist 

550
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,360
before shooting the movie and 
turn to Christianity after 

551
00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:31,760
shooting it. 
And there's a powerful piece of 

552
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,320
direction that Mel Gibson gave 
him. 

553
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,920
When Judas is kicked out of the 
city by the kids and he's 

554
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,280
tormented and he looked at the 
donkey that's rotting and he 

555
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,920
starts crying. 
Mel Gibson told him, When you 

556
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,440
look at that rotting donkey, I 
want you to think my soul was in

557
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,200
a worse condition than that is. 
And they filmed it, and the next

558
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,320
day he starts crying. 
And so that kind of stuff 

559
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,360
brought him. 
That's really good directing by 

560
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,960
Mel Gibson. 
Yeah, that's, that's really, 

561
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,280
really incredible. 
This is a side note, but I like 

562
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,480
the touch of, you know, Judas's 
lips keep getting worse because 

563
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,400
he just is like constantly 
rubbing the kiss off. 

564
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,640
He's like, I can't believe I did
that. 

565
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,400
He's like rubbing it on rocks 
and just trying to wipe Jesus, 

566
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,760
you know, the kiss he gave Jesus
off his face because he just 

567
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,720
feels so much regret what he 
did. 

568
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,320
And then like we said, the movie
grossed $611 million worldwide 

569
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,560
and became the highest grossing 
R rated movie of all time. 

570
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,240
I. 
Bet there were. 

571
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,320
I bet there were like a few 
people that left this set and 

572
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,840
probably had a lot to think 
about. 

573
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,600
I bet there were like multiple 
people that converted or at 

574
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,360
least started taking it more 
seriously or even at the very 

575
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,720
least probably stopped making so
many Jesus jokes. 

576
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,640
It was like, dude, like, you 
know, we, we work in the film 

577
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,120
industry and like the sets that 
I'm working on, it's not the 

578
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,400
worst thing in the world, but 
like there are a lot of people 

579
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,800
that just don't believe in it. 
And it's so, I mean, 

580
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,880
Christianity, I think everybody 
understands like that's the, 

581
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,160
that's like the religion that 
people make fun of, like all the

582
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,760
time, you know, and it's the one
that like you can kind of get 

583
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,600
away with. 
It's a yeah. 

584
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,120
It's more socially tolerable, 
yeah. 

585
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,600
So like just working on film 
sets, like it it definitely you 

586
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,200
hear it like a lot. 
I feel like that's because it's 

587
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,440
true. 
I know. 

588
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,640
It's allowed to get made fun of.
It's. 

589
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,800
Been really, like, not trying to
get too personal here, but it's 

590
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,560
definitely because, like, I was 
raised in like a very, very 

591
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,720
Christian household, but I 
always had just doubts. 

592
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,600
Like literally from the moment I
heard the story from what I can 

593
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,840
remember. 
We all do. 

594
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,120
Yeah. 
Like I was like a kid like, and 

595
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,800
I feel like when you're a kid, 
you just kind of believe 

596
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,560
anything, but I just remember 
like being a little kid and 

597
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,840
hearing it and no, not really 
buying that. 

598
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,120
But I also remember one of the 
big messages was that like when 

599
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,600
you go out into the world and 
enter it, you know, as an adult,

600
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,840
you're going to like, and this 
is like when I was a kid, it was

601
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,040
like, they're going to make fun 
of it and they're going to laugh

602
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,240
at you. 
And all those since I've dove 

603
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,840
into the industry again, it's, 
it's not like a terrible, 

604
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:16,360
horrible thing, but it is 
interesting to see like how much

605
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,880
it is mocked, like quite a 
decent amount from what I've 

606
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,000
seen. 
And the more that I hear people 

607
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:29,400
mock it, the more I'm like, wait
a minute, OK, Like something 

608
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,200
something's up here. 
And then you telling me kind of 

609
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,000
the back story of, of not the 
back story, but like all the 

610
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,040
behind the scenes of, I mean, 
crazy details. 

611
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,600
It's just one of those things 
where it's like, OK, maybe you 

612
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,280
don't believe in Christianity. 
Maybe you're an atheist. 

613
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,400
Maybe what? 
It doesn't matter. 

614
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,200
I just don't understand how you 
could hear things like this and 

615
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,960
then just be in full denial of 
something's up. 

616
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,640
Yeah, something's afoot. 
I think it, yes, something is 

617
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,200
afoot. 
Yeah, I think it's CS Lewis, a 

618
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:07,760
famous Christian writer. 
He said The story, the story of 

619
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,880
the Bible in Jesus, it's either 
not important at all. 

620
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,280
If it didn't happen, it's not 
true. 

621
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,200
It's not important at all if it 
did happen. 

622
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,000
It's extremely important. 
The one thing it can't be is 

623
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,200
like modern important. 
It's like it can't be, man. 

624
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,480
If it's true. 
It's it's the truth you have. 

625
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,640
To I've never heard of this. 
If it's not true, then it 

626
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,560
doesn't. 
Matter I love yeah, you can't be

627
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,800
man you. 
Can't be man on the story. 

628
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,040
Yeah. 
And, you know, just, I mean, the

629
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:38,440
story itself is crazy because I 
I don't know of like the major 

630
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,920
religions in the world, like is 
Jesus British? 

631
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:48,320
Is he, he's the only one that 
dies and comes back to life, I 

632
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,120
think of major religions. 
I don't know. 

633
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,360
He's a prophet in Islam. 
He's in he's, he's highly 

634
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,960
regarded in Islam. 
They don't believe he's God. 

635
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,680
They don't believe that God 
could be a human. 

636
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,240
But the argument to that is that
God can do whatever he wants. 

637
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,720
Yeah, right. 
So God can make a God can make 

638
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,800
100%, man 100%. 
Human, I think. 

639
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,240
Yeah, OK. 
Sorry 100% man 100. 

640
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:13,080
Percent God, I think that was, 
you know, again, like I've kind 

641
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,960
of fallen off the wagon of 
keeping up with the studies of 

642
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,080
of Christianity. 
I think it's one of those things

643
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,360
that definitely happens, like 
when you leave the nest of your 

644
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,840
hometown, you know, you go to 
college and there's just not for

645
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,520
me, like there wasn't much God 
in college. 

646
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,920
They were like, you had the 
ability. 

647
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,640
Sure. 
It's like kind of get into 

648
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,160
ANYWAYS and then you enter adult
world. 

649
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:39,680
Like I literally, you know, have
entered adult world and it's 

650
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,720
just kind of hard to think 
about. 

651
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,800
All right, I got to pay as many 
bills as I can, but also save 

652
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:50,360
enough to like live a nice life 
that I'd like to and then also 

653
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,880
make it to church on time. 
It's just hard. 

654
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,520
But I think a lot of people go 
through that. 

655
00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:01,040
But I don't know, just seeing 
stuff like this, it's crazy. 

656
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,840
But anyways, I say all that to 
say that like I've totally 

657
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:10,840
forgot that the Pharisees saw 
him as a prophet. 

658
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,840
It's mentioned. 
He was a He's a teacher. 

659
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,880
Yeah, they like they listen to 
him, they accepted him. 

660
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,400
I think they in the movie, like 
they're talking about he was a 

661
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,239
prophet. 
But then they get pissed that he

662
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,639
says I'm not a prophet, I am the
Messiah. 

663
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:30,159
They were going to be OK if he 
was just a prophet, just for, 

664
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,639
you know, prophesizing things. 
But he said I'm not a prophet. 

665
00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:36,440
I am the son of God. 
Yes, I am also God. 

666
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:38,040
Yeah, you know, I'm I'm the holy
truth. 

667
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,159
Everything. 
I totally forgot that. 

668
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,560
Totally forgot that. 
And but and the actor that plays

669
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,000
Pasta's pilot in this, I think 
he does a really good job of 

670
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,840
like the confliction because 
again, it's one of those things 

671
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,639
like whenever I remember the 
story, I always think pilot bad.

672
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,880
No, he's just like he's in the 
worst possible predicament. 

673
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,320
He's at the he's at the the whim
of the crowd. 

674
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,280
Yeah, he has to do it because 
the crowd's like calling him to 

675
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,520
do it. 
He's a very reasonable man, but.

676
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,280
He for a man, Yeah. 
Like in the Bible, he's like, 

677
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,600
this is not on me. 
His blood is not on my hands. 

678
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,760
It's on y'all's hands. 
And it's, you know, in the 

679
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,000
movie, he turns to his guy, says
do what they want right now. 

680
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,480
I didn't ask you to do this. 
Yeah, even though he kind of 

681
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,560
does. 
But, you know, he's he's he's 

682
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,120
like, why do you want me to kill
this man? 

683
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,720
He's done nothing wrong. 
Yeah. 

684
00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:32,600
What are y'all talking about? 
But they, you know. 

685
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,600
And then you and then you 
pointed out in the film, 

686
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,400
whenever they say like, oh, he 
said, don't don't pay the 

687
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,440
Romans, like right, Like don't 
pay taxes. 

688
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,200
That's a bold faced lie. 
Yeah, when he was getting 

689
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,880
questioned, they're trying to, 
they're trying to get Jesus 

690
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,560
into, they're trying to get him 
in a they're trying to set a 

691
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,160
trap for him, see what he would 
do. 

692
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,960
So they could try to trap him 
into saying something negative 

693
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,240
to them. 
They could turn turn him over to

694
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:59,640
the Romans like he said this. 
But when they asked him about 

695
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,040
taxes or do you pay the Romans, 
he said, can you give me a coin?

696
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,040
He's like, it's a Caesar coin. 
He's like, whose face is this? 

697
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,680
They said Caesar's. 
So give Caesar's give Caesar 

698
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,560
what's his and give God what's 
his. 

699
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:13,000
So I don't care. 
This world is not of. 

700
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,240
This is not. 
This world is not of the Lord. 

701
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:16,920
That's what I keep saying. 
The world is not of the Lord. 

702
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:22,440
Yeah, the world is not like God 
does not care about the sinful 

703
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,440
world. 
He does care about it. 

704
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,080
But you know what I'm saying? 
Like the things, the politics of

705
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,160
this world, God's not there to 
orchestrate that. 

706
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,520
He's here to save your soul. 
Yeah. 

707
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,440
He's about your spirit. 
So I'm glad you said that 

708
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,200
because so oh, so another thing 
you mentioned that this is like 

709
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,640
the highest. 
Grossing R rated movie yeah. 

710
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,000
And it's not even in English. 
Just yeah. 

711
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,360
Language. 
Like what? 

712
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:49,840
But one of the quotes that like,
just, you know, just really 

713
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,560
stuck out to me is whenever 
Jesus is meeting, Pasha's pilot 

714
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,400
really shows like how important 
this is. 

715
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,160
Like, because I think everybody 
knows they've been hearing about

716
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,920
Jesus. 
It has reached kind of the 

717
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:07,040
mainland, you know, it is 
everybody has heard the whispers

718
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,920
everything. 
And so pilot meeting him for the

719
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,840
first time and like having these
conversations and what Jesus 

720
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,680
says clearly important. 
And so he says and I wrote it 

721
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,760
down so I might have not 
actually gotten it accurate, but

722
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,800
he says my Kingdom is not of 
this world. 

723
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,240
If it were, do you think my 
followers would have let me be 

724
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:27,360
turned in something along those 
lines? 

725
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,640
I just what what exactly exactly
does he mean by that? 

726
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:40,000
Does he mean like, because Jesus
has been seen by his followers 

727
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:45,680
to perform miracles? 
And so I feel like when you see 

728
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,160
a miracle, you see Jesus, like 
heal a blind person or bring 

729
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,640
somebody back to life. 
Or heals Heals the ear of the 

730
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,880
guy that's trying to capture. 
Him. 

731
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,760
Is that in the Bible? 
Let me talk about Simon or 

732
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,400
Simon. 
Peter slashes a guy's ear 

733
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,560
protecting Jesus and he says 
stop, then heals the man's ear. 

734
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,040
OK, I just say you can't just 
throw that one in there now. 

735
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,760
Yeah. 
But it's just one of those 

736
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,000
things where he says my Kingdom 
is not of this world. 

737
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,640
If it were, would you think, do 
you think my people would have 

738
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,360
let me be captured, Something 
along those lines? 

739
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:22,560
But like, if you've witnessed 
this, you know that what he's 

740
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,840
talking about is real, even if 
it's not of this world. 

741
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,280
Yeah. 
So I just, I don't know. 

742
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,960
I was it. 
Was Kingdom's heaven, right? 

743
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,240
This kingdom's not the world 
yet. 

744
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,160
You know Jesus comes back and 
makes the world in heaven 1 

745
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,040
again. 
Yeah. 

746
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,720
And you know, in Revelations, 
right? 

747
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,360
So the kingdom's not of the 
world. 

748
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,160
He's not here to be a king on 
this earth. 

749
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,680
He's here to be a king in 
heaven. 

750
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:47,000
And he wants to save everybody 
on earth so they can come join 

751
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,120
him in heaven. 
OK. 

752
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,080
And his follower, like not 
everybody there is his follower 

753
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,120
because they don't know, they 
don't have faith in him. 

754
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,920
And so I think that's what he's,
that's what he's saying. 

755
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,160
OK. 
And then because. 

756
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,040
Because the guy's asking like, 
are you a king? 

757
00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:02,520
He's like, my king is not of 
this world. 

758
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,040
I am a king, but not of this 
world. 

759
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,200
Yeah. 
That's, you know, he's just he's

760
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,120
always kind of talking in 
metaphors are kind of vaguely 

761
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,520
about that because he's not 
trying to. 

762
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,640
He's not saying I'm a I'm a king
here to rule. 

763
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,920
Because his whole thing is like 
your definition of a king is 

764
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:21,680
literally how you live your 
life. 

765
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,640
Too, Because I believe back in 
this time there's one sect of 

766
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,240
the Jews that they're called 
zealots and they believe the 

767
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:30,680
Messiah would come back and 
start a war and be like their 

768
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,960
king that would like crush the 
Roman Empire, kill the Roman 

769
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,680
Empire and take over and and 
restore Israel. 

770
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,400
They thought he'd be more like a
war figure. 

771
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,120
OK. 
One of the disciples was a 

772
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,800
zealot who joined thinking that 
Jesus was supposed to be a 

773
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,200
warrior. 
OK, But Jesus, like, makes him 

774
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,040
get rid of his sword. 
And he's like, we're not, we're 

775
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,760
not fighting with swords. 
He's like, what? 

776
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,160
What do you mean you're the 
Messiah? 

777
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:53,920
He's like, that's not what we 
do. 

778
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,680
That's not what it is. 
You're wrong. 

779
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,080
It's with. 
Love, yeah, with love, yeah, The

780
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,440
story is just about how just 
the. 

781
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,040
The true scope of like, actual 
love. 

782
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,560
Like, what are you willing to do
for love? 

783
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,920
Yeah, Jesus takes it to the 
maximum. 

784
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,600
Yeah, that's why, again, this 
this film really caught me off 

785
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:18,960
guard because I thought it was 
going to be just like the most 

786
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,360
realistic humanized version of 
the crucifixion. 

787
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,360
Did not realize that there were.
I didn't know that Satan 

788
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,920
appeared in this film. 
Yeah. 

789
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,440
That's not in the Bible, but 
that's that's another creative 

790
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,960
liberty. 
No, no, yeah, I, I like it. 

791
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,240
Yeah, it's, I mean, you could 
part of it, it's kind of like 

792
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:41,600
maybe a symbol is when they're 
beating Jesus and the devil's 

793
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,080
walking behind. 
It's almost like Satan like 

794
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,040
entered them to punish Jesus as 
much as possible. 

795
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,160
You know, that kind of, that's 
kind of how I took it as the 

796
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,640
devil's there. 
He's like empowering them to put

797
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,240
as much damage as possible into 
him because they went, I mean, 

798
00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:58,440
in the movie they went overboard
like they're like, what do you? 

799
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,200
I said punish him, not scourge 
him to death, you know, So they 

800
00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:04,360
went overboard with the the 
scourging and the whipping. 

801
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,880
No. 
That's what like, you know, Mel 

802
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,640
Gibson with the creative 
liberties that he has, I think 

803
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,240
you can get away with it just 
given what he shows. 

804
00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:18,560
But like I, I, the, the shot of 
Satan walking by and he has the,

805
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,160
the baby in his arms. 
Like you can I, I was thinking 

806
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,040
about that. 
Like you could interpret it as 

807
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,040
like, I mean, you're supposed to
question it, I think. 

808
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:34,400
And I think the question, the 
questions for me was like, OK, 

809
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:40,520
are we saying that men are born 
evil or are we saying that men 

810
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:45,840
inevitably do an evil act at one
point? 

811
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,240
In which case you need Jesus 
Christ, you know, if you believe

812
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:54,200
in him to be your savior, Like 
that's what's going to separate 

813
00:41:54,200 --> 00:42:00,120
you from the Son of God is that 
like you, you inevitably will do

814
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:05,280
something in your life that was 
just not good and truly not 

815
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,640
good. 
It, it, it was the downfall of 

816
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,400
you or people that surrounded 
you. 

817
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,800
And the only way that you can 
really like, do right, make 

818
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,160
right with yourself is to like 
kind of accept the Lord. 

819
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,400
I feel like that was what Mel 
Gibson was saying with that 

820
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,040
particular scene, because the 
baby is amongst the crowd of 

821
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:28,280
men, you know, who have been, 
you know, children, you know, 

822
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,920
raised by fathers and mothers, 
you know, innocent, good 

823
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,080
children. 
And then now they have become 

824
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,840
men that are doing like the most
evil thing. 

825
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,040
It's also, you know, it's also 
like a simpler version just 

826
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,080
where it's like a freaky thing 
where you're like, whoa. 

827
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,200
What is that baby? 
That baby showed up. 

828
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:48,560
Wow. 
Yeah. 

829
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,960
So it's kind of, it just makes 
you uncomfortable, kind of 

830
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,360
showing you like something scary
to kind of make you feel the 

831
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,480
evil. 
Yeah, something that, yeah, 

832
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,280
exactly like. 
So even if you didn't have an 

833
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,160
interpretation of it, just the 
way that that looks in what's 

834
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:09,440
happening, you're like, this is 
like something is extremely dark

835
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,720
right now, you know, and like on
a spiritual level, like things 

836
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:17,280
are very, very wrong. 
So I did like that. 

837
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,160
I thought that was really 
creative. 

838
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:24,400
Another thing that really, 
really caught me off guard. 

839
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,400
I'm, I'll give the credit to Mel
Gibson or the DP, whoever. 

840
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:34,320
I think it's like it for me, it 
might be the most genius shot of

841
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,440
the whole film. 
And it is how he ends it with 

842
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:42,800
the rolling of the stone. 
And you just follow the shadow 

843
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:46,920
and you're seeing the darkness 
take over the light, or so you 

844
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,520
believe. 
And it just, and it's slow too, 

845
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,160
and it shows the whole cave and 
it looks like the darkness is 

846
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,600
taking over all of the light. 
Then it gets to Jesus's clothes,

847
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,080
which is where his body should 
be. 

848
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,240
And it's not the rock closing, 
it's it opening. 

849
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,560
You thought it was closing, and 
then it opens and then the light

850
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,040
just expands and that's how they
end the film. 

851
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:15,920
And I saw that and I thought, 
whoa, that was like the perfect 

852
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,680
way to wrap that film. 
That's the perfect ending to the

853
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,200
perfect ending. 
Like so I just thought that was 

854
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,600
genius. 
Yeah, because you watch a brutal

855
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,080
movie and then hope at the end. 
I think it's hilarious. 

856
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,840
Yeah. 
Now that we're getting. 

857
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,480
So, you know, Mel Gibson has 
talked about like, are they in 

858
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:34,960
production for the sequel right 
now? 

859
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,160
I don't know if they're shooting
it, but they have the script 

860
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,320
ready. 
Like they're ready to shoot. 

861
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,400
Yeah. 
Like, yeah, they might be. 

862
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,160
It's just funny because when I 
heard that hadn't seen the 

863
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,120
movie, hadn't seen the Passion 
of the Christ yet. 

864
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,920
So I was like, how are they 
going to do a sequel? 

865
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,520
What then I watch this in the 
way that they end it. 

866
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,760
I was like, oh, he left it with 
the. 

867
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:54,800
With the whole other half the 
story. 

868
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,160
He left the audience. 
That's not the help with the 

869
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,960
story, but you know, yeah, the 
ending. 

870
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,960
Yeah. 
He left it with, like, kind of a

871
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,080
cliffhanger. 
Yeah. 

872
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,280
I was like, what's he going to 
do next? 

873
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,800
Yeah. 
Like, even if you weren't a 

874
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,480
believer or maybe if somehow you
hadn't heard this story. 

875
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,640
Sure. 
And then, like, at the end of 

876
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,120
it, it's like, wait a minute, 
he's alive. 

877
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,920
Yeah. 
You know, So that's pretty that 

878
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,960
that was actually kind of funny.
One of my favorite details is 

879
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,960
when Jesus is about to die on 
the cross and he says, Father in

880
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,400
your hands I commend my spirit 
and then his. 

881
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,280
They made his peoples dilate, 
which is a sign of death because

882
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,240
your entire body relaxes. 
So, you know, adding in the 

883
00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:43,640
dilation and showing you that's 
when he died, you know, just 

884
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,920
after he says I commend my 
spirit to you than his people's 

885
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,400
dialect and he dies. 
That's just like a cool detail 

886
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,840
to like focus on and have that 
be a close up of his eyes. 

887
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:57,880
His his eyes. 
That actor has like the most 

888
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:02,440
insane eyes. 
Well he has blue eyes and they 

889
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,280
digitally altered them to be 
brown. 

890
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,520
That's why they look golden and 
you can tell sometimes when he 

891
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,640
moves like they don't track it 
very well. 

892
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,480
So like you can see like the the
little brown spot that they 

893
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,640
change the hue. 
It like shifts like a little bit

894
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,760
off his eyes sometimes. 
OK, Dang. 

895
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,520
You thought he just had some 
insane eyes. 

896
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,080
Those were like the most insane 
eyes I've ever seen. 

897
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,080
I was like, if he was really 
born with those. 

898
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,760
Oh, man. 
I mean, that's not like the 

899
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,040
worst thing in the world. 
Oh, something. 

900
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,040
And the whole time I was 
watching, I was like, dude, I I 

901
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,480
understand he's playing Jesus 
and maybe have a little bias 

902
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,160
here, but are those not like the
most gorgeous eyes ever? 

903
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,320
I was like, that's insane that 
like, they look like that and 

904
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,520
he's playing Jesus. 
Speaking of his eyes, one thing 

905
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,080
I forgot to mention about Jim 
Cabezo's Trouble on set was 

906
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,000
because for half of the movie he
has this prosthetic of his eye 

907
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,560
being swollen from being beat, 
so he only saw through one eye 

908
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,520
through the shoot, long shoot. 
And so he suffered from 

909
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,480
migraines because his depth 
perception was off. 

910
00:46:57,720 --> 00:46:59,880
Oh. 
So his eyes hurt like, you know,

911
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,520
his eyes were, his eye was 
straining. 

912
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,640
So he's having migraines the 
entire time he was filming this 

913
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,280
too? 
Just even more pain. 

914
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,960
Yeah, he suffered for it, but he
went through it to make the 

915
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,000
movie. 
Did I got I I got hit on the 

916
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:18,840
shin yesterday and it hurts so 
bad like so bad. 

917
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,640
It was one of those were like it
it hit. 

918
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,520
It was like cart. 
I was helping the VTR cart like 

919
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,280
move. 
It fell off a step and it hit me

920
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,160
right in the shin. 
And it was one of those where I 

921
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,280
was like, OK, like I already 
started like, but it hadn't hit.

922
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:33,440
And I was like, I know it's 
going to hit. 

923
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,480
Then it hit and I was like, 
wait, like, it's actually bad. 

924
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,800
Like that hurts so bad. 
So then we watched this film and

925
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,320
I was like feeling sorry for 
myself. 

926
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,520
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I was like, golly, that hurt. 

927
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,760
Like that really sucked. 
And you watch this and when they

928
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,600
nail through the shin, maybe he 
went. 

929
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,520
So I was like, all right, shut 
up, Gray, Mel got. 

930
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,800
Up So Mel Gibson said when Jesus
is getting out of the cross, 

931
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,040
those are his hands hitting the 
nail. 

932
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,600
Mel Gibson was one that did the 
hammer nail on the cross. 

933
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,280
Oh wow. 
Because he said, it's my sins 

934
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,000
that put Jesus up on this cross,
So I want to do it. 

935
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,560
It's like, you know, a metaphor 
of like his sins, all of our 

936
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,520
sins put Jesus on the cross. 
So like, he wanted to take the 

937
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,560
responsibility of like, actually
nailing him to the cross by, you

938
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,960
know, taking ownership of his 
sinful life. 

939
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,720
That's cool. 
I mean, again, like kind of good

940
00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:31,400
direction. 
I think even just for the 

941
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,400
filmmaking purposes, like I, I 
do believe that Mel Gibson 

942
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,520
believes in what he's saying in 
that moment. 

943
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,200
He's a hardcore Catholic. 
But also just in the sense of 

944
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,560
like, if you really want to pull
this off, everybody on that crew

945
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,280
has to be on board so to do 
that. 

946
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,400
And I don't know when they would
have done it. 

947
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:56,360
And I'm just saying like APA on 
a set, they like could be 

948
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,920
goofing off and that sort of 
thing. 

949
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:01,200
When you see the director do 
something like that, that like 

950
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,480
kind of just shifts the whole 
mood. 

951
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,360
So even though Mel Gibson like 
meant that in his heart, it was 

952
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,760
also just a very genius 
director's way of like, getting 

953
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,240
the whole crew to be like, this 
isn't a joke, right? 

954
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:18,480
This is what we're doing. 
This isn't some BS comedy film. 

955
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,960
This isn't a commercial that 
nobody's going to watch. 

956
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,600
We need to understand that 
nobody wants us to make this 

957
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,600
movie. 
They're at least the higher ups 

958
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,120
won't. 
But when we do and show the 

959
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,440
brutality of it, which we are 
going to, people are going to 

960
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,000
watch, people are going to 
criticize it. 

961
00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:41,080
They're going to look for, you 
know, the acting was corny, all 

962
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,840
that sort of thing. 
But if we do this, this is this 

963
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,720
is going to be a very important 
film. 

964
00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:50,320
Like you have to get serious. 
I just think like doing 

965
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,440
something like that, that's a 
really good way to set the tone 

966
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:59,200
and really like reiterate your 
point of this is not another, 

967
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,080
this is not any other movie that
you'll ever work on again. 

968
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,000
Right. 
He also had on set to kind of 

969
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,800
help that seriousness, their 
priests on set to help guide Mel

970
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,200
Gibson and telling the story 
correctly and just being there 

971
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,880
as a, you know, somebody to talk
to. 

972
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:21,680
But they also did the priest 
would do confessions with people

973
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,760
instead if they wanted it. 
I think they even did, like, 

974
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,080
church services for people on 
set. 

975
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,480
So the priests are, like, 
working with the crew if they 

976
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,560
wanted to connect with God, you 
know, through the priest because

977
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:32,880
he's a Catholic. 
So he brought in the Catholic 

978
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,280
priest to come and kind of be 
there is like the spiritual 

979
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,720
guide of the set. 
Yeah. 

980
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:38,640
Which is cool because I got news
for you buddy. 

981
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:45,360
Like he looks so real on camera.
He looks just as real if not 

982
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,680
more real in real life. 
Hair, makeup on this, they're 

983
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,120
good. 
They're really good at their 

984
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,760
job. 
Like when you see somebody go 

985
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,320
through that transformation as 
an actor and then they come out 

986
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,240
of the trailer and he puts on a 
performance like that while 

987
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:04,240
looking like that. 
That would get to you on set for

988
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:06,240
sure. 
While he's also in pain, been 

989
00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:09,400
suffering the entire time but 
still putting on 100% effort. 

990
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:10,960
People are getting struck by 
lightning. 

991
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,480
I'm sorry. 
But like, I bet that changed 

992
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,640
everybody on that crew like 
that. 

993
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,920
Everybody walked away and 
they're like, OK, something's 

994
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,800
definitely up. 
We have a lot to talk about, 

995
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,160
like you know. 
I think it took, it took Jim 

996
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,560
Caviezel 10 hours to put that 
makeup on, if everything. 

997
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,160
On his body. 
Gosh, I I bet. 

998
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,800
Yeah. 
So we get like 3 hours of sleep 

999
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,000
every night. 
So he was just sleep deprived as

1000
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,480
well during the set. 
But sometimes because it took so

1001
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,560
long and it was so rigorous to 
get this makeup on every single 

1002
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,320
day that he would just go to bed
with it on like he's didn't. 

1003
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:47,240
They just didn't ruin the 
makeup. 

1004
00:51:47,240 --> 00:51:49,000
He just would like lay in bed, 
probably still. 

1005
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,120
Dude, honestly, at that point, 
yeah, I respect. 

1006
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,840
It I mean you have to sit 10 
hours every day sitting in a 

1007
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,240
chair getting. 
Also, I mean, it's just going to

1008
00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:59,360
be good, like method acting too,
you know, You know, in a way. 

1009
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:05,040
Yeah, And then another cool shot
is the the shot of Jesus lying 

1010
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,280
in Mary's arms as she kind of 
stares at the camera, almost 

1011
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,760
like questioning the audience. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1012
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,480
Why'd you, why'd you, why'd you 
do this to my son? 

1013
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,000
Yeah. 
Sins of the World. 

1014
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:22,840
That's direct inspiration from 
Michelangelo's statue called La 

1015
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,800
Pieta, which is Mary holding 
Jesus dead. 

1016
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,720
Like, literally did the exact 
same thing. 

1017
00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:30,080
So like, he used that 
Michelangelo statues, like one 

1018
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:34,640
of the final shots of Jesus, you
know, dead there under his 

1019
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,600
cross, which is, that's a cool 
call to that statue. 

1020
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,520
Yeah. 
Now that is when this came out. 

1021
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:49,000
OK, so it did well financially, 
but did people enjoy this film? 

1022
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,160
Like for the most part, this 
also had to have pissed people 

1023
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,320
off. 
It was generally pretty well 

1024
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,120
praised, especially by, like, 
Catholics, and people felt like 

1025
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,240
it was a honest and true 
depiction of what happened. 

1026
00:53:01,240 --> 00:53:04,680
So it was pretty well received. 
I mean, it made $611 million. 

1027
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,840
Right, but. 
People watch it every Good 

1028
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,000
Friday, yeah. 
So I think it's generally pretty

1029
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,160
well received. 
Oh, did they drop it like around

1030
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,720
Easter? 
I feel like that would have been

1031
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,600
pretty smart, yeah. 
February 25th. 

1032
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,320
So. 
Close. 

1033
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:21,520
Well, not. 
Close. 

1034
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:29,320
Not, Not really well. 
Oh, Ash Wednesday, there we go. 

1035
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:30,800
There's really some Ash 
Wednesday that year. 

1036
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,680
Yeah, Controversial. 
Is that? 

1037
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,360
Yeah. 
Look, I don't think it's much of

1038
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,680
A secret that a lot of Jewish 
people are pretty high up in 

1039
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,920
Hollywood, so I bet they didn't 
like this. 

1040
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,040
That was the. 
Controversy. 

1041
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,880
I don't think they like seeing 
their people be the ones that 

1042
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,840
like, brutally killed you. 
That was a controversy. 

1043
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,400
They yeah, people were saying 
that it was anti-Semitic. 

1044
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:59,720
There's too many anti-Semitic 
themes in the movie because it's

1045
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,680
they were saying it's just 
blaming it all on the Jewish 

1046
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,360
people. 
I wouldn't say that. 

1047
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,080
I think it's definitely blaming 
it more on just humanity. 

1048
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,280
Yeah, it's, yeah. 
I mean, the story is not about 

1049
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,760
the Jewish people. 
Jesus was a Jew. 

1050
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,840
Yeah. 
Jews converted to Jesus after he

1051
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:20,120
came, he made the new covenant, 
but it was the Pharisees and the

1052
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:24,400
higher up religious leaders that
were at fault for doing this 

1053
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,160
because they didn't believe he 
was the because what Jesus was 

1054
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,200
doing in the whole time is that 
he was changing what they were 

1055
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:31,560
saying. 
Like they would preach things, 

1056
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,600
but he's like, you're wrong. 
Like you're doing this as a, as 

1057
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,320
a service to yourself and you're
just, you're parading what 

1058
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,840
you're, what you're speaking 
like that's not true because 

1059
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,680
they would, Jesus would do 
things like he would do a 

1060
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,360
miracle on the Sabbath. 
You're not supposed to do 

1061
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,600
anything on the Sabbath. 
That was like the old Jewish 

1062
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,160
law. 
But Jesus is like, so I can't do

1063
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,280
he was like you. 
If somebody's dying, you can't 

1064
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,440
save them because of the 
Sabbath. 

1065
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,440
That doesn't make any sense. 
Like you're not, you're not 

1066
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,120
realizing what the text is 
actually trying to say. 

1067
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,800
You're just living by strict 
code. 

1068
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,520
Oh, are you talking about like, 
quite literally, like if you're 

1069
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,920
some sort of, I don't really 
know how good doctors would have

1070
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,920
been in this time. 
Can't imagine they were 

1071
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:13,440
incredible. 
Right. 

1072
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,400
But you're saying, like, if I'm 
a doctor and I have the ability 

1073
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,200
to save somebody, I can't 
because it's a Sunday? 

1074
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,960
Right. 
So Jesus was like flipping the 

1075
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,080
things on their head and and 
changing and, and revealing the 

1076
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,400
truth to what the texts are 
trying to say. 

1077
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,800
So they didn't like it because 
they were undermining their he 

1078
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,080
was undermining their authority,
which they feel like they were 

1079
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:32,760
the top dogs. 
They're the leaders. 

1080
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,400
Yeah. 
So they hated him for that. 

1081
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:35,680
Also, it's work. 
Yeah. 

1082
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,600
And it's working. 
People are like actually 

1083
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,280
flocking to them. 
I do, yeah. 

1084
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,240
And I mean, they, they show a 
pretty good job. 

1085
00:55:41,240 --> 00:55:45,720
Like I think before the movie 
you're just kind of shown him 

1086
00:55:45,720 --> 00:55:49,680
with small intimate moments, but
they do show how big his 

1087
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,760
following is whenever he is on 
top of this mountain. 

1088
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,040
And he sang your entire life 
I've taught you or you've been 

1089
00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:00,400
taught to love your neighbor, 
hate your enemy or love your 

1090
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,040
friends, hate your enemy. 
But I tell you to love your 

1091
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,960
enemy as well. 
And that like, yeah, that goes 

1092
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,920
against. 
For sure. 

1093
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,640
Rome, right? 
He's like taking things. 

1094
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,040
To a new level, yeah. 
Rome is just on the whole 

1095
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,640
conquest of like, well, we want 
everybody to be Roman. 

1096
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,160
Yeah, because he used to be eye 
for an eye. 

1097
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,920
He's like, no, not eye for an 
eye. 

1098
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,480
They say do something bad to 
you, do something good to them. 

1099
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,360
Yeah, that's the reward. 
That's how you're a godly. 

1100
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,640
Person yeah, if you get slapped,
turn the other cheek. 

1101
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:29,560
What? 
Right. 

1102
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:36,600
Crazy. 
Yeah, dude, I powerful film and 

1103
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,000
I'm not, you know, not even as 
as a Christian. 

1104
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:44,840
I for sure. 
But even if you're not this very

1105
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:50,560
intense, this is a very, very 
well done film. 

1106
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,960
It is an interesting point in 
the opening when Jesus is 

1107
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,360
they're praying and worried and 
he's there's blood on his face 

1108
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,120
like he's sweating blood. 
That's in the Bible. 

1109
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,240
Jesus was so worried he was 
sweating blood, which is a rare 

1110
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:06,000
real phenomenon to where if 
you're under an extreme amount 

1111
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,280
of stress, the blood vessels in 
your face can pop and then you 

1112
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,520
start to sweat blood. 
This would call for that. 

1113
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,520
Yeah. 
So it's a legitimate thing, 

1114
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,680
which, you know, he's, that's 
why he's sweating blood at the 

1115
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:17,840
beginning, because he was 
literally. 

1116
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,880
So he's under so much stress of 
what he's about to do. 

1117
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,000
Yeah, that he's sweating blood. 
Not even foreshadowing. 

1118
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,520
Yeah, crazy. 
That's crazy. 

1119
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,320
I don't really know. 
How do we rate this film? 

1120
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,520
I don't think so. 
I don't think we rate this film.

1121
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,160
I'm glad we were In Sync on 
that. 

1122
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,040
Yeah, I was. 
Well, we're going to do 8.7. 

1123
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,680
Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of
the film editing, the 

1124
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,600
cinematography. 
It's just honestly, again, like 

1125
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,320
it is a really well done film, 
but I think putting out an 

1126
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,080
episode the day after Easter 
about the crucifixion of Jesus 

1127
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,880
and somehow either one of us, 
yeah, somehow either one of us 

1128
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,920
don't give it a 10 out of 10, 
right? 

1129
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,600
I don't want to offend anybody 
in that regard. 

1130
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,280
It's also, I just think it's I, 
I do think it's just too 

1131
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,440
important of a film. 
It's also it's not a movie 

1132
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,600
that's a standard storyline. 
It's not like a three act 

1133
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,880
structure and like the character
changed at the end and like, you

1134
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,240
know, there's a theme throughout
it that that overcomes the end. 

1135
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,240
That's not it's it's retelling 
what happened visually. 

1136
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,080
Yeah. 
So it's it's, you know, it's not

1137
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,600
not a standard movie that we 
would rate, right? 

1138
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,960
No powerful movie. 
It was, I know it was brutal, 

1139
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:36,160
but watching it's just different
and just visualizing, again, 

1140
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,440
like I was saying in the 
beginning, it's just seeing it 

1141
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,960
visually really changes the way 
you read the book. 

1142
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,480
Yeah, I'm sure. 
Because you, yeah, I mean, 

1143
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,200
you've definitely dove into your
journey, like a lot more yeah 

1144
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,320
than I have a lot of people. 
Working for a little bit, just, 

1145
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,000
you know, college, everything 
just distracted. 

1146
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,920
Oh yeah, and then. 
Getting married, having a child 

1147
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,360
turns you back to the. 
Lord, I don't do it. 

1148
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:02,400
I don't do it. 
Go back to the Lord. 

1149
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:08,960
But yeah man, happy Easter. 
Happy Easter, hope you had a 

1150
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:13,320
good Easter Sunday. 
Hope you guys enjoyed family 

1151
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,760
time if you had it. 
Hopefully you enjoyed this 

1152
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:20,400
episode and like obviously let 
us know kind of what else you 

1153
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,480
picked up on in this film. 
Again, since this is our first 

1154
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,040
time, I just we're so late to 
the party. 

1155
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,960
Like I, yes, I like, I 
definitely love to hear what 

1156
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,480
else we missed, what we 
misinterpreted, what we got 

1157
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,160
wrong. 
Yeah, I mean, they aren't aren't

1158
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,120
biblical scholars, so we may 
have not said thing correctly, 

1159
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:42,840
but yeah, we're learning. 
This would be one of those where

1160
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:46,520
I would enjoy coming back to it,
having a little bit more 

1161
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,480
knowledge and maybe even having 
somebody that like literally 

1162
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,080
knows everything about this that
lives for this. 

1163
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,960
So yeah, like maybe one day, but
because it. 

1164
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,240
Is cool because again doesn't 
give you much back story so like

1165
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,560
if you know a little bit of the 
back story there's little just 

1166
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,640
things that are dropped you're 
like oh I know what that's from 

1167
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,520
oh I know that that whole scene 
holds more weight because I know

1168
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,560
what it is like Peter when he 
slices the guy's ear off that 

1169
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:14,000
that character and then when he 
denies Jesus three times Jesus 

1170
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,600
his name was Simon and Jesus 
changed his name to Peter so 

1171
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:17,720
you're going to notice Peter 
because. 

1172
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,440
That translates, you know, the 
original Peter name translates 

1173
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,200
to like foundation like stone 
because he was the strongest 

1174
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:29,000
follower yet he denied him three
times and then seeing them all 

1175
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,840
run away, Jesus is captured, but
they're all scared and run. 

1176
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,720
They leave him alone. 
You know it's like those things 

1177
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,000
are just even though they're his
literally I've seen him do 

1178
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,080
miracles. 
In fact they have done miracles.

1179
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,400
Jesus gave them the power to do 
miracles, and as they went off 

1180
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:46,520
and spread the word before this,
it's like they know for a fact 

1181
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,400
what it is, yet they still leave
him. 

1182
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:49,840
Yeah. 
You know, it's like those things

1183
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,400
are just like, wow. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

1184
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:55,960
Oh, you know what? 
This'll this'll be my final 

1185
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:57,800
thought. 
I do like, no, Gibson does a 

1186
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,640
good job. 
There's like an actual, there's 

1187
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,320
a little bit of comedy relief in
this film for me at least. 

1188
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:06,960
Here we go. 
No, I just you wouldn't believe 

1189
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,640
it, but there it is. 
I mean, it shows how brutal 

1190
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:16,400
everything is happening, you 
know, But it it cuts to Jesus 

1191
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:17,880
building a table. 
He's a Carpenter. 

1192
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,720
Everybody knows that. 
And he does the high table. 

1193
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,560
And then, yeah, Mary says, like,
what are people supposed to 

1194
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,760
stand and eat? 
And he said no, but one day 

1195
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,960
people will have high chairs and
high tables. 

1196
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,640
Guys haven't built them yet. 
Yeah, just kind of funny, just 

1197
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,560
in the sense of like, yeah, like
he's God, he wouldn't know that.

1198
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:39,720
He would know that like high 
tables are coming. 

1199
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:40,560
Yeah. 
Yeah, right. 

1200
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,280
I just thought that was like 
funny, just like a little kind 

1201
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:47,320
of poke at this. 
The fact that he was, he's God, 

1202
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:48,960
so he's not even ahead of his 
time. 

1203
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,200
He just knows everything. 
He's all time. 

1204
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:55,280
Yeah, he's all time. 
Yeah, he's top 2, not 2. 

1205
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:57,800
Wait, what? 
Top 2, not 2. 

1206
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,840
He's number one, He's all time. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1207
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,440
But yeah, I just kind of, oh, 
'cause there's. 

1208
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:03,680
No, not to. 
Now I get it. 

1209
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,560
'Cause there's no way that's 
biblically accurate. 

1210
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,080
Is that in the Bible that Jesus 
call high? 

1211
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:13,520
No, no high top seating. 
No, but it's also nice seeing 

1212
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,040
like The Chosen does this and 
this movie did it a little bit 

1213
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,400
with him playing with his mom, 
like seeing him as a human, like

1214
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,400
fun loving. 
He was cool, Yeah. 

1215
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,400
He was a cool guy. 
People actually enjoyed him. 

1216
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:26,640
He was not like some weird dude 
going around being like, I'm the

1217
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:27,760
son of God. 
Yeah, I mean. 

1218
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,840
He was stirring on some things, 
but he was he's on the 

1219
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,680
embodiment of love, which means 
he had fun. 

1220
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,000
He played with people. 
Yeah, he was funny. 

1221
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,120
Yeah, and I thought they did a 
really good job just with kind 

1222
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,880
of that cutbacks and then just 
right back to the brutality. 

1223
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,600
Yeah, damn it. 
Yeah, enjoy it while you can. 

1224
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,360
Yeah, it's just those cutbacks 
that just make you feel the 

1225
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,000
weight of different things, like
when you're in the meat of a of 

1226
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:54,160
him getting tortured, flashback 
to his mom and then back the 

1227
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,400
torture. 
Like, oh, dude. 

1228
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,640
Yeah. 
But yeah, powerful movie. 

1229
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,280
If you haven't seen it, I 
definitely recommend seeing it 

1230
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,120
if you stuck around this long. 
And yeah, again, let us know any

1231
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,680
cool things you picked up to 
clear any your beliefs or 

1232
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,080
anything that you like about 
this movie. 

1233
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,920
We'd love to hear it. 
And as always, we'll see y'all 

1234
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,200
next week. 
We are out.