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The free city of cohort cost, 
nothing. 

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You can have it or not. 
No, it's one of the nine, the 

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farthest east, probably the most
magical at one point, perhaps 

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the most wealthiest maybe not so
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famed for their goods. 
And their proximity to the old 

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region of Tsar nor and the 
Dothraki sea currently Fame, for

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their goods and their bed. 
All right, bad point. 

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Good point. 
So we'll be dealing with their 

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entire history as much of it as 
we can what we know their 

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connections to valyria and the 
current story what characters 

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are featured. 
Who's Corey? 

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Who's been to go horror all that
fun stuff and more on this 

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episode of history of Westeros 
podcast. 

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Hello my fellow historians. 
Welcome back to another episode.

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Shawn you've got a Nirvana shirt
that has Owen Wilson on the 

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front instead of her. 
What's the deal with that? 

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Is this one of those that what's
that thing where everyone has 

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like a shared false memory? 
You know? 

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Owen Wilson was it lead singer 
and that is news to me. 

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Hmm. 
Hey bear striking resemblance 

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well never mind. 
I am not drinking coffee today. 

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I've got tomato juice in my 
giant storm trooper cup is 

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things go well and another Storm
Troopers and tomato juice 

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tomato. 
Juice tomato, have a Red Bull 

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have dragon fruit. 
Red Bull, mix with the protein 

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Berry naked drink and Sparkling 
Ice Fred right on. 

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It's a little tart, little tart,
more tart than my usual actually

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probably super sweet to most 
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I'm gonna call it a little slut.
I would have been stronger 

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description of that more - it's 
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out. 
Good Queen Ali. 

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Dot tumblr.com. 
That's a lie with one, L Nina, 

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got a good question about the 
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somewhat related to our 
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marriages of Serena and Sansa 
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again and all of them and try to
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So good post. 
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Inna has some good thoughts on 
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there, even though we can't be 
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more world-building, heavy 
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That's at the end. 
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this trivia question? 
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deity of cohort. 
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Ice and Fire was jokingly 
referred to as a black vote, 

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whom do I refer The first 
mention of cohort or is here 

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quote. 
Danny had cried when the red 

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door closed behind them forever.
They had wandered. 

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Since then, from Bravo's to Mere
Vermeer to tie Roch and onto 

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cohort, and volantis and Lease 
never staying long in any one 

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place. 
Her brother would not allow it. 

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The usurpers hired knives were 
close behind them. 

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He insisted, though, Danny had 
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just stayed. 
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the reason she'd never seen one 
was because there weren't any. 

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Of course, if you've seen hired 
knives might be in big trouble 

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if they're close enough to be 
seen. 

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But anyway, so it's free comes 
up first obviously, as a part of

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Danny's back story, particularly
her flight from Westeros. 

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After her family, loses the 
throne in a lot of stories, 

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these places might only be 
names, just that nothing more 

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places that the author invented.
Fill out this piece of backstory

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but since this is A Song of Ice 
and Fire, all of these places 

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are well developed. 
Several of them, we've been to 

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lots of detail onto history, six
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listed there. 
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free cities. 
It's kind of an odd route 

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braavos to mirror that I rush 
around a cohort. 

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That's way that got bear then 
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the way back south maybe now 
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Maybe she doesn't have the 
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But also George had drawn to map
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awesome cohort. 
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You gotta do what you gotta do. 
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true. 
Maybe they're like What's run 

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really far like it. 
My, it does, it sound like it 

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doesn't make sense. 
It's just a question because the

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map was different back then 
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it's still rewrite, it totally 
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Bill makes sense to go 
somewhere, whatever the 

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opportunity they had or whatever
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They're working off. 
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of Atlantis is a lot easier than
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go Downriver. 
Dow, go down the coin. 

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Fell into the wrong, all the 
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You just float all the way down 
and pick it. 

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An inner tube all the way from 
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Yeah. 
Coin with thank you all the way 

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to volantis. 
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So that's six of the nine free 
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Pentecost which of course where 
she is when she's having this 

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quote and law rapid nervous or 
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If you maybe never went to 
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Now of those nine, go horse, 
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I said, probably because, you 
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the front and public, so there's
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doors and be sure. 
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obviously stuff going on in this
might be A little contrary or 

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less exciting, the most people 
want but I tend to always want 

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to kind of downplay magical and 
fantastic element. 

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what does that mean? 
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magical, right? 
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nine of them have one dollar and
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he's the richest one? 
Why stage? 

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Which is anyone up, but it's 
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humble. 
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Yeah. 
So yeah, you're right. 

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be noteworthy, probably more 
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scene. 
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magic fainted or a person only 
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change your world perspective, 
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go to that City and like, 
everyone's flying around. 

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I magic carpets and everyone's 
like drinking potions of 

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immortality is really just? 
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Totally. 
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I don't see it that way more 
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not that much. 
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this point up that, and in 
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to what Saying cohort is the 
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away, farthest east, which isn't
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travel, but it's perhaps, the 
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Maybe lorath would be. 
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Westeros the bigger, the rumor 
mill is going to be the less 

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actual information. 
They have the more links and the

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whisper chain. 
Yes, game of tell ya, the more 

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time to be exaggerating the more
difficult to verify, the rumors 

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are Spanish and talk about 
cohort, and no one's gonna be 

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like Been to cohort, that's not 
true you know like no one. 

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Nina writes. 
I can only imagine how Daenerys 

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Saco horror during however long 
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She never thinks about it. 
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first experience with a 
widespread prevalent practice 

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with magic or just the first 
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to the extent that cohort really
is a Haven for sorcery and blood

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magic and it is to some extent 
though. 

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We don't know to what level like
John's correct question. 

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Just how much there is. 
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with the continuing practice of 
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trying to figure out what they 
did and we mixing it. 

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So Danny may have been exposed 
to that somewhat. 

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Are they? 
She may have just been too young

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to have really understood 
anything. 

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Like when you're 5 or 7 year old
distinguishing magic between 

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just cool stuff. 
Is well you're not very good at 

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that. 
Are you like that? 

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Viserys isn't probably going to 
Be the best teacher. 

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I mean, he's the guy telling 
them they're telling her, 

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there's hired knives following 
them. 

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When there aren't he does seem 
more likely to play it up here. 

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You know, to keep her uncertain 
of reality. 

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You know, he might have gives 
him more control over her. 

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He might have said, things like,
you know, the we came from a 

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family that used to be part of 
society, ruled all this. 

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You know, that's maybe more 
along the lines of things he's 

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gonna point out. 
We also actually see not cohorts

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specifically, but the forest of 
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So we get a little more right 
away, almost right away, quote, 

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for half the moon, they rode 
through the forest of cohort, 

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where the leaves made, a golden 
canopy high above them and the 

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trunks of the trees were as wide
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There were a great elk in that 
wood and spotted tigers and 

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lemurs was silver fir and Huge 
purple eyes but all fled before 

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the approach of the callous are 
and Danny got no glimpse of 

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them. 
Yeah. 

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I mean 100,000 people. 
Yeah the animals would run away 

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from that, that's how roughly 
how big Brokers khalasar was. 

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So even though she's riding in 
the front yeah they're animals 

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feel the ground rumbling. 
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that we should get the heck out 
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It must have been very wondrous.
The Danny going through. 

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The forest of Co horror. 
This is someone who had lived in

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cities most of her life. 
Led the red door as we just saw 

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and wanted to go back there. 
So not only does this Forest 

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particularly interesting and 
deep and huge, it might be the 

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biggest forest in the known 
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So it isn't just big and fancy. 
And interesting, it's 

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particularly massive and there's
things in there that you would 

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never see anywhere else. 
Like it says trunks of trees as 

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wide as City Gates. 
I mean that's like redwoods you 

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know. 
Like that's the closest 

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equivalent on on Earth and 
redwoods really are that big. 

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I mean, there's redwoods you. 
Can drive a car through. 

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I don't mean you can, like, 
theoretically, I mean, you 

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literally can't like they have 
it carved out, and you can drive

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the car through it, like roads 
flow through the center of the 

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trees, not through the forest of
trees, but through a individual 

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trees. 
So, if you've never been to the 

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Redwood forest in California, 
it's or I mean, it's not all in 

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California, I believe that leave
its pants outside of California,

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but whatever it's super cool. 
It's a bucket list thing. 

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I suggest it's not on your 
bucket list. 

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Maybe you should add it. 
It's really just Yeah, it's hard

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to those trees are so big. 
And, and so old, they have soil 

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up like 100 feet in the air 
there. 

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You know, grass grows on their 
limbs are. 

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You know, there's animals that 
live up there that have never 

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touched the ground and never 
will they have no reason to, 

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they're like, well, we live up 
here so there's almost certainly

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that sort of fauna and scenario 
going on in the forest, bitch 

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whore to. 
Yeah, the branches have been 

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entangling and whining for so 
long. 

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As Sean said that they actually 
have a, they actually conformed 

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to hold the soil layer or 
multiple. 

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So yeah, it's It's kind of hard 
to Fathom that forests and be 

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like that, but it's true. 
So, the huge golden canopy, that

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Danny sing here is, is sort of 
an extension of that as well, 

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where it sends out, I suppose 
there's thicker areas where you 

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wouldn't have any light coming 
through. 

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So, that's pretty pretty 
amazing. 

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And we're guessing that George 
was kind of, thinking of the red

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report, she's probably been 
there. 

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And if not, he's seen pictures 
and well, George likes to go big

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and well, there's the biggest 
trees we have in the real world.

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So, yep, that's the inspiration.
And probably Nina agrees 

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guessing that he was probably 
thinking of the Redwoods. 

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Here's the first we're up. 
Oh yeah, we're Ash a group. 

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That's right. 
So, she has some familiarity 

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there and I was with you when I 
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believe. 
Yeah, I guess I don't know if 

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that was your first time but you
were sure with me. 

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When you saw that was my only 
time. 

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Yeah. 
So yeah, yeah. 

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That was pretty cool. 
I was part of my missing last 

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week's episode is I was out in 
California. 

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We went to it was a state park, 
not a national park that had 

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some redwood trees there. 
They were younger ones, they 

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were Whereas massive but you see
the tree trunks of some massive 

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ones they have been chopped down
there were like I don't know, 

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three of me why I kind of like 
this and I doubt those are even 

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like the biggest ones during 
those are pink wood trees. 

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When you're the first mention 
other first mention here are Co 

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subject the patron deity of 
cohort. 

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Not exactly as popular elsewhere
but quote is this your own 

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scheme? 
He gasped out embarrass. 

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Are you in League with 
Littlefinger? 

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That's it. 
To amuse the eunuch, I would 

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sooner wed the black goat of 
cohort. 

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Little finger is the second most
devious man in the Seven 

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Kingdoms. 
That's a great quote. 

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He's like so you're calling 
yourself. 

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Number one, aren't you - yes? 
Yes, I am and I earn I deserve 

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it. 
Don't I? 

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Hmm. 
Yeah, probably you do probably 

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you do. 
I wonder about virus because 

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this is not a casual mention 
necessarily he isn't emanates, 

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emanates or Originates from 
essos. 

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So he would know more about the 
black vote than your average 

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westerosi and he may have even 
been there. 

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He's probably been to cohort. 
He was in a traveling Mummers 

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troop after all, and they would 
go to the large cities and 

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cohort is one of them cohorts, 
fairly wealthy. 

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So it seems like it would be a 
very likely Target for traveling

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group of performers. 
He was in that group for a while

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so there's very likely, he's 
been there. 

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Now we've seen mirror and lease 
and tie Roch as quote, sister 

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cities of each other and 
daughters and they're sometimes 

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called the truth. 
They were the try our key for a 

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while there. 
So they're often embroiled or 

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Allied or something lorath 
nervous and cohort or something 

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of an equivalent. 
They're, they're not as 

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connected. 
They don't fight each other as 

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often as merely Sentai rash, but
there they have a lot of things 

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in common. 
So as we discuss the founding 

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and Geography of boho or we talk
about things like this. 

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All three of those were founded 
by religious dissidents but 

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under different circumstances 
under different times. 

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Here's what the world of Ice and
Fire says of it. 

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Now even more mysterious than 
nervous and lorath is their 

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Sinister sister, the free city 
of cohort eastern. 

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Most of all the daughters of 
Illyria Co R stands in the 

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river, coin on the western edge 
of the vast dark primordial 

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Forest to which she gives her 
Name. 

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The greatest would in all of 
essos looked at me as your guys 

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are lucky. 
That that quote, I did there. 

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I have nobody catch the 
together. 

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What I saw is, he's like, the 
way, his eyes just like looked 

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at me. 
He's fucking okay. 

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I said it though, I don't mess 
it up. 

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You did it. 
You did it. 

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I did it. 
I said I did the greatest 

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wouldn't hold back so I can tell
For most of the free cities, it 

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almost wasn't. 
There is a city called s Aria, 

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which was a Valyrian Colony 
that, never really got going 

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because the Doom happened and 
then this Rocky destroyed it. 

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So having had more time passed 
over or may not have been 

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considered the easternmost, the 
free cities and that's assuming 

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a sorry. 
I even became a free city, which

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maybe it never would have been. 
It may have been more like a 

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mint re sore, one of these 
cities that mantar is this 

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mantar, is that when are we 
gonna hear about woman, Tory 

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spear? 
Seriously. 

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And that which is ruled by 
valyria, but was considered one 

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of the three seasons, direct 
direct ruled I suppose. 

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So anyway, Course, it's on the 
coin River. 

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I kind of wonder which name came
first, probably the coin and 

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cohort was named after that, 
which is a little odd because 

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the coin is a rhoynar name, but 
so cohort could just be a 

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coincidence. 
They both start with q, but when

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students with the queue, yes, 
coincidence, with a coins 

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coincidence and the coin, of 
course, has that name. 

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It's a tributary of the Rhine. 
Voss. 

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It's on the knowing mirror, sits
on the Moines and pain toss, 

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it's on the point. 
Yeah, just sits on the know you 

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made that made most of the Rind 
annoying is real and the coin is

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real. 
A different name for the coin, 

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is the darkling daughter. 
That's a, like, a nickname for 

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that area. 
The dark wash is another 

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tributary that feeds into the 
coin, which then feeds into the 

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Rhine main branch, that is so 
throughout all the worship of 

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the river and the long-standing 
naming. 

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And civilization, that lived 
along at there have been a 

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variety of nicknames and ways to
refer to different regions of 

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it. 
And I wonder if cohort coexisted

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with the rhoynar, it may not 
have though. 

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It may have. 
If it did then they would have 

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traded with the city of our Neu,
which is the green marble city 

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of one of the, you know, one of 
the ruins, of course. 

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And that would be interesting, 
or maybe they just sort of took 

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over that region after our tour 
was destroy. 

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That would make sense as well. 
We do not know how old cohort. 

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It's not like lorath where it 
was founded by religious 

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dissidents. 
Followers of bow, Ash or 

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whoever. 
And then that cult died out long

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before current times and the 
Valyrian expansion to include, 

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it was an add-on rather than 
thing was founded as part of the

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earth. 
Whereas cohort seems to have 

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been like a Myna, Lumber Colony 
that at some point, was taken 

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over by followers of black goat 
and then became cohort. 

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So its Origins are a bit humble 
but it the point or one of the 

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main points takeaways here, is 
that That it was Valerian almost

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from the get-go. 
As soon as it was recognized as 

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a major spot, they would also be
trading with nor vas, Laura 

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half. 
Of course because there's a 

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sister cities that are close by,
probably a good amount of trade 

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with It, Babe, Nina. 
Suggest that a lot of people and

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products from probably make 
their way to cohort, but less so

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than some of the other places 
because it's not on the coast, 

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it's not a port. 
It's by the forest of cohorts, a

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River Port, but that River 
doesn't extend into the The 

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northern Seas. 
So despite its proximity Goods 

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might go through another spot 
before getting the Cold War. 

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Now, Urban would also make a 
very good market for cohorts 

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Timber exports. 
But cohort or mostly a shipping,

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their Lumber down river. 
Because that's easy float, the 

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logs than the current just takes
them down to wherever they need 

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to go. 
Whether that's to all the way to

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volantis perhaps or one of the 
steps along the way, one of the 

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smaller cities, one of the 
unmarked Villages or probably 

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Lumber camps and miniature towns
that are focused on just cutting

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trees and processing them for 
castles and homes and whatever 

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tools. 
Of course this our Nori cities 

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were there in addition to the 
cities of the Rhine. 

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This were more sure of that 
there was trade going back and 

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forth. 
Nina says cohort is sort of like

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the Western associate equivalent
of qarth and maybe that's why 

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their names are a little 
similar, just from an authorial 

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perspective. 
Just as car sits on the border 

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between the more well-known and 
well documented, part of the 

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assoc continent least, as far as
See documentation goes and less 

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so more mysterious areas like 
e.t. laying in the shadowlands 

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cohort straddles. 
The more urbanized portion of 

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Western SOS, right Western SOS 
is where there's a lot more 

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cities, Less open spaces more. 
It's also more familiar and it's

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farther away from the Dothraki 
sea. 

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But Gore's right there, the 
forest is what divides it from 

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the diffraction. 
See if it wasn't for that or 

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might not be there anymore more 
on that later. 

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I want to point out another 
primary use of lumber In 

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addition of, you know, building 
parts and tools and houses and 

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stuff. 
But but maybe the main thing 

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because once you build a house 
that's it, you don't need more 

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wood but firewood that's her 
gets use for ya. 

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Now, in cart a carts in qarth, I
mean in cohorts but with a cute 

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right Q AR T. 
Let's also take a quote here 

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that discusses more about its 
position in the region and what 

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that does for it financially. 
Cohort is also famed. 

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Is the gateway to the east or 
trading Caravans Bound for vaes 

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dothrak and the fabled Lands 
Beyond the Bones are outfitted 

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and provisioned before heading 
into the Gloom of the forest. 

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The Desolation that was Tsar nor
and the vastness of the Dothraki

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sea conversely, Caravans 
returning from the East come 

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first cohort to refresh 
themselves. 

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After the crossing and sell and 
trade the treasures, they have 

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acquired This trade has helped 
to make cohort. 

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One of the richest of the free 
cities and surely the most 

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exotic though. 
It is said the city was 10 times

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richer still before the 
destruction of star nor with its

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gleaming Alabaster cities 
shining lakes and fertile Farms.

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Yeah, this is super important. 
This is a city that sits in 

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between a lot of major trade 
routes from different regions, 

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based do Frack itself. 
As a bustling Market remember, 

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Danny visiting there and seeing 
things from all over seeing 

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people from as far as a shy and 
the shadowlands. 

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In addition to people from the 
free cities and that's based, 

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oh, Frack not cohort, which 
would have a lot more of that 

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sort of thing. 
And you can just imagine back in

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the day, when Tsar nor was there
all like, it says the gleaming 

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Alabaster cities they were 
trading with all those cities 

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and boy, that must have gotten 
them quite a lot of Bank, the 

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trees they could have sold to 
Sorry, Nora cities and the goods

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that the past through the taxes,
they levied, the food, they sold

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to people going back and forth 
is Caravan by huge amounts of 

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food and water, and exchange 
goods from far away and 

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information. 
You know, that's gonna travel 

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through there, you know, people 
would have learned, little tips 

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of the trade or whatever and all
sorts of different aspects of 

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life, and News of the World, and
itself would be a value at. 

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I don't know about books and 
such to. 

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That's a great point. 
Sean like that is something that

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they do at the market of based 
oath. 

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Rock example that we just used 
is drawers like me, go see if 

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there's some letters, you know. 
And yeah, of course he's sort of

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doing a little chicane hurry 
there, but still the point is 

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he's able to do that. 
There is able to use that spot 

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to communicate and even though 
it's all the way back in 

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Westeros, so he's trying 
communicate within the show, 

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they actually made a cohort that
that you're sent his message 

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from about Amy's pregnancy. 
Like as soon as he's told she's 

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pregnant, he's like Gotta ride 
the cohort. 

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I'll meet you guys later and 
it's like, hello, like, it's 

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soon as he finds out he's 
pregnant. 

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He runs not quite as subtle, but
Also like you said information, 

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not just news, but techniques 
like how to do things like how 

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to make higher quality Goods 
cohort is known for the best 

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swords and armor in the world 
that we know of potentially Nick

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not counting, Valyrian steel. 
But even they work with Valyrian

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steel, I'm talking about, you 
know, regular steel. 

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But also they have fancy like 
wooden goods and lots of other 

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things. 
And a lot of that they probably 

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learned through contact with 
these other nations. 

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Because those other nations were
there before them. 

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So they're unlikely to have been
The Originators of all these 

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techniques. 
Some of them perhaps sure. 

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But a lot of it they would have 
learned from their neighbors and

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some of them from far away. 
Neighbors. 

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Like you said, Sean is these 
things connect to each other 

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that Caravan from base, growth 
Rock would maybe go back to 

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cohort and then to Bravo 
something like that. 

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But it might continue through 
the bone mountains, all the way 

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00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,400
to like e.t. or jogos nayar, who
knows? 

451
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,400
Trader town, or bonetown? 
Yeah, bonetown go to Bone down. 

452
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:41,500
Hometown our bus. 
So as I said, shortly before, 

453
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:46,700
this Aria was to the east that 
was called Base caddock by the 

454
00:24:46,700 --> 00:24:48,000
Dothraki, wouldn't they 
destroyed it? 

455
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,400
The city of corpses next along 
the road. 

456
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,900
If you're traveling East would 
have been sarna app itself City,

457
00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:56,100
the tall tower. 
So Corps was located near the 

458
00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:58,200
capital, the largest. 
Well maybe not the capital may 

459
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,000
not be the right word, but close
enough. 

460
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:05,100
It's the largest city and thus 
are Nori Empire or They're going

461
00:25:05,100 --> 00:25:08,800
to call it your Wonder referring
back to our noise are no, I was 

462
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,600
nearby and they were known for 
their green marble. 

463
00:25:10,700 --> 00:25:14,300
You wonder about that Source. 
Where does this green marble 

464
00:25:14,300 --> 00:25:16,300
come from? 
And does cohort have access to 

465
00:25:16,300 --> 00:25:18,100
it now? 
Because it would have been our 

466
00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:20,400
noise in that far down, river 
from where cohort is now. 

467
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,200
So, whatever that Source was 
probably some of these mountains

468
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,800
that are just a little bit West 
of the force for cohort is a 

469
00:25:26,808 --> 00:25:30,700
decent, guess I would think. 
But also just the idea of 

470
00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:35,900
coloring strikes me because The 
co horak are the only people who

471
00:25:35,900 --> 00:25:40,100
know how to add color to metal 
without just painting, that's 

472
00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:45,200
what table ummat tells Tywin or 
maybe Ned he says that you know,

473
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,900
everyone else just paints it but
we cohort know how to add color 

474
00:25:48,900 --> 00:25:51,800
to the metal itself. 
So that's why that came up and 

475
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,200
wondering if maybe this 
coloration technique thing is 

476
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,300
actually something that they 
acquired from rhoynar, who knows

477
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,600
just a pretty random gasps. 
But there's a little bit of a 

478
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,900
regional connection there. 
As it says their cohort might 

479
00:26:05,900 --> 00:26:08,000
have been the richest of the 
nine for a while. 

480
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,700
It says maybe 10 times richer 
than it used to be which is 

481
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,100
maybe that's an exaggeration. 
But even if it was only five 

482
00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:19,400
times richer, that's very rich 
and if it was richer than 

483
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,700
volantis, that's a pretty big 
deal because Lantus was 

484
00:26:21,700 --> 00:26:24,200
extremely wealthy being supposed
to Valyrian All That. 

485
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:29,600
So Co whore is we're thinking of
rating the different free cities

486
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:34,200
amongst different categories 
like well magic or size of their

487
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:34,900
military. 
Very well. 

488
00:26:34,900 --> 00:26:38,600
They wouldn't be very do very 
well on that third category, 

489
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,300
size of military. 
But in terms of wealth and Magic

490
00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:43,000
here, they'd be near the top if 
not the top. 

491
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,900
And you don't need as big a 
military to defend yourself as 

492
00:26:46,900 --> 00:26:48,600
you do to go out and Conquer 
other people. 

493
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,600
So if they're just trying to 
extricate themselves secure that

494
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,700
they probably military seems 
fine enough for that. 

495
00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:57,900
Yeah, and they have the money 
to, you know, pay people off. 

496
00:26:57,900 --> 00:27:01,400
They bribe the Dothraki calls, 
sometimes they can hire 

497
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,100
sellswords, like a lot of the 
free cities do most, the free 

498
00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:06,200
cities don't have standing 
armies, but some of them have 

499
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,100
standing Navy's. 
My really sure what cohort has 

500
00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:11,600
as far as a standing Navy. 
They probably have riverboats, 

501
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,200
because River piracy is a thing,
big thing as We saw when Tyrion 

502
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:21,400
and Company went down the Rhine.
Balanced by them being so close 

503
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,800
to the former cities of Tsar nor
is that they're not as close to 

504
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,200
being to the other three cities 
there. 

505
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,600
Perhaps, as I said, maybe not as
remote As lorath in some ways, 

506
00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:34,900
but in some ways, they are more 
remote because Laura is much 

507
00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:39,500
more reachable by ship. 
Nor Voss is the closest to 

508
00:27:39,500 --> 00:27:42,700
cohort, but nor Voss is equally 
close to cohort, as it is to 

509
00:27:42,700 --> 00:27:47,700
Laura, F Bravo's and pentapox. 
So that is nor boss, is a little

510
00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:50,300
bit of little bit of a hub thing
going on, being so close to the 

511
00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:53,400
other ones. 
Meanwhile, cohort has more of a 

512
00:27:53,408 --> 00:27:58,000
distant mystery Vibe going for 
it, that mystery is absolutely 

513
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,100
enhanced by the forest, we had 
the quote about Danny passing 

514
00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:03,900
through, but here's the quote, 
from the world of Ice and Fire, 

515
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,000
the woods that surround Or are 
the principal source of the 

516
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,400
city's? 
Well, the earliest settlement 

517
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,900
here was a lumber Camp, the 
city's history is reveal. 

518
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:18,600
And even to this day it is as 
hunters and Foresters the korok 

519
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,300
are most Fame, The Shining 
cities and sprawling towns of 

520
00:28:23,300 --> 00:28:28,400
the lower Roy hunger for wood 
and their own forests, have long

521
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:33,000
ago, been depleted, cut down and
plowed under four fields and 

522
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,000
Farms huge. 
Barges heavy with Timber Depart 

523
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,500
the docks of cohort every day 
for the long Voyage down the 

524
00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:44,600
coin 2 dagger Lake, and the 
markets of cell whore. 

525
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:50,800
He's ballasts are voluntaries 
and old volantis The Forest of 

526
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,100
cohort. 
Also yields up Furs and pelts of

527
00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:58,900
all kinds, many rare and fine, 
and highly prized, as well as 

528
00:28:58,900 --> 00:29:04,000
silver tin and Amber. 
The vast Forest has never been 

529
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,200
fully explored according to the 
map. 

530
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,800
It's and Scrolls Citadel and it 
likely conceals many Mysteries 

531
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,600
and wonders at its heart. 
I had to not look at you. 

532
00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:18,800
When you said we're going hunger
for what I saw. 

533
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,300
You slightly start to chuckle. 
Terra incognita in the chat said

534
00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:26,800
your mom hungers for wood and I 
also have struggled to keep 

535
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,200
together their so-called whores 
on the western edge of the 

536
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,900
forest. 
It's the farthest east of the 

537
00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:34,800
free cities but it's on the 
western edge of the massive 

538
00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:38,000
course Pearl Harbor. 
It's probably better known than 

539
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,700
we think. 
And as far as the settle things 

540
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:44,000
but still when it says it's 
never fully explored, I totally 

541
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,500
believe that. 
I mean, there's forests in the 

542
00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:50,200
world today that have never been
fully explored. 

543
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,900
So the idea they wouldn't be 
fully explored back in the lower

544
00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:54,800
Tech time. 
The place like this. 

545
00:29:55,900 --> 00:30:01,100
Yeah, that is easy to accept 
Nina guesses, that it's about 

546
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:03,300
the same size as the haunted 
forest north of the wall, which 

547
00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:05,800
is also really huge, but bigger 
than the wolfswood. 

548
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,300
So, Yeah, really, really big but
impossible to say for certain 

549
00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:11,800
that's part of the idea of it, 
not being fully explored, it 

550
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,100
mapping its borders that is it 
going to be precise. 

551
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:17,300
That's going to be true for the 
other ones but we did see that 

552
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:20,100
it took at least the direction 
Danny was walking, which was 

553
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:25,400
riding, which is from west to 
east took two weeks to crossed 

554
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,600
going that direction. 
North south would take even 

555
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,700
longer there. 
There's a lot less reason to do 

556
00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:33,900
that as far as I know. 
So what appears to have happened

557
00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:36,200
back in the day? 
There was a lumber Camp there. 

558
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,000
Is doing its thing. 
It was surely profitable because

559
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,800
it was told this is a very 
profitable industry. 

560
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:48,400
And then in valyria, as we 
discussed, there was a religious

561
00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:51,800
dissidents of different types at
different times. 

562
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,100
And this happens from time to 
time because of malaria was so 

563
00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:59,600
open with religion, they allowed
all religions to practice, and 

564
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,100
some religions don't like other 
religion. 

565
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:03,600
So, they actually don't like 
that. 

566
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,700
Some religions were like, hey, 
we can practice. 

567
00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:10,300
And Do our thing, and they can 
do there's, and we'll all get 

568
00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:12,100
along. 
But not everyone was happy with 

569
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:14,000
that. 
Like the followers of real or, 

570
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,800
for example, they're not so 
happy with other religions and 

571
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:23,900
the black goat followers are one
of those religions and it's kind

572
00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:25,400
of, not hard to see why they 
left. 

573
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,600
Anyway, the black goat seems to 
be a deity of the woods, so it's

574
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,400
kind of like why they picked 
this spot. 

575
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:36,200
Might not have been ideal to be 
in valyria and the first place. 

576
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:42,400
Like Forest God volcanoes. 
That's not you know maybe go to 

577
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,000
the forest might make a little 
more sense for them to kind of 

578
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,100
see. 
It might not have just been 

579
00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:50,200
about wanting to practice their 
religion and persecute other 

580
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,500
religions find a place where 
they were. 

581
00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:55,300
The only one is also seems to be
sort of like a home for them, 

582
00:31:55,300 --> 00:32:00,800
like a, an appropriate place to 
be, given their values and their

583
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,800
beliefs, their values, such as 
they are. 

584
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,200
I put that in quotes, the 
followers of the black voter. 

585
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,300
Nasty punch from what we can 
tell. 

586
00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:11,400
We wonder if there's any ethic 
evren in this area. 

587
00:32:12,100 --> 00:32:17,000
Probably not be if a Kevlar on 
or farther east and that's the 

588
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,700
kingdom of the ethic of Ron is 
if a Kevlar on is that like the 

589
00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:24,000
the SOS Children of the forest, 
Marinette rice. 

590
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,200
That's right. 
That's so it's possible that the

591
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,100
forests used to connect to. 
This are these two areas in some

592
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:34,300
ancient time but maybe they just
were never in this Forest but 

593
00:32:34,300 --> 00:32:36,100
maybe they were because, you 
know children the forest 

594
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:39,400
Apparently being all the forests
in Westeros perhaps that was 

595
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,900
true here. 
Given the sheer size of this 

596
00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:46,800
Forest would necessarily think 
they'd have to flee. 

597
00:32:46,900 --> 00:32:49,200
You know, they could still 
probably be hiding in the deeper

598
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:53,200
parts of this Forest, but it's 
pure guesswork and it's not 

599
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,600
called the kingdom of the ethic 
of Iran, which is to the east, 

600
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,700
so that maybe hints that they 
aren't in this Forest but we 

601
00:33:00,700 --> 00:33:02,900
really couldn't say, for sure. 
No one probably could say for 

602
00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:06,300
sure, even in world. 
By the way, I think George could

603
00:33:06,300 --> 00:33:09,100
have had all his book set in 
that fourth. 

604
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,200
I mean, that's like they fit 
takes two weeks to cross through

605
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,300
it on horse. 
That's a massive amount of 

606
00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:19,500
territory with it. 
Huge potential, for all sorts of

607
00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:20,600
stuff. 
Yeah, I could tell their stories

608
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,300
here, the World building here is
great. 

609
00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:26,500
Its robust So as we'll discuss 
later in the episode, The Force,

610
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:28,600
it's probably important for the 
use of magic, it probably 

611
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,400
relates to it. 
But as its says distinctly, it 

612
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,600
is absolutely important for 
their wealth or their making 

613
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,800
good money for trees and through
the for Flora other flora and 

614
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,600
fauna and different things like 
that. 

615
00:33:43,900 --> 00:33:45,800
Compare it to the vast 
unexplored, jungles of South 

616
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,300
Aureus to the forest of cohort 
or I think there's a few 

617
00:33:48,300 --> 00:33:51,500
comparisons to be made here 
especially using magic as a 

618
00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:54,600
jumping off point. 
We talked about how the Bud. 

619
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,400
Magicians of gothos would have 
loved to get their hands on all 

620
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:03,100
the variety of species their toy
with and do their genetic 

621
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:05,700
manipulation on. 
I would think that that might be

622
00:34:05,700 --> 00:34:07,900
true here. 
Maybe not quite the level of 

623
00:34:07,900 --> 00:34:13,900
biodiversity because it's colder
but substantial biodiversity 

624
00:34:13,900 --> 00:34:16,199
substantial. 
I mean massive I mean there'd be

625
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:20,600
like other things like mushrooms
and more things like that that 

626
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,699
you may not see as much of and 
30's like I'm not enough of 

627
00:34:23,699 --> 00:34:26,300
them. 
LG guy to know to list off all 

628
00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:30,300
the possible differences. 
But still we're talking massive 

629
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:33,100
ancient for an ancient matters. 
A lot, you got old growth, 

630
00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:36,000
you've got under things, you've 
got one of my favorite bands is 

631
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,699
called The Sword and they have a
line about it would Untouched by

632
00:34:39,699 --> 00:34:43,100
axes never heard the sound of 
axes. 

633
00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:45,199
It's so deep. 
They don't even know what an axe

634
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:47,900
is those deep forests. 
So that's that's cool. 

635
00:34:47,900 --> 00:34:50,699
I think of that even though 
there's all these Lumber camps, 

636
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,500
the horse is so vast that 
there's places that have Ever, 

637
00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:58,200
even heard the sound of an axe. 
Yeah, along that same line just 

638
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,400
thinking about if it takes two 
weeks to ride a horse through 

639
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,500
it, like how long would it take 
to chop a robe trees? 

640
00:35:05,700 --> 00:35:07,600
The that distance? 
You know what I mean? 

641
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,300
Like you're just I think maybe 
literally by the time you did 

642
00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:14,000
that new trees to be going back 
to the beginning. 

643
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:15,700
There has to be an act of 
Beverage. 

644
00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:18,700
So like I want in fact they're 
probably is area, is that once 

645
00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:21,800
her chop down, that soil is 
probably pretty fertile and it 

646
00:35:21,808 --> 00:35:24,700
becomes Farmland, it supports 
the area that can Extra Value. 

647
00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:27,700
The ends up coming from them. 
A forest. 

648
00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:30,500
I believe some of the Valyrian 
roads connect up there. 

649
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:34,000
Yes, you can see him? 
Yep, they're there. 

650
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,500
Yeah, you can see them. 
So, that's pretty cool. 

651
00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:39,400
That works out really nicely, as
we've talked about the idea of 

652
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,600
valyrians Neverland roads. 
They used their dragons, they 

653
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,600
can clear a path more easily. 
Maybe that's how they blazed a 

654
00:35:45,607 --> 00:35:49,700
trail through the forest. 
And once there's a trail like 

655
00:35:49,700 --> 00:35:52,200
you said, Sean is so difficult 
to make your not like making a 

656
00:35:52,207 --> 00:35:54,200
bunch of other ones like rough. 
Let's just use this one. 

657
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,800
I mean, why go through The 
effort of making another one. 

658
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,000
This one this road already leads
to base, both Rack, or before it

659
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,600
would have led to sarnath or 
sorry, or both like yeah. 

660
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,500
Why do we need another road? 
So there's probably some really,

661
00:36:06,500 --> 00:36:10,000
really old trees in there. 
Nina says the stoutest tree in 

662
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,000
the world is on a Montezuma 
Cypress and Mexico with the 

663
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,400
trunk measuring 30 feet in 
diameter. 

664
00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:19,300
And the roots are 46 feet but 
that's not part of it for us. 

665
00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:23,600
That's kind of a solo wish tree.
Yeah I was going to point out 

666
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,500
that I there's some parts of 
this of cohort that Me of Mexico

667
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:29,700
City Mexico. 
You think of Mexico is being 

668
00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:33,000
kind of this desert is landscape
but that's goes really big. 

669
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,700
It's bigger than my Texas and 
California and hold Southwest 

670
00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:39,300
put together, and a large part 
of the northern part of Mexico 

671
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:40,800
is pretty desert us, but guess 
what? 

672
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,000
Now, we're Mexico City is. 
It's a huge freaking forest and 

673
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,000
it's surrounded by multiple big 
lakes and I think it's got some 

674
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,200
parallels to. 
I didn't realize it. 

675
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,400
The largest tree was in Mexico. 
Now I wonder if some of that was

676
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,800
inspiring towards to, we'll get 
to it later, but like human 

677
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,800
sacrifice Aztec, culture, or 
There's some parallels there. 

678
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,400
Good point. 
Yeah, there is a lot of 

679
00:36:59,408 --> 00:37:02,400
sacrifice and cohort. 
So that's, that's a good point. 

680
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,600
There was a lot of sacrifice and
among the mashita as you say. 

681
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:13,100
Amber is a major export from 
cohort, it's a major source of 

682
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:15,500
wealth. 
Its treated like a gem in real 

683
00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:20,000
life and it's sort of like the 
blood of trees because Amber is 

684
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,600
fossilized tree resin. 
When you harm a tree like it's 

685
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,700
gouged resin flows to that spot 
and hardened sort of to protect 

686
00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:31,700
like a almost like a scab 
technically resin in the real 

687
00:37:31,700 --> 00:37:33,500
world is classified as tree 
resin. 

688
00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:36,800
That's 40,000 years or older so 
it's like the Warhammer room. 

689
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,300
It's 40,000, so Amber is oh 
sorry. 

690
00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:40,400
Yes. 
Amber my bad. 

691
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,000
Yeah and so if it's been so if 
it's under 40,000 years it's not

692
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:50,500
considered a yet and 10 and 
silver are also mentioned as 

693
00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:53,000
being present which implies the 
presence of Mines. 

694
00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:57,900
So, mining is a real awful 
Endeavor in medieval ancient 

695
00:37:57,900 --> 00:38:01,200
societies. 
It's brutal and involve slavery 

696
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,300
and lots of poisoning of the 
environment and they're not 

697
00:38:04,300 --> 00:38:05,700
fully aware of what they're 
doing. 

698
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,400
But of course, it also, Also 
means wealth 10 is important for

699
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,200
making bronze. 
It's one of the two main 

700
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,200
ingredients of bronze and copper
and Tin silver. 

701
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,100
Obviously I need say very little
about the wealth that comes from

702
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:21,900
Silver. 
Most of the coins in the world 

703
00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:24,600
are probably silver, not our 
world but that may have been 

704
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:29,200
true at one point. 
Most of the coins in the world 

705
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,900
of essos and West was probably 
our silver Maybe not, maybe 

706
00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:35,300
bronze, I don't know. 
And then mature, when you go 

707
00:38:35,300 --> 00:38:38,300
further, back both in the real 
world, or in Martin's rolled, I 

708
00:38:38,308 --> 00:38:40,400
don't know how much 10 was used 
for container. 

709
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,300
Like a little mini has to be 
replaced a nowadays, but canned 

710
00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:46,700
used to be made out of 10 and 
aluminum, has some minor 

711
00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:50,000
advantages and took over for 10.
But I wonder how often 10 was 

712
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,800
just used for cups or cans or 
anything of that, sort of that 

713
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,500
technology to steal stuff. 
Like we do now another human. 

714
00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:59,500
Yeah. 
We'll talk about some features 

715
00:38:59,500 --> 00:39:02,100
of the city itself. 
As is true of several of the 

716
00:39:02,100 --> 00:39:05,700
free cities, they specialize and
thrive in part due to specific 

717
00:39:05,700 --> 00:39:08,400
Industries. 
Quote, The Artisans of core are 

718
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,900
far-famed, cohort, tapestries, 
woven, primarily by The Women, 

719
00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:14,700
and Children of the city are 
just as fine as those woven and 

720
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:17,200
mirror though. 
Less costly Exquisite. 

721
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,900
If somewhat disturbing wood 
carvings can be bought in 

722
00:39:19,900 --> 00:39:22,800
cohorts Market. 
The city's forges have no peer 

723
00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:26,000
tapestries. 
Often have Metals woven into 

724
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,600
them. 
This case, we would expect 

725
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,200
silver to be that precious 
metal, maybe some gold here and 

726
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,900
there as well, but the silver 
would be more plentiful and 

727
00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:36,600
available locally. 
When it says the women, women 

728
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,700
and children are making the 
tapestries, does that suggest 

729
00:39:40,700 --> 00:39:43,800
slave women and slave children, 
or maybe not because it 

730
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,000
certainly that's the case in a 
stupor and Marine. 

731
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:50,000
You have specifically, this 
industry is slaves. 

732
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,500
That's one of the ones where 
Danny here's a case from a 

733
00:39:53,508 --> 00:39:56,100
former slave owners like well 
why are they making all this 

734
00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:57,600
money off? 
This thing that I taught them, 

735
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,800
and he's Are you kidding me, 
bro? 

736
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,100
You're asking me that. 
So this is like you're paying 

737
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:07,800
that muscle. 
She like punishes in more but 

738
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:12,400
the point isn't that it's that 
example was they were weaving 

739
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,700
tapestries. 
They were Loom people. 

740
00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:17,400
Not Loomer, isn't there? 
Many years lemon here, which is 

741
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,900
this there's a lot of skill in 
that tapestries are expensive 

742
00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:24,500
and like like a high-end 
tapestry made by hand like a 

743
00:40:24,500 --> 00:40:28,000
skilled tapestry maker in 
modern. 

744
00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:31,700
X it working by hand can make 
like a yard like a square yard 

745
00:40:31,900 --> 00:40:33,500
in a month. 
Which is to say, again, that 

746
00:40:33,508 --> 00:40:35,400
doesn't mean slaves aren't doing
it here, but if they are, these 

747
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,300
are valuable slaves. 
You know what I mean? 

748
00:40:37,300 --> 00:40:39,900
So either way it's a high-end 
industry. 

749
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,200
And I suspect part of the reason
this city flourished Merkin with

750
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:50,100
mercantilism and was never a 
city of all about war Conquest 

751
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:53,000
was because, like I said at the 
beginning, pretty much right 

752
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,700
away, they were under the 
protection of the Freehold, like

753
00:40:54,700 --> 00:40:59,200
who's going to mess with cohort.
When it's one of a protectorate 

754
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,200
of valyria protector, isn't the 
right technical term. 

755
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,600
It's a free City. 
It's a vassal vessel isn't quite

756
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,100
the right term either. 
But whatever, a lie there under 

757
00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:11,200
the domain are ruled by valyria,
just indirectly. 

758
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,500
Which is why they're called the 
free City, the free City. 

759
00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:17,200
That term is always so confusing
because that you slavery, they 

760
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:21,600
weren't free. 
It's like yeah, independent 

761
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,600
city. 
I wonder if that's a better way,

762
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:24,400
you know. 
Yeah. 

763
00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:27,300
And our world in our 
understanding independence by 

764
00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:28,800
more accurate than for. 
Yeah, that would be. 

765
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,000
Yeah, especially now in the 
current times like without 

766
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,600
valyria in the picture and more 
independent is pretty accurate, 

767
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,100
they are pretty independent. 
Now the this of course 

768
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,700
distinguishes them or makes them
more similar to some of the 

769
00:41:40,700 --> 00:41:42,500
other for you. 
Cities, of course, like Thai, 

770
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:45,500
Roch, and mirror, and Penthouse,
they all have slavery, although 

771
00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:49,600
Penthouse doesn't right now, 
according to the deal that was 

772
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,900
forced on them by braavos but 
they want to have slaves and of 

773
00:41:53,900 --> 00:41:56,400
course braavos was founded by 
escaped slaves, tie Roch was 

774
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,900
founded to be a military Outpost
at first so it did have a 

775
00:41:58,908 --> 00:42:02,300
military bent the military kind 
of angle to it right away 

776
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:05,500
whereas it's kind of evolved in 
something else now but it is 

777
00:42:05,500 --> 00:42:08,400
start that way where score was 
never about military. 

778
00:42:08,500 --> 00:42:10,900
Although it was a bit has always
been about military production 

779
00:42:10,900 --> 00:42:13,600
because It's makes the best 
swords and armor in the World. 

780
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,100
Imagine they make a lot of 
Spears to write. 

781
00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:19,600
If your has a major rheinmetall 
points in the woods shafts and 

782
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,100
great Point great Point. 
Yeah, mmm. 

783
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,800
So nor boss is the most similar 
as we said, but not that 

784
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,500
similar. 
In a lot of ways. 

785
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,000
The similarities are they were 
founded by religious dissidents.

786
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,000
Religion is still really big 
today. 

787
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,100
Whereas, for example, lorath was
founded by religious dissidents 

788
00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:40,300
but it's no longer a 
particularly religious by it's 

789
00:42:40,300 --> 00:42:42,500
changed. 
Nor Boston Laura, I mean or 

790
00:42:42,500 --> 00:42:45,500
Vossen cohorts. 
Still are like that they're 

791
00:42:45,500 --> 00:42:52,500
still very much ruled or semi 
ruled by one particular belief 

792
00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:56,000
system. 
So we have Artisans especially 

793
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,800
blacksmith, but also tapestries 
and hunters and Trappers and 

794
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:02,500
Amber collectors, and Silver 
Mines. 

795
00:43:02,500 --> 00:43:05,400
And the magic stuff, which we 
have yet to fully dive into. 

796
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,500
But as I've been leading up to 
here, with the discussion of the

797
00:43:08,500 --> 00:43:09,800
black, oh, let's talk about 
that. 

798
00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:13,500
This is what sits Atop The City.
It's a patron, deity. 

799
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:18,700
And that is very odd and very 
interesting because it's not 

800
00:43:18,700 --> 00:43:23,500
what you expect to see at the 
top of a bustling Mercantile 

801
00:43:23,500 --> 00:43:27,700
city, is this Really dark, very 
evil, sounding deity. 

802
00:43:27,700 --> 00:43:29,800
That you kind of, might have 
thought, would have people want 

803
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,100
to move past this and then, you 
know, but they haven't. 

804
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:35,200
So, let's talk about the black 
goat, starting with this quote, 

805
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,500
black goat, quote, it is known 
that the bearded Priests of 

806
00:43:38,500 --> 00:43:42,600
norvos regard, the black coat of
Co her as a demon with an 

807
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,100
especially violent treacherous 
nature, of course is what a lot 

808
00:43:46,100 --> 00:43:48,900
of religions say about the 
deities that aren't their own, 

809
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,400
but I kind of agree with recent,
or mosses does sound kind of 

810
00:43:53,408 --> 00:43:56,100
like a demon? 
Even when especially violent 

811
00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:59,400
treacherous nature, for example,
mokoro calls, the Drowned God 

812
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,400
and demons like you're, you 
know, that's no God, it's a 

813
00:44:01,408 --> 00:44:03,900
demon and the cars like careful,
what you say, priest? 

814
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,400
He's not not careful that. 
It's. 

815
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:11,500
Yeah, and we hear that real or 
worshippers in cohort or rioted 

816
00:44:11,500 --> 00:44:13,800
and tried to burn the black goat
down. 

817
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:20,000
So apparently it's represented 
by this large flammable, edifice

818
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,200
of some kind. 
I don't know what I mean. 

819
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,800
It's partly part. 
Tried to burn it down. 

820
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,800
They did fail. 
Either they did fail and that 

821
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,700
was recent. 
That was like Tyrion hears about

822
00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:30,400
this, I think it was Tyrion 
anyway so it's happens. 

823
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,800
This is during A Song of Ice and
Fire that, this rumor comes up 

824
00:44:32,900 --> 00:44:36,100
what was going on there? 
Nina suggest, maybe they were 

825
00:44:36,100 --> 00:44:39,200
putting the black goat to a 
spiritual test, could you know? 

826
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,100
Because they're their God, is 
the god of fire. 

827
00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:44,600
So, if fire consumed, the black 
goat, it would have maybe proven

828
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,300
something to them. 
It would have been more 

829
00:44:46,300 --> 00:44:49,100
meaningful to them than perhaps 
other people. 

830
00:44:49,100 --> 00:44:51,400
Although, for worshippers the 
black hole would have been 

831
00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:53,600
writing tests as well. 
So it would have meant a lot to 

832
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,200
them off. 
But but we're loras, you know, 

833
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,800
they think real or is the only 
God, the one true God. 

834
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,200
And the black goat is just some 
Demon or this, some interloper. 

835
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,300
It doesn't belong on the same. 
Tier, you know, if we're doing a

836
00:45:06,308 --> 00:45:10,500
tier list of God's, we're loras.
Would put real, or on the S 

837
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:14,700
here, and the black goats all 
the way down on the sounds very 

838
00:45:14,700 --> 00:45:16,300
Blast for this. 
Yeah. 

839
00:45:16,700 --> 00:45:19,400
On the beach here for black 
goat. 

840
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,500
I think that I mean I don't 
think I'm stretching much here 

841
00:45:23,500 --> 00:45:26,200
but I think it's Man and the 
book that moment is meant to 

842
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,600
show that rulers kind of rising 
everywhere. 

843
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,000
Yeah, good point. 
Even in the cities, interesting.

844
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,800
And even the city where they get
home religion of something else.

845
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,700
Yeah, that's definitely enough. 
You're right. 

846
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,300
I also I think we'll talk about 
this more later but I think the 

847
00:45:39,300 --> 00:45:42,700
black goat like real or there 
are like two sides to it. 

848
00:45:42,700 --> 00:45:44,500
Right. 
There's the light and the dark, 

849
00:45:44,500 --> 00:45:46,800
right. 
And I almost think the black 

850
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,300
goat is part of like I think the
Drowned God and a black goat are

851
00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:51,000
the same thing, their death. 
They're just, you know, 

852
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,100
different names and different 
cultures or whatever and that is

853
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,200
Is not not without agreement 
within the text. 

854
00:45:57,300 --> 00:46:00,200
I think I think we have a quote 
coming up in a minute here that 

855
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,500
that suggests that. 
Yes, the black coat is a version

856
00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:04,800
of like the stranger. 
Yeah, I mean I think God okay 

857
00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:07,100
you talk about the many-faced 
God we talk about the house of 

858
00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:08,900
black and white that's where you
pick. 

859
00:46:08,900 --> 00:46:12,800
Talk a lot about the idea of 
multifaceted odds, even if that 

860
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,400
is like true somehow, I feel 
like if that is true, the 

861
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,900
follow-through Laura bringing 
the black goat, you're like, 

862
00:46:18,900 --> 00:46:21,600
hey, it's not like death doesn't
exist. 

863
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,300
That might even be part of your 
own religion. 

864
00:46:23,300 --> 00:46:26,300
You just don't realize it If 
they don't realize it, they have

865
00:46:26,300 --> 00:46:29,200
their own agenda or their own or
maybe even if they recognize it 

866
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,500
is part of their religion, they 
still don't want to worship it. 

867
00:46:31,500 --> 00:46:33,200
We should be worshipping 
something different. 

868
00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:36,400
This is I'm not I can this 
actually does bring me to a new 

869
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,000
thought. 
Remember that one of the things 

870
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,800
that the relora star expecting 
is the eternal Summer which know

871
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,800
everyone lives forever. 
So pushing back against the god 

872
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,500
of death is sort of symbolic, in
terms of what their expectation 

873
00:46:51,500 --> 00:46:53,300
is. 
For this Revelation coming, 

874
00:46:53,300 --> 00:46:58,000
true, this Predictions prophecy 
coming to Earth for real. 

875
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,500
So yeah, that's kind of neat 
like they're a getter there. 

876
00:47:00,500 --> 00:47:02,600
Anti-death I like no we're done 
with you deaf. 

877
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,400
We're gonna live forever. 
That's great, right? 

878
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,900
I think so like that. 
We'll see ya. 

879
00:47:10,700 --> 00:47:13,800
Maybe they've loosened up 
somewhat because clearly if 

880
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:19,100
there's enough followers of real
or in cohort have a riot. 

881
00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:21,400
Yes, they didn't succeed. 
Maybe it was a smaller number 

882
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,500
that just the story, really 
traveled. 

883
00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:27,700
Maybe there's only like a dozen 
of them, but still, there's 

884
00:47:28,100 --> 00:47:30,500
perhaps more religious tolerance
and cohort than there used to 

885
00:47:30,508 --> 00:47:32,000
be. 
And that makes sense. 

886
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,500
Given how much the city is about
making money? 

887
00:47:34,700 --> 00:47:37,400
You know, if you're making 
money, you gotta gotta be loose.

888
00:47:37,700 --> 00:47:40,200
It's a lot of these things. 
You can't allow these belief 

889
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,500
systems To stop the flow of 
cash, right? 

890
00:47:42,500 --> 00:47:47,100
That's that's how it seems like 
Barak real, God is money and 

891
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:50,200
that sits behind the black goat 
perhaps and over time as a 

892
00:47:50,207 --> 00:47:53,400
culture like that gets exposed 
to more different other cultures

893
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,000
and religions and gods and time 
passes. 

894
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,800
You know I can see it's natural 
for a new religions to come and 

895
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,400
old ones to Wayne. 
Even if they generally maintain 

896
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,100
control they might and 
especially in a moment like 

897
00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:07,400
we're witnessing in A Song of 
Ice and Fire right now where 

898
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,300
there's General Rising magic, 
this General Rising world. 

899
00:48:10,500 --> 00:48:11,700
Lord, we're seeing new miles 
with. 

900
00:48:11,700 --> 00:48:13,900
We're seeing changing. 
Yeah, yeah, this is a time of 

901
00:48:13,908 --> 00:48:16,100
change. 
We've referred it to refer to it

902
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:18,000
as like the second Age of Heroes
like that. 

903
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,300
So yeah, you would expect lots 
of things to change forever 

904
00:48:21,300 --> 00:48:24,300
potentially and big changes as 
well. 

905
00:48:24,700 --> 00:48:26,800
I would think that behind that 
maybe, yeah, there must there 

906
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,700
might be some benefit to keeping
the black code in place for the 

907
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,300
powers that be and go whoever. 
They are the richest of the 

908
00:48:33,308 --> 00:48:35,900
rich, the elite of cohort. 
They must see some benefit to 

909
00:48:35,900 --> 00:48:38,800
it, or at least it's too much 
for them to push aside. 

910
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,500
So they either they accept it. 
Because getting rid of it would 

911
00:48:41,500 --> 00:48:45,100
cost them too much or be too 
risky or something like that. 

912
00:48:45,100 --> 00:48:48,500
They play nice because there's 
no other no better way or they 

913
00:48:48,500 --> 00:48:50,300
play nice because it actually 
benefits them. 

914
00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:54,000
Maybe they even also understand 
this is the god of death. 

915
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,900
It doesn't mean there can't be 
other gods but death is still 

916
00:48:56,900 --> 00:48:57,800
real. 
We're good. 

917
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,100
It's what we worship except for 
understand these other gods and 

918
00:49:01,100 --> 00:49:04,900
religions but this is still 
death, he's still rules over 

919
00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:06,500
everyone. 
Whatever else you think you want

920
00:49:06,500 --> 00:49:08,100
to worship? 
You know, I can understand him 

921
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,300
having an open mind about other 
religions. 

922
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:11,900
It's and still worshipping this 
one. 

923
00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:15,000
I agree that makes sense. 
So the priest apparently where 

924
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,100
Cowles, which is, you know, 
that's pretty standard operating

925
00:49:18,100 --> 00:49:20,800
procedure for Priests of the 
dark God to wear Cowles, right? 

926
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,300
It's totally the uniform, you're
right. 

927
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,200
But I still wonder about like 
how this came to be how I had 

928
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,200
persists. 
And why people still to this day

929
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,600
would join with like, why would 
you be born into this city and 

930
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:37,400
be like, yeah, worship that, you
know, I think they were tricked 

931
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:38,700
because it's spelled with the 
cube. 

932
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:47,700
Yeah, Nina suggested, maybe 
there's been reasons to be 

933
00:49:47,700 --> 00:49:50,300
thankful to the black coat. 
May be there the way things have

934
00:49:50,300 --> 00:49:53,800
been spun. 
For example, perhaps the most 

935
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,200
basic recent ish reason would be
that maybe they see the black 

936
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,800
goat, having saved the city from
the Dothraki. 

937
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:06,400
The goat stop the horses. 
Four-legged animals, go into 

938
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:11,700
battle goat, came out ahead, 
Yeah, so that might be a reason 

939
00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:17,300
to be to be thankful and that 
fits in with how they worship 

940
00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:20,000
black coat. 
Black coat isn't like a DD that 

941
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,200
they love. 
It's one that has to be 

942
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,200
placated. 
Daily. 

943
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,600
Sacrifices are offered and it's 
supposedly, they believe that if

944
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,300
they don't do this, they'll fall
into ruin or the black coat will

945
00:50:29,300 --> 00:50:33,200
be unhappy and punish them. 
So it kind of makes sense that 

946
00:50:33,300 --> 00:50:36,100
they would have this sort of 
Stockholm syndrome relationship 

947
00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:39,000
with this God, that protects 
them, but also is going to kill 

948
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,300
them if they don't do what he 
says. 

949
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,300
Says it's also like a horse 
sighs go right? 

950
00:50:44,300 --> 00:50:46,100
Not a cute little Billy goes a 
giant Pink. 

951
00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:48,300
Monstrous go. 
Yeah, quote-unquote go. 

952
00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:50,400
Yeah, that's correct. 
That's exactly right. 

953
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,700
When Aria sees, what are you get
to the house of black and white?

954
00:50:53,700 --> 00:50:55,700
She's a whole bunch of deities, 
and some of them and you kind of

955
00:50:55,700 --> 00:50:57,700
gotta think about it to see, 
which is to figure out, which is

956
00:50:57,700 --> 00:51:00,900
which, but not the black goat, 
because it says, a Shaggy, black

957
00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:03,500
goat, the size of an aurochs 
like that one's pretty 

958
00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:07,400
straightforward. 
Yeah, an aurochs is like six to 

959
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,800
seven feet tall. 
We discussed it back in. 

960
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,500
An egg, I think because of the 
pony Of Orcs being kind of like 

961
00:51:13,500 --> 00:51:15,000
Buffalo. 
Yeah, right? 

962
00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:18,000
Hairy buffalo are very buff 
another giant. 

963
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:22,600
So imagine that you buy a goat 
of that size, 6 or 7 feet tall 

964
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,700
maybe standing on its hind legs 
that demands daily sacrifice. 

965
00:51:28,100 --> 00:51:31,000
That's scary. 
That's terrifying, right? 

966
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,300
I mean, yikes. 
So is the worship of the black 

967
00:51:34,300 --> 00:51:38,600
goat connected to sorcery, like 
a lot of religions are so 

968
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,900
powerful and so long-lasting 
because they have real power, 

969
00:51:41,900 --> 00:51:44,500
but that is that is a bit would 
be a very strong explanation 

970
00:51:44,500 --> 00:51:48,200
that is what one, Stannis over 
to real or and Melisandre hidden

971
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,400
believes. 
He's like reluctant to accept 

972
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,800
all this God nonsense, but when 
he saw smells under actually 

973
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,600
predict the future and actually 
do other sorceries, he's like, 

974
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,300
All right. 
Well, you can't go denying that 

975
00:51:59,300 --> 00:52:01,300
that's real. 
He she really did that. 

976
00:52:01,300 --> 00:52:05,500
So if this comes from real or 
then that's real power and I 

977
00:52:05,500 --> 00:52:10,000
can't just shun or despise that 
that explanation would totally 

978
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,800
work for me here. 
As a reason why this creepy 

979
00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:16,900
strange religion is still 
ruling. 

980
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:19,300
We're still so powerful after so
long. 

981
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,400
Seems like the kind of thing 
that would eat itself, it would 

982
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,300
just destroy itself. 
Almost like valyria did, you 

983
00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:26,900
know, although blurry lasted a 
very long time, Lively Rock. 

984
00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:28,700
Add lots of magic to keep itself
going. 

985
00:52:28,700 --> 00:52:31,700
So that maybe also works here as
an explanation. 

986
00:52:32,300 --> 00:52:36,300
I've talked about this before 
sometimes it once you make a 

987
00:52:36,300 --> 00:52:40,200
certain sacrifice towards 
admission a goal and end or 

988
00:52:40,207 --> 00:52:42,900
whatever. 
It's harder to turn back like 

989
00:52:42,900 --> 00:52:47,100
yeah once they've already been 
sacrificing something every day 

990
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:50,700
for years for your life for 
Generations, whatever its it'd 

991
00:52:50,700 --> 00:52:53,200
be really hard to be like we 
should have been done that. 

992
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,100
We're not going to do it 
anymore. 

993
00:52:54,100 --> 00:52:57,400
You kind of you kind of have to 
keep going with your I mean too 

994
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,200
much has already been put into 
it once. 

995
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,000
Matt mining happens that, you 
know, like a week later after 

996
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,400
you stop, Lexi is just the 
beginning, it's gonna get worse,

997
00:53:06,700 --> 00:53:10,000
you're all bad things happen 
because because we stopped or 

998
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,600
there's that also, but I'm just 
thinking of the cost already 

999
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,900
invested, you can't admit to 
yourself that that wasn't worth 

1000
00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:17,500
it, right? 
It's a sunk cost to keep going. 

1001
00:53:17,500 --> 00:53:22,300
It's yeah. 
Here's a direct quote from the 

1002
00:53:22,300 --> 00:53:26,500
kindly man who teaches art is 
teaching Aria how they sort of 

1003
00:53:26,500 --> 00:53:30,000
Envision. 
The black goat there at the 

1004
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,300
house of black and white cohort 
is the black goat, UT the lion 

1005
00:53:34,300 --> 00:53:36,900
of night in Westeros. 
The Stranger all men. 

1006
00:53:36,900 --> 00:53:39,800
Must bow to him in the end, no 
matter if they worship the seven

1007
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,800
or the Lord of Light, my mother 
or the Drowned God or the great 

1008
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,400
Shepherd, all mankind belongs to
him else. 

1009
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,800
Somewhere on the road, would be 
a folk who live forever. 

1010
00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:51,200
You know of any folk who live 
forever. 

1011
00:53:51,500 --> 00:53:55,200
Well, she doesn't. 
But speaking of the immortality 

1012
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,200
stuff that is very relevant in 
this sense. 

1013
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,000
So I like this idea this concept
that yeah, these are all just 

1014
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,100
faces Beth and the Palace of 
black-and-white positions 

1015
00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:07,500
himself top like yeah, we 
figured it out, were the Smart 

1016
00:54:07,500 --> 00:54:10,700
Ones, those are all just death, 
gods, and ours, is the one that 

1017
00:54:10,700 --> 00:54:14,000
actually represents them all. 
They're just Reflections in the 

1018
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,300
lake, you know, where the, where
the true version, but it makes 

1019
00:54:17,300 --> 00:54:22,400
sense because deaf Gods are 
prominent because death is a 

1020
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,100
real thing that happens in every
culture. 

1021
00:54:24,100 --> 00:54:25,900
It's a fact of life, what is 
that? 

1022
00:54:25,900 --> 00:54:28,500
That onion article World death 
rate, still holding steady at 

1023
00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:31,700
100 percent. 
Yeah, but it's not just a fringe

1024
00:54:31,700 --> 00:54:32,500
belief. 
It's not something. 

1025
00:54:32,500 --> 00:54:36,100
Only The Faceless Men claim that
the black goat is one of many 

1026
00:54:36,100 --> 00:54:40,200
versions of the death. 
God even Tyrion says something 

1027
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:45,000
similar on the eve of battle, 
Penny quote, that's stranger 

1028
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:49,300
coming Penny, the black goat, 
the pale child, him of many, 

1029
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,100
Faces call him. 
What you will? 

1030
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,500
That's death. 
Yeah. 

1031
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,200
Death rules over Co horror and 
in some way that is kind of 

1032
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,900
absolutist. 
It's like, well yeah. 

1033
00:54:59,900 --> 00:55:02,500
We're all gonna come 
face-to-face with this one day. 

1034
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,100
But why does it have to be a 
black coat? 

1035
00:55:06,700 --> 00:55:08,400
Why does it have that specific 
face on it? 

1036
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,600
You know, I really wonder about 
that, that's, that's so 

1037
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,800
peculiar. 
So I must be a pretty widespread

1038
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,700
belief that a lot of people 
around the world. 

1039
00:55:14,700 --> 00:55:16,900
See the black goat is a version 
of the god of death. 

1040
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,800
Perhaps the only one that rules 
directly over a city. 

1041
00:55:21,700 --> 00:55:25,100
Perhaps not but arguably there's
some other things that you could

1042
00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:28,000
say are similar like the house 
of black and white doesn't rule 

1043
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,600
braavos. 
Even though they are kind of a 

1044
00:55:29,607 --> 00:55:33,700
death cult or maybe not kinda 
maybe they're just a death 

1045
00:55:33,700 --> 00:55:36,300
called a different kind of death
but they don't rule to use. 

1046
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,900
Are you sure? 
They don't really they kind of 

1047
00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:41,600
do an assessment. 
Yeah they do sort of they do 

1048
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:48,200
have a share of their innocence 
certainly they have a share over

1049
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,700
the rule of who lives and who 
dies. 

1050
00:55:49,700 --> 00:55:54,100
That's that's for sure. 
It demands daily sacrifice and 

1051
00:55:54,100 --> 00:55:56,600
that's kind of wild. 
It doesn't seem like that's 

1052
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,800
changed since the Doom. 
Like, they must have been 

1053
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,600
demanding daily sacrifices 
before the Freehold fell and 

1054
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,000
apparently, it's still 
happening. 

1055
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:09,200
Now, quote, Cavs bollocks horses
are the animals most often 

1056
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,900
problem for the black boots 
altars. 

1057
00:56:11,300 --> 00:56:13,000
But on holy days, condemned 
criminals. 

1058
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,900
Go beneath the knives of his 
crowded priest of his Celtic 

1059
00:56:15,900 --> 00:56:18,900
priests and in times of danger 
and crisis. 

1060
00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:21,400
It is written that the high 
Nobles of the city offer. 

1061
00:56:21,500 --> 00:56:24,500
Their own children to placate 
the God that he may defend the 

1062
00:56:24,508 --> 00:56:26,600
city. 
So honestly, I don't Flinch 

1063
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,700
much. 
It's sacrificing animals, I mean

1064
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,700
in this context and given in 
this world, I mean if you eat 

1065
00:56:32,700 --> 00:56:37,600
animals, it's hard to be that 
squeamish about us sacrificing 

1066
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,100
one. 
But children, who that, I mean 

1067
00:56:41,100 --> 00:56:47,300
that's great shelter and then 
it's true if you eat children 

1068
00:56:47,300 --> 00:56:48,600
this probably doesn't bother 
you. 

1069
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,200
But yeah. 
Need to point out the prince of 

1070
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,000
Pentecost bit which is Is, you 
know they sacrifice the prince 

1071
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,000
of pentos whenever the city 
loses a war or for crop fails. 

1072
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,200
They sacrificed? 
Yeah. 

1073
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,900
Or if the plague happened so 
it's kind of aristocratic 

1074
00:57:01,900 --> 00:57:04,800
privilege mingled with 
sacrifice. 

1075
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,400
Like, well the aristocrats have 
this privilege but if they don't

1076
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:11,400
wield it properly, we get to 
call for their deaths and it's a

1077
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,200
similar sort of scenario, except
that we don't hear about the 

1078
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,700
adults being sacrifice here, the
powerful and cohort of past that

1079
00:57:18,700 --> 00:57:20,500
off to their children rather 
than to the adult. 

1080
00:57:20,500 --> 00:57:24,200
So They're both pretty barbaric.
The pentoshi ways a little 

1081
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:29,100
better since they're not killing
kids but still pretty bad and 

1082
00:57:29,300 --> 00:57:32,400
it's a slippery slope, right? 
What's this was a criminal 

1083
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,500
especially in a city ruled by 
one particular zealous religion 

1084
00:57:36,500 --> 00:57:39,000
like what counts as a criminal 
like you could for your laws are

1085
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,000
written by religious groups. 
And they could easily write the 

1086
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,800
laws to include like blasphemy 
and things. 

1087
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,800
Like, I mean, we have out in the
real world all the time. 

1088
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:51,600
So yeah, criminals, we're not 
just talking murderers and To 

1089
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,100
your we're talking? 
Yeah I know it's a very slippery

1090
00:57:55,100 --> 00:57:57,900
slope of saying we're deciding 
based on our morality. 

1091
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,500
Yeah. 
Morality is the black goat 

1092
00:58:00,500 --> 00:58:04,400
especially that is the morality 
that we're going on, then. 

1093
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,000
Yeah, that's yeah, dangerous 
little bit of a tangent, but I 

1094
00:58:08,008 --> 00:58:10,600
remember talking about, I wish 
you could know what the context 

1095
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,800
was been talking about that 
system and pintos how it at. 

1096
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,700
Least there's some sort of like 
it's like a motivation for the 

1097
00:58:16,700 --> 00:58:18,800
prince to make sure he's doing a
good job. 

1098
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,300
Like even something is out of 
his control like a drought. 

1099
00:58:21,500 --> 00:58:24,400
Well, he better start preparing 
Reserve grains in cases of 

1100
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:25,500
drought. 
Otherwise, he's going to get 

1101
00:58:25,500 --> 00:58:28,800
himself killed but what are the 
kid's supposed to do to prepare 

1102
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,100
themselves to defend the city 
know like, yeah, they're pretty 

1103
00:58:32,300 --> 00:58:34,600
out of control and innocent and 
get punished for it. 

1104
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,000
Anyways, that's a great Point 
John. 

1105
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,700
There is more of a rational 
element to the stick and the 

1106
00:58:39,700 --> 00:58:41,500
carrot and the stick dichotomy 
there. 

1107
00:58:41,500 --> 00:58:42,800
The prince of Penzance has 
motivation. 

1108
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,300
Good thing but the people go or 
like, you sacrifice your 

1109
00:58:45,300 --> 00:58:46,700
children because the Dothraki 
are coming. 

1110
00:58:48,500 --> 00:58:52,200
Like, what is that gonna do? 
I mean, how does that motivate 

1111
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,000
you in a future to be prepared 
for the Dothraki coming? 

1112
00:58:55,100 --> 00:59:00,100
Okay, so it sounds crazy, but 
this is from real life. 

1113
00:59:00,500 --> 00:59:04,500
It's the stories, the Romans, 
and the Greeks tell of Carthage 

1114
00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:09,400
speak to exactly this their 
godbole and or mail cart, 

1115
00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:14,000
Actually sacrificed the children
of nobility when the city was in

1116
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,300
Peril. 
Of course, this is what the 

1117
00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:18,700
Greeks and Romans say the 
carthaginians did, and the 

1118
00:59:18,700 --> 00:59:21,100
Romans sacked, Carthage and 
destroyed all their books. 

1119
00:59:21,100 --> 00:59:23,400
So, we don't actually know if 
this is true, but considering, 

1120
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:24,800
there are multiple sources for 
it isn't. 

1121
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,500
Just the Romans say, it's a 
Greek state to. 

1122
00:59:26,500 --> 00:59:29,100
So, it might be true. 
There's also some pan Vibes here

1123
00:59:29,100 --> 00:59:30,600
because it's a black go. 
Right? 

1124
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:35,100
Go plac. 
Pan was a piper who sometimes 

1125
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,700
encourage people to throw off 
civilization and just go live in

1126
00:59:39,700 --> 00:59:43,900
the woods. 
And he basic and just do that 

1127
00:59:43,900 --> 00:59:48,900
stuff goats in Christianity and 
Western societies, goats were 

1128
00:59:48,900 --> 00:59:51,800
associated with Satan, but that 
was, that was propaganda. 

1129
00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:56,200
That was actually not like, from
ancient times. 

1130
00:59:56,200 --> 01:00:00,100
That was invented as a pushback 
against other forms of 

1131
01:00:00,100 --> 01:00:01,600
Christianity and other 
religions. 

1132
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,000
And that doesn't mean just 
persist today. 

1133
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,600
They're still like goat skulls 
or still like metal bands. 

1134
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,400
Love to show goat. 
Skulls is kind of push back 

1135
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,100
against that old propaganda 
from. 

1136
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,100
Any. 
So that's that's probably part 

1137
01:00:12,100 --> 01:00:16,300
of what, influence George here, 
but an even bigger influence on 

1138
01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:19,800
George was almost certainly HP 
Lovecraft, who we brought up 

1139
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,300
many times here. 
There is a one of the great old 

1140
01:00:22,300 --> 01:00:26,100
ones in the HP. 
Lovecraft deity list. 

1141
01:00:26,100 --> 01:00:31,800
Is the black goat with 1,000 
young, a hellish cloud-like 

1142
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:38,400
entity, who is connected to 
astarte, and Ishtar, and ball in

1143
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,000
some Miss Cycles, which brings 
it all the way back. 

1144
01:00:40,100 --> 01:00:43,500
Back to the carthaginian beliefs
in ball and milk part. 

1145
01:00:43,500 --> 01:00:47,600
So there's multiple paths to get
to the same influence pathway 

1146
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,600
here, pretty cool. 
Isn't there? 

1147
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,200
Some God that like he wanted his
followers to sacrifice their 

1148
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:57,300
firstborn son and I think he 
ended up sacrificing his own 

1149
01:00:57,300 --> 01:00:59,800
wasn't? 
Yeah we just have didn't we just

1150
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:05,000
pass over that holiday recently?
Wait isn't this Easter like 

1151
01:01:05,500 --> 01:01:09,100
right now? 
Where did George get these crazy

1152
01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:12,500
ideas of having People sacrifice
their kids for religion. 

1153
01:01:12,500 --> 01:01:15,300
I didn't choose Easter for this 
on purpose. 

1154
01:01:16,700 --> 01:01:18,500
What happened? 
Our patrons did. 

1155
01:01:20,700 --> 01:01:23,700
That's right. 
The black coat isn't only works.

1156
01:01:23,700 --> 01:01:25,400
Have been cohorts. 
Just the one place where it's 

1157
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,500
the most prominent like a shy. 
It's Worship in a shy where 

1158
01:01:28,500 --> 01:01:30,800
nothing is forbidden. 
You know, talk about religious 

1159
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,100
freedom. 
They certainly have it, they're 

1160
01:01:32,100 --> 01:01:36,400
not shy. 
Now, they chose the black, go to

1161
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:41,300
be their Patron, deity their 
mascot, if you will, when they 

1162
01:01:41,300 --> 01:01:47,200
could have chosen this instead 
the little Valerian quote, like 

1163
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:51,000
many Northerly forests, it 
contains elk and deer in great 

1164
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,800
numbers along. 
Along with Wolves tree cats, 

1165
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:59,000
bores of truly monstrous size, 
spotted bears, and even a 

1166
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,000
species of lemur. 
A creature known from the Summer

1167
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,200
Isles and sith'ari O's, but 
otherwise rarely seen farther 

1168
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,900
north. 
These lemurs are said to have 

1169
01:02:08,900 --> 01:02:14,100
silver white fur and purple eyes
and are sometimes called little 

1170
01:02:14,100 --> 01:02:18,500
valyrians a preserved example of
a lemur from The Forest of 

1171
01:02:18,500 --> 01:02:23,500
cohort can be found stuffed and 
mounted in the Citadel though so

1172
01:02:23,500 --> 01:02:27,600
many hands have padded it for 
luck in their examinations but 

1173
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:32,200
it's fur has long since fallen 
out like a beloved stuffed 

1174
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:36,500
animal. 
I just naturally occurring these

1175
01:02:36,500 --> 01:02:40,500
bees lemurs or this is like a 
blood magic experiment that 

1176
01:02:40,500 --> 01:02:43,500
actually created animals. 
That can breed because most 

1177
01:02:43,500 --> 01:02:45,600
blood magic experience creates 
Darrell Creek. 

1178
01:02:45,700 --> 01:02:48,400
Just like in real life, when you
cross breed animals like 

1179
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,600
donkeys, or mules, or whatever, 
they're usually sterile. 

1180
01:02:51,300 --> 01:02:54,900
So I wonder if this is one of 
those because they're, it's kind

1181
01:02:54,900 --> 01:02:59,400
of an unusual animal. 
And like, real lemurs don't live

1182
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:03,000
in Forest lemurs live in 
Madagascar. 

1183
01:03:03,100 --> 01:03:05,400
And that's it. 
Well, that's where they came 

1184
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:06,400
from. 
They may be, like, they've been 

1185
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,300
taken elsewhere and Madagascar 
is very warm. 

1186
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,500
It could easily, especially 
George will be some magical 

1187
01:03:12,500 --> 01:03:16,200
thing, but it's worth noting. 
It could also be a I can't think

1188
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:20,000
of the term but artificial 
selectivity I think like for 

1189
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,400
example I think it's off the 
coast of Japan. 

1190
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,800
There's this crab that look like
the show of its crab. 

1191
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,800
Looks just like the face of a 
samurai and it's because 

1192
01:03:30,500 --> 01:03:33,400
centuries and centuries 
fishermen when they pulled out 

1193
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,800
crabs that look like the face of
a samurai they throw back in a 

1194
01:03:36,808 --> 01:03:40,600
ones it didn't they kept him. 
So eventually they start to all 

1195
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,800
the ones that survive with that 
DNA pass on that DNA. 

1196
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:44,800
And eventually they all just 
have the face of a samurai 

1197
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,100
direct. 
So It could be that selectively.

1198
01:03:47,700 --> 01:03:50,700
If they were hunting these 
lemurs or feeding the Lemur, 

1199
01:03:50,700 --> 01:03:52,800
they would hunt the ones that 
don't look like valyrians and 

1200
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,100
feed. 
The ones that did that make 

1201
01:03:54,100 --> 01:03:57,000
sense, they might have 
selectively ended up causing him

1202
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,100
to look more and more hilarious 
that you're saying Nina tends to

1203
01:04:01,100 --> 01:04:05,500
agree that it's a little 
coincidental that this number 

1204
01:04:05,500 --> 01:04:10,800
one blood magic spot that's a 
Valyrian now it has just happens

1205
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:15,900
to have these unique Valerian 
looking lemurs and the Nearby. 

1206
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,700
Are they ever sacrificed? 
We're here bulls and bears and 

1207
01:04:19,700 --> 01:04:21,700
other things sacrifice. 
They sacrifice a little 

1208
01:04:21,700 --> 01:04:24,700
valyrians, yikes. 
Probably not there to Valyrian 

1209
01:04:24,700 --> 01:04:25,900
for that. 
Now, they want to sacrifice 

1210
01:04:25,900 --> 01:04:29,300
lesser beings. 
So apparently lemurs in the real

1211
01:04:29,300 --> 01:04:31,000
world used to be as large as 
Guerrilla. 

1212
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:35,500
Everyone ther that big just 
like, whoa, imagine casters me 

1213
01:04:35,500 --> 01:04:37,500
cuz it's really big but it's an 
island. 

1214
01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:40,300
So I had to like you a lot of 
unique evolutionary branches 

1215
01:04:40,300 --> 01:04:43,900
take off including lemurs I'm is
like 20 or something, different 

1216
01:04:43,900 --> 01:04:47,000
species of lemurs and of Course,
you know, I think the really big

1217
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:48,900
gorilla type one to become 
extinct. 

1218
01:04:48,900 --> 01:04:52,000
Most of them are like, I don't 
know, hi under 20 pounds or 

1219
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,400
something, but some of them are 
really like there's one called a

1220
01:04:54,408 --> 01:04:57,900
mouse lemurs three inches long 
and weighs like 10 oz. 

1221
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,900
Like yeah it's crazy. 
Cool. 

1222
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,800
Is it Go wide? 
Variety of very specialized 

1223
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,300
lemurs matter, dusters pretty 
cool lemur. 

1224
01:05:05,300 --> 01:05:07,800
There's another little clue here
that the Lemurs might be 

1225
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:11,000
magically oriented here in 
western or an SOS, because the 

1226
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,900
word Lemur in Latin means ghost 
or spirit. 

1227
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,900
Those are kind of like the 
ghosts of valyria and sense. 

1228
01:05:17,900 --> 01:05:22,100
There are a Remnant, they look 
like malaria, which is gone. 

1229
01:05:22,100 --> 01:05:26,200
Now, you know, the Doom, which 
is a segue to the doom and what 

1230
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,600
happened there. 
And what happened in Co horses, 

1231
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:32,500
we have a very interesting quote
cohort, had something peculiar 

1232
01:05:32,500 --> 01:05:35,600
happened, let's hear it. 
What followed in the sudden 

1233
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:40,300
vacuum was chaos, Dragon Lords 
had been gathered and valyria as

1234
01:05:40,300 --> 01:05:45,200
was their won't accept for a Nar
Targaryen his children and his 

1235
01:05:45,300 --> 01:05:49,400
Dragons who had fled to 
Dragonstone and so escape. 

1236
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:53,700
The Doom, some accounts claim 
that a few others survived to 

1237
01:05:54,300 --> 01:05:57,600
for a time. 
It is said that some Valerian 

1238
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,700
archons didn't Irish and least 
were spared but that in the 

1239
01:06:01,700 --> 01:06:05,600
immediate political upheaval 
following the Doom they and 

1240
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,500
their dragons were killed by the
citizens of those free cities. 

1241
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,400
The histories of cohort, 
likewise claim that a visiting 

1242
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:17,200
dragonlord, Aryan. 
In raised forces from the 

1243
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:21,100
cohort, colonists and proclaimed
himself the first emperor of 

1244
01:06:21,100 --> 01:06:23,800
Bulgaria. 
He flew away on the back of his 

1245
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:27,300
Great Dragon. 
With 30,000 men, following 

1246
01:06:27,300 --> 01:06:31,800
behind a foot, to, lay claim to 
what remained of valyria and to 

1247
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:37,100
re-establish, the Freehold, but 
neither Emperor, Orion, nor his 

1248
01:06:37,100 --> 01:06:43,400
hosts were ever seen again. 
Like the idea of a ghost Army. 

1249
01:06:43,900 --> 01:06:47,900
Yeah, I know right. 
Just like all of a sudden a man 

1250
01:06:47,900 --> 01:06:50,700
were there and like 30,000 men. 
Just like show up. 

1251
01:06:51,100 --> 01:06:54,300
Lost Through The Mists of time. 
Yeah. 

1252
01:06:54,300 --> 01:06:55,100
It's like. 
Where did they? 

1253
01:06:55,100 --> 01:07:00,100
That's a lot of missing Foods. 
Yeah, Orion was never seen 

1254
01:07:00,100 --> 01:07:01,300
again. 
Sure fine. 

1255
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:05,400
But 30,000 people were never 
seen again. 

1256
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:06,900
Where were the where there's 
this? 

1257
01:07:07,100 --> 01:07:10,200
Where did the bones go? 
Yeah, just shank and Must have 

1258
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,700
had equipment. 
They must have had yeah swords 

1259
01:07:12,700 --> 01:07:17,200
and shields and horses and yeah,
it's wild, fun events like this 

1260
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,900
kicked off the Centre of blood, 
I mean, all sorts of wild stuff 

1261
01:07:19,900 --> 01:07:22,100
happen there, right? 
It is made the title free City. 

1262
01:07:22,100 --> 01:07:24,600
A bit closer to true as they 
were no longer ruled by valyria,

1263
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,400
of course. 
They a dude claiming to be 

1264
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:30,200
Emperor here, but that didn't 
last very long, so that was a 

1265
01:07:30,207 --> 01:07:33,700
short, little episode for them. 
And of course, I still have 

1266
01:07:33,700 --> 01:07:36,800
slavery in the blood sacrifice 
and we'll get back to that 

1267
01:07:36,900 --> 01:07:39,100
later. 
But as we've said, been saying, 

1268
01:07:39,100 --> 01:07:41,500
Coco whore, Not a city of 
warrior. 

1269
01:07:41,500 --> 01:07:45,200
So these colonists these people 
that he raised to be his army. 

1270
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,300
Yeah. 
Might not have been the best 

1271
01:07:48,300 --> 01:07:52,700
army you've ever seen so because
they are used to hiring milk 

1272
01:07:52,700 --> 01:07:55,100
mercenaries and when they were 
ruled by valyria, they probably 

1273
01:07:55,100 --> 01:07:58,200
didn't even do that because they
were like, they probably didn't 

1274
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,100
have much to worry about in 
terms of being attacked by 

1275
01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:02,800
Outsiders like Tsar nor wasn't 
going to attack them there. 

1276
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:04,900
It's their trading partner 
starting or doesn't want war 

1277
01:08:04,900 --> 01:08:09,900
with valyria. 
So certainly these 30 some 

1278
01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:13,800
thousand non warriors were not 
enough to intimidate a blasted 

1279
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,100
Wasteland into submission. 
I don't even think good Warriors

1280
01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:18,500
could have done that Nina 
wonders. 

1281
01:08:18,500 --> 01:08:20,800
Why he didn't just try to set 
himself up there? 

1282
01:08:21,100 --> 01:08:23,300
Maybe he would have come back to
it though. 

1283
01:08:23,300 --> 01:08:26,000
Maybe he was going to go to 
valyria and maybe he was his 

1284
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:33,500
plan was to return to cohort and
maybe He did things in cohort to

1285
01:08:33,500 --> 01:08:36,100
establish himself before, 
leaving things that still? 

1286
01:08:37,399 --> 01:08:40,600
Our true now are things that are
still in play right now. 

1287
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:44,500
In other words, like the 
Valyrian steel secret, how did 

1288
01:08:44,500 --> 01:08:49,100
it get from valyria to cohort 
even though they didn't get the 

1289
01:08:49,100 --> 01:08:50,700
whole secret because they don't 
know how to remake it? 

1290
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,800
Is it things like this? 
I like maybe Orion was like 

1291
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:58,000
alright cool horik, in exchange 
for you supporting my candidacy 

1292
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,000
here, I'm going to give you half
the secret of Steel, and when I 

1293
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,300
come back I'll give you the 
other. 

1294
01:09:03,300 --> 01:09:05,800
He never came back so they 
didn't get the rest. 

1295
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,100
That might be. 
That's a little random. 

1296
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,300
As I guess, you know, it's 
there's not a lot to support 

1297
01:09:09,300 --> 01:09:13,100
this idea but I feel like Orion 
couldn't have just given orders 

1298
01:09:13,100 --> 01:09:15,200
and been like all right you guys
all follow me now. 

1299
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,700
Like he might have tried that 
because he's a big dragon lord 

1300
01:09:17,700 --> 01:09:21,700
and outranks everyone but still 
he would want to not just tell 

1301
01:09:21,700 --> 01:09:23,399
everyone want to do. 
He went on to give them some 

1302
01:09:23,399 --> 01:09:26,000
motivation to follow him. 
He would like some of the rich 

1303
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:28,800
people of cohort might have 
other options and he went to 

1304
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,600
make sure they were on his side 
and he would give them 

1305
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,700
concessions or things of value 
to make sure they're on his side

1306
01:09:34,700 --> 01:09:36,100
especially if he's going to be 
leaving. 

1307
01:09:36,399 --> 01:09:38,500
He wants to make sure that The 
city is still loyal to him while

1308
01:09:38,500 --> 01:09:40,200
he's gone. 
It's obviously time of great 

1309
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:41,700
chaos. 
So he can't just be like you 

1310
01:09:41,700 --> 01:09:44,200
wait for me, you know, and don't
do anything until come back. 

1311
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,000
Like core is really far from 
valyria. 

1312
01:09:48,100 --> 01:09:51,200
Kind of doubt he just told them 
gave them orders and expect them

1313
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:58,300
to stand Pat and that's that. 
So yeah I do Wonder I stood a 

1314
01:09:58,308 --> 01:10:00,600
little bit on it. 
Also like maybe the 30,000 

1315
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,800
number was exaggerated some of 
those he picked up on the way 

1316
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:05,700
from other cities, you know. 
Yeah. 

1317
01:10:05,900 --> 01:10:08,700
Or maybe some of them trailed 
off along the wave that, you 

1318
01:10:08,708 --> 01:10:12,100
know, they may be literally died
or starved or got lost or 

1319
01:10:12,100 --> 01:10:15,500
abandoned revenues me tune. 
That were marching into a 

1320
01:10:15,500 --> 01:10:19,000
blasted landscape. 
Like this is not once word got 

1321
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,800
to them that we can't actually 
merge there. 

1322
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,400
Yeah, I guess so. 
Well, I mean, I guess I just I 

1323
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,800
just it's, like, 30,000 people 
like, you picture, like On 

1324
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:32,400
Tuesday, the first 10,000 people
crossed into like hell on Earth.

1325
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,700
The next twenty thousand does 
turn around, like, it's hard to 

1326
01:10:35,700 --> 01:10:39,200
imagine they all day. 
They all just keep going. 

1327
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:41,000
Yeah. 
Like I can't because I'm like, 

1328
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,100
makes me think like okay, like a
bunch of them crossed over and 

1329
01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:47,100
then got infected with those 
like worms or whatever. 

1330
01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:51,000
They like a ray of God may be 
like they all got killed by 

1331
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,800
something that just like spread 
through the Army, you know, like

1332
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,400
maybe a callus are got them. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1333
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,200
Yeah. 
You think maybe they would brag 

1334
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:02,600
about it or talk about it or 
whatever. 

1335
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,200
Be some record or there would be
there? 

1336
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,000
That's dragon bones. 
Something there. 

1337
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:08,300
What happened to that 
dragon-like? 

1338
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,500
Yeah, yeah. 
I guess, I guess that's all I'm 

1339
01:11:11,500 --> 01:11:14,600
going to say. 
I now feel that it was illness 

1340
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,700
that ended up killing the whole 
Army off that. 

1341
01:11:16,700 --> 01:11:20,600
They got some magical disease 
that just like, wiped them out. 

1342
01:11:20,700 --> 01:11:22,800
No Trace. 
Even a regular disease were 

1343
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,500
still things that you would 
think that. 

1344
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,200
One experienced leader would be 
like test the water before 

1345
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,000
everyone drinks it but maybe 
they did was poisonous and but 

1346
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:37,100
there was no other water and 
they just all died of thirst or 

1347
01:11:37,100 --> 01:11:40,000
starvation. 
Even still where are all the 

1348
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,700
equipment and bodies of these 
30,000 or six? 

1349
01:11:42,700 --> 01:11:45,200
Agitated 15,000. 
That's still a lot of people 

1350
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,200
just gone actually, if there 
weren't cohort armor, that's 

1351
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,900
some good stuff. 
You want that? 

1352
01:11:51,500 --> 01:11:53,700
And I have another little one 
next year. 

1353
01:11:53,700 --> 01:11:56,800
Okay, my theory is that they get
to the border of valyria, okay? 

1354
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,900
Like they get to It starts to 
look like hellish, okay? 

1355
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,200
And let a lot of people are 
like, I think we should turn 

1356
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:06,000
around and like maybe they would
have, but the worms are some 

1357
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,900
magical disease starts, just 
ripping through them and they 

1358
01:12:09,900 --> 01:12:13,400
all die. 
And then the border of valyria 

1359
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:15,700
like extend the little bit, you 
know. 

1360
01:12:15,700 --> 01:12:17,900
And then they're all just pulled
into the lava and to like 

1361
01:12:17,900 --> 01:12:19,700
there's they're just they're 
just all burned up and they're 

1362
01:12:19,700 --> 01:12:22,700
all in the bottom of the, you 
know secondary aftershocks. 

1363
01:12:22,700 --> 01:12:26,000
Got like a secondary. 
Yeah, something like that. 

1364
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,500
I don't wave or something like, 
wow. 

1365
01:12:27,700 --> 01:12:30,300
Some all off the coast or 
something like that. 

1366
01:12:30,300 --> 01:12:33,800
Yeah I think natural disaster 
like extending the you know like

1367
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,600
they thought they were not as in
danger. 

1368
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:37,700
Yeah I do. 
That's what I'm not. 

1369
01:12:37,700 --> 01:12:39,800
Makes a lot of sense there. 
Aftershocks make sense like they

1370
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,600
were just be the one explosion 
and that's it is like very often

1371
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,100
when there's an earthquake. 
There's a secondary or tertiary 

1372
01:12:45,100 --> 01:12:48,100
or quaternary or I'm losing 
running out of cash. 

1373
01:12:48,100 --> 01:12:50,800
It might be that someone like 
dust like digging into under 

1374
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,600
like a mountain and I'm about 
and be like a pile of rocks and 

1375
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,700
I go oh there's 30,000 corpses 
and all their arm. 

1376
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,900
Ultimately quarks, I mean, 
tougher discover if they're all 

1377
01:12:59,900 --> 01:13:01,400
washed into the ocean. 
Yeah. 

1378
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:04,400
Also, as an effective your 
earthquakes and volcanoes can 

1379
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,800
tidal waves in the ocean, you 
might imagine that sometimes, 

1380
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,700
sometimes on just finds a cool 
suit of armor on the all the 

1381
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,500
like something washes, ashore. 
And they've a great payday. 

1382
01:13:15,100 --> 01:13:18,400
Oh no well one of the thought 
Theory question I have. 

1383
01:13:19,100 --> 01:13:21,400
Is it possible that his Dragon 
survived? 

1384
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,800
Aren't there? 
A few dragons out there that are

1385
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:27,900
like I don't know loners, you 
know I have a mysterious or Ends

1386
01:13:27,900 --> 01:13:30,200
or appearances is possible. 
His is one of them. 

1387
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,800
I'm not quite up enough on all 
the dragon lore, but could his 

1388
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:37,100
Dragon be a dragon? 
Is it could have survived or it 

1389
01:13:37,100 --> 01:13:39,600
wouldn't have? 
You know, would have died a 

1390
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,000
while back. 
Most likely the Doom is more 

1391
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,100
than 400 years ago. 
So, we've never heard of a 

1392
01:13:44,100 --> 01:13:47,500
dragon being 400 years old 200. 
We've heard of. 

1393
01:13:47,700 --> 01:13:50,500
So it could, it's not like 
really out of the question, but 

1394
01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:54,100
maybe that Dragon didn't die and
then was riderless and just 

1395
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:59,300
lived its life out in valyria. 
Or was killed by whatever carved

1396
01:13:59,300 --> 01:14:03,900
in nine foot long Scar and 
balerion. 

1397
01:14:03,900 --> 01:14:06,300
Yeah, yeah. 
So it could have been killed by 

1398
01:14:06,300 --> 01:14:08,400
a separate, like I'm not sure 
that a natural disaster killed 

1399
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,900
this Dragon, but maybe it did. 
Like if there's a secondary 

1400
01:14:10,900 --> 01:14:13,400
Aftershock of substantial size, 
that could that mean dragons 

1401
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:14,800
were killed by the original 
Doom. 

1402
01:14:14,900 --> 01:14:17,300
You think the aftershocks of the
Doom would be pretty substantial

1403
01:14:17,300 --> 01:14:21,900
given how substantial to do in 
itself was So later in the 

1404
01:14:21,900 --> 01:14:24,800
century of blood cohort teamed 
up with norvos to defeat 

1405
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,800
volantis and stop their Imperial
Ambitions. 

1406
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:31,100
Because after member ohryan 
failed the V ballantine's, try 

1407
01:14:31,100 --> 01:14:34,200
to do something similar and 
position themselves to be the 

1408
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:38,600
inheritors of the heir to the 
Empire, to quote, a recent Star 

1409
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:43,800
Wars, trailer and Union also 
wonders. 

1410
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,300
If maybe Orion if he had set 
himself up a little differently,

1411
01:14:46,300 --> 01:14:49,800
if you tried to do, like, the 
targaryens, did where they had a

1412
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,200
base. 
That wasn't Directly connected 

1413
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:53,900
to the continent like 
Dragonstone, something like 

1414
01:14:53,900 --> 01:14:58,200
that, where he set himself up 
outside of former spot and ruled

1415
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,300
from there, but no, it didn't, 
it didn't happen. 

1416
01:15:02,900 --> 01:15:06,600
This defeat of the volunteers 
involved, something called fire 

1417
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:10,600
galleys which I really hope they
called water dragons or river 

1418
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:15,000
dragons. 
Because you know, seems like 

1419
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,100
something you would do. 
Like this is a former Valerian 

1420
01:15:17,100 --> 01:15:18,800
City. 
Like it hasn't been that long 

1421
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,600
that the dragons were gone and, 
you know, anything that's 

1422
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,900
breathe. 
Adding fire sort of would get 

1423
01:15:22,900 --> 01:15:25,000
nickname, the dragon. 
And it would make sense like, I 

1424
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:26,800
mentioned briefly earlier would 
make sense to have a lot of 

1425
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:28,700
river craft and cohort, 
actually, don't have deep sea 

1426
01:15:28,700 --> 01:15:30,800
vessels because they have no 
connection whatsoever to the 

1427
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:32,400
oceans. 
There, waterway that leads to 

1428
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,500
the ocean is super far from that
given how important river travel

1429
01:15:35,500 --> 01:15:38,900
would be for their economy. 
And there are a lot of river 

1430
01:15:38,900 --> 01:15:41,600
pirates in the area. 
Well they have the timber to 

1431
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:43,900
make the ship's they'd have the 
economic incentive. 

1432
01:15:43,900 --> 01:15:47,100
There would be no people that 
maybe aren't in the timber 

1433
01:15:47,100 --> 01:15:49,600
industry. 
Could be like hey I could make a

1434
01:15:49,608 --> 01:15:53,500
buck being Protector of the 
industry. 

1435
01:15:53,500 --> 01:15:56,400
Like I'll set myself up and 
fight Pirates, being anti pirate

1436
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:58,600
guy and people will pay me for 
that kind of thing. 

1437
01:15:59,100 --> 01:16:00,800
I would imagine that sort of 
thing exists. 

1438
01:16:01,100 --> 01:16:03,100
And if you've got paid well 
enough, then you can turn pirate

1439
01:16:03,900 --> 01:16:05,200
become one of them, if you can't
beat em. 

1440
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:08,100
Join em other way around, maybe 
maybe beat the Pirates and gets 

1441
01:16:08,100 --> 01:16:10,100
him to join them and become anti
Pirates. 

1442
01:16:10,100 --> 01:16:12,400
That's a whole, all these things
that probably happened 

1443
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:13,700
throughout the longest repo 
horror. 

1444
01:16:14,900 --> 01:16:16,300
The rivers are huge and 
expensive. 

1445
01:16:16,300 --> 01:16:18,800
This is the rhoynar or the Rhine
we're talking about after all, 

1446
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,900
even if this is just one corner 
of it, the upper Northeastern 

1447
01:16:21,900 --> 01:16:26,000
corner of the Rhine, it's still 
all part of the giant river 

1448
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:27,300
system, the largest in the 
world. 

1449
01:16:28,500 --> 01:16:34,000
So that's got to be relevant. 
Let's take our halfway break. 

1450
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:38,300
Here, we are sponsor list at the
moment. 

1451
01:16:38,300 --> 01:16:42,400
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1452
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,400
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1453
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,500
We're on patreon right now, 
we're running a special at the 

1454
01:16:48,500 --> 01:16:52,700
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At the end of May, we are doing 

1455
01:16:52,700 --> 01:16:56,800
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If you are already on the two 

1456
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:58,500
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1457
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1458
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,400
Other than as the level 
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01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,600
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1460
01:17:07,700 --> 01:17:10,100
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1461
01:17:10,100 --> 01:17:16,100
If you're hearing this after the
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1462
01:17:16,108 --> 01:17:18,300
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1463
01:17:18,300 --> 01:17:21,100
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1464
01:17:21,100 --> 01:17:23,000
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1465
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,200
Other levels have access to 
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1466
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:29,000
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And we're as we discussed last 

1467
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,400
week, we're going to be adding 
some new features. 

1468
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:34,700
Sean and Ash. 
And I are figuring out exactly 

1469
01:17:34,700 --> 01:17:37,700
how to deploy these things. 
But one thing we're gonna have 

1470
01:17:37,700 --> 01:17:41,100
like, a game night, maybe like a
trivia night kind of thing for 

1471
01:17:41,100 --> 01:17:43,700
people who are signed up. 
So all the more reason to get 

1472
01:17:43,700 --> 01:17:45,100
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Now when it's the cheapest 

1473
01:17:45,100 --> 01:17:50,000
possible and we would like I 
said, very grateful. 

1474
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,200
If you could support us there 
We're gonna replace the two 

1475
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:58,200
dollar level with 2005 in y'all.
It's really it's a killer. 

1476
01:18:00,500 --> 01:18:03,100
You should have said 3,000 Sean,
because that's the title of our 

1477
01:18:03,100 --> 01:18:07,100
next section. 
The 3000 of cohort. 

1478
01:18:07,300 --> 01:18:11,300
Yes, another major side. 
Effect of the Doom was the 

1479
01:18:11,300 --> 01:18:15,800
emergence of the Dothraki. 
They first feasted on the 

1480
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,700
scenario. 
As we saw the Centre of blood 

1481
01:18:18,700 --> 01:18:22,200
saw, the destruction of all the 
SAR Nori cities by the track. - 

1482
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,600
that one that's still there. 
That's only like twenty thousand

1483
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,500
people, it's hardly even a city 
that the tracky cities are much 

1484
01:18:27,500 --> 01:18:32,700
closer or rather, the Dothraki 
Homeland is much closer to the 

1485
01:18:32,700 --> 01:18:36,000
sorry cities and the mother of 
mountains then any other 

1486
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:40,200
civilization and the sorry lack 
the protection of the forest of 

1487
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:45,700
cohort which is not the hugest. 
Most impenetrable force there 

1488
01:18:45,700 --> 01:18:48,600
are you know, Danny and grow but
they just walk right through it 

1489
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,600
on some Trails presumably. 
So it wouldn't have been the 

1490
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:54,000
biggest obstacle for. 
Rocky call khalasar to follow. 

1491
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,100
But it's something. 
It is at least put some little 

1492
01:18:58,100 --> 01:19:01,200
farther out of the way a large 
khalasar. 

1493
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:05,500
Under a man named Khal temmo, 
who was one of the biggest calls

1494
01:19:05,500 --> 01:19:07,600
to emerge during the century of 
blood. 

1495
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,200
Jorah claims. 
This cauliflower is only half 

1496
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,800
the size of drug goes, but 
drogas calls are as monstrous, 

1497
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,900
so this is still 50,000 people. 
This drug was maybe a hundred 

1498
01:19:15,900 --> 01:19:19,200
thousand Cohorts Defenders were 
insufficient. 

1499
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:21,800
They had a lot of warning that 
this call is our was coming. 

1500
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:26,200
Presumably because it destroyed 
us, Aria and sarnath. 

1501
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:28,500
And these other places and you 
can see the writing on the wall.

1502
01:19:28,500 --> 01:19:30,200
The like okay, they're 
destroying all the cities 

1503
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,600
closest to them pretty soon. 
We're going to be the closest 

1504
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,100
one left. 
We should prepare for this. 

1505
01:19:36,100 --> 01:19:40,100
So they hired sellswords 
including they bought some 

1506
01:19:40,100 --> 01:19:45,700
unsullied and the unsullied. 
Of course, as you might be able 

1507
01:19:45,700 --> 01:19:50,200
to guess even without Get a map.
A stupor is not exactly close to

1508
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,100
cohort. 
Slavers Bay is Southern esos, 

1509
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:56,300
cohort is Northern essos. 
And isn't like some river 

1510
01:19:56,300 --> 01:19:57,800
system. 
They can really use to connect 

1511
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,400
the ROI, not the Rind enter, you
know, exits down on the other 

1512
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,700
side of the Blasted Peninsula. 
Valerius. 

1513
01:20:02,700 --> 01:20:07,100
So These guys marched from a 
stupor to cohort. 

1514
01:20:07,100 --> 01:20:11,800
That is a long long march that 
long march made the miss most of

1515
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:15,100
the action. 
By the time they got there, the 

1516
01:20:15,100 --> 01:20:19,200
Dothraki had already defeated, 
the cohort Defenders, and the 

1517
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:20,500
cells were companies had run 
away. 

1518
01:20:21,300 --> 01:20:23,300
Are you sure that wasn't afraid 
in charge of the unsold? 

1519
01:20:25,100 --> 01:20:27,200
Well, they still fought. 
So maybe not. 

1520
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:30,800
If this was not a, this is not a
smart Fray if he was afraid. 

1521
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:36,100
So the core was almost beat they
Were on their last legs. 

1522
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:40,200
Even with these unsullied 
approaching, the Dothraki got 

1523
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,700
cocky and took a bit of extra 
time. 

1524
01:20:42,700 --> 01:20:45,300
Just before they were to take 
the city itself that single 

1525
01:20:45,300 --> 01:20:49,400
night made all the difference, 
the unsullied arrived and 

1526
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:53,700
position themselves between the 
city and the Dothraki cams, this

1527
01:20:53,700 --> 01:20:56,300
did little to curb call temos 
arrogance. 

1528
01:20:56,300 --> 01:20:58,100
In fact, it increased it 
arguably. 

1529
01:20:58,100 --> 01:21:02,600
They could have easily flanked 
the unsullied as Jorah says, but

1530
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:06,100
it is important in Dothraki. 
To show contempt to those who 

1531
01:21:06,100 --> 01:21:10,900
are riderless using strategy 
against lesser foes is as 

1532
01:21:10,900 --> 01:21:13,300
beneath them as the dirt on the 
ground that they are. 

1533
01:21:13,300 --> 01:21:17,900
Not trotting on that, the 
unsullied are, here's jarrah. 

1534
01:21:18,100 --> 01:21:23,500
Sean with the rest, the Dothraki
charged and so lead locks their 

1535
01:21:23,500 --> 01:21:27,600
Shields lower their Spears and 
stood firm against 20,000 

1536
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,300
screamers with bells in her 
hair. 

1537
01:21:29,500 --> 01:21:33,900
They stood firm, 18 times the 
Dothraki charge and broke. 

1538
01:21:34,100 --> 01:21:37,600
Ourselves into Shields and 
Spears like waves on a rocky 

1539
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,300
Shore Thrice timmo, sent his 
archers. 

1540
01:21:40,300 --> 01:21:44,900
We only pass Narrows felt like 
an arrows fell like rain upon 

1541
01:21:44,900 --> 01:21:48,000
the 3000, but the on solely 
merely lifted their Shield above

1542
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:49,900
their head until the Squall have
passed. 

1543
01:21:50,300 --> 01:21:54,500
And the end only 600 of them 
remained but more than 12,000 

1544
01:21:54,500 --> 01:21:58,200
dollars Rocky lay dead upon that
field including called him o his

1545
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,700
blood Riders his costs and all 
the sons the morning of the 

1546
01:22:01,700 --> 01:22:05,800
fourth day, the new call led the
Drivers asked the city gates in 

1547
01:22:05,808 --> 01:22:08,900
a stately, procession one by one
each man. 

1548
01:22:08,900 --> 01:22:11,400
Cut off his braid through a down
before the feet. 

1549
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,500
The 3,000. 
Since that day, the city guard 

1550
01:22:14,500 --> 01:22:17,200
of cohort has been made up 
solely of unsullied. 

1551
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:21,000
Every one of whom carries a tall
sphere on which hangs a braid of

1552
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:22,900
human hair, man. 
George is great with these 

1553
01:22:22,900 --> 01:22:28,200
anecdotes, that's so good. 
So this are Nori didn't have 

1554
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,700
that the sorry Nora if they had,
maybe they should have hired 

1555
01:22:30,700 --> 01:22:34,600
someone so annoyed too late. 
Now to keep in, Mind part of the

1556
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,800
reason, the Dothraki were so 
arrogant as they had already 

1557
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,500
destroyed the Sartori. 
So that was kind of a little 

1558
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:42,700
column, a little from column B 
also jar may have embellished, 

1559
01:22:42,700 --> 01:22:45,500
he probably did after all his 
purpose, here was to get Danny 

1560
01:22:45,500 --> 01:22:49,500
to buy and Sully turns out they 
are pretty badass. 

1561
01:22:49,500 --> 01:22:51,800
Like, they are pretty much as 
advertised. 

1562
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:56,000
You can imagine that the 
unsullied in astapor and cohort,

1563
01:22:56,000 --> 01:23:00,700
they probably also all embellish
that even the Dothraki would be 

1564
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:02,800
motivated to embellish or they 
lost. 

1565
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:04,800
You're totally right. 
Even jarrah. 

1566
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:06,600
One thing he's almost certainly 
embellishes. 

1567
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:09,000
Is he says the unsullied were 
purchased almost as an 

1568
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,400
afterthought like 3,000 
unsullied. 

1569
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,700
We know how expensive they are. 
We saw Danny, Dave like all 

1570
01:23:14,700 --> 01:23:18,400
these trade goods and drogue on 
for 8000 of them. 

1571
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,800
So yeah, that wasn't an 
afterthought. 

1572
01:23:21,300 --> 01:23:26,200
He did say almost and cohort was
10 times wealthier than the 

1573
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:28,600
other cities that might have 
been, you know, small cost 

1574
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:29,800
that's at the peak of their 
wealth. 

1575
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:30,900
That's a great Point. 
Okay. 

1576
01:23:30,900 --> 01:23:33,700
So they met they could have 
afforded an absurd amount and 

1577
01:23:33,700 --> 01:23:36,400
they Might have underestimated 
the Dothraki. 

1578
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:39,300
Overestimated, the sellswords 
already had, could have been see

1579
01:23:39,300 --> 01:23:42,100
a lot of factors have been some 
Miss estimations all over the 

1580
01:23:42,108 --> 01:23:44,500
place. 
Yes, lots of lots of bad math on

1581
01:23:44,500 --> 01:23:47,500
both sides here. 
The Dothraki also have contempt 

1582
01:23:47,500 --> 01:23:51,000
for math. 
Sort of the unsullied little 

1583
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:53,800
like counting and influence wise
as well. 

1584
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:58,200
This has Shades more Greek 
influence because of the 300 of 

1585
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:02,800
Sparta the hot Gates third of 
stand at Thermopylae, even the 

1586
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:04,600
movie, which wasn't very 
Accurate. 

1587
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:08,700
Well that's an understatement 
used a line that is attributed 

1588
01:24:08,700 --> 01:24:11,100
history, which is somewhat 
reflected here. 

1589
01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:15,700
The line about how many arrows 
there were the Spartan Commander

1590
01:24:15,700 --> 01:24:18,900
layout. 
It is said in response to the 

1591
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,500
archers of the Persians are so 
numerous that it will blot out 

1592
01:24:22,500 --> 01:24:25,400
the Sun and Leonidas was 
supposed to have said and we'll 

1593
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:30,100
have our battle in the shade and
this is kind of similar to the 

1594
01:24:30,100 --> 01:24:34,100
arrows fell like rain upon the 
three 1000 but they lifted Our 

1595
01:24:34,100 --> 01:24:35,700
Shields until the squalid 
passed. 

1596
01:24:35,700 --> 01:24:38,800
Its kind of making arrows into a
weather thing. 

1597
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:42,600
You know, whether it's the Sun, 
the shade or rain and the fact 

1598
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:45,400
that they just kept coming, but 
they just kept holding the 

1599
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,600
flanking as well. 
That in the case of the 300 

1600
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,100
Spartans, they couldn't be 
flanked because it was a pass 

1601
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:55,600
until a Trader showed the way 
around arath, passing attack 

1602
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:58,700
from the rear, which the Porsche
that that's where the parallel 

1603
01:24:58,700 --> 01:25:01,900
ends because the Dothraki just 
gave up and said, all right, you

1604
01:25:01,900 --> 01:25:03,900
guys win, we cut off our braids 
and walk on. 

1605
01:25:04,100 --> 01:25:06,100
Past. 
Yeah, now the the Persians lost 

1606
01:25:06,100 --> 01:25:09,500
not long after getting through 
the hot Gates, but that's 

1607
01:25:09,500 --> 01:25:13,000
another show, another parallel. 
I guess also a tangent but it is

1608
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:16,100
a frustration to me of the story
of the 300, is it, especially 

1609
01:25:16,100 --> 01:25:18,800
way the movie presents it. 
Is there a fighting off? 

1610
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:23,600
This invading slave culture, so 
they can go back home to their 

1611
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:27,500
own space, they're there because
democracy, but Greek democracy 

1612
01:25:27,500 --> 01:25:30,500
was not real the Spartans 
especially I didn't even that 

1613
01:25:30,500 --> 01:25:32,100
all very Spartan. 
You never mock me. 

1614
01:25:32,108 --> 01:25:34,400
And right, they had Kings two 
kings, which was Kinda weird. 

1615
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:37,100
The reason there were these 
tough Spartans is so that they 

1616
01:25:37,100 --> 01:25:40,500
could keep their slaves in line.
I was like yeah. 

1617
01:25:40,500 --> 01:25:42,900
It's very, very a historical and
that's as yeah. 

1618
01:25:42,900 --> 01:25:44,300
They weren't really the good 
guys. 

1619
01:25:44,900 --> 01:25:48,400
They were just guys you know I 
guess I do we know of cohort had

1620
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,200
slaves were kind of so he's got 
two but yeah because there are a

1621
01:25:51,208 --> 01:25:53,200
million and that's who. 
Yeah. 

1622
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,300
And we know that slaves are 
sacrificed for blood magic and 

1623
01:25:56,300 --> 01:25:57,400
things like that there. 
Yeah. 

1624
01:25:57,900 --> 01:26:01,100
And so on some level you want to
like be proud of the people 

1625
01:26:01,100 --> 01:26:04,100
defending their home City 
against invading horde, who You 

1626
01:26:04,100 --> 01:26:08,000
are going to enslave them but 
this city also employed slaves 

1627
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,700
to defend themselves so they can
maintain their slave state. 

1628
01:26:10,700 --> 01:26:13,300
So I don't know who it's there. 
I'm necessarily proud of them 

1629
01:26:13,300 --> 01:26:15,900
for winning, but so they still 
employ unsullied to this day as 

1630
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,500
City Guards. 
So that's relevant to. 

1631
01:26:18,700 --> 01:26:22,800
But as Jorah, also points out 
Unsullied who serve in small 

1632
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,500
groups lose their Edge. 
When they, they have to be a 

1633
01:26:25,500 --> 01:26:28,600
cohesive unit, that holds their 
values, and maintains their way 

1634
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:34,500
of life, to stay that strong and
formidable unsullied that go on 

1635
01:26:34,500 --> 01:26:37,500
guard Duty and becoming dislike 
all other guards. 

1636
01:26:37,500 --> 01:26:39,300
They kind of get lazy and 
overweight. 

1637
01:26:39,300 --> 01:26:41,800
And like, you see the ones that 
drawer, a Delirious Mansion, 

1638
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,000
they have very little to do. 
There's no real threats. 

1639
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,900
They are not practicing as hard 
as they used to, they're not 

1640
01:26:46,900 --> 01:26:49,100
living out in the wilderness. 
They're not. 

1641
01:26:49,100 --> 01:26:50,600
Yeah, they're not tough in it. 
Yeah. 

1642
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:54,800
Which might be what's the state 
of the unsullied of cohort. 

1643
01:26:54,900 --> 01:26:59,800
Now and certainly before because
of this next anecdote, which 

1644
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:04,100
comes only about 80 years ago. 
So not super long ago, it 

1645
01:27:04,100 --> 01:27:09,100
involves the golden company. 
It said in current times a 

1646
01:27:09,100 --> 01:27:13,200
certain calls, Echo visits, Co 
her every three to four years 

1647
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:16,900
and cohort is buy him off. 
He comes back they give him 

1648
01:27:16,900 --> 01:27:19,300
money. 
He was much like God rogo did it

1649
01:27:19,300 --> 01:27:22,500
then toss and how other calls 
let's do another free cities, or

1650
01:27:22,500 --> 01:27:27,000
all the proceedings pending 
You'd think that they did this 

1651
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:32,100
because it was rational right 
like well we can't beat that so 

1652
01:27:32,100 --> 01:27:35,100
let's pay him to go away. 
That's really our only choice 

1653
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:39,600
but they may have also gotten 
cocky at one point not towards 

1654
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,900
the Dothraki. 
But towards the golden company 

1655
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:47,300
in a show of extreme 
foolishness, they tried to stiff

1656
01:27:47,300 --> 01:27:48,500
them. 
They just didn't pay them. 

1657
01:27:48,500 --> 01:27:50,900
We don't know the exact 
circumstances, they just or the 

1658
01:27:50,900 --> 01:27:53,800
reason they just refuse to pay 
for reasons. 

1659
01:27:54,700 --> 01:27:59,900
This was sometime between the 
two 12 2219 span, it said that 

1660
01:27:59,900 --> 01:28:02,400
it helped establish them help, 
put them on the map. 

1661
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:04,500
So that's which is why we know 
it. 

1662
01:28:04,500 --> 01:28:07,200
Hey, came early in their 
existence, the gold company was 

1663
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,400
formed into 12 and the third 
blackfyre rebellion was a to 19,

1664
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,600
so I'm guessing it was before 
the third blackfyre Rebellion. 

1665
01:28:14,300 --> 01:28:17,300
So the correc thought they could
get one over on this. 

1666
01:28:17,300 --> 01:28:20,200
Rookie sellsword company. 
These noobs, they could just 

1667
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,400
stiff them. 
And what could they do about it?

1668
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:27,000
But instead it was pretty much 
the opposite is what happened 

1669
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:30,700
instead of stiffing, the golden 
company golden company, put 

1670
01:28:30,700 --> 01:28:34,300
themselves on the map by showing
what happens when you don't pay 

1671
01:28:34,300 --> 01:28:38,500
the golden up and they sacked 
core turns out the golden 

1672
01:28:38,500 --> 01:28:41,600
company as they like to stick 
the contracts and that means 

1673
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,500
both ends of deal. 
They also they don't break a 

1674
01:28:44,500 --> 01:28:47,800
contract but they also want to 
let you break a contract that 

1675
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:50,100
put them on the map. 
The unsullied guards whatever, 

1676
01:28:50,100 --> 01:28:53,700
they had at the time and these 
high walls they had was not Stop

1677
01:28:53,700 --> 01:28:56,600
the golden company. 
I'm not sure they sack the whole

1678
01:28:56,600 --> 01:29:00,100
city because I mean, don't can 
be 10,000 people, which is 

1679
01:29:00,100 --> 01:29:01,900
really big for a sellsword 
company, but I don't know if 

1680
01:29:01,907 --> 01:29:05,700
that's enough to carry away the 
entire City's wealth, probably 

1681
01:29:05,700 --> 01:29:07,800
not. 
But a lot of wealth they 

1682
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:08,900
certainly they probably carried 
away. 

1683
01:29:08,900 --> 01:29:11,600
Unless I wonder if they were 
just like, we're going to take 

1684
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:14,600
exactly what we rode and that's 
it just to really make a point, 

1685
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,300
you know, to set their 
reputation. 

1686
01:29:16,300 --> 01:29:18,500
Kind of feel like it'd be hard 
to control them in that regard 

1687
01:29:18,500 --> 01:29:22,200
especially cuz they were so new 
and maybe that discipline hadn't

1688
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,900
fully set in Tin. 
They had to establish that, and 

1689
01:29:24,900 --> 01:29:27,600
also on the other side, 
bittersteel was trying to fund a

1690
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,200
return to Westeros. 
So, and if he can pass that up 

1691
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,500
as an opportunity to get as much
loot as possible, it might be 

1692
01:29:32,500 --> 01:29:34,500
why they were able to start the 
third blackfyre Rebellion. 

1693
01:29:34,500 --> 01:29:37,100
Not that long after this because
they got so much, my still 

1694
01:29:37,100 --> 01:29:39,800
witness early loot everything 
because a lot of things are hard

1695
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:41,900
to move, right? 
Like if they lose a bunch of 

1696
01:29:41,900 --> 01:29:46,400
like rare are in joules. 
They're no longer Warriors. 

1697
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:49,300
They are now fences. 
And I mean they must have new 

1698
01:29:49,300 --> 01:29:52,100
jobs of. 
Yeah it's too awkward and 

1699
01:29:52,100 --> 01:29:55,800
difficult to That around keep it
safe and find a buyer, but you 

1700
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:58,400
get the gold. 
You get swords, get food, you 

1701
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:00,600
get horses. 
But yeah, necessarily take all 

1702
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:05,000
their like large heavy 
ornamental tough to move items 

1703
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:06,500
through. 
Yeah, you're carving the. 

1704
01:30:06,500 --> 01:30:08,700
You're pulling the gemstones out
of the statues eyes. 

1705
01:30:08,700 --> 01:30:10,000
You're not taking the whole 
statue. 

1706
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:13,600
Yeah, I have to think they went 
straight for those cork 

1707
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:16,700
steelworks and took all those 
nice swords and armor. 

1708
01:30:16,700 --> 01:30:19,300
Especially again, they're 
getting ready to invade Westeros

1709
01:30:19,300 --> 01:30:21,000
and start the black fire. 
Bell a third blackfyre, 

1710
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,600
Rebellion thing and have some 
nice swords for That right? 

1711
01:30:23,700 --> 01:30:26,000
Bittersteel would be 
particularly interested in that 

1712
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,200
since he didn't ever got a 
Valyrian steel blade of his own 

1713
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:31,600
while his two half brothers did 
and he's like, I want but no, no

1714
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:33,000
evidence. 
They found any Valyrian steel 

1715
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,200
there but maybe they're gonna 
say and it still didn't hear. 

1716
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:38,000
Apparently yeah. 
So that's too bad for them. 

1717
01:30:38,300 --> 01:30:40,700
I would think. 
Maybe they knew how to hide it. 

1718
01:30:40,900 --> 01:30:43,300
You know, people were like, oh 
hide your they couldn't have had

1719
01:30:43,300 --> 01:30:45,600
that much, they probably did 
what they had. 

1720
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:48,300
So I have to think this may have
been a particularly invasive 

1721
01:30:48,300 --> 01:30:50,600
sack, because I think they would
be looking for that. 

1722
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:52,800
They may have even tortured 
people to try to find. 

1723
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:56,200
Worms hidden or whatever. 
But again there's a lot of 

1724
01:30:56,208 --> 01:30:59,200
guesswork here bittersteel was 
intent on establishing a 

1725
01:30:59,208 --> 01:31:02,500
reputation for his company's 
reputation was, you know, our 

1726
01:31:02,500 --> 01:31:06,000
word is as good as gold. 
Not, we torture you to find your

1727
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,900
sword. 
Maybe this would come later than

1728
01:31:08,900 --> 01:31:10,200
their reputation is already 
established. 

1729
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:11,600
But I don't know. 
I'm not sure what kind of 

1730
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:12,900
leeway. 
He thought he had or what, he 

1731
01:31:12,900 --> 01:31:16,000
thought was the most important 
goals and Etc. 

1732
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:19,300
He might also might not have 
wanted to create lifelong, 

1733
01:31:19,300 --> 01:31:22,200
enemies either, write a piece 
tax them too hard. 

1734
01:31:22,300 --> 01:31:24,800
Then they'll make Commission of 
coming back form, true 

1735
01:31:25,100 --> 01:31:28,000
Generations, later or whatever. 
And he's like, look, I just need

1736
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:29,700
some money right now, so I can 
get back to West. 

1737
01:31:29,700 --> 01:31:31,700
He wouldn't want the other free 
cities to just not do business 

1738
01:31:31,700 --> 01:31:34,300
with him either, you know. 
Yeah, that relevant here. 

1739
01:31:34,308 --> 01:31:35,800
So there's a lot of 
considerations here and we're 

1740
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:40,100
not really we can't be too sure 
of what he prioritized versus 

1741
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:43,200
other things but still you gotta
think it was a big part of the 

1742
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:47,100
reason Big Boost in their 
ability, to start the third 

1743
01:31:47,100 --> 01:31:50,600
blackfyre Rebellion, especially 
the forges all that, all that 

1744
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:54,800
armor and weapons and to Create 
and maintain our Prestige as a 

1745
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:55,700
social work. 
Um, yeah. 

1746
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,700
Absolutely established them. 
It's probably the thing that 

1747
01:31:58,700 --> 01:32:02,300
first big news item about them. 
Like the first thing that spread

1748
01:32:02,500 --> 01:32:04,800
other than the fact they may be 
just in the first place. 

1749
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:09,000
So it's this place is called the
city of sorcerers. 

1750
01:32:09,100 --> 01:32:12,100
Let's talk about why it's not 
entirely clear, other than the 

1751
01:32:12,100 --> 01:32:14,200
Valyrian steel stuff. 
But let's get started here with 

1752
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:19,700
the quote in folklore. 
Even as far as Westeros cohort 

1753
01:32:19,700 --> 01:32:22,900
is sometimes known as the city 
of sorcerers for. 

1754
01:32:22,900 --> 01:32:26,400
It is widely, believed the dark 
arts are practiced here even to 

1755
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:30,500
this day divination, blood, 
magic and necromancy. 

1756
01:32:30,700 --> 01:32:35,900
Are whispered of those such 
reports can seldom be proved One

1757
01:32:35,900 --> 01:32:41,200
truth remains Undisputed. 
However, the dark God of cohort,

1758
01:32:41,500 --> 01:32:46,300
the deity known as the black 
goat demands daily blood 

1759
01:32:46,300 --> 01:32:50,000
sacrifice. 
Notice how it says divination 

1760
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:52,300
blood magic Necromancer 
whispered of those such reports 

1761
01:32:52,300 --> 01:32:56,100
can seldom be proved which 
implies that they have sometimes

1762
01:32:56,100 --> 01:32:58,800
been prunes like it rarely, but 
not never. 

1763
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:02,100
So that right there is. 
I mean a little bit is a lot 

1764
01:33:02,100 --> 01:33:04,700
when you're talking about 
divination necromancy and blood 

1765
01:33:04,700 --> 01:33:07,100
magic and how connected are 
these things. 

1766
01:33:07,100 --> 01:33:09,900
Again I ask the question again, 
we didn't really get too deep 

1767
01:33:09,900 --> 01:33:12,000
into it. 
How connected is the religion 

1768
01:33:12,000 --> 01:33:14,700
and worship of the black goat 
with actual magic? 

1769
01:33:14,700 --> 01:33:16,400
Like, how much is the sorcery of
do? 

1770
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:17,900
They attribute to the black 
goat? 

1771
01:33:18,100 --> 01:33:21,700
We have discussed many times 
that the actual origin of magic 

1772
01:33:22,100 --> 01:33:25,100
is disputable. 
And maybe just there's different

1773
01:33:25,100 --> 01:33:28,000
ways to tap into it and human 
beings, put the face of the 

1774
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:32,100
deity on that Source, whatever. 
Even if they don't know what the

1775
01:33:32,100 --> 01:33:35,300
source truly is. 
So fitting this into that works 

1776
01:33:35,300 --> 01:33:38,400
really well. 
They the base they put on it, is

1777
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:40,300
the black goat? 
Why? 

1778
01:33:40,300 --> 01:33:44,200
I don't know, maybe it's 
imagery, they saw in their 

1779
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:47,700
Visions or something like that 
or some particular person saw in

1780
01:33:47,700 --> 01:33:51,300
his Visions or her Visions. 
When the religion was just knew 

1781
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:53,600
some profit of the black goat 
that got it. 

1782
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:57,600
All started other people over 
time, followed that person and 

1783
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:00,200
it grew over time. 
I mean every religion has to 

1784
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:04,400
start somewhere every strange 
worship of some bizarre 

1785
01:34:04,700 --> 01:34:07,400
animalistic creation has to 
start somewhere. 

1786
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:13,000
So apparently in valyria is 
where it started or at least 

1787
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:16,300
flourished before moving to 
cohort to have its own spot. 

1788
01:34:16,900 --> 01:34:20,200
So his neck Matthew part of the 
black goats worshipping. 

1789
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:24,200
His blood magic is divination. 
Blood magic, seems the most 

1790
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:27,500
likely given the sacrifice 
sacrifices are associated with 

1791
01:34:27,500 --> 01:34:31,600
blood magic very clearly and 
they believe it's got a actual 

1792
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:36,700
purpose here, sacrifice is 
demanded by their deity or else,

1793
01:34:37,100 --> 01:34:39,200
or else, what is an entirely 
clear? 

1794
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,800
But it's not good. 
Like you said Shawn, once they 

1795
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:44,600
get started, they don't want to 
find out what happens and to 

1796
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:45,300
them. 
It's just all. 

1797
01:34:45,300 --> 01:34:48,100
We're sacrificing some 
criminals, some animals. he's 

1798
01:34:48,100 --> 01:34:53,700
like, it's not that big a cost 
in their minds to us, it's like 

1799
01:34:53,700 --> 01:34:57,600
creepy and weird and but to them
it's just, you know, I wonder 

1800
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,500
how just how customary it is. 
Like, if you grow up there it 

1801
01:35:00,500 --> 01:35:03,300
is, it just seemed really normal
or even like two people who are 

1802
01:35:03,308 --> 01:35:06,600
citizens is like man. 
This even to me a local, this 

1803
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:11,000
seems, you know how much ability
to like look at themselves to 

1804
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:15,900
they have here, you know, it is 
on the extreme end, but people 

1805
01:35:15,900 --> 01:35:19,400
do a lot of things in a name, 
religion or even tradition in 

1806
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:21,900
general. 
And it's not just totally made 

1807
01:35:21,900 --> 01:35:24,500
up for the store. 
I want to use the word Aztec, 

1808
01:35:24,500 --> 01:35:27,100
but I think that's like a little
inaccurate because it has Tech 

1809
01:35:27,100 --> 01:35:30,100
was like, an outsider word used 
to write. 

1810
01:35:30,100 --> 01:35:33,000
A bunch of different cultures is
through a sheikah. 

1811
01:35:33,100 --> 01:35:37,200
Yeah, the right but they were 
which is basically what is not 

1812
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:41,200
Mexico City but they were doing 
Human Sacrifice on a pretty 

1813
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:43,800
massive scale. 
And their religious belief was 

1814
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:47,400
that they had to do it. 
It was like imperative for the 

1815
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:49,700
world to continue like The Sun 
Won't rise. 

1816
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:51,900
Rise. 
If we don't do this, you know, 

1817
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:55,700
and so even that's maybe like a 
weird thought, or we are belief.

1818
01:35:55,700 --> 01:35:59,400
But once you do believe that if 
you really do, believe that you 

1819
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:00,800
really better sacrifice 
somebody. 

1820
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:03,400
Yeah, that's like way less evil 
than letting the world end, 

1821
01:36:03,400 --> 01:36:04,500
right? 
Like, yeah. 

1822
01:36:04,600 --> 01:36:06,200
Like yeah, put yourself in that 
mind State. 

1823
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:08,100
I say to mind like, yeah, this 
is its evil. 

1824
01:36:08,100 --> 01:36:10,600
Might seem evil to sacrifice 
people, but it's the lesser of 

1825
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:14,500
two evils way, lesser, right? 
Like, in a way like everyone 

1826
01:36:14,500 --> 01:36:16,300
would die, everyone. 
You know, would care about 

1827
01:36:16,300 --> 01:36:19,700
whether this this person you're 
sacrificing included the hit, 

1828
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:22,800
They're dead either way, by the 
way, they look at it as person, 

1829
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:26,200
you know, kind of like what, 
what creegan Stark said last 

1830
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:28,400
week, when he's like, one of 
those, those men were dead. 

1831
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:31,200
The minute they marched. 
You know, they marched out. 

1832
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:33,900
They were already dead like, oh,
you're not actually dead, but 

1833
01:36:33,900 --> 01:36:36,400
they're going to die either way.
It's kind of his point, whether 

1834
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:39,500
it's to the Revenge of the god, 
or to be sacrificed to placate 

1835
01:36:39,500 --> 01:36:41,400
the God one way or another. 
It's happening. 

1836
01:36:41,900 --> 01:36:46,500
Hey, it is hard to wrap. 
Your head around, Human 

1837
01:36:46,500 --> 01:36:49,300
Sacrifice or animal sacrifice 
being so. 

1838
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:53,500
Well, that it's a daily like 
feature of the city, not just 

1839
01:36:53,500 --> 01:36:55,800
something that people do in 
their home on a daily basis 

1840
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:58,200
because there's all sorts of 
weird things that people do like

1841
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:00,400
even in our neighborhood here 
though who knows what they're 

1842
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:03,700
doing as people chickens. 
And goats in this neighborhood, 

1843
01:37:03,700 --> 01:37:05,100
I don't think they're 
sacrificing them. 

1844
01:37:05,100 --> 01:37:08,900
But there were goat heads found 
in a stream like a couple years 

1845
01:37:08,900 --> 01:37:12,300
ago here. 
Oh yeah. 

1846
01:37:12,300 --> 01:37:15,800
There were, there was those 
those big theory about 

1847
01:37:16,300 --> 01:37:19,400
sacrifices and then some people 
got up in arms are like, no, we 

1848
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:21,900
wouldn't Like, get rid of the 
goat head. 

1849
01:37:21,900 --> 01:37:24,900
Like, that's not like, that is 
disrespectful, we wouldn't do 

1850
01:37:24,900 --> 01:37:26,500
that. 
So there was like a lot of 

1851
01:37:26,500 --> 01:37:29,300
debate about whether it was 
really religious sacrifice, 

1852
01:37:29,300 --> 01:37:32,100
because religious sacrifice 
wouldn't treat the goat head. 

1853
01:37:32,100 --> 01:37:35,300
So disrespectfully and you even 
sacrifice bro. 

1854
01:37:37,900 --> 01:37:44,700
Yeah, so people are weird. 
Yeah, look at heads for 

1855
01:37:44,700 --> 01:37:47,000
religious sacrifices are just 
some weirdos. 

1856
01:37:47,300 --> 01:37:51,000
Yeah, either way the fact that 
Was goats is almost certainly 

1857
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:53,700
relates to the thing I said 
earlier, as of the, like, the 

1858
01:37:53,700 --> 01:37:57,100
Christian propaganda against 
trying to is so, trippy 

1859
01:37:57,100 --> 01:38:00,400
associated with Satanism, like, 
centuries ago, that still 

1860
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:03,000
persist. 
Now, I think it's all just a big

1861
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:04,700
miscommunication. 
You're supposed to be 

1862
01:38:04,700 --> 01:38:12,000
sacrificing black Oats. 
Not go to talk about the blurry 

1863
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:14,600
and steel thing here. 
Did the valyrians take note of 

1864
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:18,100
the penchant for sacrifice 
amongst worshippers of the black

1865
01:38:18,100 --> 01:38:19,800
goat and same. 
This would fit in pretty well. 

1866
01:38:19,900 --> 01:38:23,500
Well, this is a good home for 
this industry, probably not 

1867
01:38:23,500 --> 01:38:26,500
because the industry of Larry 
and steel reworking seems to 

1868
01:38:26,500 --> 01:38:30,400
started after the Doom, but 
maybe that's why it ended up in 

1869
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:34,000
cohort. 
Was there anyone was there an 

1870
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:39,600
effort to save the knowledge of 
Valyrian steel if? 

1871
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:44,900
So, it seems peculiar or not 
peculiar, but interesting that 

1872
01:38:44,900 --> 01:38:47,400
it ended up in the place that's 
most equipped to handle it, a 

1873
01:38:47,407 --> 01:38:51,800
place that's already. 
Willing to do blood sacrifice on

1874
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:56,500
a daily scale and regularly. 
And is also already an expert at

1875
01:38:56,500 --> 01:38:59,300
making sorts, you kind of feel 
like is it, it's like a chicken 

1876
01:38:59,300 --> 01:39:02,800
and egg thing like the their 
expertise in metalworking come 

1877
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:04,200
first. 
And that's why they're the 

1878
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:08,300
inheritors of Valyrian steel or 
the other way around being the 

1879
01:39:08,300 --> 01:39:11,300
inheritors of Valyrian steel is 
where they got their expertise. 

1880
01:39:11,700 --> 01:39:14,000
I kind of think the first, 
because it sounds like they've 

1881
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:17,000
been famed for their sword 
making since before the Doom. 

1882
01:39:17,700 --> 01:39:20,400
So they may not have any. 
I don't, we don't I think they 

1883
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:22,400
were making Valyrian steel 
before the do. 

1884
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:27,500
That's only in valyria and then 
it spread after with that in 

1885
01:39:27,500 --> 01:39:31,100
mind if we operate on that as 
the more likely of the two 

1886
01:39:31,100 --> 01:39:36,900
scenarios than probably, the 
secret was taken to them. 

1887
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:41,300
Someone brought it there or some
several, someone's knowing this 

1888
01:39:41,300 --> 01:39:44,500
would be the best place for it 
and perhaps knowing not just 

1889
01:39:44,500 --> 01:39:47,200
like, oh, I must preserve the 
secret, the world needs it? 

1890
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:51,000
No, it's just, it's valuable. 
I would have liked carry the 

1891
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:52,900
secret because it can make them 
a lot of money. 

1892
01:39:53,100 --> 01:39:57,400
That seems more likely like oh 
the secret can't be be a shame 

1893
01:39:57,400 --> 01:40:00,700
if the secret was lost forever. 
I don't know if that's, it could

1894
01:40:00,700 --> 01:40:05,500
be that but I'm guessing profit 
motive more likely, maybe 

1895
01:40:05,500 --> 01:40:07,700
slightly, less cynical though 
still very cynical. 

1896
01:40:07,900 --> 01:40:11,400
They may also not want it to 
fall into the wrong hands, like 

1897
01:40:11,500 --> 01:40:15,700
they know it requires a 
sacrifice and like on some level

1898
01:40:15,700 --> 01:40:19,200
maybe they have some reverence 
for this sacrifice that they 

1899
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:21,100
wouldn't trust. 
The people to have that other 

1900
01:40:21,100 --> 01:40:23,600
people might just do this profit
motive but we're doing it for 

1901
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:26,100
the art of it or for our 
religion or Etc. 

1902
01:40:26,100 --> 01:40:28,800
Something that is not a reason 
that wouldn't hold up under 

1903
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:30,600
scrutiny but they tell 
themselves this. 

1904
01:40:30,900 --> 01:40:35,100
Yeah, yeah like it's something 
that they convince themselves 

1905
01:40:35,100 --> 01:40:37,400
with that makes sense. 
I had totally see that. 

1906
01:40:38,300 --> 01:40:43,600
Here's a quote that refers to 
their quality and gets us into 

1907
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:46,000
this topic. 
Little more, go horak swords 

1908
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:49,600
knives and armor are superior to
even the best. 

1909
01:40:49,700 --> 01:40:53,500
Castle-forged steel of Westeros.
And the city Smith's have 

1910
01:40:53,500 --> 01:40:57,300
perfected, the art of infusing 
deep color into the metals of 

1911
01:40:57,300 --> 01:41:00,600
their work producing armor and 
weaponry of lasting. 

1912
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:04,100
Beauty. 
Only here in, all the world has 

1913
01:41:04,100 --> 01:41:08,200
the art of reworking Valyrian, 
steel been preserved, its 

1914
01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:12,300
Secrets, jealously guarded, lots
of places claim to have the best

1915
01:41:12,300 --> 01:41:14,100
forages, but cohort seems to 
have them actually. 

1916
01:41:14,100 --> 01:41:16,300
All beat seems to be the 
evidence says that they are 

1917
01:41:16,300 --> 01:41:20,900
actually number one, Nina, 
agrees with the The my 

1918
01:41:20,900 --> 01:41:24,600
suspicions that they became the 
inheritors of Larry and steal 

1919
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,300
because they already had the 
skill that it seems to be that 

1920
01:41:27,300 --> 01:41:28,400
that seems to have been in 
place. 

1921
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:31,300
First actually quality of metal,
they were actually good at it 

1922
01:41:31,300 --> 01:41:34,300
before the magic became a 
factor. 

1923
01:41:36,100 --> 01:41:39,200
But what about this other little
more about the recipes stuff. 

1924
01:41:40,500 --> 01:41:44,900
Was any other magic brought with
it is that may be the origin of 

1925
01:41:44,900 --> 01:41:46,900
some of the other magical 
practices there. 

1926
01:41:46,900 --> 01:41:51,200
And some of the other sorceress 
practices that escape the Doom, 

1927
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:52,700
like what like other forms of 
blood magic. 

1928
01:41:52,700 --> 01:41:56,300
We know the blood magicians were
very powerful there, but they 

1929
01:41:56,300 --> 01:41:58,700
weren't all located in Bulgaria.
There must have been some 

1930
01:41:58,700 --> 01:42:01,600
enclaves elsewhere and some of 
those would have had connections

1931
01:42:01,900 --> 01:42:03,700
with the valyrians. 
In fact they may have been 

1932
01:42:03,700 --> 01:42:05,900
communicating directly using 
things like last candle, so it 

1933
01:42:05,900 --> 01:42:08,200
may not have been like a 
carrying messages back and 

1934
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:11,300
forth, kind of thing. 
Again these Visions these 

1935
01:42:11,500 --> 01:42:14,700
abilities to look into the 
future and past and see dreams 

1936
01:42:14,700 --> 01:42:19,000
and Visions could be the origin 
of the black goats physical 

1937
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:21,700
form. 
As many as it manifests to 

1938
01:42:21,700 --> 01:42:24,500
humans, someone may have seen it
in a vision and be like I keep 

1939
01:42:24,500 --> 01:42:26,600
seeing this black goat. 
In my mind it must be. 

1940
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:29,900
The this is the deity speaking 
to me even though it just ends 

1941
01:42:29,900 --> 01:42:32,700
up being a different aspect of 
death to most everyone else. 

1942
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:35,300
So it all kind of fits pretty 
well together in terms of how it

1943
01:42:35,300 --> 01:42:38,900
settles into various societies 
and individuals, it does seem to

1944
01:42:38,900 --> 01:42:41,200
be true. 
That the secret of Valyrian 

1945
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:42,900
steel was confined of leary in 
the first place. 

1946
01:42:42,900 --> 01:42:44,700
That's something that I kind of 
skipped over. 

1947
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:48,400
But I wanted to clarify that 
because if that wasn't the case 

1948
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:51,300
and it'd be a lot easier to see 
how cohort got the secret before

1949
01:42:51,300 --> 01:42:52,900
the Doom. 
Because otherwise, you're 

1950
01:42:52,900 --> 01:42:55,200
saying, well, how did the Doom 
happened so fast? 

1951
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:57,600
It's not like someone could have
just, oh, here comes the Doom. 

1952
01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:00,100
I've got the ticking Time Bomb. 
If I can get out. 

1953
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:01,100
Get out of here. 
Quick enough. 

1954
01:43:01,100 --> 01:43:05,200
I'll carry the secret with me. 
No, I was just Sudden and on 

1955
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:08,300
predicted at all, like people 
were completely caught off guard

1956
01:43:08,300 --> 01:43:12,400
by it, so, no one could have in 
advance, run away with this. 

1957
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:15,400
I don't think besides, you know,
someone like Danny's the dreamer

1958
01:43:15,900 --> 01:43:18,600
who did see it coming and has we
speculated many times. 

1959
01:43:18,900 --> 01:43:20,800
It's very unlikely day. 
Nice. 

1960
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:25,200
The dreamer was the only person 
who foresaw the Doom given what 

1961
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:29,500
a huge event, it was and given 
how many people seemingly have 

1962
01:43:29,500 --> 01:43:32,000
access to various forms of 
divination and prophecy. 

1963
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:37,000
So maybe just Maybe some lesser 
magician type person. 

1964
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:40,200
Saw this coming convinced some 
other people was able to prove 

1965
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:44,800
to them that the Doom was coming
and they left valyria and 

1966
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:46,700
carried some secrets with them 
in part. 

1967
01:43:46,700 --> 01:43:49,300
One of the reasons they knew 
they could get away with it was 

1968
01:43:49,300 --> 01:43:51,900
they knew that the people who 
would want to come after them 

1969
01:43:51,900 --> 01:43:54,900
for the secrets would soon all 
be blown away by the tomb. 

1970
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:56,900
So they were like, we could get 
away with this because they're 

1971
01:43:56,900 --> 01:44:00,500
all going to die. 
Yeah, and again, that brings us 

1972
01:44:00,500 --> 01:44:03,400
back to Emperor, Orion. 
And maybe some of his 

1973
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:08,000
manipulations, or maybe he 
seeing valyria destroyed. 

1974
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:11,500
He knew that. 
Well, someone in his court. 

1975
01:44:11,500 --> 01:44:15,400
When his followers, one of his 
top Artisans, someone sworn to 

1976
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:18,500
him, was one of the people that 
knew how to make learning steel.

1977
01:44:18,500 --> 01:44:23,400
And that guy, maybe stayed 
behind in Co horror, while a 

1978
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:27,100
Orion went off to subjugate the 
subcontinent and when Orion 

1979
01:44:27,100 --> 01:44:31,400
didn't return that guys like 
Guess it's time to set up shop 

1980
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:34,700
here. 
So the ingredients were already 

1981
01:44:34,700 --> 01:44:35,900
there. 
Some of the groundwork was 

1982
01:44:35,900 --> 01:44:37,300
already there. 
It's pretty cool. 

1983
01:44:37,300 --> 01:44:40,100
A lots of possibilities here. 
We can't get like all the way 

1984
01:44:40,100 --> 01:44:43,100
there, but can really see how 
the elements add up to this 

1985
01:44:43,300 --> 01:44:48,000
happening. 
The closest modern tale. 

1986
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:50,700
We have here is on a guy named 
Meister poll. 

1987
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:53,500
Now we don't know when this 
happened but it's probably 

1988
01:44:53,500 --> 01:44:56,900
fairly recent. 
And he tried to fish out the 

1989
01:44:56,900 --> 01:44:59,600
secret a few times and got 
punished a few times. 

1990
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:03,700
Here's the quote Meister. 
Paul's Treatise on for horak 

1991
01:45:03,700 --> 01:45:07,300
metalworking written, during 
several years of residence, in 

1992
01:45:07,300 --> 01:45:11,500
the free City reveals just how 
jealously the secrets are 

1993
01:45:11,500 --> 01:45:16,200
guarded, he was rice publicly 
whipped and A stout from the 

1994
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:18,700
city for making too many 
inquiries. 

1995
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:22,600
The final time. 
His hand was also removed 

1996
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:26,800
following the allegation that he
stole a Valyrian steel blade. 

1997
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:31,500
According to Paul the true 
reason for his at final Exile, 

1998
01:45:31,900 --> 01:45:36,000
was his discovery of blood 
sacrifices hooting, the killing 

1999
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:40,100
of slaves as young as infants, 
which the go Horrocks myths, 

2000
01:45:40,100 --> 01:45:44,100
used in their efforts to produce
a steel to equal that of the 

2001
01:45:44,100 --> 01:45:46,100
free whole. 
So, Sean, um, A good question 

2002
01:45:46,100 --> 01:45:48,700
here, you notice is that they 
need to do sacrifice, not to 

2003
01:45:48,700 --> 01:45:52,600
make it, but just to remix it so
that caused you to think of a 

2004
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:55,300
make a connection there. 
Didn't it with ice? 

2005
01:45:55,300 --> 01:45:56,400
Yes, right ice? 
Yes. 

2006
01:45:56,400 --> 01:46:01,000
Because he reforged is well for 
all we know it was right around 

2007
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:02,800
the same time. 
Period. 

2008
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,900
Roberts bastards were killed, 
right? 

2009
01:46:05,900 --> 01:46:07,600
Not exactly. 
I need to point out that comes a

2010
01:46:07,608 --> 01:46:10,000
little bit later, that's a 
little, it comes a little bit 

2011
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:12,600
later. 
It's borrow was killed by the 

2012
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:15,400
time of Tyrion Clash of Kings 
and tearing to class. 

2013
01:46:15,500 --> 01:46:18,900
She Kings and Gendry, they were 
already hunting for Gendry by 

2014
01:46:18,900 --> 01:46:20,300
that point. 
So you ran away at the end of 

2015
01:46:20,300 --> 01:46:23,200
The Game of Thrones Tyrion 
doesn't give the Tywin, doesn't 

2016
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:27,000
have ice melted down until the 
end of a Clash of Kings. 

2017
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:29,900
So like all these kids are 
killed, way it. 

2018
01:46:29,900 --> 01:46:33,100
Well before that and they're not
killed any sort of sacrificial 

2019
01:46:33,100 --> 01:46:34,500
way. 
They're killed by Sir sees 

2020
01:46:34,500 --> 01:46:36,700
people? 
Yeah, to be clear, I didn't 

2021
01:46:36,700 --> 01:46:40,500
think that necessarily Tywin or 
whoever killed the bastards in 

2022
01:46:40,500 --> 01:46:42,500
order to have that at your 
house. 

2023
01:46:42,500 --> 01:46:44,000
Yeah. 
What for but it might have been 

2024
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:47,000
a happy coincidence. 
Happy, I will have to tell you, 

2025
01:46:49,300 --> 01:46:52,100
even if it wasn't Roberts 
bastards. 

2026
01:46:52,100 --> 01:46:55,400
Yeah, I don't think time would 
have batted an eye if he told 

2027
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:59,700
tobo maje, I want you to reforge
Send it to more swords and told 

2028
01:46:59,700 --> 01:47:01,400
my side. 
Well, I need the blood of a 

2029
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:03,300
child. 
Tom was like, okay, how many 

2030
01:47:03,300 --> 01:47:04,600
children? 
Yeah, you know, like I don't 

2031
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:07,800
think is like, oh never mind. 
They need to look a certain way.

2032
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:09,600
What hair color. 
I thought you'd think he'd I got

2033
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:12,400
you bro. 
I don't care about that. 

2034
01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:14,700
I would said yeah, I agree with 
you time when would not scruple.

2035
01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:17,900
Yeah. 
And I don't know, maybe just 

2036
01:47:17,900 --> 01:47:20,300
another factor to consider that 
doesn't necessarily prove 

2037
01:47:20,300 --> 01:47:21,800
anything, but didn't those 
blades? 

2038
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:24,100
Have a red tint to them? 
They did. 

2039
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:26,500
And he was like, other Valerian 
blades. 

2040
01:47:27,100 --> 01:47:30,800
Don't Really have read tense and
even if what magic was used, but

2041
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:33,300
maybe this is reforging other, 
maybe blurring blades aren't 

2042
01:47:33,300 --> 01:47:37,400
reforge, or maybe told him it's 
not just good or he got 

2043
01:47:37,500 --> 01:47:41,500
teenagers blood instead of but, 
you know, I think of all kinds 

2044
01:47:41,500 --> 01:47:44,000
of reasons why maybe it's a 
little different but they I 

2045
01:47:44,000 --> 01:47:48,900
still can't help but have these 
different Pieces come together 

2046
01:47:48,900 --> 01:47:52,300
to feel like Jordans hinting at 
least at the idea. 

2047
01:47:52,300 --> 01:47:55,000
Yeah it is it is clear. 
He's here because he okay so 

2048
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:56,300
let's let's review what actually
happened. 

2049
01:47:56,300 --> 01:47:59,300
He brings the swords to I went 
and he's like, I'm sorry I can't

2050
01:47:59,300 --> 01:48:01,500
get them. 
The Lannister red that you want.

2051
01:48:01,500 --> 01:48:04,700
Every time I do it, it just gets
darker. 

2052
01:48:04,700 --> 01:48:06,800
He's like these Valyrian, this 
Valyrian steel. 

2053
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:10,000
It's kind of got, you know, will
of its own this dark sorcery. 

2054
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:13,200
Kind of, he's like, I he refers 
to spells that he uses to make 

2055
01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:17,000
the color which is probably just
something he calls it to make it

2056
01:48:17,008 --> 01:48:20,000
sound, you know, he might even 
thinks dispelled they don't 

2057
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:22,700
understand the nature of 
chemistry and how molecules 

2058
01:48:22,700 --> 01:48:24,800
interact boy. 
Yeah, he may not be lying. 

2059
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:27,600
He may just think that it is a 
spell like for him it basically.

2060
01:48:27,700 --> 01:48:29,700
Is a spell, that's a great 
Point. 

2061
01:48:30,300 --> 01:48:32,000
Either way, tywin's happy with 
it. 

2062
01:48:32,008 --> 01:48:34,300
He's like, oh yeah, don't worry 
about it man. 

2063
01:48:34,300 --> 01:48:36,100
This looks great. 
It's just rare. 

2064
01:48:36,100 --> 01:48:40,300
A rare show of magnanimity from 
tout magnanimity from Tywin, 

2065
01:48:40,700 --> 01:48:42,300
actually. 
Like, he's actually like happy, 

2066
01:48:42,900 --> 01:48:47,700
you know, for a second, like 
almost smiles, But something is 

2067
01:48:47,700 --> 01:48:50,600
a lot of odd things about this. 
Anecdote? 

2068
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:53,900
All right there, Sean, besides 
the that thing that you pointed 

2069
01:48:53,900 --> 01:48:57,700
out, there's also this like all 
they did was cut his hand off 

2070
01:48:57,700 --> 01:49:01,700
for stealing, Valyrian steel all
and they he discovered blood 

2071
01:49:01,700 --> 01:49:05,300
sacrifices and all that, and all
they did was Exile him. 

2072
01:49:05,300 --> 01:49:08,800
Like that does imply that it's 
a, you know, he didn't actually 

2073
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:11,200
get secret, they like, they're, 
they're confident he doesn't 

2074
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:12,800
understand it or else they 
would. 

2075
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:14,700
They would want to kill him, to 
keep him from spreading it. 

2076
01:49:14,700 --> 01:49:16,200
Then I call that dude doesn't 
actually know. 

2077
01:49:16,900 --> 01:49:19,800
Grid or we'd have to kill him. 
It's also interesting. 

2078
01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:23,200
I think that even if he doesn't 
know the full secret, the fact 

2079
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:25,700
that he's trying so hard and has
been warned not to. 

2080
01:49:25,900 --> 01:49:29,600
And at least I'll sensibly stole
a blade, it still seems like 

2081
01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:32,300
that's enough to kill them. 
Like, why did they not kill him?

2082
01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:35,500
I wonder if it's better for him,
better for them to leave him 

2083
01:49:35,500 --> 01:49:37,500
alive. 
Maybe it implies, there's less 

2084
01:49:37,500 --> 01:49:41,300
to steal, or maybe it implied. 
Maybe he's got some things wrong

2085
01:49:41,300 --> 01:49:44,300
and they're happy to let him 
spread misinformation because 

2086
01:49:44,300 --> 01:49:46,700
yeah, like oh, he's saying he's 
telling me. 

2087
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:49,000
All these wrong things. 
As what about like this, like 

2088
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:51,100
this thing is probably wrong. 
Like, it doesn't like Tha 

2089
01:49:51,100 --> 01:49:55,400
Beaumont probably didn't kill a 
child to reforge ice and and 

2090
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:58,400
there's a really good reason why
I like for he protected Gendry. 

2091
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:01,100
So like this guy just isn't and 
heat like even when Ned was 

2092
01:50:01,300 --> 01:50:05,600
quizzing him, Ned decides, he 
likes table home mom's because 

2093
01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:09,400
of the way he protected. 
Gendry really does not scream 

2094
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:11,600
child sacrifice at all. 
Yeah. 

2095
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:13,400
Right. 
Like this is there's a strong 

2096
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:16,200
piece of evidence against it. 
Maestra Paul's probably wrong 

2097
01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:18,500
about this. 
There's probably not, maybe they

2098
01:50:18,500 --> 01:50:21,200
do it, but it isn't necessarily 
might be some corks miss that. 

2099
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:23,800
Sacrifice a kid for good luck. 
Just so, you know. 

2100
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:26,400
Yeah, better to sacrifice one 
than not, right? 

2101
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:29,300
Just in case but Tabo mods. 
Like now you don't do that and 

2102
01:50:29,300 --> 01:50:33,100
he's not in cohorts, so he 
doesn't have to go through the 

2103
01:50:33,100 --> 01:50:35,900
who follow some tradition. 
Yeah, he knows you knows better 

2104
01:50:35,900 --> 01:50:38,500
and being separated from cohort.
Maybe he's learned a lot in his 

2105
01:50:38,500 --> 01:50:40,400
own experiences own 
experimenting. 

2106
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:43,100
Exactly. 
So it seems like there's some 

2107
01:50:43,100 --> 01:50:44,900
wiggle room here for Maestra 
pole. 

2108
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:48,300
The reason they let him go as he
He didn't really discover the 

2109
01:50:48,300 --> 01:50:50,000
truth. 
They're like this guy is 

2110
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:52,300
annoying. 
Cut his hand off and kick him 

2111
01:50:52,300 --> 01:50:54,200
out, but he's not a real 
problem. 

2112
01:50:54,700 --> 01:50:59,100
Maybe because like a lot of 
maesters, he's not fully 

2113
01:50:59,100 --> 01:51:02,600
accepting of magic and as an 
element to this and so that 

2114
01:51:02,700 --> 01:51:05,300
Park, it's downplayed. 
But that seems unlikely because 

2115
01:51:05,300 --> 01:51:08,500
like what fool could think, 
there's no magic involved in 

2116
01:51:08,500 --> 01:51:10,300
Valyrian steel, like it has to 
be magic. 

2117
01:51:10,300 --> 01:51:13,000
It doesn't lose its Edge, right?
Like, I guess he could maybe 

2118
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:15,500
think that's a work of, man. 
It's hard to get. 

2119
01:51:15,500 --> 01:51:18,600
You're getting the mind of When 
you really get into the minutiae

2120
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:23,200
of what people in this setting 
would see as magic and not 

2121
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:27,200
magic. 
Analog, analog reality, I don't 

2122
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:29,600
know. 
So it also may be tells us that 

2123
01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:30,900
they just haven't we discovered 
the secret. 

2124
01:51:30,900 --> 01:51:32,700
They're still trying to figure 
it out themselves or like yeah 

2125
01:51:32,700 --> 01:51:34,000
that's that's the reason he 
can't steal. 

2126
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:36,500
The secret is they don't even 
have it themselves. 

2127
01:51:36,500 --> 01:51:39,800
All they know is the remix and 
not the report but it does 

2128
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:41,100
imply. 
They're still trying if they're 

2129
01:51:41,100 --> 01:51:44,600
still trying hunting, the old 
methods and one day, perhaps 

2130
01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:50,000
they'll stumble on it again. 
It also implies that he wasn't 

2131
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:51,700
just after the secrets of 
Valyrian steel. 

2132
01:51:51,700 --> 01:51:56,900
It says Meister, poles Treatise 
on caloric metalworking, not 

2133
01:51:56,900 --> 01:52:00,300
just Valyrian steel. 
It's co horak metal work. 

2134
01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:02,700
So he was also trying to figure 
out how high their swords and 

2135
01:52:02,700 --> 01:52:04,500
armor are better than Westeros 
and stuff. 

2136
01:52:04,500 --> 01:52:07,400
So his interest wasn't entirely 
balerion steal here. 

2137
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:11,300
That's a really important aspect
to make sure people understand 

2138
01:52:11,300 --> 01:52:13,300
because whenever this anecdote 
comes up, it sounds like that 

2139
01:52:13,300 --> 01:52:15,300
was his main interest was 
Valyrian steel know. 

2140
01:52:15,300 --> 01:52:17,500
He was just trying to study all 
the steel and blurry and steals 

2141
01:52:17,500 --> 01:52:21,400
just But the most interesting 
one, I suppose the most peculiar

2142
01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:25,600
bizarre the most misunderstood 
moving on to the other forms of 

2143
01:52:25,608 --> 01:52:29,200
magic of returning to them. 
Anyway yeah Valyrian steel and 

2144
01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:30,800
blood magic. 
You can see how that's relate 

2145
01:52:30,900 --> 01:52:33,100
especially if you take it back 
even farther and get into the 

2146
01:52:33,100 --> 01:52:36,500
tales of likeness and Nyssa 
forging lightbringer which 

2147
01:52:36,500 --> 01:52:38,300
sounds like there was blood 
magic there. 

2148
01:52:38,300 --> 01:52:40,600
You got someone jamming a sword 
in someone's heart to make the 

2149
01:52:40,600 --> 01:52:43,300
sword work and before that you 
tried a bull Heart of a Lion. 

2150
01:52:43,300 --> 01:52:47,000
That's pretty blood magic e Dawn
similar. 

2151
01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:53,300
Qualities to it, but pale white 
instead of, you know dark which 

2152
01:52:53,300 --> 01:52:55,300
may be implies. 
There was no sacrifice of used 

2153
01:52:55,300 --> 01:52:58,100
to create it. 
It's wholesome like Blurry and 

2154
01:52:58,100 --> 01:53:02,300
steel but still it's peculiar 
because it has this same 

2155
01:53:02,300 --> 01:53:04,900
lightness and sharpness and 
permanence to it. 

2156
01:53:04,900 --> 01:53:08,100
That otherwise is the same as 
learn steel, but clearly looks 

2157
01:53:08,100 --> 01:53:12,600
different and unlike any other 
blade so that also implies magic

2158
01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:16,500
but a different form of magic 
yet similar considering the 

2159
01:53:16,500 --> 01:53:19,600
result is so simple. 
Yeah, and the ferris magical 

2160
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:22,300
purposes outside of blood magic.
We talk about the supply of 

2161
01:53:22,300 --> 01:53:24,900
different types of animals that 
might be relevant like certain 

2162
01:53:24,900 --> 01:53:27,600
animals, produce different 
results in blood magic. 

2163
01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:30,500
I don't know how this stuff 
works, you know, towed it. 

2164
01:53:30,700 --> 01:53:33,600
You know the heart of wings of a
bat, I have Newt, you know, all 

2165
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:35,000
that sort of stuff. 
Right. 

2166
01:53:35,300 --> 01:53:38,000
You've got boars and Elks and 
stuff in the fourth Decor. 

2167
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:39,500
Got different magical 
ingredients. 

2168
01:53:39,500 --> 01:53:41,900
I don't know, mushrooms. 
I think I mentioned the 

2169
01:53:41,900 --> 01:53:43,600
mushrooms already but that's got
to be a thing. 

2170
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:46,900
I think there's a lot of you, a 
lot of mushroom for and 

2171
01:53:46,900 --> 01:53:49,700
mushrooms. 
Religion and Magic go together 

2172
01:53:49,700 --> 01:53:53,000
because people get into trances 
and maybe it was mushrooms that 

2173
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:55,300
led to someone to perceiving the
black goat. 

2174
01:53:55,300 --> 01:53:58,600
The first time maybe that's how 
h p Lovecraft perceived it 

2175
01:54:00,100 --> 01:54:03,300
divination know, in general, 
there's lots of forms of 

2176
01:54:03,300 --> 01:54:05,100
divination. 
I wonder what their artisanal 

2177
01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:07,100
crafts. 
I wonder if they've ever made 

2178
01:54:07,100 --> 01:54:11,000
glass candles or if that was 
purely, a Valyrian, only thing 

2179
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:13,700
because we're pretty far from 
the volcanoes and you know, it's

2180
01:54:13,700 --> 01:54:17,600
Frozen fire on one hand. 
They're so good with forges and 

2181
01:54:17,700 --> 01:54:19,900
lame in general and the 
controlling of fire on the other

2182
01:54:19,900 --> 01:54:24,100
hand. 
That magic Source may require 

2183
01:54:24,100 --> 01:54:27,400
the volcanoes is like a hinge of
the power. 

2184
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:33,500
I don't know, still pretty cool.
Necromancy, what about that? 

2185
01:54:33,500 --> 01:54:36,300
I could kind of see it working 
better there, than in other 

2186
01:54:36,300 --> 01:54:39,600
places because it's colder. 
So, decomposition would would 

2187
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:41,700
take longer and when you're 
working with dead bodies 

2188
01:54:41,700 --> 01:54:45,800
decomposition, seems like that's
a relevant thing to have to deal

2189
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:49,300
with. 
Don't you know anything about 

2190
01:54:49,300 --> 01:54:51,300
necromancy is Jesus? 
The more did competition the 

2191
01:54:51,300 --> 01:54:53,900
better. 
Oh okay, so I want more 

2192
01:54:53,900 --> 01:54:56,400
decomposition. 
Okay, so say I take it all back.

2193
01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:58,400
This is a terrible place for 
necromancy. 

2194
01:54:58,400 --> 01:55:00,600
I don't know if you don't want 
them to be barely necro. 

2195
01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:03,100
We want them to be fully necros.
This is it possible? 

2196
01:55:03,100 --> 01:55:09,200
This is just all about the necks
of crows Crow man. 

2197
01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:11,800
Why is it all man? 
See, is there any necro woman? 

2198
01:55:11,800 --> 01:55:15,500
See, ya, definitely. 
A lot of possibilities. 

2199
01:55:15,500 --> 01:55:17,800
Not a lot to like really get our
hands deep. 

2200
01:55:17,900 --> 01:55:20,600
Pintu. 
So tell us what you think, what 

2201
01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:24,300
other sorts of magic you think 
might be gone and cohort or any 

2202
01:55:24,300 --> 01:55:27,100
thoughts, y'all have we'd be, 
we'd love to hear it will maybe 

2203
01:55:27,100 --> 01:55:29,200
shout them out in a future 
episode, lots of room for 

2204
01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:32,600
theorizing. 
So have at it y'all our last 

2205
01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:35,100
section 4 days people and 
characters. 

2206
01:55:36,100 --> 01:55:41,700
Given the suggestion of the Tsar
Nori cities being destroyed one 

2207
01:55:41,700 --> 01:55:45,200
by one by the death rack Nina. 
Suggest that there were 

2208
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:48,400
refugees, not all the sorry were
arrogant enough to Stay there 

2209
01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:50,600
and expect the winds. 
Some of them are like some you 

2210
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:54,000
guys. 
I think we can win but like 

2211
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:57,400
their 444 on destroying our 
cities so far, I'm going to 

2212
01:55:57,400 --> 01:55:59,500
leave. 
Yes, some people probably let 

2213
01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:02,900
unlike lease, which is on the 
opposite end of the Spectrum 

2214
01:56:02,900 --> 01:56:04,800
which has a lot of leery and 
blood because it's like the 

2215
01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:08,800
dragonlords playground where 
they father bastards and you 

2216
01:56:08,808 --> 01:56:14,600
know all the time and live there
a lot cohort or doesn't sound 

2217
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:18,900
like there is nearly as much 
Valyrian blood in place there. 

2218
01:56:19,100 --> 01:56:23,600
So it would be more of terms of 
Nick makeup, you might have more

2219
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:27,700
Soren re Bloodlines maybe just 
other people from like lorath 

2220
01:56:27,700 --> 01:56:30,000
and maybe old and dolls things 
like that. 

2221
01:56:30,300 --> 01:56:32,900
Not entirely clear, but there's 
a decent chance. 

2222
01:56:32,900 --> 01:56:36,100
It's got a bit, more of a 
Melting Pot feel to it. 

2223
01:56:36,100 --> 01:56:39,000
Then might think for one of the 
free cities is it certainly not 

2224
01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:41,700
going to be like Bravo's, which 
is the ultimate Melting Pot of 

2225
01:56:42,500 --> 01:56:44,900
the world. 
As far as we know, cohort mine 

2226
01:56:45,200 --> 01:56:48,000
actually be more diverse than 
one would think. 

2227
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:52,600
It's not a port, so it's still 
kind of limited in terms of like

2228
01:56:52,700 --> 01:56:55,800
truly being a worldly, 
Cosmopolitan City and, you know,

2229
01:56:55,800 --> 01:56:57,900
can't be Cosmopolitan. 
When your deity, is the black 

2230
01:56:57,900 --> 01:57:00,500
goat. 
But hey, that's what I'm saying.

2231
01:57:00,500 --> 01:57:02,300
It's probably more so than you 
would think. 

2232
01:57:02,300 --> 01:57:06,000
Given those factors, who else 
has been there? 

2233
01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:09,200
Fanny, the saris, of course, 
Georgia and Drogo the golden 

2234
01:57:09,200 --> 01:57:11,300
company Baris. 
Like we said, probably has been.

2235
01:57:11,300 --> 01:57:14,500
There's probably a lot of others
who had a sojourn there. 

2236
01:57:14,500 --> 01:57:17,900
We might hear later, someone 
might think of it having been 

2237
01:57:17,900 --> 01:57:19,300
there. 
Like, oh, Person's been to 

2238
01:57:19,300 --> 01:57:20,800
cohort. 
I didn't realize that 

2239
01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:22,500
Melisandre. 
Maybe he's been there. 

2240
01:57:22,500 --> 01:57:24,100
Mokoro. 
Who knows? 

2241
01:57:24,500 --> 01:57:27,000
Someone who's older? 
That's been around a while and 

2242
01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:30,200
as melisandre's apparently quite
old and someone is that oldest 

2243
01:57:30,200 --> 01:57:33,500
had time to get around? 
I think your arms been there. 

2244
01:57:34,100 --> 01:57:37,400
Interesting. 
Well, it's not easily accessible

2245
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:39,500
by ship. 
So that kind of might take it 

2246
01:57:39,500 --> 01:57:41,900
off the list but if he's 
searching for like forms of 

2247
01:57:41,900 --> 01:57:45,700
magic, you could use to bring 
back and, you know, utilize in 

2248
01:57:45,708 --> 01:57:48,600
his quest then maybe. 
Yeah, maybe. 

2249
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:50,400
Oberon. 
Whoo. 

2250
01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:52,800
Yeah, that's possible. 
He's definitely been overseas. 

2251
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:55,200
He definitely fought in the free
companies and the free company. 

2252
01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:57,500
He's fought in, maybe went to 
cohort and the one. 

2253
01:57:57,500 --> 01:58:00,600
He founded maybe took contract 
there. 

2254
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:02,100
Yeah. 
That's that's entirely possible.

2255
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:04,800
That's a very good call. 
I like that one. 

2256
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:08,800
One that we know for sure is 
strong beloit's strong beloit's 

2257
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:15,900
when it was sold from Marine to 
cohort, which might mean the, 

2258
01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:18,600
there's pit fights there, but I 
don't think so. 

2259
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:20,800
I don't we don't hear of 
anything like that. 

2260
01:58:20,900 --> 01:58:22,400
So I think he was just sold 
their to be a guard. 

2261
01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:26,300
I think he was done pit 
fighting, which is why he was 

2262
01:58:26,300 --> 01:58:30,700
sold from marine and then 
illyrio bought him from cohort. 

2263
01:58:32,600 --> 01:58:35,000
Not sure why he picked him 
specifically. 

2264
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:36,300
Interesting. 
Maybe. 

2265
01:58:36,300 --> 01:58:40,300
Because he had been from a 
stupor and that's eaten. 

2266
01:58:40,300 --> 01:58:42,800
And he'll area wanted someone 
from a stupor, or had been out 

2267
01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:44,900
that part of the world to be a 
Danny side. 

2268
01:58:44,900 --> 01:58:46,700
Makes sense. 
Someone who's thinking picked 

2269
01:58:46,700 --> 01:58:48,800
him because he was strong ah, 
that too. 

2270
01:58:48,900 --> 01:58:49,800
That's him. 
Yes. 

2271
01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:54,300
And he is he is not a bad choice
by illyrio. 

2272
01:58:56,300 --> 01:58:58,600
So he and he has a good guard, 
you know, when you say that 

2273
01:58:58,600 --> 01:59:00,400
whole hired naivete never seen 
one of the hard knives. 

2274
01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:04,200
Well, strong Bell wasp was right
there for some protection. 

2275
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:07,600
Of course, it came in the form 
of poison locusts, but 

2276
01:59:08,700 --> 01:59:11,000
bodyguards got a bodyguard one, 
Whatever. 

2277
01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:16,400
Whatever It Takes y'all. 
The street of Steel in Kingsland

2278
01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:19,700
is where most of the metal 
workers in the city have their 

2279
01:59:19,700 --> 01:59:21,700
shops. 
And there's a, like a hierarchy 

2280
01:59:21,700 --> 01:59:24,800
here, the closer you are to 
visenya is Hill. 

2281
01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:29,800
The Fancier the shop, especially
as the shops are going up the 

2282
01:59:29,800 --> 01:59:33,900
hill where it's like, visibly a 
visible hierarchy as it leads 

2283
01:59:33,900 --> 01:59:35,700
towards the sept of baelor, 
right? 

2284
01:59:36,100 --> 01:59:41,600
The highest up shop the tippy 
top table home odds guardian of 

2285
01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:46,100
Gendry liked by Ned. 
We talked about the reforging of

2286
01:59:46,100 --> 01:59:50,400
ice and the child stuff but he 
says he's the only one in the 

2287
01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:51,900
city. 
Who knows how to color through 

2288
01:59:51,900 --> 01:59:55,200
the metal coloring thing, which 
makes you think, man. 

2289
01:59:55,200 --> 01:59:57,600
If you're a cohort Can you know 
how to do these things? 

2290
01:59:57,600 --> 02:00:01,000
Yes, set up shop somewhere else,
you'll be the best in town and 

2291
02:00:01,000 --> 02:00:04,200
you'll make bank because it 
looks like top of mods doing 

2292
02:00:04,200 --> 02:00:09,000
quite well for himself. 
He owns a shop and has a big 

2293
02:00:09,000 --> 02:00:13,800
house like multi storey house on
the sand, use Hill and he's you 

2294
02:00:13,808 --> 02:00:16,700
know, Westeros isn't the kindest
to foreigners. 

2295
02:00:16,700 --> 02:00:20,700
I wouldn't call it Zena phobic. 
But this guy is a foreigner and 

2296
02:00:20,700 --> 02:00:23,800
he's become wealthy there. 
He kind of made his way in 

2297
02:00:23,800 --> 02:00:26,100
another city, so that's that's 
pretty cool. 

2298
02:00:27,000 --> 02:00:28,900
Isn't he? 
Also the one that made the green

2299
02:00:28,900 --> 02:00:32,100
armor was that? 
Yeah, that he made renly's armor

2300
02:00:32,100 --> 02:00:34,800
know he had that he didn't make 
renly's armor, renly's Army was 

2301
02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:38,400
painted, he specifically Renly 
came to him, but didn't actually

2302
02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:41,200
buy from him, I think I'm right.
Oh yeah, I think I think that's 

2303
02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:42,200
right. 
I could be wrong. 

2304
02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:44,100
Could be readily you. 
He might have done really there 

2305
02:00:44,100 --> 02:00:46,600
but I think not he actually 
says, he's the best in the Seven

2306
02:00:46,600 --> 02:00:50,000
Kingdoms and it's one of those 
times where You might actually 

2307
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:53,300
not be bragging that might be 
true might actually be right. 

2308
02:00:54,400 --> 02:00:57,300
The biggest city in the whole 
Kingdom an armor from the city 

2309
02:00:57,300 --> 02:00:59,400
that produces the but yeah I can
believe it. 

2310
02:00:59,400 --> 02:01:02,400
He's sitting might actually be 
true too bad for gundry. 

2311
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:04,800
He was in a really good spot. 
He would have learned from, he 

2312
02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:07,600
was learning from him and he did
get, you know, he learned enough

2313
02:01:07,600 --> 02:01:11,000
to learn how to forge a Helm and
enough to work for the brother 

2314
02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:13,400
without banners, but that's kind
of cool, right? 

2315
02:01:13,400 --> 02:01:17,100
The Brotherhood without banners 
their blacksmith was taught by a

2316
02:01:17,100 --> 02:01:21,500
cohort, so they might have 
Better steel than most Outlaw 

2317
02:01:21,500 --> 02:01:24,700
bands would have. 
Even though he wasn't, he didn't

2318
02:01:24,700 --> 02:01:26,700
fully, he didn't complete his 
apprenticeship. 

2319
02:01:26,700 --> 02:01:31,800
But table Ahmad said, the boy 
had promised and refused to out 

2320
02:01:31,800 --> 02:01:36,200
his true identity. 
I just wanted to make a joke 

2321
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:39,300
that somewhere down the line, 
someone's got to come along and 

2322
02:01:39,300 --> 02:01:46,300
call themselves better Steel. 
Next up someone that Ned would 

2323
02:01:46,300 --> 02:01:50,400
not like is Vargo hoat. 
The Paragon of Ethics that he 

2324
02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:53,100
is. 
He actually uses the black Goat 

2325
02:01:53,100 --> 02:01:55,700
as His Banner while leading the 
brave companions though, it's 

2326
02:01:55,700 --> 02:01:59,100
probably not the banner of the 
Brave companions historically, 

2327
02:01:59,700 --> 02:02:03,900
because we're told that it 
hasn't always been led by a 

2328
02:02:03,900 --> 02:02:05,200
cohort. 
They're not a cohort free 

2329
02:02:05,200 --> 02:02:07,600
company, even though their 
leader is currently one. 

2330
02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:12,500
But remember, when we brought up
the star Nori Refugee, some 

2331
02:02:12,500 --> 02:02:15,300
people that may have fled Tsar 
nor an To the track e and 

2332
02:02:15,300 --> 02:02:18,900
settled in cohort. 
Well, Vargo hoat is unusually 

2333
02:02:18,900 --> 02:02:21,900
tall and the sorry, were the 
tall, man. 

2334
02:02:22,500 --> 02:02:25,800
Maybe his chance that he has, 
sorry ancestry. 

2335
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:28,500
But the sorry would not like to 
claim him as one of their own. 

2336
02:02:28,500 --> 02:02:31,100
I'm sure. 
But, but hey, they aren't around

2337
02:02:31,100 --> 02:02:34,900
to complain. 
Now Vargo is also known as the 

2338
02:02:34,900 --> 02:02:38,700
goat go to harrenhal and he had 
a goatee with 0 that term does 

2339
02:02:38,700 --> 02:02:41,000
not exist in Westeros. 
They do not call it a goatee, 

2340
02:02:41,000 --> 02:02:44,700
they just call it chin beard. 
I look I was like no goatee but 

2341
02:02:44,700 --> 02:02:47,100
then I looked up chin beard and 
that that comes up several times

2342
02:02:47,900 --> 02:02:51,700
really. 
Get you a goat, Ste one of the 

2343
02:02:51,700 --> 02:02:54,200
other, of course, one of the 
other holders of a chin beard is

2344
02:02:54,200 --> 02:02:58,100
a little thing. 
Who is similar ethics to Vargo 

2345
02:02:58,100 --> 02:03:01,000
hoat? 
I don't know that little finger 

2346
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:03,400
will have the ending of our go. 
Do you had one of the worst 

2347
02:03:03,500 --> 02:03:07,300
endings of all slowly 
dismembered by Gregor? 

2348
02:03:07,700 --> 02:03:10,500
And I would point out that those
that, that type of facial hair 

2349
02:03:10,500 --> 02:03:13,700
is often associated with the 
devil, just like the goat. 

2350
02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:15,300
Mmm. 
Yeah. 

2351
02:03:16,600 --> 02:03:20,100
Who else, who has not seen art 
of like, Satan of the devil of 

2352
02:03:20,100 --> 02:03:22,000
like a little chin. 
A little goatee. 

2353
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:23,500
That's true. 
It's true. 

2354
02:03:23,900 --> 02:03:29,700
Never a full beard for him. 
Jamie had jawsman pickle, didn't

2355
02:03:29,700 --> 02:03:32,700
throw Vargo. 
Hoat Rogers Haute, vargo's head 

2356
02:03:33,800 --> 02:03:36,600
is Cote. 
D'Ivoire goats coach made of 

2357
02:03:36,600 --> 02:03:40,300
goat. 
We have the makings of a really 

2358
02:03:40,300 --> 02:03:49,100
fun Limerick here. 
Yes, that's coach was a little 

2359
02:03:49,100 --> 02:03:58,100
rhyme about Fargo home. 
Goat fat. 

2360
02:04:02,400 --> 02:04:04,100
So yeah. 
So jobs he had, Jamie had 

2361
02:04:04,100 --> 02:04:07,200
jawsman, pickled and throw Vargo
hoat Ed into the gods eye. 

2362
02:04:07,200 --> 02:04:12,000
So, this is a black goat skull 
down, in the depths, maybe, 

2363
02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:18,300
maybe near a some, some other 
famous bones down there among 

2364
02:04:18,300 --> 02:04:22,700
his many ethnicities. 
So, we're not 100% sure. 

2365
02:04:22,700 --> 02:04:27,000
He's being honest here, this guy
at the most honest, man Brown 

2366
02:04:27,100 --> 02:04:29,300
Ben Plum claims. 
He's got some cohort through his

2367
02:04:29,300 --> 02:04:30,900
grandmother. 
He also claimed his enemies and 

2368
02:04:30,900 --> 02:04:33,100
the enemies can't aren't 
supposed to be able to mate with

2369
02:04:33,500 --> 02:04:36,100
humans. 
So he's met a little with humans

2370
02:04:36,100 --> 02:04:40,800
just they don't make me like 
well it's that like men women we

2371
02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:44,800
like it were only certain it's 
the whole like Giants and humans

2372
02:04:44,800 --> 02:04:48,800
marrying like true that you 
maybe an ebony is man can't meet

2373
02:04:48,800 --> 02:04:51,700
with a human woman but in 
Ebony's woman can make with a 

2374
02:04:51,708 --> 02:04:55,400
human man that kind of thing so 
I do think that's very possible 

2375
02:04:55,400 --> 02:04:57,000
anyways. 
No brown bear. 

2376
02:04:57,100 --> 02:05:02,600
And plums slander and if knees 
woman mate with a plum. 

2377
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:10,300
Okay, here's our final quote of 
the day, it's an interesting 

2378
02:05:10,300 --> 02:05:12,600
footnote, that's another part 
for arrive. 

2379
02:05:12,600 --> 02:05:17,400
Oh yeah, quote foot, it's gonna 
be great. 

2380
02:05:17,500 --> 02:05:24,600
Limerick, a whore to consider as
far as their future goes, here 

2381
02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:27,700
it is. 
To believe that the stand of the

2382
02:05:27,708 --> 02:05:31,900
3,000 of cohorts put an end to 
Dothraki dreams of Conquest. 

2383
02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:36,900
However suggests a complacency 
akin to that of the high king of

2384
02:05:36,900 --> 02:05:39,900
Tsar. 
Noor's when the horselords first

2385
02:05:39,900 --> 02:05:44,100
came boiling out of the East 
wiser men know it is only a 

2386
02:05:44,100 --> 02:05:48,400
matter of time until the callous
ours unite again under some 

2387
02:05:48,400 --> 02:05:52,800
great Paul and turn west. 
Once more in search of new, 

2388
02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:57,600
conquests some great. 
Call me, hmm. 

2389
02:05:57,700 --> 02:06:00,000
Perhaps these stallion who 
mounts the world. 

2390
02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:06,100
Maybe if the Dothraki want to go
west again, cohort would be the 

2391
02:06:06,100 --> 02:06:11,200
first city on there, you know 
map there since they were 

2392
02:06:11,200 --> 02:06:14,000
stopped by the 3,000 that way it
was next and then they got 

2393
02:06:14,000 --> 02:06:15,500
stopped. 
So if they were to start up 

2394
02:06:15,500 --> 02:06:16,600
again that's where they would 
go. 

2395
02:06:17,300 --> 02:06:19,600
I'm not so sure Danny would go 
to Koh whore. 

2396
02:06:20,300 --> 02:06:24,000
But she might. 
Well she might and she might 

2397
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:30,800
send like a Detachment there to 
danil or to work out a deal or 

2398
02:06:30,800 --> 02:06:33,200
to threaten them and it would 
not be good for them. 

2399
02:06:33,200 --> 02:06:34,800
They don't want to deal with the
death Rocky. 

2400
02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:36,800
They don't want to have that 
fight. 

2401
02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:38,800
They might pay them off. 
They might give what's needed. 

2402
02:06:38,800 --> 02:06:41,200
They made. 
Yeah, certainly is interesting 

2403
02:06:41,200 --> 02:06:43,700
to consider too because they 
think they have unsullied Arts 

2404
02:06:43,800 --> 02:06:46,100
there. 
And Danny is like mother of the 

2405
02:06:46,100 --> 02:06:49,300
unsullied innocence at least 
those ones that follow her and 

2406
02:06:49,300 --> 02:06:51,900
maybe those ones could made me 
part of convincing them to be 

2407
02:06:51,900 --> 02:06:54,600
like Down. 
Of course the unsullied are 

2408
02:06:54,600 --> 02:06:57,800
particularly loyal. 
On the other hand, the other 

2409
02:06:57,800 --> 02:07:01,600
other hand, these are the same 
unsullied that are just on board

2410
02:07:01,600 --> 02:07:05,000
guard duty all day long and 
maybe aren't what they used to 

2411
02:07:05,000 --> 02:07:06,900
be. 
Their training is falling off. 

2412
02:07:06,900 --> 02:07:10,800
It's been years since they've 
been trained and, you know, 

2413
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:13,800
nothing was reinforcing that 
they're not being beaten to stay

2414
02:07:13,800 --> 02:07:16,900
in line anymore. 
That might also be the thing 

2415
02:07:16,900 --> 02:07:20,300
that she would go there for or 
send someone there for is to 

2416
02:07:20,300 --> 02:07:22,000
release the slaves. 
Yeah, exactly. 

2417
02:07:22,000 --> 02:07:24,200
I had to pay make sure of you, 
I'm not going to set your city 

2418
02:07:24,500 --> 02:07:27,000
but you have to release your 
slow man and solid would be 

2419
02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:31,600
slaves themselves and might be 
hey, that's being basically any 

2420
02:07:31,600 --> 02:07:33,900
place. 
That's killing children slaves 

2421
02:07:33,900 --> 02:07:36,900
or has children slaves or any 
slaves but especially child 

2422
02:07:36,900 --> 02:07:40,100
slaves. 
Would be on Danny's Blacklist, 

2423
02:07:40,100 --> 02:07:41,500
the black goats on her 
Blacklist. 

2424
02:07:41,500 --> 02:07:43,700
Yeah. 
She would want to either. 

2425
02:07:43,700 --> 02:07:46,000
Do you want to deal with it one 
way or another right? 

2426
02:07:46,500 --> 02:07:48,800
It makes a lot of sense that you
just go right back to Marine 

2427
02:07:48,800 --> 02:07:51,900
first and maybe stop off in 
volantis on the way maybe lease 

2428
02:07:51,900 --> 02:07:54,500
and mirror anti-russian they're 
actually on the Waco horse on 

2429
02:07:54,500 --> 02:07:58,100
the way but she could make it on
the way for part of her Army. 

2430
02:07:58,100 --> 02:08:03,500
If she really unites the entire 
Dothraki race into one horde, 

2431
02:08:03,500 --> 02:08:07,900
you can send a card lit off to 
the to go. 

2432
02:08:08,100 --> 02:08:12,500
Is led by someone she trusts you
know likes and Dario yeah or one

2433
02:08:12,500 --> 02:08:15,600
of her blood rites and Recaro 
you know like how much really 

2434
02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:18,400
trusts, you know, like mean she 
kind of trust Dario but her 

2435
02:08:18,400 --> 02:08:22,300
blood Riders sworn to her and 
they're like Ultra loyal so send

2436
02:08:22,300 --> 02:08:24,600
some unsalted with them to you 
know, like I don't know there's 

2437
02:08:24,600 --> 02:08:27,800
much that love the idea. 
I don't know if George is going 

2438
02:08:27,800 --> 02:08:30,800
to fit that into the story. 
Yeah, it's expansive enough. 

2439
02:08:30,800 --> 02:08:32,400
It's the wrong direction. 
The off page. 

2440
02:08:32,400 --> 02:08:34,100
That's why I think of it does 
happen won't be Danny going 

2441
02:08:34,100 --> 02:08:36,100
their self again. 
We hear that she sends men to do

2442
02:08:36,100 --> 02:08:39,100
this and they submit and we just
saw A couple paragraphs like 

2443
02:08:39,100 --> 02:08:40,300
they do. 
We do have room for a couple 

2444
02:08:40,300 --> 02:08:43,500
pair, but yeah, I agree. 
We don't, we're probably not 

2445
02:08:43,500 --> 02:08:46,100
going to go there directly at 
least not in Dan's POV. 

2446
02:08:46,300 --> 02:08:48,900
You never know someone else. 
Although I can't guess anyone. 

2447
02:08:48,900 --> 02:08:51,900
I can't think of anyone who 
seems likely but hey, it's a 

2448
02:08:51,900 --> 02:08:53,600
great City. 
It's interesting. 

2449
02:08:53,600 --> 02:08:55,200
There's a lot of stories that 
could be told they're just 

2450
02:08:55,200 --> 02:08:58,500
because it doesn't happen in A 
Song of Ice and Fire his fandoms

2451
02:08:58,500 --> 02:09:01,000
wide open. 
We gotta imagine bigger than 

2452
02:09:01,000 --> 02:09:02,600
what's coming in the rest of the
books. 

2453
02:09:02,600 --> 02:09:05,600
We know they're going to do more
shows, more other things here 

2454
02:09:05,600 --> 02:09:07,900
and there who knows what the 
future holds and cohort. 

2455
02:09:08,100 --> 02:09:11,900
Got to be part of that future. 
I think maybe dunk goes there. 

2456
02:09:12,400 --> 02:09:14,600
Oh, that would be cool. 
Yeah. 

2457
02:09:14,600 --> 02:09:17,800
Dunk and egg going to co whore? 
I'm a can see why they would go 

2458
02:09:17,800 --> 02:09:20,000
to the disputed lands and those 
areas because of bike, the 

2459
02:09:20,000 --> 02:09:21,400
golden company and all that 
stuff. 

2460
02:09:21,400 --> 02:09:24,000
But yeah why not? 
It's also not a really good 

2461
02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:25,400
reason. 
It's pretty far away. 

2462
02:09:25,400 --> 02:09:27,700
I don't think it's likely but I 
just want to go everywhere. 

2463
02:09:28,000 --> 02:09:30,000
Yeah. 
In his cues from were drunk 

2464
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:32,200
story so it sounds like a few 
people. 

2465
02:09:32,200 --> 02:09:36,700
Got the trivia question, right? 
The question again, was, who 

2466
02:09:36,700 --> 02:09:40,400
else was called a? 
A code, the full explanation of 

2467
02:09:40,400 --> 02:09:44,900
this was posture Tully, calling 
the Blackfish, the black goat of

2468
02:09:44,900 --> 02:09:48,700
the Tully flock, and he goes. 
Yeah, but Polly's, our fish. 

2469
02:09:48,700 --> 02:09:52,400
So, I'm the Blackfish and that's
where his nickname came from. 

2470
02:09:52,400 --> 02:09:55,600
So someone named little finger 
guests, first little finger, you

2471
02:09:55,600 --> 02:09:59,000
already knew that little finger,
then Megan wolf and ran a 

2472
02:09:59,000 --> 02:09:59,700
pitcher. 
Good job. 

2473
02:09:59,700 --> 02:10:03,100
Y'all, another trivia question 
next week for you to test your 

2474
02:10:03,400 --> 02:10:06,100
Song of Ice and Fire knowledge, 
with it will be Celtic our house

2475
02:10:06,100 --> 02:10:12,100
L cigar won the vote beating out
how Tarth the arbor and Esther 

2476
02:10:12,100 --> 02:10:15,300
Mont Little Island. 
I kind of want to do a poll next

2477
02:10:15,300 --> 02:10:17,400
week and asked people how they 
say itself. 

2478
02:10:17,400 --> 02:10:20,300
Cigar Celtic are gonna find out 
alive. 

2479
02:10:20,300 --> 02:10:23,000
Probably is the same as how 
people say Celtic or Celtic, 

2480
02:10:23,000 --> 02:10:25,700
right? 
Yeah, I'm very similarly, 

2481
02:10:25,700 --> 02:10:27,600
similar. 
I would ever be curious if it's 

2482
02:10:27,600 --> 02:10:29,600
if people are the same. 
Yes. 

2483
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:32,300
Yeah, we could do a little poem 
Nancy, what people say and then 

2484
02:10:32,308 --> 02:10:35,300
we'll we report if we were if we
remember will include that in 

2485
02:10:35,300 --> 02:10:37,800
the episode next week. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2486
02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:41,700
Yeah, we mentioned a lot of 
episodes or topics that refer to

2487
02:10:41,700 --> 02:10:43,900
other episodes. 
We've done the Centre of blood 

2488
02:10:44,200 --> 02:10:47,500
loss blur and steel with Tommy 
Pappas, blood magic, which would

2489
02:10:47,500 --> 02:10:50,700
be the most recent of these 
gaseous, which is a bonus 

2490
02:10:50,700 --> 02:10:55,000
episode available to patrons, go
to patreon.com/scishow of 

2491
02:10:55,000 --> 02:10:58,300
Westeros or sign up for Spotify 
and you get the episode that way

2492
02:10:58,500 --> 02:11:01,700
the kingdom of Sorrow nor 
episode 1 of our ballerinas, for

2493
02:11:01,700 --> 02:11:03,000
the world of Ice and Fire 
episodes. 

2494
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:06,300
We got had a lot of fun with 
that more Lovecraft influence 

2495
02:11:06,300 --> 02:11:07,900
there as well. 
By the way, love captain. 

2496
02:11:08,000 --> 02:11:12,000
It's like the Lovecraft 
influence part of the world up 

2497
02:11:12,000 --> 02:11:13,900
in the Northwestern corner 
there. 

2498
02:11:14,500 --> 02:11:17,500
So thanks you all those of you 
who are already patrons or 

2499
02:11:17,500 --> 02:11:20,900
Spotify subscribers or those of 
you who donate through our 

2500
02:11:20,900 --> 02:11:23,000
website. 
There is a third option there, 

2501
02:11:23,000 --> 02:11:26,900
you can just send a one-time 
donation, thanks to Nina for her

2502
02:11:26,900 --> 02:11:29,400
great notes. 
The idea of the Tsar Nori 

2503
02:11:29,407 --> 02:11:33,400
refugees, for example, moving to
Coho was her idea among many 

2504
02:11:33,400 --> 02:11:36,400
other things, but I particularly
like that call, so I'll shout it

2505
02:11:36,400 --> 02:11:40,100
out again. 
Also, Joey, Jesse and Brad, 

2506
02:11:40,100 --> 02:11:44,100
thanks to you all for the music,
the intros, and outros, and 

2507
02:11:44,100 --> 02:11:47,600
Michael Farr fell of course, 
who's got his hand intro outros,

2508
02:11:47,600 --> 02:11:50,000
as well as these awesome Maps, 
you see behind us. 

2509
02:11:50,800 --> 02:11:54,800
I referred to his maps all the 
time, especially at these 

2510
02:11:54,800 --> 02:11:57,000
world-building episodes. 
I'm trying to like, look up with

2511
02:11:57,000 --> 02:12:00,200
the geography is and remember 
what's nearby, what their trade 

2512
02:12:00,200 --> 02:12:03,100
Partners probably are, or were 
this map in particular is 

2513
02:12:03,100 --> 02:12:06,100
awesome because it has all the 
ruins of the Iraqi cities with 

2514
02:12:06,100 --> 02:12:09,700
its original Rocky names written
on there and all that. 

2515
02:12:09,700 --> 02:12:12,700
It's really good. 
Oh, we got a nice little poem 

2516
02:12:12,700 --> 02:12:15,200
from Julie a to send us off to, 
okay? 

2517
02:12:15,200 --> 02:12:18,600
I like it a lot Vargo. 
Hoat cooked, a goat and flavored

2518
02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:21,200
it with pride. 
Those who ate vargo's goes were 

2519
02:12:21,200 --> 02:12:25,400
caused die, I cooked holds goat,
but didn't add the Rye, I'll be 

2520
02:12:25,400 --> 02:12:26,700
blamed. 
I'm not fame. 

2521
02:12:26,700 --> 02:12:30,400
And have been known to lie. 
It's real fun while eventually 

2522
02:12:30,500 --> 02:12:32,300
from that's awesome. 
Good job. 

2523
02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:34,000
Yeah. 
My the trivia question was 

2524
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:37,000
almost who ate the Flesh of 
Vargo hoat. 

2525
02:12:37,500 --> 02:12:39,400
Oh yeah. 
I was working on one myself, I 

2526
02:12:39,400 --> 02:12:41,300
go all even listen to you. 
I was like I wanted right was 

2527
02:12:41,300 --> 02:12:43,900
like a quote, I wrote about that
renowned goat Fargo. 

2528
02:12:43,900 --> 02:12:47,900
Hope I just never just wrote to 
him, I must promote and vote and

2529
02:12:47,900 --> 02:12:49,400
vote. 
That's right. 

2530
02:12:49,800 --> 02:12:51,300
I have a lot. 
I would like you got all that in

2531
02:12:51,300 --> 02:12:53,600
like eight minutes. 
That's really good. 

2532
02:12:54,600 --> 02:12:57,200
I'm think I'm inspired. 
He's Perfect Limit. 

2533
02:12:57,900 --> 02:13:00,100
Yeah. 
Anyways, I hopefully will 

2534
02:13:00,100 --> 02:13:02,100
remember. 
And we'll have more Pope's 

2535
02:13:02,300 --> 02:13:04,600
Prime. 
Thanks Julie. 

2536
02:13:04,800 --> 02:13:05,900
Yeah. 
Well, we'll go to the 

2537
02:13:05,900 --> 02:13:07,600
dictionary. 
Find everything that runs 

2538
02:13:07,600 --> 02:13:09,100
worked. 
Um, there and flip them all. 

2539
02:13:09,100 --> 02:13:14,900
Yeah, with that all the more 
reason to do a rearing because 

2540
02:13:14,900 --> 02:13:17,500
you'll find more examples and 
more inspiration. 

2541
02:13:18,300 --> 02:13:24,000
So I say what I always say as we
bid you adieu, well are we 

2542
02:13:24,000 --> 02:13:24,600
Wheats?
