1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,360 And then I was just thinking about how many amazing players 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,880 we've had on and how lucky are we. 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,200 Did. We're extremely lucky We are 4 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:12,560 here with our third visit to Joe Bonamassa's home, second home of 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,840 his. We're going to Nerdville in 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,239 Nashville. Nerdville. 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,440 Nash. Does he call it Nerdville E? 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,520 What does he call it? Or does he say Gotham? 9 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:22,440 Hey, we'll go there too, I'm sure. 10 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,880 Oh yeah, yeah, the trifecta. The first one that I went to was 11 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,560 the one here in Nashville. Joe is like he's like our our 12 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,080 Tri Potter. The Tri Potter. 13 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,320 That's exactly right. Joe is becoming a regular here 14 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,360 on the show, and we can't be more thankful for spending some 15 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,760 time with him. So what I think we can also 16 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,880 recognize about the show is how good it sounds. 17 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,320 Oh my goodness. Listen, this show, First off, 18 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,800 every week, it's like Tyler is like a mad scientist just 19 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,000 tweaking. It's almost like us with our 20 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,760 tones, right? He's POD tone tweaking. 21 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:58,440 And yeah, it's dude. It sounds so. 22 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,440 Good. Most of the reason it sounds so 23 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,480 good is through meticulous and massive amounts of failure 24 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,880 figuring out what not to do. But we also have some really 25 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,160 great gear that we use to record the guitars in particular, Yes, 26 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,440 which are Roswell Pro Audio. Bam. 27 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,040 Like that Joe episode when we were at his house in California, 28 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,760 we miked up Gary Moore amps for the first time. 29 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,520 That they've been miked up probably since Gary played them. 30 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,240 Or with Roswell's. Yeah, the Roswell Pro Audio 31 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:30,080 microphones, the cab mics in particular, what we use, you can 32 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,840 see the colored mics all sprinkled around the NCC studio 33 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:34,760 here. Thank you to them. 34 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,960 They're sponsoring this video and we're going to bring a 35 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:40,760 couple mics over to Nerdville. Won't you come along OK? 36 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:48,520 Which 1646566? Yes, all a little bit different. 37 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,960 And then I got a small box 50s. OK, which are? 38 00:01:54,480 --> 00:02:00,000 Flexi and the UDL 34 is not 6L. Six I'll just try I'm. 39 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,120 Just going to try. Dude, just give it a try, dude. 40 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:06,800 Motherfucker. There is a difference. 41 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,919 This fucking guy I I made. Him. 42 00:02:09,759 --> 00:02:11,720 He is he is he goes. Just try. 43 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:12,960 Is he? Giving you a little taste. 44 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:14,560 He goes first. Taste is for us. 45 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,320 Yeah, exactly the difference between. 46 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:22,200 That's clean. The reissues and the the old 47 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,080 ones, the original ones. Put your head between your 48 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:24,920 knees, man. They're they're. 49 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:25,800 They're tired. You're. 50 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,080 Going to make a purchase dude. Dude. 51 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:39,280 I like it that sounds I I've played some Dumble Dumble 52 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:43,800 Tweedle DS and they're they were good but very dainty. 53 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:57,000 This one, it's not as much gain. 25 watts Greenbacks got a long 54 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:57,800 enough. Cable. 55 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,160 Bro yeah, I got just 40 feet. I'll turn the air conditioning 56 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:02,600 off. I was going to say we should 57 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,280 smoke a cigar, but it might be too windy. 58 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,240 There's a cigar. There's a cigar bar that's. 59 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,280 We might just need to. Run around the corner. 60 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:09,160 We might need to go there. Yeah. 61 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,520 Anyways, back. On yeah, yeah, I mean like the 62 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,040 the the the biggest, the biggest thing with with with all of this 63 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,760 is, is how I mean it's like is it does it work for you? 64 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,960 You know, and, and like a 57 Les Paul, you know, we're fortunate 65 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,320 enough to have been around it our whole lives and people have 66 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,960 been very generous with us as far as like, I'm here, try this, 67 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,360 play this for take this for a week or whatever you get to, you 68 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,280 know, use these as daily drivers. 69 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:38,240 And and then then formulated, you know, an educated opinion 70 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,120 and an informed opinion about what you prefer. 71 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,160 You know, skinny frets, small, you know, big, small frets, big 72 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,040 frets, you know, neck angles. You can you start seeing the 73 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,440 differences in the pitches. And you know, some people make 74 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,480 blanket statements about, well, I don't like 57 actually. 75 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,280 What 50 sevens have you played? Why? 76 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,200 I played a Murphy lab at, at Guitar Center. 77 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,120 I'm like, well, well, then you haven't played because not all 78 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,840 50 sevens are created equal. The the early ones are different 79 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,720 than the than the later ones. And then the, the 50 eights are 80 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,120 different, you know, and, and it's like, you know, if you're 81 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,960 talking about Les Paul, like a lot of 50 sevens, there's 82 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,240 chances are you can get an all mahogany 1. 83 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,720 There's so many different, you know, different things that you, 84 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:26,120 it's hard to make blanket statements, you know, even in, 85 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,800 even in terms of, of, of Fender guitars. 86 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,640 I mean, it's the same thing. It's like early 57, late 57. 87 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,880 It's like, you know, but if you're lucky enough to have 88 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,160 access to it or yeah, have played it. 89 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,480 So we've arrived at Nerdville E I've seen the signs now. 90 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,120 We were trying to remember what you called. 91 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,600 Next, call it East. Yeah, it's east. 92 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,720 Yeah, I should have named the New York 1 Nerdville East, but 93 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,040 but but this predated New York by four years. 94 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,800 And technically, we're east of Nerdville. 95 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,520 We're east of the original location. 96 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,240 This is Nerdville East, so we've Nerdville Gotham is the one in 97 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:00,720 new. York Nerdville Gotham is in New 98 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,280 York. We've checked two of three 99 00:05:02,280 --> 00:05:04,160 Nerdville locations off our list. 100 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,760 Jared for the No Cover Charge podcast and you actually went to 101 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,760 our little studio space, so. Joe's just waiting for me to 102 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,360 text him when we're in New York or he's there and be like, Joe, 103 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,320 can we come to the? Last stop is Gotham so. 104 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,400 Very few people have seen all three locations. 105 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,200 It's a very exclusive list, like a stamp card. 106 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,960 Like, like New York is very understated, you know, compared 107 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,040 to what we're, you know, what's what's happening here. 108 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,480 It's it's, you know, this is, you have to understand like, you 109 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:35,000 know, this place, like my home in LA is, it's 2500 square feet. 110 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:39,000 So it's a big bigger space, but it doesn't feel that big because 111 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,320 of all the signs and amps. And, but you have to remember 112 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,640 our logistical hub for touring is Nashville. 113 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,520 So all the stuff I find on the road ends up here at some point. 114 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,160 And then, you know, we have the processing plant that out, you 115 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,160 know, that we used to be down at soundtrack and now it's, you 116 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,720 know, and there's, and there's a storage locker full of extra 117 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,040 stuff. But you know. 118 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,000 Well, the premise we came up with today was to crack some 119 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,600 cases, see what's inside, dude, I think we had we can start with 120 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,640 this like it's already out of the case, but. 121 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,480 Is this the cleanest 59? This is the cleanest I've ever 122 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,480 seen. And I just got it and I bought 123 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:17,800 it from the son of the original owner. 124 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,680 I do think people hear with their eyes. 125 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,760 That's a huge thing. I think that that is the biggest 126 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,840 thing bro. They hear with their eyes and I 127 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:29,840 and I I. I do the exact same thing. 128 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:36,560 I have an original tube screamer TS8O8 and the reissues are just 129 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,880 as good but I hear with my fucking. 130 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,480 Wait a minute man, it doesn't have enough scuffs on it. 131 00:06:41,840 --> 00:06:44,160 And, and I got it. I like, I look down at the IT 132 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,160 gives me the warm and fuzz. It's like, you know, like the 133 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,440 difference. I mean, this guitar is a 59 now 134 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,640 the difference, but this is the serial number reads mid 59. 135 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:54,440 So that's right in the sweet spot. 136 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,560 And some of these would have double whites so that, you know, 137 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,320 as far as the, the, the, the, the cork sniffers like me, all 138 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,120 of mid 59. That's what you want. 139 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,040 And my blonde one's the same thing. 140 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,680 So it's like, it's like you get the thick top and you know, 141 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:10,800 it's, it's the, the neck and everything. 142 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,280 But you know, I also have an early 1960 that's identical to 143 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,840 this. Yeah, one says in 1961, says 144 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,400 1959. And and the price difference is 145 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,480 crazy because people they want the 59. 146 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:27,040 Have you ever been blindfolded and, you know, looked away and 147 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,560 done that kind of test with any of your guitars like that, where 148 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,280 they're so close? And do you think you could feel 149 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,920 a difference? I can definitely tell the 150 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,800 difference between a a late 60 Les Paul and A and a 59 and 58. 151 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,360 I mean the the the next, it feels way different blindfolded 152 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,680 can definitely tell that. But as far as you know, 153 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,400 sometimes even like a like the biggest neck that I have on a 154 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:56,000 Les Paul, a vintage Les Paul is my double O 1960, the Royal 155 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,440 Albert one. Yeah, it's the biggest, biggest 156 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,400 neck, even bigger than the 58, so. 157 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,400 I think also a lot of people now when we hear about like whether 158 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,400 it's Gibson custom or whatever and it's like, oh, I like a 57 159 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,240 profile. It's like I've played 57 Les 160 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,680 Pauls. Even some of your stuff where 161 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,360 you go, well, this oh, it is getting windy, dude. 162 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,360 And. Like my cushions may blow off 163 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,560 so. Amazing. 164 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,400 This is great, man. Yeah. 165 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,160 How long did this take? Five months. 166 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,320 It's supposed to take two weeks. Joe, you know, like whether you 167 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,720 like it or not, you're like the triple factor. 168 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,720 This podcast every time I bring hope you're OK. 169 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,840 With it, I'm happy to be an honorary member of the team. 170 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,919 You literally are. That you already have a pretty 171 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,840 solid platform I would say, but if you ever need to get the word 172 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,360 out about something, apparently this is the place to do it. 173 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,520 Hey, Joe, you did OK, man. You're all right. 174 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,640 I just, I say kids don't do what I do because I got because I got 175 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,600 to unwind this shit at some. Yeah, well, not today. 176 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,480 Oh, no, we're not getting into licensing issues. 177 00:08:55,440 --> 00:09:02,280 It it weren't one of the more famous 60 burst time, I'll let 178 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,800 you guys stop. Yeah, you know. 179 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,640 OK, that right there, dude. Oh, good. 180 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,760 Oh, that's good. I'll tell you the the the 181 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,520 shorter neck tendon on the 60 burst, the later 60 ones, it 182 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,320 does something. They they, they have a, they 183 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,720 have a thing. That that treble pickup as well. 184 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,000 I don't know if it's a little more bitey. 185 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,200 They bite. Got a little bite? 186 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,920 The front pickups are, the front pickups are, are they, they're 187 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,680 more hollow, kind of like Stratty 188 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,840 and then here we'll take that. Well, they they say that those 189 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,280 33 fives burst killers. Let's see here. 190 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:31,480 Hold on there, we. Go. 191 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,480 It's like you put on a clown, but dude, that's some 192 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,160 transparent. That's a great way to say it. 193 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,160 It's more transparent. Seriously, it sounds like you 194 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,880 just popped on a pedal and made everything about that better. 195 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,600 And there and there you have it. My best sound in Les Paul is 196 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,240 that I play on stage every single night. 197 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,160 Is my 3:35 nice? Dude, what's the neck pickup on 198 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:50,600 that thing? I. 199 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:52,760 Don't even. I don't know. 200 00:10:53,240 --> 00:11:11,240 I don't even know. I like the neck pickup on this 201 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,720 better, but we're splitting hairs, you know. 202 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:31,320 But but the lead is better. Bro. 203 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,240 That's the sound, that's the shit, that's the sound. 204 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:39,080 But you know, I mean the amp is a a a big factor, the Tweedle 205 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,440 Dee which. I think sounds incredible. 206 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:45,040 I, I will say that, that, and I told this to, to Matt and Drew 207 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,880 when I, when I got one because I got put on a list and they're 208 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,600 like, hey, there's only 10 of them so far. 209 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,800 You want me like, yeah, I'll take 1. 210 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:57,680 And I like what they're doing to preserve Alexander's name and 211 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,400 they're pretty reasonably priced about the about as much as a 212 00:12:02,680 --> 00:12:05,080 tweed Deluxe, right? You know, which is that's what 213 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,760 really what it is. But it's new. 214 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,720 Yeah. And I when I plugged that in and 215 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,160 I said, guys, that is the most impressive new amp I've heard 216 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,760 barn on in that thing rips. And I mean, we're talking about 217 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,880 two knobs. It's got 2 knobs, 2 knobs, 218 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,840 volume and tone turn up to 3 or 4. 219 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,320 And it sounds. Big, big. 220 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:43,000 So, but yeah, there's a, there's your burst market, there's your 221 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,600 burst market. Hey Ted, your your guitar sounds 222 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,000 pretty good bro. Nice one, Ted, I was. 223 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,320 Going to say we should smoke a cigar but it might be too windy. 224 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,320 There's a cigar. There's a cigar bar that's. 225 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:54,080 We might just need to. Go around the corner. 226 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,560 We might need to go there, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I mean, like the 227 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,440 the, the, the biggest, the biggest thing with with, with 228 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,520 all of this is, is how I mean, it's like, is it, does it work 229 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,040 for you? You know, and, and like a 57 Les 230 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,520 Paul, you know, we're fortunate enough to have been around it 231 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,680 our whole lives and people have been very generous with us as 232 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:16,880 far as like, I'm here, try this, play this for take this for a 233 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,680 week or whatever you get to, you know, use these as daily 234 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:22,040 drivers. And, and then then formulated, 235 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:27,080 you know, an educated opinion and an informed opinion about 236 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,640 what you prefer. You know, skinny frets, small, 237 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,000 you know, big, small frets, big frets, you know, neck angles. 238 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,280 You can you start seeing the differences in the pitches. 239 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,000 And you know, some people make blanket statements about, well, 240 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,800 I don't like 57 actually. Well, what 57's have you played? 241 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:45,200 Well, I played a Murphy lab at, at Guitar Center. 242 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,160 I'm like, well, well, then you haven't played because not all 243 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,360 57's are created equal. The, the early ones are 244 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,280 different than the, than the later ones. 245 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,280 And then the, the 50 eights are different, you know, and, and 246 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,360 it's like, you know, if you're talking about Les ball, like a 247 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,440 lot of 50 sevens, there's chances are you can get an all 248 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,000 mahogany one. There's so many different, you 249 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,040 know, different things that you, it's hard to make blanket 250 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:14,480 statements, you know, even in, even in terms of, of, of Fender 251 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:15,720 guitars. I mean, it's the same thing. 252 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,680 It's like early 57, late 57. It's like, you know, but if 253 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,040 you're lucky enough to have access to it or have played it, 254 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:27,840 yeah, this is a 59 what they call.net 335. 255 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,800 And I got this recently, literally 2 days ago in Durham, 256 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:36,480 NC and you know, like really like how do you find it? 257 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,960 It's like, well, they find me. They just this is an e-mail 258 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,480 through the the website going, hey, you know, it was a store 259 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:49,560 called Sound Pure in Durham, NC and they can sign this in from 260 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,240 Charles Miller, which is Ted's, Ted's son. 261 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,520 And you know, it's they knew, you know, they saw I was coming 262 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,960 to the D pack. Here comes, here comes Shamu the 263 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:01,640 guitar. We're going to want to see this, 264 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,240 Mr. Shamu. Here comes the circus. 265 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:04,960 Here comes the here comes the checkbook. 266 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,880 Yeah. And, and I went and looked at it 267 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:09,440 and I was like, yeah, I made them an offer. 268 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:10,680 And they were, they were cool with that. 269 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,520 And it's, you know, I'm I'm kind of vacillating. 270 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,160 I'm like like my collecting is slowed down significantly. 271 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,960 AI just that, you know, saturation point. 272 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:24,480 So, I mean, a guitar like this is, is kind of, it's 273 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,560 conflicting, you know? Yeah, dude, you know, five years 274 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,800 ago I'd be like, oh man, let's just throw it in the pile of 275 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,480 other, you know, most of my stuff is meant like this stuff. 276 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,040 But I'm like, it's a lot of money to spend on a, on a guitar 277 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,600 that, you know, probably will never see the road. 278 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,080 It's just, it's just too preserved, you know? 279 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,960 My ego isn't, you know, big enough to where I'm going to 280 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,680 like, I'm just going to beat it up, you know? 281 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,800 Well, like I was saying to you, it's so clean. 282 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,760 It's so clean that do you really want to do that? 283 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,760 Yeah, I mean, this nickel is like untouched. 284 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:58,800 So I. Can see your fingerprint on. 285 00:15:58,800 --> 00:15:59,560 It. Yeah, exactly. 286 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,120 It's crazy. And so there's that and there's 287 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,120 this one is this one's pretty cool and it's preserved. 288 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,920 And then I just got this one this this one came out of 289 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,160 Portland. And I have a little collection, 290 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,520 probably half a dozen of these things with names in the 291 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,080 fingerboards. And this would have been a 292 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:25,320 custom order. And Carl Rolla, and he just 293 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,520 recently passed away. And there's a picture of him 294 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:32,040 with this like a cowboy hat and a gun. 295 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,760 He's got like, like a whole, he had a whole like he was, he was 296 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:39,920 a Roy Rogers thing. But I mean, this is a 1966. 297 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,000 It looks like it was made yesterday. 298 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,200 And and, you know, I mean, it's to me, these are not for 299 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:51,600 everyone because it's it's folk art, you know, but it also is, 300 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,880 you know, you know, Gibson like today will make would have made 301 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,520 you would would make you anything if you just waited, you 302 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,520 know, like, you know, it's like, Hey, I want to put my name in 303 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,440 the Fingerboard. Carl Rola. 304 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,400 And they did. And he waited, and he got it. 305 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,800 Do you get disoriented when you play fret boards with, you know, 306 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:15,440 non traditional fret markers? Yeah, it's a little weird at 307 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,440 first. Messes me up a little bit. 308 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,280 It's a little weird. They look cool in photographs. 309 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,720 I have AI have AJ 200, Yeah, that has a guy's name in it. 310 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:30,000 And and I also have a Birdland that has the same thing, 59 311 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,400 Birdland, but you know, on the on the signature models. 312 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:37,120 Yeah, they said they, they purposely put the E in Joe in 313 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:39,480 the 12th fret and the A in Bonamassa on the 5th fret. 314 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,600 I'm just, I doubt that. What I don't think? 315 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,560 That's, that's what Gembar said. I was so pissed. 316 00:17:46,360 --> 00:17:48,720 I was so pissed that this thing never found a forever home. 317 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,600 And I was like, how clean this thing is? 318 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,160 It's like clean and straight. Nobody wanted to keep it. 319 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:57,400 Why? I don't know. 320 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,640 I mean, it's just, it's fucking awesome. 321 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:01,400 I love it's got a great weight dude. 322 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,160 Good weight. When did you get this guitar 323 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:10,240 originally? I bought that 2011. 324 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,000 You got to give it the smell. I'm sorry. 325 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,000 It's like it's like I'm a grandma, you know? 326 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,040 And they like have to like pinch the kids cheek. 327 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,520 I'm like I started to smell it and I can't help my impulse. 328 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,880 Yeah, I bought that originally from Gary Dick at Gary's Classic 329 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,840 Guitars in Cincinnati. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 330 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,360 And it came from Cincinnati. The guitar was originally from 331 00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:31,200 Cincinnati and that's why I named it Johnny Fear. 332 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,960 Gorgeous. That was back when this this 333 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,880 stuff was fun. What do you mean by that? 334 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,400 The prices back when this stuff was fun. 335 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:44,280 A guitar like this now is probably north of $350,000. 336 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,680 Wow. Back when this was fun, more 337 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,880 fun. This was about 120. 338 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,880 OK, which is still a lot of money. 339 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,200 I remember when these were 15,000. 340 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:03,000 Now they're 75 or 80. It's, you know, I mean, yeah, 341 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,720 that means there's a demand, there's a good demand. 342 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:10,600 So the prices go up. But but yeah, I mean, like a lot 343 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,120 of my collection, if you see like yellow tags, I bought those 344 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:16,520 back back in the day when the stuff was fun. 345 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,120 So it's like, you know, I tell people it's like, oh, I paid X 346 00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:23,280 amount of dollars for that. And they're like, how did you 347 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,000 get all the good deals? I'm like, I go, this is this 348 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:32,000 goes back to 2008 nine. Yeah, the financial crash of O8, 349 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:37,040 these things were super expensive in like O six O 7 and 350 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,720 then AI mean it was a free fall, you know, and they're almost as 351 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,560 expensive as they are now. And then and then everybody just 352 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,760 collected went OK, we're done. And they dumped out of this 353 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,000 asset class that they thought they were accumulating. 354 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,400 And then it then it became not fun for the people who spent way 355 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,800 too much money on them, but but fun for, you know, people like 356 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,240 me that were just getting into it. 357 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,760 And I still have issues. I still have issues with with 358 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,920 values because people ask me all the time, like, what do you, 359 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,200 what do you, how much is that worth on like? 360 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,080 And I and I always default to, you know? 361 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,720 My barometer of 10 years ago, you know, if you can get the, 362 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,840 the, the kind of, the kind of numbers that, that people are 363 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,320 talking about, mazel tov. Good for you. 364 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,400 I was lucky, you know, because a lot of my burst acquisition 365 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,000 happened back in the day. Now, I, I, I sold this guitar 366 00:20:25,120 --> 00:20:28,280 probably in 2017 and then, and then it kept coming back and 367 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,640 back and back and I got pissed off and I bought it, bought it 368 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,320 back last year for more than I originally paid for it. 369 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,800 But with the trade, I got back into it for actually less than 370 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,960 what I paid for it in 2000. Well, is that it was actually a 371 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,280 sweet story you're telling. You were kind of describing this 372 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,800 guitar like a lost kid or lost animal like that you needed to 373 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,760 help. Yeah, and it's like, it's like, 374 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:53,040 you know, I mean, it's like OO7 it's O 7589 That's, that's, 375 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,120 that's the serial number. And it's like, you know, I 376 00:20:56,120 --> 00:20:59,000 thought when I got rid of it, it found its forever home. 377 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,320 And then it turned out its forever home was with me and, 378 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,920 and that's it. And it's like, this is the one, 379 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,520 you know, I, you know, right now we're in the middle of a tour. 380 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,000 We just played last night in God knows where. 381 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,480 Greenville, SC. And Joe's running on like no 382 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:15,280 sleep. And he came to hang. 383 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,760 Out, yeah, exactly. Each year the both touring rigs 384 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,800 are out. So all the Les Paul's are, you 385 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,920 know, the Nashville ones that are here, they're they're all 386 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,440 committed. So this but this is the one I 387 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:26,480 keep at home. Yeah. 388 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,800 Case of emergency case. There's there's no guitar 389 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,160 players left in Nashville and the widdly widdlys are are 390 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:38,360 required at on some session and I happen to be here and when 391 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,280 every other guitar player in Nashville has suddenly 392 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,160 disappeared. And it's just Joe. 393 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,760 We need the widleys. In the Johnny fever, he's like I 394 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,920 have risen the. Bat and I get a call from the 395 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,120 mayor and going listen, the city we're we're we're really in a 396 00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:53,800 desperate hour. We don't know if if the city 397 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,960 will survive. We really need 16 bars of Willy 398 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,680 Willy. We need 16 bars of disgusting. 399 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,680 Willy Willy country fried Miranda Lambert saw you know 400 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:03,760 what I. Mean you're our only. 401 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:04,800 Help. I'm there. 402 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:07,880 Brad Paisley, They're all gone. It's only you. 403 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:08,880 Yeah. What about Brent? 404 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,720 No, Gone. I'm gone. 405 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:13,680 You're our. Only help. 406 00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:18,440 It's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's either me or Armageddon and 407 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,800 I'll bring Johnny Fever and and, and God save us. 408 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:26,920 All didn't Clapton like wasn't like the Blues Breaker 60 a 60. 409 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,320 Well, the rumor, I mean, nobody really knows where it is or 410 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,160 there's that rumor that I knew where it was. 411 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:36,080 I've never seen it right. Like the one the classic Blues 412 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,280 breaker Les Paul to to my eyes looks, but they're all blurry 413 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,800 pictures. You know, I mean that looks that 414 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:49,560 fade looks 59 ish. Definitely the cream guitar is a 415 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,360 60, right? And that was the one he got from 416 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:56,800 Andy Sommers, which that was one of these because you could see 417 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,520 if you could see pictures of it, it had the pickup covers of pop 418 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,120 and had to reflect their knobs and it still look very cherry. 419 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,320 You know, this is this is what they call a a tomato soup or or 420 00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:14,800 in some circles, a clown burst. I don't like the clown burst 421 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,200 thing. I don't. 422 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,680 I don't get it. It's, you know, like we pay a 423 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,240 lot of money for sunburst Les Pauls. 424 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,480 You want a sunburst Les Paul? That's a that's. 425 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,920 Striking. Because what you know, what what 426 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,640 was happening is the aniline dyes that they were using in 427 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,040 5859, if they're sticking in the window, the music store, it 428 00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:36,320 would fade and it would, and it would just look natural and you 429 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,840 know, the stage lights would fade them and stuff like that. 430 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,560 So by the end of 60, they, they changed the die so they didn't 431 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,800 fade like you can, you can stick this thing out in the sun and 432 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,280 around the back will fade right? But but but the top. 433 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,960 One dude, do you really think I just asking for my own personal 434 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,880 knowledge? Do you think popping covers off 435 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,080 is really something that's worth exploring ever? 436 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,200 You know, I, there's a, you get a little bit more output, a 437 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,920 little bit. It's an aesthetic thing. 438 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,480 You know, people you don't have to get double double whites or 439 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,880 zebras. You know my my thing is is if 440 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,320 covers are popped I usually leave them but I'm not going to 441 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,000 pop these. No. 442 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,400 You know what I mean? It's even if you know, even if 443 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,760 it's like these are double blacks. 444 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:25,480 Did you just say you were already you already saw it? 445 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,640 Yeah, you could. You could if you just look 446 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,240 around the screw here. You can see a little. 447 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,520 You can see the colour of the bottom. 448 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,960 So if you see white, it's double whites, you know, or zebra. 449 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,400 It's like you're some 330 fives. You know, in this in this era 450 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,920 right here have double whites, but you're not going to pop the 451 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,240 covers on a mint guitar. It just. 452 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,640 Doesn't, no. Why, you know, Gary Moore pop 453 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,200 covers. He he you know, I think Greenie 454 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,640 was the only guitar he didn't, you know, because it's 335. 455 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,280 He had a 64335 popped, you know, The strike was popped, you know, 456 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,000 but it just depends. The first time I ever saw that 457 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,480 was Jimmy Page, like Royal Albert Hall, early Led Zeppelin, 458 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,600 when that DVD came out, how the West was won and he had a popped 459 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,960 bridge pickup on his. I guess it was the number one. 460 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,080 And I remember I was like, what the fuck is it? 461 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,480 It looks cool, but you know it's yet again. 462 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,640 Sometimes if you, if you pop them, they start, they start 463 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,760 feeding back and squealing. I've had that happen. 464 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,480 And then if you put cover on, it's like, I don't know why. 465 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,440 Dude, have you ever had to actually like, put a little wax 466 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,960 on any of these pickups? I've never had a wax upon 467 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,080 anything that's good. Some of them squeal. 468 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,440 Yeah, Martino squeals. It's super high gain or super 469 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,120 high volume. I've I've seen them where the 470 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:42,560 guitar, you know, like the normally this reads less than 471 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,960 that, but that was kind of random. 472 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,920 They weren't measuring, you know. 473 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:53,080 But I've also seen a 10 point something in the front on a 59 474 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,600 and an 8.2 in the back. It just depends. 475 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,800 So do you have a ongoing mental catalog of what's at each 476 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,720 Nerdville location? I do, you do. 477 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,400 Yeah, I, I kind of do. We had an incident a couple of 478 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,440 months ago. We just those we're still 479 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,720 waiting on deck furniture. That's why my deck is a vacant. 480 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,640 Looks amazing though. Well, yeah, it came out great. 481 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,040 Brand new deck. The first attempt at the deck 482 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,560 furniture was an epic bail because I ordered all this. 483 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,120 Table up here. This stuff, big umbrella and 484 00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:27,000 they go to deliver it and they're like, we can't get it up 485 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,280 the stairs, we'd have to crane it over. 486 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,000 You actually said that when we were walking. 487 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,360 I said, how did you? Get all this stuff up here. 488 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,880 Dude, imagine having a crane in You're here forever. 489 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,200 Now like unless you get a crane. Well, I mean the elevator. 490 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,680 I have an elevator. Oh, you have an elevator? 491 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,040 Oh, that's great. Yeah, but most of it came up. 492 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,680 That'll help. What was the mishap? 493 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,600 Yeah, the, well, the mishap, it's not a mishap, it's a 494 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,320 Cadillac. Problem was this is when you 495 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,800 know you need to stop acquiring things. 496 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:57,240 I the the deck project was like all of the everything, all the 497 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,160 furniture was pushed all the way to one side. 498 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,080 There was, there was for three months, there was tarps over 499 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,600 everything. And I came back here and I put 500 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,320 everything kind of back and redid some displays and went in 501 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,720 the, the guitar closet and in the other room. 502 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:21,560 And I pulled out not one, not 2, not 3, but four strats from 1955 503 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,640 to 1958. Cool. 504 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:32,080 That didn't realize I had owned and I was like, yeah, there's 505 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,920 that's a problem. That's it's not that didn't make 506 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,320 you feel great. That didn't. 507 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,440 Well, it made me feel great because I I just acquired 4. 508 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,560 Yeah. Yeah, actually you won four 509 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,320 strats from yourself. To be honest with you, it's 510 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,640 like, you're like when you have no recollection where this stuff 511 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,840 comes from. That's, that's the time you got 512 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:49,800 to stop. It's it's just. 513 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,400 Enough. But you bought them all. 514 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:52,720 I did. So you just. 515 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,240 Yeah, because I'll sometimes find gear if it's sent to me, 516 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,240 for example, for demonstration purposes. 517 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,320 But you going to buy the stuff and then forgetting that you 518 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,280 have it is another level of. Some of these things go back 20, 519 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,840 you know, is, is is is, you know, two days to 20 years. 520 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,160 But also, dude, let's not forget that in the midst of all this 521 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,760 cool stuff and these different locations with stuff, you are 522 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,000 working. I work. 523 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,200 You're on tour. It's cool to come back to, but 524 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,880 it's it's it's like your mindset, it's like it's not 525 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,760 you're just sitting around going Oh yeah, there's that and 526 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,560 there's that. It's like you're coming in at 527 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,720 all times of the year, potentially only at a certain 528 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,160 week here, a week there. It's not like you can literally 529 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,920 sit there and go Oh yeah, I got, you know what I mean? 530 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,680 Depending on when you're. Watching this video, Joe is 531 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,280 probably on tour right now. We go on tour, I mean, when 532 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:45,080 there was stuff to buy and and and it was fun and I would come 533 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,280 back with crates full of stuff. Dude, what was your favorite 534 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,880 buy? What was your favorite thing 535 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,440 that you found where you just your eyes lit up and you just 536 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:59,840 went holy shit. Well, the the my favorite 537 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,400 purchase was the one that meant the most to me and the guitar is 538 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,320 not here. He was at the Ryman is is the 539 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,760 the Howard Reed Strat. That was the one that meant the 540 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,960 most because I was, I dreamed I had the guitar on my wall. 541 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,480 And when I was in like like 10 years old, like some people had 542 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,160 Farrah Fawcett, I had I had the Howard Reeds draft. 543 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,720 That explains everything. And, and then I got an 544 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,920 opportunity to buy it from Bill Blackburn through Grunes in 545 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,800 2011. And coincidentally, I picked it 546 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,520 up this day at the day that I, I played the Ryman for the first 547 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,400 time. So, and then I, you know, the 548 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,440 guitars in the case and I can't even believe I'm in the same 549 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,800 room with this thing. And there was some fans upstairs 550 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,760 at the green Grunes. And I was like, just give me a 551 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,840 second, you know, And I picked it, picked up the Strat, and I 552 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,840 figured I said, you have a reasonable expectation of what 553 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,320 the Strat weighs 10 lbs what, heavier than this? 554 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,600 Holy cow. Hold up though, did you play it 555 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:54,680 that night? Yeah, I did. 556 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,640 OK. That story is like legendary. 557 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:02,240 Yeah, I mean, I played it that night and then it's the first 558 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,640 black Strat ever made. And and it was at the IT was at 559 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,640 the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for 17 years. 560 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,880 I loaned it to the Ryman for their, their, their Rotunda. 561 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,000 And every time we play the Ryman, I get it out and I and I 562 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,480 and I put a little sign on the on the on the stand. 563 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:23,160 I owe you 155 blackstrat. And then that was so that that 564 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,400 really meant the way I mean, like, you know, I mean, I've, 565 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,640 I've pulled some crazy stuff out of out of that, you know, you 566 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,560 know, the, the, the Marshall stack. 567 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,800 I remember that story. The Marshall, well, the, the one 568 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,720 in the, in the, as you come into this place, I, I remember 569 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,040 getting in Springfield, Mass, you know, and it was like a 570 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,840 winter's day. And then here we have it stacked 571 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,400 outside the Symphony hall. It still happens. 572 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,800 It just doesn't happen as much. And it doesn't have to because 573 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,360 it's like, why would I want? Yeah, you're good. 574 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,360 I'm good, you know. But also, dude, I can say this 575 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,680 personally how gracious you are with all of this gear. 576 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,120 There's been many times more than I can count of you going, 577 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,080 Oh yeah, just take it, Take it and try it. 578 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:01,840 See what it's all about. Like you were saying, getting 579 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,200 them into hands. And I remember, you know, I was 580 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,440 here once and he had that 64 ES 335. 581 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,480 And I was like, man, this is cool. 582 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:10,800 And you're like, take it for a while. 583 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,360 Yeah, just take it. It's like it's one thing to have 584 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,760 all this stuff, but it's also another thing to share it as 585 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,920 well as let it be used as intended and take it on tour. 586 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,000 Not not that I keep looking at that thing. 587 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,480 It just looks like a brand new guitar. 588 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,520 Yeah, it's, yeah, you know, I mean, but you know, you can use 589 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,080 these in the studio and not, you know, I mean, they should be 590 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,800 used, you know, and you know, one of the things about that 591 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,600 I've I've always found with with guitar collecting versus playing 592 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,160 is sometimes the mint stuff isn't the best playing. 593 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,360 Can I grab that guitar over there? 594 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,160 Can you talk about the what the lefty is? 595 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,840 Yeah, go. Dude, come on. 596 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,440 He wore it out, bro. He wore this guitar. 597 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,080 It looks like it was in a fire drag through mud. 598 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,840 I mean, I've never seen look at the knobs on the pickguard like. 599 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,520 Oh yeah, it's it's one of the worst worn out things I've ever 600 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,920 seen. That thing mess me up. 601 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,920 And by and by the way, this there's for the for the for your 602 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,240 video, there's there's tons there's I'll, I'll send you a 603 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,600 link of, of Lefty playing this with The Rolling Stones. 604 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,880 No way. So was that his only guitar, you 605 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,880 think? Yeah, I mean, I have pictures of 606 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:32,200 Lefty playing this guitar when it was meant, and it's charcoal 607 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,400 frost. That's the color, yeah. 608 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,600 And you're now, if you're saying yourself, Joe, what's up with 609 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,000 the horn? Somebody cut the horn. 610 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,080 Somebody cut the horn. Well, why is there paint in the 611 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,320 horn? And Lefty had played this guitar 612 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:52,800 just like this upside down. Well, he's a lefty for years. 613 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,280 I mean, for up until he passed away in the 90s. 614 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,640 Be a be an offender, you know, connoisseur. 615 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,360 I'm like, OK, well, that's, that's cool. 616 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:07,120 And it's a 1966 bound neck charcoal frost strap, which just 617 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,200 as a guitar is rare, tell bound neck strap in charcoal frost, 618 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:16,160 which is not typical color. So OK, I never seen a horn like 619 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,640 this either. I said, well, it's this guitar. 620 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:26,000 There's the pictures of lefty playing on records and never say 621 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:31,600 never, never say you got the only one of anything because in 622 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:39,960 the last week a second 66 Strat built for the NAMM show as a 623 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,160 lefty. But righty has the same cutaway, 624 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,360 same dimension, same year, same cutaway. 625 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:54,640 And it's not a coincidence. Lefty and whoever in San Jose 626 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,080 didn't get together and go, hey, did you did? 627 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,160 How did you cut your Strat? Nope. 628 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,720 And so, so and the pickguards are cut identical, the horns 629 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,480 identical. Something weird was happening in 630 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,719 66 and this was one of those things. 631 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,199 But it just he it looks like it's been in a fire, but it but 632 00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:24,280 it's not it's it's just it's this is years of checkerboard 633 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,960 lounge. Dude, the stories, literally the 634 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,520 stories that thing could tell. My friend Toronto Cannon is a 635 00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:32,320 wonderful Blues guitar player and singer. 636 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,560 Hit me to this because do you want Lefty Dizzy's 66 Strand? 637 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,199 I'm like, yes I do. What was the Fender Custom shop 638 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,840 like? When did that come into 639 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,760 formation? Because like how would a he get 640 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,199 a custom Fender job like this? Well, Fender was doing like some 641 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,920 the Custom Shop. Mike Stevens started out in 642 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,880 1989. So this was always just like a. 643 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,120 But again, with just like the Gibson's we were talking about 644 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,600 earlier, if you, you know, if you ordered it and waited. 645 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:04,920 And waited. You know. 646 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,760 They just make whatever you want though. 647 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,200 Or they make a run of something you know. 648 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,880 Dude that thing sounds cool though. 649 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:18,280 It's got a vibe. And by the way, a big props to 650 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,360 Nick at Joe Glazier's shop. He had to. 651 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,960 I'm sure he had to do so. Who had his work cut out for 652 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,360 him? He had a project. 653 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,720 Dude, he secretly hates you because you bring him these sick 654 00:35:29,720 --> 00:35:31,600 guitars and you go. Can you make this thing play 655 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,880 again? Well, you know, you know, 656 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,960 Charlie and I like a lot of those things that we buy 657 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,920 together, this being one of them. 658 00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:42,920 Go to glazier for frets and stuff like that. 659 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,000 And and I and I always tell Nick, I said, you know, Nick, 660 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,400 I'm next time I come in. And I finally did. 661 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,680 I said, you know, I collect mint guitars. 662 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,400 I swear, I swear to God. I swear I haven't. 663 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,040 And, you know, you just never see them because they don't need 664 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,800 work because they're mint. But he he loves these kind of 665 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,680 things because it's it's you know, I mean, it's history, but 666 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,520 it's also when I got it, I mean, the frets were worn through 667 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,480 through through the fret into the neck. 668 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,320 Couldn't get a chord out of it right. 669 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,200 But now guess what? It's playing, dude. 670 00:36:21,460 --> 00:36:22,420 So it sounds. Good. 671 00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:24,620 Joe takes that guitar. He's like, hey Nick, can you put 672 00:36:24,620 --> 00:36:26,860 some tires on it for me? And then he sees it and it's 673 00:36:26,860 --> 00:36:30,380 just thrashed. It's just it's, you know, but he 674 00:36:30,380 --> 00:36:34,220 played it. He wore out the contours on the 675 00:36:34,220 --> 00:36:37,280 other side of the body. He played it so much. 676 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,080 This this is worn. Is that the most worn Strat 677 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,760 you've ever seen? It's the most worn, yeah. 678 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,360 And it's also got like that indentation out of the back. 679 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,080 Got this. I don't know. 680 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,120 Carved out? Like what is he doing with that? 681 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,400 Was that like maybe he had a buckle? 682 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,920 Or maybe he had to. Be a buckle. 683 00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:54,800 I mean dude, the same guy played that thing for decades. 684 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,360 Decade. Wore it the same way, I bet you 685 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,280 know. Yeah, and and you know like in 686 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,560 towards the end half the binding was broken off on the on the 687 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,320 well for him it was the base side, but the treble side. 688 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,440 I didn't care if he's playing it any. 689 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,240 It looks like it's got a Mustang tuner for any year or something. 690 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:12,120 Oh yeah, and it's. It's got like last tuner. 691 00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:15,560 It's just like I want to work. Yeah, but think about it, man. 692 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,840 The dude was just playing and he's like, I got to keep my 693 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,400 guitar up. That's what I want my guitar to 694 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,920 look like by the time I'm done with it. 695 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,440 It's funny, you know, like we talk about like, you know, we 696 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,800 live in the age of, of aging, you know, artificially. 697 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,360 And it's, you know, I mean, like people like me go crazy for 698 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,680 stuff like that because it's preserve. 699 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,480 Yeah. But then there's people that pay 700 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,240 a lot of money to get some of the stuff that looks like that 701 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:42,160 beat up to look like this. Yep. 702 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,360 And well, obviously two different brands, but but it's 703 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,880 amazing what happens with with with new guitars. 704 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,120 We actually play some effing gigs. 705 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,520 You actually use them, you start to go wow, use. 706 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,880 Them what a concept. Hey, why does your guitar have 707 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,680 like checking on it, man, how did you do that? 708 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,960 Oh well, it's been. I've had it for a couple of 709 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,560 weeks. I mean a few decades. 710 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,760 Three months in, a trailer through every climate in Europe. 711 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,200 I actually brought this to several different windows and 712 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,000 left it for days on end to get this. 713 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,760 You know, it's funny that people don't realize this either. 714 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,240 A lot of times when a guitar is played like that, it's it's 715 00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:18,680 going to be aged though, to the point where maybe some things 716 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:19,760 are actually kind of wrong with it. 717 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,800 You're like, oh man, this doesn't feel right. 718 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,960 And it's like, well, yeah, somebody played this juice. 719 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,240 In the pickup slot. Somebody played the shit out of 720 00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:28,720 it. Let me check on my cushions. 721 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,280 Oh yeah dude, that cushion just rolled. 722 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,720 Are they making a break for the the ledge? 723 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,680 Joe, can I hit a note on this thing? 724 00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:38,720 Yeah, yeah, they're fine. I'll sort. 725 00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:39,800 Them out bro. Look at the. 726 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,760 Oh, it's, it's, it's completely crazy, but it does sound good 727 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,240 though. It sounds fucking cool. 728 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:04,600 What you got there? This is 1 owner 1964 Sonic Blue 729 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,240 strap and it's Sonic over Daphne. 730 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,160 Some of them are Sonic over White and this is Sonic over 731 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,400 Daphne. Dude, custom color strats are 732 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,240 tend to be a dicey, you know, game. 733 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,160 It gets a little bit like. Is it real or real? 734 00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:24,160 Yeah, this, this is a real 1. Where'd that one come? 735 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,040 Do you remember? This came out of North Carolina. 736 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,640 Wow. Another. 1 Sea foam When did 737 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,080 that start that color? Foam green would be much more 738 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,200 green than this. Yeah, that's. 739 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,680 What I thought about the same time, you know, custom color. 740 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,640 Lake class and blue is another one. 741 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,080 Candy Apple. Candy Apple, Shoreline. 742 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,800 Then you have Inca silver. There's, you know, there's a 743 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,800 teal green. What a time to be alive and pick 744 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:49,800 out a guitar man. But the. 745 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,160 The custom colors were not popular as far as I understand. 746 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,320 Is that right? And then they kind of like 747 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,080 weren't sought after. And now obviously, they're the 748 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,160 most sought after. They're always more money. 749 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,880 Even at point of purchase, they're always more money. 750 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,640 Especially if you $10.00 for extra $10.00 for gold parts, you 751 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,920 know and. Extra 10 bucks. 752 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,520 Which would have been a wise investment on. 753 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,040 Most a very wise investment. 10 bucks. 754 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,480 And they had a custom color chart if I want a Sonic blue and 755 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,360 they're all do Co colors. So it it it they'd match cars. 756 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,000 Exactly. So that there was, there was 757 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,840 Fords that were painted this color, you know, but if you, you 758 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,080 ordered it and you waited, you, you got, you got your Strat or, 759 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,920 you know, some music stores would stock them. 760 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,120 It's like, oh, I, I want to, you know, blue or gold or, you know, 761 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,200 burgundy mist or something like that. 762 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,440 And it's, you know. What's the rarest color that 763 00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,240 ever came charcoal. Well. 764 00:40:45,720 --> 00:40:50,160 Well, you said this is 2 colors. This is this is Sonic over 765 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:51,880 Daphne. So the the the the the. 766 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,000 Bottom code is. The bottom code is. 767 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,200 Daphne, which is not a normal thing, right? 768 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,760 Not a normal thing. OK, so I would say. 769 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,440 That might be the rare. Of of of Sonic blue strats. 770 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,000 This is the rare of the two, yeah. 771 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,840 Sure. Add a dollar, you know. 772 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,320 If it's your favorite color, add 10. 773 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,920 The rarest color is shell pink. Really. 774 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,600 It's only a couple of known proven shell pink Fender 775 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,800 guitars, not even Strat. Do you have any or no? 776 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,600 They didn't make enough of them compared to the other colors. 777 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,800 They made very few. Yeah, that would be and and and 778 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,520 sometimes shell pink is difficult to you know, it's 779 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:36,360 like, is it just faded Fiesta? But you know, you could if you 780 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,160 look at a real shell pink guitar, you'll see difference. 781 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,080 It's it's like, it's like if somebody added like, you know, 782 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,160 you know, just just one of those, you know, creamers to, to 783 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,640 to tea it just. It just hits it a little. 784 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,320 It just hits it a little bit little. 785 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,720 Heart in the espresso. Yeah. 786 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,200 What year was that one again? This is 64. 787 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,520 That's cool, looks like somebody maybe had their name on it or? 788 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:57,360 Something they did. Yeah. 789 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,080 And it's long gone, which is sad because they put these little 790 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,680 mailbox letters on. It's cool as shit. 791 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,280 And then there's some people the first thing to do is pop them 792 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,880 off. You're like, why it doesn't, you 793 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,320 know, like, like, like for the, the the Picard on Ted Miller is 794 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,320 polarizing. It's like, well, some people 795 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,880 like the some people like the paint it on name. 796 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,960 Some people don't. It's like, well, it's there, I'm 797 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,480 not going to take it off. Yeah, that's it. 798 00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:25,000 It's part of the history, part of the history. 799 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,160 Of the guitar, I'm trying to think of the green black Strat 800 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,680 that you have. That's sort of. 801 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,280 Oh, the green sunburst. Yeah, that that's my favorite 802 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,440 guitar I think that you own. That I've seen you play come 803 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:35,680 from norms. Yeah. 804 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:37,600 What year is that? Guitar. 805 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,480 That's a 64 as well. OK, I was thinking. 806 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,920 About, but it's not factory. It was an old reference. 807 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,920 Yeah, yeah, it's actually over the the the green sunburst is 808 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,480 over the original sunburst I. Figured oh wow, that's cool. 809 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,520 And, you know, some people would be like would have painstakingly 810 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,360 taken that. I mean, you just ruin it. 811 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,120 You know, it's like, but I'm starting to see knockoffs of 812 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,800 that, people copying the. It's seriously, I wanted the 813 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,320 moment I saw it, I was like, is that new or is it old? 814 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,480 I thought it was new because the color and it's like found out is 815 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,800 old. And. 64 is that your favorite 816 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,040 Strat year if you had this pick? Favorite Rosewood year is a 63. 817 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:17,440 OK. Favorite year overall is a 55. 818 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,800 My favorite neck, you know, but I'm also lucky enough to own 819 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:27,760 every single year so I I could spend time with them, you know? 820 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,280 It blows my mind how much I ask you about like Gibson stuff, but 821 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,160 I remember when you told me you're like, well dude, I know 822 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,600 the Fender stuff better and I know the. 823 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,320 Fenders stuff better. OK, so you had to rank your 824 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:43,080 knowledge fenders at the top? My bullshit meters is I, I, you 825 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,320 hand me a bad custom color, I just hand it right back to you. 826 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,200 I could see it. I don't I don't I don't need a 827 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,440 digital forensics. I don't need experts. 828 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,800 I'd just be like, I have my eyes go to the flaws and I'm like, 829 00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:00,080 thanks. You know, I, I'm not I I've had 830 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,240 really good luck with with guitar collecting. 831 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,560 I, you know, obviously I have all the books like everybody 832 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,200 else. I do not. 833 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,880 This one's my personal favorite, right? 834 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,120 Yeah. No, the book. 835 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,440 I just I just played on his his new. 836 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:14,880 Album you did. That's cool. 837 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,320 I love what we always, we always pick up something off Joe's 838 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,600 coffee table and he's like, well, it's. 839 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,840 Like when he had the when he had the Tommy Boland and I was like, 840 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,040 you mean this guitar? That's cool. 841 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,480 Yeah, Harry's a friend. That's awesome. 842 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,280 There's a Dumble book also in case. 843 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,840 The Dumble book, which was disavowed by Dumble. 844 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,680 Really. It's actually collectible and an 845 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,400 expensive book. It's part and parcel to the 846 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,200 same. Careful with that thing. 847 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,320 It's it's it's part and parcel of the same thing that goes 848 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,240 along with the hype of the amps I see. 849 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,440 Joe, I'm not going to lie, this might be a good one for me and a 850 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,320 lot of the viewers. How your guitar works. 851 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,720 Yeah, this is kind of my this is more my pace. 852 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,480 It's. Not bad. 853 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,800 All of this, all of the memorabilia stuff, that's that's 854 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,720 me cleaning out all. Going to shops. 855 00:44:56,720 --> 00:44:59,200 Yeah, all music stores, which are long, long gone. 856 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,840 It's it's it's, you know, like how much for this book? 857 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,280 Oh, just 20 bucks. OK. 858 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,480 Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally, dude. You know what's great, though? 859 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:12,080 And like, all bullshit aside, it's here to be enjoyed. 860 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,480 Like how much of that shit got thrown away? 861 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,240 A lot of it. Yeah. 862 00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:19,360 How much of that stuff, well you never see again just because it 863 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,520 was like, Oh yeah, we're we don't need any of the files that 864 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,560 shops going out of business throw it all away. 865 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,120 They throw it all away. I mean, even Gibson would throw 866 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,280 stuff away. They'd, you know, if you if you 867 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,240 sent this guitar in for warranty work in the 70's, the first 868 00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:33,960 thing they would do is strip all the parts off it. 869 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,840 Yeah, PAF and. Guitar after. 870 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,680 And then they would, they would upgrade it for free. 871 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,520 Everybody wanted a super Strat and they wanted more gain. 872 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:47,120 And now everybody wants PAFS and, and they're reverse 873 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,320 engineering these and. Transparent OverDrive. 874 00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:52,800 Transparent OverDrive. I don't even know what a 875 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,160 transparent OverDrive is. Why I do that's that is some 876 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,560 bullshit. Let me explain it to you 877 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,600 exactly. It's it's in a pedal and it 878 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,720 takes your fingers and it just magically enhances. 879 00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:08,760 That dude, that dude Josh Scott right from JHSI think I saw him 880 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,440 in a shirt that said it. Like for a joke I just said 881 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,880 transparent OverDrive. It's AI mean you need marketing 882 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,480 to sell things. It exists in the Guitar World, 883 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,560 it exists everywhere. Transparent OverDrive. 884 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,680 You don't know what it means, but. 885 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,920 You feel it bro? I actually, you know what I 886 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,160 think it means. It means it doesn't color the 887 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,520 sound of your amp. I think generally that's what it 888 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,360 means. So a Tube Screamer, you can feel 889 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,360 a little bit of that mid range Tube Screamer juice, whereas A 890 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:38,200 clon, you might just feel like your amps are a little louder 891 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,520 and there's a bit of stain that you can get out of it. 892 00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:42,960 But it's generally the sound of the amp. 893 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,400 That's what they say Transparent OverDrive supposed to do. 894 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:46,560 Just give. Me A turn the amp up. 895 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,840 Yeah, exactly. Somebody said to me the other 896 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,880 day, they're like, Jared, how can I get this amp to just break 897 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,600 up up a little bit more? And I said turn the fucking 898 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,280 thing up. Just turn it up. 899 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,440 You don't need a pedal, you just turn it up. 900 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,560 All I need a pedal that I always leave on. 901 00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:02,440 No, just take it and just put it a little bit. 902 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,320 More Well, guess what, Jared? You're going to get. 903 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:05,760 People are going to be so pissed at you. 904 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,280 Like, I can't turn it up, man. I'm not in a dude. 905 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,200 Jared's not in the Royal alcohol, man. 906 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,480 Yeah, Jared said. Well, I mean, I mean, it's, 907 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,960 it's, we're really in, we're really in the dark ages of 908 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,480 guitar volumes. It's just just in the dark ages, 909 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:28,720 it's, it's it, you can't take something that was designed to 910 00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:34,120 be offensive and scare parental figures and tame it down to 911 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,360 where it's got to be dangerous at some point. 912 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:43,440 It's got guitar is by nature loud and, and a weapon and it 913 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,640 has to, it just has to be. Now, do you have to play at 914 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,200 extreme levels? No, but without moving air, 915 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,880 It's, it's, it's, it's pretty tough to to get that big thick 916 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,520 sound. Well, here's here's my thing 917 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,240 that I'll just say about that. When you do what you just said 918 00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:01,520 and you have everything solo, I don't care. 919 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,320 What if you're into old gear, new gear, whatever it is, But 920 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,520 the actual tones, the overtones that happen, the things that 921 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,680 happen when a guitar is in a marriage with an amplifier and 922 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,400 it's at a certain volume, those are things that can't be 923 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,960 replicated. There's certain overtones or 924 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:21,000 there's inconsistencies with where things will lie. 925 00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,760 And why is this note sustaining like crazy or why is this, you 926 00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,760 know, the attack completely different? 927 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,560 It's because of that sheer Sonic force that's happening. 928 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,960 I'm not a scientist, but I know that when I turn an amp up and I 929 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,920 have a guitar in front of it, it's going to react a lot 930 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,360 different than when I'm sitting in front of the computer or with 931 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,760 a plug in saying we'll just turn it down, it'll be the same. 932 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,240 It's not, because The thing is, even when you turn the amp up 933 00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:50,880 doesn't mean the guitar has to be all the way up, because you 934 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:56,040 can get some really amazing, very articulate fat sounds by 935 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,560 rolling down the volume of the guitar with the amp crane. 936 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,120 But you need the amp volume to access that. 937 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:06,120 You need the headroom because if you turn it so low, there's 938 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,240 there's, there's no headroom and you just be like, well, it's 939 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,240 either off or on. And then when you get a real 940 00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:14,040 drummer. That's what I think is the best 941 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,680 about guitar. Like you said, that offensive 942 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,800 nature that it can be, but it's so pleasing. 943 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,720 And when you get in that, when you get it in that thing with a 944 00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:23,520 drummer and a bass and you're starting to compete and 945 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,320 everything's kind of fighting for frequencies and it's 946 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,440 fighting for that noise. It's gorgeous. 947 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,800 Yeah, and, and, and you have to, you have to risk being offensive 948 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,720 to someone. Yeah, you didn't. 949 00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:39,160 Nobody makes it to the top by not offending everyone or 950 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:40,920 anyone. It's just you're always going to 951 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,600 make somebody pissed off. Actually, most people might 952 00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,480 actually be pissed off, whether or not the majority express it. 953 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,320 You're going to piss people off with your success or your rise 954 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,120 to Tone Kingdom, you know. I always promised you guys one 955 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,880 click bait. I'm going to give it to you now, 956 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,200 OK? 321. 957 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:05,920 Imagine someone like Edward Van Halen appearing on the scene and 958 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:12,680 instead of a 68 plexi with a lay down transformer, a univox, an 959 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:18,160 MXR phase 45, a basket weave cabinet with some altex half 960 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:23,240 altex half selections and A and A and a boogie bodies Strat 961 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,440 thing that he wired himself. Imagine if the same any van 962 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,560 shows up with a Neural and a Sir. 963 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,880 Is it as cool now? Now, I'm not knocking John, Sir, 964 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:43,200 I'm not knocking Neural. Oh no, I'm both quality, 965 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,840 wonderful. John's great great amp builder. 966 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,840 Great guitar builder. Neural sponsors this show 967 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,880 occasionally. Great invention, yes, But I 968 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,360 mean, I've just posed it. I posed the question. 969 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,880 Objectively not as cool I would say. 970 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,760 All things being equal, same playing, same songs. 971 00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,040 But when we talked about when we sat down, people hear with their 972 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,920 eyes. Yeah, it's it's the whole thing. 973 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:16,800 Do you think that there's anything disingenuous or 974 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,880 materialistic or like fake about that, that you have to be 975 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,840 surrounded by things to convey the feeling to people? 976 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:25,720 Because I totally agree with you. 977 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:30,280 Do you think that people would be like, I don't even notice 978 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,080 that there's no speaker on the stage? 979 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,840 And then to me, I'm like, well, but you don't feel the 980 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,760 difference because I've seen players performing with the 981 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,840 digital in that stage feel. And then I've seen players like 982 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:46,280 you. And that sort of difference in 983 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:50,280 the dynamic level is apparent even to my girlfriend, who's not 984 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,320 a musician whatsoever. She was talking about your show 985 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,240 in particular where she was like, wow, that sounded and I 986 00:51:57,240 --> 00:51:59,000 won't, you know, say who these artists are. 987 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,160 It was great performances regardless, but seeing a digital 988 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:08,320 performance like digital guitar, amps, etcetera, modelers, it 989 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,160 sounded so perfect and there were dynamics within the 990 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,440 performance, but there were no physical dynamics as an 991 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,640 audience, right? So that's the the biggest 992 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:22,400 difference that I feel and it's very apparent to musicians or 993 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,680 non musicians. It's I'll tell you what, I'm in 994 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:29,440 this of a generation where I was the last to, to know the 995 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,120 difference to, to, to, to, to have experienced the difference. 996 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:41,920 Like I remember seeing, you know, Chris Kane in the early 997 00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:46,480 90s when he first came out and he had that 335 and a fucking 998 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:52,360 mess of Boogie Mark one in a the dinosaur barbecue and just 999 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,960 ripping your face off and you're like, that's life changing. 1000 00:52:56,720 --> 00:52:59,760 That that's a binary experience. That's life, life changing. 1001 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:00,920 Yeah. Danny Gatton. 1002 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,000 He had a Super Reverb of Vibrilux that beat up 53 free 1003 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,960 telly. And he had one of those Chandler 1004 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,800 digital stereo echoes or a Boss echo when he did the, you know, 1005 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:17,360 you know, see, when he did the when he did train, train and it 1006 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:21,200 was so loud. Life, life changing. 1007 00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:26,400 You know, it says to see Eric Johnson back in the day with the 1008 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:31,840 rig life changing. That's what plants the seed for 1009 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,440 all forever. And and it's not that what is 1010 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,520 happening now with digital and no amps and no speakers on 1011 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,280 stage. It's not wrong. 1012 00:53:41,720 --> 00:53:45,320 I get why they do it. You know, all you have to do is 1013 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:50,840 is I'll show you an invoice for SES, which is special event 1014 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:55,840 services and SES provides me with the sets, which is the 1015 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,600 special event trucking trucking. So, so all I have to do is show 1016 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,480 you one week's invoice on three semi trucks and and you'll, 1017 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,400 you'll, you'll go. A digital baby you'll. 1018 00:54:05,720 --> 00:54:07,840 Neural. You'll get the neural. 1019 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,440 Quick, yeah, yeah, well, I absolutely that's. 1020 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,680 So part of it, so and, and then, you know, to the power of, you 1021 00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,960 know, I, you know, actually I have 10 trucks. 1022 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:22,240 And anyway, I get why they do it. 1023 00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:27,720 Yes, I also get why my opinions are the way they are is because 1024 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,560 I was there. I saw Marquis Ramon at a little 1025 00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,280 club in Munich in New York and he had plexis and he had 50 Watt 1026 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,640 Marshalls. And I was just, you know, it was 1027 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,880 maybe 150 people there and he had to like just punk rock. 1028 00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:45,520 But, but like, like the tone Marshall tone that you wanted, 1029 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,160 but they were coming out of actual amps and it was like, 1030 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,680 that's what they used, you know, and, and it was like, that's, 1031 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,320 those are the kind of things that are instilled in memory 1032 00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,760 that you never, you never forget that, you know, a whole pile of 1033 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,840 Fender ants all linked together and it's, you know, Ronnie Earle 1034 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:08,160 just crushing it, you know, with two supers and and and and and a 1035 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:12,920 beat up 57 Strat, you know, like that's, that's, that's why all 1036 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,720 of this exists here. Like you said, Joe, the the 1037 00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:20,680 easiest way to put it as if like if you have to fight about it or 1038 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,320 you try and fight someone to tell them why digital is better 1039 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,200 or why this is better. I just don't think it's a real 1040 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,080 valid argument. It's just like, what do you like 1041 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,200 do you? And and for me personally, the 1042 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:38,160 music that I love and the music that I worship, it was created. 1043 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,200 It's just like the tools that you use, right? 1044 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:43,840 If you want to Marshall or you want to Les Paul or these 1045 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,240 things, it's like, I'm going to go straight to the source. 1046 00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:50,720 I think that you can cut out all of this weird thing where it's 1047 00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:54,240 like, well, I can get that with this and it's like, OK, if that 1048 00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:58,080 makes you happy and that serves the purpose for you, then you 1049 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,720 should do that. For me, there's something about 1050 00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:03,560 having weight to the notes, and when you have that volume and 1051 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,280 you have that thing with the guitar, it's the symbiotic 1052 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,720 relationship that makes me feel like I'm closer to the music 1053 00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:12,360 that I love and I'm closer to the reason why I do it. 1054 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,160 That doesn't come down to a dollar. 1055 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,440 That doesn't come down to, well, this guitar is from this year or 1056 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,520 whatever. No, that's just the love of the 1057 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,640 music. And I, when Joe picks up a 1058 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,440 guitar and plays, I don't think to myself, Oh my gosh, look, 1059 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,800 he's playing that guitar with that. 1060 00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,200 I think to myself, no, that gives me the same feeling. 1061 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:32,880 Just like you said when you saw it in a club. 1062 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:37,080 It's like there's something so spiritual and so magnetic with 1063 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,320 that. That's why all this exists. 1064 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,720 About all you know, and it's like I've had people, companies 1065 00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:44,280 come to me. It's like, you know, we can, we 1066 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,640 can clone your dumbbells and put them in a digital format and, 1067 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,000 and, and you know, you can leave them at home. 1068 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,080 I said, then I'll just sell them. 1069 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:57,320 I go, I the, the reason why I have them is to use them out in 1070 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,480 the wild. And I, I, I'm not looking to 1071 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,480 obfuscate. I'm not looking to leave 1072 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,840 anything at home. It's like it matter of fact, I'm 1073 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,680 really in a stage of my life where it's user lose it. 1074 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,920 It's like if I am not using it, it's not, it's not part of the 1075 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,760 toolkit or something. Get rid of it. 1076 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,400 Let somebody else have it because because it's I'm not 1077 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,960 going to. I'm not going to, you know, it's 1078 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:26,160 like I'm conflicted by the 3:35. It's like, I'm like, yeah, it's 1079 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:29,360 great that I own it, but it's going to have to get some studio 1080 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,040 time or else I'm going to get rid of it. 1081 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,280 It's use it or lose this, this notion of of saving it for a 1082 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:36,960 rainy day. Well, guess what, It's raining. 1083 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:38,960 It's literally it's about day out. 1084 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,680 It's like, oh dude, we better not turn that all the way up or, 1085 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,080 you know, really. I got to save this for, you 1086 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,360 know, something else down the line. 1087 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,840 It's almost like classic cars in a sense too, where it's 1088 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,080 beautiful to look at. It's like it's really cool. 1089 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,080 But the fact is too, if you're not driving them and you're not 1090 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,320 really using them and they're just kind of being put away, 1091 00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,160 it's like put away for what is. There, one more guitar you want 1092 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,560 to crack out. You'll never lose it. 1093 00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,120 Even if you don't use it, you'll never lose. 1094 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,440 It well I wanted a guitar that I'm normally not associated with 1095 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:14,040 Gretsch. I love Gretsch guitars and I 1096 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,200 like the 50s ones. Well of course King Cork sniffer 1097 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:21,440 but the 50s ones tend the Gretches have binding issues, 1098 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,520 especially early 60s ones country jets the. 6120. 1099 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:30,960 One Tennesseans and all that stuff, the 50s ones tend not to 1100 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,880 have the binding issues, which is which is good. 1101 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,640 And they have these little G brand ones. 1102 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:39,880 So this is a 56 and it's a 6120 Chet Atkins. 1103 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,040 And, and they're just, they're just cool, you know? 1104 00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,320 Bro think about back in the day though when someone did that, 1105 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,480 threw a nasty ass tube amp and they went oh and Hall you went 1106 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,840 what? I've never heard that. 1107 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,280 Dude that is the coolest. I, I, I use Gretsch guitars in 1108 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,480 the studio a lot when I'm producing records and I find 1109 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,080 myself a lot of times playing rhythm on, on the record. 1110 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:27,400 And, and they're great for rhythm guitars because they're, 1111 00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:32,680 they're, they, they bark, you know, but, but they, but they 1112 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,560 have the dearmonds or the filter trons, depending on like what 1113 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:41,600 year they tend to have a cool. They sit in the track really 1114 00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,360 well. They're a little bit brighter 1115 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,560 than a humbucker, but not as bright as a as a single coil. 1116 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:49,760 And they just, they have a, they have a thing. 1117 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,120 It's filter trons. These are D armands and then the 1118 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:57,080 the the the next era of of like the the the classic Brian Setzer 1119 00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,680 6120. Those are those are filter. 1120 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,560 Trons, dude, it's got like a bark of AP 90, but it's a little 1121 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,640 bit more humbucker like it's got like a little bit more of a it's 1122 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:11,400 not so squishy and. Then the like the the bar cool. 1123 01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,200 These are fixed arm Bigsby's which are not a lot of fun but. 1124 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,000 That bar looks like archaic dude, like right here. 1125 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,640 This era 6120 see how the the bars fixed arm. 1126 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,480 Yes, you can't move it. You can't move. 1127 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,160 It down so you could like run into it by accident. 1128 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,520 It's fixed arm and you know, they these these are the fancy 1129 01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:32,640 models. So you get the, you know, you 1130 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:37,520 get the, the, the the western inlays and I have a couple of 1131 01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:43,960 roundups which are the Les Paul. Oh yeah, G branded orange, but 1132 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,760 they look like a Les Paul. They got the leather out, is 1133 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,800 that the? Ones with the the leather straps 1134 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,120 and and there was actually a there was actually a knife that 1135 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:51,960 came of. Leather. 1136 01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,360 No way. Leather I've only seen one. 1137 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:59,560 David Brass had this guitar, not this particular, but a 6120 1138 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,160 would had the strap and the knife. 1139 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,600 Dude they need to bring that back. 1140 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,960 Start start sending out knives with the guitars. 1141 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,400 Like about to say, let's go, let's bring the knife back with 1142 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,040 the 61. Well. 1143 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:16,920 In the 50s, apparently humans were smart enough to not take 1144 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:23,360 but put 600° hot glass bulbs in their hand. 1145 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,040 Now Fender has to put a tube guard around all the tubes. 1146 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,800 Yeah, to not touch it, yeah. Because we as a species have. 1147 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,880 Devolved people go, what's this like but. 1148 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:34,920 Can you imagine? Can you imagine the liability? 1149 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,280 Now it's sending out knives. We. 1150 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:37,680 Could Oh no, it never would happen. 1151 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,280 I could see even them bringing like the old, like a Red Ryder 1152 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,320 BB gun, bro. Oh yeah, You know, like the 1153 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,520 whole dude. It's kind of cool because it's 1154 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,800 like a jazz box too, in a way. I don't know, Gretcher's so 1155 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,840 cool. Yeah, I mean, I, I, I they're 1156 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,600 kind of like my secret weapon in the studio. 1157 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,240 I really. And I'm not usually associated 1158 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,920 with them, you know, my, my, you know, I said, well, why don't 1159 01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:02,600 you play them live? Well, my live rig is so loud 1160 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,040 that if I plug this thing, you know, there's no, there's no, 1161 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,560 that's not like a three. Straight up hollow right in. 1162 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,920 There straight hollow if I plug this thing up and turn the 1163 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:14,240 volume all the way up the top would blow off the guitar. 1164 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:15,480 Back to the feature, but the guitar. 1165 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,120 Balls, Yeah, yeah. So these are kind of unusable. 1166 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,720 It's super high volumes. But like you know, today we're 1167 01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:28,560 using the new dumbbell Tweedle D. 1168 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,640 What's funny is we were talking about all this debate about what 1169 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,960 you're playing through. You can't sit here and tell me 1170 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,200 that you didn't play like that because you were playing, you 1171 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,160 know, you played like that because you had that guitar and 1172 01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:50,040 the sound. Yeah. 1173 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:50,920 Do you know what I'm trying to say? 1174 01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:52,400 Yeah. Like it's an instantaneous 1175 01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,840 thing. It it it drives you to a certain 1176 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:58,240 place. That's so cool. 1177 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,200 Shall you I? Mean I I guess then we should 1178 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:20,920 probably shut it down because. Then we'll shut it down. 1179 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,280 We'll get our. I'm just going to. 1180 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:47,320 I don't need to play a lot. I'm good. 1181 01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:48,200 That's it. I'm good. 1182 01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:50,280 Yeah. Well, that's a, you know, 1183 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,760 honestly, this, this, this is a perfect example of three 1184 01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,680 different approaches, 3 different sounds, you know, but, 1185 01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:59,560 you know, I mean, it's again, all this, this stuff, that stuff 1186 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,480 is valuable for a reason because it works and it, and it sounds 1187 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,920 and it works well and it's, and it's, can you achieve this by 1188 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,880 other means 1000%? Hey, but we're having fun. 1189 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,200 But we're having fun. Almost as much fun as we're 1190 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,840 going to have on that cruise. Oh yeah, the keeping the Blues 1191 01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:14,520 alive. We can't. 1192 01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,640 We can't forget to mention that. We're going on the cruise. 1193 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,520 You guys can't come on this one because it's already, you know, 1194 01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,960 about to happen, but next year. We're already sold out. 1195 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:23,880 Next year I. Was about to say never mind, 1196 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,200 never mind. Already sold out next year. 1197 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,720 We we definitely have a very great loyal fan base that comes 1198 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:37,200 every year in our our our Soundwave weekend in Miramar, 1199 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,760 FL. It's sold out in a day. 1200 01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:42,200 Wow, and and it's like, you know, so everybody's how many 1201 01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,520 people 5005 thousand 5000 for that. 1202 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,760 But it's three day weekend. So and it's, you know, I mean, 1203 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,960 there's every, you know, it's first night, it's it's us and 1204 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,480 Kenny when Shepherd. Then there's second nights 1205 01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,120 government mule Grace Potter. Dude Congrats on the government 1206 01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,040 mule run too. That's going to be so sick. 1207 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,600 Yeah, we're we're, I asked. I asked Warren about the Sodano. 1208 01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:07,160 00 and. And I asked, I just did love 1209 01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,200 rocks with him. And I, I said, I said, what's 1210 01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,680 the OK, what, what's the, what's the Warren mob? 1211 01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,680 He goes OK here, here's what it was when he first got the amp in 1212 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:21,280 the early 90s or 90s. The amp he only because I only 1213 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,320 run the gain about 2 1/2. I got no kidding. 1214 01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,640 But in order to get that kind of bottom end, that hump, you know 1215 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:31,080 he had to run, you have to run the the gain up to like 5 or 6 1216 01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:37,000 to get the bottom to kind of so the switch is a low, a low mid 1217 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:41,200 boost so he can run the game down low and get the hump. 1218 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,760 Oh, OK. And he was running the base all 1219 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,640 the way up to 10. He shouldn't have to run like 1220 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,280 that. So, So that's that. 1221 01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:48,920 That's all it is. Let's go smoke a cigar. 1222 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:52,640 Let's go smoke a cigar. Dude, thanks for having us. 1223 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,640 Thank you so much, man. Yeah, more to come. 1224 01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:57,560 We have to. We still have to tick off. 1225 01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,160 Tyler texted me this morning, he's like, I'm so excited to go 1226 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,560 to Joe's and I just sent them the emoji of Willy Wonka. 1227 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:04,920 Did you chop it dude? Here you go. 1228 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,960 Look, I'm going to chop it. Watch your fingers, guitar 1229 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,200 players. I got to make sure I get a good 1230 01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,000 clean shot. When you're hanging out with Joe 1231 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:11,760 B, you got to make sure you chop. 1232 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:13,480 It's good. Oh, yeah, dude. 1233 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,560 Come on, you. Got it going on bro. 1234 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,240 Cigars and diet cokes man, this is part of the journey.