1 00:00:47,500 --> 00:00:50,300 Something a bit different. Comes your way from history of 2 00:00:50,308 --> 00:00:52,800 Westeros. Today will have one foot in 3 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,100 Martin's world where it always stays while. 4 00:00:55,100 --> 00:00:58,000 The other takes a trip to a galaxy far, far away. 5 00:00:58,900 --> 00:01:03,600 You got to be really flexible to have one foot in a galaxy far, 6 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,500 far away while your other foot is in Westeros. 7 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:07,900 Yeah. And you got to have really long 8 00:01:07,900 --> 00:01:11,300 legs, you do not need to know anything about the Mandalorian 9 00:01:11,300 --> 00:01:13,100 or even Star Wars to follow along. 10 00:01:13,100 --> 00:01:15,500 In this episode, we're talking world-building. 11 00:01:15,500 --> 00:01:18,300 Historical parallels story arc. Parallels, things of that 12 00:01:18,300 --> 00:01:20,000 nature. I will supply you with 13 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,500 everything you need to know on that front. 14 00:01:21,500 --> 00:01:24,700 Well, frequently comparing it to the more familiar features of 15 00:01:24,700 --> 00:01:26,700 Planet Tous. It's kind of funny. 16 00:01:26,700 --> 00:01:29,400 We're talking Star Wars, but in a way that you have to 17 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,300 understand A Song of Ice and Fire very well. 18 00:01:31,300 --> 00:01:34,500 So in a way, this is like a primer for Star Wars or the 19 00:01:34,508 --> 00:01:39,900 Mandalorian specifically, but it's only for A Song of Ice and 20 00:01:39,900 --> 00:01:42,400 Fire people. Speaking of the Mandalorian in 21 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:44,900 the show itself, there will be pretty light spoilers. 22 00:01:44,900 --> 00:01:47,100 We're not getting that deep into the plot of the show. 23 00:01:47,300 --> 00:01:50,300 Show so much as we're looking at the setting and the history in 24 00:01:50,300 --> 00:01:54,600 other words were more concerned with backstory than front story. 25 00:01:55,300 --> 00:01:57,800 If you do know the Mandalorian, you might find this one 26 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,100 particularly fun because will be reliving a lot of that history 27 00:02:01,100 --> 00:02:04,300 from a different angle, while highlighting a vast wealth of 28 00:02:04,300 --> 00:02:07,100 comparisons to the Blackfriars primarily as the title 29 00:02:07,100 --> 00:02:08,900 indicates. But it goes beyond the black 30 00:02:08,900 --> 00:02:12,100 fires to include their parent, family, the targaryens and in 31 00:02:12,100 --> 00:02:15,400 turn their nation of origin. The Valyrian Freehold itself 32 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,200 along with a few other connections here. 33 00:02:17,300 --> 00:02:23,000 And there because well, I don't exactly have a lot of other Star 34 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,200 Wars, A Song of Ice and Fire parallel episodes in the in the 35 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:27,400 bank here. None. 36 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,400 In fact. So what we do have I'll want to 37 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,100 lay out here for y'all while we have the chance. 38 00:02:34,100 --> 00:02:36,300 So some other miscellaneous parallels will be included here 39 00:02:36,300 --> 00:02:39,200 as well. So, from George r.r., Martin to 40 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,900 George, Lucas and back again. All that, and more on this 41 00:02:42,900 --> 00:02:48,800 episode of history of Westeros. Hello, and welcome everyone. 42 00:02:49,100 --> 00:02:51,800 A bit different of an episode today, should be a lot of fun 43 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,600 but our setup is different as well. 44 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:59,600 No Sean today no notes from Nina just are just me and a shadow 45 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,000 today, should be fun. But yeah, like I said little bit 46 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,500 different. This episode was not voted on by 47 00:03:04,500 --> 00:03:07,100 patrons. I forced it on everyone. 48 00:03:08,700 --> 00:03:11,400 Voted against it. Yeah. 49 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:12,700 No. Actually they didn't vote 50 00:03:12,700 --> 00:03:14,100 against it. I there was just no opportunity 51 00:03:14,100 --> 00:03:16,700 to all but you can vote on almost every episode. 52 00:03:17,300 --> 00:03:22,300 If you're a patron you can go to www.hsn.com / history of 53 00:03:22,308 --> 00:03:25,400 Westeros to sign up. 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Let's as well. 62 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,600 Start with a trivia question as we. 63 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,300 So often do since this episode has a lot of discussion about 64 00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:58,100 armor and forages and things like that, I thought a question 65 00:03:58,100 --> 00:03:59,500 of that nature, would be appropriate. 66 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,200 So where are the best forges on the iron Islands? 67 00:04:04,500 --> 00:04:07,900 What location on the iron islands has the best forges? 68 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,500 Some would say they're the best forges in all of Westeros. - 69 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,700 those run by say Co Horrocks Miss like table hammad. 70 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,600 So, let's talk about the early history of Mandalore, the planet 71 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,200 where the mandalorians live shocking. 72 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,900 It's Mandalore lure or just Mandalore, but first look, Ash 73 00:04:29,900 --> 00:04:32,900 and I are decked out in our Mandalorian gear. 74 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,500 I've got a Mandalorian shirt that says, this is the way I've 75 00:04:36,500 --> 00:04:39,800 got a mythus or necklace and Amethyst or ring. 76 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,500 It don't normally like to wear Rings during recordings because 77 00:04:42,500 --> 00:04:45,000 you can easily bang it on the microphone and get sounds. 78 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,800 But I thought it was worth the risk today, look at me living. 79 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,300 Seriously, she has decked out to look at that. 80 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,900 Yeah, I've got a bloodraven shot. 81 00:04:52,900 --> 00:04:58,800 First shirt mashup made by Pat Doherty the named Pat Dorothy 82 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,200 might be familiar to you all. We've talked about him before, 83 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,500 he's a friend of the show been. So for a long time and one 84 00:05:05,500 --> 00:05:10,000 anecdote we re accounted to y'all was last year. 85 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,500 He proposed to sand rixie and Ice and Fire con, it was 86 00:05:12,500 --> 00:05:15,200 wonderful and fun and they're having a happy marriage. 87 00:05:15,300 --> 00:05:19,700 By the way, sanrak sein and us are planning a sewed together. 88 00:05:19,700 --> 00:05:22,100 So stay tuned for more info on that when we are ready to 89 00:05:22,100 --> 00:05:25,200 announce it. Yeah, I've also got a mythus or 90 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,500 pin from the Chuck of fan of Maniacs. 91 00:05:28,500 --> 00:05:30,100 Also, a listener. Gave me. 92 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,900 I would move closer to show it to the camera, but I'm very 93 00:05:32,900 --> 00:05:36,300 paranoid about messing up my audio again, so I refused to 94 00:05:36,308 --> 00:05:39,000 move. You'll just have to take my word 95 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,400 for it. Yes, it's a cool pin y'all. 96 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,500 So, not unlike Westeros or perhaps even S 0. 97 00:05:45,500 --> 00:05:49,100 So there were sentient, bipedal species on Mandalore before the 98 00:05:49,100 --> 00:05:52,300 people who eventually became known as the Mandalorian settled 99 00:05:52,300 --> 00:05:54,000 there. In this case, it wasn't 100 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,400 something like the children of the forest but something more 101 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,200 like the Giants. They were called The Alamo. 102 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,300 Heights Alan White's aren't what we call civilized is they don't 103 00:06:01,300 --> 00:06:03,500 build or right? Or Farm or anything like that. 104 00:06:03,500 --> 00:06:06,200 Their tech level is roughly at the level of the Giants. 105 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,700 I mean maybe have a loincloth mixed in here. 106 00:06:08,700 --> 00:06:12,200 There, some rudimentary tools, maybe some burials. 107 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,800 Much else. Well, mites are human sized for 108 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,100 eyes for nostrils and some number of tusks. 109 00:06:19,100 --> 00:06:20,700 They're not friendly to other species. 110 00:06:20,900 --> 00:06:22,700 In fact, they're said to eat humans. 111 00:06:23,700 --> 00:06:26,800 Also, maybe a little bit like what people say about the Giants 112 00:06:27,100 --> 00:06:30,400 that said, though, not all mandalorians are human and human 113 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,700 has a much broader meaning in the Star Wars Universe. 114 00:06:32,700 --> 00:06:35,200 Anyway, a lot of alien species in Star. 115 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,100 Wars are actually former humans that have evolved into something 116 00:06:39,100 --> 00:06:42,200 different after their distant ancestors set. 117 00:06:42,300 --> 00:06:45,900 Hold on some Planet long ago and you know, since then they've 118 00:06:45,900 --> 00:06:50,700 adapted to their survival environment, as is fitting for a 119 00:06:50,707 --> 00:06:53,400 space fantasy setting. Where the distance between 120 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,000 planets is no big deal. There's a lot of diversity here 121 00:06:56,100 --> 00:06:57,600 though. Some of that has developed over 122 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,400 time. And I do say space fantasy 123 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,900 rather than science fiction. I'm obviously a fan of Star Wars 124 00:07:01,900 --> 00:07:04,000 or wouldn't be talking about it but I do think it is more space 125 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,900 fantasy than sci-fi science. And the workings of Technology 126 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,900 aren't really a big part of the stories. 127 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,500 They certainly exist, but it's not Usually not part of the 128 00:07:13,500 --> 00:07:17,500 plot, right? It's more about there are more 129 00:07:17,500 --> 00:07:20,900 magical, sort of Fantastical elements in Star Wars, than, in 130 00:07:20,900 --> 00:07:24,500 most science fiction stories. The approximate given date for 131 00:07:24,500 --> 00:07:28,500 the formation of the Mandalorian civilization is about 10,000 132 00:07:28,500 --> 00:07:30,300 years. Before the formation of the 133 00:07:30,300 --> 00:07:33,000 Galactic Empire under Palpatine which, you know, we see that, 134 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,700 right? At the, beginning of a new hope. 135 00:07:34,700 --> 00:07:39,400 The first Star Wars movie, So 10,000 years, is it familiar 136 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,500 number, right? That's the same length of time 137 00:07:41,500 --> 00:07:45,200 roughly that we believe westerosi civilization is exist, 138 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,300 roughly 10,000 years ago is when the first men started coming 139 00:07:49,300 --> 00:07:52,300 across some would say, it was 8,000 years but whatever the 140 00:07:52,300 --> 00:07:55,500 timeline isn't specific. As it's not meant to be but 141 00:07:55,500 --> 00:07:58,100 we're still dealing with the roughly similar timeframe here. 142 00:07:58,900 --> 00:08:01,400 It didn't take long for the mandalorians to overwhelm the 143 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,100 Alla mites, given their massive Edge and Technology, just like 144 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:10,000 Humanity was able to, To do the same to the Giants and just like 145 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,500 the Giants. They weren't all wiped out. 146 00:08:11,500 --> 00:08:15,900 The owl might still managed to hang on, to the fringes of 147 00:08:15,900 --> 00:08:18,200 civilization. But people thought they were 148 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,200 extinct when people thought they were all wiped out, kind of like 149 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,700 the Giants. Though, it lacked other sentient 150 00:08:24,700 --> 00:08:29,000 species, Mandalore had plenty of other Flora, and Fauna of note, 151 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,000 in particular, was the mythus or the one. 152 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:37,000 We've got iconography on our body of here are huge creature 153 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:42,500 with scales and horns that could reach up to 15 meters. / 50 feet 154 00:08:42,500 --> 00:08:45,100 long. Let's talk about the Memphis or 155 00:08:45,100 --> 00:08:48,200 more specifically. A Mandalorian. 156 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,000 His true name is lost to history. 157 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,200 Ventured into a place. Now called the minds of 158 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,500 Mandalore and defeated. One of these beasts without 159 00:08:56,500 --> 00:09:00,800 slaying it and emerged riding it, he was on its back. 160 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,500 When he finished, he was then for called Mandalore the great, 161 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,900 the first Rider of the mythus or high. 162 00:09:07,900 --> 00:09:10,900 Think you can see where I'm going with this, at some point 163 00:09:10,900 --> 00:09:13,600 in history of valyria. Someone tamed the first dragon 164 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,700 now theories aside about lost knowledge. 165 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,100 Or being taught the mean to do. So by another culture it 166 00:09:20,100 --> 00:09:23,700 probably wasn't like a whole bunch of dudes and dudettes at 167 00:09:23,700 --> 00:09:25,000 once. Riding Dragons there was 168 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,900 probably a first person it may not have been a man but a 169 00:09:28,900 --> 00:09:32,600 first-person same here. There wasn't like a flood of 170 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,100 myths or taming Zahn on Mandalore of a sudden it was a 171 00:09:36,100 --> 00:09:39,700 rare event, probably not unlike it was with Dragons. 172 00:09:39,700 --> 00:09:41,900 It's probably a rare event early on now, of course, the 173 00:09:41,900 --> 00:09:45,000 targaryens used magic and other things or the valyrians rather 174 00:09:45,100 --> 00:09:46,700 and the targaryens use things too. 175 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,300 Bind themselves to dragons and ways the mandalorians never did 176 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,600 but it's still true that they had to tame them afterwards. 177 00:09:55,900 --> 00:10:00,400 Even targaryens of the modern era, had to select a dragon and 178 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,100 bond with it and all that. So even if the Dragons Were 179 00:10:03,100 --> 00:10:07,300 engineered initially as a species, there's still the 180 00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:10,200 process of treating them like a regular animal and doing all the 181 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,200 basic logistical things. It's kind of funny actually that 182 00:10:14,500 --> 00:10:18,200 it's a song of ice and fire that has the Genetic engineering 183 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,600 theories associated with this giant epic creature. 184 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,900 The mythus or is naturally evolved apparently, whereas the 185 00:10:26,900 --> 00:10:28,800 dragons might have been engineered. 186 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,900 It's kind of funny that the space fantasy with all the 187 00:10:31,900 --> 00:10:35,300 technology version has this untouched unmodified Beast. 188 00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:39,500 Whereas, as long of Ice and Fire is the one dealing with sort of 189 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:43,900 scientific genetic modification. But hey, that's, that's just how 190 00:10:43,900 --> 00:10:45,800 it is. And it's not like those things 191 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,400 don't exist in Star Wars. Are elsewhere. 192 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,800 There's lots of cloning and genetic manipulation of people. 193 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:56,300 For example, it seems to be somewhat dinosaur like the 194 00:10:56,300 --> 00:10:59,100 Memphis or which is appropriate for an ancient evolved 195 00:10:59,100 --> 00:11:02,600 megafauna. Yeah, and dragons are pretty 196 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,900 much the same depicted in described that way if the mythus 197 00:11:05,900 --> 00:11:09,600 or were president old valyria, they may have made it breathe 198 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,700 fire. Like they did take the fireworm 199 00:11:11,700 --> 00:11:15,100 jeans and put it into wyverns. If that's indeed what happened, 200 00:11:15,700 --> 00:11:16,700 I don't think they would have bought. 201 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,300 Bother trying to give amethyst or Wings because the wings you 202 00:11:20,300 --> 00:11:23,900 would need to make that thing fly her probably. 203 00:11:23,900 --> 00:11:28,800 All you need is right there. You saying they should splice 204 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,000 the genes of a Red Bull into it. I don't understand where you're 205 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,700 going. Okay. 206 00:11:36,700 --> 00:11:37,900 Okay. Now I see where you're going 207 00:11:37,900 --> 00:11:38,500 with it. Okay. 208 00:11:38,500 --> 00:11:40,400 Yeah. And they do have the horns. 209 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,700 Yeah, okay. MIT thesaurus can apparently 210 00:11:42,700 --> 00:11:46,200 live an absurdly long time. Probably longer than dragons. 211 00:11:46,500 --> 00:11:49,800 Who can at least live you know couple centuries if not more 212 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,900 myth Azores can apparently do a lot longer than that but we 213 00:11:52,900 --> 00:11:57,900 actually adding to the irony here we know more about dragons 214 00:11:58,300 --> 00:12:01,300 than we know about miffasaurous. Despite again it being a more 215 00:12:01,300 --> 00:12:03,600 technologically proficient environment, where you would 216 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,900 expect more history and study it's just it's a story hasn't 217 00:12:05,900 --> 00:12:07,000 taken. There yet. 218 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,800 I suspect future seasons of the Mandalorian and or some of the 219 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,000 other projects around, it might expand on this knowledge, which 220 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,000 is true of A Song of Ice and Fire as well. 221 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,300 We're certainly going to learn more about dragons. 222 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,300 But ever since this crucial founding event, the Sigil of all 223 00:12:24,300 --> 00:12:27,100 the Mandalorian people is the mythus or skull. 224 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,500 This is extremely reminiscent of dragon skulls especially because 225 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:34,100 they're presented it right at the start of A Song of Ice and 226 00:12:34,100 --> 00:12:38,600 Fire, only a few chapters in as physical evidence of a Time long 227 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,500 gone when families with Dragons ruled valyria and then Westeros 228 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,300 Same thing here, this marks another parallel, as we know in 229 00:12:46,300 --> 00:12:49,300 A Song of Ice and Fire, a main part of the story is the return 230 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,300 of the Dragons, the Memphis, or was also thought to be extinct 231 00:12:53,300 --> 00:12:55,900 in the Star Wars universe. But as the story progresses, we 232 00:12:55,900 --> 00:13:00,100 discover there's at least one left and maybe more beyond that. 233 00:13:01,300 --> 00:13:03,800 The return of dragons in the rediscovery of the meant to soar 234 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,000 have huge political implications for their respective stories as 235 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,200 well, because they're such important symbols of legacy of 236 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,600 leadership that were in place for eons, not to mention as 237 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,600 gigantic controllable beasts. They're actually quite helpful 238 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,700 and, you know, taking leadership in the first place through 239 00:13:21,700 --> 00:13:24,500 actual physical force or just intimidation. 240 00:13:24,500 --> 00:13:27,400 You don't necessarily actually need to use the Memphis or the 241 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,100 dragon because people will probably just be like, okay, I 242 00:13:30,100 --> 00:13:30,900 bend the knee. Yeah. 243 00:13:31,100 --> 00:13:36,500 I'm not fighting that. And in both Stories, the return 244 00:13:36,500 --> 00:13:38,600 of these ancient. Again, I love to call the 245 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:44,500 megafauna enables, the return of a house to Royal power. 246 00:13:44,500 --> 00:13:48,400 It enables that reclaiming of what was once lost because it 247 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,200 was that, which enabled them to claim that power in the first 248 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,700 place, and it's well known amongst their people. 249 00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:58,800 That was so, Let's talk about houses and clans within the 250 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:04,600 Mandalorian Universe world just as the dragonlords rose to form 251 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,700 and Lead valyria is most elite houses. 252 00:14:06,700 --> 00:14:09,900 So did the early mandalorians? Who wrote the mythus or rise to 253 00:14:09,900 --> 00:14:13,900 become the leading families of Mandalore like Westeros and many 254 00:14:13,900 --> 00:14:16,700 Earths societies. They have Clans Clan structure 255 00:14:16,700 --> 00:14:21,100 exists a clan or multiple Clans can form a house. 256 00:14:21,500 --> 00:14:25,700 Not quite the same as Westeros but similar for example, Rook 257 00:14:25,700 --> 00:14:29,600 Saxon. The Eldar kreese and vizla are 258 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,900 examples of prominent Mandalorian Clans. 259 00:14:32,100 --> 00:14:35,300 Those are also in some cases, Mandalorian houses vizla and 260 00:14:35,300 --> 00:14:39,700 Crees, for example are also mandatory houses to make the 261 00:14:39,708 --> 00:14:44,200 comparison complete a house in Mandalorian culture would be if 262 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,500 how Stark a clan name, Clan Stark, rather, let's say Clan 263 00:14:47,500 --> 00:14:52,600 Stark forms house Stark and in how Stark is their clothes as 264 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,600 vassals, rather than them being considered separate vassals with 265 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,800 separate names. They're considered part of house 266 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:58,800 Stark. So imagine house. 267 00:14:58,900 --> 00:15:02,400 Sir winner, Kerwin their house Cassell, they would just be part 268 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,600 of house Stark, huh? So cell the cell, right house to 269 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,500 sell and the families that are Qatar cloy lists. 270 00:15:11,300 --> 00:15:15,700 And so that would be as if they would be all under one umbrella, 271 00:15:15,700 --> 00:15:19,000 with one name, where Clan Stark is still the dominant Force 272 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,800 within house star. So it's really you can see why 273 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,900 that's really similar, but Mandalorian culture is a little 274 00:15:24,900 --> 00:15:26,500 bit less about blood relationship family. 275 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,600 Emily doesn't mean quite as much house means more how sometimes 276 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,500 means family, but not always. So there isn't a vassal system, 277 00:15:34,500 --> 00:15:37,100 that's the big. There's no feudalism, although 278 00:15:37,100 --> 00:15:40,800 there are futile titles that remind us of feudalism in 279 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,800 medieval societies, for example, there's Lords and Ladies amongst 280 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:47,200 mandalorians, there's duchesses and countesses and things like 281 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,000 that. Very similar titles. 282 00:15:50,700 --> 00:15:54,100 Also, similar to Westeros in the real world Clans and houses take 283 00:15:54,100 --> 00:15:58,300 on sigils and have banners from time to time. 284 00:15:58,300 --> 00:16:02,500 And he said, Jules very often feature animals, the sigil of 285 00:16:02,500 --> 00:16:05,700 House vizla. For example, uses the shriek 286 00:16:05,700 --> 00:16:11,000 Hawk, which is a predatory bird native to Mandalore Early in the 287 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:16,500 Mandalorian TV showed in jar and the Mandalorian forms Clan mud 288 00:16:16,500 --> 00:16:21,100 horn, named after be rhinoceros like beasts that bears that name 289 00:16:21,100 --> 00:16:23,500 mud Horn. Of course, their sigil is the 290 00:16:23,500 --> 00:16:27,300 mud horn and later didn't yarn swears allegiance to house Kris, 291 00:16:27,300 --> 00:16:30,700 he could say, Clan mud horn, maybe is becomes part of how 292 00:16:30,700 --> 00:16:36,200 screes House cast another example out there uses that's 293 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,600 with a K uses, a coiled vexatious as their sigil, which 294 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,100 is a sand snake of sorts, not a Darkness stand, snake or even a 295 00:16:43,108 --> 00:16:47,100 bastard snake, but an actual snake, like, being that lives in 296 00:16:47,100 --> 00:16:49,800 the sand. We actually saw of Exes in the 297 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:55,200 rise of Skywalker movie, when Ray heels, an angry one deep in 298 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,100 the tunnels. It reminds me again of 299 00:16:57,100 --> 00:16:58,700 fireworms. They keep coming up since they 300 00:16:58,700 --> 00:17:01,800 dig tunnels, deep underground tunnels that are later 301 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,099 repurposed. By humans because they're really 302 00:17:04,099 --> 00:17:06,400 good. Tunnels, the they are secrete 303 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:11,400 like a oil, that solidifies the sand around them as they're 304 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,000 traveling through it. If it wasn't clear by. 305 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,200 Now, mandalorians are very overwhelmingly a warrior 306 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,900 culture. They're not nearly entirely. 307 00:17:20,900 --> 00:17:23,000 I mean, we're talking about an entire planet, so surely not 308 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,099 every single person if follows a warrior code and lives that 309 00:17:27,099 --> 00:17:31,200 life. But It's a lot of them and we're 310 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,200 talking about a huge span of time here again, ten thousand 311 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,600 years of men, learn history. So there's been abs and flows in 312 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,300 that regard, but for the most part, they have been a warrior 313 00:17:40,300 --> 00:17:42,900 culture all that time. Maybe a little more like the 314 00:17:42,900 --> 00:17:48,000 Dothraki than other folks. But nightly westerosi culture is 315 00:17:48,300 --> 00:17:52,000 pretty darn violent, and stubborn and long-lasting. 316 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:57,700 So it fits that fits that really well in addition, just as houses 317 00:17:57,700 --> 00:18:01,900 in Westeros have their ancestral armor and weapons. 318 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,200 So do Mandalorian houses a lot of times when you see a set of 319 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,100 Mandalorian armor, it's been passed down over the generation, 320 00:18:09,100 --> 00:18:11,600 in some cases, hundreds of years, maybe in a few cases, 321 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,700 even longer, which is also the case for Westeros think of the 322 00:18:15,700 --> 00:18:20,900 Royce armor, or any number of Valyrian steel blades because 323 00:18:20,900 --> 00:18:24,700 they're not very creative Mandalore, the great took the 324 00:18:24,708 --> 00:18:31,000 title, Mandalore, there's an apostrophe in there so I'm 325 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,700 saying it, it doesn't sound that different. 326 00:18:32,700 --> 00:18:36,700 It looks different when written. So this was his title which is 327 00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:39,400 kind of like King in A Song of Ice and Fire terms. 328 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:44,100 Mandalore the great is kind of like the gardener kangaroo or 329 00:18:44,100 --> 00:18:45,600 Garth The Gardener calling himself. 330 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,200 A Garth greenhand, calling himself, King of the reaction or 331 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,300 the reach that's a sticking about the hard and what's that 332 00:18:53,300 --> 00:18:55,500 the guard? Yeah, the gardener came. 333 00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:57,600 Yeah. What enter fell? 334 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,700 Yeah, so just take an apostrophe in there and make it sound 335 00:19:00,700 --> 00:19:03,800 fancier, more exotic. More authoritative, apostrophes 336 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,100 are powerful, you all. Let me tell you will have time. 337 00:19:06,100 --> 00:19:11,000 Fans might hear this name as a familiar sound because it rhymes 338 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,600 with Randall Thor. Mandalore. 339 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,400 It is what I thought too. Yeah. 340 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,000 I'm fine. And it has the apostrophe to 341 00:19:19,900 --> 00:19:22,000 what the title indicates. Mandalore. 342 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,400 It's it's equivalent to someone calling themselves King of the 343 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,300 end-all. Al's or king of the rhoynar king 344 00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:29,200 of the first men. Only, it would be king of the 345 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,300 mandalorians in this case because you're you're declaring 346 00:19:31,300 --> 00:19:36,300 yourself, king of a people, not just a land, right? 347 00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:38,900 You're king of Westeros, but you're also king of all and 348 00:19:38,900 --> 00:19:44,100 Dolls is what they say is, what they claim obviously, and I was 349 00:19:44,100 --> 00:19:45,900 living in essos. Don't consider themselves 350 00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:49,300 subjects of the iron throne, but, you know, that's how these 351 00:19:49,300 --> 00:19:52,400 titles work. They tend to go beyond their 352 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,700 actual Authority. So King of the mandalorians is 353 00:19:56,700 --> 00:19:59,500 effectively what the title Mandalore means. 354 00:19:59,500 --> 00:20:02,500 But eventually, the title of Mandalore was joined by the 355 00:20:02,500 --> 00:20:06,500 office of the protectors who are essential Royal bodyguards, like 356 00:20:06,500 --> 00:20:10,500 the Roman praetorians or the more familiar westerosi 357 00:20:10,500 --> 00:20:13,000 kingsguard. Absolutely, they were Elite 358 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,500 Warriors. Chosen from amongst the various 359 00:20:15,500 --> 00:20:19,000 Mandalorian Clans and houses whose job was to keep the ruler 360 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,300 alive from all sorts of threats, like assassination but they also 361 00:20:22,300 --> 00:20:24,800 LED missions, both secretly and openly. 362 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,900 Ben Lee sometimes Leading Armies or at least soldiers of smaller 363 00:20:28,900 --> 00:20:31,900 amounts. Also, like the kingsguard also 364 00:20:31,900 --> 00:20:34,900 also, like the kingsguard they have been at times in their 365 00:20:34,900 --> 00:20:38,400 history, split during Civil conflict or succession crisis 366 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,300 when you're supposed to stay loyal to the king. 367 00:20:40,300 --> 00:20:43,300 But what if there's two kings? What if there's two mandalore's, 368 00:20:43,300 --> 00:20:44,800 right? So that's going to be a core 369 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,300 feature of this episode since those succession crisis. 370 00:20:47,300 --> 00:20:50,400 Some of those at least are similar to The blackfyre 371 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,700 Rebellion ends. It was important though that the 372 00:20:53,700 --> 00:20:58,000 mandalorians be led by a warrior given their Origins as a 373 00:20:58,300 --> 00:21:02,100 overwhelmingly Warrior culture. So while the title Mandalore, is 374 00:21:02,100 --> 00:21:06,000 akin to King in many ways and other ways, it is akin to call 375 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,500 or captain-general of the golden company. 376 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,100 Something you do not get through Heritage or bloodline at least 377 00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:17,700 not usually, but by Merit, and in terms of Merit, it means 378 00:21:17,700 --> 00:21:20,800 beating lots of people in combat establishing yourself as a 379 00:21:20,808 --> 00:21:22,500 warrior. Showing yourself as Brave and 380 00:21:22,500 --> 00:21:26,000 capable Rising through the ranks of your peers which might 381 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,800 involve killing some of them along the way. 382 00:21:29,700 --> 00:21:32,900 So Mandalore the great with his title and his gigantic Beast, 383 00:21:32,900 --> 00:21:35,400 that is still to this day, the symbol of their culture, 10,000 384 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,000 years later. Mandalore, the great said about 385 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,500 to do what Warrior culture, King equivalents do, hey, get into 386 00:21:42,500 --> 00:21:46,800 fights, they start them, presumably at first, this meant 387 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,700 dominating his own planet of Mandalore back then, 388 00:21:49,700 --> 00:21:52,400 mandalorians didn't have their trademark armor with all the 389 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,200 gadgets on the van braces and the jet packs and all that, that 390 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,100 came later. So the mythus, or as a ridden 391 00:21:59,100 --> 00:22:04,500 Beast was even more formidable back then, because, well, no one 392 00:22:04,500 --> 00:22:07,100 was flying around. Like I'm a big lumbering Beast 393 00:22:07,100 --> 00:22:09,900 is in his intimidating when you can jetpack out of the way, but 394 00:22:09,900 --> 00:22:12,200 they didn't have that at least not their individual words, they 395 00:22:12,208 --> 00:22:14,900 certainly had flight because, you know, spaceflight existed, 396 00:22:14,900 --> 00:22:18,800 but the average Mandalorian warrior was nothing like what 397 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:24,000 they were back then. now, about 1,000 years later, they did 398 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:32,200 start to Do that they started to fly around and add onto their 399 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,000 kit and their armor. We'll get to that a little bit 400 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,000 later that will be very long from now given the rate we're 401 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,300 going through, the timeline early mandalorians did have the 402 00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:44,200 trade heart rate, her trademark helmet though. 403 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,500 The one that we all associate with mandalorians, if you ever 404 00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:48,900 seen Boba Fett is one of the first thing you notice about 405 00:22:48,900 --> 00:22:50,200 him. He's shirt right now. 406 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,300 Yeah, on my shirt right now it's called a macro binocular, 407 00:22:53,300 --> 00:22:55,500 viewplate Rich even want a Star Wars fan. 408 00:22:55,700 --> 00:22:58,900 Probably didn't know and that's a fitting name and it's fitting 409 00:22:58,900 --> 00:23:01,900 in general because it's so recognizable and cool. 410 00:23:01,900 --> 00:23:04,400 It's also fitting because it's a helmet and it would be 411 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,200 uncomfortable. If it didn't fit properly, they 412 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,400 wear them a lot. You really want your helmet to 413 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,000 fit properly when you have it on that much. 414 00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:13,600 Mmm. After subduing the entire 415 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:18,500 planet, he said about conquering other worlds, something not very 416 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:21,800 comparable to Westeros. Although you can consider 417 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,800 continents kind of like other worlds and He was largely 418 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,900 successful at this. Now we're not. 419 00:23:26,900 --> 00:23:31,300 So sure he or his Brethren actually like brought mytha 420 00:23:31,300 --> 00:23:34,000 sores with them while conquering other planets. 421 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,700 It's a bit much to put on a ship but who knows. 422 00:23:37,700 --> 00:23:41,200 I mean it's it's not that crazy. I mean technology exists to do 423 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,700 that and the golden company does bring elephants with them on 424 00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:48,500 ships and those are made of wood, not durasteel or whatever 425 00:23:48,500 --> 00:23:51,600 Star Wars ships are made from, not to mention dany's, dragons 426 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,300 have been on ships not when they were particularly large, but 427 00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:59,200 still, if you can put a dragon on a ship of would you might be 428 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,000 able to put amethyst or on some giant spaceship? 429 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,800 Let's keep our minds open here. I'm picturing Anna, Hans? 430 00:24:05,100 --> 00:24:07,800 The kind of creatures that he was transporting and then the 431 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,200 ship yesterday. Do haul. 432 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,800 Some dangerous animals, don't they? 433 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,800 Yeah, they were hauling some very dangerous, big animals. 434 00:24:14,900 --> 00:24:17,800 So, yeah, those things have to move somehow, right. 435 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,600 So, but they're now, do they do they have to move Planet 436 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,100 somehow? I guess don't know if they 437 00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:25,100 really need. I'll have to it all happen. 438 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,700 We just want them to so, but here's a, here's a conundrum, 439 00:24:29,700 --> 00:24:34,200 though, there's exceptions, but in the Star Wars Universe 440 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,000 humans. Don't Really live all that much 441 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,700 longer than they do in the real world. 442 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,600 In Westeros, they live a little bit less because you know, they 443 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,000 don't have understanding of bacteria. 444 00:24:45,100 --> 00:24:48,100 You know, basic lot of basic health stuff which they do in 445 00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:51,400 Star Wars but still. So how does Mandalore the great? 446 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,100 How did this guy live? So long right? 447 00:24:54,100 --> 00:24:57,400 This is he conquered his own Planet, then moved on to conquer 448 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,400 other plans. Like this is, it sounds like a 449 00:24:59,408 --> 00:25:02,900 long period of time, doesn't it? So it brings us to yet another 450 00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:05,100 parallel here. First of all, is that That 451 00:25:05,100 --> 00:25:08,500 Mandalore, the great may not have been human, that was likely 452 00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:12,800 the case for the pre Disney version of this character, but 453 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,900 it remains unclarified in the new Disney Cannon. 454 00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:18,500 Now, for those who don't know, lots of stories were written in 455 00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:20,600 the Star Wars Universe before, Disney bought it from George 456 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,300 Lucas and there wasn't any management of that. 457 00:25:22,300 --> 00:25:25,800 So there's all sorts of overlap and inconsistencies, so Disney 458 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,600 kind of cancelled it all and is reusing some of it making sense 459 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,000 out of some of it. So some of the stuff, there's 460 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,700 two versions of some of these stories I'm using. 461 00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:37,000 The current Disney cannon that's been clarified. 462 00:25:37,900 --> 00:25:40,700 So just just so you know. So the other possibility though 463 00:25:40,700 --> 00:25:45,000 is that Mandalore the great is like a gray, King Garth 464 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,900 greenhand. Brandon the Builder Bloodstone, 465 00:25:49,900 --> 00:25:53,900 Emperor type figure, one, whose Deeds, don't really seem to fit 466 00:25:53,900 --> 00:25:57,000 within one lifetime, which either means there was something 467 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,800 extending their life in the Song of Ice and Fire setting or as 468 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,300 with a lot of these Age of Heroes figure. 469 00:26:02,300 --> 00:26:04,800 We, we theorize that maybe there's multiple people. 470 00:26:04,900 --> 00:26:07,400 Well that held this title or so ascribed. 471 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,600 These deeds in part to make them sound more fancy and epic 472 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,800 overtime. So quite possibly mental or the 473 00:26:14,808 --> 00:26:19,600 great is multiple people, it just fit kept taking on that 474 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,500 title Mandalore, the great, because a candle or Mendel. 475 00:26:22,700 --> 00:26:26,200 That's the mental, it's easy to see how this could get confused. 476 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,600 Given, how the planets called Mandalore, the title is 477 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,900 Mandalore, and the guy is named Mandalore, the grade like maybe 478 00:26:33,900 --> 00:26:36,300 mix it up a little. But hey, we're used to that were 479 00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:38,800 Song of Ice and Fire fans. This is just like a dude is just 480 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,500 like another egg on, right? For a Darren or brandan Wright. 481 00:26:42,508 --> 00:26:46,900 This we're used to people with the same name as we'll see later 482 00:26:46,900 --> 00:26:49,300 though. There are good. 483 00:26:49,300 --> 00:26:52,900 Reasons why even in a setting like this with technology and 484 00:26:52,900 --> 00:26:56,300 all, there's no records to disprove or verify these myths. 485 00:26:56,300 --> 00:26:58,700 And as long as I can fire, you can easily see why these things 486 00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:01,000 aren't kept track of. It's a little harder to see that 487 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,700 and Star Wars setting. But again, as I said, it will 488 00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:07,600 become clear and it will to make Sense, as we move forward, the 489 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,700 next notable historical marker. In Mandalorian history, is their 490 00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:15,500 Wars against the Jedi, which came as a result of the semi 491 00:27:15,500 --> 00:27:18,800 Relentless warring under Mandalore, the great and his 492 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,300 successors, or if it was still him, you know, I should call him 493 00:27:23,300 --> 00:27:25,200 Brandel or the great if we're going to find him. 494 00:27:25,300 --> 00:27:26,500 Brandon the Builder. Yeah. 495 00:27:26,500 --> 00:27:28,800 Brandel or? Yes, yes. 496 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,900 Now, I say worrying. And not Conquest because they 497 00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:33,400 didn't always care about that part. 498 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,000 They did conquer. Or the space near them. 499 00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:40,100 But the farther out they went kind of like valyria the less 500 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,700 incentive there was to control it and more insensitive was just 501 00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:48,000 to take slaves or wealth or just to fight in the case of 502 00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:51,100 mandalorians it was more just for fighting or for honor's 503 00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:53,400 sake. It one point in their early 504 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:58,500 history, a new group of mandalorians emerged who wore an 505 00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:01,400 early version of that famous helmet over robes and 506 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,900 rudimentary armor. They were called Mandalorian 507 00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:08,500 Crusaders and it's exactly what it sounds like they went out and 508 00:28:08,500 --> 00:28:12,300 just started fights and attack people that didn't follow their 509 00:28:12,300 --> 00:28:14,600 values, kind of kind of crappy really. 510 00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:17,300 Just picking fights just because people were weak and they're 511 00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:19,300 like well you're too weak. So we got to destroy you because 512 00:28:19,300 --> 00:28:21,200 you're weak, you offend us with your weakness? 513 00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:23,900 Yeah. Pretty Valerian, honestly. 514 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,900 A different attitude, different reason why they would pick on 515 00:28:28,900 --> 00:28:31,700 people, but just starting fights, and subjugating lesser 516 00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:35,100 beings pretty similar. The Mandalorian Crusaders, not 517 00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:38,000 only did they, I said swords and armor now. 518 00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:41,600 Yeah, these are technological things though, these were 519 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,500 Electro swords. Many of them rode semi-sentient 520 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,100 basilisk droids in to combat. These are this is like a war 521 00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:54,600 horse but that can fire missiles and lasers and stuff. 522 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,500 So you know some of them even had Lance's though so they were 523 00:28:58,500 --> 00:29:02,500 true. They're really trying to be like 524 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,500 What we think of as nights but in space. 525 00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:09,400 All right, space nights. So and of course the variety of 526 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,300 armors going to be pretty spectacular. 527 00:29:11,300 --> 00:29:14,200 So dontos would love the heraldry and so would we if we 528 00:29:14,208 --> 00:29:16,600 got to see it. So all sorts of different armors 529 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,900 and colors and sigils, it would be very familiar. 530 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,200 I think a lot of people, he could probably compare it a lot 531 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,700 to. I don't like a Warhammer 40K 532 00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:26,900 setting where you see like just large painted or weld customized 533 00:29:26,900 --> 00:29:31,100 armies of but of mandalorians instead early version 534 00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:33,800 mandalorians and this institution and Barely lasted 535 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,100 for Millennia, unlike say the real-world version or 536 00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:42,600 equivalencies in Westeros and essos of like the the faith of 537 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,900 the seven or The Warriors Sons, things like that. 538 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,200 The Mandalorian Jedi Wars, our next mini subject here. 539 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,200 It was on one of these many men DeLorean Crusades that they 540 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,300 devastated. The world of Duryea, the 541 00:29:58,300 --> 00:30:01,500 Homeworld of a race that established one of the earliest 542 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:03,500 trade empires in the Star Wars Galaxy. 543 00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:05,000 So this is still a long time ago. 544 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:11,300 Probably 9000 is years ago, they saw the of dorian's as cowards, 545 00:30:11,700 --> 00:30:15,000 which meant they had to be attacked think of the free 546 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,200 cities, very murky. Aunt, I'll think of how the 547 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:22,000 Dothraki look on such people as cowardly. 548 00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:24,900 But unlike the Dothraki, the mandalorians actually attack 549 00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:28,100 these guys, because the dracky need free cities to sell their 550 00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:30,000 slaves to and things like that. The mandalorians don't think of 551 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,300 it that way. They're just like, we're not 552 00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:34,500 into this, we're not into in this for money or loot, but it's 553 00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:39,000 a similar level of contempt for people who trade and live that 554 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,100 lifestyle, rather than live the life of a warrior. 555 00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:43,900 So, yeah. Early. 556 00:30:43,900 --> 00:30:47,000 Mandalorians are seeming more Dothraki than Valyrian, but 557 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,400 we're getting there were getting there. 558 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,700 It's going to change over time. So, it was during this 559 00:30:50,700 --> 00:30:53,800 particular Crusade as I understand it that they first 560 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:58,500 encountered the Jedi who had been around, at least 15,000 561 00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:01,100 years by this point, to the Jedi, were not new on the scene, 562 00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:05,500 and had mastered use of the force, you know, well before. 563 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:11,100 So, It's if you don't know what the Jedi are, I assume most of 564 00:31:11,108 --> 00:31:16,800 you do, but they're basically monk Mystics with effectively 565 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,300 magical powers. There were actually many, many 566 00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:25,000 wars, between them spanning thousands of years, this period, 567 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,000 perhaps aligns best with the eons long Wars between the first 568 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,300 men and the children of the forest or the ensuing Wars 569 00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:34,100 between the first men. And the Andals, those conflicts 570 00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:39,000 also took place over thousands of years in parently, so it's a 571 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,300 great parallel. It's fitting for this comparison 572 00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:46,300 to that most Jedi aim to be. What's the levels you start as 573 00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:47,600 an initiate. You start going to go to 574 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,700 Padawan, which is kind of like a squire, an initiates kind of 575 00:31:50,708 --> 00:31:55,400 like a page, the lowest level and then you become a knight 576 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,100 Jedi, Knight or a regular line. So there's three levels there 577 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,900 and then above that, you have Jedi Master, which the equipment 578 00:32:02,900 --> 00:32:06,300 be like landed night which are called masters of certain 579 00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:07,800 castles. Like if you're a land at night 580 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,300 and you rule a castle, your master that castle not Lord of 581 00:32:10,308 --> 00:32:11,900 that castle. So, that's a distinction that 582 00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:13,500 some of y'all may not have ever caught before. 583 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:20,400 So it's kind of like squiring from a great height, being a 584 00:32:20,408 --> 00:32:22,700 squire, from a great house would be like the equivalent of a 585 00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:29,100 Padawan I suppose. So another thing about Jedi yes 586 00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:32,600 it's the force is basically magic with a rudimentary 587 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,100 scientific explanation but basically magic especially from 588 00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:37,700 the perspective of the mandalorians we're looking at it 589 00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:40,900 from their perspective they know very little about the force and 590 00:32:40,900 --> 00:32:44,300 they got dudes or waving their hands and moving objects 591 00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:47,900 telekinesis and mind control that looks like magic, right? 592 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,900 They say the force is part of every living thing. which is not 593 00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:55,400 too unlike what they say about the old gods, here's a little 594 00:32:55,400 --> 00:33:01,200 quote, the gods are all around us in the rocks and streams in 595 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,300 the birds and beasts. Yes, that's exactly what to say 596 00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:06,400 about the force. It's in everything. 597 00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:10,200 If the force is new to you, there's nothing wrong with that, 598 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,400 but there was a lot wrong with that, for the ancient 599 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,300 mandalorians because they didn't know what they were getting 600 00:33:14,300 --> 00:33:18,600 into, but their code of honor demanded that they fight like 601 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,800 everyone. I guess, anyone worthy. 602 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,900 And even those unworthy because they were obviously picking on 603 00:33:23,900 --> 00:33:25,800 those, they called cowers. Really, that just fighting 604 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,000 everyone. So, despite the Jedis great 605 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,200 Advantage, the Mandalorian just had to fight them. 606 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,900 Even though they kept losing, they just had to keep trying. 607 00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:39,500 It was that was their honor, demanded it and well, it didn't 608 00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:45,200 go so well. They weren't a creative or 609 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,100 imaginative people. You could say, given the naming 610 00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:53,700 schemes but when motivated, they certainly could be inventive. 611 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:58,600 They're normally uninspired technological advancement kicked 612 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,100 into high gear because they finally had a new reason to do 613 00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:05,600 so they finally ran into a photo they couldn't beat. 614 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,000 Rather than not fighting them, which is what a lot of, which is 615 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,100 what a logical conclusion. A lot of people would have come 616 00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:14,500 to, they just said, well how can we beat them? 617 00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:16,600 What do we need to do to defeat the Jedi? 618 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:21,000 So they didn't have to adapt until they had to and then they 619 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,199 did and they went big on those adaptations when they got there. 620 00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:29,500 These losses spurred a phase of technological development never 621 00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:33,699 seen before. And of course it was geared 622 00:34:33,699 --> 00:34:37,100 toward defeating the Jedi who to them again, seemed like Wizards 623 00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:38,600 now. Here's a quote from Maria and 624 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,600 fat Tom to describe that General attitude. 625 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,000 What if a wizard was sent to kill him? 626 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,199 Well, as to, that Desmond replied drawing his longsword 627 00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:50,300 Wizards die, the same as other men. 628 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,500 Once you cut their heads off, And as we said, Mandalorian 629 00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:58,600 Crusaders, and modern mandalorians sometimes fight 630 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:03,300 with swords or sword equivalents in addition to Blasters and all 631 00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:05,700 the expected higher Tech weaponry and the setting. 632 00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:09,800 But the warrior culture, still values close combat, most of 633 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,200 all. It's, there's more honor and 634 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,700 beating a photo up close than shooting them. 635 00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:15,400 They don't shun long-distance combat. 636 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,000 They just see more honor in close combat just like nights do 637 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,000 nights mostly fight up close. They leave the archery to 638 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,700 others. As for the most part, but they 639 00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:25,800 don't shun it, right? There's lots of knights who were 640 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,900 experts with the bow. Brendan Blackfish, current 641 00:35:28,900 --> 00:35:31,900 kingsguard bail on Swan was the last Challenger. 642 00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:35,000 Dang God Archer. He was like second place in the 643 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,400 hands tournament. The problem was that despite 644 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:43,700 this the Jedi as well as having the so-called wizard Powers AKA 645 00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:47,000 Attunement to the force. We're still better at cutting 646 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,000 off heads than mandalorians were, this was in part due to 647 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,000 their lightsabers. Our swords of plasma that can 648 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,400 cut through almost anything again. 649 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,700 We're dealing with an easy parallel here. 650 00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:03,000 Fire swords are not unfamiliar and A Song of Ice and Fire lore. 651 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,300 Hello lightbringer. Hello, Wildfire swords. 652 00:36:05,300 --> 00:36:09,500 Hello swords of flame, lit by rail, or, and of course, 653 00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:12,600 Valyrian, steel can cut through. Almost anything to like a 654 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,400 lightsaber, familiar elements everywhere. 655 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,900 Let's get something even more familiar, though. 656 00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:21,600 The Mandalorian armor, so most of these technological 657 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,600 advancements. Spurred on by their conflicts 658 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,800 with the Jedi were geared towards upgrading the famous and 659 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,700 feared, and very identifiable, Mandalorian armor, the helmet 660 00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:36,200 expanded to become a full kit, not just a helmet, a full suit, 661 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,900 not unlike a night of Westeros or, you know, other non nightly, 662 00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:41,900 armored Warriors of Westeros and essos. 663 00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:44,800 They like other, their nights aren't the only ones who wear 664 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:49,100 lots of armor but you know, some don't like the Dothraki. 665 00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:52,200 The first suit of Mandalorian armor. 666 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,700 The vast majority of us ever saw was Boba Fett in The Empire 667 00:36:56,700 --> 00:36:59,700 Strikes Back and that one appearance of that one character 668 00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:03,300 and his subsequent appearance in the next movie and a bajillion 669 00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:07,600 comics and video games. Well, people just thought he was 670 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:12,900 so cool. I mean, He's kind of like the 671 00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:16,800 Red Viper in a sense because he had very little screen time, but 672 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,500 he became such an enormously popular character and it was 673 00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:23,300 mostly based on his look and Boba Fett sparked. 674 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,000 The Red Viper had lots of dialogue in lines. 675 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,700 He was a little more deeply involved for that short period. 676 00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:32,100 Until his role was expanded and for Boba Fett. 677 00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:33,800 Is it first? It was just based on his look, 678 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,200 you'd like a couple of lines, his role wasn't large at all. 679 00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:39,900 But, you know, A Song of Ice and Fire is familiar with the 680 00:37:39,900 --> 00:37:41,900 concept of falling for a character based on very little 681 00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:43,500 screen time. The Red Viper, isn't nearly the 682 00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:45,500 only example. There's lots of characters we 683 00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:49,600 love that have barely been seen. Yeah, that's that's what comes 684 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,500 with being really deep in a fandom, right? 685 00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:56,600 So, this brings us back to another comparison. 686 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,500 Something we pointed out in our episode. 687 00:37:58,500 --> 00:38:00,600 I think it was our Our episode on the children, the forest when 688 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,800 we brought up George r.r. Martin, short story and seven 689 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,000 times never kill man. Because here's a photo Ash and I 690 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,900 went to a Star Wars exhibit, here in Georgia here, near 691 00:38:10,900 --> 00:38:15,200 Atlanta, where it had a, it's the largest private collection 692 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:19,400 of Star Wars figurines. And for example, here is the 693 00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:22,000 Ralph McQuarrie design of Boba Fett. 694 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,900 This was the original design for Boba Fett, which eventually 695 00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:29,900 became more of The Stormtrooper version now. 696 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,400 Ralph McQuarrie, if you recall, his original design for the 697 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,900 Jane, she was borrowed for Chewbacca or looked like 698 00:38:37,900 --> 00:38:39,700 Chewbacca and got borrowed for that. 699 00:38:39,700 --> 00:38:43,100 So, it was being drawn for George and ended up being used 700 00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:48,000 in Star Wars and Ralph. McQuarrie also was involved in 701 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,400 the design of the first Stormtrooper. 702 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,400 As you can see, very similar to the Boba Fett thing here with 703 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,500 sword and shield. So even the early Storm Troopers 704 00:38:56,700 --> 00:38:58,600 Yes, we're going to fight with swords and shields. 705 00:38:58,600 --> 00:38:59,800 They were eventually. They were all going to have 706 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,100 lightsabers but eventually George Lucas decided that those 707 00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:06,000 would be only amongst the there's would be use a lot less 708 00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:09,000 lightsabers would be a rare weapon rather than a common one. 709 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,300 Each Mandalorian warrior has options for what to equip on 710 00:39:15,300 --> 00:39:18,200 their vambrace. Has a variety of projectiles 711 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,800 that pierce poison paralyzed, or pulverise ropes for action 712 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,400 figures, exactly. I'm an option picture add right 713 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:26,000 now. Yes. 714 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,200 Yeah, ropes, that grapple blades Shield even flamethrowers. 715 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,300 Imagine the expansion pack today. 716 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,600 Might expect imagine that with Wildfire, right? 717 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,000 Get a green fire from Wildfire expansion available. 718 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,900 Only in your local Target. Not Walmart. 719 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:47,100 I said, mister mister calling as a toy marketer here, you're good 720 00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:48,800 at this. Look at this natural ability. 721 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,300 Now, of course, of course, these things were designed to surprise 722 00:39:53,300 --> 00:39:56,500 the Jedi to give them now with new surprises. 723 00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:05,200 Now, of course, it's best to take a Jedi by surprise and 724 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,200 nullify them before they can even break out their lightsaber. 725 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,700 But but if you can't do that, it's not always going to work 726 00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:15,100 out so well, Jedi aren't the easiest to sneak up on. 727 00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:20,300 The mandalorians discovered and made use of an extremely potent 728 00:40:20,300 --> 00:40:23,700 metal, which they call Bhaskar new Beth's car. 729 00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:31,500 You best our armours and happy and best gar. 730 00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:33,800 Yes. If you're thinking of Valyrian 731 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,800 steel here, you should be and a nickname for best car in the 732 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,200 Star Wars. Universe is scar that scar. 733 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,500 Yeah. Best best car. 734 00:40:42,900 --> 00:40:46,100 Mandalorian steel is what a lot of non mandalorians College. 735 00:40:46,300 --> 00:40:49,400 So there you go. The time that the parallel gets 736 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,000 even tighter. Best car is light and extremely 737 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:59,100 durable stays crispy and milk. Now, I'm picturing there's like 738 00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:03,100 a specific episode of Futurama where they do Saturday morning, 739 00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:05,100 fun pit. You know, they show all the old 740 00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:08,700 like the ant like little animated children's cartoons, 741 00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:11,800 you know, and they do one, that's basically just like a 742 00:41:11,808 --> 00:41:14,100 very, like a modern children's show. 743 00:41:14,300 --> 00:41:17,500 We're like fry comes in is the Orange character and then it 744 00:41:17,500 --> 00:41:20,900 cuts to Commercial and it's like, now, with with new orange 745 00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:24,000 pops, real orange. And then like, every time they 746 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,300 introduced a new character into the cartoon, it cuts to 747 00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:28,800 commercial, it's just an ad for that. 748 00:41:30,700 --> 00:41:32,900 That's what I'm chance. There would be lots of ads in 749 00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:34,900 this one, then if we were doing that. 750 00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:40,900 But pattern, so Bhaskar can easily repel a blaster shots and 751 00:41:40,900 --> 00:41:42,900 can actually repel lightsabers to a certain degree. 752 00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:45,800 It can light saber, like held up to best car, will heat it. 753 00:41:45,900 --> 00:41:48,800 And A little glow, but it won't be enough to like melt it. 754 00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:52,900 Maybe like a direct piercing strike can get through, but it's 755 00:41:52,900 --> 00:41:55,800 close. It's the only metal known to the 756 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,100 Star Wars universe. That can do that though. 757 00:41:57,100 --> 00:42:00,000 They can, they can handle a lightsaber now. 758 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,900 We're not actually sure the full extent of the powers of Valyrian 759 00:42:02,900 --> 00:42:05,600 steel armor, and A Song of Ice and Fire, though, we do know a 760 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,800 suit exist and we're eager to see what it does. 761 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,600 So one feature of your on suit though is it is covered in runes 762 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,200 and sigils and stuff which again You see that on Mandalorian 763 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:20,900 armor to not Valerian sigils and runes, but you see customizing 764 00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:27,700 and heraldry and sigils and maybe like markers of things 765 00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:30,300 they've done, you know, like achievements things like that. 766 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,300 There's obvious similarities to a night skit starting with the 767 00:42:35,300 --> 00:42:37,500 helmet, as always. I mean, we see a variety of 768 00:42:37,500 --> 00:42:40,000 helmet shapes in A Song of Ice and Fire and medieval world's 769 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,900 men aren't helmets are a little more similar to each other. 770 00:42:43,900 --> 00:42:47,800 They have that. Identifiable faceplate but 771 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:52,400 beyond that things change. Now one big difference is there 772 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:57,200 is a religious taboo which we're talking about an entire culture. 773 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,300 So not everyone adheres to this taboo as thoroughly as others. 774 00:43:00,300 --> 00:43:04,400 Some perhaps not at all, but the taboo is on best car weapons. 775 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,300 Since best gar. Weapons can Pierce best, gar 776 00:43:08,300 --> 00:43:13,200 steel, best car armor. Rather it's considered wrong. 777 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,000 They shouldn't exist. At one point. 778 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,600 If you've seen the Mandalore and you saw, there was a best car 779 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,800 spear made by non-members. Deloreans and when the men 780 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,900 learns got a hold of it, they melted it down and turned it 781 00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:27,300 into armor. Now, there's a little bit of a 782 00:43:27,308 --> 00:43:31,700 gray area here. Just like there are with a lot 783 00:43:31,700 --> 00:43:35,000 of tools that are used in a medieval or pre medieval society 784 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,400 that can double as Weapons. This beer is meant to hunt 785 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,600 animals, not people, but it certainly works against people. 786 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,200 Same thing with hammers and axes hammers are meant for hammering 787 00:43:46,300 --> 00:43:49,000 objects, not people but they work on people and axes are 788 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,400 meant for trees but they were coming from Words as we've said, 789 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,600 many times are a symbol of violence against humans, because 790 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,500 that's the only thing they're good for. 791 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,500 Even a knife has other uses a sword as sword used as a dinner 792 00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:05,500 Implement is that's really not a good choice. 793 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,400 It's unwieldy and maybe even a little dangerous, just not not 794 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,500 efficient at all. So in this case, Mandalorian 795 00:44:11,500 --> 00:44:14,900 weapons are there's a little bit of gray area as well. 796 00:44:14,900 --> 00:44:19,200 Because hammers are okay, hammers can be used as Weapons. 797 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,300 We see a particular ER, Mandalore in the armor or using 798 00:44:22,300 --> 00:44:24,700 her weapon, her Hammer as a weapon, but it's all. 799 00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:28,300 It's meant to be more as well as a forging hammer. 800 00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:33,600 And, of course, other adornments colors, men, some men DeLorean 801 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,900 armors shiny like metal. But you see all sorts of colors 802 00:44:37,900 --> 00:44:40,100 painted onto it red, just greens, yellows, Blues, 803 00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:41,800 whatever. And sometimes, these colors are 804 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:47,300 meant to denote allegiance to a certain cause or subgroup also 805 00:44:47,300 --> 00:44:52,300 like you would see in Westeros. Let's talk about the minds of 806 00:44:52,300 --> 00:44:56,600 Mandalore, the mines are a sacred Place filled with an 807 00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,000 installation called the Great Forge, and many lesser forages 808 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,000 around it, all capable of making, and remaking. 809 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,400 Best car. In some ways, it's more like the 810 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,100 mines of Moria from Lord of the Rings. 811 00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:10,900 And something from A Song of Ice and Fire right down to a huge 812 00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:13,800 ancient Beast, lurking in the depths, right? 813 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,600 The balrog in the case of Lord of the Rings versus the Memphis, 814 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,100 or know who would win in that fight that are adverse the 815 00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:23,100 missis, or I that's like Like a Godzilla kind of battle right 816 00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:25,900 there. This is of course, comparable to 817 00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:28,300 the minds of, not just valyria, but yeah, plenty of other 818 00:45:28,300 --> 00:45:30,100 worlds. I mean fucking minds here. 819 00:45:30,100 --> 00:45:33,500 Those exist all over the place and the real world to the mines 820 00:45:33,500 --> 00:45:37,800 in current Star Wars timeline era seem to be mostly flooded. 821 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,900 But when they were active, they were probably a lot hotter or 822 00:45:41,500 --> 00:45:44,700 maybe really hot Valeri of course their minds were super 823 00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:47,100 super hot. It was a constant problem for 824 00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:49,400 their slaves. Mining was a core activity of 825 00:45:49,408 --> 00:45:52,100 their culture. Rather a core activity of their 826 00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:58,100 slaves and of course, they were harvesting all sorts of raw, 827 00:45:58,100 --> 00:46:02,100 materials and minerals from their volcanoes and nearby 828 00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:05,900 mines, here's where I want to shout out, our friend McCall 829 00:46:05,900 --> 00:46:11,800 shik, who did an episode on her YouTube channel, called Mendel 830 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,200 Orthodox, Jewish history and modern practice, in the 831 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,200 Mandalorian, she even got a shout-out from Ryan area of 832 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,400 screen crushed. So, congrats on that. 833 00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:25,400 Because yes, the Mandalorian also borrows a good bit of 834 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:30,200 religious culture from Judaism, especially already Orthodox 835 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,500 Judaism, and write down to things, like the Living Waters, 836 00:46:33,500 --> 00:46:36,900 which is a direct thing from Judaism. 837 00:46:36,900 --> 00:46:41,100 It's also from a religion called Manda is MM, which in might 838 00:46:41,100 --> 00:46:44,700 think as an even tighter parallel because of the name but 839 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,200 mentalism is barely understood or researched or explored by 840 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,900 westerners. Is actually a larger religion 841 00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:54,800 than you might think, but Judaism is much bigger in the 842 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,800 west. So either way, check out man. 843 00:46:57,100 --> 00:47:00,600 McCall's, YouTube stream on this, we put the link down in 844 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,400 the description, down its Link in the description. 845 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:04,800 Yeah, it's in the live stream chat. 846 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,200 Yes. So the myth is, or is apparently 847 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,600 capable of living deep within these Waters, or any Waters, 848 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,800 which greatly enhances the religious and cultural 849 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,700 significance of the mines themselves. 850 00:47:16,900 --> 00:47:23,000 It's their trademark Beast. In their trademark Zone, the 851 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,300 minds are like super important to them in the Memphis or is 852 00:47:25,300 --> 00:47:26,700 their Sigil of their entire culture. 853 00:47:26,700 --> 00:47:31,300 So yeah and the very first missis or was supposedly tamed 854 00:47:31,300 --> 00:47:34,900 by Mandalore the great in these very same mines. 855 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,300 Again, reminder of the fireworms, perhaps The Fourteen 856 00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:42,300 Flames were destroyed during the Doom of valyria and likewise 857 00:47:42,300 --> 00:47:45,200 during events will describe during the second half of this 858 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,700 episode. It appeared as if the mines, 859 00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:51,400 along with much else was destroyed forever to that turned 860 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:55,200 out to be not so true, which also makes it an easy parallel 861 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,100 to the fate of the minds of the Freehold. 862 00:47:57,500 --> 00:48:02,700 There's some suspicion that some parts of valyria aren't 863 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,200 uninhabitable after all. Or at least you can go there 864 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,400 temporarily, which is similar to the minds of Mandalore. 865 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,100 They were, it was a mistaken, belief people thought it was 866 00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:13,400 destroyed, people thought it was Untouchable who thought it was 867 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,400 cursed. A variety of stories were told 868 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,400 about it and some of those rumors may have been started by 869 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,000 other people, to keep people away which is also theories we 870 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,600 have about valyria. Some people may not want the 871 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,100 exploration to happen because then they'll discover what's 872 00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:30,200 really happening there or what's really available there or just 873 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,200 for whatever reason, they wanted to keep it secret. 874 00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:36,100 So if you're on was telling the truth in part or in whole about 875 00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:38,400 going to valyria the Peril, the peril. 876 00:48:38,500 --> 00:48:41,600 Get even stronger. Regardless, the parallels don't 877 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,800 end there. Best car is not a metal, that 878 00:48:43,808 --> 00:48:46,300 just comes out of the mines ready to go. 879 00:48:46,900 --> 00:48:51,600 It requires a very special process to forge create and mold 880 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,300 properly. It's a secret guarded, by the 881 00:48:54,300 --> 00:48:58,600 revered Mandalorian armor whirrs and passed down to a very few 882 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,900 select deemed capable and worthy. 883 00:49:01,700 --> 00:49:03,800 Now, as far as we know, they don't that doesn't involve Human 884 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:08,400 Sacrifice but it's similar to the blur. 885 00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:11,900 And steel in that it is a closely guarded secret, 886 00:49:11,900 --> 00:49:15,100 something highly valuable, and it's been that way for eons. 887 00:49:16,500 --> 00:49:18,700 Also, we have another irony here. 888 00:49:19,300 --> 00:49:22,300 The mandalorians give this car a lot, more religious significance 889 00:49:22,300 --> 00:49:24,400 than the valyrians give to their as we don't know that the 890 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,500 valyrians give it any religious significance. 891 00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:30,900 They certainly valued it but not they weren't in awe of it. 892 00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:33,200 I don't think not not in religious all anyway. 893 00:49:34,700 --> 00:49:37,300 So it's kind of weird that in this space fantasy setting 894 00:49:37,300 --> 00:49:41,500 again, like I said, this is another irony Mandalorian armor, 895 00:49:41,500 --> 00:49:45,200 Czar of higher Social Status than most anything in their 896 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,900 culture. It's kind of odd to have a some 897 00:49:47,900 --> 00:49:50,200 a futuristic setting where armorer's are so highly 898 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,700 regarded. Whereas that's not necessarily 899 00:49:53,700 --> 00:49:57,200 the case in Westeros, some Smiths are very highly valued 900 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,300 but they're not they don't have really high social status unless 901 00:50:00,300 --> 00:50:02,800 they're rich. It's the wealth that gives them 902 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,700 the social status. Not their job. 903 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,200 But no one knows how to make Valyrian steel anymore. 904 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,200 So that secret was lost and only the co horak know how to remake 905 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,600 it and they guard that secret really jealously as well. 906 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,900 So it's a similar enough thing. Even though the reasons they 907 00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:21,300 guarded are for different reasons are for different 908 00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:25,800 motivations rather. And another difference here is 909 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,900 Mandalorian armor, is as valuable as they are. 910 00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:31,800 As far as we know, they still have to be Warriors, like that, 911 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:37,400 still comes first and the blood, Mages of valyria who made 912 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,000 Valyrian steel and oversaw, whatever sacrifices needed to 913 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,200 happen. Probably weren't worried 914 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,000 herself. They probably spent their time 915 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,800 with books and spells, and that's about it. 916 00:50:49,900 --> 00:50:53,200 Now, the religious significance also has a big impact on how the 917 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,900 metal is treated out in the rest of the universe and the galaxies 918 00:50:56,900 --> 00:51:00,400 because while we're not entirely, sure how Valerie is 919 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,300 saw their steel again. There's no indication that they 920 00:51:04,300 --> 00:51:06,300 revered it like the mandalorians do. 921 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,500 The idea of Mandalorian selling Bhaskar is essentially unheard 922 00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:17,300 of that would be like, Blasphemy almost in fact, many men, 923 00:51:17,300 --> 00:51:20,500 Deloreans believe that all best car belongs to them to their 924 00:51:20,500 --> 00:51:22,200 culture. Not them specifically, not 925 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,400 individuals, but if there's best car out in the world, it belongs 926 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,300 to mandalorians, no one else should be allowed to own it. 927 00:51:28,300 --> 00:51:30,100 That's, that's how hardcore they are about it. 928 00:51:30,100 --> 00:51:32,200 In some cases, Valerian, not so much. 929 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,000 They were willing to sell Valyrian steel, though. 930 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:44,200 They expected a lot for it. So westerosi houses, however, it 931 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,900 does bring up another parallel westerosi houses did not in 932 00:51:47,900 --> 00:51:49,800 turn, sell their Valyrian steel once. 933 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,500 They acquired it, they clung to It, jealously stubbornly, 934 00:51:53,700 --> 00:51:56,100 Whatever recall. How hard Tywin Lannister tried 935 00:51:56,100 --> 00:51:59,200 to buy a Valyrian steel, blade from other houses only to be 936 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,700 rebuffed. Even by those houses who really 937 00:52:01,700 --> 00:52:03,900 needed the money even by impoverished houses. 938 00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:06,800 And again, we have to imagine as we usually do and ever tywin's 939 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:11,200 offering money. It's a lot right Tywin uses. 940 00:52:11,500 --> 00:52:13,900 Wealth like a weapon, he's he doesn't stint. 941 00:52:13,900 --> 00:52:17,300 He uses it intentionally, overwhelmingly to show. 942 00:52:17,300 --> 00:52:23,700 How powerful he and his house are So Westeros irreverence and 943 00:52:23,700 --> 00:52:27,600 attachment to their ancestral weapons is close to the 944 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:32,300 Mandalorian reverence for their armor, at least the steel or the 945 00:52:32,300 --> 00:52:34,800 metal it's made out of. But also the actual suits of 946 00:52:34,808 --> 00:52:36,300 armor that have been passed through generations. 947 00:52:36,300 --> 00:52:38,700 So we have a little both there. Something else we see in the 948 00:52:38,700 --> 00:52:40,300 song of ice and fire. Again, I'll I've mentioned this 949 00:52:40,300 --> 00:52:43,300 already but a reminder, this is similar to like house Royce and 950 00:52:43,300 --> 00:52:46,500 their armor, the bronze armor with runes on it or the original 951 00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:50,000 sword ice before it was a Valyrian steel version. 952 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,800 Which that versions Only 400 years old, but the tradition of 953 00:52:53,900 --> 00:52:57,300 the Starks, having a sword called ice goes, well beyond 954 00:52:57,300 --> 00:52:59,400 that. Lots of crowns to that have 955 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,100 passed down over Generations. Not just the Targaryen ones, but 956 00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:07,600 other ones but what happens when an item or any item passed down 957 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,900 through generations or more becomes associated with not just 958 00:53:11,900 --> 00:53:17,500 family but ruling. Well this brings us to the first 959 00:53:17,500 --> 00:53:22,400 parallel, I noticed The biggest one of all here in my opinion, 960 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,000 which led me to all the rest of these parallels. 961 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:29,000 It was the opening to The Rabbit Hole, a rabbit hole that I found 962 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,900 very deep. As you can see, it's a whole 963 00:53:30,900 --> 00:53:34,200 episode, we'll get to that in the second half. 964 00:53:37,300 --> 00:53:41,400 All right, friends, we have not a lot to say here at the 965 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:42,600 mid-roll. I'm going to get right back to 966 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,600 it quickly, but I did want to say a couple of things Mark 967 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:53,800 Stanley who played Gren on Game of Thrones was also one of the 968 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:59,900 Knights of Ren right in the force awakens and Rise of 969 00:53:59,908 --> 00:54:03,400 Skywalker and the middle ones. Last Jedi, the one. 970 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,700 I like the most out of the way. I can't think of that one. 971 00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:11,100 So he's the night of Gren clearly and our good friend 972 00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:11,800 Rudy. What's up already? 973 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,400 Shouts out or the Mandalorian helmet is perfect dread pirate, 974 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:15,900 Roberts mask. Oh yes. 975 00:54:16,500 --> 00:54:21,200 Actually, that's a great segue. Thanks Rudy, because Star Wars 976 00:54:21,500 --> 00:54:24,700 does, what a lot of people think A Song of Ice and Fire does 977 00:54:24,700 --> 00:54:27,200 which is secret identities. People who turn out to be 978 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,600 someone else to be fair. It makes sense in Star Wars 979 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,100 because there's lots of helmets and masks. 980 00:54:33,100 --> 00:54:35,800 It's a part of the setting and make sense its technology, which 981 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:36,600 is what rude. He's saying. 982 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,300 Here, you can have the same person wearing the same helmet 983 00:54:39,300 --> 00:54:42,700 across generations and you'd never know how many people it 984 00:54:42,700 --> 00:54:45,900 was or if it was just one being because again in the Star Wars 985 00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:48,600 universe, You can have beings who live longer than the human 986 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,500 span because they might not even be human. 987 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:56,300 So that's a great parallelism ancillary great was actually 988 00:54:56,300 --> 00:55:02,100 three grow goo, go to Fanning on each other helmet on. 989 00:55:02,100 --> 00:55:04,000 Well, he was the mantle of the really great then. 990 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,700 Yeah. Yeah, I feel great. 991 00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:10,300 I don't know that the species name for Yoda species but I'm 992 00:55:10,300 --> 00:55:12,300 like, well, grow Guru yoga to species. 993 00:55:12,300 --> 00:55:16,000 I can't just say, yoda. These days group was also a Big 994 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:16,700 Field. Yeah. 995 00:55:16,700 --> 00:55:19,000 Just the Yoda species. What we call that there's no 996 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,400 name for them to be positive. Yeah, that's why before side 997 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,000 baby Yoda, we don't know a name for this be part of how the Cami 998 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,700 and poor poor guy bottles, not even mention when I say that. 999 00:55:27,900 --> 00:55:31,600 But, you know, they they're so secretive. 1000 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,700 They don't even people who know the name of their species, but I 1001 00:55:34,700 --> 00:55:40,900 have one Look at that. So let's talk about the 1002 00:55:40,900 --> 00:55:44,200 darksaber as usual since we're dealing with large groups of 1003 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,600 people and even as the Mandalorian Wars with the Jedi 1004 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:52,000 raged on and off for yeon's, a child was born to house vizla 1005 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,000 with notable natural ability in the force. 1006 00:55:55,100 --> 00:55:58,500 He was tarah vizla though. At the time, there was no House 1007 00:55:58,500 --> 00:56:00,900 of Isla. If you're guessing that he 1008 00:56:00,900 --> 00:56:04,900 formed it, you are correct. And if you're guessing that the 1009 00:56:04,900 --> 00:56:06,800 parallel, The darksaber is the sword. 1010 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,800 Blackfyre you are also correct. Give yourself a double pat on 1011 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:16,400 the back, if you did that. Why was tour of Isla the first 1012 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,200 Mandalorian Jedi? Well, your guess is as good as 1013 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,500 mine, or maybe even better or well, whatever. 1014 00:56:22,500 --> 00:56:25,300 You're welcome to guests to, I don't know how good your guess 1015 00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:26,200 is. I haven't heard it. 1016 00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:29,800 It's entirely pie mean. It doesn't really make sense 1017 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,200 that in thousands of years. There have been no other 1018 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,100 mandalorians with for sensitivity but it would make 1019 00:56:36,100 --> 00:56:39,000 sense that they wouldn't develop that and that the Mandalorian 1020 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,800 families would be against that they would look at that as like 1021 00:56:42,900 --> 00:56:46,300 evil or some sort of the Jedi did this. 1022 00:56:46,300 --> 00:56:49,500 They planted this seed in your child and it's going to grow 1023 00:56:49,500 --> 00:56:53,300 into our enemy. So I imagine they looked down on 1024 00:56:53,300 --> 00:56:57,800 this when it happened. But tar vizla, perhaps was For 1025 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,100 whatever reason. No one threw him to the Wolves 1026 00:57:01,100 --> 00:57:05,100 as a child or threw him off a rock or whatever Warrior 1027 00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:07,000 cultures societies do with unwanted children. 1028 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,100 I don't know that the mandalorians actually do this in 1029 00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:12,800 fact Mendler in society is actually very friendly to 1030 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,800 orphans. It's part of their cultural 1031 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,500 belief that if you rescue a young child and you should 1032 00:57:18,500 --> 00:57:21,200 you're responsible for them. You don't. 1033 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,100 Hey, how about that? You're not just responsible for 1034 00:57:24,100 --> 00:57:25,400 their birth. You responsible for taking care 1035 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,100 of them afterwards. What a novel idea? 1036 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:34,500 The so it's unknown, why? But you can see why mandalorians 1037 00:57:34,500 --> 00:57:37,900 didn't become Jedi or develop their Force Powers over time 1038 00:57:37,900 --> 00:57:41,900 because it was an enemy. This was what their enemies do. 1039 00:57:41,900 --> 00:57:45,100 You don't take on the beliefs of your enemies. 1040 00:57:45,300 --> 00:57:49,400 Now, eventually the overtime. So many thousands of years, this 1041 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:54,600 loosened a little bit or maybe some sort of Culmination of 1042 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,100 events happened that allowed our of Isla to not be noticed by the 1043 00:57:58,100 --> 00:58:01,100 powers that be in part, perhaps, because he wasn't born into a 1044 00:58:01,100 --> 00:58:05,300 Noble House, the fact that he was maybe a commoner may have 1045 00:58:05,300 --> 00:58:11,200 helped him Escape notice, but he was initially, but this didn't 1046 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:15,500 happen as an adult for him. It was his family that gave him 1047 00:58:15,500 --> 00:58:18,700 to the Jedi because he was a child, he became an initiate 1048 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,100 like a page. We did that comparison to 1049 00:58:21,107 --> 00:58:23,000 earlier in the episode and he did. 1050 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:27,200 Well, he moved up to his Padawan, you know, Squire and he 1051 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,100 then became a Jedi Knight eventually. 1052 00:58:30,700 --> 00:58:34,600 And this is far into the future from where we were at this point 1053 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,400 in time. The Memphis or was believed to 1054 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,600 be extinct. The skulls remained, the Sigil 1055 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:44,500 of course remains, even now the symbol endured but kind of like 1056 00:58:44,500 --> 00:58:48,200 the post draconic era of the targaryens. 1057 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:53,400 They started to think a little differently because the yes, the 1058 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,600 old ways valuable but the old way included things that no 1059 00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,400 longer exists. So a little bit of change 1060 00:58:59,700 --> 00:59:03,400 filtered through nine thousand years. 1061 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,700 After the formation of the Mandalorian civilization is when 1062 00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:09,200 this happens. So like I said way later, this 1063 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,300 is less than 20 years before the Jedi Temple was built on 1064 00:59:12,300 --> 00:59:16,000 Coruscant and about 1,000 years before characters like mon 1065 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,400 mothma Padme, Amidala Lor San tekka. 1066 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,800 Eka even Babu Frick. All those characters were born 1067 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,900 within a few years of each other, by the way, about half 1068 00:59:23,900 --> 00:59:25,700 the main characters from Rogue one as well. 1069 00:59:25,700 --> 00:59:31,200 Like, chronic and Bay's Malibu bays and cheer it, and all those 1070 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,000 guys. And of course, Anakin Skywalker 1071 00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,600 another important character that universe. 1072 00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,900 So he did something that had grave impact on the future of 1073 00:59:41,900 --> 00:59:46,700 his people while being entirely normal for a Jedi initiate. 1074 00:59:46,700 --> 00:59:48,400 Young tar. Vizla did what? 1075 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,400 tall Jedi, I'd young Jedi, do he made his own lightsaber, but 1076 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,800 seemed it's a normal thing for a Jedi to do, but It turned out to 1077 00:59:56,808 --> 01:00:00,000 be not so normal. It was called the darksaber. 1078 01:00:00,100 --> 01:00:06,000 A lightsaber of literal, black fire ahem, right? 1079 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:07,600 What would you call a lightsaber? 1080 01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:08,800 Which equivalent here? Lightsaber. 1081 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,200 He just tell y IG HT. Yes. 1082 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:15,300 It was a light saber. Yes, unlike other, lightsabers, 1083 01:00:15,300 --> 01:00:17,000 it had a more traditional sword hilt. 1084 01:00:17,100 --> 01:00:20,100 Like, actually like a modern sword hilt and shape while also 1085 01:00:20,100 --> 01:00:23,500 having Mandalorian stylization to it. 1086 01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,000 See what I mean? Look at that parallel, this As I 1087 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,700 said is the thing. I first noticed that got me into 1088 01:00:28,700 --> 01:00:32,700 this Rabbit Hole Blackfire darksaber a sort of black fire. 1089 01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:37,200 Hello, it even has a hilt of Bhaskar so it even makes the 1090 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:38,700 Valyrian steel comp, even tighter. 1091 01:00:40,900 --> 01:00:43,100 So we don't know that much about our business career. 1092 01:00:43,300 --> 01:00:46,100 Unfortunately, it wasn't very long though. 1093 01:00:47,100 --> 01:00:51,400 We do know he went back to Mandalore and formed house vizla 1094 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:56,500 along with clams, Ren and Clan Saxon where he took the shriek 1095 01:00:56,500 --> 01:00:59,300 Hawk as the sigil for house visible. 1096 01:00:59,300 --> 01:01:03,400 By the way, the darksaber also emits a different kind of sound 1097 01:01:04,100 --> 01:01:07,300 than a typical lightsaber. And the sound is kind of like a 1098 01:01:07,308 --> 01:01:09,300 shriek Hawk. It's more of a streaky sound. 1099 01:01:10,700 --> 01:01:15,400 Think of him as you know, think of this guy a warrior culture 1100 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:19,100 that doesn't back down against Jedi that has the powers and 1101 01:01:19,100 --> 01:01:23,500 armaments of a Jedi. So with all his advantages, he 1102 01:01:23,500 --> 01:01:26,800 was The Ultimate Warrior in a warrior culture. 1103 01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,300 Unlike his A Song of Ice and Fire, counterpart, Daemon 1104 01:01:30,300 --> 01:01:34,600 blackfyre, he actually succeeded and became Mandalore, whereas 1105 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,800 Daemon blackfyre was shot with arrows. 1106 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,900 I guess, the equivalent here would have been shot by blasters 1107 01:01:39,900 --> 01:01:43,900 or Poison darts or something to me, man to dead Amanda. 1108 01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:49,300 That's right. Manda not living anymore. 1109 01:01:49,300 --> 01:01:51,500 Yes. So we're not sure by how he 1110 01:01:51,500 --> 01:01:56,800 died, probably fighting because, you know, live by the sword die 1111 01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,500 by the sword. He was dead by the time of the 1112 01:01:59,500 --> 01:02:05,700 fall of the Old Republic, which came only about 18 years after 1113 01:02:05,700 --> 01:02:09,400 he made the darksaber. So Old Republic, quick side 1114 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,700 history here. You've heard of Public probably 1115 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,700 in Star Wars. It's the thing that has just 1116 01:02:14,700 --> 01:02:16,800 Fallen at the beginning of a new hope. 1117 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,900 The first movie that the emperor has just turned it into an 1118 01:02:18,900 --> 01:02:21,100 Empire. The rebels are trying to turn it 1119 01:02:21,100 --> 01:02:24,600 back into a republic. Well the Old Republic was a 1120 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,700 thousand years basically before the Republic you see at the 1121 01:02:27,700 --> 01:02:30,900 beginning of the movies and in between the two there's the high 1122 01:02:30,900 --> 01:02:33,900 Republic which is just the peak of the Republic, right? 1123 01:02:33,900 --> 01:02:37,500 And that's only a few hundred years before the first movies 1124 01:02:37,500 --> 01:02:40,300 you like Yoda is alive and on the Jedi Council. 1125 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,600 Ansel and the high count and the high Republic era. 1126 01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,700 Yeah. And we're going to see a TV show 1127 01:02:44,700 --> 01:02:46,900 called The acolyte that set in that area. 1128 01:02:46,900 --> 01:02:49,200 There's a lot of great books, set their highly recommend the 1129 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,400 light of the Jedi, is the first book in that series that I 1130 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,900 really, really recommend she and I both loved it and that Clyde 1131 01:02:53,900 --> 01:02:56,600 is indeed Star Wars show. I'm most looking forward to. 1132 01:02:56,700 --> 01:02:59,300 Yeah. It's going to focus on Sith 1133 01:02:59,300 --> 01:03:03,800 stuff, so, yeah, anyway, we know all this because after his 1134 01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,500 death, the Jedi Order somehow, got ahold of his darksaber 1135 01:03:08,300 --> 01:03:10,300 either, they either he wasn't killed on. 1136 01:03:10,500 --> 01:03:12,100 And Allure, he died somewhere else. 1137 01:03:12,100 --> 01:03:16,000 Somehow they got the darksaber not other mandalorians and 1138 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:20,300 placed it in the just mentioned, Jedi Temple on Coruscant, that 1139 01:03:20,300 --> 01:03:28,200 was built atop of a Sith Enclave that kind of has like a hinge of 1140 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:32,000 power because it's still emitted like dark power Dark Energy. 1141 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:38,200 The statue of tar of Isla is was placed, he it's the dark side 1142 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,700 was like, placed near him or whatever. / and this statue is 1143 01:03:41,700 --> 01:03:43,400 still standing a thousand years later. 1144 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:48,000 So probably because the Old Republic was collapsing, this 1145 01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,200 probably enabled. What happened next which which 1146 01:03:50,207 --> 01:03:55,000 was that house vizla? Took advantage of the chaos and 1147 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,400 sacked. The Jedi Temple stealing the 1148 01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:01,600 darksaber back for their house and then used it to try to 1149 01:04:02,300 --> 01:04:05,200 conquer Mandalore, they tried to use black fire. 1150 01:04:05,300 --> 01:04:07,900 Early use darksaber like the aegon's. 1151 01:04:08,100 --> 01:04:11,400 The six faction Coddington faction is using black fire to 1152 01:04:11,700 --> 01:04:15,500 probably using black wire to help use it as a symbol of power 1153 01:04:15,500 --> 01:04:18,800 and restore their faction to Greatness. 1154 01:04:19,700 --> 01:04:23,800 So tired of Islam was revered by his house because of His great 1155 01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:29,100 warrior abilities and because he was different and capable and 1156 01:04:29,700 --> 01:04:34,000 well, he evoked a lot of the warrior ethos that make 1157 01:04:34,100 --> 01:04:35,600 mandalorians proud of their people. 1158 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:40,100 The things that they ask that they want to be that they have 1159 01:04:40,100 --> 01:04:44,700 ambition to become So tar visit had not only made house visible, 1160 01:04:44,700 --> 01:04:49,700 he made them a royal house and from then on the symbol of that 1161 01:04:49,700 --> 01:04:53,200 power was the darksaber to some in especially those of house 1162 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,400 vizla. The wielder of the darksaber. 1163 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:59,300 Was the true heir to Mandalore, which isn't really how their 1164 01:04:59,300 --> 01:05:02,500 system worked, was it right there system was the best 1165 01:05:02,500 --> 01:05:04,600 warrior or best fighter should be Mandalore. 1166 01:05:05,300 --> 01:05:08,900 And it also Bears, mentioning that there isn't always a 1167 01:05:08,900 --> 01:05:11,700 Mandalore different times in Mandalorian history. 1168 01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,800 There's just been a bunch of ruling houses that are have 1169 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,300 uneasy pieces or our Wars with each other. 1170 01:05:19,300 --> 01:05:22,400 And there is no one above everyone, think of it like a 1171 01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,700 king-beyond-the-wall. There's lots of Clans tribes 1172 01:05:25,700 --> 01:05:30,000 Beyond the Wall, sometimes a figure emerges, to unite them 1173 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,200 all, like a Mance rayder there isn't always a Mance rayder 1174 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:34,400 though. The sometimes there's just no 1175 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,300 one like that. Occasionally, there's 50 to 100 1176 01:05:37,300 --> 01:05:39,800 years between Kings be Kings Beyond the Wall like that. 1177 01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:43,800 So think of it like that. It works sometimes sometimes it 1178 01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:48,900 didn't their intent was to unite not just Mandalore but house 1179 01:05:48,900 --> 01:05:52,500 vizla and from there once uniting their house, they could 1180 01:05:53,100 --> 01:05:57,400 go on to greater things, but the sword was how they wanted to do 1181 01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,800 this. Not by the former means of 1182 01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:03,000 taking power. So not everyone was on board 1183 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,300 with this bringing us to a state of affairs. 1184 01:06:06,300 --> 01:06:09,600 We found during the original blackfyre rebellion in Westeros, 1185 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:13,300 where some people thought, Aegon the Unworthy giving the sort of 1186 01:06:13,300 --> 01:06:16,900 Daemon blackfyre meant he was the man to rule but not everyone 1187 01:06:16,900 --> 01:06:21,900 agreed with that. So you have Believers verse 1188 01:06:21,900 --> 01:06:25,500 non-believers and eventually it comes to a head and goes to war 1189 01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,300 not unlike some of the things that were about to describe for 1190 01:06:29,300 --> 01:06:37,700 the mandalorians, the house in their way was house, Crees who 1191 01:06:37,700 --> 01:06:41,700 were the royal family of the era in which our next milestone One 1192 01:06:41,700 --> 01:06:45,000 occurs a familiar name, actually, this isn't what they 1193 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:47,100 call it. It's the Doom of Mandalore, they 1194 01:06:47,100 --> 01:06:51,300 call it. The Mandalorian cataclysm, but 1195 01:06:51,300 --> 01:06:53,300 the Doom of valyria was a cataclysm. 1196 01:06:53,300 --> 01:06:55,100 So I'm taking a little liberty and calling it. 1197 01:06:55,100 --> 01:06:57,900 The Doom of Mandalore. They were unable to learn from 1198 01:06:57,900 --> 01:07:00,800 their past shockingly enough just like Westeros cousin 1199 01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,800 learned from the it's past. It just continues to fight and 1200 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,900 fight and fight and have squabbles over the same things. 1201 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,200 The mandalorians is kept fighting the Jedi, just kept 1202 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,100 going, couldn't stop themselves, just couldn't back down. 1203 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:16,800 Thousands of years are passing by while all this is going, they 1204 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,700 turn their society. Becomes more and more geared 1205 01:07:19,700 --> 01:07:23,300 towards war and towards beating this unbeatable foe, more and 1206 01:07:23,300 --> 01:07:27,700 more of the surface of Mandalore is turned into Mining and 1207 01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:31,800 Industrial things that aren't good for human civilization, or 1208 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,600 for animals or trees or any of that strip mining. 1209 01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:39,100 Lots of that they expanded this to the Moon Concordia, this 1210 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:44,000 Mandalore has two moons and Concordia also has best 1211 01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,800 Carmine's and it had trees and stuff. 1212 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,300 So it was like a good place to Actually live was habitable but 1213 01:07:50,300 --> 01:07:55,400 they started to ruin it with their War Machine, just overall 1214 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,400 more and more of their culture became part of this war machine. 1215 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:01,900 Dedicated to defeating a photo that kind of wasn't beatable, 1216 01:08:02,100 --> 01:08:06,800 think of the Endless attempts by the Blackfriars to beat the 1217 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,400 targaryens. When really, I wouldn't say they 1218 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,500 were in beatable because the Blackfriars got close a couple 1219 01:08:11,500 --> 01:08:14,700 times, but some of the times it wasn't particularly close at. 1220 01:08:14,700 --> 01:08:16,300 All right. The second blackfyre rebellion 1221 01:08:16,300 --> 01:08:21,500 and wasn't even really call Dad. Rebellion the fourth they barely 1222 01:08:21,500 --> 01:08:24,800 got past Landing, right? So you can see how there's some 1223 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,300 similarities here in terms of the helplessness of there, cause 1224 01:08:27,300 --> 01:08:28,899 that they just would not give up. 1225 01:08:30,500 --> 01:08:35,500 At some point though the Jedi perhaps tired of the Endless 1226 01:08:35,500 --> 01:08:39,800 Wars perhaps wondering if it's ever going to end perhaps 1227 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:43,300 thinking ahead also because the Jedi were dealing with a bigger 1228 01:08:43,300 --> 01:08:49,000 enemy. Mandalorians were a fierce foe 1229 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:53,100 despite the Jedis Advantage but the Jedi started having back and 1230 01:08:53,100 --> 01:08:55,500 forth Wars with the Sith. The Sith are. 1231 01:08:55,500 --> 01:08:57,100 If you're not super familiar with Star Wars is that they're 1232 01:08:57,100 --> 01:09:02,500 basically the bad guy Jedi's. They have Force Powers as well. 1233 01:09:02,500 --> 01:09:06,300 But these Force Powers manifest differently because there's 1234 01:09:06,300 --> 01:09:08,500 different emotions in play as one of the things I really like 1235 01:09:08,500 --> 01:09:11,399 about Star Wars is how remote your emotional state determines, 1236 01:09:11,399 --> 01:09:13,200 what you can do, it's like George. 1237 01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:17,000 Lucas took the worst things about humans that enable them to 1238 01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:21,899 rise to power in government and in the world and says, no, it's 1239 01:09:21,899 --> 01:09:28,200 not there, it's not there. Skill that enables them to rise 1240 01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,500 this. Hi, it's their attempt for 1241 01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:31,899 humans. It's their anger, it's their 1242 01:09:31,899 --> 01:09:34,399 rage. It's their ability to not have a 1243 01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:36,500 conscious. That's how certain people rise 1244 01:09:36,500 --> 01:09:38,399 to power in our world today and George. 1245 01:09:38,399 --> 01:09:42,200 Lucas wanted to shine a light on that is a, yeah, he inverted. 1246 01:09:42,899 --> 01:09:45,700 The power structure to show what's behind it, all yet. 1247 01:09:45,700 --> 01:09:50,000 This is evil emotions, right? I really think it's cool. 1248 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:54,800 Now, the Jedi, perhaps because they were dealing with the Sith 1249 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,700 were like, well, we got to deal with these mandalorians once and 1250 01:09:57,700 --> 01:10:00,600 for all because we've got a photo that is capable of beating 1251 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,200 us. We can't be fighting them both 1252 01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,300 at the same time. I'm just guessing I don't 1253 01:10:04,300 --> 01:10:08,200 actually know what happens. No one does but some big battle 1254 01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:12,700 happened on Mandalore itself between the Jedi and the 1255 01:10:12,708 --> 01:10:17,800 Defenders, and it caused some kind of not entirely understood 1256 01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:19,700 cataclysm to take place. Kind of like the Doom of 1257 01:10:19,700 --> 01:10:21,400 valyria, we're not entirely, sure what happened. 1258 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:25,700 We know the result of volcanoes blew up and it took out the 1259 01:10:25,700 --> 01:10:28,700 whole And basically, here it was similar. 1260 01:10:28,700 --> 01:10:33,400 The planet didn't become uninhabitable but much of it did 1261 01:10:33,500 --> 01:10:36,900 much of the planet became a lifeless, white desert thing 1262 01:10:36,900 --> 01:10:40,000 kind of like a combo of the disputed lands, with the Doom of 1263 01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:43,400 valyria. So something in between that 1264 01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:47,000 Dome cities, had to be built, they couldn't breathe air as 1265 01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,800 much anymore. By the way, side note, even a 1266 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,300 lot of Star Wars fans won't know this one. 1267 01:10:52,500 --> 01:10:57,100 George Lucas originally planned a much larger Doom for Mandalore 1268 01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,900 the Death Star, which destroyed Alderaan, you know, Princess 1269 01:11:01,900 --> 01:11:04,700 Leia's home richly. His plan was for it to destroy 1270 01:11:04,700 --> 01:11:07,900 Mandalore, instead of Alderaan. He changed his mind on that, it 1271 01:11:07,900 --> 01:11:10,900 would make sense to take out this Warrior culture to, you 1272 01:11:10,900 --> 01:11:13,500 know, as a statement to, for to the Galaxy to be like, look, 1273 01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,800 we're destroying this people, the greatest warriors of the 1274 01:11:17,808 --> 01:11:20,500 Galaxy. That's how I people would see it 1275 01:11:20,500 --> 01:11:22,100 with. Just one are super weapon and 1276 01:11:22,100 --> 01:11:24,000 that will boy, does that make a statement? 1277 01:11:24,300 --> 01:11:26,500 Still made a big statement, destroying Alderaan and it had 1278 01:11:26,500 --> 01:11:28,800 the stakes for Princess. Leia are much higher that way. 1279 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,900 Either way, after this cataclysm magic, sleigh, it was raised 1280 01:11:32,900 --> 01:11:37,100 with Mandalorian. Whoa, we both see ya Florian. 1281 01:11:37,700 --> 01:11:41,800 Yeah, that would be pretty cool. Mandala she would be called, hmm 1282 01:11:42,100 --> 01:11:45,000 and what her brother also, Amanda Luke and Mandalay are you 1283 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:46,800 and me right now? He wouldn't be, he's too cool. 1284 01:11:47,900 --> 01:11:50,700 He's got a different path. So Mandalore was literally 1285 01:11:50,700 --> 01:11:52,700 incapable of mounting a threat anymore. 1286 01:11:52,700 --> 01:11:55,900 They were just too weak at the after that, they weren't a 1287 01:11:55,900 --> 01:12:00,000 galactic threat anymore. Almost like how valyria Was no 1288 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,600 longer a threat to anyone. They stop being a big player. 1289 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:06,700 I'm on the world scale. It seems that there was no one 1290 01:12:06,700 --> 01:12:09,300 with the title Mandalore during the candle cataclysm. 1291 01:12:09,700 --> 01:12:12,400 It was one of those times where variety of Warlords had taken 1292 01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:15,100 power, which may be why things got so out of hand, which would 1293 01:12:15,100 --> 01:12:17,800 be why maybe the Jedi didn't think there was any negotiation, 1294 01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,100 that could be done, because there was no singular ruler to 1295 01:12:20,100 --> 01:12:22,300 negotiate with the other Warlords. 1296 01:12:22,300 --> 01:12:27,000 Wouldn't respect any sort of pact with with the Jedi because 1297 01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,000 they're not United with each other. 1298 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:33,200 Let alone With their enemies. We prayer, pretty sure how 1299 01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:37,000 screes may have was take. It was in control after this, or 1300 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:40,000 regain control after losing it to these various Warlords. 1301 01:12:40,300 --> 01:12:42,300 And this is an important point, because we're talking about 1302 01:12:42,300 --> 01:12:45,700 symbols of legit, is legitimacy going forward. 1303 01:12:46,100 --> 01:12:51,200 And further Civil War. Yes, further Civil War among the 1304 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,000 mandalorians. Well, it's really not. 1305 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,700 That surprising is it. Westeros is always just a drop 1306 01:12:57,700 --> 01:12:59,500 of a hat away from Civil War itself. 1307 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,100 Right. And there's been so many civil 1308 01:13:02,100 --> 01:13:05,200 wars fought across the entire continent or just within certain 1309 01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,100 regions. Sometimes the reach is gone to 1310 01:13:07,100 --> 01:13:09,700 war against itself with civil conflict. 1311 01:13:09,700 --> 01:13:11,800 So, of most of the other regions, right? 1312 01:13:12,300 --> 01:13:17,800 Probably all of them actually, but lo and behold after so much 1313 01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,500 war after so much destruction, especially on their home. 1314 01:13:20,500 --> 01:13:24,900 Planet being confronted with a directly mental or in society. 1315 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:29,100 Finally, fractured a bit in a peace movement, arose. 1316 01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,400 Of the most prominent of the new Dome cities was the host of this 1317 01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,100 movement as city called Sun Dari. 1318 01:13:35,100 --> 01:13:38,200 Not to be confused with sunspear ha but of course, plenty of 1319 01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:39,900 Hardcore. Traditionalist did not want 1320 01:13:39,900 --> 01:13:41,500 peace at all. They were still stuck in their 1321 01:13:41,500 --> 01:13:44,400 old ways. It's also sort of goes against 1322 01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:45,900 their rule, by the strongest Vibe. 1323 01:13:45,900 --> 01:13:48,700 How do you choose a ruler of monks, the strongest when you're 1324 01:13:48,700 --> 01:13:51,200 all pacifists, right? It doesn't really fit. 1325 01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,300 This is very much, the competing ideals of daeron the good versus 1326 01:13:55,300 --> 01:13:58,500 Daemon blackfyre. 'S faction Progressive piece 1327 01:13:59,100 --> 01:14:02,600 versus the old way and good. Except the old way, could also 1328 01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,200 be applied to thinking the ironborn. 1329 01:14:04,300 --> 01:14:07,700 Who literally use that phrase. Asha was trying to get them to 1330 01:14:07,700 --> 01:14:08,700 move. Along a bit. 1331 01:14:08,700 --> 01:14:11,500 Say look, we keep losing. Why do we keep losing? 1332 01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,000 Why do we keep trying the same thing over and over? 1333 01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,600 That doesn't work. Let's do something different and 1334 01:14:22,608 --> 01:14:26,200 they're like, ah, shut up Asha. We're gonna keep losing. 1335 01:14:28,100 --> 01:14:32,400 Thus, this split happened amongst the mandalorians, the 1336 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:36,600 great Clan Wars came about. About and the people were 1337 01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:40,100 divided into two simple categories, new and old 1338 01:14:40,100 --> 01:14:44,800 mandalorians house. Crees led the new pacifistic 1339 01:14:44,900 --> 01:14:47,800 mandalorians but they weren't fully pacifistic because they 1340 01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,800 had to fight the old mandalorians in some cases. 1341 01:14:51,100 --> 01:14:53,600 Most of the old man, learns didn't fight their fellows. 1342 01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,400 They still a lot of Mandalorian, still thought it taboo to fight 1343 01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,600 amongst themselves or found it distasteful. 1344 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,800 So some of them just went off to become sellswords, well, sell 1345 01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,200 blasters, sell jet packs, I don't know. 1346 01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,400 But think of exactly what happened to the people on the 1347 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:11,800 losing side of the blackfyre blowing. 1348 01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,700 A lot of them went off to become sellswords until being formed 1349 01:15:14,700 --> 01:15:17,500 into one particular sellsword company, the golden company. 1350 01:15:19,300 --> 01:15:24,200 Now, Duke Adonai Crees led the new mandalorians at the outset 1351 01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,600 of the war which is why we think that his house was predominant 1352 01:15:27,700 --> 01:15:30,700 but he was killed in one of the first battles may have been the 1353 01:15:30,708 --> 01:15:38,400 first battle. And his daughter Duchess Satine 1354 01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:41,300 takes over. She's very much, a dare on The 1355 01:15:41,300 --> 01:15:47,800 Good, Very pacifistic, and very Progressive and very determined 1356 01:15:48,100 --> 01:15:51,700 and hated by the people that wanted to keep the old ways, 1357 01:15:51,700 --> 01:15:56,900 hated by the equivalence of the black fires, which are the old 1358 01:15:56,900 --> 01:16:01,100 mandalorians, and some factions that emerged from that, which 1359 01:16:01,100 --> 01:16:06,500 we'll get to The Mandalorian protectors, the kingsguard 1360 01:16:06,500 --> 01:16:12,500 equivalent were on her side, at least for a while and the Jedi 1361 01:16:12,500 --> 01:16:19,300 came to help because they joined the Republic as a week, former 1362 01:16:19,300 --> 01:16:22,500 power. They were no longer well 1363 01:16:22,500 --> 01:16:26,100 equipped to be neutral. So they joined the Republic, 1364 01:16:26,100 --> 01:16:29,100 which again was also wasn't very popular amongst a lot of 1365 01:16:29,100 --> 01:16:31,700 Mandalorian hardliners and old-school thinkers. 1366 01:16:33,100 --> 01:16:39,700 One of predictably, her opponents was house vizla who 1367 01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:44,800 with the darksaber led the Rebellion against this new way, 1368 01:16:44,900 --> 01:16:46,100 probably as their leaders though? 1369 01:16:46,100 --> 01:16:49,400 It's not entirely clear. They lose though, just like the 1370 01:16:49,407 --> 01:16:52,300 Blackfriars. Lost the house. 1371 01:16:52,300 --> 01:16:58,100 Visible lost this challenge to house, Crees And the Victory is 1372 01:16:58,100 --> 01:17:04,000 complete, at least temporarily and the old mandalorians who 1373 01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:07,700 hadn't already fled and went elsewhere and become sellswords. 1374 01:17:07,700 --> 01:17:13,500 What happened were exiled to the Moon of Concordia, sort of, like 1375 01:17:13,500 --> 01:17:17,600 being exiled to essos, right? So a lot of the old men learns 1376 01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:21,300 did nothing at first but some of them eventually started to get 1377 01:17:21,300 --> 01:17:24,300 back into the swing of things and start to become ambitious 1378 01:17:24,300 --> 01:17:27,600 again, further angered by the peace movement. 1379 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:32,300 Further upset by the what they saw is abandoning what made 1380 01:17:32,300 --> 01:17:33,900 their people great in the first place. 1381 01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,000 Some of them formed the group Death watch. 1382 01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:41,900 Now, this came after a lot of folks, back on Mandalore thought 1383 01:17:41,900 --> 01:17:45,400 they had died out, kind of like thinking, John Connie. 1384 01:17:45,500 --> 01:17:48,000 Then it died out thinking all these Exiles were gone. 1385 01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,700 Oops, not so true. But another parallel, here's a 1386 01:17:51,700 --> 01:17:55,100 quote. We are the Death Watch, 1387 01:17:55,100 --> 01:17:57,400 descendants of the true warrior Faith. 1388 01:17:57,500 --> 01:18:00,700 All mandalorians. Once knew now, my people are 1389 01:18:00,700 --> 01:18:04,800 living in Exile because we will not abandon Our Heritage. 1390 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:09,600 Our people were warriors, strong feared. 1391 01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:16,000 This is pre Vizsla speaking, and I can just hear these words 1392 01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,600 coming from bitter steals mouth. Instead of we are Death, Watch, 1393 01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,400 we are the golden company descendants of the true warrior 1394 01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,000 Faith or you. Talking about black fires and 1395 01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,100 this and that talking about Exile, talking about not 1396 01:18:27,100 --> 01:18:29,000 abandoning Our Heritage because that's what they want. 1397 01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,300 They want to reclaim the throne and they're lost lands. 1398 01:18:31,300 --> 01:18:34,500 They want their Heritage back. Such golden company. 1399 01:18:34,500 --> 01:18:39,900 But even, there's even a group of one of the groups of the of 1400 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,600 the Mandalorian protectors like the kingsguard equivalent. 1401 01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,800 They were so low for a while and they even took skulls on right 1402 01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:47,900 and death. Watch versus the golden company 1403 01:18:47,900 --> 01:18:50,900 skulls. I mean Hello, very similar Vibes 1404 01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:54,500 also think of Sir Eustace here, think of you Justus just 1405 01:18:54,500 --> 01:18:59,000 lamenting the loss of warrior culture, you know, old sad man 1406 01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:03,600 talking to Duncan egg. This is this is the same Vibes 1407 01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,200 right here, as well as the following blackfyre Rebellion. 1408 01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,100 They kept trying and kept failing. 1409 01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:14,400 So previz, Le plots to overthrow house, Kris, he rises to become 1410 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:18,800 governor of Concordia and claims to be helping root out. 1411 01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,800 Deathwatch, he's like, I'm going to help root out these 1412 01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,000 terrorists because Death Watch be, basically became a terrorist 1413 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:29,300 group and he's joined in this covert doubled, two-faced 1414 01:19:29,300 --> 01:19:33,600 operation by none other than Satine, kryze has sister, Boca 1415 01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:37,600 tan XI. Oh yeah, yeah yes, yes Duchess 1416 01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,100 Satine yes. Duchess Satine. 1417 01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:42,900 I mean, yeah. And the Jon connington Vibes a 1418 01:19:42,907 --> 01:19:44,400 really strong with pre Vizsla to. 1419 01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,700 Because in order to achieve his goals previz Le allies himself 1420 01:19:47,700 --> 01:19:49,600 with Death Watch. Meaning you like the golden 1421 01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,400 company and with some people who he probably shouldn't just like 1422 01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,700 Jon connington, probably shouldn't be trusting Varys and 1423 01:19:55,700 --> 01:19:59,200 illyrio pre Vizsla shouldn't be trusting the people that he's 1424 01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,700 about to trust because when powerful houses or factions hate 1425 01:20:02,700 --> 01:20:05,800 each other, there's always some little finger, some virus who's 1426 01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,900 out there capable of using that as leverage of taking your hate 1427 01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,300 and and manipulating it into his own benefit. 1428 01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:19,000 Enter the Clone Wars, the Clone Wars were much larger conflict 1429 01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:24,600 between two elements of the Republic that split, there's the 1430 01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:28,300 separatists and the Republic. Now this eventually is going to 1431 01:20:28,308 --> 01:20:30,800 become the Empire of course. But this is before that, this 1432 01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:35,800 was part of Palpatine's plan to split the Republican to and use 1433 01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,200 the emergency to seize power Etc. 1434 01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:44,700 He manipulates Count Dooku, who in turn manipulates previz, Le 1435 01:20:44,700 --> 01:20:47,700 to help overthrow Duchess Satine both were using the other. 1436 01:20:47,700 --> 01:20:50,500 It's like a chain of people using other people Palpatine's 1437 01:20:50,500 --> 01:20:53,500 using Dooku has no intent of giving him anything in the We're 1438 01:20:53,500 --> 01:20:55,800 Dooku is using Bissell. Has no intent of giving him 1439 01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,200 anything in the long run. Meanwhile, vizla is using 1440 01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:02,300 Duchess Satine. Plant a stating, he's helping 1441 01:21:02,300 --> 01:21:04,000 her while, actually working directly against her. 1442 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,800 He is the, he's the, he's the harpy, he's the harpy behind 1443 01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:12,900 the, the terrorist acts here. So the plan was to get an 1444 01:21:12,900 --> 01:21:17,500 occupation of Mandalore by incriminating Satine The 1445 01:21:17,500 --> 01:21:20,300 Duchess, they're going to try to plot to make it look like she's 1446 01:21:20,300 --> 01:21:23,700 helping the separatists, meaning, the Republic will, then 1447 01:21:23,700 --> 01:21:27,400 look at Mandalore who was just join their public as a problem 1448 01:21:27,900 --> 01:21:30,900 and thus, not help them and incriminate them in these 1449 01:21:30,900 --> 01:21:35,400 issues. By the way, dinge aren, the main 1450 01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:39,100 character of the Mandalorian was rescued by Death Watch from 1451 01:21:39,100 --> 01:21:41,300 separatist forces. That's what happened. 1452 01:21:41,300 --> 01:21:44,400 When he was an orphan, which I don't think any Star Wars 1453 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:52,200 channel is pointed this out. Death Watch was rescued dinge 1454 01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,600 are in from separatist forces. As I just explained, they were 1455 01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,800 working together. The Death Watch was actually on 1456 01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:02,100 the side of the separatists through Dooku and pre Vizsla, 1457 01:22:02,100 --> 01:22:04,900 but they were only acting like enemies. 1458 01:22:05,100 --> 01:22:08,900 So, didn't jar ins association with Death Watch. 1459 01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,500 Is built on a lie, they were actually. 1460 01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:16,400 The reason he was an orphan not the, as much as they were the 1461 01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,500 reason he was saved but that's a Side Story. 1462 01:22:18,500 --> 01:22:20,300 Just thought I'd be fun to point that out. 1463 01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,700 So eventually though, previously was exposed as the leader of 1464 01:22:23,700 --> 01:22:26,500 Death Watch and forced into further Exile, he wasn't 1465 01:22:26,500 --> 01:22:32,400 executed was allowed to live. And now we're post visit, we're 1466 01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:38,200 post vizla now Death, Watch began act. 1467 01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:42,700 Like what we see in Westeros. When like a sellsword company 1468 01:22:42,700 --> 01:22:47,200 becomes broken men, they even enslaved a village and forced 1469 01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:50,700 their women into unspeakable acts and did all sorts of evil 1470 01:22:50,700 --> 01:22:54,900 stuff. Then they teamed up with none 1471 01:22:54,900 --> 01:22:57,400 other than Darth Maul and his brother. 1472 01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:04,600 Who again we have two sides joining based on a common 1473 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:06,700 grievance. Their grievance is against 1474 01:23:06,700 --> 01:23:08,200 Palpatine, who screwed them both. 1475 01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,600 Look how much Darth Maul looks like TV night King. 1476 01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:16,300 If you want another parallel night King is like if Darth Maul 1477 01:23:16,300 --> 01:23:18,900 was blue instead of black and red, right? 1478 01:23:18,900 --> 01:23:22,000 It's really simple with horns on his head, I mean Hello very 1479 01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,000 similar. Now, Darth Maul and his brother 1480 01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:30,000 were like crime Lords. They formed a bunch of crime 1481 01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:34,000 syndicates into one called The Shadow Collective and this was 1482 01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:37,500 going to be the backbone of the army to back deathwatch. 1483 01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:42,800 A lot like the ninepenny Kings. Darth Maul has a lot in common 1484 01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:46,100 with maelys. The Monstrous here, and another 1485 01:23:46,100 --> 01:23:49,900 Peril exists because one of the many criminal groups that made 1486 01:23:49,900 --> 01:23:52,600 up Shadow Collective, was The pyke Syndicate and yes. 1487 01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:56,300 Pike. Ike is spelled p YK e just like 1488 01:23:56,700 --> 01:24:01,900 the ironborn spike so they Unleashed and they're very good 1489 01:24:01,900 --> 01:24:04,600 at it because it's a criminal organization terrorism on the 1490 01:24:04,608 --> 01:24:07,100 Mandalorian people just like the sons of the harpy. 1491 01:24:07,100 --> 01:24:11,100 They targeted police officers, Secret Service, they targeted 1492 01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:15,700 officials of the new regime and made it like you need us. 1493 01:24:16,300 --> 01:24:19,600 The death won't stop until you accept us again. 1494 01:24:19,700 --> 01:24:24,800 Basically the murders. I won't stop until you marry his 1495 01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:26,900 daughters. Oh, Lorac is very much like 1496 01:24:26,900 --> 01:24:31,100 that. Death Watch, then swoops in and 1497 01:24:31,100 --> 01:24:33,000 rescues. The Mandalorian people from the 1498 01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,800 terrorists like I just said, didn't jar and thought he was 1499 01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,400 were being rescued. But in fact, it was actually a 1500 01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,700 setup. This is exactly virus Emily 1501 01:24:41,700 --> 01:24:43,900 Rios. Plan for egg on the sixth, he's 1502 01:24:43,900 --> 01:24:46,700 going to come in with all the trappings of Targaryen power 1503 01:24:46,700 --> 01:24:50,000 including black fire and probably aegon's Crown maybe 1504 01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:53,800 with a Dane at his side and acting like rhaegar's son. 1505 01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:57,600 He's gonna be the hero that rescues them the westerosi 1506 01:24:57,700 --> 01:25:01,300 People from the Dothraki or the Civil Wars, or whatever happens 1507 01:25:01,300 --> 01:25:04,200 to be the thing they need rescuing from, it's going to 1508 01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:08,300 look like a hero and that's going to be his leverage to 1509 01:25:08,300 --> 01:25:11,100 power. That's exactly what death watch 1510 01:25:11,100 --> 01:25:14,400 with the backing of Count Dooku and threw him Palpatine had 1511 01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:18,300 mine. However, the plan was foiled 1512 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:26,100 initially and that's actually I'm getting a little confused 1513 01:25:26,100 --> 01:25:29,400 here that that plan was foiled. Before when pre visible was 1514 01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:31,000 defeated, the first time this time, they were a lot more 1515 01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:34,900 prepared and it works. Pretty visible, actually wins. 1516 01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:39,200 And is named Mandalore and is the king. 1517 01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:41,200 Who is bearing the sword at this point? 1518 01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:44,400 He's still got dark. The darksaber Duchess Satine is 1519 01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,800 imprisoned. And then, of course, because 1520 01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:50,300 these guys are all jerks previously immediately turns on 1521 01:25:50,300 --> 01:25:55,100 Darth Maul and has him imprisoned but Darth Maul, Is a 1522 01:25:55,108 --> 01:25:58,300 Sith Lord, he's got Force Powers, he's not so easy to 1523 01:25:58,300 --> 01:26:00,100 defeat. He's more like, tar of Isla. 1524 01:26:00,100 --> 01:26:02,900 Then pre Vizsla is even even though, previously, as a 1525 01:26:02,907 --> 01:26:06,300 descendant of tar, vizla, Darth Maul's got the force Powers. 1526 01:26:06,500 --> 01:26:10,700 He challenges pre Vizsla to single combat for leadership 1527 01:26:10,700 --> 01:26:12,800 again. This is shades of maelys. 1528 01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:16,500 The Monstrous, Who challenged his cousin Daemon blackfyre. 1529 01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:20,000 Damon the third or fourth. I'm not sure which Daemon 1530 01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,200 blackfyre. This was, but he killed Daemon 1531 01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:27,100 blackfyre for Worship of the golden company just as Darth 1532 01:26:27,100 --> 01:26:35,700 Maul beheads pre Vizsla and claims leadership of Mandalore 1533 01:26:36,100 --> 01:26:39,400 all the mandalorians because he's now the wielder of the 1534 01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,000 darksaber. Whoops. 1535 01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:45,200 Look what you've done mandalorians, you hoisted on 1536 01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:48,500 your own petard. You establish this sword as a 1537 01:26:48,500 --> 01:26:51,800 symbol of leadership and all of a sudden, a real bad guy comes 1538 01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:54,900 in someone worse than previz Allure comes in and It claims it 1539 01:26:54,900 --> 01:26:57,800 and says, hey, I'm King now. He doesn't use the word king of 1540 01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:02,600 course, same difference. And a lot of men to learns like. 1541 01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:07,700 Yep, that's how it works. He won the sword in single 1542 01:27:07,700 --> 01:27:10,400 combat. He even cut previz. 1543 01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,100 Liz head off with the darksaber, he disarmed him and then 1544 01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:17,000 executed him with his own sword just to emphasize his victory 1545 01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:20,800 and make a big statement Death Watch. 1546 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:22,900 Most of Death Watch sticks with Darth Maul. 1547 01:27:22,900 --> 01:27:25,600 They put horns on their helmets to vike. 1548 01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:27,700 Real life Vikings didn't have horns on their helmets. 1549 01:27:27,700 --> 01:27:31,700 But these guys did and they took Took on Darth Maul's colors so 1550 01:27:31,700 --> 01:27:34,600 they look pretty Sinister. And Darth Maul's colors are red 1551 01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:38,600 and black y'all pretty familiar Targaryen Blackfire stuff. 1552 01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:43,800 Somewhere during the Clone Wars. By the way, as you saw in the 1553 01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:47,200 movies, if you saw the movies Mace Windu, that's Samuel. 1554 01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:51,700 L Jackson. Jedi kills, Jango Fett, who was 1555 01:27:51,700 --> 01:27:57,100 the Clone seed for all the Stormtrooper clones and that's 1556 01:27:57,100 --> 01:28:00,400 why Boba Fett hates Jedi as well because a Jedi killed his 1557 01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:02,600 father. So we see the Mandalorian Jedi 1558 01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:06,500 hatred in modern times as well. It's just a recurring thing. 1559 01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:12,800 Boca tan Crees remember, The teens sister who fought against 1560 01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,300 her is now having second thoughts. 1561 01:28:15,300 --> 01:28:16,900 She doesn't accept, Darth Maul's rule. 1562 01:28:16,900 --> 01:28:20,000 She's one of the first people to be like, oops, this was not what 1563 01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:21,900 we wanted. We didn't intend this at all. 1564 01:28:21,900 --> 01:28:24,300 We wanted to restore our old values. 1565 01:28:24,300 --> 01:28:26,600 This guy does not reflect our old values. 1566 01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,400 He kind of used a loophole a technicality to take power. 1567 01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:34,100 They liberate Satine from prison, and ask the Republic for 1568 01:28:34,100 --> 01:28:38,900 help, but Mandalore had become neutral during the Clone Wars 1569 01:28:38,900 --> 01:28:42,500 because because Of the events of this being blamed for separatist 1570 01:28:42,500 --> 01:28:45,000 helped and all that. And they didn't want to be 1571 01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:47,500 embroiled after having suffered so much destruction. 1572 01:28:47,500 --> 01:28:49,400 So, this kind of backfired a little because the Republic's 1573 01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:54,300 like, look, we can't help you. You guys went neutral on us but 1574 01:28:54,700 --> 01:28:58,500 because of personal friendships, Obi-Wan Kenobi comes to help. 1575 01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:03,000 He was actually maybe even in love with Duchess Satine. 1576 01:29:03,100 --> 01:29:04,600 Yeah, they're real ship together. 1577 01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:09,700 They are real ship but Mall foils this plot and azra. 1578 01:29:09,900 --> 01:29:15,300 Eng, he executes, Duchess Satine for them, making this attempt. 1579 01:29:15,300 --> 01:29:22,300 So think of Circe, executing missandei in Game of Thrones TV 1580 01:29:22,300 --> 01:29:24,200 show, kind of like that. There's probably another 1581 01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:26,200 equivalent in the books but I can't think of one off top my 1582 01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:31,700 head and mall is that at that point miles power rises even 1583 01:29:31,700 --> 01:29:33,400 higher? You may be wondering, like, what 1584 01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:35,600 is the timeline of this wasn't Darth Maul. 1585 01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,200 Already killed by Obi-Wan Kenobi. 1586 01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:39,700 At this point in the Star Wars timeline. 1587 01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,300 Yes. But if you saw saw the movie Han 1588 01:29:42,300 --> 01:29:46,700 Solo, you would know that Darth Maul survived being cut in half. 1589 01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:50,500 He has like spider legs. And, you know, Force powers are 1590 01:29:50,508 --> 01:29:53,900 part of how he stayed alive and his pure hatred kept him alive. 1591 01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,700 Just the anger of being defeated make kept him alive. 1592 01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:06,700 So he but he was kicked out of his mentorship of by Palpatine 1593 01:30:06,700 --> 01:30:07,700 Palpatine. Didn't want him anymore. 1594 01:30:07,700 --> 01:30:11,100 He had moved on to do couch. Who was also a Just a temporary 1595 01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:19,500 until Anakin but that's a whole nother story. so, Palpatine's. 1596 01:30:19,500 --> 01:30:22,700 Like, all right, you're still around mall. 1597 01:30:22,700 --> 01:30:25,100 I thought you were dead and I was done with you. 1598 01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:27,800 He didn't like the malls, gaining power again. 1599 01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:33,100 So he comes in by himself kills malls, brother, and defeat small 1600 01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:36,300 captures him. Tortures him puts him in prison 1601 01:30:36,300 --> 01:30:40,300 holds him there and I'm not entirely sure what he wanted to 1602 01:30:40,308 --> 01:30:44,600 get out of him by torturing him, but it's Emperor Palpatine. 1603 01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:48,100 He's an evil guy, may have just been something to do for fun. 1604 01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:51,900 Fun. Now, a Sith crushing a Sith in 1605 01:30:51,900 --> 01:30:55,200 this case because once it is just way more powerful than the 1606 01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:59,200 other, is kind of like, what we expect Danny to do to a 1607 01:30:59,208 --> 01:31:02,500 Targaryen without dragons, Targaryen with dragons, versus 1608 01:31:02,500 --> 01:31:06,100 are going without dragons. Like you kind of, don't think 1609 01:31:06,100 --> 01:31:10,600 it'll be much of a contest, but because Palpatine didn't kill, 1610 01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,700 Darth Maul, and kept him in prison and because Darth Maul 1611 01:31:13,700 --> 01:31:17,800 had so many hardcore, loyalists, who believed, because of 1612 01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:20,200 Mandalore Lori and values that he's their real leader. 1613 01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:23,500 He is the guy that won. So he's the wielder of the 1614 01:31:23,500 --> 01:31:26,000 darksaber US. He's our leader, that's how it 1615 01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:28,400 goes. They broke him out of prison. 1616 01:31:28,500 --> 01:31:32,100 I mean Palpatine's got a lot going on right? 1617 01:31:32,100 --> 01:31:34,900 He's got he's busy trying to start an Empire here. 1618 01:31:35,900 --> 01:31:40,200 And he returns to Mandalore reclaims. 1619 01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:45,200 Power starts to build back up. Again, Boca Tanning arrives with 1620 01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:48,000 help from the new Republic that has. 1621 01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:55,400 Since we defeated the separatists and the siege of 1622 01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:59,900 Mandalore happens, Darth Maul is captured again. 1623 01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:03,100 The siege of Mandalore led by Boca tan and the new Republic 1624 01:32:03,100 --> 01:32:08,700 elements and Bogut and is named. Regions, so she Rises to power 1625 01:32:08,700 --> 01:32:13,000 here. She's named Regent after the 1626 01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:17,600 separatists are defeated. But before Palpatine's master, 1627 01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,500 plan is complete of flipping the Republican to the Empire. 1628 01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:25,500 So while Boca Tanning is reagent for the new Republic. 1629 01:32:25,500 --> 01:32:30,400 She finds herself now region under Imperial occupation 1630 01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:34,100 because the power that was in charge flipped while she was in 1631 01:32:34,100 --> 01:32:38,700 this office She refuses to cooperate with the new Imperial 1632 01:32:38,700 --> 01:32:42,300 occupation there, like ordering her to round people up and send 1633 01:32:42,300 --> 01:32:44,900 them best. Guard is asking her, to have her 1634 01:32:44,900 --> 01:32:48,300 people do things that are very much against their virtues, what 1635 01:32:48,300 --> 01:32:51,000 but are very normal for the Imperials, the Imperials turn a 1636 01:32:51,008 --> 01:32:54,100 lot of Worlds into just mining operations, just part of the war 1637 01:32:54,100 --> 01:32:57,100 machine, which the mandalorians were kind of already used to, 1638 01:32:57,100 --> 01:32:59,800 but they had gotten sick of it, like our we've already turned 1639 01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:04,800 our world into a war machine, all these years and It's we kind 1640 01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:06,600 of had enough of that. Our planet certainly had enough 1641 01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:13,200 of that she's betrayed by one of the one of the people from her 1642 01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:16,000 own house or rather. Sorry from house vizla. 1643 01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:19,400 One of Mi, loyalist one of the people who broke him out of 1644 01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:25,100 prison, a guy named gar Saxon gar, Saxon, makes a deal with 1645 01:33:25,100 --> 01:33:29,500 the Empire, to overthrow Boca 10 and he's named Imperial Viceroy 1646 01:33:29,500 --> 01:33:33,800 and familiar title. The Emperor's hand Kind of like 1647 01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:36,200 end of the king. Obviously, he opens an Imperial 1648 01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:38,400 War Academy. They're, they're like, what 1649 01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:40,200 better place to open a war Academy? 1650 01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:43,700 Amongst a people that are known for their martial virtues? 1651 01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:48,400 However, another element within house vizla Clan. 1652 01:33:48,500 --> 01:33:51,000 Ren, comes to the fore member house. 1653 01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:54,200 Visible is made up of Clan, Ren, Clan, Saxon, and Clan Visual and 1654 01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:59,200 maybe other houses as well. Now Clan Ren at this point the 1655 01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:02,200 focal character is Sabine Wren not to be confused with Satine 1656 01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:05,500 creason. Be not Satine, Sabine grew up, 1657 01:34:05,500 --> 01:34:09,400 idolizing tar of Isla, she visited the statue when she was 1658 01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:11,400 young. Keep in mind, this wouldn't have 1659 01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:15,700 happened in Westeros because bloodraven saw the value of such 1660 01:34:15,700 --> 01:34:18,200 symbols and didn't allow them. Bloodraven wouldn't allow them 1661 01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:20,700 to even sing songs of the Blackfriars. 1662 01:34:20,900 --> 01:34:22,400 Certainly, no statues. Were there. 1663 01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:24,900 People made pilgrimages to the red grass field because that's 1664 01:34:24,900 --> 01:34:27,000 just a site. But bloodraven wasn't even too 1665 01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:30,700 big on allowing that Sabine read at first joins. 1666 01:34:30,700 --> 01:34:33,000 The new Empire, she's excited about it because the His 1667 01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:36,000 propaganda worked pretty well, they convinced a lot of people 1668 01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:38,200 that they were bringing order and Justice to the Galaxy. 1669 01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:40,500 Of course, that was nonsense. That was Bull. 1670 01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:44,200 The emperor was just lying and using propaganda, but a lot of 1671 01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:46,300 people fell for it, I mean, we're talking about an entire 1672 01:34:46,300 --> 01:34:48,700 galaxy here. Not everyone's privy to the 1673 01:34:48,700 --> 01:34:50,800 events happening elsewhere, it's pretty easy to control 1674 01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:54,100 information. Internet doesn't spend all these 1675 01:34:54,100 --> 01:34:56,500 planets their version of it anyway. 1676 01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:01,900 So Sabine starts off as it is like ambitious. 1677 01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:06,200 Wells. A very successful technology 1678 01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:08,700 person within the Empire. She develops helps develop a 1679 01:35:08,700 --> 01:35:11,700 super weapon that gets used against her own people and 1680 01:35:11,700 --> 01:35:13,300 that's what turns her back against it. 1681 01:35:13,308 --> 01:35:14,700 She's like, oh no. What have I done? 1682 01:35:14,700 --> 01:35:16,900 I helped build a super weapon that was used against my own 1683 01:35:16,900 --> 01:35:22,600 people so she joins the Rebellion which so like kind of 1684 01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:25,500 early on like right before a new hope, this is when she's she 1685 01:35:25,500 --> 01:35:29,600 joins and she read ons, her family's armor, her family's 1686 01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:32,300 Mandalorian armor which is 500 years old, by the way. 1687 01:35:32,500 --> 01:35:36,300 That's pretty cool. She is able to retrieve the 1688 01:35:36,308 --> 01:35:40,200 darksaber from Darth Maul's home World in a site. 1689 01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:43,100 Basically a side quest, she doesn't know what it is. 1690 01:35:43,100 --> 01:35:47,700 Its virtues know the whole story, but just so happens that 1691 01:35:47,700 --> 01:35:51,900 she's with someone named, Fenn Rau who was a Mandalorian 1692 01:35:51,900 --> 01:35:54,400 protector. Amanda Lala barristan. 1693 01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:59,900 You have a young person from a noble family, who doesn't know 1694 01:35:59,900 --> 01:36:01,900 everything about their family's history. 1695 01:36:02,100 --> 01:36:05,600 It gets them things wrong. That gets told The truth by an 1696 01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:09,800 elder kingsguard barristan here. We have a mandolin protector, 1697 01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:13,500 telling Sabine Wren, the full history of the darksaber. 1698 01:36:15,100 --> 01:36:18,400 And that inspires her, she reunites with her family gathers 1699 01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:23,900 support, they offer the darksaber to Boca tan and she 1700 01:36:23,900 --> 01:36:26,700 accepts it. This turns out to be a mistake 1701 01:36:27,500 --> 01:36:31,300 and, or backfires somewhat or Blackfriars because it does lead 1702 01:36:31,300 --> 01:36:35,800 to another civil war. But this time they were only 1703 01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:37,400 against each other but they're against the empire. 1704 01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:43,200 Because Clan Saxon has a deal with the Empire and even though 1705 01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:46,000 Clan Saxon is part of house vizla. 1706 01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:49,800 So there's a split amongst house vizla and a split amongst the 1707 01:36:49,808 --> 01:36:53,200 mandalorians and a split amongst the Empire as the Rebellion is 1708 01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:57,500 breaking out. So, Boca tan has a mutt enough 1709 01:36:57,500 --> 01:37:01,900 support, amongst the people. During these hard times to 1710 01:37:01,900 --> 01:37:05,700 become Mandalore, the visible is the rennes, the creases, the 1711 01:37:05,700 --> 01:37:10,000 Rooks, the elders, and Fenn Rau. The sole remaining protector 1712 01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:14,700 because during some events, the other protectors are killed. 1713 01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:17,400 So he's the only one left side. They all bend the knee to her as 1714 01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:22,600 Mandalore but because she didn't win the darksaber in combat, her 1715 01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:26,900 rule wasn't very strong. In particular, this view is held 1716 01:37:26,900 --> 01:37:30,300 by the children of the watch who are descendants of Death, Watch 1717 01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:32,800 Children of the watch, it kind of sounds a lot of Game of 1718 01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:34,800 Thrones terms in there. You got Children of the forest 1719 01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:37,000 and the Nights Watch kind of mashed into one there. 1720 01:37:37,100 --> 01:37:39,500 The children of the Watcher pretty hardcore, they bring back 1721 01:37:39,500 --> 01:37:43,600 a lot of old values. They believe that, even though 1722 01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:46,600 they don't believe the sword give someone the right to rule, 1723 01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:50,600 they don't believe that the darksaber gives makes you 1724 01:37:50,608 --> 01:37:53,000 Mandalore because that's a newer belief. 1725 01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:57,100 They believe the old way. They still believe that 1726 01:37:57,500 --> 01:38:01,000 accepting the darksaber as a gift is a curse, would bring a 1727 01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:04,800 curse on Mandalore on the people in the planet. 1728 01:38:04,900 --> 01:38:08,500 And then subsequent events would sort of justify that belief. 1729 01:38:10,700 --> 01:38:13,800 Even if Boca Tans rule had been strong. 1730 01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:16,700 It probably wouldn't have been enough to stop. 1731 01:38:16,700 --> 01:38:20,500 What was coming because the Empire before, the rebellion was 1732 01:38:20,500 --> 01:38:24,300 complete, the Empire retaliated brutally. 1733 01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:28,600 Against the overthrow of gar Saxon who was killed and then 1734 01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:31,000 gar Saxons. Brother Tiber took over and 1735 01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:36,300 Tiber was also killed. So they just came kind of like 1736 01:38:36,300 --> 01:38:38,600 the Valyrian Freehold dead when they decided, they finally 1737 01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:41,400 wanted to really go to war with the rhoynar they sent 300 1738 01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:44,500 dragons, right? This is basically what they did 1739 01:38:44,500 --> 01:38:49,800 to Mandalore the Empire sent just a ton of bombers and bombed 1740 01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:52,200 into Oblivion. It was called The Purge of 1741 01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:55,200 Mandalore that culminated in the night of a thousand tears were 1742 01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:58,500 Boca 10 Led her people in kind of a desperate attempt to stop 1743 01:38:58,500 --> 01:39:03,300 the killings didn't work. She surrendered the darksaber. 1744 01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:07,300 You is be Chief moth. Gideon are sorry. 1745 01:39:07,300 --> 01:39:11,300 I just be Chief Gideon, who later became moff Gideon on the 1746 01:39:11,300 --> 01:39:13,700 condition that they stopped slaughtering mandalorians. 1747 01:39:13,700 --> 01:39:16,900 He was like, thanks for the sword, but never mind. 1748 01:39:16,900 --> 01:39:19,300 I will not upholding my end of the bargain and kept on 1749 01:39:19,300 --> 01:39:22,200 slaughtering mandalorians. This was basically a genocide. 1750 01:39:22,900 --> 01:39:26,100 So, the children of the watch were, like, we told you, we told 1751 01:39:26,100 --> 01:39:27,900 you doing this, would be a curse. 1752 01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:32,600 And this was sort of like completed the Doom of Mandalore, 1753 01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:38,300 the prior destruction of the surface of the planet still left 1754 01:39:38,300 --> 01:39:39,500 it. Inhabitable they still had Dome 1755 01:39:39,500 --> 01:39:41,900 cities and stuff. This was this was it basically, 1756 01:39:41,900 --> 01:39:45,700 at least what people thought it was truly uninhabitable or was 1757 01:39:45,700 --> 01:39:47,400 it? That's what people thought, 1758 01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,200 people thought it was people at the people like the children to 1759 01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:52,200 watch spread, the rumor that it was cursed. 1760 01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:54,600 Other people said it was just uninhabitable due to the 1761 01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:57,100 radioactive fallout or the equivalent. 1762 01:39:57,700 --> 01:40:00,900 But there's some evidence that this rumor was spread by people 1763 01:40:00,900 --> 01:40:05,300 who wanted people to believe that this comes back to our 1764 01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:09,200 discussion about your on and maybe people of Atlantis who 1765 01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:12,100 make it sound like malaria is less inhabitable than it might 1766 01:40:12,100 --> 01:40:17,900 be. So Gideon is still in charge of 1767 01:40:17,900 --> 01:40:20,500 this sect which is the kind of his division that he's been 1768 01:40:20,500 --> 01:40:23,400 assigned when the Empire Falls when the Empire Emperor is 1769 01:40:23,400 --> 01:40:27,900 killed by Vader throwing him into the reactor there and Luke 1770 01:40:27,900 --> 01:40:30,800 and they get off the new death star and escaping all that. 1771 01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:34,600 The Empire Falls moff Gideon who has been promoted to modify this 1772 01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:41,500 point tries to reform the empire in his own image quite literally 1773 01:40:41,500 --> 01:40:45,500 with clones of himself. But he does like a year on 1774 01:40:45,500 --> 01:40:46,600 thing. Here is the other reason I bring 1775 01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:51,500 Iran back around because he's using all the best parts as he 1776 01:40:51,500 --> 01:40:53,800 sees it. A various cultures to seize 1777 01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:57,500 power, kind of like you're on is using Valyrian steel. 1778 01:40:57,500 --> 01:41:01,800 He's using old magic using blood magic he's using Valerian 1779 01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:04,400 ideals. He's using ironborn ideals, he's 1780 01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:08,000 murdering all the gods, he's challenging the existing status 1781 01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:11,900 status quo and breaking it down. Gideon was doing a lot of the 1782 01:41:11,900 --> 01:41:14,900 same things. He's using cloning kind of like 1783 01:41:14,900 --> 01:41:18,500 Valyrian energy their Force Powers the darksaber and best 1784 01:41:18,500 --> 01:41:21,100 car. All the best of the things he 1785 01:41:21,100 --> 01:41:23,400 thought were the best of multiple cultures merged into 1786 01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:27,100 one and using that to make himself and his army into this 1787 01:41:27,300 --> 01:41:32,400 unbeatable thing, or so he thought Entered in jar and again 1788 01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:35,700 and grow. Goo AKA Star Wars is version of 1789 01:41:35,700 --> 01:41:38,200 dunk and egg. The parallel made even stronger 1790 01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:40,500 by the fact that didn't yarn is Pedro. 1791 01:41:40,500 --> 01:41:46,300 Pascal AKA The Red Viper. By the way, Robert strong never 1792 01:41:46,300 --> 01:41:52,100 takes off his helmet either so didn't charges while out in the 1793 01:41:52,100 --> 01:41:54,800 world with grow, gu doing his thing getting into Adventures, 1794 01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:58,600 hunting bounties, he encounters Boca tan and in fact, rescued by 1795 01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:03,800 her, and some of her people while they're just out there in 1796 01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:05,100 the world. Now there's not very many of 1797 01:42:05,100 --> 01:42:08,200 them so they're just making a living as again, sellswords kind 1798 01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:13,400 of, but he gets embroiled with them and manages to defeat mom. 1799 01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:17,000 Gideon in personal combat and wins the darksaber. 1800 01:42:17,100 --> 01:42:19,000 He doesn't understand what's just happened, he doesn't 1801 01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:22,400 understand what beating someone with the dhara. 1802 01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:24,600 Who's willing to darksaber means, he doesn't know that. 1803 01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:28,500 He's just fulfilled in some Mandalorian people's minds. 1804 01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:32,300 The very thing that makes you Mandalore. 1805 01:42:33,300 --> 01:42:36,500 And this is maybe like it will see with dark sister of dark. 1806 01:42:36,500 --> 01:42:38,600 Sister pops up in Blood Ravens cave. 1807 01:42:39,100 --> 01:42:43,200 They may brand mirror and them may be like, oh, this is a nice 1808 01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:45,600 sort. Hey won't know, just how much 1809 01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:49,400 history is involved in that sword, and who owned it and all 1810 01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:58,300 that other stuff. so, He goes back and as the wielder of the 1811 01:42:58,300 --> 01:43:03,700 darksaber, he's challenged by another descendant of house 1812 01:43:03,700 --> 01:43:06,900 vizla, pause vizla but he wins The Challenge and keeps the 1813 01:43:06,900 --> 01:43:09,900 darksaber even while not believing in its significance 1814 01:43:09,900 --> 01:43:11,800 that much. But you know he's a man Lauren 1815 01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:13,400 and it's gonna not going to back down from a fight. 1816 01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:15,600 This guy wants his sword. He's like no, it's my sword. 1817 01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:18,900 He wants to give it to bucket and he's like, I want to give 1818 01:43:18,900 --> 01:43:21,400 this to you because I don't believe in it and you could 1819 01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:23,700 unite our people. You are a royal from a royal 1820 01:43:23,700 --> 01:43:27,100 family of experience leading. People will follow you but she's 1821 01:43:27,100 --> 01:43:28,900 like, you can't just give it to me. 1822 01:43:28,900 --> 01:43:31,300 Look what happened when people gave it to me before, they don't 1823 01:43:31,300 --> 01:43:34,000 accept it. If you give it to me events, 1824 01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:37,600 play out that enable a loophole of sorts. 1825 01:43:38,700 --> 01:43:44,900 He is defeated drop by a spider robot creature that lives in the 1826 01:43:44,900 --> 01:43:49,600 ruins of Mandalore and she rescues him while rescuing the 1827 01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:53,200 darksaber and using it to defeat this creature or this Droid 1828 01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:56,600 thing. So they're able to convince a 1829 01:43:56,600 --> 01:44:00,300 lot of mandalorians. At this means that she has 1830 01:44:00,300 --> 01:44:03,700 effectively one that arksaber from him by saving him from the 1831 01:44:03,700 --> 01:44:05,100 thing that was going to kill him. 1832 01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:10,000 This is sketchy, but whatever? If they go for it, the law for 1833 01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:16,300 you Manawa, their own Panda lawyers, read the fine print and 1834 01:44:16,300 --> 01:44:23,400 they realize man's a lawyer's. I mean, that's basically what 1835 01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:24,800 happens there. They're like, yeah. 1836 01:44:25,900 --> 01:44:28,400 So here's where Boca Town becomes more of a Daenerys. 1837 01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:34,000 She unites a disparate people while having seemingly nothing 1838 01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:37,100 to work with other than her Heritage, by the way, Boca tan. 1839 01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:41,600 Red hair, she hasn't bathed in. Blood is Danny is said to do, 1840 01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:44,300 but the actress Katee Sackhoff. Doesn't have red hair. 1841 01:44:44,300 --> 01:44:45,700 So she didn't need red hair dye for, huh? 1842 01:44:45,700 --> 01:44:47,500 So there's some bathing blood going on. 1843 01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:53,100 I sewed in John basically gives up the darksaber and kneels to 1844 01:44:53,100 --> 01:44:54,500 her. It's like, I swear my house to 1845 01:44:54,500 --> 01:44:56,400 yours. Is it possible? 1846 01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:58,900 That's what will happen with egg on the six. 1847 01:44:58,900 --> 01:45:01,400 Well, he bend the knee to Danny because she's got dragons and 1848 01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:03,200 he's like, look, I'm really the real Targaryen here. 1849 01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:07,100 That might be a little too happy of an outcome but it's possible. 1850 01:45:07,100 --> 01:45:10,200 I mean, if you look at at the example of game and pale hair 1851 01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:14,300 becoming the food, taster for egg on the third, rather than, 1852 01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:17,400 you know, being executed as a pretender, I don't know. 1853 01:45:17,407 --> 01:45:23,000 You can see something like that, maybe Boca tan also like Danny 1854 01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:25,900 pivots from fighting her own people, to fighting the bigger 1855 01:45:25,900 --> 01:45:30,000 bad, the bigger enemy in, and there's a parallel here, too. 1856 01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:33,100 Because the bigger bad in Game of Thrones, of course, is the 1857 01:45:33,100 --> 01:45:35,500 others on the TV show. It's night King, which again is 1858 01:45:35,500 --> 01:45:39,200 Darth Maul, which smoke? And was focusing on for a while 1859 01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:41,900 there and then eventually focusing on the Empire fighting 1860 01:45:41,900 --> 01:45:43,700 the big bad Empire and the Empire. 1861 01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:51,600 Surely we can make parallels to the Empire and the whites and 1862 01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:55,500 the others and winter. I mean, the Stormtroopers is 1863 01:45:55,500 --> 01:45:58,200 comparison to whites. They're all like uniform and 1864 01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:02,400 identical and not terribly competent and not, you know, and 1865 01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:04,800 centrally controlled almost respect even more. 1866 01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:06,800 So if it's if you're looking at a droid army like that, 1867 01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:11,000 literally centrally controlled by a single being or multiple 1868 01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:14,400 single beings each with their own, like group of Undead. 1869 01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:19,000 By the way, we made the joke about Grant the night of Gren, 1870 01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:22,700 Mark Stanley, who plays grenn and a night of Ren also saw a 1871 01:46:22,700 --> 01:46:25,400 man named Spencer Wilding. That's almost Spencer. 1872 01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:30,600 Wildling Plays Darth Vader in Rogue one and one of the White 1873 01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:33,800 Walkers and Game of Thrones. So yet another Crossover with an 1874 01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:36,300 actor there. A lot of people have been in 1875 01:46:36,300 --> 01:46:37,800 both Star Wars and Game of Thrones. 1876 01:46:38,500 --> 01:46:42,300 For example, usual ones, Darth Vader and a white walker. 1877 01:46:42,300 --> 01:46:45,800 Yeah, definitely. One of the other examples, a 1878 01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:48,400 more famous One is since we're talking about Danny now. 1879 01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:54,600 Emilia Clarke was in the shadow, Collective as Kira a subordinate 1880 01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:58,200 to Darth Maul that's true. That's I turn around for 1881 01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:00,500 Daenerys, she was quite good in that. 1882 01:47:00,500 --> 01:47:03,800 I was very skeptical. That I would be like able to 1883 01:47:03,800 --> 01:47:06,900 accept her in that role. And I agree Ike, she surprised 1884 01:47:06,900 --> 01:47:09,300 me it's too bad that movie didn't do as well and they 1885 01:47:09,300 --> 01:47:11,300 didn't, you know, they followed up a little bit with it in the 1886 01:47:11,300 --> 01:47:14,700 comics, that's true. But I would like to see more of 1887 01:47:14,700 --> 01:47:18,400 physically that like I like the darker stuff that's why I'm 1888 01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:22,000 excited for the acolyte like I would like to see the darker 1889 01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:24,400 side of things and not just the goods. 1890 01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:26,200 People agree. Yeah I want to see what makes 1891 01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:27,800 them. What makes Some tick why they 1892 01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:29,700 were the motivated and I think our Wars just villains pretty 1893 01:47:29,700 --> 01:47:31,400 well. Yeah, it's hard for them to do 1894 01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:34,100 and the Disney Star Wars like how like I mean, that's what 1895 01:47:34,100 --> 01:47:36,300 they ran into at the book of Boba Fett, right? 1896 01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:41,500 It's like they can't really show what a sleazy person would be 1897 01:47:41,500 --> 01:47:44,300 like because they're kind of sanitized in that respect so you 1898 01:47:44,300 --> 01:47:48,000 can't really show the mafia. Yeah that's true. 1899 01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:49,700 They had the same problem with the wrong. 1900 01:47:49,700 --> 01:47:52,600 How he's kind of a good guy to his people and kind of a good 1901 01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:56,000 guy if you read the books but to the to the rebels in the 1902 01:47:56,008 --> 01:47:57,600 alliance, he's a bad guy. Very much so. 1903 01:47:57,600 --> 01:47:59,800 And those are the real good guys from a lot of people's 1904 01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:01,200 perspective. So, yeah, it is a little 1905 01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:05,800 confusing in that sense, but very fun, another really strong 1906 01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:10,000 Danny Boca tan parallel, is that Mocha Tan SI is the one who 1907 01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:12,700 witnesses a living mythis or again. 1908 01:48:12,700 --> 01:48:16,200 She's discovers and sees it and is the only one to witness it. 1909 01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:19,100 Now, obviously, a plenty of people see dany's dragons but 1910 01:48:19,100 --> 01:48:23,400 it's this feminine character, this leader figure, this Royal 1911 01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:26,700 who's restoring their people again. 1912 01:48:27,100 --> 01:48:31,000 That is the one that has this connection to the true symbol of 1913 01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:33,900 their house. The one that gave them the power 1914 01:48:33,900 --> 01:48:36,200 in the first place. So long ago that is now back. 1915 01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:39,400 Again, we kind of thought we'd see Boca tan, right? 1916 01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:42,300 Amethyst or in the show, maybe she will in a future season. 1917 01:48:42,500 --> 01:48:46,000 Like Danny rides, her dragon Dan, you didn't ride her Dragon 1918 01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:48,200 right away, though. So building up to that also 1919 01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:51,600 would be a parallel. So Bogut and proceeds to reunite 1920 01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:54,300 her scattered people and lead them back to reclaim their home. 1921 01:48:54,300 --> 01:48:58,600 Kind of like Danny is well in the process of doing that, not 1922 01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:01,200 everyone believes in the darksaber is a symbol of rule 1923 01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:03,900 still and neither, does she? Now, I wonder how that will go 1924 01:49:03,900 --> 01:49:05,600 for. Danny, is that a lesson for us? 1925 01:49:06,100 --> 01:49:10,700 Something to think about, maybe, Because the darksaber is 1926 01:49:10,700 --> 01:49:13,200 destroyed at the end. Now there's nothing preventing 1927 01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:17,600 it from being rebuilt, it could it's not some fully unique item 1928 01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:19,500 that no one knows how to make another one of. 1929 01:49:19,700 --> 01:49:22,600 But symbolically being destroyed? 1930 01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:26,900 Does that mean the Mandalorian people will maybe stop fighting 1931 01:49:26,900 --> 01:49:30,500 each other so much is this the destruction of this blade that 1932 01:49:30,500 --> 01:49:32,500 brought them so much pain and suffering? 1933 01:49:32,500 --> 01:49:36,000 Because so many people used it to try to take over, I mean 1934 01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:39,200 there's periods of time that we skipped over in Mandalore In 1935 01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:42,900 history, where the darksaber was, used to seize power, if not 1936 01:49:43,300 --> 01:49:46,200 in attempts, that didn't succeed, or some that did. 1937 01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:50,200 And some that only succeeded partially like it was repeatedly 1938 01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:52,800 used to reunite house Crees we're talking about, I'm sorry 1939 01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:56,500 house vizla, we're talking about a larger span of time then A 1940 01:49:56,508 --> 01:49:59,900 Song of Ice and Fire of course, but even as we're talking about 1941 01:49:59,900 --> 01:50:04,900 a very similar, overall, span of time of about 10,000 years, Is 1942 01:50:04,900 --> 01:50:06,500 the Iron Throne going to be destroyed at the end. 1943 01:50:06,500 --> 01:50:11,700 Would that be a similar? Sort of ending of a artifact or 1944 01:50:11,700 --> 01:50:14,600 object that itself? The pursuit of his cause so Much 1945 01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:17,300 Death and destruction. Maybe Blackfire will be 1946 01:50:17,300 --> 01:50:18,600 destroyed. Now black fire isn't as 1947 01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:24,100 important of a symbol and A Song of Ice and Fire yet it's a lot 1948 01:50:24,100 --> 01:50:25,400 more. So to those of us who really pay 1949 01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:29,500 attention to those of look to listen to podcasts regularly and 1950 01:50:29,500 --> 01:50:32,500 read the extra material. As we pointed out many times, 1951 01:50:32,900 --> 01:50:35,900 the sword blackfyre has Never been mentioned in the main five 1952 01:50:35,900 --> 01:50:38,600 books. So it's a little harder to see 1953 01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:41,700 it as such an important symbol. But again, we're all pretty sure 1954 01:50:41,700 --> 01:50:43,900 that it's going to become one. George is kind of keeping it 1955 01:50:43,900 --> 01:50:46,900 close to the cuff or close to the chest cough. 1956 01:50:47,100 --> 01:50:49,200 Well, sure close to his chest cough. 1957 01:50:50,500 --> 01:50:52,200 At the end of The Game of Thrones TV show. 1958 01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:57,400 We see Jon Snow walking away from the wall and he's smiling 1959 01:50:57,400 --> 01:50:59,800 and there's some Greenery growing is like oh look it's a 1960 01:50:59,808 --> 01:51:02,600 good dream of spring, right. It's like a hope for the future. 1961 01:51:03,700 --> 01:51:08,100 The same thing happens near the end of the Mandalorian TV show, 1962 01:51:08,100 --> 01:51:13,300 most recent season where there's a sort of side scene where you 1963 01:51:13,300 --> 01:51:19,600 see some survivors on Mandalore who didn't get off Planet during 1964 01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:25,500 I Either of the cataclysms then maybe there were others to any 1965 01:51:25,500 --> 01:51:27,300 of the cataclysms. They stayed they managed to 1966 01:51:27,300 --> 01:51:28,900 survive. It is a whole planet after all 1967 01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:34,100 and started to try to like replant and make new green 1968 01:51:34,100 --> 01:51:36,700 spaces. So, there is also a dream of 1969 01:51:36,700 --> 01:51:40,200 spring element to the Mandalorian Civil Wars and maybe 1970 01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:43,500 a hope that they can get their act together and stop fighting 1971 01:51:43,500 --> 01:51:45,400 each other. It's one thing to have a warrior 1972 01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:47,500 culture. It's another thing to just 1973 01:51:48,300 --> 01:51:52,400 always go at it with each other and Billy destroy yourselves at 1974 01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:54,300 least in their early history, they were fighting other people 1975 01:51:54,300 --> 01:51:57,700 which isn't you know, ethical but it's less stupid. 1976 01:51:58,900 --> 01:52:04,100 It's less self-destructive and we can maybe hope that's 1977 01:52:04,100 --> 01:52:07,600 something that is coming and will maybe even see future 1978 01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:10,700 parallels after all both of these stories are still ongoing. 1979 01:52:10,700 --> 01:52:12,800 We don't know the end of A Song of Ice and Fire we don't know 1980 01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:15,600 the true fate of the Blackfriars, the targaryens 1981 01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:19,300 Danny, the Iron Throne, the sword, Her Dragons. 1982 01:52:19,700 --> 01:52:23,100 Just as I don't know, the ultimate fate of the 1983 01:52:23,108 --> 01:52:25,900 mandalorians, as a people as individuals, what will happen 1984 01:52:25,900 --> 01:52:27,900 with Boca tan, what will happen with ginger, aren? 1985 01:52:27,900 --> 01:52:30,200 What will happen with some of these houses will they 1986 01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:32,200 re-emerge? Will they become important? 1987 01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:33,500 What kind of political system will they have? 1988 01:52:33,500 --> 01:52:35,700 That's a question for Game of Thrones to, if the Iron Throne 1989 01:52:35,700 --> 01:52:37,800 is destroyed. Are they going to form new 1990 01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:39,400 kingdoms? Are they going to change their 1991 01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:42,300 style of leadership? Mandalorians, went through, lots 1992 01:52:42,300 --> 01:52:46,700 of iterations of government that kept coming back to the old way, 1993 01:52:46,700 --> 01:52:48,100 right? They had things like a prime 1994 01:52:48,100 --> 01:52:50,100 minister for a while Duchess Satine appointed. 1995 01:52:50,100 --> 01:52:53,200 A Minister when she was in power but people tried to bring it 1996 01:52:53,208 --> 01:52:56,800 back to the old way of Mandalore know, the most powerful Warrior 1997 01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:59,000 rules us and if no one is the most powerful Warrior than we 1998 01:52:59,000 --> 01:53:03,100 exist in a state of violent chaos until someone does. 1999 01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:07,800 You can see why that's not good but they kept it going for so 2000 01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:09,500 long. Just like Westeros has been 2001 01:53:09,500 --> 01:53:13,500 going for so long. In this state of not advancing 2002 01:53:13,500 --> 01:53:15,500 technologically, not moving forward. 2003 01:53:15,500 --> 01:53:20,300 Culturally, we might see that when the books are done or As 2004 01:53:20,300 --> 01:53:24,800 sort of a coda or epilogue some sense of growth, some sort of, 2005 01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:26,900 finally, a change, something to come out of it. 2006 01:53:27,100 --> 01:53:29,800 But even if that does happen, there may be elements to try to 2007 01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:34,600 drag them back into the darkness of history and two times that 2008 01:53:35,100 --> 01:53:37,200 weren't so good. You know, some traditions are 2009 01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:38,800 good. Some cultural Traditions are 2010 01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:42,300 worth following and holding but don't just uphold them because 2011 01:53:42,300 --> 01:53:45,800 their Traditions, don't just do what your ancestors did for the 2012 01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:48,000 sake of doing what your ancestors did. 2013 01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:49,700 So there's a real-life lessons in there too. 2014 01:53:49,700 --> 01:53:52,300 I think. Which is something that George 2015 01:53:52,300 --> 01:53:54,500 likes to both George's, George, Lucas, and George r.r. 2016 01:53:54,500 --> 01:53:58,400 Martin, like to impart in their stories, they like to Get out 2017 01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:01,600 the human heart in conflict with itself or a human society in 2018 01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:04,200 conflict with itself which might be more appropriate way of 2019 01:54:04,200 --> 01:54:06,200 framing what we've discussed today. 2020 01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:09,900 Because while there were a lot of individuals and a lot of them 2021 01:54:09,900 --> 01:54:14,000 had conflict, like, oh Catan, going against her sister, but 2022 01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:16,500 also going against her people like what side does she take or 2023 01:54:16,500 --> 01:54:20,400 Danny, is she merged it in the throne or saving her people from 2024 01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:22,400 the others? Which is more important? 2025 01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:27,100 Well, I think we know which is more important but her choices 2026 01:54:27,100 --> 01:54:29,300 along the way The way are going to be, what makes this story 2027 01:54:29,300 --> 01:54:32,000 interesting, the reason we're going to read and reread it and 2028 01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:34,100 I think the Mandalorian has some simple things to offer. 2029 01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:37,400 It's not his it doesn't have the, you know, the depth of 2030 01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:38,600 George r.r. Martin, I think. 2031 01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:41,000 But the world-building is great. I think it's very strong and 2032 01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:42,700 expanded. Star Wars Universe has given us 2033 01:54:42,700 --> 01:54:45,700 a lot more to dig into, I for one am very happy with it and it 2034 01:54:45,700 --> 01:54:47,900 was Shay is a big fan to. We watch a lot of these shows 2035 01:54:47,900 --> 01:54:49,200 together while we watch them all together. 2036 01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:52,600 Pretty much personally, I haven't seen a lot of the 2037 01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:54,200 animated show. I haven't a lot of these things 2038 01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:55,700 happen, in Clone Wars and Rebels. 2039 01:54:55,700 --> 01:54:57,500 Lot of things I've described, I haven't actually seen very much 2040 01:54:57,600 --> 01:55:01,200 That. I have read a lot of books, seen 2041 01:55:01,200 --> 01:55:03,200 all the movies and seeing all the TV shows that aren't 2042 01:55:03,200 --> 01:55:06,100 animated. Shay is basically the same as me 2043 01:55:06,100 --> 01:55:08,800 on that, so we're kind of similar in that. 2044 01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:11,800 Regard are currently watching Star Wars Visions. 2045 01:55:11,900 --> 01:55:15,500 We're seeing the first five or six episodes of season two. 2046 01:55:15,500 --> 01:55:18,100 I mean like the new season came out but yeah that's our current 2047 01:55:18,100 --> 01:55:22,400 Star Wars consumption. Speaking of Visions, eat there's 2048 01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:25,200 even prophecy and vision within the world of Star Wars. 2049 01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:28,200 Of course, there's things like the chosen one. 2050 01:55:28,300 --> 01:55:31,900 They thought Anakin was going to be and he was kind of in a way 2051 01:55:31,900 --> 01:55:34,300 and they mistook Medusa misunderstood that prophecy, 2052 01:55:34,300 --> 01:55:35,500 right? They thought the chosen one that 2053 01:55:35,508 --> 01:55:37,500 would bring balance to the force was what? 2054 01:55:37,500 --> 01:55:38,600 Hannigan was. And they misunderstood that 2055 01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:40,800 prophecy, which is a recurring feature of A Song of Ice and 2056 01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:42,600 Fire. Of course, in fact, the person 2057 01:55:42,600 --> 01:55:44,500 that restored balance to the force did. 2058 01:55:44,500 --> 01:55:48,000 So by restoring the dark side to power to be in balance with the 2059 01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:50,700 light side, which had been winning out for some time. 2060 01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:54,300 So yep. Even that has some parallels in 2061 01:55:54,300 --> 01:55:58,200 A Song of Ice and Fire as well and the armor tells bow. 2062 01:55:58,300 --> 01:56:03,300 Kattan when Boca tan reveals that she saw the mythus or Book 2063 01:56:03,300 --> 01:56:06,300 on the armor response, those who walk the way? 2064 01:56:06,300 --> 01:56:10,400 See many Visions. So in this it's meant to be more 2065 01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:12,700 of a religious Vision which is real world thing. 2066 01:56:12,700 --> 01:56:15,400 People have religious Visions, whether they're, you know, real 2067 01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:19,500 or not quote unquote is way outside the scope of this 2068 01:56:19,500 --> 01:56:21,400 episode. But people see them as real, 2069 01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:24,500 they act on them is real, they write books about them as if 2070 01:56:24,500 --> 01:56:28,300 they're real and all that and that has an effect as if it's 2071 01:56:28,300 --> 01:56:31,900 real, whether it really is or not for a lot of people, same is 2072 01:56:31,900 --> 01:56:33,500 true. Ruin these fantasy world sees 2073 01:56:33,500 --> 01:56:35,400 space fantasy or medieval fantasy or whatever you want to 2074 01:56:35,407 --> 01:56:38,900 call it. The characters, as great as they 2075 01:56:38,900 --> 01:56:43,200 are as Bree living breathing, as they are draws us to them, and 2076 01:56:43,200 --> 01:56:44,700 makes us want to learn more about them. 2077 01:56:45,900 --> 01:56:49,500 My final question for you all, as I wonder, if George r.r., 2078 01:56:49,500 --> 01:56:51,400 Martin is seeing the Mandalorian, I just I think he's 2079 01:56:51,800 --> 01:56:54,100 talked about watching a lot of the new Star Wars shows, so I'm 2080 01:56:54,100 --> 01:56:56,100 guessing he has. So, what does it mean in 2081 01:56:56,100 --> 01:56:58,200 Reverse? He has intentions blog post. 2082 01:56:58,500 --> 01:57:01,700 Yeah, he hasn't but I think he is a fan. 2083 01:57:02,100 --> 01:57:04,500 And he does watch plenty of TV. So I don't know, maybe not, but 2084 01:57:04,500 --> 01:57:07,800 I would wonder if he watches it and notices any of these same 2085 01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:10,100 parallels was like, hey, that's kind of like Blackfire, you 2086 01:57:10,100 --> 01:57:14,000 know, darksaber made of black fire that's like my sword. 2087 01:57:14,100 --> 01:57:17,400 So I really I hope the day comes where he comments on that. 2088 01:57:19,900 --> 01:57:22,100 And because obviously there's other, he has other ties to Star 2089 01:57:22,100 --> 01:57:24,100 Wars. Given the Ralph McQuarrie stuff 2090 01:57:24,100 --> 01:57:27,400 and other little things like that, so we can hope we can 2091 01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:29,200 hope. And maybe some more things will 2092 01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:31,300 emerge. A couple of questions from y'all 2093 01:57:31,300 --> 01:57:33,200 here. As we wrap things up guilty, 2094 01:57:33,200 --> 01:57:35,400 Undertaker says both Star Wars and Moulin Rouge, have a 2095 01:57:35,407 --> 01:57:37,500 character named Satine, Who falls in love with a character 2096 01:57:37,500 --> 01:57:40,000 played by Ewan, McGregor and dies tragically, yeah. 2097 01:57:40,300 --> 01:57:43,300 Whoa, a parallel. I've never seen. 2098 01:57:43,300 --> 01:57:46,000 Moulin Rouge. I knew you and McGregor was in 2099 01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:47,800 it. I've seen the one I never have. 2100 01:57:47,900 --> 01:57:49,700 You should watch one room. Okay. 2101 01:57:50,300 --> 01:57:52,500 That's like my favorite mute. I know you don't like musicals, 2102 01:57:52,500 --> 01:57:56,800 but it's my favorite musical. My favorite baz, lurman movie 2103 01:57:57,000 --> 01:58:00,600 and he's one of my favorite dry. It's my favorite romance for 2104 01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:02,000 sure. I anyways, yes. 2105 01:58:02,100 --> 01:58:04,600 Is there a fight between the Moulin Rouge has and the Moulin 2106 01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:08,300 noirs? The feds in the blacks right now 2107 01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:11,000 we're watching it Jazz holgersson says but who is the 2108 01:58:11,008 --> 01:58:13,600 hot pie of Star Wars? Hot Pew or Hoth pie. 2109 01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:16,300 Haha spy. I think it's ice cream pie. 2110 01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:17,900 Yeah ice cream pie. Yeah. 2111 01:58:19,400 --> 01:58:20,700 Two points for you Jazz holgersson. 2112 01:58:20,700 --> 01:58:22,700 That's a good one. Meredith said. 2113 01:58:22,700 --> 01:58:27,000 So here's a question in Clone Wars bad batch. 2114 01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:29,300 We learned that the hide of the Zillo Beast can withstand 2115 01:58:29,300 --> 01:58:31,400 lightsabers and Song of Ice and Fire could one make armor a 2116 01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:33,300 dragon scales if yes, what would it do? 2117 01:58:33,300 --> 01:58:37,600 Whoo. I don't see why not. 2118 01:58:37,600 --> 01:58:41,300 I mean unless dragon scales just like do you know rot or fall 2119 01:58:41,300 --> 01:58:42,900 apart? I don't know why not. 2120 01:58:42,900 --> 01:58:44,800 Is that? Like if we haven't seen it in 2121 01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:48,500 the series, I have to wonder if there is no K degradation and 2122 01:58:48,500 --> 01:58:50,400 happens without it's a good point. 2123 01:58:50,400 --> 01:58:53,200 The fact that it doesn't exist is a strong argument against it. 2124 01:58:53,200 --> 01:58:56,600 Yeah, to me, well, otherwise yeah, I think for sure dragon 2125 01:58:56,600 --> 01:58:59,100 scale armor was like, I think people would be using it whether 2126 01:58:59,100 --> 01:59:03,400 for armor or for decoration, or for any kind of like they would 2127 01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:07,800 be using dragon scales, I think. If they lasted, you know, I 2128 01:59:07,800 --> 01:59:09,800 think you could make them into there's a chance, it's a taboo 2129 01:59:09,800 --> 01:59:11,500 like the valyrians were like, no, we don't do that. 2130 01:59:11,500 --> 01:59:14,100 But then, like once the Valerian culture died, like, I, why would 2131 01:59:14,100 --> 01:59:15,900 someone else do it? Like, as soon as like, what 2132 01:59:15,900 --> 01:59:21,100 wouldn't a dragon, why would they not make use of that skins? 2133 01:59:21,100 --> 01:59:22,700 Very good points. And yeah, that's a good point. 2134 01:59:22,700 --> 01:59:24,700 It probably isn't possible that you someone would have done it. 2135 01:59:24,700 --> 01:59:26,400 Like they've made hides out of everything else. 2136 01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:28,700 Like, why wouldn't they? It's kind of unbelievable. 2137 01:59:28,700 --> 01:59:30,900 They wouldn't have thought of that but because they they 2138 01:59:30,900 --> 01:59:33,400 surely did take the bones because that stuff is valuable. 2139 01:59:33,900 --> 01:59:36,800 Yeah, yeah. He's the bones. 2140 01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:37,900 Yeah. You know that. 2141 01:59:37,900 --> 01:59:39,300 So that's why it's here and there. 2142 01:59:39,300 --> 01:59:43,600 Yeah, good point. So yeah, I wonder if there's any 2143 01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:46,200 other like heavily armored beasts in A Song of Ice and Fire 2144 01:59:46,200 --> 01:59:50,600 that you could make armor out of like the old unit like those. 2145 01:59:51,300 --> 01:59:52,900 Yeah, like a unicorn. Yeah. 2146 01:59:52,900 --> 01:59:54,900 The unicorns and something that was like stronger. 2147 01:59:54,900 --> 01:59:57,200 Hide perhaps. Yeah. 2148 01:59:58,200 --> 02:00:00,400 Christina cuddle says Orchid ill. 2149 02:00:00,400 --> 02:00:02,200 I never do know how to quite say your name's. 2150 02:00:02,200 --> 02:00:04,100 Christina told you. I said many times we can say 2151 02:00:04,100 --> 02:00:05,200 Christina. Gags. 2152 02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:07,400 I know, I know, I forgot that when I said it, then I know I 2153 02:00:07,407 --> 02:00:08,500 should have just said Christina K. 2154 02:00:09,300 --> 02:00:12,100 She says, man, I didn't know any of this but Boca Tanning was not 2155 02:00:12,100 --> 02:00:13,400 kidding. When she said, the mandalorians 2156 02:00:13,400 --> 02:00:15,800 are Their Own Worst Enemy, right? 2157 02:00:15,800 --> 02:00:19,700 They kind of make the ironborn, looks like Patsy's, and how 2158 02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:22,300 maybe not, though. That's a similar span of time. 2159 02:00:22,300 --> 02:00:28,200 They've been losing and often to themselves, but the ironborn 2160 02:00:28,200 --> 02:00:30,200 least have that taboo against fighting each other, which is 2161 02:00:30,900 --> 02:00:34,500 not always upheld, but that probably helps them. 2162 02:00:35,000 --> 02:00:36,600 In a way that the mandalorians don't have. 2163 02:00:37,600 --> 02:00:40,800 So, but something I forgot to mention, by the way, there was 2164 02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:43,400 kind of an irony that the children of the watch is beliefs 2165 02:00:43,600 --> 02:00:48,100 became so powerful because they were exiled to conquer Dia and 2166 02:00:48,100 --> 02:00:50,400 then those cataclysms happen. So they were one of the few 2167 02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:53,300 subgroups didn't get wiped out. So it's like the old guard. 2168 02:00:54,300 --> 02:00:57,900 It was a benefit being exiled. When all the people left on the 2169 02:00:57,907 --> 02:01:00,700 home world were slaughtered. So little note, I forgot to 2170 02:01:00,700 --> 02:01:03,100 mention there. All right, folks, the trivia 2171 02:01:03,100 --> 02:01:07,500 question. The question was, which location 2172 02:01:07,500 --> 02:01:11,300 on the iron islands has the best forges? 2173 02:01:11,900 --> 02:01:15,400 The answer is Lord's. Porch words. 2174 02:01:15,400 --> 02:01:16,600 Port. Yes. 2175 02:01:17,200 --> 02:01:20,300 Lourdes. Guess it's said they make axes 2176 02:01:20,300 --> 02:01:24,300 swords ring mail and hauberks second to none and Seven 2177 02:01:24,300 --> 02:01:27,100 Kingdoms. Yes, another reason to fear the 2178 02:01:27,100 --> 02:01:29,300 ironborn is they are actually pretty good at making armor and 2179 02:01:29,308 --> 02:01:33,400 weapons unlike a lot of like piratical Archers pirate. 2180 02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:37,900 All right yeah next week is highgarden if you want to stay 2181 02:01:37,900 --> 02:01:41,300 immersed. Well, what better place than to 2182 02:01:41,300 --> 02:01:43,000 check out our blackfyre Rebellion series. 2183 02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:45,400 All of them not just the bloodraven ones at the end but 2184 02:01:45,407 --> 02:01:48,800 also the ninepenny Kings stuff. We mentioned them as pirate 2185 02:01:48,800 --> 02:01:51,900 Lords and such which would make a good fit for the Death. 2186 02:01:51,900 --> 02:01:55,000 Watch has alliance with the shadow Collective, lots of 2187 02:01:55,000 --> 02:01:58,400 parallels there so check that out if you're so inclined. 2188 02:01:58,600 --> 02:02:01,600 Otherwise we'll see you next week for another new episode. 2189 02:02:02,000 --> 02:02:05,700 Thanks to Yahoo came and participated live. 2190 02:02:06,300 --> 02:02:08,300 Thanks to those of you who support us on patreon or 2191 02:02:08,300 --> 02:02:11,800 Spotify, with a subscription of voluntary monetary donation. 2192 02:02:11,800 --> 02:02:14,200 You give every month is really important to keeping our show 2193 02:02:14,200 --> 02:02:16,200 going and keeping us, strong and healthy. 2194 02:02:16,700 --> 02:02:19,700 Thanks to Joey and Jesse and bran, and Michael. 2195 02:02:19,700 --> 02:02:23,700 Carr, felled for our video intro, our music all that great 2196 02:02:23,700 --> 02:02:26,800 stuff. Thanks to our benjin year for 2197 02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:31,200 the sound quality assistance. Thanks to those of you who came 2198 02:02:31,200 --> 02:02:33,400 to see me. On Twitch, we've moved our game 2199 02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:36,600 streams over to Twitch, we played Tywin Lannister this past 2200 02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:41,300 Friday and that was good times playing Tywin trying to roleplay 2201 02:02:41,300 --> 02:02:45,100 ruthless evil dude. You know, it's not my normal 2202 02:02:45,100 --> 02:02:49,100 attitude but it's one of the fun things with playing that game is 2203 02:02:49,300 --> 02:02:50,800 trying to role play these characters. 2204 02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:54,300 We know so well and trying to roleplay the ones we don't know 2205 02:02:54,300 --> 02:02:57,600 so well also. Yeah and we need to get a 2206 02:02:57,608 --> 02:03:01,700 certain number of streams in in a 30 day period. 2207 02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:04,800 On Twitch in order to unlock certain features. 2208 02:03:05,100 --> 02:03:07,700 So I think we're going to do just some random little live 2209 02:03:07,700 --> 02:03:10,300 streams on their plans and games. 2210 02:03:10,300 --> 02:03:13,000 I play some fighting games in my free time. 2211 02:03:13,100 --> 02:03:15,400 Yeah. Like Street Fighter and Tekken 2212 02:03:15,400 --> 02:03:17,600 and Skullgirls, and other fighting games. 2213 02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:22,200 And so I think I will do a couple sessions playing that if 2214 02:03:22,200 --> 02:03:24,200 you if he does game sound great to you. 2215 02:03:24,300 --> 02:03:27,000 Let us know in my Parish a particular way. 2216 02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:30,000 Play with me like the kind of thing where I could be like hey 2217 02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:31,600 log on and let me see, you can bike. 2218 02:03:31,800 --> 02:03:34,200 Code and we can play fighting games together point. 2219 02:03:34,200 --> 02:03:37,000 But really it's just that we need to get seven streams in a 2220 02:03:37,008 --> 02:03:41,400 month that I reach over an hour. So this is our twitch Channel, 2221 02:03:41,400 --> 02:03:43,900 not the YouTube, but yeah, if you're interested in that then 2222 02:03:44,200 --> 02:03:47,500 you know, fighting games, Crusader Kings maybe some beats 2223 02:03:47,500 --> 02:03:50,800 saver, if I'm real ambitious with my try Witcher 3 on there, 2224 02:03:50,800 --> 02:03:53,000 that's a real popular game, I haven't played it and we already 2225 02:03:53,000 --> 02:03:55,400 have, you know, a lot of we do with your podcast that I could 2226 02:03:55,400 --> 02:03:57,700 be some comparisons. So if you if any of those game 2227 02:03:57,700 --> 02:03:59,400 sound appealing to you, let us know. 2228 02:03:59,400 --> 02:04:01,600 Well will partly decide based on feedback. 2229 02:04:01,800 --> 02:04:04,700 Of course, the the Friday streams of Crusader Kings 2, for 2230 02:04:04,700 --> 02:04:06,600 A Song of Ice and Fire, three continue. 2231 02:04:06,700 --> 02:04:08,600 Sorry, Crusader Kings three, that's right. 2232 02:04:08,600 --> 02:04:11,200 Important distinction. There will continue especially 2233 02:04:11,200 --> 02:04:12,700 in June, will be hitting it hard in June. 2234 02:04:12,700 --> 02:04:15,900 And then it'll be a little more periodic after that, but still 2235 02:04:15,900 --> 02:04:18,000 pretty regular but yeah. All right. 2236 02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:20,800 All right, folks, you know what to do until next time? 2237 02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:25,300 Same as always, this is still as important as always, Valar 2238 02:04:25,300 --> 02:04:26,400 Reedus.