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We left you hanging with Amon 
hanging over a pit of vipers. 

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In the year, 161 the same year 
King daeron. 

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The first the young dragon was 
killed and Amon captured 

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alongside him last. 
We saw he was more concerned 

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with the life of the new king 
bail or than his own but from 

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the looks of things where we 
left off, Baylor felt the same 

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way. 
A in reverse and was more than 

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willing to Brave. 
Those vipers to save the famous 

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Dragon Knight, who would be 
about age 25 at this time today,

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we discuss the remainder of 
Prince, a man's life, how he's 

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remembered what impact that has 
on those who came after. 

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In other words, his Legend, all 
the things that led to him 

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becoming a legend in the latter 
half of his life. 

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Contests with his brother 
affection for his sister and all

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the mysteries in between. 
And more on this episode of 

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history of Westeros podcast. 
Hello and welcome. 

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My friends were back with 
another one and episode that was

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so big that we had to split it 
into two. 

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It happens from time to time. 
That's a good sign. 

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When their story is so deep and 
Rich that we have that much to 

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talk about Sean. 
Welcome back. 

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What you got in the in your 
beverage Cup today, your 

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beverage Cup today, that's kind 
of a repetitive, isn't it? 

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And this is a new bang flavor. 
New to me. 

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Anyway. 
Guava pair, guava pair. 

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Well, that's yeah, very naked. 
Rather drink it out of a 

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beverage pole. 
The beverage ball. 

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Yeah, I guess you're right. 
I was thinking the, the cup part

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was repetitive, but now there's 
other types of cups to like. 

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Yeah, the ones for measuring and
Falls. 

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That's Ryan's garments. 
No man. 

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Should I should drink out of 
this goal on an episode. 

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One time wildly numbers, Yeah, 
blackmont, I guess. 

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Whack my yeah, not Prince a 
mistake. 

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Yeah. 
I don't think he would do that. 

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The guy in the Nights Watch when
I have, oh yeah. 

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Was that Carl or? 
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Carl, that's it. 
Carl. 

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Yeah, Janelle. 
And he drink from someone's 

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skull, kid, from G. 
Or is it more months? 

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Even yes. 
Yeah, silly man, that he is. 

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I love that dues acting his the 
way, his eyes. 

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Just go, so dead. 
He was good in the expanse to if

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y'all didn't see the expanse. 
That's right. 

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A chance to plug the expanse and
Always Sunny in Philadelphia. 

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That's Right? 
He was in an episode of It's 

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Always Sunny in Philadelphia the
Game of Thrones Sunny connection

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has many tentacles, hmm. 
He'd shout out to our good 

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friend, Nina, good Queen Ali, 
lots of good in there like her 

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writing, which is very good this
week on her blog, a comparison 

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of the Knight of the Laughing 
tree and the night of Tears, 

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lots of parallels and you were 
like, you might be wondering who

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the night of Tears is you almost
certainly know the Knight of the

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Laughing tree. 
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Lavender, you may not know the 
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Laughing tree because that is an
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Although we all have some 
guesses, I think, strong 

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guesses, but the night of the 
tears night of Tears, isn't 

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mystery Knight anecdote from 
today's episode. 

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So, if you do not know who the 
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be getting into it in the second
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check out Nina's blog to see why
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We'll be touching on it, briefly
today as well. 

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He's getting you started on that
idea. 

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Does the night in tears? 
Have a nemesis day, man? 

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Good night of kleenexes. 
Yeah, so night of laughter, 

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yeah, this episode was voted on 
by patrons. 

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Next week is trial by Theory. 
So Now's the Time start sending 

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us your theories favorites of 
yours. 

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Whether you came up with him or 
not, doesn't have to be your 

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original Theory, but that would 
be cool if it is, but just ones 

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that you think are worthy of 
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Keep in mind that a lot of them 
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New to Sean entirely but that's 
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Some that maybe you would want 
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of them have never weighed in 
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She has never weighed in on. 
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that but no spoilers for Hot D. 
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and Fire as far as spoilers for 
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despoilers down for a Sean 
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giving some stuff away. 
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some shirts during that episode,
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definitely for sure, it's, we're
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Little giveaway stuff, as well 
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The theory fun as always, if 
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want to stay immersed. 
We've got you covered with 

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suggestions for topics related 
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Also, at the end is the answer 
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I will read you right now who 
did Jaime Lannister described as

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half as big, but twice as mad as
the mountain that rides. 

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Yes, this person also had a 
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mountain that rides but But few 
people do have nicknamed that 

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long. 
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here, but first, I have to back 
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small error last week. 
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right before this part, so we 
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What we discussed was whether or
not Amon new bail or was on his 

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walk. 
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was on his walk because when 
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sunspear, a man was already in 
the cage, they'd already put him

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out there. 
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like, Let him go. 
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going to let him go. 
Let him go. 

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Please let him go and he, like, 
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like, just go. 
Just go go, keep doing your 

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walk. 
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come back for you though. 
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because when he came back, the 
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then the order had come to let 
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Then they had to let him go but 
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Nuri, which gets us to this 
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So the only question was whether
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happening and if they lied him, 
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all. 
He Was there which means he was 

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in that cage in the Sun for 
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otherwise in some sort of 
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time for bail or to even get 
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Right? 
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to Dorne at still would have 
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not know what was coming out of 
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It may have fun with your rice 
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Still may have been a long 
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something before, you know. 
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been like what's gonna happen 
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What's going to happen when he 
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And of course the walk back is 
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anxiety for a lot of people 
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dies at right, after this peace 
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gone. 
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the way, got to the cage and 
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had to leave last time this 
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I'm not walking away without you
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Let's see what happens bail or 
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Half a dozen times while 
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he opened it, he nearly 
collapsed before the Dragon 

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Knight was able to thrust open 
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from the pit. 
The wills are said to have laid 

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Wagers as Prince Amon, struggled
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bail or flung across his back. 
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that spurred him to climb to the
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safety Prince Amon. 
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bone way before a Stepped in in 
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Gave him clothing and an ass on 
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King. 
I'm sorry, there's some ass. 

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Yeah, you did well. 
Here's some ass. 

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That's like he had some ass. 
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It's about thinking about ass 
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watchtowers of the done darian's
and then was conducted to Black 

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Haven. 
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for the king as best as he 
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storms end for further treatment
and all the while it is said 

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Baylor, was wasting away, still 
lost to the world and all the 

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while to set of share was 
laughing away, I'm just gonna 

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still think about this. 
I just imagine likes and Rick 

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see him here drawing like an ass
would bail or just like lovingly

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nestled between his cheeks 
unconscious as it meanders 

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northwards. 
Desert. 

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Okay, we did it. 
We made it through. 

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That was, that was probably 
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Eamon get through. 
He really struggled. 

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So, it's actually some 
interesting things here, it 

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sounds like an action scene, you
know what it is, but there's 

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some interesting like character 
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One thing is just a man's 
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continue and his hardcore 
ability to maintain his stamina 

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throughout this and Of course, 
they lowers bravery as well. 

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And maybe foolishness throwing 
away, his potentially throwing 

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away the peace deal, that he 
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That somebody's lives depend on.
However, I shall speak not ill 

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of Baylor and his dedication to 
peace and bravery, and I really 

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like the way this is written. 
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cruelty that spurred him to 
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leap to say. 
Because one thing it's like, I 

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do struggle sort of to imagine 
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like how he could have done 
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and got a little momentum. 
Something to get it, moving back

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and forth and that enabled it. 
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not really important to figure 
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possible. 
I like the idea that cruelty 

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spurred him on because that's 
like his life. 

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His brother is really cruel and 
he's always under his shadow. 

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And we wonder, maybe that's just
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what's been fueling him 
throughout his life as he 

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responds to Cruelty by doing 
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leaping into action. 
In this case, pretty literally, 

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leaping by doing what's 
necessary to save the person 

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that's the target of the cruelty
and, you know, and day-to-day 

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life. 
That was his sister here. 

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It's much more dramatic and 
violent and memorable but it's a

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similar kind of energy. 
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someone that can't do anything 
about it. 

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And there are good per like a 
good person being picked on by 

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like tough strong. 
Guys were just laughing at them.

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It's like he's a conduit for 
Cosmic Karma. 

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We're villainy is the more 
heroic he needs. 

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Yeah, that's a great way to put 
it like a like a lens for 

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goodness for like you you filter
cruelty and he will flip it into

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goodness. 
Yeah, I like that. 

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That's great. 
You know. 

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Yeah, he's a crystal to repeat 
what we said last time, a little

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bit of remind ourselves rather 
that. 

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Yeah, they really did Prince of 
sunspear would not have wanted 

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anything bad to happen to bail 
or after that. 

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Especially after the marriage 
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arranged. 
Darren ironically another dare 

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on the Darren invaded them and 
then they're going to marry. 

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The second are on to fix all 
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We of course get the laughter 
and the wills doing their thing.

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We talked about the history 
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a man must have been. 
I mean that's a long walk or 

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long traversal on the ass there,
to get to this Village. 

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It couldn't have been going 
quickly. 

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Asses aren't known for their 
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He'd I don't know about that. 
He must have just been really 

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worried that any second. 
Now, the king would die and 

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you're the kingsguard, probably 
not Lord Commander yet. 

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I'm thinking this incident was 
part of what got him promoted. 

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I'm guessing the Lord Commander 
died in that Ambush. 

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I mean, there were like three of
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Another one surrendered, the one
who surrendered probably wasn't 

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Lord, Commander Eamon wasn't the
Lord Commander, that's five 

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right there. 
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kingsguard. 
The odds that the Lord Under of 

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All the King's Guard wasn't 
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Parlays pretty unlikely. 
Maybe he was stabbed in the back

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by a my so that he could move up
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massive plan. 
A good guy. 

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When I'm not, when they're not 
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back. 
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wills were where there's a, 
will, there's a way. 

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Yeah, they're just use the word 
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pun in there. 
But they're still willing to do 

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this, to take this risk, despite
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and to not harm Baylor like, 
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walked into that pit of his own 
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They're really, the lawyers are 
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If it went to court, right? 
Well, technically, we didn't, 

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you know, no one pushed him in 
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in no one, you know, it wasn't. 
So they would have their way to 

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argue that. 
They didn't do it and of course,

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they have their mountain castle.
That's not the easiest thing to 

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Punish them for things that they
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It's like Darkstar. 
Imagine how hard it in a dark 

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star win against the orders and 
perform treason. 

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But now Doran Martell is like 
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but he recognizes that it will 
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Darkstar for what he did because
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wills have a similar situation. 
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leeway to pull a fast one here, 
but they would have been totally

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fine. 
If War had started back up 

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again, because of it, because 
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they are. 
There. 

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Am Archer House war is what They
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Well, they don't like peace with
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the targaryens and keep in mind.
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fine with Warwick. 
A lot of that. 

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The average person conscripted 
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is not so fine when I'm sure 
some of them would probably 

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still be into it because they're
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loving me like this again. 
Come on. 

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I want to move. 
They can I go live somewhere 

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else? 
No actually you probably can't. 

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It's hard to move. 
I think we talked about it at 

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least a little bit. 
I think it's worth reiterating. 

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Now, what is swing? 
It is for them to Baylor is King

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versus someone else. 
I just don't like anyone else. 

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Trying to make peace almost any 
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attack you even if they don't, 
actively do it. 

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They're trying to find a way, 
right? 

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They're definitely not trying to
get peace on the borders or set 

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up trade kind of figure out if 
or when they can attack where 

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Baylor is actively specifically 
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a few War mongers, you know, 
won't care a recognize that but 

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I feel like why is there Their 
hearts wiser heads or whatever 

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should see the value in this. 
It's such a swing especially to 

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because if they were to kill him
there's just no way the next 

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person could even be passive or 
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balancer. 
The second king and like one 

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year or something like holyrood 
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borderline suicidal they would 
just have to do it so it would 

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blame him. 
Yeah, because that's because 

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this point Baylor is becoming 
popular. 

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Like the car is one of the 
commons would call for war, 

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which is ironic given Baylor 
stood for, but the Baylor place 

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to have it, he's like no. 
You guys didn't understand 

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anything. 
Penny. 

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I said damn it. 
I mean, darn it. 

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This is kind of going back to 
last week when the first 

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engagement would Dorn started, 
it would have been the first 

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real violence war that a man 
would have seen, right? 

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That guy. 
It's probably yeah, sometimes 

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glossed over specialized 
components or something, you 

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know, but yeah, but no war. 
Yeah, it may be in this world. 

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People are more used to death, 
they're more cold-hearted or 

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whatever. 
But, but anyway, I just feel 

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like They're probably would have
been a shift in am on as a 

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person having actually killed, 
someone having had friends die 

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in front of them. 
You know, the reality of war and

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violence. 
I can't detect necessarily 

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through. 
What we know that there was a 

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change in him, but I got to 
imagine there was, yeah, he's 

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just too conscientious of 
person. 

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He's not, he's not he's willing 
to do violence but he's not one 

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of those guys that like, aims 
for it wants to fight, you know,

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maybe he likes fighting back 
killing, you know, like like an 

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iron. 
Yeah enjoys sword, sword play. 

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Doesn't actually enjoy killing 
but just involves you know likes

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competition likes the joy of 
maxing out and sweating and 

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doing everything you can. 
Some people might feel, you 

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know, this obligation to protect
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protecting serving and 
protecting his different going 

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out and at warring against 
someone else, since and another 

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love, unprovoked war your the 
violence because coming from you

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would think that there may have 
been some marketing like my 

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yeah. 
Yeah like propaganda, right? 

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Like fresh wave of issues with 
door. 

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Like, you know, those doors 
people. 

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You know what I was thinking 
about was wrong with them, you 

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know? 
Just like things today to get 

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people fired up. 
Yeah, the kind of stuff you 

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would see the newspapers we 
printing. 

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If there were newspapers, 
another angle to this long, what

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you said, Sean about the 
determination and Kings dying. 

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Like this would have been the 
third if Baal or dies would have

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been Third King, the died since 
he joined the King's Guard and 

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again, he's only 25 now. 
No one's going to blame him for 

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egg on the third who died of 
tuberculosis but Darren dying. 

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It An ambush in the same realm 
in a pretty far away from where 

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the Ambush probably happened but
still it happened and it wasn't 

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that long ago. 
So while Baylor was full of 

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faith and poison a man was full 
of adrenaline and really it also

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just shows the thing about 
Baylor of will come talk about 

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him, some more dark and his own 
episode. 

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Like was he crazy because of his
walker. 

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Was he crazy already? 
Because like he really 

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apparently just believe the 
Vipers wouldn't fight him which 

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is just. 
Yeah, there's that's just nuts. 

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I mean what What's on your mind 
there, man? 

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Those are those vipers are real.
Like he thought the singers, say

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the Vipers didn't bite him at 
all, but of course, it's the 

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quote says, no, they did. 
He might have had a vision. 

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I just want to point out, we 
have to think about that, even 

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if he might even not so much. 
Believe they won't bite me, but 

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I know, I won't die to him. 
I know I'm not going to die, 

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because he had a vision myself 
doing some other things. 

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However, the bad, this might 
seem, I have to go through this 

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and I have this confidence faith
and I won't die next. 

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Super interesting in that regard
because we know Visions are a 

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thing of the targaryens and 
dreams. 

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But this is a guy who was like 
so anti like draconic stuff. 

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He was so into the seven. 
So his Visions would maybe be 

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filtered through that lens or 
yeah. 

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Yeah, but you're right. 
He fasted a lot during his Reign

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which that causes visions and 
some people and he may have that

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may have just inflamed the whole
thing in a good way or a more 

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dreamy way mean also points out 
how similar some of this is at 

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least in terms of of how 
dramatic and epic it is not 

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necessarily in terms of how it 
went down, but the rescue of 

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Aries From Dusk and Dale by 
barristan, selmy, which, you 

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know, a man who Bears the wasn't
hanging in a cage all that time 

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and but it is kind of 
unbelievable and in terms of how

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badass it was, you know, like 
wow, that's a really amazing 

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like the songs sound like it's 
exaggerating it but like Yandell

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says that the songs don't need 
to exaggerate because it's It is

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that impressive without 
embellishment you know you don't

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need to add a thing to it 
because it's are like dude 

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already scaled the walls of 
afford by himself, got into the 

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dungeon and carried the king out
on a whore like by himself. 

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Like that's incredible. 
Tougher than to hang in a cage 

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thing, right? 
Like it because even if he was 

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hanging in a cage there's still 
like everyone was like go ahead.

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If you can figure it out. 
It's more like he had to figure 

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out a riddle or something. 
Yeah, rather than like actually 

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face. 
This all the guards and walls 

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it, you know, under the threat 
of danger, the whole ways. 

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Yeah, we have an episode on desk
and also the full of very full 

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telling of it, is there this, 
this defines the desk and deal 

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with Aries and barristan, one, 
funny thing, just an anecdote 

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from that is Tywin, was going to
storm the city and there were 

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like was done with this 
negotiation and they well 

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they're just going to kill the 
king and he's like oh well Sarah

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he's like he didn't say that but
they're like we got Rengar right

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here. 
Y'all like think of the think of

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the good side here Barris is 
like let me get it give me a As 

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to go rescue him and I was like 
can't say no to this guy but 

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what are the odds he actually 
succeeds you know like Natalia. 

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Like are you kidding me? 
This dude, succeeded God, he 

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really did. 
Yeah so that might be what's 

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going here. 
The wheels are like he really 

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like we can expect a man to do 
like. 

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We thought this was going to 
fail like oh well they probably 

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stepped laughing anyway though. 
I got a hat. 

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We're how did he do that? 
They might have just literally 

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been impressed and entertained. 
Yeah, they were laughing. 

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Yeah, we're good job. 
Yeah. 

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That's why we didn't cut his 
hands and feed off. 

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Yeah. 
So Baylor took six months to 

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recover. 
Presumably the saris a man 

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aegon's dad. 
An Aries. 

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His dad was still ruling his 
hand which while he was still 

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wearing his hand. 
He presumably didn't really skip

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a beat much because he was 
already doing all the work. 

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Well, Baylor was on his walk. 
So this just extended that 

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interim and frankly, throughout 
most of Baylor, was range of 

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Sarah's did most of the 
day-to-day stuff anyway and had 

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done most The day-to-day stuff 
touring dare on the first rain 

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and had done, most of the 
day-to-day stuff during his 

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brother aegon the third's rain. 
So he was really used to this 

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and the kingdom was probably 
better for it in a lot of ways. 

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And but I really think this is a
bonding opportunity. 

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You got a Pious dedicated 
kingsguard who's a member of 

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Baylor's family, right, their 
cousins and you've got Baylor 

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recovering and eamon's just 
probably anxious about whether 

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he's going. 
To survive and make it and I 

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think they would, this will be a
bonding experience experience 

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experiment. 
Well, that too there, there in a

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village in the middle of 
nowhere. 

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I guess or at storms end 
eventually for part of the time 

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and just months of just hanging 
out, he's recovering. 

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They would talk about the gods 
and faith and stuff. 

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I would think they got close. 
What do you think? 

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Sean is that, you know, does it 
seem like a stretch at all? 

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Does it know for sure? 
I mean, I lucky if this was like

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a series hanging, If they made a
show or movie out of this to me 

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be. 
In fact I would be okay with 

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just that just like a very 
cinematic dramatic epic of him 

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making this Trek on foot and 
maybe like a little episodic 

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encounters along the way coming 
back and in conversations with 

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him with the two of them, no 
action needed. 

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You know the only action is 
jumping in the towers. 

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I'm jumping out of the cage or 
whatever. 

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I would love just I don't know 
like a very character-driven. 

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Yeah, short film. 
That whole episode, you know, 

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we're so well for like holy 
stuff because it's in a desert 

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like it's already what we 
associate the modern world with 

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a lot of religious Traditions 
coming out of the desert. 

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Like a lot of the major ones 
associate with with deserts and 

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regions like that. 
It's kind of fitting like an 

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understanding and a lot of 
other. 

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I do mythological stories 
include someone, traveling 

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through the desert, searching 
their inner soul, or whatever I 

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mean. 
Yeah, totally on. 

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And on with that. 
Yeah. 

447
00:23:01,300 --> 00:23:03,000
Characters have gone through 
this scenario and how 

448
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,200
interesting nose Stories are but
I think George is probably 

449
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,700
thinking about. 
When you wrote this, I mean, it 

450
00:23:06,700 --> 00:23:08,900
already fits into his world 
Dorne being what it is. 

451
00:23:08,900 --> 00:23:12,900
Having the deserts You got to 
think that Baylor has not really

452
00:23:12,900 --> 00:23:15,700
had a chance to rain yet, like 
he became king and immediately 

453
00:23:15,700 --> 00:23:17,700
said about resolving. 
The storm situation. 

454
00:23:17,700 --> 00:23:20,100
Took his shoes off, started 
walking right by the way, that's

455
00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:21,800
another thing about this. 
The he walked into that pit of 

456
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,600
vipers without shoes. 
Hasn't really had that much 

457
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,100
crazy to the let's already 
crazy. 

458
00:23:26,100 --> 00:23:27,800
It's like that's only slightly 
crazier. 

459
00:23:28,300 --> 00:23:30,200
Guess if you're feeling any 
guys, like, oh, he didn't have 

460
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,300
shoes. 
Oh my God, like he walked for 

461
00:23:32,300 --> 00:23:35,100
like six months without shoes. 
His feet were probably Leather 

462
00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:35,900
by then. 
Yeah. 

463
00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:39,100
He's like, nah, my feet are too 
tough for these vipers to bite 

464
00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:40,900
through. 
When, if that's the way for the 

465
00:23:40,900 --> 00:23:43,700
story being exaggerated to like,
he didn't technically have shoes

466
00:23:43,700 --> 00:23:47,500
on, but you had some sort of 
binding wrapped up for some 

467
00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:48,800
level of protection. 
Yeah. 

468
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,000
Maybe maybe it helped make it 
through the hot desert sand or 

469
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,700
rocky areas, but still the 
Vipers are going to bite through

470
00:23:56,700 --> 00:24:03,300
that or up on your knee and not 
with God on your side. 

471
00:24:03,300 --> 00:24:08,500
Yeah, no, I'm good. 
Hey man, himself had been 

472
00:24:08,500 --> 00:24:10,800
poisoned too if we recall he had
taken that poison arrow. 

473
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,500
You jumped in front of so he 
knew what the experience was 

474
00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:15,100
like. 
So so yet another thing that he 

475
00:24:15,108 --> 00:24:17,500
could like bond with Baylor's 
like yeah I know what it's like 

476
00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:19,400
to be poisoned cuz you know, 
it's terrible. 

477
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,300
It's socks, man. 
I know I know I get it and he 

478
00:24:22,300 --> 00:24:25,700
was and Baylor was more poisoned
and way, less strong of a man. 

479
00:24:25,700 --> 00:24:28,600
Like this is a frail dude, 
compared to the big strong 

480
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,600
Dragon Knight. 
I wonder how much they inspired 

481
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,500
each other. 
Yeah, I think a lot I'm guessing

482
00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:37,800
a lot like at the point they aim
on get Baylor on the way down. 

483
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,400
He's already traveled a long 
way. 

484
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:40,900
Yeah. 
Right. 

485
00:24:40,900 --> 00:24:43,600
And probably was going to make 
it anyway but there's probably a

486
00:24:43,608 --> 00:24:46,900
little extra Drive. 
He's like, I have to survive, I 

487
00:24:46,908 --> 00:24:49,400
have to go faster. 
Yeah, like a mom's waiting in a 

488
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,700
cage right now. 
I like, is this extra pressure 

489
00:24:51,700 --> 00:24:54,800
on him point? 
And when he gets back, hey, mon 

490
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,100
is probably like, hey, really, 
went down a hallway and got 

491
00:24:58,100 --> 00:25:01,600
back, like, I have to save him. 
I can't let him have gone all 

492
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,300
this way for me and in, not save
him now myself. 

493
00:25:04,300 --> 00:25:07,500
So like I bet they both inspired
Motivating each other to go 

494
00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:08,600
beyond what they would have 
done. 

495
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:09,900
Yeah. 
Like a man would be impressed 

496
00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:12,400
with Baylor's dedication and how
he managed to survive being such

497
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,200
a small dude. 
And, you know, he's not like him

498
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,500
and I was like, well, I'm big 
and strong. 

499
00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:19,700
I can kind of understand how 
person like me maybe could 

500
00:25:19,700 --> 00:25:22,900
survive, but this dude's not no 
good with a sword. 

501
00:25:22,900 --> 00:25:24,700
He's small. 
It's more impressive. 

502
00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:27,100
In a lot of ways. 
He doesn't have the the tool set

503
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,600
for survival like a dragon 
knight does. 

504
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,600
So yeah, that, that is a 
different sort of Bravery, like,

505
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,200
kind of like how Brienne broke 
down the different types of 

506
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,800
Bravery, like, it's not bad. 
Courage. 

507
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,400
But, you know, he ceases a 
woman's courage, which is, you 

508
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,400
know, whatever that means in 
that context she had a strong 

509
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,100
point behind that. 
It's a little similar here, you 

510
00:25:44,108 --> 00:25:44,400
know? 
Yeah. 

511
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,200
I don't know what you need to 
call it woman's currently, if 

512
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,700
you attach gender to it but in 
that I've got her in my it. 

513
00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:51,700
Yeah. 
No I get why they do it, it's 

514
00:25:51,700 --> 00:25:53,900
setting. 
But if we're trying to put a 

515
00:25:53,908 --> 00:25:56,500
modern lens on it, it's not 
necessary to put gender on. 

516
00:25:56,500 --> 00:25:59,400
It didn't sound the best coming 
from us right now, but within 

517
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,600
this world like, yeah, son, 
still lives a different life 

518
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,200
than Rob. 
Yeah, definitely. 

519
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,700
Yeah, but it doesn't mean 
there's no curse courage require

520
00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:09,600
dental and not like really 
understands that Brandon has 

521
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,300
seen kind of, I don't know. 
I want to say both sides the 

522
00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:14,700
world but there's more than two 
sides of the world, but but both

523
00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:17,300
sides of the roles of how 
courage can play out. 

524
00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:19,500
Yeah, absolutely. 
And so this is maybe a similar 

525
00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:23,100
moment here where they're 
reflecting and respecting each 

526
00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:26,400
other's version of courage and 
all the ways that could take, 

527
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,300
and that would be something to 
really discuss in the, at the 

528
00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:34,100
dawn of a new era, you've got a 
new king, who's got to decide 

529
00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:36,100
how he wants to rule, and that's
kind of what I was. 

530
00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:38,800
Going when we got a little 
sidetracked, but well with a 

531
00:26:38,808 --> 00:26:40,500
good story, good thing to talk 
about. 

532
00:26:40,500 --> 00:26:43,300
But what I wanted to get at was 
he doesn't yet know what kind of

533
00:26:43,308 --> 00:26:45,300
King he's going to be. 
He probably didn't grow up in. 

534
00:26:45,308 --> 00:26:48,900
He was going to be king. 
He was the Second Son of very 

535
00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:51,000
Marshall capable young Targaryen
Prince. 

536
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,100
It looked like daeron the young 
dragon would have kids one day 

537
00:26:55,100 --> 00:26:57,700
and yeah, so bail or probably 
didn't see this coming unless he

538
00:26:57,700 --> 00:27:00,200
dreamt of it that aside as 
possible. 

539
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,900
There's always that. 
So he's out here thinking about 

540
00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:06,900
how he wants to rule and maybe 
making Hands while he's 

541
00:27:06,900 --> 00:27:08,600
recovering and haman's, right 
there. 

542
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:13,200
A guy who's maybe of like mind 
is him and maybe a man was 

543
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,300
helping him, make some decisions
about how he would want a ruler.

544
00:27:16,300 --> 00:27:23,500
At least giving him ideas, at 
least giving him someone to look

545
00:27:23,500 --> 00:27:27,100
up to and be like we want more. 
I want the realm to produce more

546
00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:28,700
people like you. 
Amen. 

547
00:27:28,700 --> 00:27:30,900
And aim is like, well, I want 
the realm to produce more people

548
00:27:30,900 --> 00:27:36,100
like you Baylor, you know and 
Some of that was good. 

549
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:38,300
Most of it was good. 
Probably on the other hand, some

550
00:27:38,300 --> 00:27:39,700
of it wasn't. 
Some of the definitely wasn't 

551
00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:43,600
because Baylor made a lot of 
decisions that weren't thought 

552
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,000
through that. 
Maybe that he had the goodness 

553
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,300
in his mind, but couldn't see 
from an engineering perspective,

554
00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:53,900
how it would actually work. 
You know, like if you make this 

555
00:27:53,900 --> 00:27:56,600
decision, it's going to cause 
more violence, was it? 

556
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,800
Yes. 
But if we stop using Ravens for 

557
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,900
carrying messages and use only 
white birds than everyone's, 

558
00:28:02,900 --> 00:28:04,500
well, why do you want to do 
this? 

559
00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:07,400
Well, because Black birds are 
evil to their symbols of the old

560
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,000
gods and they have all their 
messages like yeah. 

561
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,100
But the white birds don't know 
how to carry message. 

562
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:13,600
They just literally can't do 
that. 

563
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,300
You can't just make them do 
that. 

564
00:28:16,300 --> 00:28:19,600
Like you can't just switch that 
we gonna paint the Ravens white.

565
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,600
I mean yeah this is to see this 
is that's just lunacy. 

566
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,600
Right? 
On the other hand you wonder if 

567
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,600
it's coming from a place of 
Truth like yeah those Messengers

568
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,700
used to those Ravens used to 
speak and it's the old it is the

569
00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:36,400
old gods that's powering that 
sort of And maybe that creeped 

570
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,300
him out and bought that, you 
know, that's blasphemous or I 

571
00:28:39,308 --> 00:28:42,200
don't know, still a bad idea to 
just do away with the Ravens and

572
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,800
try to replace them with the 
white Ravens. 

573
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,500
But maybe there was really, 
maybe it's more to it than him 

574
00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:48,800
just thinking, oh, this is 
Blasphemous. 

575
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,900
You know, there may have been a 
real Vision behind all that, 

576
00:28:51,700 --> 00:28:55,700
like, even if the birds really 
were evil like so far, they're 

577
00:28:55,700 --> 00:28:57,200
just carrying our messages. 
Yeah. 

578
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,300
So, let's just, you know, maybe 
we need to get rid of them, but 

579
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,800
let's get a better system in 
place first rather than white 

580
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,800
Ravens, it just won't work. 
Life gets the Pony Express going

581
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,700
or something, you know are we 
even sure that the birds are 

582
00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:14,600
real point now with where 
someone like bail or you can't 

583
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,000
be sure what's real and what 
isn't this guy seeing things? 

584
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,800
All over the place. 
Now you're on your wonder what 

585
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,000
aim is thinking is Amy just 
polite. 

586
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,500
Like, yes, your grace. 
That's a great idea or if he's 

587
00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:26,000
actually trying to talk some 
sense into him or if he's all 

588
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,100
for it, like maybe aim is a 
little crazy to we don't know 

589
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:31,000
for sure. 
Like at the end of these episode

590
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,000
I'm gonna ask the question. 
Did we fall for him to did we 

591
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,800
fall for his Legend, are we like
exaggerating the deeds in the 

592
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,100
same way that Sansa and bring 
our? 

593
00:29:39,100 --> 00:29:42,300
Where did we fall for it? 
To is this, we unpack this a 

594
00:29:42,308 --> 00:29:44,100
little more and then we'll maybe
it's some of this is 

595
00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:46,400
exaggerated, I don't know, I 
don't know, maybe probably know,

596
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,700
I lean towards this. 
Being a lot of it being accurate

597
00:29:48,700 --> 00:29:52,200
him really being this amazing 
but if it's anything, we've 

598
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,500
learned from the way George 
rice. 

599
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:56,700
That's lot of times. 
Even the good stories are 

600
00:29:56,708 --> 00:29:59,000
exaggerated the bad stories. 
Can be exact all the stories can

601
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,600
be exaggerated. 
Also, you can do a lot of 

602
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,300
amazing and good things and also
do a lot of bad things or be a 

603
00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:07,500
bad person while doing 
quote-unquote amazing. 

604
00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:10,500
Things like what did Amon think 
of look with one of the first 

605
00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:12,900
things that happened when Baylor
gets back to King's Landing. 

606
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,900
Is he locks up his sisters in 
the made involved his three 

607
00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:18,200
sisters that one of whom he had 
been married to and he's like 

608
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,900
well we never consummated it and
he made the septon on, do it 

609
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,900
becomes unmarried it has no 
plans on getting married or 

610
00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:27,500
having children. 
Which of course in a monarchy is

611
00:30:28,300 --> 00:30:31,900
problematic, but Amon may have 
been all for it. 

612
00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:34,600
He may have been supportive of 
this, he may have been like yeah

613
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,000
like especially seeing how way 
his sister was treated by their 

614
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,100
brother he might have been like 
yeah this is good but he met 

615
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,500
this is a tough one. 
I don't know what he may have 

616
00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:45,400
been completely against locking 
his cousin's up like that. 

617
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,800
That's like well this isn't the 
solution like why why is it 

618
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,900
their fault. 
He might have been really torn 

619
00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:52,100
here like he might have even 
been really against it or 

620
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:56,100
frustrated or confused by but 
also just saved my My life. 

621
00:30:56,100 --> 00:30:58,700
I don't know like how much I can
push him around. 

622
00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:01,300
Like he's, you know, something 
he walked across the desert with

623
00:31:01,300 --> 00:31:03,900
no shoes you survived the snake 
bikes saved my life. 

624
00:31:03,900 --> 00:31:05,300
Like what if he believed that 
his mid? 

625
00:31:05,300 --> 00:31:07,300
What if he does claim? 
It's based on visions and a 

626
00:31:07,308 --> 00:31:09,300
man's like well, who am I to 
question these visions that came

627
00:31:09,300 --> 00:31:12,800
from, the gods seems wrong, but 
it's all part of God's plan that

628
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,900
kind of attitude, you know, you 
can see him taking that. 

629
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:17,900
Hmm. 
A man could have had a vicious 

630
00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:19,100
to yeah. 
Yeah. 

631
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:20,300
Maybe you might you might be 
right. 

632
00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:22,500
We don't, we honestly haven't 
asked that question but there's 

633
00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:25,000
no reason to discard that idea 
on the top. 

634
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,400
Like, yeah. 
Absolutely possible. 

635
00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:28,700
Maybe he just doesn't even speak
about it or maybe just isn't 

636
00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:31,800
recorded by the way as well. 
I don't I don't want to just 

637
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,800
assume everyone had Visions all 
the time but it's a new thing to

638
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,500
consider who might have. 
And so I have to at least pause 

639
00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:41,000
on it for each person but I 
haven't thought about before is 

640
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,200
that makes yes. 
Yes, that's one thing that's 

641
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,100
tricky about this is when we're 
dealing with this area. 

642
00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:48,200
There's so many interesting 
characters and we're missing 

643
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,300
some large chunks of their 
personality and how what they 

644
00:31:51,300 --> 00:31:54,300
thought of certain people is 
were yeah, we're how to 

645
00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:57,500
reconcile things that It seem 
conflicted in certain ways, like

646
00:31:57,500 --> 00:32:00,800
we just don't know, we guess 
that Amon and Baylor had a lot 

647
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,300
in common. 
They saw a lot of things 

648
00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:03,700
eye-to-eye, but there's certain 
these decisions. 

649
00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:05,900
It's hard to say whether a man 
would have agreed or just kept 

650
00:32:05,900 --> 00:32:08,500
his mouth shut or actually spoke
it up because he did speak up 

651
00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:10,600
against his brother. 
Sometimes it's clear, he's 

652
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,200
willing to do that. 
Even if it's not necessarily 

653
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,800
something, he would have done to
Baylor specifically where is, he

654
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,400
definitely did it to his brother
talk about nerys. 

655
00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaking of his sister this is 
another thing that a man might 

656
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:28,100
have been very grateful to King 
bail or four which is the way 

657
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,400
nerys was treated versus the way
nerys was treated pretty much 

658
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,900
under all the other kings which 
is that she has stillborn twins 

659
00:32:36,900 --> 00:32:38,300
in the first year of Baylor was 
rain. 

660
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:42,900
And Nares was frail. 
Like the first time she had a 

661
00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:45,200
child, which was Darren back in 
153. 

662
00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:48,400
So, eight years prior the 
maester said she's too frail. 

663
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,000
She shouldn't have any more kids
and Nares is like, hey I've done

664
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,900
my duty to you as wife. 
Let's just be brother and sister

665
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:57,300
from now on and a Gonzaga has to
be clear their guns. 

666
00:32:57,300 --> 00:33:00,200
Like we are living as brother 
and sister because they're 

667
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,100
targaryens like real snotty 
response there. 

668
00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:05,500
So he wanted to keep sleeping 
with her even though he openly 

669
00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:07,900
didn't like it, he didn't like 
sleeping with her because she 

670
00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:10,600
was Pious and presumably wasn't 
into it. 

671
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,400
Okay go figure yeah thank you 
with him you know as I like him 

672
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,500
he was having sex with other 
people. 

673
00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:18,900
He's sleeping around so he 
didn't feel like he was like 

674
00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:21,400
couldn't have sex. 
If it wasn't with her you know 

675
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,700
which isn't which also isn't 
even a good reason, but it 

676
00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:27,200
wasn't even that he was Around 
all over the place, didn't even 

677
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,900
like sleeping with Nares, but 
still wanted to like, have that 

678
00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:32,400
power over her. 
No wonder Amon, didn't like his 

679
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,400
brother. 
No wonder most people didn't 

680
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,200
like egg on the Baylor with 
Baylor and charge things were a 

681
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,600
little different, Dale ours. 
As usual didn't have a strong 

682
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,400
response to thing. 
He didn't punish anyone core, he

683
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:49,200
just saw this as a God's will so
he fasted and response to these 

684
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,600
deaths which he did that a lot. 
He fasted in response to a lot 

685
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:58,500
of tragedies and just in general
Just fasted, that's just thing. 

686
00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:02,200
He fasted. 
And so, of course, a man would 

687
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,400
want to grieve with her and 
comfort her and help her out and

688
00:34:06,408 --> 00:34:09,000
get through this, which would 
have terrible mean, losing a 

689
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,100
child is terrible. 
This is two children, but at the

690
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:14,400
same time, I mean, that's hard 
to Fathom. 

691
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,900
But in and of course, a gun 
would not have been. 

692
00:34:16,900 --> 00:34:17,900
He would have just been 
horrible. 

693
00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:20,300
He probably was like, yeah, I'm 
going to have mold just try 

694
00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:22,600
again, you know, I'm gonna have 
more kids with you. 

695
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,300
So Baylor step to he did do 
something. 

696
00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:27,600
It was a little like he do move 
here. 

697
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,600
He sent aegon to braavos on a 
diplomatic Mission. 

698
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:33,900
Why him? 
Why Prince aegon to get rid of 

699
00:34:33,900 --> 00:34:35,400
him? 
He obviously wasn't the right 

700
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,100
man for the job. 
Of course, what does he do? 

701
00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:42,500
He starts an affair with the 
Black Pearl and has one, two, 

702
00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:46,199
three children with her and this
affair lasts up to 10 years, 

703
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,100
which might mean egg on spent a 
lot of time in Bravos. 

704
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:52,400
He may have spent significant 
time there which would have been

705
00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:56,300
a real Relief for Nares and 
Amon. 

706
00:34:57,500 --> 00:34:59,200
This brings you back to when I 
started this point. 

707
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,200
Was that another thing for a man
to be like whatever Baylor 

708
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,800
wants? 
I will do whatever he wants 

709
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,700
because he's just done so much 
for things that I care about. 

710
00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:09,700
Even if I disagree with him on 
his other things, he's done so 

711
00:35:09,700 --> 00:35:13,400
much for me personally and yeah,
that Bond will be strong and a 

712
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,100
man's Duty first kind of guy. 
Anyway, as we've seen like, even

713
00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:19,000
though we have questions about 
his personality, pretty hard to 

714
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,300
argue against that, but he isn't
a duty first, kind of guy, this 

715
00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:25,800
is our duty and love come to 
Whether it's his duty to be 

716
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:31,700
loving and caring to his sister.
In this time of grief and the 

717
00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:34,400
absence of a gun would be a 
relief, helping them grieve 

718
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,500
without interference. 
So, might have been Nares. 

719
00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:40,300
This best stretch of life when 
her brother was gone, which is 

720
00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:44,300
ironic because she just lost 
children, but was a 10-year 

721
00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:46,300
stretch here. 
So maybe after The Grieving was 

722
00:35:46,300 --> 00:35:49,700
over, I mean she probably never 
be fully done with that grief, 

723
00:35:49,700 --> 00:35:52,300
but a certain point you would be
may be okay again. 

724
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,900
At least Once one of the Kings 
was taking an interest in her 

725
00:35:56,300 --> 00:35:58,500
caring about her welfare and 
that would have been nice for a 

726
00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:00,200
change. 
Darren probably didn't care 

727
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,400
about her much at all. 
Aegon the third didn't really 

728
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,600
care about hardly anyone. 
He was just kind of mopey and 

729
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,500
depressed and was a pretty 
decent King, but he was not a 

730
00:36:07,508 --> 00:36:10,200
guy to expect sympathy from. 
He wasn't really didn't really 

731
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,500
have that kind of emotional 
energy didn't have that capacity

732
00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:14,300
in him. 
He was too traumatized. 

733
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:18,000
I suppose a man, however, would 
have been there for her and 

734
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,800
that's all the more reason that 
he would have to be there for 

735
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:20,800
her. 
Because who else would be? 

736
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,200
So this is kind of like a, I 
don't know like a gods. 

737
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,700
Squad. 
You have forming here. 

738
00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:27,000
You have a bunch of Pious people
that are in control here. 

739
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,700
Your bail or King, You've Nares,
the princess later, Queen who's 

740
00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:37,100
very Pious, a man's very Pious 
and you presumably have young 

741
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:41,800
Darren, who is aegon son, who is
now betrothed to Mariah Martel 

742
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:47,000
after the walk and he's young. 
At this point, he's eight in the

743
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,400
year. 161, he's coming of age 
during Baylor's rain, and he 

744
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,300
really took after bail or he's 
part of the reason. 

745
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,400
Got along with his father, aegon
the Unworthy, because he's more 

746
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,000
like Baylor or Amon more like 
bail or because he's not 

747
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,200
Marshall, he's not a fighter. 
So more like Baylor the neyman, 

748
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,700
but didn't want his kids to 
marry each other was big on the 

749
00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:05,000
seven. 
His nickname ended up, being 

750
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,100
dare on the good so kind of see 
where that's going. 

751
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:11,000
But he's also the one the black 
fires challenge for being too 

752
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:16,300
dornish and to pacifistic and to
not Targaryen even though he was

753
00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:19,700
Targaryen, that's another story.
So I have to think that you can,

754
00:37:19,700 --> 00:37:23,300
it's no wonder that whenever it 
came around. 

755
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,600
Round to name a new batch of 
kingsguard considering bed been 

756
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,700
killed in Dorne. 
The Naaman was made, Lord 

757
00:37:30,700 --> 00:37:34,000
Commander just makes sense, 
given the closeness to Baylor 

758
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,900
and the fact that his dad is the
hand of the king year, your 

759
00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:39,300
cousin, who you just got to know
really well. 

760
00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:41,500
And he saved his life is the 
king and your dad is Hand of the

761
00:37:41,508 --> 00:37:43,600
king and you probably deserved 
it. 

762
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,500
So you got the nepotism and the 
resume. 

763
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,900
So, you know, all the factors, 
you know, another thing to keep 

764
00:37:50,900 --> 00:37:55,900
in mind, as you're calling this,
Fear of the god Squad, with 

765
00:37:55,900 --> 00:38:00,600
those people in those positions,
it's likely many other people 

766
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,000
peppered around them would be 
Pious to. 

767
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:05,600
Yeah, we're at least Circle, 
pretend to be Pious for the sake

768
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:10,000
of getting, or maintaining the 
positions on the small Council 

769
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,800
or whatever else. 
You know, people would realize. 

770
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,600
I'm more likely to get in the 
kingsguard. 

771
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:18,900
Yeah, if I'm more Pious King and
then the dragon Prince or Pious,

772
00:38:18,900 --> 00:38:21,300
well, I guess I better at least 
pretend to fall in line with 

773
00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:23,400
that so he got dark sister back 
at some point. 

774
00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:26,300
To I can't imagine that they 
just let him keep it in the cage

775
00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:29,600
with him while he was chilling 
but clearly you got it back. 

776
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,100
I don't know. 
We don't know how but we talked 

777
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:34,500
about it in the Lost Valyrian 
steel episode was Tommy Pappas 

778
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,400
along with the crown of aegon. 
The Conqueror, there was worn by

779
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,600
Darren and blackfyre. 
They didn't give those back. 

780
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,000
So that's an interesting story. 
One of them came back, the other

781
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,600
two did. 
Yeah. 

782
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,700
Nein also wonders about the 
reign of Baylor and what Amon 

783
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:49,300
thought about it on one hand 
Baylor's. 

784
00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:51,100
Strict with me to peace with 
Doran, would have immediately 

785
00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:53,200
put down any question of a man 
showing off martial skills and 

786
00:38:53,207 --> 00:38:55,700
bat. 
Which may have frustrated him if

787
00:38:55,700 --> 00:38:58,100
he wanted to show off, but on 
the other hand, you may not have

788
00:38:58,100 --> 00:38:59,400
been that type. 
You may not have cared about 

789
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,600
showing off, we just don't know.
On the other hand, a man, 

790
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,900
clearly demonstrated a sense of 
piety to the faith of the seven,

791
00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:06,600
did he appreciate having a king?
On the Iron Throne new, 

792
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,000
prioritize the faith? 
Good open question there, too. 

793
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,800
Because King Baylor sent egg on 
a diplomatic mission to Bravo's 

794
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,000
after Nares nearly died. 
In childbirth is pretty, would 

795
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,400
have been a rare opportunity for
a man in Aries, to spend time 

796
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,500
together without the cloud of 
aegon hanging over them both. 

797
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,900
And because a man was both a 
kingsguard and marries his 

798
00:39:22,900 --> 00:39:25,800
brother, he was Has perfectly 
placed intercede between Aires 

799
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,900
and the King. 
Yeah, you wonder if this just 

800
00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:31,000
inflamed aegon's belief later if
he started getting his head like

801
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,600
oh you too cheating on me 
together. 

802
00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:37,600
This time that he wasn't there 
to witness it, maybe in his mind

803
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,700
he got it. 
That's the time that they were 

804
00:39:40,700 --> 00:39:44,100
most cheating, you know, when he
wasn't there, but who knows? 

805
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,600
Now it's also possible that a 
man suggested this to bail bail,

806
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,700
or may have just been, like, you
know, would be smart to just 

807
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:53,400
send egg on away and medic 
Mission, that'll get him out of 

808
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,600
Aries is hair for a while, but 
maybe the idea was suggested by 

809
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,900
some of the, maybe even a man 
was like, Hey King, you know, my

810
00:39:59,900 --> 00:40:02,100
brother would make an excellent 
choice for this envoi. 

811
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,400
You're looking to send to 
Bravo's, you know, and bailers 

812
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,100
like, yes, good idea. 
Mmm. 

813
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:11,100
Yeah, yeah, it is possible, that
Baylor, remember, I was thinking

814
00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:13,900
how I am on, might have like 
gone along with some stuff that 

815
00:40:13,900 --> 00:40:16,900
bay lower did, even though I 
didn't like it that much because

816
00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:18,700
he saved his life. 
Mmm. 

817
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,600
Yeah. 
Baylor, might be the same way 

818
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,300
bail or also felt like a monster
this way? 

819
00:40:23,500 --> 00:40:26,200
Life and he might have him on. 
Might have had some extra 

820
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,200
pulled. 
Another thought I had is I 

821
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,500
wonder how many of these things 
are bail or did they were kind 

822
00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:34,600
of - and it we even like maybe 
question am on a little bit for 

823
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,200
going along with her supporting,
you know, as Kings or whatever. 

824
00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:39,900
I wonder if maybe it would have 
been worse, if not for a month. 

825
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,300
Yeah, if Baylor went to lock up,
all the women in the red kite of

826
00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:48,000
a family members, you know, I, 
you know, maybe he's one of the 

827
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,700
few people just until the man. 
Yeah, that's a great Point. 

828
00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:53,400
Actually, I maybe he was the 
voice of reason a mitigating or 

829
00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:55,100
The getting bored. 
He may not full voice of reason 

830
00:40:55,100 --> 00:40:57,400
but just tap it down a little 
bit there. 

831
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,200
King crazy. 
Yeah. 

832
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,600
Which brings us to another sort 
of off the pass. 

833
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,500
Putting it nicely, it was called
crazy. 

834
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,200
He wanted to apparently go up 
against the non faithful. 

835
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,900
He was thinking maybe of cutting
down more where Woods maybe 

836
00:41:11,900 --> 00:41:15,400
going to war against the north 
maybe not war, but imposing 

837
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,700
things on them that probably 
would have led to war, you know.

838
00:41:17,700 --> 00:41:20,800
Like he wouldn't have declare I 
would have declared war on them 

839
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,300
but maybe he would have more 
likely he would. 

840
00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:28,100
Have just imposed things that 
cause them to chafe and that may

841
00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:30,600
have led to violence. 
So who it what would a man 

842
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,500
fighting? 
This would a man, do you approve

843
00:41:32,500 --> 00:41:37,800
of chopping down where Woods, or
would he approve of any of this 

844
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,000
stuff about trying to bring the 
north into line with the faith 

845
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,100
of the seven? 
That's a real tough one. 

846
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,900
I feel like this might be one. 
He went along with because it's 

847
00:41:45,900 --> 00:41:50,200
a matter of not just the king 
but if the gods and who is he to

848
00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:51,800
say? 
Otherwise, he might personally 

849
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,900
object, but it'd be something. 
He just has to Go along with 

850
00:41:53,900 --> 00:41:56,300
because it's his duty. 
So not the kind of thing that he

851
00:41:56,308 --> 00:42:00,300
would object to strongly enough 
to cause him to go against his 

852
00:42:00,300 --> 00:42:05,600
prime directive of Duty. 
This brings us to a curious but 

853
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,400
difficult to place in the 
timeline. 

854
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,300
Anecdote where we're told that 
aemon the dragonknight fought 

855
00:42:11,300 --> 00:42:14,700
against Lord creegan. 
It wasn't apparently a duel. 

856
00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:17,500
We're one of them was expected 
to die. 

857
00:42:17,500 --> 00:42:20,300
Where was a duel to the death? 
Neither of them died in this 

858
00:42:20,300 --> 00:42:24,200
duel, but we don't even know 
what it was fought over brand. 

859
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:29,700
Mentions it casually in the 
Crepes while telling OSHA about 

860
00:42:29,700 --> 00:42:32,800
the different Starks and maester
Luwin is right there. 

861
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,400
So, you know, that if Brands 
said something incorrect, he 

862
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,200
would have corrected him. 
All right, he's like Brent 

863
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,600
elosha about the different 
Starks, you know, it's like a 

864
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,800
lesson and he says there's the 
crate Dragon. 

865
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,500
There's Cregan Stark who fought 
against the dragon Night. 

866
00:42:44,500 --> 00:42:47,500
Dragon night said, he He never 
faced a finer sword, that's the 

867
00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:50,800
whole anecdote. 
We try to figure out when this 

868
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,700
happened. 
We really don't know when it 

869
00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:54,100
happened. 
We don't know why. 

870
00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:57,700
Here's a few guesses, though. 
It could relate to Kragen's only

871
00:42:57,700 --> 00:43:01,900
son and Heir at the time dying 
at the end of the first war in 

872
00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:05,200
Dorne and 157. 
Maybe a man, brought his bones 

873
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,300
to him, and that caused some 
sort of problem. 

874
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,000
Problem with that is aiming was 
laid up recovering from Poison 

875
00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:12,400
at the end of that point. 
So that doesn't really fit at 

876
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,200
timing, doesn't work very well. 
Maybe it would say if he comes 

877
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,300
later. 
Well, what would what's the 

878
00:43:16,300 --> 00:43:19,000
problem? 
What why what caused this duel 

879
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,900
to be fought? 
Is it may be that they that 

880
00:43:20,900 --> 00:43:23,400
Starks felt. 
They were owed a Targaryen bride

881
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,400
and never got one. 
Creaking was mad about that he 

882
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,700
demanded a duel for Honor little
bit like the Laughing storm. 

883
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,200
Dueling Duncan the tall over the
issue. 

884
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,700
Another issue of Targaryen 
princess marriage. 

885
00:43:35,700 --> 00:43:39,500
Yeah or Prince marriage. 
Similar example, that could be 

886
00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:42,600
related. 
It may also still be the have, 

887
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,300
for example, you gave like 
bringing The bones up but maybe 

888
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,300
why did it take so long? 
Well, I was poison. 

889
00:43:49,300 --> 00:43:51,400
That's no excuse. 
He's been up there seething and 

890
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,500
Winterfell will just waiting to 
challenge. 

891
00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:57,800
And finally, he comes, he makes 
this apology and creaking maybe 

892
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,000
even wanted to understand and 
accept but he still had this in 

893
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,200
her purse writer for the needed 
to get out or maybe just for 

894
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,900
show of the other words of the 
north you know duel for on. 

895
00:44:07,900 --> 00:44:11,200
Yeah I suspect it was a duel for
Honor because no one died, Terra

896
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,200
incognita and guilty. 
Undertaker say I'm thinking it 

897
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,000
was maybe editor Male a pretty. 
Maybe that's exactly what I was 

898
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,600
going to say. 
I wonder if they could have just

899
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,600
been at a tournament, which may 
still have had some of these 

900
00:44:22,300 --> 00:44:25,200
background frustrations coming 
out in the melee. 

901
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,800
And I can also imagine if maybe 
at a distance through stories 

902
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,600
with this family. 
Death involved. 

903
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,400
There might have been some 
animosity, but they've never met

904
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,300
in person and when they finally 
do, they win each other's. 

905
00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:38,700
Respect through this combat. 
Maybe. 

906
00:44:38,700 --> 00:44:39,700
Yeah. 
That's, that's entirely 

907
00:44:39,700 --> 00:44:42,800
possible. 
I like the the melee tournament 

908
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,500
idea. 
On the other hand, Starks aren't

909
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:46,100
really big. 
I get fighting and melees and 

910
00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:51,500
Cregan would have been like in 
his 40s or 50s by then, and I 

911
00:44:51,508 --> 00:44:53,900
don't know, like maybe join the 
melee because he knew a man 

912
00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:54,700
would be there. 
Yeah. 

913
00:44:54,700 --> 00:44:57,400
So it's a little exactly. 
Not off the table but that's a 

914
00:44:57,408 --> 00:45:00,700
little bit of a call that 
counter-evidence like Stark 

915
00:45:00,700 --> 00:45:02,700
sometimes, if I turn him into a 
plus, he's on the older sides 

916
00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:05,300
like old start fighting in a 
tournament is pretty unusual. 

917
00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:09,800
You know, almost any scenario 
has to have its own bit of 

918
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:10,800
unusual. 
Yes, we do. 

919
00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:12,500
You're right. 
That's why it's a whole thing is

920
00:45:12,500 --> 00:45:14,100
such a mystery. 
We can't like, yeah, can't 

921
00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:15,800
figure it out one day. 
Perhaps. 

922
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,900
We will need a says, I like to 
imagine that. 

923
00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:20,400
It was partly a duel of Honor. 
Compare say, Rob and Joffrey 

924
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,600
practice dueling. 
The oversight of Roderick Asal 

925
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,000
during the Kings visit to 
Winterfell, showing off The 

926
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,600
Heirs of both houses, as well as
perhaps a bit of mild Vengeance 

927
00:45:28,700 --> 00:45:31,400
on the part of Cregan. 
I tend to headcanon that a man 

928
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,700
was coming north to bring 
richens bones home to Winterfell

929
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,900
similar to the way Jon Arryn did
for Luann Martel to Doran early 

930
00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:40,600
in Roberts rain, Craig and may 
not have been truly angry at the

931
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,000
targaryens richens death. 
He himself had been willing to 

932
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,900
go to war for the targaryens 
decades prior, but he may have 

933
00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:48,700
felt a great personal sense of 
loss and grief at the death of 

934
00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:52,100
his son, especially his only 
child by his Beloved first wife,

935
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,000
intern Craig and may not have 
been looking to hurt or kill a 

936
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,600
man but may have wanted to 
exercise his grief and her 

937
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,400
taught Targaryen willing to 
engage in a fight with him. 

938
00:46:00,700 --> 00:46:03,900
A sage on beating iron Emmett 
savagely even after the latter 

939
00:46:03,900 --> 00:46:06,400
yielded because he was thinking 
about Stannis has offer 

940
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,600
Winterfell in his own 
complicated feelings towards 

941
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,100
inheriting it yeah that's an 
interesting anecdote to bring up

942
00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:14,200
John's like totally spacing out.
While fighting an iron Emma 

943
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,400
didn't realize he was wailing on
him. 

944
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,000
This guy who's really good to 
like whoa what happened there? 

945
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,100
You know, I just Into a battle 
friends, like Berserker mode 

946
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:25,100
there. 
A man doesn't seem like the 

947
00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:31,600
Berserker mode type, but maybe 
Craig ensure was I, maybe I'm a 

948
00:46:31,607 --> 00:46:35,000
man was you know, he's got all 
that inner like rage that he's 

949
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,800
constantly holding back and 
having to behave. 

950
00:46:37,900 --> 00:46:39,900
You could see him being one of 
those guys that's just holding 

951
00:46:39,900 --> 00:46:41,900
onto a lot of anger, and if he 
gets the chance to let it out, 

952
00:46:41,900 --> 00:46:43,900
it might come out a little 
quicker than he intended. 

953
00:46:43,900 --> 00:46:46,300
Of course, I prefer into anger 
towards his brother, or maybe 

954
00:46:46,300 --> 00:46:48,900
anger towards himself for 
failing to keep the king alive, 

955
00:46:48,900 --> 00:46:52,100
or I don't know, again the 
nuances Is of his personality 

956
00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:57,600
are not fully available to us. 
So, a lot of Baylor's rain is 

957
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,800
super interesting, will be able 
to discuss it again, when we 

958
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,800
talk about Baylor's, rain and 
may have a chance to Circle back

959
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,800
and add a few more details on to
what Amon may have been thinking

960
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:09,300
if new ideas come along, but 
let's move towards the end of 

961
00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:12,700
Baylor has rain and head to the 
next section of the timeline, 

962
00:47:12,700 --> 00:47:16,100
the near the end of day. 
Laura's Rain Prince Baal or was 

963
00:47:16,100 --> 00:47:20,800
born to Darren and Mariah. 
So the marriage that day Lord 

964
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,700
had arranged by his walk for 
fruit in the form of a child. 

965
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,000
A New Prince Baylor, this is the
future bail or breaks 

966
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,700
pierre-jean. 
The one in the Hedge Knight, who

967
00:47:29,700 --> 00:47:32,500
dies, the end of hedge Knight. 
So we've connected another 

968
00:47:32,500 --> 00:47:36,200
timeline dot here. 
When you consider him but Prince

969
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,800
Baylor, breaks fear, and how 
great he was and how Noble he 

970
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:39,900
was. 
It, sure. 

971
00:47:39,900 --> 00:47:42,800
Does kind of make sense that he 
grew up around the Dragon 

972
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,700
Knight, right? 
It's another, this is probably 

973
00:47:44,700 --> 00:47:46,100
an influence. 
And even though the Dragon 

974
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:51,900
Knight died before, Baylor would
be an adult The legend would 

975
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:53,600
live on. 
Of course, the legend lives on 

976
00:47:53,700 --> 00:47:56,800
120 140 years later. 
It's definitely gonna live on 

977
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,100
five years after his death. 
So especially amongst the family

978
00:48:00,100 --> 00:48:01,500
is is the same family you're 
talking about. 

979
00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:03,100
This is your uncle or cousin or 
whatever. 

980
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,300
So it's very likely impacted 
Baylor significantly in his 

981
00:48:07,300 --> 00:48:10,800
childhood and Beyond again, I 
want to point out the idea that 

982
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,400
not just the legend of a man 
living on, but the people that 

983
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,700
would have been put in place by 
a mon and bail or, and maybe 

984
00:48:17,700 --> 00:48:23,000
Nares would also probably Have 
been very had integrity and 

985
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,300
morality and stuff that would 
have Baylor. 

986
00:48:26,300 --> 00:48:27,600
Would it come up under them? 
Yeah. 

987
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:28,900
Yeah. 
Definitely. 

988
00:48:28,900 --> 00:48:31,300
The other kings guards who were 
protecting him. 

989
00:48:31,500 --> 00:48:33,100
We're probably of a mine with a 
mon. 

990
00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:35,000
Probably, what are, you know, 
whoever ends up being Baylor's, 

991
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,100
Mentor is probably of a mine 
with a mon even if a man isn't 

992
00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:42,700
directly affecting a raising 
fail or people that would have 

993
00:48:42,700 --> 00:48:45,200
been put in place under the 
reign of Baal or name on, are 

994
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,000
still there for Baylor through 
his hmm. 

995
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,500
Good point. 
Not too long after the birth of 

996
00:48:52,500 --> 00:48:55,300
Baylor. 
Breaks beer came the birth of a 

997
00:48:55,308 --> 00:48:59,500
man who would become one of his 
chief Rivals, Damon Waters, who 

998
00:48:59,500 --> 00:49:03,300
was eventually renamed Daemon 
blackfyre? 

999
00:49:03,900 --> 00:49:10,500
And this was from Dana. 
The defiant and Hague on as a 

1000
00:49:10,508 --> 00:49:12,500
name is brother. 
They were not, of course, not 

1001
00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:15,600
married. 
They hooked up and Dana didn't 

1002
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,600
admit who the father was for a 
long time. 

1003
00:49:17,900 --> 00:49:19,600
That doesn't mean there weren't 
strong. 

1004
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,400
Suspicions that doesn't mean 
people didn't know, just wasn't 

1005
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,400
openly stated aim in very 
possibly knew who the father was

1006
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,500
because it was his brother and 
it may just like I said, a 

1007
00:49:29,500 --> 00:49:31,600
marriage has been an Open Secret
anyway, even though Dana refused

1008
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,700
to admit it. 
Remember, Dana is the younger 

1009
00:49:33,700 --> 00:49:39,100
sister of Baylor and Darren. 
The first Dana was married to 

1010
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:41,400
Baal or Baal or never 
consummated. 

1011
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,800
They were locked up in the 
maiden Vault Dana and her two 

1012
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:49,300
sisters so egg on got in somehow
hook up with her and this child 

1013
00:49:49,300 --> 00:49:52,500
was born, they didn't continue 
their Affair, aegon had his 

1014
00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:56,300
famous 9 Mistresses and Dana was
not one of them Dana, maybe 

1015
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,000
wised up and was like that is 
for instance, terrible, I don't.

1016
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,000
Why am I hooking up with him who
probably guarded the made 

1017
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:08,800
involves the kingsguard, right? 
So, if a man was kingsguard Lord

1018
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,100
Commander by now, this would 
maybe be on his show. 

1019
00:50:12,300 --> 00:50:15,400
Elders, as Mary a failure of his
Command, right? 

1020
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,400
Those were his people guarding 
the door. 

1021
00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:22,400
This may be fall on him, which 
might be a lot worse than you 

1022
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,100
think. 
Because what was Baylor's 

1023
00:50:24,100 --> 00:50:28,700
response to his former wife, 
having a child out of wedlock 

1024
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,200
under his he fasted of coercing.
Yes. 

1025
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:36,500
But he fasted hardcore, he died 
fasting. 

1026
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:41,500
So, does aemon blame himself for
this happen? 

1027
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,700
Does he blame himself for the 
king for this? 

1028
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,500
Failure of security that led to 
this child being born, that led 

1029
00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:51,000
to this fasting that led to the 
death of the most Pious King 

1030
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,700
that Westeros would ever see 
before, or after, either way, I 

1031
00:50:54,700 --> 00:50:57,700
think Amon took it hard. 
Maybe could I have done more 

1032
00:50:57,700 --> 00:50:59,500
even if you didn't blame 
himself, he seems like the kind 

1033
00:50:59,500 --> 00:51:00,700
of guy. 
What could I have done 

1034
00:51:00,700 --> 00:51:02,600
differently? 
What could I have done to stop 

1035
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,800
this? 
Even if it's not his fault, the 

1036
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,200
guilt. 
The another king. 

1037
00:51:07,300 --> 00:51:10,200
He's lost, right? 
And the one that probably meant 

1038
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,400
the most to him who real bad, 
right? 

1039
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,200
Real bad net. 
And with that it falls off and 

1040
00:51:15,207 --> 00:51:19,400
he would also see the the change
in leadership like no longer is 

1041
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,500
the his piety going to be number
one on the list. 

1042
00:51:22,500 --> 00:51:25,200
No longer is pacifism going to 
be at the top. 

1043
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,500
You may not have been as the 
pipe pacifism. 

1044
00:51:28,500 --> 00:51:29,900
May not have been as important 
to him. 

1045
00:51:29,900 --> 00:51:33,000
Maybe it was the piety was. 
We can be pretty sure about that

1046
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,000
especially cuz its sister was. 
So what would have been big on 

1047
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,100
that as well? 
Nope, that was over. 

1048
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,700
End of the god Squad perhaps not
that it wasn't still important. 

1049
00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:47,200
It was still a big part of them 
holding on to power was playing 

1050
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,700
nice with the faith of the 
seven. 

1051
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,900
But it certainly would not have 
been as important with with 

1052
00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:55,100
Baylor being gone, TK. 
Okay, podcast Network sends a 

1053
00:51:55,100 --> 00:51:57,600
Super Chat, says love y'all. 
Well, the feeling is mutual, 

1054
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,800
Tommy Shaw, is that where I did?
What's that place? 

1055
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,900
That were? 
I did because TK, okay, podcast 

1056
00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:07,800
Network also, has new dad 
podcast and the next section 

1057
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,000
we're covering is Dad. 
Send. 

1058
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,100
Hey Dad. 
Right on. 

1059
00:52:12,700 --> 00:52:17,100
That's true. 
Dad has a send viserys goes from

1060
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:22,000
hand of the king for 20 years to
king, a king, making his son and

1061
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,100
Heir hand has been done before 
we've seen a lot of examples of 

1062
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:28,000
that, but if but quite a few of 
those times, it didn't actually 

1063
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,500
happen. 
Like the hand dyed before. 

1064
00:52:30,500 --> 00:52:33,900
Like, in the case of the other 
aim and the son of Jerry's 

1065
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:37,800
analysis and who died in order 
that viserys would become king 

1066
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,700
later and Baylor or Bailey. 
Rather was hand as well and he 

1067
00:52:40,707 --> 00:52:43,500
died prematurely. 
So in this case though it's the 

1068
00:52:43,500 --> 00:52:46,700
throne passing from nephew to 
Uncle which is that's unusual. 

1069
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,800
In fact I don't think it's 
happened before or since not on 

1070
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:51,600
the Iron Throne. 
Anyway. 

1071
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,000
So that is that's that's a 
little strange but there's also 

1072
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,600
a possibility that viserys 
poisoned bail or that's an open 

1073
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,100
question, open rumor. 
Even though that's his own 

1074
00:53:02,100 --> 00:53:07,900
nephew, it's possible because 
the idea was that Baylor was his

1075
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,500
decisions his A way to push the 
faith was going to lead to 

1076
00:53:12,500 --> 00:53:14,100
Violent was going to lead to 
Civil War even though he didn't 

1077
00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:16,900
want it to his decisions became 
more and more erratic as he 

1078
00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:20,600
appointed an eight-year-old has 
like high septon. 

1079
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,600
Yeah, he just got crazier and 
crazier. 

1080
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,500
So the ideas he was poisoned 
because his decisions were going

1081
00:53:25,500 --> 00:53:28,600
to lead to ruin, it makes sense.
That doesn't mean it happens. 

1082
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:32,700
But again, what if a man knew 
about it, what if Amon found out

1083
00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:35,500
that his own father? 
Poisoned his Pious King that he 

1084
00:53:35,500 --> 00:53:37,700
was close to, or what, if he 
supported it? 

1085
00:53:37,700 --> 00:53:39,400
I can car find it hard to 
believe they. 

1086
00:53:39,500 --> 00:53:42,000
It, but that has to be like, 
possible. 

1087
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,900
Given how little we know about 
the scenario. 

1088
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:45,400
What is this? 
How does this strike? 

1089
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:46,900
You? 
Sean is pretty pretty wild. 

1090
00:53:46,900 --> 00:53:48,600
All these possibilities is very 
dramatic. 

1091
00:53:49,100 --> 00:53:50,500
I've got three thoughts turn to 
me. 

1092
00:53:50,500 --> 00:53:52,700
I probably gonna forget the 
throne before I get to it. 

1093
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,300
Best of luck to you. 
One is you remember in the 

1094
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,500
episode he did with daniele 
Bolelli about murderous families

1095
00:54:00,500 --> 00:54:03,700
over history? 
Yeah, it's very common, almost 

1096
00:54:03,700 --> 00:54:08,200
expected and many moments and 
you know monarchical system 

1097
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,900
through history For family 
members to try to kill each 

1098
00:54:10,900 --> 00:54:11,800
other. 
That's like a power. 

1099
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,400
It's not like a random fluke 
thing that happened once or 

1100
00:54:14,408 --> 00:54:16,000
twice. 
It was like a consistent thing 

1101
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,800
to happen all the time so it's 
not crazy for Martin hope to 

1102
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,900
have included that in his world.
Right. 

1103
00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:24,400
I don't necessarily expect it's 
true but I don't think it's a 

1104
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,700
stretch won't be surprised 
somehow we found out. 

1105
00:54:26,700 --> 00:54:30,600
It was true. 
Another thought I wonder if some

1106
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:35,200
of the fasting that Baylor did 
was because he was suspicious of

1107
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:39,000
being poisoned, huh? 
Hmm, worried or heard a rumor or

1108
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,200
head of Vision this Zone was 
trying to poison him and so just

1109
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,000
wouldn't eat any food. 
You know, I wonder if that added

1110
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,100
to it a factor at least, you 
know, with the been the main 

1111
00:54:48,100 --> 00:54:49,400
reason, but it could have been a
factor, right? 

1112
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,800
Yeah. 
Especially if he's kind of going

1113
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,800
crazy, which you might have had 
some instability in the first 

1114
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,100
place. 
But he, who knows what kind of 

1115
00:54:57,100 --> 00:55:00,600
heat exhaustion and dehydration.
He went through in a desert that

1116
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,400
might have had a real of 
long-term effect on his 

1117
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,000
psychological. 
Yeah, the past you might have 

1118
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,900
been present. 
All paranoid person, you know 

1119
00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:09,100
what I mean? 
Like, lock the women up, I'm not

1120
00:55:09,100 --> 00:55:11,500
going Eat any food, you know? 
Yeah. 

1121
00:55:11,500 --> 00:55:14,600
Persecute the non Pious, you 
know, I can I can see an element

1122
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,300
of paranoia in him. 
That might have pushed people to

1123
00:55:18,300 --> 00:55:21,400
but if you was, it might have 
been framed as paranoid. 

1124
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,900
Yes. 
But he might have been coming 

1125
00:55:22,900 --> 00:55:26,200
from a place. 
Like, how if Ares the Mad King 

1126
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,300
aerys happened to a bit more 
Pious? 

1127
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,200
Some of the crazy murderer 
things he did might have been 

1128
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,400
done more in the name of God or 
whatever, but he still might 

1129
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,800
have been burning people, it 
still would have been crazy and 

1130
00:55:37,100 --> 00:55:39,100
one of his own kingsguard Jaime 
Lannister's. 

1131
00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:41,000
So You ended up killing him 
again. 

1132
00:55:41,100 --> 00:55:44,700
Hey, mine doesn't seem to be 
presented to us that way, but 

1133
00:55:44,700 --> 00:55:48,100
someone else on the kingsguard, 
someone else in court might have

1134
00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:48,800
been. 
Yeah. 

1135
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,300
Finally, I'm remembering all 
three thoughts. 

1136
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,900
A man might have been too naive 
to think about poison. 

1137
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,700
He might have been too 
righteous. 

1138
00:55:56,700 --> 00:55:58,100
Yeah, whatever. 
You know what I mean? 

1139
00:55:58,100 --> 00:56:01,600
Like what was the name of that? 
The guy that Bronn fought was 

1140
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,400
like he had on her. 
Oh you know. 

1141
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:08,300
Yeah I can just imagine a more 
noble traditional pious night. 

1142
00:56:08,300 --> 00:56:11,700
Just not In weight poison that 
is out of frame because he's 

1143
00:56:11,700 --> 00:56:13,400
been poisoned so his bail or so.
Doesn't. 

1144
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,100
Yeah, but make as much sense 
there but I can see some people 

1145
00:56:16,100 --> 00:56:19,900
just not having that in a realm 
of their concerns of artists. 

1146
00:56:19,900 --> 00:56:23,900
By the way to dance, thank you. 
Another Point. 

1147
00:56:23,900 --> 00:56:28,200
Here is the succession. 
We kind of glossed over we've 

1148
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,000
talked about in other places but
the fact of the saris inherited 

1149
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:36,900
kind of shows that they didn't 
really consider passing the 

1150
00:56:36,900 --> 00:56:39,900
throne to a woman anymore. 
They kind of decided Not to do 

1151
00:56:39,900 --> 00:56:43,200
that even though it wasn't maybe
official, they just passed over 

1152
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,000
down and data could have been 
the queen. 

1153
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:49,000
She was next in line based on 
some versions of or standard 

1154
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,500
versions of how it passes. 
But not against based on, maybe 

1155
00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:55,700
what had been argued over in the
dance but certainly not 

1156
00:56:55,700 --> 00:56:57,700
established afterwards. 
They didn't say no. 

1157
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,000
Women can't really wasn't it 
made law and it was just kind of

1158
00:57:01,100 --> 00:57:04,500
all the men agreed to just do 
that and Dana was part of 

1159
00:57:04,500 --> 00:57:06,900
President. 
It's convenient precedents which

1160
00:57:06,900 --> 00:57:09,300
by the way, is part of why day 
in the the defiant. 

1161
00:57:09,500 --> 00:57:12,800
There's theories that she 
encouraged the behavior of her, 

1162
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,600
son Daemon blackfyre, to take 
the throne because it should 

1163
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:16,900
have been her as Queen in the 
first place. 

1164
00:57:16,900 --> 00:57:18,200
So it's not going to. 
If you're not going to take a 

1165
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,700
Manuel take from that person's 
line, the next candidate that 

1166
00:57:21,700 --> 00:57:23,400
would have come from her 
descent. 

1167
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,900
So there is an argument for that
anyway. 

1168
00:57:25,900 --> 00:57:29,400
That's a whole nother story, 
whole nother, part of the this 

1169
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,100
timeline, a little later. 
But what did I even think about 

1170
00:57:32,100 --> 00:57:34,500
you Damon think? 
Yeah, it's better to pass over 

1171
00:57:34,500 --> 00:57:36,500
the women or that can lead to 
war. 

1172
00:57:36,500 --> 00:57:39,200
He thought, no like he has 
respect for his sister. 

1173
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:40,900
ER, and he's like, no, women are
very capable. 

1174
00:57:40,900 --> 00:57:44,400
Why not give it when I left a in
a rule again just sitting, we 

1175
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,800
can't possibly know but it worth
the worthy. 

1176
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,800
Questioning the throw out there 
and be like, well, yeah, for 

1177
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,500
managing this is a movie or a 
fleshed-out story, not moving 

1178
00:57:51,500 --> 00:57:54,200
but a TV show, or fleshed-out 
novel or something. 

1179
00:57:54,500 --> 00:57:57,700
That would be a thing that would
probably need to be addressed. 

1180
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,700
If the if the story had a man's 
point of view represented 

1181
00:58:00,700 --> 00:58:05,900
strongly one, or we I feel 
generally want to think of him 

1182
00:58:05,900 --> 00:58:08,800
as the hero. 
He's been presented as but I 

1183
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,400
don't know. 
So if the church the faith the 

1184
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:15,000
pious they're not exactly all 
about promoting women in power 

1185
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,300
and feminist rights or whatever.
So I'm sure I'm suspicious. 

1186
00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:22,800
If you know he may not have like
actively wanted her to not be 

1187
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,100
Queen but I don't see him 
pushing forward. 

1188
00:58:25,100 --> 00:58:26,500
Yeah. 
I kind of agree with that. 

1189
00:58:26,500 --> 00:58:28,800
Yeah, it seems like. 
Yeah that's that's probably an 

1190
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,900
uncomfortable truth area. 
That is very, very anti women in

1191
00:58:32,900 --> 00:58:36,800
charge, the faith of the seven 
This is another thing where the 

1192
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,200
nepotism may have worked against
them. 

1193
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,300
Yaman. 
Probably earned his spot as a 

1194
00:58:40,300 --> 00:58:42,600
kingsguard, but it's a real 
blind spot. 

1195
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,500
If you're your own father, who 
probably made the appointment of

1196
00:58:46,500 --> 00:58:48,700
you as Lord, Commander wants to 
murder the king that you're 

1197
00:58:48,700 --> 00:58:52,000
supposed to be protecting. 
You said Sean, maybe he doesn't 

1198
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:53,400
even think about the possibility
of poisoning. 

1199
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,800
I think he probably did but he 
may not have thought about the 

1200
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,800
possibility of poison from his 
own father. 

1201
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,400
And what was you getting? 
How could you stop him? 

1202
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,600
He's like, hey Dad, let me check
that cup. 

1203
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,500
You know your father. 
Hands a cup of wine to bail or 

1204
00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:11,400
you can be like hold on dad. 
Let me give that to the tester 

1205
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:12,900
first, you know? 
Like yeah. 

1206
00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:16,500
I don't know if it's gonna work 
that way and so when it comes to

1207
00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:20,100
family on family violence he's 
more helpless than a neutral 

1208
00:59:20,100 --> 00:59:21,500
kingsguard member. 
My P. 

1209
00:59:21,500 --> 00:59:26,500
And this is of all Targaryen 
leadership group here basically.

1210
00:59:26,500 --> 00:59:27,300
Yeah. 
Mmm. 

1211
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:31,000
Ironically viserys. 
Even whether or not he did 

1212
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,800
murder his nephew here, he was a
good ruler. 

1213
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,000
He was a good King. 
There's no, even though I 

1214
00:59:37,008 --> 00:59:41,100
compared him to Tywin, I did say
Tywin without the evil, that's a

1215
00:59:41,107 --> 00:59:43,100
very important distinction. 
You, he wasn't cruel. 

1216
00:59:43,100 --> 00:59:46,200
That we know of, he wouldn't 
have killed if he did Kill bail 

1217
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,500
or it wasn't to make himself 
King for his own power, it was 

1218
00:59:49,500 --> 00:59:51,900
to avert disaster. 
Seemingly like there's me 

1219
00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:55,300
there's no hint that he did this
for his own gain and he he only 

1220
00:59:55,300 --> 00:59:57,500
lasted 15 ish months. 
He wasn't king very long 

1221
00:59:57,500 --> 01:00:00,300
himself. 
It may also have been poisoned. 

1222
01:00:00,300 --> 01:00:03,800
He may have been poisoned by his
own son, aegon, the Unworthy who

1223
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,000
all of a sudden found himself 
one A person away from the 

1224
01:00:07,008 --> 01:00:11,600
throne which oh my God. 
What is a man think of that? 

1225
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,800
Like a man may have been. 
That's the one reason for Amy 

1226
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:18,000
made to regret. 
His father becoming King is 

1227
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,800
because that puts his brother 
next. 

1228
01:00:21,900 --> 01:00:24,300
But yeah. 
Ike's like, oh boy, you know, on

1229
01:00:24,300 --> 01:00:26,400
the other hand, if it's Darren 
in the line of succession after 

1230
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,700
that, which is a good thing but 
he's like, oh my brother. 

1231
01:00:30,100 --> 01:00:32,700
No, you know. 
So you can see that coming the 

1232
01:00:32,700 --> 01:00:34,400
writing on the wall, is it as 
brother's probably gonna become 

1233
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,800
king, he probably thought. 
Add more than 15 months though. 

1234
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,800
He probably thought he had 
longer than the party that his 

1235
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,200
father because his father wasn't
old like even though his father 

1236
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,100
had been hand for 20 years, he 
has been hands and he was 20 so 

1237
01:00:45,100 --> 01:00:48,200
he was only like 40 something. 
This is nowhere near an old man.

1238
01:00:49,500 --> 01:00:52,300
Nowhere near it all morning. 
Oh yes, says that you 

1239
01:00:52,300 --> 01:00:57,100
40-somethings. 
So again Amon would not have had

1240
01:00:57,100 --> 01:00:59,000
anything to do with this. 
He wouldn't have helped someone 

1241
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,300
murder his own father. 
Certainly not helped his brother

1242
01:01:01,300 --> 01:01:02,700
do it. 
Like he doesn't even like his 

1243
01:01:02,700 --> 01:01:07,500
brother but he probably heard 
the Rumours after shameful. 

1244
01:01:07,500 --> 01:01:08,900
Just shame shame. 
Shame. 

1245
01:01:08,900 --> 01:01:11,600
If your own brother did that, or
if you couldn't stop it just has

1246
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,300
another king this died under his
watch. 

1247
01:01:14,300 --> 01:01:17,100
Now he's Lord Commander as well 
and he was Lord Commander under 

1248
01:01:17,100 --> 01:01:19,400
bail or two. 
So That's two kids. 

1249
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,300
The first two kings, one. 
Tuberculosis one in war, at 

1250
01:01:22,300 --> 01:01:24,300
least he wasn't the Lord 
Commander. 

1251
01:01:24,300 --> 01:01:28,700
This, these two both his kin and
he's Lord Commander. 

1252
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,600
A duty-bound person is going to 
be like, oh, I have failed, I 

1253
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,300
have failed. 
I failed, he would pray a lot. 

1254
01:01:34,300 --> 01:01:37,800
His knees would be be scraped up
from all that. 

1255
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:43,900
Praying, he some knee pads. 
And yeah, real quick wanted to 

1256
01:01:43,900 --> 01:01:48,000
make the point to that. 
However, bad egg on was am on 

1257
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,300
probably Still wouldn't even 
consider the egg on would 

1258
01:01:51,300 --> 01:01:52,800
poison. 
His father maybe not right. 

1259
01:01:54,100 --> 01:01:59,000
Even if he was you know, worldly
cynical enough to consider some 

1260
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,300
of Might poison. 
He's probably sort of consider 

1261
01:02:01,300 --> 01:02:03,500
that his brother would poison 
his dad, you know. 

1262
01:02:03,500 --> 01:02:06,000
It's still like I feel like the 
type of thing. 

1263
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,700
Like what was I supposed to do? 
If I supposed to check the drink

1264
01:02:10,700 --> 01:02:14,400
that my father and brother were 
giving each other to see if his 

1265
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,000
poison like it. 
Let's say he did have, maybe he 

1266
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,900
did one time like how would that
Realistically go over. 

1267
01:02:19,900 --> 01:02:26,800
Yeah, that makes sense. 
The other flip side of viserys 

1268
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,600
who was doing good work in the 
15 months, he was organizing the

1269
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,500
realm really well, now, who 
knows what the long-term would 

1270
01:02:32,500 --> 01:02:35,900
have been, but he was making 
good decisions, he was some said

1271
01:02:35,900 --> 01:02:38,500
that he had it in him to be 
another another Jerry's. 

1272
01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:43,000
Which yeah, not great handling, 
his family, but pretty good with

1273
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:47,200
handling the realm, you know, 
building roads making smart 

1274
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:51,500
choices with Taxation and trade 
things like that stuff that will

1275
01:02:51,500 --> 01:02:54,800
that will make the realm better 
but But that didn't last very 

1276
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,900
long. 
So Hague on becomes king and 

1277
01:02:58,900 --> 01:03:00,900
Nares becomes Queen. 
That's the other side of this. 

1278
01:03:00,900 --> 01:03:02,900
That's real. 
Interesting to consider from a 

1279
01:03:02,900 --> 01:03:06,400
man's point of view. 
His beloved sister who wanted to

1280
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,800
be a Septa. 
She asked their father for 

1281
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,300
permission to become a Septa, 
rather than marrying egg on, or 

1282
01:03:13,300 --> 01:03:18,000
to leave egg on and become a 
Septa was denied that She's 

1283
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,000
Queen now, which means she's 
very powerful, but it's like an 

1284
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:22,700
alicent thing from. 
How's the drinks? 

1285
01:03:22,700 --> 01:03:24,100
Like I made you Queen. 
Isn't that what you wanted? 

1286
01:03:24,100 --> 01:03:26,100
She's like, I don't know, you 
didn't let me decide what I 

1287
01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:28,200
would have wanted. 
I don't think Mary's wanted to 

1288
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,300
be Queen. 
She doesn't want him to be Queen

1289
01:03:30,300 --> 01:03:31,700
to that King. 
Yeah. 

1290
01:03:31,700 --> 01:03:34,900
But maybe she saw it as an 
opportunity to do good like 

1291
01:03:34,900 --> 01:03:36,200
Baylor's. 
Like, well this is my duty. 

1292
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,200
She's Pious, she probably 
believes is the will of the Gods

1293
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,600
aiming as well. 
They might not be happy with the

1294
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,500
will of the Gods was like, well,
we gotta go along with him. 

1295
01:03:44,500 --> 01:03:49,100
Gotta do our duty. 
Speaking of Duty she had become 

1296
01:03:49,100 --> 01:03:51,100
pregnant. 
Again aegon was trying to have 

1297
01:03:51,100 --> 01:03:53,900
more kids. 
Well he succeeded he had lots of

1298
01:03:53,908 --> 01:03:57,400
kids with other women mostly 
though a boy and a girl this 

1299
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,700
time twins again but the boy 
died. 

1300
01:03:59,900 --> 01:04:03,400
The girl did not the girl. 
Got the name Daenerys, this is 

1301
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,200
the same Daenerys. 
Who would later receive the 

1302
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,300
Water Gardens from her husband 
to Prince of Dorne. 

1303
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:12,300
So a man would have grieved with
Nares for the boy and celebrated

1304
01:04:12,300 --> 01:04:15,900
young Daenerys. 
A new niece of his, it's a great

1305
01:04:15,900 --> 01:04:17,600
thing. 
Probably would have done it 

1306
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:21,400
anyway but again, love and Duty 
actually Collide again here in a

1307
01:04:21,408 --> 01:04:24,500
good way. 
Because egg on her, I wasn't 

1308
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,800
very sympathetic but I didn't 
really have kind words to offer 

1309
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:31,700
a grief about The Lost Child. 
Probably didn't celebrate the 

1310
01:04:31,700 --> 01:04:33,600
daughter all that much. 
Either me was like, yes, I'm 

1311
01:04:33,607 --> 01:04:35,800
going to marry her off someday 
or who knows? 

1312
01:04:36,500 --> 01:04:38,300
This is nothing good about 
aegon. 

1313
01:04:38,300 --> 01:04:43,100
So also, he was distracted 
because a fortnight later. 

1314
01:04:43,100 --> 01:04:45,900
Another one of his bastards was 
born, so he had two kids in a 

1315
01:04:45,908 --> 01:04:46,700
short span. 
Time. 

1316
01:04:46,700 --> 01:04:48,700
He's probably just immediately 
moves on to check that one out. 

1317
01:04:48,700 --> 01:04:50,500
And he's more into this woman 
than his wife. 

1318
01:04:50,500 --> 01:04:53,100
Barbara Bracken, who was also 
locked up in the made involved, 

1319
01:04:53,100 --> 01:04:57,500
by the way, she was released at 
the same time as the other women

1320
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:02,300
and this child Igor Rivers. 
The name remember that name, 

1321
01:05:02,300 --> 01:05:04,500
Sean Hagar Rivers? 
That's bittersteel. 

1322
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:05,900
Yeah. 
Do you knew that? 

1323
01:05:05,900 --> 01:05:08,700
I'm learning? 
Yes, didn't know that, cool. 

1324
01:05:08,700 --> 01:05:11,900
So that's a pretty big deal 
because as we said aegon's like 

1325
01:05:12,100 --> 01:05:15,200
tastes for women, started to 
climb the ladder in terms of 

1326
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:19,300
rank and he having lots of like 
lower born bastards, which 

1327
01:05:19,300 --> 01:05:21,400
doesn't make them worse, 
obviously, but it makes them 

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less problematic in terms of 
succession crisis issues and 

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things like that. 
This one Igor Rivers, pretty big

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problem for a number of ways 
just because of his existence 

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and later because of his 
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pretty low cost option. 
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cheapest things they have on 
their website mostly I've been 

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pitching the higher end stuff 
but this week I wanted to pitch 

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something that's very useful but
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balance things out a bit. 
This is really useful. 

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I mean a cheap way to just brush
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Without having to do a lot of 
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you, like there, right there, 
right there, right there, brush 

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there a little better. 
It'll change your patterns and 

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you'll see a difference over the
long term maybe to one of those 

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tablets again a few weeks later 
and find hey I did a good job, 

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huh? 
Like you see those get used 

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sometimes in dentist's office. 
I've had them given to me before

1362
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just while I'm there because 
they want to point to you. 

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They want to show to you like 
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missing, that's why they have 
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So they can't just say you need 

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to brush better over here, but 
if they can show It to you 

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visually. 
It's a lot easier to be like 

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okay I get it. 
I can see the build-up. 

1369
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I can see the plaque and it's 
just answered a indifference to 

1370
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the like, you know, about no 
being right-handed or something.

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If you brush differently and 
there's more cavities on one 

1372
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side than the other or whatever,
there's some studies on that's 

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like that's a good theory. 
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Check it out. 
I seye introduced to us a few 

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weeks ago. 
Her awesome. 

1379
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Episode Searcher. 
Reintroduced I should say 

1380
01:07:52,500 --> 01:07:54,900
because she had made one before,
but this is sort of a new 

1381
01:07:54,900 --> 01:07:57,200
version of it beefed-up version.
Its new. 

1382
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:01,700
Maybe we'll call it episode 
search or 2.0 and it's so nice, 

1383
01:08:01,700 --> 01:08:05,000
it's available. 
If you are a subscriber through 

1384
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,500
patreon and if you are a 
subscriber through Spotify, you 

1385
01:08:08,500 --> 01:08:10,800
can email us and we'll give you 
the link to it. 

1386
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,800
It's pretty spectacular because 
our catalog has grown. 

1387
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:15,900
So big, we're always mentioning 
up. 

1388
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,800
Us Odes for y'all to check out 
an old episodes we've done in 

1389
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:24,100
the past but frankly podcast 
Platforms in Youtube it'll have 

1390
01:08:24,100 --> 01:08:26,899
that haven't developed a great 
way to search back catalogs, 

1391
01:08:26,899 --> 01:08:29,700
kind of a new problem. 
Neither of these sites have 

1392
01:08:29,700 --> 01:08:33,600
existed that long in the scheme 
of things like 25 years ago 

1393
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:34,899
does, did you give him even 
exist? 

1394
01:08:34,899 --> 01:08:36,000
25 years ago? 
I'm not sure. 

1395
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,100
They may have been pretty new. 
I may have been right when they 

1396
01:08:38,100 --> 01:08:40,000
were new but you can see what I 
mean. 

1397
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:44,000
Like, most YouTube channels 
don't have a big back catalog, 

1398
01:08:44,100 --> 01:08:46,300
but the every year that goes by 
this is because Bigger and 

1399
01:08:46,300 --> 01:08:49,200
bigger problem. 
So she I took on ourself solve 

1400
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,300
this problem, at least for our 
listeners. 

1401
01:08:51,300 --> 01:08:54,500
It doesn't help other shows, you
can't search Gangsta loves 

1402
01:08:54,500 --> 01:08:56,899
internet. 
You can't search other shows on 

1403
01:08:56,899 --> 01:09:00,100
this episode's Archer. 
It's how only but you can search

1404
01:09:00,100 --> 01:09:03,600
by a number of ways number of 
different features that this 

1405
01:09:03,700 --> 01:09:06,399
episode might have. 
Whether it's video only, whether

1406
01:09:06,399 --> 01:09:10,200
it's House history where there's
a lot of different tags and 

1407
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,300
categories. 
Did I explain that pretty? 

1408
01:09:13,300 --> 01:09:15,700
Well a shed and I leave me out. 
Yeah, you did. 

1409
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,000
Cool, it's good. 
Well, Ash a is great at that and

1410
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,399
I think you all should check it 
out if you want to take a look, 

1411
01:09:21,399 --> 01:09:23,399
maybe some episode. 
You didn't even know you missed.

1412
01:09:23,899 --> 01:09:25,899
Yeah. 
I would just want to say real 

1413
01:09:25,899 --> 01:09:27,300
quick. 
It how much I feel? 

1414
01:09:27,300 --> 01:09:30,200
It's like a game changer for 
something like a search of iron.

1415
01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:36,899
What's it is? 
They're tired and I can't 

1416
01:09:36,899 --> 01:09:39,399
imagine you guys who read this 
book, you know? 

1417
01:09:39,399 --> 01:09:44,100
Like I don't know, 10, 20 years 
ago when you had like an idea if

1418
01:09:44,100 --> 01:09:46,600
you want to like think about 
what Are you did in? 

1419
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:50,200
This is a pointer however, time,
how many times do I've mentioned

1420
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,200
the moon? 
You know, just still looking 

1421
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,800
going down rabbit holes when you
just had to like search through 

1422
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,300
all the physical pages of. 
But I just can't imagine what I 

1423
01:09:59,300 --> 01:10:01,000
did. 
I had he copies I, when I would 

1424
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,600
sit down to write an episode, I 
would first thing I'd do is I'd 

1425
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,700
open up again with Thrones open 
up Clash of Kings. 

1426
01:10:05,900 --> 01:10:08,100
Open up, a storm swords, open up
A Feast for Crows hundred 

1427
01:10:08,100 --> 01:10:09,600
interactions. 
And then when I would search for

1428
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,400
one out of search, all five of 
them and then eventually the 

1429
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,000
world of Ice and Fire was added 
to that and then so on and so 

1430
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,100
forth. 
Yeah. 

1431
01:10:16,100 --> 01:10:20,600
But anyway, so I just I feel 
like me and newer people and 

1432
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,400
even people who were doing it 
before we've gotten a 

1433
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:26,500
transition, it's understand how 
valuable it is to quickly access

1434
01:10:26,500 --> 01:10:29,600
all of their information. 
Well, at this point, you know, I

1435
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,400
we've got more content than the 
books themselves by far. 

1436
01:10:33,500 --> 01:10:34,200
Right. 
Oh yeah. 

1437
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:37,100
And so, it's got to be a 
valuable thing to it of 

1438
01:10:37,100 --> 01:10:40,700
similarly search, our content, 
and it'll be working process to 

1439
01:10:40,700 --> 01:10:44,900
get everything tagged or log of 
the dialogue that we've had to 

1440
01:10:44,900 --> 01:10:47,500
be able to search whatever. 
But I think that's the idea that

1441
01:10:47,500 --> 01:10:49,400
to be able to search our content
and it's same way. 

1442
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:50,900
You could search those books. 
Yes. 

1443
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:54,200
Figure out all the thoughts 
we've ever had on, how many 

1444
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,200
times George do use the word 
moon, or whatever. 

1445
01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:00,400
How many table quartered 
etcetera or when, if you about 

1446
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,000
last week, because I think it 
was last week, Aziz was like, 

1447
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:07,900
oh, I think that idea about them
seeing about Danny and the fire 

1448
01:11:07,900 --> 01:11:09,600
is great. 
And the bald thing and I was 

1449
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,900
like, you know, I'm pretty sure 
we've said that before that's 

1450
01:11:12,900 --> 01:11:14,700
come up before. 
Yeah, so we can find all the 

1451
01:11:14,700 --> 01:11:16,500
times it's come up here. 
Right on. 

1452
01:11:16,500 --> 01:11:20,100
So it's an issue that's ongoing 
that a share has done a lot to 

1453
01:11:20,100 --> 01:11:23,100
help solve and we will continue 
to solve it over the years and 

1454
01:11:23,100 --> 01:11:26,100
at least until this podcast 
platforms and YouTube. 

1455
01:11:26,100 --> 01:11:28,100
Give us a built-in way to handle
it. 

1456
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,100
A couple people more than a 
couple people. 

1457
01:11:31,100 --> 01:11:35,700
Actually several mothers wrote 
in, on the issue of Hague on 

1458
01:11:35,900 --> 01:11:37,800
beating his brother at the 
dragon egg. 

1459
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,000
So this is great. 
I love this feedback, our good 

1460
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:42,800
friend, one of my favorite 
people, Christina deals. 

1461
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,300
Dale wrote. 
It's a bit undirected but that 

1462
01:11:45,300 --> 01:11:48,600
strength is Referring to who her
toddler who is about two years 

1463
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,800
old named Teddy. 
Basically the point is that she 

1464
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,300
made is he's probably strong 
enough to lift that Dragon's 

1465
01:11:53,300 --> 01:11:54,400
egg. 
Although we don't actually know 

1466
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,300
how heavy a dragon's egg is 
aiming. 

1467
01:11:56,300 --> 01:11:59,400
It properly might be difficult 
but the actual lifting, he could

1468
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:03,100
be can handle that and Caddo 
Vives, my favorite comment here,

1469
01:12:03,300 --> 01:12:05,500
says never underestimate the two
years old. 

1470
01:12:05,500 --> 01:12:08,300
I once left the room for 20 
seconds maximum and when I came 

1471
01:12:08,300 --> 01:12:11,600
back my not yet, two-year-old 
son was carrying his newborn 

1472
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,200
sister across the room holding 
her at the neck like a kitten. 

1473
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:19,800
Yikes. 
I said, wow, yeah. 

1474
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,500
Okay, I guess that's why they 
say, don't leave kids all alone,

1475
01:12:22,500 --> 01:12:26,500
even for a second, because yeah,
whoa, yeah, I shout out to 

1476
01:12:26,508 --> 01:12:29,200
parents because, yeah, if you're
gonna be worried about some like

1477
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,800
that happening, when would you 
ever get a minute to take a nap?

1478
01:12:32,900 --> 01:12:38,500
I mean, that she's, I polled our
Spotify listeners, which is a 

1479
01:12:38,500 --> 01:12:41,600
small subset of listeners. 
I eventually will bring it out 

1480
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:44,000
to pull Twitter as well because 
it's a much larger group you and

1481
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,800
maybe even Facebook, just to see
what y'all thought. 

1482
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:49,000
Got a man in Aries, whether they
had a romantic relationship or 

1483
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:50,100
not. 
I'm a little surprised because 

1484
01:12:50,100 --> 01:12:53,700
more of you said, yes to know, I
thought they would be more 

1485
01:12:53,700 --> 01:12:55,200
knows. 
But how should I ask the 

1486
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,000
question where things romantic 
between Amon and Aries? 

1487
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,700
Yeah, we're things romantic 
between a man and Aries. 

1488
01:13:01,300 --> 01:13:01,900
A mask? 
Yes. 

1489
01:13:01,900 --> 01:13:04,600
Or no? 
And Paul in the Utah actually 

1490
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:06,400
wrote it. 
Like, where did they have a 

1491
01:13:06,407 --> 01:13:07,700
romantic relationship? 
Yes, a bit. 

1492
01:13:07,700 --> 01:13:08,900
Like Jaime. 
Cersei are no. 

1493
01:13:08,900 --> 01:13:12,200
They didn't a bit like Marjorie 
and loras guilty. 

1494
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,200
Undertaker says, was Reina 
Targaryen, the one who became a 

1495
01:13:14,208 --> 01:13:16,000
step to at court. 
At this time, I can see her 

1496
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,000
being tied with a man in Mary's 
as well. 

1497
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:22,900
Yes, absolutely good call Amon 
nerys and young, Darren and 

1498
01:13:22,900 --> 01:13:27,200
Rana, who was the middle sister 
of Dana, Rayna and Elena. 

1499
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,800
She did become a Septa and so, 
yeah, she would have definitely 

1500
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,400
been on board. 
And in this group, most likely, 

1501
01:13:33,500 --> 01:13:35,200
at least agree with a lot of 
their decisions. 

1502
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,700
Anyway, if she wasn't fully on 
board, but she was young. 

1503
01:13:37,900 --> 01:13:41,300
So I don't suppose she would 
have been like a loud voice at 

1504
01:13:41,300 --> 01:13:45,500
court, but would have been there
and supportive and maybe she's 

1505
01:13:45,500 --> 01:13:47,400
louder. 
I think but reports are that she

1506
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:50,400
was kind of quiet and it's 
another example of what I said 

1507
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:54,600
that in addition to this kind of
prominent name, God Squad, the 

1508
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:57,600
people around them would have 
been in this same sphere and of 

1509
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:58,300
a mind, you know. 
Yeah. 

1510
01:13:58,300 --> 01:14:00,200
I mean there's a bait that would
have permeated other 

1511
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,300
institutions, the raising of a 
next generation of kids. 

1512
01:14:03,300 --> 01:14:05,900
The policy set in a place that 
would have gone on for a 

1513
01:14:05,907 --> 01:14:09,000
generation or more Etc. 
No matter how beloved or hated 

1514
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:12,400
the person at the top is people 
their behavior. 

1515
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,400
Whatever behaviors. 
They're exhibiting will be 

1516
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,000
justified some people certain 
Action of population, will feel 

1517
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:18,500
more justified in Behaving a 
certain way. 

1518
01:14:18,500 --> 01:14:21,600
If that leader is doing the same
thing, we've seen that in the 

1519
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,500
real world beware. 
Yeah, we've seen that the real 

1520
01:14:23,500 --> 01:14:24,400
world and that would be 
happening here. 

1521
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,900
Like look because, yeah, look 
what happens with egg on becomes

1522
01:14:26,900 --> 01:14:28,700
king. 
We're about to get to. 

1523
01:14:28,700 --> 01:14:33,500
He all the court becomes a place
of lickspittles and corrupt 

1524
01:14:33,500 --> 01:14:35,600
individuals. 
And yeah, and not a place of 

1525
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,700
piety and bravery is, yeah, yep,
definitely true. 

1526
01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,600
Another shout out to Michael, 
Clarke, felt his movie is now 

1527
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:46,600
out. 
Yes, it's only about 37 minutes.

1528
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:52,700
It is funny as depth it is 
called Saint Lucy's church for 

1529
01:14:52,700 --> 01:14:55,100
women Raised by Wolves. 
First comes along and keep 

1530
01:14:55,100 --> 01:14:58,300
forgetting the full Title. 
I school school for Wayward goal

1531
01:14:58,300 --> 01:15:01,500
for girls Raised by Wolves. 
Yeah, it's a great title but 

1532
01:15:01,500 --> 01:15:04,000
hard to remember exactly the 
wording. 

1533
01:15:06,100 --> 01:15:09,100
You can also look for it on our 
Facebook group adjuster will be 

1534
01:15:09,108 --> 01:15:12,100
sharing it around social media. 
So anywhere you follow us, you 

1535
01:15:12,100 --> 01:15:15,000
should be to find the link by 
the Whether you know, Michael or

1536
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,900
felt or not makes a bunch of 
maps, he does a bunch of stuff, 

1537
01:15:17,900 --> 01:15:19,500
the in general. 
But, you know, we kind of 

1538
01:15:19,500 --> 01:15:21,200
connected through him to the 
maps you make. 

1539
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,800
So the world of Martin's world 
and he also has a video and 

1540
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,400
maybe multiple we definitely 
have one on the reach where it 

1541
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,700
kind of goes around as map at 
the reach and talks about the 

1542
01:15:29,708 --> 01:15:31,800
different locations and 
characters and everything he 

1543
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:34,400
involved just. 
When I finished the short film, 

1544
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,700
it just went to that next like. 
Well this is good too. 

1545
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:38,800
Ha ha ha. 
Hell, yeah. 

1546
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,000
Real quick, I want to backtrack 
slightly as well and something 

1547
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:43,800
else I said not to change. 
It. 

1548
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:45,600
But to add a little detail, 
Shawn you asked about the 

1549
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,600
kingsguard in the era that a man
was born and I said, we didn't 

1550
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:52,600
know much about it. 
We do have names that's mostly 

1551
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,000
all we have, but it's a little 
more than that. 

1552
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:55,500
So, let me go through this real 
quick. 

1553
01:15:55,700 --> 01:16:00,500
During the Regency of egg on the
third, he named sir Robyn, 

1554
01:16:00,500 --> 01:16:02,500
Massey, and Sir, Robert Darkman 
to the kingsguard. 

1555
01:16:02,500 --> 01:16:06,300
But they were unnamed because 
his hand of the King was like, 

1556
01:16:06,300 --> 01:16:08,900
no, you're not of age yet, and I
decide who you're in, your 

1557
01:16:08,900 --> 01:16:12,600
kingsguard are, so maybe he 
renamed them later after he 

1558
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,700
became of age, there's 
Indication he did because not a 

1559
01:16:15,708 --> 01:16:17,800
lot of time would have passed, 
but on the other hand, they're 

1560
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,600
just made out of bed, space. 
You need someone to die first 

1561
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,400
and maybe they're just wasn't. 
There wasn't a lot of work going

1562
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:25,400
on at this time Sir Edmund 
Warrick sir, Denis Whitfield and

1563
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:29,500
Sir Agra more Cobb were named 
after the secret Siege of 135 

1564
01:16:29,900 --> 01:16:32,300
Sean's like secret Siege you 
say, okay. 

1565
01:16:32,300 --> 01:16:33,800
Yeah. 
As long as this episode is gonna

1566
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,100
be I don't have time to explain 
the secret Siege but it was 

1567
01:16:36,100 --> 01:16:38,800
something that happened during 
the Regency and with the lice 

1568
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,400
any and standoffish Shadow and 
all this cool stuff. 

1569
01:16:41,500 --> 01:16:44,700
But what's funny about these 
guys is Workhouse Whitfield 

1570
01:16:44,700 --> 01:16:46,300
House Cobb, never heard any of 
those. 

1571
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:48,500
And we do know the Lord 
Commander was Sean. 

1572
01:16:48,500 --> 01:16:51,800
It was Raynard Ruskin. 
Also Ruskin, never heard of that

1573
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,500
either. 
So he was promoted to Lord 

1574
01:16:54,500 --> 01:16:56,800
Commander after the secrecy. 
So he was in the King's Guard 

1575
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,200
during the secret Siege and took
the place of Marston water as I 

1576
01:17:00,208 --> 01:17:01,900
think. 
And any number of them could 

1577
01:17:01,900 --> 01:17:06,400
have been around when Amon was 
joined and 153, since they were 

1578
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:08,400
probably on the younger side, 
some of them. 

1579
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,400
At least some of them would have
been any of them. 

1580
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,000
Could have been. 
The one we theorized was a man's

1581
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,000
favorite. 
Or the one that he looked up to 

1582
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,200
or maybe practice with the most.
Any of those guys maybe he took 

1583
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:19,900
one of their places when they 
died. 

1584
01:17:19,900 --> 01:17:22,700
One of them died, eventually, 
one of them or multiples could 

1585
01:17:22,700 --> 01:17:26,000
have been in the conquest of 
Dorne, still, 22 years later and

1586
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:30,100
maybe died or was one of the 
ones to die in the Ambush, or 

1587
01:17:30,100 --> 01:17:32,700
maybe even one of the ones, the 
one that surrendered or one of 

1588
01:17:32,700 --> 01:17:34,100
the ones that survived even 
possible. 

1589
01:17:34,100 --> 01:17:36,600
One of them survived sir, 
Raynard had to have died by 

1590
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,200
Baylor's rain, though, because 
Lord Commander. 

1591
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,800
Clearly had to have died for a 
man to take that spot. 

1592
01:17:42,100 --> 01:17:44,500
We also know of a guy named sir 
Joffrey Staunton who was in The 

1593
01:17:44,500 --> 01:17:50,000
King's Garden, 155. 
But other than him threatening a

1594
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,400
man that aegon's wife slept 
with, we don't know anything 

1595
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,200
about him. 
So sounds like he was one of the

1596
01:17:55,208 --> 01:17:57,500
ones that aegon kept with him 
because he was willing to be 

1597
01:17:57,500 --> 01:17:58,200
aegon's. 
Bully. 

1598
01:17:58,900 --> 01:18:01,200
Did you say Staunton? 
Yeah, that's a crown Crown. 

1599
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,000
Yeah, house window. 
Otherwise house, man. 

1600
01:18:03,500 --> 01:18:08,400
That's when the crown is three. 
Four, four houses that we never 

1601
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,300
have ever heard, of course. 
That's yeah. 

1602
01:18:10,300 --> 01:18:12,800
Interesting variant. 
Yeah, you wonder if that was by 

1603
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,300
Design to keep certain powerful 
houses, out of the way or to 

1604
01:18:16,300 --> 01:18:18,300
keep them. 
More lowborn to make them more 

1605
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,700
who knows there's a lot of 
intriguing and maneuvering in 

1606
01:18:21,700 --> 01:18:23,300
that era. 
It is tempting to talk about but

1607
01:18:23,300 --> 01:18:24,900
we have so much to cover today. 
Welcome back to it. 

1608
01:18:25,100 --> 01:18:27,300
Nina also mentions long. 
Tom kha stain. 

1609
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:32,500
There was a cost Dane. 
He died he served for 60 years 

1610
01:18:32,900 --> 01:18:39,300
and we don't hear of him in this
third century and a 60 years is 

1611
01:18:39,300 --> 01:18:40,600
that covered. 
So he may have lived in the 

1612
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,800
second century of Targaryen 
rule, which would have have six 

1613
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,600
serving for 60 years. 
It's hard to squeeze that in. 

1614
01:18:46,700 --> 01:18:49,600
And so he may have been in this 
kingsguard in this area as well.

1615
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,200
And by the way, that is a 
reference to the author Thomas 

1616
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:54,700
cost name, who is a influence on
George. 

1617
01:18:56,300 --> 01:19:00,400
Let's talk about the Ascension 
of the Unworthy brother, aegon 

1618
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:04,200
became king and 172 and his 
appetite for women somewhat 

1619
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,600
checked by his father quickly, 
got out of hand to new heights 

1620
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,300
of depravity. 
He had his famous nine 

1621
01:19:09,300 --> 01:19:12,800
Mistresses, which were not all 
the same time but he did have 

1622
01:19:13,300 --> 01:19:17,400
multiple women at the same time 
in general, literally hundreds 

1623
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,400
of other unnamed partners. 
He was the Wilt Chamberlain of 

1624
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:24,500
his of Targaryen Kings and his a
Terrain for about 12 years. 

1625
01:19:24,700 --> 01:19:28,000
It's a lot of depravity. 
Barristan mentions that in the 

1626
01:19:28,008 --> 01:19:30,200
past Kings of dispatch 
kingsguard to serve and defend 

1627
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,400
their Mistresses and bastards. 
But there's not enough 

1628
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,500
kingsguard to cover, all his 
mistress isn't mastered. 

1629
01:19:36,500 --> 01:19:40,500
So what do you do here? 
It's one of the best guard yeah 

1630
01:19:40,500 --> 01:19:43,100
and this is maybe a way for him 
to shame his brother. 

1631
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:47,100
Send a man to guard one of his 
Mistresses or one of those 

1632
01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:52,500
bastards instead of The trueborn
Offspring or his sister who is 

1633
01:19:52,500 --> 01:19:54,200
being shamed by all these 
Affairs. 

1634
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:58,400
So we know for sure Sure, Hague 
on tried to embarrass his 

1635
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,500
brother and sister, here's a 
one-liner quote to spell that 

1636
01:20:01,500 --> 01:20:03,700
out in plain English. 
Hey guns, resentment of his 

1637
01:20:03,700 --> 01:20:06,600
Noble celebrated brother was 
plain to all for the king 

1638
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,500
Delights did in sliding Amon and
Nares. 

1639
01:20:08,500 --> 01:20:10,600
Both at every turn, it's not 
even a theory. 

1640
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,500
Apparently, it's just something 
he did a lot, but the slice 

1641
01:20:13,500 --> 01:20:15,700
Nares were more well-known. 
Because they came in the form of

1642
01:20:15,700 --> 01:20:18,800
these Mistresses and children. 
They stick out in the historical

1643
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,600
record more. 
There's actual people rather 

1644
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,900
than just passing comments here 
and there or other things like 

1645
01:20:23,900 --> 01:20:25,700
that. 
And a man could do very little, 

1646
01:20:25,700 --> 01:20:28,300
but Pick up which of course 
didn't do anything at all to 

1647
01:20:28,300 --> 01:20:31,900
stop. 
The Unworthy Nares, went on, her

1648
01:20:31,900 --> 01:20:35,600
death bed again, early on in 
this rain and her Reign, and her

1649
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,300
brothers, ran her, and her 
brothers ran, and this caused a 

1650
01:20:38,300 --> 01:20:42,300
drama because the bracken's 
gambled that she was going to 

1651
01:20:42,308 --> 01:20:45,000
die and the bracken's work Chief
at court. 

1652
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:49,500
At this time, aegon had made a 
Bracken, his hand and his number

1653
01:20:49,500 --> 01:20:51,800
one, mistress was the same 
Barbara Bracken who had already 

1654
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,900
delivered. 
Bittersteel obviously, that 

1655
01:20:53,900 --> 01:20:55,900
wasn't his name yet. 
He wasn't bitter. 

1656
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,800
At age one, although there were 
already things for him to be 

1657
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:03,100
bitter about even then. 
And it said that because of the 

1658
01:21:03,100 --> 01:21:05,800
fall of the pushback on this 
because they tried to basically 

1659
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:12,000
get egg on to name Young egg or 
as his new are so set dare on a 

1660
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,800
side based on these parentage 
rumors that were getting started

1661
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:18,000
and we're being pushed around 
and it backfired pretty badly 

1662
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:22,900
when aerys recovered, a lot of 
the Court including Darren and a

1663
01:21:22,900 --> 01:21:24,800
man himself. 
A man, the Dragon Knight back 

1664
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:28,300
sources, his faction. 
Of individuals that are pushing 

1665
01:21:28,300 --> 01:21:31,000
the Brackins back. 
It got bad enough that aegon 

1666
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,900
sent Barbara away sent egg or 
two. 

1667
01:21:34,900 --> 01:21:39,600
They weren't sent back to 
Stonehedge and pretty sure he 

1668
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:45,700
fired his hand, then as well. 
And that led to the ascent as 

1669
01:21:45,700 --> 01:21:50,800
Mistress of Missy Blackwood, who
was the one mistress everyone 

1670
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,900
seemed to like, she was popular.
She was nice. 

1671
01:21:54,300 --> 01:21:56,300
She was friendly nerys liked 
her. 

1672
01:21:56,900 --> 01:21:58,800
So there you go. 
Like she's a mistress. 

1673
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:02,800
But even there, he's lecture 
nerys, lecture, then that says, 

1674
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,400
a ton about her personality 
Heyman liked her too, maybe in 

1675
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:10,000
part because Nares kind of gave 
him permission to like her. 

1676
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,600
You know, because I think if she
didn't like him her like her, a 

1677
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:16,500
man would have been dutifully 
distant as well. 

1678
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,300
But he may have wanted to like 
her too, because she's just 

1679
01:22:19,300 --> 01:22:23,300
seems like very likable person. 
And but she was, she was around 

1680
01:22:23,300 --> 01:22:29,200
for five years and she gave 
birth to what Raven, and he did 

1681
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,600
not get kicked away from court. 
Bloodraven, was apparently 

1682
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,700
raised at court, at least for a 
lot of it, this topic is more 

1683
01:22:34,700 --> 01:22:37,700
covered in our actual aegon, the
Unworthy episode heyman's 

1684
01:22:37,700 --> 01:22:41,000
involvement a lot of this is 
certainly there but it's not 

1685
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:43,100
tangible. 
Exactly other than we would be 

1686
01:22:43,100 --> 01:22:45,700
pretty clear about him. 
Following areas his lead on a 

1687
01:22:45,700 --> 01:22:49,100
lot of things and Nerys and 
Darren especially so we don't 

1688
01:22:49,100 --> 01:22:50,700
hear about Melissa's father 
either. 

1689
01:22:50,900 --> 01:22:54,100
Well, so it's not a similar case
of where the Brackins are just 

1690
01:22:54,100 --> 01:22:55,400
trying to make in routes 
everywhere. 

1691
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:59,200
You got the mistress, you've got
the child and you get the father

1692
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,800
being handed the king but we is 
no word that Melissa's father 

1693
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,900
was handed the king so that 
probably Tamp down the political

1694
01:23:05,900 --> 01:23:08,300
Intrigue, which paved the way 
for more, like regular 

1695
01:23:08,300 --> 01:23:11,600
friendships because there wasn't
this shadow of power hanging 

1696
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:15,600
over all these things. 
One after another I do Dynamic 

1697
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:19,700
involved with It at this point 
the fact that the king just has 

1698
01:23:19,700 --> 01:23:22,400
a bunch of Mistresses and 
bastards, it's like, just just 

1699
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,700
the way of things now. 
And so, if Melissa and others, 

1700
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,900
inner end of this scenario, with
that understanding, they might 

1701
01:23:28,900 --> 01:23:31,300
handle it differently, rather, 
than being secretive, or 

1702
01:23:31,300 --> 01:23:34,400
conniving, she just accept it 
for what it is, makes the best 

1703
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,600
of it is friendly with everyone.
Doesn't angle for power. 

1704
01:23:37,700 --> 01:23:41,900
I can imagine someone finding a 
way to make this, go easier than

1705
01:23:41,900 --> 01:23:45,900
other people having a past like 
her same person, her character, 

1706
01:23:45,900 --> 01:23:48,100
whatever. 
The first mistress mistress 

1707
01:23:48,100 --> 01:23:50,400
still might not have been like 
the way she ended up being at 

1708
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,700
this point, right? 
Yeah, it's really clever Miss. 

1709
01:23:52,700 --> 01:23:55,800
Melissa Blackwood is a beloved 
character about whom very little

1710
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:57,300
is known because of stuff like 
this. 

1711
01:23:57,300 --> 01:24:00,000
I guess she found a way to be 
beloved in a spot where you're 

1712
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,200
almost always hated. 
Like, you just just the nature 

1713
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,000
of your involvement. 
This the nature of your place at

1714
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:08,500
court is is hard to deal with, 
is hard to like she's attached 

1715
01:24:08,500 --> 01:24:10,400
to that guy, to the worst 
possible, man? 

1716
01:24:10,500 --> 01:24:12,800
You know, but somehow she Rose 
above that. 

1717
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,200
It's really, really, really 
amazing. 

1718
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,200
There's a statue of her. 
I'd Raven Tree haul. 

1719
01:24:16,300 --> 01:24:17,600
Yeah. 
Yeah, interesting. 

1720
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:21,100
Yeah, Darrin's parents, wait, 
who built that statue? 

1721
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,200
Was a bloodraven because that 
says, takes away a little bit of

1722
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:29,400
the meaning for us. 
I forgot lady Lozier Adagio 

1723
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:31,600
sends a Super Chat, says, I'm 
late, but I'm here. 

1724
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:33,700
Hashtag house beard. 
Well, thank you. 

1725
01:24:34,500 --> 01:24:36,700
We appreciate that. 
And we're glad you're here and 

1726
01:24:36,700 --> 01:24:38,300
sort of the restaurant been 
don't shave. 

1727
01:24:38,500 --> 01:24:41,800
Yeah. 
So as we've said a few times and

1728
01:24:41,808 --> 01:24:44,500
has a lot of you know, already a
king aegon did not like his son 

1729
01:24:44,500 --> 01:24:48,400
and Heir dare on who was more 
like bail or without the crazy. 

1730
01:24:49,300 --> 01:24:50,600
And he certainly wasn't like his
father. 

1731
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,800
He didn't sleep around. 
He was Pious and he wasn't 

1732
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,800
warlike. 
So he was probably more like 

1733
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,000
Prince Haman other than not 
being good with a sword. 

1734
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,200
He had like a yeah, he wasn't 
built like a warrior. 

1735
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:02,900
He things like a hill like a 
scholar. 

1736
01:25:03,300 --> 01:25:05,700
The king tried a few things over
the years to disown him. 

1737
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,200
And since he didn't have any 
other trueborn Sons, he couldn't

1738
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,100
just pass over him for another 
trip. 

1739
01:25:10,300 --> 01:25:12,600
Sun which would have been that 
might have actually work. 

1740
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:14,800
You might have been able to pull
that off but he didn't have 

1741
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:18,700
another trueborn son so he kept 
threatening to legitimize one of

1742
01:25:18,700 --> 01:25:20,800
his bastard Sons. 
Now people often make the 

1743
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:24,100
mistake that of thinking he was 
going to legitimize Damon first,

1744
01:25:24,500 --> 01:25:30,500
but it wasn't yet declared that 
Damon was a gun son Dana. 

1745
01:25:30,500 --> 01:25:33,100
The defiant had kept that as 
still had kept that a secret to 

1746
01:25:33,100 --> 01:25:34,600
this point, so they'll the 
bastard. 

1747
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:36,700
He was referring to his egg or 
Rivers is better steel. 

1748
01:25:36,700 --> 01:25:38,700
That's the one. 
He was threatening to make his 

1749
01:25:38,700 --> 01:25:41,800
new air and that would have been
Ben Civil War, obviously, if 

1750
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:44,300
that had happened because 
whatever did happen later, the 

1751
01:25:44,300 --> 01:25:47,000
blackfyre Rebellion is, I mean, 
you know, but when the black 

1752
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:50,400
fires were but Dave's, the King 
used, a cat's paw to make an 

1753
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,100
accusation against, not only his
wife, but his brother Eamonn, he

1754
01:25:53,100 --> 01:25:56,300
tried to throw them, both under 
the proverbial bus, the Valyrian

1755
01:25:56,300 --> 01:25:59,400
steel bus as it were a man named
sir more Gil. 

1756
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:02,600
A night of house haste Wick, a 
stick is of similar rank to 

1757
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,300
Staunton, their Crown lands 
houses that are pretty nearby. 

1758
01:26:05,300 --> 01:26:09,500
So the ones that are ostensibly 
most loyal to the iron throne 

1759
01:26:10,700 --> 01:26:15,800
Accused Queen areas of adultery 
in open court, and declared that

1760
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:19,300
her lover was aimin. 
This of course, is treasonous. 

1761
01:26:19,300 --> 01:26:21,300
That's treason, very 
straightforward. 

1762
01:26:21,500 --> 01:26:24,600
A man, of course, was like, 
trial by combat. 

1763
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:28,200
Yo, that's some place. 
I'm very confident in my ability

1764
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:30,400
for Marco must have been pretty 
good too. 

1765
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:33,400
Because, I mean, he had to see 
this coming. 

1766
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,600
The trolley all trial that come.
I didn't think of that. 

1767
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:37,700
Damn it. 
What a fool I am for making this

1768
01:26:37,700 --> 01:26:38,800
accusation. 
He, of course. 

1769
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:43,200
They knew it would lead to This 
which is a little odd because 

1770
01:26:43,300 --> 01:26:45,400
the Dagon think more Gil would 
win. 

1771
01:26:45,900 --> 01:26:48,500
Maybe he did, maybe Morgan was 
really good, but he didn't win 

1772
01:26:48,500 --> 01:26:52,200
the dragonknight one and it 
backfired worse than egg on may 

1773
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:55,600
have fought because it just 
increased his Legend Made A man 

1774
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,100
even more heroic. 
The story is still told. 

1775
01:26:58,100 --> 01:27:00,800
Now here's an example of that 
story. 

1776
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:04,100
Still being told now Cersei and 
Tina Merriweather discussing, a 

1777
01:27:04,100 --> 01:27:06,600
familiar accusation of 
infidelity. 

1778
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:11,300
Bringing us back to loras and 
Marjorie quote This trial, she 

1779
01:27:11,300 --> 01:27:14,900
said in a quiet voice, what if 
Marjorie demands are her guilty 

1780
01:27:14,900 --> 01:27:18,900
or innocent be determined by 
wager of battle, a smile brush, 

1781
01:27:18,900 --> 01:27:23,100
circe's lips, as Queen, her 
honor must be defended by a 

1782
01:27:23,100 --> 01:27:26,000
knight of the kingsguard. 
Why every child in? 

1783
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:29,200
Westeros knows how Prince aemon,
the dragonknight championed his 

1784
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:34,300
sister, Queen Mary's against are
more girls accusations with Ser 

1785
01:27:34,300 --> 01:27:36,900
loras. 
So Gravely, wounded though, I 

1786
01:27:36,900 --> 01:27:40,500
fear Prince eamon's part, Must 
Fall to one of his As sworn 

1787
01:27:40,500 --> 01:27:44,700
Brothers, she Shrugged, who 
though Sera reasons? 

1788
01:27:44,700 --> 01:27:46,900
Their bail on are far away and 
Dorne. 

1789
01:27:47,100 --> 01:27:51,200
Jamie is off at riverrun and 
Sarah, Osmond is the brother of 

1790
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:55,000
the man accusing her. 
Which leaves only oh dear, 

1791
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,200
Horace blunt and Meryn trant's. 
Ladies Hannah left. 

1792
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:02,000
Yes. 
And Ser Meryn has been feeling 

1793
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:05,100
ill of late. 
Remind me to tell him that when 

1794
01:28:05,100 --> 01:28:11,000
we return to the castle, 
remember that when In was 

1795
01:28:11,700 --> 01:28:14,300
ribbing, Soros, about during the
kingsguard so young. 

1796
01:28:14,300 --> 01:28:17,800
He's like the honor of serving 
besides, it's Paragons, is Boris

1797
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,200
blunt and Meryn Trant. 
That's why you did it, right? 

1798
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:25,200
That's the same two guys to get 
named and this pot and yeah, 

1799
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,300
it's too bad for a gone. 
He didn't accuse his sister. 

1800
01:28:27,300 --> 01:28:30,600
While a man was laid up 
recovering from a poison in his 

1801
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:33,600
case, rather than being burned. 
Which apparently, apparently 

1802
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,900
what's happened to Lourdes, but 
a gun wasn't king when Haman was

1803
01:28:36,900 --> 01:28:39,200
recovering from Poison, so 
wouldn't have probably gone as 

1804
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:40,000
well. 
We know better. 

1805
01:28:40,100 --> 01:28:43,200
Better than to accept the 
outcome of a trial by combat is 

1806
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:46,500
absolute proof, but Westeros 
doesn't. 

1807
01:28:46,500 --> 01:28:49,800
So they that's why it backfired 
because yeah, I'm sure in my 

1808
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,300
mind, a gun was only thinking of
the rewards he's like, oh yeah, 

1809
01:28:52,500 --> 01:28:55,800
let me get rid of my brother and
discern in disinherit, my son. 

1810
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:57,700
All in one swoop is like what a 
great idea. 

1811
01:28:57,700 --> 01:29:00,200
He didn't think of he's like and
if this goes wrong now, whatever

1812
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:01,400
that dudes Dead. 
Who cares? 

1813
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,600
I didn't really think it all the
way through with my guess 

1814
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:07,500
because now it's proven. 
It's like the gods just declared

1815
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:11,600
know that is your true born. 
So he was stuck with it from 

1816
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:14,700
now, he couldn't really argue 
his way out of it that point 

1817
01:29:14,700 --> 01:29:18,600
because it had been put to the 
test and failed, but the gods 

1818
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:20,700
weighed in so he didn't, he 
couldn't really even as king. 

1819
01:29:20,700 --> 01:29:22,400
He couldn't really argue against
that anymore. 

1820
01:29:22,500 --> 01:29:24,200
He would try to wiggle around it
a few times. 

1821
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:28,200
He did some stuff still, but 
that really in a good way for 

1822
01:29:28,300 --> 01:29:32,800
people of decency shot himself 
in the foot there, How drunk was

1823
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:34,200
he? 
Who do you have whispering in 

1824
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:36,500
his ear? 
Like, he was more Gilliam stuff 

1825
01:29:36,500 --> 01:29:39,400
is like, cause this guy's, like 
I want this, the glory of 

1826
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:41,000
defeating the dragon. 
Now, you really thought he could

1827
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:42,900
do it and you just kind of a 
crazy dude. 

1828
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,300
Again, the person we don't know 
much about but he must have been

1829
01:29:45,900 --> 01:29:49,400
very confident like you don't 
just like, yeah I'm gonna fight 

1830
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,200
the dragon knight, it'll all go 
good from there, then it's just 

1831
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:54,800
profit from that. 
My honor, you know, the rest of 

1832
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,800
my life will be saved by the 
way, after seeing House of the 

1833
01:29:57,800 --> 01:29:59,500
Dragon. 
I feel like they did such a good

1834
01:29:59,500 --> 01:30:01,800
job with it, especially with 
iron. 

1835
01:30:01,900 --> 01:30:04,600
Are relatively little 
information, and, and this first

1836
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:07,400
season, which is all built up to
the more actioning part, which 

1837
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:09,800
so good. 
It makes me so much more excited

1838
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,800
to see all these stories now. 
Yeah, I just know the way I just

1839
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:16,300
think I can better imagine now 
how they would fill out these 

1840
01:30:16,300 --> 01:30:19,000
details. 
How the conversations would go 

1841
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:21,400
their sense of the potential of 
what's like what the yeah, 

1842
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:22,500
exactly. 
Yeah. 

1843
01:30:22,500 --> 01:30:24,900
I like that. 
So take note, by the way using 

1844
01:30:24,900 --> 01:30:28,500
this example as we talked about 
how Amon and Nares and these 

1845
01:30:28,500 --> 01:30:30,400
things can be parallels to 
things that have yet to happen 

1846
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:31,700
in the main story. 
What? 

1847
01:30:31,900 --> 01:30:35,500
Happens when after this trial, 
by combat that we're waiting to 

1848
01:30:35,500 --> 01:30:38,500
see from Cersei what's going to 
happen as a result of someone, 

1849
01:30:38,500 --> 01:30:42,100
fighting the mount, the undead 
mountain, and most likely 

1850
01:30:42,100 --> 01:30:47,000
losing, at least in the short 
term Nina is confidently on 

1851
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:50,200
team. 
Darren was definitely the son of

1852
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:51,800
aegon. 
An Aries and a man in there, 

1853
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:53,900
he's not hook up. 
I agree with that. 

1854
01:30:53,900 --> 01:30:58,800
I think their personalities, 
their beliefs, their 

1855
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:02,300
dispositions, like Mary's 
doesn't seem Like, she wanted to

1856
01:31:02,308 --> 01:31:04,900
hook up with anyone, let alone, 
her brother, or her other 

1857
01:31:04,900 --> 01:31:06,400
brother. 
She wanted to be a Septa. 

1858
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:08,800
Now, maybe again, that's partly 
because she wanted to be a step 

1859
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:10,700
to partly because the 
alternative was marrying, her 

1860
01:31:10,700 --> 01:31:12,800
awful brother. 
And like, she didn't really have

1861
01:31:12,900 --> 01:31:15,500
there wasn't an option C. 
It was that maybe she wouldn't 

1862
01:31:15,500 --> 01:31:17,300
have been so interested in being
a stepped-up. 

1863
01:31:17,300 --> 01:31:20,600
She wasn't faced with marrying 
aegon but maybe she would have 

1864
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:22,600
been. 
There's a lot of reasons, I 

1865
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:23,600
don't know. 
We need to go through all of 

1866
01:31:23,608 --> 01:31:26,200
them. 
There we feel the way we feel. 

1867
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:28,000
You all can feel the way you 
feel. 

1868
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,700
Can I say what the polls at? 
Yeah, it's been 20 minutes. 

1869
01:31:32,100 --> 01:31:37,000
There's 34 votes, it's 38%. 
Yes, things were romantic 38% 

1870
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:40,300
know. 
Things were not romantic 24%. 

1871
01:31:40,300 --> 01:31:43,600
Unsure if Dead Heat that he dead
exactly. 

1872
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:46,600
Even right now when I posted the
original pole and started off 

1873
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:49,700
with they didn't hook up and 
then it switched over time to 

1874
01:31:49,700 --> 01:31:53,400
they did which was well the 
question of whether it was 

1875
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:56,100
romantic or not is different 
from whether they ever hooked 

1876
01:31:56,100 --> 01:31:57,000
up. 
So I phrased. 

1877
01:31:57,000 --> 01:31:58,600
It is really yeah. 
Okay. 

1878
01:31:58,600 --> 01:31:59,300
Want to be. 
Yes. 

1879
01:31:59,300 --> 01:32:02,600
Make that clear that you can 
think they were But they never 

1880
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:05,100
were physical and you could I 
guess technically the things 

1881
01:32:05,100 --> 01:32:06,700
that they weren't romantic and 
we're physical. 

1882
01:32:06,700 --> 01:32:08,900
But that seems unlikely compared
to Jaime and Cersei is that 

1883
01:32:08,900 --> 01:32:12,400
implies that it was physical. 
Yeah, not with Laura submerged. 

1884
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:17,100
Yeah, I think, by the way, there
is a decent, if not strong 

1885
01:32:17,100 --> 01:32:21,500
chance that it was romantic, but
I think it's a low weak on 

1886
01:32:21,500 --> 01:32:23,700
probable chance that it was 
physically intimate. 

1887
01:32:23,700 --> 01:32:26,600
Yeah, I agree with that. 
Well, I mean, I agree with that.

1888
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:29,100
Except for like, well, maybe 
they kissed one time or 

1889
01:32:29,100 --> 01:32:31,000
something, but probably not even
act like this. 

1890
01:32:31,900 --> 01:32:34,400
Maybe one time they cast 
teenagers he I don't know. 

1891
01:32:34,700 --> 01:32:37,700
I'll leave that room open for 
it, but I don't think that they 

1892
01:32:37,700 --> 01:32:40,700
slept together and I certainly 
don't think that they had 

1893
01:32:40,700 --> 01:32:42,200
bastards together. 
Yeah. 

1894
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:43,600
Illegitimate kid yeah? 
Right. 

1895
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:44,500
I agree with that. 
Yeah. 

1896
01:32:44,500 --> 01:32:47,500
I think he was probably chased 
but it's easy to say that she 

1897
01:32:47,500 --> 01:32:52,100
could have been an exception. 
Like yes, it was chasing him by 

1898
01:32:52,100 --> 01:32:59,800
vipers in his dreams, his duty 
sense of Duty and chasing him 

1899
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:01,700
through. 
Yeah, one. 

1900
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,500
Person who claims to believe 
Amon was the father of Darren is

1901
01:33:04,500 --> 01:33:07,700
Arianne Martell, but I don't 
know if she really believes that

1902
01:33:07,700 --> 01:33:10,200
she's just trying to get under 
arys oakheart skin about 

1903
01:33:10,300 --> 01:33:12,500
kingsguard and vows and try and 
she's trying to get him to break

1904
01:33:12,500 --> 01:33:14,700
his vows, which is like, yeah, 
kingsguard break their vows, 

1905
01:33:14,700 --> 01:33:17,400
well time even the Dragon Knight
Rook is like, if you can 

1906
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:19,700
convince him that even the 
Dragon Knight broke his vows, 

1907
01:33:19,700 --> 01:33:21,700
then it would make it easier for
him to break his own. 

1908
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:23,600
He didn't agree with her but he 
still did it. 

1909
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,300
Go ahead and break his vows 
because, you know, arianne's 

1910
01:33:26,300 --> 01:33:30,900
naked body was more effective 
than anecdotes about the Dragon 

1911
01:33:30,900 --> 01:33:32,900
Knight? 
Go figure. 

1912
01:33:34,300 --> 01:33:38,300
Also we tease this way the 
beginning of part 1, I'll take 

1913
01:33:38,300 --> 01:33:40,100
Nina's lead on this. 
It's very evident. 

1914
01:33:40,100 --> 01:33:42,100
George is inspired here by the 
stories of Lancelot and 

1915
01:33:42,100 --> 01:33:44,400
Guinevere as the perfect night 
and the queen who supposedly 

1916
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,100
engaged in a clandestine. 
Love affair. 

1917
01:33:46,100 --> 01:33:49,400
Even the name more Gil similar 
to Margaret, who is the mint? 

1918
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:53,200
Like the main villain of a lot 
of the Arthurian Legends and 

1919
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:57,100
he's in fact, Mordred is the one
that reveals Guinevere is 

1920
01:33:57,108 --> 01:33:59,400
infidelity in the Arthurian 
Legend. 

1921
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:01,700
So it's, there's no way George 
wasn't. 

1922
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:03,600
At least thinking of that a 
little bit, the influence is 

1923
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:06,600
pretty clear. 
Once you look at it, Nina's 

1924
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:08,100
continues. 
So I tend to doubt that we'll 

1925
01:34:08,100 --> 01:34:10,500
get a firm answer from the 
author because even an author 

1926
01:34:10,500 --> 01:34:13,200
and legends, it's never, it's 
always left as an open question.

1927
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,600
The actual answer of Darren's 
biological parentage and other 

1928
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:17,600
words, doesn't matter. 
As much as the author's. 

1929
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:19,600
Exploration of these themes of 
Love Duty. 

1930
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:22,400
And chivalric romance is not 
about learning the objective 

1931
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:24,400
truth. 
It's about reflecting on how the

1932
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:27,200
situation shape and was shaped 
in turn by the sort of 

1933
01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:29,400
characters. 
These individuals were very well

1934
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:32,100
said Nina, I really like that 
and I am very much Three. 

1935
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:34,000
She continues though, the 
morgul. 

1936
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,500
Hey swick accusation also 
demonstrates, how short-sighted 

1937
01:34:36,500 --> 01:34:39,200
aegon's attempts to antagonize 
his brother and sister were even

1938
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,100
if anyone believed the 
accusation. 

1939
01:34:41,100 --> 01:34:44,300
And I could see many people 
looking askance at the idea that

1940
01:34:44,300 --> 01:34:46,800
the notably Pious Queen and her 
venerable kingsguard brother had

1941
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:49,800
an affair, like, they're so egg 
on a man was so popular. 

1942
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,100
Like people don't want to 
believe ill of people who are 

1943
01:34:52,100 --> 01:34:53,400
popular. 
That's kind of how it goes. 

1944
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:56,300
If you like someone, it's harder
to accept bad news about them. 

1945
01:34:56,300 --> 01:34:59,800
Like, we're all like, if your 
enemy, if you hear something 

1946
01:35:00,100 --> 01:35:02,100
like gossip about someone you 
hate, Eight. 

1947
01:35:02,100 --> 01:35:03,300
You're like more willing to 
believe. 

1948
01:35:03,300 --> 01:35:05,500
It's like a feedback loop of 
believe you're like, oh yeah, of

1949
01:35:05,500 --> 01:35:07,800
course they would do that. 
And then now your belief about 

1950
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:09,300
them is even worse because 
you've just believe something 

1951
01:35:09,300 --> 01:35:12,100
even worse about them and that 
will fuel your belief about 

1952
01:35:12,100 --> 01:35:14,300
future things about them, 
because you're like, oh, that's 

1953
01:35:14,300 --> 01:35:17,000
the same person that did this 
other thing that you believed 

1954
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,200
with out, much evidence maybe 
even been true. 

1955
01:35:19,200 --> 01:35:22,500
But again, your you would 
scrutinize it more, if it was 

1956
01:35:22,500 --> 01:35:25,300
someone like Prince aemon, the 
dragonknight, the Beloved 

1957
01:35:25,300 --> 01:35:29,000
legendary Warrior, who rescued 
bail, or from the Vipers and all

1958
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:32,700
this other stuff. 
I mean he gets a lot of Benefit 

1959
01:35:32,700 --> 01:35:35,700
of the doubt, right? 
Yeah, and that's part of why I 

1960
01:35:35,708 --> 01:35:37,600
asked question earlier. 
Are we giving him too much 

1961
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,400
benefit of the doubt? 
Maybe maybe, maybe not. 

1962
01:35:40,700 --> 01:35:43,600
So, there was no precedent in 
Targaryen Royal history for any 

1963
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:47,500
of this stuff either. 
Like, when has a queen ever been

1964
01:35:47,500 --> 01:35:51,500
accused of adultery, Cersei has,
but that hadn't happened yet. 

1965
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:52,900
Of course I know Marjorie as 
well. 

1966
01:35:52,900 --> 01:35:56,500
So it hadn't happened in the 
Targaryen are until you know, A 

1967
01:35:56,500 --> 01:35:59,000
Song of Ice and Fire which isn't
the Targaryen are, but do I get 

1968
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:02,100
a difference? 
I guess rainy's wasn't a Trainee

1969
01:36:02,100 --> 01:36:05,000
says, in aegon, the Conqueror is
why Freddy's wasn't accused of 

1970
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:06,900
infidelity. 
It was a ride with her room. 

1971
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:10,300
You know, you never know how 
much it was like after his death

1972
01:36:10,300 --> 01:36:12,900
even, but that's the first 
person I think of is 

1973
01:36:12,900 --> 01:36:15,600
technically, that's those to 
swirl around about her. 

1974
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:17,500
There's also the possibility 
that those rumors were started 

1975
01:36:17,500 --> 01:36:22,500
by visenya in order to, you 
know, get Meg or on the phone 

1976
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:23,700
because she certainly help with 
that. 

1977
01:36:23,700 --> 01:36:27,800
But that's all in the examples, 
any examples of Circe and 

1978
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:31,300
Marjorie, which we can be way 
more certain, about one's true 

1979
01:36:31,300 --> 01:36:37,600
and ones. 
Yeah, true true, true not true. 

1980
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:41,500
And not true. 
Let's talk about the night of 

1981
01:36:41,500 --> 01:36:43,700
Tears. 
Well, I think that we introduced

1982
01:36:43,700 --> 01:36:45,900
beginning with thing that Nina 
is currently writing about her 

1983
01:36:45,900 --> 01:36:48,600
blog. 
That's what I have every night. 

1984
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:56,100
No, I'm joking. 
I'm over the K, very emo. 

1985
01:36:56,100 --> 01:36:57,500
This. 
Remember, we had our question 

1986
01:36:57,500 --> 01:37:00,600
about what music? 
I'm the dragon, I would listen 

1987
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:02,100
to. 
Well, this fuels, A lot of those

1988
01:37:02,100 --> 01:37:04,300
questions to the night of tear 
night of Tears is a Min. 

1989
01:37:04,300 --> 01:37:07,300
The dragon guys. 
It's Alter Ego in a tournament 

1990
01:37:07,700 --> 01:37:12,300
so when Mira is the poison Every
Rose Has Its man. 

1991
01:37:12,300 --> 01:37:14,300
Good one. 
When Meera and jojen or telling 

1992
01:37:14,300 --> 01:37:17,900
bran the Knight of the Laughing 
tree story, this part comes up 

1993
01:37:17,900 --> 01:37:21,900
quote but late on the afternoon 
of that second day as the 

1994
01:37:21,900 --> 01:37:26,400
Shadows grew long, a mystery 
night appeared in the lists. 

1995
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:29,900
It's brand not in sagely mystery
nights would off the pier 

1996
01:37:29,900 --> 01:37:33,100
attorneys with Helms concealing,
their faces, and shields that 

1997
01:37:33,100 --> 01:37:35,600
were either blank or bore some 
strange device. 

1998
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:38,300
Sometimes, they were famous 
Champions in Disguise. 

1999
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:41,500
The Dragon Knight wants 12 
tournament as the night of Tears

2000
01:37:41,700 --> 01:37:44,000
so he can name his sister. 
The queen of love and beauty 

2001
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,300
places. 
The king's mistress barristan. 

2002
01:37:46,300 --> 01:37:48,700
The Bold twice donned a mystery 
Knight's armor. 

2003
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:52,700
First time when he was only 10. 
Yeah, I love that brand knotted 

2004
01:37:52,700 --> 01:37:54,600
sages. 
Like yes, of course a mystery 

2005
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:56,500
Knight. 
Yes, that makes perfect. 

2006
01:37:56,500 --> 01:37:59,300
Yeah. 
Is like I expected that? 

2007
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,700
Yes, no mystery Chris. 
That is an element of the story 

2008
01:38:04,700 --> 01:38:07,600
that fits here. 
Yes, he's heard so many stories.

2009
01:38:08,700 --> 01:38:10,600
Funny, how just he won the 
tourney? 

2010
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:11,700
Like, yeah. 
You just glad. 

2011
01:38:11,700 --> 01:38:14,800
I'm like, yeah, he just heard in
one like, you wonder if people 

2012
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:18,400
just pretended to know, wasn't 
he's like a man is that you like

2013
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:21,600
who else is just this good you 
know just beating everyone's 

2014
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:23,700
like that. 
I recognize that the way he sets

2015
01:38:23,700 --> 01:38:26,100
his horse. 
You know, I thought about that 

2016
01:38:26,100 --> 01:38:31,100
quite a bit actually that it 
almost certainly was known by 

2017
01:38:31,100 --> 01:38:34,700
most people because the Lord guy
I've got sneak off to be a hook,

2018
01:38:34,700 --> 01:38:36,100
it's one thing. 
Yeah. 

2019
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:39,800
Especially with the, the way 
that it's seems to be sort of a 

2020
01:38:39,808 --> 01:38:44,300
standard occurrence, right? 
Like I feel like yeah, it's some

2021
01:38:44,300 --> 01:38:46,400
combination of there would have 
been enough nights. 

2022
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:50,200
It would have recognized his 
build or his style or something.

2023
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:52,200
And there would have been a few 
people that would have just 

2024
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:54,100
known because it had to help put
the armor on. 

2025
01:38:54,100 --> 01:38:56,300
He didn't dress himself ready? 
Right ever. 

2026
01:38:56,300 --> 01:38:58,500
Yeah. 
So you had to get the armored 

2027
01:38:58,500 --> 01:38:59,500
kill someone. 
Yeah. 

2028
01:39:00,300 --> 01:39:03,100
So they probably kind of have to
play along even though they 

2029
01:39:03,100 --> 01:39:06,900
know, you know there's a lot of 
sort of like public secrets that

2030
01:39:06,900 --> 01:39:08,300
people know even in the real 
world. 

2031
01:39:08,500 --> 01:39:10,200
You just kind of go along with 
you don't know. 

2032
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:12,900
Santa Claus for example just up 
top of my head something we 

2033
01:39:12,900 --> 01:39:17,300
always feels good. 
What are you? 

2034
01:39:17,300 --> 01:39:23,600
So mean we have a long history 
of bashing Santa Claus picture 

2035
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:26,300
okay as long as you're here you 
know he's real. 

2036
01:39:26,300 --> 01:39:29,300
I just want to be clear on that.
How do you mean Santa Claus? 

2037
01:39:29,300 --> 01:39:31,600
I just meant that buddy. 
Is not really. 

2038
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:34,900
No. 
We like, yeah. 

2039
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,300
He's real. 
Yeah it's kind of funny to him. 

2040
01:39:38,500 --> 01:39:41,000
Just like hey men is that you. 
Yeah. 

2041
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:44,100
And especially if it's like 
theme music is playing as he's 

2042
01:39:44,100 --> 01:39:45,800
like his walk-up music. 
Yeah. 

2043
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:48,600
That's that's his the emo style 
everybody knows. 

2044
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:51,000
He likes that song and you 
wonder like how did this go down

2045
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,700
because then I laughing tree got
a there's a granite escaped and 

2046
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:56,700
we're just left to guess. 
Pretty sure it's Liana, but we 

2047
01:39:56,700 --> 01:39:58,200
don't know. 
For sure could have been Hallen 

2048
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:00,200
dreamy, other maybe a third 
possibility. 

2049
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:03,400
But in this case, apparently it 
was revealed. 

2050
01:40:03,500 --> 01:40:07,300
But under what circumstances 
maybe egg on the king is like 

2051
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,400
who are you? 
Name my queen, the night, last 

2052
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:11,900
night of love, and beauty. 
Maybe he's one of his 

2053
01:40:11,900 --> 01:40:13,700
lickspittles whispered is here 
is like I bet that's your 

2054
01:40:13,700 --> 01:40:15,800
brother. 
You know, you need to, you know,

2055
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:17,300
or maybe you figured out 
himself. 

2056
01:40:17,300 --> 01:40:20,500
I don't know if he ever spoke 
like building himself. 

2057
01:40:20,500 --> 01:40:23,700
Yeah, you me. 
And he's like, it's his eye. 

2058
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:27,600
Amen. 
But yeah, we knew you're like, 

2059
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:29,500
they're like fake shock like 
you. 

2060
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:32,200
Yeah. 
Oh my God, Heyman. 

2061
01:40:32,500 --> 01:40:34,700
The timing of this to, we don't 
know when this happened in that 

2062
01:40:34,700 --> 01:40:36,400
could add a bit to the story 
Nina rights. 

2063
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:38,200
It's interesting to speculate 
when the night of Tears. 

2064
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:41,000
Event may have occurred randomly
notes when remembering the story

2065
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:43,400
that a man disguised himself at 
this mystery night to prevent 

2066
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:46,600
the king's mistress from being 
crowned queen of love and beauty

2067
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:48,900
so that must have happened 
before and he's like I'm trying 

2068
01:40:48,900 --> 01:40:51,700
to prevent this from happening 
again unless you just predicted 

2069
01:40:51,700 --> 01:40:53,500
it would happen and was just 
trying to prevent it from 

2070
01:40:53,500 --> 01:40:56,600
happening ahead of time but I 
feel like it probably had 

2071
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:57,700
happened. 
He tried to prevent a repeat 

2072
01:40:57,700 --> 01:40:59,200
occurrence. 
It seems a little more likely to

2073
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:00,300
me. 
Anyway. 

2074
01:41:00,300 --> 01:41:02,600
Need to says, if this event 
involved a mistress, a gun took 

2075
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:05,300
while he was King and assuming 
this was not one of his many 

2076
01:41:05,300 --> 01:41:08,300
unknown, minor Mistresses was 
probably Barbara. 

2077
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:11,400
In the same one, he was talking 
about talking up and trying to 

2078
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:14,900
elevate almost to the point of 
being above nerys, if not above 

2079
01:41:14,900 --> 01:41:19,000
nerys and openly talking about 
replacing Darren with egg, or it

2080
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:21,200
doesn't necessarily fit with 
Melissa because Melissa was 

2081
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:23,800
popular, and well, liked, he 
could have named her queen of 

2082
01:41:23,808 --> 01:41:26,400
love and beauty that fits. 
But a man, like, going out of 

2083
01:41:26,407 --> 01:41:29,200
his way to stop Melissa being 
named love and beauty when she 

2084
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:31,800
was popular and Nares liked and 
Melissa and Amon. 

2085
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:35,200
Like Melissa doesn't fit as well
to try to undermine that. 

2086
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:38,200
It could have been one of the 
other ones, but the later 

2087
01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:41,300
Mistresses this is when aegon 
was less. 

2088
01:41:41,300 --> 01:41:43,300
Likely to be holding 
tournaments, his weight was out 

2089
01:41:43,300 --> 01:41:47,300
of control, he had trouble 
walking around and so Barbara, I

2090
01:41:47,300 --> 01:41:49,700
think by far is the most likely 
one for this to have happened 

2091
01:41:49,700 --> 01:41:52,600
under especially giving these 
other details sometime in the 

2092
01:41:52,700 --> 01:41:59,400
range of 171 or 170 to 175 range
because Barbara was gone by 175.

2093
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:03,400
I'm also gonna head Canon that 
in the final round of the 

2094
01:42:03,400 --> 01:42:07,900
tournament that the night. 
I have tears and creeks and 

2095
01:42:07,900 --> 01:42:14,600
Stark unhorsed each other, ruled
it out, freaking figure it out, 

2096
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:18,200
who he was dueling, and that's 
why it doesn't appear anywhere 

2097
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:23,000
else because it's not known 
publicly that that's to me and 

2098
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:26,300
that dual happened. 
So another possibility is 

2099
01:42:26,300 --> 01:42:28,900
Bethany Bracken. 
Who was the lover that came 

2100
01:42:28,900 --> 01:42:31,800
along later? 
The one that even bigger Scandal

2101
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:34,500
developed around was Terrence 
toy, which we'll get to shortly 

2102
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:36,900
Bethany. 
Was Barbara's younger sister. 

2103
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:39,700
The Brackins tried to make their
move again and get back into the

2104
01:42:39,700 --> 01:42:43,800
good. 
Graces of the King by foisting 

2105
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:46,700
Bethany who was like I don't 
know younger version of Barbra 

2106
01:42:46,700 --> 01:42:50,400
an egg on was like, oh yeah I'm 
into her and and took brought 

2107
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:54,000
her back and but they went bad. 
She's the other strong 

2108
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:55,300
candidate. 
I think Nina actually favors 

2109
01:42:55,300 --> 01:42:57,900
Bethany's to Canada I kind of 
lean a little more towards Barba

2110
01:42:57,900 --> 01:43:01,300
but both of them are really. 
If you were writing this if 

2111
01:43:01,308 --> 01:43:03,600
you're making it for TV, it 
would be one of these bracken's 

2112
01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:08,800
because of the level of drama 
would in it, would create And 

2113
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:12,100
also because it's the opposite 
of the Terrence 20 situation 

2114
01:43:12,100 --> 01:43:15,700
where two are about to describe.
It's also just another perfect 

2115
01:43:15,700 --> 01:43:19,700
example of him, defending his 
sister in public which increases

2116
01:43:19,700 --> 01:43:22,000
the legend and is another 
example of aegon, maybe not 

2117
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:26,700
realizing what he's doing 
realizing by trying to push his 

2118
01:43:26,700 --> 01:43:28,600
brother and sister down and 
shame them. 

2119
01:43:28,700 --> 01:43:31,300
Some of his actions, actually 
promote them and make them look 

2120
01:43:31,300 --> 01:43:35,100
Brave and do the evil. 
King is doing all these things 

2121
01:43:35,100 --> 01:43:37,700
to them and they're just 
plugging along, you know? 

2122
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:40,100
Doing their best and being 
chivalrous and Pious. 

2123
01:43:40,100 --> 01:43:42,000
And all these other things and 
it makes them look good. 

2124
01:43:42,300 --> 01:43:44,800
Part of his problem is. 
He's a narcissist and doesn't 

2125
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:46,400
know how people will perceive 
things. 

2126
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,300
You can only understand how 
things will be perceived about 

2127
01:43:49,300 --> 01:43:52,200
him, and he's not very smart. 
Yeah, Nina says. 

2128
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:54,800
And this is a good, a chance to 
remind you. 

2129
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:57,500
All of this is what she wrote 
about in her latest blog post. 

2130
01:43:57,500 --> 01:43:59,600
Comparing night of Tears. 
Tonight of the Laughing tree, 

2131
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:02,400
which is you have in both cases,
a man and Leona sought to make 

2132
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:04,000
it objective. 
Public point. 

2133
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:07,100
A man wanted to prove that a gun
was going too far by naming his 

2134
01:44:07,100 --> 01:44:09,400
mistress. 
Us rather than his Queen in 

2135
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:11,000
public in front of all these 
people. 

2136
01:44:11,300 --> 01:44:13,900
And he had a chance to think 
about it other than argue 

2137
01:44:13,900 --> 01:44:16,800
actually had a chance to step in
and do a perform an action that 

2138
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:18,100
could actually make a 
difference. 

2139
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:20,600
And the same thing happened with
the Knight of the Laughing tree,

2140
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:24,300
where there is an opportunity to
teach those Squires a lesson. 

2141
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:28,300
They weren't discipline properly
for how they treated Howland 

2142
01:44:28,300 --> 01:44:30,400
Reed, how they picked on him and
beat on him. 

2143
01:44:30,600 --> 01:44:34,900
So, the Knight of the Laughing 
tree, probably Anna did this on 

2144
01:44:34,900 --> 01:44:37,600
her own, took matters into her 
own hands and did exactly. 

2145
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:42,700
The justice that they believed 
was called for In This Moment. 

2146
01:44:43,100 --> 01:44:46,100
Another important moment here 
and it may be up for debate, 

2147
01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:50,000
does this show a willingness to 
go against his brother's orders?

2148
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:52,400
We know he was willing to stand 
up to his brother and court 

2149
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:54,200
maybe argue against him. 
Some cases. 

2150
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:57,700
But is this like defying an 
order does this go isn't 

2151
01:44:57,700 --> 01:45:00,800
treason. 
It's a gray area of like whether

2152
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:02,900
this is Disobedience against 
your king or not. 

2153
01:45:02,900 --> 01:45:05,200
What do y'all think? 
We don't know exactly what he 

2154
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:07,600
was told to not do or do. 
So there's it's hard to say. 

2155
01:45:07,700 --> 01:45:11,200
Say, but Nina says she both 
someone agrees and disagrees 

2156
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:14,500
because maybe it's going against
your king, but you do as a 

2157
01:45:14,508 --> 01:45:18,000
chivalric night you like Jamie 
would say, you also have a duty 

2158
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:20,900
to your family, and your sister,
and the rest of the royal 

2159
01:45:20,900 --> 01:45:23,700
family. 
So, it's a bit of a gray area. 

2160
01:45:23,900 --> 01:45:26,900
Maybe is a little subversive, 
but I don't think it's direct 

2161
01:45:26,900 --> 01:45:29,200
Disobedience. 
I mean, unless there's something

2162
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:31,800
happened and we don't know, 
like, if you told him like I 

2163
01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:35,900
said, at this next tournament, 
I'm going to name mistress, X, 

2164
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:37,600
queen of love, and beauty like 
know. 

2165
01:45:37,800 --> 01:45:39,500
You can't do that. 
I can do whatever you want. 

2166
01:45:39,500 --> 01:45:43,100
We'll all join the tourney and 
when so, it's to stop you and 

2167
01:45:43,100 --> 01:45:46,000
it's like I order you to not 
join the turn. 

2168
01:45:46,600 --> 01:45:48,500
Yeah. 
And then he did it anyway, then 

2169
01:45:48,500 --> 01:45:52,400
maybe, but I feel that's a 
pretty almost silly 

2170
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:54,500
conversation. 
I just made up in order for that

2171
01:45:54,500 --> 01:45:55,700
scenario. 
Yeah, you're probably right. 

2172
01:45:55,700 --> 01:45:58,900
I probably didn't happen. 
Anyway, so, possibly, even 

2173
01:45:58,900 --> 01:46:00,200
though we lost the trial by 
combat. 

2174
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:04,100
Now remember part of this trial 
by combat came up because of 

2175
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:09,600
Darren and aegon's. 
Disagreements and And he decided

2176
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:13,900
to go to war with Dorn, possibly
to get one over on his son and 

2177
01:46:13,900 --> 01:46:16,500
his daughter-in-law, I remember 
his daughter-in-law is dornish. 

2178
01:46:17,700 --> 01:46:19,600
So, how old is Darren at this 
point? 

2179
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:21,500
By the way, this is the year 
174. 

2180
01:46:21,500 --> 01:46:24,100
So Darren will be 21. 
Okay, definitely an adult more 

2181
01:46:24,100 --> 01:46:28,500
than adult by now, and even 
though he lost trial by combat, 

2182
01:46:28,500 --> 01:46:32,300
which put to rest, mostly the 
talk of Darren being 

2183
01:46:32,300 --> 01:46:35,300
illegitimate, he still wanted to
throw this, he's going to do 

2184
01:46:35,300 --> 01:46:37,600
what he could to push back 
against this. 

2185
01:46:37,700 --> 01:46:42,500
Part of the family. 
He didn't like and he failed to 

2186
01:46:42,500 --> 01:46:45,200
disown him so he's like, well 
let's invade Dorne first time 

2187
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:49,400
for him, but not the first time 
the targaryens tried to invade 

2188
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:51,100
doorknob bviously. 
There had been several conquest 

2189
01:46:51,100 --> 01:46:52,900
of Dorne under the Iron. 
Throne, some of which were 

2190
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:56,000
conquests in quotes some of 
which were not some of which 

2191
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:58,900
were arguably successful, some 
of which were only attempts. 

2192
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:02,000
This one is kind of like the 
ladder to, in which, that it was

2193
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:05,600
only arguably an attempt. 
There was no, there's no 

2194
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:07,100
question of it being 
unsuccessful. 

2195
01:47:07,700 --> 01:47:10,400
Zero dornishman were killed. 
It could be compared to Prince, 

2196
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:13,400
more eons, Invasion from Dorne 
into the stormlands around, 80 

2197
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:15,600
years before, which killed zeros
Farm, Landers was kind of the 

2198
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:18,700
equivalent of that both cases. 
Lots of people burned to death 

2199
01:47:18,900 --> 01:47:20,600
dornishman, invading were burned
by dragons. 

2200
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:23,400
In this case, the Invaders 
themselves were burned by their 

2201
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:27,300
own wooden dragons. 
Aegon's Fleet, which that was a 

2202
01:47:27,308 --> 01:47:30,600
smart move to send a fleet 
because Darren and open fist had

2203
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:33,800
shown that a fleet was crucial 
to successfully, conquering 

2204
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:37,500
Dorn. 
But the fleet was scattered by a

2205
01:47:37,700 --> 01:47:42,100
Arm and the wooden dragons that 
shot Wildfire worked about as 

2206
01:47:42,100 --> 01:47:45,400
well as you expected them to 
which is that they didn't and he

2207
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:48,600
was expecting to drag these 
through these seven wooden 

2208
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:50,300
Wildfire. 
Belching dragons through the 

2209
01:47:50,300 --> 01:47:53,200
dornish passes. 
And my guess is that this is a 

2210
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:57,900
really interesting is comical as
it is, is this is another thing 

2211
01:47:57,900 --> 01:48:01,600
that the targaryens wouldn't 
have done when they had dragons.

2212
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:04,000
They weren't messing with 
Wildfire back when they had 

2213
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:05,200
dragons. 
Why would they bother? 

2214
01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:08,500
They had fire-breathing beasts 
instead of bit This dangerous 

2215
01:48:08,500 --> 01:48:09,800
substance you got to carry 
around. 

2216
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:13,800
Its could any second just go off
and blow up and you have a hard 

2217
01:48:13,800 --> 01:48:16,800
time controlling it? 
I mean, Dragon Fire Burns hotter

2218
01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:19,600
than Wildfire but Wildfire is 
harder to control ironically, 

2219
01:48:19,900 --> 01:48:23,600
because once it starts burning, 
it doesn't go out, whereas 

2220
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:25,900
dragon, flame. 
Once it's on fire, it's pretty 

2221
01:48:25,900 --> 01:48:28,800
much regular fire. 
Once it's lit stuff on fire, 

2222
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:32,000
it's just hotter initially. 
So remember, how they were talk 

2223
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:35,900
discuss them turning away from 
the draconic background from 

2224
01:48:35,900 --> 01:48:39,800
their history from there? 
Aryan ancestry towards the faith

2225
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:44,000
of the seven as a replacement 
stand-in for the Mandate of 

2226
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:45,700
Heaven, right? 
So, they're all. 

2227
01:48:45,700 --> 01:48:48,500
So they don't have their magical
Heritage either as much anymore.

2228
01:48:48,500 --> 01:48:50,400
So, they're turning to things 
like the pyromancer. 

2229
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:52,100
She got the faith and the 
pyromancers. 

2230
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:54,100
And by the way, that's another 
thing, we wonder about a man 

2231
01:48:54,100 --> 01:48:56,700
when Baylor, burned all the 
books, which would have included

2232
01:48:56,700 --> 01:48:59,500
a lot of that Targaryen history,
lot of, valerian ancestry, lot 

2233
01:48:59,500 --> 01:49:02,800
of dragon, bonding lot of books 
that explain how this stuff 

2234
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:05,500
works which is one of the 
reasons we don't know as well. 

2235
01:49:05,500 --> 01:49:08,300
Now is because a lot of the 
information Agent of the date. 

2236
01:49:08,300 --> 01:49:11,100
A lot of the how-to books were 
destroyed by Baal or another 

2237
01:49:11,100 --> 01:49:12,900
thing that we're like, wonder 
what Amon thought of that. 

2238
01:49:13,100 --> 01:49:16,900
But he had to do his duty. 
I guess I'm wondering, by the 

2239
01:49:16,900 --> 01:49:20,100
way, how much of aegon's attempt
to attack dorm by like having 

2240
01:49:20,100 --> 01:49:21,600
people care while it's our fire 
today. 

2241
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:25,300
I wonder if there's some part of
egg on it was like whatever 

2242
01:49:25,300 --> 01:49:27,100
Baylor walks. 
Is that desert Barefoot. 

2243
01:49:27,100 --> 01:49:30,300
It's no big deal. 
Your second coin in his mind to 

2244
01:49:30,300 --> 01:49:32,800
downplay. 
I'm realistic of a journey. 

2245
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:40,100
This would be yeah. 
This is very likely, another big

2246
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:43,600
backfire. 
So Envision this and see if you 

2247
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:46,000
can follow my logic here. 
There's almost no chance. 

2248
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:49,000
Aegon sent Amon with the 
invasion Force. 

2249
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:50,900
I mean, I think that's odd just,
like, why wouldn't he send his 

2250
01:49:50,900 --> 01:49:52,000
best warrior? 
Why wouldn't will? 

2251
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:54,400
Because he's trying to one-up 
his brother. 

2252
01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:57,300
He won, he doesn't want to 
conquer Dorne, and have his 

2253
01:49:57,600 --> 01:50:00,100
famous brother, get all the 
credit for it, which people 

2254
01:50:00,100 --> 01:50:03,800
would do people if the Congress 
Adorn, it succeeded and a man 

2255
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:06,500
had been part of it again. 
Would be like yeah of course 

2256
01:50:06,500 --> 01:50:08,200
it's exceeded the Dragon Knight 
was there. 

2257
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:10,500
He would get the credit and egg 
on King aegon sitting back in 

2258
01:50:10,500 --> 01:50:12,400
his throne would not get credit 
for it. 

2259
01:50:12,700 --> 01:50:14,500
His brother gets credit, he and 
Damon. 

2260
01:50:14,800 --> 01:50:18,200
Hey, got to be aware of this. 
He's not the brightest bulb but 

2261
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:20,200
he would get this. 
Considering how focused he has? 

2262
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:22,400
One constantly one up in his 
brother and being jealous of his

2263
01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:24,900
brother for being what. 
He's not the only thing I was 

2264
01:50:24,900 --> 01:50:28,500
good at that, his brother wasn't
good at was making babies and 

2265
01:50:28,500 --> 01:50:32,200
drinking, I guess cruelty. 
You know, stuff like that. 

2266
01:50:32,200 --> 01:50:33,400
So this is just quite worked 
out. 

2267
01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:35,800
Really well for him he's like 
I'm not sending you because When

2268
01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:37,400
it succeeds. 
I'm not letting you get any 

2269
01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:42,000
credit for it, but since he was 
not a part of it at all, it 

2270
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:45,300
probably was like, you should 
have said, Prince Haman better. 

2271
01:50:45,300 --> 01:50:48,700
If you said the dragon is, so 
not only did he take - but he's 

2272
01:50:48,700 --> 01:50:50,400
like, yeah, it could have been 
blamed, the whole thing's a 

2273
01:50:50,407 --> 01:50:52,800
damned if you do damned if you 
don't for aegon. 

2274
01:50:52,900 --> 01:50:55,300
Just yeah. 
She shouldn't have done it all 

2275
01:50:56,500 --> 01:51:00,500
million reasons, meteorites. 
It's this whole thing reeks of 

2276
01:51:00,500 --> 01:51:03,000
aegon trying to outdo everything
about the successful campaigns 

2277
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:05,400
of Darren and partially 
successful. 

2278
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:06,600
Campaigns of aegon the 
Conqueror. 

2279
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:10,900
You got the you got the similar 
approach with Darren with Oaken 

2280
01:51:10,900 --> 01:51:14,900
Fist and an invading Army, going
to the two passes and the flee, 

2281
01:51:14,900 --> 01:51:17,400
but he had a bigger Fleet and 
they don't confess tags. 

2282
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:20,400
Like, oh, I don't know bigger 
and instead of three dragons, he

2283
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:23,600
brings in seven, of course 
they're not real dragons but 

2284
01:51:23,900 --> 01:51:28,900
quote unquote Dragon anyway. 
He's just looking at the like 

2285
01:51:28,900 --> 01:51:32,300
blow-by-blow accounting of the 
conquest and was like, okay 

2286
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:35,800
double that double that and 
surely, it's all going to work, 

2287
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:38,300
you know, just 10 more of those 
20 more of those. 

2288
01:51:38,300 --> 01:51:41,400
No Nuance, no planning, no just 
more. 

2289
01:51:41,500 --> 01:51:44,900
Just adding on top. 
That's his that's how he thinks.

2290
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:46,900
And of course you trying to 
humiliate his son and his 

2291
01:51:46,900 --> 01:51:49,500
daughter-in-law and of course 
that backfired to which you 

2292
01:51:49,500 --> 01:51:52,500
know, what happens when a 
narcissist gets embarrassed, 

2293
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:54,600
they just double down right 
there. 

2294
01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:57,400
They all wasn't my fault. 
He blames all the other people. 

2295
01:51:57,500 --> 01:52:00,500
And by the way, hundreds of 
people burn like a lot of the 

2296
01:52:00,500 --> 01:52:03,100
Kingswood went up in Flames 
because of this. 

2297
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:06,500
So it was quite a disaster. 
It wasn't just like, oh, the 

2298
01:52:06,500 --> 01:52:08,800
Wildfire dragons broke and let's
go home. 

2299
01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:13,900
No, it was a huge conflagration.
So another Like A Min on the 

2300
01:52:13,900 --> 01:52:15,100
reason. 
He's probably glad to not be 

2301
01:52:15,100 --> 01:52:16,600
there. 
Like it may have been a 

2302
01:52:16,700 --> 01:52:20,000
Wandering summer haul before the
real summer haul, you know, 

2303
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:22,900
Wildfire on the move. 
It might have been extra 

2304
01:52:22,900 --> 01:52:28,800
frustrating and even tragic for 
For a mon also because if he 

2305
01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:31,800
recognized on any level that 
this was a quote unquote, a 

2306
01:52:31,808 --> 01:52:34,900
suicide mission, right? 
It might have been frustrating 

2307
01:52:34,900 --> 01:52:37,800
for him to not be able to 
mitigate the damages by gonna 

2308
01:52:37,800 --> 01:52:41,200
like it even I'm willing to die 
in this battle but I hopefully I

2309
01:52:41,208 --> 01:52:44,000
can at least make the most of it
or save some of my peoples 

2310
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:48,600
lives, especially if you know, 
what if aegon sent some of a 

2311
01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:53,000
mons, you know allies, friends 
students know, whatever they've 

2312
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:54,400
done to separate them. 
That's kind of thing he would 

2313
01:52:54,407 --> 01:52:55,100
do. 
Yeah. 

2314
01:52:55,100 --> 01:52:56,500
Okay. 
Because objective It's nuts to 

2315
01:52:56,500 --> 01:52:58,600
not send the Dragon Knight to 
the conquer Dorn. 

2316
01:52:58,600 --> 01:53:00,900
When he's already done it, he's 
been there. 

2317
01:53:00,900 --> 01:53:03,400
Like the most one of the, 
probably the most experienced 

2318
01:53:04,100 --> 01:53:07,400
people that could have sent, 
even if it is, quote, unquote, 

2319
01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:09,700
not serious. 
Even he has a good justification

2320
01:53:09,700 --> 01:53:12,100
that's, and I'm like, you're a 
kingsguard need to stay here? 

2321
01:53:12,100 --> 01:53:13,200
Oh no. 
You're right, you're right car. 

2322
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:17,100
These women and made him V or 
you know, like oh my, my oh, my 

2323
01:53:17,300 --> 01:53:19,800
mistress is my fastest. 
You have to stay here. 

2324
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:22,000
Yeah, she's got a good cover 
story for sure. 

2325
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:24,800
It doesn't look that bad. 
But, you know, if he wasn't 

2326
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:27,000
worried about his ego and 
Protecting his mistress is it 

2327
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:30,600
would be like yeah of course you
send the Dragon Knight as is 

2328
01:53:30,600 --> 01:53:34,500
rain goes on examples like this 
become more and more common. 

2329
01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:37,300
His behavior gets worse as 
health gets worse. 

2330
01:53:37,300 --> 01:53:41,000
These two things are negative 
feedback loop because they pile 

2331
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:43,700
on each other too. 
Bad is helped in Decline so much

2332
01:53:43,700 --> 01:53:47,500
that he died because he didn't, 
but he kept on firing bastards. 

2333
01:53:47,500 --> 01:53:50,900
He didn't stop doing that his he
managed to stay fertile, 

2334
01:53:50,900 --> 01:53:54,100
unfortunately, as well. 
Kept on giving away honors lands

2335
01:53:54,100 --> 01:53:56,500
and titles and even dragon eggs 
like he would give Away dragon 

2336
01:53:56,500 --> 01:53:59,400
eggs to Lourdes to give act 
access to their daughters for 

2337
01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:01,600
the night. 
This is a guy really didn't care

2338
01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:04,300
about the value of things or 
about the honor of people or 

2339
01:54:04,300 --> 01:54:06,600
about history, or Heritage or 
anything. 

2340
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:09,200
Any of the stuff. 
And this is partly, may be 

2341
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:13,700
related to the book burnings and
the switch of Targaryen cultural

2342
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:16,700
distinction, away from Larry and
stuff. 

2343
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:19,500
Because these items would have 
been cherished more. 

2344
01:54:19,500 --> 01:54:21,600
These Target, these items that 
come from. 

2345
01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:24,300
They're blurry and cultural 
background, and he's just giving

2346
01:54:24,300 --> 01:54:25,900
them away because they don't 
care about them anymore. 

2347
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:27,100
More. 
Well, other people may have 

2348
01:54:27,100 --> 01:54:29,600
carried about cared about them 
just because he did a man may 

2349
01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:31,400
have been one of the ones was 
like, yeah, we should get rid of

2350
01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:33,600
this stuff because it's, we're 
not, you know, we're trying to 

2351
01:54:33,608 --> 01:54:36,100
move away from this Valerian 
stuff and that's, it's not of 

2352
01:54:36,100 --> 01:54:38,400
the seven. 
But again, that might be 

2353
01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:39,700
projecting. 
We don't know what a man 

2354
01:54:39,700 --> 01:54:42,600
thought, he may have, you know, 
some of the Mistresses he may 

2355
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:45,200
have had conversations with 
strike up conversations with, 

2356
01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:47,300
maybe didn't hate, you know, 
it's hard for him to imagine him

2357
01:54:47,300 --> 01:54:50,400
liking the bracken's or having 
much to in common with them, but

2358
01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:52,400
we do know he was a fan of 
Melissa. 

2359
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:57,900
If we take stock of where the 
young kids are in the late 17th,

2360
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:02,500
when we're getting kind of close
to the end here, we have bail or

2361
01:55:02,500 --> 01:55:07,100
break spear Daemon blackfyre 
bittersteel and bloodraven. 

2362
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:10,200
All born in this time, they're 
all between the ages of two and 

2363
01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:13,300
seven, of course, none of them 
have those nicknames yet, but 

2364
01:55:13,300 --> 01:55:14,600
all of them wanted to be 
Warriors. 

2365
01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:17,300
They were all training, may be 
together or a little bit 

2366
01:55:17,300 --> 01:55:19,800
separately, who knows? 
It's not entirely clear, bitter 

2367
01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:21,800
Shield, may have been back at 
Stonehedge, whatever. 

2368
01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:24,500
They're all aware of Prince. 
Same in the Dragon Knight. 

2369
01:55:24,500 --> 01:55:28,800
He is the top knight in the 
kingdom when they're, like, four

2370
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:31,900
years old 5 years old. 
They're all little Brands here, 

2371
01:55:32,100 --> 01:55:34,700
right there. 
All worshiping idolizing the 

2372
01:55:34,900 --> 01:55:37,500
best fanciest famous night in 
the night. 

2373
01:55:37,500 --> 01:55:40,200
Really that fancy, but he may 
seem fancy to them at that age. 

2374
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:43,200
That's a big deal. 
But remember, we can't just 

2375
01:55:43,200 --> 01:55:46,200
think about bran. 
We've got Sansa is just as big a

2376
01:55:46,208 --> 01:55:48,100
part of this her almost as big a
part of this because remember we

2377
01:55:48,100 --> 01:55:50,600
pointed out beginning brand that
great quote from brand, but we 

2378
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:53,300
followed it up by the quote from
Sansa who was also thinking 

2379
01:55:53,300 --> 01:55:54,000
about. 
Salmon. 

2380
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:57,100
Because he, his story isn't just
about Marshall Deeds. 

2381
01:55:57,100 --> 01:56:01,300
It's also about romance and Duty
and all these other aspects of 

2382
01:56:01,500 --> 01:56:04,200
that, fill the pages of many, 
great stories. 

2383
01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:08,000
So the young princess is would 
have noticed him to maybe even 

2384
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:10,800
like Sansa they would have 
looked up to him maybe 

2385
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:14,000
fantasized about him or dreamt 
of a husband like him. 

2386
01:56:14,200 --> 01:56:17,400
Dana, of course, it took up with
egg on to have Daemon blackfyre 

2387
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,800
Elena, may have young Elena, may
have wanted a, you know, may 

2388
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:24,300
have wanted to fantasize about 
having someone like aemon, the 

2389
01:56:24,300 --> 01:56:26,300
dragonknight for her husband may
be raining. 

2390
01:56:26,300 --> 01:56:30,100
Other rain is more of a Septa by
a disposition so she may not 

2391
01:56:30,100 --> 01:56:31,400
have been thinking about 
husbands at all. 

2392
01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:34,500
But who knows at some point 
Fireball? 

2393
01:56:34,700 --> 01:56:37,900
Quentin ball was brought on to 
be master-at-arms, because we're

2394
01:56:37,900 --> 01:56:39,800
told he's the one that trained. 
The great bastards though, 

2395
01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:43,600
though, maybe he didn't come on 
till after a man's are aware, 

2396
01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:47,000
not entirely sure, but they may 
have trained together, Nina 

2397
01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:49,100
says, aegon the fourth 
supposedly promised Quentin 

2398
01:56:49,100 --> 01:56:51,500
ball, he would make him a member
of the kingsguard, but it seems 

2399
01:56:51,500 --> 01:56:54,300
unlikely that this promise was 
made when a man was So alive 

2400
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:57,400
considering egg says, aegon the 
fourth died before Place became 

2401
01:56:57,400 --> 01:57:02,100
available because yeah, if that 
was the case then Fireball would

2402
01:57:02,100 --> 01:57:08,300
have maybe taken a man's place 
when he died, but maybe Fireball

2403
01:57:08,300 --> 01:57:10,700
was next, on the list of people 
being promised. 

2404
01:57:10,700 --> 01:57:13,600
Either way, he never did get 
that cloak and it became a 

2405
01:57:13,600 --> 01:57:15,100
problem for him. 
It's part of why he joined the 

2406
01:57:15,100 --> 01:57:17,900
black fires or maybe joined is 
the wrong words. 

2407
01:57:17,900 --> 01:57:20,300
Let helped lead the black fires 
might be a better. 

2408
01:57:21,300 --> 01:57:24,100
And on top of that, we have 
three new princelings Prince 

2409
01:57:24,100 --> 01:57:27,100
dare on and Princess Maria had 
three more sons are. 

2410
01:57:27,100 --> 01:57:32,400
He's Ray Gill and make our make 
our son of Amon and egg. 

2411
01:57:32,700 --> 01:57:35,600
That's a pretty big one. 
This is even more reason. 

2412
01:57:35,600 --> 01:57:37,800
I hope we see an older princess 
Elena in the future. 

2413
01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:40,600
Tales of dunk and egg. 
Need a rides Elena born in 150. 

2414
01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:42,100
Would have been seen and known 
prints? 

2415
01:57:42,100 --> 01:57:44,700
A man in his prime. 
And if she really did live to be

2416
01:57:44,700 --> 01:57:47,800
70 plus years old, she would be 
one of the very few people alive

2417
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:51,000
at the end of her life. 
If not the last person alive who

2418
01:57:51,100 --> 01:57:53,900
Would have no name, and as a 
living being like the lat, she 

2419
01:57:53,900 --> 01:57:56,700
may have been the last person to
she may have been the only 

2420
01:57:56,700 --> 01:58:00,400
person alive when she died that 
new Amon when he was alive, at 

2421
01:58:00,400 --> 01:58:03,200
least close like besides, like 
some old dude living, you know, 

2422
01:58:03,200 --> 01:58:05,500
out in the countryside didn't 
actually know a man, but was 

2423
01:58:05,500 --> 01:58:07,700
alive at the same time as him. 
I mean, someone that knew him. 

2424
01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:12,400
That would have all that's 
important, because as great, as 

2425
01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:17,600
he was, his Legend, would have 
been enhanced by people talking 

2426
01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:20,100
about him, especially family 
members and carrying that Legend

2427
01:58:20,100 --> 01:58:24,600
on and speaking in speaking of 
him, in terms of great respect 

2428
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:27,600
and legit. 
So let's talk about the case of 

2429
01:58:27,600 --> 01:58:31,800
Terrence Towing because this led
to the end Terrence Towing was 

2430
01:58:32,400 --> 01:58:34,200
one of the kingsguard. 
So it would have been a 

2431
01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:39,400
subordinate to aimin at this 
point now King aegon was 

2432
01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:43,400
personally very handsome when he
was young and that helped him 

2433
01:58:43,900 --> 01:58:48,600
achieve all his bastards by 
having charm and Charisma and 

2434
01:58:48,600 --> 01:58:51,400
women being attracted to him. 
But over time he became quite 

2435
01:58:51,400 --> 01:58:54,300
gross, he got massively 
overweight drinking and eating 

2436
01:58:54,300 --> 01:58:58,500
and wasn't attractive anymore. 
I got to say, I'm not sure if 

2437
01:58:58,500 --> 01:59:00,800
you can totally put up the charm
and Charisma. 

2438
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:02,800
There might have been a power 
Dynamic involved. 

2439
01:59:02,900 --> 01:59:05,300
Oh yeah totally. 
You're totally right question 

2440
01:59:05,300 --> 01:59:07,400
for him hundred percent 
especially when he was just 

2441
01:59:07,700 --> 01:59:10,000
mingling with the Commoners 
more, the power Dynamic women. 

2442
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:13,100
Really off the charts and still 
pretty big even when he was you 

2443
01:59:13,100 --> 01:59:16,400
know, messing with other Noble 
women because he's a Targaryen. 

2444
01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:18,900
And yeah there's there's always 
going to be that power Dynamic 

2445
01:59:19,100 --> 01:59:21,000
even with his sister. 
Like there's never not going to 

2446
01:59:21,008 --> 01:59:22,900
be the power, some sort of power
Dynamic. 

2447
01:59:22,900 --> 01:59:25,600
There is no equal when you're 
like a prince or a king or 

2448
01:59:25,608 --> 01:59:27,800
whatever. 
So, recall that aegon's first 

2449
01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:30,400
prominent Noble, mistress was 
Barbara right ever since he had 

2450
01:59:30,400 --> 01:59:32,600
moved on from her, the Bracken 
said, scheme to win back that 

2451
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:37,100
level of influence via barba's 
younger sister. 

2452
01:59:37,200 --> 01:59:38,400
So, here's the explanation of 
that. 

2453
01:59:38,600 --> 01:59:43,300
And what transpired quote phanie
was groomed by her father and 

2454
01:59:43,300 --> 01:59:46,000
sister expressly to win the 
king's favor. 

2455
01:59:46,100 --> 01:59:49,600
And displace Mr. Blackwood in 
177. 

2456
01:59:49,700 --> 01:59:53,700
She caught a God's eye as he 
visited at Stonehedge to see his

2457
01:59:53,700 --> 01:59:58,600
bastard son egg or by now the 
King was fat and foul-tempered. 

2458
01:59:58,700 --> 02:00:01,800
But Bethenny, delighted him and 
he took her back with him to 

2459
02:00:01,800 --> 02:00:04,900
King's Landing. 
However, Bethany found his Royal

2460
02:00:04,900 --> 02:00:08,100
Embraces distressing for 
Comfort. 

2461
02:00:08,100 --> 02:00:12,200
She turned to a knight of the 
kingsguard Sarah Terrence toyne.

2462
02:00:12,300 --> 02:00:17,200
The pair was discovered a bed by
aegon himself in 178 oops. 

2463
02:00:17,300 --> 02:00:21,500
Sarah Terrance was tortured to 
death and both lady Bethany and 

2464
02:00:21,500 --> 02:00:26,700
her father were executed lots to
unpack, their poor Bethenny, 

2465
02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:30,000
it's groomed by a groomed, is 
the right word, right? 

2466
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:31,300
That is exactly what she was 
done. 

2467
02:00:31,300 --> 02:00:36,900
They totally groomed her to be a
lover to a King who was gross 

2468
02:00:36,900 --> 02:00:41,600
and cruel. 
And it works until it horribly 

2469
02:00:41,600 --> 02:00:44,100
backfired. 
You can understand why Bethany 

2470
02:00:44,100 --> 02:00:47,300
was quote distressed by his 
Embraces. 

2471
02:00:47,300 --> 02:00:49,400
That's the easiest thing to 
understand here. 

2472
02:00:49,400 --> 02:00:52,000
Probably. 
Probably quite an understatement

2473
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:53,500
to yeah. 
Yes. 

2474
02:00:53,500 --> 02:00:58,700
What's the most tactful way we 
do? 

2475
02:00:58,700 --> 02:01:01,300
You say the king Rapture without
saying the king raped her? 

2476
02:01:01,300 --> 02:01:03,300
Yeah. 
And then it gets worse because 

2477
02:01:03,300 --> 02:01:06,200
she was forced to watch as 
Terence was drawn and quartered 

2478
02:01:06,200 --> 02:01:08,400
basically, like, for pulled 
apart, limb from limb. 

2479
02:01:08,500 --> 02:01:11,300
Him and then she was murdered 
after that executed, then her 

2480
02:01:11,300 --> 02:01:16,600
own father Terence was handsome 
as well, which egg on me of this

2481
02:01:16,600 --> 02:01:19,000
may have added to aegon's 
Cruelty. 

2482
02:01:19,500 --> 02:01:26,600
And well, the Curiosity here is 
once again, what role did Amon 

2483
02:01:26,600 --> 02:01:27,600
play? 
Hear anything. 

2484
02:01:27,600 --> 02:01:31,000
Did he know about this 
relationship with Bethenny and 

2485
02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:35,800
Sir, Terrence, is it possible? 
He's the reason aegon stumbled 

2486
02:01:35,800 --> 02:01:40,000
upon Terrence And Bethany a bed 
together. 

2487
02:01:40,100 --> 02:01:42,700
Did he arrange this? 
The today accidentally happen? 

2488
02:01:42,700 --> 02:01:46,200
He maybe didn't realize the 
extent of it, but he was imagine

2489
02:01:46,200 --> 02:01:51,000
that he's ashamed of his own 
brother for doing this and he 

2490
02:01:51,300 --> 02:01:55,700
does this to get out of it or to
draw to a conclusion. 

2491
02:01:56,000 --> 02:01:58,000
I think maybe he would be a 
little more upfront about it and

2492
02:01:58,000 --> 02:02:00,600
accused the guy in open court, 
but what's the proof? 

2493
02:02:01,500 --> 02:02:03,100
You know, maybe he needed to 
show proof. 

2494
02:02:03,100 --> 02:02:04,700
This is like, well, I need them 
to see proof of it. 

2495
02:02:04,700 --> 02:02:08,000
I need him to and he didn't 
necessarily see where it would 

2496
02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:09,800
go from. 
Here, I don't know how does that

2497
02:02:09,800 --> 02:02:12,900
register with you Sean's? 
That I don't know. 

2498
02:02:12,900 --> 02:02:15,300
I've gone back and forth a 
little bit thinking about it. 

2499
02:02:15,300 --> 02:02:21,300
I like I can see that he might 
have knowledge and about it and 

2500
02:02:21,300 --> 02:02:24,000
motivation to do something. 
But like you said, who does he 

2501
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:26,300
tell? 
How does he make people believe 

2502
02:02:26,300 --> 02:02:28,500
him? 
You might even think though, 

2503
02:02:28,500 --> 02:02:31,200
that like couldn't why wouldn't 
people believe I'm couldn't he 

2504
02:02:31,200 --> 02:02:33,400
just on his own authority, send 
him to the wall be like I've 

2505
02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:35,700
you're guilty of his like, who 
would stop like, I don't know. 

2506
02:02:35,700 --> 02:02:37,300
Yeah, I think like you could 
have just done but he still 

2507
02:02:37,300 --> 02:02:39,200
would have to explain why He's 
doing it for. 

2508
02:02:39,200 --> 02:02:42,000
What the heck is that? 
What point it might be. 

2509
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:44,800
I can't imagine that he is 
trustworthy enough that if you 

2510
02:02:44,800 --> 02:02:47,600
made this accusation, people 
were just believe it, but that 

2511
02:02:47,600 --> 02:02:51,000
might be a little naive again. 
If I'm imagining this television

2512
02:02:51,000 --> 02:02:55,500
show being made all the Intrigue
and conflict and distrust, that 

2513
02:02:55,500 --> 02:02:58,700
might be behind all this, and it
might not be that simple. 

2514
02:02:58,700 --> 02:03:01,700
It still seems one where the 
other day he would be aware of 

2515
02:03:01,700 --> 02:03:04,400
the potential extreme reaction 
aegon would have. 

2516
02:03:04,600 --> 02:03:07,400
I don't think he would want. 
Yeah, I don't think right. 

2517
02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:10,600
Because it Maybe the game was 
even more extreme than you could

2518
02:03:10,600 --> 02:03:13,000
have guessed. 
Maybe the king even did that to 

2519
02:03:13,000 --> 02:03:17,100
punish a mon for women is this 
is one of this, it's one of his 

2520
02:03:17,100 --> 02:03:18,400
people. 
It's one of your king went you. 

2521
02:03:18,407 --> 02:03:20,200
This these King Carter under 
your control. 

2522
02:03:20,200 --> 02:03:22,400
Your command, you know, you 
should have been, you should 

2523
02:03:22,400 --> 02:03:23,800
stop this. 
I don't know another thing to 

2524
02:03:23,800 --> 02:03:25,700
consider here. 
Let me add a couple two. 

2525
02:03:25,700 --> 02:03:26,800
Other little bits of detail 
here. 

2526
02:03:26,800 --> 02:03:29,800
One, is that depending on how 
seriously aegon takes our, a man

2527
02:03:29,800 --> 02:03:33,800
took his vows. 
He may have really been upset at

2528
02:03:34,500 --> 02:03:37,900
Terrance breaking his vows by 
not being a celibate especially 

2529
02:03:37,900 --> 02:03:40,500
with the kids. 
Mistress, which is a pretty big 

2530
02:03:40,500 --> 02:03:44,200
violation on the and Bethenny's 
the one who replaced Melissa, 

2531
02:03:44,300 --> 02:03:47,200
who nerys and a man himself 
liked. 

2532
02:03:47,600 --> 02:03:51,200
So this this scheming Brackins 
who he had already helped kick 

2533
02:03:51,200 --> 02:03:55,600
out, he got rid of it, he helps 
got rid of them and now they're 

2534
02:03:55,600 --> 02:03:58,100
back. 
You know, he already was 

2535
02:03:58,100 --> 02:04:01,500
predisposed to want them gone so
he might have done something 

2536
02:04:01,500 --> 02:04:03,500
underhanded here to get them 
God. 

2537
02:04:03,500 --> 02:04:07,900
Again, and it may have worked 
better than he had thought, I 

2538
02:04:07,900 --> 02:04:09,900
don't think he To shed a tear 
over their executions. 

2539
02:04:09,900 --> 02:04:12,700
Though he probably wouldn't have
ordered this such a gruesome 

2540
02:04:12,700 --> 02:04:15,900
death for anyone, but right, 
that's one of my thoughts is all

2541
02:04:15,900 --> 02:04:20,400
these things that we consider 
while I am on, might have done 

2542
02:04:20,400 --> 02:04:22,700
it. 
Yeah, could be dressed true of 

2543
02:04:22,700 --> 02:04:26,300
some other kings guard or some 
other person at court. 

2544
02:04:26,300 --> 02:04:29,700
They might have also known been 
motivated to tell because their 

2545
02:04:29,700 --> 02:04:32,300
Pious for because they believe 
in the honor of the kingsguard 

2546
02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:34,900
but didn't know how they could 
say it, where it would be 

2547
02:04:34,900 --> 02:04:36,700
believed. 
And, you know, you see it was 

2548
02:04:36,700 --> 02:04:39,300
saying, I someone else could 
have some Allure motivations and

2549
02:04:39,300 --> 02:04:41,300
knowledge to a mom. 
Yeah. 

2550
02:04:41,500 --> 02:04:44,100
And have hinted to the king. 
You should go to your bedroom 

2551
02:04:44,100 --> 02:04:45,300
right now or something like 
that. 

2552
02:04:45,300 --> 02:04:47,500
Yeah, but they got spider 
walking around by himself he's 

2553
02:04:47,500 --> 02:04:49,400
probably got a kingsguard with 
him at all times. 

2554
02:04:49,500 --> 02:04:51,800
So he walks into this room. 
Well, the kingsguard isn't 

2555
02:04:51,800 --> 02:04:54,500
Terrence because Terrence is in 
the room when he's with 

2556
02:04:54,500 --> 02:04:56,200
Bethenny, that's only six 
kingsguard. 

2557
02:04:56,200 --> 02:05:00,200
So you've Maybe there's even a 
one in six chance that a man was

2558
02:05:00,300 --> 02:05:03,500
literally with him when this 
happens and that, yeah, adds a 

2559
02:05:03,500 --> 02:05:07,000
little more to it as like, but I
still have this tendency to 

2560
02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:11,000
think that a man would not have 
wanted the consequences for this

2561
02:05:11,000 --> 02:05:12,700
to be what they were. 
I agree. 

2562
02:05:12,700 --> 02:05:15,100
Yeah, on the other hand. 
So, where we ask ourselves, are 

2563
02:05:15,100 --> 02:05:17,100
we being too rosy with our view 
of him? 

2564
02:05:17,700 --> 02:05:20,100
This is a good time to ask the 
to re-ask that question. 

2565
02:05:20,100 --> 02:05:25,500
Maybe we're being too, you know,
Rosie with our view of a man's 

2566
02:05:25,500 --> 02:05:28,500
personality maybe like You said 
maybe this level of extreme 

2567
02:05:28,500 --> 02:05:29,900
violence, maybe that isn't too 
much for him. 

2568
02:05:29,900 --> 02:05:33,400
Given all he's seen and done 
except that we don't have 

2569
02:05:33,400 --> 02:05:35,800
another good example of it. 
That's the district that's why 

2570
02:05:35,800 --> 02:05:37,400
I'm suspicious. 
Yeah, I agree, I agree. 

2571
02:05:37,400 --> 02:05:41,400
There's I tend to agree with you
that he would not have been okay

2572
02:05:41,400 --> 02:05:43,800
with this extremely violent 
execution but he might have 

2573
02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:45,600
still been okay with an 
execution. 

2574
02:05:45,600 --> 02:05:48,800
Since this guy violated his duty
pretty clearly and doesn't 

2575
02:05:48,800 --> 02:05:50,400
belong to wear the white Club, 
maybe he would have been like 

2576
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:51,800
send him to the wall. 
But like really. 

2577
02:05:51,800 --> 02:05:53,700
That's what I would expect him 
with a gelding. 

2578
02:05:53,700 --> 02:05:55,000
Like they did to Luca more 
strong. 

2579
02:05:55,000 --> 02:05:59,500
That's and in fact, that had 
been Least 60 no more than 60 80

2580
02:05:59,500 --> 02:06:00,800
years in the past, that was 
still would have been 

2581
02:06:00,800 --> 02:06:02,100
remembered. 
I mean, people still remember, 

2582
02:06:02,100 --> 02:06:04,300
Luca more strong in A Song of 
Ice and Fire, which is way 

2583
02:06:04,300 --> 02:06:07,400
later. 
So maybe that's what a man would

2584
02:06:07,400 --> 02:06:11,400
have expected the consequences 
to be like Bethenny gets kicked 

2585
02:06:11,400 --> 02:06:13,800
out. 
Maybe she's executed and 

2586
02:06:14,400 --> 02:06:17,200
Terrence is sent to the wall. 
Maybe that was his expectation 

2587
02:06:17,200 --> 02:06:19,800
if so, maybe that was naive 
because his brother is a lot 

2588
02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:24,300
more vindictive and narcissistic
than that anyway it's a very 

2589
02:06:24,300 --> 02:06:26,700
edging open question again. 
Another one is if this is ever 

2590
02:06:26,700 --> 02:06:30,800
on Screen. 
Or on book in book form fleshed 

2591
02:06:30,800 --> 02:06:34,600
out a lot of different ways they
could do it a lot of and yeah a 

2592
02:06:34,608 --> 02:06:37,000
lot of interesting ways for them
to do it, a lot of compelling 

2593
02:06:37,000 --> 02:06:41,100
ways them to do it and I would 
love to see that unless they 

2594
02:06:41,100 --> 02:06:43,500
choose badly after which options
to do it. 

2595
02:06:45,900 --> 02:06:48,300
Harris, oh, cart as well. 
Need to point out are so card 

2596
02:06:48,300 --> 02:06:50,700
internally acknowledges that 
borrows blunt was no stranger to

2597
02:06:50,700 --> 02:06:52,700
the street of silk and 
surpressing Greenfield used to 

2598
02:06:52,700 --> 02:06:54,900
call it a certain Draper's 
house, whenever the Draper was 

2599
02:06:54,900 --> 02:06:59,500
away and barristan new Prince, 
Lewin Martel kept a paramour. 

2600
02:06:59,500 --> 02:07:02,300
He was in the kingsguard there 
may be sort of a 

2601
02:07:02,300 --> 02:07:04,800
don't-ask-don't-tell attitude 
among kingsguard, like, if you 

2602
02:07:04,808 --> 02:07:07,500
need, you know, yes, we're 
supposed to be celibate, but I 

2603
02:07:07,500 --> 02:07:09,800
get it if you don't need to kind
of like the Nights Watch has 

2604
02:07:09,800 --> 02:07:15,100
moles town, A man may have been 
one of them not like, as in 

2605
02:07:15,100 --> 02:07:17,500
going to do that himself because
I kind of doubt that but he may 

2606
02:07:17,500 --> 02:07:20,300
have been part of that 
Brotherhood and understood that.

2607
02:07:20,800 --> 02:07:23,300
Yeah, look, just keep it under 
wraps. 

2608
02:07:23,300 --> 02:07:24,800
Don't sleep with anyone 
important. 

2609
02:07:24,800 --> 02:07:28,300
You know, just don't have kids. 
Otherwise, I'll turn a blind 

2610
02:07:28,300 --> 02:07:29,700
eye, but maybe a man was 
Hardcore. 

2611
02:07:29,700 --> 02:07:33,100
He's like, no, absolutely. 
We do letter the law Duty and 

2612
02:07:33,100 --> 02:07:36,500
you sleeping around is 
completely off the table, we 

2613
02:07:36,500 --> 02:07:42,200
don't know. 
Either way, at some point after 

2614
02:07:42,200 --> 02:07:47,500
this probably sooner rather than
later, but no later than the 

2615
02:07:47,500 --> 02:07:52,700
year 183, but probably closer to
the year 178 when this coin 

2616
02:07:52,700 --> 02:07:56,000
thing happens. 
It was Revenge. 

2617
02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:57,500
That's why I think was closer 
rather than later. 

2618
02:07:57,500 --> 02:08:00,900
Yes, revenge is a dish, best 
served cold but this appears to 

2619
02:08:00,900 --> 02:08:02,200
be a case with blood running 
hot. 

2620
02:08:02,200 --> 02:08:06,100
So it probably happened 
relatively soon after which is 

2621
02:08:06,100 --> 02:08:09,500
the toy lines decided that would
happen to their brother was too 

2622
02:08:09,500 --> 02:08:11,600
much and they plan some kind of 
Ambush. 

2623
02:08:11,600 --> 02:08:16,300
It's possible that King aegon 
like took away their land as 

2624
02:08:16,300 --> 02:08:17,900
well. 
So they had even more incentive 

2625
02:08:17,900 --> 02:08:19,300
but there's nothing of that 
mentioned. 

2626
02:08:19,300 --> 02:08:24,000
So they ended up with no land 
after this one way or the other 

2627
02:08:24,000 --> 02:08:26,200
either. 
Or after this incident, they 

2628
02:08:26,200 --> 02:08:29,200
cease to be a chartered house in
Westeros though. 

2629
02:08:29,200 --> 02:08:32,100
They still exist maybe to this 
day although maybe not, we'll 

2630
02:08:32,100 --> 02:08:34,100
see. 
So, here's what happened, some 

2631
02:08:34,100 --> 02:08:37,000
sort of Ambush, it's sort of 
reminds us of what might happen 

2632
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:40,100
with the kettle blacks. 
It reminds Jamie of that too 

2633
02:08:40,100 --> 02:08:42,100
because he mentions them here in
this anecdote. 

2634
02:08:42,100 --> 02:08:45,000
While mentioning sir, Osman 
kettle black in particular 

2635
02:08:45,300 --> 02:08:48,300
quote, I don't think it would be
proper for me to slay my known 

2636
02:08:48,300 --> 02:08:51,200
sworn brother, but I need to do 
is guilt him and send him to the

2637
02:08:51,200 --> 02:08:53,000
wall. 
That's what they did with Luca 

2638
02:08:53,000 --> 02:08:56,600
more, the Lusty sir. 
Osman may not take kindly to the

2639
02:08:56,600 --> 02:09:00,100
gilding to be sure. 
And there are his brothers to 

2640
02:09:00,100 --> 02:09:03,100
consider Brothers can be 
dangerous after, aegon, the 

2641
02:09:03,100 --> 02:09:05,700
Unworthy put search warrants 
twine to death for sleeping with

2642
02:09:05,700 --> 02:09:08,400
his mistress twins. 
Brothers did their best to kill 

2643
02:09:08,400 --> 02:09:10,200
him. 
Your best is not quite good 

2644
02:09:10,200 --> 02:09:11,900
enough. 
Thanks to the Dragon Knight, but

2645
02:09:11,900 --> 02:09:14,900
it was not for want of trying. 
It is written down in the white 

2646
02:09:14,900 --> 02:09:17,500
book. 
All of it, save what to do with 

2647
02:09:17,500 --> 02:09:20,100
Circe. 
Let's not forget the twins 

2648
02:09:20,100 --> 02:09:21,100
appeared in a few other 
interesting. 

2649
02:09:21,100 --> 02:09:24,300
Places such as in the Kingswood 
Brotherhood, led by Simon toyne.

2650
02:09:25,000 --> 02:09:27,200
Myles toyne, take a black heart.
Who was Captain? 

2651
02:09:27,200 --> 02:09:29,600
General of the golden company 
before homeless Airy Strickland 

2652
02:09:29,600 --> 02:09:34,300
so only one Captain General ago.
So the reverse of what happened 

2653
02:09:34,300 --> 02:09:35,800
with Darren. 
The first happened here, where 

2654
02:09:35,800 --> 02:09:38,700
the king died in a man survived.
This time, a man died in the 

2655
02:09:38,708 --> 02:09:41,400
king survived. 
Certainly a worthy death. 

2656
02:09:41,400 --> 02:09:44,000
Even though it was his unworthy 
brother, it's a real conundrum 

2657
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:46,600
of sorts for the kingsguard. 
It would have been like if 

2658
02:09:46,600 --> 02:09:50,000
you're a kingsguard in the spot 
especially at dutiful kingsguard

2659
02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:52,500
takes his job, very seriously. 
Like we think a man seems to do.

2660
02:09:52,800 --> 02:09:56,800
It would have been Unthinkable 
for Him to lose a fifth King, a 

2661
02:09:56,800 --> 02:10:00,700
fish like that, even though the 
first one was tuberculosis, you 

2662
02:10:00,700 --> 02:10:02,200
may be right. 
That one of the still Four 

2663
02:10:02,200 --> 02:10:07,100
Kings, this guy is not yet. 
Fifty Heyman and doesn't make it

2664
02:10:07,108 --> 02:10:11,100
250 because he dies in this 
Ambush, on the other hand, the 

2665
02:10:11,100 --> 02:10:12,800
realm like Tywin being like 
yeah. 

2666
02:10:12,800 --> 02:10:15,000
If the King dies, we get 
rhaegar's King. 

2667
02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:17,300
That seems like an improvement, 
right guys. 

2668
02:10:18,200 --> 02:10:20,500
The realm would have been better
off with their on the second 

2669
02:10:20,500 --> 02:10:23,900
ascending sooner, he did Ascend 
and it was pretty good, but 

2670
02:10:23,900 --> 02:10:25,700
hence, just named are on the 
good but it would have been 

2671
02:10:25,700 --> 02:10:29,400
better if it had happened sooner
because it would have avoided a 

2672
02:10:29,407 --> 02:10:32,700
keg on giving black fire. 
Today, I'm in waters and some 

2673
02:10:32,700 --> 02:10:35,600
other things like that, and Nina
wonders to what's going on in 

2674
02:10:35,608 --> 02:10:37,300
his head. 
Maybe it's just all happening so

2675
02:10:37,300 --> 02:10:40,500
fast that he has no time for 
conscious thought but I would be

2676
02:10:40,500 --> 02:10:45,100
real interesting in cinematic if
it was his final moments and 

2677
02:10:45,100 --> 02:10:47,800
you're going like his life is 
flashing before him and you're 

2678
02:10:47,800 --> 02:10:52,200
trying Write it like as 
amazingly as possible and slow 

2679
02:10:52,200 --> 02:10:54,500
it down to make it really 
dramatic. 

2680
02:10:54,800 --> 02:10:57,400
You know, says, I wonder whether
a man was perhaps less careful 

2681
02:10:57,400 --> 02:10:59,500
than he might have been in 
fighting the toy lines when it 

2682
02:10:59,500 --> 02:11:01,300
eventually killed him, because 
this was the deaf. 

2683
02:11:01,300 --> 02:11:04,700
He in a strange way may have 
wanted to have, he had watched 

2684
02:11:04,700 --> 02:11:06,800
Four Kings die without being 
able to stop any of them when 

2685
02:11:06,800 --> 02:11:09,200
doing so, for men who seems to 
have taken the valves, the 

2686
02:11:09,200 --> 02:11:11,900
kingsguard this may have seemed 
like a bitter record to him a 

2687
02:11:11,900 --> 02:11:13,600
mark of failure. 
Like, yeah, he's remembered as a

2688
02:11:13,608 --> 02:11:16,300
legend but he might not have 
seen himself that way during his

2689
02:11:16,300 --> 02:11:18,600
own life. 
Given what a King's Guard is 

2690
02:11:18,600 --> 02:11:21,100
supposed to do. 
And what his bottom line record 

2691
02:11:21,100 --> 02:11:25,500
was which is lots of Kings died 
under his watch on top of that, 

2692
02:11:25,500 --> 02:11:27,700
a man may have wondered how long
he would have been able to stay 

2693
02:11:27,700 --> 02:11:29,600
in his physical prime. 
It's certainly not impossible 

2694
02:11:29,600 --> 02:11:32,600
for West Rossi nice to remain, 
deadly into their older ages. 

2695
02:11:32,600 --> 02:11:35,900
I mean, look at barristan, but a
man may have lost a step. 

2696
02:11:35,900 --> 02:11:40,800
He's in his mid-40s, probably 
not as quick and maybe is strong

2697
02:11:40,800 --> 02:11:43,800
but not as doesn't have the 
stamina necessarily. 

2698
02:11:43,800 --> 02:11:47,100
He used to have, probably not 
the quickness makes up for some 

2699
02:11:47,100 --> 02:11:48,800
of that with wisdom. 
Experience. 

2700
02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:51,300
But yeah, I mean age does take a
toll. 

2701
02:11:51,500 --> 02:11:53,300
So how many more years can you 
go like this? 

2702
02:11:53,300 --> 02:11:57,200
Maybe he would have preferred to
die when he was still at his 

2703
02:11:57,500 --> 02:12:03,200
relatively top form rather than 
aging down and dying marida. 

2704
02:12:03,200 --> 02:12:05,000
Minimally like you want when 
you're a war, you're going to 

2705
02:12:05,008 --> 02:12:06,600
sing when he died with a sword 
in hand. 

2706
02:12:06,900 --> 02:12:08,500
I mean, intellectual you can 
understand that. 

2707
02:12:08,500 --> 02:12:10,800
Maybe not like yeah, I want you 
to know. 

2708
02:12:10,800 --> 02:12:14,200
I don't, I'm more like Tyrion 
for what I want out of my want a

2709
02:12:14,200 --> 02:12:18,000
diet with this sword in my hand 
in bed with the one. 

2710
02:12:18,100 --> 02:12:24,200
Winery at 80 years old. 
Yeah, before I can go to 

2711
02:12:24,200 --> 02:12:29,600
Valhalla, right? 
And like Syrio forel consider 

2712
02:12:29,600 --> 02:12:32,200
like why did he run away? 
Hmm. 

2713
02:12:32,300 --> 02:12:34,000
Because he kind of like the 
death you want. 

2714
02:12:34,000 --> 02:12:35,200
He wanted to die with sword in 
hand. 

2715
02:12:35,200 --> 02:12:38,800
He didn't want to run away and 
could see maybe his Decline and 

2716
02:12:38,800 --> 02:12:41,000
in the near future was like well
this is this is as good a time 

2717
02:12:41,000 --> 02:12:43,900
as any it's this may be hard to 
wrap your head around that but 

2718
02:12:43,900 --> 02:12:45,800
it's not unrealistic. 
You know, it may seem 

2719
02:12:45,800 --> 02:12:48,300
unrealistic but there's a lot of
people who think like that Be 

2720
02:12:48,300 --> 02:12:51,600
less these days maybe not in our
Social Circles but it's a 

2721
02:12:51,608 --> 02:12:55,200
realistic mindset philosophy. 
Life Philosophy for a person of 

2722
02:12:55,200 --> 02:13:00,300
great Duty who lives a life of 
Marshall Valor and as expected 

2723
02:13:00,300 --> 02:13:03,200
to die with sword in hand their 
whole life and not just and not 

2724
02:13:03,200 --> 02:13:06,500
just they tell themselves that 
they like really deeply 

2725
02:13:06,500 --> 02:13:10,200
sincerely. 
Believe that worth noting also 

2726
02:13:10,200 --> 02:13:13,300
just add on to all that. 
Like that's there's a reason to 

2727
02:13:13,300 --> 02:13:15,800
King's Guard is in supposed to 
have a family or lands like 

2728
02:13:15,800 --> 02:13:18,700
there's not some other thing. 
He's worried about my I gotta 

2729
02:13:18,700 --> 02:13:21,700
take care of my kids or yeah, 
wife will never forgive me or 

2730
02:13:21,700 --> 02:13:24,200
something like that, which is 
interesting to consider with him

2731
02:13:24,200 --> 02:13:26,900
because his sister was the 
queen, so he did care. 

2732
02:13:26,900 --> 02:13:29,500
He did have that he did, you 
know, he needed to be around, 

2733
02:13:29,500 --> 02:13:33,200
maybe to protect her and maybe 
his cousins and his nephews or 

2734
02:13:33,200 --> 02:13:35,700
whatever, but they weren't 
children of his own body and 

2735
02:13:35,700 --> 02:13:37,700
less less. 
The rumors are true and there, 

2736
02:13:38,300 --> 02:13:40,900
which I don't think any of the 
three of us believe that though.

2737
02:13:41,900 --> 02:13:45,700
So King aegon, predictably did 
not mourn his brother, despite 

2738
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:48,800
the dude dying to save him. 
I mean, what a jerk. 

2739
02:13:48,800 --> 02:13:51,500
Unworthy, truly is an 
understatement. 

2740
02:13:51,500 --> 02:13:53,500
I mean, this guy is just all the
ways. 

2741
02:13:53,500 --> 02:13:57,400
He can disappoint you, he does. 
He also, predictably went right 

2742
02:13:57,400 --> 02:13:59,400
back to sleeping with Nares or 
rather. 

2743
02:13:59,400 --> 02:14:02,000
He probably never stopped. 
Even though he had all those 

2744
02:14:02,000 --> 02:14:05,000
Mistresses Nares, became 
pregnant once more. 

2745
02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:07,800
In this time, she did die in 
childbirth, about a year later 

2746
02:14:07,800 --> 02:14:11,600
and she was probably weaker 
because of the grief of her. 

2747
02:14:11,800 --> 02:14:14,800
Dying Ferb are unworthy brother 
like that didn't help her health

2748
02:14:14,800 --> 02:14:16,800
situation. 
I couldn't have made her feel 

2749
02:14:16,800 --> 02:14:19,400
better, certainly, so she's 
probably weaker than ever. 

2750
02:14:20,600 --> 02:14:23,600
Let's finish in a manner that 
serves to bookend how we began, 

2751
02:14:23,600 --> 02:14:25,600
which is how he fits into A Song
of Ice and Fire. 

2752
02:14:25,600 --> 02:14:29,900
We started by quoting very early
on examples of young characters,

2753
02:14:30,200 --> 02:14:31,800
which is important that their 
young characters, because it 

2754
02:14:31,800 --> 02:14:36,500
shows how even this current 
generation still worships his 

2755
02:14:36,500 --> 02:14:39,400
memory and thinks of him as one 
of the greatest of all time. 

2756
02:14:40,100 --> 02:14:46,700
Makar as in father of Amon 
maester aemon and egg and Ariane

2757
02:14:46,700 --> 02:14:50,200
and dare on the drunkard, make 
our may have been born after. 

2758
02:14:50,300 --> 02:14:53,000
Raymond died. 
There's a range of when make our

2759
02:14:53,000 --> 02:14:53,700
was born. 
We're not sure. 

2760
02:14:53,700 --> 02:14:55,700
But more likely make our was 
about two or three years old. 

2761
02:14:55,700 --> 02:15:01,000
So he was may have been at a 
very influential age when the 

2762
02:15:01,000 --> 02:15:06,200
family lost a man to his heroic 
death. 20 years later, ish is 

2763
02:15:06,200 --> 02:15:09,200
when maester aemon will be born,
not yet. 

2764
02:15:09,200 --> 02:15:12,600
It makes Ur obviously comes out 
wearing the chain, talk about 

2765
02:15:12,600 --> 02:15:16,300
Born To Be A maester literally 
but make so make our 20 years 

2766
02:15:16,300 --> 02:15:20,400
later roughly after his death 
will named his son a man. 

2767
02:15:20,400 --> 02:15:23,000
So not that long but maybe like 
18 years not even card clear. 

2768
02:15:24,500 --> 02:15:29,000
Daemon blackfyre will be called.
Quote another Dragon Knight by 

2769
02:15:29,000 --> 02:15:32,200
some an egg on may have been 
eager to have a son of his 

2770
02:15:32,600 --> 02:15:33,600
overshadow. 
His brother. 

2771
02:15:33,800 --> 02:15:35,500
He may have like that talk. 
I'm like, yeah. 

2772
02:15:35,500 --> 02:15:38,300
If I can't best my own brother, 
maybe one of my sons will and 

2773
02:15:38,300 --> 02:15:40,400
that may have been why he gave 
him black fired. 

2774
02:15:40,400 --> 02:15:45,100
Such a young age at age 12, and 
of course, his name is similar 

2775
02:15:45,100 --> 02:15:48,400
to Damon, Damon and and Daemon. 
Blackfyre is the great-grandson 

2776
02:15:48,400 --> 02:15:53,500
of Prince Damon Rider of cracks.
He's Owner, how much cause an 

2777
02:15:53,500 --> 02:15:57,400
effect there is there also, 
like, I wonder if it 12, he was 

2778
02:15:57,400 --> 02:16:01,200
just a kid, it wasn't some 
amazing, great Prodigy Warrior. 

2779
02:16:01,300 --> 02:16:05,600
But once his dad, gave him that 
sword like salty had to live up 

2780
02:16:05,600 --> 02:16:07,600
to it. 
People around him, trained him 

2781
02:16:07,600 --> 02:16:10,100
better, maybe a little boat, but
he got to turn him. 

2782
02:16:10,100 --> 02:16:12,900
He got the sword after winning a
tournament at Squires tournament

2783
02:16:12,900 --> 02:16:14,900
so he did show character skill. 
Yeah. 

2784
02:16:14,900 --> 02:16:16,900
But it will be a little 
interesting like competition 

2785
02:16:16,900 --> 02:16:19,000
between him and Baylor break 
spear as youngsters because 

2786
02:16:19,000 --> 02:16:22,000
there are they were born a year 
apart, so they're really close. 

2787
02:16:22,200 --> 02:16:25,000
An age and Baylor will beat him 
in another tournament like a 

2788
02:16:25,008 --> 02:16:26,800
little later. 
And that's, yeah. 

2789
02:16:26,800 --> 02:16:28,600
So that back and forth until 
they're older. 

2790
02:16:29,100 --> 02:16:32,100
But both Baylor, we know 
Baylor's personality Daemon 

2791
02:16:32,100 --> 02:16:36,200
blackfyre was very chivalrous to
very chivalrous, very Noble, 

2792
02:16:36,200 --> 02:16:39,200
very honored, despite being a 
rebel, right? 

2793
02:16:39,500 --> 02:16:42,000
He was well regarded in this 
part of why he was such a 

2794
02:16:42,008 --> 02:16:44,299
popular Rebel. 
Start to be my some people join 

2795
02:16:44,299 --> 02:16:45,799
him. 
He had that Renly thing going 

2796
02:16:46,299 --> 02:16:48,200
where everybody liked him except
it really wasn't good at 

2797
02:16:48,200 --> 02:16:51,000
fighting rounds like it's he 
take renly's popularity and 

2798
02:16:51,000 --> 02:16:54,200
merge it with Any of the best 
fighters you can think of, and 

2799
02:16:54,200 --> 02:16:56,600
that's Daemon blackfyre. 
And the reason I'm varying off 

2800
02:16:56,600 --> 02:16:59,400
talk about Damon is that Damon 
again born in the shadow of a 

2801
02:16:59,400 --> 02:17:00,700
man? 
The Dragonite, this chivalry, 

2802
02:17:00,700 --> 02:17:05,500
this personality very likely to 
have been partly or greatly 

2803
02:17:05,600 --> 02:17:07,600
influenced by in the Dragon 
Knight. 

2804
02:17:07,600 --> 02:17:10,500
That's the guy who's trying to 
be like right down to wielding 

2805
02:17:10,500 --> 02:17:13,200
of Larry and steel Blade. 
The other great Targaryen sword 

2806
02:17:14,500 --> 02:17:17,500
but whereas Haman was content 
and quite dutiful to be 

2807
02:17:17,600 --> 02:17:21,000
supporting member the family. 
Damon was talked into trying to 

2808
02:17:21,000 --> 02:17:22,700
take over. 
And Damon. 

2809
02:17:23,500 --> 02:17:25,799
What is he named his first two 
sons? 

2810
02:17:25,900 --> 02:17:32,200
His twin sons aegon and Ava has 
two twin sets killed on the red 

2811
02:17:32,200 --> 02:17:36,700
grass field by the arrows of 
bloodraven and the Ravens teeth.

2812
02:17:38,400 --> 02:17:40,799
So, after hearing all that, all 
this stories, everything we've 

2813
02:17:40,799 --> 02:17:43,400
said about is no wonder he comes
up so much in A Song of Ice and 

2814
02:17:43,400 --> 02:17:45,700
Fire her. 
I mean, just so many things that

2815
02:17:46,100 --> 02:17:51,000
he embodies about westerosi 
values, even when people don't 

2816
02:17:51,000 --> 02:17:52,100
actually live up to those 
things. 

2817
02:17:52,100 --> 02:17:53,200
Even, some of them are these 
things are just things. 

2818
02:17:53,200 --> 02:17:56,100
People say they believe, but 
don't actually even try to live 

2819
02:17:56,100 --> 02:17:58,500
up to the kind of thing that 
sandor Clegane. 

2820
02:17:59,000 --> 02:18:01,500
If he was confronted with a man,
the Dragon Knight he might be 

2821
02:18:01,500 --> 02:18:03,500
like what do I say about this 
guy? 

2822
02:18:03,500 --> 02:18:08,000
This guy kind of breaks the mold
of my cynicism maybe if the 

2823
02:18:08,200 --> 02:18:12,400
Always are accurate. 
Yeah, extremely well-rounded 

2824
02:18:12,400 --> 02:18:15,200
character despite the 
substantial missing elements 

2825
02:18:15,299 --> 02:18:18,700
family drama, romantic tragedy 
suffering cruelty. 

2826
02:18:18,700 --> 02:18:22,200
Great success, in war incredible
self-sacrifice on multiple 

2827
02:18:22,200 --> 02:18:24,900
occasions, someone who's 
actually chose Duty over love 

2828
02:18:24,900 --> 02:18:27,799
probably in world. 
He was unparalleled even those 

2829
02:18:27,799 --> 02:18:31,000
few who maybe is equal in combat
or honor, we're not targaryens 

2830
02:18:31,299 --> 02:18:34,100
or, you know, unless you want to
consider Daemon Targaryen, he 

2831
02:18:34,100 --> 02:18:36,400
was a blackfyre. 
There's no substitute for that. 

2832
02:18:36,400 --> 02:18:38,900
When building a legend just 
being the best for being thought

2833
02:18:38,900 --> 02:18:41,299
of as the best, all the 
qualities he possessed it made. 

2834
02:18:41,299 --> 02:18:43,700
Everyone else seemed unworthy, 
especially his brother. 

2835
02:18:43,700 --> 02:18:46,299
Hey friend. 
Our Deep dive shows that he was 

2836
02:18:46,299 --> 02:18:49,400
far from perfect and possess. 
Some of the qualities, we see 

2837
02:18:49,400 --> 02:18:51,600
repeatedly, among those seen at 
the Pinnacle of Westeros. 

2838
02:18:51,600 --> 02:18:54,700
He honored some of the things 
that our world doesn't agree 

2839
02:18:54,700 --> 02:18:57,900
with like valuing, honor over 
Justice or valuing obedience 

2840
02:18:57,900 --> 02:19:02,200
over decency or valuing men over
women, have things like that. 

2841
02:19:02,200 --> 02:19:04,500
Like, we don't in the modern 
world, I hope we don't agree 

2842
02:19:04,500 --> 02:19:06,900
with that both silver. 
Essex, I think is another one 

2843
02:19:06,900 --> 02:19:09,700
who like, they think an oath. 
Is more important than just 

2844
02:19:09,700 --> 02:19:12,700
being a good person, which I 
disagree with that. 

2845
02:19:13,100 --> 02:19:16,900
I think ethics Trump any oath, 
you may have made, you shouldn't

2846
02:19:16,900 --> 02:19:18,600
do bad things. 
Just because you took a vow out 

2847
02:19:18,600 --> 02:19:23,100
and not do that, I don't know. 
But overall, it's pretty hard to

2848
02:19:23,100 --> 02:19:25,900
find flaw with how even lived 
his life especially given the 

2849
02:19:25,900 --> 02:19:28,900
context and setting. 
It's not a new topic for us to 

2850
02:19:29,100 --> 02:19:34,500
criticize the small bit while 
still looking at the hole and 

2851
02:19:34,500 --> 02:19:39,200
saying, yes, That's the truth. 
The overall, you know, this is 

2852
02:19:39,200 --> 02:19:41,600
the so much in the good column, 
it's a little in the bad column.

2853
02:19:42,000 --> 02:19:44,299
But again, we ask ourselves as 
we leave this. 

2854
02:19:44,299 --> 02:19:47,200
Did we fall for the legend to? 
Is he actually maybe not so 

2855
02:19:47,200 --> 02:19:51,200
great and does the story of a 
man and Aries, tell us anything 

2856
02:19:51,200 --> 02:19:54,200
more about what's coming for 
Cersei and Jaime and or Marjorie

2857
02:19:54,200 --> 02:19:56,800
and loras. 
Any other parallels Nina, says I

2858
02:19:56,808 --> 02:20:00,700
don't particularly think so. 
Except as another exploration of

2859
02:20:00,700 --> 02:20:02,800
some of the same themes, the 
author explores with these 

2860
02:20:02,800 --> 02:20:05,600
characters, George likes to test
many of his characters with the 

2861
02:20:05,700 --> 02:20:08,700
same challenges, especially the 
very central conflict of Duty 

2862
02:20:08,700 --> 02:20:10,600
versus love. 
Marries a name and face 

2863
02:20:10,600 --> 02:20:13,400
something of the same dilemma 
Jaime and Cersei do the 

2864
02:20:13,400 --> 02:20:14,900
kingsguard night, his sister 
Queen. 

2865
02:20:14,900 --> 02:20:17,500
Her lecherous Royal husband, but
end up in a much different 

2866
02:20:17,500 --> 02:20:20,400
situation position, the realm is
different, even though Westeros 

2867
02:20:20,400 --> 02:20:25,900
Westeros the sort of stuck in a 
lack of development Loop. 

2868
02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:29,100
Still a lot of Trish cultural 
things that are different and 

2869
02:20:29,100 --> 02:20:31,300
things happening around the 
realm that are very different 

2870
02:20:31,300 --> 02:20:34,700
from when you compare Jaime and 
Cersei to aim and Nares, despite

2871
02:20:34,700 --> 02:20:35,600
how many things they have in 
common. 

2872
02:20:35,900 --> 02:20:37,700
Nina continues here to say, 
Mary's name. 

2873
02:20:37,700 --> 02:20:39,400
And probably didn't have a 
sexual relationship with Jaime. 

2874
02:20:39,400 --> 02:20:41,900
And Cersei did Aaron was almost 
certainly the king's own son 

2875
02:20:41,900 --> 02:20:45,000
unlike cersei's children which 
they're not Roberts, children, 

2876
02:20:45,100 --> 02:20:47,100
and aegon outlived. 
Both the brother who died for 

2877
02:20:47,100 --> 02:20:49,700
him and his Queen instead of 
Robert being killed. 

2878
02:20:49,700 --> 02:20:51,800
Thanks in part to Cersei scheme.
So that's another big 

2879
02:20:51,800 --> 02:20:54,900
difference. 
Is that the Jamie and this 

2880
02:20:54,900 --> 02:20:58,100
scenario died, first name is a 
name is Virgin. 

2881
02:20:58,400 --> 02:21:00,900
Where is Robert died? 
The egg on died, first, in A 

2882
02:21:00,900 --> 02:21:03,800
Song of Ice and Fire and all his
bastard, still out there and 

2883
02:21:03,800 --> 02:21:07,000
that caused sort of the black. 
Fire, Rebellion, ish, situation 

2884
02:21:07,000 --> 02:21:10,500
to happen at the same time 
rather than a delay of those 

2885
02:21:10,500 --> 02:21:13,600
things for 10 more years, while 
more bastards were born or maybe

2886
02:21:13,600 --> 02:21:14,700
not 10 years. 
But yeah. 

2887
02:21:14,700 --> 02:21:17,800
Anyway, a while it is 
interesting to think about how 

2888
02:21:17,800 --> 02:21:20,800
things might have gone down if 
Robert did live two more years. 

2889
02:21:20,800 --> 02:21:24,100
Yeah. 
How much more drunk and removed 

2890
02:21:24,100 --> 02:21:26,600
from reality he might have got 
how much more problematic. 

2891
02:21:26,600 --> 02:21:29,800
All the bastards would have been
you know maybe a bit maybe 

2892
02:21:29,800 --> 02:21:32,800
Searcy did a good thing by 
driving him to his death. 

2893
02:21:32,800 --> 02:21:35,600
He would have been a sign of her
motivations were whatever. 

2894
02:21:35,800 --> 02:21:37,000
I think she might have done. 
Yeah. 

2895
02:21:37,100 --> 02:21:40,800
Right. 
So as we've touched on a bit off

2896
02:21:40,800 --> 02:21:44,500
and on throughout this these two
episodes this era certainly has 

2897
02:21:44,500 --> 02:21:47,700
a lot to offer as a TV show. 
But stories big and small woven 

2898
02:21:47,700 --> 02:21:49,400
together in a world familiar to 
us yet. 

2899
02:21:49,400 --> 02:21:51,500
Distinct enough from the other 
sections of the timeline. 

2900
02:21:51,500 --> 02:21:53,800
We've seen that it could be just
incredible. 

2901
02:21:53,900 --> 02:21:55,500
There are characters to love and
hate. 

2902
02:21:55,500 --> 02:21:58,300
There's deaths to be sad about 
plenty of gaps in the record, to

2903
02:21:58,300 --> 02:22:00,600
be filled in, like you said 
Shawn with just unexpected 

2904
02:22:00,600 --> 02:22:04,500
things that writers could have 
to just let loose and do their 

2905
02:22:04,500 --> 02:22:05,600
own thing with while just 
sticking. 

2906
02:22:05,700 --> 02:22:08,200
Going to the confines of what's 
been laid out in terms of War an

2907
02:22:08,200 --> 02:22:09,800
action. 
There'd be some of that. 

2908
02:22:09,800 --> 02:22:11,900
But it wouldn't be the focus and
it would be stripped down. 

2909
02:22:12,000 --> 02:22:15,300
You would have still have heroic
deeds and danger nightly combat.

2910
02:22:15,300 --> 02:22:18,600
But for one thing, yes, a it 
wouldn't be a focus Like A Song 

2911
02:22:18,600 --> 02:22:20,100
of Ice and Fire In The Dance 
with Dragons. 

2912
02:22:20,500 --> 02:22:23,400
There'd be no Supernatural 
elements, unlike either that 

2913
02:22:23,400 --> 02:22:25,300
would be a big difference is no 
others, there's no dragons, 

2914
02:22:25,300 --> 02:22:27,800
there's no White's. 
I mean, you might have Wildfire,

2915
02:22:27,800 --> 02:22:29,600
but that's not really. 
That's barely magical. 

2916
02:22:29,900 --> 02:22:31,600
They fit and I have visions or 
Claire. 

2917
02:22:31,600 --> 02:22:34,100
Yes, Yes. 
Mine might have have that, but 

2918
02:22:34,100 --> 02:22:35,500
and you might even somehow work 
tonight. 

2919
02:22:35,800 --> 02:22:39,000
Exciting or fantastic is dragons
but it still would be an 

2920
02:22:39,000 --> 02:22:40,700
intriguing element. 
Yeah. 

2921
02:22:40,700 --> 02:22:43,300
As a way to set them up or the 
way to predict the Mirza way to 

2922
02:22:43,300 --> 02:22:46,400
have expectations for them, 
which you could then shatter, or

2923
02:22:46,500 --> 02:22:50,100
undermine through clever 
writing, or yeah, the general 

2924
02:22:50,100 --> 02:22:52,800
nature of prophecies. 
So given how often he's been 

2925
02:22:52,800 --> 02:22:55,400
mentioned a date. 
And given his life does not fall

2926
02:22:55,400 --> 02:22:58,400
during the range of Fire and 
Blood but will fall during blood

2927
02:22:58,400 --> 02:23:02,000
and fire AK Fire and Blood too. 
There will definitely be more to

2928
02:23:02,000 --> 02:23:05,700
print same and story and more is
resonance in connection to A 

2929
02:23:05,700 --> 02:23:07,900
Song of Ice and Fire as well 
because he's probably gonna get 

2930
02:23:07,900 --> 02:23:10,000
mentioned. 
Again is is often, he's been 

2931
02:23:10,000 --> 02:23:11,800
mentioned in the other books, 
you'll probably get mentioned 

2932
02:23:11,800 --> 02:23:13,600
and the Winds of Winter and the 
dream. 

2933
02:23:13,600 --> 02:23:16,800
I had a dream of spring even if 
it's not a lot it might be and 

2934
02:23:16,800 --> 02:23:19,800
it might be some pretty big 
details which might lead to more

2935
02:23:19,800 --> 02:23:23,100
parallels, more personality, and
more fun. 

2936
02:23:23,100 --> 02:23:25,100
For sure. 
He'll be back. 

2937
02:23:25,700 --> 02:23:29,100
So will we with him and other 
topics? 

2938
02:23:30,500 --> 02:23:32,100
All right. 
Yeah, has the pole written out 

2939
02:23:32,100 --> 02:23:33,900
here. 
The final version of the poll 

2940
02:23:34,900 --> 02:23:37,700
looks like 50 live voters here. 
40 percent. 

2941
02:23:37,700 --> 02:23:38,600
Yes. 
Okay. 

2942
02:23:38,600 --> 02:23:40,000
So it did turn a little bit 
hacha? 

2943
02:23:40,100 --> 02:23:41,700
Yeah. 
Turned a little bit but still a 

2944
02:23:41,700 --> 02:23:45,700
lot of 28 percent, I'm sure, 
Tony a bit unsure and 31% know. 

2945
02:23:45,800 --> 02:23:47,900
So, 40% people think it was 
romantic. 

2946
02:23:47,900 --> 02:23:51,200
I'm a little surprised we argued
against that yet, most of y'all.

2947
02:23:51,500 --> 02:23:53,800
Well, not most 40%, y'all, not 
most yeah. 

2948
02:23:53,800 --> 02:23:57,300
Majority of people who have the 
largest opinion plurality but 

2949
02:23:57,300 --> 02:23:58,500
not the majority. 
Yeah. 

2950
02:24:00,400 --> 02:24:04,700
The trivia answer the question 
again was, who does Jamie 

2951
02:24:04,700 --> 02:24:10,600
consider half the size but twice
as mad as Gregor Clegane, a 

2952
02:24:10,600 --> 02:24:16,200
great name considering who our 
sponsor is The Smiling Knight. 

2953
02:24:17,200 --> 02:24:22,200
I bet he had very white teeth to
The Smiling nights. 

2954
02:24:22,200 --> 02:24:24,700
Most of all, people did guess 
that's time with the first 

2955
02:24:24,700 --> 02:24:27,600
person in quickest. 
Yes, was Carl karstark? 

2956
02:24:27,700 --> 02:24:30,400
Good job, Karl car snark. 
You got the smiling Knight 

2957
02:24:30,400 --> 02:24:33,100
first. 
Well done, and your reward. 

2958
02:24:33,100 --> 02:24:35,000
Is this shout out that has just 
happened? 

2959
02:24:35,200 --> 02:24:37,800
It's my night was, he was part 
of like a band or like a 

2960
02:24:37,808 --> 02:24:39,200
Brotherhood. 
Yeah, that's it. 

2961
02:24:39,200 --> 02:24:42,300
The Kings, he was sort of 
co-commander to Simon toyne who 

2962
02:24:42,300 --> 02:24:45,200
was mentioned, briefly in this 
episode 2 and that's where I got

2963
02:24:45,200 --> 02:24:47,300
the idea from for this trip 
craters, like, It's like I'm 

2964
02:24:47,300 --> 02:24:49,500
frozen by The Smiling, moon was 
smiling night. 

2965
02:24:49,500 --> 02:24:52,300
We don't know what his real name
was, just the smiling Knight 

2966
02:24:52,300 --> 02:24:55,000
whatever. 
His actual name was lost next 

2967
02:24:55,000 --> 02:24:57,500
week, trial by Theory beating 
out. 

2968
02:24:57,500 --> 02:24:59,700
Second place, was it murder and 
two other topics. 

2969
02:24:59,800 --> 02:25:03,200
Don't forget, you can join in 
the voting by joining us on 

2970
02:25:03,200 --> 02:25:06,500
patreon. 
At patreon.com slash history of 

2971
02:25:06,500 --> 02:25:10,300
Westeros, variety of levels and 
types of pledges and bonuses. 

2972
02:25:10,300 --> 02:25:14,300
You can get from us for your 
support and we do appreciate 

2973
02:25:14,300 --> 02:25:15,600
that. 
We also appreciate. 

2974
02:25:15,600 --> 02:25:18,900
If you tell your friends about 
it, Spreading the word through 

2975
02:25:18,900 --> 02:25:22,300
word of mouth about us is one of
the most effective ways we've 

2976
02:25:22,300 --> 02:25:24,600
found over the years of doing 
this for ten plus years. 

2977
02:25:24,900 --> 02:25:28,500
So, thank you. 
If you do that episodes, we 

2978
02:25:28,500 --> 02:25:31,800
mentioned in this one include 
you want to stay immersed and 

2979
02:25:31,800 --> 02:25:35,900
stay in Westeros and keep the 
story going, The Dusk, and Dale 

2980
02:25:35,900 --> 02:25:37,200
episode. 
I mentioned to find some desk 

2981
02:25:37,200 --> 02:25:40,700
and Dale where Aries is 
recognized rescued by barristan 

2982
02:25:40,700 --> 02:25:43,100
selmy, a lot of familiar 
characters in that one. 

2983
02:25:43,300 --> 02:25:45,500
Some mention of Targaryen dreams
as well. 

2984
02:25:45,500 --> 02:25:49,400
Barristan and Are in that one, a
lot dare on the young dragon, of

2985
02:25:49,400 --> 02:25:51,900
course, A lot of these episodes 
I mentioned last week because 

2986
02:25:51,900 --> 02:25:54,100
it's the same topic. 
So the same overlap will be 

2987
02:25:54,100 --> 02:25:56,100
there. 
Dark sister the Lost Larry and 

2988
02:25:56,100 --> 02:25:58,300
steel aegon. 
The Unworthy, the whole black 

2989
02:25:58,300 --> 02:26:00,200
Fire series the free city of 
list. 

2990
02:26:00,700 --> 02:26:02,900
You may have listened to some of
these this past week when I 

2991
02:26:02,900 --> 02:26:05,000
suggested it, but probably not 
all of them because that's a lot

2992
02:26:05,000 --> 02:26:06,900
of episodes. 
Blackfyre series alone is like 

2993
02:26:06,900 --> 02:26:12,600
nine episodes or ten episodes. 
So that's a big spicy meatball, 

2994
02:26:12,700 --> 02:26:14,500
huh? 
Some of you may have already 

2995
02:26:14,500 --> 02:26:16,700
listened to it, but maybe it's 
time for a real listen. 

2996
02:26:17,000 --> 02:26:21,400
And either way, we'll be back 
next week with more. 

2997
02:26:21,800 --> 02:26:24,500
Thanks to any of you who have 
signed up to subscribe. 

2998
02:26:24,500 --> 02:26:28,400
Thanks to Nina for Herrera 
valuable notes, as usual, say, 

2999
02:26:28,600 --> 02:26:30,900
two things. 
Yeah, sure, please riff. 

3000
02:26:30,900 --> 02:26:33,400
Now that the episodes over, go 
check out Michaels movie. 

3001
02:26:33,400 --> 02:26:36,400
Just your reminder again. 
Yes, to look up that link. 

3002
02:26:36,400 --> 02:26:40,000
And to speaking of being 
recognized really weird if you 

3003
02:26:40,008 --> 02:26:43,800
were the person that recognized 
us a big gigantic on Saturday 

3004
02:26:43,800 --> 02:26:45,300
night. 
Stop lurking. 

3005
02:26:45,300 --> 02:26:46,800
And come say hi. 
You live in it. 

3006
02:26:46,900 --> 02:26:49,800
Lanta and you go to EDM shows. 
I wish I saw you again. 

3007
02:26:50,000 --> 02:26:52,400
It was very random. 
We went to big gigantic last 

3008
02:26:52,400 --> 02:26:54,200
night and as soon as we got 
there, someone recognized us 

3009
02:26:54,200 --> 02:26:57,300
it's not like we get recognized 
a lot so it's a pretty, it's 

3010
02:26:57,300 --> 02:27:01,400
happened, maybe once like three 
or four times a year maybe at 

3011
02:27:01,400 --> 02:27:03,500
most down and then almost counts
conventions. 

3012
02:27:05,600 --> 02:27:08,500
The concerts I'm like you know I
love going to EDM shows you know

3013
02:27:08,500 --> 02:27:11,000
if you live in the area and you 
go you know hit me up. 

3014
02:27:11,100 --> 02:27:13,500
Yeah saying or hit me up you can
hit either of us up. 

3015
02:27:13,500 --> 02:27:16,100
Okay now I don't ahead as he's 
up, don't hit me up. 

3016
02:27:16,900 --> 02:27:18,600
I'm boring. 
If you want to get a cat, is it 

3017
02:27:18,600 --> 02:27:20,500
too late? 
Shawn someone did ask for the 

3018
02:27:20,500 --> 02:27:25,800
cat. 
I'll run again if you can you 

3019
02:27:25,800 --> 02:27:27,400
can really get the cat. 
I think it's worth it. 

3020
02:27:27,400 --> 02:27:31,600
If it is my standard is that 
sometimes I let Shawn get away 

3021
02:27:31,600 --> 02:27:35,200
without showing us the cat but 
if someone explicitly asks in 

3022
02:27:35,200 --> 02:27:37,800
the chat I'm like, let's do it. 
There's a little more special. 

3023
02:27:37,800 --> 02:27:43,000
If we don't do it every time, 
yeah, we do have a growing. 

3024
02:27:43,400 --> 02:27:49,600
Thanks as well to Joey, Jesse 
and bran for our various musical

3025
02:27:49,600 --> 02:27:54,600
intros and just Music. 
Depending very helpful, very 

3026
02:27:54,600 --> 02:27:57,700
wonderful to have that from our 
friends to make our show better 

3027
02:27:58,100 --> 02:28:01,900
start brand in particular who 
you know you could commission. 

3028
02:28:01,900 --> 02:28:06,600
You could hire he is doing this 
as his jaw, there's a kitty. 

3029
02:28:06,800 --> 02:28:09,400
But yeah you absolutely could he
just did a really cool ad for a 

3030
02:28:09,400 --> 02:28:11,700
path water. 
The water bottle company is so 

3031
02:28:11,700 --> 02:28:13,300
extra, shout out to him this 
week. 

3032
02:28:14,200 --> 02:28:16,200
I look at that cat. 
So sweet. 

3033
02:28:16,200 --> 02:28:18,100
Mmm. 
Oh yeah, there we go. 

3034
02:28:18,500 --> 02:28:20,400
Got a kitty. 
Look at this long episode. 

3035
02:28:20,400 --> 02:28:22,900
We got home. 
Two hours, 46 minutes. 

3036
02:28:23,000 --> 02:28:25,300
Then we got out here, one of our
cats in the background meowing 

3037
02:28:25,300 --> 02:28:28,900
us, but there are microphones, 
aren't picking that up, meow 

3038
02:28:28,900 --> 02:28:31,900
cats everywhere. 
Folks, we do love our cats. 

3039
02:28:32,000 --> 02:28:34,100
Yeah, so yeah. 
Check out my quilt are filled 

3040
02:28:34,100 --> 02:28:37,000
movie like a che. 
I said, we'll put links all over

3041
02:28:37,000 --> 02:28:39,500
or just search for Michael 
far-field. 

3042
02:28:39,500 --> 02:28:44,500
KLA, are FLD meal from, not only
find the movie probably but his 

3043
02:28:44,500 --> 02:28:46,200
website. 
Claire, docks dot they'e, where 

3044
02:28:46,200 --> 02:28:49,900
you find This map and many 
others that are cool like it. 

3045
02:28:50,700 --> 02:28:53,600
So from all of us, the history 
of Westeros, both human and 

3046
02:28:53,600 --> 02:29:00,000
Feline until next time you know 
what to do, well, our reread us 

3047
02:28:47,900 --> 02:28:49,900
This map and many others that 
are cool like it. 

3048
02:28:50,700 --> 02:28:53,600
So from all of us, the history 
of Westeros, both human and 

3049
02:28:53,600 --> 02:29:00,000
Feline until next time you know 
what to do, well, our reread us