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Welcome back to a bit of 
Thursday night action. 

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This is the second time we've. 
Been a lovely chat before 

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anyway. 
Thank you to ourselves. 

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So this is with myself and Jane 
and the wonderful Carl Hartley. 

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So tonight we're going to be 
talking about what investigating

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some of the biggest and most 
amazing supercars which never 

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made production. 
Ferraris, Lamborghinis, 

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Bugattis, all the stuff which 
were canned before it saw the 

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shelves for selling, such as 
first, the Ferrari medullo. 

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Here we go. 
Is that on the screen, Reece? 

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There we go. 
We're working with flying 

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tonight. 
There we go, 1970. 

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Yeah. 
So this car is a privately owned

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car. 
How much must that would be 

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worth? 
I mean, I don't know when it was

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sold. 
I can never remember it going on

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the market, but I know it's a 
privately owned car. 

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I think it's actually owned in 
the States. 

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Wow. 
It's made a couple of 

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appearances over the years at 
different car shows at the 

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Pebble Beach Concourse. 
I know it's been there. 

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I've seen this car on on 
pictures. 

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I've never seen it in the flesh.
OK, so I've got this car. 

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Yep. 
Give me a price today. 

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I'm going to call somebody else.
Carl, 54. 

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I would I would pay $3,000,000 
for that car completely blind. 

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It might be. 
It might be worth double, but 

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I'd I'd take the chance. 
I'd give $3,000,000 for it. 

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Now if you own that car, whoever
you are, I will pay $3,000,000. 

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I say dollars because I think 
it's in America. 

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It looks like a UFO. 
Yeah, it's weird, isn't it? 

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Although I wouldn't want to, you
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they didn't bring it out. 
Can you? 

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You want to buy 1A minute go? 
Listen, I'll buy anything. 

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You know what I am but. 
I already commented Kevin 

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McHale. 
Was it shaped like a piece of 

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toast? 
It's. 

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More, it's more like a door. 
Wedge it. 

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Looks like someone's trod on it.
Wash my mouth. 

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So I'm thinking well. 
I guarantee it's got some kind 

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of B12. 
I've got 5 litre. 

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Got some stats? 
OK. 

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Not about the engine. 
Got some stats? 

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Now we've got the modular 
started as one of 25512 S sports

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racing cars. 
OK, so 512 means 5 litre V12. 

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You're right. 
So yeah, that's what would have 

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been. 
You should do this as a job. 

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You know, it's that hobby at the
minute. 

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No, it's a non profitable hobby 
at the minute. 

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But I might turn sell sheets. 
I I might just commit to it. 

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I might commit to it and see 
where it's a. 

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So it's extremely low wedge 
shaped body, almost completely 

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covered all four wheels. 
And this this is a sliding glass

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canopy like the KTM. 
So no doors? 

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No. 
Yeah. 

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No, no, no doors. 
So. 

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It's fighter jet. 
Yeah, the whole, the whole that 

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whole middle bit. 
I think I think it could be a 

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three seater that. 
'D be even cooler. 

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I think. 
As in one in the front, two in 

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the back. 
Yeah, as in like a McLaren F1? 

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No, I think that's. 
No. 

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We started that already with two
Phil. 

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It's it's 5 past 6 on a Thursday
evening, Bryce. 

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I heard it and it's like a light
bulb. 

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Bang, there we go. 
Now it's Sparky. 

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Moving. 
On back to cars so. 

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It was manufactured obviously in
1970, after 440 years, it was 

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restored. 
So like, yeah, that one, the one

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car was restored and it was 
taken on the road for the first 

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time in 2018. 
So it's a real car. 

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There you go. 
Made the one it's. 

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Got nowhere mirrors either. 
Is it? 

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I don't know why I do that when 
I say. 

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But you know what? 
Before quite a few cars that era

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didn't need to have wig mirrors.
Oh yeah, Pull out. 

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Yes. 
I'd just leave. 

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Should I? 
I'd rather you did it get like 

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that, to be honest. 
We're friends. 

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But yeah, we're not, we're 
close. 

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But yeah, things could get 
strange. 

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But yeah, so I can see how that 
car can be Rd. legal. 

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It's got a window wiper, it's 
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to have wing mirrors in 1970. 
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looked ridiculous back then 
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Well, yeah, hence why they 
didn't bring it out. 

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SST training says it looks like 
a pop tart. 

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It does look like a pop tart. 
See, Carl has no idea what a pop

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tart. 
Is. 

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No, I don't. 
They don't sell them at M&S. 

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No, I'm not. 
I'm not a snack kind of person, 

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you know? 
You're not. 

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No, I've got no sweet tooth at 
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Haven't you? 
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I don't eat sugar or sweets or 
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Not proper Adonis then. 
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have like a like food, like if 
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yeah, anything God Chinese. 
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going to have 3000 calories, it 
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in a pack of doughnuts. 
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sensible attitude. 
Don't really don't use it for 

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me. 
Oh. 

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We've got. 
A poll. 

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Oh, we've got a poll. 
We're running a poll then, So 

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what is it? 
Should it have been made yes or 

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no? 
Did you put the pole on just or 

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before? 
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Brilliant. 
Well done. 

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OK, there you go. 
Right next. 

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One pole for the next one. 
Seamless, isn't it? 

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Absolutely seamless. 
Chris Norman's just commented. 

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You're sitting the wrong way 
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Mark and Jane have had a 
fallout. 

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We're still, we can still, still
get to each other, right? 

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Next is the Aston Martin 
bulldog. 

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Oh, I mean, it's there. 
We go have. 

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We got picture race I. 
Mean it's. 

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It's just. 
Theme this again. 

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Well done. 
You know how this is working, 

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don't you? 
Tonight the. 

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Best thing about that car is the
number plate. 

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Yeah, though you still use that.
Now don't. 

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They yeah, that's, I mean, 
that's possibly the ugliest 

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thing I've ever seen. 
Do you know what it looks to me?

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Are ugly though. 
Aren't I right? 

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They don't even look like a 
bulldog. 

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I see Lotus Esprit. 
I see. 

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I see Lamborghini. 
Lamborghini Uraco, Tash or 

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Uraco? 
The new, the new not coontash. 

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The new coontash. 
The new one. 

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How's that spelled? 
COUNTACH. 

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Count well. 
I've done that thing. 

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I've known like Gayardo. 
I say, I say contash. 

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Yeah. 
And people like, you know, the 

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people that pick you up are not 
saying Porsche. 

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Yeah, Like those people. 
Yeah, them, yeah. 

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They, they, they harm me on it. 
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I don't care. 
So yeah, that that's very. 

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Awful. 
It's very, you know what, 70s 

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you know. 1979. 
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seventies. 
They made some howlers in the 

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70s I. 
Wasn't around but. 

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Chris Roberts has put looks 
straight out of the Peugeot 206 

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advert where the elephant sits 
on the car. 

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They loved the right angle 
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Pop up lights. 
They love the. 

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That's still the car which I 
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car I still like. 
You do, and shallow, Thomas put.

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If Tesla and a countash had a 
baby. 

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That that's a good thing. 
Do you? 

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Remember a car called a Victor? 
No. 

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Yeah, kind of looks a bit like a
victor. 

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I think now then, so William's 
hound style that Astomati 

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bulldog loves, he loves the 
wedge, he loved the wedge. 

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He does love a wedge, loved the 
wedge. 

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It was planned there was going 
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each one to have a twin turbo 
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horsepower, top speed of 237. 
Imagine doing 237 in 19. 

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There is no way in in the world 
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An hour? 
Imagine doing 237 miles an hour 

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with a perm. 
It's just not, that's just not 

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doing 237 miles an hour. 
I. 

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Actually be going like that. 
Surgery Martin can't make a car 

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now that do 237 miles an hour, 
so adult that door wedge is 

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going to do 237 miles an hour. 
Oh yeah. 

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Probably the most unaerodynamic 
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it's got AW32 engine from 
Bugatti. 

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You're right, because if I'd 
have read the the next line, OK,

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the claim was somewhat 
optimistic. 

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OK. 
The claim the The test showed 

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the Bulldog. 
The Bulldog topped out at 192 

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mph. 
Was that a claim or a real 

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thing? 
A. 

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Real thing, apparently. 
But it's still impressive. 

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It had traditional leather and 
high tech LED screens. 

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I think this car, if you have a 
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that's some kind of pop up wing 
mirror slash, maybe even a 

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camera in 1979. 
No way. 

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Well, it looks like it do. 
You not think it's a flag that 

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might go? 
Instead of indicators just like,

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yeah, no, that's definitely 
something to do with a wing 

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mirror. 
And I think that car, well, I 

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would say that car is legally 
Rd. registered. 

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Oh, I've got news. 
OK, so Victor Guntlett pulled 

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the plug on the car, the 
Assamante chairman in 1981. 

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So if anybody wants one of them,
it's Victor's fault. 

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They made one. 
Yeah. 

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And they sold it for. 
OK, I'm going to do this again 

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When? 
OK, they sold it. 

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I'm guessing the one that he's 
sold by the factory doesn't say 

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when. 
But that makes a big difference 

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because in 1979, a Ferrari 
Daytona, well, Daytona was sort 

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of in, in 7476, they were about 
20,000 lbs and that was AV 12 

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front engine, you know, flagship
Ferrari. 

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So if this was sold in 1979, I 
doubt that it would have because

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it's one of one. 
It might have went for 30 OK. 

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Do you know what it reminds me 
of a little bit? 

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They sold. 
OK. 

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What would you what would you 
give me for now? 

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Sorry, what? 
Today I wouldn't give you a pack

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of crisps for that. 
I think it's you. 

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Don't think of crisps exactly, 
and that's why I wouldn't give 

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you. 
What would you give me for a 

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full course meal? 
£300. 

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Somebody paid £130,000 for that 
beauty. 

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Well, that must have been a. 
£130,000. 

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That wasn't in 1979, Definitely 
not. 

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Recently emerged from a large 
scale restoration. 

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Say that. 
See how they paid 130 grand for 

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that? 
Not in 1979, you wouldn't have. 

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No, I wasn't. 
Born the equivalent of giving 

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£6,000,000 for it. 
Look at a house for 130 grand in

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1979. 
Probably about two million now, 

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wouldn't it? 
More. 

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Way more. 
How was it? 

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How did the poll go, Reece? 
OK, so the poll. 

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So should this car be made or 
not? 

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Yeah. 
A. 108 votes. 

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Yeah. 63% of people said no. 
Yeah, there you go. 

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On you for saying 63 and not 64.
There's there's faith out there 

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amongst humanity. 
Right next page. 

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This is a good one. 
This is a bit of me. 

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This is proper bit me. 
So this is an Audi RS0021986. 

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Obviously it was going to be a 
rally car and a Group S, so it's

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less powerful than the Group B 
monsters. 

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It was all going to go ahead and
it was going to be even rarer 

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because it required less to be 
made for the Group S, But then 

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they changed the production 
details and it didn't happen. 

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Why is the car looking like it's
two cars welded together? 

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That's what Audi did though. 
I mean the front end of that car

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looks like some kind of Le Mans 
car and the back end of the car 

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looks like they kind of run out 
of ideas and it looks smaller at

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the back. 
I also see Audi TT and I see AVW

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Beetle as well in that do. 
You know what? 

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I think that would drive 
incredible. 

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Front doors, front that bit 
there is a Carrera GT. 

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No. 
Do you know, do you know Audi 

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right? 
Audi S1. 

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Do you know that rally car? 
Yeah, that is a cut and shut 

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between an Audi 80 and an Audi 
100. 

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So they made that car literally 
by cutting two cars and putting 

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them together. 
So it's an Audi 90. 

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That's brilliant. 
Yeah, simple mathematics. 

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It's just common sense. 
So is that got a guess or? 

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Is that like this? 
And I don't know why this wasn't

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made because that would have 
done really well. 

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And I bet 1986 with Audi's 
success in rally championships, 

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I think that would have drove 
unbelievable. 

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The reason they stopped is 
because rally the rally rules 

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change which then made that not 
a thing, otherwise it would have

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been a thing. 
It looks like it's something 

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that you would, you know, go on 
them hill climbs. 

253
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Yeah. 
You know, like. 

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Somebody's built in their 
garage. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, super fast. 
Yeah. 

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It's like that that's got that's
got AV126 litre in it. 

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Do you think Porsche got their 
idea for a spoiler from that? 

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Oh yeah. 
We see Audi, Porsche, 

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Volkswagen, kind of all related.
So there we go. 

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Big wing that that wins. 
Win Wednesdays, definitely. 

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Does anybody want that to be 
made, Reece? 

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I definitely want that to be 
made. 68% of people said yes. 

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Oh, that's, that's, that's 
that's. 

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And is that's the performance of
that car or not? 

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No, just that it got it got 
taken out of production because 

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the rally rules changed. 
I like it. 

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Right next. 
This is a nice car, a Mercedes. 

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Mercedes NSX. 1/2/1991 This one 
Now this has some interesting 

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facts, some very very. 
Going on with that. 

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Car 1991. 
So there'd be some power in this

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car. 
And this is kind of this will be

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leading up to the kind of CLKGTR
yeah, era. 

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And I bet that had something to 
do with the the so the making of

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a CLKGTR. 
What? 

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What engine would you think was 
that they'd have put in that 

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Mercedes V8V126 litre? 
The one is the same as the S 

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class. 
Really. 

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The 600 engine? 
Yeah. 

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Is it in the front or the back? 
Back. 

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Oh yeah, I would say so. 
I'd prefer prefer back, but like

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you just you just you take what 
you get that and when they're 

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doing small production cars like
this, right. 

283
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So interestingly, you know what 
Mercedes a light. 

284
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So this was a test bed for 
active suspension. 

285
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So the first active suspension, 
active steering, lots of 

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aerodynamics, tire pressure 
sensors, the adaptive cruise 

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control. 
Back in 1991, this car was 

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responsible for when your 
steering takes over. 

289
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Oh, really? 
This. 

290
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Well, that's been going that 
long. 

291
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The the side is that it was the 
first car to have an airbag 

292
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whatever ever. 
What a 1981. 

293
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It just says first airbag. 
That's all I've got for. 

294
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It'll be steering wheel. 
Yeah, First car to have ABS, 

295
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electronic stability, voice 
control of the car and obviously

296
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the line assist. 
So this was going to be 

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revolutionary, which obviously 
Mercedes are doing a lot anyway,

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haven't they? 
Mercedes are the sort of market 

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leaders for that sort of stuff. 
How do you think it looks? 

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Like say very NSX and. 
It drives up with that engine 

301
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though. 
The door, like, I think it's 

302
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just bloody beautiful. 
Sonny's put looks like a looks 

303
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like an F40. 
Front lights. 

304
00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,680
No XJ 220 I think I can see as 
well. 

305
00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,840
Tiny. 
Post a picture of an F40 so you 

306
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can see what it looks like. 
I think I like it. 

307
00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,880
Yeah, is is this a keeper or a 
thrower race? 

308
00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,400
Viewers said 89% of people said 
it was a keeper. 

309
00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:34,920
Really. 
Do you know what I think on that

310
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car as well, which is going to 
change your mind drastically? 

311
00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,080
I think that car has gullwing 
doors. 

312
00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:42,520
Oh. 
It has. 

313
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It has. 
Oh, you can see. 

314
00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,560
On the roof, yeah. 
Yeah. 

315
00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,360
Yeah, it's a bit Mclareny. 
Now, when I say gullwing doors, 

316
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I mean like like the 300 SLSLS 
gullwing doors. 

317
00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:55,560
Yeah, that's what I think that 
has. 

318
00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,920
So Mercedes reportedly received 
700 orders from customers who 

319
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are willing to buy the car 
regardless of cost. 

320
00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,560
So just showing the pitch, they 
said, yeah, I like it. 

321
00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:11,760
But production decided that C 
11-12 would never start 

322
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production crazy as they sold 
700. 

323
00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,040
Yeah, I've got no reason why 
they didn't. 

324
00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,720
But they they they didn't, Yeah.
Because like so that's the same 

325
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doors as like the SLS is. 
Yeah, the 300 SL and they were 

326
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the only two Gold Wing cars that
Mercedes made ever, apart from 

327
00:17:26,839 --> 00:17:28,680
that one, yeah. 
No way that was the third. 

328
00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:33,840
The first car that was made was 
a 300SL which was in 1955. 

329
00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,320
Ever sold one? 
Yeah, many of them have you, 

330
00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,240
Yeah, yeah. 
And actually the 300 SLR, which 

331
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was the car that Sterling Moss 
raced in the Million Millionaire

332
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in that recently sold a couple 
of years ago and it's been the 

333
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most expensive car ever sold, 
€144 million. 

334
00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,320
Really. 
That's the most expensive car 

335
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ever. 
Ever. 

336
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Ever. 144 Jesus. 
Next, we're going Lamborghini. 

337
00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,320
I like that Mercedes. 
I'd I'd buy one of them. 

338
00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:06,960
I wonder if there is. 
I suppose there is one 

339
00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,200
somewhere, because here we go. 
Lamborghini colour. 

340
00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,240
What do you reckon to that? 
Very. 

341
00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,600
Round that looks to me like. 
Yeah, you bit the nail on the 

342
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head there that. 
Looks to me like the Chinese 

343
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have made a Lamborghini. 
Yeah, I think you're right. 

344
00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,000
They've looked at a Diablo and 
go oh. 

345
00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,080
We'll make one of them. 
Yeah, I have an MR2. 

346
00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:36,800
So the Lamborghini color 1995. 
A few cars have endured such a 

347
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prolonged and agonized journey 
at the Lamborghini Kayla, first 

348
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shown as a concept car in 1995 
as the possible entry level to a

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Diablo. 
You can see it's the small like 

350
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you know the small version. 
Kind of Gallardo. 

351
00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,320
Yeah, yeah. 
I mean, that was probably the 

352
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prototype for a Gallardo really 
suppose. 

353
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It exactly was that. 
So Chrysler basically bought the

354
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supercar company and then when 
Volkswagen Group took over 

355
00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,600
Lamborghini in 1998, the collar,
the collar was dropped and work 

356
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began on the Gallardo instead. 
Oh. 

357
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,160
There you go. 
So that would have been the 

358
00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,280
Gallardo if Chrysler would have 
been in charge. 

359
00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,840
Thank God for the Audi 
Volkswagen. 

360
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,600
Top speed of 181 mph 4 wheel 
drive. 

361
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,680
But I think the Gallardo was the
better option. 

362
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,920
A lot better option. 
That's a flop my. 

363
00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,080
Weird in it the the shapes on 
the back. 

364
00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,240
Give it 2 thumbs down 
completely, but you see a bit of

365
00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,280
merch Lago at the front though. 
Yeah, definitely. 

366
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,480
And those wheels are very 
Diablo. 

367
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,680
Yeah, very. 
Not sure about the roof. 

368
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,160
Does that roof come off? 
I think. 

369
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,600
Oh yeah, that MI didn't say that
like a bit of an M but. 

370
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,400
It also looks like that that's a
targa roof that may come off. 

371
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,000
And that is that back spoiler's 
weird, isn't it, That. 

372
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,760
Back spoiler is like from wish. 
Horrendous. 

373
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,600
Awful. 
So does everybody vote for or 

374
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:04,040
against Reese? 
71 of people, 71% of people said

375
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,240
no. 
So that's a big flop. 

376
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,960
Big flop. 
I mean, it is ugly, isn't it? 

377
00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:12,960
Yeah, compared to what? 
So what's out there right then? 

378
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:27,120
The Volkswagen W12 1997. 
So I think, if I'm right, that 

379
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this was the start of the 
Bugatti Veyron. 

380
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:33,120
You. 
Think. 

381
00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:35,440
I think so. 
I see what you're saying. 

382
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:46,720
I remember this car back in the 
90s and I think this was what 

383
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:51,200
led up to the Bugatti Veyron. 
Interesting. 

384
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,360
Do you? 
Want me to read my stats do. 

385
00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,120
You want me to tell you why? 
Why? 

386
00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,960
Well because number one is a 
Volkswagen. 

387
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,800
Volkswagen Audi owned Bugatti 
and that was about the time they

388
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,800
they took over Bugatti. 
The fact that it's called AW12. 

389
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:14,120
Now the Bugatti has AW16 engine 
which is 2V eights put together.

390
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,800
Now obviously this W12 is 2 V 
sixes put together I would 

391
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:23,440
assume and obviously Volkswagen 
are not going to be able to sell

392
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,200
a car for £1,000,000 with a 
Volkswagen badge on it. 

393
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,960
So why not put a Bugatti badge 
on it? 

394
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:30,680
You've basically just read out 
what I. 

395
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:31,440
Put. 
There you go. 

396
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,840
I just didn't. 
I know what you're talking. 

397
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,240
About I'm like the Oracle so 
basically a concept was AW12420 

398
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horsepower. 
It was basically nought to six 

399
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in 3.5 seconds. 
Now this was going to be 

400
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,720
Volkswagen supercar. 
OK this is what they wanted, a 

401
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:53,440
supercar, but that it basically 
turned into AW16 Bugatti engine 

402
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:58,520
because Volkswagen tried with 
the Phaeton luxury saloon, 

403
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,640
failed, didn't sell any. 
So then they got spooked and 

404
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:08,440
never made a supercar because 
they thought that they were more

405
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,240
of a budget brand rather than a 
luxury car brand. 

406
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,520
The Phaeton was AW, it was AV 12
saloon. 

407
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,160
Incredible car. 
Like better car than an A8 or an

408
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,800
S8 that it would be super super 
super luxury. 

409
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,000
I've actually had a couple. 
I don't remember seeing them, 

410
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,560
yeah. 
Super super super luxury, great 

411
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,240
car. 
I think Volkswagens are great 

412
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,360
cars. 
Anyway, I'm all for this car. 

413
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,320
Definite yes, this should have 
been made. 

414
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,520
Reece, what does the people 
think? 

415
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,440
69% of people. 
Say yes, say yes yes. 

416
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:49,880
Well done everyone. 
I agree. 

417
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,920
Great looking car, almost like 
you say, a baby Bugatti. 

418
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,200
Beautiful. 
I think it's lovely. 

419
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,160
And imagine if it was like if it
didn't cost 35 grand to change 

420
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,160
the titers etcetera. 
Yeah, we probably would have. 

421
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,720
That would be that downfall. 
I wonder who owns that car now? 

422
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,440
I like that. 
Chris Roberts has commented 

423
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,400
saying I'm sure that this was in
Top Trump's in the 90s. 

424
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,440
Oh, that car. 
That's interesting. 

425
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:23,280
Ryan, can you check that out? 
Right, the Maserati Birdcage. 

426
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,360
This is a car. 
Yeah. 2005 so we're getting a 

427
00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:33,200
lot more modern now only 20 
years ago what we think into 

428
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,160
that. 
Love it. 

429
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,200
I can't put it on the screen 
because you've asked Ryan to 

430
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,640
type somewhere. 
Yeah, OK. 

431
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,920
So was it. 
It wasn't at Trump's. 

432
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,160
There we go, the Maserati 
Birkage. 

433
00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:50,520
Absolutely in love with that 
car. 

434
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,160
It's beautiful. 
That is a great car. 

435
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,840
Unfortunately, I don't know much
about it at all. 

436
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,040
So it was to mark 75 years of 
Maserati. 

437
00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:05,160
It's it was a gift to itself for
its birthday is what they did. 

438
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,760
Starred by Pinafarina. 
Yeah. 

439
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,920
It should have been a run rate 
success. 

440
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:16,080
It was based on the MC 12 and 
it's a Ferrari Enzo derived V12 

441
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engine, 700 horsepower. 
So there was a 1950s bird cage. 

442
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,320
There was, but this one was a 
closed cockpit. 

443
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,680
Basically didn't make production
because I suppose they didn't 

444
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,280
think they could sell enough. 
It also would have went head to 

445
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:39,880
head with an Enzo and an MC12. 
Yeah, if you said. 

446
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,920
Obviously they'd have to change 
that car a lot in order for it 

447
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,880
to be, you can see it's a 
concept. 

448
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,560
So to make it a production car, 
they'd have to change it a lot. 

449
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,800
When they changed it, what does 
it turn into? 

450
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,960
You know so, but it's stunning 
though, isn't it, that? 

451
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,640
Maserati front's just there 
forever. 

452
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,400
Isn't it that like little, it 
just looks like a Maserati's? 

453
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,680
Yeah, I, I, I like that it's, 
it's also got Maserati Gran 

454
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,920
Turismo alloys is. 
That what it is that what the 

455
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:05,760
cars are. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

456
00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:08,400
How are Maserati now? 
Not good. 

457
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,360
Not good well. 
Good value for money. 

458
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:18,880
I recently sold a Maserati MC20 
which is the supercar version 

459
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:25,080
sports car version of of what 
they do and it costs £330,000. 

460
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,840
It was one year old and I sold 
it for half price. 

461
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,880
Half price, Yeah, we've 
literally just done a video on, 

462
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,920
on, on and we drove one. 
Yeah, good car. 

463
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:38,080
But half price V6 killer. 
I think that was actually named 

464
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,160
after old boy Stevie Wonder as 
well. 

465
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,200
Why? 
Oh, it's more fish tank than 

466
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,480
bird cage, isn't it? 
Small birds. 

467
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,480
It's a throwback to a famous 
racing car that raced in Le Mond

468
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,800
for Maserati. 
You do like a bit of Le Mond, 

469
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,240
don't you? 
Do you love a bit of Le Mond? 

470
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,200
Yeah, that's just, that's the 
ultimate. 

471
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,920
That's your thing. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

472
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,720
Like back then, if, if you, if 
you raced or won Le Mans, it 

473
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,360
was, it was different to F1, it 
was different to everything 

474
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:09,840
else. 
It was. 

475
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,720
Let's see what you've got best 
versus the best. 

476
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,520
Best. 
Not only you have to have the 

477
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,800
best driver, the best car, you 
have to be the most reliable, 

478
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,680
the most efficient do. 
You remember when the diesel 

479
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,240
won? 
It was. 

480
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,320
Oh yeah, that was that 
Volkswagen. 

481
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,840
Wasn't it a Bentley I? 
Think, oh, it was a Bentley? 

482
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,880
Yes, it was. 
Bentley Diesel. 

483
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,640
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
That was a cool guy. 

484
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,080
Did did it win because it just 
done more miles per gallon? 

485
00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:30,000
Yeah, it didn't stop. 
Yeah. 

486
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,280
It just kept going. 
Or because it that much blacks, 

487
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,400
though no one can see where they
were. 

488
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,840
Going What do you think is going
to happen in the future when 

489
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,440
these cars, these race cars are 
all electric? 

490
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,480
Then they'll have to like, have 
a battery change halfway through

491
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:44,640
the race. 
That's what they were doing. 

492
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,120
That's what that Formula E was. 
Formula E they were. 

493
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:50,080
They don't. 
They don't race for 24 hours. 

494
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,760
No, they don't race for like 
like, it's just. 15 minutes or. 

495
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,840
Flat and they, they literally 
change. 

496
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,120
I think they they did change 
cars or something, but yeah. 

497
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,760
And now they do that extremely 
as well. 

498
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,360
It's like, yeah. 
I'm all for the bird cage. 

499
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:09,040
Did we do a vote on that? 
Oh, did yes, the vote? 

500
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,200
Was 84% of people said yes? 
There, there we go. 

501
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,720
The oh, so that would have been 
a selling Maserati. 

502
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,240
How? 
Much. 

503
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,320
But how much? 
That's got to be million. 

504
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:25,320
Well look when when an Enzo came
out and an MC12 they were 

505
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:30,720
600,000, so that probably would 
have been a touch more wouldn't 

506
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,560
it? 
So you're talking 345 million 

507
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:34,920
now, aren't you? 
Yeah. 

508
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,400
I mean, whoever owns that car 
somewhere that I'm, I'm pretty 

509
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,080
confident that car would be at 
least a couple of million. 

510
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,040
I wonder how many seats it is as
well. 

511
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,080
I would say it's two seats. 
You wouldn't fancy having a 

512
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,960
crush in it though, would you? 
No. 

513
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,920
Just it's all windscreen. 
Now this is a good this is a 

514
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,760
good one. 
The next one, right? 

515
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:59,960
Lamborghini Miura 2006 so the 
Lamborghini mirror concept 

516
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,840
reinventing the supercar, which 
was launched in 1966. 

517
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:13,240
So basically Lambeau could 
reinvent retroversion in 2006 

518
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,880
basically just to like what that
we've seen them do now already 

519
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,520
with the countash. 
Yeah, this concept, 40th 

520
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,680
anniversary of the original, 
that's why they did it. 

521
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:29,440
Hidden beneath was basically and
Mirza Lago 6.2 Liter B12 

522
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:33,840
customers were keen to place 
orders, but Lambo boss Stephen 

523
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,320
Winkleman stopped it and he said
this is good. 

524
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,880
Our company don't look 
backwards, we only look forward.

525
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,040
So why they remade the contest? 
I guess it's because he's not 

526
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:44,560
there. 
I don't know. 

527
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,520
Yeah, he went to, he went to, he
went to Bugatti. 

528
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,680
So he says we know Lambo since 
did the same thing with the 

529
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,440
countach. 
So I'm guessing maybe that was 

530
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,520
after when? 
I have actually physically seen 

531
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,800
this car. 
No way. 

532
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,840
And I've sat inside of it. 
Yeah, I was at the Geneva Motor 

533
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,000
Show and the Lamborghini stand, 
it wasn't displayed at the 

534
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,800
Lamborghini stand. 
It was displayed on the 

535
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,640
Lamborghini stand in like, the, 
like, the private area at the 

536
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,680
back where you have food and, 
like, you get your champagne and

537
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,320
whatever. 
And there was this car and it 

538
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,480
looks absolutely incredible. 
When you say food, what food 

539
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,800
were you eating? 
Not snacks. 

540
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,800
I have no idea a. 
Moose Bouche. 

541
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,440
Little kind of. 
Yeah, a moose Bouche. 

542
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,720
They're never any good though, 
are they? 

543
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,280
Do you ever? 
Feel a pig when you're at these 

544
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,120
places and they come round on 
other trades and you I eat 30 

545
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,320
of. 
Them I stand, I figure out the 

546
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:44,080
rotation of the path, I figure 
out where the in and out is and 

547
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,560
which way. 
And yeah, like literally just 

548
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,000
standing in the way our 
Christmas do is horrendous, 

549
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,240
isn't it? 
I, I, I, you'll find me by the 

550
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,400
kitchen. 
Do they expect you to take one? 

551
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,960
Because no, they must. 
No. 

552
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,240
Bang Bang, wait there before you
go take another two. 

553
00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,880
I've had four. 
But I go, do you want? 

554
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,600
I go, do you want Jane? 
Jane will go. 

555
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,960
When you've messed up, you go. 
No, I'm all right, thank you. 

556
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,680
And she just gets the. 
I get the star. 

557
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,520
Yeah. 
Why did you say no? 

558
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,600
Why did you and? 
I didn't want to hold yours 

559
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,760
while you're eating the other 
three that you've got in your 

560
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,240
hands. 
Yeah, I like, I like them a lot.

561
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:20,600
That car from beautiful from 
experience, actually seeing the 

562
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,040
car is absolutely insane. 
Yeah, lovely isn't. 

563
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,280
It love that guy and the fact 
it's got a Marshall Lago engine 

564
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,400
in it as well yeah is just even 
better. 

565
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,080
It's weird than it like that, 
that one man has the power to 

566
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,120
just go, no, we don't look back,
we only look forward. 

567
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,800
This is a brave statement, but. 
Well, yeah, I I get it as well 

568
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,320
because, you know, you're trying
to. 

569
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,880
You're trying to. 
It's like you're 1 trick pony. 

570
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,120
Yeah, You know, we can't. 
We can't make anything better 

571
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,160
than this, or we're just making 
it. 

572
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,840
Just keep going the same way. 
But they've obviously been a bit

573
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,280
of a hypocrite over the years, 
haven't they? 

574
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,080
Yes, they've, they've, they've, 
they've redone it. 

575
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,520
Redone it since yeah. 
Off topic a minute. 

576
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,040
Ben Sherman wants to know why 
I'm so close to Tom. 

577
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,840
Who's Tom? 
I've no idea. 

578
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:07,840
Do you get called Tom? 
Very. 

579
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,040
Often I get called all sorts of 
things, mostly four letter words

580
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,840
in three. 
Tommy. 

581
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,120
Yeah, if you want to say that 
Tommy with AC, shall we? 

582
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,760
Do some news, Reece. 
Reece, are we going to do some 

583
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:29,880
news? 
Welcome to this week's news. 

584
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,840
Right Mots are going to rise in 
price. 

585
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,000
They're currently fixed at 
£54.80. 

586
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,120
Five that's been a long time 
since they've been the same 

587
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:47,360
price. 
I'm sure I thought they. 

588
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,640
Were £40. 
A lot of people, that's a 

589
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,800
maximum price. 
Yeah, I I get mots for less 

590
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,720
than. 
Yeah, I think, I think the going

591
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,360
rate is about 3540I. 
Think it's cheap though, don't 

592
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:58,600
you? 
For. 

593
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,120
What it is? 
But you know, why don't you? 

594
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,160
Because they want the work, 
don't they? 

595
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,160
So they're they do a loss 
leader, but. 

596
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,720
Think about it right, everyone 
got together and said right, 

597
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,480
everyone who's got a car over 
three years old, they need an 

598
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,480
MOT if you have to have one. 
So you pay thousands for 

599
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,480
insurance, you pay thousands for
your car and your your MOT is 

600
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,560
£50 and without that you can't 
get on the road. 

601
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,360
I'd charge 5 grand. 
Yeah, because you've got no 

602
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,680
choice. 
OK, if you don't want to pay it,

603
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:34,360
we'll go. 
Simple, £50 is too cheap and if 

604
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,080
I was responsible for MOTS we'd 
all be very, very, very, very, 

605
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,320
very wealthy. 
But there you go. 

606
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,240
So if Carl just become mayor, 
you'll know who not. 

607
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,560
To I won't tax you, I'll just 
put your MOT prices up. 

608
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,200
So that's the only thing you'll 
get charged. 

609
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,800
The only thing you'll get 
charged is is is. 

610
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,640
So no tax, no money gains, 
nothing, nothing. 

611
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,520
Just the MOT. 
Just the mots. 

612
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,920
Moving on, Uber and now also 
Waymo are bringing driverless 

613
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,800
taxis to London in 2026 have. 
You ever been anyone? 

614
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,480
Have you been in the drive? 
No, it'd freaked me out. 

615
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:09,840
It'd. 
Freaked me out as well. 

616
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,960
What about if you you took some 
kind of panic attack that you 

617
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,160
wanted to get out? 
You could actually take control 

618
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,280
if you wanted to. 
Do you know it's? 

619
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,280
Not going to happen in London. 
Someone in London is going to 

620
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,880
end up stealing the the no 
person taxi. 

621
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,160
You get a free lift, don't you? 
Really. 

622
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,160
I suppose you will just get in 
there. 

623
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,080
Yes, I'm not getting out it's. 
Going to stop you getting in the

624
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,200
front. 
Nobody sat there. 

625
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,320
Hello. 
I said please stop making all 

626
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,080
the noise. 
Right colouring. 

627
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,280
Also loads of equally boring 
electric cars. 

628
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:47,200
Sorry, there's loads of electric
cars that are equally important.

629
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,880
The news, When I look on the 
news, it's just electric cars. 

630
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:59,040
So BMWA new XIX 3 is going to 
have a 500 mile range different 

631
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,920
to the 2010 mark you've written 
this different to the 2010 

632
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,760
Nissan Leaf which didn't even do
100. 

633
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,880
But we did. 
Is the Nissan Leaf. 

634
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,400
The first like one of the first 
electric cars. 

635
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:13,840
Oh, I thought the first 
electric. 

636
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,120
Cars, I'm sure cars have. 
I'm sure cars have loads of 

637
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,080
them. 
I am not getting involved in 

638
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,639
this convict. 
There is absolutely no interest 

639
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:26,000
in in me talking about. 
I saw you were on a podcast 

640
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,199
recently and you said that you'd
never sell a Tesla. 

641
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,440
No, they're banned. 
Would you buy? 

642
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,000
One now. 
I'd buy a Cybertruck if anyone 

643
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,360
knows the one. 
Hilarious. 

644
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,199
My son's I just need to buy my 
son a Cybertruck. 

645
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,800
Christian. 
Yeah, he really, I mean, he's 

646
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,040
infatuated with cyber and he he 
actually, he actually explains 

647
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,239
himself. 
I look, Dad, and no, we don't 

648
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,760
like Teslas, but this is a 
Cybertruck. 

649
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,400
It's not a Tesla, it's a 
Cybertruck. 

650
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,600
That would be some Christmas 
present. 

651
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:05,240
So I'm like OK so I tried to buy
Yannis until I found out that 

652
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,440
they're pretty impossible to get
them UK registered. 

653
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,440
You can't, yeah. 
I just think it'd be so cool. 

654
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,720
Like it is a cool. 
It's so awfully ugly. 

655
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,080
It's that's. 
Cool. 

656
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:18,200
Is it good? 
Yeah. 

657
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,800
Right. 
What have we been up to? 

658
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,960
Right quickly before we move on 
what we've been up to. 

659
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,200
You were racing last weekend. 
Yeah, we should. 

660
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:34,120
The weather, I was doing a 116 
BMW race, endurance race, great,

661
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:36,960
like met these people, fantastic
group of people, the guys who 

662
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,520
run it and a lad who was racing 
called Ollie Kelly invited me to

663
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,120
do this endurance race, 90 
minutes on Saturday, Donnington.

664
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,560
We got up at half six to get 
there. 

665
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,720
The fog never lifted, didn't do 
the race. 

666
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,920
No way. 
Gutted and it's it built this 

667
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,640
car at home. 
Was it? 

668
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,760
Was it that bad? 
The Fog. 

669
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,680
It was, it was terrible, really.
It was it it, it didn't do you 

670
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,240
know, like when you go, oh, they
could have run it. 

671
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:03,360
They definitely couldn't have 
run it. 

672
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,040
But it was bad. 
And we thought the second we 

673
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,680
leave it's going to be glorious 
sunshine and it wasn't. 

674
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,680
I'm glad it's probably better 
than it wasn't. 

675
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:11,960
Yeah, 'cause I'd have been 
gutted, Yeah, yeah. 

676
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,640
But we waited till 1:00, 
something like that. 

677
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,720
Yeah, a bit of a shame, but 
that's another. 

678
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:17,680
Day. 
There's always another time. 

679
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,640
And then I've been testing 
yesterday. 

680
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,200
Do you know what race those 
focuses last year race those 

681
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,840
focuses, they do a petrol 
version now in an St. which I 

682
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,000
had to go in yesterday, which 
was, which was a lot of fun. 

683
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:31,920
A lot, a lot of fun. 
That was good. 

684
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,680
That's all we've been up to. 
But what are we up to? 

685
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,360
Monday getting all glammed upon 
Monday Where you going? 

686
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,600
We are going to the Pride of 
Britain awards. 

687
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,760
OK. 
In London. 

688
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,880
Grosvenor Hotel. 
Yeah, nice. 

689
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,040
Been there. 
So red carpet you. 

690
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,440
Got your tuxedo sorted? 
It's actually not black tie. 

691
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,760
Thankfully he has got one. 
No lounge suit. 

692
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,160
We've got a bit of a problem 
with the footwear. 

693
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,640
No, we haven't. 
I I know Carl's going to like 

694
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,640
them. 
That's why I'm I'm sort of 

695
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,640
treading a little bit careful. 
You need to. 

696
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:15,320
Loafers. 
Loafers with socks can't wear 

697
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,120
loafers with socks, mate. 
I was. 

698
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,440
I can't go sockless. 
I've had a fight, I've had a 

699
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,440
battle on my hands. 
If it's not trainers, trying to 

700
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,960
get a pair of shoes on him is 
like mad, but I've managed to 

701
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,000
get him in a pair of. 
Loafers, it's just not It's not 

702
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,080
right for a man. 
You just eat. 

703
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,040
It's not right for a. 
Man, no, I it's not right. 

704
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,360
I don't think loafers. 
I think loafers were shorts. 

705
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,160
I I don't think. 
I bet you're a loafer man 

706
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,160
though, aren't you? 
I'm loaf. 

707
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,720
I could be loafers with shorts. 
But a loaf is a nice smart 

708
00:37:45,720 --> 00:37:47,440
shirt. 
It is, and they're comfortable. 

709
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:48,720
But on. 
The red socks. 

710
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:50,360
You can't wear loaf on a red 
carpet with socks. 

711
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,120
We're going to get packed like 
everyone has to have the photo 

712
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,400
take. 
I'm going to ask AF to to zoom 

713
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,080
in. 
I'll have to say, don't put me 

714
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,800
feet in, Don't put me feet in. 
You've not got a nice pair of 

715
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,680
dress shoes like just just to, I
mean just to get through the 

716
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,320
night in. 
No. 

717
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,160
I got training. 
He's got his wedding shoes. 

718
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,120
No, listen, I am in control. 
That's bad form, Mark. 

719
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,280
And he looks nice. 
I'm not happy about. 

720
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,960
The loafers suit, even if he 
wore socks. 

721
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,160
Can we have a pole, Reese? 
Yeah, Reese. 

722
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,600
We need a pole, mate. 
Loafers. 

723
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,440
Or no. 
Sir, loafers with or without 

724
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,680
socks, with a suit. 
I'm hoping a lot of our audience

725
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,080
don't even know what a loafer 
is. 

726
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:33,800
Google it, LOAFBR. 
Yes. 

727
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,120
Right, the poll is up, everyone.
Vote on the poll. 

728
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,920
OK, I've got some news which 
you're going to be involved with

729
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:44,640
as well, hopefully. 
So, you know, I occasionally do 

730
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,720
a podcast with Rob Moore from 
Disruptors. 

731
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,480
You've obviously been on Rob's 
show as well. 

732
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,040
Yeah, I like Rob Star. 
Nice guy, isn't he? 

733
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:57,680
Yeah, we have collaborated 
together and we are starting our

734
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,280
own podcast called Cars and 
Money. 

735
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,640
Nice. 
What we do is we handpick some 

736
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,360
top tier car collectors from 
around the world, you being one 

737
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,120
of them. 
Also, we filmed a couple of 

738
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:17,360
episodes, won't be launched 
until January, but we talk about

739
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,800
how someone earned their money, 
what their obsession with cars 

740
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,320
is, how it started, where the 
journey's taking them and just 

741
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,640
and just talk, just talk about 
cars. 

742
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,400
Basically you have to talk about
guests yet or. 

743
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,480
No, not yet, not yet. 
But there's some very, very, 

744
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,080
very, very high profile people 
on the show. 

745
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,760
We are making a trip out to 
Dubai next month to do some 

746
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,080
filming. 
Might have to go to the US to do

747
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,360
some filming. 
Love it. 

748
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,040
Saudi Arabia to do some. 
Filming and this is going to be 

749
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,440
classed as work, obviously, of 
course. 

750
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:55,520
It's work and obviously you'll 
be featured. 

751
00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:00,240
In Dubai. 
What in overseal, which is at 

752
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:01,520
the showroom? 
In in Tamworth. 

753
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,360
So I'm going to Tamworth. 
Yeah, yeah. 

754
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,200
Brilliant, yeah. 
I mean, you know, that's we buy.

755
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,840
New New York, But we're going 
to, yeah. 

756
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,160
But the people that are in 
Dubai, they live in Dubai, 

757
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:12,360
that's why we're going to see 
them. 

758
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,440
Well, maybe we should have a bit
of a switcheroo. 

759
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,240
Well mate you can come with us 
to Dubai if like and we'll film 

760
00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:20,600
yours episode there. 
No, I'm fine. 

761
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,880
Thanks. 
But anyway, watch out. 

762
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,400
At the stair now. 
Brilliant. 

763
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,920
We are I've, I've started to 
post some teasers on Instagram. 

764
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,800
Looked really good. 
We've done a couple of episodes 

765
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,320
already and we are launching it 
in January. 

766
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,560
We're gonna probably film 10 or 
15 episodes before January. 

767
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,000
So when they're launched, we do 
one a week and just see how it 

768
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,040
goes. 
You know, it's it's a bit of 

769
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,800
fun. 
And it's been been fun so far. 

770
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,680
Yeah, it's been, it's, do you 
know, it's nice to sit down with

771
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,680
people because if I don't know 
the person, Rob knows the 

772
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:56,280
person, you know, and it's nice 
to sit down with in a relaxed 

773
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,640
environment, like like, like we 
do together. 

774
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,600
Yeah. 
And just just talk about 

775
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,920
anything, you know, just talk 
about anything and talk about 

776
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,360
cars and good podcasts. 
We could sit and talk about cars

777
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,880
forever, couldn't we really? 
So yeah, yeah, it's, it's easy. 

778
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,360
It's easy listening. 
Yeah, no, look forward to it. 

779
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,560
Loafers are taking over the 
chat, unfortunately. 

780
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,400
What they're saying? 
What's the poll saying, Reese? 

781
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:21,160
So the poll says 64% of people 
said. 64%. 

782
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:22,680
No, there. 
Thank you. 

783
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,680
Thank. 
You very much no socks. 

784
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,800
No socks. 
I'm gonna look like a right 

785
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,560
knobhead, you know? 
Oh yeah, look terrible, right? 

786
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,560
Bugatti 16 CA Bugatti, which 
never made production. 

787
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:47,000
Can we have it on, please? 
16 A Bugatti 16C Galiba 2009 

788
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:52,320
There she is. 
That, for me, is the world's 

789
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:57,200
ultimate car right there. 
What, that's it, unfinished? 

790
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,920
It's a Bugatti. 
You've lost your mind that 

791
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:01,800
looks. 
Very, very, very comfortable. 

792
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:07,080
You can fit at least four people
in that car and it it would have

793
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,920
an it will have a Bugatti Veyron
engine. 

794
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,040
In this is where this Cullinan 
things come from. 

795
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,840
Yeah, the Cullinan's ruin me. 
It's ruined me. 

796
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,360
You have changed. 
I would rather have that than a 

797
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,880
sheer. 
On I remember the old car. 

798
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:26,360
That is, that's amazing, Tom, 
That's amazing. 

799
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,120
Don't know why. 
The only reason they wouldn't 

800
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,400
have built that is because 
they'd have wanted to charge two

801
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,560
and a half million in 2009 for 
an SUV and it wouldn't happen. 

802
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:41,280
Well interestingly every car 
produced since 1998 has been mid

803
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,560
engined but this would have not 
been the case, it would be 

804
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,800
prevented with it. 
So that's why the big reason why

805
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:55,120
it didn't game because they were
the at the W 16 Viron Engine 2 

806
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,920
superchargers. 
It was a near miss. 

807
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,000
Apparently they planned for 
production, but it got banded in

808
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:08,200
19 in 2016 when the company boss
Wolfgang reconsidered the idea. 

809
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,840
I think Bugatti will explore 
that idea. 

810
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,880
But it still might happen. 
There you go. 

811
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,160
Please, Wolfgang, if you're 
listening, Wolf, your. 

812
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,720
Finger out. 
De Haimer. 

813
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,840
It's big and ugly. 
Isn't it horrendous? 

814
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:20,640
It's. 
Beautiful. 

815
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,560
What are you talking about? 
I see. 

816
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,720
I see ChatGPT has made a Bugatti
before. 

817
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:32,120
We're in the front of that with 
it being so I do I. 

818
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,360
Can't I do? 
How do you not realize that this

819
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,040
is possibly the best car that 
will ever be made in the history

820
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,520
of the world? 
Honestly, if you said here is a 

821
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:48,720
Bentley Continental Sea and here
is a Bugatti Veyron, ChatGPT 

822
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,480
make me a car. 
That's what you'd. 

823
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,480
Get. 
That's what you'd get. 

824
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:58,800
With a brown interior. 
Can you imagine that doing 253 

825
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,960
miles an hour? 
Like that with with the lights 

826
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,280
up with. 
Four people in the car. 

827
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,120
The lights on full, yeah. 
Lights on full beam. 

828
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,360
Do you know what I mean? 
Full beam everywhere, like 

829
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:14,680
during the day don't care. 
And I mean even the even the 

830
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,160
spec of this one, the the 
Chrome, the wheel, it's 

831
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:22,920
absolutely amazing. 
Chad saying it's hideous fan 

832
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,760
mirror rear and needs different 
lights. 

833
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,880
What you're talking about, Carl,
is hideous. 

834
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,520
Let's see how how how much Carl 
is in touch with reality now. 

835
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,200
65% of people. 
Said no. 

836
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,200
Said. 
Yes. 

837
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,240
There you go, I've not been 
wrong yet. 

838
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,600
I've not been wrong yet. 
What? 

839
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,400
That's. 
An amazing car, mate. 

840
00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:45,400
If they make it, I'm going to 
buy one. 

841
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,680
I'm going to bring it here and 
I'm going to change your mind. 

842
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,400
There you go. 
Next one is. 

843
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:56,360
His new car. 
Yeah, this is a very interesting

844
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:05,840
1A Jaguar CX752000 and 10. 
Apparently this stole the Paris 

845
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,760
show. 
This was the car in 2010. 

846
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,120
I was there do. 
You remember seeing it, was it? 

847
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,600
I do you remember seeing it and 
what the nice people of Jaguar? 

848
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,160
I'd stop myself. 
Then the nice people that Jaguar

849
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,160
should do is take a good look at
that. 

850
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,640
And no, that's how you design A 
car. 

851
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:23,480
That's. 
Not. 

852
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,480
The stupid way it's going at the
minute, that's the proper car. 

853
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,840
It was. 
Needs wrapping black though, 

854
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,920
doesn't it? 
A contemporary You don't. 

855
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,840
Like that colour do you orange? 
Horrible. 

856
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,440
Metallic. 
Orange it was. 

857
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,000
It was going to be a hybrid 
electric power. 

858
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,920
Ruining it now. 
Yeah, gas turbine engines, 

859
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:49,400
extended motors 200 and 200 mile
an hour, 31 mile battery range 

860
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:55,240
developed with F1 Williams to 
take the Jaguar into contention 

861
00:45:55,240 --> 00:45:59,800
with Ferrari and Lamborghini. 
Bad economic climate. 

862
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,960
So that was that must have been 
the previous slump in. 

863
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,280
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Well, it'd be 2008 in the big 

864
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,080
recession. 
So that must and we're actually.

865
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,560
Still in it. 
Now one thing what a couple of 

866
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,480
things I know about this car. 
Number one was it was featured 

867
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,520
in a James Bond movie. 
It was in James Bond Spectra. 

868
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,880
Yep. 
Not that colour though. 

869
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,680
It was driven, Yeah, I think. 
I think it was sweat, yeah. 

870
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,880
Can't ask you, can you? 
Can you ask what colour the not 

871
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,520
on there though? 
Get in your phone. 

872
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:34,080
Also, they made, they did make 
this car, they made five of 

873
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:39,840
these cars that are Rd. legal 
Rd. registered on the road cars.

874
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,920
What? 
Tis Barry P1 though isn't it? 

875
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,440
I just see yours. 
Yeah, the back that back out 

876
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:47,720
the. 
Back. 

877
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:52,320
Yeah, the back arch is AP1. 
Yeah, yeah, 100% yeah, 700 

878
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,320
grand. 
It was going to be yeah, 700 

879
00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:02,480
Grand car type 5 litre 
supercharged V8 engine, right? 

880
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,240
V8 That's awful. 
So have you seen one of these 

881
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:09,120
cars? 
Working well, No, I've seen. 

882
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,560
I've seen one at. 
At the show, so there's five in 

883
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,960
theory, driving or. 
There's there's definitely 5 you

884
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,800
Rd. registered. 
Yeah, yeah, that can be driven 

885
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,280
if if someone wanted to drive 
them. 

886
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,880
Yeah, yeah. 
Now what lets this car down for 

887
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,200
me is the fact that they've just
taken the engine. 

888
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,160
They should have made it its own
engine. 

889
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:33,680
Yeah, instead of that. 
Now the last time Jaguar done 

890
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,840
something like this was the XJ 
2/20 which was a massive flop 

891
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,840
when it when it came out. 
Quite famously my dad bought 

892
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:48,000
one, the first one off of Lord 
Lloyd Webber, Andrew Lloyd 

893
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:53,600
Webber and the car was no I'm 
lying, he bought it from Elton 

894
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:58,520
John and he sold it to Lord 
Lloyd Webber and the car was 

895
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:03,560
£400,000 give or take. 
Like I think it was like 401,000

896
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:04,760
lbs. 
That was the that was the cost 

897
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:10,840
of the car and it was famously 
bought the same day for half 

898
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,160
price by me dad. 
Would you know a similar story? 

899
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,480
I know that the deposit for 
those cars were £80,000, OK, so 

900
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,080
somebody to have an order of 
that 200 whatever and were made 

901
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:28,200
was £80,000 and people were 
walking away from their deposit,

902
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,800
losing their deposit because it 
was cheaper than taking the hit 

903
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,240
of the delivery of the car. 
Well, Elton John. 

904
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,120
My dad bought Elton John's for 
for for half price the same day 

905
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:45,600
it was delivered. 200 Grand 2. 
100 grand lost in 1994. 

906
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,560
You know, that's a lot of money.
And if I knew, I'd do some sort 

907
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,560
of funny joke compared to an 
Elton John song if I knew what 

908
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,920
they were called. 
I've just got a Candle in the 

909
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,600
wind. 
It's the only one I've got any 

910
00:48:58,600 --> 00:48:59,840
Elton John songs. 
Rocket. 

911
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:03,880
Man ruined it. 
I haven't ruined it. 

912
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,160
Don't go breaking my heart. 2 
Elton John, Yeah. 

913
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,640
Yeah, I like Elton John. 
No, yeah, not a massive Elton 

914
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,200
John music. 
Fan So price on these cars 

915
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:21,960
rumoured to be around £2,000,000
This? 

916
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,960
Yep. 
But to be honest in today's 

917
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,080
market I don't see that being a 
reality. 

918
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,200
But I know there's been a couple
for sale for around the 

919
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,480
£2,000,000. 
Really. 

920
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,640
Yep. 
So this sort of didn't make 

921
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,000
production, but sort of did. 
Well, it kind of did. 

922
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,040
Yeah, so like the the the launch
cars or whatever. 

923
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,480
What's everyone saying? 
Reece I. 

924
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:50,600
Think 90% of people said yes. 
So that's, that's a, that's a 

925
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,040
very positive look for great 
wing mirrors. 

926
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,920
Totally off topic, but Alfie 
Newsham, 16, says legend. 

927
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,640
Legend does it. 
Mark bought the Blackpool Tower 

928
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:09,200
and wrapped it Matt Black. 
So that's a 90. 

929
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,560
So that's a good brow. 
That was a that was a big. 

930
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,000
Big number. 
But The thing is, the question 

931
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,280
we didn't ask is for a poll. 
Would someone pay £700,000 for 

932
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,040
it? 
I don't trust the polls after 

933
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,680
the whole sock and loaf of 
things. 

934
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:23,920
The polls, they're never wrong. 
Me. 

935
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,160
They like the Oracle. 
I think it was. 

936
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,920
Just is what it is. 
You've got to go with the people

937
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,760
right neck I can we skip this 
one? 

938
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,680
Why don't you? 
Oh, you're not going to like it.

939
00:50:35,720 --> 00:50:38,240
Oh yeah. 
I mean, I don't care what that 

940
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:41,240
car would look like. 
Lots of trouble, usually 

941
00:50:41,240 --> 00:50:43,040
serious. 
They. 

942
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:44,920
If they made it, it wouldn't 
work. 

943
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:50,520
I've had a few lotuses I've had 
in a lamb and I've had an Esprit

944
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,000
S4S and I'd love and we saw one 
the other day. 

945
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:59,160
I'd love an Esprit V8 now. 
I can't help you. 

946
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:01,960
He's not allowed to buy any more
cars anyway. 

947
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,080
Well, he's certainly not allowed
to buy that from me. 

948
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,840
I will not be putting my name to
a Lotus. 

949
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,240
So this was obviously unveiled 
in 2010 at the Parish Motor 

950
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:14,480
Show, which obviously got 
shadows like a new. 

951
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,640
Lamborghini Terra Mania or 
whatever. 

952
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,040
Yeah, it's that's got that, 
isn't it? 

953
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:24,520
There is the same day as the 
Jaguar CX-75 plan this freeze 

954
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:31,200
obviously 612 horsepower V8, 
then there's on the move again. 

955
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,280
Sorry everyone. 
A7 speed DSG development was 

956
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:39,200
claimed to be going well after 
Esprit's show debut, but Lotus 

957
00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:45,280
Cash reserves ran out and the 
shock and the man who was all up

958
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:50,520
for it was sat so can't. 
Yeah, so best thing, best thing 

959
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,760
Lotus have done actually. 
So cancel. 

960
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,440
Stop making cars. 
They were. 

961
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,640
They were Norfolk, but no. 
Yeah. 

962
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:03,400
What was that one you had? 
And TTVR was Blackpool, wasn't 

963
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:03,680
it? 
Or. 

964
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,480
Yeah, Blackpool TVR was 
Blackpool Amira. 

965
00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:11,080
Lotus Amira. 
I mean, just learn your lesson 

966
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:15,080
and move on. 
I do like a Lotus, I must admit,

967
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:20,520
but why that I don't know. 
Because it's not even like 

968
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,240
they're at a price point where, 
like Carl, look for the money, 

969
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,080
they do a great job because 
they're expensive. 

970
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:32,400
That Amira, to be fair, it 
looked it looked good and then 

971
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,240
like the quality of it and 
everything was. 

972
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:40,360
The quality Lotus will never 
have a good quality finish. 

973
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:46,520
They'll also never be reliable 
and they, they tend to go to, 

974
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,280
and you're kind of in this gang 
really, they tend to go to a 

975
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,920
cult of people who even if they 
don't like Lotus, they've got to

976
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,080
stand by them because British, 
British, you know what I mean? 

977
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,480
Yeah, it looks like it's nice 
that they're still having a go 

978
00:52:58,520 --> 00:52:59,880
in. 
There, I mean, I'm super shallow

979
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,160
because I like the way a 
Lamborghini Hurricane looks. 

980
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,960
I think a Lamborghini Hurricane 
looks really nice. 

981
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,960
That looks exactly like a 
Lamborghini Hurricane from every

982
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,600
single angle. 
But because it has a Lotus 

983
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:14,880
badge, I think it's disgusting. 
There you go, There we go. 

984
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:18,320
That's where we're at now. 
It's yeah, I don't know, like 

985
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:19,520
that. 
That actually probably would 

986
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:23,600
have done well for Lotus. 
Because they do a lot of really 

987
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,120
good track cars like the Elise 
and stuff like that. 

988
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,000
If you're going on a track day, 
some of those cars are like 

989
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,680
they're meant for that. 
So they're just, they just keep 

990
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,360
going and they're a good car. 
But yeah, I don't know. 

991
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,600
I saw where where we where we 
saw that Lotus Esprit the 

992
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:39,600
weekend. 
We were somewhere at the 

993
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,120
weekend. 
Do you fit in the Lotus? 

994
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,920
We're at Donington. 
Do you do you fit in them OK? 

995
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,080
Quite tall. 
Yeah. 

996
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,200
I can't. 
Remember what it was like? 

997
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:48,160
It's been a long. 
Time. 

998
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,400
I mean you, you'd struggle, I 
think because they are tiny. 

999
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,680
Yeah, the Malaysians are so 
small. 

1000
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,360
They're tight. 
They're they're, it's the 

1001
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,480
footwear thing to step across as
well. 

1002
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,920
Yeah. 
But that I just remember that 

1003
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,440
that Esprit in its day was just 
like it was. 

1004
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:07,600
But I suppose it was almost like
a, a poor man's Lambo. 

1005
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,760
It was, you know, it was like an
amazing car, but you don't have 

1006
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,000
the Lambo if you had the money. 
But it wasn't like it was a cool

1007
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,360
car. 
I didn't a yellow one. 

1008
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,280
Very, very cool. 
What did everyone think to Lotus

1009
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,520
Esprit Reese? 
5050. 

1010
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,160
Yeah, I wouldn't have. 
You wouldn't have gone for one 

1011
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,480
of them. 
No, no. 

1012
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:30,800
Right. 
Next, it's a bit meh. 

1013
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:36,760
It's a bit 6/7. 
Bit 6-7. 

1014
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:42,480
Love it, right? 
Lamborghini Asterion. 

1015
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:47,600
This was only 10 years ago. 
I've never heard of that car 

1016
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,000
before. 
Interesting it. 

1017
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,480
It is interesting is. 
It A4 seater, yeah. 

1018
00:54:54,360 --> 00:55:00,440
Is it a four seater? 
So this was the basically this 

1019
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,480
was the what a Urus was going to
be. 

1020
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:07,080
So this was the the Urus. 
This got scrapped and the Urus 

1021
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:12,200
came into the chat. 
So carbon fibre monocoque from 

1022
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:17,800
the Aventador 5.2 litre V10 
Hurricane engine with free 

1023
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,920
electric motors. 
This was this was the the 

1024
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,680
company's future. 
This was going to be it until it

1025
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,480
went to the SUV, the the Urus 
and obviously that now has 

1026
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,720
become their most do you know 
the the Uruses? 

1027
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:37,160
They've sold more Uruses than 
all the other cars ever put 

1028
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,000
together. 
Really, everything. 

1029
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,800
Everything ever, All the cars 
together. 

1030
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,440
So Lamborghini are actually an 
SUV brand, Yes. 

1031
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,120
And on the side they make the 
odd super car it's. 

1032
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,800
Very much the top shape of the 
Eurosonic. 

1033
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,480
Side yeah, it's just like it's 
it reminds me of do you 

1034
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:56,880
remember? 
I remember seeing that first 

1035
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,600
time I saw Porsche Panamera me 
and Darbra in Italy and sort of 

1036
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,920
like they took a a lovely 
looking Porsche and just made 

1037
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,560
this. 
But can you remember when they 

1038
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,560
they remember the first 
generation Cayenne that came 

1039
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:15,640
out? 
It was the ugliest thing that's 

1040
00:56:15,720 --> 00:56:18,400
ever been made. 
I mean, go back to that square 

1041
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,080
where Justin Martin, it had 
nothing on an early Cayenne. 

1042
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:26,720
They were awful, terrible. 
And the Panamera sort of came on

1043
00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:28,560
from that. 
You just couldn't get it right. 

1044
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:33,640
It's just a, it's an awkward 
size for a sports car. 

1045
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:34,720
They want to try to make it a 
sports. 

1046
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:35,320
Car. 
So there's that. 

1047
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:36,920
This and it the same thing 
again. 

1048
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,200
It fits in SUV because it's a 
big car, it's high, you can get 

1049
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,520
away with it. 
That Panamera was just like a 

1050
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:48,160
stretched elongated 9/11. 
No, it didn't work. 

1051
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,520
It was like a 9/11 with a bit in
the middle. 

1052
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:51,320
Wouldn't. 
It it didn't. 

1053
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,800
Work. 
But see that Persangue or 

1054
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,080
whatever, it's got the same sort
of thing going on as this, 

1055
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,960
doesn't it? 
Sort of like this big long. 

1056
00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:02,480
But because it's raised, you get
away with it. 

1057
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,520
Yeah, because it's, I know they 
don't say it's an SUV and they 

1058
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,880
refuse to say it's an SUV. 
But it you know, we know it is 

1059
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,720
an SUV because it's higher up 
and it's raised. 

1060
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,360
It don't look as long. 
No, because it's in proportion. 

1061
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:15,840
Yeah, proportion. 
See what you mean? 

1062
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,960
But that just looks like. 
I I don't know what I think of 

1063
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,240
this really. 
It's interesting because you see

1064
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,600
it's got the back end of a like 
it's got the back end of a 

1065
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:25,840
lumber, that's for certain. 
The there's a. 

1066
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:30,480
Hurricane at the back. 
Yeah, the front looks a bit 

1067
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,440
weird. 
Front. 

1068
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,840
I mean, yeah, but now I'm I'm, 
I'm probably going to give this 

1069
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,800
one a miss. 
But although I think because the

1070
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,320
engine it's got it would be a 
great car, I don't like the 

1071
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,040
looks of it and I can see why 
they didn't make it. 

1072
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,160
Now this is going to Jane. 
Yes. 

1073
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,200
Is that one which would be 
allowed on the drive now? 

1074
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,960
No. 
OK, straight in. 

1075
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,280
Is there anything we're allowed?
No. 

1076
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,800
OK, Reece, what's the chat 
saying on that? 

1077
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,280
I may have put Lotus instead of 
Lambo. 

1078
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:02,560
Brilliant. 
Well done. 

1079
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:06,480
But it's 51% said yes, but 
that's not the Lotus or Lambo. 

1080
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:15,000
Absolutely superb. 
How's that out of your out of 

1081
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,800
all of these? 
Oh, that's a question. 

1082
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,720
Which one are you taking, Jag? 
The Jag, Yeah. 

1083
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:26,320
Mark. 
Volkswagen. 

1084
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:31,240
For me, I'm torn between the 
Volkswagen and the Bugatti, but 

1085
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,160
I'm going to go Bugatti. 
Greatest car ever made. 

1086
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,200
Interesting. 
Interesting. 

1087
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,040
Can you imagine having an SUV 
Veyron? 

1088
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,600
Unbelievable. 
See all of you won't be able. 

1089
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,160
To drive it because it would 
just cost too much. 

1090
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,040
But you bought you. 
You've accepted that when you 

1091
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,080
bought it, so you know you can't
complain. 

1092
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:53,840
See, say, a Bugatti. 
Now how many have lost money? 

1093
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,040
None. 
Literally. 

1094
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:03,280
Yeah, none. 
How does that it's not a Bugatti

1095
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,400
in the world that is worth less 
than it cost? 

1096
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,760
But then that's just mind 
blowing, isn't it? 

1097
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,280
What a business model. 
It's fantastic. 

1098
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:17,240
Well, technically they've, 
they've lost a lot of money on 

1099
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,520
research and development and 
manufacturing costs. 

1100
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,960
They've like lost a fortune, but
I think that was just a bit of a

1101
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:28,800
tax break for Volkswagen. 
But from retail price to today's

1102
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,400
price, they're all worth more 
so. 

1103
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:36,160
If you basically managed to get 
in with Bugatti, you're making 

1104
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,160
money basically. 
Well, you've got to ride the 

1105
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,440
wave because they weren't always
like that. 

1106
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,400
So they're going to go down. 
So they were on halved. 

1107
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,200
Did it really? 
Yeah, yeah, halved. 

1108
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:50,320
So what was it 5? 
555 hundred 550 was the lowest 

1109
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,320
they ever were. 
And did you know they were going

1110
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,160
to get back up or? 
Well, when I bought 1, I bought 

1111
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:56,600
one for 650. 
Did you? 

1112
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,920
Yeah. 
And yeah. 

1113
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,800
And of course I knew and that's 
why I bought it and enjoyed it 

1114
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:04,760
and. 
But these Cherons, they don't go

1115
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,560
down anymore, do they? 
But they did go down. 

1116
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:07,720
But they did. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1117
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,680
So you know a Cheron hit. 
I remember. 

1118
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:14,160
High high ones and they cost mid
twos. 

1119
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,200
Well, we we went to where? 
Where did we go? 

1120
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,600
We got taken by Chris and it 
didn't we to to a show and there

1121
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:26,160
was a guy on there and he, he 
ordered a Bugatti. 

1122
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,480
Yeah, Geneva, he bought he he 
ordered the guy on on our plane 

1123
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,520
ordered a Bugatti Chiron on that
day. 

1124
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:33,160
The. 
Dentist. 

1125
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,480
Is that who it was? 
Yeah. 

1126
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,400
And he, he, he put. 
Was that his gangster name? 

1127
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,400
Like his street name? 
He was two point the. 

1128
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:47,760
Dentist £2.4 million, yeah. 
And on that day at the car show 

1129
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,720
he put a deposit down for 
£400,000. 

1130
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,920
And they'd have kept that 
deposit for probably two or 

1131
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,560
three years. 
Would it be years and years and 

1132
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:55,160
years? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1133
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,800
So. 
It's not just the 400 you put 

1134
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:00,960
down, it's you know how much 
that 400 could have made you or 

1135
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,920
earned you or or even 
appreciated in something else in

1136
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,320
the three years. 
And then it like then he might 

1137
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,040
have lost £1,000,000 if he'd 
sold it straight. 

1138
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,840
Away and then he obviously if he
sold it straight away, he 

1139
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,840
wouldn't have lost a million, 
he'd have lost half a million, 

1140
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,840
but now he'd probably make half 
a million. 

1141
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,040
But it's still not worth it, is 
it? 

1142
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:20,960
Yeah. 
It is worth it. 

1143
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,880
Yeah, they are unreal. 
I mean the camera. 

1144
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:24,880
Do you know what we're going to 
do? 

1145
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,400
This is what we're going to do. 
Me and you. 

1146
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:31,680
We're going to make a we're. 
Going to make another video at 

1147
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,280
mine and you'll. 
Have you ever driven a Veyron? 

1148
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,400
No. 
OK, You're coming to drive. 

1149
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:38,720
You're coming to drive my 
Veyron. 

1150
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,760
I have two of them. 
We could, we could race. 

1151
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,360
This would be a big problem for 
me. 

1152
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,920
It will be a big problem for. 
You, you will never, you will 

1153
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,040
never talk about Bugatti the 
same again. 

1154
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,080
No, we will you. 
Will go back. 

1155
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,040
You'll go back back home and 
you'll go. 

1156
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,360
Jane, give me a picture of that 
Bugatti SUV in a minute. 

1157
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:00,480
Let me go. 
I think you'll get bored. 

1158
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,400
You know what? 
I get it now. 

1159
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:06,120
Honestly, when we went hypercar 
shopping and we came to see you,

1160
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:11,960
we went to see that Bugatti 
Veyron and we'd seen the Porsche

1161
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,440
918 at that time. 
I'd seen the P1. 

1162
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,840
We went round the corner and 
that Bugatti was there and it 

1163
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,440
was like, it was like a 
literally a different world. 

1164
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:26,120
Like it was just, everything 
about that car was just like, 

1165
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,960
it's a different level even to 
the P1. 

1166
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:29,400
It was. 
Oh. 

1167
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,880
Yeah, no, 100% it. 
Is everything about it, the 

1168
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,760
stature, how it looked, it 
sounded, just everything about. 

1169
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,280
And the only reason which it was
could never be in consideration 

1170
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:43,800
is because I understand as as we
all do here, how hard it is to 

1171
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,800
earn £10,000. 
And it just seems like it's like

1172
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,800
burning money to, to run that 
car. 

1173
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,600
If it wasn't for that, then it 
would have been very, very if. 

1174
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,480
If I'm honest, I'd rather what 
we said in the video, I'd rather

1175
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:01,120
have had a sheer A Veyron than 
AP. 

1176
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:05,800
One I think. 
I think a Veyron or Sheeran is a

1177
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:09,960
step above what we, what we call
a hypercar. 

1178
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:14,280
Yeah, so, so like a LaFerrari is
one of my favorite cars of all 

1179
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,480
time. 
Like it's, it's it's I, I'm 

1180
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:17,880
absolutely in love with a 
LaFerrari. 

1181
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,680
But I don't think LaFerrari is 
on the same level as, as a car, 

1182
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,400
as a as a Chiron is. 
I think a Chiron is is a 

1183
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,360
different level. 
It was when we were talking to 

1184
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,840
Stevie, he was saying that he 
had a viron cost him. 

1185
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,920
Like I think he said it cost him
125,000. 

1186
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:41,000
It was $150,000 in like 6 months
in problems and then he's had a 

1187
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:41,920
sheer on now. 
Yeah. 

1188
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:46,920
But you know what it's it's 
about, it's all about the 

1189
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,200
history of the car that you're 
buying, a car sold recently 

1190
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,640
which has really pushed the 
prices up or, or certainly 

1191
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,440
pushing the prices up of of of 
Veyrons. 

1192
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:05,440
It was a 700 kilometer Veyron 
that had no UK taxes paid. 

1193
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:10,360
I think it was a Swiss car and 
it had I think 1 service in its 

1194
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:17,360
life, which is not a good thing.
And that car sold for just shy 

1195
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,400
of £2,000,000. 
Because the miles. 

1196
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:25,360
Because of the miles, now it 
doesn't stop there because that 

1197
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:28,760
car had not been maintained. 
I know somebody who was 

1198
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,320
interested in the guy, he had 
the car inspected. 

1199
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:34,080
It needed thick end of 200,000 
lbs spending on the car even 

1200
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:38,160
though it done 700 kilometers. 
But this is where I'm going to 

1201
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:44,360
try and sell you a Veyron there.
It's like you with with with 

1202
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,720
your business. 
You know you what you sell and 

1203
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,920
what it costs to manufacture 
like any business is 2 very 

1204
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:55,120
different things. 
So if you go to Bugatti and you 

1205
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,240
say right, I want you to do all 
this work, I want you to replace

1206
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,520
all these parts. 
We're talking Volkswagen parts. 

1207
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,320
We're talking parts that cost 
what goes on a Volkswagen 

1208
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,680
Transporter. 
They can't charge you 9 grand 

1209
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:12,400
for a, a, a wing mirror motor 
that's from a Transporter. 

1210
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,000
That might only be worth 9 
grand. 

1211
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:18,880
OK, so you just need to know how
to box smart. 

1212
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:23,560
Yeah. 
And I, I can give someone advice

1213
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,760
that they can own a Bugatti 
Veyron. 

1214
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:31,000
They could service it every 
year, which I wouldn't service 

1215
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,680
it every year anyway. 
I'd service it every two years 

1216
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:37,440
because that's how I service 
mine every two years and I think

1217
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:42,400
it could cost you £15,000 a 
year. 

1218
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,000
No, I'm in. 
And that I'm very, very, very 

1219
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,120
confident. 
Very confident that that's the 

1220
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,640
maximum it would cost. 
There's great specialists out 

1221
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,560
there that can service one for 7
1/2 grand. 

1222
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:59,400
Then you got 7 1/2 grand of 
Volkswagen parts that need 

1223
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:00,920
replacing. 
Well, that's a lot of parts. 

1224
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,120
But what happens when it breaks?
Doesn't break because you're 

1225
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,000
buying it from me, who only 
sells the world's best examples 

1226
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,520
of cars. 
Doesn't break. 

1227
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,920
Not even you could break it. 
They are like a tank mate. 

1228
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,640
They they're indestructible. 
Please come down when you do the

1229
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,040
podcast next week. 
We'll do another video when 

1230
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,920
you're driving the Veyron. 
See the Veyron to me is a hyper 

1231
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:24,080
car. 
When you say hyper car, that was

1232
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:31,080
the car like the P1 is utterly 
amazing but to me that Bugatti 

1233
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,600
value on the. 
Bugatti was 10 years before the 

1234
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:34,840
P1. 
It's mad, isn't it? 

1235
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,320
10 years but. 
The trouble is, well, I remember

1236
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:42,320
when there were 600 grand, then 
there were 800. 

1237
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:46,680
What are they now? 
Well, I've got one for 1.5, I've

1238
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:51,000
got one for 1.350 and they're 
only going one way. 

1239
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,520
Because the one that one I saw 
you add beautiful colour. 

1240
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,160
I've got it back that car. 
Yeah. 

1241
01:06:58,160 --> 01:06:59,920
Is it like the silvery? 
Colour silver. 

1242
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:02,600
It's a 2 tone silver and grey. 
I've got an all black one as 

1243
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,600
well. 
And you said that's what 600 did

1244
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,280
you say? 
600 plus a few part exchanges 

1245
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,760
that you've got. 
Right. 

1246
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,960
This is took a turn Reece. 
We're doing another video. 

1247
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:18,160
Let's do it. 
Right. 

1248
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,040
What was filming other than 
that? 

1249
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,640
Right quickly, we are filming. 
What you on this week? 

1250
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:29,720
What you doing? 
Porsche video, which Carl's 

1251
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,000
going to try and help us find a 
car, which we're going to talk 

1252
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,080
to you. 
All right, OK, let me know. 

1253
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:38,040
And the stolen X5 video, which 
we've put on Instagram. 

1254
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:39,600
I'm looking for the owner of 
this X5. 

1255
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,160
It is crazy. 
You know all about it. 

1256
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:46,200
Yeah, I'm just not saying too 
much because knowing me, I'll 

1257
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:47,200
probably. 
Play. 

1258
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,400
So can you, can you give me a 
hint of what's going on? 

1259
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:51,720
No, but I'll tell you in a 
minute, OK? 

1260
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,680
And also another KTM video on 
its way. 

1261
01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:01,280
Yes, they are here right now. 
So KTM Patrick, Patrick is here 

1262
01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,800
right this second. 
He's working. 

1263
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,120
He's probably just finished, 
sort of just saw and they're 

1264
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,160
amazing. 
Like honestly, KTM brand, I 

1265
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,640
don't get anything from them. 
They don't pay me anything like 

1266
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:16,160
that. 
But like I've said, there's a 

1267
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:17,640
couple of things we need to sort
out. 

1268
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,560
I've sent a man over. 
Yes. 

1269
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,560
Good. 
Where's Patrick now then? 

1270
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:24,720
On his own. 
He's in the Premier Inn, yeah. 

1271
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,240
Great hospitality. 
Well, we couldn't bring him 

1272
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:27,920
here, could we? 
Why? 

1273
01:08:28,279 --> 01:08:29,359
Well, look at the noise. 
Which? 

1274
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:32,640
And he doesn't speak English. 
With a name like Patrick, he 

1275
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:34,160
doesn't speak English. 
Does he not speak? 

1276
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,800
English speaks very he didn't 
that that's disrespectful. 

1277
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,359
Patrick French, he speak I only 
speak a couple of words in he's 

1278
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,279
he's Austrian. 
I only speak a couple of words 

1279
01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:45,720
in German which I told him. 
The one which you probably know 

1280
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,279
about, which he found very 
funny. 

1281
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:48,840
Only know. 
I know a few. 

1282
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:53,160
Yeah, exactly. 
So that which he found funny, 

1283
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,560
but. 
But Ryan could speak Polish, so 

1284
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,520
Ryan could speak to him. 
You speak Polish, yeah? 

1285
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,439
But that's a different. 
I don't think it works like 

1286
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:01,479
that. 
I don't. 

1287
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,279
Think both. 
I don't think foreign is. 

1288
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:06,200
A language, but it's he's got 
probably got more chance of 

1289
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,040
understanding him than than 
English. 

1290
01:09:08,279 --> 01:09:10,359
I like what you're thinking, but
I don't think there's English 

1291
01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:13,240
and foreign. 
So tomorrow night, then when we 

1292
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:17,160
take him out to dinner, we're 
going to have to have iPad in 

1293
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,000
the middle of the table and 
we'll have to. 

1294
01:09:19,399 --> 01:09:20,880
Just talk for that will. 
Translate. 

1295
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:24,240
Now he he's, he did a lot of 
laughing, but I think he laughs,

1296
01:09:24,279 --> 01:09:25,439
yeah. 
It's like, I don't understand 

1297
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:26,560
that. 
Doesn't understand, but so he 

1298
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:27,920
just laughs. 
Yeah, so he just laughs. 

1299
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,000
You find yourself sometimes when
you talk to people like that, 

1300
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,279
you just say the randomest 
things and then you nod your 

1301
01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:34,880
head and they go like, yeah, 
yeah. 

1302
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:36,240
Yeah, just to check if you 
don't. 

1303
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:37,640
Understand speaking rid of the 
apps then. 

1304
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:44,399
Or like like Patrick? 
Yes, you will, KTM. 

1305
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,960
My dad used to like if you're on
the phone, he'd say I bring you 

1306
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,479
the bars and like he had like he
had his. 

1307
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,520
Slow and loud. 
Didn't matter what language it 

1308
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:58,000
was, he had the same. 
Like in Spanish, everything is 

1309
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,280
L. 
It was Ethan was loud and Ethan 

1310
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:07,360
was slow. 
LL Biero El pixo El Caro. 

1311
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:12,520
La Catia Maro, Right. 
Brilliant. 

1312
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,360
Thank you, everybody. 
Hope you enjoyed that. 

1313
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:17,200
What for? 
It's only a Bugatti. 

1314
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:18,760
We'll be. 
Fine, enjoying next week when 

1315
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,760
there's Bugatti on Mark's drive.
