1 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,840 Egon the 4th legitimized all his bastards on his deathbed, and 2 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,520 how much pain, grief, war and murder grew from that. 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,560 I know you trust John, but can you trust his sons or their 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:18,440 sons? The Black Fire pretenders 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,760 troubled the Targaryens for five generations until Barristan the 6 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,880 Bolt slew the last of them on the step stones. 7 00:00:24,080 --> 00:00:27,240 Now, as King Rob was writing his will, Catelyn tried to impress 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,280 upon him the dire consequences of legitimizing bastards. 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,600 Black fire rebellions were the best possible choice for her 10 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,600 example, as they represent the worst case scenario. 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,560 So hello and welcome to another episode of History of Westeros 12 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,480 Podcast, a podcast dedicated to George RR Martin's A Song of Ice 13 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:47,760 and Fire book series, as well as HBO's Game of Thrones. 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,480 This yes, HBO's game. Of Thrones. 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,280 This is episode 1, Seeds of the Black Fire Rebellion. 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,760 This is the first of many episodes leading up to the 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,160 Battle of Red Grass Field, the final battle of the first Black 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,040 Fire Rebellion. This episode is spoiler free 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,840 except for The World of Ice and Fire and some very, very mild 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,320 Duncan Egg spoilers. They're so mild that they're 21 00:01:11,320 --> 00:01:13,440 really barely worth mentioning. Yeah, just some of the 22 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,120 historical backdrop that is featured in those stories, 23 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:18,640 nothing actually related to the stories themselves. 24 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,840 So you won't be spoiled on the plots of those at all. 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,320 Before we get started, we have a few announcements and things to 26 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:27,920 go through and we'll try to make it quick. 27 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,120 Of course, as usual, we have people behind the scenes that 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,240 are giving us a little bit of help, helping us with either 29 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,680 research or certain topics or just giving us their opinion on 30 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,520 certain theories and things like that, that help us, you know, 31 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,480 kind of put it all together and, and make sure like we do to take 32 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,720 the whole picture of things. So a big, a big shout out to 33 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,480 helper Rainey's Targaryen from the West rest.org boards, who is 34 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,800 the probably leading expert on the planet as far as a Song of 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,720 Ice and Fire timelines. And she also does some of her 36 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,360 own writings on the boards as well. 37 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:02,800 So you can check that out. Check her out. 38 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,280 She's got some good stuff. If you've looked at the wiki, 39 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,920 you've she she's helped you out. That's true, yeah. 40 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,440 If you've ever read the Wiki of Ice and Fire at all, you are 41 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:11,840 familiar with her work. So there you go. 42 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,800 Now, as far as people who have helped financially, of course, 43 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:22,720 we have to give those people their just their due and almost, 44 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,760 let's say just desert. Yeah, you bad people giving us 45 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,120 money. So first of all, a shout out to 46 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,200 our new Hand of the King, an official title from our Patreon 47 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,760 subscribers. That is Cash Craig. 48 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,120 You'll be hearing his name. Yeah, Cash Craig, you'll be 49 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,480 hearing his name a lot because one of the benefits of being 50 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,960 handed the king is getting your name mentioned every episode. 51 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,080 So that's that. Thanks a lot Cash. 52 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,080 He's one of our biggest supporters and a great guy. 53 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,080 We we we talk all the time. So he's certainly a few of the 54 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,120 thoughts and have made it in our episodes in the past. 55 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,400 At least a couple of those are hit to his credit. 56 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,920 Also James Saunders from the UK. Thanks very much James for your 57 00:02:57,920 --> 00:03:00,280 support. You've been one of our biggest 58 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,040 supporters and we wanted to thank you for that. 59 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,520 Also Steven Lewis thanks Steven for the support and Jordan 60 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,560 Glover thank you as well. If we missed anybody that we 61 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,440 owed a shout out, please let us know. 62 00:03:10,640 --> 00:03:14,000 We've done some we we've changed a few things around lately, and 63 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,440 some things may have gotten lost in the shuffle. 64 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,360 We no longer do automatic shout outs. 65 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,520 If you missed that announcement, if you ask for one, you'll get 66 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,160 one, provided you give a donation of course. 67 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,320 But we don't do that by default anymore. 68 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,360 So onward. We did have one thing that 69 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,320 people have been asking us, they don't know our names. 70 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,840 That's right. Some people, we used to say that 71 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,640 regularly, but we don't anymore. And we kind of just assumed 72 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,480 everybody knows who we are, but we're constantly getting new 73 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,680 subscribers. It's important for us to kind of 74 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,120 remind people who we are. I'm Aziz. 75 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,360 And I'm a Shaya. If you watch us on YouTube, 76 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,320 you'll notice that our name is AA Podcast. 77 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,120 That's why it's a a podcast. YouTube wouldn't wouldn't let us 78 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,200 have our title be History of Australos all the way. 79 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:56,840 Yeah. For some reason so. 80 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,000 That's the story. We're not We're not Azor a high 81 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:04,000 podcast. So anyway, on onto the episode. 82 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,000 We're really excited to do the Black Fire rebellions as as a 83 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,360 Shaya said. There's going to be several, 84 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,960 probably 6-7 or eight episodes for the Black Fire. 85 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,520 And that's just the first part here. 86 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,320 It's a great topic. It's one of the biggest 87 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,320 historical topics, one of the most important topics. 88 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,040 So let's stop talking about it and get into it. 89 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,960 In my opinion, in our opinion, in a lot of your opinions, you'd 90 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,320 probably share this opinion that George RR Martin crafts 91 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,280 characters thoroughly and beautifully. 92 00:04:30,280 --> 00:04:32,240 Their relationships, they make sense. 93 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,040 The laws of human nature are followed. 94 00:04:34,280 --> 00:04:37,040 This makes it more compelling, It feels more realistic, and 95 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,360 it's so prevalent in his writing that it applies not just to A 96 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,640 Song of Ice and Fire, but to the back story to the history. 97 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,360 The Blackfire epic feels like several stories written between 98 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,320 the lines and well, that's because there are several 99 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,560 stories written between the lines. 100 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,840 And there are some others that are just spelled out and meant 101 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:56,320 to be taken its face back. Absolutely a great combination 102 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,320 of both. This episode and its companions 103 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,800 will seek to highlight these hidden stories as we always do 104 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,560 at History of Westeros, and one of the main ways we'll seek to 105 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,880 understand the Blackfyre Rebellions is by examining the 106 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,160 lives of those who made it happen, as well as the major 107 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,040 events that they caused. By looking through the eyes of 108 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,680 the main characters will reveal the events that shaped these key 109 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,680 individuals. Why did Damon Blackfyre rebel? 110 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,600 Why was Bitter Steel so bitter? And in particular today, why was 111 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,680 Egg on the 4th called The Unworthy? 112 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,600 You'll see that there are quite a few reasons he earned that 113 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,120 nickname now. But because we're dealing with 114 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,840 people whose whims could cause war, whose blood makes them 115 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:36,440 traitors, whose legacy would threaten stability for 116 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,520 generations, well, it makes sense to look at why they behave 117 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,920 the way they do. Simply put, it's the history of 118 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,000 the characters who made history. This is a worthwhile endeavor 119 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,360 only because George RR Martin has made it so with with most 120 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,760 authors, the more you dig, the more holes you find, the the 121 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,720 less it fits and the less it makes sense. 122 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,960 The mysteries become smoke, the shiny surfaces become mirrors. 123 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,880 This undermines enjoyment. So why even do it? 124 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,840 Why look behind the curtains if it's going to break the spell? 125 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:05,320 Because we want to. Because it's fun. 126 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,160 Damn. It, I mean, to you and me, to 127 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,560 all the listeners out there, we're curious. 128 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,600 And with George, the more we dig, the better it seems to get, 129 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,280 the more it seems to make sense, really. 130 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,920 Yeah, instead of Curiosity killing the cat, Curiosity 131 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,080 resurrects the cat by the dozen and sends it forth to do its 132 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,560 bidding, then creates a religion based on this zombie cat cult. 133 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,240 So this cat. Zombie Cat. 134 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:27,600 Zombie cat. Oh, there we go. 135 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,560 It all fits. But this cat, or this king who 136 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,440 fathered so many important bastards, was by extension also 137 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,200 the father of the Blackfyre Rebellions. 138 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,560 What better place to begin? We've divided his life into five 139 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,480 parts, one for each king he lived under, including himself, 140 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,120 his own weight. You could maybe make him 141 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,080 describe that he lived under himself. 142 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,440 That didn't work. Each Targaryen king had a unique 143 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,480 and crucial impact on Aegon, on the realm, on Dorne, and in 144 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,000 setting up our main topic, the Blackfyre Rebellions. 145 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,440 When he became king in 172 AC upon the death of his father, 146 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,800 Viserys the Second, Aegon the 4th used the power of the throne 147 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,080 above all else to satisfy his desires. 148 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,200 It wasn't exactly the most ambitious, although he was very 149 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,280 ambitious about, you know, women and drinking and eating. 150 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,160 And getting the throne itself. Yeah, that's true. 151 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,440 And actually getting there was maybe perhaps the one thing he 152 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,480 was truly ambitious about in affairs of state. 153 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,720 He was absent at best. Archmaester, Case wrote. 154 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,960 No king before or after would practice so much willful 155 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,000 misrule. So it actually sounds more like 156 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,120 things were better when he wasn't trying to rule. 157 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,080 His attention was more destructive than his 158 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,960 carelessness, you could say. And I put another way, the times 159 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,040 he wasn't involved with his mistresses may have been worse 160 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,120 than the times he was. If we were to rank the Targaryen 161 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,920 kings by who the absolute worst were, the one of the first we'd 162 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,440 think of of course is the Mad King. 163 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,360 Mega or the Cruel would probably come to mind too, but egg on the 164 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,160 fourth was arguably the worst of them all. 165 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:56,360 Who do you think the worst is? Disease. 166 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,400 I think it's a it's a close call. 167 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,120 I think I'm maybe just because I've spent so much time thinking 168 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,800 about egg on the 4th recently. It kind of highlights to him, 169 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,600 but I could see the argument for maybe Aries or I don't. 170 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,280 I don't really think there's another guy that. 171 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,440 Yeah, I think, I think it's Aries because I think that he's 172 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,480 the only one of them that, you know, caused the downfall of the 173 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,320 Targaryens, whether you know how much he was truly the downfall. 174 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,160 And I do think that was overall bad for the realm, at least at 175 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,560 the moment. So I I, I think he's the worst. 176 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,840 Yeah, that's a good point. The the whole idea that 177 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,920 especially if you're a Targaryen fan and the guy who you know 178 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,799 blew it for the Targaryens, that's that's a pretty big deal. 179 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,240 As far as the creating the most war and death, it's that's a 180 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,799 toss up. I'm not really sure who you 181 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:40,039 could. They both caused so much it's 182 00:08:40,039 --> 00:08:44,240 hard to say who was worse. So anyway, feel free to let us 183 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,360 know who you think was worse the the Mad King or egg on the 4th. 184 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,080 But wait till we've given you the full story before you make 185 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,080 your decision. So we'll start at the beginning 186 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,360 of his life, because George has laid the foundation for us to 187 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,120 understand, at least in part, why Egg on the 4th became Egg on 188 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,680 the Unworthy. What kind of king could earn 189 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,160 such a nickname? What kind of man could cause 190 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,960 such chaos? So this is Part 1, born in 191 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,080 Aftermath, the reign of Egg on the Third, born in 135 to 192 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,240 Viserys Targaryen and Lara Rogare of Lease during the tail 193 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,120 end of the Regent Wars, which was essentially a power struggle 194 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,000 enabled by Egg on the Third Youth. 195 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,600 The Regent Wars however ended suddenly when the in King came 196 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,520 of age, of course no more region and he took a firm hand. 197 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,560 Our Aegon's father Viserys was eventually made Hand of the King 198 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,680 and he was the Hand of the King for the 2 after him, but this 199 00:09:33,680 --> 00:09:36,560 probably came later as Viserys was only 14 at this time. 200 00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:38,680 Now a quick note. We're going to call him our 201 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:41,680 Aegon quite a bit in this episode to distinguish him from 202 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,560 all the other Aegon's that come up. 203 00:09:43,560 --> 00:09:46,040 Of course, Aegon is a really, really common name in the 204 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,880 Targaryen line. And we can't just call him Aegon 205 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,280 the 4th all the time because we're we're dealing with his 206 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,440 whole life and he wasn't king, you know, when he was born or 207 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,720 anything. So just a little note there to 208 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,200 hope you hopefully you guys will get too confused. 209 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,840 There's also a lot of Darrons and we mentioned Viserys several 210 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,200 times, but there's just the one Viserys, so don't need to get 211 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,160 confused there. Now for the most part, Aegon 212 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,360 never seemed very likely to rule in the 1st place, though the 213 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,560 Regent wars were tumultuous. The King's life, Aegon the Third 214 00:10:13,560 --> 00:10:16,240 here's our first, you know, reason for specifying which 215 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,760 Aegon is. Aegon the Aegon the Third's life 216 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,000 didn't seem to be in much danger despite the region wars. 217 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,960 Though his first queen was probably murdered, he himself 218 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,080 didn't seem to be in much danger. 219 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,400 And of course, he's a as we said, he was a very young man, 220 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,840 so we would expect him to live many more years and probably 221 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,880 have more children. So that would just push Aegon 222 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,840 farther and farther back. A year or so after our Aegon was 223 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,240 born, his brother Aamon followed and a six year winter ended. 224 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,400 Though this episode is mostly about his brother, the Prince 225 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,960 later called the Dragon Knight could easily have an episode of 226 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,960 his own, and he probably will. He's a great character. 227 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,440 Going through all this info, it just became a yeah. 228 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,120 Now, Aamon and Aegon both became amongst the most famous of 229 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,320 Targaryens, but they became famous in very different ways. 230 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,800 The two would have many disagreements, some of which 231 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,400 were so famous that they're still remembered. 232 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,640 Yeah, and their stories are clearly important as George RR 233 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,800 Martin brings them into the narrative at a fairly early 234 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,040 point. The brothers are spoken of by 235 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,080 Maester Eamonn in a famous moment for Jon Snow, the scene 236 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,480 when he discovers that the maester is actually a Targaryen. 237 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,720 My grandfather named me for Prince Amon the Dragon Knight, 238 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,680 who was his uncle or his father, depending on which tale you 239 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:25,640 believe. Amon, he called me. 240 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,800 Depending on which tale you believe is the key phrase of 241 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:33,320 that quote there it's it's the question that all Westeros asked 242 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,920 itself during the Blackfyre Rebellions while choosing to 243 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,240 fight either for the Black Dragon or the Red. 244 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,240 Now the quote itself is an indirect reference to the 245 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,520 Blackfyre Rebellions, and it seems to be the first in the 246 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,560 entire series. And John later speaks to Lord 247 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:48,960 Commander Mormont about this. And Mormont also knows the 248 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,720 history. And this shows us that these 249 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,240 tales are still pretty well known. 250 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:55,560 And so here we have this quote. Here, Maester Amon was named for 251 00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:57,040 the Dragon Knight. So he was. 252 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,320 Some say Prince Amon was King Garron's true father, not Aegon 253 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,320 the Unworthy. So this parentage question 254 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,760 question is still a topic well over 100 years later, and it's 255 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,440 established as early as the first book. 256 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,360 Yeah, that great early reveal in Game of Thrones is our first 257 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,560 mention of the two together, though Amon is mentioned prior 258 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:17,560 to the scene and so as near as their sister George made these 259 00:12:17,560 --> 00:12:20,400 ancient tales part of the Song of Ice and Fire epic almost 260 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,760 right away, so. Yeah, So how about that bit of 261 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,360 subtlety? Early in the series, John is 262 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,480 getting an education on a conflict that hinged on a 263 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,080 question of parentage and bastardy sneaky. 264 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,560 And it's a question that specifically poses the question 265 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:36,840 of whether someone is a father or an uncle. 266 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,920 I mean, that's crazy. Now, these these same questions 267 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,800 are crucial to John's own storyline. 268 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,760 And This is why you just have to reread. 269 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,680 It's really, really, really easy to miss the full significance of 270 00:12:47,680 --> 00:12:50,880 this, because the shock of learning that the maestro is a 271 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,160 Targaryen conceals it. It's still a powerful scene on 272 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,880 the reread, but there won't be any shock. 273 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,080 True that. To be clear, one of the two 274 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:02,000 major claims Damon Blackfyre had to the Iron Throne was the rumor 275 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,920 that King Garon the Second was actually the son of Prince Aim 276 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,880 and the Dragon Knight in a different light. 277 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,560 That's that's a huge improvement. 278 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,680 A big compliment. Son of the Dragon Knight? 279 00:13:10,680 --> 00:13:12,760 Hell yeah. Would you much rather be son of 280 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,680 the Dragon Knight than son of a guy called the unworthy? 281 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,600 Except for the whole, you know, that would mean that you're no 282 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,760 longer the heir to the throne or whatever. 283 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,680 So there's the matter of completely nullifying your all 284 00:13:24,680 --> 00:13:27,000 your rights to the crown. If true, that is. 285 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,520 And that is the big question. If true. 286 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,840 And and how can one know? Again, there's a there's a DNA 287 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,040 test in Westeros. Yeah, it's not unlike Santis's 288 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,560 claim versus Joffrey, Ambassador King pretending to be true born. 289 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,480 Of course, the major difference here is that we readers know for 290 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,400 a certainty who Jo Who Joffrey, Taman, and Marcella's parents 291 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,400 are, while we don't know the truth regarding Amon or Aegon as 292 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,720 the father of Deron. But in both cases, the 293 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,600 characters in the story just don't know the truth. 294 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,320 Other than a select few, most Westerosi don't know if Taman is 295 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,120 a Baratheon or an incest Lannister, so everyone is left 296 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,800 to weigh what evidence they do or don't have, and this relies 297 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,920 on what rumors or stories are told and who tells them. 298 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,680 Yeah, in the end, here's a great quote. 299 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:16,000 Treason is only a word. When 2 Princess fight for a 300 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,880 chair where only one may sit. Great Lords and common men alike 301 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,440 must choose. And when the battles done, the 302 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,200 victors will be hailed as loyal men and true, whilst those who 303 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,360 were defeated will be known forevermore as rebels and 304 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,200 traitors. So like that sneaky awesome John 305 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,760 parallel, we also have Prince Eamonn and Sir Jamie Lannister, 306 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,960 both Kingsguard Knights suspected in having fathered the 307 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,760 King on the Queen, and in both cases, the Queen is their 308 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,080 sister. So there we have two rich 309 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,640 history repeats itself situations, and we're going to 310 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,760 continue to notice similarities to other characters as we move 311 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,920 along here. And there are a lot. 312 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:54,840 Yeah, as as always, George's historical backdrop often has 313 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,120 very strong parallels to the current story, and that's one of 314 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,160 the things that gives so much value in examining these 315 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,640 historical stories already. We've got parallels to John's 316 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,000 parentage, John's battery, we've got parent, we've got parallels 317 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,320 to Jamie and Cersei. And and yeah, that's going to be 318 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,840 more the other of the two, two major claims was that that Damon 319 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,080 had to the throne was that he possessed not just the name 320 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,960 Blackfire, but the Targaryen sword of Kings that bears the 321 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,120 same name. Now like Aim and the Dragon 322 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,240 Knight, there's a good chance we'll do a bonus episode just 323 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,880 dedicated to the sword Blackfire, which is of course 324 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,680 the Valyrian steel blade wielded by Aegon the Conqueror himself. 325 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,360 So look for an episode along along that about that rather at 326 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:35,520 some point in the next couple months. 327 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:40,000 But in the meantime, Aegon and Aamon's sister, the mother in 328 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,120 these questions of parentage and Aegon's future wife, was born 329 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,360 two years later in 138. She was a delicate child who 330 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,440 grew up to be gentle and extremely pious. 331 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,520 She also grew up knowing her father would likely marry her to 332 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,880 her brother Aegon at some point, probably fairly fairly early on. 333 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,640 This must have given her a deep sense of foreboding. 334 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,080 Having him to look forward to as a husband, husband for life, 335 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:04,560 must have been pretty soul crushing. 336 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,320 It might have a lot to do with her frailties, though. 337 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,240 Those could have men in born. She was a very light eater and 338 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,520 appeared emaciated at times, and she found physical activity very 339 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,880 toxic. As we'll see, as we'll see 340 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,280 throughout this episode, her frailties didn't slow Aegon, her 341 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,000 future husband, down at all. He didn't care that what he was 342 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,320 doing to her was likely to kill her, and that's part of why he 343 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,520 was the unworthy anyway. It's tempting to It's tempting 344 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,320 to connect Aegon's eventual descent into lust and pleasure 345 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,800 seeking, which got worse pretty much with every year of his 346 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,040 life. Connecting that to his mother's 347 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:44,480 lysine origin is maybe something that's tempting to do. 348 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,520 The Lysenia are known for their pleasure houses, and the city 349 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,080 was originally founded as a vacation spot for the elite of 350 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,960 Valyrian society. Very fancy. 351 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,800 That is an incredibly racist thought that that that he that 352 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,880 he was pleasure seeking just because he's half Lyseni. 353 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,920 I'm very sorry to any Lyseni out there that they may have 354 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,560 offended. Yes, I'm not normally racist, 355 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,240 but those Lyseni, I swear they get me every time. 356 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,720 But within a year or so of Nary's birth, when Egon was 357 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:15,800 about four, Laura, his mother, returned to lease, leaving all 358 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:16,960 three of her children motherless. 359 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,560 We don't know why she left, but the incredibly powerful Rogare 360 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,000 family was devastated by a series of deaths that led to 361 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,079 massive decline within a generation. 362 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,160 Her return to lease may have been related to all of this 363 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,160 turmoil. I mean, it's not easy to see 364 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:34,400 your family fall from what was said to be more powerful than 365 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,040 the Iron Bank to a minor power at best. 366 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,280 But it's also not easy to abandon your three young 367 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,200 children. What the heck? 368 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,200 Yeah, right. It's really hard to fathom. 369 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:47,160 So at age 4, Agon was surely old enough to perceive this loss of 370 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,720 mother. You know, 4 year olds typically 371 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,440 want their mothers, which was certain. 372 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,080 So it was probably very traumatic for him and it was our 373 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,640 first major clue to his personality. 374 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,240 Amon a year, only a year younger at age 3, almost certainly felt 375 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:04,200 the trauma as well. Nares she no doubt was impacted 376 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,440 by life without having a mother like who wouldn't be, but she 377 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,480 was so young. At least she was spared the 378 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,160 trauma of her leaving. She she was only about a year 379 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,520 old, so she probably couldn't perceive what was happening. 380 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,800 Now of course, that's like I said, it's still going to have a 381 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:21,200 huge impact on her life, but the lack of the trauma may maybe 382 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,200 something that is important when we're judging these guys for 383 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:25,320 their personalities and stuff, so. 384 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,640 Yeah, I can't. You know, it's interesting. 385 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,400 I can't help but think of Rickon and Catelyn when I think of 386 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,320 little Aegon. That's a good point. 387 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,440 That's a good point. Catelyn never came back either. 388 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,800 Yeah, that's true, but I also can't help but wonder if Laura 389 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,200 tried to communicate or communicated with her children. 390 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,520 I mean, she could have sent them letters via ship pretty pretty 391 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,280 easily. Yeah, she's a powerful. 392 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,360 Yeah, someone could have read it to them. 393 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,480 Yeah, you'd think that maybe that was a possibility, but if 394 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,920 not, if that it didn't happen, it might only just deepen their 395 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,720 sense of loss or of abandonment. So it in either. 396 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,600 In any case, growing up without her probably contributed to 397 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,000 Aegon and Aamon developing extreme personalities. 398 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,280 Though they were both, they were opposites in many ways. 399 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,560 Aegon and Aamon, they had at least that much in common. 400 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:07,920 They're both really extreme guys. 401 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,680 Aegon ate and drank and counted. No day complete without a woman 402 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,840 in his bed now. While Aamon trained, prayed and 403 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,760 may have never had sex. Yeah, Aegon had an absurd number 404 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,640 of mistresses. While Ayman joined the 405 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,520 Kingsguard at an absurdly young age. 406 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,680 Aegon, perhaps in part because his mother may have showed no 407 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,360 responsibility nor love for him, felt no responsibility nor love 408 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:32,440 for anyone else, given his self-destructive tendencies that 409 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:37,000 lack extended to his own person. While Ayman felt the heavyweight 410 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,760 of responsibility, perhaps heightened by his brother's 411 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,280 constant opposite example, but his willingness to endanger 412 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,040 himself in the name of self sacrifice, of which will show 413 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:50,080 many examples, shows courage and a tolerance for harm that far 414 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,640 exceed what anyone would name typical not just among Knights, 415 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,360 but among anyone. Yeah, so for nares, the lack of 416 00:19:57,360 --> 00:20:00,680 mother who would have had some ability to relate, Lara herself 417 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,200 was married to a man not of her own choosing, which is pretty, 418 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,120 you know, that's like par for the course for, you know, no 419 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,680 noble born marriages, etcetera. So but in any case, Nary's 420 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,840 didn't have that and she didn't have a mother who understood 421 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:19,000 her, her lot in life and her this is possibly a level. 422 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,840 So we're trying as far as Nary's being an extreme person as well, 423 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:25,640 while she was extremely pious and and all that. 424 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,040 So maybe not as extreme a personality as Aegon and Eamon 425 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,360 with their like ultra, you know, ultra corrupt and ultra martial, 426 00:20:32,360 --> 00:20:35,360 like noble knighthood guy. Yeah, this, this, this situation 427 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:36,720 just created a lot of extreme people. 428 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,400 I'm not a psychiatrist. Of course you can't take these 429 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,640 things as, you know, the the the ramblings of someone who's got a 430 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,200 deep understanding of the human mind. 431 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,240 But I don't think it takes an expert to know that children 432 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,360 abandoned by their mothers and extreme tendencies go hand in 433 00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:52,840 hand, or at least children abandoned by their mothers 434 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,760 turning out kind of awkward or, or, or, you know, or bad. 435 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,680 That's just, I think everyone knows that or at least is 436 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,040 familiar with that concept. So I don't think it's a stretch 437 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,800 to say that that very likely was something going on in in their 438 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,280 lives. Now even royal children who have 439 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,840 support systems like they, you know, it's not like they're not 440 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,760 eating or they're getting education and there's people 441 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,960 around to talk to, but still, you know, it's, it's nothing. 442 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,240 There's no substitute for a mother. 443 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:19,520 And there's nothing quite like not having one. 444 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,680 There's no excusing the life of Egg on the 4th. 445 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,520 But if you want reasons, if you want to dissect this beast, then 446 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,440 here's a negative prime motivator. 447 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,480 And not just for the children, but for the father vissaries 448 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,200 too, who was likewise permanently affected by her 449 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,480 departure. Prince Vissarius had the gift of 450 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,040 charm, but he himself grew stern after his wife abandoned him and 451 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,400 their children for her native lease. 452 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:42,760 That's a quote from The One Wise and Fire. 453 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,400 Yes and Vissarius was also so only 17 when this happened so he 454 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,280 was like this for most of his life even though he was the most 455 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,120 level headed and capable Targaryen of his era. 456 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,840 Well maybe because he was the most level headed of his era. 457 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,000 He had a huge weight on his shoulders. 458 00:21:58,120 --> 00:22:01,120 He had a lot of crazy to make up for and a realm to manage 459 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:03,840 besides. Yeah, this is not a good recipe 460 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,880 for well raised children. You've got no mother, a very 461 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,720 young father who later became Hand of the King. 462 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,840 So he's very busy. And of course, you know, bears 463 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,000 mentioned that Targaryens kind of tend to be extreme in the 1st 464 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,320 place, yeah. But and so because of this, 465 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,040 Aegon, Amon and Nerys would have mostly been raised by Septas and 466 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,760 maesters and other members of court. 467 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,400 Yeah, kind of being raised by the village, but by a corrupt 468 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,400 village being raised at court doesn't sound like the best 469 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,760 environment for any child, really. 470 00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:35,080 So these extreme personalities though, Aegon, Amon and the 471 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,480 quiet but also pivotal Nerys and their father, the powerful and 472 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,160 effective but joyless Viserys, their interactions are crucial 473 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,840 to the setting. They are how the Black Fire 474 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,040 Abelians got started. Now Aegon the 5th is called 475 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,440 Aegon the Unlikely, but his predecessor and our subject 476 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,080 Aegon the 4th was perhaps just as lucky in terms of inheriting 477 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,000 the throne. I mean, there was nothing lucky 478 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,320 about it for the realm. Yeah, it's great for the story, 479 00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,640 though. It's funny that I suppose you 480 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,560 have to say that Darren the Second was just as lucky then, 481 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,000 because he's the son of that whole line. 482 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:10,200 Everyone, everyone was lucky. But at age 7 and 142, Aegon was 483 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,040 likely old enough to perceive that. 484 00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:15,280 But he was second in line to the throne behind his father and 485 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,000 king Egg on the Third, who is aged 22 but childless at this 486 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,600 point. And we're told that Egg on the 487 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,640 Third showed signs of staying that way. 488 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,120 Yeah, quote. He likewise came to dislike 489 00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:27,920 being touched, even by the hand of his beautiful queen. 490 00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:31,240 Even after she had flowered, he was long and calling her to his 491 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,480 bed. Perhaps Aegon's lust for the 492 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,760 crown developed during this time, when it may have seemed 493 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:36,960 very close. Yeah. 494 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,920 But in 143, Aegon was bumped down a spot by his cousin. 495 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,520 His uncle, the King's son, Deron, was born. 496 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,760 Aegon the Third had learned to touch his queen after Yeah. 497 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,560 That's going to get confusing again, because Aegon the Third, 498 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,160 his first born was Deron. Aegon the 4th, our subject, his 499 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,600 first born was Deron. Both those Derons became kings 500 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,440 too. So yeah, these Targaryen names 501 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,360 can really get confusing. So we're doing our best to to 502 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:04,360 keep track of who is who. But sorry if sometimes the 503 00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:06,560 Darrons and egg ONS get a little off track. 504 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:11,880 But anyway, yeah. But in so in 144 the following 505 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:16,160 year, Queen Dinera Dinera even you know, do similar to Darrons 506 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,720 gave birth to another boy Baylor. 507 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,880 There's going to be multiple Baylor's in this story as well. 508 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,240 So we we I would say we apologize for that. 509 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,960 But hey, it's George's fault. Aegon, so that with Baylor being 510 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,320 born, this is Baylor the blessed. 511 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,040 Eventually, Aegon now is fourth in line and falling. 512 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,880 Yeah, and in 145, the Targaryen baby parade continued with the 513 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,960 birth of Dana, future mother of Damon Blackfire. 514 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,600 But it was also the year in which Aegon's mother, Laura died 515 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,600 at age 30, apparently in lease, but we don't know how. 516 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,680 It was quite possibly as part of the ongoing fall of her house. 517 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,840 So if if Egon and Amon and Aries had hopes of their mother 518 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,040 returning, which seems likely that, you know, being young 519 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,720 children and all that, those hopes were dashed, that may have 520 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,880 been another trauma for them all to have lived through finding 521 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,040 out that their mother died when they're all really young still. 522 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,840 So now, by the time Aegon was, yeah, about 10 years old, he was 523 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,480 still behind three other Princess, as we said, the King's 524 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,800 two young sons, both younger than him and his own father, the 525 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,560 series, who was also still a young man himself. 526 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,640 So the crown just looked remote. We're really trying to drive 527 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,880 that point home. Additionally, King Aegon the 528 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,320 Third was only 25 or so, and Queen Dinero had born many 529 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,200 children already, showing herself really no capable of 530 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,280 more. That's at the. 531 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,040 Time. Stop there. 532 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,440 Yeah, one would think Aegon more likely to fall farther behind in 533 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,720 the line of succession, then get closer. 534 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,760 The king could easily have another son, and Aegon would be 535 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,960 behind any of the King's grandsons if Daron or Baylor 536 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,440 ever had sons of their own. Right. 537 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,840 You wouldn't have guessed, necessarily, that Daron and 538 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,920 Baylor would have no sons, but they did. 539 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,680 Apparently, though, despite this distance forth in line and 540 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,600 falling, as we said, we're told that Aegon coveted the crown. 541 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,400 He eventually got his wish through a chain of events that 542 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,320 contained odd fortune, of course, and possibly murder. 543 00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:02,520 The king and Aegon's father, the Hand, were also troubled by 544 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,440 several pretenders, literal and figurative. 545 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,240 Well, yeah, both at the same time, really. 546 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,560 These were men who claimed to be Deron the Daring, another Deron. 547 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,720 Hey, former writer of Tessarian, the Blue Queen. 548 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,200 That's a great name. Obviously that's the name of a 549 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,800 dragon if you haven't read the pitches in the Queen. 550 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,680 I had I had Tassarian as my URL on Tumblr for a while. 551 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,440 I like the name of Tassarian also. 552 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,480 It was a beautiful scene with Tassarian. 553 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,960 And yeah, it's very sad. It's very sad. 554 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,920 Anyway, the younger, so he was the younger brother, This Daron 555 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,560 the Daring was the younger brother of Aegon the Second. 556 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,400 Another Aegon Daron was killed during the Dance of the Dragons. 557 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,920 So what's going on here? Well, people were claiming to be 558 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:49,160 him, and so they were pretending to be Daron, who was a pretender 559 00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:53,160 to the throne. So that's a lot of Daron, but. 560 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,680 What with these multiple double pretenders and the King having 561 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,800 named his own first born Daron, the father of the Queen was 562 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,680 Daron Valerian. The Daronocity of the court was 563 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,400 out of control. There was much Daron. 564 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,320 Yeah, it's just it's overwhelming all the Daron. 565 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,960 So these rebellions were surely not huge problems by themselves, 566 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,120 but the implication is important. 567 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,360 Gone were the days when many rebellions that may have 568 00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:19,880 happened probably were called off, or the the conspirators 569 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,840 realized we can't rebel. There's Dragons, but at this 570 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,560 point the royal family only had small Dragons and wild Dragons. 571 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,200 Nothing fit for war, nothing particularly threatening. 572 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,320 And this is unprecedented for the Targaryen range. 573 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:37,120 So while the Brown was adapting to being dragonless, our Aegon 574 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:39,400 was growing up like the Mad King. 575 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,320 The Unworthy was promising at first, yeah. 576 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,920 We hear this quote. He had been calmly in his youth, 577 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,920 skilled with Lance and sword, a man who loved hunt and hawk and 578 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,720 dance. He was the brightest Prince at 579 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,360 court in his generation and was admired for his whip. 580 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,440 But he quite obviously could not control his urges. 581 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,640 The lust that he became notorious for ruled him as king, 582 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,760 and unsurprisingly, it ruled him long before he took the throne 583 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,800 as well. Now a lot of factors contributed 584 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,320 to naval egons gradually increasing appetites. 585 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,600 Though he coveted the crown, he was surely aware of the growing 586 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,200 distance between himself and the throne. 587 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,920 He had few responsibilities, few prospects, no office, no need to 588 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,880 work, no mother, what was likely an absent father, and all the 589 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,680 advantages that come from being born a handsome, skilled, 590 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,720 charming Prince. So everything he needed, but 591 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,080 nothing good. So he earned fame for having 592 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,360 many mistresses and bastards, and he got started early in 593 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:33,960 building that reputation. In 149, at age 14, he began an 594 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,840 affair with Lady Felina Stokeworth. 595 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,760 When they were caught two years later, she was quickly married 596 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,400 off to the Master of Arms, Lucas Lawston, and he was granted the 597 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,480 Castle of Harrenhal and thus was born house lost in. 598 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,840 Yeah, this was the Viserys's own master at arms, so it's a little 599 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,520 odd. We're not sure if Viserys had 600 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,120 land or maybe he just had a he had his own master at arms 601 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,520 because his sons were young Princess. 602 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,480 It's not really clear, but it's also not terribly important. 603 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,320 It's kind of an interesting detail, but regardless, this 604 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,880 distance that was put between him and his mistress, this would 605 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,680 be the first example of him showing that obstacles don't 606 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,920 really get in his way when when his lust is, you know, in the 607 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,120 balance. The next two years he simply 608 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,760 just began visiting Lady Fellaina over at Harrenhal and 609 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,040 which, you know, it is not that far away. 610 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,320 So he probably went kind of often. 611 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,920 Yeah, they probably should have sent her somewhere more distant. 612 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,080 Yeah, like the Riverlands is like, that's just so close. 613 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,880 Yeah, she's sending it north or Dorn or something like that. 614 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,640 Yeah. It's not just a week or two, 615 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:32,920 right. Weeks right away I. 616 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,280 Couldn't have sent it to Dorn yet. 617 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:39,800 That's true. So by extension as well, Lord 618 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,920 Lucas son Manfred, who is Lord of Harrenhal during the first 619 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,600 Blackfyre Rebellion could be Aegon's son. 620 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,520 All the the children of Falena Stokeworth, their parentages is 621 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,800 very up in the air. We don't know. 622 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,040 We don't even know when this Manfred was born however. 623 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,240 So that's a kind of a thin thread, but still very 624 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,160 interesting if true. Aegon was never really 625 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,600 challenged as a youth, though important things did happen 626 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,560 around him and major events transpired throughout the realm. 627 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,240 They didn't really have much of anything to do with him. 628 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,080 Adversity existed, just not for Aegon. 629 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,960 This is in stark contrast to his father, a man who grew up a 630 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,320 hostage who spent his whole life working hard. 631 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,920 One thing Aegon and his father did have in common, not the best 632 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,800 thing to have in common, but a thing in common nonetheless, was 633 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,320 the lack of mother. Laura, of course, left as we 634 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,080 covered, while Viserys mother Aegon's grandmother, was eaten 635 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,640 by Sunfire the Golden during the Dance of the Dragons. 636 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,560 Pleasant. So the year 153 was a momentous 637 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,920 year in Targaryen history, and for Aegon himself, who is now 18 638 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,000 years old, he seemed to have slowed his visits to her and 639 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,440 all, perhaps in connection to his new state as his husband. 640 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,560 Early in the year, he married his sister Nerys, A delicate 641 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:52,000 girl still and pious, more like in personality, to her cousin 642 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,720 Reyna or Bail for the Blessed, or their mutual brother Prince 643 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,760 Amon the Dragon Knight, who was said to be the only one who 644 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,720 could make her laugh. This closeness between Amon and 645 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,760 Nares no doubt contributed to the rumors of King Darren's 646 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,080 parentage years later. Now it hardly needs saying that 647 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,720 Nares was a terrible match for the lustful corrupt egg on the 648 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,120 unworthy. Of course, at that at this point 649 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,320 he had yet to earn that nickname. 650 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,800 He was still a promising Prince at this point, so a major 651 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,840 weakness for women was something he could probably get away with. 652 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,440 That's not altogether uncommon, and it wasn't. 653 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,640 It hadn't reached the epic levels it would reach later, 654 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,800 though. Nerys was likely embarrassed by 655 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,280 Aegon's, you know, dalliances and Amon was surely angered by 656 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,320 it, as protective as he was. But it is sad, even in current 657 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,600 times, that Nerys wept at her bedding and that the brothers, 658 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,920 Aimon, Aegon quarrel during the wedding. 659 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,360 So there was some unpleasantness there as well. 660 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,840 Just after the marriage, Amon joined the Kingsguard at the 661 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,280 ripe old age of 17. The Dragon Knight earned his 662 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,000 nickname in part because of the dragon on his helm. 663 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,200 The name may have come around during this time as well. 664 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,920 Despite the poor match, Marys did bear Aegon a child on the 665 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,200 last day of 153. It was a boy, and they named him 666 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,000 Daron, of course. And obviously his cousin Daron, 667 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,480 the future young dragon, was about 10 at the time and heir to 668 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,120 the throne. So it's perhaps a little odd to 669 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,440 have all those Darons, but Daron would conquer Dorne by age 16. 670 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,320 That's the young dragon Daron, not Aegon's son. 671 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,760 And this may have and and the young dragon convinced the great 672 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,120 Lords of the realm to accept his plan to attack Dorne when he was 673 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,920 only 14. So what I'm getting at is that 674 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,760 he may have been a very impressive 10 year old, and 675 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,200 maybe Aegon, the future unworthy, decided to name his 676 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,320 son after this promising cousin of his. 677 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,360 But in any case, it's pretty weird to have a second Daron in 678 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,920 the royal family at the same time. 679 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,000 But hey, that's the Targaryens for you. 680 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,040 So he may have been named his. So Aegon may have named his son 681 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,560 after the young dragon, but he may have named him after Queen 682 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,560 Daenera, possibly a motherly figure for him, maybe because 683 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,960 she was around and she was a mother to the other Princess. 684 00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:03,600 So it's possible something like that happened, but we don't know 685 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,680 how long she lived. But she was also only six years 686 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,040 older than him, so maybe not the best motherly figure. 687 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,600 Maybe she was too young. Or maybe Aegon liked all of 688 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,560 those tales of Daron the daring who inspired so many pretenders. 689 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,320 It could have even been his his sense of humor. 690 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,680 Yeah. Gary's nearly died from the 691 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,200 pregnancy and labor and was told by Grandmaester Alford that 692 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,080 another baby might kill her, she supposedly said. 693 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,040 I have done my duty by you and given you an air. 694 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,000 I beg you, let us live henceforth as brother and 695 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,360 sister. That is what we are doing, he 696 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,040 replied. The Dragon Knight and Nares were 697 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,240 said to be inseparable, not only fanning the rumors of a 698 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,560 relationship between them, highlighting a major reason for 699 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,760 Amon to despise his brother. Aegon never ceased sleeping with 700 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,040 Nerys, despite the warnings from maesters and numerous brushes 701 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:52,960 with death. Numerous. 702 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,400 Yes, there would be more. This must have infuriated Prince 703 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,640 Amon, the Dragon Knight, who had to put up with seeing his 704 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,080 brother repeatedly endanger their sister's life merely to 705 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,800 satisfy his lust. Now the final major event of 706 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,080 153, perhaps the most important of all, was the last Targaryen 707 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,360 dragon dying. Surely Damon Blackfire would 708 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,800 never have risen against the Targaryen King with dragon. 709 00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:15,320 I mean. Unless he had his own, of 710 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,440 course. That would have been 711 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,000 interesting. Would have had to be a black 712 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,080 dragon right now. Because of this instinction, 713 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,679 King Aegon the Third became known as the Dragon Bane. 714 00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:26,440 It wasn't for lack of trying though, they were attempts to 715 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,600 have to hatch Dragons. There were no Summer Hall type 716 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,520 events that we know of, but the world of Ass and Fire does use 717 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,400 the phrase debacle and failure, so there's that. 718 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,040 Yeah, Aegon the Unworthy might have been witness to these 719 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,520 attempts, and he surely heard much of much of them, even if he 720 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,800 didn't know me. Perhaps the the gory details. 721 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,639 And this despite him being busy with his next mistress, Mary 722 00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:51,679 Meg, whom he was with for most of 155 to 159. 723 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,760 Yeah, Aegon wound up having four daughters with her, all of whom 724 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,720 his father had trained his septus. 725 00:34:57,720 --> 00:35:01,360 There are some pretty songs about Mary Meg, but her death 726 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,720 was not so pretty, no. Or Mary no. 727 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,680 Aegon had taken her from a blacksmith, who then beat her to 728 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,160 death when the Prince ended their relationship. 729 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,960 Now, halfway through that whole affair, in 157, King Egon the 730 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,280 Third died of tuberculosis, also known as consumption. 731 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,760 He had ruled for 26 years, but he was only 36 years old. 732 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,160 Wow. And with his death, his eldest 733 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,840 son inherited so. So let's move on to Part 2, the 734 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,840 conquest of Doran, reign of Darren the 1st. 735 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,800 When he first proposed to complete the conquest by 736 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,800 bringing Doran into the realm at last, his Lords reminded him 737 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,760 that, unlike the Conqueror and his sisters, he had no more 738 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,240 Dragons fit for war. Well, no more Dragons at all, 739 00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:46,200 really. That's a that quote's a little 740 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,360 funny there. To this, Daron famously 741 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,760 responded. You have a dragon, he stands 742 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,200 before you. He's the guy. 743 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,560 Had a guy, had confidence. Agon the Third's eldest son 744 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,320 became King Daron the 1st, and he set his mind succeeding where 745 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,600 his ancestor, Agon the Conqueror had failed. 746 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,160 He intended to conquer Dorn, and fast. 747 00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:09,000 He got started so quickly that it's pretty much beyond certain 748 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,640 that he had it in mind from a younger age, younger than 4P. 749 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,760 At first he he did indeed add Doran to the realm, doing 750 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,840 without Dragons what his ancestors couldn't do with it. 751 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,120 And again at age 14. The war was over by about the 752 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,320 time he was 16, but still started when he was 14. 753 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,520 And he won. It's crazy. 754 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,880 Of course, Egg on the Conqueror was 27 when he began his 755 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,240 conquest. So so this this dare on get 756 00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:35,360 started early. The conquest of Doran and the 757 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,080 life of the young dragon is surely a topic worthy of a 758 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,160 separate episode someday. Yet another as us, yet 759 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,120 advertising yet another episode during an episode. 760 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,400 Now, for now, it will suffice to understand its impact on the 761 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,880 Iron Thrones relationship with Thorn. 762 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,080 Not just the politics, but the personal relationships, the 763 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,280 attitudes that drove the major events behind the scenes, all 764 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,520 leading to the Blackfyre rebellions. 765 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,040 This is a concept you are familiar with all the same, A 766 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,920 Song of Ice and Fire slash Game of Thrones fans know this well. 767 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,400 Kingdoms can earn invasion over no more than a personal grudge. 768 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,440 Wars can be fought over the love of a woman, sibling rivalry, or 769 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,240 just the whim of a capricious ruler. 770 00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:14,240 Without the Young Dragons war with Doran, there would not have 771 00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:17,600 been Baylor's grand gestures of apology and peace which included 772 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,280 a royal marriage. Cornish influence at court was a 773 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,440 major cause of the Black Fire Rebellion. 774 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,280 It was a huge sore spot for many Westerassi who had become 775 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,920 accustomed to the Targaryen rule and or those who hate the 776 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,880 Dornish, especially the Marcher Lords who have considered the 777 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,960 Dornish enemies for Eon. As it was, Darren the first took 778 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:41,160 Sun Spear by 158 and pacified the rebel Lords by 159. 779 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,680 Considering the War One at that point, this would have involved 780 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,640 running all over Dorn in the deserts, facing guerrilla 781 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,120 tactics. Thirst, no comforts, you know, 782 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,600 military campaigning in the desert, that's just, that's just 783 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,480 rough. So Prince Aim and the dragon 784 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,520 knight unsurprisingly shined above all, save perhaps the king 785 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,840 himself. He jumped in front of a poisoned 786 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,040 arrow aimed at Deron, but survived. 787 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,720 So already he's showing the devotion and extreme bravery and 788 00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:09,240 self sacrifice that we alluded to earlier to ensure the loyalty 789 00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:12,160 of his newly conquered subjects. The young dragon took hostages 790 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,880 from the noble, some of the noble families. 791 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,480 Pretty standard practice. Now Aegon are Aegon, who we 792 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,240 assume fought in this war because of his skills and youth 793 00:38:20,240 --> 00:38:24,040 and he was around 22 at the time, was somehow allowed to be 794 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,880 in charge of the hostages when they were brought back to King's 795 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,840 Landing. So possibly this is evidence 796 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,840 that Aegon was close with the young dragon. 797 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,520 I mean they were cousins and they're both royal Princess. 798 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,080 And if he Aegon carried himself in the war, well, that would 799 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,080 certainly enamour him to dare on as well as the, you know, naming 800 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,680 his son the same name. So maybe that's why he got this 801 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,520 job. Maybe Daron was looked past his, 802 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,760 you know, in his impropriety with women and gave them gave 803 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,240 him charge of these hostages, which included several women. 804 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,840 So unsurprisingly, he developed a relationship with one of these 805 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,840 hostages. It's unclear if this this 806 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,880 particular mistress, Lady Casella Vaith, replaced Mary Meg 807 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,720 or if Aegon had already parted from her, and it gets a little 808 00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:09,960 interesting to figure this out. We can't ignore the timing of 809 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,000 the war and the fact the timeline appears to show Viserie 810 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,440 sending away Mary, Meg and her daughters while Aegon was off 811 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,200 warring with King Darren and Doran. 812 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,400 If this is true, that while Aegon was off and Doran, his 813 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,240 father, you know, sent his mistress off and put his 814 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,400 daughters with that mistress in a, you know, as Septas, you 815 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,240 know, against his knowledge or not knowing that you could have 816 00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:33,160 held a grudge for that. And this'll that'll be important 817 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,760 later on. The relationship between Aegon 818 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,720 and his father, well, they aren't very alike, so it's 819 00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:39,560 pretty important. Either way, Aegon may have made 820 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,760 himself an early enemy in House Faith as Casella was set to pine 821 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,120 for him for the rest of her life. 822 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,760 Though this may have really mattered very little in the 823 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,120 grand scheme of things, as all of Dorn would come to have many 824 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,880 reasons to dislike him and his family. 825 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,240 Of course, they had just been conquered after all, and that 826 00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:58,600 alone would sow permanent hatred for House Targaryen and some not 827 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,600 just among those taken hostage. And anyway, the traditional 828 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,040 hostage taking strategy didn't even work as the commoners 829 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,640 fueled rebellion on their own, having very little care for the 830 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,160 highborn hostages lives at King's Landing with their 831 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,160 independence in the balance. And also, in a political blunder 832 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,400 that again reminds us of the Young Wolf, the Young Dragon 833 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,600 installed a Tyrell Lord Lionel as governor of Dorn. 834 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,200 A Tyrell in charge of Dorn. Dornish men tend to hate Tyrells 835 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,480 and vice versa, so, as could easily be expected, Lord Lionel 836 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,080 did not treat his charge with care. 837 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,000 Perhaps you all remember the tale of the Lord Tyrell, who 838 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,200 tried to summon a woman by pulling on a silk sash above his 839 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,040 bedpost, only to have a bunch of scorpion fall on him and kill 840 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,520 him. Yep, stories like this this 841 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,280 would not help Dornish non relations going forward. 842 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,640 And I know what you're some of you were thinking. 843 00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:53,720 Dorn was defending itself and trying to regain independence. 844 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,040 Dropping a bunch of scorpions on someone's head. 845 00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:59,640 Really it is nothing compared to your how old country being 846 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,960 conquered. And hey, the event took place at 847 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,640 Sandstone, seat of House Corgile, whose sigil is 3 848 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,960 scorpions. It's said they used over 30 849 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,320 sigils worth of the deadly creatures to be sure. 850 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,480 He died 30 sigils worth. That's a new, great new 851 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:14,800 measurement there. So. 852 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,160 But the point is that people are hypocrites. 853 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,960 Even though the Seven Kingdoms attacked Dorn and the Dornish 854 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,840 pushed them off, people are still going to hate the Dornish 855 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,200 for fighting for their independence, even though it was 856 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,640 the West Rossi, the Northern W Rossi who provoked it all. 857 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:33,000 So despite the Dornish having, you know, a right to break free, 858 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,360 most of Westeros is not going to see it that way, especially 859 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,440 House Tyrell. The one would think with Lord 860 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,760 Tyrell's death, rebellion broke out quickly and the young dragon 861 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,760 returned to put it down again and again. 862 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,680 He showed his prowess in the field and he forced Dorn into 863 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,040 negotiating A surrender. But the surrender was a trap and 864 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,760 he was killed during the parlay. Now there's no reason to believe 865 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,960 that Aegon was there for this parlay. 866 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,360 He he know he was probably part of the first stage of the war, 867 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,840 but we don't see any evidence that he was part of the second 868 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,960 phase, the putting down the rebellion, especially because of 869 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,960 what happened to all these people who was there. 870 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,120 His brother Amon the dragon knight. 871 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,760 Amon was captured and though Aegon didn't seem to get along 872 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,680 well with Amon and he they didn't share much in common at 873 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,360 all, it doesn't mean he didn't have issues with the Dornish 874 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,280 capturing his brother. So it's hard to say because of 875 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,800 all those things, it's hard to say what he actually thought 876 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,160 about his brother being taken captive. 877 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,400 Yeah, did he? I mean, like most families take 878 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,520 it as a point of House pride that one of theirs is captive. 879 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,680 Captive of the enemy. Well, maybe he just didn't care. 880 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,920 You know, or maybe he found some kind of perverse pleasure in it. 881 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,680 Yeah, there's a lot of pretty much that's a wide open group of 882 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,720 possibilities there now. Darren's incredible record as a 883 00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:45,440 battle commander made him hero to characters like Jon Snow and 884 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,680 Robb Stark, who we said there's a lot of comparisons to. 885 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,440 And despite this ultimate failure, perhaps he was hero to 886 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,040 Aegon and or Aemon as well, despite being younger. 887 00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:56,920 This could be part of why Aegon hates the Dornish, which he 888 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,080 definitely does. And now there's a strong 889 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,680 parallel here as well. The Young Wolf, preceded long 890 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,920 ago by the young dragon, both won glory in battle while dying 891 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,600 still young through treachery. Unlike Rob, Deron had never 892 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,720 married and he ruled for only four years. 893 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,480 And like King Rob Star, King Daron had no children, so his 894 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,120 brother became King Baylor, the first later known as Baylor the 895 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,200 Blessed. Or Baylor. 896 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,640 They befuddled. Opinions vary greatly on this 897 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,320 next monarch. Part 3 Lost enough to kill a 898 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,640 king Reign of Baylor the 1st. He was a rare spirit, pure and 899 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,960 brave and innocent, untouched by all the evils of the world. 900 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,200 Is what some would say, but others would call him. 901 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:38,600 The feeblest king, whoever sat the Iron Throne. 902 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,080 Yeah, real polarizing figure, this Baylor, though, the 903 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,400 incredibly pious Baylor. The Blessed Reign is also, like 904 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,720 a lot of these other Targaryen kings, a story unto itself. 905 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,840 Like the young dragon, like Egon the third dragon Bane. 906 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,360 We'll try not to try too much. Remember what our focuses are 907 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,920 here, set up for the first Black Fire Rebellion. 908 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,680 Openly, the rebellion was about Damon Blackfyre versus Daron the 909 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,480 Second Targaryen. It was about several big 910 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,000 personalities, A deathbed proclamation, and opposing 911 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,680 ideals on what a king should be. Those are the headlines, the 912 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,160 attention grabbing details. But it was also about Dorn, the 913 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:17,480 changes in the royal family. Xenophobia, an ancient enemy not 914 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,680 just made part of the realm, but elevated above all others into 915 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,440 the royal family. The seeds for this were planted 916 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,880 during Baylor's reign and began to bear fruit just as he died. 917 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,400 So again, the Iron Thrones relationship with Dorn is 918 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,360 crucial to the setting, and Aegon's early years are a part 919 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,040 of it all, despite his own impact being minimal at this 920 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,960 stage. Take your pick of the reasons. 921 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,840 The bottom line is Aegon hated Dorn. 922 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,600 We know that for a for a fact it's it's spelled out precisely 923 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,560 in the World of Ice and Fire. It doesn't seem to be any room 924 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,400 for doubt there. As King, the impact of this 925 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,640 hatred would be huge. Of course, then and there's the 926 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,160 matter of all those bastards of his who also had their own 927 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,840 issues with Dorn or not, the most important of whom will be 928 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,160 born during Baylor's reign. And Aegon's first grandson is 929 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,840 about to show up too. But first, Baylor inherited a 930 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,600 major decision what to do about his brother King Daron's murder. 931 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,600 The Dragon Knight is in captivity. 932 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,200 Most likely both Targaryen ancestral blades are captured. 933 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,200 Hand of the King Viserys is calling for the execution of the 934 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,920 hostages. Now this may have further 935 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,960 frustrated Aegon's relationship with his father, but it's this 936 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,360 also seems far from certain. Pagan may have been disgusted 937 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,000 with the Dornish himself over the murder or simply bored of 938 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,600 Casella on his own, so he gave her up one way or the other. 939 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,240 Now we talked about how the young dragon was a hero to so 940 00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:37,040 many, but to the Dornish he was probably some sort of evil 941 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,960 military child prodigy while the land subject to the Iron Throne 942 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,720 were busy. Comparing Garen the First to 943 00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:45,440 Aegon the Conqueror, I bet the Dornish had kind of the opposite 944 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:46,440 view. They were probably thinking of 945 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,280 him more like Aegon, or rather Magor the Cruel. 946 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,120 All that with his youth and his aggressiveness and warlike 947 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,320 nature. I mean, he didn't have the 948 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,800 insanity, or maybe he did, actually, but he didn't seem to 949 00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,040 have. He certainly didn't have Megor's 950 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,160 level of insanity. And it's easy to forget that 951 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,480 Daron's invasion of Dorn broke a peace treaty that Eggman the 952 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,440 Conqueror himself signed. This treaty pledged, quote, 953 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,640 eternal peace. So as stubborn and fiercely 954 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,880 independent as the Dornish are, it, it seems likely enough that 955 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,400 Darren did a few nasty things during the war to, you know, set 956 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,920 examples to keep them in line, that, you know, you do nasty 957 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,880 enough things it keeps people from, you know, acting out. 958 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,840 And the Dornish are stubborn, and that's not going to work. 959 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,680 So it's just kind of this cycle of violence. 960 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,480 So we saw also that Darren didn't exactly seem to have a 961 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,400 delicate touch for politics by putting the Tyrell in charge 962 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,640 over the Dornish. That's one of the best examples 963 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,280 possible is like the guy like Robb Stark didn't seem to have 964 00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,600 the greatest hold on politics. Great with the commanding, but 965 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,280 you know, so the persistent peace between Dorne and the Iron 966 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,800 Throne was shattered by this completely unprovoked invasion 967 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,440 and subsequent conquest. So thousands of lost lives. 968 00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:56,680 We're talking uncountable deaths of vengeance. 969 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,920 We're talking bloody revenge sworn and passed down to future 970 00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:02,360 generations. It's it's Westeros karma. 971 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,920 So the Dornish would suspect future Targaryens of misrule Ken 972 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,200 to dare on the 1st. So picture this you've got. 973 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,920 Even when Doran was brought into the realm peaceably, you still 974 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,280 have people that are remembering the time when the Iron Throne 975 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,280 was briefly in charge of them. And what did they do with that? 976 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,280 They put a Tyrell in charge. Like all you got to do is 977 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,280 imagine some Dornish Lords thinking we really want these 978 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,400 guys in charge of us. Look how look how bad they 979 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,640 handled. It but it gets more complicated 980 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:32,440 because during the years of 161 to 171, while Aegon was 981 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,040 maintaining his busy travel heavy Playboy princeling 982 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,360 lifestyle, King Baylor was trying his best to repair the 983 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,040 relationship with Doran, making dramatic gestures while also 984 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,640 attempting to create a lasting peace through marriage. 985 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,720 And this marriage involved R Aegon's own first born Daron, 986 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,600 who became betrothed to Princess Mariah Martella. 987 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:59,240 Aegon, of course, later would try to undo Baylor's positive 988 00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:00,720 results. It's kind of a back and forth. 989 00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:03,240 You got Deron ruining the relationship, Baylor trying to 990 00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:05,760 fix it, and then later Aegon will try to ruin it again. 991 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,000 But we still have a few years before some of those things. 992 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,280 Happen, Deron. Will and then Deron will fix it 993 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,320 again, right The next Aeron. So yeah, it's just and then then 994 00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,240 Doron's part of the realm and then there, well, then there's 995 00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:16,760 the rebellions and then blah blah. 996 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,600 Basically, it's never, never peaceful between Doran and the 997 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,360 Iron Throne, even when Doran is part of the the Iron Throne, as 998 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:24,600 the Song of Ice and Fire tells you. 999 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,160 But in the meantime, we're not quite there yet. 1000 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:33,520 So in the up to that point, we still have the unworthy spending 1001 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,960 large amounts of time in of Baylor's reign in Braavos, 1002 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,280 sleeping with the Black Pearl. How do you say her name? 1003 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,880 Do you say Belagere? Otheris Belagere? 1004 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,480 Belagere. I don't know how to say her 1005 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:45,840 name. Belgere, I don't know. 1006 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,800 It's a cool name. I even though I don't know how 1007 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,000 to. Say it like either of them, 1008 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,200 maybe someone knows, Maybe we should have tried to see if 1009 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:53,480 there's any real world name similar to it. 1010 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,280 Yeah, but I say Rogare. So I like Belgare a little bit. 1011 00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,560 I don't know. I like that, Gary. 1012 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:04,600 Yeah, Italian somehow, Yeah. But Aegon was sent there as an 1013 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,400 envoy. But part of King Baylor and or 1014 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,480 Prince Prince Amon and their father Prince Viserys is 1015 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,240 thinking was to get him away from Nerys. 1016 00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:16,160 Yeah, there may have been a bit of a pattern, actually, with the 1017 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,840 timing of Nerys's pregnancies. They seem to coincide with when 1018 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,760 he doesn't have a mistress. It's it's almost like Aegon gets 1019 00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:28,840 when he doesn't have a mistress. He's like, well, my wife is the 1020 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,680 fall back plan and basically all the pregnancies seem to fall 1021 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,680 right around the time when he didn't have a mistress. 1022 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,240 That's a that's a that's a catch by Ray's Targaryen there. 1023 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,520 So it looks like he went his turned his attention back to 1024 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,560 Narius after he lost Casella Vaith when the hostages were 1025 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,640 sent back to Doran by King Baylor Nerys, however. 1026 00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:53,600 Yeah, Nerys gave birth to some twins in 161 and she was again 1027 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,040 in danger of death due to the exertions of the labor. 1028 00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:00,080 The twins themselves died. So the idea was send Egon off to 1029 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,960 Bravos so he can't be, you know, trying to sleep with his sister 1030 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,640 who really can't handle another pregnancy at this point. 1031 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,080 So it would allow her to recover without interference. 1032 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,800 And Agon, of course, as we said, is very stubborn about claiming 1033 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,400 his marriage, right? So even when his threatened his 1034 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,920 sister's life so. And, you know, it's really smart 1035 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,320 that they sent him off. As you know, as we've seen and 1036 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,680 as he's just said, he has a pattern of getting past these 1037 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,680 minor barriers in the pursuit of women. 1038 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,720 For example, despite all that time far away, he still managed 1039 00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:32,120 a few stops in between at Harrenhal to visit his former, 1040 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,680 more regular mistress, Felina Stokeworth. 1041 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,920 She was born a Stokeworth, but she was now the First Lady lost 1042 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,720 in, and this too would become important later as Felina, like 1043 00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:44,800 several of Aegon's mistresses, all mistresses, really, was 1044 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,280 ambitious. She was, yes, Felina had a child 1045 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,000 who had the official name of Jane lost in and many believed, 1046 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,280 but many believed rather that Aegon was Jane's father. 1047 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,360 So she'll appear later in this episode. 1048 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,920 But first, we have to give her a little time to grow. 1049 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,440 Up Be patient with Baby Jane. The Black Fire Rebellion was 1050 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,960 never about one particular incident or problem, as the 1051 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,240 World of Ice Fire tells us. There was no final insult, no 1052 00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:12,680 great wrong that led Damon Blackfyre to turn against Team 1053 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,720 Daron. Of the major causes of the 1054 00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:17,200 rebellion, well, we've covered the large scale relationship 1055 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,920 that drove events, mostly Dorne and the Iron Throne, but the 1056 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,960 personal relationships are probably of even greater 1057 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,200 importance. In a lot of ways they're more 1058 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,320 interesting. Aegon was said to have 9 great 1059 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,920 loves in his life, Mary's sister, wife, not one of them. 1060 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,440 They didn't get along very well as we show. 1061 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,480 As we pointed out, and this is well known, not only did they 1062 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,680 not get along, in other words, everybody knew they didn't get 1063 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,240 along. And of course that seemed the 1064 00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:40,760 approach seemed obvious to people in knowing the 1065 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:41,960 differences in their personalities. 1066 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,480 But much later when King Aegon would make use of the open 1067 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,840 secret of this open secret to fuel the rumors that he was not 1068 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,760 Darren's father. In other words, Eamonn and 1069 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,280 Narius time together was part of, you know what he used to 1070 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,320 start those rumors. So as you can see, how much that 1071 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,800 would shape it matters further down the timeline was happening 1072 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,760 before Damon Blackfyre was even born. 1073 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:07,840 And as to that, as to Damon Blackfyre, A memorable and 1074 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,160 particularly relevant feature of King Baylor's reign was the 1075 00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:15,240 relationship, or lack thereof, with his sister, wife, and their 1076 00:52:15,240 --> 00:52:18,080 other two sisters. He shunned Dana and had her 1077 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,760 cloistered with Elena and Raina in what came to be known as the 1078 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,400 Maiden Ball. He never consummated the 1079 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,000 marriage and actually had it a null. 1080 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,760 Jaime Lannister himself shares an opinion here. 1081 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,160 The realm would have been and better served if he had closed 1082 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,720 his eyes and fucked her. I know enough history to know 1083 00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:35,520 that. In an odd turn of events, 1084 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,960 Aegon's lust became part of his lucky ascent to the throne. 1085 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:44,400 The Maiden Vault in quotes air quotes was clearly not egg on 1086 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,120 the unworthy proof, another obstacle easily overmatched by 1087 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,840 his lust. Apparently only female nobility 1088 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,280 and servants were allowed in the place, but as Judge Ober and 1089 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,600 Martel told the accused Tyrion Lannister. 1090 00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,040 Princess are permitted to go where they will, or so I told 1091 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,560 your guards. John would not have been have 1092 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,400 any trouble getting past the maiden vault guards either. 1093 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,840 I'm thinking even if they wore the white cloak. 1094 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,160 Or it could have been other way around. 1095 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,040 Dana is said to have escaped the main vault at least three times. 1096 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,560 Maybe she found Aegon. Yeah, maybe she's looked. 1097 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,360 He was good looking. It's true she he was for a time. 1098 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,720 Maybe that's why Dana was not named as one of the 9 loves of 1099 00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:25,880 his life either. She got disgusted with him when 1100 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,280 we started to, well, become disgusting. 1101 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,760 Yeah, she was. She liked Deron the 1st and his 1102 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,360 martial nature. Kind of the opposite, right? 1103 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,960 Regardless though, the irony here is pretty amazing. 1104 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,760 The Maiden Vault was supposed to keep these women from causing 1105 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,120 sinful thoughts by keeping them out of sight and to keep men 1106 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,040 from having access to them, and instead it created Damon 1107 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,160 Blackfire. The egg on the maiden vault was 1108 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,920 no barrier. It's more like, hey, here is a 1109 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,720 place where there are a lot of beautiful women who never get 1110 00:53:53,720 --> 00:53:57,920 male attention or even company, and hey, they can't leave or 1111 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,680 keep me out. Also, I'm a I'm a charming, 1112 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,040 handsome Targaryen Prince. You sure are. 1113 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:09,080 He had an affair with Dana and this maiden in the maiden vault 1114 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:13,240 developed signs of a very unmaidenly pregnancy. 1115 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,080 Just like that, Damon Black Fire was conceived. 1116 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:17,720 Well, it wasn't just like that. It just a little. 1117 00:54:17,720 --> 00:54:19,640 It probably took a little time. A couple minutes. 1118 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,120 Damon gained everlasting fame, but his mother, Dana, wasn't 1119 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,880 exactly a nobody. She became known as Dana the 1120 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,920 Defiant, and she earned her nickname by refusing to tell 1121 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,480 King Baylor or anyone that Aegon was the father, though it was 1122 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,320 apparently suspected. Yeah, the truth would come out 1123 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,160 eventually, but in the immediate, in the immediate 1124 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,360 short term, nobody knew who the Father was. 1125 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,480 And Baylor the Blessed, always looking for an opportunity to 1126 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:50,480 show godliness through masochism, was inspired to a 41 1127 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:55,160 day fast at the birth of Damon. Damon Waters before he This is 1128 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:56,680 before he got the name Damon Blackfire. 1129 00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:01,200 And this 41 day fast killed him. Shockingly, you don't eat for 41 1130 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,280 days and you die. Well, how about? 1131 00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,080 That, I guess Jamie was right. If Baylor had just consummated 1132 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,800 his marriage, there never would have been a Damon Blackfire. 1133 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,560 Agon, as unworthy as he was, is not so likely to try to sleep 1134 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,720 with the actual queen. That's what we mean by saying if 1135 00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:18,120 he had, if Baylor had consummated his marriage, it's a 1136 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:22,840 good chance Aegon might have been able to control himself and 1137 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,360 not try to sleep with the actual queen. 1138 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,360 Because that's not just a scandal, that's treason. 1139 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,120 It didn't stop him from accusing his honorable brother, the 1140 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,800 Dragon Knight, of that exact crime later, however. 1141 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:36,000 Of course, of course, referring to him accusing his brother of 1142 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:40,680 of fathering Jaron the Second rather than Aegon himself. 1143 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,440 Now, around the same time, probably a few months before 1144 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,480 Damon was born, Aegon, who was only about 36 himself at the 1145 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:52,040 time, saw the birth of his first grandchild, a boy who would one 1146 00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,920 day play a key role in defeating Damon Blackfyre's army. 1147 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,680 So obviously he's a big part of the story as well. 1148 00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:01,480 He was known as Bail or a confusing yes, and he was named 1149 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,600 for the his pious great uncle who hadn't quite died yet and 1150 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,360 was later known as Baylor Breakspear very. 1151 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,600 He was a probably would have been a much better king than 1152 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,280 Baylor the Blessed or any of these guys really. 1153 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,000 But. Though nothing like the stir 1154 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,440 around the stir around Damon Waters a. 1155 00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,480 Little pun there, yeah. Young Baylor's birth would was 1156 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,040 controversial too, though it was obvious that the King would have 1157 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,040 no children. So it was only a matter of time 1158 00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,320 before our Aegon became King and young Baylor would be in line to 1159 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,080 inherit, throwing himself down the line. 1160 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,760 The problem was that young Baylor break spear didn't look 1161 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,000 like a Targaryen. He looked Dornish. 1162 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,080 And that was problem especially for people who don't like 1163 00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,760 Dornish people. Now they're like, are we really 1164 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,520 going to be ruled by this guy? That's sad because Baylor was an 1165 00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,200 amazing person, but most notably the thing about the thing about 1166 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,760 Baylor that looked non Targaryen or did look Dornish was his 1167 00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,160 hair. He didn't have the silver gold 1168 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,640 hair of Targaryens, he had just regular dark hair. 1169 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,640 Yeah, he looked like his mother, that more than his father, And 1170 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,520 this confirmed what many around the realm had feared for a 1171 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,840 while, and he instilled new fear and perhaps loathing in those 1172 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,960 who hadn't. There was now a Direct Line to 1173 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,080 the Iron Throne for Adornish men as Baylor Brakespeare. 1174 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,120 Brakespeare was seen by many. Right. 1175 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,680 He's half Targaryen, but he looks Dornish, and that's just 1176 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,320 how people think. Yeah. 1177 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,520 So that's just, you know, people would think of him as Dornish 1178 00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,720 just because of how he looks, even though that's just kind of 1179 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,160 silly. But that's how it works. 1180 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,400 We don't make the rules. Yeah, it's like in it's like in 1181 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,640 real, real world mixed children, some of them are. 1182 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,920 Some of them they look whiter, some of them look blacker. 1183 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,960 And they they're seen very differently because. 1184 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:37,840 Of that, that's very true. And it just, yeah, really, 1185 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,040 really, it's amazing how much in the real world, just how you 1186 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,440 look can impact your, your, your life and your future. 1187 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,280 And certainly George has captured that well that that 1188 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,280 aspect of reality very well here in this part of the story. 1189 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,520 And it's going to be a rub going forward. 1190 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,080 You'll see how important this is that the whole Dornish influence 1191 00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,640 court is. So many people just really hated 1192 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,560 that. In the meantime, however, 1193 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:06,400 though, fasting seems to be the blame for bail or the bless his 1194 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,400 death. I mean 41 days without eating 1195 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,200 seems like that would kill you. One day without eating. 1196 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:17,760 And there are whispers that he was poisoned. 1197 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,400 Despite the kind of straightforward sounding manner 1198 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,840 of his death, The World of Ice and Fire mentions a specific 1199 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,400 source among several as well as multiple possible motives for 1200 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,760 this murder. Malicious rumors that followed 1201 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,400 in the wake of the series's ascension, begun some say by the 1202 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,320 pen of Lady Mayas, of how Stokeworth suggested that the 1203 00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:41,000 series poisoned the king in order to finally gain the throne 1204 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,800 after a decade and more of waiting. 1205 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,640 Now the name how? Stokeworth in this context 1206 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,240 really jumps out because it Viserys, who was probably hand 1207 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,560 at this point or at the point I'm about to describe, was the 1208 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,800 one who created house lost in from the from his master at arms 1209 00:58:55,800 --> 00:59:00,120 and Felina Stokeworth Stokeworth that's Aegon's first mistress. 1210 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,760 So recall as well that Aegon continued to visit Felina even 1211 00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,160 after he became married and moved on to other mistresses. 1212 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,720 So they they were on good terms still, probably because Aegon 1213 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,240 still very lustful and Felina was still very ambitious. 1214 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,600 So thinking conspiratorial are conspiratorially if is that a 1215 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,720 real word? The rumors about King Viserys 1216 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:24,080 and poison it seems may have been spread as part of a plot of 1217 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:25,840 some kind. And you can see where it all 1218 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,440 came from because of the Stokeworth Aegon connection. 1219 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,920 And we talked about how Aegon didn't like his father. 1220 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,400 Can see it in this quote. Others have suggested that 1221 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,920 Viserys poisoned Baylor for the good of the realm since the 1222 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,600 Septon King had come to believe that the Seven called on him to 1223 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,960 convert all the unbeliever unbelievers in his realm. 1224 00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,680 This would have led to a war with the North and the Iron 1225 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,640 Islands that would have caused great turmoil. 1226 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:53,840 So is this extra motivation an invention to further incriminate 1227 00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,160 Viserys, or was it a legitimate possibility? 1228 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,160 I mean, a war like that, if Baylor really had declared the 1229 00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,160 that the North and the Iron Islands had to take the Seven. 1230 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,080 He might have been the worst king. 1231 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,360 Then then yeah, that's true. That may have nominated him. 1232 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,360 So if if so, that with that in mind, it actually does make 1233 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,760 sense that someone could, you know, decide to kill him just to 1234 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,160 avoid that kind of debacle. But we of course, can't know for 1235 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,560 sure. Now, eventually, Aegon himself 1236 01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,560 would be accused of poisoning his father of a series to get 1237 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,000 the throne. So we have the series being 1238 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:30,160 named as a possible poisoner of Baylor and then Aegon possibly 1239 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,560 poisoning the series. But I I think there might be 1240 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,160 another way to look at it. It with the rumors about 1241 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,720 Viserius poisoning Baylor have some merit. 1242 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,160 Viserius was his hand for 10 years. 1243 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:41,080 I don't, I don't know if that fits. 1244 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:45,480 But Aegon himself wants to get to the throne, which we know he 1245 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,640 did. You know, maybe he just decided 1246 01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,520 to kill his way to the throne, murder his own father, murder 1247 01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,280 Baylor. What better, and what better way 1248 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,720 to hide his own complicity in Baylor's murder than by casting 1249 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,840 the blame on his father? And if, if this is the case, it 1250 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,320 really worked, the series is not remembered fondly despite being 1251 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,200 such an effective hand. This poisoning rumor seems to be 1252 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:09,800 a big part of why. Yeah, we have another 1253 01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,360 conversation between Tyrion and Oberon that gives us shed some 1254 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,160 light on it, the Prince laughed. The series hardly reigned a 1255 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,400 fortnight. He reigned more than a year, 1256 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,400 said Tyrion. Oberon gave a shrug. 1257 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,160 A year or a fortnight? What does it matter? 1258 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,360 He poisoned his own nephew to gain the throne and then did 1259 01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,320 nothing once he had it. So it seems that Tyrion's is the 1260 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,440 scholar's opinion, while Oberon's is the popular one. 1261 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,400 The series He was permanently scandalized, whatever the truth 1262 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,560 may be. Yeah, after all, after all that, 1263 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,400 you may, some of you may have a burning question in your mind. 1264 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:42,280 Wait a SEC, guys. How could Baylor have been 1265 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,640 poisoned if he was fasting? How do you poison food that 1266 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:49,120 isn't being eaten? Well, technically, Baylor was 1267 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,560 eating a little bit of bread, apparently, and he was 1268 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:55,560 definitely drinking water. And hey, guys, we're aware. 1269 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,760 And you're aware that there are poisons in the world of A Song 1270 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,040 of Ice and Fire that have no flavor. 1271 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,680 So yeah, it's definitely possible. 1272 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,680 Murdered or not, Baylor the Blessed was a controversial 1273 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:11,200 figure, though Baylor could not have heirs, having taken 1274 01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,440 Septon's vows. He was young 27 when he died. 1275 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,360 He was younger than Aegon, don't forget. 1276 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,720 Yeah, Aegon probably didn't like what? 1277 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,600 That Baylor had married his only legitimate son to the Dornish, 1278 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:25,040 whom again, he hated, and that may have been done without his 1279 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,360 knowledge as well. When Baylor did his long walk 1280 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,440 through the desert to Sunspier, when he got to Sunspier, he 1281 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,560 arranged, he negotiated the marriage of Mariah Martel to 1282 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:38,240 Aegon's son Daron. Aegon may have been off in 1283 01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,880 Bravos or back to King's Land, and he certainly wasn't taking 1284 01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,160 the walk with Baylor. So yet another thing for him to 1285 01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,000 either have a, you know, another grievance for him against either 1286 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,440 his uncle or his his uncle, his cousin or his father. 1287 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,080 That all it all fits together pretty nicely. 1288 01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:55,320 Now on the other hand, it's no question that the future King 1289 01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,880 Deron the Second approved of his Dornish wife Mariah Martel, and 1290 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,760 together they at least supported Baylor's peaceful policies 1291 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,280 towards Dorn openly. It was said that Baylor arranged 1292 01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,720 the marriage, though possibly his more capable uncle handed 1293 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,080 the king to Sirius was responsible. 1294 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,920 And if that's the case, then again, another reason for Akon 1295 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:15,000 to be mad at his father. Regardless, Daron would continue 1296 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,000 Baylor's policies of bringing Doran into the realm via 1297 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,200 peaceful means, and we can safely assume that Mariah, a 1298 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,960 Princess of Sun Spear, preferred the same to war. 1299 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,080 You can tell what side I'm on in the matter, going all the way. 1300 01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,360 I of course I'm wearing a. Greyjoy. 1301 01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,720 Greyjoy shirt which really isn't relevant at all. 1302 01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,000 Not relevant and my Greyjoy mug. I'm just all Greyjoy. 1303 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,760 That's relevant. You would not have liked Baylor 1304 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,400 if Baylor had tried to to convert that's. 1305 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:45,080 True I'm I'm drown God forever. But at this time, however, Daron 1306 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,600 and Mariah didn't really have a lot of clout themselves. 1307 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,200 They lacked lands and armies, you know, et cetera. 1308 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,280 They knew they might get their chance to continue Baylor's work 1309 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,640 someday, however. Because yeah, they hoped, and 1310 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,000 they had a good reason to think so. 1311 01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:01,000 Because even though Baylor was now dead, that meant means that 1312 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,800 our Agon is now heir to the throne, meaning that Daron and 1313 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:08,360 his wife were only one step behind Part four, one step from 1314 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,640 the crown, the reign of Viserys the Second. 1315 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,880 Baylor starved himself to death fasting, said Tyrion. 1316 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,520 His uncle served him loyally, his Hand as he had served the 1317 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,400 young dragon before him. The series might only have 1318 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:25,880 reigned a year, but he ruled for 15 while Darren Lord and Baylor 1319 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:27,440 prayed. That's right. 1320 01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:30,280 That's why Viserys get such a It's so unfair for Viserys to 1321 01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:31,520 get such a bad rap. He was. 1322 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:35,600 He was, he, he kept the realm of, of together during the 1323 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,520 craziness of Darren's assault on Dorne and Baylor's just general 1324 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,400 craziness. But everyone just remembers him 1325 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,600 for supposedly poisoning the crazy Septon king. 1326 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,960 So Aegon bore witness to the ascent of his own father Viserys 1327 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:49,720 Hand for the previous 3 kings and now King Viserys the second 1328 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,400 sitter. All that all those things that 1329 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,600 that Viserys had to work, all the things he had to, you know, 1330 01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,120 cover for and all those craziness he had to make up for 1331 01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,640 the lack of political skills with Darren. 1332 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,320 The 1st and and and really stands out. 1333 01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,480 Man, then he had to deal with the well meaning but clearly 1334 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,880 reality challenge Baylor the first, who didn't understand 1335 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,720 basic human needs like, say, food, and who told The Citadel 1336 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,480 to replace all the messenger Ravens with doves. 1337 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,680 He was pretty great for keeping the peace, but he also did 1338 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:20,280 completely nuts, so things like that. 1339 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:21,920 And maybe not so great for keeping the peace if he was 1340 01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,680 about to, you know, cause a big religious war. 1341 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,280 But again, we don't know if that was actually true. 1342 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,840 The old saying the king eats the hand takes the shit. 1343 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,240 Indeed. The series was on the Privy 1344 01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:35,360 quite often, and for a long time now he had a chance to rule 1345 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:38,800 instead of, you know, being the guy who had to sit on the 1346 01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,880 toilet. It's said that he had the 1347 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,400 potential to be another Jairus conciliator, which is an 1348 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,440 interesting thing to say about a guy that so many people 1349 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:49,640 remembered so badly. If only though, in another year 1350 01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,280 or so if Vassaris 2 would be dead of what was called a sudden 1351 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,840 illness, so we will never know what kind of king he really did. 1352 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,400 Much later, it was whispered that the son may have had 1353 01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,080 something to do with the death of the father, and it seems not 1354 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,560 unlikely since Aegon was said to desire the crown as a boy. 1355 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,440 He seems to have had motive, and because his father forcefully 1356 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,240 ended so many of his affairs, perhaps he had sufficient 1357 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,040 resentment too. Yeah, again recap some of the 1358 01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:16,120 the reasons that Aegon had to be upset again. 1359 01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:19,320 Vassaris sent away his mistress, Mary Meg married off Lady Felina 1360 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,680 sent his daughters with Mary Meg to the face. 1361 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,720 There may have been admonitions. We got to figure that Aegon 1362 01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,280 being the kind of guy he was and Viserys being this hard working 1363 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:29,640 kind of keep everything together, you know, straight 1364 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,080 edge kind of guy. I got to feel, I got to think 1365 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:36,040 that he probably had some words for his his son being like, hey, 1366 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:40,000 straighten up and fly right, You know, stop being such a, you 1367 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,520 know, sleeping around drinking corrupt guy. 1368 01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,880 I'm sure he was had some words for him. 1369 01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:46,320 It's like the whores are extinct. 1370 01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:51,200 So basically, he may have even shamed him. 1371 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,480 He may have Viserys may have done things to, you know, 1372 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,680 embarrass him and to try, you know, try different things. 1373 01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,120 You know, like Tywin Lannister's. 1374 01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,200 He requires a sharp lesson. You know, it may have been 1375 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,360 Viserys may have done some things like that for Aegon. 1376 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,800 Who knows? Now, it may have been, again, it 1377 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:09,080 may have been Baylor, but Aegon's father probably had a 1378 01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:13,200 lot to do with the marriage of Deron to Princess Mariah. 1379 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,280 So again, this is a long list of things for Aegon to be upset 1380 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,520 about, plus several between the lines that we probably aren't 1381 01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:22,400 aware of because it's not like these characters lives are fully 1382 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,560 detailed year to year. There's a lot in between the 1383 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:25,840 lines and a lot we just don't know. 1384 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,040 But we can make a lot of really educated guesses because we know 1385 01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:29,920 so much about their personalities and and things 1386 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:30,840 like that. Yeah, Aegon. 1387 01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,200 Pretty much, definitely would have hated the fact that he had. 1388 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,560 If his father had something to do with marrying his son to the 1389 01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:40,120 Dornish would hate it. I mean Aegon probably fought in 1390 01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,800 the Young Dragons war and he may have hated the Dornish for their 1391 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,440 violation of the peace banner and slaying of the outstanding 1392 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,640 young dragon. And though he showed very little 1393 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:53,440 regard for his brother Eamon in public, he may have also held a 1394 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,800 grudge against Dorn or at least House while for leaving him in 1395 01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:00,240 that cage over a pit of Vipers. I mean, he wouldn't be the first 1396 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,480 brother to show contempt and protectiveness at the same time. 1397 01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,240 Yeah, he's my brother, only I get to beat him up. 1398 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,040 Yeah. That kind of. 1399 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,960 Thing plus as Crown Prince Aegon may have had more restrictions 1400 01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,520 placed on him. It just would make sense. 1401 01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,080 Of course they're going to put more restrictions on him. 1402 01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:17,120 He's the heir to the throne, he would have had more expectations 1403 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:21,359 from his father, and a man so easily controlled by his lust 1404 01:08:21,359 --> 01:08:26,479 would have a lot of motivation to get rid of anything that that 1405 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,760 inhibited his ability to save them. 1406 01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,200 Anything between him and his lust. 1407 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:31,760 Just. Get it out of the way. 1408 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:36,319 Yeah, and his father would would probably, if not almost 1409 01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:38,240 definitely the main obstacle there. 1410 01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:42,120 So motivation for him murdering his father is there is that 1411 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,319 we've we've shown a lie that he had motivation for murdering 1412 01:08:44,319 --> 01:08:46,479 Baylor and he certainly has motivation for murdering Viserys 1413 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:48,040 as well. And he certainly had the 1414 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:49,960 ambition for it. So but there were even other 1415 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,359 things again for him to be upset about. 1416 01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:54,800 Again, there's the the the issue with the Black Pearl, his 1417 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,840 relationship with the Black Pearl, which ended right around 1418 01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:03,439 this time around 17171 So holding to our pattern of when 1419 01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,760 he loses A mistress, he tends his turns his attention back to 1420 01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:10,319 his his wife, his sister wife. Well, keeps going here. 1421 01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:13,439 Nares became pregnant at some point around this time. 1422 01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,479 He had again, he had been sent away to keep him away from her. 1423 01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:21,200 And he may have been thinking at this point, oh, I got her 1424 01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,279 pregnant again. Are they going to send me away 1425 01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:26,399 again after she gives birth? Better do something about that. 1426 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,399 But most of all, there is just his lust for the crown, which is 1427 01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:32,840 mentioned straightforwardly in the role of ice and fire. 1428 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,279 And the motive absolutely exists. 100% yeah. 1429 01:09:36,399 --> 01:09:40,000 But on the other hand, since the series, the second had all the 1430 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:44,680 makings of a strong and capable king, and Aegon had all the 1431 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,960 makings of a man easy to manipulate, or at least a less 1432 01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,520 restrictive and authoritative king. 1433 01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:53,000 A third party could easily have motivation as well. 1434 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,920 Motive to get the strong king out of the way so as to 1435 01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,920 manipulate the corruptible 1. History is full of real world. 1436 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:00,120 History is full of such examples. 1437 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,720 Song of Ice and Fire History also has some examples like that 1438 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,640 it it's a common thing for some people. 1439 01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:07,800 Most people prefer to have the strong king ruling because 1440 01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,600 that's great for everybody. But those there's always those 1441 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,680 few really dangerous, ambitious people working behind the scenes 1442 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,480 who would rather blow up the world to benefit themselves. 1443 01:10:15,480 --> 01:10:17,400 They don't care about the consequences and. 1444 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,680 Possibly a little like Arvaris. Yes, very. 1445 01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:24,520 That's a very good comparison. So one can easily see why 1446 01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,640 Viserys would be a target with Aegon waiting in the wings if 1447 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,680 not from Aegon himself. There are a lot of other people 1448 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,280 that would say, man, if we had that crappy, you know, 1449 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,320 overeating, corrupt king, all you need to give, all you need 1450 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:37,760 to get what you want out of that guy is to give him a Pretty 1451 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,400 Woman. A lot of people would want to 1452 01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,720 take advantage of that instead of this capable, effective, 1453 01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,920 authoritative ruler who is not going, who's a no nonsense kind 1454 01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,640 of guy. Could easily see why that guy 1455 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,320 would want to be taken out so that people could, you know, 1456 01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,960 work their, you know, sink their claws into this puppet king of 1457 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,880 sorts. But on the other hand, Visarius 1458 01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,920 was said to die of illness. And it could have just been that 1459 01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:01,840 really could have happened. He was just over 50, so it's not 1460 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:06,000 like he was a young man perhaps. That that's what most of the 1461 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,520 characters in A Song of Ice and Fire think happened to John 1462 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:11,200 Aaron. We readers know better, but most 1463 01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:12,360 of the story don't even question. 1464 01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,040 It yeah, like, like a few characters that know that he was 1465 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:16,240 poisoned. Almost everyone thinks, oh, he 1466 01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,480 just died of a sudden illness. The vicarious died of a sudden 1467 01:11:19,480 --> 01:11:21,680 illness too, of a stomach cramp, same thing. 1468 01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,680 So it's very possible. Now with vicarious death, we 1469 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:30,040 move on to part 5, The father of turmoil, the reign of Egon the 1470 01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,680 4th himself. Quote for his, for the for the 1471 01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,600 small folk. His reign might have been a 1472 01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,520 source of gossip and amusement to the Lords of the realm who 1473 01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,480 did not stay at court and who did not wish to have Egon make 1474 01:11:40,480 --> 01:11:43,400 free with their daughters. He might have seemed strong and 1475 01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:47,080 decisive, frivolous but largely harmless, but to those who dared 1476 01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:51,160 enter his circle he was too mere curial, too greedy and too cruel 1477 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:54,080 to be anything but dangerous. And this perception would linger 1478 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,240 beyond his reign. If Westeros knew the awful truth 1479 01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:00,280 of King Aegon the 4th, they might be a little less likely to 1480 01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:04,400 decide with the Black Dragon. One of the main arguments goes 1481 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,760 something like this quote. Damon was the better man. 1482 01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,840 The old king saw it too. He gave the sword to Damon 1483 01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,920 Blackfire, the sword of Aegon the Conqueror, the blade that 1484 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:16,920 every Targaryen king had wielded since the Conquest. 1485 01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:21,160 And so the obvious counter argument to that is it's really 1486 01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,200 hard to call black fires bestowal significant when 1487 01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,520 Aegon's decision making was so questionable. 1488 01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,680 It's like saying, Oh yeah, well the worst Targaryen king of all 1489 01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,360 agrees with me. So there, it's not a very good 1490 01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:37,160 argument, is it? In any case, Aegon ascended the 1491 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:41,560 Iron Throne in 172, becoming King Aegon the 4th and donning 1492 01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:45,600 the crown he had coveted for some time. 4 kings died during 1493 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,280 his life, and it's responsible that he, or it's possible 1494 01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:51,560 rather, that he was responsible for two of those deaths, perhaps 1495 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,000 two, one or zero. Anywhere between there he wasted 1496 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,120 no time in earning his nickname, The Unworthy. 1497 01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,400 I mean, he really put in a lot of that effort before he became 1498 01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,400 king. In the same year of his 1499 01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:05,080 ascension, he continued his role as the true father of the Black 1500 01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:08,240 Fire Rebellion by adding two more players to the sporting 1501 01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,560 cast. First he added the true born 1502 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,880 Daenerys, the same Daenerys who would marry the Prince of Doran 1503 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:17,000 and one day allow children of all social classes to play 1504 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,520 together in her water gardens. Now this is the same Daenerys 1505 01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:24,400 who would supposedly win Damon Blackfyre's heart and be named 1506 01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,120 amongst the reasons for his rebellion. 1507 01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:30,400 Also born very near the same time was Agor Rivers AK, a 1508 01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:34,120 bitter steel who would be the Iron Thrones greatest enemy for 1509 01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:35,760 most of his life. No big deal. 1510 01:13:36,440 --> 01:13:39,200 And it's also interesting about these two is that they're really 1511 01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:43,040 near opposites in their symbolism. 1 Denarius is so 1512 01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,880 crucial in forming a bond of peace after war across many 1513 01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,200 generations still to this day, and the other crucial in 1514 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,320 creating war across many generations to this day. 1515 01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,880 Yep, it's pretty cool. I didn't. 1516 01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,920 It's one of those little details that I don't think is very well 1517 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:00,080 known. But when you really get into the 1518 01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,640 material and really dig at it and like it's like we've said 1519 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,000 many times, you're always rewarded for digging deep into A 1520 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:07,960 Song of Ice and Fire. There's so many good things to 1521 01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:12,640 unearth, and many more of those things will be coming in the 1522 01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,040 future episodes of this series on the Black Fire Rebellions. 1523 01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:18,120 We're very excited for that. Anyway, the mother of Agor 1524 01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:22,760 Rivers was another maiden Vault girl named Barbara Bracken. 1525 01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,920 All the girls in the Maiden Vault were set free when Baylor 1526 01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:26,880 died. Keep that in mind. 1527 01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,840 Agon named her father Lord Bracken as his hand to the king. 1528 01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,920 This would not be the only time Aegon named a Hand as a result 1529 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,120 of his mistress. It's a pattern you'll see 1530 01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,520 developing. Hand, mistress, Hand, mistress, 1531 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,240 Hand mistress is very, it's like the same fan. 1532 01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,920 It's like throughout his reign. And we're going to also see that 1533 01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:46,240 people figured out that pattern themselves. 1534 01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:51,320 This Hand, like most hands in general and many of Aegon's 1535 01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,520 mistresses, proved to be very ambitious. 1536 01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,840 Yeah, meanwhile, during this time when he's, you know, with 1537 01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:01,560 Barbara, Daenerys's birth nearly killed Queen Nerys, as most of 1538 01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,120 you know, all of her pregnancies, really. 1539 01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,120 Yeah, another pattern, yeah. Another pattern. 1540 01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:09,000 And so, while she lay dying, the ambitious Hand Lord Bracken 1541 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:12,320 began to openly suggest that Barbara become her replacement, 1542 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:14,680 the new Queen of Westeros. Uppity. 1543 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,640 Yeah, that's a. Bracken, Queen A Bracken. 1544 01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,320 Queen Well, there would be Blackwood Queens, so. 1545 01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,160 I'm a black, I'm on the Blackwood. 1546 01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:24,600 Side OK, so that's OK then, right. 1547 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,680 This seemed to make the Brackens very unpopular. 1548 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,520 Oh, shocking, right. Talking while the queen is still 1549 01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,000 alive, talking about making your daughter the new queen. 1550 01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:34,520 Really. That made you unpopular? 1551 01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,280 Shocking. So it actually had So it 1552 01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:38,960 actually had the opposite effect intended. 1553 01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,040 Yeah. Because Nerys recovered and the 1554 01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,880 Brackens grasping at the throne came back to haunt. 1555 01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,960 Them quote the King was never fond of Queen Nerys, but their 1556 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,280 brother the Dragon Knight and Prince Darren himself were 1557 01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:53,000 outraged and forced Aegon's hand in the matter after the Queen 1558 01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,480 recovered. So Barba and Agora were sent 1559 01:15:55,480 --> 01:15:57,440 back to Stonehedge, away from Cora. 1560 01:15:57,440 --> 01:16:01,160 And adding insult to injury, Barba's replacement as Aegon's 1561 01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,480 mistress was Melissa, AKA Missy Blackwood. 1562 01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,720 And we all know how Brackens feel about Blackwood. 1563 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,920 Yeah, a lot more on that situation when we get to the 1564 01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,600 bitter steel focused episode. I'm very excited about that one. 1565 01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,520 The next The King's Next Mistress, however, was said to 1566 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,640 be his favorite and as much as Barbara Bracken was was rejected 1567 01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:23,080 by the people of court, Melissa Blackwood was befriended this 1568 01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,520 even though he was she was a mistress. 1569 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,840 The three who pushed away Barba, Prince Daron, Prince Eamon, and 1570 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,120 Queen Neres. We're all said to actually love 1571 01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,800 Missy despite, you know. I can't help but wonder if, 1572 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,800 like, at first it started as out of like, a little bit of spite 1573 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,080 for Barba, and then we're like, we really do like her, you know, 1574 01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:42,920 like, that's why they were more amenable to her. 1575 01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,080 In the 1st place, it could be they may have just gotten used 1576 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:46,800 to the effects like, well, he's going to have a mistress. 1577 01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,440 This is the best you know, this is this is the best it could we 1578 01:16:50,440 --> 01:16:53,800 can we can hope for. So Missy had a daughter named 1579 01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:57,640 Mia and then another named Gwenis. 2 bastards named Mia we 1580 01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,680 know of. Yeah. 1581 01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,480 Since Agor was sent. Yeah, I guess she, I guess she 1582 01:17:02,480 --> 01:17:05,040 was Waters since Agor was sent away. 1583 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,880 Young Agon's children was Meg sent to be Septas and his 1584 01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,040 children with the Black Pearl. Apparently not even in Westeros. 1585 01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:15,240 These daughters would be the first of Agon's bastards to be 1586 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:16,880 raised at court. No, she'd be mere rivers. 1587 01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,720 Of course. Brendan Rivers. 1588 01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:22,720 So yeah, I guess, yeah, she would be Mia Rivers. 1589 01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:24,720 It's interesting, I guess. Yeah, it depends on. 1590 01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:27,560 Yeah, Interesting. I guess it's just because she's 1591 01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,440 Blair. Her home is Blackwood and you 1592 01:17:29,440 --> 01:17:30,760 know. Maybe it depends on where they 1593 01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:32,000 spent the spent a great deal of time. 1594 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:32,640 Yeah, I guess. I don't know. 1595 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:34,880 Arguably she could be a Waters, but she was a. 1596 01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:36,880 River. But Brendan River sounds good. 1597 01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,160 Yeah, it does. Brendan Waters anyways. 1598 01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:43,520 But technically Damon Blackfire was also raised at court, but 1599 01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,400 his paternity was still concealed. 1600 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:49,600 And so you know, these bastards at court does beg the question 1601 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:51,960 of what Eamon and Aries would have thought about them at 1602 01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,400 court. But since Missy was so well 1603 01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,480 loved, this may not have been a problem. 1604 01:17:56,480 --> 01:17:58,160 Yeah, it was. It was the first time. 1605 01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,440 Even though Aegon had all these bastards, these would have been 1606 01:18:00,440 --> 01:18:02,240 the first ones that would have raised at court. 1607 01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,440 So it's kind of kind of breaking new ground. 1608 01:18:04,440 --> 01:18:08,600 But like she said, Melissa being so popular and well liked, it 1609 01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:11,280 seems likely enough that her children would be given the same 1610 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,440 regard despite their who they are. 1611 01:18:13,440 --> 01:18:16,280 Like it's hard in a vacuum, you would think, Oh, these are royal 1612 01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:17,480 bastards. Of course they're hated. 1613 01:18:17,480 --> 01:18:19,680 Like you, you think of Jon Snow and Catlin, things like that. 1614 01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,960 Even nice people like Catlin have, you know, they, they have 1615 01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,480 their, their personal feelings that they can't help but so 1616 01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:30,360 Missy must have been a really, really, you know, one of those 1617 01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,720 people that just unite, you know, a real uniter, like a 1618 01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,560 real, real great person, I guess. 1619 01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,280 Just a real charismatic. Yeah. 1620 01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:41,040 So great that we can we can see these, these the personalities 1621 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:42,560 of these characters really coming out based on these 1622 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,760 details. It was around this this time as 1623 01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,320 well that Agon entertained the idea of invading Dorn. 1624 01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:49,960 Yeah, it was. It may have been personal. 1625 01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:52,480 It's directly stated in the World of Ice and Fire that he 1626 01:18:52,480 --> 01:18:54,240 hated Dorn. We've gone over that plenty of 1627 01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:57,840 times in this episode. There are some less obvious 1628 01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,000 signs for this though. He was a reasonably smart guy 1629 01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:05,160 despite how awful he was. His wit is a good example of how 1630 01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,400 we know he at least had some brain power. 1631 01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,520 You don't see a lot of witty people who are dumb. 1632 01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:12,240 That's just not. Those things don't go together. 1633 01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:15,440 So he and of course people talk about how much potential he had, 1634 01:19:15,440 --> 01:19:20,800 so clearly he had some. However, this attempt to invade 1635 01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:24,320 Dorn was just blatantly destined to fail, which is why it kind of 1636 01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,160 seems personal. It seems like no intelligent 1637 01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,160 person could have possibly thought this would work, so 1638 01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:29,680 maybe he was just worked up about it. 1639 01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:30,960 I mean, a reasonably smart person. 1640 01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:34,960 Heck, Hodor knows that you can't do what he tried to do, which 1641 01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:41,200 was haul siege engines filled with wildfire through a deserty 1642 01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:44,440 mountain pass into Doran. That's exactly what he tried to 1643 01:19:44,440 --> 01:19:45,240 do. Extreme heat. 1644 01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,480 Yeah, and the extreme heat like crazy. 1645 01:19:47,480 --> 01:19:50,160 Like that's. Yeah, but you know, with the way 1646 01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,200 the Dornish murdered his cousin, poisoned and tortured his 1647 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:56,800 brother, and poisoned another cousin, well, he had a few 1648 01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:58,600 reasons. Yeah, he had some reasons to be 1649 01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:02,520 emotionally perturbed with the Dornish, but it was also really 1650 01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:03,480 awkward. I mean his. 1651 01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:07,360 Son and heir was married to a Dornish Princess and here he is 1652 01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:11,120 invading their homeland and his grandson who had been, you know, 1653 01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:14,080 born by then we said and he may have had another by then. 1654 01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:15,400 He ended up with a bunch of grandsons. 1655 01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:20,200 Darren had four sons. The dates are a little unclear 1656 01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,680 on when all they were born but it throughout the one 70s 1657 01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,000 basically. So he had at least one, probably 1658 01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:30,600 2 by then and maybe even 3 Grant Dornish grandsons and Adornish 1659 01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,360 stepdaughter. So. 1660 01:20:32,480 --> 01:20:33,800 But he's sad. We're going to invade them 1661 01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:36,560 anyway. Oh yeah, so of course Deron 1662 01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,400 argued against his father's plans to invade his own kids 1663 01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,520 homeland. Like of course surely he 1664 01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:45,720 suggested peace and marriage like Baylor had, and like he 1665 01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:49,400 himself based his policy towards Doranon when he himself sat the 1666 01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,720 end throne. Aegon's response to his son's 1667 01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,800 objections or to intrigue against his own son's 1668 01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,680 legitimacy? He enlisted SER Morgill 1669 01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:59,600 Hastwick, which is quite an evil name. 1670 01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,200 Yeah, right. Who openly charged Queen Maries 1671 01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,680 with infidelity at court this way. 1672 01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,360 Aegon himself was not involved with in making the accusations, 1673 01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:12,280 but he simultaneously began threatening to disown Deron in 1674 01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:15,160 favor of one of his bastards. The Dragon Knight disputed the 1675 01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:18,920 claims of infidelity and he faced SER Morgill in a trial by 1676 01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,760 combat mentioned in Chapter 15 of A Game of Thrones. 1677 01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:23,800 Yeah, that early. Once again, these stories were 1678 01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:25,640 part of really part of the early narrative. 1679 01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,600 It's, it's really interesting how George clearly had all this 1680 01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,040 thought out well before he wrote The World of Ice and Flower, at 1681 01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:33,360 least most of the main details. So here's this quote. 1682 01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,520 She gazed at Joffrey worshipfully. 1683 01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:37,840 Must be Sansa, right? You know right away based on 1684 01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:38,880 that. Well, just the first one. 1685 01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:42,840 Totally an Ariel. He was so gallant, she thought, 1686 01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,320 the way he had rescued her from Sir Ellen and the Hound. 1687 01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,800 Why it was almost like the songs like the time Sirwin of the 1688 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,840 Mirror Shield saved the Princess Derisa from the giants, or 1689 01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:55,280 Prince Amon the Dragon Knight championing Queen Narius honor 1690 01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,480 against evil Sir Morgul's slanders. 1691 01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:02,040 Amon would again try to cast doubt on Darren's fraternity, 1692 01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:04,800 but he wouldn't do it again while Prince Amon the Dragon 1693 01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,760 Knight lived. Yeah, obviously Sir Morgill lost 1694 01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:11,360 that duel and was killed. And after that, considering Amon 1695 01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,360 was considered like the best fighter of his era, who would 1696 01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,600 dare face him in another trial by combat? 1697 01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,880 Even even the king would be able to convince somebody to go 1698 01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:20,720 there. So regardless though, the 1699 01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:25,200 invasion of Doran proceeded and as we said didn't go very well. 1700 01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,240 Agon built a fleet and those crazy siege engines that spewed 1701 01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,200 wildfire thanks to the pyromancers and all of those 1702 01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,120 were destroyed without ever inflicting any harm on the 1703 01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,560 Dornish. Well, several soldier, he lost 1704 01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,160 several of his own men. Some soldiers died, some, you 1705 01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,080 know, non Dornish died, but the Dornish themselves probably just 1706 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:47,240 sat home at home and laughing. So the awkwardness of the him 1707 01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:51,480 attacking his own family became just regular awkward humiliation 1708 01:22:51,480 --> 01:22:53,720 type thing for Egon. So it was a debacle of an 1709 01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:58,280 invasion and it cost many lives and made no progress, at least 1710 01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:01,160 served to end his ambitions for Dorn for good, which, as we 1711 01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:04,160 said, he didn't seem like his ambitions apart from the throne 1712 01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:06,760 seemed to be, you know, drinking, women eating. 1713 01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,120 So it didn't seem like he had much to do after that. 1714 01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,440 So he went back to having affairs and making bastards 1715 01:23:12,440 --> 01:23:13,800 stick to what you're good at. Yeah. 1716 01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:20,360 So in 175, Missy gave birth to an albino boy with red eyes and 1717 01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,320 a wine stained birthmark called Brendan Rivers. 1718 01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:25,760 And in time, he became known as blood rape. 1719 01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,840 You might call his future were robust. 1720 01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,200 Not unpacked. Yeah. 1721 01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:36,120 And in 176, there was an example of one of the most capricious 1722 01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:40,000 and arbitrary things that Aegon did, which apparently he did 1723 01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,600 things like this all the time. But this is one of the best 1724 01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,600 examples we have. And this is the treatment of 1725 01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,200 Lord Plum. Here's where he remembered that 1726 01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:52,880 a king does what he likes. So Aegon marries Lord Plum to 1727 01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:56,280 one of the other Maiden Vault girls, Elena Targaryen, sister 1728 01:23:56,280 --> 01:24:00,400 of the Young Dragon and Dana the Defiant and now Lord Ossifer 1729 01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:04,640 Plum died on his wedding day. Supposedly he died when he saw 1730 01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:07,000 Elena naked, but that may be a tale. 1731 01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:10,560 Regardless, Aegon seized the Plum fortune rather than 1732 01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:12,840 allowing it to pass to the new Lord Plum. 1733 01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,760 He likely impregnated Elena himself as well, and she claimed 1734 01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:20,080 the child was Osifers so that she could rule the Plum lands 1735 01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,280 through her new son. Brown. 1736 01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:24,400 Ben Plum himself is related to this branch. 1737 01:24:24,440 --> 01:24:26,280 There's a big problem with that story. 1738 01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,120 What's that? He drops tag when he sees her 1739 01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:30,840 naked house he impregnator. That's that's why that's where 1740 01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:34,960 the whole that you guys may remember the story of the Ben 1741 01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:38,040 Brown, Ben Plum tells the story of how his his ancestor had a 1742 01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:41,160 six foot long penis. Well, that's the reference 6 1743 01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,400 Remember 6 feet under, as people say when you're dead. 1744 01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:46,440 So in order to impregnate her, he would have to have a six foot 1745 01:24:46,440 --> 01:24:48,680 long penis that could come up from the earth, etcetera. 1746 01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,320 That's the joke. Jokes aren't better when you 1747 01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,880 explain them, but that one's a little obscure. 1748 01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:59,160 So but Aegon didn't just take it the way he also giveth 1749 01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,160 arbitrarily of course, because that's the way he that's the way 1750 01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:04,880 he ran things. So he would also make 1751 01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:06,840 extravagant gifts throughout his reign. 1752 01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,000 There are some very key examples, of course, giving 1753 01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:12,880 Blackfyre to Damon was the biggest example, but the prelude 1754 01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:17,200 to that was the next most famous gift he gave away, which was to 1755 01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,520 Lord Butterwell, who was possibly his Hand at the time. 1756 01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,520 We think Lord Butterwell was Hand after Lord Bracken. 1757 01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:26,880 It's not entirely clear. Regardless, at some point Lord 1758 01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:31,000 Butterwell was Hand and Aegon gave him a Dragon's egg. 1759 01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:36,000 As with all his hands, there was a woman involved. 3 This time 1760 01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:37,960 all the daughters of Lord Butterwell. 1761 01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,160 Yeah, a king can do what he likes, indeed. 1762 01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,800 Now there's this consistent theme that we alluded to earlier 1763 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:47,560 this this theme of ambitious types out to gain power through 1764 01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,600 Agon, the Unworthy's weaknesses and lack of interest in matters 1765 01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:55,520 of state in general. In 177 Bethany Bracken we're 1766 01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:59,000 back to the Brackens at last supplanted Melissa Blackwood as 1767 01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,160 the King's mistress. So we went Bracken mistress, 1768 01:26:01,440 --> 01:26:05,400 Blackwood, Mick mistress and back to Bracken mistress. 1769 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:10,920 But it gets even more dramatic and soap opera Y almost. 1770 01:26:11,440 --> 01:26:13,320 This is Barbara's younger sister. 1771 01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:17,760 She had been trained for this. Basically they like molded her 1772 01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:20,160 to be Aegon's next mistress. That's kind of and then think 1773 01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:24,040 about how weird that is. It's like she knew what like 1774 01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,800 Barbara had been his miss. She's like training her younger 1775 01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,680 sister. They had She probably taught her 1776 01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:32,520 a few tricks or. Something having an older sister 1777 01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:36,680 actively trying to teach you how to treat her former lover sounds 1778 01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:40,640 really surreal. So Aegon brought Bethany back to 1779 01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:43,480 court and we don't exactly know what happened to Missy. 1780 01:26:43,640 --> 01:26:47,440 There is a statue of her at Raven Tree Hall, so she didn't 1781 01:26:47,440 --> 01:26:50,960 end in disgrace. The scenario that makes a lot of 1782 01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:54,640 sense is Missy's death, or at least that Aegon sent her away 1783 01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:56,960 before finding Bethany at Stone Head. 1784 01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,680 But Bracken may have simply turned the tables on Brackwood. 1785 01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:01,560 On Blackwood Brackwood Blackwood. 1786 01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:08,120 Blacken and Brackwood. However by then the old game of 1787 01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:11,040 manipulating Aegon the 4th through mistresses had changed 1788 01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:14,200 from Barbara's day. They, they were thinking of the 1789 01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:16,680 things Barbara was able to manipulate her and, and how she 1790 01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,480 was willing to put up with whatever, I suppose. 1791 01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,640 But that was five years ago. And in that five years, well, 1792 01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:27,160 Aegon became rather gross. He was significantly overweight. 1793 01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,840 And Bethany was having a hard time, you know, suffering his 1794 01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:32,960 embraces and handling his disgustingness. 1795 01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:37,400 She couldn't necessarily keep pretending that she actually 1796 01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,400 liked it. That's the one thing they 1797 01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:40,720 couldn't train her on, I suppose. 1798 01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:43,480 But you, regardless, you don't want to do what she did. 1799 01:27:43,480 --> 01:27:46,880 You don't want to make up for the King's ugliness by, you 1800 01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,000 know, turning to handsomeness. And if you're going to, you 1801 01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:50,240 really don't want to do it this way. 1802 01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:53,720 She started an affair with one of the Kings guard, a dashing, 1803 01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,080 handsome man named Sir Terrence Toyne. 1804 01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,680 Yeah, this one is especially evocative to me of King Henry 1805 01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:01,440 the Eighth. I mean, obviously 8th and 4th is 1806 01:28:01,440 --> 01:28:04,360 like a huge parallel, but this case in particular is like 1807 01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,360 exactly like Catherine Howard. I mean, it's just like exactly, 1808 01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:09,680 although we don't know the truth. 1809 01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:11,600 Yeah, the Catherine Howard thing may not have actually happened. 1810 01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:12,640 Yeah, this one almost. This one. 1811 01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,680 This one, yeah. So in 178, not only were they 1812 01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:17,920 caught, but they were caught by the king himself. 1813 01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:19,920 He now he isn't remembered for going easy. 1814 01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:23,040 On which, by the way, is perhaps the one piece of evidence that 1815 01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:26,280 might mean that he made it all up like he's the one who caught 1816 01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:27,440 them. If it was somebody else, it 1817 01:28:27,440 --> 01:28:28,400 might be more credible. He might. 1818 01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:29,600 That's true. I'm not sure what reason he 1819 01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:31,960 would have had to to to 'cause this scandal. 1820 01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:34,320 He didn't want to be handsome Knights on his team guard. 1821 01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:36,120 I was trying to get them all out. 1822 01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,360 It's a little weird that he would start a scandal on his 1823 01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:41,000 own, like embarrassing himself. Like, I think, I think he, I 1824 01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:42,360 think. It probably it probably. 1825 01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,800 Not them, but yes. So Bethany was executed, her 1826 01:28:45,800 --> 01:28:51,560 father was executed, and Barba and Agorb seem to have just been 1827 01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:54,240 at Stonehedge and they felt none of the King's wrath. 1828 01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,880 But surely they felt the loss of these two family members, one of 1829 01:28:57,880 --> 01:28:59,800 them her father. Another thing for bitter should 1830 01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,880 be bitter about. Yeah, well, Sir, Terence Toyne 1831 01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:06,320 was tortured to death and this had a domino effect. 1832 01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,320 Because perhaps because of the torture or just the execution in 1833 01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:13,560 general, Sir Terence's brothers were bent on revenge. 1834 01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:16,120 They were not happy about this. They it was a blood debt for 1835 01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:18,280 them at some point later in Aegon's reign. 1836 01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,200 Probably sooner rather than later, though we don't know the 1837 01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:22,200 dating on this. They took their shot at 1838 01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:25,360 assassinating the king. We guess it happened within 1839 01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:27,480 about a year of Sir Terence's treason. 1840 01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:30,440 Kind of a ballpark guest there. We'd also guess that they 1841 01:29:30,440 --> 01:29:33,000 couldn't find an opportunity to attempt the assassination 1842 01:29:33,440 --> 01:29:35,040 without the Dragon Knight around. 1843 01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,160 You'd think that that's the one guy you want to see. 1844 01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:39,280 Well, when is Amon going to not be there? 1845 01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:41,080 Let's wait for when the Dragon Knight's not there. 1846 01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:42,640 Let's go for it. That's the time to do it. 1847 01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:45,480 But they didn't. They attacked while the Dragon 1848 01:29:45,480 --> 01:29:49,000 Knight was around. Amon managed to save Aegon the 1849 01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:50,920 Unworthy, but he died in doing so. 1850 01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:52,480 And. That's a statement that really 1851 01:29:52,480 --> 01:29:55,760 says it all about him. The Dragon Knight was a hero for 1852 01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:58,880 the ages, and he fell as bravely as could be expected. 1853 01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,440 Although he died as Lord Commander of the Kingsguard 1854 01:30:01,440 --> 01:30:04,760 saving the King, and as a brother saving a brother, this 1855 01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:06,800 was not a man who deserved to be saved. 1856 01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:10,040 Westeros would have been better with Prince Amon still alive and 1857 01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:14,400 King Aeon the Unworthy dead. But no, that wouldn't wouldn't 1858 01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:16,600 be as dramatic of a story if that's how it happened. 1859 01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:21,800 So as Aegon continued to get more obese and corrupt, his next 1860 01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:25,720 mistress fit the theme of escalating depravity better than 1861 01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:28,640 any other example. So recall a little Baby Jane 1862 01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:30,640 that we mentioned earlier in the episode. 1863 01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:34,920 Well, she's grown up now. You've been patient. 14 years 1864 01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:37,280 later, yes. Young Lady Jane Loston was 1865 01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:42,280 brought to court also in about 178, probably right after the 1866 01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:45,640 Bethany Bracken scandal. Jane was only 14, as Aziz said, 1867 01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:48,520 and she was said to be the daughter of Lord Lucas lost in 1868 01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:51,680 and Lady Felina, the King's first mistress, when she was 14. 1869 01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:55,480 But as we said earlier, she could have easily been Aegon's 1870 01:30:55,480 --> 01:30:57,000 own daughter. So gross. 1871 01:30:57,000 --> 01:31:00,160 So not only did he take her as mistress, he supposedly had her 1872 01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:02,520 and her mother at the same time. She got mother and daughter in 1873 01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:06,160 the same bed and he's probably father of the daughter with that 1874 01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:10,320 mother, like you said. We said that this would be like 1875 01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:12,440 the pinnacle of depravity. Well, there you go. 1876 01:31:12,440 --> 01:31:13,720 I don't. I try to beat that. 1877 01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:18,520 So as he was want to do, he made his mistress's father his hand 1878 01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:21,720 again, the same man who was master at arms for Viserys and 1879 01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:24,200 possibly the man who trained him at arms when he was young. 1880 01:31:24,440 --> 01:31:28,320 So he did have a connection to him besides this back and forth 1881 01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:31,840 mistress relationship that he had for several years for over 1882 01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:35,440 the course of so long. But soon enough he gave Jane a 1883 01:31:35,440 --> 01:31:39,400 pox and sent her, Lady Felina and Lord Lawson all back to 1884 01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:42,640 Harrenhal, stripping him of his position as hand to the king. 1885 01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:47,000 And in a pattern that just had to repeat itself one last time, 1886 01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:50,680 John Hightower became the next Hand, bringing with him the 1887 01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,760 woman who had become the most beautiful of Aegon's mistresses. 1888 01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,040 Serenade of lease. I guess he decided not to throw 1889 01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:57,120 his daughter under the puff. Yeah. 1890 01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:59,440 Or maybe he just didn't have he's like, I don't have a hot 1891 01:31:59,440 --> 01:31:59,880 daughter, right? Let. 1892 01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:01,840 Me go find. Let me go find somebody. 1893 01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:03,840 Send me the most beautiful woman you have. 1894 01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:07,120 Yeah, so. And of course, Princess Nerys, 1895 01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:10,440 with the Dragon Knight now dead, didn't have didn't have her any 1896 01:32:10,440 --> 01:32:14,200 companions anymore. Yeah, and not only did Aegon do 1897 01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:18,000 little to honor his sister and brother who died for him, he 1898 01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:21,520 began to revive the old rumors that Deron was Prince Amon's 1899 01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:25,200 son, that Amon and Nerys closeness was not the normal 1900 01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:28,480 brotherly sisterly affection, but the Targaryen kind. 1901 01:32:29,320 --> 01:32:32,120 Efforts to discredit Deron's parentage were serious. 1902 01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:35,120 Still, who would King Aegon name is heir? 1903 01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:38,560 He had no other sons and his daughter Daenerys was only 8 1904 01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:41,280 years old. Well, by 180 it must have been 1905 01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:44,840 apparent that young 10 year old Squire Damon was special. 1906 01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,680 We guess he became a Squire around his time, which is a 1907 01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:50,080 little young, but he was still unacknowledged. 1908 01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:51,680 He was still Damon Waters at this point. 1909 01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,080 Now, as the King's hard living started to catch up to him, his 1910 01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:57,800 weight became such a problem that he was barely able to walk. 1911 01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:01,280 We'll guess that Chierra Sea Star was born sometime around 1912 01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:07,280 181, possibly as early as 179, maybe as late as 183 or 4, but 1913 01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:11,040 181 seems to fit the best. She'd be the final of the Four 1914 01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:14,200 Great Bastards. So sadly, though, Serenai did 1915 01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:18,280 not survive the birth of Shierra on 182 Egg on, despite having 1916 01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:20,840 gained enough weight that he had his own gravitational pull by 1917 01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:23,600 then. Yeah, yeah, he managed to attend 1918 01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,360 a Squires tournament somehow, and it probably seemed like it 1919 01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:28,680 would be a pretty normal day. Just the Squires tournament, you 1920 01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:30,240 know? Let's just go out and watch the 1921 01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:33,480 Squires jousting, you know? Did Aegon have it planned? 1922 01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:37,240 Did he despise Deron enough that he was willing to start making 1923 01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,200 real steps towards disowning him? 1924 01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:42,360 You just don't know. Damon, 12 at this time, won the 1925 01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:45,880 tourney and got a far larger prize than anyone could have 1926 01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,920 ever, ever expected. How about first of all being 1927 01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:51,720 knighted, the youngest ever in the time of the target? 1928 01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:54,480 Sounds good. Let's throw in the news that 1929 01:33:54,480 --> 01:33:57,480 you're the King's son. His eldest male bastard, in 1930 01:33:57,480 --> 01:33:59,040 fact. Oh, not done. 1931 01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:01,480 No, not done. We'll we'll not only name you 1932 01:34:01,480 --> 01:34:04,080 the King's bastard and give you a knighthood, but we'll also 1933 01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:08,360 give you Black fire, the ancient Targaryen sword of kings made of 1934 01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,920 Valyrian steel, wielded by hang on, the Conqueror himself and 1935 01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:14,000 his father before him, forged in the fires of the Freehold. 1936 01:34:14,480 --> 01:34:17,640 Now, there was probably a time when Blackfire was a little less 1937 01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:20,320 important as a symbol, but without the Dragons around, it 1938 01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,800 was a major symbol. It became a major symbol, and it 1939 01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:25,200 was going to become more important as the people who 1940 01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,840 supported Damon Blackfire, you know, kind of pushed, kind of 1941 01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:31,600 raised its status as a symbol, propaganda, propaganda. 1942 01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:35,240 So this was a truly. So this was a truly shocking 1943 01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:36,840 gift. And the realm was like, wow. 1944 01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:38,400 Yeah. What was Aegon thinking? 1945 01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:40,880 Was it a careless gesture like the Dragon's egg? 1946 01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,800 A gifting? Or was he intentionally setting 1947 01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,040 up major conflict? It's very hard to say, but he 1948 01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:49,280 did arrange for Damon to be married, and to a powerful 1949 01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:51,160 family at that. They're not a Westerassi one. 1950 01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:54,920 Damon was betrothed to Rohan, daughter of the Archon of Tyros. 1951 01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:57,600 The actual marriage came after Aegon's death, however. 1952 01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:01,160 Now Aegon son's final two years were like a bit of a lame duck 1953 01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:05,680 or lame dragon or fat sick and nearly dead dragon period. 1954 01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:10,200 He slowly became this. His body so swollen and obese 1955 01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:12,880 that he could no longer lift himself from his couch. 1956 01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:16,720 His limbs rotting and crawling with flesh worms the maester is 1957 01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:20,400 claimed they had never seen. It's like while septons declared 1958 01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:24,080 it a judgement of the gods. Aegon was given milk of the 1959 01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:27,280 poppy to dull his pain, but elsewise little could be done 1960 01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:28,960 for him. Yeah, it sounds like that would 1961 01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:30,360 be part of why he got so little done. 1962 01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:32,280 Not just because he was so sick, but all he was constantly 1963 01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:33,520 medicated with milk of the poppy. 1964 01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:36,040 I'm not going to. Mostly just sleeping. 1965 01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:40,560 But awful king as he was, even though he wasn't capable of much 1966 01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:42,800 in the state, he still managed to do. 1967 01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:47,480 Yeah, his last act before his death, all accounts agree, was 1968 01:35:47,480 --> 01:35:51,640 to set out his will, and in it he left the bitterest poison the 1969 01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:54,720 realm ever knew. He legitimized all of his 1970 01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:58,520 natural children, from the most base born to the great bastards, 1971 01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:01,960 the sons and daughters born to him by women of noble birth. 1972 01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:05,320 Scores of his natural children had never been acknowledged. 1973 01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:08,920 Scores. Yes, Aegon's dying declaration 1974 01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:11,600 meant not to them. For his acknowledged bastards, 1975 01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:15,480 however, it meant a great deal, and for the realm, it meant 1976 01:36:15,480 --> 01:36:18,040 blood and fire for five generations. 1977 01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:19,520 It's. Like the biggest jerk move of 1978 01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:21,560 all time. Basically, he, he just had to 1979 01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:24,760 stick it to Westeros, set up the the wars that he avoided during 1980 01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:26,880 his own lifetime. What what, What could the Grand 1981 01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,520 Maester have thought to himself when he heard this decree? 1982 01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:32,360 All of them? Your Grace, your son could be 1983 01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:35,800 greatly endangered by this. Perhaps we should just send each 1984 01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:38,320 of your bastards a ham. Just don't offer bitter steal 1985 01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:40,120 any horse meat. So. 1986 01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:44,400 But why didn't he actually ever disown Deron in favor of Damon? 1987 01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:46,800 Well, he didn't want to fight a war against his own son. 1988 01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:49,040 The guy wasn't good at fighting wars. 1989 01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:53,160 We saw that even he may have realized that, but he also would 1990 01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:56,320 have known because he's not an idiot, that his son would have 1991 01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:59,120 been well supported. All the most of Dorn would have 1992 01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:02,680 supported Deron and a lot of the other houses would have simply 1993 01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:07,640 supported Deron because Agon the Fourth was so terrible and so he 1994 01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:09,320 just talked a lot. He didn't actually take these 1995 01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:12,000 actions. Possibly he was planning on more 1996 01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:14,760 war eventually but just died too soon. 1997 01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:17,320 The marriage alliance with Tyros doesn't have implications. 1998 01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:20,480 Quote. Agon saw more profit in a tie to 1999 01:37:20,480 --> 01:37:23,600 Tyros, perhaps because it's fleet would be of use if he made 2000 01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:25,040 another attempt to conquer Doran. 2001 01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:28,480 But or he might have been planning on setting aside Deron, 2002 01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:32,600 but knew he needed more support and for Damon to be grown up. 2003 01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:36,000 If he had lived another five years, he could have declared 2004 01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:38,920 Damon his heir, and that likely would have been enough to give 2005 01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:41,680 Damon the edge. I mean, he almost won the throne 2006 01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:45,320 as it was, so we've got to think that a few more houses on 2007 01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:46,960 Damon's side would have been enough. 2008 01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:49,640 Yeah, it's a close call. I can imagine in several years 2009 01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:52,960 Aegon could have been thinking, oh this, This promising young 2010 01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:55,920 knight will be grown up and the other realm will fall in love 2011 01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:57,360 with him. I can name him as my heir, 2012 01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:00,080 everyone will prefer that. But he had to wait, and in the 2013 01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,480 meantime, he died. But if that was the case, why 2014 01:38:02,480 --> 01:38:05,720 didn't Aegon's will also contain a provision disowning there on 2015 01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:07,000 the second? It did no such thing. 2016 01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:09,560 Yeah, there's a lot of questions about this. 2017 01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:13,160 And as important as it was Aegon's reign, great change did 2018 01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:16,240 not occur during it. Great change did occur because 2019 01:38:16,240 --> 01:38:19,920 of his reign, especially right there at the end, but at the 2020 01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:23,160 actual time of his death, his now legitimized bastards were 2021 01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:25,400 still young, so the damage wouldn't be felt for a while. 2022 01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:28,440 Still, the ones who shook the realm had more growing up to do 2023 01:38:28,440 --> 01:38:30,000 before they could do all that damage. 2024 01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:34,200 When Daron became King Daron the Second, he was 30 years old and 2025 01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:37,880 he had a 14 year old heir in Baylor and a 12 year old sister 2026 01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:40,920 in Daenerys. He also had three sons, Aries, 2027 01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:44,320 Regal and Makar, giving him a very stable line. 2028 01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:46,760 Now he's the subject of our next episode. 2029 01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:50,920 Daron would do his best to undo the work of his unworthy father 2030 01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:53,000 and complete the work of his uncle Balaam. 2031 01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:56,440 That's a lot of work. Surely there are tales to be 2032 01:38:56,440 --> 01:38:59,880 told of Gwenis and Mia, Brendan Rivers's elder sisters, or of 2033 01:38:59,880 --> 01:39:03,040 Valerian, the child of the black pearls that might have been 2034 01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:06,400 Aegons. He had sisters named Narha and 2035 01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:09,880 Dalnora, who took up the name of her mother to become the next 2036 01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:12,560 Black Pearl. So the line of black Pearls 2037 01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:16,040 continues even now as and Agon's blood is still present in them, 2038 01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:18,880 that the tales are true. But we don't know those tales or 2039 01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:21,600 if those characters impacted the Black Fire rebellions. 2040 01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:25,920 What we do know is that Damon Blackfyre, like Baylor, was also 2041 01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:29,840 around 14 years of age, a few months younger than you know, 2042 01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:32,520 than Baylor himself. Bitter Steel, who probably 2043 01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:34,640 didn't have that nickname yet, was around 12. 2044 01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:37,440 Little 12 year old Bitter Steel. Little baby bitter Steel 2045 01:39:37,440 --> 01:39:40,400 becoming a little teenager bloodraven. 2046 01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:42,600 Ditto to that nickname. Probably didn't have it. 2047 01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:46,560 It was nine years old, and Shera likewise was not yet the star of 2048 01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:49,680 the sea, and she was only about three to five years old. 2049 01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,480 They were no longer growing up as bastards. 2050 01:39:52,480 --> 01:39:55,200 Not legally, anyway. We will continue this story with 2051 01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:58,800 the next episode. As these bastards age up to no 2052 01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:01,920 longer bastards, born bastards, legitimized bastards. 2053 01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:05,240 As they age up to a point at which they become dangerous. 2054 01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:08,880 What will the new king dare on the second do about all these 2055 01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:12,160 legitimized trade bastards? TuneIn next time to find out. 2056 01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:16,160 Thanks for tuning in everybody. 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This episode was was discussed a 2086 01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:49,520 bit ahead of time and people took the opportunity to give us 2087 01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:51,520 feedback and suggestions for what they'd like to see in the 2088 01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:53,880 Black Fire episodes. And since there's plenty more 2089 01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:56,360 Black Fire episodes to come, there's still plenty of time for 2090 01:41:56,360 --> 01:41:59,000 you to join in the conversations on the forums and throw in your 2091 01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:00,440 two cents and make some suggestions. 2092 01:42:00,440 --> 01:42:02,960 You may even find your name mentioned on the show if you 2093 01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:04,800 give us a really good idea. Thanks again to the people that 2094 01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:08,840 helped with this episode, Rainy Targaryen again, as well as Jeff 2095 01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:12,160 Hartline and Steven Atwell, who you'll be seeing in episodes 2096 01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:16,040 later in the series, and as well as Lord Virus from the forums 2097 01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:17,760 and some other people whose names I forget. 2098 01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:20,720 We'll get you, get your mentions later, those who deserve it. 2099 01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:23,320 And I think that's all we have for today. 2100 01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:25,880 So until next time, everybody. Valar Morghulis.